KLZ 560 AM DENVER'S CONSERVATIVE HOME STATION
Menu
Welcome to the Kim Monson Show podcast. Kim Monson is your host. Martin Luther King Jr. once said that a man dies when he refuses to stand up for that which is right, for justice, and to take a stand for that which is true. Dr. Everett Piper discusses his recent article While Trump Celebrated Our Nation During His Inaugural Speech, Democrats Sat and Stared. Professor Paul Prentice addresses details of the federal budget and lowering our national debt. State Farm agent Roger Mangan notes the importance of life insurance. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Kim Monson Show airs on KLZ 560 AM every Monday thru Friday, 6-8 AM MST. You can listen to the live stream by going to www.klzradio.com
SPEAKER 11 :
It's the Kim Munson Show, analyzing the most important stories.
SPEAKER 10 :
The socialization of transportation, education, energy, housing, and water. What it means is that government controls it through rules and regulations.
SPEAKER 11 :
The latest in politics and world affairs.
SPEAKER 10 :
Under this guise of bipartisanship and nonpartisanship, it's actually tapping down the truth.
SPEAKER 11 :
Today's current opinions and ideas.
SPEAKER 10 :
On an equal field in the battle of ideas, mistruths and misconceptions is getting us into a world of hurt.
SPEAKER 11 :
Is it freedom or is it force? Let's have a conversation.
SPEAKER 10 :
Indeed. Let's have a conversation and welcome to the Kim Munson Show. Thank you so much for joining us. You're each treasured, you're valued, you have purpose. Today's drive for excellence. Take care of your heart, your soul, your mind and your body. My friends, we were made for this moment in history. Thank you to the team that I get to work with. And that's producer Joe, Luke, Zach, Echo, Charlie, Rachel. Let's see. Let me make sure I don't forget anybody. Teresa, Mike, Charlie and all the people here at Crawford Broadcasting. Happy Monday, producer Joe. Happy Monday, Kim. I can't believe that it's February. The year is going by so quickly. So much to do and so much to talk about. So again, thank you for joining us. Fasten your seatbelts. We've got a great show planned for you. Would love to hear from you. Our text line is 720-605-0647. Check out the website. That is Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter there. You'll get first look at our upcoming guests as well as our most recent essays. You can email me at Kim at Kim Munson dot com. And thank you to all of you who support us. We are an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And my friends, it's never compassionate to take other people's stuff, whether or not it's their rights, their property, freedom, livelihoods, opportunities, or lives via force. Force could be a weapon, but also policy, unpredictable and excessive taxation, fear, coercion, government-induced inflation, the World Economic Forum, the Globalist Leads Agenda, United Nations, the Colorado State Legislature, they are very busy. And not necessarily in a good way, but there are great representatives and senators that are standing in the gap for us down there. But this Colorado governor and the World Health Organization, which we are no longer a part of, the land use code, zoning regulations, force fees, conservation easements, national monument designations. Remember, if something's a good idea, you should not have to use force fees. to do it. The show comes to you at 6 to 8 a.m. Monday through Friday. The first hour is rebroadcast 1 to 2 in the afternoon. Second hour is rebroadcast 10 to 11 at night. And then within 24 hours, typically, we have the show with the written summary posted on the website. And then once that happens, you can listen to the show via podcasts or the podcast via Spotify and iTunes. So that is all of those things. Next thing, let's get over here to our word of the day. And our word of the day is counterpoise. And it's C-O-U-N-T-E-R-P-O-I-S-E. It's a noun. It could be a counterbalancing weight. Number two, a force or influence that balances or equally counteracts another. Or third, the state of being in equilibrium. In this day and age, we really need Donald Trump is coming in as a counterpoise to all of this illegal immigration. And as I was looking at headlines, this is very interesting happening in L.A. You had a number of there was a protest against Trump's immigration policies. It says thousands of people. This is from Washington. eyewitness, ABC News, I think in LA, it says thousands of people marched in downtown Los Angeles Sunday in protest of President Trump's planned mass deportations and the blocking traffic and just disrupting things. Interestingly enough, what we're seeing is a lot of Mexican flags that are being flown there. And I find that quite interesting as well. People have come here illegally, and they're willing to really disrupt things to stay here illegally. And that is a real problem. Certainly, I realize people have come here because of the American dream of freedom. But what has happened, and we've seen, is that federal dollars have been used to – Fund NGOs, non-governmental organizations, which have brought this influx of people here, put them on public assistance. Some people have come here to hurt us and it really has been an invasion. And of course, those those that have come here. really in part of this invasion not to come for the American dream if they're carrying Mexican flags around. This is certainly a real problem. And so you need to stay tuned. We're in quite a time right now, my friends. As General Arbuckle said last week, we are in a very dangerous time. This O'Biden-Harris administration has really put America and Americans in a dangerous time. And that brings up, let's see, well, let's see, let's get to our quote of the day. I have some other headlines that I want to make sure that I get to you as well. And this is from W. Clement Stone. He was born in 1902. He died in 2002. He was an American businessman, philanthropist, and New Thought self-help book author. And it's really an interesting story. He really is the rags to riches story. He was the founder of Combined Insurance Company, and it says he had less than a modest start. This is from thefamouspeople.com. But he did not let his financial shortcomings come in the way between him and success. A highly successful businessman and prosperous philanthropist, he was the perfect example of how hard work coupled with a positive attitude can change the fate and destiny of a man. Famous for his pencil-thin black mustache, his polka-dot bow ties, and solid fixation on motivation as the engine of success, Stone started off as a newspaper hawker when he was three. Interestingly, unlike other hawkers, he did not choose the street corners as his sellout zones and instead concentrated on restaurants. And his charming mannerism and benevolent ways impressed the buyers, and his business soon thrived. He proceeded to become a salesperson in an insurance agency started by his mother and soon turned the business profitable. Starting off with merely $100, he launched his own company that went on to become a multimillion-dollar business. And throughout his life, he was deeply influenced by Napoleon Hill's book, Think and Grow Rich and the Bible. He even penned his own book, which stated his belief that positive mental attitude was all that a person needed to rule the world. He strongly believed that no matter how poor one starts in life, a person can become wealthy by having a positive mental attitude. And that's W. Clement Stone. He says truth will always be truth, regardless of lack of understanding. And as you know, we search for truth and clarity on this show each and every day. Zach got this New York Times article over to me, which was pretty interesting. And I had it up here. And it says, many Americans say that the Democrat Party does not share their priorities. And it says, this was a New York Times poll, and it found that Americans believe abortion, LGBTQ issues, and climate change concern Democrats more than the cost of living. And many Americans say they do not believe the Democrat Party is focused on the economic issues that matter most to them and is instead placing too much emphasis on these social issues. That is happening right here in Colorado at this Colorado state legislature. We had Rich Guggenheim on on Friday. He is the national director for public policy for Gays Against Groomers. And apparently there is a transgender bill of rights bill that very well may be heard or introduced today, I think, down at the State House. And it says the issues that people cited as most important to them personally were the economy and inflation, health care and immigration. The kinds of social causes that progressive activists have championed in recent years ranked much, much lower. And so this radical activist Democrat Party now, this is not the Democrat Party of your grandfather and your grandmother. This is not the party of JFK. This is being controlled by radical activists. And we here in Colorado, I really thought a lot about this this weekend on what needs to be done. I was at Liberty Toastmasters on Saturday. And one of my colleagues, who's a veteran, and he and his wife had gone back to Southeast Asia. I think that he had been stationed in Southeast Asia during the Vietnam War. And he gave a speech regarding the killing fields in Cambodia. And I knew about them. And in fact, Pol Pot killed, I think, 1.5 million people in Cambodia. And the population was only like five or six million people. And Bill, though, gave a riveting speech about these killing fields and the killing of children, although that really made me think about this whole abortion thing in America. We're killing a lot of children here. But it was really riveting. And. If government gets out of control and if government doesn't protect individual rights and if, as Jay Davidson many times says, recognize the sanctity of the individual, then things will get out of control. And we've been going down that road. with the Biden-Harris administration, and it really started many years before that. Putting people into groups and trying to pit those groups against each other, that is Marxism. And we've been heading down that road. So I thought a lot about it after Bill's speech on Saturday. Because this can happen anywhere. The cruelty of man can happen anywhere. And that's why we have to continue to protect the American idea. And so this thing, I'm looking at it right now here in Los Angeles, all these people in downtown Los Angeles waving the Mexican flag. There is a country. If they want to uphold the Mexican country, they can go to Mexico to do that. But here in America, We focus on these ideas of America that all men are created equal with rights from God of life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness. And when we do that, what happens? Well, the American dream happens. So next thing to mention is Trump has put these tariffs on Canada, Mexico, and China. And that's going to get very interesting. And he said that there may be some hurt for the American people in doing so. And that's very possible. But he is certainly focused on America, making America and Americans great again. And if that happens, that's good for the whole world as well. So we'll continue these important discussions. They happen because of our sponsors, and one of those sponsors is the Roger Mangan State Farm Insurance team. And he's been in business for 48 years, providing for his family, serving his customers, and giving back to the community. And so sit down with them and make a complimentary appointment. You might be able to save yourself some money, and that's always nice. That number is 303-795-8855. Give them a call for a complimentary appointment, like a good neighbor. The Roger Mangan team is there.
SPEAKER 01 :
So I switched my insurance to the Roger Mangan State Farm Insurance Agency. Get this, I actually talked to Roger Mangan, who has been helping people with their insurance coverage in our community for 47 years. He helped me create a State Farm personalized price insurance plan for my home and auto and explained affordable options. For personalized service and peace of mind that you are working with a team that cares about you and your family, call Roger Mangin now at 303-795-8855. Kim highly recommends the Roger Mangin State Farm Insurance Team. Again, that number is 303-795-8855.
SPEAKER 17 :
Boson Law is a local law firm dedicated to helping injured individuals in Denver and the surrounding areas fight for the justice they deserve. Boson Law focuses on personalized representation tailored to your unique situation with one-on-one attention and counsel and consistent communication. Boson Law personal injury attorneys have extensive trial experience and have successfully represented clients against the interests of powerful corporations, manufacturers, insurance companies, and government agencies. Contact Boson Law at 303-999-9999 for a complimentary in-person consultation. Again, that number is 303-999-9999. Call now at 303-999-9999.
SPEAKER 12 :
Focused and wise marketing is essential for your success, especially during tough economic times. If you love The Kim Munson Show, strive for excellence and understand the importance of engaging in the battle of ideas that is raging in America. Then talk with Kim about partnership, sponsorship opportunities. Email Kim at kimmunson.com. Kim focuses on creating relationships with individuals and businesses that are tops in their fields, so they are the trusted experts listeners turn to when looking for products or services. Kim personally endorses each of her sponsors. Again, reach out to Kim at KimMunson.com.
SPEAKER 10 :
and welcome back to the kim munson show be sure and check out our website that is kim munson m-o-n-s-o-n.com sign up for a weekly email newsletter you'll get first look at our upcoming guests as well as our most recent essays and you can email me at kim kimmunson.com and the text line i'd love to hear from you is 720-605-0647. Please have on the line with me Representative Ken DeGraff. He represents Colorado House District 22, and he is one of our Colorado Union of Taxpayers 2024 guardians. So amazing work that he is doing down there. Welcome, Representative DeGraff.
SPEAKER 06 :
Good morning, Kim, and thank you for all the great work that CUT is doing.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, and we will be getting our email out to all the legislators here a little bit later when I opened up Bill Track 50 to see how many bills were scheduled for hearing for this week. Some of them are crossovers, but 127 bills, Representative DeGraff, and we're taking positions on 39, well, probably 39 of those. But it's crazy down there at the Statehouse.
SPEAKER 06 :
It really is a bill mill, Kim. It's just a chugging through. I don't think it's a responsible way to do government at all. And, you know, we just had a couple bills come through last week that like 1050 and 1077 that were, you know, that were reflective of this. You know, some of the issues were brought up last year, disregarded, and now they come back and they need a Now they need a cleanup bill. They need to have some of their impacts undone. Now, of course, a lot of the legislation would be better if it was just undone entirely, but those are two bills in particular.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, and 1077, that was that backflow of a kind of a, well, it was not necessarily a plumbing bill, but there was a bill that was passed last year. And as you said, it had some things that basically would put people out of business that were doing this backflow testing process. on systems. And so this bill had to clean that up. So we had to retake a look at that ourselves at CUT. And we are a yes on 1077. But you had emailed me over something regarding this House Bill 251050, the regional county jail approach. That was not a bill that we took a position on. But you had something in there that you were very concerned about.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, the concern there, again, was that it was, you know, there's concern about the safety clause. And then there was concern about that, you know, it was being brought up. But, again, it's to address issues that we should have brought up in the first time around. But the first time around, the emphasis was on safety. the blind emphasis was on jail standards. And of course, we need jail standards, but we have to have, you know, we have to do these things smartly. And, you know, we do have a lot of smart people in the GOP and the ideologically driven Democrat Party doesn't want to hear anything. So they just had a whole list of, you know, improving jail standards, et cetera. And a lot of them, you know, they were legitimate. But, you know, there are concerns. You can't, you know, contrary to the The Democrat opinion on this, taxpayers are not a bottomless source of money, and so we have to approach these things smartly. So there was some agreements that they wanted to put in place, and the bill precluded them. Now we need to go back and fix it to make sure that the jails can – upgrade appropriately. But some of these facilities, like a town that has over 2,000 people, you know, they can't afford the upgrades that are required. So that means they have to go and do partnerships with other jails. And those jails are going to be farther away. And That does create an inconvenience for people who are incarcerated, but that's kind of a fallout of what the bill requires. You can't have all jails that meet the standards that they want and then be able to do that affordably. Now, Colorado does have the money. I mean, we have the money in the ground. We can pull that out with our... severance taxes and we can pay for a lot of these programs we can uh we could do our own virgin version of doge and get rid of uh you know tons of wasteful spending where i would start of course is in the uh the green the green energy uh uh fraud so um but those those were two uh two in particular and then that we should have dealt with better the first time But like I said, the bill mill just keeps grinding and grinding and grinding. It doesn't want to slow down. And 120 bills coming this week, that's daunting right there.
SPEAKER 10 :
It really is for all that you're doing down there. Now, there was another one, House Bill 25-1035, that you were concerned about. It's called the changes to the collaborative management program. And you pulled out something regarding release of records that you were concerned about.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, 1035, you know, and I don't know how we'd get to the actual, you know, history of it. I suppose I could CORA it. But it was, you know, you can see what the bill is, you know, kind of taking these multiple programs, kind of merging them together, create some efficiencies. Seems to make sense. Brandy wasn't opposed, but at the last minute – you know, they added in committee when they do amendments, they added in this part where a child, youth, or family can release the medical records. Nothing will stand and nothing will preclude them from releasing medical records. So when you look at it, it's like, well, okay, so nothing would preclude a child from releasing his medical records. Well, that is a very dangerous thing. that's a very dangerous place to be because the, uh, you know, who knows what the medical records would be, who knows why somebody would want a child to release those medical records. And of course, you know, once the medical records have been released into, uh, you know, they become somebody else's property. They, uh, you know, it's not just a matter of them using them. It's a matter of releasing them. They have, they have control of them. They have the information and, um, You know, we're stepping very far outside of the protections of HIPAA and stepping outside the protections of HIPAA specifically targeted at children and youth. So I asked OLLS, I said, well, what is the definition of mainly it was on family, and they came back with child and youth as well, because I could find a definition for close family here. which was like parents and guardians. But this 1035 references specifically just as family. And family can be aunts, uncles, brothers, sisters, you know, a family member with, you know, there's just no solid definition in that title. Youth and children also have very ranging. Sometimes youth is less than 26. Sometimes it's less than 25. Sometimes it's less than 18. And then children, there's less than 12. A child might be less than 18. So I'll have to send that to you as well because it really highlights the inconsistencies. We have CRS that use words that do not have common or standard definitions.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, and the concern on this, and we see this on a regular basis, is giving children rights, overriding parental rights. So I think that's probably your concern with this particular language. And that was added in late, right?
SPEAKER 06 :
Yes, this is all very much around the age of consent where leading to more and degrading more and more a child's age of consent. I don't remember the bill, but a couple years ago it was regarding what they consider reproductive services. Of course, basically eliminating any bottom age on there for which a child could consent to reproductive services, which of course is fed aside, but it also included sterilization. And that was, I would say that was leading towards the surgeries and the genital mutilation surgeries that hopefully the executive orders will bring a halt to.
SPEAKER 10 :
Wow. Okay. And, boy, with so many bills, to be able to see these little things that then become law is really – it takes a lot of work to recognize that representative to graph. Now, I wanted to change gears just a little bit. You have been – all over this whole green energy agenda. And what I've learned is the green in the Green New Deal is the green that's going into politicians and bureaucrats and interested parties' pockets. And so you had a piece that was recently published at Complete Colorado. It says the SMART Act hearing puts costly Colorado climate policy in question. So just give us a little bit of info about that.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, the... Well, my piece doesn't do near the justice of your video or your movie that you did, so we'll put it in perspective. But the cost, we are spending hundreds of millions of dollars. We're leaving money in the ground for severance taxes, yet the governor and – The General Assembly wants to balance the budget on the severance taxes while making it more and more difficult to get that money out of the ground. And there's a continual push to lower carbon emission standards. Well, if you just do very simple math that carbon dioxide is – 0.04% of the atmosphere contributes less than 10% to the greenhouse gas effects since it's only about 2% of the relevant greenhouse gases because methane isn't even relevant. Carbon dioxide isn't relevant, and methane is about a thousandth of that or a hundredth. You know, when you look at that, there are over 3200 billion tons of CO2 in the atmosphere in that Colorado. generates in total about 0.125. So you really have to... So if you just put those things into perspective, if Colorado went net zero, and there's much dispute on whether the greenhouse gases are even what causes the temperature increase. It's probably more related to the atmospheric pressure. That it is... That... it would change about one ten-thousandth of a degree. So we're looking at bilking the citizens of the United States for about $12,000 per person per year, and that would change the temperature. If you did all 50 states, I suppose, maybe 50 ten-thousandths or five-thousandths of a degree. So you're not looking at any sort of meaningful reduction in temperature. And they know this. The governor knows it. The Colorado Energy Office knows it. And then in the SMART hearing, when I asked, Dr. Tour just went into a kind of a tangent of even if it wasn't a climate benefit, there were a lot of other benefits that came from limiting carbon dioxide, which, of course, is a fallacy. And you could achieve those all without imposing the energy costs that are imposed by the Green New Deal. And you're absolutely right. The only thing green about it is the money that's going into politicians' pockets. So my friends in the aviation business and the trucking business, it's like, you know, go burn that truck. go burn that gas and, uh, make the, uh, make the grass grow.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay. Well, representative to graph, I appreciate, uh, the work that you're doing down there, uh, at the state house. And, uh, so pleased that you, um, we're 2024 Colorado union of taxpayer guardian. That is a big deal. And we really do appreciate it. So, uh, I know fasten your seatbelt. You're ready for another week down at the state house.
SPEAKER 06 :
I don't know if I'm ready, but I sure appreciate the, uh, the help that you guys lend by reviewing because I do like to look at your positions and know that there's some good solid patriots that are also observing and looking at the bills to catch these details that we missed.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, together we will continue to do that. So Representative Kindergraf, Colorado House District 22, thank you so much.
SPEAKER 06 :
All right. Thanks, Kim. You have a great day.
SPEAKER 10 :
Absolutely. And at Colorado Union of Taxpayers, my fellow board members are Steve Dorman, Greg Golianski, Russ Haas, Bill Hamill, Rob Knuth, John Nelson, Wendy Warner, Marty Nielsen, Ramey Johnson, Mary Jansen, Dave Evans, and Corey Onazorg. And join us. It's only $25 a year. So for basically $2.08 a month, you will be getting hours and hours of analysis of what's happening down at the Statehouse. And that's the first thing to do to reclaim our state is to know what's going on. And join us by going to coloradotaxpayer.org. That is coloradotaxpayer.org. And all of this happens because of our sponsors. And one of those great sponsors is Karen Levine.
SPEAKER 02 :
With the limited number of homes in the Colorado Front Range market, Karen Levine can help you achieve your home buying or selling vision. Karen has the right connections, technology, and strategies to help you buy or sell your home or to purchase a new build. Whether you're feeling overwhelmed or want someone to take the wheel, or you just need a second opinion, you can rest assured that RE-MAX Realtor Karen Levine is the right agent for you. Call Karen Levine at 303-877-7516. Karen is the trusted professional who strives for excellence. That number is 303-877-7516.
SPEAKER 16 :
Lavaca Meat Company takes great pride in selling only the best. Lavaca Meat Company is a third generation family owned business with its roots in eastern Colorado. Lavaca means the cow in Spanish. As our name implies, we only sell beef. No poultry, pork, bison, or game. Just premium quality aged mouthwatering beef. Our store is located at the corner of Maine and Nevada in the historic Coors Building in downtown Littleton. For a steakhouse experience at home, visit us in person or shop online at LavacaMeat.com. Lavaca Meat Company, only the best. Again, that's LavacaMeat.com.
SPEAKER 15 :
All of Kim's sponsors are an inclusive partnership with Kim and are not affiliated with or in partnership with KLZ or Crawford Broadcasting. If you would like to support the work of The Kim Munson Show and grow your business, contact Kim at her website, kimmunson.com. That's Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com.
SPEAKER 10 :
Welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at Kim Munson dot com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And a lot happening in our world as Representative Ken DeGraff had mentioned and a couple of other headlines that I had wanted to mention as well was Woodland Park. This is a pretty big deal. and this is from krdo says the woodland park school board votes to recognize only two sexes and rejects gender ideology and these school boards are being threatened with lawsuits if in fact they do this and so this was um really a big deal that they have done this and um It's time that we finally get some sanity into what is happening in our school districts. And it is just, I think, my congratulations to Woodland Park for coming in here with some real common sense. Pleased to have on the line with me Dr. Everett Piper. And he is an author of the national bestseller, Not a Daycare, The Devastating Consequence of of abandoning truth he served as the president of oklahoma wesleyan university for 17 years which during that time he led the school from relative obscurity to a position of national recognition and influence he's a contributing columnist for the washington times has a new book out grow up life isn't safe but it's good dr piper welcome to the show well honored to be with you thanks for having me on Well, you've written a couple of really interesting pieces. And the first one was regarding Donald Trump's speech, his inaugural speech. And this was in the Washington Times. It says, while Trump celebrated our nation during his inaugural speech, Democrats sat and stared. And a really interesting perspective that you have here. So where would you like to begin?
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, I just think this is kind of a snapshot of the difference between one political family in the United States right now and the other. And when I say that, I'm referring to the Democrat being a family, a party, and then all others, independents, Republicans, constitutionalists, et cetera. And what I thought was stunning, just stunning during the inaugural speech that Donald Trump delivered, was how the Democrats who sat on the stage with him, those that sat to his left, if you watched the inaugural speech, you had Barack Obama, you had Jill and Joe Biden, Kamala Harris and her husband, and Bill and Hillary Clinton. And when Donald Trump spoke of freedom for all people, whether you're black or white, whether you're male or female, they sat and they stared. When he spoke of From this point forward in the United States of America, there will only be a male and female, something all of us, all of us, regardless of political stripe, would have acknowledged five minutes ago in human history when he said that henceforth we're going to honor women and that women will be treated as objective realities, as facts, if you will, rather than fabrications and feelings of dysphoric males. They sat and they stared. When he talked about being a colorblind society and that we will judge people by the content of their character. Quoting the words of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr., when he quoted Dr. King, the Democrat Party leadership sat and stared. Everything he said, they sat and stared. Now, if he would have been doubling down on his political agenda, which I guess there were a couple points during the inaugural speech where he did, I can appreciate the fact that Democrats might not want to applaud a specific agenda that's contrary to their stated values. But 90%, if not more, of what Donald Trump spoke of during his inaugural address, every thinking human being should be able to agree with, that we will judge people by their character, not the color of the skin, that America should represent freedom and security for all people, regardless of race, regardless of creed, regardless of sex, that America will be a place that protects its borders. Why is that controversial? Why would anybody sit on their hands and stare when the president of the United States says, I'm going to uphold my oath of office and guard and protect the borders of our country? Why is that a controversial thing to say? When the president says he's going to enforce the existing laws, the laws that are on the books with regard to immigration and have been on the books for decades, why is this controversial? Why does the Democrat Party sit and stare? You know, Dr. King once said that when you fail to stand for justice, when you fail to stand for what's right, when you fail to stand for what's true, you're dead. Your soul dies. And I think what we just saw was the Democrat Party acknowledging via their leadership that their soul is dead, that they don't stand for anything. And when you don't stand for anything, you'll fall for everything. And indeed, that seems to be the case. the snapshot, the snapshot in time that we witnessed during Donald Trump's inaugural address.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, Dr. Piper, there was a recent, I mentioned it earlier in the show, a New York Times poll that they reported, I think it was New York Times, maybe working with a polling company, that says that the Democrat Party is out of step with what people care about here in the United States. And when it comes down to people's own personal economy, that's one of the first things that really matters. And with the prices at the grocery store and at the gas pump and all of that is because of public policy, people are realizing it and That's why I think Donald Trump was elected is because this Democrat Party is not the Democrat Party of your grandparents or JFK. This is a Democrat Party is taken over by radical activist extremist ideologues. And those are the ones that were sitting on the stage and that were staring.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, absolutely. And I think proof to your point is the fact that two Democrats that Donald Trump has nominated to serve on his cabinet, RFK Jr. and Tulsi Gabbard, two individuals who have run as Democrats for the presidency of the United States. The Democrat Party is the most venomous and vitriolic. The Democrats are those that are most opposed to these old guard Democrats that actually have an ability to think politically and set aside for the good of the public. I don't agree with JFK Jr. on a lot, but what I'm impressed with is that he's willing to set aside some of the things that he knows that Republicans will not embrace and will not support. He's setting those aside for the sake of just trying to make our country healthier again by getting the poison out of our food and the poison out of our vaccinations, etc., and giving us freedom to choose healthier food and freedom to choose what medications we want and don't want in our bodies. Most people, if not almost all, rational people can agree with that, but Democrats are opposed to him, and rabidly so. Why? I would argue it's because they're angry that somebody dared contradict their leadership, their agenda, their woke, progressive ideology. Somebody dared to contradict that and woe be unto him who dares jump ship. Tulsi Gabbard, they hate Tulsi Gabbard. Why? Because she took on the establishment. She called Hillary Clinton out for being who she is, and they'll never forgive Tulsi Gabbard for doing so. So the Democrat party of her grandpa, maybe Tulsi Gabbard and RFK Jr. represent that, but that party is dead. And the proof of it is they have treated Tulsi Gabbard and RFK Jr. as anathema. They've cast them out. They despise them more than they do Marco Rubio. This is the irony of the Democrat Party right now.
SPEAKER 10 :
So if you're saying that the Democrat Party is dead, what do you think that means for the future for politics in America?
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, I think there's two possibilities. One, we need to be careful that the pendulum always swings in leadership. When I was president of Oklahoma Wesleyan University, I had an agenda. I had a style. I had a way of communicating. You could guarantee it. As sure as the cows are going to come home in the morning, you could guarantee it that the leadership that followed me would represent swinging the pendulum back a little bit and correcting for some of my weaknesses, but yet perhaps not forgetting some of my strengths. That happens in leadership. We need to be careful right now not to celebrate too long and too aggressively with regard to this Donald Trump win. And I'm not a Trumper per se. Some of the people that are listening right now know that I've been criticized robustly by the pro-Trump card because I've dared to call Donald Trump out when I think he's wrong. And I think conservatives should be willing to do that. So if we want to continue to be leaders, as we have been given the baton to do so right now, we need to recognize that there are – Times when conservatives need to call their leadership out and say, no, we disagree with this. We're not going to go along with that. Celebrate our leaders when they're right, but criticize them when they're wrong. Conservatives should be able to do that because we vote for a constitution, not a king. We vote for principles, not a person. Conservatives should conserve the time-tested truth. And the only way you can do that is speak truth to power, even your own power base is and tell them that you disagree if you think they're going down the wrong path. So if we do that, I think the American people will respect us for doing that, and we'll get their vote again. But if we don't, watch out. The pendulum will swing back the other way, and the Democrats are just waiting for the Trump administration to fail at X or Y or Z, and then they'll call for the pendulum to swing dramatically back the other direction, perhaps even further than it was with Joe Biden and Kamala Harris, and that'll be a very dangerous time.
SPEAKER 10 :
That would be a very dangerous time. Absolutely. And so we're going to continue the discussion with Dr. Everett Piper. And I did want to mention the Center for American Values, which is located in Pueblo, Colorado. It's located on the beautiful Riverwalk there. And they do several things, honor our Medal of Honor recipients with their beautiful portraits of valor. And if you want to see that, you've got a great event on Wednesday. Wednesday, the 12th of February, they will have an On Values presentation with Drew Dix, who's one of the co-founders, and he's also a Medal of Honor recipient. And he was stationed in Greenland for many years, which Greenland's in the news these days. And the title, I think, is The Real Cold War. And so a great opportunity down at the Center for American Values. Give them a call. Let them know. Give them an RSVP if you're planning on attending. And I know that they'd love to have you. And that website is AmericanValueCenter.org, AmericanValueCenter.org. And I have all these discussions because of our sponsors. And for everything mortgages, reach out to Lorne Levy.
SPEAKER 17 :
If you're 62 or older, a reverse mortgage could be a great tool regarding retirement and estate planning. It is essential to understand the process. Lorne Levy with Polygon Financial Group has nearly 20 years in the mortgage industry and has the experience to answer your questions. Call Lauren at 303-880-8881. Licensed in 49 states, Kim Monson highly recommends Lauren Levy for all your mortgage needs. Call Lauren at 303-880-8881.
SPEAKER 14 :
You'd like to get in touch with one of the sponsors of The Kim Monson Show, but you can't remember their phone contact or website information. Find a full list of advertising partners on Kim's website, kimmonson.com. That's Kim, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com.
SPEAKER 16 :
Franktown Firearms and Shooting Range has everything you need to be fully trained with your firearm. They have multiple levels of training, including pistol, rifle, and shotgun that will make you feel better, faster, and safer no matter what your skill level. Classes are taught in a group setting, or you can schedule one-on-one instruction from the qualified instructors at Franktown Firearms. Learn from our seasoned instructors, including veterans of law enforcement and military, SWAT, and special forces. so you can trust that the training they give you is second to none. Franktown also makes obtaining your concealed carry permit convenient and will ensure you have all you need to get your permit quickly and safely. The staff prides themselves on friendliness, and you will feel comfortable and in capable hands. And Franktown is always where friends are made. So if you're ready to take your shooting skills to the next level with friendly, qualified staff, contact Franktown Firearms on the klzradio.com advertisers page.
SPEAKER 10 :
And welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Check out our website. That is Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice. We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. and wanted to say thank you to Laramie Energy for their gold sponsorship of the show. It's this reliable, efficient, affordable, and abundant energy that powers our lives, fuels our hopes and dreams, and empowers us to change our own personal climate, to be warm in the winter and cool in the summer. all that's been under attack from a legislative and regulatory standpoint and that's why we need to shed light on all of these things that's happening also wanted to mention the usmc memorial foundation which is a non-profit i dearly love the official marine memorials right here in colorado and apollo sorrels who is the president of the foundation she's a gold star wife as well as a marine veteran She and the team are working diligently with great events to raise the money for that remodel, and you can get more information by going to usmcmemorialfoundation.org. On the line with me is Dr. Everett Piper. He's a columnist at The Washington Times and former... president of Oklahoma Wesleyan University. And he has a piece that was recently published, Questions for Bishop, is it Booty and the Church of Never Trump or Buddy? I'm not sure how you pronounce that, Dr. Piper.
SPEAKER 05 :
You know, I'm not sure either, but I think everybody knows who we're talking about. I pronounce it Boudet, but I could be wrong. It's Bishop Marianne Boudet. She's the Episcopal priest, the bishop that spoke at the National Cathedral. And as everyone knows, she scolded Donald Trump and J.D. Vance for essentially what she was terming putting fear into the lives of so many Americans and causing violence. consternation and concern in the lives of those immigrants that are here illegally. So I wrote a piece responding to that because it seems like, especially if you're politically left or, you know, even if you're in the middle and you lean a little bit on the progressive side, even within the church, Everybody seems to be rushing to the bishop's side and saying, well, yes, you know, the Bible calls upon us to welcome the sojourner and the foreigner in our midst. Leviticus 19, verses 33 and 34 are very clear that we must do that. So the bishop is right, and Donald Trump is wrong, and J.D. Vance is wrong, and these Trumpers are cruel, heartless people that are doing— that hold ill will for those that disagree with them, especially the illegal immigrant among us. And I just think that is incredibly ridiculous. It's unbiblical, number one. I mean, you've got the general superintendent of the Wesleyan Church, which is supposedly a conservative holiness church. Wayne Schmidt is his name. He's saying that his denomination is experiencing great, quote, anxiety and uncertainty because the president intends to enforce the law. You've got the Free Methodist General Board, the Free Methodist Church, a smaller holiness denomination offshoot of the Methodist Church. They're saying that there's deep concern. for the very real pain that members of their community are experiencing. Then you have the Catholic Archbishop, Timothy Broglio. He's saying that the United States policies to enforce the law are deeply troubling. And Mark Seitz, he's a bishop of the Catholic Church. He's on the Conference of Catholic Bishops, the Committee for Migration. He indicated that he thinks it's a fundamental right of every human person to be respected and that Donald Trump and J.D. Vance and the Trumpers and MAGA are disrespecting human persons. And, of course, we've seen Pope Francis. He's calling Donald Trump's administration a disgrace. So I have a question. As you know, I've got multiple questions of these people who are saying this. What is so bad about Trump? trying to attend to the need, showing compassion to the 300,000 children who have been trafficked by cartels into the heartland of America. These children are now missing. So why is that bad? Because that's what we want to do. That's what MAGA is trying to stop. That's what Donald Trump is going to address. He's going to stop this child trafficking across our southern border. Even the Democrats admit that we've lost 300,000 children. We don't know where they are. How about the quarter of a million people who have been killed by fentanyl? Shouldn't we have mercy and care for them? What about deep concern for the tens of thousands of women who have been forced into prostitution? That's a fact. Everybody knows it. And what about the blue-collar folks of Springfield, Ohio? Do we feel real pain for them because they've lost their neighborhoods and their public parks and their local schools and their security and their fundamental property rights? At the hands of thousands of vagrants who have been trucked, bused into their community and are literally camping out on their front yards and on their local streets. What about these blue collar folks? Don't we have compassion, care and mercy for them? And what about the people in your backyard or at least close to your backyard out there in Colorado, Aurora, Colorado, the Hispanic Americans? who have suffered the loss of their safety at the hands of violent gangs who have infiltrated their community and even taken over local hotels. I could go on and on and on. What about the rancher on the southern border who's losing his cattle and his livestock and his livelihood? His very livelihood is being lost. because of these terrible policies that we've had for the last four years? What about all the women who fear that they could be like Lincoln Riley and therefore they don't want to go for a jog on their college campus or in the local park? Don't we have care and compassion for them? Don't we feel some anxiety for those women? And how about all the working blue collar, perhaps middle class or below in Chicago and Los Angeles and New York? What about their freedom, their security? What about their property? What about their schools? Do we care about these people who have been victimized by the foolhardy policies of the Biden administration? If you want to talk about care and compassion, fine. But then I've got this for the bishop and all those other progressive Christians that I've cited here that are aligning with the bishop of the National Cathedral. What have you done? Have you torn down the fence around your backyard? Have you removed the locks from your front door? Have you stopped locking your car? Have you opened up your kitchen to all comers that can come in, open the fridge and have a snack regardless of who they are? Are you allowing illegals to live in your home, to take over your guest rooms and to live next to your children with no questions asked? Have you done all of that? Well, if you haven't, If you haven't done all that, I'd suggest that you're basically saying, do as I do, excuse me, do as I say, not as I do, and you're kind of just a sanctimonious hypocrite. And by the way, by the way, the Bible does not say, Leviticus does not say that we are to welcome the person who flaunts our laws. The book of Nehemiah is about building a wall to keep those people out of Jerusalem, right? Go read the book of Nehemiah and recognize that in the Hebrew language, there are three different words for foreigner. There's ger, G-E-R, there's zar, Z-A-R, and there's nekar, N-E-K-H-R. Those three words represent the foreigner. Now, only one of those words, G-E-R, represents the legal immigrant who enters your country legally, complies with the laws of entry, and then also obeys all the laws once in the country with the intent of staying and becoming a naturalized citizen. That's the person. That's the person that the Bible is talking about, not the person who ignores all those laws. And even czar and the car, the other two words, represent a traveler or a tourist or somebody who's going through the country on a temporary visa, if you will, or a green card for business purposes. Those are the people that the Ger and the Tsar and the Nicar are talking about. It's not talking about the enemy that infiltrates the country, breaks down the walls, and then tries to circumvent and undo the very culture and the very fabric of the country that he has entered into. The Bible does not call for honoring that. And by the way, if the Pope disagrees with what I just said, then they should tear down the walls of the Vatican and get rid of the Swiss Guard and give all the papal apartments over to illegal immigrants. Then and only then am I going to take him seriously.
SPEAKER 10 :
Wow. Dr. Everett Piper, thank you so much. And again, you people can find your columns at The Washington Times. And do you have another one that people do? Do you know what your next one is going to be yet?
SPEAKER 05 :
I don't. I come up with it throughout the course of the week. But my articles are published every weekend at The Washington Times, so go there. It's a great newspaper. People should subscribe if they want good conservative news. My website is drevertpiper.com. That's D-R-E-V-E-R-E-T-T-P-I-P-E-R.com. And you can follow me there. You can book me for speaking engagements, follow my writing, etc.,
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, thank you for your great work. And again, that's Dr. Everett Piper. Our quote for the end of the show is from W. Clement Stone. He says, aim for the moon. If you miss, you may hit a star. So today, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals, and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you. God bless America. Stay tuned for hour number two.
SPEAKER 08 :
I don't want no one to cry, but tell them if I don't survive, I was born.
SPEAKER 13 :
The views and opinions expressed on KLZ 560 are those of the speaker, commentators, hosts, their guests, and callers. They are not necessarily the views and opinions of Crawford Broadcasting or KLZ management, employees, associates, or advertisers. KLZ 560 is a Crawford Broadcasting God and country station.
SPEAKER 11 :
It's the Kim Munson Show, analyzing the most important stories.
SPEAKER 10 :
The socialization of transportation, education, energy, housing, and water, what it means is that government controls it through rules and regulations.
SPEAKER 11 :
The latest in politics and world affairs.
SPEAKER 10 :
Under the guise of bipartisanship and nonpartisanship, it's actually tapping down the truth.
SPEAKER 11 :
Today's current opinions and ideas.
SPEAKER 10 :
On an equal field in the battle of ideas, mistruths and misconceptions is getting us into a world of hurt.
SPEAKER 11 :
Is it freedom or is it force? Let's have a conversation.
SPEAKER 10 :
Indeed. Let's have a conversation. Welcome to our number two of the Kim Munson Show. Thank you so much for joining us. You're each treasured. You're valued. You have purpose. Today, strive for excellence. Take care of your heart, your soul, your mind, and your body. My friends, we were made for this moment in history. Thank you to the team, Producer Joe, Luke, Rachel, Zach, Echo, Charlie, Mike, Teresa, all the people here at Crawford Broadcasting. Happy Monday, Producer Joe.
SPEAKER 17 :
Happy Monday, Kim.
SPEAKER 10 :
And a lot's coming in on the text line, Joe, and we will address a lot of that in the last segment of this hour. So keep those cards and letters coming. That text line is 720-605-0647. Check out the website. That is Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You'll get first look at our upcoming guests as well as our most recent essays. You can email me at Kim at Kim Munson dot com. And thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice. We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. On the show, we're focusing on issues and we'll mention the people, but not focusing on the personalities. We want to stay on these issues so that we have a clear understanding of all of that. The show comes to you 6 to 8 a.m. Monday through Friday. First hour is rebroadcast 1 to 2 in the afternoon. Second hour, 10 to 11 at night. That's on all KLZ 560 platforms. KLZ 560 AM, KLZ 100.7 FM, the KLZ website, and the KLZ app. So the show comes to you because of sponsors. One of those is Hooters restaurants and how I got to know them. Super important story about freedom and free markets and capitalism. They have five locations, Loveland, Aurora, Lone Tree, Westminster and Colorado Springs. Of course, they're going to have all kinds of specials for the Super Bowl. So be sure and check that out. And how I got to know them, very important story about freedom of free markets and capitalism and politicians and bureaucrats and interested parties that were trying to control our lives. And it's an important story. You can get that at my website. Our word of the day is counterpoise. It's C-O-U-N-T-E-R-P-O-I-S-E. It's a noun. It could be a counterbalancing weight. Number two, a force or influence that balances or equally counteracts another or the state of being in equilibrium. And the Donald Trump administration is a real counterpoise. regarding this radical activist extremist movement that has been pushed by the Democrats and those that control the Democrat Party now. This Democrat Party, my friends, is not the Democrat Party of your grandpa and your grandma. This is now being controlled by radical activists, socialists that really have a communist Marxist agenda. We're seeing that down here at the State House right here. In Colorado, that's why the work of the Colorado Union of Taxpayers is so important. And we will be getting our email out a little bit later with positions on a number of bills that are scheduled for hearing for this week. We'd love to have you join us. Go to ColoradoTaxpayer.org. It's just $25. And when you do that, you will also receive that email that goes to the legislators and the governor themselves. keeping you informed, and that's the first step in reclaiming our state. Our quote of the day is from W. Clement Stone. He was an American businessman, philanthropist, and New Thought self-help book author. He was born in 1902, died in 2002. He said, this truth will always be truth, regardless of the lack of understanding. Truth and we search for truth and clarity on the show so that we can really understand these issues. And we've got to reclaim our state and our country. And why? Because we owe it to our children and our children's children. We have a duty, and it is important that we shed light on all of this. I did want to mention, before I forget, a climate conversation. Representative DeGraff had mentioned our documentary, and he understands this whole green agenda as well. This is green that is going into PBI's pockets. But as Holly, our listener, said, all of this money that's going to the Green New Deal or to the NGOs that have facilitated illegal immigration into our country, that is money that is being taken out of our pockets. Or if we're borrowing it, we're borrowing it from our children's future. Because you cannot give something to someone that you have not first taken from someone else. And so it's really, really important to understand that. I do thank Laramie Energy for their gold sponsorship of the show. It's this reliable, efficient, affordable, and abundant energy that powers our lives, fuels our hopes and dreams, and empowers us to change our own personal climate. This is under attack. And that is to be warm in the winter and cool in the summer. And everyday people are under attack by this radical activist, extremist, socialist agenda. And that's why we have to shed light on it and push back on it. And it happens because I get to work with a lot of really great people. And I'm talking with Roger Mangan with the Roger Mangan State Farm Insurance Team. And people here in Colorado are concerned about these California wildfires and how they are going to impact us. So what would you say to that, Roger?
SPEAKER 18 :
well it will have an impact on several insurance companies state farms a little different of course it has an impact but that impact hits us differently than other companies let me give you a little background on what's happened as of january 21st in terms of state firms contact and filing of claims to this up to this date the 21st of january we will have paid out nine We will have set up 9,000 claims and paid out $150 million. 96% of State Farm insurance have acted. Interestingly enough, that contact really is constituted more by media messaging because there's with people other than through the mainstream media. Now State Farm is the largest insurer in LA County and has been there since 1928 with 2,000 State Farm agents. And 8 million policies. So wow, 8 million. That's a lot of policy. So how much of a loss are we going to take? We have no idea at this point, but the point is we are there. We're there helping people. We assure over a million homes in the high risk areas of LA County. And certain zip codes in California. We did not renew policies. If you might remember, we've got some bad trash suspect in 2023. We not renewed 2% of those policies, which was about 72,000 policies out of a million. So keep in mind that State Farm is running a business and we have to reduce our exposure. So we did along with other companies doing the same thing. And basically people in Colorado should understand the construct in terms of how a State Farm is organized itself. We have a general company in California, which is not attached to State Farm that we have here in Colorado. So that general company collects premiums and then buys insurance, excessive coverage from State Farm itself. So if we have a loss in California and in California, let's say it bankrupts the State Farm General Fire Company, which conceivably it could do, depending on the severity of claims, and that remains to be seen. So they have reinsurance through State Farm, Mother Mutual back in Bloomington, Illinois. So they stand alone. These companies stand alone. They are not attached to State Farm insurance. They're independently standalone companies. So if they go belly up, then State Farm is going to go belly up. So I just wanted you as a listener to understand that. I want you to please keep in mind that State Farm is uniquely positioned compared to most other insurance companies in that. State Farm is not a stock company. We're a mutual company. We're not answerable to any stockholders. So when we make decisions relative to our policyholder group, We have them in mind first before we have to pay dividends to shareholders like most other insurance companies. So what happens is we're insulated from pressures that other insurance companies are not. That's a good thing and that helps us in Colorado. Now, to give you an example what the issue is in California, California is a regulated company. Before a company The insurance company can increase rates. It needs permission from the insurance authorities in California. What happened is in 2020 to 2021, the cost went up 25% in terms of claim costs in California. The authorities in California only allowed a 4.6% rate increase. So you can see a company that had asked for a 25% adjustment or at least to cover part of that expense only got 4.6. They're losing money. They can't keep selling insurance with those ratios in mind. So again, important to know in Colorado, we are a file and use state. What that means is we file our rates. We don't need permission from the insurance commissioner. the insurance authorities in colorado we file them we use them and if they are too high competition will knock that down by us not running business and we're regulated by the consumer who looks at that rate and says votes yes or votes no on our rates so we have two concepts we have a controlled rate environment in california and many many years Insurance companies have been denied rate increases in California, therefore have left or have not been able to pay claims, and therefore they eventually leave. In Colorado, that's not the case.
SPEAKER 10 :
Super interesting, and love how the free market can make this whole thing work much better. So, Roger Mangan, if people want more information, sit down with a complimentary appointment with your team. What's that phone number?
SPEAKER 18 :
Yeah, please call us at 303-795-8855. We have a great team. They're there to help you.
SPEAKER 10 :
They're all very highly trained, experienced, and will do a great job. And again, that's the Roger Mangan State Fireman Insurance Team, 303-795-8855.
SPEAKER 02 :
With the limited number of homes in the Colorado Front Range market, Karen Levine can help you achieve your home buying or selling vision. Karen has the right connections, technology, and strategies to help you buy or sell your home or to purchase a new build. Whether you're feeling overwhelmed or want someone to take the wheel, or you just need a second opinion, you can rest assured that RE-MAX Realtor Karen Levine Call Karen Levine at 303-877-7516. Karen is the trusted professional who strives for excellence. That number is 303-877-7516.
SPEAKER 14 :
You'd like to get in touch with one of the sponsors of The Kim Munson Show, but you can't remember their phone contact or website information. Find a full list of advertising partners on Kim's website, kimmunson.com. That's Kim, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com.
SPEAKER 10 :
And welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is KimMunson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice. We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. We're all watching this Trump administration with just... Lots of curiosity on what is going to happen next. And, of course, we have DOGE, the Department of Government Efficiency, which Elon Musk is heading up. And we need to lower this debt, take a look at what we're spending from a federal budget standpoint. And so I wanted to talk with Dr. Paul Prentice about that. He's a professional economist. He's retired after a 45-year career in government, business, and academia. He was an economic advisor to President Reagan. Thank you so much for having me. He helped found the El Paso County Tea Party, was a fellow at the Sentinel Institute at Colorado Christian University, and he's also served on the Board of Advisors of the Bastiat Society of Colorado. And he's now serving as a senior fellow at the Independence Institute here in Denver, an associate scholar of the Ludwig von Mises Institute in Auburn, Alabama. So he probably knows what he's talking about. Dr. Prentice, welcome to the show.
SPEAKER 04 :
Good morning, Kim. Thank you so much.
SPEAKER 10 :
Really impressive resume on this. And this is such an important issue. We've been spinning ourselves into oblivion here in America. And Donald Trump wants to get that turned around. So what do you see regarding the federal budget and how can we slow down this debt, lower this debt? Because if we don't, we're headed towards disaster, I think.
SPEAKER 04 :
I would agree, Kim. I'd like to start off with some basic definitions and then a little history of the federal budget and the deficit and the debt. And then I'd like to dispel two major myths that are out there about this. And then we'll see if we have time to talk about some other things. Okay, let's do it. Okay. First of all, the federal budget, as with the family budget, consists of Revenue coming in and expenditures going out, right? So the federal budget is revenue minus expenditures. And when expenditures exceed revenue, that's what's called a deficit. And if you accumulate all the deficits year after year after year, you add each year's new deficit to the existing amount of outstanding debt. So when you look at debt, it's the summation of all the cumulative deficits over all the years. So those are our basic definitions. I would note to your listeners that the founders made both a moral argument against federal debt as well as a financial argument. The moral argument was made primarily by Thomas Jefferson. He said federal debt was basically swindling future generations, and he said that in 1816. And so the founding fathers, the founding generation, if you will, They repaid all of the Revolutionary War debt. So there was no federal debt. After about 1830 or so, they had all been paid off. And that lasted for quite a while. There was no additional accumulation of federal debt until the Civil War in about 1860. And then the massive amount of debt was accumulated in the Civil War. And as with the Revolutionary War, that Civil War debt was paid down over the next 20 years or so. So we had a very low debt level in 1915 or so. And then World War I. And what was different about World War I following World War I was prior to World War I, the institution known as the Federal Reserve, was put into place. And we had, for the first time, we had a system of instead of hard money, we had a system of debt disguised as money. So very interesting. After World War I, we did not pay off the World War I debt. We only paid off less than half of it. And that was followed. So we kept all this massive debt, accumulating debt, accumulating debt. And then the spending for the Great Depression and World War II just exploded. our federal debt, and we didn't pay off all of that either. And then we come to LBJ's Great Society in the late 1960s, trying to pay for both the Vietnam War and the new entitlement programs, and that started to explode again. Where we are today is shocking. I mean, the numbers... I went through a lot of analysis. I built a spreadsheet. I did some graphing. And, Tim, it's just staggering, staggering what's happened to debt. So I would like to make the claim that the problem is not the revenue. There's plenty of revenue. In fact, Washington, D.C. is awash in our tax revenue. The problem is on the spending. And if we don't tackle the spending side, the economy will eventually collapse and America will eventually collapse. It's an existential threat, in my opinion. We're now at about $37 trillion of debt, and we only have GDP of about $30 trillion. So we have more debt than we have actually income being generated every year, and that's completely unsustainable. And it looks like we're on path, unless President Trump can turn this around, to have... Additional deficits where every year the federal government spends about $2 trillion more than it takes in and adds that much to the debt every year as far as the eye can see. So we've got a very difficult, very dangerous situation here. And that's kind of the history of where we are and a little bit of how we got here.
SPEAKER 10 :
So Donald Trump is taking actions. This has been really interesting watching this regarding federal workers and this buyout for them. What do you think about that, Dr. Prentice?
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, that would increase spending in the short run because of the buyout, but it would reduce it over time. Um, but it's not enough. It's just not enough. The numbers are so staggering. Uh, we're currently spending about $7 trillion on the federal federal budget, and we're only generating $5 trillion in revenue. So it's a good start and I wish Doge all the best, but there's so much to this that it's, uh, it's, it's gotta be very serious. I'd heard over the weekend that there was a meeting of Republican leaders in Mar-a-Lago that they promised to cut something like $360 billion from current spending. And if you look at the fine print, that's over 10 years. So it's like $36 billion a year they're cutting out of a $2 trillion annual deficit. This is a joke. These people are not serious. I call them the political ruling class of both parties. Some other people call them our sociopathic overlords. but something has got to change, and President Trump has got to get a firm handle on this. My main disappointment in his first term, it was fabulous in a lot of ways, but he did not control spending. He just let everything get out of control, and so I hope he's learned a lesson on that.
SPEAKER 10 :
So where can we cut? As you've looked at the budget, where could we cut? Because the first thing that politicians will say is they'll say that the sacred cows such as Social Security and Medicare are on the table. So what would you say to that, Dr. Prentice?
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, that's one of the myths that the political ruling class likes to pull over on us. They break the budget into what they call the expending into discretionary spending where they have to vote every year on the line items or on the total budget versus non-discretionary spending, which is spending that's allocated by some preexisting formula. And they actually pretend that they have no control over the non-discretionary spending, which means the people have no control in their view over the spending. But of course they can. They can allocate things differently in non-discretionary. They can change the formulas. They can adapt. They can make changes. Certainly, Social Security and Medicare have to be addressed, but there's plenty of money in the federal budget if they would just stop the wasteful fraud and abuse spending. I'll go into a couple of extreme examples just in a few minutes, but the idea of discretionary versus non-discretionary spending is a myth. It's all discretionary. It just depends on whether you want to pass a new law or not.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay. I'm talking with Dr. Paul Prentice regarding the federal budget strategies for lowering and slowing this debt, which we've got to do this. We are in such a dangerous time regarding the finances of America. And, of course, last week we talked with General Joe Arbuckle regarding enemies abroad. And This is we're in a very disruptive time right now, which we have to be. And this is this is difficult as we are going through and asking these hard questions. But we have a duty to ask these questions, my friends, because what has been given to us in this American idea by our founders is. is at great risk right now because of all of these decisions. And so that's why we have to really take a look at that. And we have these important discussions because of our sponsors. And one of those is Lavaca Meat Company. And if you go to Lavaca Meat Company, which is on the corner of Main and Nevada and Old Littleton, and if you say the word buffalo, you will get 10% off. I dropped by the other day, and I said the word buffalo, and I got 10% off that meal. They're great premium beef there, so be sure and check that out at Lavaca Meat Company.
SPEAKER 16 :
Lavaca Meat Company takes great pride in selling only the best. Lavaca Meat Company is a third-generation family-owned business with its roots in eastern Colorado. Lavaca means the cow in Spanish. As our name implies, we only sell beef. No poultry, pork, bison, or game. Just premium quality, aged, mouth-watering beef. Our store is located at the corner of Maine and Nevada in the historic Coors Building in downtown Littleton. For a steakhouse experience at home, visit us in person or shop online at LavacaMeat.com. Lavaca Meat Company, only the best. Again, that's LavacaMeat.com.
SPEAKER 17 :
If you're 62 or older, a reverse mortgage could be a great tool regarding retirement and estate planning. It is essential to understand the process. Lorne Levy with Polygon Financial Group has nearly 20 years in the mortgage industry and has the experience to answer your questions. Lauren understands that each financial transaction is personal. If you'd like to explore your options on a reverse mortgage, remodel your home, buy a rental property or move, call Lauren Levy at 303-880-8881. Licensed in 49 states, Kim Monson highly recommends Lauren Levy for all your mortgage needs. Call Lauren at 303-880-8881.
SPEAKER 12 :
Focused and wise marketing is essential for your success, especially during tough economic times. If you love The Kim Munson Show, strive for excellence and understand the importance of engaging in the battle of ideas that is raging in America. Then talk with Kim about partnership, sponsorship opportunities. Email Kim at kimmunson.com. Kim focuses on creating relationships with individuals and businesses that are tops in their fields. So they are the trusted experts listeners turn to when looking for products or services. Kim personally endorses each of her sponsors. Again, reach out to Kim at KimMunson.com.
SPEAKER 10 :
to the Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is KimMunson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And do check out the website for the USMC Memorial Foundation and make sure that you add them in as one of the places that you will contribute money this year. And that way we can help them make this remodel a reality. The memorial is located at 6th and Colfax right out here in Golden, Colorado. It is the official Marine Memorial and that website is usmcmemorialfoundation.org. On the line with me is Dr. Paul Prentice. He is a professional economist. He had a 45-year career in government, business, academia, and was an economic advisor to President Reagan, presidential candidate Herman Cain, and President Donald J. Trump. Dr. Prentice, you had mentioned the words wasteful defraud and wasteful spending. Or maybe you didn't use the word defraud, but I think that we have been defrauded by a bunch of this spending. So getting that under control, what does that number look like? How far will that go towards the $2 trillion in deficits?
SPEAKER 1 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 04 :
I would argue that almost all the federal budget is waste, fraud, and aviar. Okay. But we certainly need some military. The defense budget is naturally part of the constitutionally allowed spending, but almost everything else that's being spent by the federal government is unconstitutional. Back to your question that what can we cut or what can we do, we don't necessarily have to cut anything if we just stop the increase. Tim, if we just hold the line on the federal budget, we could grow out of this problem because revenue would come in as the economy keeps growing year after year after year. But the problem is up until now, and including 2024, for every dollar of new revenue the federal government took in, they spent $1.26. And you can't do that as a household, and you can't do that as a collection of households known as a nation state. What are the line items? There's a huge political battle going to be here as to what's hold the line, what gets spent, what gets not spent. And I don't want to focus on that so much as a higher level concept known as baseline budgeting versus base budgeting, if that's okay. It sounds a little arcane, sure, but it's important. The federal budget, when you're in the federal agencies, let's say this coming year, You would typically take last year's budget, then you'd add your new appropriations onto this. So the last year, the previous year, becomes the baseline from which you grow. Another way to do budgeting, a more sane way in my opinion, is to do zero-based budgeting, where every year you have to justify every single program from the start of the very first dollar. The problem with baseline budgeting is everything gets locked in. When George W. Bush and then Barack Obama increased spending by a trillion dollars approximately to bail out the banks from the recession of 08, 09, 10, that trillion dollars of spending did not go away. It just got shifted to different programs and agencies, and that trillion was in the budget every year since 2010. The same with COVID. There was $2 trillion of additional spending in 2020 from COVID. And guess what? COVID's been over for several years now, but that $2 trillion was spent in 2020, spent in 2021, 22, 23, and 24. They're still spending that $2 trillion because it's become part of the baseline. These people are – I don't know. President Reagan once said to say that Congress spends like drunken sailors is an insult to drunken sailors. The numbers are shocking, Kim. The numbers are just shocking, and we cannot continue like this. We cannot.
SPEAKER 10 :
So what do you think about Trump's this buyout regarding federal workers? Certainly, there's a big disruption on that. And, you know, there are people that are working for the federal government. They have house payments and What do you think about all that? Because this is certainly disrupting a whole bunch of or putting a concern in a number of people's lives. So what do you think about that?
SPEAKER 04 :
Sure. First, there's no guarantee to anything. employment in the private sector. There should be no guarantee to employment in the public sector. If you're not doing something useful, you should not get paid. You should find a job that is useful somewhere. The proposal, Trump's proposal to buy out the federal workers includes either a six, I can't remember, or a nine-month buyout.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, I think it was seven months maybe. Okay, so let's say seven months.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, you know, you've got to notice that you're going to be laid off in seven months. You've got seven months to find a new life. That's plenty of time for any rational, functioning human being.
SPEAKER 10 :
And do you think that this would really make a difference regarding the federal budget?
SPEAKER 04 :
Oh, sure. Absolutely, yeah. It's a lot of money. I don't know the total, but it's a lot of money that would be paid out in advance for people – that are not necessarily going to work, but they weren't working anyway. Let's remember that. I was there. Okay. So then going forward after that's done, that would be a line item that would be lower than the year before. But the baseline budgeting is just going to be, unless something happens to the baseline budgeting, these agencies keep playing a game we call them in D.C., Under Reagan, every agency played a game called, quote, capture the baseline. As the budget comes around, you have to capture last year's spending as a base and then increase it from that. So this would be a break from that kind of thinking and certainly would be closer to zero-based budgeting. But still, it's just the tip of the iceberg. It's the tip of the iceberg.
SPEAKER 10 :
And so if we froze federal spending right now, and that is something really that Congress should do. It should not be executive order, but there's not been the political will to do that, correct?
SPEAKER 04 :
Correct. Yeah, the one thing that I certainly hope for our future is that all these executive orders that President Trump is putting into place can be turned into legislation, because if not that, then the very next administration could just overturn them again the way Biden did. So let's have a big push for our legislators to make some of these things into legislation. And they can. They act like they can't control something, but of course they control it. That's their job.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay, so with this, you think that it, so I think I'm hearing this, Dr. Prentice, freeze spending would be, so do that, number one, freeze spending, go after this wasteful fraud and abuse spending as well, and then get this economy really growing, and we should be able to grow our way in, out of these deficits and this debt, right? Now, that's a tall order, but that seems like that's what I hear you say.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yes, Kim, we are close to the tipping point, but we're not over it yet. There is still time to get this done. There's time for some strong leadership. And certainly we have that in President Trump, but he did not exhibit that during his first term. So we will see. I think he's more serious now. And I just wish we had senators and congressmen that would take it as seriously. I could just encourage your listeners to keep mailing and emailing and calling every single state senator, every one of our U.S. senators from Colorado, as well as our representatives from Colorado, and just tell them this phrase that John Caldera made up during the debate over Referendum C on our table here in Colorado. He made a bumper sticker called, it's the spending, stupid. So if we could just get that idea across, there is plenty of revenue. We are awash in revenue, $5 trillion in revenue, but they want to spend seven. So if they could just hold the line on that, hopefully even cut it, then we could certainly grow our way out of it. It's not too late.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, that's good to know. And what about Colorado? Are you watching Colorado at all? Because I really think that Colorado is at the tip of the spear with all the radical activists, extremists that now control the statehouse and the governor's mansion.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, the similar thing happened after we had a bipartisan deal in Colorado to do a Tabor timeout. And they just kept spending, and every year they kept spending more and more and more and more. What's called real per capita spending, which was supposed to be frozen under Tabor, has maybe doubled in the last 20 years. So there's just the shreds of it that are left there is what's keeping us from being California. But it's bad. It's not just the spending people have to think of. It's much more than the top line budget. It's the actual programs. And as you mentioned, the programs are the poison here. What is it being spent on? For the federal government, bridge to nowhere. For Colorado, money for roads that never gets fixed. In the federal budget, that's $50 million for condoms in Gaza. I did some demographic math on that. It turns out to be about 450 condoms for every adult male in Gaza. That's what our tax money is paying for. Just one tiny example of this massive out of control. And there's examples of that all throughout the state budget as well, of course.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay, you bring up something that I've been watching, and that is government grants, if you will. I'd seen that headline regarding $50 million for condoms in Gaza, but I thought that can't be real. But you sourced that. That's true?
SPEAKER 04 :
Yes. Yes, it is. And I looked up the Gaza population, and I got the adult population out of that, and then cut that in half the number of adult males. And it's estimated about $90 per adult male. And I could go on Amazon. And retail, buy a box of 50 condoms for $10. So it's just those people are busy, I guess. I don't know what. Wow.
SPEAKER 10 :
So this is something that I think that, and as one of our listeners, Jenny, has said, that government grant money to local, county, and state governments, as well as all of these interested parties, is basically like crack cocaine to a An addict. And and we need to I think we need to stop all of these grant programs. And in fact, we've had a lot of conversations. I'm going to talk about it the next segment regarding these different programs. quote unquote, religious organizations that have received so much money and facilitated illegal immigration into our country. And certainly we've heard about Catholic charities. But I had I had been on the board of Lutheran Family Services back in the 90s, late 90s, early 2000s. And I was connecting the dots. I couldn't quite figure it. I thought it was a charity and we were welcoming Christians in that had been persecuted. But then I realized that it wasn't that was not necessarily the case. There was government money involved in it. And one of my listeners sent this over that LIRS, that's the Lutheran Immigration and Refugee Services. received over $367 million to facilitate these people coming into our country illegally. And so we've got to quit doing all this grant money, because a lot of this grant money is being used to push ideological agendas that doesn't have Americans' best interests in mind. What's your thoughts on that?
SPEAKER 04 :
Yes, it's true. Those grants, we are paying for our own destruction. I believe Catholic Charities is even worse than Lutheran. I think there's about $2 billion of federal grants, maybe more, and that is being spent on child trafficking. So I don't donate to my church anymore. I'm a Catholic and I don't donate at all because I don't want one penny of that going to support child trafficking across the border.
SPEAKER 10 :
Right, because there's over 300,000 children that have come across the border, and they're missing, and that's unconscionable, Dr. Prentice. Yes, ma'am. Yes. So wrap this up, then, on what to do exactly, and where can people find you?
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay. They can't find me because I'm in retirement. Okay. The independence Institute would have a link to my, to my email address. If you look up the what's called the senior fellows there. So that's one way probably email would be the best way to reach me, but I don't do social media. I actually quit it about 15 years ago. I got off, off of everything from Facebook to Twitter and,
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay. Well, thank you for sharing this with us. And so, again, the takeaways, how we can address this spending and get us back in a healthy financial standpoint. Whoops, Dr. Prentice, I missed that. So just wrap this up. What's the conclusion?
SPEAKER 04 :
The conclusion is we have to do something now. It's not too late, but it's very close to too late. We've got to just stop the spending. Just stop it. Cut the waste, fraud, and abuse, and from those savings, put it into programs that have to grow like Social Security and Medicare a little bit. But there is plenty of money. There is no lack of money in the federal government if they would just care about it. So I think the most important thing is to get the senators and legislators' attention on this.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay. Dr. Paul Prentice, thank you so much. And we must stop the spending and we can do this and get our economy going. All those things will help significantly. This all happens because of our sponsors. And one of those great sponsors is John Boson with Boson Law. And if you've been injured, be sure to reach out to them as soon as possible.
SPEAKER 17 :
Boson Law is a local law firm dedicated to helping injured individuals in Denver and the surrounding areas fight for the justice they deserve. Boson Law focuses on personalized representation tailored to your unique situation with one-on-one attention and counsel and consistent communication. Boson Law personal injury attorneys have extensive trial experience and have successfully represented clients against the interests of powerful corporations, manufacturers, insurance companies, and government agencies. Contact Boson Law at 303-999-9999 for a complimentary in-person consultation. Again, that number is 303-999-9999. Call now at 303-999-9999.
SPEAKER 15 :
All of Kim's sponsors are an inclusive partnership with Kim and are not affiliated with or in partnership with KLZ or Crawford Broadcasting. If you would like to support the work of The Kim Munson Show and grow your business, contact Kim at her website, kimmunson.com. That's kimmunson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com.
SPEAKER 16 :
Franktown Firearms and Shooting Range has everything you need to be fully trained with your firearm. They have multiple levels of training, including pistol, rifle, and shotgun that will make you feel better, faster, and safer no matter what your skill level. Classes are taught in a group setting, or you can schedule one-on-one instruction from the qualified instructors at Franktown Firearms. Learn from our seasoned instructors, including veterans of law enforcement and military, SWAT, and special forces. so you can trust that the training they give you is second to none. Franktown also makes obtaining your concealed carry permit convenient and will ensure you have all you need to get your permit quickly and safely. The staff prides themselves on friendliness, and you will feel comfortable and in capable hands. And Franktown is always where friends are made. So if you're ready to take your shooting skills to the next level with friendly, qualified staff, contact Franktown Firearms on the klzradio.com advertisers page.
SPEAKER 10 :
And welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And this came in from Dave. He says, I was Doge before Doge was cool working a project that saved $25 million a year in perpetuity. And it affected all Air Force Space Command bases, including Thule in Greenland. And savings can easily be found but are difficult to implement. And another listener, Mark, said this. Yes, departments of defense and justice are all we need. All others are unconstitutional. And OK, this is government wage and price controls never work in the long run. Markets are stronger than governments. There is a piece of legislation here in Colorado that. I've got to find that number, and I can't remember if that is for hearing this week, that is wanting to institute price controls, I think, in grocery stores. And that will lead to shortages. And so we've got to keep an eye on that. Let's see here. Oh. In response to Dr. Piper, the reason that churches are against deportation is because I bet their NGO and are getting money from the government. And he I think that is correct. And Jenny said this regarding. Pastor Boudet, who in her in her prayer at the National Cathedral, really was very disrespectful to Donald Trump and to J.D. Vance. And Jenny normally is great about sourcing all this stuff. She said that Pastor Boudet's diocese received fifty three million dollars in So that's just how compassionate that is. Let's see how, as Dr. Piper had said, are these people willing to not lock their doors? Are they willing to have people just come in and take food out of their refrigerator? Are they willing to put people into their extra bedrooms in their homes? And I would say probably the answer is no. And just as Dr. Piper said regarding the Pope, how about taking down the wall around the Vatican and getting rid of the Swiss Guard? I think that that's really a good point. And so what it is, is they're very hypocritical. They're not using their own money for the, in air quotes, sojourner. They want to have these government programs that they're making a lot of money off of. Okay, this is interesting. It says, if we actually had term limits, we might have more politicians willing to spend less of our money and more actually care about a balanced budget. I do not believe we have had a balanced budget since the 90s. I don't know when was the last time that we had a balanced budget. But my concern is, is if we do term limits on politicians and don't do term limits on bureaucrats, that that will only increase the power of bureaucrats. So we really need to address both at the same time. Ideally, the founders thought that we would address term limits at the ballot box. But as we see people that are incumbents continue to get elected and reelected, and I think a lot of it's because we've gotten a little bit lazy as on our civic duty of knowing what is right. happening down of course i say that happening down at the state house which they are flooding the zone at the colorado state house right now when we talked with representative kindergraf in the first hour there were just under 300 bills that have been uh introduced here in colorado and as he said it is a bill mill and they're just going through and going through and uh Here, we're at 268 Colorado bills that have been introduced so far. There is no way that our legislators can have the time to read all those bills, to think about the consequences of what that would mean for the future. And so we here in Colorado are at the tip of the spear of all this craziness that's going on. And that's why I really would recommend that you join the Colorado Union of Taxpayers at coloradotaxpayer.org. and have an understanding of what is happening down at the State House, and then you can take action on these different items as well. And a couple of things, I wanted to make sure I mentioned the USMC Memorial Foundation, which they are raising the money for the remodel at the Marine Memorial. and remembering and honoring those that have given their lives, have been willing to give their lives for our freedom. And that website is usmcmemorialfoundation.org, usmcmemorialfoundation.org. And then also the Center for American Values is going to have a great event on the 12th of February, which is right around the corner. Andrew Dix, co-founder of the Center for American Values, will be presenting regarding Greenland. which is the real Cold War. So be sure and check that out and let them know if you're planning on attending. And I don't it doesn't cost anything, but they do want to want to know what if you're attending so that they can plan on that. And so let's see. Richard said this last time we had a balanced budget was Newt Gingrich and Bill Clinton. So thank you for the clarification on that. And he also said eight months of severance pay to federal workers that many of them don't work anyhow. It's plenty of time to make adjustments. I'll just paraphrase that. Let's see. Text line. Regarding these, well, I just can't believe $50 million for condoms in Gaza. So somebody made a lot of money on that. Some NGO probably made a whole bunch of money on that. And this wasteful spending is just, we've got to get this under control. So we've got Ron on the line. We've got about a minute. Ron, what is on your radar?
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, Kel. The stuff that they're doing with this immigration, I've told you about the art of war. What they're trying to do is they're trying to get us to fight on numerous fronts. So they'll have us fight with the people here. If anything should happen, we'd have to fight inside. And then you'd have to fight China, and then you'd have to fight the Arab countries or whoever or what other countries that they have in. So we'd have to fight in numerous fronts. And then they're going to have – and they use these, you say, death by 1,000 cuts. That's why they keep doing these bills to flood it, to keep you occupied so you can't focus on the main problems.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, I think that's an excellent point. And it is really it is like whack a mole as we are watching all of this legislation. And it is it's really it's really difficult to do so. So, Ron, I think I've really thought a lot about this and elections really do matter. And we we we have a lot of work to do still regarding elections here in Colorado. Granted, it sounds like Trump is going to do something, but we've got to get our own house in order. And I'm just asking for guidance from the good Lord on what to do as our next step on that. So, Ron, thank you. We're out of time. But my friends, W. Clement Stone said this. He said, aim for the moon. If you miss, you may hit a star. And so today, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals, and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you, and God bless America.
SPEAKER 08 :
Through the mountains climbing, twisting, turning further from my home. I don't want no one to cry, but tell them if I don't survive, I was born.
SPEAKER 13 :
The views and opinions expressed on KLZ 560 are those of the speaker, commentators, hosts, their guests, and callers. They are not necessarily the views and opinions of Crawford Broadcasting or KLZ management, employees, associates, or advertisers. KLZ 560 is a Crawford Broadcasting God and country station.
Welcome to the America's Veterans Stories podcast. Kim Monson is your host. Korean War Veteran John Ryff joined the Marines because he was working in the factories in northern New Jersey and did not see much future there. He was just seventeen. We are re-broadcasting an interview with Ryff. He shares his story about one of the three most famous Marine battles, the Chosin Reservoir. Ryff also shares his perspective on political and military leadership at the time. Ultimately bombardment from the USS New Jersey gave him battle cover. _________________________________________________ Copyright 2023: America's Veteran's Stories Visit us at www.americasveteransstories.com America's Veteran's Stories airs on KLZ Radio every Sunday You can listen to the live stream by going to www.klzradio.com
SPEAKER 09 :
World War II, Korea, Vietnam, the Gulf War, Afghanistan, and our other wars and conflicts. America's fighting men and women strapped on their boots and picked up their guns to fight tyranny and stand for liberty. We must never forget them. Welcome to America's Veteran Stories with Kim Munson. These stories will touch your heart, inspire you, and give you courage. We stand on the shoulders of giants. Here's Kim Munson.
SPEAKER 06 :
And welcome to America's Veterans Stories with Kim Munson. This show began because of a trip that I took in 2016 with a group that accompanied four D-Day veterans to Normandy, France, for the 73rd anniversary of the D-Day landings there. And returned stateside realizing each... Story is unique and important. It needs to be heard. It needs to be recorded. It needs to be archived. And hence, America's Veterans Stories is our show to do that. I am so honored to have on the line with me John Riff. And he is a veteran, a Marine veteran, and he served during the Korean War. John, welcome to the show.
SPEAKER 11 :
I'm pleased to be here.
SPEAKER 06 :
So let's start at the beginning. Where did you grow up, John?
SPEAKER 11 :
In northern New Jersey.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay. And what year were you born?
SPEAKER 1 :
1932.
SPEAKER 06 :
1932. So you were a kid during World War II. What do you recall about World War II?
SPEAKER 11 :
Oh, well, I remember being in the scaffolding. for the veterans, for the soldiers, and buying savings stamps so we could get savings bonds, and many of our relatives going off to war. I remember all of that. And thank God they came back.
SPEAKER 06 :
And during that time, do you remember any rationing or anything like that during the war? No.
SPEAKER 11 :
Do you know what a Mounds bar is?
SPEAKER 06 :
No.
SPEAKER 11 :
It's a candy bar.
SPEAKER 06 :
Oh, yeah. Okay. I'm sorry. Yeah, a Mounds bar. Yes, I do know what that is.
SPEAKER 11 :
They might as well have been made of gold, because you had to have a special storekeeper stock them under the counter, and he would help save you one. But sugar products like that and meat, shoes, shoes were cardboard. Gasoline, everything, rubber, very hard to get. You just made do with used stuff.
SPEAKER 06 :
My gosh, when we see the plenty that we have in 2021 America, it's absolutely mind-boggling that we don't just sit down and say thank you for these blessings.
SPEAKER 11 :
Indeed.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay, so you go through the war and you join the Marines. Tell us why you joined the Marines and when did you join the Marines?
SPEAKER 11 :
I joined the Marines in late 1950s. And the reason I joined was, can I be honest?
SPEAKER 06 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 11 :
To get out of northern New Jersey.
SPEAKER 06 :
We won't tell anybody in northern New Jersey that you said that, okay?
SPEAKER 11 :
I ended up working on a loading dock or something. It was just a small industry, but there was no future. And there was no money for college, so this was a way out.
SPEAKER 06 :
Let's see. And so that was 1950. So you were probably, what, 18 years old?
SPEAKER 11 :
I was 17, actually, when I joined, but I did turn 18.
SPEAKER 06 :
Did your parents have to sign for you to join at the age of 17?
SPEAKER 11 :
I forgot.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay, okay.
SPEAKER 11 :
You can't buy drift.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay, I got it. Okay, 17 years old, and you are a Marine. And boot camp was no cakewalk, was it?
SPEAKER 11 :
No, you've heard that story over and over again. You don't forget that. It's sort of embedded in the marrow of your bones. And every Marine who has been to boot camp kind of smiles when he meets another one because they know. They know what it was like.
SPEAKER 06 :
I've heard that it's almost breaking down to then rebuild as a Marine. And it takes a tremendous amount of discipline, mental fortitude, and, of course, physical stamina as well.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yes, all of those. If you don't have it, don't join it. because you're going to have to put up with a lot of frustrations until they get you straightened out.
SPEAKER 06 :
What about being a Marine through your whole life? I've got to imagine every day that experience comes into play, correct?
SPEAKER 11 :
Correct. I have participated and been active in both the American Legion and especially the VFW until I got quite a bit older. But I used to help out at the VFW. I had most of the offices at one point or another. So I tried to do my share.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay, so 1950, the Korean War. Here, we've just come through a world war, and I think probably Americans are weary. My understanding is that we were reducing the military. So what about those years between 1945 and 1950? That was a scandal.
SPEAKER 11 :
the people who were fired were not fired soon enough. And I hate to say that, but I thought about it and read about it a lot. And there were powerful forces in Washington, and that's going back before the war, who wanted to fold the Marine Corps into the Army and leave the actual Marine Corps just sort of a... What would I call it?
SPEAKER 06 :
Maybe a shell?
SPEAKER 11 :
More like a... Sea duty or embassy duty. That's what I'm thinking.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 11 :
They just show the flag. And that is the main part of the Marine Corps. You've probably heard this many times. It is the Fleet Marine Force. That sounds strange. Why would we have a different part of the Marine Corps with a different name? The Fleet Marine Corps is the flying arm of the Marine Corps. When you send out Marines to fight, they will come from the Fleet Marine Corps, either in North Carolina or California or even Okinawa. So this was the part that was really taken down very secretively. The Fleet Marine Corps, especially the part that MacArthur wanted for the Korean War, He asked, tell me if I'm boring you.
SPEAKER 06 :
No, I find this fascinating.
SPEAKER 11 :
MacArthur was called into Truman's office right after the invasion from the North. And Truman asked him what he needed to stem the tide. And MacArthur said, the 1st Marine Division, which would be part of the Fleet Marine Force. And Truman said... You've got it. And that was the biggest canard, I think, of the entire five years from 45 to 50, because Truman spent every waking moment trying to cut the budget for the Marine Corps. And he was, when the invasion took place, I don't have my numbers in front of me, but the Marine budget for 49, I believe, was $1,300. Billions? Okay. Could be. And Truman had cut it. This is for the air wings, too, and several divisions. He cut it to, on paper, to $11 billion. And that wouldn't have been able to sustain the Corps with such small funds. So I never forgave any of these people. Truman made a lot of courageous decisions. We all know that. But he had some sort of animosity, really strong, toward the Army and the Marine Corps. And I think it came from World War I. He was the artillery officer in the... for young news battle which was very bloody and kind of wasteful and he saw all this so i give him some credit that he he saw it and he didn't like what he saw but he didn't have to take it out on the marine corps so anyway he he really had no use for the marine corps probably not so much for the navy either the only thing that was uh pressing, and it looked like it would win the day, would be a separate Air Corps. That was going along smoothly in the late 40s. But a number of Marine officers started to testify against this obvious push to fold the Marine Corps into the Army, at least the fighting arm, and The reason the Marines had no use for this idea, and I will tell you, and I think it's true, is the Army never, never liked amphibious warfare. And they didn't train their people. I mean, they trained them for Normandy, but generally they were not in favor of any kind of amphibious assault. And this was the Marines' bread and butter. So it's all added up to this hostility against the Marine Corps. Maybe the Coast Guard, too. No, probably not. But, see, they all get their sources from the Navy, Coast Guard and the Marines. So they have to go around begging every time the budgets are written.
SPEAKER 06 :
Fascinating. And in the Pacific during World War II, it was the Marines that did do all those amphibious landings, right?
SPEAKER 11 :
Yes. They had, at the end of the war, when the final assault was made on Okinawa, there were three Marine divisions out of what they had built to six Marine divisions. They were very strong at the end of the war.
SPEAKER 06 :
And of all the World War II veterans that I've interviewed, I've never interviewed a Marine that was in the European theater. So it was pretty limited in World War II with the Marines over in Europe. Yes?
SPEAKER 11 :
Probably just embassy duty. And maybe... Classified work. I don't know that.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay. Okay. And, boy, I did not know all of this. So I'm certainly learning a lot on this. John, we have just a couple of minutes left. I think just at the very beginning when you got into the Marine Corps, is there any story or anything that you'd like to leave with our listeners before we go to break? Sure.
SPEAKER 11 :
Nothing I can repeat over the air. A couple of stories that I'm not going to tell you.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 11 :
I'll think about that as we go along.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay. So with that, then, I just want to make sure that I get the timeline right. You were born in 1932. You joined the Marines in 1950 at the age of 17. And where did you go to boot camp at?
SPEAKER 11 :
Parris Island. Okay.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 11 :
We all went to Parris Island from the New York area, and that was something you had to behold. I'll tell you why. The drill instructors were all Southerners, and they had been on Guadalcanal and Tarawa, and they were really tough guys.
SPEAKER 03 :
Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER 11 :
And they hated the New Yorkers. Oh, dear. Gangsters, thieves. Some people slept with their bayonets under their pillows. Yeah. They didn't know what to make of us, but most of us were okay.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay. Yeah, and to have those guys, I mean, they had to be really tough guys. I've learned enough about Guadalcanal and Tarawa to know that as well. So we're going to go to break. This is Kim Munson with America's Veteran Stories. I'm talking with Korean Marine veteran John Riff. And before we go to break, though, I have some great sponsors. And for both of my shows and the one of them is Hooters restaurants. They have five locations. Let's see. It's Loveland, Westminster, Aurora, Lone Tree and Colorado Springs. And they have all kinds of specials. And you can go to my website, Kim Munson. That's M-O-N-S-O-N dot com and click on the sponsors tab. I highly recommend each and every one of them. and click on the Hooters tab, and they will get all of their specials. But they have lunch specials, kids eat free on Saturdays, happy hour specials. So be sure and check that out. So this is Kim Munson. I'm talking with John Riff, and we'll be right back.
SPEAKER 05 :
Remax Realtor Karen Levine helps bring to life the individual stories of our servicemen and women. With her sponsorship of America's Veteran Stories with Kim Munson, Karen honors the sacrifices of our military and is grateful for our freedom. As a member of the National Association of Realtors Board of Directors, Karen works to protect private property rights for all of us. Karen has a heart for our active duty military and veterans and is honored to help you buy or sell your home. Call Karen Levine at 303-877-7516 to help you navigate buying or selling your home. That's 303-877-7516.
SPEAKER 04 :
All of Kim's sponsors are an inclusive partnership with Kim and are not affiliated with or in partnership with KLZ or Crawford Broadcasting. If you would like to support the work of The Kim Munson Show and grow your business, contact Kim at her website, kimmunson.com. That's Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com.
SPEAKER 06 :
Welcome back to America's Veteran Stories with Kim Munson. Be sure and check out our website. That is AmericasVeteranStories.com. So honored to have on the line with me a Marine veteran, Korean War veteran, and that is John Riff. John, fascinating, the history that you gave us in the first segment. Let's talk about you get out of boot camp, Parris Island. What happens after that? Where do you go?
SPEAKER 11 :
We went about 10 miles from Parris Island to, I guess— Well, we went to, there was a airfield nearby. It might have been part of the Marine airfield, but they were lined up about six planes of these, well, they were just two engine planes then. They loaded us all on these planes, and we went to California that day, no fooling around. And they more or less said, you're in the infantry. And when you graduate from, it's different now, I'm sure, When you graduate from boot camp and you do well and behave yourself, you can often get a nice school or something and increase your chances of promotion. But at this time, the drill instructor at the end of training had a list of members of our platoon, and he just started reading down Adams Infantry, Jones Infantry, Baker Infantry. They just went straight down the list. And they finally got to one guy who was, we called him Doc. He'd had three years at Notre Dame in pre-med. And he got, I think his name was something like McAvoy. He got the McAvoy Infantry. And you could hear the people sucking air.
SPEAKER 06 :
That meant everybody was going to infantry about, right?
SPEAKER 11 :
Here's the great part, the great line. The drill instructor said, we need good men in the infantry, too.
SPEAKER 06 :
Wow.
SPEAKER 11 :
That summed it up.
SPEAKER 06 :
Wow.
SPEAKER 11 :
Okay, so— We flew out to an air base, which is not there anymore, called El Toro, about— 40 miles from Camp Pendleton, down near Oceanside, all the way to San Diego. And then we started what I laughingly refer to as advanced infantry training. We didn't have any real equipment to learn on. I mean, you might have an old machine gun that if you did try to fire it, it would jam. But we walked a lot, and we learned a few things. And then one day, Friday afternoon, I don't know how many weeks we were in, now that war had started, the commanding officer called us together and said, your training is over. You're going to Korea right now.
SPEAKER 03 :
Oh, my gosh.
SPEAKER 11 :
We got down to the main side of Camp Pendleton, took care of all our paperwork and so forth. And I guess by Monday we were loading the ships. So I'd say our training was kind of half-baked. Didn't matter. You'll find out. If you make a mistake in combat, you'll hear about it right away.
SPEAKER 06 :
Right. Do you feel your training, your basic training, prepared you for Korea?
SPEAKER 11 :
Paris Island did. Yeah. Absolutely. The infantry training was cut short.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay. Because they needed to get men over there, huh?
SPEAKER 11 :
Oh, yeah. Well, I have another story if you're ready for it.
SPEAKER 06 :
Ready for it.
SPEAKER 11 :
the Marine Corps, he first started by what they called hollowing out. The Marine Corps, at least in the World War II, the 50s and 40s, is built on what's called a triangular system. Three squads to a platoon, three platoons to a company, three companies to a battalion, so on and so on up the line. So that's how they were designed, and they planned all their tactics with those men. Well, if you look at the Marine organization in 1950, there was no middle unit. There were two squads in every platoon, two platoons in every company. It had really been cut. And maybe nobody was checking. Maybe nobody cared. I don't know. But that's a fact. Because the number of Marines in World War II went up to 300,000. And by the time of Korea, the total number of—well, I'm just talking about the Fleet Marine Corps. The total number of fighting Marines was about 27,000.
SPEAKER 06 :
Oh, my gosh.
SPEAKER 11 :
Plus coasts, plus sea duty, plus whatever. So they were empty. When they filled out the first Marine division finally in Korea, it probably took them six months or more, they had stripped the West Coast. There was nobody left. And that's the only way they could get Marines, take them out of the offices, take them out of the truck repairs, whatever, and put them in the infantry. So it was really... And the man... And you can look this up. The man who was responsible for this, aside from Harry Truman, was named Louis Johnson. And he was just so destructive. And the Marines, they were trying to actually get a bill passed to redesign the Defense Department. And part of that bill was to just eliminate most of the Marine Corps and put it in the Army. And the Marines were trying to get their point across that this is a different type of military, their amphibious skills. And it took, I think, about three or four, I could name, World War II colonels, the most promising colonels of the Marine Corps coming out of World War II, resigned their commissions. So they could go to Congress and testify what a bad idea this was. And, of course, they ruined their careers. And one of those was named Carlson. You may have heard of Carlson's Raiders.
SPEAKER 03 :
I have.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, he resigned his commission. They wouldn't accept it, but they finally did. And then he could speak his mind. And somehow, because there were enough veterans in Congress... they were able to hold on and keep the Marine Corps. That was the sum total of what happened. And Truman fired Louis Johnson, finally.
SPEAKER 06 :
Now, they had to resign their commissions because they were not supposed to make political comments. Is that correct?
SPEAKER 11 :
I believe that was the rule, similar to that. Although, I don't know how Ollie North... could wear his uniform when he was testifying. But that's another question.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay. Rather remarkable. I did not know about any of this. And all of this is occurring at the same time we have Marines that are going to Korea, putting their lives on the line. Am I getting that timeline correct, John?
SPEAKER 11 :
Yes. Well, they were going over a ship, Ship load or two, a ship load or two every month when they started rotating out. They tried to get everybody rotated out within 12 or 16 months. So there were always new blood coming in, and that was okay. You had to teach them something, but they were willing to learn, and we did the job.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay. And you boarded the ship to go to Korea from the San Diego area, yes?
SPEAKER 11 :
Yes. It was a civilian, semi-civilian military transport. I think they were old Liberty ships. It was called the USMTS, something like that, USMTS MiGs. MiGs was a big Army general. And they just stuffed us on there. I think there were about 3,000 And I'll tell you, you want an interesting story?
SPEAKER 06 :
I do. I tell you what, let's do, let's go to break, John. And when we come back, let's begin with that particular story. This is Kim Munson with America's Veteran Stories. I am talking with Marine veteran, Korean War veteran, John Riff. And we're getting to the point where he's on his way to Korea. And when we come back, we'll continue with that story. Before we do that, though, I wanted to have a little conversation with Lorne Levy, who is another one of our great sponsors of both of the shows. Lauren Levy, welcome to the show.
SPEAKER 10 :
Hey, thanks for having me, Kim.
SPEAKER 06 :
Each and every one of these stories are different, and Lauren, I so appreciate you in bringing these stories to the air.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, it's my pleasure. It seems like the least we can do for people that have fought and sometimes, you know, served the ultimate sacrifice, but we want to help the ones that have served and are now, you know, going back into society, and, you know, we want to help them as much as humanly possible.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, and I think, Lorne, knowing our history is so important. That's why getting these stories, archiving them, broadcasting them, sharing them, it's history. And we can't take that for granted, Lorne.
SPEAKER 10 :
I agree. I don't know how they teach this stuff in high school anymore, but we studied it extensively. And if we can help any of these folks, it sure would be good to do it.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, and one of the ways to do that is to know their stories. Now, Lorne Levy, over in your business, in the mortgage arena, there are some special things for veterans and military personnel. And during this time of a really hot real estate market, there's things that people can do as veterans and military personnel to get into a home. How can you help them?
SPEAKER 10 :
Absolutely. So the VA loan is... I've said this to you many times in the past. The VA loan is one of the best benefits the government offers. They really did it right, and it allows active duty or veterans to purchase homes with 0% down, which is huge in this market, especially with the way prices are going. They also can refinance their home at an extremely low rate and take all the equity out of their home if they need cash for any reason. The normal loan only goes up to 80%. If you take cash out, the VA will let you take all the money out. And they don't have mortgage insurance when you go over 80%. There's just so many good features to the VA loan in addition to rates being lower than normal conforming loans. It's such a good feature and something available to active duty and past military folks.
SPEAKER 06 :
Lauren Levy, if people want more information about that, how can they reach you?
SPEAKER 10 :
The best way is to just call the office at 303-880-8881.
SPEAKER 06 :
Again, that number is 303-880-8881. And, Lorne Levy, you are a valued partner of both America's Veterans Stories and The Kim Munson Show. Thank you so much.
SPEAKER 10 :
My pleasure. Thanks for having me, Kim.
SPEAKER 01 :
In these tumultuous times, it is necessary that we each have a freedom library to know and understand our history. Bury Him! A Memoir of the Vietnam War by Captain Doug Chamberlain is a must for your personal library. In this honest and gripping memoir, Captain Chamberlain recounts the chilling events that took place during his command of a company of young Marines at the height of the Vietnam War. Chamberlain painfully recalls the unspeakable order he and his Marines were forced to obey and the cover-up which followed. Purchase the book at marinedougchamberlain.com. That's marinedougchamberlain.com so that you gain perspective on this time in our history.
SPEAKER 03 :
God bless us.
SPEAKER 06 :
And welcome back to America's Veteran Stories with Kim Munson. I am Kim Munson. And check out our website. That is AmericasVeteranStories.com. So honored to be talking with John Riff, a Korean War veteran, a Marine veteran. And we are now he's headed to Korea. And before we went to break, John, you had another story to share with us.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yes, this one had an effect on my life. Because, as I told you, I just came out of northern New Jersey, factory-cut towns, and we were loaded on the ship, and we were just kind of packed in mostly the fantail, the back of the ship, the round part. That's where they'd have the movies. Or we'd go down in the hold, which was sweltering, and get a meal. And I'm thinking... Boy, this is really uncomfortable. Some of us were just... You know what a hatch is on a ship? It's the black cover?
SPEAKER 03 :
Right.
SPEAKER 11 :
We were sleeping on the hatches just to get out of that heat. And I'm thinking, there's got to be a better way to do this. You could look down. Now, the center of the ship had cabins. And those were for officers. And if you look very carefully... kind of tilt your head and look down, you'd see that there were two officers to each cabin with white sheets and pillows. Now, my point is, I asked myself, how do I get there? And I thought, there's only one answer. You've got to go to college because education is really holding you up. So that was a lesson well learned.
SPEAKER 06 :
Wow. So what time of year then was this that you were headed to Korea, where it was so hot?
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, Korea, that would be the summer, any summer. Okay. They always talk about the cold, but it was sweltering. They lost during the early stages of the fight around what was called the Pusan perimeter. The heat was knocking out as many soldiers and Marines as the enemy. It was really bad. And there was nothing anybody could do about it. It was do or die.
SPEAKER 06 :
And how long did the trip take to get from San Diego to Korea?
SPEAKER 11 :
Two weeks each way.
SPEAKER 06 :
Did you get seasick at all? Okay. Okay. Where and when did you arrive in Korea then?
SPEAKER 11 :
First we docked in Japan. at a place called Yokosuka. It's a big naval base. And I thought that was a mistake, because they gave each of us $20 and told us to come back that night. And I thought, you're not going to see these guys anymore. But they did come back, and we came back, and we went around and bought some high-priced liquor that the black market was selling. But that was, then we went from Yokosuka around the bottom and over to Pusan. I don't think we stopped in Kobe. I don't remember.
SPEAKER 06 :
And so would that be, what, September-ish or so in, what, 51?
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, it was hot.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay. Definitely hot. Okay. Okay. You're at Korea now. You're at Pusan. What happens then?
SPEAKER 11 :
Oh, then they break us out to our different units. I have a picture I can show you. They were flying us up to the front. They needed people so badly. And they just cut some strips out of the ground, and they got together a bunch of planes, and they took us right from where we were serviced in Pusan to get assigned, loaded us on the planes, and right up its coast, you could hear the artillery where those planes were landing. And they got us to our units in no time. And... So then we got distributed. I went to a certain company, and most of the infantry went to Company A or Company B. My company was anti-tank. And... We were all part of the 7th Marines, which is an embarrassment too. But it goes back to that, if I can say this, it goes back to that earlier period when there was no 7th Marines because they had stripped the Marine Corps of the 7th Marines. Now, you can say, how can you do that? Seventh Marines are an organic part of the Marines. Yes, they are. And every time they count, they count the Seventh Marines as part of the Marine Corps. Now, the dirty secret is, and this would be when they reduced the size of the Marine Corps after World War II, the dirty secret is the Seventh Marines became the Marine Reserve in the old little towns around the country. So it was there, but they were not in any fighting shape. And they had to get all those Marines, reserve Marines, back together and back to California to build up the 7th Marines. What do you think of that?
SPEAKER 06 :
So these are guys that they thought that they were, were they reserves? They were, a lot of them were World War II veterans.
SPEAKER 11 :
knew what the Marines were like, decided they'd get a check every month. So they joined the reserves. It was easy. Little did they know that they'd be called back.
SPEAKER 06 :
Right, and by this time, probably a lot of them married, had families.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, more or less. Ooh, they were angry. Huh. So the Inchon Landing, this is probably not known either, the Inchon Landing came... Oh, gosh, I don't remember. Say September 30th. The 7th Marines didn't even get to Inchon for two more weeks. They were having such trouble getting everybody over there. So the division only had two regiments for that invasion of Inchon and up to Seoul. And the 7th Marines finally made it. I swear we were behind all the time.
SPEAKER 06 :
I'm trying to have your life on the line like that and to be frustrated with the leadership, your young kid. I mean, what was going through your mind at that time, John?
SPEAKER 11 :
Oh, that's easy. If you're a private PFC... Your world is 500 meters in every direction. That's it. You don't know anything else. You don't know where you are. Are you over the 38th parallel, under it? You don't know. They just tell you when to saddle up and get moving. Okay. And that's just as well. And then you can get good books and read about it.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay. Well, tell us about the Inchon Landing.
SPEAKER 11 :
That was it. That was a disaster waiting to happen. I think MacArthur probably put the odds at 5,001 because they had these long tides. The tides went way out. And they exposed these mud beaches. And so they had to get these landing craft into the actual beach to get up on land. well if if you didn't go at the right time all you do is drive your little landing boat into the mud so they had to wait till evening before landing the main force and guess what everybody in the in the world knew what was going on by then luckily the koreans didn't have too much But still, it was no surprise. And then if they could get their boats in over the mud, then there was what's called a seawall. And you had to climb that might be 12 or 14 feet. I guess keep the tides out or something. And the poor guys on those ships, it was bad enough on the troop ships, but they put them to work making the ladders out of spare lumber from the ships. So when they went into the landing mode, not only did they have landing boats, they had these, what would I call them, ladders that were just sort of hastily put together. And they had to use those to get up over the seawall. Well, I think there were a lot of casualties right there.
SPEAKER 06 :
Was it heavily fortified? I mean, it was fortified, obviously. But now I'm recalling that the tides were a really big deal. And there was misjudgment on the tides that created real challenges, correct?
SPEAKER 11 :
Right. And there was a small island off to the side. And I think they had to take that first because you would be looking right down the Marines' throat if you didn't have that island subdued. So that was a separate unit. And I don't know who that was, but it wasn't too hard. And then the invasion went ahead pretty smoothly.
SPEAKER 06 :
And what was the purpose? And I'm, again, I'm doing this from memory. This was, I'm looking at this, September 1950. But wasn't Incheon on the western side of Korea? And then once that was accomplished, didn't they bring you back around for Chosen? Or what happened exactly?
SPEAKER 11 :
That's what happened. They... They used the Marines. They finally got the 7th Marines, and they helped the fighting in Seoul. They took the city. But at that point, they pulled the Marines out, and they were using army troops to push up toward the capital of North Korea. And they put these Marines back on ships again, sailed all the way around the bottom and up the top, and landed at a place called Wonsan. I think that's right. And then they started their march up to the Chosin.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay. So Inchon then is more on the eastern side, and then it went around and got up to Wonsan. And so where are you in all of this, John?
SPEAKER 11 :
Somewhere in the middle. Inchon is on the western coast.
SPEAKER 06 :
Oh, it is. Okay.
SPEAKER 11 :
And Wonsan is on the eastern.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 11 :
You have to go all the way around that peninsula and up again to get to Wonsan.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay. I had my directions mixed up then. And so where were you on Inchon?
SPEAKER 03 :
We weren't there yet. Okay.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay. And they got there two weeks later then. Okay. So Inchon, anything else that you want people to know about that?
SPEAKER 11 :
No, it was a hard fight. They didn't give up easily. But they did. They insisted the Marines take Seoul. Incheon wasn't too hard, but Seoul was hard. It was house to house. And then finally they got through Seoul and they had to cross a pretty big river right alongside called the Han River. Had to cross that too. And of course that was all blown up. So had to put in some new bridges. And then they started working their way north, and then they took the Marines out.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay. And then it was at that point then the Marines then are transported to Wonsan. Am I getting that correct?
SPEAKER 11 :
Right.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay. And you, were you part of the 7th? Yes, all the time. Okay. And you'd not arrive. You said that you guys arrived two weeks later after the Battle of Inchon started. So were you on any of that, or did you end up at Wonsan? I don't remember.
SPEAKER 11 :
I think we had something to do with that island that had to be taken, but it's kind of vague to me.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay. Okay. Well, I tell you what, let's go to break. This is absolutely fascinating. I'm talking with Korean Marine war veteran, and that is John Riff. And we're going to go to break. When we come back, we'll continue on with this very important conversation. Stay tuned.
SPEAKER 07 :
If you're 62 or older, a reverse mortgage could be a great tool regarding retirement and estate planning. It is essential to understand the process. Lorne Levy with Polygon Financial Group has nearly 20 years in the mortgage industry and has the experience to answer your questions. Lauren understands that each financial transaction is personal. If you'd like to explore your options on a reverse mortgage, remodel your home, buy a rental property or move, call Lauren Levy at 303-880-8881. Licensed in 49 states, Kim Monson highly recommends Lauren Levy for all your mortgage needs. Call Lauren at 303-880-8881.
SPEAKER 02 :
You'd like to get in touch with one of the sponsors of The Kim Munson Show, but you can't remember their phone contact or website information. Find a full list of advertising partners on Kim's website, kimmunson.com. That's Kim, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com.
SPEAKER 11 :
From the mountains to the prairies,
SPEAKER 06 :
Welcome back to America's Veterans Stories with Kim Munson. offer a 10 discount for our military our veterans our first responders so whether or not you're a chef or a collector or a sportsman castlegate knife and tool is the place for you more information at castlegate.com that's castlegate.com i am honored to have on the line with me john riff he is a maria marine korean war veteran and we're now getting to the point of where you're you're Going to be getting into battle now, John. But just clarification, General Douglas MacArthur was the commander of the American forces during the war, correct?
SPEAKER 11 :
Correct.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay. And in between breaks, you were mentioning, I think, your corps commander, who you knew a bit. Tell us about him.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, he would be directly under MacArthur. So he had a corps commander normally is responsible for three divisions to coordinate them and so forth. And the winter was coming, as you may remember, and there were signs, intelligence coming down through North Korea that there were Chinese coming across the Yalu River into North Korea. northern North Korea, and they were hiding out in these narrow valleys, and they couldn't be picked up very easily. So I don't know how good the intelligence was, but it was there. There were people warning, especially this General Almond. And he wanted to polish up his medals, I think. He said, I want to push through to the Yalu River, all the way up to China, and then we'll win. And he had no idea what he was up against, like 80,000 or 90,000 Chinese so-called volunteers. And when they hit that November, well, they hit all along the front, but I'm just thinking of the Marines. It was a good thing the Marine general, his name was Opie Smith, he said, let's just hold here. Let's not go any further. and we'll see what this intelligence looks like. And he was right. They were able to fortify themselves, and then they realized they were surrounded. There were so many Chinese. So they had to fight in a different direction. That's what happened.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay, so when he said, we're going to stop, was that at the Chosin Reservoir then?
SPEAKER 11 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 11 :
He more or less disobeyed that order from the general.
SPEAKER 06 :
And the general wanted to push on further to the north, is that correct?
SPEAKER 11 :
Correct.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay. Now, are you at the Chosen Reservoir, John?
SPEAKER 11 :
Yes. We were the 7th and the, I think it was the 5th. And then there was a circle. I can just visualize this. I wasn't privy to the maps or anything. And the third regiment of our division was outside the circle. And that was the first regiment, the first Marines. And they were trying to fight back in. And the 7th and 5th were trying to fight back out. Well, they finally succeeded, but it was pretty bad.
SPEAKER 06 :
And this is coming into November then, is that right? Yes.
SPEAKER 11 :
More closer to December.
SPEAKER 06 :
December, okay. In the circle, so are you, you're surrounded, is that right, by the North Koreans and the Chinese?
SPEAKER 11 :
That's a good way to visualize it. They were up in these mountains and ridges and valleys and all around, and there were so many of them that they could actually form a complete circumference.
SPEAKER 06 :
How did you guys get supplies?
SPEAKER 11 :
They could come in by plane. We had a strip, a dirt strip, and two engine planes could make it in. And ammunition was always short, always short. One of the things you would find out, I think, quickly, if you spoke to a machine gunner, is they have to fire their weapon every day, and not just one or two rounds. And that uses up a lot of ammunition.
SPEAKER 06 :
Tell us about the temperatures. Tell us about the cold.
SPEAKER 11 :
I never felt cold like that.
SPEAKER 1 :
I still remember it. It was awful.
SPEAKER 11 :
I mean, somebody waking you up to full guard duty and it's 20 below or something. Oh, pray that God will take you. I can't get up. But we did it.
SPEAKER 06 :
What kind of equipment did you have to try to stay warm?
SPEAKER 11 :
It was pretty good. We had parkers and we had our long johns. And let me think. I'll probably forget something. You had to wear a helmet and a cap. That helped. And the shoes were terrible. The shoes, the second winter, they finally got what are called, we call them Mickey Mouse boots. They were tall. They came up halfway up your shin. And they were kind of a white spongy material. And it was an excellent, excellent insulator. But the first winter, there was a lot of frostbite.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah. Did your feet get frostbitten?
SPEAKER 03 :
No.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay. Now, I'm looking at this. November 27, 1950, the Chinese forces surprised the Marine Corps. I recall hearing that they were so numerous when they made that attack. Do you recall that?
SPEAKER 11 :
No, our weapons were a little longer range. They were useful for road blocking. Our main weapon was called a recoilless rifle, 75 millimeter. And we had four of those. And they were excellent for just blocking roads and causing problems. And we also had on loan five tanks. But they were too snooty. They wouldn't let us around their tanks.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay. Tell us what you—oh, go ahead.
SPEAKER 11 :
They would tell me, and I can't guarantee it, they would tell me the best way to kill a tank is with another tank, not with a recoilless rifle.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay. And was the North Koreans well-supplied?
SPEAKER 11 :
Their clothing was pretty good. It was that, I don't know what you call it, something like ski jackets.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, something like ski jackets. They just didn't have good shoes. Okay. They would freeze where they were, and that was that. They were just dead the next day.
SPEAKER 06 :
Wow. Okay, well, tell us, let's see, I can't remember how long the battle was, but it was well over 30 days, wasn't it? I can't find that right now.
SPEAKER 11 :
I think it was more like, the intense part was two weeks.
SPEAKER 06 :
Two weeks, okay.
SPEAKER 11 :
We turned around, and there was only one road out, one road in. That was part of the problem. And there was a... I'll say a power station along that road and a bridge. I guess it was a stream under it or something. And the bridge was blown. So one of the fantastic engineering accomplishments, I'm aware of, I didn't see it, I saw the bridge, was the Army... with helicopters flew in, I think, four big steel plates. You see them on the highways? They dropped these plates right on the right spot, and the engineers adjusted them, and they put it all together, and they took the whole division out over that bridge. And what I think was kind of interesting historically was that General Almond, the Corps commander, He told the Marine commander, he said, we'll make sure that strip is open. We're going to fly your men out. This is not tenable. And General Smith said, no, you're not going to fly us out. We're coming out with everything. And they did. Their tanks, their trucks, their jeeps, everything came out.
SPEAKER 06 :
I did not know this, John. This is fascinating how you guys got out of there. You were surrounded. And so what was that battle like to try to get out of there?
SPEAKER 11 :
Hard to see because the first Marines coming up may have made the first breakthrough. Somebody got discouraged and they opened the road. I know that. And then you could move. And once they got the trucks and everything moving, we could take out the wounded and get going. And then it wasn't that. Once you got down about 20 or 30 miles, it was fairly safe. And we had air cover, great air cover, marine air cover.
SPEAKER 06 :
John, I've heard that the three most famous Marine battles, I think, is Belleau Wood in World War I and Iwo Jima in World War II and the Chosin Reservoir in the Korean War. And a lot of people don't know much about the Chosin Reservoir. We've got probably about three minutes left. What is it that you, if you were talking to a young person, which they are listening right now, what would you say to them about that particular battle?
SPEAKER 11 :
Pay attention to your intelligence. Too many cases in our history that intelligence was ignored rather than follow up. So pay attention to it and assume maybe it's right. And maybe you're in imminent danger. But here, in this case, they were. They could have easily been overrun. And some of the Army units were.
SPEAKER 06 :
And what was going through your mind as you were exiting the Chosen Reservoir? What was going through your mind?
SPEAKER 11 :
Getting a little warmer. Yeah. And down toward the harbor. That's all I remember.
SPEAKER 06 :
And then after that, where did you go?
SPEAKER 11 :
The division was relocated. What was left of it was all chewed up. relocated to a city about, I'll guess, 30 miles from Pusan called Mason. And then we had to get resupplied and get new men in and so forth. And then get back to work.
SPEAKER 1 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 06 :
And so did you see other battles as well?
SPEAKER 11 :
Oh, we went up to, after that mason, they got resupplied, the Marines moved up the east coast and actually crossed the 38th. You'll see, if you see a map of Korea, you'll see a little bit of, a little chunk of North Korea we took back and we kept it. And we were in there. It was quite cold there, too. It's mountainous. But the interesting thing, if I may, I found in that part of Korea was our units up on the ridges could see the USS New Jersey firing these 16-inch shells 20 miles inland. And you never heard anything like that when they go over. Oh, my God. But they could reach into these bunkers very well. I wouldn't want that ship firing at me. That was in New Jersey, and she was close enough to us.
SPEAKER 06 :
Wow. Well, John Riff, this has been absolutely fascinating, and I find it a little bit ironic that you left New Jersey, and then it was the New Jersey then that was helping you out when you were there in Korea. So, John Riff, go ahead. I never thought of that. Yes. Okay. John Riff, it has been such an honor to get to do this interview. I thank you so much.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, thanks for calling and bringing this up, Kim. I guess it will go down in the dustbins of history somewhere.
SPEAKER 06 :
That it will. That it will. So, my friends. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 11 :
We had a nice conversation. That's what counts.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay. Well, for sure. So, John Riff, thank you. My friends, we indeed live. We stand on the shoulders of giants. So, God bless you and God bless America.
SPEAKER 09 :
Thank you for listening to America's Veteran Stories with Kim Munson. Be sure to tune in again next Sunday, 3 to 4 p.m. here on KLZ 560 and KLZ 100.7.
SPEAKER 08 :
The views and opinions expressed on KLZ 560 are those of the speaker, commentators, hosts, their guests, and callers. They are not necessarily the views and opinions of Crawford Broadcasting or KLZ management, employees, associates, or advertisers. KLZ 560 is a Crawford Broadcasting God and country station.
2/1/25: Coloradans for Responsible Wildlife Management with Dan Gates-Celebrating our VICTORY on the Win for NO on Proposition 127 & much more! Today’s Guests: Dan Gates with Coloradans For Responsible Wildlife Management is with us for the hour to provide a recap of all the amazing work that was done to defeat Colorado’s Proposition 127 in our recent election. Dan also provides an in depth look on what’s in store for 2025 and beyond with the various activist groups and how they are organized to continue fighting hunters, anglers and outdoorsmen and women of their rights. The mission of Coloradans For Responsible Wildlife Management is To Enhance, Promote and Defend the North American Model of Wildlife Conservation and Responsible Wildlife Management. We focus on the public’s best interests for maintaining a century-old track record of our natural resources, including wildlife, fisheries, habitat, and working farms and ranches. Download the KLZ 560 App to listen live. The Sportsman Of Colorado Radio Podcast on www.SportsmanofColorado.com is sponsored by www.DavisTent.com.
SPEAKER 08 :
Welcome to Sportsman of Colorado, Colorado's premier outdoor radio show heard every Saturday afternoon on KLZ 560 with insights on hunting, fishing, archery, guns, and ammo from Colorado's top outfitters featuring the industry's leading experts on how to enhance your experience in the great outdoors. Now, here's your host, Scott Watley.
SPEAKER 13 :
Welcome to Sportsman of Colorado. Thank you so much for being with us today. All right, we are about to wrap up some of the previous interviews that we did about three weeks ago now at the International Sportsman's Expo. Today's show we wanted to bring to you in its entirety, and so it is the entire show with Dan Gates. Dan is with Coloradans for Responsible for Wildlife Management and really helped us spearhead our victory on Prop 127 now several months ago. But Dan, He sat down with Kevin Flesch and myself at the International Sportsman's Expo, and we just got to visit and reflect back on that win with Prop 127 and then some of the battles we already know we're going to be facing here in 2025 on more threats on our hunting rights here in Colorado. So I hope you'll enjoy this conversation once again. It was about three weeks ago we sat down with Dan Gates at the International Sportsman's Expo. Welcome to Sportsman of Colorado. Hey, real quick, we've been playing some interviews for you that we recorded at the recent Denver International Sportsman's Expo and glad we could grab ahold of our good buddy Dan Gates. Coloradans responsible for wildlife management. and became very familiar with Dan over these last few years, but especially over the last year as we were fighting this Prop 127. And, again, hey, it's always nice to have a victory. And, Dan, welcome, first of all. How are you?
SPEAKER 11 :
Good, Scott. Thank you very much. Thanks, Kevin.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, it's good to see you. Man, I tell you, it was a nice win, and it's almost like we're watching in sports, you know, We don't know yet if the Broncos are going to win because they're playing right now. They're recording that. But if they win, hey, you get to relish in that for a short time because then they've got the Kansas City Chiefs next week if they win. Exactly. And it's kind of like, hey, we won this, and we all, man, awesome. But, man, many more battles are coming, aren't they?
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, I mean, it's the playbook that the anti-hunting community has been very successful on is they capitalize even off of a loss to generate funds and to recreate their message and to figure out and strategize what worked for them, but mostly what worked against them so they can turn around and modify their objectives and their efforts. As we saw over the course of the last several days at the Colorado Parks and Wildlife Commission, you know, right after the election on November 5th, the commission voted on the East Slope Mountain Lion Management Plan at the commission meeting in Lamar. That was the week after. We had two victories the month of November that nobody thought we'd get either one of them. We knew that if we won on November 5th, that we would win. at the commission meeting for the East Slope plan. We knew that if we lost on November 5th, then inevitably we would have lost on the East Slope plan. But the antis doubled down to the point to where when we won twice and kicked the heck out of them, I mean, to the point to where... they were reeling and they lost some of their employees and they lost some of their support and some of their donors and and then they just started to rebuild up but what they've done is they've rebuilt their armament by further lies and deceit and fallacies and falsehoods even more uh substantial and extraordinary than what they did in the entire campaign yeah and that was still substantial yeah and now they've just built up about you know they said this last meeting uh while we lost 55 to 45 percent that was a mandate for the people of colorado to voted no on or voted yes on proposition 127 that they want you the commission to be able to do their work for them that they couldn't get done well i don't know where the heck you guys are from but you know 55 to 45 is much much different than even on the wolf deal that was 50.9 to 49.1 And I tell you what, that's a landslide in today's political environment. It is. By 10 percentage points, and then they say, no, that's not what those people meant. They wanted you to do this.
SPEAKER 13 :
And it wasn't like some come from behind. The way I remember it, we were never behind.
SPEAKER 11 :
Not the night of the election. The night of the election, yeah. There was a lot of consternation and woulda, shoulda, coulda thinking before the election. But, you know... There was a lot of things that played into our victory then that we knew that we had to figure out a way to capitalize on because they weren't going to stop. As soon as the election was done, if they would have won, they would have moved to something else. Now that they lost, they're still trying to get that through the process. You know, the gal that was running the Cats Aren't Trophies campaign, Samantha Miller, now she's working for the Colorado Chapter Sierra Club. And then Julie Marshall, who claims to be this public information officer that worked underneath the MoMA administration for the old Division of Wildlife, she's taken over Cats Aren't Trophies. But just the lies that they do, they spew and they actually believe them. And now they're even turning around and trying to utilize some of our argument and twist it so the commission is more maybe acceptant to maybe those philosophies or ideologies.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah. And we were talking before recording this just about sort of the foundation of what we've all done and what you've been the spearhead for relating to the movement itself to really continue to to remember that this is just the first step, that this isn't something that ends after this election, that we have to continue to be vigilant. Maybe talk about that.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, I mean, the continue to be vigilant deal, that's one reason why we're set up here at the show. I mean, John Kirk's been more than accommodating for us the last couple years with the ISC show. And we leave here, and we're going to Reno, and then we've got some people that are going to be in SCI down in Nashville. We'll be out in Utah for the Western Hunt Expo. We'll be at the Mile High Expo in April at the Gaylord. The vigilance of making sure that we stay in the eye and in the voice of people and making sure that they're part of the equation in continuing messaging and buildup. One of the most frustrating things that we did in this entire deal was trying to get... people on board well now we've got them on board yeah uh i mean if you look at our facebook and instagram you look at our following you look at the viewership you look at what we've created just recently starting our own podcast yeah it's not for anything other than spreading the word and keeping people engaged because to be honest with you i don't have the time or the intestinal fortitude or the bandwidth or the resources to build up what we've already built up once We have it here. We've got an army. We've got a team. We've got a philosophy, and we've got a message to be able to support the science. We don't just stop, go into the shadows, and then turn around and try to build it up the next time. No, we have to continue marching forward just like the antis have done. But what they've done is hold together a small rag-tag bunch of individuals. And if you look, and this is just a comparable analysis, The first announcement of our podcast that we just did recently this week had 141,000 views on Facebook. The first announcement. Yeah. Cats Aren't Trophies is doing one as well. They're doing a podcast. They had five views. Five. Right. 5 to 141,000. We want to capitalize on the momentum that we built and make sure that, you know, this entire industry has the ability to be able to continue to participate and be part of solving the problem.
SPEAKER 13 :
Wow. Dan Gates is with us also. I'm so used to Kevin being here at the show. I didn't even mention Kevin Flesher also. I'm so used to Kevin looking over and just seeing him. But Kevin Flesher is here with us as well. So, Dan, what is the message now, so to speak? I mean, you know, if you look at your last couple of podcasts, what are we trying to get out right now as we speak?
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, the biggest thing is to make sure that people don't take it for granted that our victory was just one battle. It was just one battle. And the war continues, you know. Immediately thereafter the election, while we were doing our stuff at the commission meeting on the East Slope Mountain Land Management Plan, there was already conversations about fair chase and about trophy hunting and about utilizing of collars and tracking devices and GPS devices on dogs. That was already part of the conversation. They just carried it over from a two week loss. if you looked at what they did in Arizona, different groups, same mentality, same message. They immediately put out a petition to turn around and ban the utilization of any dog for any sort of sport hunting that is considered part of game management. Didn't matter if it was quail, didn't matter if it was for coyotes, didn't matter if it was raccoons or hounds for lions and bobcats. They went to the commission there for the Arizona Game and Fish Commission. Howell for Wildlife and the Conserve and Protect Arizona group, came together, had about 60 people testify on that day. It wasn't even on the agenda that day, but they had already submitted the petition. But the sports community came out in full force to say, look, when this is on the agenda, this is what you're going to expect times 10. And I think that those sort of feelers that the anti-groups kick out are things that they see, okay, They want to capitalize off the people that voted for Proposition 127, even though they lost, and try to get that same sort of enthusiasm to another state. New Mexico doesn't have the ballot initiative process like what we do for citizens petitions, but they do have the General Assembly that's not very favorable. And they've actually taken some hunting privileges and game management privileges away in New Mexico. We expect that during this legislative session, there's probably going to be something else that falls in New Mexico. You've got Arizona that's having their issues. Montana's reached out to us individually. Wyoming has reached out. Idaho, Nevada, Utah, the hound hunters there. I mean, we've even had North Dakota and South Dakota representatives reach out to us going, how did you? How can we emulate and what can we do to duplicate and replicate what you guys did? Because we're not prepared in our state. Yeah. And the biggest thing that we did with CRWM when we challenged ourselves to be able to take this on is we had already had CRWM formulated six years prior to the ballot initiative. Mm-hmm. And so when all these organizations and states and entities are reaching out going, how do we do this? Well, you better formulate something. Right. You got to start now because it's coming. Yeah. Whether it's a coalition, whether it's an individual effort from an individual organization, you better have it built when they get there because when they don't, it's like that. It's like that three little pigs fairy tale when we were growing up. The one guy built the straw house, but the other guy built the brick house in preparation because he saw everything else get burned down, blown down, or whatever. And the brick house is what turned around. And it's a good analogy because we're still dealing with wolf issues here. Build up a brick house first.
SPEAKER 13 :
and then when they come they have a harder time turning around and knocking it down yeah wolf deal man yeah i just said that the the little pigs we feel like the little pigs yeah i'm telling you what i think that one reward is up to a hundred thousand dollars on that on that one wolf on that one i've seen some things with kids missing kevin i've seen some things you know a lot less than that and yet there's a hundred grand for a war yeah
SPEAKER 11 :
And a lot of that comes out from, you stop and think, them trying to make an example and set a point. They want to turn around and set the tone and narrative that this is as important as anything wildlife related in the state of Colorado, period. And they want to set it for everybody. And look, people will disagree with our position, CRWM, or maybe my personal position. I don't like the wolf being here, but the people voted on it. And if I'm going to turn around and prop up the statistics on 127 by 55 to 45, I have to recognize that we lost that election. Now, if we want to reverse it, that might be a challenge. If we want to turn around and go through court, that might be a challenge. But in the meantime, I don't like it. But in the meantime. It does us no good for our side when you look at social media and you look at all the outreach that we have available to us. For guys to get on there and turn around and say, shoot, shovel, shut up. We need to turn around. You see a wolf, you shoot a wolf. Okay, well, I tell you what. The $100,000 reward is nothing like the fine on the federal side of shooting in endangered species.
SPEAKER 04 :
And your hunting privileges and the confiscation of all the assets.
SPEAKER 11 :
And your house and everything. I mean, you cannot afford. Right. And if you think, which is funny to me, when somebody turns around and puts their name on there, whether it's Bart Smith or Alan Jones or whatever it might be, and if they're on there, I apologize, I just pulled those names out.
SPEAKER 06 :
Right.
SPEAKER 11 :
But if they just put their name on there and then say, we should shoot this. That means, you know, you're not helping the cause, but you're darn sure not helping your own cause. Right. And I think that, you know, like the grip and grin photos that we do in the social media stuff, I'm not opposed to people turn around and posting about their great experience and what they did with their kids and what they did in the field and, you know, the endurance that they had to, you know, engage in for 20 days on a sheep hunter. I don't have a problem with that. But the trophy hunting side of what the general public looks at... is something we had to fight that cost us hundreds of thousands of dollars and inevitably millions of dollars during Proposition 127, during the campaign. Because we're not talking to us three. We're not talking to the majority of the people at this sports show. We're not talking to the majority of the hunters. We're talking to the non-hunter. The non-hunter cannot disseminate or decipher the difference between what's hunting, trophy hunting, what's poaching, what's hunting. And then when you look at fair chase components, A picture, they say, is worth a thousand words. Well, a video is worth a million.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 11 :
And if you turn around and take the clip that was important to you and you put it out there and it's watched by somebody that actually voted no on 127 or that was supportive of science-based wildlife management, but then they see something and they take it out of context that was part of the message of the opposition, of the proponents of the measure.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 11 :
This is what all these heathen bastards are really doing.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right.
SPEAKER 11 :
We don't need that sort of substantiation. When somebody makes a quote about shoot, shovel, and shut up, those things do not help anything to get people on our side and people in the middle to understand that we are supportive of science-based wildlife management, that we're 1,000% supportive of the North American model of wildlife conservation, and we have to be able to prop that flag up Because I've said it many, many, many times, it's undeniably the most successful emulated model of wildlife management on the planet. And grip and grin photos and little taglines out of people's comments on different things do nothing for the cause and do nothing for the effort to be able to sustain it.
SPEAKER 04 :
One of the things that we do still have a fight with that I think the people in the middle would have some concerns about is what the governor is talking about doing and protecting those wolves in the sense of how much it's going to cost with the range riders and all of the other things that they're proposing. Is that another aspect of this that we can say, hey, listen, this isn't just putting wolves back into the field, but now we're having people and taxpayer money to essentially protect them. And is that something people should be concerned about?
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, I think as this program continually goes, if you look at it, I mean, it's $4 million to $5 million over budget right now. I was with like 10 wolves on the ground with seven survivors after a variety of different things. And the thing that I want to stress, and for those that haven't listened to commission meetings or paid attention to the General Assembly and so forth, wolves die naturally. Lions die naturally. Elk and deer die naturally. What sportsmen and women do is provide a component of – Funding, management, and also the trickle-down economic side that goes into the entire state. Last two months ago, I guess, in the last month, it was determined that hunting and fishing to the state alone was a trickle-down effect of $7.25 billion. If you start taking that stuff out... And the taxpayers have to pay for it. Look what taxpayers are having to deal with right now. Just on lying, non-lethal preparation and mitigation efforts without management for sportsmen. Yeah. But sportsmen, it's not sportsmen dollars that are paying for it, but it's sportsmen time and effort. Because even though the money can't come out from the game cash fund, from the wildlife side of it, for the management... The efforts put together by the employees that have to go out and do the work takes time away from the other 961 species of wildlife while wolves turn around and get pedestalized and a lot of other things are being neglected or marginalized. And I think that those things, to the general public, probably went in our favor coming up against Proposition 127 because I interviewed myself. A lot of people in Denver, young men and young women, people with families that said, why do we even get a chance to talk about this? I mean, you know, I don't want a landscape guy doing brain surgery. Right. I want experts to turn around and do – the work of our wildlife management and resources yeah the problem is the things that become so politicized right and they become so agenda driven and people need to turn around and speak up and and and i know that parks and wildlife officials have have a gag order on them so to speak they can't they can't talk about things unless they're told to talk about them or unless it falls within the confines of what they're doing they can't do any op-ed pieces No, but you look at what happened on 127. Look what the Colorado Wildlife Employees Protection Association did. That's what I mean.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 11 :
You know, they came out and they turned around and supported the efforts that we were doing on 127. Look at the Denver Post editorial board came out. We formulated a movement to where people needed to speak up about what was right and what was wrong, not just what somebody wanted or not what something was going to happen to turn around and try to take something away.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah. Wow, interesting. Again, if you're just joining us, we are recording here at the Denver International Sportsman's Expo. We're playing these a few days later. Dan Gates is with us, Colorado's responsible for wildlife management. What's your podcast's name?
SPEAKER 11 :
It is Through the Gates, and it's subtitled To Save the Hunt.
SPEAKER 13 :
Okay, Through the Gates.
SPEAKER 11 :
Through the Gates, and you'll be able to find that on every platform. You can also go to our website. at SaveTheHuntColorado.com, and you can find the podcast on there. Click it on there. It'll take you right to the episodes. We've had a really good response over the first two episodes. We're going to try to do updates and infotainment-type stuff a couple times a week and then a couple times a month have longer versions, but it's to express the needs, the wants and desires of the general public to get the information about the maintaining science-based wildlife management. Now, that's going to come from biologists. It's going to come from legislators and administrators, and it's going to come from boots-on-the-ground people. We've already recorded a few episodes with some former game wardens with Colorado Parks and Wildlife that have spoken very freely. Oh, really? Yeah. Which is on you. That's good. You said retire. Yeah. And we've got the former... State Director for USDA Wildlife Services, Martin Lowney, that'll be on here in the month of January. Martin has a plethora of 37 years experience. He recently retired in 2024, but he was part of this whole wolf debacle. And Martin pretty much kind of... Spells it out. I won't say spills the beans, but he spells it out. And, you know, we had Jan Demoski on. Oh, yeah. And we've got some other great guests that are coming up. But it's not to turn around and try to sell a product or a destination. It's to create that campaign that we talked about of holding the line and making sure that we don't have to rebuild an army in six months. Yeah. And in 10 months or 12 months. We want to talk about the issues and the efforts. And it's not even competing with anything except for the fact that we're just trying to get people to stay motivated enough to say, well, I didn't know that. Right. Because before, it was taking us four to five weeks to get information to somebody. And then there was no follow-up to anything. I mean, it's like, okay, well, I heard about that, but had anybody heard about that? And so while social media is kicking out a lot of information, it's not in the weeds to the point. It's more on the surface and on the periphery. So we hope that we can provide the public with what they want. And after doing 86 podcasts myself or everybody else over the course of the last 14, 15 months, I know how to talk. I don't know how to run a podcast. But we got some really good support. And I want to give Bobby Marshall with the Mountainside podcast a plug because he's helping us out and kind of getting us up and running to where it looks like it's not a bumbling Neanderthal sitting there turning around trying to do something. Like my show. You know, Scott makes it look so easy.
SPEAKER 04 :
But, you know, it's not. There's a lot of.
SPEAKER 13 :
No, it is. You know, but we'll try to, you know, ask you a day about kind of how long your clip deal is. Because, I mean, I'd love to do some clips here. And, man, we'll certainly do all we can for you, too. Because that's been the whole day of my show. Because, I mean, you know, they have these partners in the outdoors meetings in the mountains, right? And I used to come back and tell different directors of CPW and different people that would listen. that like, okay, y'all go have all these meetings, but you come back with nothing to disseminate. How do we get that information?
SPEAKER 11 :
Exactly.
SPEAKER 13 :
So hopefully, you know, between us, we can get it all figured out, man.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, I think between some of the industry leaders, between some of the government officials, you know, I was fortunate enough to be asked on multiple occasions post the 127 election. I went to the National Assembly of Sportsmen's Caucuses in Baton Rouge, Louisiana, late November. I was asked to go down there and speak to legislators from around the country. And... spoke on behalf of the Wildlife Council concept, spoke on behalf of what we did for 127. I've been asked to go to Reno to the Wild Sheep Foundation meeting or convention next week and to speak and to be participating at different levels. The Western Hunt Expo, the Mile High. I mean... We do so much on the grassroots statewide level. I know. The Congressional Sportsman's Foundation, Sportsman's Day at the Capitol, our involvement at the commission. We are the only organization in the state that still has full-time lobbying representation for sportsmen and women at the state capitol. All that takes funding. Right. But more importantly, it takes engagement to where people feel like that they want to fund. And I got to mention, I didn't think that it would take off as much as what it has. But like with our booth here, last year we were here and we were trying to promote this. Now, it was way early in the process. We were still on the title board last year. And people said, oh, that's never going to happen. Or, oh, well, good luck. I guess you're going to lose another one. Overwhelmingly, the people that have come by the booth this trip, They're like, man, thanks a bunch. High fives. Let me donate. Can I get a shirt? Will you take a picture? We want to support. How do we get involved? What's your website? Your podcast? Pretty impressive that in a year's time that we created something where everybody said, well, you guys are screwed, to, hey, thanks for not getting screwed, and what do we need to do to help?
SPEAKER 04 :
Right. And the number of people that have come to talk with us, too, to say the threat is real. Yes. That we won this one, but we now recognize that this isn't over.
SPEAKER 11 :
I think one of the things that really, really made a difference, too, was in the city and county of Denver, we flopped about 14 percentage points over the Wolf deal and same in Boulder. We lost them still, but we flipped them to 127 in our favor. The Ordinance 308 and the Ordinance 309, the fur ban and the slaughterhouse ban that the city and county of Denver people could vote on just by itself, rose awareness about, wait a minute. They're going to tell me I can't buy fishing lures and I can't get a cowboy hat and I can't go to the Indian market and march powwow. And then they want to turn around and take my food service away, even though, I mean, not everybody eats lamb.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 11 :
But I tell you what, I did a survey with a bunch of young women in downtown Denver after a Rockies game in September. And I've told this story several times on different podcasts. But when I mentioned Ordinance 309 to those young ladies, like 25 of them in different bunches, and I just walked up to them and said, can I buy you a beer or a drink? I just want to ask you some questions to see if the polls that we had conducted were similar to what these women were coming up with.
SPEAKER 06 :
Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER 11 :
And when I mentioned a slaughterhouse, they said, oh, I don't know. And I said, well, that's the largest lamb slaughterhouse in the western United States. It's a food processing facility. Yeah. 105, 145 people work there, and it's been there for 70 years. And then the girls, all of them, every single one of them, which I didn't know this was a trend, every single one of them said lamb. You mean like at Papadeau's or at Elway's or at Shanahan's or at the Buckhorn? They want to stop lamb? I said, yeah. All of these women were voting for Kamala Harris. All of these women were voting no on 308, 309, and 127. So just because people live in Denver and just because they have political backgrounds on a national scale that are different, they still understand, don't mess with me. Don't mess with my friend. Don't mess with my grandpa. Don't mess with the history and the tradition and the heritage and leave all of this stuff to the experts.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 11 :
That research on my own gave me some confidence. maybe some pleasure and foresight of what was yet to come because I thought, if I talk to 25 young more affluent, $80,000 to $150,000 a year young women in downtown Denver that are voting for Kamala Harris and voting no on all three of these other deals, I think that the anti-community, the pro-animal future, and the Cats Aren't Trophies and the animal welfare action with Wayne Pacelli, I think that they bit off more than they could chew, which was obvious by the outcome of the vote.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, sure, sure. I know your time's short, but real quick, commission meetings just finished up over the last couple of days. Agonizing. update kind of what those were about and kind of I want to get everybody we can. It seems like most of them are at noon. I'm on air noon to one. Yeah. So I hate that. But first of all everybody can attend those needs to ride whether virtually or what.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well I tell you what Scott there's nothing. The sense of urgency has never been more important than right now. You know, we always do the cry wolf syndrome. No, but this is – there was 160-some-odd people that testified from the anti-side at this past commission meeting. There was less than 40 sportsmen and women. Now, 40 sportsmen and women is about 10 times more than what we used to get. But the antis have felt so empowered over this that they've rallied the troops and they've turned around and they used me as a specific target, like I'm the antichrist. And they want to come out 100% against the cause. But we do need to belly up to the bar. We need to turn around and show up or they're going to put up. And so this last commission meeting on Wednesday and Thursday, the 8th and 9th of January, set the tone and narrative for the March commission meeting. and the May Commission meeting and what they want to turn around and try to accomplish because they're hearing so much backlash and influx from the opposition, our opposition. They're concerned citizens of the state of Colorado, but they're misguided and they're misinformed and they're agenda-driven. And so sportsmen and women, if they really want to see what is going on, they need to pay attention about the wolf issue. They need to pay attention about the mountain lion issue, the trophy hunting issue, the fair chase issue. There is a talk about a complete furbearer hunting ban. That would be beavers, because the governor wants a beaver management plan. That would be Red Fox. I mean, there was a guy, Mark Searles, with Project Coyote, who was on the Cats Aren't Trophies board, who made a bunch of cartoons about me during the campaign. I mean, he's with Project Coyote. They want to turn around and prohibit or restrict, significantly restrict, the harvest of coyotes. Go back to that deal. They don't want us to tell, they want bag limits and they want quotas. There's no biological fact to any of this. It's just we don't like you doing it. You shouldn't be able to do that. Now there's a talk about the commercialization side of things because they've interpreted commercialization under the North American model to extend over to fur bearers. But they fail to realize or at least talk about that there's exemptions and exceptions in the North American model for fur bearing animals because they are fur bearing animals. That has been written in stone since we've actually started doing North American model laws, rules, and regulations of the 1880s, 1890s. Now it's been codified under the model, but they forget to say that because it's not as flashy. It doesn't go along with their narrative. So people need to fully understand that everything that's going on now forward is whatever direction they can get traction on. This fair chase component, well, we don't think you should be hunting mountain lions or bobcats or any animal with hounds because it goes against fair chase. Okay, well, so does bird hunting there. So does waterfowl or rabbit hunting or anything else. Because I don't know how you guys are, but when I was a kid and I had beagles and we were chasing rabbits. Maybe it was 200 yards. Maybe it was 300 yards. Maybe it was 400 yards because I couldn't keep up with the darn beagle. That's no different than a hound today with a lion. I know guys that have bird dogs that that bird dog might turn around and run like a bat out of hell and get three or four or 500 yards and then point and hold up and just wait there. Now, without a GPS tracking device, you don't even know where that dog is. It's not like he's waving a red flag in there. That is no different than a mountain lion or a bobcat.
SPEAKER 04 :
And if you read the law... That they were trying to enact with the cats. Yes. It didn't say just cats. No.
SPEAKER 11 :
It was all collared animals. Yes. And that's what people have to fully understand is if they can get a little bit of a victory, if they can get a little bit of a chink in the armor.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yep. They just need to get those hands in the door. They think they can open the door all the way.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah. I mean, if...
SPEAKER 04 :
there's talk for a minute because if i can find this thing really quick it's worth reading yeah and i'll spend the extra time to turn around and read no it's completely true and and that's i mean and even in their losses they're looking at places where they think that they've still got the ability to raise an argument with the commission so that the commissioners change the will of the people i mean that that's that's the way they that's how they operate because they're always going to take the no is not the answer. That it's just another way that they need to change. I was listening to the radio as this was going on and listening to a couple of the individuals who were being interviewed about why they were in favor of this. And like you nicely said, Dan, about them being dishonest. I mean, it was just so blatantly obvious the motivation by these folks. They want to stop All hunting.
SPEAKER 11 :
I mean, that is their goal. All of it. All of it. So, I want to read this real quick. And I want to read the whole thing because I don't want to give them any more credit than credits do. But it's Cats Aren't Trophies. And if anybody wants to follow them, it's worth following them because this is the tone and narrative that they're going to continue to try to set. But this is the email that they sent out just the day after the commission meeting last week. So it says Prop 127 failed in the November elections, but it's clear that voters didn't thumb their nose at the idea of protecting big cats. Rather, they wanted us to take the matter to the Colorado Parks and Wildlife and to the decision makers at the Colorado Parks and Wildlife Commission. We listened, and we are pursuing reform through that channel with vigor. Already, we are seeing a new atmosphere at the commission with more animal welfare advocates and fair chase hunters participating in the public deliberations about policy. On January 8th and 9th, CATS volunteers flooded the CPW Hunter Education Building for a commissioner meeting with mountain lions, bobcats, commercial fur trapping, and wolves on the agenda. I sat next to Brenda Lee of the Colorado Bear Coalition who remarked, I have never seen this room so packed with people. 169 people signed up to testify in person or virtually, and we far outnumbered the trophy hunters of lions, fur trappers, and wolf haters. They were prepared with science, reason, and purpose. One by one, CAT supporters spoke to support commissioners Jack Murphy and Jessica Boullieu as they were wrongly being sued by Safari Club for an opinion piece calling to vote yes on Prop 127. It was clear that the commissioners appreciated the show of support, and we are standing up to the bullies and the trophy-hunting clan and the dog hunters, and the commissioners now see that they've got support to more freely express our views. Now, that goes on from there. But it gives you the context that you and I and everybody in this arena here that has a booth is under attack in some form or fashion because they have felt empowered. They go on to say down through here, it just says, I mostly wanted to thank every single one of you CATS members and also for writing the most exquisite speech as well as sending letters of support. We are making progress. We are a true coalition. with all voices of unison walking together and building partnerships still many members of cats didn't directly participate but now that you see that so many others did it is time to join us get engaged the fight for our native cats and all other wildlife species is at our doorsteps and is by no means over we are working together yep that's it right there that's right that's their email yeah i mean now there's more to it but yeah but i tell you what Any listener on your show or anybody that's come to our booth or anybody that follows us on social media and sees what we're trying to do. I would just I would beg. But I'm getting to the point where I almost need to shame. Because I heard some things on Friday when I was running the booth over there. Yeah, those people need to show up to the commission meeting. I'm like, well, you're one of those people. Who are those people? Because we're already showing up. And so I would like to turn around and challenge everybody. And I've said this on multiple podcasts over the last 14, 15 months. If every single sportsman or woman would take eight hours a year And I'm not talking about banquets and fundraisers and going to a shotgun shoot or something. Take eight hours a year and actually volunteer for the fight. Maybe that's two hours at a commission meeting. Maybe that's writing four letters. Maybe that's getting some people together. Eight hours a year, one day a year, essentially. Maybe it's busted up in four days or maybe two days or maybe one. But if they would do that, times a million sportsmen and women in the state of Colorado, you'd have eight million volunteer hours for the fight. Not for the conservation, not the support, but for the fight. If we can't afford eight hours a year to do what we all advocate for and that we spend probably 30 to 40 hours looking at preference points and all the other stuff and where we're going to hunt and what season we're going to go and what new gear I'm going to get and I'm going to shoot my bow. We spend more time in preparing for the hunt than most people ever do the hunt. Right. If we just spent eight hours a year, maybe we wouldn't have to fight so hard and people wouldn't have to turn around and listen to me and you gripe about it. Right.
SPEAKER 13 :
if you're just joining us dan gates has been with us uh colorado's responsible wildlife management hey check out the new podcast through the gates uh to also stay in touch with save the hunt colorado.com uh of course we would love for you to stay in touch with us here at sports from colorado radio as well and we will try to keep you informed of all the things and we will certainly try to keep dan on as frequently as he can and uh updating us on things but And we do want to thank everybody, Dan. And we've said this before with the Prop 127. We kind of had a good ground game. You know, people that came to different things with Will at Davis Tent and put out yard signs, different things like that. And I do think that made a difference, you know.
SPEAKER 11 :
Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER 13 :
And talking to a lot of people, too, that weren't hunters and trying to get them to understand that it wasn't necessarily about a mountain lion hunting.
SPEAKER 11 :
Right.
SPEAKER 13 :
It was just about the whole foothold that they would get on it. And, man, I see. And so many people saw through that.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, completely. These subject matters, these topics we could talk on and on and on because you see how things have culminated for the better. The ground game that we had was undeniably and remarkably not expected by the opposition, by the proponents of 127. They were really blown away by the fact that we were able to turn around and unite and not vilify each other and that we could collaborate and that we could fundraise and that we could turn around and actually put a visual component of the ground game together through the yard signs, through the billboards, through the public interactions, through all the podcasts and through everything that we did that they didn't have, although they were trying to duplicate, but they didn't have the people to do it. And so kudos goes out to the sportsmen and women of the state of Colorado because not only did they come together, but a lot of our friends and family and sportsmen from around the country. We took donations in from 50 states. 72% of all money that was raised came from sportsmen and women, not dark money like what the opposition said. Sportsmen and women that have the vested interest in Colorado. They either are from Colorado, they hunt Colorado, they want to hunt Colorado, they buy preference points annually, they've got property here, they've got business relationships here, they've got family here. Non-residents are just as much invested as residents. And I understand the resident component, but I want people to really realize 72% of the money came from non-residents to turn around and support this. Now, there's more non-residents than there is residents. But to break that barrier, that's something that's never been done. in a ballot initiative history and we should commend the non-residents to help us continue that fight because every other state is going to have to have non-residents on their side at one point in time you know as we move forward at different levels yeah we're good and i love my t-shirts and sweatshirts with your face on it now real quick
SPEAKER 13 :
Did you ever really think there would be mugs with your mug, there would be T-shirts, there would be sweatshirts with Dan Gates on them?
SPEAKER 11 :
And I did not design any of that. I walked into the house mid-campaign. My wife was wearing a hoodie with my face on it. And for anybody who wants, they can go to save.colorado.com to get one. but but i walked in i said i said what the heck is that and she said well luke and bob came over that and i said who is bob and she said well that's the guy running our our shopping cart i said we have a shopping cart so they did all this stuff behind the scenes and and within the first month we sold about 400 of those darn hoodies and t-shirts with my face on them and they just started to try to escalate a little bit and then they did the mugs and they did some other stuff and i'm That is not why we did this, but every single dollar. But it's been cool. It has. It's been cool, but it shows buy-in. When we went to the state capitol on October 18th and did the rally down there prior to the election, It was emotional for me because of the type and the amount of people that were there. But to look down from the podium of the steps of the west side of the Capitol and have legislators lined up behind me and have commissioners lined up and sportsmen and women lined up and then hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of sportsmen and women down below some with their dogs and me calling out. what organizations or what avocation there was, elk hunters and bow hunters and turkey hunters and hound hunters. And to see the people that were there supporting the cause, science-based wildlife management, and the North American model, and then looking through the crowd and seeing... multiple dozens of hoodies with my face on them. That would be emotional for me, too. I'm thinking, what the heck did we create? Because this is just really weird.
SPEAKER 13 :
You know, I've told you this real quick in closing. I've told you this before, man. I mean, you know, yeah, it took a lot of people, and certainly we couldn't thank everybody enough, but you also got to have a strong leader and somebody that's good at articulating the whole message, and Man, I've never met anybody better than you at that.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 13 :
Because, I mean, to hold your emotions in with stuff. Right. Because most of us just get ticked at some point and just want to blow up, you know. And you certainly have that capability if somebody wants to pull that string. Yeah. But, you know, but to do it from just, man, to keep your composure and just, you know, your professional way. And I told you just the other day when you walked in, Bob Roshad, the first time to the studio, dude, I was like – This guy scares me to death. Yeah, but just, man, I've never met anyone, man, that can articulate like you can the message and different things. So I know we wouldn't be in that celebratory mood here about Prop 127 without you.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, I joke about it, and I appreciate the compliment and the kind words. You know, you can shine up a dull penny. But if you don't continue to polish it, it's going to get tarnished. And I'm trying to make sure that we don't get tarnished as an organization. And I've got to thank the support from guys like you and many other sportsmen and women. But the volunteers that have stepped up in this entire process just showed up out of nowhere. You know, 22-year-old girls that... That one little girl. I say little girl. She's a young... She's a bad... She's very cool. What's her name? Jessica Whitaker. I'm going to call her out because if she listens to this, I mean, she is phenomenal. I mean, this girl's about four foot tall, and I mean, you would not want to mess with her. No, she's a firecracker. She's a sports lady. She helped us with signage, and she's just really... just a gem.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 11 :
And some of the other young ladies that have stepped up to help us up on all of our outreach and stuff. It's so enthusiastic and invigorating to see young women feel like that they needed to follow a leader of a gray-grizzled, bearded old guy that was trying to do something. But we spoke for them on behalf of them, and they felt like that they could jump onto that bandwagon. And I tell you what.
SPEAKER 04 :
That's what we need.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, and it's dozens and dozens and dozens. And I just can't thank the community enough for the support because while we started the campaign, We needed help. We couldn't do it alone. And the organizations, entities, businesses, politicians, commissioners, sportsmen and women, everybody. It took everybody to turn around and make a team. But there's no free agency like there is in football. So we need to keep the team together. And we need to make sure that we are solid and that we're consistent in our message to make sure that we keep moving the needle and trying to thread it.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, absolutely. Well, Dan, appreciate your time. Appreciate you guys very much.
SPEAKER 11 :
Thanks, Dan.
SPEAKER 13 :
Look forward to future with it, working with you. And, man, let's keep winning. Appreciate it. That's a good feeling.
SPEAKER 11 :
I'll get you on my podcast, and we'll make a store out of me. There you go. There you go.
SPEAKER 13 :
Once again, we did this recording here at the International Sportsman's Expo. Once again, it is Through the Gates for Dan's podcast, and we'll keep you more informed about that. Dan will be on with us. We'll share some clips from that from time to time as time allows as well. We've got to take a quick break, and we'll be back with more of Sportsman of Colorado Radio right after this. Thanks for being with us today for Sportsman of Colorado. Again, if you came in a little bit late and heard all the noise in the background, that was a conversation we had with Dan Gates at the Denver International Sportsman's Expo. And by the way, Dan has a great podcast that I'd love for you to tune in. It's called Through the Gates. And you can get that anywhere you get your podcast. And you can also check out SaveTheHuntColorado.com. And a quick reminder. The Mile High Hunting Fish Expo is back. And that is April 11th through the 13th. We'll be getting Phil and Abe on with that and telling you what's going to be coming up with that expo. But we are looking forward to a great time there once again. It's at the Gaylord Hotel, April 11th through the 13th. You can get your tickets now. And a lot of exciting things that we've improved from last year, which was an awesome show for our first show. So it's the Mile High Hunting Fish Expo, April 11th through the 13th. Go to milehighhuntexpo.com to get your ticket. So thanks for being with us today. Hope you have a great rest of your weekend. Leave it right here on KLZ 560.
SPEAKER 01 :
At Roof Savers Colorado, we are about more than roofs. We are about helping you make the best decisions with the right information. Being a homeowner isn't getting any easier or cheaper, and neither is getting your roof the solution it needs. Deductibles are going through the roof, and with every passing year, insurance covers less than the one before. Due to a record amount of hailstorms recently, insurance companies have started limiting your coverage and pulling out-of-states entirely. We know the industry. With over 3,000 roofs under our belts and 23 years of experience, Dave Hart and his team are ready to complete a free roof inspection and discuss the option that is best for you. Don't wait. Policy renewals are increasing by as much as 50%. Now is the time to get the solution you need. Call Roof Savers Colorado today at 303- 710-6916 or go to roofsaversco.com. That's 303-710-6916 or go to roofsaversco.com to schedule your free inspection and start saving your roof today.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, it's that time of year again for two familiar words, diet and exercise. And not just for us, but for our pets too. Hey, this is Scott Whatley and from my friends and my vet, Lone Tree Veterinary Medical Center, here are a couple of cold weather tips to help your pets maintain a healthy weight and activity level all winter long. Number one, don't overfeed your pet. Feed only the daily amount of your pet's food recommended by your veterinarian and avoid feeding human food and snacks altogether. Extra calories can add up fast for our pets and just a few extra pounds on a pet can result in obesity. Number two, keep your pet physically active. Even on the coldest days, play with your pet and give it a chance to move around and have fun and burn off some energy. Whether outdoors or indoors, your pet will be healthier and happier with the attention and exercise daily playtime provides. If you need help starting your pet on a healthy plan this year, just call them 303-708-8050. That's 303-708-8050. You can also read more about diet and exercise for pets on our blog page at LoneTreeVet.com.
SPEAKER 12 :
Here's why you need personal injury attorney Kevin Flesch on your side. He understands the way the jury thinks. In the context of a personal injury case, you've been hurt by someone else's negligence. The idea is that you're going to try to recover so that you can get back to where you were just prior to that incident occurring. What that really means from a jurist's perspective is that you're going to be asking them to award you money. So when we talk about fairness, we're talking about six people that you don't know. Those six people view the evidence and make a unanimous decision that will decide what the fair value is. When you're the one who's hurt, you have a good idea of what you think it's worth. The question is, can you persuade those other individuals whom you don't know and were witnesses to believe that's what the case is worth? Kevin Flesch understands the way the jury thinks. Call now for a free consultation. 303-806-8886.
SPEAKER 13 :
The Outdoorsman's Attic is Colorado's very own outdoor gear consignment store. From live bait to lanterns, firearms to ammo, packs to sleeping bags, all the fishing gear you could ever hope for. And if you need some decoys for the waterfowl season, stop into the Outdoorsman's Attic. Hey, this is Scott Whatley here again for my friends at the Outdoorsman's Attic, and they've got hunting, fishing, and camping gear with huge savings up to 70%. You'll find new and pre-owned items to choose from, and since the inventory changes daily, hey, this is a store you need to stop in at least a couple of times a week Reviews. Here's what a few of their customers have said. Cody says, hey, two floors of pure outdoorsman paradise. Mickey said, I love this place. Great small business, family owned and run. Lots to look at and good prices. Amy says, if you need good camping and outdoor gear, go here first. Support a local small business. Such great finds. Everyone is so nice and helpful. So save big, get to the outdoorsman's attic today on all of your outdoor gear. 2650 West Hampton Avenue in Sheridan. Tell them Scott sent you.
SPEAKER 04 :
If you're in the market for a new rifle for the big game season or a new shotgun for some doves or upland game birds, head on over to The Gun Room. Kevin Flesch here from Sportsman of Colorado inviting you to visit Denver's oldest gun dealer, and that's The Gun Room at 1595 Carr Street in Lakewood. They offer buy, trade, consignment, transfers, and appraisals. And if you purchase a gun, we'll cover your background check fee. It's The Gun Room, 1595 Carr Street. Tell them Sportsman of Colorado sent you.
SPEAKER 02 :
Are you in the market for a new firearm? Or maybe looking to purchase your very first firearm? Well, wouldn't it be great to have an experience worth telling your friends and family about while making such an important purchase? At Big Horn Firearms, we know how important that is, and it's our mission to provide this experience to every customer that walks through our front door. Hi, I'm Ryan, owner of Bighorn Firearms, located in southeast Denver, and my team and I are customers too. We know what it's like to experience the typical specialty store attitude, and we believe everyone deserves a first-class experience when purchasing a firearm. If you're searching for friendly service, a knowledgeable and passionate staff, and a great selection of firearms, we'd like to invite you to Denver's best independent gun store, Bighorn Firearms, one mile east of Evans and I-25. Whether it's your first gun or you've been collecting for years, our friendly and knowledgeable staff are passionate about answering all of your questions. Service and selection is our commitment to you. That's Bighorn Firearms, located at 2175 South Jasmine Street, Suite 105, Denver. Call us now, 303-758-9423, or shop online, bighornusa.com.
SPEAKER 13 :
For over 10 years, hunters have relied on OnX maps to help navigate public and private land boundaries across the country. OnX Hunt is the only tool comprised of more than 400 countrywide maps that give clear private and public land boundaries, trails, hunting-specific data, and more. New map layers are constantly being added by pairing with some of the leading names in conservation and the outdoor industry, like the Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation, Boone and Crockett Club, and Eastman's. Whether it's on your smartphone or handheld GPS, make the most of your precious time in the field by navigating with Onyx Hunt. Go to the App Store or onyxmaps.com.
SPEAKER 14 :
Hey, Dan. You know, our jobs are pretty different. I'm a baseball announcer. You're an attorney and a talk show host. Yeah, but we do have something in common. Really? What's that?
SPEAKER 03 :
Our favorite car dealer, Len Lyle Chevrolet.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, definitely not your typical dealership. That's so true, Jack. No high-pressure sales tactics. They respect your time. And when you have two jobs, that's important. You know, I'd recommend Len Lyle Chevrolet to anyone. And with their low overhead, that means... Lower prices.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, we really do have something in common.
SPEAKER 14 :
Len Lyle Chevrolet. Go east and pay the least. Chevy. Find new roads.
SPEAKER 07 :
Riding an e-bike will make you feel like a kid again. Just try it. Hi, I'm Randy Curranci, founder of e-bike of Colorado. E-bikes are a fun way to ride the trails. Pedal assist technology flattens the steepest hills. We have 14 major brands to choose from and our expert staff will find you the perfect bike. Come take a free test ride at e-bike of Colorado in downtown Louisville next to the historic grain elevator. Open seven days a week from 10 a.m. to 7 p.m. Learn more at ebikeofcolorado.com. Just try it.
SPEAKER 13 :
If you're looking for great quality eye care, look no further than Stack Optical. Hey, this is Scott Whatley, and for over 20 years, Allen Stack has been taking care of our optical needs. At Stack Optical, they handle all of your eyewear needs with glasses, prescription glasses, shooting glasses, sunglasses, contacts. eyeglass repairs and yes even eye exams and those eye exams are only 69 and if you've been told you've got a complicated prescription that's just one of the specialties at stack optical at stack optical they have their own on-site lab and in most cases you can have your new glasses in just two to three days stack optical 2233 south monaco parkway free and up-close parking Call them today, 303-321-1578. That's 303-321-1578. Or visit stackoptical.com. And remember, at Stack Optical, you'll see the difference.
SPEAKER 10 :
You're listening to KLZ 560 AM, your home station.
SPEAKER 09 :
The views and opinions expressed on KLZ 560 are those of the speaker, commentators, hosts, their guests, and callers. They are not necessarily the views and opinions of Crawford Broadcasting or KLZ management, employees, associates, or advertisers. KLZ 560 is a Crawford Broadcasting God and country station.
Join Father Andre as he passionately discusses the importance of maintaining religious freedom and moral leadership in today's world. Drawing parallels between life's challenges and biblical teachings, he emphasizes the critical role of genuine leadership and the dangers of corruption and abuse of power. Through powerful narratives and calls to action, Father Andre inspires listeners to lead lives of justice and integrity, reminding us of the eternal peace promised to those who live righteously.
SPEAKER 02 :
Andrei lusto mini nuncia vit Mariae
SPEAKER 01 :
At age 10, Father Andre escaped Christian massacres by living in caves in Mount Lebanon with his family. Today, Father Andre works tirelessly to encourage American leaders to keep God in the public square, defending religious freedom at home and abroad, so that all might live in peace for the glory of God. Founder and President of the Mission of Hope and Mercy, Father Andre has learned the secret to safety, joy, and peace, love God and one another. Now, let us spend 33 minutes on the Lord's Day, retuning ourselves to the truth of love in the hands of God.
SPEAKER 03 :
Praise be the most holy name of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, now and forever and ever. Amen. Let us pray, my friends. This week in the United States, mainly in Ronald Reagan National Airport in Washington, D.C., our nation definitely witnessed and suffered from a tragedy with this accident that happened between the helicopter and the passengers' airplanes. And we want to pray for the safety of the families of the victims, their psychological safety, their emotional safety. And definitely we want to pray for healing inside these families. We want to also pray for the rest of the souls of all those who perish in this terrible accident. Accidents happen in life. And you know when accidents happen in life, the human being usually, after they absorb the shock, if they ever absorb such a shock, they try to reflect. They try to reflect on the conditions, the motives, and the meaning. As a person who suffered major persecution in life, as a person who suffered also from disappointments in life, but as a person also had many successes in this life. I tell you that the best answer usually when things like this happen is to go back into our conscience, have a still the peace. Don't react. I know it is hard. I know it is hard because we as a human being stand if we have common sense, of course. If we have the right ethics, of course. If we have the right human character made of balanced intellect, emotions, thought process, a critical thought process, good desires in life, goodwill, an active will, a professional character in our life, of course, we get shocked somehow. We get absorbed a little bit by the sadness of the incident that happened. Yet at the same time, we reflect immediately after that, knowing that we need to survive. See, humanity is in mode of survival, not only in a mode of active living. Accidents are a proof that humanity is in mode of survival, depending on how large these accidents could be, right? Sometimes accidents could be personal. Sometimes they could attack multiple families. company or multiple companies, institution or multiple institutions, an entire neighborhood or an entire city, or an entire nation. An incident like the explosion that happened, unfortunately, after the two planes hit, the helicopter hit the actual commercial airplane or the passenger airplane. It's an incident that hits the states. It hits the people. It hit the skating team in the United States. It hit families. It hit the airplane companies, the U.S. government, because the helicopter hit. as a military helicopter. So it really hits us on multiple levels. And we sit and we try to wonder about the reasons. But you know, this is good to do. Yet also based on our common sense, we have immediately to pray to God and pray for one another for the safety Dozens of millions of Americans, at least only in our nation, fly on daily basis in the skies of the United States and abroad, going across oceans, plains, snow, mountains, deserts. And we fly. This is a part of our living style in the century and the century before, since aviation age in the early 1900s in the United States. Many accidents happen, but we have to always thank God for the safety of the millions who still, and cut in time short, can travel, go to see their beloved ones or go to do their businesses or go to achieve the objectives and the goals of their conferences or tourism or whatever goals they set for themselves from the travel. I think in a particular way about the people who usually travel for medical purposes to be treated in hospitals outside of their near neighborhoods, areas, to seek a specialized medicine, for instance. We pray so for the safety of all the travelers in the United States of America. Two, we have to remember that the salvation is always from the Lord. I know it is hard to believe that. I know it is hard to believe that we as human beings, even though we die, we actually will enter into life, right? We go to meet our Lord. It doesn't mean immediately we enter into paradise, right? But we are ready. We go to the place of awaiting. We go to the place of the encounter. And there we will settle our personal judgment between us and our Lord Jesus Christ there outside the spectrum of time. Have you ever thought that are multiple the reasons of death, right? Multiples are the reasons for why a human being died. But in the end, it is an absolute reality of our life that the human beings are born and the human beings die. And it is also almost the unfortunate reality of all human beings that when we die, we die, until we see the first resurrection of a human being happening. But only one man who was a son of God and is a son of God, who was a redeemer of humankind, only one man, and his name is Jesus Christ, Yeshua HaMashiach. the savior, the anointed one, the Lord and savior Jesus Christ, him alone we have seen that rose from the dead and came back to life. And he is in his glorified body and his soul and his perfect humanity and his perfect divinity in his divine blood, in his beatified and blessed human flesh rose from the dead, broke the chains of death, and he actually raised people from death themselves, even though after the passing life, they died again, awaiting the ultimate resurrection of all the mortal bodies when Christ the King comes back in the fullness of his glory to judge the living and the dead. Where am I going with all of this, my friends? Speaking about the incident that happened in Ronald Reagan National Airport on the Sunday morning show, I know it is a sad story, but it's a reason for us to reflect on the reasons of death and if we are ready to embrace what comes after death. So whether we die a happy death in our beds, like St. Joseph, we call it the happy death, or like the Virgin Mary, or even if we die from sicknesses or illnesses or old age or shortage of age, unfortunately, pain accompanies death. And to a certain level, we know that this is unfair. Have you ever thought, so this is the opportunity why I'm talking about this. The pain is so rooted in our life that even at the time of our death, pain tends to want to be the last memory that it wants us to remember it before we die. I know it's a weird statement. It's a strong statement. But I want our listeners on Good Sunday Morning with Father Andre and 33 Minutes on the Lord's Day and on this radio show to reflect a little bit and to think about how much the pain and the suffering accompany us in our life. That even at the last moment in our life when our soul leaves our body, we suffer pain. Look how much medication they do. to keep the sick people comfortable upon their deathbed. For the people also, suffering is contagious in time of death, right? So not only the person who suffers the death suffers death, but also their loved ones. They suffer the pain of the separation. They suffer the pain of the impotency, not being able to do something to change the outcome of life. They suffer the pain of compassion and of sympathy with one another. At least again, these are the normal human beings that we know in the past existed a lot, and in our days, few still exist. So the relationship between suffering and death, the relationship between the way we live our life, and if you are ready to encounter this last moment of our life, the relationship between our Creator, our Savior, and us after death. The relationship was life and death. This is what I like to cover with you and converse with you over on the Sunday morning radio show. So I want to tell you good Sunday morning, my friends, and let us spend these minutes together in praising our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and trying to to hold on to true hope, true faith, and true love, and know the best way to live our life is always to realize and to admit and to know that the salvation comes always from the Lord. But this is a salvation of the just. So my friends, Death is a , shall we say. It's this place of balance. It's this place where we have to submit our death, basically. Death is not only the death of the body where the soul leaves the body and it returns to its creator. there is an ultimate death. That ultimate death is actually the pain behind death, the pain beyond death itself. Did you ever think that even after death, when we are subjected to the final judgment by our Lord, what stays from that judgment is either eternal life and the reward of it therefore, where there is peace, there is no pain, There are no moths, no enemies, no thieves, nobody can steal, nobody can hurt us, but there is life eternal with the angels, with the glory of the most glorious Holy Trinity, the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit, with the Virgin Mary and the community of the saints. And with the beauty of the splendor of God, who in his face, in his presence, he shines upon us with the angels, a life everlasting. He is our sunlight and he is our sun. He becomes our temple in which we live. He is our dwelling place where we will dwell forever and ever. Praise in him. The image of the eternal life in the Christian theology and in the history of the saints is something amazing to look at. What eyes could not see, what ears could not hear, what minds could not perceive is what God has prepared in this eternal life for those who witnessed for him, for those who loved him, and for those God loved. Come to me, all who have labored and are burdened. Come and take my yoke, for my yoke is easy and my burden light. This is the sympathy Jesus gives to us in his sacred heart, even before we die, throughout life, to give us consolation and to ease our pain. Yet in eternal life, he tells us, come to me, O blessed of my father, come to me, O you who are blessed of my father, and inherit the kingdom prepared for you since the foundation of the world. So today on this morning with our radio show, we are reflecting because of the incident that happened in Ronald Reagan's National Airport in Washington, D.C. area. We are really trying to reflect on our readiness about our life and the way we live it, about our death, if we are ready to embrace death no matter how it comes to us. And how can we prepare not to die an eternal death after this life? And how can we prepare to live an eternal life and be rewarded with the grace of God, with the eternal reward of living in the eternal peace of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, in God the Father and in the Holy Spirit? This is the level upon which in our conversation today, I want us to rise up to, I want us to go up to. Because if we pray together in Psalm 37 today, so let us pray a little bit in Psalm 37. I want you to know it is true that all people die, right? But remember, the death of righteous ones, even though we die probably in accidents, we die, sometimes they persecute us, right? Sometimes we die from illnesses. And sometimes, as I said before, we die as a happy death. No matter how we die, we have to realize that if we lived our life in a just way, regardless of persecution, regardless of what people laid in snares against us, regardless of the tribulation we received in this life. Remember, my friends, that as Psalm 37 tells us, the salvation of the just comes from the Lord. So again, in the objective of our radio show on this Sunday morning, and again, I want to thank all those who join us every Sunday morning, on Good Sunday Morning with Father Andre, and on these 33 minutes with the Lord as we spend them together. This is Father Andre, and let us pray together with Psalm 37. The salvation of the just comes from the Lord. O God, come to my assistance. O Lord, make haste to help me. Glory be to the Father, and to the Son, and to the Holy Spirit, as it was in the beginning, is now, and ever shall be, world without end. Amen. Trust in the Lord and do good, that you may dwell in the land and be fed in security. Take delight in the Lord, and he will grant you your heart's requests. Commit to the Lord your way, trust in him, and he will act. He will make justice done for you like the light, bright as the noonday shall be your vindication. The salvation of the just comes from the Lord. By the Lord are the steps of a man made firm, and he approves his way. Though he fall, he does not lie prostrate, for the hand of the Lord sustains him. The salvation of the just is from the Lord. He is their refuge in time of distress. And the Lord helps them and delivers them. He delivers them from the wicked and saves them because they take refuge in him. The salvation of the just comes from the Lord. Glory be to the Father and to the Son and to the Holy Spirit, as it was in the beginning, is now and ever shall be, world without end. Amen. Good Holy Sunday morning, my dear friends and dear beloved brothers and sisters in our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. It's amazing you saw and I hope you heard with intensity this wonderful, wonderful prayer that we prayed together from the Psalm 39. It's amazing, actually. Remember, God has merciful love, right? Remember, God receives us. in the midst of His temple as well. Remember that God makes His dwelling in our body. Listen, we are so privileged as human beings if we know how to live in relationship with the Holy Spirit and with our faith as Christians. Can you imagine Jesus Christ told us that we become actually the indwelling of the Holy Spirit? Isn't that something? Isn't that amazing? Can you believe that the Lord makes not only his dwelling in us, but Jesus Christ said, I'm knocking the door of your heart. If you let me in, I bring my father and I shall dwell in you. Wow. Wow. No matter what happens in our lives, my friends, sickness is horrible. Persecution is terrible. And when people decide to hurt us, you can only defend yourselves. We shall rise and rise again until lambs become lions. Yes, we have the lion in us, the lion of Judah. His name is our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. Yet we do recognize that we are like sheep, like lambs led to the slaughter, and we do not open our mouth, just like Jesus Christ, just like the prophet Isaiah foretold, like a lamb led to the slaughter and sheep before shearers. He was silent and did not open his mouth, tells us the prophet. Yet with that, my friend, The Lord teaches us character. He raises up to be heroes in our faith, to give a testimony on his behalf that no matter how much persecution and falsehood there is around us, no matter how much political witch hunt there is around us, no matter how much people, sometimes including our own leaders, the leaders in our religions or the leaders of our faith or the leaders in our nation that we ourselves voted for or accepted as our leaders. They cheat us, right? They end up serving their own desires. They end up abusing their offices and not doing what is right. They end up beating the little servants of the Lord. These are examples that Jesus Christ warned us about in the gospel. He says, who is the faithful servant? who is the faithful and good servant of mine, who upon return the master sees him given food in time to his other friends, to his other brothers and sisters, the servants of the Lord. Yet the Lord Jesus says as well, but if the master of the house comes and he finds that slave, squandering the money with the prostitutes and beating the other servants of the lord and spending time with the drunkards and doing fornications and all sorts of abominations you know the lord is gonna kill that man he's gonna slaughter him in his own hands We do actually see in our days how bishops, sometimes the popes, sometimes religious leaders, and nations leaders, kings and queens in history, popes in history, and leaders of all sorts, how they abused the power that was given to them, how they abused their office, how they abused the law. Today in the US, and also unfortunately, in the realm of the church, we speak about the law affairs, right? The law affairs. And we speak about canon law affairs. We speak about Vatican affairs. You know, we speak about leaks. We speak about how the agencies and institutions of the governments and the institutions of the church have been weaponized, have been weaponized so gravely. Woe to those people who have weaponized the tools and the reflection of the divine justice that God put in our hands in order to give us life, not in order to condemn, not in order to slander, not in order to falsely accuse, not in order to persecute, not in order to give death instead of life. Woe to those stewards who the Lord has given to them the opportunity power from above to judge for the sake of life, to judge for the sake of goodness, to judge for the sake of peace, to judge for the sake of mercy. Yet they end up using this authority or this power that was given to them from God to dismantle the flock of the Lord, to hurt the citizens over whom they were given authority. and to put their own people in jails with no mercy, and to cancel their own ministers, to cancel their own people. and not giving them the rights to life and to worship and to the freedom of conscience and to the freedom of exercising the right of equal rights, equal protections, equal opportunity, just like anyone else in this life. The abuse of the governments, my friends, against their own people, the abuse of the law and weaponizing the law, weaponizing the media, weaponizing the canon laws of the churches, weaponizing the internal laws of religion to use them in order to justify killing in the name of God, hurting somebody in the name of God. and canceling somebody in the name of the law. Trust me, my friends, these people will be severely judged by God, for they have not been faithful to what has been given to them in their hands. And there is an authority to give life and the power to share the gift of life and mercy and peace with the others. Instead of serving justice, they weaponize it by lying and by giving wrong outcomes to the law. Instead of applying the rules of the law in order to create a real peace and to manage the life of society in a real way so that people will know equally they are protected, they end up abusing this law to practice favoritism and to apply narcissism. Be careful, my friends, of narcissism. We want to pray today in our world that the conscience of these leaders does not continue embracing a real death. because they inflict a pain upon us. Just like the incident we learned from when an airplane falls from the sky and those who were on it, they all perished. My friends, sometimes we in this life, we live in a nation or we live in a given religion and sometimes our own captains, our own leaders, not by fault of accident, unfortunately, like the accident that happened in DC, but by a personal intended fault, By decisive evil decision they make, they actually lead their flock to death. And these people we have to be careful of and we have to stop giving them power by not consenting to their abuses. But run to the true shepherd, our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. With that, we say amen. And don't forget to continue your support to the missionofhopeandmercy.org. Please make sure you always go to missionofhopeandmercy.org and support the good work we're doing on your behalf with the persecuted Christians in the Middle East and to promote and protect the Christians' presence in Lebanon and elsewhere in the world. And now, my friends, we shall continue with our radio show as we prayed. You know, I'd like us to speak a little bit about the error of communism. So we're trying to draw the symbolism, this relationship between the incident of the airplane in Washington, D.C., over which we spoke a lot. And unfortunately, this incident rendered many families very sad. Our heart goes to these families, really, with the fullness of compassion, sympathy, and we ask the Lord to grant trust to all of these faithful departed who have died in this incident, that they will be embraced by God's mercy. And when God comes to judge them, according each to their own deeds, God will look to them with his eye of mercy. And if any one of them had done and accomplished evil things during their days, we offer the sacrifice of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, trusting that the judgment of God is a judgment that is good, a judgment that sees and seeks and wants to give life and not death. And in all of that symbolism, we're also establishing that sometimes we in a given nation, like in the United States of America, it is similar almost as if we are taking a ride on a plane, right? And if we are members of a church, it is also as we are in a ship. You know, one of the old, old images of the church is that the church looks like a big ship and all the faithful people on it. And these faithful people on a ship, they have to synchronize. They have to act together. Every one of them is a part of leading the ship with the captain until the ship across, cross through the stormy seas and arrives to the safe harbor or to the harbor of safety. Today, the church could resemble also an airplane, right? That is driven by a captain. Yet each and every one of us still have to do their job. You know, they tell you on the plane, you don't take explosives, right? You have a steward on a plane who's supposed to give you the food when you need to help us, to serve us, to indicate the rules of safety for us, to make sure that our time of travel is actually easy. Sometimes you have paramedics and you have areas where they treat people to a certain extent to make sure that until a safe landing is happening, people, if they suffer some sort of accidents on a plane, they are taken care of to the extent of what is possible. Life is like this. It's like a big ship. It's like a large, big airplane. Yes, and there are captains in this life. There are captains in the church known as popes or known as ministers and pastors, cardinals and bishops and archbishops, entities who support and help these entities, such as charities instituted by the church and in the name of the church, you know, Christian charities such as Catholic charities or such as Protestant charities programs, or diocesan charities programs, they're supposed actually to engage in distributing from the goods that we have on earth and from the gifts that we give to the church, that they will redistribute them for the poor, for the oppressed, for the weary, and for the unfortunate, for the homeless, for the sick, for the widows, for the orphans, for the education, for all those who are less fortunate than the rest of us. And they're supposed to, in such a way, everybody will receive it from the gift of God, each according to the measure, and each according to their needs, and nobody goes hungry. Yet I wonder, with all these existing formal charity programs of the big churches and the big parishes, you know, sometimes they end up spending, and now we now realize, you know, sometimes an organ in a parish costs millions of dollars. Do you know that? Well, there are many poor people. we would wonder about those things. Sometimes, while even inside the same parish school in a given parish, many families cannot have their children attend the private education inside the parochial school, even though this family probably supports and go to these parishes. the parish for years and years. And sometimes since our fathers and our mothers and our grandparents and ancestors times, many families still live and die within the same boundaries of the same parish. Sometimes parish decide to build the hall that costs $4 million, $5 million instead of bringing more children into their school. Sometimes in our charity programs, as we see, and we are seeing this scandal from the Catholic charities and other institutions, you know, where 85,000 children were missing amongst the illegal people who crossed the borders, children, unaccompanied minors, and God knows what's been happening on the southern borders in the U.S., and why these Christian charities engaged and asked for the money, not only from the government, they took money, but from us in appeals, from the people in appeals. They take funds, and then they go under support, the human trafficking and they allow the exploitation of these children. Unfortunately, my friends, the pilots of our churches, the big pilots on high level, probably at this point, their destination may not necessarily be to take us towards God. The destination may not no longer be to give food and bread to those who are poor and to heal the brokenhearted in time. They have become the leaders of the problem. They are part of the problem. They have become almost tyrants themselves, yet they still have on themselves the image of the shepherds. Remember what Jesus Christ told us. He warned us. Behold, be aware and beware of those who come to you as wolves yet in lamb skins. These are fake shepherds, my friends. So with this, I want us to just meditate upon all of this and think about it all. We as true and good Christians, first of all, go back to your conscience. Act as being just a people in your life. Do not condemn, do not judge, yet discern and observe and seek the light of the Holy Spirit that through the critical truth we will make a clear distinction between what is sin and what is evil, yet we still embrace the light of God that heals and that gives us pardon, forgiveness of sins, mercy, justice, and life everlasting, of course, for us and for all our loved ones. This is Father Andre. Please go to our website, missionofhopeandmercy.org, and please continue to support the good work that the mission has been doing. Thanks to you and on your behalf. Almighty God, bless us all. Protect us from all evil. Forgive us our sins and bring us all to peace, joy, and victory in our Lord Jesus Christ and to everlasting life. Amen.
SPEAKER 01 :
Thank you for listening to 33 Minutes on the Lord's Day. To hear previous programs, visit the show page at missionofhopeandmercy.org. Listen to Father Andre every Sunday morning at 7.30 on KLZ as he speaks on the unity of Christians, religious freedom, and the biblical foundation of Judeo-Christian values and traditions. Join him in bringing hope and freedom to people across the globe while also strengthening your own faith, family, and community right here in Colorado. Reawaken the spiritual strength of America. Go to missionofhopeandmercy.org.
In this inspiring episode, Rick Hughes invites listeners on a journey to discover the virtues of patience and forbearance as cornerstones of spiritual maturity. Drawing from biblical teachings, this episode sheds light on the importance of patience with both people and circumstances, and how this divine quality can transform personal and spiritual relationships. Don't miss Rick's practical advice on maintaining a relaxed mental attitude and waiting on God's perfect timing in life's trials.
SPEAKER 01 :
Welcome to the Flatline with your host, Rick Hughes. For the next 30 minutes, you'll be inspired, motivated, educated, but never manipulated. Now, your host, Rick Hughes.
SPEAKER 02 :
Good morning and welcome to the Flatline. I'm your host, Rick Hughes. And for the next few minutes, I'd like to give you a cordial invitation to stay tuned. Stick with me. About 30 minutes of motivation, some inspiration, some education. And we always do that without any solicitation. That means we're not going to be asking you for any money. We're not going to ask you to join up, fess it up, give it up. We're just going to ask you to listen up. Because my job is to verify and identify God's plan for your life. And if you want to orient and adjust to the plan, that's up to you. You have that freedom to choose to do so. But I will get it right. I'll be accurate. I'll make sure you understand what the Bible has to say in regards to these things we'll study today. The flotline, the forward line of troops, F-L-O-T, is a military metaphor. And it's all about you building up inside your soul an invisible defensive barrier called a flotline. made up of 10 unique problem-solving devices. When you learn these biblical problem-solving devices, then you can stop the outside sources of adversity before they ever become the inside sources of stress. Because we know adversity is obviously inevitable, but stress is actually preventable. It's optional. You don't have to have stress. That's what's so unique about the Christian life. It's a unique way to live with no worry, no fear, no guilt, no bitterness. It's a different way to live. And so I try to remind you of these biblical truths and introduce you to this new way of studying God's Word, digging in and learning God's Word without any type of manipulation. So it starts, first of all, with the great news, the wonderful news that Jesus Christ, the anointed Son of God, has redeemed all of us out of the slave market of sin. That means he paid the price for our sin, paid the penalty for our sin. He who knew no sin was made sin for us so that we might be made the righteousness of God through him is what the Bible says. So when we receive Jesus Christ as our Savior, we in effect accept the great grace offering he made for us on our behalf, the free gift of eternal life, compliments of the grace of God. Ephesians 2, 8 and 9, for by grace are you saved through faith, and that not of yourselves is a gift from God and not of works, lest any man would brag about it. So the death and the burial of Jesus Christ and his ultimate resurrection demonstrated to us that he was, in fact, indeed the Son of God, and that what he says to you is true. You can believe it. You can trust it. He's not a lunatic. He's not a liar. He is the Son of God. And Titus 3, 5 says, not by works of righteousness, which we've done, but according to his mercy, he saved us. By the washing of regeneration, that's making us into new people, and the renewing of the Holy Spirit, that's the Holy Spirit coming to live inside of you. which he shed on us abundantly through Christ our Lord, and that being justified by means of his grace, not works, grace, we would be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life. There it is. It's a wonderful free gift from God. Today we want to take a look at something that's very critical for Christians, critical for us to understand. It's probably, if there are two doctrines that most Christians never really hear taught on, One of them is arrogance, sins of arrogance, and how arrogance goes from self-justification to self-deception to self-absorption to eventually self-destruction. Very few pastors ever really preach on arrogance. They may preach on sin, but they might not preach on the sin of arrogance. The other one that you very rarely hear any pastor, any evangelist, anybody write a book about is called patience. Patience in the Bible is a wonderful virtue. It's a great virtue, and I'd like to talk to you about that today and to challenge you in regards to your lack of patience. In Psalm 37, seven, we have these words written by David. Rest in the Lord, rest. That's a word that stands for having a relaxed mental attitude. This is one of the great things about the Christian life, having an RMA, a relaxed mental attitude. If you have a relaxed mental attitude, that means you're thinking divine viewpoint. You're orienting to the grace of God. So rest, and then we have the prepositional phrase, in the Lord. Rest in the Lord, and then wait patiently for him. Rest and wait, two great, fantastic verbs there. Wait patiently, and that's the faith rest drill. That's a promise of God. That's one of our promises of the 10 problem-solving devices. Problem-solving device number three is the faith rest drill. By the way, we have a book that lists all 10 of these problem-solving devices for you. It's called Christian Problem Solving. It's absolutely free. All you got to do is write and say, send me the book and we'll get it right out to you. Never send you, ask you for any money and never write you again unless you ask for something. So rest and wait. Two key words for him, for you. Have a relaxed mental attitude. wait in him on faith and then I read it again rest in the Lord and wait patiently for him fret not thyself because of him who prospers in his way because of the man who brings wicked devices to pass and so David saying don't worry about the evil man don't worry about what he does let the Lord handle it just rest and wait on God to handle the difficulties and the adversities that you face in your life If I read it in a different translation, the New Living Translation, it says this, be still, that means don't run ahead of God, be still in the presence of the Lord and wait patiently, there's the word again, for him to act. Don't worry about evil people who prosper or fret about their wicked schemes. The Old Testament Hebrew word for patience is hul, spelled C-H-U-W-L, hul. And by definition, the word patience means this. It's the capacity or the habit of enduring evil, enduring adversity, enduring pain with some sort of fortitude. It's you having forbearance under stress, under provocation, or under indignity. And to deal with this, the Bible uses three different words in the Greek New Testament. Remember, the New Testament was written in Greek. The Old Testament was written in Aramaic and Hebrew. But the three different words for patience in the New Testament are very interesting. And that's what I'd like to run by you right now. Because anytime you see the word patience in the Bible, it's going to be one of these three words in the New Testament. One of the three. So if you just go to the index of your Bible and look up patience and see all the verses that have patience in it, you'll see if you know the Greek language that it's one of these three words. And each one means something different. We only translate it into one word in the English, patience. But it means something different in the Greek. So let's take a look at it. The first word for patience, I'll go to Hebrews 12, one. Because seeing that we are also compassed about with so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight that doth beset us and run the race that is easily in front of us run the race with patience in other words that run the race or the circumstances that we face we have to be able to handle that so again listen to it again wherefore seeing we also are compassed about with so great a cloud of witnesses Let us lay aside every weight and the sin which doth so easily beset us, and let us run with patience the race or the circumstances we face that is set before us. Run with patience. There it is again. The word patience in this verse is a Greek word pronounced hupomeno. Hupo Mino. And actually, Hupo Mone, but it's from the Greek word Mino. Hupo Mone, I'll spell it for you. H-U-P-O, Hupo Mone, M-O-N-E. It's a compound verb and it means hupo is under and meno is to abide. So it's hupo meno or hupo mone, to abide under. And this has to do with, listen, the circumstances you face in your life. You must have patience with circumstances. You must be steadfast, you must be consistent, you must be endurance, you must have that. And that's the key to living the Christian life. You can't get knocked off balance. You can't get knocked out of shape. You got to be able to be stable, firm, and secure in your Christian life. Hupomone, Hebrews 12.1. Then we go another verse, another word that we see is macrothumia. Macrothumia. And that's a compound word from macros, that is the word long, and thumos, which is temper. And so this word is translated long-suffering. Long-suffering. It means to have longanimity or to be patient with people. So hupomone is patience under circumstances, and macrothumia is to be patient with people. I was looking this word up, studying this word, and found that a couple of famous biblical scholars in the 1800s said this about it. They stated, this is Abbott and Smith and Trench, that the hupomone word expresses patience with regard to adverse circumstances. And macrothumia expresses regards to patients with antagonistic people. So it's the same thing I just told you. One's patient with people, macrothumia. One's patient with circumstances, hupomone. And then you got to ask the question was how does my patients grow? Because there's one more word for patients too. We'll get to that here in just a second. But how does your patience grow? Well, in trials, the Bible tells us in Luke 21, 15 through 19, where you have patience over your emotions in testing. You don't let your emotions take control of you. You have patience over your emotions. Your patience grows in undeserved suffering. 1 Peter 2, 20, where you respond, not react to the pressure. See, anytime something happens, a trial or some undeserved suffering, you can react with anger, frustration, bitterness, or you can respond with wait and be patient, rest and wait. Rest, relax mental attitude, wait patiently, faith rest drill. So if you're going to respond, you're going to have an RMA and use a faith rest drill. If you don't, then you're gonna get into panic palace and you're gonna try to handle it yourself. If God puts you under testing, it's designed to teach you patience in circumstances. Another way your patience is developed in the spiritual life is James 1.4. It's developed to reach spiritual maturity. You can't be a spiritually mature believer until you become patient with people and with circumstances. in second thessalonians 3 5 the lord direct your hearts into the love of god and into patience of christ patience of christ is divine viewpoint thinking it's having the same mind that he had if there was anybody that was ever patient it's the lord jesus christ dealing with the disciples we know them as the apostles we know them as amazing men of god but To tell you the truth, he probably knew them as a bunch of knuckleheads. I mean, you got a group of fishermen, a couple of tax collectors, you know, you got whatever else you had in the middle of all that mix, and here they were. And they were hard-headed. They didn't get along with each other. They competed for attention. They wanted the best seat in the... kingdom when it came. And the Lord was very patient with these men, developing them, bringing them along, teaching them the divine way of thinking to have the same mind that he had. So Paul eventually wrote back to Timothy and wrote these words in Colossians 1, 9 through 11. For this reason, We also, since the day we heard it, don't cease to pray for you and to ask that you may be filled with the knowledge of his will and all wisdom and spiritual understanding so that you may walk worthy of the Lord, fully pleasing him, being fruitful in every good work and increasing in the knowledge of God. Now, he's actually writing this letter to the church at Colossae. And listen to this last verse 11 of Colossians 1.11. Strengthened with all might, according to his glorious power, this is the Holy Spirit, combined with the word of God in your soul, for all patience and long-suffering with joy. So, Paul uses both words here, hupomone and macrothymia. Strengthened with all might, that's the Holy Spirit and God's word resident in your soul, according to his glorious power, for all, hupomone and macrothumia, patience with people, patience with circumstances, but the last two words, with joy. Not complaining, not being bitter, not griping, with joy. The next word we want to look at in the Bible for patience is the word anoke, A-N-O-C-H-E, anoke. Anoke is translated forbearance. It means to hold back. It's a delay of punishment. It's a quality of self-restraint in the face of provocation, which does not hastily retaliate or promptly punish. It's the opposite of anger, and it's associated with mercy. Listen as I describe God having forbearance. Anoke, 1 Peter 3.20, God waited in the days of Noah while the ark was being prepared, in which eight souls were saved by water. God waited, God had forbearance, anoke. Romans 2.4, or despiseth thou the riches of his goodness and the forbearance and longsuffering, not knowing that the goodness of God leads to repentance, Paul wrote. Forbearance, anoke, longsuffering, macrophamia, this is God being patient with people. Being patient with people, patient with me, patient with you, not getting frustrated when we fail, not getting frustrated when we sin, not giving up on us, not throwing us under the bus, not turning his back on us, but patiently loving us. Do you despise the riches of his goodness and his forbearance and his long-suffering, his patiently waiting on us, dealing with all us weirdos? Don't we know the goodness of God leads to repentance, the verse says? Here's the principle. Patience avoids emotional sins and frustrations in your life. If you have divine patience, you won't be letting your emotions run your life, control your life, and you won't be getting frustrated. Two, patience maintains confidence in God's perfect timing. Not your timing, his timing, God's perfect timing. See, God has a right time and a right place. You may make it up, but it might not be his time. It's true in prayer. You can ask what you want, but it might not be the right time that God want to give it to you. Number three, your faith will be tested, and through it, your patience will increase. This is what God does. He tests us. He teaches us. This is how we grow, and we have to patiently wait on the answer. We have to patiently seek his will. And four, patience is divine good production that is rewardable at the judgment seat of Christ. This will surprise you, but patience is divine good, and it can be gold, silver, or precious stone. It is actually part of the filling of the Holy Spirit, patience is. So if you demonstrate patience in your life, it's rewardable in eternity. God will reward you for that under 1 Corinthians 3, verses 11 through 16. Wood, hay, and stubble are gold, silver, and precious stones. That patience that you demonstrated with your wife or with your husband, with your children, with your church friends, that's rewardable. You didn't go off the handle. You didn't get mad. You didn't fly into a rage. You didn't yell at them and scream at them. You waited patiently for them to get it straight and understand it. So Paul writes in Titus 2 that Timothy is to teach sound doctrine so the older men in the congregation will learn patience among other important doctrines. I'll read it to you. Titus 2, 1 and 2. But as for you, dear Timothy, in other words, speak the things that are proper for solid, sound doctrine. Not weird stuff. Solid, sound doctrine. That's one of the things happening in our country today. Men and women have moved away from solid, sound doctrine. And we've gone for the weird stuff. But as for you, speak the things which are proper for sound doctrine, so that, or in order that, the older men be sober. Now, that's a metaphor for being in good health. That means their spiritual life is free from error. It's not necessarily talking about not be drunk. that they'd be sober, which means they'd be under self-control, that they'd be reverent or dignified, and they'd be temperate in control of their senses, curbing their desires, curbing their impulses. So that's the first three things. Teach sound doctrine so the older men who have a tendency to lose their self-control won't lose it. who have a tendency not to act very dignified will act dignified and have a tendency to not curb their desires will in fact curb their desires. The word of God gives you the power to obey these things, to control yourself, to act dignified and curb your desires. So then he goes on to say, and that they may be sound in faith, in love, and in patience. Faith and love, faith and sound in faith, sound in love, sound in patience. So this is what Timothy is supposed to teach God, sound, solid words, so that the older men in the congregation, and you know if you go to a church where the older men are, this could be them. Sound words. who gay I know is the Greek word sound who gay I know that means healthy spiritually not given to error that means not letting their emotions take over and try to tell you that a great Christian is somebody that cries and comes to the altar every night that's not necessarily true great Christians may cry and come to the altar but that doesn't make you a great Christian that they would be sound in faith, doctrine they've learned, doctrine they've applied. It doesn't do you any good to learn it if you don't apply it. You have to learn and apply if you're going to glorify. And that's the old saying, LAG, L-A-G, learn it, apply it, and glorify God. So they need to be sound in faith, sound in love, understanding what it means to abide in his love, where Jesus said, if you abide in my love and my word abides in you and you abide in me, I mean, this is the most amazing study. If you don't understand personal and impersonal love as part of the problem-solving devices, it's impossible for you to live effectively the Christian life while you're in the devil's world. you must understand personal and impersonal love. And these things are in the book in a brief way, not a very in-depth way. But personal love is your motivational virtue why you obey God. If you love me, you will obey me, and my mandates are not hard, 1 John 5, 3. Impersonal love is you reciprocating the love of God to those that you're around And you love them based on who you are, not based on who they are. It's the same way God loved you. He loved you based on his character, not yours. If you think God loved you because you're a wonderful person, you're out in left field. You were a sinner, lost, on your way to hell. But he loved you so much that he sent his son to die for you, to take your place, to be punished in your steed. And by means of his death and the burial and eventually his resurrection, where he walked out of there alive, he demonstrated. that he indeed paid the price. Understanding God's love is critical for any Christian because it's not an emotional thing. It's a spiritual thing you must know. If you don't understand it, let me know. Let me get you some material on it. Let me tell you where you can go to study it because there are some great pastors that have taught a lot on this, and it will change your life once you understand personal and impersonal love. So sound in faith, sound in love, sound in patience. Hupomone, patience with circumstances. That's the patience the older men need. They don't like change. They don't want change. They don't like this new preacher. They don't like that. They don't like the way the young people came in there and want to change the church or do this, do that. You know, if there's one thing older people are sometimes is not very patient because they know they don't have a lot of time left and they want to get it done, get it done now. Not every old person is willing to go out and sit under the juniper tree and fish for a brim, you know. They want to get it going. So humility, objectivity, and patience all combine to bring into focus the faith rest drill in your life. Humility, you have enough humility to listen to a qualified pastor teach you the word of God. Objectivity, you're not subjective. You don't take everything personal. And then patiently you grow day after day, moment by moment, week after week, until you begin to replicate the life of Christ. Patience is a divine characteristics of a merciful savior and it should be your characteristic too. Paul taught this in Colossians 1.10 through 12. Some of the concepts of the mission God assigned to us is to walk worthy of our Lord, to be fully pleasing to him, to be fruitful, to increase in knowledge, to be strengthened with his might of all of his glory, for all patience and longsuffering with joy. There it is again, patience with people, patience with circumstances, and to have joy in the spite of all of this. So the Holy Spirit is the only one that can produce this sort of patience in the form of relaxed mental attitude, which is where the joy comes from. Arrogant people don't have any patience. Arrogant people don't have any joy. Arrogant people don't have any impersonal love. Arrogant people are going to be losers in time. Not in eternity. They have eternal life. They will be there. But in time, they're losing out on all their rewards. They're losing out on any opportunity to glorify God. They're losing out on any true, wonderful, genuine friendships in Christ because they're not patient with people or with circumstances. God is long-suffering, not wanting any to perish. That's the anoke word I showed you. So remember this. When you read the Bible, you will see the word patience, and it will be one of those three words, macrothumia, hupomone, or anoke. All right? I hope you enjoyed it. I hope you learned something today, and I hope you'll come back next week. Same time, same place. Until then, I'm your host, Rick Hughes, saying thank you for listening to The Flatline.
SPEAKER 01 :
Thank you for listening to The Floodline with your host, Rick Hughes. If you'd like to contact Rick, please write to him at P.O. Box 100, Cropwell, Alabama, 35054, or online at www.rickhughesministries.org.
Join Mike Gallagher as he unpacks a series of contentious hearings in American politics, filled with partisan theatrics and deep-rooted tensions. Gallagher analyzes the performances of key figures like Kash Patel and Tulsi Gabbard, offering an unfiltered critique of what he perceives as the political establishment's charades. Listeners are invited to explore the intricate web of policy, public perception, and the pressures of conforming to mainstream narratives. In a narrative twist, Gallagher provides a touching look into personal challenges and losses, sharing moments that reflect the universality of grief amidst chaos. This segment serves as a poignant reminder of the human stories often overshadowed by political discourse. The episode closes with a hard-hitting discussion on DEI policies in federal hiring practices, particularly within the FAA. Gallagher and his guests argue for a reassessment of these initiatives, prioritizing safety and meritocracy. With robust debates and emotional insights, this episode is a compelling listen for those interested in the intersection of politics, personal stories, and public safety.
SPEAKER 05 :
He's the happy conservative warrior. From the Relief Factor Studios, here's Mike Deller.
SPEAKER 11 :
If you watched the confirmation hearings yesterday of Kash Patel or Tulsi Gabbard, if you tuned in to any of the Bobby Kennedy Jr. hearings, you got infuriated because the jig is up. They have zero interest in hearing any answers. It's not an advice and consent process. The procedure is totally bogus. Their intent is to rage against Trump's picks. That's all it's about. That's all it's about. And they admitted it. And they were all foaming at the mouth. I mean, rabid dogs don't behave this way. From Pocahontas to Bernie, railing about the onesies. Lunatics. Sheldon Whitehouse had a contentious back and forth with Kash Patel, who treated them all like a boss. Kash Patel was... Tulsi Gabbard did fine. Bobby Kennedy was great. Yeah, let's rail against the guy who wants to make America healthy. Oh, no, we can't have that. He might be a vaccine skeptic. I heard my buddy Chris DeGaulle this morning out of Philly, our new morning host, on Salem Media Group, many stations around the country heard Chris do a splendid monologue about how Republicans like Susan Collins are brainwashed into thinking that if you exhibit any skepticism about vaccines, you're a nut, you're a lunatic, you ought to be in an institution. That's how Susan Collins and these establishment people think. They're weak people. Democrats are, by and large, weak people. They want to be told how many masks they must wear and how many shots they've got to get in their arm. And if you don't go along with that, you're a conspiracy theorist. And Susan Collins is right up there with the rest of them. Surprise, Susan Collins doesn't wear a mask in the hearings, like some of them do. Sheldon Whitehouse, check out this exchange. This is with Kash Patel, and this guy demonstrated and proved he doesn't want to hear any response verbally from the FBI nominee. Check this out.
SPEAKER 10 :
Is that you, Kash Patel, re-truthed, re-posting that at the top of that page?
SPEAKER 01 :
Senator, I had nothing to do with the creation of that meme.
SPEAKER 10 :
Is that you reposting it was my question. And that's me at the top. You said FBI agents were responsible for the violence on January 6th, and I quote you here, beyond a reasonable doubt. Is that what you said? That's completely incorrect, and I appreciate the opportunity to address that. I'll give you an opportunity in writing, but this is my time now.
SPEAKER 11 :
Now, did you hear that? He asked him a question. Did you say such and so? Thank you for the opportunity to address it. I'd like to answer. He says, I don't want to hear your answer. This is my time. You can send me an e-mail. That's extraordinary. This is not advice and consent. This is garbage. These hearings are a total waste of time. Play it again, Christian. From the beginning, let me again let you hear this reprehensible, disgusting, unprofessional United States senator who admitted he doesn't want to hear this guy give any answer to any of his questions.
SPEAKER 10 :
Is that you, Kash Patel, re-truthed, re-posting that at the top of that page?
SPEAKER 01 :
Senator, I had nothing to do with the creation of that.
SPEAKER 10 :
Is that you re-posting it was my question. And that's me at the top. You said FBI agents were responsible for the violence on January 6th, and I quote you here, beyond a reasonable doubt. Is that what you said? That's completely incorrect, and I appreciate the opportunity to address that. I'll give you an opportunity in writing, but this is my time now.
SPEAKER 11 :
I'll give you an opportunity in writing, but this is my time to talk. Well, hey, dummy, you just asked him the question. Did you say that? He's trying to tell you why it's wrong, and you're not giving him the opportunity to respond. These people are a joke. These people are fools. And any Republican who votes against Kash Patel, any Republican who votes against Tulsi Gabbard, any Republican who votes against Bobby Kennedy, we're going to come after every one of you in primary. And I'm serious. I am so fired up about this. I'm livid. And for Susan Collins or Lisa Murzkowski or Mitch McConnell or John Cornyn or Lindsey Graham or any of them to go along with this obscenity of a hearing and vote these guys down, we're going to move heaven and earth to get you defeated. Because you're a bigger part of the problem than even these despicable Democrats. Fired Up Friday. Welcome in. We're in the Relief Factor studios. It's the final day of the month, January 31st. Welcome in. Our number is 800-655-MIKE. 800-655-6453. One phone number does it all. If you want to call and come on air with me, I hope you will. If you want to text us on the MyPillow text line, hope you do that too. 800-655-6453. Your voice, your perspective, your call coming up. What you do.
SPEAKER 04 :
I will always be around. Won't you tell me what you found, girl?
SPEAKER 11 :
I want to welcome some brand new partners to the Mike Gallagher show like Equity Protect. And this is a big, big deal. Your home's title is often the most valuable thing you own. Next generation criminal technology is more advanced than ever. I've been an identity theft victim. It is no fun. You got to have Equity Protect in your corner. If you own your home mortgage-free or you got a lot of equity, you got to have Equity Protect so that scammers do not steal your equity or title. For a limited time, Equity Protect is offering you a tremendous deal, 30% off your first year, giving you one year of protection for less than $12 a month. Just go to EquityProtect.com. Use the discount code Mike30. That's EquityProtect.com. Use the promo code Mike30. Once you have Equity Protect, you don't need to check. Trust the team at Equity Protect. Go to EquityProtect.com and use the promo code Mike30.
SPEAKER 05 :
He's the happy conservative warrior. From the Relief Factor Studios, here's Mike Geller.
SPEAKER 11 :
It's been quite a week, and I'm honored that we've been able to break it all down together, you and me, every single day on this show. What a time to be alive. What a time to have a show. What a time to be an American. And, of course, we go through highs and lows together. Clearly, the air crash disaster was a low point for aviation, for commercial aviation, for the military. Something went terribly wrong. And something sort of went wrong for me yesterday. And I want to relate this to you and share with you how sometimes I have bad luck. And look, we all have good days and bad days. So yesterday, as all the conspiracy theories were swirling around about the collision between the Black Hawk helicopter and the American Airlines jet, I said it was despicable for Democrats to blame Trump for the crash. I said on this show, it's really not a good idea as they're... still retrieving bodies from the Potomac to politicize a disaster like this. And then I threw in, for good measure, it's not a great idea even for our side to bring up DEI now and whether or not DEI played a role in this plane crash. Then, of course, it was time to say, let's go live now to the White House and we bring you President Trump. addressing the plane crash. And as you know by now, after asking for unity and a moment of silence, which was very respectful and classy, he launched into an anti-DEI tirade, blaming the Biden and Obama administrations for lowering standards and having DEI protocols that are making our skies less safe. So as expected, I got some flack for that. I was joking after it happened. I said, look, it looks like I could maybe come up with another career path. You know, I've always thought about retiring in South Carolina. Maybe I could, I wonder if that land where BB's Restaurant and Drive-Thru on Lawrence Road used to sit, maybe I could reopen BB's and rename it Mike Gallagher's BB's and, you know, sell cheeseburgers. Now that, you know, this talk show business hasn't worked out. I was kidding, of course, but it wasn't my favorite moment. But I got an email from a listener that I want to share with you. And it kind of focused me on what Trump said and, frankly, what I said. The emailer is a guy named Gordon. He says, Mike, I write my first email to you as a lifelong political independent at age 75 who, at my core, is not a fan of either party. I heard you yesterday at the beginning of your show state that anyone who politicizes Wednesday's plane crash tragedy needs help. I don't know if you were surprised later in the day to hear Trump do exactly that. It's my expectation that on Friday's show you will call him out being just as guilty as anyone else who lacked the decency to avoid that kind of rhetoric so soon after the crash. Gordon goes on to say, First, his mouth gets him into trouble almost daily. He's incapable of being able to properly filter his thoughts as a president should before he speaks them. Second, he has a weakness that almost all politicians have. He's not strong and secure enough to go back and admit that he ever makes a mistake in what he says or does. Now, Gordon's email has focused me. And it's going to allow me to, with clarity... defend what Trump did yesterday, and let me tell you why. It's not my favorite thing to talk about DEI so soon, but what people like Gordon fail to recognize about Donald Trump is that his supposed weakness is his strength. It's his superpower. And the Gordons of the world who want a nicey-nicey, conventional, traditional president never get this about Donald Trump. They never understand that this is a man who was shot. who was indicted and convicted of 34 bogus felony charges in a sham of a trial. This is a guy who they have tried to destroy financially. This is a man whose wife's underwear drawer was raided and his son's bedroom was turned inside out. There is not a single person in the universe, in the history of America, who would have been able to take all of that and win the presidency twice. No one would be capable of the kind of success that he has had in winning over the American people. Nobody. There isn't a person alive in the history of America who would have been elected president after the entire government was weaponized against him to try to take him down, including nearly killing him. Who am I? I'm a big mouth with a talk show. Nobody shot me. Nobody's convicted me. Nobody's tried to ruin my life. in an effort to keep people from voting for me, and that's all the weaponization was about. So, Gordon, I appreciate your thoughtful email, but you just don't get it. You don't get him, and you don't get the American people. What he did yesterday, as uncomfortable as anybody might be about it, is how he got elected. He gives two craps, Gordon, about what you or I think about the timing of his justifiable outrage at DEI policies. If you're going to tell me that it makes sense to hire a blind person or a totally deaf person or somebody with severe... psychiatric disabilities as an air traffic controller, I'm going to say what Trump said. You're goofy. I'm going to agree with Donald Trump. That's going to change. I'm going to agree with this man who said, no more. We're not going to look for dwarfs to work in the air traffic control office. And that's exactly what the Biden and Obama administrations were doing. That's precisely what Pete Buttigieg committed to do. We're going to find people with severe psychiatric problems. 3% of the workforce will be people with targeted, severe disabilities. President Trump's point is, and I will paraphrase, that's bullcrap. Never expected we'd have to hit the dump button yesterday, but we did over a president. But President Trump said Pete Buttigieg is bull crap, and he didn't use the word crap. But he's right. And what you perceive, Gordon, and people like you, to be Donald Trump's weakness... is precisely why he's the 47th president of the United States. And you're going to have to cope, and you're going to have to seethe, and you can whine about his running of his mouth all you want. It's the running of his mouth that won over enough people to easily get him re-elected in November of 2024. There it is. That's my response to Gordon and to anybody who wanted to criticize me. And I don't mind the criticism. Look, again, not my favorite thing to talk about DEI or talk about hiring freezes when bodies are still in the river. But I'm not him. And I'm sure as heck not going to judge him when I know what he has survived and how he has succeeded and how he has won over the American people. Hey, Gordon, you run for something. You have what he's been through. You get put through what he's been put through. And I dare you. to come out the other side as successful as he has. I can guarantee you, you would not. You'd be like me. You'd curl up in a fetal position on the couch, and you'd never leave the living room. 800-655-6453. Welcome aboard. It's a Friday episode of the Mike Gallagher Show in the Relief Factor Studios. We've got two open lines. I want to put your voice front and center. Your reaction, your thoughts, your take, coming up.
SPEAKER 1 :
Slowly face the lost You glow upon the world so bright Turning, turning
SPEAKER 11 :
There's no better time than right now to call my friends at PhD Weight Loss and Nutrition to start your journey to a healthier you. As I hear from you about how PhD Weight Loss and Nutrition has changed your life, I know that each one of us has had our own reasons for starting. I started my journey because I gained enough weight and was ready to make a change. I sat down with Dr. Ashley Lucas, and like they say, the rest was history. I lost 53 pounds, and I've kept it off. We all have different reasons for starting. Call 864-644-1900, 864-644-1900, or just go to MyPhDWeightLoss.com, MyPhDWeightLoss.com.
SPEAKER 05 :
The Mike Gallagher Show.
SPEAKER 14 :
We need to figure out ways to improve care, particularly for elderly, for veterans, for the poor in this country. And Medicaid, the current model, is not doing that. I would ask, you know, any of the Democrats who are chuckling just now, do you think all that money, the $900 billion that we're sending to Medicaid every year has made Americans healthy? Do we think it's working for anybody?
SPEAKER 05 :
In the ReliefFactor.com studios, here's Mike Gallagher.
SPEAKER 11 :
I'm grateful for all the great text messages pouring in on the MyPillow text line. Ohio, thank you, thank you, thank you, Mike. I love every minute of your show. We need your mouth to get through to the American people. I've nicknamed you Mighty Mouth, and I mean that from my heart with the most respect. Keep bringing it, Mike. Thank you. Phoenix, Arizona, I absolutely appreciate your response to emailer Gordon. Good for you. Absolutely spot on. Virginia, the ridiculous policies of hiring air traffic controllers because of their disabilities proves that Democrats actually hate America. That's David in Virginia. And Michigan, a great question from Michigan. Is it possible someone just posted those DEI requirements just to get the Republicans going? Now, because you can't believe it. You absolutely cannot believe it. Charlie Kirk is right. Imagine waking up saying, boy, we need more armless dwarves to be air traffic controllers. We don't have enough blind and deaf people to direct air traffic in America. We've got to have people with severe psychiatric disabilities up there. This is nuts. Beyond nuts. And it's going to stop. Is the timing of bringing this up now the best? Not my favorite thing. If I'm president, I probably would wait a little bit. But guess what? I'm not president. And nobody other than Donald Trump would be capable of of soaring the way he has. He's got this country captivated. And the Keith Olbermanns and the Stephen Colberts and the Rachel Maddows and the Joy Reads can whine and gripe and moan. They got nothing. The AOCs can take to social media all day long. They got nothing. They got zip. He's the president. He's going to say what he wants to say and when he wants to say it. And Americans, normal Americans, are fine with that. Absolutely fine with that. Here's what he said yesterday about Pete Buttigieg. Now, again, they're going to question the qualifications of Kash Patel? They have the audacity to sit around and question whether or not Pete Hegseth is qualified to be defense secretary? Tell me what the qualifications were for Pete Buttigieg to be named Transportation Secretary. I'm not asking that rhetorically. You think the mayor of South Bend, Indiana catapults you into a position like that? Give me a break. What was the qualification for Kamala Harris? Biden made it very clear. I want a black woman. I'm going to have a woman of color to be my vice presidential running mate. That's why she was picked. That's what Biden said. Take his word for it. Those days are gone. Those days are... Progressivism is dying in this country. Wokeism is evaporating. Cancel culture is being eliminated. And most of us love every minute of it. Mike's in Chicago, Illinois, 22 before the hour. How are you doing, Mike? Good.
SPEAKER 09 :
Mike, you are so spot on. I said the exact same words to my wife about what they have done to this man in the last four years. He can say and do whatever he wants. He survived two assassinations. And the man, like you said, the politicians would be in a fetal position. Most all of them would be. because of what has been done to this man. He's come out fighting stronger than ever, and God bless him for what he's done for this country. You are so spot on.
SPEAKER 11 :
Mike, they wanted to lock up his kids. They rifled through his wife's bedroom. They came up with a misdemeanor that had expired due to the statute of limitations, and that rabid, radical Alvin Bragg said, I'm going to get him. I'm going to get him. Let's come up with 34. You and I, we'd have been destroyed by that. Exactly. And this guy, not only did he survive it, he became the president of the United States. Twice. Twice. You know how hard that is? Do you know what this... I tell you what, and I say this with love to Gordon. I don't want to keep picking on Gordon, the independent email or whatever. You don't have a clue what it takes to survive what he survived. And I would say this to anybody. How dare you tell that man what he should or shouldn't say and when he should say it. Look, he's not up for re-election. Contrary to the rumors, there won't be a third term. He's not running for anything. He's running to make America great again. He's running to make America healthy again. And these strong people in his cabinet, are able to call out the clowns of the Democrats in a way nobody else has ever done. Look at Bobby Kennedy Jr. yesterday. You know how much money, how many millions of dollars Pocahontas Warren and Comrade Bernie the Socialist have gotten from the pharmaceutical industry? And they're up there browbeating Bobby Kennedy Jr. over his skepticism for vaccines? Are you kidding me? Well, RFK Jr. called him out perfectly yesterday. And if you're watching on the Salem News Channel, check out Bernie turning purple because Comrade Bernie wasn't ready to be called out for his own despicable hypocrisy, pocketing millions of dollars from the pharmaceutical industry that you're defending.
SPEAKER 14 :
I'm going to make America healthier than other countries in the world right now.
SPEAKER 13 :
Will you guarantee do what every other major country does? It's a simple question.
SPEAKER 14 :
And by the way, Bernie, you know, the problem of corruption is not just in the federal agencies. It's in Congress, too. Almost all the members of this panel are accepting, including yourself, are accepting millions of dollars from the pharmaceutical industry. Oh, no, no, no.
SPEAKER 13 :
And protecting their interests. Oh, I thought that that would come. No, no, no. I ran for president like you. I got millions and millions of contributions. They did not come from the executives, not one nickel of PAC money from the pharmaceutical industry. They came from workers.
SPEAKER 14 :
In 2020, you were the single largest.
SPEAKER 13 :
Because I have four contributions from workers all over this country. Workers, not a nickel from corporate tax. No, from workers in the industry.
SPEAKER 11 :
I swear we're watching an episode of Arrested Development starring Larry David. That guy's Larry David. No, no, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. No, no, no, no. I didn't get a dime from the executives. They were the workers from the pharmaceutical industry. They were the workers. No, no, no, no. Are you kidding me? You got called out, comrade. Hey, you rabid, rabid socialist, you got called out. Elizabeth Warren, same thing. Look at the list. You've seen it. These people have had their pockets lined for years by big pharma. And a guy comes along and says, you know what? I'm skeptical about a vaccine. I'm a little leery of nine shots because Anthony Fauci tells me to go get nine shots. Sorry, those days are gone. And people have every right to reject the government narrative about vaccines. You do you, boo. You do you. As the kids say. I saw that somebody last night posted a video. You do you, boo. You want to get nine shots? You want to wear four masks? You want to hide in your basement? You do whatever you want to do. Leave us alone. Leave us the hell alone. 800-655-MIKE-WADE in Minneapolis. Hey, Wade, welcome aboard. Wade, you there? All right, let's try Cat in Columbus. Hey, Cat, welcome to the Mike Gallagher Show. Hello.
SPEAKER 15 :
Hello, Mike. I just wanted to call and say I am so excited about what is happening for this country. I get choked up every day and the right is finally becoming scrappers. I've been saying for years when the left is throwing poop. The right kept throwing candy, and now that's not happening anymore. And because of you and President Trump, I am booking my spot on the Patriots Alaska cruise.
SPEAKER 11 :
Oh, wonderful. Do you know how much fun we're going to have, Kat? Have you ever been to Alaska? I have. I've been to Alaska for work, but not anything like this. So I'm so excited. When you see that first whale, when you see a bald eagle, when you see, I mean, there's nothing like it, Kat. I can't wait to see you in person. And you made my day. Thank you very, very much. Because Kat is so right. The days of timidly tiptoeing around are gone. And I feel the same way she does. I get emotional every day. I get choked up every day thinking that finally, finally common sense is starting to prevail. And this Alaska cruise, hurry up because don't put this off. $300 is all it takes to secure your stateroom. It's the second annual Patriots Alaska cruise. Sebastian Gorka and I got to co-host it this past summer. Well, Seb now is very busy in the Trump administration. So Larry Elder is going to be my co-host. We're going to be joined by Joe Piscopo, Jersey Joe from New York. He'll be doing Frank Sinatra and talking politics. The wonderful Jennifer Horn from L.A. will be with us. And by day, we cruise through Alaska. We set sail from Seattle. We're on the Euro Dam by Holland America. We're going to see the beauty and the majesty of Alaska. And then in the evening, after dinner or before dinner, depending on the schedule, We go to the world stage, and we have events together. We talk about the country. There is nothing like being in a room filled with hundreds of like-minded patriots on a beautiful, majestic cruise ship. It's the Patriots Alaska Cruise, August 16th through the 23rd. I want to urge you, when the space is gone, it's gone. Space is limited. Only so many staterooms available. Go to TravelWithSalem.com to get all the details, the itinerary, the pricing. And, Kat, we can't wait to see you in person on the ship. Go to TravelWithSalem.com to get all the details. TravelWithSalem.com. Or you can just text the keyword Alaska to our MyPillow text line, which is 800-655-MIKE. Text the keyword Alaska to 800-655-6453. Do you want to know what Bernie Sanders' net worth is? As a lifelong politician, guy that was, what, a mayor, city councilman in, you know, Stowe, Vermont, or wherever he's from, congressman, senator, you know what his net worth is? Around $3 million. Bernie Sanders is a multimillionaire. He doesn't have the you know what. He shouldn't have the you know what to question anybody like Bobby Kennedy Jr. and pretend you're a man of the people. No, no, no, no. Those were the workers. Yeah, nice try, Bernie. Nice try. You know, there's a cross that Mike Lindell of MyPillow wears around his neck. And for years, people have said, Mike, can we get that cross? And so I'm real proud to share with you that MyPillow is now offering the MyCross necklace. It's a beautiful sterling silver cross, onyx-styled black enamel with a protective clear coat, mother-of-pearl-styled translucent white enamel. They've got a men's size and a ladies' size. The MyCross necklace is now available for you at MyPillow.com. If you go to MyPillow.com, look for the Mike Gallagher specials and click on that box. You're going to get a huge discount. I mean, big-time discount. In fact, you're going to get, I think, $30 less of a price than what is available on the MyPillow site if you don't go to MySquare. So if you want a beautiful gift, if you want to remind yourself what matters, if you want the same cross, it's the same cross that Mike Lindell wears every day whenever you see him on TV. This cross is now available for you, and you're going to get a huge discount when you enter the promo code MikeG. So go to MyPillow.com, look for the Mike Gallagher specials, click on that box, and then find the MyCross. There's also all kinds of great items to get you the best night's sleep of your life. Just don't forget to enter the promo code MikeG so you'll save big, and you've got to go to that square. Go to MyPillow.com, look for the Mike Gallagher specials, click on that box. And then with anything you order, enter the promo code MikeG. MyPillow.com. Promo code MikeG. MyPillow.com. Promo code MikeG. Or call 800-928-6034. 800-928-6034. Sing along with me. For the best night's sleep in the whole wide world, visit MyPillow.com. Promo code MikeG.
SPEAKER 05 :
He's the happy conservative warrior. From the Relief Factor Studios, here's Mike Deller.
SPEAKER 11 :
It's all the kids who perished aboard American Airlines Flight 5342 that really is the gut punch. All those beautiful young kids, the young skaters and coaches who perished. The story, the one guy I saw give an interview yesterday, he lost his wife and his son. And I always think about that. I always think about how difficult and a little unusual it is to give an interview to the media when your whole life has been shattered. You know, I'm pretty selfish and I'm a fairly private guy, despite my occupation. When my wife died and we had a big, beautiful memorial for her at White's Chapel in Methodist Church in South Lake, Texas. We had just a very, very beautiful service officiated by our dear friend, Pastor John McKellar. We all wore little sunflower boutonnieres because sunflowers were her favorite flower. But I know it's expected that after a service, family members are supposed to stand at the church and greet or receive the people who were there. And I couldn't do that. I didn't want to do that. And I told my kids, I said, we had a lot of odd things happen. Those goofy Westboro Baptist Church people were planning, they said they were going to protest outside her funeral. My kids were going to bring baseball bats. I thought, that's all I need. As well as, you know, on top of losing my 51-year-old wife, we got to deal with those loonies. Thankfully, they never showed up. Anyhow, I remember telling my kids, you know, I know there's a lot of well-meaning people at the service. There were some listeners, I think, who came to the church, and that was very sweet. But I didn't want to stand there and shake hands, and I just didn't want to do it. And I remember Trevor, one of my sons, said, Dad, you do what you want to do. You lost your wife. We lost our mom. Let's get in the car and go home. And we had a gathering at the home for our close family and friends. And I remember the mayor of Dallas. I'll never forget this to my dying day. Good guy. Don't know where he is now. Tom Leppert was the mayor of Dallas. And he came to the service. And which just touched me deeply. The mayor of a major metropolitan city coming to pay his respects. I got a note from George W. Bush. So a lot of very important people did their best to reach out. And I remember leaving the church in the limo, in the funeral procession or whatever. And I didn't want to stay and shake hands. Because that was how I was grieving. I didn't want to do that. And we got in the car and I looked out and I saw Tom Leppert, the mayor, sort of standing outside the church looking puzzled that we were leaving. Because it wasn't probably protocol. And normal for the widower not to wait in the church. But that was how I grieved, you know? That was just a choice that I made. And I'm sorry if that was the wrong thing to do, but it worked for me. Anyway, I was thinking about that, watching this poor man talk about losing his son and his wife in this crash, and how people could say, wow, that's odd, and that's not protocol, and that's unusual. That's how he grieves. He wants to tell the world about his wife, his precious wife. He wants to tell the world about his son and how his son a few years ago discovered ice skating and the love of competitive skating. He wanted to tell anybody who wanted to know about his family. And we've got to give people a lot of grace, I think, because it really messes with you. When you lose the love of your life, It rocks your world. It changes everything. Everything is upside down. Nothing makes sense anymore. My wife wasn't supposed to die the day before her 52nd birthday. That didn't make any sense. She was the rock. She did everything. She was everything to me and to my kids. And everything was wrong. Well, at least I had a year and a half to say goodbye. And these poor people had no chance to say goodbye. And my heart goes out to every one of them. It's why I was reluctant to dive into this DEI stuff. It's why I was condemning people yesterday who were blaming President Trump for the crash. It's too soon. We've got to get through this together as a country. Now, on the other hand, Trump went right at it. And as usual, Trump has spotlighted some very serious problems. in this country. DEI is a problem. Now, the timing of it, probably not my favorite thing, but who am I? I'm just a big mouth with a talk show. Who cares what I think about his timing? And it reminds me of when he was talking about how they were eating the cats and dogs in Springfield, Ohio. Remember that? You know what the beauty of that was? Most Americans didn't know about the Haitian migrant issue in America, how communities have had to absorb thousands of migrants from a country like Haiti. Had Trump not brought that up at that debate, it would have never been an issue. And it is an issue. Just like diversity, equity, and inclusion is an issue. Look, the fact is the diversity practices, the hiring practices by the FAA were under scrutiny long before this week's air disaster. In fact, years before the fatal collision, critics were warning, according to the Washington Times, that the Obama and Biden administrations had jeopardized safety by prioritizing diversity, equity, and inclusion at the FAA. Okay. Here's what Trump said yesterday about the way Joe Biden and his administration lowered standards for air traffic controllers.
SPEAKER 02 :
Then when I left office and Biden took over, he changed them back to lower than ever before. I put safety first. Obama, Biden and the Democrats put policy first and they put politics at a level that nobody's. ever seen because this was the lowest level. Their policy was horrible and their politics was even worse. So as you know, last week, long before the crash, I signed an executive order restoring our highest standards for air traffic controllers and other important jobs throughout the country.
SPEAKER 11 :
Let's go to the Mike Gallagher Show newsroom where Roger P. Shulman is standing by who's been covering the FAA hiring practices. A little later this hour, Roger, we're going to talk to a fellow Floridian, Captain Will Smith of Will Smith Aviation. He has flown in and out of Reagan many, many times. But, Roger, this is actually a very, very important issue, and I think the American people are glad, despite this horrible, horrible loss of life and this catastrophe, glad that we're having a conversation about what qualifies somebody to be an air traffic controller.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, it's a very stressful job, and you have to be at the top of your game at all times. You can't have a bad day when you're an air traffic controller. And as the president said, you can't have people with dim intellects Physical malfunctions that cause them to not be able to hear or see in front of a scope telling airplanes to go left, right, up or down. It just doesn't work. And he wants the highest quality people. Now, we looked into what it takes to be an air traffic controller. It's a very good paying job. In fact, they're even encouraging high school kids to look into it. Go to USA Jobs or the FAA website and they'll tell you what's needed. You have to be a U.S. citizen. be able to speak English, be able to function. And if you're not capable of working the drive-through at a Burger King or McDonald's, if that's too stressful for you, this is not the job for you. You can apply to be an air traffic controller up to age 30. You can retire after 20 years at 50. Mandatory retirement age is 56. You'll be paid while you're going to school, and you start at about $60,000. Within three years, you're making over $100,000. And the... Average is about $158,000 a year. It's a good paying job. You do work nights and weekends. But it's a job that requires somebody who's very dedicated. You can't request time out because you're stressed out because you're going to be doing very important things. But it does, Mike, require the highest quality people who are very dedicated. And the pay is really quite good.
SPEAKER 11 :
You know, I appreciate your facts and statistics, Roger, in this issue because there's a lot of misinformation out there. I mean, there are so many wild conspiracy theories about what happened this week. I suppose it's a sign of the times, isn't it, that we have to be very careful to sift through fact and fiction.
SPEAKER 07 :
It is. And the fact is that they do now with the president want the highest quality people applying. And it's it's no longer going to be a DEI situation where you have to accept some people who are not up to standard. There are certain jobs where you cannot have. a person of low intellect or low abilities or low commitment. You don't want your doctor to be that way. You don't want your pilot to be that way. You want a Will Smith. You don't want somebody who was hired because they just squeaked by almost. You want somebody who's really good in these positions. And this is an area where I think the president is spot on.
SPEAKER 11 :
And we don't want just any newsman on the Mike Gallagher show. We want the best. And that's why we appreciate your contributions, Roger P. Shulman. Thanks for your work. Keep fighting the good fight.
SPEAKER 07 :
Thank you so much.
SPEAKER 11 :
More coming up, including a visit with Captain Will Smith. He has flown in and out of Reagan National hundreds of times. He's got some very, very definite beliefs about these government positions and DEI practices and how it is impacting our airspace. Stick around. More coming up on this busy Friday. Glad to have you here.
SPEAKER 04 :
Don't you know?
SPEAKER 08 :
Hi, everyone. If you've been injured in an accident that was not your fault, listen up. We have legal professionals standing by to answer your questions for free. Call now and find out if you have a case and how much it's potentially worth. Call 800-702-5400. I'm here with spokesman John Wolf. So, John, tell everyone listening who should call right now.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, Maria, first off, thank you for having me here. It's always nice to answer the listeners' questions. Now, as far as who should call in, anyone who's been injured in an accident and think you deserve compensation, give us a call right now. 800-702-5400. You'll find out if you have a case and how much it's potentially worth.
SPEAKER 08 :
Thanks, John. You heard it, folks. Take advantage of this opportunity and call now. 800-702-5400.
SPEAKER 06 :
Advertisement sponsored by Legal Help Center may not be available in all states.
SPEAKER 05 :
Mike Gallagher. Every day, Mike visits with Mark Davis, morning host on 660 AM, The Answer in Dallas. Here's today's M&M experience.
SPEAKER 11 :
Let's talk about how we do our thing. Let's do it. Because here's my day yesterday. I was reconsidering my career choices. I was thinking, all right, this is going to be my 50, 65th year. In April, I will turn the dreaded or heralded 65. Nothing to it. Maybe not too late to switch careers after I go on the air and do this whole thing about how it's wrong to politicize the Potomac crash and the Democrats are demonic and isn't that awful? And then I even had to throw in a little caveat right before I threw it to President Trump.
SPEAKER 04 :
Of course, because he's a lot.
SPEAKER 11 :
He's on live. He's coming up. But before he came on live, I thought it would be smart. I thought I made the decision that it would be a good call to say, look, even some of us are making the same mistake. There are some people who are bringing up DEI right before even before the bodies are pulled out of the river. And then we go live to Donald Trump. And of course, how many seconds did it take? About a half a minute. I mean, he starts out, moment of silence, which was nice. And then he says, let's be unified, which was great. And then he dives headfirst into Pete Buttigieg destroying the FAA and the DEI. We got armless dwarves, apparently, up in the control tower, which I didn't have on my bingo card. Did you know that?
SPEAKER 12 :
I don't know if they were armless dwarves. I think they might be. Some people were armless and some people were dwarves. There was a variety of impediments that might have been difficult to make you in air traffic.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, I mean, but I looked this up. Charlie Kirk pointed this out yesterday, and it gave me pause. He said, look, think about you're in the Biden administration. You wake up one morning, and you say, we don't have enough dwarfs or people without limbs, or we have deaf people or blind people who want to be in the air traffic controller tower. Now, first of all, pardon me, how are you blind and deaf, and you're an air traffic controller? I don't know. How does that even work? Correct. I guess you could do it without your arms. And if you're a dwarf, I guess you could prop them up on a phone book or something and give them a milk crate. I mean, give them a stool. But I mean, that's what you're looking for? And look, and Trump's point is, I want the best people for the job who will keep this guy safe.
SPEAKER 12 :
Now, let me go back to my- And it's a superb point. And as I sometimes will need to do and we do this for each other let me give you a hundred percent cover on this because i your instincts were right we had just blistered people who went political in the wake of the crash for going after trump you know this this idiot is it man wish we had a real secretary of defense because we need answers and we said let's not be political that's ugly and being the gracious soul that you are you said let's not you know commit the similar sin on our side And I would suggest to you that that's not what he was doing at all. And I think we're going to agree on this, that while there may not be anything necessarily in that air traffic control tower or any of those cockpits that necessarily speak to DEI, it is always a good idea, especially after situations like this. To examine safety and anything that makes us safer is good. Anything that stands in the way of safety is bad. And DEI and quotas and cherry picking and weird outreach makes us less safe. President was 100 percent right.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, it has to do with the timing. Of course, he's right. And it's entirely correct. But here's my I'm going to give myself cover. Let me tell you why. You know, I'm absolutely going to own what I said about the timing, but I'm also going to defend President Trump. Look, who am I to tell this guy what the right timing is going to be? I'm just a big mouth with a talk show. This is a guy, I defy you to find any individual in the history of mankind who could have withstood what he withstood. I got an email from a guy, nice guy, and I got a lot of feedback on this saying, Mike, I hope you call Trump out for this. The timing was terrible. This is what he does wrong. This is his big, this is his fatal flaw, they say. This is his weakness. It's killed him, clearly. Obviously kept him from winning again. Well, that's my point. What they think is his weakness, Mark, is his strength. What they think is his brusque, tacky, bad timing and all, what they don't get is this guy was shot. This guy was convicted 34 counts. This guy, they tried to bankrupt him. Nobody would have gone through that and got elected to president twice except him. So you know what? And incidentally, they would have never given him any grace if he would have just been, oh, kumbaya, hunky-dory. They wouldn't have said, oh, good for him. They'd look for the next thing to attack him for. And you know what? He knows that, Mark. And so he gives two craps. He gives two craps. He wants to rail against DEI? Then you know what? He's going to do it. Not my favorite thing to do it yesterday when the bodies aren't out of the river. I wouldn't have done it, but I'm not him. Nobody shot me.
SPEAKER 12 :
I didn't mind at all. And I know these are matters of pretty small degree, but I really, really didn't. I found no, and I heard a bunch of people say, how must these families feel, you know, while they're still grieving loved ones, and here's Trump railing at prior administrations for having cast too broad a net for people who maybe shouldn't be. First of all, I think that if you just had a loved one die in the icy Potomac Trump's news conference is not front of mind for you.
SPEAKER 11 :
It's the last thing you're worried about.
SPEAKER 12 :
It just doesn't matter. This was the province of the haters. And I will tell you, the day after we lose people, the day after people die is a magnificent time to focus on the safety of our system. And if there are things in past policy that have made our system less safe, you bet that's the time to bring it up in that way that only he uniquely can do.
SPEAKER 11 :
Let's look factually at what Pete Buttigieg, the then Secretary of Transportation, did. He set a hiring goal. And I'm reading this right from the Transportation Department's own information. They set a hiring goal of 3% per fiscal year for individuals with targeted... parentheses, severe disabilities. Now, here's the list. The targeted disabilities are those disabilities that the federal government, as a matter of policy, has identified for special emphasis in recruitment and hiring. Now, let me go for, let me take a moment and share with you the list of those targeted disabilities. This is from the government site. This is not fake news. Hearing, parentheses, total deafness in both ears. Yeah. vision, parentheses, blind, missing extremities, partial paralysis, complete paralysis, epilepsy, severe intellectual disability. psychiatric disability, and yes, indeed, dwarfism. Now, like Charlie Kirk said, imagine waking up and thinking, folks, I feel like we don't have enough psychotic or mentally handicapped air traffic controllers. This was the Biden Department of Transportation. You know what the miracle is? That we don't have more Potomac crashes. On a regular basis. I mean, we're lucky. And look, they've been warning about near misses for a long time. A year ago, the Washington Times did a whole big article about how turning people away because they're white from the air traffic control system is going to jeopardize safety. Well, look at what happened. Now, here's the bottom line, though. But here's the caveat that we all probably have to acknowledge. None of this may have anything to do with what happened the night before last.
SPEAKER 12 :
Right, correct. It may not be specific to this, but the subject is still completely germane and completely proper.
SPEAKER 11 :
Right. Look, Trump is angry. It's normal. 67 people dead. Children. These stories are so heart-wrenching. Figures that moms and dads with their little kids and beautiful stories and the guy that couldn't get on the plane because his dog was too big. Imagine his survivor's guilt for the rest of his life. And so, look, it is fair to say that these dreadful DEI policies are awful for the American people. And, look, I don't know what the right time is to talk about it, but I'm not going to. Anytime. Okay. All right. I'll go with that.
SPEAKER 12 :
Unburden yourself. It's fine.
SPEAKER 11 :
I'll go with that. Now, final minute. Go ahead. Let's talk about the hearings yesterday because I got to get this off my chest. I was so riveted by watching Democrats. I mean, they were hysterical. I mean, between, I mean, Elizabeth Warren. Adam Schiff was shrieking. He sounded like a soprano from the Morbin Tabernacle Choir. He's this high, shrilly voice. Turn around and look at the puller. What the hell is wrong with these? They're nuts, Mark. And Chris DeGaulle, I was listening to him a little bit before I turned your show on at 7. Chris had such a great point. To a number of, to all the Democrats and even some Republicans, if you exhibit any skepticism about any vaccine, you're to be put into a mental institution.
SPEAKER 12 :
That's it. That's where the bar is set.
SPEAKER 11 :
You're a conspiracy theorist. Put a tinfoil hat on you. Well, guess what? You're allowed to be skeptical about anything you want to be skeptical about. And Susan Collins and all Susan Collins yesterday. Oh, people would be in a classroom without an unvaccinated with an unvaccinated child, which would lead to herd immunity. She's reciting all the crap that's been debunked. It's all been debunked.
SPEAKER 12 :
So, you know, can I give you a show? 30 seconds. Can I give you a show today? Because I'm going to give myself one in the following way. Cash Patel. Fantastic. By the way, Tulsi Gabbard is great, too. I'm going to ask you the Tulsi Gabbard question. Edward Snowden, is he a traitor? Yes or no? And she's not going to take the bait, and I'm not either.
SPEAKER 11 :
I'll take it. Yes. Okay.
SPEAKER 12 :
100% traitor.
SPEAKER 11 :
That's what Adam Schiff wants you to say. No, it's not. It's true. But it's what Adam Schiff wants you to say. I don't care. I know, but she does. She's not going to give him what he wants. And I'm glad she answered it the way she did.
SPEAKER 12 :
She has what you might call a more nuanced view. I understand that nuance. And here's what we'll talk about a little bit. And feel free to take this no charge. If you break the laws of the United States and surrender some of our secrets... Does it become heroic if it's stuff that the country should not be doing? Therein lies the question.
SPEAKER 11 :
It's a great topic. But again, but I also love the way she answered it. I love what Kash Patel said. Look, if you look at that hearing yesterday, these senators, these miserable, decrepit senators, they clearly admitted they didn't want to hear his answer. I mean, he would start to answer. They'd shut him down. In fact, at one point, one of the senators said, I don't want to hear your answer. You can give me your answer in writing. This is my time. So they're not interested. This isn't advice and consent. It's a TV show. It's performance art. That's all it is. Guess what? Conform them all. And if they don't, any Republican who doesn't, get primaried. Get your butt primaried. They're going to go after you, John Cornyn. Hey, John Cornyn, you listening? Hey, Tom Tillis, you paying attention? You're going to get primaried. You better do the right thing here.
SPEAKER 12 :
I think Cornyn and Tillis will both be good soldiers. Susan Collins and Murkowski, I just don't know. All right, man, have a fantastic show and a great weekend. I love you.
SPEAKER 11 :
I love you. Have a great weekend. See you Monday.
SPEAKER 05 :
Download the podcast and hear all of Mike and Mark's conversations at MikeOnline.com for the M&M experience.
As the conversation unfolds, the hosts explore the entrenched polarities in political circles, particularly concerning vaccine skepticism and privacy issues. They scrutinize the sensational nature of politics today and the performance art quality of political hearings. Join Mike and Mark as they dissect these multifaceted issues, providing a critical lens on contemporary political discourse.
SPEAKER 03 :
Mike Gallagher. Every day, Mike visits with Mark Davis, morning host on 660 AM, The Answer in Dallas. Here's today's Eminem experience.
SPEAKER 05 :
Let's talk about how we do our thing. Let's do it. Because here's my day yesterday. I was reconsidering my career choices. I was thinking, all right, this is going to be my 50th, 65th year. In April, I will turn the dreaded or heralded 65. Maybe not too late to switch careers. I go on the air and do this whole thing about how it's wrong to politicize the Potomac crash and the Democrats are demonic and isn't that awful? And then I even had to throw in a little caveat right before I threw it to President Trump.
SPEAKER 01 :
I said...
SPEAKER 05 :
He's on live. He's coming up. But before he came on live, I thought it would be smart. I thought I made the decision that it would be a good call to say, look, even some of us are making the same mistake. There are some people who are bringing up DEI right before even before the bodies are pulled out of the river. And then we go live to Donald Trump. And of course, how many seconds did it take? About a half a minute. I mean, he starts out, moment of silence, which was nice. And then he says, let's be unified, which was great. And then he dives headfirst into Pete Buttigieg destroying the FAA and the DEI. We got armless dwarves, apparently, up in the control tower, which I didn't have on my bingo card. Did you know that?
SPEAKER 04 :
I don't know if they were armless dwarves. I think they might be. Some people were armless and some people were dwarves. There was a variety of impediments that might have been difficult to make you in air traffic.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, I mean, but I looked this up. Charlie Kirk pointed this out yesterday, and it gave me pause. He said, look, think about you're in the Biden administration. You wake up one morning, and you say, we don't have enough dwarfs or people without limbs, or we have deaf people or blind people who want to be in the air traffic controller tower. Now, first of all, pardon me, how are you blind and deaf, and you're an air traffic controller? I don't know. How does that even work? Correct. I guess you could do it without your arms. And if you're a dwarf, I guess you could prop them up on a phone book or something and give them a milk crate. I mean, give them a stool. But I mean, that's what you're looking for? And look, I would... And Trump's point is, I want the best people for the job who will keep this guy safe.
SPEAKER 04 :
Now, let me go back to my... And it's a superb point. And as I sometimes will... It's the right point. And we do this for each other. Let me give you 100 percent cover on this because your instincts were right. We had just blistered people who went political in the wake of the crash for going after Trump. You know, this idiot is in. I wish we had a real secretary of defense because we need answers. And we said, let's not be political. That's ugly. And being the gracious soul that you are, you said, let's not commit the similar sin on our side. And I would suggest to you that that's not what he was doing at all. And I think we're going to agree on this, that while there may not be anything necessarily in that air traffic control tower or any of those cockpits that necessarily speak to DEI, it is always a good idea, especially after situations like this. To examine safety and anything that makes us safer is good. Anything that stands in the way of safety is bad. And DEI and quotas and cherry picking and weird outreach makes us less safe. President was 100 percent right.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, it has to do with the timing. Of course, he's right. And it's entirely correct. But here's my I'm going to give myself cover. Let me tell you why. You know, I'm absolutely going to own what I said about the timing, but I'm also going to defend President Trump. Look, who am I to tell this guy what the right timing is going to be? I'm just a big mouth with a talk show. This is a guy, I defy you to find any individual in the history of mankind who could have withstood what he withstood. I got an email from a guy, nice guy, and I got a lot of feedback on this saying, Mike, I hope you call Trump out for this. The timing was terrible. This is what he does wrong. This is his big, this is his fatal flaw, they say.
SPEAKER 04 :
This is his weakness.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, it's killed him, clearly.
SPEAKER 04 :
It obviously kept him from winning again.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, that's my point. What they think is his weakness, Mark, is his strength. What they think is his brusque, tacky, bad timing and all, what they don't get is... This guy was shot. This guy was convicted 34 counts. This guy, they tried to bankrupt him. Nobody would have gone through that and got elected to president twice except him. So you know what? And incidentally. They would have never given him any grace if he would have just been, oh, kumbaya, hunky-dory. They wouldn't have said, oh, good for him. They'd look for the next thing to attack him for. And you know what? He knows that, Mark. And so he gives two craps. He gives two craps. He wants to rail against DEI? Then you know what? He's going to...
SPEAKER 02 :
Hi, everyone. If you've been injured in an accident that was not your fault, listen up. We have legal professionals standing by to answer your questions for free. Call now and find out if you have a case and how much it's potentially worth. Call 800-702-5400. I'm here with spokesman John Wolf. So, John, tell everyone listening who should call right now.
SPEAKER 01 :
Well, Maria, first off, thank you for having me here. It's always nice to answer the listeners' questions. Now, as far as who should call in, anyone who's been injured in an accident and think you deserve compensation, give us a call right now. 800-702-5400. You'll find out if you have a case and how much it's potentially worth.
SPEAKER 02 :
Thanks, John. You heard it, folks. Take advantage of this opportunity and call now. 800-702-5400.
SPEAKER 01 :
Advertisement sponsored by Legal Help Center may not be available in all states.
SPEAKER 04 :
do it not my favorite thing to do it yesterday when the bodies aren't out of the river i wouldn't have done it but i'm not him nobody shot me i didn't mind at all and i know these are matters of pretty small degree but because i just i really really didn't i found no and i heard a bunch of people say How must these families feel, you know, while they're still grieving loved ones? And here's Trump railing at prior administrations for having cast too broad a net for people who maybe shouldn't be. First of all, I think that if you just had a loved one die in the icy Potomac. Trump's news conference is not front of mind for you. It's the last thing you're worried about. It just doesn't matter. This was the province of the haters. And I will tell you, the day after we lose people, the day after people die is a magnificent time to focus on the safety of our system. And if there are things in past policy that have made our system less safe, you bet that's the time to bring it up in that way that only he uniquely can do.
SPEAKER 05 :
Let's look factually at what Pete Buttigieg, the then Secretary of Transportation, did. He set a hiring goal. And I'm reading this right from the Transportation Department's own information. They set a hiring goal of 3% per fiscal year for individuals with targeted... parentheses, severe disabilities. Now, here's the list. The targeted disabilities are those disabilities that the federal government, as a matter of policy, has identified for special emphasis in recruitment and hiring. Now, let me go for, let me take a moment and share with you the list of those targeted disabilities. This is from the government site. This is not fake news. Hearing, parentheses, total deafness in both ears. Yeah. vision, parentheses, blind, missing extremities, partial paralysis, complete paralysis, epilepsy, severe intellectual disability. psychiatric disability, and yes, indeed, dwarfism. Now, like Charlie Kirk said, imagine waking up and thinking, folks, I feel like we don't have enough psychotic or mentally handicapped air traffic controllers. This was the Biden Department of Transportation. You know what the miracle is? That we don't have more Potomac crashes. Absolutely. On a regular basis. I mean, we're lucky. And look, they've been warning about near misses for a long time. A year ago, the Washington Times did a whole big article about how turning people away because they're white from the air traffic control system is going to jeopardize safety. Well, look at what happened. Now, here's the bottom line, though. But here's the caveat that we all probably have to acknowledge. None of this may have anything to do with what happened night before last.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right, correct. It may not be specific to this, but the subject is still completely germane and completely proper. Right.
SPEAKER 05 :
Look, Trump is angry. It's normal. 67 people dead. Children. These stories are so heart-wrenching. Figures that moms and dads with their little kids and beautiful stories and the guy that couldn't get on the plane because his dog was too big. Imagine his survivor's guilt for the rest of his life. And so, look, it is fair to say that these dreadful DEI policies are awful for the American people. And, look, I don't know what the right time is to talk about it, but I'm not going to.
SPEAKER 04 :
Anytime. Okay.
SPEAKER 05 :
All right.
SPEAKER 04 :
I'll go with that. Unburden yourself. It's fine. I'll go with that. Now, final minute.
SPEAKER 05 :
Go ahead. Let's talk about the hearings yesterday because I got to get this off my chest. I was so riveted by watching Democrats. I mean, they were hysterical. I mean, between, I mean, Elizabeth Warren. Adam Schiff was shrieking. He sounded like a soprano from the Morbin Tabernacle Choir. He's this high, shrilly voice. Turn around and look at the puller. What the hell is wrong with these? They're nuts, Mark. And Chris DeGaulle, I was listening to him a little bit before I turned your show on at 7. Chris had such a great point. To a number of, to all the Democrats and even some Republicans, if you exhibit any skepticism about any vaccine, you're to be put into a mental institution.
SPEAKER 04 :
That's it. That's where the bar is set.
SPEAKER 05 :
You're a conspiracy theorist. Put a tinfoil hat on you. Well, guess what? You're allowed to be skeptical about anything you want to be skeptical about. And Susan Collins and all Susan Collins yesterday. Oh, people would be in a classroom without an unvaccinated child, which would lead to herd immunity. She's reciting all the crap that's been debunked. It's all been debunked.
SPEAKER 04 :
So, you know, can I give you a show? 30 seconds. Can I give you a show today? Because I'm going to give myself one in the following way. Kash Patel is fantastic, by the way. Tulsi Gabbard is great, too. I'm going to ask you the Tulsi Gabbard question. Edward Snowden, is he a traitor? Yes or no? And she's not going to take the bait, and I'm not either. I'll take it. Yes. Okay. 100% traitor.
SPEAKER 05 :
That's what Adam Schiff wants you to say. No, it's not. It's true. But it's what Adam Schiff wants you to say.
SPEAKER 04 :
I don't care.
SPEAKER 05 :
I know, but she does. She's not going to give him what he wants.
SPEAKER 04 :
And I'm glad she answered it the way she did. She has what you might call a more nuanced view. I understand that nuance. And here's what we'll talk about a little bit. And feel free to take this no charge. If you break the laws of the United States and surrender some of our secrets... Does it become heroic if it's stuff that the country should not be doing? Therein lies the question.
SPEAKER 05 :
It's a great topic. But again, but I also love the way she answered it. I love what Kash Patel said. Look, if you look at that hearing yesterday, these senators, these miserable, decrepit senators, they clearly admitted they didn't want to hear his answer. I mean, he would start to answer.
SPEAKER 01 :
They'd shut him down.
SPEAKER 05 :
In fact, at one point, one of the senators said, I don't want to hear your answer. You can give me your answer in writing. This is my time. So they're not interested. This isn't advice and consent. It's a TV show. It's performance art. That's all it is. Guess what? Conform them all. And if they don't, any Republican who doesn't, get primary. Get your butt primary. They're going to go after you. John Cornyn. Hey, John Cornyn, you listening? Hey, Tom Tillis, you paying attention? You're going to get primary. You better do the right thing here.
SPEAKER 04 :
I think Cornyn and Tillis will both be good soldiers. Susan Collins and Murkowski, I just don't know. All right, man, have a fantastic show and a great weekend. I love you. I love you.
SPEAKER 05 :
Have a great weekend. See you Monday.
SPEAKER 03 :
Download the podcast and hear all of Mike and Mark's conversations at MikeOnline.com for the Eminem experience.
Americans are failing to execute the mandates of God. “There is a lack of knowledge in the land” (Hosea 4:1-6). There is no love for God or His Word. Rejection of divine establishment principles (freedom, marriage, family, nationalism), unrestrained lawlessness, and a crisis in governance are all indicators of a dying nation. We’re losing our country. You are the solution. Use the grace assets of the power of the Holy Spirit and the living Word of God in your spiritual life to deliver us. “Take My yoke and learn of Me” (Matt 11:29).
Click for Full Transcript: https://rhem.pub/america-dying-96d47c
Get ready for a rollercoaster of narratives as we explore the latest in political strategies and media dynamics. We discuss President Trump's verbosity compared to President Biden's quiet approach and ponder why certain narratives dominate the political scene. Discover how claims of racism and misogyny shape perceptions and hear about a secret gift room scandal in Chicago that has everyone talking. Along with valuable insights into the mechanics of political narratives, this episode promises a mix of humor and critical thought.
SPEAKER 02 :
If you like true crime, you'll love the Miracle Files podcast.
SPEAKER 03 :
We share real stories with the suspense of true crime, but we'll leave you with a sense of light and hope.
SPEAKER 02 :
Like the college wrestler who fought a grizzly, the woman who was dead for nearly an hour, or the child lost in a dark mine for days. These are the kind of stories that remind us miracles are real.
SPEAKER 03 :
Subscribe to the Miracle Files wherever you get your podcasts and join us on this thrilling journey of faith and miracles.
SPEAKER 06 :
Dana Lash's Absurd Truth Podcast, sponsored by Kel-Tec.
SPEAKER 07 :
It's his life mission to make bad decisions. It's time for Florida Man.
SPEAKER 08 :
That's right. It's time for Florida Man. My name is Craig Collins filling in. Thrilled to be with you on the Dana Show. Three very epic Florida Man stories. The first one involves a guy who's now being charged with a felony. This is, I guess, his third battery charge. So it gets upgraded to felony. The problem with this one is it involves a bologna sandwich. So a guy who was playing video games, his name is Quatevos Chandler. He's 29 years old. I don't even know if I got his first name correct, actually, to be honest with you. He's playing his PlayStation 5. His friend took it away from him, said he was playing it too much, and he threw a bologna sandwich at somebody. Within the police report, it says the alleged bologna sandwich that was allegedly thrown—I like that wording— hit someone in the center of the chest. There was no visible injury because, again, it's a baloney sandwich. This is all on a video, which is bad for Chandler, and then also the fact that it's the third time he's done this. The other two incidents also involved video games. Apparently, this dude should not be put anywhere near video games. They cause a problem in his life and also make him very willing to chuck said baloney sandwich away. I don't think you can actually charge somebody with a felony for a bologna sandwich. It sounds like the kind of thing they do to Donald Trump, to President Trump, but I digress. It is what it is. I don't know if the other charges are much more extreme in his previous cases. Maybe it's a good thing that he's going to get this one up to felony charge, even though, again, the worst thing done was the throwing of a bologna sandwich. All right, another story that I thought was great. Dylan DeVereaux, who is 36 years old, was arrested by Florida Highway Patrol. He escaped during the process. Several aspects of his escape are sort of amazing. Dylan was wearing a Dalmatian dog onesie for some reason after being pulled over by cops in Florida. He was also in the process of being handcuffed and, get this, had been tased twice before. Once, well, first apprehending him and him fighting back. Then again, just before he gets away, he gets tased. Doesn't stop the guy. He's still capable of making it away and running. So a dude with one handcuff on one of his wrists in a Dalmatian onesie after being tased twice ran erratically away from cops and then eventually was apprehended. I wonder what's going through your mind. In the moment where you fight your way, you know, to separate yourself from cops for a few seconds, you're wearing a Dalmatian onesie. I imagine you're not in your right frame of mind. I should actually say that part, too. But you got a set of handcuffs dangling off one wrist and you're trying to make a run for it. I wonder what's going through your brain as to the odds you're going to succeed. I wonder if the guy's like, oh, I'm getting free. I'm getting away from this whole situation. I'll be just fine. But tased twice and still somehow fine or still somehow capable of continuing to go. That's sort of remarkable in and of itself. All right. Those are two. One last Florida man story or Florida woman story. In this case, a couple was having a picnic when an alligator decided to interrupt said picnic. Things that I love about this story, the dude vanished in the video, so the woman was left to fight off the alligator, although there wasn't much fighting. The woman simply just yelled at the alligator, and eventually it turned around and left them alone for the picnic. But the woman kept yelling, Gator Boy! along with words that i can't play on the radio so i won't be able to play the audio at the alligator to make it go away the internet loved calling the gator gator boy i love calling the dude who disappeared from the video everything other than gator boy and probably a bunch of words i also can't say on the radio not exactly a good look for florida man a good look for the florida lady uh even though you probably should not have tried to stand your ground against a alligator but it worked out and you showed that gator boy a lesson but those are three florida man florida woman stories that i really love that are out there today some of those are a top tier for that whole situation and i guess i'll just warn you if you're around uh cuatevos or whatever this guy's name is and he's playing a video game you might be hit with some sort of lunch meat and that that seems ridiculously bad i can't get over that but that might be a felony charge come on people There's got to be a way. I'm not saying that he's not guilty of other things, but there's got to be a way to not go that crazy about baloney, although it's not a good meet.
SPEAKER 01 :
Our partners that help bring you the program, Kel-Tec. They got a new 5.7 they're coming out with. I know. And I think George Kellgren, have you ever talked to him? So he's the guy who runs Kel-Tec and he owns and operates it. He innovates everything. Independent of me, one of my kids said he's literally a mad scientist. He just sits there and comes up with... Things that you didn't think that you needed until they made it. And then you're like, yeah, I need this. I'll talk more about what they have next week because I'm broadcasting from their booth at SHOT Show. But they're coming out. They got a new 5-7 they're coming out with and they're unveiling it at SHOT Show. But this is a Florida-based company, a great all-American story. Whatever you need for firearms, they've They've invented the concealed compact category. They make some really awesome stuff, and it's at caltechweapons.com. And when you go to their website, see everything that they have, the P-15, the P-11, the P-32, the fold-in half, sub-2Ks, all awesome. But they have a surprise for everybody next week. Visit caltechweapons.com. Sign up for their newsletter. Find them on social media. Innovation Performance Caltech, K-E-L-T-E-C. That's caltechweapons.com.
SPEAKER 05 :
Donald Trump is sworn in as president again. Joe Biden preemptively pardons political allies and more family members as he exits. And the American people strongly back the new president on deportations and transgender policy. I'm Greg Karumbas. Join Jim Garrity of National Review and me each weekday for the Three Martini Lunch podcast. We'll give you the good, bad, and crazy news of the day and hopefully a lot of laughs too. Follow the Three Martini Lunch on Apple, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts.
SPEAKER 08 :
This is The Dana Show. My name is Craig Collins filling in. Thrilled to be with you. Dean Lash, Dana Lash Radio. Great ways to stay connected to her. This is hilarious as just like an update out there in the world. Apparently, the White House stenographers are having a really difficult time keeping up with Donald Trump because he says a lot of words. President Trump speaks often. It's utterly different. than Joe Biden, than President Biden in such a fantastic way. Like in all honesty, if you hate the guy or love the guy, getting information from him, getting statements from him is one of the easiest things that's ever existed. For media and finding President Biden, you had to like go into the closet they were keeping him in and beg him to speak to you. And then he had to look at six other people and get something written on a piece of paper before he was allowed to speak. That is not the challenge with President Trump. Not at all. 22,000 words spoken on Inauguration Day by the president, 17,000 after visiting a disaster site in North Carolina and California. Apparently, the people who are supposed to transcribe all these words have no idea how to do it. You need like two or three. You need them to tag each other in and out like it's a WWE match or something. That seems better to me. This seems great. All right. Let's move on to this. The amount of failed, you know, they need to learn their lesson moments that exist for Democrats after this last election is simply through the roof. You can find example after example of someone saying on one of those platforms, you know, we need to do things differently. We need to think differently. We need to approach certain topics differently. And then you wait a couple minutes and they say exactly the same thing they've always done. They call Trump a fascist, whatever it is they need to do. That's the world we live in. This is one of those moments where every single candidate to be the new DNC chair blamed the 2024 loss on race and misogyny. They did not blame it on the fact that Kamala Harris couldn't answer basic questions, hated actually being asked direct questions about what she would do if she were the president, and instead all the time tried to crap on Trump. don't just blame the person that you're running against for being a bad, terrible person. Blame all the people who vote for that individual. That's the plan of the DNC. It's been the plan. It failed to work. It'll fail to work again. Here we go.
SPEAKER 04 :
This round. So I'm going to have a show of hands. How many of you believe that racism and misogyny played a role in Vice President Harris's defeat?
SPEAKER 08 :
All the hands go up. The whole audience laughs. There's people in the audience raising their hands to this question and joking about it. And it's amazing, man. So. That's good. You all pass. That's good you all pass is the way that you respond to on MSNBC. Why is that a belief? In all honesty, like truly, why is that a belief? I'll wait for someone to give me a real answer because I'll tell you I'm a white guy. I'm about 40. I'm a millennial. And when you grow up in a world in which not only are you taught what right and wrong is, and you're also told what beliefs you should have and what beliefs you shouldn't have from a very early age in school, which some people now call indoctrination and whatnot, but certainly have been taught lesson after lesson about how bad racism is. You don't at all feel like you yourself are a racist in any capacity or a sexist or any of those other things. And more importantly... when you're specific to the 2024 election, you did not choose not to vote for Harris because she was not a white man. That wasn't the reason. You're like, well, I don't know if I can vote this person into power. Is that why Joe Biden got elected in 2020? Because he's a white dude? Is that why his poll numbers were so terrible? terrible absolutely atrocious going into 2024 because white people got confused is that what you think happened i i don't have an answer to that i just think it's crazy but here's what i'm trying to say about that that other stuff when you're raised in this world where you're taught certain things and you believe certain things uh and you you know uh grow to be the age where you're going to vote in an election and i don't mean just people in my generation i mean the youngest of people And the whole time you're being told by one side of the aisle that you're the problem. If you're a white dude, you're told you're the issue. You're the thing we need to change. And even in this moment, the DNC is saying out loud, everyone's raising their hands and they're all joking about it, that white people are racist or sexist or some version of that is the undercurrent of that message. Why would you vote that party into power? I'm not saying that you believe what they're saying is true. But if you were standing between two choices and one choice says you're the reason our society screwed up and the other choice doesn't bring that discussion to the table at all, it's kind of hard to listen to the narrative of the side that's telling you you're a bad person. It's usually not easy to be like, all right, I'm a bad person. What else you got? Let's go to option number two before we decide where to vote, especially when, and this is the thing I'm trying to make most clear, you're not a bad person. You're not doing anything remotely bad in your everyday life, actually, in those worlds. You're not behaving like a racist, a sexist. You don't hide any of those feelings. I'll actually go a step further. This is interesting to me, and it's just a personal experience I had. I remember this vividly. I was standing at a bus stop in Chicago, Illinois, on the south side of Chicago. I used to live in Chicago for a long time, not necessarily the south side. And I was just standing there waiting for a bus. And there were some other people standing near me, different collection of human beings, not all white people. And a black man walked past us. And he walked very close into the orbit of every individual who was standing at the bus stop. And I didn't move. And most of the people did. And again, they weren't all white. They were all different races and sexes of humans. And he invaded the space of every one of us. And I'll tell you the reason I didn't move. I didn't even pay attention to it. In the city of Chicago, sometimes there are people who get up in your space. And I was living there for long enough that I just didn't even notice. I think I was looking at my phone or something. And the guy came up to me and said, good job. And I looked at him. I'm like, what? He goes, you didn't move. Good job. Everybody else moved. They're afraid of me. And I didn't I don't even think I said anything to the guy after that happened. I just boarded the bus. But I kept thinking about it, that his life that day, what he was doing, I assume if he did that more than once, was testing people in a weird way and then deciding the reason they might have moved away from him is they were racist or something of a black guy. And the reason I didn't move had nothing to do with his race. Or if I had noticed him more, I also probably wouldn't have moved because, you know, I wouldn't have cared about that. It's just weird to get that close up into your space for no reason. But nonetheless, I didn't. It's the decision I made. And it's just weird for someone to then hold that chip. to hold that information in the back of their mind that people have to be racist and I'm going to prove it to myself in a weird way. And that seems to be the DNC's narrative all the time. It's like, well, people are terrible and they're keeping it a secret from us, but we know it's the truth and we're going to figure out it's the truth and then we're going to blame them for it. And when you articulate that out loud to people who don't actually feel the way you're telling them they feel, well, they don't wind up supporting you. They wind up supporting someone who isn't bringing that discussion to the table at all. because it's not a founded one.
SPEAKER 01 :
With everything going on in the world right now, the economy, conflicts, the open border, spiraling national debt, the devastating inflation, it's critical that you have a plan for diversifying and protecting your savings. And that's why so many, including myself, have turned to precious metals like gold and silver to help protect our savings. And I've partnered with the top-rated precious metals company, GoldCo, to make that happen. It's a great company with a great reputation, and they could not have made the process any easier. And right now, Gold Co. is offering a free gold and silver kit that will show you how precious metals can help protect and diversify your savings. And for my audience, they're offering up to a 10% instant match in bonus silver on qualified orders. All you have to do is visit danalikesgold.com to get started today. GoldCo has helped thousands of Americans place over $3 billion in gold and silver, and they can help you as well. Join thousands who trust GoldCo. Visit DanaLikesGold.com.
SPEAKER 07 :
And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
SPEAKER 08 :
The Trump FCC chair has announced that they're going to investigate NPR and PBS, which is awesome for misuse of funds for all kinds of things, for running commercials that we don't actually know are commercials for a myriad of problems. That's what will be investigated. And it seems to make a whole lot of sense. Brennan Carr is the individual's name. I just recently appointed and going to go after bureaucratic corruption within the world of some state funded basically media. That seems like a really good call. And we're going to see a lot of these headlines in all these different industries, all these different fields as people continue to get to be put in positions of power. Another thing out there that I thought was interesting, millions of California drivers could have their vehicles taken away for being not safe on the road. This is a state that has a crap ton of people driving completely unroadworthy things. This reminds me of trains, planes and automobiles. One point six million vehicles. on the roadway that are likely deserving of some recall. Texas and Florida also came in high on this list, but California at the top, baby. That is a bad news for them. And just the amount of traffic. You don't even really need a car in parts of California. You could ride a bike and get there at the same speed and ride it on the highway as you were stuck in traffic the entirety of the time you're going places. An employee was injured. I can't get over this headline. I'm going to give myself a second. All right, we're going to do this. An employee was injured because of an exploding toilet in Pittsburgh. All right, hold on. Greg, come on. You're on the radio. Get it together. A worker was, I don't think, seriously injured. Hopefully, the mayor's office responded to this. We're not taking care of our own house, is what a council person said in response to an exploding toilet. Look, if I'm the worker, if I'm the individual and I have a potential for a lawsuit, but I have to admit that I was injured by an exploding toilet, I go ahead and go the other road on that. I swallowed that and bring that to the grave. It was a plumber who was traumatized. trying to fix something. So maybe it's not what you think it is. But when an individual's name is in the news and then also exploding toilet is in the news, a part of you wants to just get distance. At least I would want to get distance. So again, I feel like I would just let this thing go. But there are photos and even a video of the destroyed toilet that was being worked on. Sentences in this story. And, you know, it does seem bad. It does seem like that's the kind of thing you would not want to be part of your workday. And you know what? Depending on the money, I think if it's over a million bucks, I admit to being injured by an exploding toilet. If it's anything less than a million, I'm out. But if it's more or at least that amount, then I'm in again. All right. Two other quick stories. A mountain in New Zealand has been given personhood, which sounds abundantly stupid. The Maori name of the mountain is Taranaka Mayunga. I have no idea if I've just said that right. But Mount Taranaka apparently has now been recognized as a person because it helps protect it in some way, shape, or form. It's also thought of as sacred. So there's a religious component to this and then just a weird personhood component to it that I don't think many of us will recognize. I have no ill will toward a mountain. I will not pretend that it's a human being. One last one. Women feel invisible at a shockingly low age, according to a new study. By the age of 36, most women feel like people don't notice them anywhere near as much as they did before the age of 36. I'll tell you this is wrong. As somebody that's older than 36, I definitely still notice ladies above the age. And I've said this even though it might make my wife mad, but it's true. So don't worry. Wrong study. I thought this was really interesting, too. I mentioned Chicago a second ago. An inspector general dropped a crazy report that Mayor Brandon Johnson has a, quote, secret gift stash. It's the gift room is what he calls it. Chicago is one to be known to be quite corrupt in the world of politics. The Democratic City and also a lot of the state has had some corruption issues from time to time. I just love this. The hidden gift room, according to investigators, includes all kinds of things. Jewelry, whiskey, handbags, shoes. It's something that's kept off the records. It's actually within his personal office of Brandon Johnson. Just as scandalous, according to the report, the report reveals a system with no checks on the power of the mayor's office, which is unsurprising and actually at times something that has demonstrated to this mayor to be a problem for him because as he makes certain unilateral decisions, he winds up getting blamed by communities he expects to have support from for problems like the amount of illegal people that are now in Chicago and making it harder for people to live and work there. But I just find that amazing. Again, that you have a secret, quote, gift room. It sounds like the kind of thing that would be the end of a game show. Like you sit down with the mayor, you have whatever the meeting is, and then he asks you a few trivia questions, and if you get enough right, you get to take something from the gift room. Jewelry, whiskey, and handbags, and shoes. I don't know why I found that amazing, because that's quite the collection of items, too. I don't know if the shoes are like sneakers and stuff, Or if this is like shoes for ladies where he's given away these gifts to people and there's like a whole area that got curated by somebody else. I'm not really sure what that is. And again, just the whiskey situation would probably be the road I would go. I don't think the mayor of Chicago is going to invite me into the gift room anytime soon. I don't know if I'd get the trivia questions right. But if I had to pick the jewelry, the handbags, the shoes, those all feel like gifts for other people. And I'm not giving my gift room item away. I'm keeping it. So whiskey is the road I'm going again. I can't get over this, though, like this is this is extreme in the way that very few things are in our society. In reality, this is the Bob Menendez gold bar version of an accusation in the city of Chicago. And I feel like we're going to see a lot more of this. The amount of corruption, the amount of ridiculousness that exists in D.C. or throughout politics, throughout the country, and the people in positions of power, like Kash Patel soon hopefully will be, will demonstrate just how broken the bureaucracy of this system is and how in need of fixing it is. And nothing would be more ridiculous than getting to stand in somebody's gift room and be like, yeah, you shouldn't have this. This is something that shouldn't exist right now. But since I'm here, I'll take a little bit of that, a little bit of that. And thank you so much for everything, sir. This has been wonderful. All right. No, it's been horrible, actually, is how you'd probably react to the gift room if you had any sense of, you know, right and wrong, which a lot of our politicians don't.
SPEAKER 06 :
Thanks for tuning in to today's edition of Dana Lash's Absurd Truth Podcast. If you haven't already, make sure to hit that subscribe button on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts.
More details are released about the fatal plane crash in Washington, DC including the elevation of the Blackhawk Helicopter and the shortage of staffing at Reagan National Airport. A US Circuit Court of Appeals finds the ban of firearm sales for those 18-21 years old is unconstitutional. Kash Patel kept Democrats in line during his Confirmation Hearing in the House. The DNC held a panel asking if racism played a role in Kamala Harris’ defeat in which the crowd was told they “passed”. A report drops that Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson has a “hidden gift room” including jewelry, shoes and whiskey. Hakeem Jeffries says he is going to fight Trump’s policies “in the streets”. Sen. Rand Paul doesn’t hold back at RFK Jr. 's Confirmation Hearing about the forced vaccinations to newborn babies.
Please visit our great sponsors:
All Family Pharmacy
https://AllFamilyPharmacy.com/Dana
Use code Dana10 for 10% off your entire order.
2025 is a great time to think about your self-defense options. Visit Byrna.com/Dana to receive 10% off your purchase.
Goldco
Get your free Gold and Silver kit and see if your order qualifies for a 10% instant match in bonus silver. Visit https://DanaLikesGold.com
HumanN
Support your metabolism and healthy blood sugar levels with Superberine by HumanN. Find it now at your local Sam’s Club next to SuperBeets Heart Chews.
KelTec
Innovation. Performance. Keltec. Learn more at KelTecWeapons.com today.
https://GetNativePath.com/Dana
Stock up on NativePath Collagen for up to 45% off, plus free shipping!
Patriot Mobile
https://patriotmobile.com/Dana
Make the switch today and get a FREE MONTH of service with promo code Dana at PatriotMobile.com/Dana.
PreBorn
https://preborn.com/danaDuring Sanctity of Life month donate securely by dialing #250 and say keyword BABY or visit Preborn.com/DANA.
ReadyWise
Use promo code Dana20 to save 20% on your entire purchase.
Relief Factor
Turn the clock back on pain with Relief Factor. Get their 3 week quick start for only $19.95 today! Call 1-800-4-RELIEF or visit ReliefFactor.com
Tax Network USA
Don’t let the IRS’s aggressive tactics control your life empower yourself with Tax Network USA’s support. Call 1(800)958-1000 or visit TNUSA.com/DANA
SPEAKER 21 :
If you like true crime, you'll love the Miracle Files podcast.
SPEAKER 22 :
We share real stories with the suspense of true crime, but we'll leave you with a sense of light and hope.
SPEAKER 21 :
Like the college wrestler who fought a grizzly, the woman who was dead for nearly an hour, or the child lost in a dark mine for days. These are the kind of stories that remind us miracles are real.
SPEAKER 22 :
Subscribe to The Miracle Files wherever you get your podcasts and join us on this thrilling journey of faith and miracles.
SPEAKER 05 :
This is The Dana Show. My name is Craig Collins. In with you again. Thrilled to be here. Dana will be back on Monday. Thanks so much for letting me jump in. D-Lash and Dana Lash Radio, two great ways to stay connected to her. on Twitter. More information is coming out about the plane crash, the horrific plane crash between an American Airlines flight out of Kansas that was landing near Washington, D.C., and a U.S. Army Black Hawk helicopter. I'm going to play a couple different pieces of information out there, but I'll start with this. This was the breaking coverage last night on ABC. Two very big aspects of that will be talked about quite a bit moving forward are why the Blackhawk helicopter was flying higher than it's supposed to fly, apparently the limit. And this is all stuff, it's weird, I'll say this quickly too, this is all stuff we as the general public learn after something horrific like this happens. But a Blackhawk helicopter is only supposed to fly at about 200 feet. This one was flying at 350 feet in the air. That's bad. And then also they were understaffed. But here, this is all stuff that ABC will tell you in case somebody thinks that the dirty, horrible person who might have voted for Trump is lying on the radio again, which I'm not and do not do. Here we go.
SPEAKER 29 :
As investigators search the wreckage of that mid-air disaster in the icy Potomac River, an early focus is the flight path of that Army Black Hawk helicopter. That chopper appeared to be flying at about 350 feet, according to early flight data, when it should have been flying under 200 feet. Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth tonight.
SPEAKER 11 :
The military does dangerous things. It does routine things on the regular basis. Tragically, last night, a mistake was made. There was some sort of an elevation issue.
SPEAKER 05 :
Now, it's interesting that Hegseth is already having to deal with this, obviously just being confirmed recently to this role. But some sort of an elevation issue is an interesting statement as you hear the discussion going. And people who feel as though conspiracy theory type questions, if that's what you want to call them, deserve to be asked, will feel stronger about their opinion, knowing that something was going on that shouldn't have been and knowing that the people flying the Blackhawk helicopter were experienced. That doesn't mean that conspiracy theory is true in this case. I'll say that as well. And again, I'm not always sure if I like calling these things conspiracy theories. Sometimes they're just questions that deserve to be asked and you deserve to get answers on them. But this will be one of those things. Also understaffing.
SPEAKER 29 :
was an issue and this is something that abc also touched just in the country and tonight a source with direct knowledge confirming reports that the air traffic controller on duty was performing the job normally done by two controllers bad this is usually done when there's less air traffic but last night that change from two controllers to one was made 40 minutes earlier than usual because of lighter traffic yeah see that's all very very bad um but here's the thing
SPEAKER 05 :
The biggest takeaway from yesterday, and this is from Donald Trump, President Trump's press conference, he said that DEI may have played a part in this. That's something that was stated out loud. And then media freaked out about that. People who decided not to do their job and keep getting information and instead said that Trump has no way to prove what he's saying is true. I find that very interesting because first and foremost, if you are doing a good job as media, your job should be to figure out what the truth is, not to reject a potential truth simply because you don't like a person. It doesn't mean that you accept his statement either. You go look for what actually occurred and the amount of arrogant media people who yesterday definitively spoke as though there's no way this could be true. How dare you? And they don't actually know the answer. They just know that they don't think that Donald Trump tells the truth or they know something else about the scenario that has nothing to do with the facts of this. So let's dive into the facts one day later, because it is interesting. You had a former air traffic control person, former individual who worked in exactly these jobs. Pop up last night in Fox News. The guy's name is Michael Pearson, and he pointed to some decisions that were made all the way back in 2010. Now, granted, You might still not think that this is accurate or you might think this is very accurate as the inevitable cause of a horrific accident in 2025. But this is actually trying to look for answers and getting information from people who would say that they can prove that thing that Trump said yesterday is definitively accurate. Here we go.
SPEAKER 27 :
This is a preventable disaster. This is this. The system has been under attack through the DEI. and the FAA bowing to wokeness since 2010, since the Obama administration. The lack of staffing is directly attributable to the Obama administration terminating the list of eligible, well-trained air traffic control statements in 36 universities across the country in 2013 because they were too white.
SPEAKER 05 :
Let's stop it right there. Now, here's what's interesting about this. And I know this is sort of a deep dive into this one topic, but I can't get over it. Whenever you know someone who has one set of political opinions, and this is just an everyday person, your friend, your brother, I don't care who it is. And then you know someone who has a very different set of, say, political opinions. Whoever the messenger is matters more than the message. So if I say Fox News, somebody on the far left will be like, oh, Terrible. How dare you? And the same as I was pointing out a second ago is true about Trump. When someone says President Trump said this, ah, horrible. How dare anybody say this? So let's change the messenger, shall we? Let's pull audio, which I found and has been going viral of Representative Jasmine Crockett. bragging, she is definitely a Democrat, a black woman, by the way, bragging about those changes that were just referenced on Fox News last night, bragging about the way in which the Obama administration specifically tried to force the FAA to hire people based on their race and not based on their skill set. And it is absolutely true that they rescinded a list of colleges, universities, schools, that were providing air traffic controllers to the FAA, this happened years ago, because those schools weren't diverse enough. And instead, they incentivized schools that would be, well, overwhelmingly different than the schools that were on the list so far, simply because of race. These are typically historically black colleges and whatnot. And again, I know I'm a messenger. I know somebody can try to shoot me. Let's let Representative Jasmine Crockett say it.
SPEAKER 02 :
I think that I've been somewhat effective. We also were able to get monumental legislation into the FAA Reauthorization Act that really flew under the radar, thank God. But this was funding to make sure that hopefully we can increase the number of African Americans and Hispanics that are entering aviation, which can be very expensive, but can obviously be very lucrative. And so we set up a situation where basically there will be full rides for those attending land grant HBCUs as well as HSIs to go into aviation. In this crazy anti-DEI environment, we were able to get that done because we were working with everybody that mattered.
SPEAKER 05 :
And because there was a shortage of staffing from the way in which you try to prevent the FAA from hiring people that they thought were qualified because those people were white. This is bad. This should be thought of as bad for everyone. And again, I want to be super clear. I want to be ridiculously clear, overly clear when I say this. I don't care what you look like. I don't care if you're black, if you're white, if you're a man, if you're a woman. I do not care if you're good at this job. We need people who are good at this job to do this job. Go get the job and do it. When you say out loud, how dare someone change something because it somehow impacts, say, you know, white people or whoever in some situation, an individual who wants to argue with you does not hear your statement and instead hears a statement you don't make. And the statement they're hearing is, I don't want people who look a certain way to have a certain job. And that's not remotely true. I couldn't tell you more candidly and more directly how untrue of a statement that is and how ridiculous it is when people argue that crap. What is true, though, is that people who are qualified deserve these jobs. And again, go look for it yourself, because I hate how much we reject the message because of the messenger. And again, I want to be super clear about that, too, so that no one misunderstands what I'm saying. I don't think you should accept the message because of the messenger. I think you should go figure out if the message is accurate. I think that's what we should always do. It's the reason I've been critical of things that people say on both sides of the aisle. It's the reason that people who are very good at this job, Dana certainly among them, will reject things said on both sides of the aisle. Because the truth is far more important than whatever the crap narrative you're getting from someone who might be motivated to lie to you is. And, you know, potentially occasionally those individuals might actually tell you the truth. You have to go in with a fresh set of downs. You have to go in completely starting at the beginning here and hope that no ref makes a Patrick Mahomes style call at the end of this thing to trick you into believing something that's wrong. I like the sports reference there. All right, one last thing I want to play. I know there was a deep dive into that topic, but I believe it deserves more attention, more discussion, and I believe the fact that the helicopter was too high, that the plane was rerouted kind of late in its decision on where exactly it was going to land, and also that it was just one air traffic controller working, and also understaffing exists within that industry because of policies that have been passed all the way back in 2010 and continued policies being passed in that world. as recently as 2024. All right, one last thing I want to play before I take a break. This is Hakeem Jeffries doing the annoying, we're all in this together thing that Democrats often do when they speak. And the thing we're in together is just going to fight anything that Trump wants to pass in the streets, anywhere. Because, again, the boogeyman and the bad guy needs to be fought regardless of if the thing he's doing might actually be good. It could be good. It could be bad. Irrelevant to us. We care more about the messenger than the message. Here's Akeem Jeffries saying the quiet part out loud.
SPEAKER 25 :
We are going to fight it legislatively. We are going to fight it in the courts. We're going to fight it in the streets.
SPEAKER 05 :
We're fighting in the streets, baby. We're doing everything we can, regardless of what the decision is. Trump can go out there and say the most democratic thing ever. And they would be like, no, we don't want that. We don't want you to do it. That's part of the problem. All right. Quick break. A lot coming up. Craig Collins filling in on the Dana show.
SPEAKER 18 :
Achieving vibrant youthful skin doesn't have to be complicated. With the power of Native Path Collagen, you can nourish your body from within and enhance not just your skin, but also your hair, your nails. By incorporating Native Path Collagen into your daily routine, you can promote a plump, radiant complexion, reduce signs of aging, and boost your overall vitality. all without any unnecessary fillers or additives native path collagen has only type one and three collagen the most important types making up 90 of your body's collagen no artificial sweeteners just pure third-party tested goodness it's completely flavorless so you can just add it to about anything your coffee your smoothies oatmeal or whatever you want and the best part is that native paths peptides formula makes it more bioavailable so it means your body will absorb it easily Start your journey to healthier skin today. Get native path.com slash Dana and stock up on native path collagen and save up to an incredible 45% off plus free shipping. Every order includes a 365 day money back guarantee. Don't miss out. Head to get native path.com slash Dana.
SPEAKER 08 :
Donald Trump is sworn in as president again. Joe Biden preemptively pardons political allies and more family members as he exits. And the American people strongly back the new president on deportations and transgender policy. I'm Greg Karumbas. Join Jim Garrity of National Review and me each weekday for the Three Martini Lunch podcast. We'll give you the good, bad, and crazy news of the day, and hopefully a lot of laughs too. Follow the Three Martini Lunch on Apple, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts.
SPEAKER 13 :
not able to catch the full dana show follow dana's absurd truth podcast and get news and laughs delivered in short easy to digest episodes ideal for your busy lifestyle on apple or wherever you get your podcast this is the dana show let's fire off a quick five and now all of the news you would probably miss it's time for dana's quick five
SPEAKER 05 :
All right, that's awesome. My name is Craig Collins, by the way. First, would you rather have extra love, extra money, or extra time? That was a question that was asked online to people. I don't know what extra love means. I think you can use your imagination as to what specifically people are talking about. The love of another individual or something else. But anyway, people didn't want that one. People wanted money. Whole bunch of cash. 46% of people. who were asked this question said, give me more money. 29% said, give me more time. I think with more money, you might actually be able to get more time as well. And then finally, 24% was like, yeah, I need some love from real humans and not AI robots. That's a story that I talked about the other day that's terrifying, the amount of people turning to AI relationships. Amazon is apparently going to be raising its spending on X on Twitter. This is good news, and this is a reversal from when it said very wokely just a short time ago, how dare Elon Musk do terrible things with X, like make free speech real on one of the social media platforms and not overly marginalize just one side of opinions. Now they're coming back. That's after they all hung out together at Trump's inauguration. This also may be true of Apple returning to the platform and spending money on it. Elon Musk is going to make a whole bunch of money having bought Twitter and then hung on to it as long as he did. To me, I find that hilarious as well. 24% of people say it's easier to fall asleep with a TV blaring, not just on, but turned up more than loud enough to understand what's going on. This surprises the rest of us who actually like quiet things. But yes, 24% of people like a very loud or just regularly loud television while going to sleep. My mom's in that bucket. I remember as a kid, if you heard the TV on and it was, you know, Jay Leno or something late enough at night, you knew you could sneak out because she was asleep, which is not something I should say on the radio. But darn it, it's been enough years. If my mother listens to this, I think I'll be okay, which I love. I do love that part. But that's a tip to parents out there. your kids might be timing the moment in which they duck out of the house to how loud your TV is at night. So quick tip for anyone trying to prevent that. One other thing that I saw out there, And I might dive into more of these later. There is a list of food hot takes on BuzzFeed that is causing people to debate whether any of these things are true or whether they're horrible, terrible opinions that people have. Like mint chocolate ice cream is gross and tastes like toothpaste. That is one hot take that's out there. I kind of like that one. Mushrooms are the devil's food, meaning mushrooms are also terrible. A box macaroni and cheese is better than the version you get inside of restaurants. A lot of these are just young, just, you know, childish opinions, I would think, more so than criminally wrong. But I do like that they're out there. And then finally, one last thing, and I have some audio. Let's see if we can play some audio on this one. A woman was accused of throwing a brick through her ex-husband's window and got in trouble for that. Banging on you?
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, I'm trying to get in touch with my ex-husband. I banged on the door because he won't let me in. You live here or not?
SPEAKER 31 :
Did you launch anything in there? Yeah, you did. You sure?
SPEAKER 15 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 31 :
You cannot afford a lawyer?
SPEAKER 15 :
For what? For breaking the window? I didn't break the window.
SPEAKER 31 :
I didn't do that. We'll speak about that now.
SPEAKER 15 :
I did not break the window.
SPEAKER 31 :
Do you want to speak to me about it? We can, but I'll have to read you the same rights.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yes, I want to speak with you. Yes, I want to speak with you. I did not break the window.
SPEAKER 31 :
Just give me a second. I'm going to read you the rights and then we'll go from there, okay?
SPEAKER 15 :
Wait, officer. Officer? I did not break the window.
SPEAKER 05 :
We got video you breaking the window, lady. Not only do we have video, we very clearly can tell it's you. Sabrina is her name. She's mad about something involving her ex-husband. So she brick windowed his house and then got in trouble for that. That is something else. Apparently it was also on the anniversary of their first date back in 2020. So whatever the fight was, she might have been harboring some anger for a little bit of time. She might have been hanging on to this one, which for some reason, as a guy who's been married for a bit, I kind of love that, too. But all right. Quick break. A lot coming up. Craig Collins filling in on the Dana show.
SPEAKER 18 :
The folks who will make it possible are friends over at Tax Network USA. They help you with the government theft service. I mean, the IRS, right? That's yeah, that's what they're called. Tax Network USA understands that with the hiring of all of these thousands of IRS workers, they're sending millions of pay up notices for 25. Right. So if you are stressed about the IRS or you're worried about collection tactics, you You don't have to face them alone. So they're in full collections mode. Contact Tax Network USA to get personalized support. You can reduce or eliminate your debt. And they have strategic advice to set you up, making sure that you have the best possible solution for your situation. And they've saved their clients over a billion dollars. So schedule a complimentary consultation today. Call 1-800-958-1000 or visit TNUSA.com slash Dana. That's 1-800-958-1000 TNUSA.com slash Dana. Take control of your financial future today.
SPEAKER 13 :
The Dana Show podcast, your fast, funny, and informative news companion for those always on the move. Subscribe on YouTube, Apple, or wherever you get your podcasts.
SPEAKER 05 :
This is The Dana Show. My name is Greg Collins filling in. Dana will be back on Monday. D-Lash, Dana Lash Radio on X on Twitter to stay connected to her the best way you possibly can. A whole bunch of great stuff being put up on social media the last couple days from Dana. Let's start with this. A U.S. ban on gun sales, federally licensed firearm dealer sales to 18 to 21 year olds has been rescinded. A U.S. court has found it unconstitutional. A court of appeals and. Duh, is my reaction to this story. It's crazy it took this long, and it's crazy it took a Supreme Court ruling just about a year ago or so to say that the Constitution is fairly clear in the way in which it phrases certain rights and that the people would include 18 to 21-year-olds and not exclude them like this ban has tried to do. But New Orleans, their appeals court, the Fifth U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals, decided that things make sense again. If you can defend our country, if you can be handed a firearm and told to go into a foreign country and fight an enemy, then you should be able to buy one legally. This is a dumb moment, if ever I've seen one, to me. And I'll go ahead and say one other thing, because I know what the argument is out there for people on the other side, that a lot of kind of bad moments that we've seen in our society involve younger people, people who take the lives of others. The way in which you combat that is not to try to make something like this illegal, because guess what? Even if there was a ban in place, it hasn't seemed to change any of that information. That matters when you make those discussions. Instead, I think mental health is the proponent of the thing that we need to be focused on instead of just hoping that banning something would somehow make it less likely for the people who most want to do harm getting whatever they need to do harm. That will never not be the case. Even if you fully banned this, that, what have you in the world, they'll find another way. Evil does evil. We need to combat evil differently. But I know that that's the biggest narrative on the other side. All right. Kash Patel did a great job yesterday during his hearing to be confirmed. One of the nominations put forward by Trump that a lot of Democrats freaked out about. I have a couple of great freak out moments and then a very good reaction from Ted Cruz about how many misses Democrats took. Let's start with Cory Booker, who is very annoying as a person to me. But let's start with him.
SPEAKER 17 :
In this we are agreement, Senator. Get my grand jury testimony. I want it made public. I asked the Department of Justice to make it public and they refused to do so.
SPEAKER 06 :
There is no legal bound against you telling us right now what you testified to.
SPEAKER 17 :
When I asked for my transcript to be released... Sir, did you or did you not commit a crime? Senator, I did not commit a crime.
SPEAKER 06 :
Then why won't you tell us what you testified to?
SPEAKER 17 :
Because it occurred over the course of three weeks. I don't have the ability to recall everything I testified to, but I'm asking you to put my transcript down.
SPEAKER 05 :
Here's what I love so much about this back and forth. Kash Patel is saying the thing that matters most out loud. If you think there's something bad in any of the information that I gave to the government at a different time, just release all of it. just put every piece of information out there in the world let people dissect it and review it let's go ahead and do that you won't do that i know you won't do that because apparently there's stuff you asked me about and i gave answers about that you don't want public but you're going to pretend as though your decision to hide something is actually my desire to have it hidden so i'm begging you to put it out there for all the world to see that's a great way to handle The what secrets are you keeping a version of a question that's being thrown at and asked of him. He's not keeping any. He wants the totality of the information released. And even better than an answer I've heard from most people when they say, why won't you answer this question? He says it's three weeks. It's tons of hours of communication. I couldn't possibly tell you everything I said. And honestly, this whole hearing would last a lot longer if I did, if I actually had perfect recall of all of that stuff. But please just release it all. Let's get this done a different way. Adam Schiff, also a person being very annoying while talking to Kash Patel. Here's a little of that.
SPEAKER 09 :
I want you to turn around. There are Capitol Police officers behind you. They're guarding us. Take a look at them right now. Turn around. I'm looking at you.
SPEAKER 17 :
You're talking to me.
SPEAKER 09 :
Look at them. I want you to look at them if you can, if you have the courage to look them in the eye, Mr. Patel, and tell them you're proud of what you did. Tell them you're proud that you raised money off of people that assaulted their colleagues, that pepper-sprayed them, that beat them with poles. Tell them you're proud of what you did, Mr. Patel. They're right there. They're guarding you today. Tell them how proud you are.
SPEAKER 17 :
That's an abject lie, and you know it.
SPEAKER 03 :
I've never... Oh, my God.
SPEAKER 17 :
Never... ever accepted violence against law enforcement. I've worked with these men and women, as you know, my entire life, and I did not make a single dime out of it.
SPEAKER 09 :
How about you ask them if I have their backs, and let's see about that answer.
SPEAKER 05 :
Oh my God, that's so good. How about you ask them if I support them, if they support me, and see what that answer is like? Here's the problem with Kash Patel for Democrats, the problem with Kash Patel. He's incredibly qualified for the position he's been nominated for. He's not like the individuals that they can go after the record of. by saying you just don't know what you're going to do. You don't know how to be in charge of this part of our government because there's no way that you could know. You don't have the record for it. That's not true. So instead, they're going to go after these radical, crazy things. And Kash Patel did an amazing job, I personally think, in fighting back against it. And even the performative moment of you turn around and look at these people and you tell them something the way I want you to say it and see how that goes. So maybe we can get this as some sort of moment that gets played on all the news stations that want the narrative to be totally different, as if you just did this yourself. You could even pull out him telling Cash Patel to do it and just have the video of him doing it without it, which is one reason that Cash didn't play along to the stupidity of that moment. But here's Ted Cruz on the totality of this thing.
SPEAKER 28 :
I think the Democrats, they tried to put on a circus. They screamed, they yelled, they stomped their little feets, they beat the table. But at the end of the day, what is really striking is none of them made a serious argument that Kash Patel is not qualified. He spent nearly two decades working in law enforcement. He's been a federal public defender. He's been a federal prosecutor. He's worked in the National Security Division of the Department of Justice. He's been a senior national security staffer on Capitol Hill. He's worked in the National
SPEAKER 05 :
uh... see uh... see security apparatus in the white house he's been the chief of staff at the department of defense i mean his experiences extensive what this bona fides are great uh... the problem is that they're afraid he's gonna go after them and he very well might uh... weaponizing a part of our our government very differently than the fbi has been weaponized the past i don't think that's actually true by the way i don't think that finding people who are guilty of crimes is weaponizing anything I think, making up crimes, pretending you're guilty of something you're not guilty of, or, I don't know, inflating what would normally be a misdemeanor into a felony charge, and then saying that someone was guilty of 34 of those, that feels like weaponizing a government system or the judicial system. Just finding people who are guilty of stuff. And you know who might actually be one of the first people, if I was Kash Patel, I'd sit down with and have a conversation? Bob Menendez. The recently disgraced and sentenced to 11 years in jail, Senator Democrat, who's definitely got some problems and some gold bars that got taken away from him because he's ready to chirp, baby. He's ready to tell all the stories about all the other people doing the same stuff he's doing. So that would probably be interview number one for me, especially after Bob Menendez in a press conference just the other day said that Trump was right about everything. All right, let's do this. This is JD Vance in a one-on-one conversation talking about some of the things we need to do differently, that this administration will do differently. I think some of this stuff is great, too.
SPEAKER 10 :
We need to spend, obviously, more on defense to make our country safer. We also have to spend smarter on defense. Our procurement process is totally broken. The way that we actually buy weapons has become totally broken. that we've made it harder for new entrants, new companies to develop new technologies. We've learned this in Russia, Ukraine. We've learned this elsewhere. The face of the modern battlefield has changed. It's going to keep on changing, and America has to keep pace with that change. And I think what Doge is going to do, it's going to save money. And I really believe it's already identified a lot of cost savings. And again, we're eight days into this thing, Sean. It's going to identify a lot more cost savings. The most important thing that it's going to do, I don't even think it's the cost savings. It's making the bureaucracy responsive to the elected president.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yes. Oh, I love the way that that's articulated at the end of there. I don't mean to turn into my own when Harry met Sally moment, but yes, that is absolutely right. Be more responsive. to the decision-making, the orders, executive and whatnot of the current president. That's what suspending funding for a couple days did. It woke up the system. Even if they knew they were going to reverse course on some of that, and even if they don't truly reverse course, but at least rescind their memo, this woke up everyone who just ignores who's ever in charge. You know what's funny about this, too? I don't always think this is a bad thing. It is in government. But what I'm about to say, I don't think is always a bad thing. I've worked in places where there's a corporate owner of whatever you're doing and the corporate owner changes. You go from one guy to another group of people and some of the people you work with on the ground level of whatever it is you're at. Act like that's no big deal. Like, oh, yeah, these people are in charge now and these other people used to be in charge. And I've always thought that was weird. In my own personal life, to be like, well, do the new guys have any thoughts? Do they want us to do some stuff differently? Are they passing on any sort of recommendations that we're going to follow or we're not going to follow? And oftentimes, the people who are actually in the position of power locally are like, we don't know. We're not paying attention to that until it's too late. And that's amazing to me. And I think that happens a lot of places. And I think the scariest place that happens is our government, where someone like a Trump can take power. And all of the bureaucracy, all of the far left-leaning individuals in those positions that are lifetime employment positions for them, just ignore it. Just go, ah, it's fine. We'll do all of this under the covers still, and no one will know what's going on. This is finally the wake-up call of, you can't do that. And I do think that's awesome. I do think that's wonderful. And we'll see exactly how well it works moving forward. but it's certainly the kind of thing that you don't see a whole lot of. A lot of government just lets itself keep doing horrible stuff. All right, one last thing, and I just found this funny, so I'll play this before I take a pause. This is the outgoing DNC chief, Jamie Harrison, saying that he wants Kamala Harris to run again in 2028. If that occurs, great, is I think what a whole lot of people who would easily see a Kamala losing again to anybody would expect to happen. But again, if she actually ran for real, she might not gain the nomination. That's the thing that I think matters too. But here's what the DNC chief had to say about that.
SPEAKER 31 :
So looking ahead, should Kamala Harris run again? Yes, she wants to. You think she could win?
SPEAKER 30 :
I believe she can. I mean, if I didn't believe Kamala Harris could win, I wouldn't have worked as hard as I did to help her win this last time around. You know, Donald Trump, and when you look at politics, Donald Trump and Barack Obama... If I had bingo...
SPEAKER 05 :
every time they just mentioned Donald Trump. Should Kamala Harris run again in 2028 was the question. It took you 15 seconds to mention Donald Trump's name twice. That seems bad. But no, she probably can't even win the nomination, much less win an election. And there's a lot of reasons why, and you would have known them, The reason he worked so hard to get her elected is she's the only one that wanted to dive on the grenade that was the last four or five months trying to beat Donald Trump in an election. No one else even wanted to do it from the Democratic side of the aisle. That says something. I'm not sure about that. That's my assumption more than anything else, and also the amount of money that Joe Biden had already collected that you wanted to go to someone. The only person you could legally give it to was Harris, so that's who you gave it to, and you failed spectacularly. But sure, set it all up and go again in 2028. A whole lot of people on the other side of the aisle would say thank you as you elect J.D. Vance the next president of the country. All right, quick break. A lot coming up. Craig Collins filling in on The Dana Show.
SPEAKER 18 :
This sanctity of life month, we pause to reflect on the heartbreaking reality that more than 66 million babies have lost their lives due to abortion since Roe v. Wade. In 2023, over 1 million babies were aborted, the highest number in over a decade. Yet in this darkness, hope shines through organizations like Preborn. Preborn has rescued over 300,000 babies from abortion, and every day, on average, they rescue 200-plus babies. When a woman considering an abortion hears her infant's heartbeat and sees her baby on an ultrasound, her baby's chance at life doubles. Preborn shares free heartbeats and God's love for mother and child, and they just need some help. For $28, the cost of a dinner, you can sponsor an ultrasound and introduce a mother to her baby for the very first time. 100% of your donation will go towards saving babies. Will you help? Just dial pound 250, that's hashtag for you zygotes out there, and say the keyword baby. That's pound 250, baby, or donate securely at preborn.com slash Dana. Donate today for the sanctity of life at preborn.com slash Dana.
SPEAKER 13 :
On the go and need a quick news fix with a fun twist? Follow Dana's Absurd Truth Podcast for bite-sized informative episodes, perfect for your busy schedule on Apple or wherever you get your podcasts.
SPEAKER 05 :
This is the Dana Show. My name is Craig Collins filling in. Thrilled to be with you. Lots of stuff to talk about out there. A 94-year-old woman in Texas was pulled over after going 106 miles an hour on an interstate in Oregon. She's from Texas, excuse me. She was in Oregon when she did this. A hundred and six. I've made several jokes about how there's an age in which you really stop caring about the rules of the road, because in all honesty, what's the worst thing that's going to happen to you? I know people who I think fall into that category. This feels like someone else who lives that life. It's not a life I encourage. I'm not telling you to do it, but it apparently seems like something that she was definitely, you know, just did not give a crap at all about because there was no medical issue. She's pulled over and she was asked how fast she was going. I wonder if they also asked her like what song she was listening to when she took off at 106 on an interstate in Oregon. I'm guessing it was Hagar, but who knows? It could have been anything. There's a danger zone might have popped up too, and she just decided, I'm going. No one's stopping me. Another thing out there that I love as far as just a silly story, apparently Chili's is the hottest restaurant in the country. 31% increased sales year over year, and certainly just doing better and better. 20% increase in foot traffic. Chili's is on fire in the world of people going there, and it's mostly young people. I remember at a different radio stop in my career, I had a Gen Z producer, a young guy, and I was asking him, like, what's his favorite restaurant to go to? And he definitively said Chili's. Like, oh, we love it. We love it for date night. We love it for anything. Him and his friends. And I thought that was weird. Nothing against Chili's. I'm not trying to besmirch it, but I thought that it was kind of similar to some of those other national change that are much like it. But apparently I was wrong. He told me all the great things about the Chili's, mostly the advertising on TikTok, the advertising on social media. It is amazing. how much impact TikTok can have on the decision-making of the young. Trump credits it with some amount of his victory in an election. If you make something cool on TikTok, you have a great chance of making it something that actually is successful with young people in the world. Maybe there are certain industries that could use some additional listens, additional audience in the certain demographics that just need to dive into TikTok hard. Apparently, that's the right move there. And apparently, if you want to try to go viral, one thing you could do is just collect really cool sticks. I'm not lying. There's a subset of people on TikTok that call themselves Stick Talk. And they find cool sticks in the forest. And then they discuss them online on the Internet. And other people seem to love it.
SPEAKER 23 :
What is up, Stick Nation? This is my official submission. This stick was growing through. amazing stick. One of one. You will never find another stick like this.
SPEAKER 05 :
I have to tell you that if it was me back in high school and a kid came into our school and talked about his wizard casting staff stick that he found, he would not be thought of as cool. But in the world of TikTok, apparently you can go viral, baby. So that's it. That's how it works. Quick break. A lot more. Greg Collins filling in.
SPEAKER 18 :
formulated with an ingredient that helps to support all of that. Clinically researched, real results, super convenient, used by doctors from the makers of Super Beats Heart Chews. So head to your nearest Sam's Club, save on the Super Beats Heart Chews and the Super Berberine, made with clinically researched berberine. And you'll love the way it makes you feel. Only at Sam's Club.
SPEAKER 05 :
This is the Dana Show. My name is Craig Collins filling in. Thrilled to be with you. Dean Lash, Dana Lash Radio. Great ways to stay connected to her. This is hilarious as just like an update out there in the world. Apparently, the White House stenographers are having a really difficult time keeping up with Donald Trump because he says a lot of words. President Trump speaks often. It's utterly different. than Joe Biden, than President Biden in such a fantastic way. Like in all honesty, if you hate the guy or love the guy, getting information from him, getting statements from him is one of the easiest things that's ever existed. for media and finding President Biden, you had to like go into the closet they were keeping him in and beg him to speak to you. And then he had to look at six other people and get something written on a piece of paper before he was allowed to speak. That is not the challenge with President Trump. Not at all. 22,000 words spoken on Inauguration Day by the president, 17,000 after visiting a disaster site in North Carolina and California. Apparently, the people who are supposed to transcribe all these words have no idea how to do it. You need like two or three. You need them to tag each other in and out like it's a WWE match or something. That seems better to me. This seems great. All right, let's move on to this. The amount of failed, you know, they need to learn their lesson moments that exist for Democrats after this last election is simply through the roof. You can find example after example of someone saying on one of those platforms, you know, we need to do things differently. We need to think differently. We need to approach certain topics differently. And then you wait a couple minutes and they say exactly the same thing they've always done. They call Trump a fascist, whatever it is they need to do. That's the world we live in. This is one of those moments where every single candidate to be the new DNC chair blamed the 2024 loss on race and misogyny. They did not blame it on the fact that Kamala Harris couldn't answer basic questions, hated actually being asked direct questions about what she would do if she were the president, and instead all the time tried to crap on Trump. don't just blame the person that you're running against for being a bad, terrible person. Blame all the people who vote for that individual. That's the plan of the DNC. It's been the plan. It failed to work. It'll fail to work again. Here we go.
SPEAKER 26 :
This round, so I'm going to have a show of hands. How many of you believe that racism and misogyny played a role in Vice President Harris's defeat?
SPEAKER 05 :
All the hands go up. The whole audience laughs. There's people in the audience raising their hands to this question and joking about it.
SPEAKER 04 :
And it's amazing, man. That's good. You all pass. That's good.
SPEAKER 05 :
You all pass is the way that you respond to an MSNBC. Why is that a belief? And in all honesty, like truly, why is that a belief? I'll wait for someone to give me a real answer because I'll tell you, I'm a white guy. I'm about 40. I'm a millennial. And when you grow up in a world in which not only are you taught to what right and wrong is, and you're also told what beliefs you should have and what beliefs you shouldn't have from a very early age in school, which some people now call indoctrination and whatnot, but certainly been taught lesson after lesson about how bad racism is. You don't at all feel like you yourself are a racist in any capacity or a sexist or any of those other things. And more importantly, when you're specific to the 2024 election, you did not choose not to vote for Harris because she was not a white man. That wasn't the reason. You're like, well, I don't know if I can vote this person into power. Is that why Joe Biden got elected in 2020? Because he's a white dude? Is that why his poll numbers were so terrible? terrible absolutely atrocious going into 2024 because white people got confused is that what you think happened i i don't have an answer to that i just think it's crazy but here's what i'm trying to say about that that other stuff when you're raised in this world where you're taught certain things and you believe certain things uh and you you know uh grow to be the age where you're going to vote in an election and i don't mean just people in my generation i mean the youngest of people And the whole time you're being told by one side of the aisle that you're the problem. If you're a white dude, you're told you're the issue. You're the thing we need to change. And even in this moment, the DNC is saying out loud, everyone's raising their hands and they're all joking about it, that white people are racist or sexist or some version of that is the undercurrent of that message. Why would you vote that party into power? I'm not saying that you believe what they're saying is true. But if you were standing between two choices and one choice says you're the reason our society screwed up and the other choice doesn't bring that discussion to the table at all, it's kind of hard to listen to the narrative of the side that's telling you you're a bad person. It's usually not easy to be like, all right, I'm a bad person. What else you got? Let's go to option number two before we decide where to vote, especially when, and this is the thing I'm trying to make most clear, you're not a bad person. You're not doing anything remotely bad in your everyday life, actually, in those worlds. You're not behaving like a racist, a sexist. You don't hide any of those feelings. I'll actually go a step further. This is interesting to me, and it's just a personal experience I had. I remember this vividly. I was standing at a bus stop in Chicago, Illinois, on the south side of Chicago. I used to live in Chicago for a long time, not necessarily the south side. And I was just standing there waiting for a bus. And there were some other people standing near me, different collection of human beings, not all white people. And a black man walked past us. And he walked very close into the orbit of every individual who was standing at the bus stop. And I didn't move. And most of the people did. And again, they weren't all white. They were all different races and sexes of humans. And he invaded the space of every one of us. And I'll tell you the reason I didn't move. I didn't even pay attention to it. In the city of Chicago, sometimes there are people who get up in your space. And I was living there for long enough that I just didn't even notice. I think I was looking at my phone or something. And the guy came up to me and said, good job. And I looked at him. I'm like, what? He goes, you didn't move. Good job. Everybody else moved. They're afraid of me. And I don't even think I said anything to the guy after that happened. I just boarded the bus. But I kept thinking about it, that his life that day, what he was doing, I assume if he did that more than once, was testing people in a weird way and then deciding the reason they might have moved away from him is they were racist or something of a black guy. And the reason I didn't move had nothing to do with his race. Or if I had noticed him more, I also probably wouldn't have moved because, you know, I wouldn't have cared about that. It's just weird to get that close up into your space for no reason. But nonetheless, I didn't. It's the decision I made. And it's just weird for someone to then hold that chip. to hold that information in the back of their mind that people have to be racist and I'm going to prove it to myself in a weird way. And that seems to be the DNC's narrative all the time. It's like, well, people are terrible and they're keeping it a secret from us, but we know it's the truth and we're going to figure out it's the truth and then we're going to blame them for it. And when you articulate that out loud to people who don't actually feel the way you're telling them they feel, well, they don't wind up supporting you. They wind up supporting someone who isn't bringing that discussion to the table at all because it's not a founded one. All right, let's do this. I thought this was really interesting, too. I mentioned Chicago a second ago. An inspector general dropped a crazy report that Mayor Brandon Johnson has a, quote, secret gift stash. It's the gift room, is what he calls it. Chicago is one to be known to be quite corrupt in the world of politics. The Democratic City and also a lot of the state has had some corruption issues from time to time. I just love this. The hidden gift room, according to investigators, includes all kinds of things. Jewelry, whiskey, handbags, shoes. It's something that's kept off the records. It's actually within his personal office of Brandon Johnson. Just as scandalous, according to the report, the report reveals a system with no checks on the power of the mayor's office. which is unsurprising and actually at times something that has demonstrated to this mayor to be a problem for him because as he makes certain unilateral decisions, he winds up getting blamed by communities he expects to have support from for problems like the amount of illegal people that are now in Chicago and making it harder for people to live and work there. But I just find that amazing, again, that you have a secret, quote, gift room there. um it sounds like the kind of thing that would be the end of a game show like you sit down with the mayor uh you have whatever the meeting is and then he asks you a few trivia questions and if you get enough right you get to take something from the gift room uh jewelry whiskey and handbags and shoes i don't know why i found that amazing uh because that's quite the collection of items too i don't know if the shoes are like sneakers and stuff Or if this is like shoes for ladies where he's given away these gifts to people and there's like a whole area that got curated by somebody else. I'm not really sure what that is. And again, just the whiskey situation would probably be the road I would go. I don't think the mayor of Chicago is going to invite me into the gift room anytime soon. I don't know if I'd get the trivia questions right. But if I had to pick the jewelry, the handbags, the shoes, those all feel like gifts for other people. And I'm not giving my gift room item away. I'm keeping it. So whiskey is the road I'm going again. I can't get over this, though. This is extreme in the way that very few things are in our society and reality. This is the Bob Menendez gold bar version of an accusation in the city of Chicago. And I feel like we're going to see a lot more of this. The amount of corruption, the amount of ridiculousness that exists in D.C. or throughout politics, throughout the country, and the people in positions of power, like Kash Patel soon hopefully will be, will demonstrate just how broken the bureaucracy of this system is and how in need of fixing it is. And nothing would be more ridiculous than getting to stand in somebody's gift room and be like, yeah, you shouldn't have this. This is something that shouldn't exist right now. But since I'm here, I'll take a little bit of that, a little bit of that. And thank you so much for everything, sir. This has been wonderful. All right. No, it's been horrible, actually, is how you'd probably react to the gift room if you had any sense of, you know, right and wrong, which a lot of our politicians don't. All right. Quick break. A lot coming up. Craig Collins filling in on The Dana Show.
SPEAKER 18 :
I always carry. I have zero problem at all with using lethal force to protect myself or my loved ones. That said, I know that not everyone has the luxury of only going to places that dispel the gun-free zone nonsense. There are some people who live in cities who work in areas where Maybe they have firearms, but they're not allowed to carry them inside, you know, the workplace or in the city, etc. So this is consider it a way of diversifying your weapons array, because with the burn a gun, burn a gun doesn't care about gun free zones. There's no waiting period. There's no background check. They send it right to your front porch. And when you compare the Berna gun, if you're curious as to how it operates, with like a stun gun, a stun gun has one or two rounds. Berna has a five-round capacity of chemical irritant projectiles that can disable threats from up to 50 feet away. So that's a deterrent. And when you are disarmed from your nine millimeter or whatever it is that you carry, this is a good diverse option for you if you're not able to carry a firearm. Like I said, love my firearms, but I also like diversifying what I have in terms of self-defense and there's nothing wrong with that. This is the perfect time of the year. Everyone's all like new year, new me. I hate resolutions. I don't do them, but a lot of you do. If you're one out there looking at resolutions or maybe evaluating your self-defense options, visit Burna.com slash Dana. That's B-Y-R-N-A.com slash Dana. Look at the different models they have. The Burna SD is the most popular and get 10% off your purchase, but only at that URL.
SPEAKER 13 :
Make some common sense of the crazy headlines with the Dana Show podcast. Your on-the-go guide for getting up to speed on today's most important stories. Subscribe on YouTube, Apple, or your favorite podcast platform.
SPEAKER 05 :
This is the Dana Show. My name is Craig Collins filling in for the day. A D-Lash, Dana Lash radio on X on Twitter to stay connected. Let's do a quick five.
SPEAKER 07 :
And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
SPEAKER 05 :
The Trump FCC chair has announced that they're going to investigate NPR and PBS, which is awesome for misuse of funds for all kinds of things, for running commercials that we don't actually know are commercials for a myriad of problems. That's what will be investigated. And it seems to make a whole lot of sense. Brennan Carr is the individual's name. I just recently appointed and going to go after bureaucratic corruption within the world of some state funded basically media. That seems like a really good call. And we're going to see a lot of these headlines in all these different industries, all these different fields as people continue to get to be put in positions of power. Another thing out there that I thought was interesting, millions of California drivers could have their vehicles taken away for being not safe on the road. This is a state that has a crap ton of people driving completely unroadworthy things. This reminds me of trains, planes, and automobiles. 1.6 million vehicles. on the roadway that are likely deserving of some recall. Texas and Florida also came in high on this list, but California at the top, baby. That is a bad news for them. And just the amount of traffic. You don't even really need a car in parts of California. You could ride a bike and get there at the same speed and ride it on the highway as you were stuck in traffic the entirety of the time. You're going places. An employee was injured. I can't get over this headline. I'm going to give myself a second. All right, we're going to do this. An employee was injured because of an exploding toilet in Pittsburgh. All right, hold on. Greg, come on. You're on the radio. Get it together. A worker was, I don't think, seriously injured. Hopefully, the mayor's office responded to this. We're not taking care of our own house, is what a council person said in response to an exploding toilet.
SPEAKER 1 :
toilet.
SPEAKER 05 :
Look, if I'm the worker, if I'm the individual and I have a potential for a lawsuit, but I have to admit that I was injured by an exploding toilet, I go ahead and go the other road on that. I swallow that and bring that to the grave. It was a plumber who was trying to fix something. So maybe it's not what you think it is. But when an individual's name is in the news and then also exploding toilet is in the news, a part of you wants to just get distance. At least I would want to get distance. So again, I feel like I would just let this thing go. But there are photos and even a video of the destroyed toilet that was being worked on. Sentences in this story. And, you know, it does seem bad. It does seem like that's the kind of thing you would not want to be part of your workday. And you know what? Depending on the money, I think if it's over a million bucks, I admit to being injured by an exploding toilet. If it's anything less than a million, I'm out. But if it's more or at least that amount, then I'm in again. All right. Two other quick stories. A mountain in New Zealand has been given personhood, which sounds abundantly stupid. The Maori name of the mountain is Taranaka Mayunga. I have no idea if I've just said that right. But Mountain Taranaka apparently has now been recognized as a person because it helps protect it in some way, shape, or form. It's also thought of as sacred. So there's a religious component to this and then just a weird personhood component to it that I don't think many of us will recognize. I have no ill will toward a mountain. I will not pretend that it's a human being. One last one. Women feel invisible at a shockingly low age, according to a new study, by the age of 36. Most women feel like people don't notice them anywhere near as much as they did before the age of 36. I'll tell you this is wrong. As somebody that's older than 36, I definitely still notice ladies above the age. And I've said this, even though it might make my wife mad, but it's true. So don't worry. Wrong study. Quick break. A lot more. Craig Collins filling in.
SPEAKER 18 :
You know that Ivermectin, they talk about it in terms of prevention, etc. It's simple, fast and affordable to get it on all family pharmacy. These are doctors that you work with, like actual doctors, not like big pharma type doctors. And when you visit all family pharmacy dot com, you can use code Dana, get 10 percent off your whole order. So I was taking my Ivermectin that I got from them. Uh, they've also helped me out like over Thanksgiving when I couldn't get into my doctor and I know I'm getting strut throat. I know it's a thing. Uh, and I was able to get the antibiotic antibiotics I need cause I've been to this gut rodeo before and their doctor was able to sign off. They sent it like in a day and a half and that's not even expedited. That's just like how fast they sent it. You can skip the hassle. And here's what I really like about the medicines that they offer in all family pharmacy. It's not made in China. They're not made in China. These are all elements from the U.S. of A. So that's huge, I think, when you're looking at medicines and antibiotics and things like that. You can get comprehensive treatment options in addition to the ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine. You got antibiotics and over 200 other essential medicines. Visit allfamilypharmacy.com slash Dana for 10% off using promo code Dana. That's allfamilypharmacy.com slash Dana. Coupon code Dana10 gets you 10% off today.
SPEAKER 13 :
Brighten up your timely news consumption with a Dana Show podcast where every update comes with a little dash of not so serious on YouTube, Apple, or wherever you get your podcasts.
SPEAKER 05 :
This is the Dana Show. My name is Craig Collins filling in. Thrilled to be with you. They will be called conspiracy theorists for the next several months. But people will ask what I think are certainly reasonable questions about the horrible accident that happened yesterday. One of the most significant ones being why the U.S. Army Black Hawk helicopter was flying at an altitude much higher than it's supposed to fly at. 350 feet in the air as opposed to 200 being the restricted altitude. height limit? That's a question people will ask. People have dove into the flight patterns of both the plane and the helicopter and wondered why the collision occurred and it wasn't avoided. People are asking questions about the air traffic control communication and also the staffing. And those are not just people on a certain side of the political aisle, not just people who are quote unquote conspiracy theorists. This would include the ABCs of the world. Probably not coming to the same conclusion that some others might come to when asking said questions. But they there seems to be a growing list of why did this happen? What's the reason for this coming out in just the day after the two days after a horrific accident? The black box has also been recovered. I might as well mention that. But here's part of what ABC said about this story.
SPEAKER 29 :
Tonight, as investigators search the wreckage of that mid-air disaster in the icy Potomac River, an early focus is the flight path of that Army Black Hawk helicopter. That chopper appeared to be flying at about 350 feet, according to early flight data, when it should have been flying under 200 feet. Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth tonight.
SPEAKER 11 :
The military does dangerous things. It does routine things on the regular basis. Tragically, last night, a mistake was made. There was some sort of an elevation issue that we have immediately begun investigating.
SPEAKER 29 :
D.C. airspace among the busiest in the country. And tonight, a source with direct knowledge confirming reports that the air traffic controller on duty was performing the job normally done by two controllers.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, that's bad. By the way, should the air traffic controller have just informed the helicopter that it was too high if it's flying via, you know, just the way it's seeing things and told it to lower its altitude? What should have occurred there? There's a lot of questions, not a lot of answers. And questions matter. I said it the other day. I'll say it again today. It is valuable to ask them. People cannot shout you into silence by saying, how dare you ask that? Or you sound like a crazy tinfoil hat person for saying that out loud. You can't make up, you know, facts. You can't claim things are true that you can't prove to be true. That's a bad decision. But you can ask whatever question you'd like. That makes sense to me. All right. Let's move on to Kash Patel. He crushed it. the other day in his hearing with Democrats and conservatives, but Democrats trying to go crazy after him. One of the better Mike Trach moments was probably this moment. This is Kash Patel versus a Democratic senator, a Democratic senator, White House. This is good stuff.
SPEAKER 17 :
In the collective, all of those statements are taken out of grotesque context. And anyone that thinks my 16 years of service is an exemplary on how I would proceed if confirmed as FBI is intentionally putting false information into the public ether and creating more public discourse. The only thing that will matter if I'm confirmed as a director of the FBI is a de-weaponized, de-politicized system of law enforcement completely devoted to rigorous obedience of the Constitution and a singular standard of justice.
SPEAKER 05 :
That is amazing as an answer to me. It actually immediately reminded me of something, though, that has nothing really to do with politics. But hopefully people remember it from Billy Madison, because some of the moments where Cash Patel was speaking and looking at people that just asked ridiculously stupid questions to him in ridiculously dumb ways sounded a whole lot like this.
SPEAKER 16 :
Mr. Madison, what you just said. is one of the most insanely idiotic things I've ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it.
SPEAKER 05 :
I love every part of that. He should just say that if Kash Patel is put back up there again. You know, we're all dumber for now hearing what you said. Here's another moment where, again, people are just doing a great job of demonstrating why Democrats are terrified of Kash Patel and Tulsi Gabbard. uh great to watch them uh kind of appear back to back because they're two of the most experienced most deserving cabinet appointments still outsiders still looking to upend systems uh that trump put forward and people that uh politicians are just freaking out about is how dare they get these people in position to power and it has led me to one thing why are the democrats so afraid of you i don't know senator you'd have to ask them
SPEAKER 20 :
I'll tell you what I think. Listening to their questions and your responses, which we appreciate. They know that you're going to go in and you're going to clean up that political cabal that has been over there for years. You are going to reposition the FBI to its core mission. You stated that earlier in this hearing and there will be no more political persecutions and no more two tiers of justice. And they have liked having two tiers of justice. They have enjoyed it.
SPEAKER 05 :
Of course they have.
SPEAKER 20 :
And it has helped them.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay. That is amazing. That's Marsha Blackburn saying her own opinions, why Democrats are going crazy. Say it to me slower, Marsha. It's so great. But no, I love every part of this. And again, as I said a second ago, I love the fact that as you're discussing what could happen, what could change, the first thing you will do is out how broken this stuff has been. And to be honest, to go back to the plane crash yesterday, The American Airlines flight and the Blackhawk helicopter and the questions surrounding it and how many of those questions land within the air traffic controller who was doing the job of two people. You wonder what was and wasn't supposed to be communicated, et cetera, et cetera. And this goes back to what Trump said the other day, too, about diversity, equity and inclusion being a potential cause of this problem. And most of mainstream media just outright rejected that. No one did any research. No one looked into any potential aspects of how that could be something you could point to as true, historically or in general. They just said, Trump with no evidence put this out there and claimed this to be true. Here's the problem. When you actually do the job that a whole lot of people in media are supposed to do, that job being actually looking into certain things and seeing what is and is not factual about said topics, you see in 2010, The Obama administration restricting the amount of programs, the amount of schools that could essentially train air traffic controllers or be used to select air traffic controllers from because they thought they were too white. That's real. You have Michael Pearson, one of several people saying that on TV yesterday on Fox News. He's a former air traffic controller. You also have celebrations going on. Within a, you know, a year or so of this horrible accident from people like Jasmine Crockett saying that they think that, you know, it's great. The decision making that's changed in the world of government to help people get into positions within a certain, you know, agencies, the FAA among them simply because of the color of their skin. which is insanely broken, or anything other than their ability to say, do a job correctly. And this is one of those moments where Jasmine Crockett is proud that something, quote, flew under the radar, which is scary to hear her say, too, that's becoming popular again in light of the horrible thing that happened yesterday. But here's Jasmine Crockett back in 2024 being proud of legislation that's restricting access to certain professions or encouraging access to certain professions, funding your education for certain professions so that you can land in places regardless of if you're the best person for the job, which is, well, bad.
SPEAKER 02 :
I think that I've been somewhat effective. We also were able to get monumental legislation into the FAA Reauthorization Act that really flew under the radar, thank God. But this was funding to make sure that hopefully we can increase the number of African Americans and Hispanics that are entering aviation, which can be very expensive, but can obviously be very lucrative. And so we set up a situation where basically there will be full rides for those attending land grant HBCUs as well as HSIs to go into aviation.
SPEAKER 05 :
Why wouldn't you just give people an opportunity to, you know, get a job that they deserve and not try to force people into a position that look differently than people who have the job already? I don't understand that. I don't understand what the claim is there. And then also the fact that she says it flew under the radar. Thank God. It's no longer under the radar, at least in certain circles. It's probably going to be talked about more now after something horrible happened the other day. But again, this is all information that's just out there that media could dive into, could look to discuss when trying to figure out what Trump means when he says something, as opposed to just attacking the messenger for the message because you don't like the person who said something out loud. It doesn't mean that the messenger is always telling the truth. I'll continue to say that until I'm blue in the face. But it doesn't mean just because you don't like them or you don't like what they said that they're lying. You got to look for the veracity of the statement first before you attack the individual. And media was so arrogant yesterday in attacking Trump for saying what he said that it seems like very few people decided to do any of the homework to look into what could or could not be true. And here I'll explain it differently for anyone that still doesn't understand exactly what I'm saying or wants to accuse me of saying something horribly different than what I'm saying. I don't care what you look like. I don't care who you are. I don't care if you're a man, a woman, black, white. It doesn't matter to me. If you're good at a job like being an air traffic controller, if you have the capability to do it, you go do it. I will support you for doing it. That's great. I don't need to highlight the things about you that didn't get you the job or shouldn't get you the job. I can just highlight the stuff about you that made you deserving. of the position that you got, the fact that you're good at this and you're going to keep us safe, keep people safe in the air. Because anyone who hears a discussion about this now will add things that are not being said by people like me about how racist you are and how you're demanding it be white people that are in that position that couldn't be further from the truth. And it honestly just distracts us from the conversation in general or the conversation entirely. And it's really quite a dumb statement to be put out there in the world. But that's the kind of thing we're fighting now. We're fighting this version of if you don't stand for something that simply doesn't make sense because it doesn't make sense. Well, you have to be hateful. You have to be a racist. You have to be something else. And Trump has to be a hateful person who said a hateful thing and not someone who could be talking about the lack of people who are in this profession right now. the staffing issues that the FAA is seeing for air traffic controllers, because specifically in the world of air traffic controllers, they have limited the amount of people who can pursue that profession at certain schools because they didn't like the makeup of the school from a demographic standpoint, which is bad. That could all prove to be the truth in how we get to a point where you only have one person working the job of two people, et cetera, et cetera. But darn it, who cares about the facts, as I said a second ago? All right, quick break. A lot more. Craig Collins filling in on the Dana Show.
SPEAKER 18 :
Our partners that help bring you the program, Kel-Tec. They got a new 5.7 they're coming out with. I know. And I think George Kellgren, have you ever talked to him? So he's the guy who runs Kel-Tec and he owns and operates it. He innovates everything. Independent of me, one of my kids said he's literally a mad scientist. He just sits there and comes up with... Things that you didn't think that you needed until they made it. And then you're like, yeah, I need this. I'll talk more about what they have next week because I'm broadcasting from their booth at SHOT Show. But they're coming out. They got a new 5-7 they're coming out with. And they're unveiling it at SHOT Show. But this is a Florida-based company. A great all-American story. Whatever you need for firearms, they've... They invented the concealed compact category. They make some really awesome stuff. And it's at KelTechWeapons.com. And when you go to their website, see everything that they have. The P-15, the P-11, the P-32, the fold-in half, sub-2Ks, all awesome. But they have a surprise for everybody next week. Visit KelTechWeapons.com. Sign up for their newsletter. Find them on social media. Innovation Performance KelTech. K-E-L-T-E-C. That's KelTechWeapons.com.
SPEAKER 32 :
In this life, are we rewarded for right worship and moral actions? Pastor Alan Jackson says yes.
SPEAKER 24 :
One of the mentors in my life said something to me when I was young, that God will be no man's debtor. I'm sure I didn't understand it at the time, but I have come to understand that whatever we give to the Lord, he gives back to us in the most remarkable way.
SPEAKER 12 :
Absolutely.
SPEAKER 24 :
Whether it's time or excellence or attention or resources.
SPEAKER 03 :
Subscribe to Culture and Christianity, an Alan Jackson podcast, on your favorite podcast app. It's his life mission to make bad decisions.
SPEAKER 07 :
It's time for Florida Man.
SPEAKER 05 :
That's right. It's time for Florida Man. My name is Craig Collins filling in. Thrilled to be with you on the Dana Show. Three very epic Florida Man stories. The first one involves a guy who's now being charged with a felony. This is, I guess, his third battery charge. So it gets upgraded to felony. The problem with this one is it involves a bologna sandwich. So a guy who was playing video games, his name is Quatevos Chandler. He's 29 years old. I don't even know if I got his first name correct, actually, to be honest with you. He's playing his PlayStation 5. His friend took it away from him, said he was playing it too much, and he threw a bologna sandwich at somebody. Within the police report, it says the alleged bologna sandwich that was allegedly thrown, I like that wording, hit someone in the center of the chest. There was no visible injury because, again, it's a baloney sandwich. This is all on a video, which is bad for Chandler, and then also the fact that it's the third time he's done this. The other two incidents also involved video games. Apparently, this dude should not be put anywhere near video games. They cause a problem in his life and also make him very willing to chuck said baloney sandwich. I don't think you can actually charge somebody with a felony for a bologna sandwich. It sounds like the kind of thing they do to Donald Trump, to President Trump, but I digress. It is what it is. I don't know if the other charges are much more extreme in his previous cases. Maybe it's a good thing that he's going to get this one up to felony charge, even though, again, the worst thing done was the throwing of a bologna sandwich. All right, another story that I thought was great. Dylan DeVereaux, who is 36 years old, was arrested by Florida Highway Patrol. He escaped during the process. Several aspects of his escape are sort of amazing. Dylan was wearing a Dalmatian dog onesie for some reason after being pulled over by cops in Florida. He was also in the process of being handcuffed and, get this, had been tased twice before. once well first apprehending him and him fighting back then again just before he gets away he gets tased doesn't stop the guy he's still capable of making it away and running so a dude with one handcuff on one of his wrists in a dalmatian onesie after being tased twice ran erratically away from cops and then eventually was apprehended i wonder what's going through your mind In the moment where you fight your way to separate yourself from cops for a few seconds, you're wearing a Dalmatian onesie. I imagine you're not in your right frame of mind. I should actually say that part too. But you got a set of handcuffs dangling off of one wrist and you're trying to make a run for it. I wonder what's going through your brain as to the odds you're going to succeed. I wonder if the guy's like, oh, I'm getting free. I'm getting away from this whole situation. I'll be just fine. But tased twice and still somehow fine or still somehow capable of continuing to go, that's sort of remarkable in and of itself. All right, those are two. One last Florida man story or Florida woman story in this case. A couple was having a picnic when an alligator decided to interrupt said picnic and Things that I love about this story, the dude vanished in the video, so the woman was left to fight off the alligator, although there wasn't much fighting. The woman simply just yelled at the alligator, and eventually it turned around and left them alone for the picnic. But the woman kept yelling, Gator Boy! along with words that I can't play on the radio, so I won't be able to play the audio, at the alligator to make it go away. The internet loved calling the gator, Gator Boy. I love calling the dude who disappeared from the video, everything other than Gator Boy, and probably a bunch of words I also can't say on the radio. Not exactly a good look for Florida man, a good look for the Florida lady, even though you probably should not have tried to stand your ground against an alligator, but it worked out, and you showed that Gator Boy a lesson. But those are three Florida man, Florida woman stories that I really love that are out there today. Some of those are top tier for that whole situation. And I guess I'll just warn you, if you're around Quatevos or whatever this guy's name is, and he's playing a video game, you might be hit with some sort of lunch meat. And that seems ridiculously bad. I can't get over that, that that might be a felony charge. Come on, people. There's got to be a way. I'm not saying that he's not guilty of other things, but there's got to be a way to not go that crazy about bologna, although it's not a good meat. Quick break. A lot more. Craig Collins filling in on The Dana Show.
SPEAKER 18 :
Achieving vibrant, youthful skin doesn't have to be complicated. With the power of Native Path Collagen, you can nourish your body from within and enhance not just your skin, but also your hair, your nails. By incorporating Native Path Collagen into your daily routine, you can promote a plump, radiant complexion, reduce signs of aging, and boost your overall vitality. all without any unnecessary fillers or additives. Native Path Collagen has only type 1 and 3 collagen, the most important types, making up 90% of your body's collagen. No artificial sweeteners, just pure third-party tested goodness. It's completely flavorless, so you can just add it to about anything, your coffee, your smoothies, oatmeal, or whatever you want. And the best part is that Native Path's peptides formula makes it more bioavailable, so it means your body will absorb it easily. Start your journey to healthier skin today. Get nativepath.com slash Dana and stock up on Native Path Collagen and save up to an incredible 45% off plus free shipping. Every order includes a 365-day money-back guarantee. Don't miss out. Head to getnativepath.com slash Dana.
SPEAKER 05 :
This is The Dana Show. My name is Craig Collins filling in. Thrilled to be with you. Dean Lash, Dana Lash Radio. Two great ways to stay connected to her on X on Twitter. Definitely a lot of things there you should be checking out as well as just everywhere else. The podcast, everything she's got going on. Pete boot edge edge is very upset that Donald Trump called him out and said what a disaster he was while in charge of the transportation department as the secretary of transportation. Apparently furious with a line of bull was boot edge edge. His reaction to it. I love every part of this and how dumb some of these people wind up being because Pete boot edge edge had no idea. had to be in charge of the transportation world. And yet he was put in charge of it, like many other individuals put forward by Biden. And media was totally fine with that. And then if they think that Trump puts people forward who don't deserve their positions, well, darn it, that's bad. You got to fight that. And actually, Hakeem Jeffries saying the quiet part out loud recently when he was claiming that no matter what Trump does, Democrats are going to fight it. They're going to fight it every single way they can, including like in a mafia sense. That was the weirdest ad at the tail end of this. Here we go. All right, hold on. You can't hear that yet. Let me go ahead and make this actually a play on the radio. And then let's do that again. Here we go.
SPEAKER 25 :
We are going to fight it legislatively. We are going to fight it in the courts. We're going to fight it in the streets.
SPEAKER 05 :
That's bad, of course, fighting it in the streets. But I kind of wonder what that means. I want to keep putting forward my idea that at some point the people who are most in disagreement in the world of government have to do a gladiator joust thing. much like in American Gladiators, where you jousted those guys. I would love to see Hakeem Jeffries go up against someone in the world of the jousting world and see who wins that, just because I'd be amused. You want to fight in the streets. You want to throw down the gloves and go. That seems like the right way to try, not whatever the other thing is you're saying, which is probably horrible and also encouraging a lot of bad behavior, which is, again, something that Democrats only pay attention to when they think Republicans are doing it, not when they themselves are acting in a way they shouldn't be acting in. Senior FBI leaders promoted by former director Christopher Wray have been demoted or reassigned. This is according to a CNN story that's out there. I will tell you, As you watch this system actually start to be upended or at least threatened, I don't know if they'll be able to go all the way to upending and changing everything because the system, like a snake, is going to fight back hard whatever way it can. But you're going to see a tremendous amount of these stories come out. We're like, well, these people got in trouble or this person got removed from position of power. Out of Chicago, you have a story about Mayor Brandon Johnson and his quote-unquote gift room that apparently was not a secret but was a secret. It's definitely illegal, it sounds like. It's an accusation. Can't say for sure if it's what's going on there. Allegedly, though, he had a room full of stuff that he would just get given as gifts, which included shoes, handbags. I don't know why Mayor Johnson wanted those. And also a whiskey, which makes sense. That would be something I would be very much for if I got a bribe. No gold bars, which disappointed me a bit since it wasn't the same road as Bob Menendez. But again, as this system winds up getting fought with, as things wind up potentially changing, You're going to see all the different versions of how dare they do this. It's dangerous that they're doing this, et cetera, et cetera. And at the end of all of it, hopefully what we actually see is profound change because that profound change will, well, darn it, be good for our society and not as horrible as people want to say it is. But we'll see because a lot of things will be happening. Another big story out there, and the brand new press secretary talked about this today, is potential tariffs. tariffs on Mexico, on Canada, on China. Some of those announcements getting a whole lot of attention in media. Some of the other ones not getting so much attention in media. Here's a little bit of that audio from earlier today.
SPEAKER 19 :
I can confirm that tomorrow, the February 1st deadline that President Trump put into place at a statement several weeks ago continues. The president will be implementing tomorrow a 25% tariffs on Mexico and 25% tariffs on Canada and a 10% tariff on China for the illegal fentanyl that they have sourced and allowed to distribute into our country, which has killed tens of millions of Americans.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yes, this is actually going to happen. And it's a punishment. for some of the bad things that we're seeing that we'd like to see happen differently. And if it works, it would be amazing. Even more so than that, the ability to gain money through tariffs, well, crapped all over by a lot of mainstream media, may eventually allow us to, say, tax the American people less money, which might be a good thing. And you might say, well, we're just changing the way you're taxed because people will raise prices if they have to pay tariffs. Well, eventually, if people don't buy certain stuff, lower prices. You can't sell nothing or you can't sell something to someone who's not buying it. So we'll see if that part actually plays out too, as far as all of this is concerned, because I love that. Whenever people tell you, well, we're just going to raise the price of everything. Well, not the stuff that's created here. That's not actually going to be, you know, hit by tariffs. That's the whole point of it too. More production within the United States means less costly items for the American people who are not buying the stuff that's being created here. elsewhere. But Caroline Leavitt is doing a great job as the White House press secretary quickly, I believe. Here's another clip from this press conference earlier today.
SPEAKER 19 :
The President has made it very clear that this is a common sense solution to solving some of the problems that we have seen at the Federal Aviation Administration and also when it comes to many of the federal agencies across our government. People should not be hired based on their disabilities, based on their skin color, their gender, their race. None of that matters. What matters to this President and this administration is how well you can do your job and the American people agree with that sentiment. So it's about competence, skill, and merit. And so the president is focused on ensuring that the most competent individuals, the best and the brightest in this country, are in positions in this federal government, especially when it comes to public safety. Can't overemphasize the importance.
SPEAKER 05 :
You know what's funny is you hear some of these things and probably a lot of us are thinking in the back of our minds, How is this controversial? How is this a bad thing? In all honesty, the people that I've known in life who feel like they got ahead based on anything other than their merit don't like that. They don't want that to be true. The individuals themselves are usually prouder or very willing to discuss the merit-based reasons that they've succeeded in their lives and nothing else. That is what the American people want. They want a meritocracy, which a lot of us believe does exist. in a lot of places or should exist in all the places where they're trying to prevent it. And anything less than that is bad for us. And again, this isn't remotely controversial, but somehow in the society we live, it's twisted into being that because what people complete as far as the sentence or the thought is, is they claim that you said out loud when you just want a meritocracy to exist, that you don't want people to succeed based on their race, their skin color, their sex, whatever it is. That's not remotely true. That couldn't be further from the truth. I don't care what you look like. I care that my plan lanes safely. I care that certain things happen in the world that protect us from any sort of danger. And that's simply all I care about, as do most Americans. So I love when these arguments get made because the only reason to make the only way to make them make sense to the American people is to add a bad behavior. Because if you don't add a bad behavior, there's nothing wrong with this existing simply the way that it should exist. All right. Other things out there. I thought a piece of audio from Rand Paul was pretty interesting. This is all over the place. I think the Daily Caller, one of the places that put it up. He went after fellow senators over their belief in submission to government over vaccines during RFK's hearing. Rand Paul is is not going to move on from this stuff. And I don't think he should, because these are the types of questions that I would like to see. I would like a lot more information. personally, about everything that happened during COVID than the inside look that we've tried to get so far. I believe that there's a whole lot of missing variables that certain individuals, when put in positions of power, will actually try to give us that information. And I can play a little bit of what Rand Paul said, but I just think it's fascinating. that it's taken this long and it's taken a shift in power for us to get to a point where people believe more of this information could actually come out. And when you're trying to criticize any of the people that Trump has put forward for positions within his cabinet for being too loyal to him It is the most hypocritical thing you've ever heard from a traditionally very hypocritical part of our government to say that that is somehow, you know, something they can judge because of how many of them did it. All right, here we go.
SPEAKER 14 :
So oversimplified and dumbed down that we never really get to real truths. And it's why people up here are so separated from real people at home. Hey, Ben. We talk about hepatitis B. It's a terrible disease. It could lead to liver failure, as the chairman said. But the reason you have distrust from people at home, why they don't believe anything you say, they don't believe government at all, is you're telling my kid to take a hepatitis B vaccine when he's one day old. You get it through drug use and sexually transmitted. That's how you get hepatitis B. But you're telling me my kid has to take it at one day old. You're not. That's not science. And so every person with a bit of common sense, even people who don't resist vaccines. I vaccinated all my kids. I believe vaccines are one of the modern miracles beyond all pale. The Speckled Monster is a great book about the introduction of the smallpox vaccine in 1720 into our country. All miracles. but i'm not a one-size-fits-all it's not all or nothing i chose to wait on my hepatitis b vaccine and we did it when they went to school does that make me an awful person does that make me an anti-vaxxer because i questioned the government dictate of whether i do it and i'm not speaking for anybody else i'm only speaking for myself but for goodness sakes let's have an honest debate about these things yes
SPEAKER 05 :
let's do that. Let's have an honest debate about so many things. He goes on to say that submitting to the government, do what you're told, uh, no discussion, you know, essentially stuff is something that so many people on that committee or on that, um, you know, a floor, uh, do all the time or tell the American people to do all the time. And yet they're attacking Robert F. Kennedy jr. And others for how they might listen to Trump. If Trump tells them he'd like to see something done, uh, And essentially, I think the only edict given from Trump to the people he's put in these positions is to upend the brokenness of the system. I don't think it goes any deeper than that. I truly think that the way that you communicate to Robert F. Kennedy Jr., to Tulsi Gabbard, to Kash Patel, What you want to see them do in our intelligence community, in our medical community, is to upend the brokenness, the bureaucratic system that is pretty much operating no matter who's in charge and ignoring any sort of, you know, you need to change this, you need to do this different. Go ahead and force them to acknowledge the weakness and maybe cut a bunch of the excess spending that is costing the American people a lot of money. Good stuff. Really not bad stuff. Asking questions, always good. Seems to be a byline in this as well. All right, quick break. A lot more. Craig Collins filling in on The Dana Show.
SPEAKER 18 :
With everything going on in the world right now, the economy, conflicts, the open border, spiraling national debt, the devastating inflation, it's critical that you have a plan for diversifying and protecting your savings. And that's why so many, including myself, have turned to precious metals like gold and silver. to help protect our savings. And I've partnered with the top-rated precious metals company, Goldco, to make that happen. It's a great company with a great reputation, and they could not have made the process any easier. And right now, Gold Co. is offering a free gold and silver kit that will show you how precious metals can help protect and diversify your savings. And for my audience, they're offering up to a 10% instant match in bonus silver on qualified orders. All you have to do is visit danalikesgold.com to get started today. Goldco has helped thousands of Americans place over $3 billion in gold and silver, and they can help you as well. Join thousands who trust Goldco. Visit danalikesgold.com.
SPEAKER 05 :
This is the Dana Show. My name is Craig Collins filling in. Let's go with a quick five.
SPEAKER 07 :
And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
SPEAKER 05 :
That's right. Very quickly, the top who, what, when, where and why questions that were asked to Google in January. A list was created on the Internet. Google Trends shows us who owns the Gulf of Mexico or the Gulf of America, as it's supposed to be called now. I was the most the top trending who Google search. And the answer is nobody. The U.S., Mexico and Cuba all have territorial waters there. And nobody owns that thing. What time is the inauguration? Was the what? When will TikTok be back in the Apple store? Was the top when question asked? I don't know why I find that one so amusing. Where to watch Notre Dame and Ohio State? The national championship game got a lot of views. Unfortunately, Notre Dame did not win that game. I was cheering them on. Why is TikTok back? Was also asked. Two of the top five. who, what, when, where, and why questions, TikTok related. Also in the world of sports, if I go ahead and throw this out there, a Buckeyes fan is going to award 16 scholarships based on the national championship win. They're only 500 bucks a pop, but hey, free money's free money. The guy's name is John Peters. He went viral for talking about his fandom and also because his nickname is Big Nut. That's real. Can't make that up. Here we go.
SPEAKER 12 :
If you show me... that we better be winning because if we're not winning, don't show me because I won't be happy. As Buckeyes, we wear our emotions on our sleeve, you know what I'm saying? For me, knowing that I'm not a Buckeye graduate, it's a form of healing for me because it helps me deal with the fact that I've never had that feeling of the ultimate of walking across stage and receiving that diploma from Ohio State because I'm not the sharpest knife in the drawer. As some people say, you know, I'm a blue-collar guy working in a factory.
SPEAKER 05 :
I kind of love the fact that he says it's healing, even though I don't exactly love the verbiage because he wishes he could have graduated from Ohio State, but he's not the sharpest knife in the drawer. But Big Nut giving out 16 scholarships and proud of it. That went viral online. 7-Eleven is going to be rewarding people who made it through January, which is all of us with a free Slurpee. You can get a free Slurpee in the early parts of February. This is specifically because of dry January, a month that a whole lot of people celebrate by giving up alcohol. So if you did that or if you didn't, I think you get a free Slurpee no matter what if you walk in on free Slurpee day. Also, Apple iPhone sales are shrinking. Apparently, people are a little bit disturbed by the amount of artificial intelligence added to these phones and if it's actually going to benefit us. So at the best, we're waiting to see what good comes from more AI in our phones. At worst, we're scared that it's only going to make things bad. But that's another story out there. Quick break. A lot more. Craig Collins filling in on The Dana Show.
SPEAKER 18 :
I've seen the amazing changes Relief Factor has made for so many people and I've seen it firsthand through my husband Chris's pain relief from using Relief Factor right now it's easy to give their product a try because Relief Factor makes it pain-free with their three-week quick start for just $19.95 get rid of pain and start living better Relief Factor is a 100% drug-free daily supplement that helps your body fight pain naturally developed by doctors it works by supporting your body's response to inflammation it doesn't just mask pain for a short time it That's 1-800-4-RELIEF. With their pain-free trial, you can get a three-week quick start for only $19.95. Call 1-800-4-RELIEF or visit relieffactor.com.
SPEAKER 13 :
Subscribe to The Dana Show podcast because who says you can't make fun of people while staying informed on your own personal time? Subscribe on YouTube, Apple, or wherever you get your podcasts.
SPEAKER 05 :
This is The Dana Show. My name is Craig Collins filling in. Thrilled to be with you. Dana should be back on Monday. A White House press release has asked for an apology from minority leader Hakeem Jeffries for calling to fight Trump in the streets. The minority leader said that he wanted to fight people a whole bunch of different ways. I was playing that audio just a little bit ago. We can play it again for context here quickly. But essentially ended it with a weird, you know, almost mafioso type of ad that we'll fight it in the courtrooms. We'll fight it legislatively, anything and everything Trump wants to do. And if that doesn't work or even if it does, we're also fighting in the streets, baby.
SPEAKER 25 :
We are going to fight it. Legislatively, we are going to fight it in the courts. We're going to fight it in the streets.
SPEAKER 05 :
I don't know what that means. I'm confused what that means. But I love that the White House has said you should apologize for that. You should take that back. And I don't know how it's lost on people. I don't believe it is, actually. I don't think you can forget this part. Trump was almost killed in assassination attempt that miraculously failed to take the life of our current president occurred. And any time that Republicans say something that Democrats can warp into a call for violence, it's all over media. It's discussed everywhere. It's acted as though the power that certain politicians wield over the American people is so significant that you're just going to immediately start fighting people. But then when Democrats do the same thing, they act as though all of those things that they would claim are completely lies and completely untrue or that, you know, Hakeem Jeffries isn't calling for actual violence. Which I don't know, makes no sense because he did say in the streets. I don't know what other version of fighting he could possibly mean there. But nonetheless, I also can't get over the fact that to me, what matters most about this is the idea that it's just someone else's idea, an idea that you hate. So because of that, you have to fight it. You have to push back against it. There is also an interesting moment when you talk about the Democratic Party not learning anything, which is essentially what that is right there. They were resoundingly defeated in the presidential election. And actually, you know what? Before I even play this audio. There's something really interesting that I think occurs, and a lot of people seem to say this, when they claim that Trump had one of the most incredible political comebacks in the history of our country. I've never thought that. I don't think that now. I wouldn't say that to you. The reason why is in 2020, regardless of whether or not you think that it was a fair or an unfair election, Trump got an insane amount of votes. He got an incredibly high amount of votes. He won in 2016. He got the most votes of a sitting president ever in the history of our country in 2020. And then he won in 2024. I don't consider that to be a political comeback. I consider that to be a politician who was insanely popular, continuing to be popular, and a politician who was in power in between his times in office and Biden, who was insanely unpopular, who did terrible things and policies mattered. Those decisions is what caused people to go ahead and choose to put Trump back into office. Now, the DNC doesn't seem to get that. Again, they had a bunch of people sitting for a panel discussion, all potential people who could be the next DNC chair, and they were asked a very simple question and gave a very dumb answer. They all raised their hands in the air. I'll play this first, but this is profoundly misunderstanding what actually occurred.
SPEAKER 04 :
In this round, so I'm going to have a show of hands.
SPEAKER 26 :
How many of you believe that racism and misogyny played a role in Vice President Harris's defeat?
SPEAKER 05 :
Everyone's hands are in the air, even people in the audience.
SPEAKER 04 :
That's good. You all pass. OK, I have to stop at first.
SPEAKER 05 :
You know what's amazing about a claim like that? They had a white guy as their candidate who was in office and they shoved him into a closet. If Democrats believed that Kamala Harris would not win an election because of racism and misogyny and not that her ideas or her closeness being the vice president of an administration that was popular. is the reason that she would not succeed in trying to be the next president of the country. If they believe that, why did they force Joe Biden into the closet when he didn't want to? He wanted to run. He wanted to be their candidate. They had that option. They chose not to get it. And then they blame society for not choosing their candidate that they hoped would win because of her race and her sex. They hope that that would be the reason to put her into a position of power. It is insane. Because immediately after you switch from Biden to Harris, you start talking about her being a black woman or her being an Indian woman or her just being a woman in general, as opposed to what her ideas are. The DEI conversation. whether it's about the FAA and air traffic controllers or anything else, is so profoundly flawed. I actually was thinking about this just the other day, and it's a weird person to think about in response to this discussion. But Dave Chappelle, and he probably would be surprised that I'm mentioning him in this moment. Not that I know the guy. But Dave Chappelle was on SNL recently. He talked about, again, it's going to be a long walk, but I promise hopefully it'll be worth it. He talked about the California wildfires. He talked about all kinds of stuff. And he made a joke. One of the jokes he made, well, he made a lot of jokes, was that poor people can't see beyond their own pain. He was complaining about the amount of people who are not all that sympathetic to the people in California who lost their homes because of the perception that those people are incredibly wealthy. So he said that people who are not well off can't see past their own pain. I believe this to be absolutely true. in the discussion about DEI, that individuals who would perceive Kamala Harris to have lost an election or whatever else it is that exists out there in the world to be a thing about race or about sex and not about qualifications for a job, you can't see beyond your own pain. You believe this to be the reason that you yourself are not succeeding in life or that something isn't going your way or something shouldn't be going your way. Essentially, you've turned yourself into a victim in a sort of ridiculous fashion. Regardless of the truth of that statement or the meritocracy that we exist and live in right now and the people who would tell you that, successful people, regardless of what they look like, that say that they got where they got to based on merit and their ability to do it. I don't know many people Truthfully, in my entire life, I have not met many individuals who are highly successful, who would look you in the eyes and say, I'm successful because of my race. I'm successful because of my sex. I'm successful because people handed me stuff I didn't deserve. I don't think I know anyone who actually would say that and believe that. because they all believe that they got where they rose to based on something else. And they want to have gotten there based on something else, the desire we all have as human beings. So it's amazing when these moments happen because you can't see beyond your own pain. You can't perceive this discussion differently. And you can't say to yourself that Kamala Harris lost an election because she was deeply unpopular in 2020 when she tried to run for president and was not given the nomination. She was deeply unpopular along with Biden while running the country over those four years that they were in office. And she failed to answer basic questions during interviews, something that went viral all the time on TikTok and other social media platforms where they would ask her what her solution to a problem is. And within seconds, she would say Donald Trump's name. She would be like, well, Trump is bad. And that's what matters more than anything else. And it's surreal that we have to even have this discussion or have this conversation and convince people otherwise. And again, until the Democratic Party actually learns their lesson on this stuff, they will continue to lose elections, which won't necessarily be bad to anyone not voting for their side of the aisle. But truthfully, if you want to actually be more competitive, come up with a different reason for why you think that you failed to succeed based on what is actually true, darn it. Elon Musk, just in other news, is tweeting out White House press secretary stuff. Caroline Leavitt is doing a great job in this position. Here's a little bit of what Elon put up today. One of the clips, I think Charlie Kirk put this up too, and Elon was just sort of retweeting it or re-exing it. I'm not sure if I'm supposed to use that phrase, but here we go.
SPEAKER 19 :
If you are an American who has spent many years studying aviation and you graduate from school and you're an air traffic controller based on skill and merit, and then you apply for a job and you're forced to fill out a biographical questionnaire asking you the color of your skin and asking you where you're from in details that aren't relevant at all to the job description, I think that deteriorates the morale of people in this industry. And if you talk to people in this industry, they'll tell you that. In fact, many of them filed a lawsuit against the FAA a couple of years ago under Joe Biden's administration because they were denied positions because of this DEI hiring practice that was putting identity politics over merit and skills.
SPEAKER 05 :
You know what's interesting about this, too? When you have a shortage of staff and you can point to the reason for the shortage of staff being a refusal to hire deserving people of jobs, you look bad. But it also reminds me of something that happened to me years ago in a radio meeting with a lot of staff on what would be called the programming side of the aisle. And I've mentioned this several times over the last few years because it struck me as so odd. But it was in a place I don't want to say exactly where, but it was in a place where the audience was perceived to be overwhelmingly liberal and not necessarily a large amount of conservatives listening. And so the statement in the room was the next person who applies for a specific job isn't going to get it if they're a white guy. And I was standing in the room looking at myself and some other people who had the position and happened to be white people, even though there were other people in the room that were not white guys. And I thought, that's such a weird thing to say out loud. Are you saying I don't deserve my job because of what I look like? Or if I applied now for this job that I've been doing for years and you think I've been doing it successfully, that I wouldn't get it because of what I look like. Because it's a horrible thing to say. You know what's weird about that, too? And I don't know how to say this more appropriately. Not that I have any desire to do that specifically. But there's this narrative. I'll explain this very quickly. Certain movies and things that dive into, say, racism or slavery, even anything like that. There's a unique character that gets criticized in certain parts of media or certain parts of social media. They call it the white savior. It's the individual who pushes back against the bad thing that everybody else in the movie is doing by agreeing with the people that are being treated unfairly, and it happens to be a white guy. I'll give you an example. In the story of Jackie Robinson, and there's a few movies about Jackie Robinson, Pee Wee Reese is used as an example of someone who's a quote-unquote white hero. It doesn't matter that that actually happened. that the moment that's depicted in these movies actually occurred. But it said disparagingly, it said, why do these movies need to have this individual who acts a certain way, you know, and whatnot. And what I find so profoundly interesting about that is regardless of your behavior, If you're the good guy in the movie or the bad guy in the movie, what matters more to some people is what you look like. It doesn't matter what your beliefs are, what you think is appropriate, what should be true in our society or how we should behave. It only matters if you're part of a certain subset, a certain group based on skin color, based on ethnicity, based on sex, based on whatever. And that's horrible. And to say this definitively and to actually say it a way similar to how, and I know you always get in trouble as a white dude when you quote him, but Martin Luther King said when he was criticizing people who would riot in the streets is that the best way to get change in society is to make people feel as though the club is open to them. The club that you want to join is something that you would have open arms and willingly accept you into. And when you restrict people, when you push people out of whatever the issue is that you're trying to change in our society, you wind up not affecting change in the world because you're now blaming them as part of the problem and not acting as though they can be a part of the solution, which is insane. But we see it all the time in so many ways. And where I don't really care what your thoughts are, which should be the only thing that actually matters. I care what you look like. And in the world of the FAA, and again, the thing that Elon and other people are putting out there that's so excellent, so valuable, is I care if we land safely. I don't care who you are and what you look like if you're good at getting that done. Quick break. A lot more. Craig Collins filling in in a very short amount of time on The Dana Show.
SPEAKER 18 :
You know that Ivermectin, they talk about it in terms of prevention, etc. It's simple, fast, and affordable to get it on All Family Pharmacy. These are doctors that you work with, like actual doctors, not like big pharma type doctors. And when you visit allfamilypharmacy.com, you can use code Dana and get 10% off your whole order. So I was taking my Ivermectin that I got from them. They've also helped me out like over Thanksgiving when I couldn't get into my doctor. And I know I'm getting strut throat. I know it's a thing. and I was able to get the antibiotics I need because I've been to this gut rodeo before, and their doctor was able to sign off. They sent it like in a day and a half, and that's not even expedited. That's just like how fast they sent it. You can skip the hassle, and here's what I really like about the medicines that they offer at All Family Pharmacy. It's not made in China. They're not made in China. These are all elements from the U.S. of A. So that's huge, I think, when you're looking at medicines and antibiotics and things like that. You can get comprehensive treatment options in addition to the ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine. You got antibiotics and over 200 other essential medicines. Visit allfamilypharmacy.com slash Dana for 10% off using promo code Dana. That's allfamilypharmacy.com slash Dana. Coupon code Dana10 gets you 10% off today.
SPEAKER 13 :
The Dana Show podcast. Your fast, funny, and informative news companion for those always on the move. Subscribe on YouTube, Apple, or wherever you get your podcasts.
SPEAKER 05 :
This is the Dana Show. My name is Craig Collins filling in. Thrilled to be with you. We're a little bit more than a week away from the Super Bowl, baby. A lot of people are excited about that. I kind of love one of the stories that's bouncing around out there, though. One of the very commonly Googled things right now. What is a tush push? To me, that's funny. It's a goal line play. I can explain it, but it doesn't matter. It's a one-yard line play. It doesn't have to happen at the goal line where you're trying to get a first down, get something. But I love the question, can the Chiefs stop the tush-push? And then the amount of people who get confused as to what they're actually talking about. Because, darn it, the Eagles have a great running back in Saquon Barkley. They have a great scrambling quarterback in Jalen Hurts. They have the ability to gain one yard fairly easily. But you're probably going to be asked that question. During the Super Bowl, as someone talks about it, whether it's Brady or someone else, someone's going to look at you and be like, what's what's a tush push? And you'll go that road. It's also called the brotherly shove if you're talking about the Eagles specifically. But I just love that that was a viral story out there in the world, in the world of. sports and actually you know what it reminds me of during um the uh nfc championship game you had jason kelsey uh formerly of the eagles now retired uh trying to explain a handoff during a tush push i was also very much amused by this and love that it's popping up on the internet now for people that are asking this question so darn it let's go ahead and play this real quick
SPEAKER 01 :
We're not hiding nothing. They know it's coming. We know it's coming. I'm going to get as low as possible, even in a four-point stance. My butt's up in the air. You have to make sure you're finishing to the hands. We actually saw some quarterback exchange issues early with Juergens this year because he had never done it in a live situation. You've got to do it. It's one of those things where... No matter how much you practice it, the game situation in that play is a thousand times different, more intense. Yeah, it is.
SPEAKER 05 :
I assume it's very intense in that last moment when you're trying to transfer the ball from the person hiking it to the quarterback taking it and then plunging forward. Goal line plunge, there's all other names for it, but tush push or brotherly shove is going to get a lot of attention. And then also, who knows if a lot of attention will be given to other places that people don't like. It's just amusing to me. I guess it doesn't really matter to a lot of others out there. Very quickly, before we get out of here, just some other silly stuff that I saw that I thought was interesting. Apparently, many, many people are complaining. Wendy's has a secret menu item everyone thought was purely a myth, but it does exist, which is a ridiculously sized hamburger where you ask for a nine patty hamburger. You call it the T-Rex and you get exactly that. You get something that people think is most of a cow. 2.1 million views. on TikTok and social media talking about the greasy, goopy, grubby, I think there's all kinds of other adjectives used to describe it, a giant sandwich you can get from Wendy's. Talk about the tush-push and the brotherly shove and the pure cow sandwich. What a way to end the show. Greg Collins filling in on the Dana Show.
