Gov. Ron DeSantis selects Florida Attorney General Ashley Moody to replace Marco Rubio in the US Senate. President Biden made his Farewell Address in the Oval Office in what sounded like a third-world Communist dictatorship that threatens democracy. Biden takes credit for the ceasefire between Israel and Hamas. Biden blames climate change for the wildfires in California in his Farewell Address. Director David Lynch dies at 78 while Baseball Broadcaster Bob Eucker passes at 90. The TikTok shutdown countdown begins. All of Trump’s Cabinet nominees look to be confirmed. A Washington Post Cartoonist gets arrested for having child p*rn on his computer. Senior Editor-At-Large at Newsweek, Josh Hammer, joins us to give us his perspective on the ceasefire between Israel and Hamas and the optics that Trump is taking before the Inauguration.
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This guy used to be in Congress, and he says to me and has said to me, I don't know why anybody would want that job. I said to him, I kind of agree with you, Governor. I don't know if you can tell, but I'm pretty energetic. I like to get things done, focus on problems, solve the problems, deliver those to the people that hire you, your bosses, the citizens. And there's a lot of deadlock in Washington. And then I thought more about that. And I thought, if every person with the same energy, the same love, the respect for our founding principles, the ideals on which this country was built on, if every person like that with that personality said, I don't think I'd like serving in Congress, then we'd never change that culture. And so you're probably right. I probably won't like it. But I'm ready to show up and fight for this nation and fight for President Trump to deliver the American first agenda on day one.
SPEAKER 24 :
So Florida AG Ashley Moody is going to be replacing Marco Rubio. That was announced today. Honestly. I thought this was going to be his pick from the get-go. So I'm not really surprised by it because she's a good pick. I mean, she's a fifth-generation Floridian. So she knows. I think it's really important that she knows what Florida was like before the red wave. And she was integral to helping to make Florida a red wave. Did you know, and I literally was today years old. I didn't know this. She got more raw vote totals more than any other statewide elected official in Florida. So she's super popular in the state of Florida. And this is a really good pick, a really good pick by DeSantis. And one that I kind of thought, you know, well, and the reason I was kind of suspecting it might be her is uh is because that's who i would pick if i were if i were him i would pick i would pick her because she's she's uh a really good she's a good lawmaker and she's a good state ag and uh i think that she's going to be a good senator so i love the fact because golly they're getting this done quick aren't they he's he's trying to do everything he can in that state To hit the ground running, because I think he I think DeSantis, more than any other governor in the country, understands that you have. And by you, I mean, like all especially really just elected officials. They have six months. And so he's going to have to do a lot statewide. to prepare for that and get as much done as possible and help the federal government in that way, that supplementation, while Trump is going to be wrangling. It's like herding cats. He's going to be dealing with all these lawmakers. As soon as six months, as soon as it gets close to midterms, these people are going to be terrified. They're not going to want to actually legislate conservatively. And they're going to run center. So he's trying to do everything possible to get to the point of being a good supplement for the administration, the incoming administration.
SPEAKER 22 :
Oh, my gosh. We got to talk about the outgoing administration.
SPEAKER 24 :
I am. Yeah. All right. So where do we even start with this? First off, welcome to the show. Dana Lash with you here. And we are at the top of our very first hour. And I'm pulling up a couple of things because Biden gave his his last address last night. And I didn't watch it live as it happened because I had a lot of stuff going on. But I did watch it later. I didn't want to, but I figured that he was going to be bitter and petty up until the very end. And guess what? He was bitter and petty until the very end. I was right. I was right again. We've got some audio of him because Audio Soundbite 5 was just chef's kiss. Listen to some of the stuff.
SPEAKER 08 :
Americans are being buried under an avalanche of misinformation and disinformation enabling the abuse of power. The free press is crumbling. Editors are disappearing. Social media is giving up on fact-checking. The truth is smothered by lies told for power and for profit. We must hold the social platforms accountable to protect our children, our families, and our very democracy from the abuse of power.
SPEAKER 24 :
So he's upset because social media is not going to remember. This is the same administration that was working with are working. Where am I? What am I talking about? Trying to force these companies to engage in censorship. Remember that? I mean, they were really they were trying to get them to engage in censorship over things like the laptop or the government injections, things like that. And they're mad over it. They're mad. They're mad because they got caught and they got spanked and they're mad over it. And the guy, what gets me is that he's sitting here telling everyone, oh, watch out for the oligarchy. You are that. You are the oligarchy. It's like that Spider-Man meme where two Spider-Men are pointing at each other. He's that. They were the ones that were putting all the pressure on the tech bros to censor everybody. They were putting pressure on the tech billionaires, all of this. They were trying to uh suppress uh speech and persecute people who engaged in it literally through numerous government agencies particularly the global engagement center with the state department and then don't forget you had the uh oh gosh what was it called the it's the ministry of disinformation but that's not what it's called i don't remember really do i need to remember i don't know because it doesn't exist anymore it was that theater kid that annoying theater chick oh my gosh i so It's just wild for him to sit here and lecture everyone on... We got to watch out for the right-leaning oligarchy. You were it. You were it. I mean, his party is literally funded by a super sketchy network of billionaires and dark money. I don't know. So he's... He's out. He's, you know, that was his swan song. Bitter, petty, completely tone deaf right until the very end. I mean, it's just... And he's warned, he said that, he said dangerous concentration power, concentration of power in the hands of very few wealthy elite. And he went after, he engaged in some class warfare. He went after, that's right before he was talking about the oligarchy. He was saying the dangerous consequences if their abuse of power is left unchecked. So the left believes that the abuse of power is not doing what they demand that you do. So, really, it's an exercise of free will. And they think an exercise of free will is something that God grants you, but Democrats won't because it's a cult. That it's somehow dangerous and it is an abuse of power to exercise your free will. Who are the people... And he mentioned... He was talking about the dangerous concentration of power in the hands of very few ultra-wealthy people. I mean, obviously, he's talking about Musk. But, I mean, let's not forget, he was successful in pressuring Zuckerberg, right? He was successful. They actually were pressuring Twitter, and Twitter was going along with it until Musk purchased it. Right up until the day that Musk purchased it and walked in literally with a sink, they were working in tandem with the administration in terms of suppression, etc. So... he's he's giving an address for him for his party that he should ultimately follow oh my gosh and then he talked i mean i have so many i have so many cuts we have so much audio and i have so many cuts of this uh like this this is audio somebody seven this is where he's talking about musk and uh and he again he loved twitter until musk bought it listen that's why my farewell address tonight i want to warn the country of some things that give me great concern
SPEAKER 08 :
And that's the dangerous concentration of power in the hands of a very few ultra-wealthy people. And the dangerous consequences if their abuse of power is left unchecked. Today, an oligarchy is taking shape in America of extreme wealth, power, and influence that literally threatens our entire democracy, our basic rights and freedoms, and a fair shot for everyone to get ahead.
SPEAKER 24 :
A fair shot. No, he's not talking about fair opportunity. He's talking about fair outcome. Again, the oligarchy is you, dude. The oligarchy is you. And he also touched on banning members of Congress from trading stock. But this, I thought, another bit of irony. And this is my last chance to dissect a Biden in office speech. So bear with me. Audio soundbite nine. Listen.
SPEAKER 08 :
We must reform the tax code. Not by giving the biggest tax cuts to billionaires, but by making them begin to pay their fair share.
SPEAKER 24 :
Okay, stop for a minute. I'm not going to be able to do the... You know why they pay more? You know, first off, they pay exactly what they're supposed to pay. And if there are loopholes, do you know how they get... They use the loopholes that the Bidens use. They use the loopholes that Barack Obama used. I mean, there was at one point where Barack Obama was paying less in taxes than I was because he's able to use the loopholes that... You know, folks in business and all these if you have organizations and all this that you're able to use. You guys created that when you put up this stupid rat ass system that forces everyone to give their income to a godless thug government. It's a thugocracy is what we have a republic, but a thugocracy in it. So don't sit here and get mad if somebody uses the pathways that you built for them and takes advantage of it to lower their tax burden, their extortion burden. Just, I'm sorry, you can go ahead and play the rest of it. I wasn't going to get through.
SPEAKER 08 :
We must reform the tax code. Not by giving the biggest tax cuts to billionaires, but by making them begin to pay their fair share.
SPEAKER 24 :
They pay everybody's fair share.
SPEAKER 08 :
We need to get dark money. That's that hidden funding behind too many campaigns. Yours, yours. We need to get it out of our politics. Literally yours. We need to enact an 18-year time limit. term limit, time and term, for the strongest ethics and the strongest ethics reform for a Supreme Court. We need to ban members of Congress from trading stock while they're in the Congress. Can he talk? We need to amend the Constitution.
SPEAKER 24 :
Somebody said that they blacked out the window so you couldn't tell it was pre-taped. I mean, and they were zooming in on it and they're like, this is clearly construction paper that is blacking out. It was like all Zapruder level analysis telling you he he was he's not going to go quietly into this this good night. He's going to rage, rage, rage against it, rage against it. Now, coming up, we got to get into this Hamas deal because I'm of two minds on it. And I think that some people are erroneously assuming that it means the end of hostilities, which it doesn't. It's just a temporary ceasefire and the trading of some of the hostages. And I don't even know. Apparently, none of the Americans are amongst the hostages that are being traded. So all the Americans are still held hostage by Hamas. And we better not spend one damn dime to rebuild Gaza, especially after they got it as a welfare gift from Israel. who gave them literally everything, and then they elected a thug government, and the thug government decided to go out and do terrorist thug stuff with all everybody's resources. So, no, we don't owe them anything. We're going to dive into all of that and more. We also, just heads up, we also have some of the latest with the cabinet, the appointments, the confirmations, etc., etc. We're going to get into all of that. It's our friends over at Tax Network USA, the government theft agency commonly known as the IRS. I've been sending up payout notices these payout notices already for 2025 and if you're dealing with back taxes or you got a tax debt you need to call the folks at tax Network USA they are the nation's top tax relief experts they've secured over a billion dollars in tax relief for their clients and they can help you doesn't matter if you have 10,000 or 10 million if you're an individual or a business they understand that the IRS can be super aggressive and it can be really risky and stressful to handle this stuff on your own so protect your financial security with professional guidance from tax network USA's experts they know how to navigate the system they save their clients over a billion dollars and they can help you as well they can also help you with payments hardship programs. They offer in-compromise solutions for lump sum settlements. They're here to help. Schedule a complimentary consultation by calling 1-800-958-1000 or visit TNUSA.com slash Dana. That's TNUSA.com slash Dana. Call Tax Network USA. Get their support and take charge of your financial future today.
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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
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I'm living my brat life today. I don't know why, but I feel real brat. I hate the English language right now. Anyway, so everything's going to be tinged with that. I'm setting you up for this headline real quick because it's not on my list. Nancy Pelosi is going to skip the Trump inauguration ceremony. And so is Michelle Obama. Now, I was told stuff like this is ignorant, sexist, racist, bigoted, whatever, xenophobic. So that rule stands. It stands. I'm not letting it go. So you guys are all ignorant. How dare you skip? I guess you hate America. You're spitting on the graves of our dead patriotic forefathers. You hate everything about you. You hate Eagles. You hate baseball. You hate apple pie. Show up. You don't get any passes. It's the rules. Dems to rules. Oh, here's a sports ball headline. I don't even know what this means. Oh, well, I know who Jerry Jones is because it's required before you're allowed to come to Texas. So he is looking to hire Deion Sanders? Really? I know who Deion Sanders is. Do I get a cookie for that? I know that guy.
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I am impressed.
SPEAKER 24 :
Only because he was in a lot of advertising when I was a kid. That's why I know Deion Sanders. He had some really good sponsorship deals. So anyway, could there be a Deion Sanders? Is it going to matter? No.
SPEAKER 27 :
There's a conspiracy theory behind this that he's going to draft his son Shador anyway for it to be quarterback.
SPEAKER 24 :
But is he like that good? Can he carry the team?
SPEAKER 27 :
Absolutely.
SPEAKER 24 :
Oh, OK, then let it happen. You know, maybe I can wear like some Dallas Cowboys stuff and not get, you know, defecated on by everybody else who follows some other team in the league. All right. PlayStation is adding smell to its games. I would imagine a game lobby smells like dirty feet, urine and stale Doritos. So maybe that's what they're adding into this. That smell from a game lobby. Yeah, I don't know why. I mean, do you really want to be able to smell your way through the horrible title called The Last of Us? Really? Is that something you want to do? All of the things like, I don't know, maybe they could have things to be more streamlined or work without glitches or things like that, you know, but no, it's going to be smell. They're adding the smells. Is it going to make you play better? No, no. It actually might make you play worse, but they're adding smells. The budget deficit rose in December. Yay, government spending. Let's just spend us all into forever servitude and death. It's now 40% higher than it was a year ago. But I was told that that old crusty man is leaving the new president a wonderful economy. Tell that to everybody. He's got to lock up everything from tampons to deodorants in their local Target. People were stumped because somebody is leaving tomatoes on a bridge in Ireland in a bizarre trend and they can't figure out why. Because apparently they don't have things called cameras in Dublin and they can't figure out how to find out why. Also, let's see here. GoFundMe. It's also turning into a national archive of LA wildfire horror stories. It's kind of sad. And then I got a headline coming up in our next headline segment about ancient treasure. Yay! Stay with us. We got updates on the Hamas deal. It's our friends over at ReadyWise. They're always ready even if you're not. And ReadyWise is security and simplicity. To have survival food, it doesn't have to taste horrible. You can have great tasting survival food. You can get that with ReadyWise. They have an in-house team of culinary experts that make sure that every single thing you purchase meets the nutritional requirements so that you're getting the good calories, you're getting all your caloric needs met, the good carbs, protein, everything that you need to maintain energy and get you through whatever's got us sideways. It's also great to go out camping. I love this. My grandpa would equip his camper. He would go out in the He would eat Spam and my grandma's sweet sun tea. That's all the man ate. I would imagine that he would like this so much better to go out hunting with than Spam, although the sun tea is real good too. This is great though. You can have solo meals, ideal for groups. It's comfort in a crisis and beyond. And they have product choices to meet every budget. You're not going to get any better quality survival food on the market. And these are all U.S. ingredients packed in a U.S. plant and sent to your home. You know the chain of command for your food when it counts. So visit ReadyWise.com. Use promo code Dana20 at checkout and get 20% off of your entire purchase. ReadyWise.com. Promo code Dana20 for 20% off.
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This L7 track is a mood right now. It's just such a mood. It's just my spirit animal. Welcome back to the program. It's L7's Shove, by the way, which is a really nice 90s track. Dana Lash here with you at the bottom of this first hour. It sets the stage for this next topic, too. I want to go right to Audio Soundbite 4, Jackie Heinrich, who asked Joe Biden, who's getting credit for this hostage deal? Is it you or is it Trump? Listen.
SPEAKER 25 :
Thank you. Who books credit for this, Mr. President, you or Trump?
SPEAKER 24 :
And he walks away. Oh, no. What?
SPEAKER 08 :
Is that a joke?
SPEAKER 24 :
Oh, thank you. Is that a joke? And she says, no.
SPEAKER 1 :
And he's like, no, then I won't answer.
SPEAKER 24 :
Yeah. It's like, oh, no, I'm not. He says that audio soundbite six, that it was him. Listen.
SPEAKER 08 :
After eight months of nonstop negotiation by administration, by my administration, a ceasefire and a hostage deal has been reached by Israel and Hamas. The elements of which I laid out in great detail in May this year. This plan was developed and negotiated by my team and will be largely implemented by the incoming administration. That's why I told my team to keep the incoming administration fully informed, because that's how it should be.
SPEAKER 24 :
Working together as Americans. Well, that deal is probably not going to happen. Now the Hamas is like, well, wait a minute. We had a chance to not, you know, to stop being thug dogs, thug terrorists. But now we're not going to. We're going to go and mess around some more. So everybody was like falling over themselves to take advantage of to take credit for this deal yesterday. And remember, I told you that it hadn't been. given any kind of final approval because Israel was still looking it over and then they had to send it through their cabinet and all of this stuff. And Hamas always does this. They always just defecate in the punch bowl in the last hour. And that's no different. They did it with the same thing. I mean, I think the deal is weird. If I'm being honest with you about it, because I don't know why we're giving them back anybody. I get it that people are trying to get these hostages out. But I really think that I mean, first off, if you're if you're giving them go ahead, fine, go ahead and give them their hostages and then wait till you have all of yours and then blow them all up. You know, they're all going to be concentrated in one spot, right? Like just blow them all up. Just blow them all to hell. Just do it. This but this isn't going to happen. I mean, Hamas, every single every single ceasefire has been broken by Hamas. Every single deal has been broken by Hamas without exception. I don't know why anyone thought this was going to be any different. This is why I was like, I'm not going to just sit here and speculate yesterday about everything that this deal means, because it's probably not going to happen. And Israel was even saying that, well, you know, we there's some things in here that we got to we have to kind of straighten out a little bit. So this isn't Hamas never negotiates a single thing in good faith ever, ever. There is no gesture of goodwill. There is no good faith. None of it. I mean, it's great if they're able to get some of these hostages back. And I hope so at some point. Apparently, none of the Americans were listed amongst them. I don't know if you guys were following any of that, but apparently they weren't listed among some of those that were going to be released. So I don't know. I I think that. Hamas, especially after watching all of this, that there was no serious way or no, there was no seriousness about this. They were not approaching this in a serious fashion. And this is, from what I understand, wasn't this the deal that they were trying to get back in May that Hamas wanted in May? Yeah, actually. I think this is the deal that they wanted in May because it called for 33 living hostages and then Hamas changed the deal to say alive or bodies. I think that for every hostage that's dead, anybody in Israeli custody from Hamas should be killed also. Body for body. In fact, make it a two for one. I'm just tired of pretending that we have to... Acting like we have to be civil to these barbarians, and that's an insult to barbarians, acting like we have to be civil to these demons is a formality that I don't have the patience for. I'm tired of it because these thugs thrive on the indulgence of your patience. They thrive on the indulgence of your understanding. They thrive on the formality of civility in a civilization that has lost it in everything but theater. So I don't know why we're entertaining this. I mean, maybe there's a reason, but I couldn't explain to you what it is. And I realized, too, the families want to get back their family members, their loved ones. I understand that. This deal, though, I mean, it's pretty much the same deal. I don't know. It seems like it's the same deal. Now, I will say that it's for some of the hostages, not all. And it's not a permanent end to hostilities. It's only temporary. And that's pretty much it. Pretty much it. And I don't know. We'll see. But the thing, it's sad. There were apparently still seven. There were seven Americans that were being held. Only three are still alive, apparently. Of the seven Americans that are being held in Gaza, only three are still alive. And apparently, I don't know, the deal that was being negotiated, which was pretty much the May deal, They were saying that they may release the Americans, but it wasn't guaranteed. I don't know how that's a thing. And that as well as they said no prisoners could be exchanged for Americans. They had to be handed over without conditions, etc. I don't know. We'll see. I don't know. We'll see how this goes. Now, Lorraine says, well, the deal might be back on because they're trying to resolve this last minute crisis. Never underestimate Hamas's ability to screw it up again, though. But it is really ultimately a it's just it's just this deal again. So we've done all of this for the May deal. I don't know. It's frustrating. But at the same time, it is very difficult when you know that people are wanting their family members back. And it's a lot easier for all of us to say it. You know, the deal is never going to be great. Because you're always trading innocents for terrorists. You're trading innocent people who were kidnapped through no fault of their own. And you're trading them for terrorists. So immediately, just starting out, it sucks. It's not the best. And Hamas wants to remain in control. So any deal about ending hostilities, they're going to demand that. And they should never get it. Hamas just has to be destroyed. But here's the problem. You can't just destroy Hamas because the Gazans elected them. They put them in power. They love Hamas. Gazans love Hamas. That's why poll after poll that's actually been taken, not just by international European media agencies, but even those on the ground that not necessarily are Hamas run. They have overwhelming popularity in Gaza to the point where they were going to win the next election. And they were also going to take control in West Bank because they were so popular. They were more popular than any other. So you can you can remove their terrorist government, but you're going to get more terrorists running it. It can't be independent. It's a threat. And when you have generation after generation of people raised to think that blowing themselves up and in the name of whatever God they worship, that that's that's that's a religious war. That's not something you're going to solve with policy or regime change. That is a deep generational psychological wound. And you're not going to be able to paper over it with policy and regulation. So that's why it can't ever be independent. It just needs to be part of Israel. And they just need to they just need they had their chance. They got this strip of land, handed it to them like glorified welfare recipients. All these welfare. There are a bunch of welfare recipients in Gaza with a terrorist government. They handed over this strip of land that had all the infrastructure. It's like getting a free home that's fully furnished. It's exactly what they got. And they had groceries in the fridge, fresh food in the fridge, a stocked pantry. That's exactly what they got. They got the greenhouses. They got all the irrigation. They got the water plants, the sewage, all of everything. Absolutely everything. Homes. Farms, all of it. Schools, hospitals. They were just given it. And Israel unilaterally withdrew. I don't give a rat's ass what your backwoods, cousin-loving, incestual product of logic tells you out there about, oh, Israel and the Jews and whatever. I don't give a rat's ass. If you can't acknowledge the basic fact that that strip was given to them like a fully furnished home, get out. People who can't even acknowledge that are too stupid to exist on this earth, in my opinion. Now, because they don't believe anything. They're like the people who think that their earth is flat. I'm so tired of pretending to be nice for this stuff. You have seven Americans over there. Three of them are living because these terrorist thugs killed everybody else. And you've got these simps out there. Oh, but Hamas and Gaza. Simp, simp, simp, simp, simp. You got those people out there kissing the ass of these terrorists, making arguments on behalf of these terrorists. For what? Forgive my Portuguese. I'm not Dora the Explorer. I'm not raising y'all's kids. So what are we getting? Israel wanted the ability to eliminate threats. They wanted to get back as many of the hostages as possible. And they wanted to reconsider. I mean, I think that they need to maintain control of Gaza. They didn't demand it. That's what Hamas has demanded. Hamas doesn't care anything else about its own people. So that's why I don't care whenever I see a headline about destruction in Gaza, because Gazans don't care about Gazans. So why should they demand everyone else care more than they do? Quit electing terrorists, you terrorists. Super easy. Dana, you're so mean. No, I'm a realist. Some people you just cannot coexist with. That's a stupid sticker brought on by people too dumb for geopolitical issues. So I don't know. Hamas can't stay in control. That's the thing. So there's not going to be any kind of permanent, you know, and it's going to be it's Israel has to do its best for Israel. But we have three Americans living still that are over there. Is it America first to push for their release? Or are we going to sacrifice those three Americans at the altar of placating Hamas? I mean, how many Americans have we sacrificed at the altar of placating Hamas over the years? How many American soldiers, if we had blown up, placating the Iran stooge in Gaza? Just curious. Does anybody have an answer? Yeah, too many. So we'll see. But might be back on. We'll see. But there's not going to be any single kind of deal, a permanent agreement to end hostilities. It can't with Hamas being in charge still. It's just not something that can happen. Did you guys will talk about this year coming up? Hunter Biden, his beautiful artworks came. Have you heard about this? Hunter Biden's beautiful spit coke art that's worth millions and millions of dollars was just some of a lot of it was destroyed in the L.A. fires. Oh, really? We'll talk about that coming up. With everything going on in the world right now, the economy, conflicts, the open border, spiraling national debt, the devastating inflation, it's critical that you have a plan for diversifying and protecting your savings. And that's why so many, including myself, have turned to precious metals like gold and silver to help protect our savings. 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The American people have gone through a lot in these four years. And so we understand that it's going to take a little bit of time for them, for folks to see the impact that this administration has had.
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Wow.
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Well, what impact? I mean, we've seen the impact that it's had. It hasn't been very good. You know, I mean, we've kind of seen that. We've seen how that worked out. Hasn't been great. Welcome back to the program. Dana Lash with you. That's why everybody's very, very excited for the switch. Just got to hold on until next week. The economy has to hold on until next week. Everything's got to hold on until next week. You know, one of the things that I read is that Elon Musk, Jeff Bezos, Mark Zuckerberg, Sam Altman, and Suu Kyi, who's the chief executive of TikTok, are all going to be sitting up on the dais with Trump when he's sworn in as president. It's kind of interesting, is that not? That's very interesting. Is that... I don't know. Do we want them all to be up there? Why not? I mean, yeah, I guess so.
SPEAKER 12 :
I mean, they're all self-made millionaires. It's not like they were just...
SPEAKER 24 :
Yeah, but for Zuckerberg, I mean, I just don't believe that he was unaware. If you were unaware that your employees are doing this to people and you yourself get banned and you didn't – or you yourself had stuff cited and fact-checked and that's the only thing that – I mean, you didn't hear all the people for years telling you that this was happening to them. That's why I just –
SPEAKER 12 :
When the government comes down on you hard, like the Democrats clearly did.
SPEAKER 24 :
I mean, it's great that he's decided after it was applied to him that he needed to speak out against what his company was doing. But that doesn't mean you invite them up on the dais when you swear into office, you know?
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, but I think it's more of a statement of a cultural shift. I think that you're seeing that, especially when you see a Bezos up there, like for crying out loud.
SPEAKER 24 :
Yeah, I mean, again, I just don't know. I don't know how I feel about that. I get real weird when you get all the tech titans up there.
SPEAKER 12 :
Be cautious, and that's completely understandable. I'm with you on that.
SPEAKER 24 :
I mean, the only people I trust less than government are the tech titans. I just – it's just part of my American DNA. I just – it's just not something – I don't know. Just – I don't know.
SPEAKER 12 :
But – Those people were addressed just minutes ago on the – in the hearing for the confirmation of the Treasury Secretary, Scott.
SPEAKER 24 :
Yeah. Well, they're all going to be – because you know how when you grow up and the president is up there and they – Like when he was back in like 2016 and you had Melania Trump in her Ralph Lauren dress, it was a very lovely dress. It was a very nice like tweed blue dress, it was a great cut. And when he's up there and he's got his hand, everybody that's up there, you have like former presidents and their wives, you have like the speaker of the house, high standing officials, sometimes like the mega donors. Get up there and buy mega donors. I mean, millions of dollars, which sort of makes sense, I guess, for Zuck and Bezos because they've donated a million each to the inaugural stuff because you still have to raise funds to pay for all the inauguration. It's not like Britain where whenever they have their new monarch, the taxpayers pay for it. They have to raise the funds to pay for all the pageantry that you see. And so maybe, I don't know, maybe that's why. I don't know.
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It's a good representation of the potential in America. Like, look, this is a level of success that we're seeing in a free country. And I hope that that whole philosophy is what bleeds into these next four years.
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I think it's hysterical that the left is so threatened by it. And I you know, the other thing I was thinking about, too, is does that not is that not a measure of how deep leftist ideology can go? That you can switch all these people were committed to leftist stuff, you know, that are going to be sitting up on the dais. And now they're going to be up there. They're going to be up there with Trump. They went from censoring conservatives. Now they're up on stage as he is sworn into office. Very interesting. We got a lot more on the way. Second hour. Stick with us. If you're tired of the it's like insane. Like if you get sick, like, for instance, over Thanksgiving, I was sick. I knew that I was getting strep throat. My throat was on fire. I knew I was sick. My one of my college kids came back sick. I got sick from him. He was already on antibiotics. I've been down this road before. I know I'm sick. Do I have to go and pay an astronomical copay? That's if I can even get in, you know, to my doc that it's a mess. And I family coming in. I don't have time to be sick. All family pharma. I know exactly what I need. And they have doctors that will evaluate it digitally. And, you know, you can even do a telehealth thing with them if you want to. But they have doctors that look over your prescription, look over the medicines that you're looking at, and they sign off on it and you get it sent right to your door. And if you need it next day, which is what I did, you can actually do that as well. It's affordable access. There's no red tape and no hassle. And these are not Chinese antibiotics. I know you would think you a lot of people assume now that's probably Chinese. No, no. They're all made in the USA, which is actually kind of rare. So these medications are made right here in the United States. So, you know, you're getting high standards of quality and safety. You don't have to worry about, you know, communist Chinese medicines. And that's what makes all family pharma so different from everybody else. And they empower you to take charge of your health. And they've helped thousands and thousands and thousands of patients all across the country. And again, no red tape, no hassle, fast and convenient delivery. I had azithromycin. I mean, you name it, you can get an antibiotic for it. Go to allfamilypharma.com slash Dana and see everything that you can access. And use code Dana10 to get 10% off your purchase. Protect yourself and your family today. Allfamilypharma.com slash Dana. Code Dana10 for 10% off.
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You have said that Department of Justice prosecutors will be prosecuted in the Trump administration. What Department of Justice prosecutors will be prosecuted and why?
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I said that on TV. I said prosecutors will be prosecuted, to finish the quote, if bad. Investigators will be investigated. You know, we all take an oath, Senator, to uphold the law. None of us are above the law. Let me give you a really good example of a bad lawyer within the Justice Department, a guy named Klein Smith, who altered a FISA warrant, one of the most important things we can do in this country. So will everyone be held to an equal... Equal, fair system of justice. If I am the next attorney general, absolutely. And no one is above the law.
SPEAKER 24 :
That's Pam Bondi from yesterday when she was going after Senator Sheldon Whitehouse and saying, yeah, Chris Clinesmith, the guy who literally altered a FISA warrant to hide the Democrats lies to go after Carter Page. Yeah, that's an example of a bad attorney. In the DOJ. Welcome back to the program, Dana Lash, with you. I think Pam Bondi gets confirmed. And I think Pete Hegseth, I think that he's probably going to have the votes. Yeah, I think he'll probably end up getting confirmed. I don't think that there is. Is there anybody who probably won't at this point? I don't think so. I really don't think so. Yeah. Welcome back to the program. Dana Lash with you. Top of the second hour. And we've been going back and forth watching all of this. The Hamas deal is off the rails and it's back on. And it's I mean, it's just completely back and forth nonstop. So we'll see. All we know is that it nothing's confirmed. And they they had a last minute crisis. And I don't know. We'll see. But I do think it's just, you know, I mean, you're releasing a lot of prisoners for a lot of terrorists. And I noticed that Netanyahu had tweeted out a thank you to Trump for it. So he acknowledged Trump, but he said nothing about Biden. And the State Department currently, Corinne Jean-Pierre, was dismissing the idea that Trump or his transition team would deserve any credit. And I don't know. The problem, though, is... I mean, these hostages have been held, I read, like, 468 days. And... This is only going to be a temporary ceasefire to trade some of these hostages back of the seven Americans. Only three are still alive. Hamas has broken every single ceasefire with Israel repeatedly.
SPEAKER 1 :
2003, 2007, 2008.
SPEAKER 24 :
In 2014, it's like 10 or 11 times they broke. They broke it. And then when they have these ceasefires, there's always some sort of, you know, they always send terrorists over to shoot or try to blow somebody up. I mean, it just it never ends. You're they never actually cease the fire. I mean, and that if you're not ceasing your firing, you can't demand that other people also cease their fire if you're not doing it. They killed six hostages, including one American citizen. And that's when IDF forces closed in. That was back last fall. And they killed him. They killed him. And it just keeps going. So they said that they had operatives guarding Israeli hostages in the buildings and tunnels of Gaza. And I don't know. There's a lot of questions, I think, including why, after all of this time, All of these months later, does it seem like we're going back to this May deal? Because it's based on the May 2024 framework. I don't know. Why does most of the press believe Hamas over everybody else? I think it's because people hate Jewish people. Can we just have a real quick talk here for a minute? What the hell? It's 2025. I think it's just because there are people who just don't like Jewish people. And then they try to mask it by saying, oh, we just don't like the Israeli government. That's a really big difference from some of the stuff that I hear from folks. Don't try to conflate it because it just makes you look dumb. I mean, I don't agree with everything that the Israeli government does. I don't agree with any government 100%. But there's a difference between policy dispute and then the dispute that's based on stereotype. That's just people just not liking, you know, like the, it's Hitlerific. People not liking, you know, just because they're Jewish. I think that's what a lot of it is. I see stuff on X all the time and Facebook all the time. Doesn't matter, Instagram all the time. Doesn't matter who owns it. It's just there. It's a platform. And the crazy people are always the loudest. And there are people who Think it's, you know, how dare you not say that? I always get tons of grief whenever I say Gazan. Oh my gosh, I get tons of grief. Well, I don't use made up terms. I don't use made up terms. That's what that strip of land is called. So I will say it's Gaza and the people who live there are Gazans. I'm not going to make up a fictional country and act and create out of the ether a new ethnicity and pretend that it's supported by thousands of years of iniquity because it's not. And I'm talking about the whole phrase Palestine and Palestinian. But the problem is, and Cain, I think we've had this problem since 9-11. It's not a... policy or land dispute. It is literally a religious war for these people. And you can't mitigate the consequences of that with policy. You can't fight a holy war with policy and government regulation. It's not how that works. But that's how we in the United States have approached it since Bush. Without change, I think. I think there was a little bit of a difference with Trump, but I also don't think, and I know this sounds crazy, but I'm not saying this as an excuse. I know people do this all the time, but this is just the reality of it. You're talking about generational conflict. Four years is not going to change it, especially when you're fighting against your own government the entire time for those four years. But I think that was probably the most different approach than we've seen in prior years. So it's just, it's been weird to sit and watch all of this over the decades and see how, I mean, they were asked, like just for instance, Karine Jean-Pierre was asked yesterday, was that her final press, I think it was her final press avail yesterday, right? Yeah. She was asked about the ceasefire and the agreement and who gets credit for that because it's a big thing with the press. The press is like, who gets credit? And she said, everyone's going to want some credit. All I can say is that the president got it done. What president? Because no one actually believes that Biden was talking to Hamas or to their reps in Qatar. No one actually believes that Biden was sitting there negotiating anything with Netanyahu. Come on. Did you hear that? I mean, have you heard his audio lately? Have you heard him? It's bad. I mean, his the stuff that he said yesterday, it's just it's bad. Like, for instance, Biden, this is just somebody 10. The fires in California that he says it's climate change.
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Listen, right now, the existential threat of climate change has never been clear. What? Just look across the country from California to North Carolina.
SPEAKER 26 :
It's a central threat, Cain. Those are the worst threats.
SPEAKER 24 :
Again, I think he's saying these guys' names wrong. All these people have been arrested for arson. Their names are Clemente Change. Thank you. Climate change is like a real broke way of saying it. It's the Change family. You've heard of the Change's, haven't you, Kane? Yeah. And their son, Clamate. Who knew that there were so many people named Clamate Change who were setting fires in California? That's so wild. I could never have predicted that firebugs would come out. And, you know, of course, the state of California isn't going to have a plan for it. It is so much more important to spend billions of dollars enriching all the corrupt kleptocrats in government with a railway to nowhere than actually, you know, spend any money on the desalination plants or anything like that. Water capture. Maybe, I don't know, advocate for clearing of the brush. I don't you guys maybe saw that photo. He put it up yesterday. Caitlyn Jenner. He had a picture of his house and he and we've had a lot of friends posting photos on Facebook. I would share them on our simulcast, but it has I don't like to show people's houses and stuff. But a lot of our friends, they have been following. And this is why they followed in suit. They've been posting pictures of the ones who live next to either federal land or state land and all of their properties there. Can I be real? It looks like dirt. Like they don't really have like yard yards. They have like desert landscaping. There's a lot of rocks and there's like some desert. I mean, it's the desert, you know, and they don't really have like lush like, you know, and the ground is is brown. We have friends who they live like on the side of a canyon and And you can see as you're looking down the photo that they had and you can see their house in it. So I'm not showing it on the simulcast. But from their house down in the canyon to a certain part in the canyon, it is like dirt. It's just dirt. It's like not even like dead grass. It's just dirt. Dirt rocks. And then they have a fence. And then there's all of this underbrush and growth. And it goes into this canyon. And you can watch it go up. It's growing on the other side of the embankment in the canyon. And so many people have been posting these pictures. And they're like, this is the difference. Like what Caitlyn Jenner, what he posted yesterday. This is the difference because... You have to keep your land clear cut like that if you live in a fire zone, which is most of the area there. And if you don't, you get serious fines. But they are all showing their land abutting state or federal land. And the state or federal land is just coded. they're not allowed to remove any underbrush on that state land or federal land bureau of land management will get on your backside if you do it and the state will find you if you do it but yet they are not allowed to do it and that is actually being attributed for one of the major causes of this fire spreading so fast and blazing so hot because there's so much for it to consume You know, when you look out West and we had a guest on earlier this week that talked about this, there are significant portions of states out West that are owned by the federal government or that it is state run land. And in California, it's no different. And so there's a lot we have had. I can't tell you how many friends that we have. who either live in... They live in a subdivision that butts up. If their property doesn't, their whole subdivision is like right next to state-maintained land or federal land. And every single one of them have been saying the exact same thing. They're all going out there and like showing video and all of this. And the neighborhoods that didn't burn... Those are the or where they had like the least damage. They were extensively maintaining their land so that even if they were right up next to state land and that was burning, they did everything possible to keep that fire from spreading into their neighborhood. The state of California, I don't know how they come out of this without hundreds of billions of dollars in lawsuits. I don't know. There are so many receipts. I have four stories just today, brand new reporting that get into the dereliction of duty on water capture, clearing of undergrowth within the state of California and their land and wildlife management and the reservoirs. All brand new stuff. That's how bad this is. I don't see how they get through this without hundreds of billions of dollars of lawsuits. People are going to be suing the state of California because their dereliction of duty contributed to this. If it didn't cause it outright, because aren't they saying that the Palisades fire started on state land? That's one of the things that I read. They're still investigating it, but that's the theory. As we move our partners who help bring you the program, it's the non-firearm firearm. It's the burn a gun. It's a. It's a... I mean, you can get different models. You can get one that's, you know, rifle. You can get the pistol. The Berna SD is the most popular model. Now, what do I mean by non-firearm firearm? Well, it shoots chemical irritant projectiles that can disable threats from up to 50 feet away compared to, oh, I don't know, stun guns, regular stun gun. You get one or two shots. With this, you get five rounds with this. And so the... burn a gun does not care about gun-free zone signs. It does not care about waiting periods or anything like that. There's no background checks. 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And now all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
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All right. So you're not going to miss any of this. I wanted to get to the one that talks about the ancient treasure. So apparently this is a huge find. I would love to find something like this. But it was buried at a nuclear plant site. They found it in the UK near, I think, Cornwall. But it was they said that it was that or no, not in Cornwall. It was in Suffolk, England. Sizewell Sea Nuclear Power Station. They found a bunch of old coins, like a thousand years old, a bunch of old coins predating the Magna Carta by 200 years and the Battle of Hastings by several decades. Mint condition in a lead and cloth package. And the researchers compared it to a Cornish pasty. They said that they, I don't know what that was. They said that the, it's like a purse. Wrapped tightly in lead sheeting. They're in mint condition, they said. You can see every inscription onto it. It is wild. So that's a huge find. Would you love to find something like that? How fun would that be? Also, let's see. This, coldest temperatures in a year are going to arrive tomorrow. It's going to feel like minus 40 in some of the coldest zones. I don't like any of this at all. It needs to stop. I'm done with it. I'm ready for summer. I only have five seconds for winter and it's going to be cold like next like next Monday. I mean, it's going to be like in the 20s here. No, Cain, I am not down for this life. Nope. TikTok is preparing for a U.S. shutdown from Sunday, say sources. We're going to talk more about that here coming up. Stick with us. We've got a lot more in store. And our partners for the program, new to the show, they're Preborn. It's a great organization that works with women as they determine how to handle an unexpected, unplanned pregnancy. And Preborn gives women the opportunity to meet their babies, to have an ultrasound to hear their heartbeat and when that happens a child's chance at life doubles and it's uh it's a pretty amazing thing and when you consider that abortions are actually increasing especially with the abortion pill it's more usually with the abortion pill than even going into these clinics and so that's what makes pre-borns work all the more important And they have matching grants. So when you donate, because all of this is possible because you donate and you can start, I mean, you can save a life at just $28. They have a matching grant. So your donation goes twice as far in saving lives. And in addition to the ultrasounds, you're also helping pre-born partner with these women to make sure that their babies get the best start all the way up until two years of life. So it's pretty amazing what they do. Your donations are what power it. And it's very simple. Dial pound 250, say the keyword baby. and that's how you do it. Pound 250, keyword baby. You can also visit preborn.com slash Dana and donate online. Every contribution counts. Preborn.com slash Dana, pound 250, say the keyword baby.
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Man, horrible news, horrible news. Welcome back, Dana Lash. At the bottom of this second hour, David Lynch has passed away. The legendary. Director, writer. I think most people knew him from Eraserhead and Blue Velvet and Twin Peaks, obviously, which is how I Mulholland Drive, Lost Highway. Oh, my gosh. He was he's one of my favorite directors. I've seen everything that he's done. He's crazy. And I loved it. He's so my kids are like, we do not, especially the second Twin Peaks. They're like, it's David Bowie's voice as like a machine ghost. What in the world? but he had been diagnosed with emphysema. He smoked all his life, and he wasn't able to direct anymore, and then he announced that he was going to be leaving his house. His family announced on Facebook his passing. They said, quote, it is with deep regret that we, his family, announced the passing of the man and the artist, David Lynch. We would appreciate privacy. I love this. They said, there's a big hole in the world now that he's no longer with us, but as he would say, keep your eye on the donut and not on the hole. They said it's a beautiful day with golden sunshine and blue skies all the way. He has on X. He would announce that it's Friday every day or every week. It's Friday and his, you know, his typical style. He was and he wasn't a woke. He was not a woke scold. I think that he was actually pretty libertarian. He was not a woke scold at all. And he never got super political. He was just very practical and common sense. But he did some really crazy stuff. I mean, film noir, he was able to put together like thriller and whodunit and the film noir, horror, all of it into one thing, like an amalgam. And he really, I think, defied a lot of the rules of various genres. He's just, he, Quentin Tarantino, these are some of my absolute favorite directors. And, uh, he worked as, I mean, he did stuff as a, uh, an artist too. He painted a whole bunch of stuff. Eraserhead was his first, the first thing that he did. Um, And it got a cult following over the years. Mulholland Drive was crazy. And Lost Highway was almost impossible to follow. But it was still really well done. He just did some really great stuff. And Twin Peaks... Everything from the music to the casting to the story, as crazy down into the wormhole as you got with Twin Peaks, it still made sense. And you wanted more at the end of every episode. I mean, Agent Cooper, Kyle McClanahan played Agent Cooper brilliantly. And Sherilyn Fenn was always amazing. I mean, the way that he handled that whole series, my parents let me watch that when I was a kid because that was like, I think I was in sixth grade when it came out. Uh, the first, cause it only ran for two seasons. And I think I was in, I was like in sixth going into seventh grade. And, uh, my parents let me watch twin peaks and I was just riveted. And, uh, they, I, my mom let me watch whatever. And then I had to go and see everything that he did. But, uh, he also, he also did, uh, he worked with Mel Brooks on a film about the guy who was the elephant man. I can't remember the guy's name who actually was the elephant man. Uh, he's done all kinds of stuff, but, um, And then Dune. I mean, Twin Peaks is the thing that he's like memed for, I think. And then Bob Euchre passed away. So remember my grandma's rule of three, guys. So my grandmother, if you're just joining us, welcome back. Dana Lash with you. My grandmother has a rule with celebrity deaths. It's always in threes. God love her. Rest her soul. She was a crazy, morbid woman. Loved her. But that was her role. And whenever you would, if anybody, if they're like, oh, so-and-so passed, like a famous person or even someone that wasn't famous that she just knew, she would go, well, that's one or that's two. Like she was heaven's, you know, she was the one keeping track for heaven. It was funny. So who he got in the death pool, man? Who's next? There's going to be a third. That's going to be a third.
SPEAKER 12 :
It's morbid.
SPEAKER 24 :
It's the way the world works. I don't make the rules.
SPEAKER 12 :
Even ask that is morbid.
SPEAKER 24 :
Bob Uecker, who, by the way, hasn't he been alive for forever?
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 24 :
Can I just I'm not saying this to be mean. Bob Uecker was an old man when I was a kid.
SPEAKER 1 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 24 :
And he's still an old man was, you know, until just like now. But yeah. Wow. So who's the third? Steve, you got any ideas? Oh, man.
SPEAKER 27 :
I hope it's not a musician. There's always the worst for me.
SPEAKER 24 :
Yeah. Musicians are bad. I mean, if they're like these two are. I mean, I didn't follow Bob Uecker, but he always seemed good natured and he made stuff fun. But man, David Lynch, that's gosh dang. I loved his. It's a Friday. I loved his. Oh, I'm sad now. But there's got to be a third one. I don't want to like Google like for old sick celebrities, but. Yeah. Who's going to die next dot com. I feel like I have to deliver everything for the rest of the show in a David Lynch style now. Who's going to die next? Oh, keep your eye on the donut, not the hole. That's I think I need to cross stitch that. Yeah, that's sage advice. That would be, you know what, for the Patch Ops guys, that would be a good patch. Keep your eye on the donut, not the hole. That's so great. But you know that if you wear something like that at SHOT Show, everybody there is going to take it the wrong way on purpose. Joyously so. You know that, right? Oh, all right. So we had David Lynch has passed away. Variety, they announced it on Facebook and then Variety confirmed it because I don't think a lot of people were believing it. Uh, and, uh, just the famous, like one of the, one of the great 78 years old. And then of course you have Bob Uger, uh, and everybody, I think everybody knows who Bob Uger is, but he's passed away. How old was Bob Uger? He was 90, right? Yeah. He was like 90 years old. Uh, but he's been around for forever. I mean, I remember him from major league and he was, he's always been the same age, uh, He was born with gray hair. I'm positive that he was born like a 50-year-old man. I feel like he was because he's never, literally never changed.
SPEAKER 12 :
I've looked back at pictures like when you see old professional football player photos from when they were in college, and they looked like they were 45 in college. Like, how does that happen?
SPEAKER 23 :
Oh, man. So that's...
SPEAKER 24 :
Yeah, so that's some of the latest. Well, gosh dang, I'm going to miss his Friday announcements. Those were the best. And I liked Bob Euchre when he was broadcasting. But he hadn't broadcast a lot, though, the last year of his life, I don't think. Last couple of years, if memory serves. All right, so a few other things to discuss. TikTok is preparing for U.S. shutdown from Sunday. I am not on TikTok. I try, I used to be like some years ago I was on social media a lot and then I just realized how much I hated looking like an influencer. And so now it, it is, I don't even share a lot of personal stuff. And I think that's been like that since the Parkland days. But, um, I don't know. It's just it's it's weird. So I don't do I feel like I should probably like go back and do more stuff on social, which I probably will. I'm getting there. I'm getting there. But I've never done TikTok. And I just I because it's like another platform that you're going to have another password and a whole other thing to monitor. And nobody's got time for that. But now it may not matter because they're going to it's going to be U.S. users from Sunday. They're not going to be they're going to be shut out because unless the Supreme Court moves to block it, you're going to have a ban on it. Do you think that ban's going to go through? I don't know if SCOTUS is going to block it. Now, there was one. Lorraine gave me the actual name of the app. There's no way I'm pronouncing this. There's no way. It's entirely made of consonants.
SPEAKER 12 :
Xiaohongshu? No, it's not. Xiaohongshu? I think that's how you'd pronounce it.
SPEAKER 24 :
Well, they call it Red Note. And it's supposed to translate, she says, into Little Red Book. Like, you know, Mao Zedong's Little Red Book. Remember? So, say it again.
SPEAKER 12 :
Xiao Hongshu?
SPEAKER 24 :
I feel like right now I'm in Mighty Boosh and I'm just going to like hold up my voice recorder, you know, like when Pocket Cup, you know, like things like that. Like Gorilla.
SPEAKER 12 :
Xiao Hongshu.
SPEAKER 24 :
Xiao Hongshu.
SPEAKER 12 :
Xiao Hongshu.
SPEAKER 24 :
Okay. So anytime I want to call, I'm going to point to you and you just say it.
SPEAKER 12 :
Okay.
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So like it's called Red Note, but it means... Xiao Hongshu. That's right. Which translates to Little Red Book. It's Chinese-owned, though. Why are so many people excited about, we're going to go to this. It's not Chinese-owned. It's Chinese-owned. If it's an app that you can get on and be annoying, it's Chinese. TikTok is. If it's a bad preachy singer, they're from Canada. Like Elena Spurs. Dana, you're so mean. Okay, so someone was, sorry, I don't mean to, like, give you whiplash, but apparently some singer, I don't know the singer, a listener named Adrian was like, well, the third one is Peter Forrest, the original singer for 24-7 Spies with a Z. I think he's, for him, so that's his third? I don't know that guy, so he doesn't count for me. Yeah. Doesn't count for us, I don't think. So the third slot of death is still open. If you've got a death pool going with Bob Uecker and now, sadly, David Lynch. But back to the red note thing. Why are people so hell-bent on getting on it? Why do they have to have a substitute for TikTok? Why can't you just, you know, exist? Yeah. People are freaking out. Yeah. They're freaking out. You're making money off of something that somebody else owns. You can't make money unless you have someone else's product. That's weird to me. Because you're not self-sufficient. As much as these people pretend they are, they're not.
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Watching these Gen Z girls kind of freak out on TikTok in the last few days because I am on it is pretty fun to watch. How much are they freaking out? Oh, my gosh. Screaming at Supreme Court justices on their feet. It's insane.
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Wow. Wow. Yeah, that's something else. That is something else. Yeah, I don't know. I could never.
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I thought we went down this road legally like a year ago or something.
SPEAKER 24 :
Yeah, well, this is... Well, it had to go through the courts. It's one of those things that was like working its... Yeah, it was working its way through the courts. But, I mean, it could be... That would be amazing, actually. I get weird when the government defends... Or when the government wants to come in and deplatform or shut stuff down. But... I don't know. This is not like just an app. It's a great psyop. It's very Sun Tzu to have an app that can be used by partisans and bots to drive division. And then you, because of your algorithm, amplify only the worst and most divisive, hateful stuff purposefully. That's a great way to destabilize. It's a long game, but it's a great game because you don't have to expend the resources or the lives without firing a single shot. So I think if you look at it more through a NATSEC lens, I think that kind of makes some sense. But that's one of the things that the Supreme Court does. is going to have to make the you know determine so we'll see but uh yeah it's called red i'm not gonna get on it i'm not getting on it you're not you're not on it you're not even you're not on tiktok game right yeah i've never been on tiktok juan you're not on tiktok are you nope i i don't know why i even asked juan's like that's communist and i'm not a part of it
SPEAKER 12 :
my youngest son is on it he's not getting on that commie trash he says he agrees with he's still on it because a lot of his friends are on it and they share a lot of you know that content but he's he agrees he's like it's completely useless what was the thing before tick tock that everybody was on vine that's right vine i was on vine but i haven't used it for like 10 years it's been a while I mean, that short video idea, that's the meme video. That's where that all was born, I guess.
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I don't know. But I just, I'm not on it. I'm not going to get on it. Coming up, did you guys hear about the story of the cartoonist over at the Washington Post who drew some of the really most ignorant cartoons? He got arrested because he had child prawn. He was in possession of, yeah. Gross. We're going to we have to touch on that because, of course, he of course, he attacked Republicans and conservatives and defended the trans Tifa. Oh, God, he did. So we're going to get into all of that. We get the latest with wildfires, the a lot of movements. So the AG of Florida is going to. Ashley Moody is taking over Marco Rubio's Senate seat. And James Uthmeyer is going to be the AG of Florida. Both great picks. Great, great picks. What does living better mean to you? Is it more money? A bigger house? Now think about this. What about how you feel physically every day? Life is so much better when you feel good. When you wake up feeling great, you can do more of the things that you love and you're ready to take on the day. If pain is affecting your life, see how Relief Factor can help change that. Relief Factor is a 100% drug-free daily supplement that helps your body fight pain naturally. Developed by doctors, Relief Factor supports your body's response to inflammation. And it doesn't just mask pain for a short time, it helps to reduce or even eliminate it. and it's safe to take daily. In fact, the longer you take Relief Factor, the more effective it is. Over 1 million people have turned to Relief Factor. Feel better every day, and you'll live better every day. Trying Relief Factor is easy. Get their three-week quick start for only $19.95. That's less than a dollar a day. Call 1-800-4-RELIEF. That's 1-800-4-RELIEF, or visit relieffactor.com.
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It's his life mission to make bad decisions.
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It's time for Florida Man.
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This is funny. A Florida man who built a it's called a spite house. And there are tons of these around the country. He built the spite house that towers over his neighbors and he's loving it. So it's this real skinny, narrow house. And he was apparently fighting with everybody else on the street. It's like the skinniest little lot you could ever see. The developer refused to sell the awkwardly sized lot to persistent neighbors. And he's 51 years old. He purchased it. This strip of land is six hundred nineteen thousand dollars. It's a strip of land. Strip.
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690.
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That's just the land. And the neighbors were really trying to buy it. He was refusing. And now he built this little skinny house. It's what is called the skinny house. It has two bedrooms. I don't know why we're showing this because this has nothing to do with this guy. But... juan throws up like a random florida thug ready for the next one i love it the guy the guy who got the property uh i can't for the land at 690 000 so now it holds two bedrooms two and a half baths it is literally as wide as like a single car garage right And you see the strip of land. So Juan's showing it to you on the side over here. And you can see the pool is another neighbor. The two pools are other neighbors. Either side of that white fence is his strip. And that little strip of $619,000 just for the land. So he wanted a 15-foot wide home. City officials wouldn't do it. So he scaled it down to 10 feet in width. And it's 19 feet tall. And it literally cast shadows over the neighbors that had fought the construction of it. He says he loves his house. They did a really nice job. I got to say, like, I wasn't quite sure. The yard is like just garbage. It's just like a little postage stamp. But, you know, he was actually able to make it work. So good for him. He he persevered. A Florida cop detains a man for wearing a mask in public while exercising. And OK, now we can throw it up. This is I he's who exercises dress like this. Yeah. So they were like, OK, stop it. It's not COVID epidemic anymore. Quit. Put the pull the mask down. Stick with us. We've got more in store short on this segment, but we have a whole other hour next. Our partners over at Patriot Mobile, the only Christian conservative cell phone service in the country. Look, if you haven't switched to Patriot Mobile because you love paying a lot more money for your. subpar cell phone service. I mean, that's your preference. If you haven't switched to Patriot Mobile because you love supporting DEI every time you pay your cell phone bill, I mean, that's also a personal preference. I mean, I don't know why you would, but it's like the easiest thing to do is to switch. The people from Patriot Mobile practically come to your home or office and do it for you. I mean, they don't, but I imagine that they would. Right now, you can get a free month of service with promo code Dana. You're getting the best coverage you can trust. They operate on all three major networks. You stay connected wherever you go. Seamless switching with their 100% U.S.-based customer service team. Keep your number. Keep your phone. Upgrade. I mean, it's whatever you want to do. It's never been simpler to switch. So visit PatriotMobile.com slash Dana. Make your money support your values and not work against you. Or call 972-PATRIOT. Get that free month of service with promo code Dana. Switch to Patriot Mobile today. That's PatriotMobile.com slash Dana. 972-PATRIOT.
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I want to be clear. We're not waiting until those fires are over to start helping the victims. We're getting them help right now, as you all know. People impacted by these fires are going to receive one-time payment of $770, one-time payment, so they can quickly purchase things like water, baby formula, and prescriptions. So far, nearly 6,000 survivors have registered to do just that. And $5.1 million has gone out.
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$770.
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There's memes about this now. $770, a one-time payment. How much did... That's $70 more, isn't it, than what the people in North Carolina got?
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Oh, you mean in Hawaii, I think?
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In Hawaii.
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Yeah.
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Yeah, they get a one-time payment of $770, one time. And then... You had Kamala Harris say, I'm sorry, I'm reading this quote. Quote, see if this makes sense to you. It's critically important that to the extent that you can find anything that gives you an ability to be patient in this extremely dangerous and unprecedented crisis that you do. I read it verbatim. That's verbatim. Be the bigger person, Dana. Welcome back. Top of our third hour, Dana Lash with you. Chats at Rumble. You can listen coast to coast. Subscribe over at Substack. He gave $500 million to Ukraine. Not even a week ago.
SPEAKER 12 :
And that wasn't even a one-time payment.
SPEAKER 24 :
Yeah, that's not even a one-time payment. Here, you get $500 billion, Ukraine. You get $770. That doesn't even handle a portion of your property taxes if you're California.
SPEAKER 12 :
How do you come up with that number, though?
SPEAKER 24 :
You take your hand. And you stick it behind you all the way down in your pants, and you pull out whatever, and that's what happens. All right. That's where that number came from.
SPEAKER 12 :
Had no clue.
SPEAKER 24 :
Pulled it right out of the crevasse. That's where he got it, Kane.
SPEAKER 12 :
Emphasis on, I get it.
SPEAKER 24 :
So I don't know. Maybe maybe it would be great if they said we should cut taxes in California while everybody gets on their feet. But it's not going to happen. Not going to happen. Not going to happen. So, well, I mean, one hundred seventy five billion since twenty twenty two. It's like thousands of dollars per resident in Ukraine. I'm employing some girl math here. Yeah, that's like several thousand dollars per Ukrainian.
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$770.
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I'm not saying give money away. I mean, I'm very Davy Crockett about this. You know, it's not yours to give. But at the same time, these people paid a lot of money in taxes, and what are they getting out of it? Not a thing. So one of the things... that I had a couple of... We've talked about the ceasefire. We were talking about some of the cabinet appointments. I think most of that for the... I think most of that is pretty much settled. I think I would be shocked if there wasn't anyone at this point who wasn't confirmed. Like I said, Pete Hegseth was the one that I think they were going to fight the most on. And now it doesn't really seem like that's... I don't think that that's going to be an issue for them. Now... That being said, they really got over their skis and it backfired on them spectacularly. The same stuff that they were doing throughout the campaign, they decided to do during the confirmation hearings. And it just turns people off. Now there are moderate senators coming out and they're like, yeah, we think we're going to vote for Hegseth. That maybe if Democrats had played their hand differently, maybe it would have been different. But they overplayed their hand to the nth degree. So you can't be shocked. This isn't shocking. So the Washington Post, this is the other thing I wanted to talk about. They had a cartoonist who got arrested because he's a child pervert. This dude, his name is Darren Bell, D-A-R-R-I-N. He's won a Pulitzer Prize. He's a real jerk. I mean, he's. He's drawn stuff like going after Trump, going after conservatives, going after Republicans, not in a nice way either. I mean, I'm trying to just like trying to figure out the best way to put it. He's just the stuff that he draws is just crude. And I gave you guys there's one example that's in because he's on X. And he was basically saying that Republicans were groomers and parents are groomers and all this stuff. And he's done cartoons where he's called people who voted for Trump terrorists, things like that. So it's no surprise that the guy who's on staff at The Washington Post is arrested for having child prawn on his computer, which is I think these people should be put to death. I think if you're a child and I don't I don't buy the capital L, you know, argument that I hear from some people about these pedophiles. where it's like oh well they just had videos on there they didn't hurt anyone no they they are you stupid they absolutely did there are kids that are that this guy creates a revenue stream for the people who make this horrid stuff so yes he's culpable i'll put all of them to death pedophiles should be immediately put to death Go ahead. Give him his little trial. Make it fast. You arrest him. You find it on their computer. I mean, come on. He's downloaded this stuff. He is part of the revenue stream that keeps these these groomers doing this. Yes. Have his trial the next day. The next day, put him to death. I don't think Darren Bell, Darren Bell's this this crime of child pornography is you are incompatible with life on Earth. He shouldn't be housed in a prison paid for by taxpayers. Get rid of him. Just my thought on it. Capital punishment for pedophiles. Rapists and pedophiles, capital punishment. Like, boom. No appeals. Go. I'm done with it. This is horrific. And this guy, like, he had a cartoon of Trump groping Lady Liberty. I mean, the stuff that he has is super sexual in nature. It's weird. Like, the cartoons that he writes... are very sexualized. The cartoons that he draws are very sexualized. Super far left. Yeah, and he's got, I mean, possession of child pornography. So now Darren Bell is in prison. He's held on $1 million bond right now. And over at the Washington Post, he drew a picture of an ICE agent about to stab a child in the neck. Yeah, that's how. So he's been arrested. Sacramento Valley Internet Crimes Against Children detectives conducted an investigation. I'm reading their statement. They got a tip from the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children. He had it on his computer and apparently he uploaded. He had 18 files. And they said that a total of 134 videos they found that he owned. Was he? I'm curious. Did he help make it? The videos? Good question. So this is horrible. So now he's in prison. Washington Post. Great job, Washington Post. What's their slogan? Democracy dies in darkness or something like that? Yeah. So you know how the media likes to do guilt by association? You can totally do that here. Yep. Dems the rules, Cain. That's right. So, this pederast, the pederast post. Maybe we should just call him that instead. The pederast post. With this guy. Just horrible. They had a... All these staffers, they have a decline... because of this, the layoffs, they had reporters leave for other outlets. I think some people are mad about Bezos owning it. They put together this like little petition signed by 400 employees where they wanted to meet with Bezos and they want to expand and they want him to step in. Basically, they want more money is what this is meaning. Washington Post wants more cash. And they debuted a new mission statement. So it was democracy dies in darkness. Now it's riveting storytelling for all of America. No joke. What does that have to do? It should be just the facts. That's what your mantra should be. Just the facts. That's it. Not riveting storytelling for all of America. They just changed their slogan like three years ago or four years ago. Now they're changing it again. Maybe everyone will forget that they had a pedophile cartoonist on staff who won awards for his work with the Washington Post. Maybe by changing this, people will forget. You think that'll work? Yeah, I don't think so. I don't think that that's necessarily, I don't think that that's going to be the thing that does it. The media, I really don't think that the media, legacy media, and we've been saying this forever, doesn't have the influence that it used to. And I don't think that it has the reach that it used to have. And I think that includes some cable news stuff as well. I don't think that they all have the reach that they used to have. Even back during the Tea Party days, and that was some time ago, they don't have that reach anymore. And Musk has been saying something that Andrew Breitbart said like 15 years ago, like you are the media now, the citizen journalist and Musk is saying it too. That's true. And it goes only so far as these entities don't have all of these suppressive algorithms cracking down on you. We're going to talk next week. We're going to have on Andrew Bailey, who's the AG of Missouri. He did something very interesting. He, I'm going to bring, I'm going to bring up his statement on it. He's filed suit because, you know, he's trying to do as much as he can in his position as a G to take up slack, I guess, for lack of representation or action from the current administration. And he had said that he's issuing a rule requiring big tech to guarantee algorithmic choice for social media users. Americans should control the content they consume on social media, not big tech oligarchs. Let the best algorithm win. He adds that social media companies are supposed to provide a space where users can share views, content and ideas like facilitating, right? He goes, instead, they've manipulated consumer social media feeds for their own purposes, exercised monopoly control over content moderation. He's invoking his authority, he writes, under consumer protection law to ensure big tech companies are transparent about the algorithms that they use and offer consumers the option to select alternatives. And he says, with this rule, Missouri becomes the first state in the nation to enshrine transparency and accountability for big tech into law at this scale. And he goes, big tech companies... who run afoul of this regulation will be held accountable. And Elon Musk responded to it and said, good idea. He said that There should not be any selection chosen by default and any option should not favor their content moderator over those of third parties. He has some rules here. That's actually a very this is a very interesting move because this is, you know, following all of this debate about Section 230 of the Communications Act, Federal Communications Act. So this is an interesting move. Because it establishes immediately that they are not merely facilitators of discussion. They are active in editorializing by way of algorithm. Algorithm is a form of editing. And there have already been Supreme Court cases that are saying that if you're simply a facilitator, you are not responsible so long as you're doing everything you can with regards to terms of service. You're a facilitator. In fact, it was a Wolf of Wall Street in an old, like message board, like back in the nineties that, that formulated that case. So he's, he's basically forcing them to redefine. Now, if they've, if they're forced to define who they are within the state of Missouri for operation, then that sets a precedent. And, for a future two 35 because you cannot be an editorializing entity and not follow the same rules that newspapers follow and news organizations, et cetera, et cetera. So this is a very, and this is a 40 chest move. It's very interesting. We're going to be talking to him next week about this. We got to move though. We've got headlines coming up. and our partners for the program, new to the show. They're Preborn. 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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
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So apparently in the UK, there is a highly organized theft gang and they are stealing portable toilets. They sold $10,000 of them in an overnight raid. Why would you need that of all the things to steal? And it's easy to steal. I guess they're all grouped up together usually. So they police are baffled. And apparently some like they stole gas and piping and some other stuff. This company called Andy lose. Andy lose. They've been in the portable toilet business for over 30 years. They had like 10 that all their stuff was taken. So they're trying to. That's just a weird thing. I've never heard anybody stealing that before. Jay Leno brought his own fire truck to serve food to first responders that are battling the L.A. fires. He said it was unbelievable. That's really nice of him. He seems like a really nice guy. My kids have this joke where they say he sends rats to everyone. I know that's not true, but it's it's funny, you know, the way they impersonate him. But yeah, he's 74 years old. He's been driving to relief sites in his own fire truck to feed. It's an old vintage, like antique fire truck. So it can't actually fight fires. But he's been providing people with food. He goes to all these different sites and he gives all the volunteers food. So that's super nice for Jay Leno to do that. Let's see this. Oh, JP Morgan posts annual record record annual profits as U.S. major banks thrive in the final quarter of twenty four. What? A Michigan boy, 12, drives nearly 100 miles in a stolen SUV. And he had a shotgun and he also had some marijuana. What he doesn't have, apparently, are parents. Thank you. Where are they at? Like, how's your kid doing this? And you don't know. A driver angry over high beam headlights was arrested because he rammed the car that beamed him. Sometimes people forget, you know, show a little grace. My friend Josh Hammer, who is the editor at large at Newsweek, joins us on his new book and this Hamas deal. Stick with us. It's our friends over at All Family Pharmacy. This is such a great service. You need to memorize the website. They make it so easy. All Family Pharmacy. Help my family out a lot over Thanksgiving because, you know, right on Thanksgiving when offices are closed and you end up getting sick, it's just it's a mess and you got to get medicine. All family pharmacy made it super easy. And you can visit all family pharma dot com slash Dana. Use code Dana and you'll get 10 percent off of your entire order. So this is affordable access, easy and cost effective for medicine. You don't have to break the bank to access medicine. these medicines. There's no red tape. There's no hassle. Everything's made in the USA. You're not getting Chinese antibiotics. It's not how that's working. They got a proven track record. And you work with their doctors. Their doctors get you the medication that you need. Fast delivery right to your door. You can even overnight stuff if needed. And you can rely on all family pharmacy to keep your health needs on track. If you need antibiotics, if you need things like hydroxychloroquine or ivermectin, which is actually a good antiviral, you can get those at All Family Pharmacy. Visit allfamilypharma.com slash Dana. Get 10% off using code Dana. 10% off your purchase using code Dana10. It's Dana10 for 10% off of your entire order only at allfamilypharma.com slash Dana.
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for you holding us to account. Being on the receiving end, sometimes that's not always the most comfortable thing, not always the most enjoyable thing, but it is the most necessary thing in our democracy.
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So I'm happy to address questions. I'm happy to address questions when we get a chance. Thank you. I'm happy to address your questions when we get to questions. Thank you. I look forward to taking questions when I get a chance to finish my statement.
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Thank you.
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The way that they pulled this guy out of his little cubby, it's like pulling a toddler out of the ball pit at Chuck E. Cheese. Like this guy did not want to go. And they were they're wrestling with him. They're trying to pull him out. And he just is like dead arm in it. He's not going to go quietly. That was I mean. It's an anti-Semitic heckler who's disrupting. His dispute goes far beyond just the policies of Netanyahu. And that's what a lot of these protesters are like. Welcome back to the program. Dana Lash with you. We're at the bottom of this third hour. Joining me on this issue, and he also has a new book that's coming out. Well, it's kind of March, but you can preorder it now. And I suggest you do. My friend Josh Hammer, who is senior editor at large at Newsweek, his new book, Israel and Civilization, the fate of the Jewish nation and the destiny of the West. That's a great book cover, by the way. That's like Renaissance fancy. That's like one of the nicest book covers I've ever seen. Josh, it's good to be with you. I think this is the first time you've been first or second time you've been on with me. So it's nice to have you. Good to see you. And congrats on the book.
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Dana, it's great to join you, and thank you so much for your extraordinarily kind blurb of the book. By the way, you're the first person who I think has said this is the greatest book cover you've probably ever seen, so I'll be sure to take that to the publisher. They will be very happy to hear that.
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Excellent. Excellent. I'm so thrilled with that. I wanted to get – because you were talking about this, too, and I want to get to the book that actually all dovetails into this. This – I don't want to say deal this temporary whatever it is that they've announced with Israel and Hamas this this hostage exchange. And a lot of people there doesn't seem to be any gray area. It's either people are excited about it or they don't like this deal. And there's it seems like it's the deal from May. And I don't I'm just I would be shocked if Hamas honored any part of it. What is your take on this?
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Dana, it's a bad deal. I mean, there's no point in sugarcoating it. I mean, there's no point in trying to put lipstick on a pig or anything like that there. I mean, it's maybe very slightly different than the Biden-Tony Blinken framework back in May there insofar as the IDF does not have to completely withdraw in quote-unquote phase one. But I still when you look at the numbers here, Israel is still getting back 33 hostages. By the way, we have no idea how many of those 33 are dead or alive. We literally could get like 20 of them in body bags.
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There's no way to refine the language to say like either live like living or bodies.
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Yep, they absolutely did do that. And in exchange for that, 33 dead or alive, Israel is gonna give up about 3,000 jihadists, literally 3,000. I mean, what an astounding ratio. And by the way, of that 3,000, 1,000 have been arrested since October 7, 2023. 250 of them are serving life terms in Israeli prisons for being among the worst of the worst jihadists out there. Dana, it's worth kind of going back a little bit here. So back in 2011, there was the international infamous prisoner swap for Gilad Shalit. He was a lone Israeli soldier who was patrolling the Gaza border. He was taken captured by Hamas. This was kind of in the earlier days of Hamas' tyrannical rule in Gaza. And the pressure on Netanyahu back then, 13, if I guess 14 years ago now, was overwhelming. And Israel ended up giving over 1,000 Palestinian Arab terrorists to get this one soldier back. Among those terrorists that Israel gave in 2011 for Gilad Shalit was a young terrorist by the name of Yahya Sinwar, who of course would become the mastermind of October 7, 2023. So, Dana, to me sitting here, I have to ask at what cost, at what cost to get the hostages back, even if you're giving up maybe 20, 30, God forbid, EISN wars. It's a very, very, very bad deal, I think.
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And it's also I mean, this is even a U.S. national security issue, considering the number of troops, the number of Americans that have been targeted by these that they that they populate these, whether it's Hamas, whether it's Hezbollah. We're talking with our friend Josh Hammer touching on this weird deal. They said that it wasn't going to go through now. I guess it's back on the deal.
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So it looks like as of like an hour or two ago that the deal is back on. I'll be honest with you. I was kind of hoping that the deal was going to be scuttled. I mean, whether it was Hamas pulling out or Israel, I actually was rooting for this thing to go down in flames. But as of now, it looks like it's back on the table. Yeah.
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And there's seven Americans, but only three living. So and I don't even think they're on the table for the trade.
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And that's actually one of the more peculiar parts of this, right? Because if the Trump and Biden administrations are both pushing so hard for this deal, wouldn't you at least make sure that you're prioritizing the retrieval of Americans? I mean, that part to me just doesn't make sense whatsoever. It seems like there was no concerted effort made. But speaking from a distinctly American perspective here, Dana, I wanna make one additional point as well. What you're doing when you do deals like this is you are incentivizing the worst actors in the world, jihadists and so forth, to go ahead and seize your civilians. That's not just an Israeli problem. That is absolutely an American problem as well. So the same way that the Trump administration is very clear-eyed on the issue of the ICC, the International Criminal Court, they're going to put crippling sanctions on the ICC. God willing, come next week because of the arrest warrant that they put out for Netanyahu and his former defense minister, Yoav Ghosn. The same way that Trump is clear-eyed on the ICC issue because he correctly sees Israel as being the canary in the coal mine for potential ICC arrest warrants and sanctions versus the Americans. The same way that they are clear-eyed on that, I wish that they were equally clear-eyed on this notion of incentivizing jihadists to go ahead and capture our own civilians.
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Yeah, it's not like they're going to go and get a job in like McDonald's. They're going to go back into the terror networks. That's what they always do that because these from what I understand, a lot of the prisoners that are that Israel has, these are repeat offenders. I mean, the recidivism rate for a terrorist is 100 percent. It's not going to change these. They haven't seen the light while they've been in captivity because they're terrorists.
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Yeah, it kind of reminds me of this new guy in Syria, Al Jalani, who, you know, a lot of people in the Western media, they're kind of fading him and saying, oh, my God, you know, he sounds like he's on the Harvard faculty lounge. He's speaking about DEI and diversity and religious pluralism and all that. I mean, dude was a member of ISIS. He was a member of Al Qaeda. I mean, when you go down the rabbit hole of radical Islamic jihad, you're in that rabbit hole. I mean, to be clear, there are some very rare examples. Right. But but those are very, very few information. to be able to extricate yourself when you go down that utterly depraved abyss. So these people that they're freeing in this deal, assuming that the deal is still on, which looks like it is there. Yeah, I mean, probably what, 99% of them are gonna continue to be horrific jihadists for Hamas back in Gaza once they're free, it's terrible.
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It's terrible. We're talking with our friend Josh Hammer with Newsweek. He's got a new book out. He also hosts his own podcast. He has his own show as well. And you can follow him over at Josh underscore Hammer on X. I've got to get used to saying X and not Twitter. From what I understand, it would be temporary ceasefire, which I'm sure Hamas is promptly going to break, just like they have done in 2003 and 2004. And they did like 11,000 times in 2014. They're going to promptly break it. They're going to have all of these new terrorists. But the one thing that I understand, they don't want a permanent agreement unless they get to retain control of the land that Israel unilaterally withdrew from and gave them like a fully furnished home. They want control of it, which I don't know how anyone in this civilized world can look at what has happened since they were elected into power by Gazans and say, yeah, that's a good idea. Let's keep them there. I can't imagine the Trump administration agreeing to back or or even Netanyahu agreeing to anything like that.
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Yeah, so it's probably worth just kind of going back over the recent history of Gaza, right? So this is actually a good time to mention my book again because it's all in my book as well, Israel and Civilization, the Fate of the Jewish Nation, the Destiny of the West. It's all right there in Chapter 6, I believe. So Israel withdraws from Gaza in 2005. So there promptly ensues a very bloody, vicious Palestinian-Arab civil war. They're literally throwing each other off of rooftops. Hamas takes power two years later in 2007. From 2007, Dana, to October 7, 2023, that was a two state solution. The people that are now chanting from the river to the sea, Palestine shall be free. They're saying, get Israel out of the West Bank, aka Judea and Samaria, get them out of Gaza. Well, they're not really in Gaza right now. But I mean, they had their two state solution. Literally, the culmination of the last iteration of the two state solution was the pogrom on October 7. That is what the so called two state solution looks like in practice. And it was not that Pete had said that Marco Rubio, I forgot exactly what he said. I think it was Marco Rubio at his confirmation hearing just yesterday. But he said that no civilized country in the world can possibly live with these barbaric human beings sitting at their border. I mean, think about what would happen, Dana, if the Mexican cartels were to do that on an equivalent level and magnitude there in South Texas, on the Rio Grande, on the high Sonoran Desert in Arizona. I mean, 1,200 Israelis killed. Israel's a fraction of the size of the United States. That's translated to like 45,000 to 50,000 Americans based on some quick back of the envelope map there. Could you imagine if the Sinaloa cartel just started chopping off Arizonans in Texas? I mean, what the heck would we do? We would be in northern Mexico until they were gone. We would be there indefinitely if need be.
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Yeah, that's a great point. That's a very good point. And we would have every right to because we're protecting our own. We're protecting not just our sovereignty, but the lives of our citizens, which is why I'm like amazed, you know, when I read some of these media accounts and they get it from, you know, some whatever ministry of whatever in Gaza. That's Hamas. Like they run every single aspect like the CCP does in China. They run absolutely everything, even the messaging from the hospitals, which is why they'd like to wildly inflate their casualties from the conflict that they cause. Last quick question on this. This deal, who's responsible for it? Who who got it? Who got it this far? Because Netanyahu only mentioned Trump in a post on X. And Karine Jean-Pierre said yesterday, oh, it was Biden. Biden did it.
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So it's probably a little bit of column A, a little bit of column B. But if we're being very candid here, it seems like Steve Witkoff really is the number one guy who got this deal across the table. So Steve Witkoff is Donald Trump's incoming Middle East special envoy. He's basically playing Jared Kushner this time around. It was a Kushner.
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steve whitcoff was the guy who got this deal done and is not to know whitcoff was the guy at the at the podium right when trump kind of stepped in and was like now look i don't want to undermine your negotiations but all hell's gonna break loose if these hostages that's okay just so everybody knows that steve whitcoff
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Yeah, exactly. And Wyckoff was also on television, I think it was on Fox News the other night, saying God bless the Qataris for the work that they've done as part of this negotiation. I can't bring myself to say God bless the Qataris. I wouldn't go that far. Yeah, that seems a little extreme for my taste. Look, I think the hope is that despite this deal, that when Hamas inevitably breaches it, as you correctly say that they will, that Israel just goes back in and finishes the job. I think what's actually going on here, Dana, if we're being very honest, I think Donald Trump wants to come in inauguration day on Monday with a hostage freeing optic moment. He wants a Ronald Reagan 1980 moment. Jimmy Carter had the hostage crisis in Tehran. Ronald Reagan comes in day one 1980, all the hostages are freed. I think that's the kind of optical thing that Donald Trump wants to begin his second term in office. It's a pretty good photo op frankly, I don't blame him. I just kind of ask him, at what cost. But as long as the IDF is able to ultimately go back in and finish the job, because let's be very clear, if the IDF does not finish the job against Hamas in Gaza, Israel will have lost this war. That was their war aim, and they have to achieve that war aim. So as long as they can do that, then this deal, as much as it stinks, I think is ultimately tolerable. I don't like it, but if the IDF can go back in and get the job done, it's probably tolerable. Again, I don't like it, but that's probably the nicest thing I can possibly say.
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And I think to your point, the change in the administration coming up next week is going to make it a little bit easier for them in terms of the tenor and the pressure internationally. Because it seems like, you know, we got a new administration and everyone's kind of, you know, putting themselves on different footing to accommodate that. So that's going to go in IDF support for that. Yeah. That'll be something to watch. Josh Hammer, congrats on the book again, Israel and Civilization, the Fate of the Jewish Nation and the Destiny of the West. We'll have you back on as it gets closer to launch because I know it comes out in March. Pre-orders are out there now. Amazon, Books a Million, Barnes & Noble. But congrats and I appreciate all that you do. Thanks, my friend. Good to talk with you.
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And I really appreciate it. Thank you so much.
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Take care.
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During Marco Rubio's hearing, he said something that really should send chills down everyone's spine. Audio some by 23. He was as secretary of state as a nominee. He's talking about China. Listen to this.
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If we stay on the road we're on right now, in less than 10 years, virtually everything that matters to us in life will depend on whether China will allow us to have it or not. Everything from the blood pressure medicine we take to what movies we get to watch and everything in between, we will depend on China for it. They have come to dominate the critical mineral industry supplies throughout the world. Everywhere in the world they've now established critical mineral rights. Even those who want to see more electric cars, no matter where you make them, those batteries are almost entirely dependent on the ability of the Chinese and the willingness of the Chinese Communist Party to produce it and export it to you. So if we don't change course, We are going to live in a world where much of what matters to us on a daily basis, from our security to our health, will be dependent on whether the Chinese allow us to have it or not. That's an unacceptable outcome.
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And it's not just him who's issuing this morning. The nominee for Treasury Secretary, Scott Besant. Listen to this. Audio soundbite 29.
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about the legislation that was written in this room that was the biggest transformation on clean energy in American history. That is our package that basically said the tax code as it relates to energy is a broken down mess. And we basically said we're going to have a technology neutral system. The more you reduce carbon, the bigger your tax savings. Now there is a big effort in the Trump administration to reverse it. I think that's going to be bad for the economy, but it is going to be damn good for China because we are in an arms race on clean energy with them. Are you going to be on the side of people who want to unravel this?
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Senator Wyden, just so we can frame this for everyone in the room, China will build 100 new coal plants this year. There is not a clean energy race. There is an energy race.
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It's not a clean energy race. It's an energy race. They get it. Today in Stupidity, Cain, what's we got?
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Oh, boy. Our old Treasury Secretary, Janet Yellen.
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Oh, yeah.
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She should have done more yelling now that I think about it. She says that, hey, things are good, guys. Check it out. Listen.
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Now, when I look at the data, what it tells me is that wages also increased. And according to our calculations, the typical wage earner is able to afford now the same basket of goods and services as back before the pandemic. Oh, my gosh. With $1,600 left over to save or spend. I don't hit women, but I understand. I understand.
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And that does it for us today, folks. Make sure you go sign up at Substack. We've got chapter and verse. That's the newsletter for the show. Lots of good stuff out there. Find us on YouTube and Facebook. Like and subscribe. We've got all those little short videos. If you have a shorter attention span, the longer ones. And, of course, you can find us all over social media. I'll be back behind the mic tomorrow. God bless. Have a great night.
Paul the Waterman sheds light on pressing water safety issues and explores the broader implications of water contamination by forever chemicals in this episode. He discusses the concerning findings of PFAS in everyday products, linking them to severe health effects such as cancer and immune system disorders. The episode features an in-depth interview with a farmer impacted by this contamination, offering insights into the turmoil and legal challenges faced in efforts to seek justice. Paul also outlines practical solutions like reverse osmosis filters to help listeners mitigate personal risk, asserting the need for immediate collective action and awareness.
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Welcome to Water Talk with Paul the Waterman, brought to you by Water Pros. Paul the Waterman is Colorado's expert on all things related to the water we use and drink in our homes. Have you ever thought about where your water actually comes from? Is it safe to drink? Is it harmful to my health, my skin, or my hair? Paul the Waterman knows water, and he has the answers. So get ready to talk to the Waterman yourself right now. Call in with your questions to talk with your host, Paul the Waterman.
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hey good afternoon everybody welcome to water talk i'm paul the water man happy new year glad to have you uh with us today uh if you'd like to call in with questions or comments i'd love to talk to you you can call us here at 303-477-5600 so what a year it has been One of the things that we've learned in the last few weeks, I've learned especially, was how extent in the dangers of the forever chemicals. PFAS, P-F-A-S, P-F-O-S, and then also Gen X chemicals. And then there was a chemical we learned about that started it all, and it was called C6. And it's polyfluoroalkali. That's a mouthful. And this was created by 3M Corporation along with DuPont. And this is something that it's a man-made chemical. It was used, you know, after World War II in the 1940s. They were found in products such as the nonstick cookware, Teflon. And we heard, you know, at the DuPont plant, there was a lady who was pregnant working in that Teflon department and, you know, had a baby, a boy, who had had multiple surgeries. And we heard, as he's an adult now, he's with his own family, he still has PFAS contamination in his body. PFAS are also in the stain-resistant fabrics and firefighting foam. So that means we have a concern here in Colorado because all the forest fires or the firefighting foam used to fight forest fires have the PFAS contamination. The PFAS are incredibly persistent in the environment. They're present everywhere in our bodies, in the grass, in the trees, the fruit, the vegetables, the animals. It's all over, and it builds up in our bodies, and it's a product that does not break down, nor does it deteriorate. So the acidity, acidic water, doesn't even break down PFAS, PFOs, or Gen X chemicals. And because they don't break down easily, that's why they're called forever. They're going to be in our environment forever. For years to come, we have contaminated soil concerns regarding PFAS. And so what's happened is biowaste. Biowaste comes from waste treatment plants. So all the human waste that's removed out of the water And then, of course, they recycled that water and give it right back to us. But all the human waste was sold or given away. You know, most of it was given away free to farms that, you know, was full of PFAS contamination. And today we're going to hear a story about a farmer in Michigan and what happened with him and surrounding farmland and testing. And here's an interesting fact about this. And, you know, during the last couple of shows when we were bringing this, you know, really to, you know, the forefront attention on how bad it was, they started, and it kind of confused me a little bit, but they started with the EPA's mandate or recommendation limitation of PFAS was one part per billion. And then if you remember, the analogy they used would be an Olympic-sized swimming pool and one drop of PFAS in an Olympic-sized swimming pool would be the contaminant of enough to one part per billion. Now... The EPA states that the minimum contamination level is four parts per trillion. Isn't that something? A part per billion, now it's down to four parts per trillion. You know, because the PFAs, PFOs, PFAs, Gen X chemicals can accumulate over time, that's where the health risk comes in. If they don't leave our body... and they can accumulate in our body and build up in our body, kidney cancer, liver cancer, thyroid cancer, testicular cancer. What if these cancer rates, especially in young people, cancer rates are increasing in young adults. What if this is from the PFAS contamination? I don't even think they begin to really take a serious look at this. The fact that two major companies, can create such a global contamination issue and still be able to manufacture products and goods is beyond me. Because we also learned that there were major civil lawsuits and settlements that those companies had to partake in based upon the damage and the waste that their product created. The National Institute of Environmental Health and Science has shown that PFAS can be found in the blood of 97% of Americans.
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97%.
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These chemicals can enter our bodies through contaminated water, food, and even air. So think about when you take a shower in the steam. See, we have three major problems in our water supply today. One is the PFAS. Two are pharmaceuticals. We learned also this year, or last year, that pharmaceuticals still are in the water supply. Once your body takes a medication and it's metabolized, or it's called a metabolic, and then you get rid of it by going to the restroom, that's in the water supply, and it stays in the water supply. So common sense, dying commodity in today's world. Hopefully not for too long, though. Let's think about this. If you can have a small contaminant measured in a part per trillion be harmful and hazardous to human health, what do you think medication could be at? I've always said it doesn't take a large number to have a contaminant issue or problem water. The National Science Foundation program director Anne Marie Scholl-Mannolter, pardon me for that, Anne, states the widespread presence of PFAS in the environment and their potential health effects are a major public health concern. A study that links PFAS exposure to various health issues, including what I just mentioned, liver damage, thyroid disease, and weakened immune system, which also means that whatever vaccines that we get, it can affect the potency of a vaccine. One of the most significant sources of PFAS exposure is drinking water contamination. And we've demonstrated in the last couple weeks that the PFAS contamination in water especially is not just a local concern, it's global. It's a globally concern. And even some people are stating, hey, stop eating seafood. PFAS is something that once it gets into the body, it could take a decade of you drinking and eating non-PFAS contaminated water and food for it to start reducing and actually leaving your body. So this is something that, you know, can we take care of it? Absolutely we can. PFAS can be removed by a point of use reverse osmosis drinking water system. PFAS can also be removed by anion resin base unit. And everything, you know, that can remove PFAS, activated carbon is one, you know, should really be supported by water softening. Soft water is the base for all. standard filtration because hard water can create havoc on water filters. The thing to also think about when we're talking about the PFAS contamination is how long it's been going on. It's generational. It's been since the mid-40s. And then you've had factories that were dumping PFAS contaminants in rivers and lakes and streams. And it's not just in the United States, and it's not just in the Midwest United States, around Minneapolis and Michigan. It's all over. And then other, you know, industrialized countries are doing the same thing, dumping it into, you know, the oceans. And so how PFAS, you know, accumulate around the world is through rain, right? Now, the other factor we have as a problem with our drinking water is the microplastics. Microplastics, so with PFAS contaminations, microplastics contamination. Microplastics are tiny, tiny particles. Plastics don't decay. They don't deteriorate. They just get smaller and smaller and smaller. There is a study done that, you know, if you're at home and you're dusting or if you're sitting in your chair and the sun is, you know, shining in the window and you ever see the dust, Particles in the sunlight, that could be full of microplastics. We could be breathing those in. We have chlorine-chloramine contamination where that's used as a disinfectant in our drinking water. So there's just several issues we really need to pay attention to. And not only us, but we need to start getting the local government to put a game plan together. We know that the federal government, the EPA, has issued standards and guidelines that local municipalities are going to have to follow by 2029. But I'm hoping that with this new administration coming in, there's going to be a realistic approach. Because how can you filter... on a major level what i mean a major level how can you take an eight inch water main with the water coming in at 60 70 gallons per minute at over you know 180 to 200 psi and as you know travel through those you know the water filtration excuse me the water treatment system through the waste treatment plant that's sent right back to your home how are you going to treat that How can that be done? Now, if water filtration media like activated carbon or anion resin isn't treated properly, then it's just not going to become useful very long. And, you know, with anion resin, which is very effective, that's a super sensitive filtration media that has to have soft water. Same with activated carbon. Activated carbon has to have soft water. Activated carbon is like a sponge. It's going to absorb all the organics. So how long will that last and then what are we going to do? But here's the bigger issue. The waste treatment plants itself with the human waste and the human waste that's contaminated with PFAS, what are we going to do with that? And how many farmlands have been contaminated with the PFAS contamination that spread to the livestock and the meat and poultry and pork that we eat? How do we know? Is the FDA going to have a label that they're going to put on poultry and chicken? Chicken, of course, poultry. Pork and beef that's going to have a PFAS contamination label? So let's start with this program that we have that we want to share with you. It's from Vice News, and it's about a farmer whose farm was contaminated by PFAS, and he got that from organic disposable waste that came from the waste treatment plants or the sewage plants. So let's go.
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All right, hold on.
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I'm trying to get him up.
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This farm has been an agrostic name for over 100 years. We went from milking cows back in the beginning history of this farm and went to raising beef cattle and got my license to sell directly to the public. You work hard for what you have and you have a legacy and you build for generations to get where you're at. This is all I've ever done. It's all I've wanted. It was all taken away from me in one swoop, a big business dumping PFAS down the drain. There's a reason that they're covering up what they do, because they knew.
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How's it going, Jason? Gianna Tavoni. Thank you for having us out here. So tell me a little bit about your family farm here.
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Right now there is 70, I think there's 71 cows out here right now. had made a great marketplace myself. Our sales have climbed 20, 30% every year for the last four or five years. We were planning on building a storefront. I was GMO free. We want to grow a safe crop. We want to raise a safe animal. We want to raise it clean. Thought we were doing everything right.
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When did this nightmare begin for you?
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The nightmare itself really started probably in November. of 2021. The government come to me and said they want to do a biosolid study. And they come in here and did a mass testing, four or 500 soil samples. And then in December of 2021, they wanted meat samples.
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Were you nervous at that point?
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Oh yeah, I was scared. Gave him the meat samples. And a month later, they notify me that, oh, we need to do a Zoom meeting with you on Thursday. And I'm like, yeah, whatever, no big deal. And when I got on a Zoom meeting, it was four people I've never met before. And the guy's like, oh, we're so sorry this is happening, blah, blah, blah. And I stopped. I'm like, what are you talking about? He goes, you don't know? And I said, no, I don't know. He goes, oh, he says, you have PFAS in your meat.
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PFAS are known as forever chemicals. They were largely introduced to the world in the 1950s by 3M, and later on, DuPont, which made Teflon.
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Teflon has a great future and its uses will be many.
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As early as the 1970s, 3M discovered that the chemicals were, quote, more toxic than anticipated. An internal document from 1981 found C8, a type of PFAS, in the blood of eight female employees. Two of them had children with birth defects. Now, there are thousands of PFAS in nearly everything we touch or consume. They're considered some of the most persistent toxic compounds in existence. They can build up in our blood and organs when ingested and have been linked to a number of serious health problems, including thyroid disease, liver damage, cancer, and fertility issues. When they were found on Grostick's land more than a year ago, Michigan regulators shut down his farm and ordered a seizure notice. He's now barred from selling his meat indefinitely.
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First time I heard about PFAS was the day that we received the seizure. How many truckers can you get on there? When it happened, we were good. We were selling the most meat we have. We have the most amount of animals we've ever had on this farm. We were at the farmer's market. We had a really good base of customers. I work at Livingston Educational Service Agency. We do preschool programs, and we sold meat to where I work, farm to table, and we were feeding it to the children. The next few months got a little difficult because I had to watch my husband start to sell pieces of the farm. He had to have an auction. It all got on display right here in front of our house for weeks, and then it was all gone. So just to watch him have to see that dream go away, it was really hard.
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We knew right away it was the bile solids, that that was the culprit of where everything was coming from. Bile solids were a great fertilizer source for us to go along with the operation.
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In the early 1990s, the EPA was looking for a way to dispose of waste from wastewater treatment plants. So it recommended using biosolids, which are essentially treated sewage from homes and businesses, as fertilizer. But nearly 30 years later, in 2018, the EPA's Office of the Inspector General admitted the agency didn't know the impact that pollutants and biosolids could have on health and the environment. Regardless, states continue to offer biosolids to farmers, in some cases for free.
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how much was going undetected to the city for many years, and of course, unfortunately, to the detriment of Mr. Grostick. The state just wasn't doing this investigation on a whim. They didn't just pick Jason Grostick out of a hat and go to his property in the farmland in Howell, Michigan and say, hey, let's see if PFAS is here. No, this was a lengthy, ongoing study.
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In 2018, Michigan did something that had never been done before in the US. It tested water across the state for PFAS.
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Michigan was testing the waters of the state to determine, are there high levels of PFAS in any of them? And if so, where is it coming from? And one of the bodies of water was the Huron River. Sure enough, the Huron River did have high levels of PFAS. So they tested upstream to figure out where it's coming from. And they determined there was a large amount coming from the Wixom wastewater treatment plant. So the state tested the various input points. and determined that the highest test, by far, by thousands of times, was Tribar.
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Tribar is an automotive supplier that makes parts for big names in the auto industry, including Ford. And did they know that they were doing that?
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I guess what I'd tell you is the law says it doesn't matter. The law says that if you didn't know, shame on you. If you did know, shame on you. But the point is, you got to know it's in your waist. If you are going to dump... toxic industrial waste into a wastewater treatment plant, you have to know what's in it.
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An internal memo obtained by Vice News shows that Tribar was using PFAS chemicals in its chrome plating plant since at least 2008, and that Tribar did not test for the chemicals. Local regulations did not require them to. So when Jason Krostek first accepted biosolids from the state of Michigan in 2010, it was contaminated with the chemicals coming out of Tribar.
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Right here, paragraph 11. The monitoring and testing data of Tribar Manufacturing's discharges shows that Tribar has violated its wastewater discharge permit.
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In August 2022, Grostic filed a lawsuit against Tribar for millions of dollars. An early estimate put soil remediation alone at more than $600 million.
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We've got grant money from the government that's buying us feed, but that still doesn't begin to cover the extra cost of doing business the way we're doing business. It gets tougher every day wanting to do it because there's no income from it. What's the last year been like for you? I tell people now it's like dying of cancer. It's there and you don't know when it's going to happen. Realistically, I don't think I have a future anymore. Nobody's ever going to buy meat for me again.
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Are you all planning for what five months from now looks like?
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No. Scares the shit out of me. It's all I've ever done. I built a reputation to sell beef and build, for lack of better terms, an empire that my kids could run. And now there's nothing. You ready, bud?
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Okay, so I want to take a quick interruption. And so one of the things that I want to share with you is clearly PFAS contamination is a concern for cancer. One of the things that, you know, the study has also linked PFAS contamination, possibly linking to brain, esophagus, and skin cancers. So... I've always talked to you guys about the National Primary Drinking Water Regulation. And what I want to focus on, on top of what we're hearing today regarding PFAS contamination, is there are three, four main contaminants that are disinfection byproducts that are used in drinking water disinfection. So that means that they add these contaminants as part of water sanitation. So when you take the fecal matter and the urine, so let's call that sewage, not to be gross, but that's what it is. When we take that out of the water, one of the contaminants is bromate. A byproduct of drinking water disinfection, increased risk of cancer. And then, you know, the maximum contamination level. This is in milligrams per liter, which is 0.010. Now, keep in mind, that, again, is another contaminant, part of the disinfection byproducts that we have to worry about, along with the PFAS contamination. Chlorite. Chlorite. A byproduct of drinking water disinfection. Anemia in infants and young children and then affects the nervous system. That's at one milligram per liter. Total trihalomethanes. That is a byproduct from drinking water. It's the chlorination, the chloramine. And then that mixed with organics create trihalomethanes. That can create liver, kidney, or central nervous system problems and increased risk of cancer. On top of the PFAS contamination. There are studies also, they're concerned that PFAS can be absorbed through the skin. PFAS, a study out of the University of Notre Dame found it elevated levels of PFAS in the fitness tracker and smartwatch bands. That was in July of 2024. Okay, let's pick it back up.
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Who do you blame in all this? I want to say I blame the government for allowing sludge to be applied to the farmland. But really, I blame corporate America the worst because they get away with anything they want. They can dump stuff down the drain, they can poison this, they can do that, and nothing ever happens to them. Mixing up the feed so the cows can eat it. It'll never be the same old, same old, bud.
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When Michigan found that Tribar was a source of PFAS contamination, they asked the company to install filters. And it worked, initially.
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So hard to get any of these guys on the phone. But Vice News spent nearly a year investigating Tribar's environmental record and found a pattern of serious violations, some of which are still happening today.
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Okay, this one, right?
SPEAKER 16 :
We spoke with more than a dozen former and current employees at Tribar. They all requested anonymity. Could you introduce yourself in a way that will maintain your anonymity? Anything you can tell us about your role at Tribar?
SPEAKER 07 :
I was in a management role with a very intricate knowledge of the inner workings.
SPEAKER 16 :
Why did you eventually decide to leave?
SPEAKER 07 :
You know, you have a moral and ethic code. You have your reputation. I wanted to leave with it intact.
SPEAKER 16 :
People just seem really terrified of speaking out. Why is that?
SPEAKER 05 :
The company has a lot of environmental and health issues inside the plants. They weren't buying the chemicals they needed to keep the line running safely. You have very toxic and hazardous chemicals that have a specific process that they need to go through. And people that were very critical to daily operations started leaving.
SPEAKER 16 :
Why is that? And what effect does that have on the operation there?
SPEAKER 05 :
At one point in time, these were two separate companies. You had Adapt Plastic Finishing and Man-Tribal Manufacturing. You know, those were privately owned by two individuals. And at some point in time, they were acquired by this private equity group called HCI.
SPEAKER 16 :
HCI Equity Partners, a Washington, D.C.-based firm, acquired Tribar in 2015. According to employees, that's when things got even worse.
SPEAKER 07 :
Obviously, with a new equity firm taking over, we noticed cost-cutting.
SPEAKER 16 :
How quickly did you notice it?
SPEAKER 07 :
Immediately.
SPEAKER 16 :
So what was the priority for them?
SPEAKER 07 :
Money. Finances.
SPEAKER 16 :
Did that priority, in some cases, impact environment, health and safety of the community?
SPEAKER 07 :
Everything. Yes, it was all money-driven.
SPEAKER 05 :
The quality of work that people were proud of doing was being compromised, and they were being asked to cut corners and do things faster and efficiently.
SPEAKER 16 :
How does that affect safety and health, really, of the community?
SPEAKER 05 :
When people are leaving and especially not being replaced with the adequate help. For example, the environmental guy, to my knowledge, never really had any experience. I mean, he was a shipping clerk before he took on this, what I would consider a major role within the company. You're creating an environment that is just a ticking time bomb.
SPEAKER 16 :
Tribar did not accept repeated interview requests. In a statement, Tribar and HCI said that they have invested more than $42 million in their facilities and equipment, including sophisticated environmental controls. They also said, quote, no one has been fired or laid off for identifying a potential issue. However, multiple sources told Vice News that they are still concerned with how the company handles PFAS chemicals.
SPEAKER 07 :
processes like the granular activated carbon system for the PFAS. The whole reason for that GAC system is for PFAS remediation.
SPEAKER 16 :
So this is a carbon filtering system that strips the PFAS out of the wastewater.
SPEAKER 07 :
Exactly. When that GAC system is running the way it's supposed to, that outcome for PFAS is non-detect. You're claiming that the GAC system catches it all, but if the GAC system is plugged, it doesn't catch it all.
SPEAKER 16 :
Why isn't the GAC system working properly to filter that?
SPEAKER 09 :
Okay, so I want to interrupt right there. So granular activated carbon was effective in removing the PFAS, as stated by the EPA. But if it's not maintained properly, it doesn't do anything. And then it could release more PFAS. It could go in reverse because it's an exhausted media. Once it becomes exhausted, it has to be disposed. And it's a hot item. It's full of contaminant. So activated carbon absolutely will work. The problem is how many gallons of water can activated carbon filter before that filter media is exhausted and no longer will function properly. That's something that that company obviously didn't think about or maintain. But then now let's go to the bigger scale. What's the municipality going to do? Activated carbon is one item that will absolutely reduce the PFAS. We'll remove it to a non-detectable level, which is great news for us. This is what we need. Now, you can use an activated carbon filtration system in your home. You absolutely can. Reverse osmosis is something that will absolutely work as well. However, hard water is a determining factor. We know in Michigan they have hard water. They have iron content. So if they weren't going through pre-filtration, if they weren't feeding that activated carbon with soft water, then that activated carbon got full and then it stopped working.
SPEAKER 16 :
And you saw that firsthand? Did you feel pressure from executives to keep the plant going when things weren't going well? What did that pressure look like?
SPEAKER 1 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 06 :
They're not making parts. They're not making money. It's all their push is to make it run, make it run, make it run.
SPEAKER 16 :
And in order to run, they got to get that wastewater out.
SPEAKER 06 :
That is correct.
SPEAKER 16 :
Doesn't Tribar have to abide by certain regulations around what levels of PFAS have to be at before water is released?
SPEAKER 06 :
They do. But conveniently, every document for the past 24 months is missing. I've seen them. I've put hands on them. Then the day the investigators come in, they're gone. Gone. Nobody knows where they are. So what do you actually do?
SPEAKER 05 :
I was approached to sign off on some documentation that had to be turned into Eagle. And I said, this isn't right. This account here is not correct. And I was told, doesn't matter, sign the document so we can turn it in. And I refused to sign until I'm not putting my name on anything that's falsified. And it was probably within a couple of weeks of that, the treatment started where it was
SPEAKER 16 :
Was there any question in your mind why they were starting to treat you that way? Tribar denies failing to properly document or respond to environmental concerns. In a statement, they said they will, quote, continue to take our responsibility as a good corporate citizen very seriously. But EGLE, Michigan's environmental agency, confirmed they have issued Tribar 15 different violations in the last year, including for missing documentation and for not keeping accurate records. EGLE did say Tribar's PFAS emissions were in compliance with state regulations in 2022. Why did you decide to do this interview?
SPEAKER 06 :
Anything we discharge potentially can get into a waterway that now leads to someone's home. And it's affecting lives long term. And there's children that are going to grow up with birth defects. There's children that are going to grow up with cancers they don't even know about right now because of PFAS. And somehow my company glosses over and says, I'll eat the fine, don't worry about it.
SPEAKER 16 :
If you lose your job over this, will it have been worth it?
SPEAKER 06 :
I'd do it any day.
SPEAKER 12 :
Mortgage bill, property taxes, membership dues for MCA, loader payment, ski loader payment, health insurance, All in grand total, on an average every month, $8,000. Basics. And if I don't start getting some money income real soon, it's not going to last much longer.
SPEAKER 14 :
The stress, it's ridiculous. It really is. Not knowing every day. I had concerns that he could have hurt himself. because he was so depressed, not knowing what was gonna happen. I worried like if he went down to do chores, if he was gonna come back. Because you hear about it all the time, farmers taking their own lives. And I asked him straight up, I said, I need to know, like, have you thought about this? Is this something on your mind? Because we have kids. And he said, no way, no way.
SPEAKER 16 :
Does your wife have good reason to worry about you?
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, I said no. I mean it.
SPEAKER 16 :
When Grostick's farm was shut down, he had already sold hundreds of pounds of meat to multiple customers.
SPEAKER 13 :
You're gonna wanna watch your step. They're really steep, they're old.
SPEAKER 09 :
Okay, so I want to add a couple things. The next segment that we're going to play, we'll talk about a customer that purchased the meat and his thoughts. And then it's going to get interesting. It's going to talk about a former employee and the contamination of residents and farmland. You know, in a recap, 3M is basically the center of the PFAS controversy. So in 2021 and 2022, 3M reported that it sold more than 20,000 products that contain PFAS in the United States. Scotchgard. It's a well-known brand of fabric and upholstery protects the fabric from, you know, water, water resistant. That's what's PFAS. Firefighting foam, as we mentioned. Industrial cleaners. Certain industrial cleaning products have used, and that's exactly what this company that manufactured, you know, chrome and automotive parts in Michigan did. That's PFAS. Electronic parts also come coated with PFAS. So that's contamination when those electronic parts are disposed of and they are put in our landfill. 3M announced in December of 2022 that it would stop making PFAS and discontinue using them in products by the end of 2025. So they're still producing them today. It's important to note that 3M has phased out products of some long-chain PFAS, such as PFOs and PFOS, and have been working on alternatives. And some of the alternatives are now already outlawed by the EPA, and those are the Gen X chemicals. So the EPA, in 2024, outlined Gen X chemicals as being harmful. And, you know, for them to be discontinued in use, you know, anything that you have water repellent for fabrics. So, you know, we have lawn furniture that has, you know, cushions in our lawn furniture. Anything that's water repellent is a PFAS. The other concerning thing is the PFAS and food packaging. And one of the things that got me was the PFAS that's in the popcorn and the microwave popcorn bags. That's that's just that's troubling. And then the plastics PFAS are in food wraps, plastic wraps. So it's a double whammy, isn't it? You got the plastic wrap that creates microplastic and inside the plastic is a PFAS coating that's water resistant to keep moisture out of the packaging. So this next segment is going to be very interesting, and one of the things that they're going to talk about is farm contamination, but you're going to listen to a lady. Her and her husband bought a Christmas tree farm. He died of liver cancer, and she's going to talk about having her blood tested for PFAS. It's very fascinating.
SPEAKER 13 :
This is what's left of the last cow. Well, there's some pig in here, too, but...
SPEAKER 16 :
So this is meat that you got from Grostick's farm?
SPEAKER 13 :
Both the pork and the beef, yes.
SPEAKER 16 :
OK.
SPEAKER 13 :
And we've been eating his meat now for seven years, I believe.
SPEAKER 16 :
So what was it like to first learn that these chemicals were in it?
SPEAKER 13 :
What would it do to me was the first question, which I never really got an answer to. The other thing was, is it going to kill us to eat it?
SPEAKER 15 :
Are you guys still eating this meat?
SPEAKER 13 :
Yes, we are.
SPEAKER 15 :
How did you make that decision?
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, at this point, we've already eaten the worst. Why stop?
SPEAKER 16 :
Do you know what the levels of PFAS are in this meat?
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, yeah, the state had just sent me, I finally got the paperwork today showing the levels. These two are this cow in here.
SPEAKER 16 :
4.02 parts per billion, is that right?
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 16 :
And so do you know what that means?
SPEAKER 13 :
No, not really.
SPEAKER 16 :
So the state sent you this, but they don't tell you what it means?
SPEAKER 13 :
No, no, basically this is what they sent me.
SPEAKER 16 :
The U.S. Food and Drug Administration and the Department of Agriculture both have not set PFAS limits in food or livestock. But the European Union has. Based on their guidance, a person eating a pound of meat from John Tischer's freezer would be exposed to about five times more than the weekly recommendation.
SPEAKER 15 :
I mean, the one thing that is clear is all this meat has PFAS in it.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 15 :
So what are you going to do?
SPEAKER 13 :
I'm not real sure what we're going to do yet. We are talking about moving to a place where we can raise a couple cows and take care of it ourselves.
SPEAKER 16 :
Grostick's case is not an isolated incident. Nationwide, about 20 million acres of U.S. cropland might be contaminated by biosolids, according to a recent estimate. But the real total is unknown, and experts say could be much higher. We're in East China, Michigan, which is right on the Canadian border. And we're here to meet a chemical engineer who worked with DuPont for more than 40 years. And since retiring, she's switched teams. She now works with environmental groups to help them understand the impact of forever chemicals.
SPEAKER 08 :
Woof, woof, woof, woof, woof, woof.
SPEAKER 03 :
I worked 42 years for DuPont. I worked the summer in 1976. That's the summer I got pregnant with my oldest and then I worked in Teflon. They thought of it as the cleanest place in the plant, best place to work. Our site was the sole supplier of Teflon for food contact until 1985. It's a great history, right?
SPEAKER 16 :
At this point. To better understand how many farms have been affected by PFAS contamination, Denise Trabek-Poynter started tracking where biosolids have been spread in Michigan. So far, she's mapped hundreds of sites.
SPEAKER 03 :
We're looking at lower Michigan right now. The red are wastewater treatment plants. Blue is where biosolids have been land applied. So I started adding things like tanneries. Paper mills are another. They use their residuals to land apply also. Over 2,100 locations likely to have PFAS. So this is Jason Grostick's farm. What do these other surrounding dots represent? These are other farms. That have used biosolids? Yes. Very highly contaminated biosolids. They used it for years. It's the same biosolids. Wow.
SPEAKER 16 :
So he's really not an outlier. Obviously, the state of Michigan has tested Grostick's farm.
SPEAKER 03 :
Have they tested other farms? As far as I know, they haven't tested any of the other farms.
SPEAKER 16 :
MPART, the Michigan PFAS Action Response Team, confirmed that they have no plans of testing other farms unless the agency's ongoing work identifies new toxic areas. So there's Jack Pine's property. Jack Pine is a pork farm in western Michigan in one of the sites tracked by Trabic Pointer. In the 1990s, they used waste coming from a leather tannery as fertilizer. More than 30 years later, testing of the farm's soil showed levels of PFOS five times higher than those found on Jason Grostick's land.
SPEAKER 03 :
PFOA and PFOS are two well-known PFAS. If you can detect it, it's too much. They know it's in the fields. They know it was in the pigs' water. They know that it was probably in some of the food that they ate, but they never tested the animals' manure or the pigs'. Way over there is some of the hog buildings. These are in operation.
SPEAKER 16 :
Because Michigan regulators didn't test the hogs from Jack Pine, they could continue selling them. The impact this has had on America's food supply is unknown. According to internal notes from Eagle, there might not be records of the animals after they were slaughtered and moved to the food chain. To date, the state has only tested animal products at Grostick's farm. That's unsurprising. Testing of any kind could show more contamination. During the 2019 National PFAS Conference, a state official admitted as much, saying that testing milk would put farmers out of business.
SPEAKER 04 :
The problem of trying to dig this up is once you dig it up, where are you going to put it? I don't even dislike Ohio that much that I'd send it there. My husband Joel and I, we bought our first home. We thought it was our dream home. It was literally surrounded by Christmas trees. It turned out that Christmas tree farm was actually a place that dumped tannery waste for years and years and years. So it got into the water, and it's contaminated 25 square miles of my community. Besides knowing what's in my water, I wanted to know what's in my blood. It costs $800 to test your blood. And I was hearing, don't worry about it. It's got minor health things. You don't need to worry. I looked at them then and said, you know, my husband just died of liver cancer. My blood came back at 5 million parts per trillion. So I have some of the highest levels of PFAS, I guess, in the world. Though I don't think it's a contest. I went in for a thyroid ultrasound. I was diagnosed with thyroid cancer that had metastasized to my lymph nodes. I had to have 23 lymph nodes removed and a thyroidectomy. And I just had my blood tested again. And now I'm down to a measly 3.5 million parts per trillion. So at this point, if I live to be 240, I am good.
SPEAKER 11 :
Life has enough worries, and then you have to go home and go, oh, wow, you can't drink the water. Is it really safe to take a shower? Is it really safe to water your dogs? Is it really safe? But what is somebody going to do? There's nothing to get out of your system. Why didn't somebody acknowledge or tell us? Because obviously they've known for a while.
SPEAKER 12 :
This field here probably has not been exposed to biosolids, I'm gonna say in probably 10 or 12 years. We no longer allowed to let our cattle be on this pasture because of this stupid PFAS in my soil. You don't get to see it, you don't smell it, you don't know it, but it's here.
SPEAKER 16 :
So you know of farmers who are still using biosolids?
SPEAKER 12 :
Yes. There's several guys that are still using it that I know of locally.
SPEAKER 16 :
I mean, knowing the risks, why are people still using it?
SPEAKER 12 :
It's free. It's free nutrients. That is $30,000 that I saved not buying commercial fertilizer.
SPEAKER 16 :
And the government's telling you it's safe? Why not? Right.
SPEAKER 12 :
I mean, the EPA is the one that said that biosolids should be applied to farmland.
SPEAKER 16 :
In 2021, Michigan became one of the first states to regulate the concentration of PFOS in biosolids. Recently proposed federal regulations regarding PFAS in drinking water will limit only six types of forever chemicals. But advocates are pushing to regulate PFAS as a class because variations of the chemicals continue to show up in water testing reports.
SPEAKER 09 :
So let's update that. There's now 147,000 known chemicals that the EPA has now recognized to be regulated as a goal to be reduced out of drinking water, and it's down to four part per trillion. So you heard the number that was in the lady's blood, the contamination of her blood. It's down for the drinking water down to four part per trillion. But the greater issue is the soil contamination and all the unknown agricultural land that's still being used now and dairy cows. Unknown PFAS contamination. It's something that we really need to look at on a grand scale. So agricultural communities could be unaware. You have dairy farms all over northern Colorado. You go northern Colorado outside of Greeley and you head east and there's dairy farms all over the place. Do we know if that land's been contaminated? And there's another issue that we have with dairy farms, right? Dairy farms can, you know, have high nitrates, and then nitrogen is another issue that can contaminate water supplies as well. So if you live on well water, you definitely, you know, need to think about your contamination is just as... equal to somebody that lives in a municipal water supply. The problem that when you're on well water, you don't know what's contaminated. You don't know what you have. It's a great idea to get tested. But now there's a problem. The state of Colorado can no longer test water because their lab had scientists or lab techs that fudge numbers. The EPA came in and shut them down only because they had no choice because the EPA was coming to reaccreditate the lab and then they had to admit that, hey, we fudged results. And now they found a second individual that was fudging results. So now the state of Colorado no longer tests water. That's sad, isn't it? So you have to go to outside agencies or companies to get your water tested. And when you do that, I definitely recommend that you take your own sample into those companies. Do not hire somebody, a third party, to collect a sample for you. You do it yourself. You don't want somebody using lab results to try to scare you into buying their water treatment equipment. That, I think, is unethical. Now, you can take your lab results and share them with somebody like us, and we'll be more than happy to go over with you the results and discuss options how to treat the contaminations that you're concerned about. So what you can do for your water is definitely do a point-of-use reverse osmosis. They mention activated carbon is absolutely another method, but you want to have a filter that's designed to handle PFAS, but also it all starts with how hard is your water. Hard water absolutely will affect the quality of those water filters, meaning the longevity, how long they will last. Hard water will eat them up. Hardness is a liquid. that as it oxidizes, it converts to a scale, and then that scale is going to build up around that filter, and then the water will not absorb or go through the filter. The filter won't absorb the water for the proper filtration. So that's something that we definitely want to think about. You know, we'll continue with this story next week. We have other stories I want to share with you. But, you know, in the few remaining minutes we have, it's just amazing to recap the problems that we have with our water supply. So we definitely have the PFAS forever chemicals. This was a bigger issue than I thought. You know, I'll share with you personally when I was listening last spring. you know, to the EPA webinar. So we had customers that contacted us from Adams County in Denver County. They received letters saying that, hey, the water tested higher than what was recommended on the PFAS contamination. However, They didn't go in in depth on what the contamination concerns were, and nor did the EPA in the webinar share with us how we got to this contamination. Did they mention 3M and did they mention DuPont? No, they didn't. They just said it was something that because of chemicals and manufacturing since World War II. But the greater story was this was a well-known contamination issue that was so what, and they kept on making and using these products. And to the point I just shared with you, they're still making these products until the end of 2025. Isn't that amazing? They're going to still use a contamination that they know is cancer-causing, and they're still going to produce products with this contaminant to 2025. Unbelievable. And we just heard the story of that lady. Can you imagine the numbers of the part per billion that she has contaminated the PFAS? And, you know, her husband dying of liver cancer, and then, you know, the surgeries that she had to have, and she still has high levels. It doesn't go away. Do we know what our PFAS levels are in ourselves? No, we don't, do we? Is this something that should we ask, you know, when we go to the doctor and they get blood work? You know, should we ask them, can we do a PFAS test on our blood to see where we're at? I think that's something that we should really think about. So remember... You know, clean water is up to us. You know, I definitely recommend, you know, give us a call at Water Pros or, you know, 303-862-5554. We definitely can help you out with, you know, PFAS mitigation, forever chemicals. We've got pharmaceuticals. That's the other issue I'm concerned about. Hormones in the water. Antibiotics in the water. Puberty blockers in the water. Then these microplastics, and microplastics become nanoplastics. It's just never-ending. So it really is up to us, isn't it, to take seriously the quality of our drinking water. And then the next step, I think we probably should be responsible. And when you ask if your medical provider can do a blood work and blood test on PFAS, I think that's the only right thing to do. Well, listen, thank you very much for joining us. I sure appreciate it. I hope you guys enjoy the rest of your day. Have a great weekend. Take care. God bless.
SPEAKER 02 :
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SPEAKER 04 :
Today on Sekulow, Karine Jean-Pierre blocks her rival from a critical final press briefing.
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SPEAKER 04 :
Hey folks, welcome to Sekulow. We are taking your calls to 1-800-684-3110. That's 1-800-684-3110. I've been traveling around, you'll see why in a second, with different inaugurations going on, seeing some ACLJ alumni be inaugurated, which is great, into big and important positions to know that we've helped along the way and trained some of those folks is great. And of course, the bigger inauguration, of course, I think everybody's ready and waiting for in Washington, D.C. on Monday and events leading up to that. We want to take your phone calls. Don't 1-800-684-3110 because these administrations that are on the way out and I think a lot of these people would have been on the way out regardless of who won this election because I can't imagine even a Harris keeping on a Karine Jean-Pierre at all I think she would have already had her own people and gone through the transition but we saw the final Karine Jean-Pierre press conference and now we're hearing that she she wanted to be all about her how many press conferences she gave how many like questions I think she answered or I don't know how many days and things like that and I talked about her personal sacrifices and talked about Biden but would not let John Kirby come in and actually provide some news which is I think important at the end of your administration the fact that this Israel Hamas deal we'll see if it's able to to actually come together it's always you know it sounds great and it looked like it was something to celebrate but it's never done until it's done and this one has multi-parts to it so even the first part is not done until it's done but she didn't want kirby coming in to even speak about that So he had to make the rounds basically on all the networks and get out. And of course, he's been very clear that the Trump negotiating team, President Trump, the incoming team, was there and also a part of these negotiations because they have to actually implement it. You know, this is going to be implemented by the president and the State Department and the people who are in the top negotiators. Remember, President Trump has negotiations. put in place a special envoy and team just for these issues out in the Middle East and to end this conflict they of course need to be a part of it because every one of these is fraught with issues never perfect and also not done until it's actually done I mean and so you've even got issues coming up today we'll talk about as well about you know will we even get to part one of this three-part deal that has been laid out before us and we'll go to Will Haynes because Will the issue it was they even though Biden had his time last night to speak to the American people It was not really even about Biden. It was about her. That was bizarre. It was about a press secretary and not wanting to even talk about one of the bigger co-accomplishments, however you want to brand it. But you'd have to say that the Trump team was also part of it. So she didn't want to do that much. And so she just said people can go on some phone call later and get info.
SPEAKER 06 :
That's right. And as you look at the end of this, it was very bizarre that typically I'll give her this. Typically, the final press briefing is kind of a chummy situation with the reporters that you've spent years with and thanking them. Not typically do you have a very large news item. that the people want to hear from the White House about, even if they're only the White House for a few more days. And instead of having the normal people that would be there for that press briefing, people from the State Department, people like John Kirby, who is the spokesman for the National Security Council, She didn't have any of them. And we're going to talk to Rick Grinnell about this in the next segment. But it was such a selfish press conference to say, even though there's something huge the American people need to know about, I'm not going to do my job on the last day. I'm just going to make this about me.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah. All right, folks. 1-800-684-3110. Let's join the broadcast. Rick Grinnell joining us next. We're going to be talking about that. We're going to be talking about the confirmation hearings and how we see those going. I will tell you this. A lot of these Democrat senators who have never gone on Fox News and have only gone on friendly news channels did not know what they'd be up against with how prepped people are who do live television and how locked in they are to conversations. I'll leave it there. We'll be right back on Sekulow with Rick Grinnell. All right, welcome back to Secular. We are joined by, again, someone who really gives us a lot of insight into all these Washingtons going on. That's Rick Grinnell. He's been a cabinet member in the intel world at the State Department. And, Rick, it's always great to have you. I know you've been covering closely to what's been happening in California and the fires there. But I want to first ask you about the press conference yesterday. the white house i mean usually these are there's not something really big to talk about i mean so a lot of times this wouldn't even be covered so heavily outside of kind of the washington media world of you know everybody you know back and forth and just kind of saying goodbye but there is something major to talk about where two teams on opposite sides of the political spectrum were able to get to a negotiated deal and assist that between Hamas and Israel. They've been clear that both the Biden negotiators and the Trump negotiators played a key role in that. Of course, the Trump team has to implement this deal, which is, you know, until it starts even being implemented, Rick, you know, is always right. You know, it could crumble at any moment. But she didn't want to talk about that, which could have been a way to kind of go out on a success campaign. from these press conferences. Instead, it was about her and she wouldn't even let John Kirby come speak.
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Yeah, look, I think there's real big trouble within the Biden administration. They don't like each other. She undercut the State Department spokesman. She acted like she didn't even know who it was. And then she said he speaks for himself. When he was speaking at the State Department podium, he complimented the Trump administration. She's barring Kirby from coming in. She thinks that she's successful in kind of creating enemies from within her team. But I can tell you that her reputation is taking a big hit. People will remember this later. And she's proven to be a disastrous candidate. spokesperson for a disastrous administration. But let me just say one other thing, Jordan, you and I have talked about this in the past, but the Trump team, we handed the Biden team peace around the world. We literally handed them peace. They created multiple wars, one in the Middle East, one in Europe. They're escalating. They're not even getting better. We're now going multiple years And it's getting worse on both accounts. I get angry that we have to dig them out of this hole because there are no good options left. And so when we come up with a measure like a peace deal that clearly Donald Trump is the reason for this peace deal, it is not a perfect deal. But it's because we have hostages that have been held for more than a year of escalating war. We are in a terrible situation because of the Biden team. We're in a hole. And so I get angry that there's critiquing of of our ideas. When the Biden team has put us into this hole, there are no good options left because of them.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, that they put everybody in a very tough spot who's coming in. And this fact that they didn't even want to acknowledge that this will have to be implemented, that this... again imperfect deal that we hope again leads to more families some families being reunited some families even you know getting the closure we don't know how many people are actually alive how many people with these names that in the first release we represent a couple of them that were on that list and there's no indication whether they're going to be returned bodies or are they going to be returned alive and will we even get to that first stage of this deal so I wanted to talk to you about that too the idea here that I mean it right now as it stands yes the Biden team is still in office and of course that's true until Monday when President Trump takes the oath and his team enters But I think what people are really seeing is when you've got these complications around the world, the Trump team wasn't just transitioning. I mean, they were having to start negotiating well before President Trump takes the oath on Monday and making decisions about these deals that are never going to be perfect, certainly when you didn't have any control of how you got to this point.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, and let's remember, we never would have been in a war in Europe in a war in the Middle East if Donald Trump had been president these last four years. That's just a fact. We delivered peace. We were having deals between the Arabs and the Israelis that were peace deals. Joe Biden delivered us war, and so now we're trying to dig out from that. But let me give a little bit of context over the last year. The Israelis have had to ignore the Biden administration and make some very tough decisions they've been able to successfully take out the leadership of Hamas and really degrade this terrorist organization. The Iranians are back on their heels. This may be the time to take a vulnerable deal, to step out and be vulnerable, is my point. Time will tell. History will show if it's the right thing. This deal is not perfect. But the reality is, We have not been put into a perfect position because of Joe Biden. And the choices are stark. And so I think the Israelis are recognizing they've been successful against Hamas. Maybe now is the time to create, you know, a measure where you take a risk and you reach out for peace.
SPEAKER 06 :
Rick, I did want to ask you real quick about the final speech from the president last night. We saw the final press briefing from Karine Jean-Pierre, but President Biden gave an Oval Office final remarks at the end of his presidency. Although we in the media and everyone have called for taking the temperature down, it seemed as if Dark Brandon returned and gave his one final shot across the bow at the incoming administration, warning of an oligarchy that's a threat to democracy. Meanwhile, it's not like they've had any shortage of billionaires propping up the Democrat Party for decades. But that as well as calling for a ban on stock trading in Congress, term limits on the Supreme Court. What did you make of this? What kind of came across as a little bizarre parting message from President Biden?
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, look, he's living in an alternative universe. There are more billionaires that support the Democrats and Kamala than that supported Donald Trump. Donald Trump has completely changed, transformed the Republican Party. into a party of the working class, first and second generation Americans, minorities. This is not the party of George Bush or Mitt Romney. This is the party of Donald Trump, and it's completely different. And I think that what you saw from Joe Biden is a real frustration. He was not happy. He was very negative. And I think it's because he's defeated his ideas. His far left ideas were defeated. He's created wars. He failed with diplomacy. We were literally evacuating embassies first. We were the first country to do it. Anthony Blinken will go down in history as the worst secretary of state. Marco Rubio is going to be a fantastic secretary of state. He understands the world very clear-eyed. He is close to President Trump. Look, we got Mike Huckabee, who's going to be the U.S. ambassador to Israel. I find the whole team coming in, Kash Patel, Pam Bondi, Tulsi, the entire team is literally focused on America and keeping America safe and prosperous. And I love it. I couldn't be more excited.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, and it seems like when you do that, Rick, it also helps your allies and your friends around the world because when we do well... they do well and when we're in a good spot they get into better spots because their enemies know that the superpower that backs them is in a place that you don't want to mess with and we've seen under the Biden administration this kind of sign of weakness inside of you know what you can push this administration around a bit you can push this country around a bit there's They tried to play it off like there was so much domestic disturbances and things like that, that what we really saw coming out of this election and even the lead up into this transition is that, you know, the American people seem pretty much pretty excited about something. just getting back to work and the basics and focusing on our country and our economy and our border and security, but also ending the conflicts around the world that have the ability to affect us and are affecting us, whether it's security wise or economically.
SPEAKER 10 :
Look, common sense won this past election. Common sense is I was going to use the term like a wildfire, but I think living in Los Angeles, that's probably too soon and inappropriate. But but the point is, is that people are really getting excited about common sense. The Democratic Party is devoid of common sense. And what we're about to see is how common sense comes roaring back with our economy, with energy, with simple diplomacy. And that's going to, I think, put the Democrats behind for the next, you know, seven, eight years. They're going to have to figure out who's their leader. Are they going to continue going woke or are they going to come back and have common sense?
SPEAKER 04 :
There's a lot of... A lot of decisions the Democrats are going to have to make. And Rick, we're excited to continue to have you on the team. You do have that special envoy position as well. And all of your insight today, I'm sure we'll need it throughout next week as well. And keep us updated on California and what's happening there and maybe some policy changes as well. We get back, folks. A good friend of ours, a former ACLJ colleague, someone I've known since I was 19 years old, a freshman in college at GW, just sworn in as West Virginia's Attorney General. He'll be joining us live. All right, welcome back to Seculo. We are taking your calls too, 1-800-684-31-Tennis. We are about to have this transfer of power, and you're almost seeing it in real time when the world doesn't stop because we say, well, on Monday we're going to have large events over the weekend, and guess what? There's still negotiations going on and peace deals and Israel and Hamas, and you bring those two teams together. It's very uniquely American, by the way, that even with – the animosity that can be felt among the political actors coming out of a campaign season like this, that when it gets to those big issues, they can work together. But what's also important, and it's truly, I said this, I've said it A number of times this weekend, actually, and this week in West Virginia for their inauguration of their executive offices. And I think their new attorney general, J.B. McCuskey, is joining us now on the broadcast. Hey, J.B., how are you doing?
SPEAKER 01 :
Jordan, it's good to see you, buddy.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, so you were inaugurated this week, and I think the day after your inauguration, maybe the day of your inauguration, the ACLU decided to file a lawsuit in West Virginia because of a school choice program and providing resources, and one of the departments providing resources to a Catholic school. I would say that, again, the Attorney General's office there has been a busy one. Before you took office, you were the state auditor for eight years. You've been on the legislative side in your home state of West Virginia and now taking on the office of Attorney General. So where is General McCuskey focusing first in his first week or two in office as you're getting settled in?
SPEAKER 01 :
So some of it's just fun in the bathroom. But, you know, we like to call West Virginia freedom's last outpost. And it is such an unbelievable honor as a lawyer to be selected by your fellow citizens to be the counsel for the people of the state of West Virginia. And we here in West Virginia believe that coal should be how we make electricity and gas should be how we make electricity. We believe in religious freedom. We believe in the Second Amendment. And we believe that Every American should be free to worship and to live their faith in the ways that our Constitution outlines is mandatory. So where is my focus? My focus is on the values of the people of West Virginia and showing the rest of the world that if you are a young family who values freedom, that this is the place where you should be moving your family and your business because there is no better place in this country to live and to raise your family.
SPEAKER 04 :
I want to tell everybody right now, one of the reasons why we've got JB on so early into just from taking the oath of office just a few days ago is because he's not only a lifelong friend, literally since I think 18 or 19 years old, but he's an ACLJ alumni, just showing you where some of our attorneys at the American Service for Law and Justice have landed who have decided to go the route of public service. JB is one of those who has, I think since I was a kid, In college, technically adults, I guess we were, JB, but you were always talking about West Virginia. It was always number one in your mind that you were going to go back to West Virginia, that you wanted to bring people into the state to see the state. You knew it could be run better. You knew that there were immense opportunities there, but that there were legal issues that needed to be handled so that it was a good place to start a business or move a business. And of course, you know, issues of governance. And so you started out with the in the legislature there. There's been a big turnaround in West Virginia from kind of an old style Democrat state to a almost entirely Republican led state at the statewide level. I guess it is entirely Republican led at the statewide level. And so, again, it's kind of, you know, pick and choose those opportunities. So as attorney general, what are your thoughts? First priorities, where do you think you can help people the most who are hurting in the state of West Virginia and probably eagerly awaiting not just the new government that they've got now in their state, but also the new federal government and administration that doesn't see them as, and their industries, I would say, JB, as the bad guys?
SPEAKER 01 :
Yeah, so we are thankfully three days away from having President Donald Trump again, which is a huge boon for freedom and for the people of West Virginia. And I am joining a team of Republican attorney generals throughout this country who are committed to working with President Trump to undo the damage that's been done over the last four years. And here specifically, that damage has been done to our natural resources industry. And, you know, in my private practice prior to becoming president, uh the state auditor i i worked in the energy industry i worked with the men and women of the coal industry i worked with the men and women of the oil and gas industry and there is no finer group of people no group of people who are more committed to american greatness than those folks um and so our number one priority is to start making electricity cheap again. We live in a country where we spend way too much of our income, especially middle and lower income families, just turning the lights on. And on top of that, we have an AI revolution that is happening in this country and in this world that is going to be powered solely by fossil fuel electricity. There is no other way to make this happen. And if we lose on AI, if we let China and Russia outpace our innovation in this way, it will be a disaster for our country long-term. And we know that the fastest, easiest way to make the electricity that's going to make America once again the technological leader for the entire world, that's gonna start and end with cheap, reliable electricity. And so it is our goal to make sure that we continue not only to support the coal and gas-fired power plants that we have online now, but to create an environment where new coal-fired and gas-fired power plants are going to be built. And I am so excited to work not just with our legislature, but with our industry leaders and with the Trump administration to make that a reality so that we can create another industrial revolution only in this way. It'll be with AI that is being powered by West Virginia Natural Resources and the men and women of our natural resources industry.
SPEAKER 06 :
Kuski, this is Will. It's great to see you. I did have a final question here. We've got a couple minutes left, but you mentioned earlier working with other Republican states' attorneys general. And I think what many people, I know our audience knows this, but many people may not even think about is how important it is, especially when there is a conservative in the White House to have states that have like-minded attorneys general that can fight what the leftist states that are going to try to fight every step of the way against the administration, to have attorneys general like yourself fighting as a state to support conservative ideals and uphold our Constitution in the United States.
SPEAKER 01 :
You can make an argument that there is no more important group of people in the American government world than attorney generals. We have the ability to swiftly and quickly not only change laws, but to get them removed as unconstitutional. We know that Congress acts slowly. We know that that is like turning the Titanic. But when you're working in the world of attorney generals, we can enter basically any jurisdiction in this country and determine that laws that are passed by leftists and people who are against the freedoms that we all enjoy are quickly struck down with the understanding that we know what the Constitution says. We are originalists. We understand what they meant and that these things go far beyond what our founding fathers wanted. Just as a great example, the state of New York just in the last month has passed a law that is going to fine natural resources companies right here in West Virginia somewhere to the tune of $750 million a year based on junk science. And we are going to stand with every one of our attorney generals as we support our trucking industries, our coal industries, and every single part of this country that is being affected by those who don't see the Constitution of the United States the same way we do.
SPEAKER 04 :
Attorney General, it was great to be with you this week. It was emotional. We're going to be putting a lot of ACLJ resources into West Virginia as well to make sure you can accomplish as much as you can in this first term as Attorney General. Thank you for joining us in your first week in office. We'll be right back, folks.
SPEAKER 05 :
Keeping you informed and engaged now more than ever. This is Sekulow.
SPEAKER 04 :
And now your host, Jordan Sekulow. All right. So we're talking about a little bit about Kareem Jean-Pierre, her final press conference where she did not want to have John Kirby, who had substantive items and even announcements to make that would be positive for the Biden administration to take any of her time. So he had to spend time making his rounds on different television networks. And then, of course, the State Department didn't want to really discuss their success because they obviously made it clear that they included the Trump special envoy team on the situation involving Israel and Hamas. in these negotiations in Doha to make sure that they were in agreement with everything they were part of every decision and they would be able to be able to implement this because the Biden team is going to be gone as this is implemented so they had to be at the table and she didn't really want you to see any of that I don't even know if it was really about Joe Biden either it seemed to be about her how much she had done for Joe Biden but obviously whatever she had done for Joe Biden wasn't very helpful politically because, one, he couldn't even remain as his party's presidential candidate, which there's been so much discussion about the last two weeks, even by Biden himself coming out and saying, I think I could have won if I was still the candidate, things like that, looking back. But And I do think we'll learn a lot more about how that all went down when this administration does come to a close on Monday. But we also have things to look forward to, like talking to General McCuskey and JB, who has worked with us at the ACLJ against someone who's been a friend of the family, like part of the family, and my family, since we were 18 to 19 years old. and undergraduates at GW in Washington DC and you know unlike a lot of people who are in Washington DC his goal in life was not to figure out how to get back to Washington and it was to help his state of West Virginia and there we'll see and you see that in another photo Don Parsons who has been with ACLJ a couple times went back and worked in his home state of Ohio and was the lead attorney counsel to the Ohio State Senate because they wanted to get things done on the ground that benefited the people and their families that they care about the most, their home states. And so Sub ended up joining us again. Of course, we do the work at the state level and the federal level, at the individual level, at the ACLJ. And Will, what is... I think great about all these stories you see them coming together is those in the ACLJ, those are right now outside of the ACLJ, but are taking on big positions and are ready to make big changes to really reform the problems they've seen in their home states and to get the law out of the way. That's right Jordan and if you also think about regulations get them out of the way so their companies and businesses it can be a state where you could say you know what I'm looking for this and this I can consider West Virginia because it's got good regulations and good laws and we want more of those red states like that.
SPEAKER 06 :
And many times when you see positive changes come about in our country as JB mentioned about how slow congress is it's when you have a conservative constitutionalist attorney general Look at something either the federal government has done or something old within their state or something that they get a challenge in federal court on. And then when that gets to the Supreme Court of the United States, when you look at the docket of the Supreme Court of the United States, many times either the defendant or the plaintiff is one of the states. And that creates precedent for the entire country. So when you have someone that is young, very smart, very accomplished, and great at their job, that knows how to look for the things that can help reestablish some of the constitutional protections we need, That's why the attorneys general of the states are so important and so powerful is that in many times when you sue the federal government, you want to sue a friendly administration because then that changes the way the case plays out. And when you have a Supreme Court that we have currently make up, there is a very good chance for real reform through the legal path. that we didn't have over the last four years.
SPEAKER 04 :
Listen, we filed a lot of federal lawsuits under the first Trump administration because we had so many federal agencies acting alongside the deep state to try and undermine the president. So those FOIAs to get the information, the leaks that were going on, those were all technically filed against agencies the Trump administration controlled but wasn't able to actually get in control of. That won't happen again, I don't think, in this administration. We'll be right back. So it's great to have Rick Riddell, great to have Attorney General J.B. McCuskey of West Virginia. I like using that title now, General McCuskey. I actually took the oath, I think it was 12.01 a.m. the night before, late before, and because of some laws there, and then they do the inauguration that we all attended and the events that follow. But it's just, even though we are still, I'd say, on the younger side of the legal world, maybe, it's been a long road to get to those points of executive office and to move up into those key executive offices that can make such a difference, as JB said, so quickly in his home state of West Virginia. Of course, having Rick Grinnell as part of our team as well, looking at it from the federal side and really internationally at the entire world. I did want to, though, talk about, and this is, I think, uh very important uh will because the the hearings i have you know has been traveling and we've been watching those hearings from hotel rooms and and radios and then when it's back home um uh yesterday and you know we got to see pete hagseth just rip apart uh of that committee which honestly you know like i said that they when they are senators and we see it time and time again and i don't know when they'll learn their lesson on it but maybe go through the questions just like you would your pre-written statement that your staff writes. Maybe go through it once. and make sure what you're about to ask makes sense to the person you're about to ask it to. Like the question about generals and he's not a general and so that was kind of the end of that question. The whole issue, the nastiness that they tried to bring when you are going to go toe-to-toe in a very public setting, visual setting, with people who are both extremely knowledgeable on why they are there as the nominee to be a Secretary of Defense, but also extremely knowledgeable about going live and speaking and having people come at you with questions. And you have to have the facts. You have to have a quick recall of the facts. You have to be quick on your feet, if you will, when it comes to recall. And I'd love to hear, folks, your insight on that, too. What do you think so far about these confirmation hearings when the Dems have had their opportunity? Of course, they've tried to be pretty nasty. They've targeted some of these harder than others. Give us a call at 1-800-684-3110. But I think we saw why Pete Hegseth was able to survive that initial media attack. And then he really just had to keep meeting with the senators like he did and then make it to the hearing day where he could show the American people and senators who have now, even on the Republican side, who have now come out and said they support his nomination, how capable he is as a leader and as someone who can... deliver the instructions, deliver what the policy is going to be, deliver what the goals are going to be in a straightforward way that the American people understand. And I think, again, the enlisted men and women in the military, who he kept referring to, being his focus, not generals, not Washington, D.C., so important. And they turned to the Attorney General, Pam Bondi, and again, they tried to go after her. And Adam Schiff, now he's a U.S. Senator, so that's wonderful she got to She was on the impeachment defense team for President Trump with us in that first impeachment. And so she's been across from Adam Schiff before. And he went after her trying to say, Donald Trump said he's going to go after political enemies and all these things. Are you going to promise right now never to do that? And people forget what Adam Schiff was saying about Donald Trump as he was leaving office the first time. And Adam Schiff was saying, that Donald Trump the moment he is no longer president should be prosecuted and I think he had six or more active cases against him President Trump both in state and federal court so they did exactly what Adam Schiff wanted yet he's trying to get Pam Bondi to promise something he was encouraging the Department of Justice and state DAs to take on which is to sue Donald Trump and try to put him behind bars as a criminal and we can play it for you. First here he is talking to Pam Bondi in the hearing trying to get her to commit to some hypothetical scenario about someone who might be in public life that the department of justice investigates and by the way sometimes there are legitimate reasons to investigate people who are in public life not you don't want to see that being used as a political tool against republicans or democrats or partisan and Pam Bondi made that clear but this idea that that's never going to happen I mean that that's hardly ever the case but just take a listen this is Adam Schiff as senator for getting Adam Schiff as house member
SPEAKER 08 :
Answer a simple question. Let me ask you a different simple question. The president also wants to jail Liz Cheney. Sitting here today, are you aware of any factual basis to investigate Liz Cheney? Yes or no?
SPEAKER 09 :
Senator, that's a hypothetical, and I'm not going to answer that question.
SPEAKER 08 :
No, it's not a hypothetical. I'm asking you, sitting here today, whether you are aware of a factual predicate to investigate Liz Cheney.
SPEAKER 09 :
Senator, no one has asked me to investigate Liz Cheney. That is a hypothetical.
SPEAKER 08 :
The president has called for it publicly. You are aware of that, aren't you?
SPEAKER 09 :
No one has asked me to investigate Liz.
SPEAKER 08 :
We're also worried about Liz Cheney, Senator.
SPEAKER 09 :
You know what we should be worried about?
SPEAKER 08 :
The crime rate in California right now is three of the roof.
SPEAKER 09 :
Your robberies are 87% higher than the national average. That's what I want to be focused on, Senator, if I'm confirmed as Attorney General.
SPEAKER 08 :
And what you're suggesting today by your non-answer is you don't have the independence to say no to the President.
SPEAKER 04 :
First of all, he doesn't have any idea. These are totally hypothetical political statements made on a campaign trail. Those statements are made by both candidates, and then you get into governing. President Trump, did his DOJ spend years trying to put Hillary Clinton in jail? No. No. You know why? He had a lot more important things to do for the country that were going to affect you and me and your families. And he wanted to make those the priorities. That's exactly what Pam Bondi just said. Why are you, the California senator, while your state's burning, your crime rates are up, the drug rates are up, the state is a mess. And you're focusing it on Liz Cheney, a former Republican who's who joined your side politically in an attempt to try to stay relevant. And it didn't work. And do you think that's even on the top of President Trump's mind anymore? I don't really think so. But also, Will, it's Adam Schiff forgetting who Adam Schiff is, which is a guy who's wanted the entire Trump team in prison right now.
SPEAKER 06 :
And once again, it's actually a good thing for these people that are going through these confirmations that these are the only things they have to go after them on. In fact, these hypotheticals and political prosecutions, forget everything we've been doing for the last four years. But sure, it's absurd, but it is a little bit good because that shows that they have nothing. against these nominees that are very well qualified, very smart. But let's play. This is from Congressman Adam Schiff back in 2018. So well before any of the impeachment, the second impeachment, the January 6th calls for him to be imprisoned. This was Adam Schiff going after the president of the United States before any of that. on CBS Face the Nation, so one of the Sunday shows. Let's go ahead and hear what his take was on President Trump post-White House.
SPEAKER 07 :
There's a very real prospect that on the day Donald Trump leaves office, the Justice Department may indict him, that he may be the first president in quite some time to face the real prospect of jail time. We have been discussing the issue of pardons that the president may offer to people or dangle in front of people. The bigger pardon question may come down the road as the next president has to determine whether to pardon Donald Trump.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay, so that was a year before the first impeachment trial? Right. Adam Schiff already was calling for Donald Trump to be prosecuted the day he left office and saying he could be the first president behind bars. And then he's asking Pam Bondi to promise not to look at anyone and investigate anyone for crimes who might be political. I mean, those two things aren't the same. It's one thing when you try to use lawfare to stop a duly elected president and try and smear his entire first term, which they did try. And we could, I think, look back in history and see how successful that was and did that then just turn on them in this last election cycle in a very big way now that Donald Trump is going to be taking the oath again on Monday. But this idea now that it was okay for us but not okay for you Republicans. I mean, we're still getting things leaked, coming out about Jack Smith and his reports, and they thought they could convict Trump, all those things. And they love that, but if it's them, what are they so worried about? Like, do they really think there's anything to convict them on? I mean, and that's what Pam Bonney's talking about. Your work as Attorney General is for the American people, and you focus on the big issues first, which is the crime rates, The drugs, what you can do with the border, what you can do and make decisions about who is incarcerated, who is not. They have federally where funding needs to go, where the focus needs to be. They have a lot of decisions you can make. And of course, you are incarcerated. also going to be instructed by the President of the United States with their top policy ideas. They may not be telling you who to prosecute, but they are telling you where the resources, where we want to focus as an administration. And I just think yesterday just showed once they realize they're out of power again, They want the Department of Justice to promise not to prosecute anybody who's political. When they're in power, they're fine with the Department of Justice putting former presidents behind bars. Back on Sekulow, taking your calls. Call us, 1-800-684-3110. Be a part of the show. What do you think about these hearings so far? All right, welcome back to Sekulow. We are taking your calls to 1-800-684-3110. Let's go to Bill in Wyoming on Line 1. Hey, Bill, welcome to Sekulow. You're on the air.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah, thanks for taking my call. I hope I'm making this question right, because it sounds to me like maybe Schiff was talking about setting up some ethics standards for the Supreme Court. Sounds to me like they're still trying to maintain control and power of Even by setting up this ethics statement, who's going to be setting up that ethics? I come out saying they still want to maintain power.
SPEAKER 04 :
I mean for now let's remember on power will the republicans have all of it now some of it is is more limited the presidential power is a hundred percent for the next four years and you look at the house it's controlled by republicans the senate controlled by republicans so do you know if that's going to last your entire term no so you want to get as much done as you can in in these first two years possible, sometimes in the first hundred days, you want to focus on the key items that you want to get done first that you think is going to benefit the American people the most and is why they put you into office. But that does not mean that these, um, these Democrats who still have this self-loathing almost real hatred for President Trump, that they are still going to go the route of demonization and trying to take apart our Supreme Court and the history of the lifetime appointment.
SPEAKER 06 :
That's right. And when you look at, to Bill's point, yes, Adam Schiff earlier last year, while he was still in the House of Representatives, did introduce a bill that would put a code of ethics. It was called the Judicial Integrity Act. that would hold federal judges and justices accountable for violations of their ethical duties and restore such integrity to the courts. That was his plan. Obviously, it didn't go anywhere. There was still a Republican-led House at the time. But now that he's in the Senate, I don't necessarily think anything is going to go there as well. However... You did hear in the final address, if you listen closely, because it was a little jumbled, but President Biden did talk about, he kind of rushed through a bunch of line items that it's almost like he wished he could have done, but he's calling for in the future. And we'll play this because he talks about dark money in elections, the favorite standby of the left. But then he talks about Ethics reforms and term limits on the Supreme Court. That's the first time I think he's vocally said he supports term limits on the Supreme Court. Let's go and play bite one and then talk about it.
SPEAKER 03 :
We need to get dark money. That's that hidden funding behind too many campaigns contributions. We need to get it out of our politics. We need to enact an 18-year time limit, term limit, time and term, for the strongest ethics and the strongest ethics reforms for our Supreme Court. We need to ban members of Congress from trading stock while they're in the Congress. We need to amend the Constitution to make clear that no president, no president is immune from crimes that he or she commits while in office. The president's power is not limited. It's not absolute. And it shouldn't be.
SPEAKER 04 :
President's power is not limited, but it's also not absolute. It was a lot of word salad there too. On the reform of the courts, of all these things he thinks needs to be done when there's a Republican president, House, and Senate. I don't know how influential any of those statements will be. One is it was hard to even figure out what he was talking about.
SPEAKER 06 :
right but he according to the transcript he was saying um the 18-year term limit on supreme court but also that it would be he wants the strongest ethics and strongest ethics reforms for the supreme court which would be kind of a hat tip to what adam schiff tried to do in the house obviously the the left is not happy with the supreme court's current makeup They may be even less happy with it after four years because there's always a potential of new Supreme Court justices, even if that's just replacing a conservative with a younger member that will continue on for much longer. But I think you couple that with Biden's final address to the nation of things and warning of the oligarchy and all of these issues, and you couple that with the way that the Democrats are conducting themselves in these hearings, not really having a ton to go after, and so just making it a circus. And you also look at what Karine Jean-Pierre did yesterday. I think it is the perfect final note to the Biden administration, that it is ending as chaotically as it governed for four years. They can't get their talking points straight. They're only in it for themselves. And it is curious to me, I guess he's not concerned about it at this point because the special counsel already looked at and closed the case on him, but that he is saying that he wants the constitution amended for no presidential immunity for official acts while in office. That is such a dangerous precedent for any sitting president because of the nature of the job and what a rogue prosecutor, as we've talked about many times, could decide is a crime that violates some sort of criminal statute, even just ordering military strikes if they really want to be an advocate against a president. That's a really dangerous line to draw in the sand.
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Very dangerous. It's why it's not drawn in the sand. It's why that line doesn't exist. It's why the Supreme Court was clear on presidential immunity. And they didn't say it's on everything forever when you're out of office. But what they made clear is that you've got to really... It is not easy to determine when someone is president of the United States. And thus, they represent the entire executive branch of the United States as a person, as a human. They are that branch of government. And all these other agencies are put in place to assist them in being able to carry out their policies and what they promised the American people they would work hard to do. Some of those are harder than others. Some are just changes in rules. Some are just... changes in executive orders but others are legislative probably you got to work with congress you can't just do it through the executive branch the strongest powers are you know in the foreign policy realm but there's a lot of power that you know you could do some executive orders but those are those don't usually withstand the test of time so you do that if you have to and maybe to get the process going but you always want to get it done legislatively if you can. And so these first 100 days, you're going to focus in on the key issues that you promised the American people you would on. You know it's economic. You know it's involving just the feeling of security, the border, drugs, and making sure that America remains the superpower in the world and that we can end these conflicts. Remember what he said about Hamas. Really any surprise that Hamas has come to this situation? He said if there is not... If this war is not over by the time I am president, what I will do to Hamas is things they can't even imagine. I mean, it was a very strong language. So they're rushing right now to at least, whether they'll go through with it or not remains to be seen, and the Trump team will deal with that. But that's why they were rushing to get a deal, is because they have a president coming in who said, You don't get a path to release these hostages. And in this conflict, what is going to happen to you is going to be things that you could not even imagine. And they've already been through a lot with the IDF. But imagine what the United States could do. So I think, again, America is... on its way to be back on top and america's strength and what that means is the economy gets better the inflation goes down and uh we've got we know what we have to do secure our borders we know that we're going to be in court a lot defending a lot of these policies So we need you to stand with us. It's a great time. It's January to become an ACLJ champion, to support us each month, that automatic donation that you choose each month for every month of this year in 2025. Do it today at ACLJ.org slash champion. Stand with us as an ACLJ.
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As of this morning, the Prime Minister's office has made clear that Hamas have reneged on this hostage release agreement and has created a last-minute crisis in an effort to extort last-minute concessions.
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That was Israeli government spokesman David Mincer earlier today. Welcome to this Thursday edition of Washington Watch. I'm Tony Perkins. Thanks for tuning in. Well, coming up, President Biden's victory lap yesterday might have been a bit premature.
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This is the ceasefire agreement I introduced last spring. Today, Hamas and Israel have agreed to that ceasefire agreement and the whole ending the war.
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The deal between Israel and Hamas is on hold with critical details still unresolved. Was the deal rushed to try to pressure Israel into accepting it? We'll get the full story from Dr. A.J. Nolte, Director of the Institute for Israel Studies at Regent University. We'll also talk with Oklahoma Senator James Langford, who sits on the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence about the hostage and ceasefire deal. He'll share his thoughts on the confirmation hearings that took place this week, as well as the confirmation prospects of Robert Kennedy Jr. as Secretary of Health and Human Services. Plus, last night I joined several members of Congress and my friend Yossi Dagan, mayor of Samaria, to launch a new congressional caucus, the Friends of Judea and Samaria Caucus. Texas Congressman Randy Weber will be here to explain its purpose and its goals. And finally, we'll meet one of the new members of Congress, Brad Knott of North Carolina. He'll join us to discuss another measure that passed the House today. the Preventing Violence Against Women by Illegal Aliens Act. And 51 Democrats joined all Republicans in voting for that bill. We'll talk about that later. So that and much more coming up on today's edition of Washington Watch. Be sure and check out the website, TonyPerkins.com. Also. Download the Stand Firm app so you can take Washington Watch with you wherever you go. You'll also have access to the Washington Stand, our news and commentary feed, as well as our daily Bible devotional, Stand on the Word. All that can be found in the App Store, Stand Firm. Well, it's been a busy week in Washington with farewell addresses from the outgoing administration and confirmation hearings for President-elect Donald Trump's cabinet picks. Also in the mix over the last 24 hours has been the announcement of a ceasefire hostage deal between Israel and Hamas. However, it appears the announcement, as I mentioned earlier, was premature, and that may have been by design. Joining me now is Senator James Langford of Oklahoma, who serves on four Senate committees, including the Select Committee on Intelligence and the Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs. He is also the vice chair of the Senate Republican Conference. Senator Langford, welcome back to Washington Watch. Happy New Year. Good to see you. Thanks, Tony. It's always good to see you as well.
SPEAKER 10 :
Thanks for the work you're doing.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, thank you. Let me first get your take on the news we're hearing out of Israel and this hostage and ceasefire deal.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, very, very challenging. Obviously, we're all praying for peace. We're all praying for the return of these hostages. But when you're dealing with a terrorist organization like Hamas, it's not exactly a good actor here. They've been holding now 98 people that are there that they've been holding now for more than a year. Some of those more even predate October the 7th. I spent about two hours last night with a group of folks, including the Israeli ambassador, talking through all these issues, trying to be able to determine kind of next steps in this. The key issue right now is the deal that was made has a lot of ambiguity into it. And Hamas is using that to say we're not really going to do it the way that you think we're going to do it. It is also 33 hostages and they still have to have an agreement of those living hostages. or those that have already passed away while they're in captivity. Obviously, the Israelis want the living hostages to be able to come out first, and Hamas seems to be hedging on that. So there's a lot of issues still to be able to be resolved.
SPEAKER 11 :
And one of the issues that really put the brakes on this is that the ratio of exchange, there's going to be an exchange of hostages for terrorists. And I'm reportedly, it's what I'm told is it's about 50 to 1. And Israel wanted to be able to determine who that was, but that apparently was something that Hamas did not want. They wanted to pick who was going to be released. So this thing appears to be on very thin ice at present.
SPEAKER 10 :
It is, actually. This is the deal they've been working on since May. And what's interesting is the Trump administration, the new leadership that would come in for the national security and for Middle East peace and the envoy, they've been very engaged in this process, along with the Biden team. So the Biden team literally allowed the Trump team to be able to join in, help negotiate this. But that allowed both Trump and Biden team to be able to say to Hamas, this is the American position on it. And so Hamas couldn't play off on one administration to the other. So we're doing what it takes and what we need to be able to do to help bring some things together on it. Hamas, though, again, it's a terrorist organization, and they're always going to look for ways that they can gain leverage to be able to go back and kill more people simply because they're Jewish.
SPEAKER 11 :
Was this being rushed through to try to get something done so Biden could could claim credit for it? And the ink wasn't even dry. So the T's weren't crossed. The I's weren't dotted.
SPEAKER 10 :
Actually, this is the framework that actually Biden and his team actually started working since May to be able to pull together. The rush is actually just to get hostages out. All the families are obviously very eager for loved ones to be able to get out of captivity of a group of terrorists there. We have no idea how they're being treated, but it's probably not good. The push is let's get this done as fast as we can. The Israeli people are very ready to have their people home.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, I was with a former hostage, one who was released about 30 days into it in the first release, and her husband is still being held captive, and she described the conditions. And yes, they are very eager, and we continue to pray for that and want to see that happen. But we also understand Israel's underlying need to ensure their security and safety going forward by the elimination of this terrorist entity, Hamas, that is right there on their border.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, Tony, you know it extremely well. The Israeli people, many of them had developed a trust relationship with some of these Palestinian families that they had been around. And then on October the 7th of last year, some of those individuals that literally they had partnered with and helped and worked alongside in Israel and knew their family THEN CAME IN AND LED SOME OF THE TERRORISTS RIGHT INTO THEIR HOMES TO BE ABLE TO SLAUGHTER THEIR FAMILIES. SO TRUST IS SHATTERED IN ISRAEL WHERE THEY TRY TO REACH OUT AND DEVELOP PEACEFUL RELATIONSHIPS WITH THEIR NEIGHBORS. AND THOSE NEIGHBORS THEN CAME AND KILLED THEM FOR IT.
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YEAH. AND I KNOW YOUR CREDENTIALS ON ISRAEL, A SOLID ISRAEL SUPPORTER. YOU AND I WENT TO ISRAEL 12, 13 YEARS AGO TOGETHER ON A TRIP AND WORKING IN JUDEA AND SAMARIA. Let me switch gears here, Senator. I want to turn to the Senate hearings for President-elect Trump's cabinet. We've had several so far, including, I think, four today. Hearings have not yet been scheduled for all of President Trump's choices, including some of the most contentious among them, being Robert F. Kennedy Jr. for Health and Human Services Department. And I think you've had a chance to visit with him, if I'm not mistaken. I want to get your thoughts.
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I have. I had the opportunity to sit down with him in December. I want the early folks. I serve on that committee, the finance committee that will do the hearing. And we are waiting for that hearing to be set still. There's some paperwork and things that have not been submitted. And so obviously we want to get that done. That's an FBI background check. That's the ethics report. Those are just things that every single nominee goes through every single time. So we've got to be able to have that before we can actually schedule the actual hearings to be able to get it done. He and I talked on a lot of different issues on food and other things. But I spent a lot of my time talking about the life issues. And he was pretty clear with me and his family. He's got members of his family on every single position on the issue about abortion. But he also said in his personal belief, he is not as pro-life as I am or you are. But he said his personal belief is America has way too many abortions. It's embarrassing on the world stage. what is happening, and we need to reduce the number of abortions in America. And he was committed to taking us back to the HHS policy of the first Trump administration, which was a very pro-life HHS. And my request to him was not just that, but also undo what President Biden did, because President Biden has used HHS to increase the number of abortions in America. That needs to be undone as well.
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Yeah. In fact, front and center on that discussion is the FDA and the sending of the abortion pill via the mail, which is both a DOJ and a FDA issue. But that's now somewhere as possibly 70 percent of abortions being performed by that. So a pro-life state that has a pro-life law, it means nothing if the federal government is allowing these abortion pills to be sent through the mail.
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It is, actually. I asked him about that directly on it, and I said one of the issues is the FDA has used their political power to not have good science on this. They're using it for political purposes. They're literally telling hospitals if women have side effects, if they come in with severe bleeding, if they have all kinds of issues related to the use of these chemical abortion pills, don't report it unless she dies. So literally, FDA is using their power to suppress all of the bad information about these drugs. He immediately responded and said, that's just the kind of issue that I want to be able to expose where the big pharma companies are using their power, where there's a political basis to be able to not get the American people the information. So it was pretty clear about that, but we've got a long way to go on the issue of life.
SPEAKER 11 :
I mean, given his distrust for Big Pharma and I would think just allowing the facts to come out there, that's all we want. We just want the truth because the truth will speak very clearly on this issue. But I want to go back just for clarity because I would agree with you that I think the starting place is back to where the Trump Department of Health and Human Services was in 2020 when he left office because it was actually in a very good place. We had seen extremely good policy coming out. Is that the commitment that you have from Mr. Kennedy?
SPEAKER 10 :
That was my understanding on that. He also said that he and the president had talked about this and that President Trump had said, I am pro-life, we're going to have a pro-life HHS on it. I said, that's terrific. I'm following up with the president to be able to clarify that and make sure that conversation, I hear both sides of that conversation. But for me, that's baseline. We need to at least have the policies that were in President Trump's first administration, HHS, and in the State Department, because as you know, there's many different grants that are done to promote abortion and provide abortion worldwide. with Biden's State Department, those need to be turned off. And so that my tax dollars from taxpayers in Oklahoma are being used to take human life.
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Yeah, that would be a huge, huge step forward, just going back to where we were four years ago. Now, speaking of the life issue, the Senate is expected to vote next week on the Born Alive Survivors Protection Act. What do you expect when that hits the Senate floor next week?
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Yeah, I would expect to bring that up. That's my bill, along with Jim Banks, that we're actually bringing that bill forward to be able to protect children. If there's a botched abortion and a child's actually born alive, there should be basic American decency and values that that child is then protected. They're not in a womb. They're fully delivered at that point. That's a child everyone's looking at. We need to protect the value of that child there. That's coming up in front of the Senate. I have no expectation, quite frankly, right now that my Democratic colleagues will vote any different than they did last year. We feel it's very important to be able to continue to bring this, as we did with partial birth abortion decades ago. The Congress brought it up multiple times before they could actually get that settled in law. We believe we're going to continue to bring this up until we get this settled, until every American sees a child fully born. We should not have an argument about this, whether that child is actually a child in front of you.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, the difference is that you can actually bring it up and have a vote on it and have a debate about it. You couldn't do that under Chuck Schumer when he was the leader.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yep, that's correct. And that is one of the powers of being in the majority that we get to drive what actually comes to the floor. And Leader Thune agreed immediately to be able to bring this up. As you know, he and I were the co-sponsors of this in the last session. Leader Thune has been very pro-life and he's very focused on trying to be able to get this up so we can make some progress.
SPEAKER 11 :
We just got about 45 seconds left, but next week you're going to be introducing some measures for the Department of Government and Efficiency to get that rolling. What should we be looking for?
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So there's several things we're pulling together. This is something I've worked on for years, actually. I release every year a book we call Federal Fumbles. It's just areas of waste and overreach in the federal government. We'll pull some of these things out and there'll be a series of different bills that we'll release. This one in particular deals with things like telework, how we do our record keeping, engagement of individuals in the process of actually forming a regulation. If I can say it this way, Tony, it's kind of the nerdy stuff behind the scenes. We all see the grant that's put out there for drag shows in Ecuador that Americans paid for. We see that and we highlight it, but I'm asking the question, how did it happen? How do we fix it before it ever starts?
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All right. We want to talk with you about that when that comes up. And so, Senator, thanks for joining us today and we'll see you real soon. All right, folks, we're back with more after this.
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Thank you, Tony. As always, it's great to be here.
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So give me, overall, give me your take on the deal.
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I think it's not great. I think that it's very similar to the deal that was proposed last year in March. Very, very little has changed in the deal. But the facts on the ground have changed significantly in two ways. One, that should have gotten the Israelis a better deal. And the other that I think is the driving factor for Netanyahu and why he's considering this is Obviously, facts on the ground have changed from Hamas's perspective. Their support has been crippled. They are now much more isolated than they were last year when something similar to this deal was initially proposed. But I think one fact that we are underestimating as Americans, and both the Biden and Trump administrations are claiming a lot of credit for this, but the Israeli population has just been absolutely traumatized by the hostage situation. And an increasingly loud, vocal percentage of that population just wants to see the hostages come home. And I think we can sympathize with that on an emotional level. And so they're wanting a deal, even if it's not in the long-term geopolitical risk, because they are so confident. Because of the recent military successes that whatever happens in the short term, I think they're perhaps maybe a little overconfident that they can just go back in regardless when Hamas inevitably reneges and pick up right where they left off.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, I've had a few conversations with those over in Israel in the last 24 hours to kind of get my sense, those close to the prime minister. And here's my take. How I see this deal is that you're right. I think Biden was trying to get a deal. so he could claim something. I mean, it's interesting. This is like the ring. Everybody wants to touch it. They want to say they've solved the issue in the Middle East. And you see Biden trying to do that before he goes out of office. I also think contributing to this pressure that has fallen upon Israel is the incoming Trump administration, when the president said he wants the hostages released before he takes office, that that created unnecessary pressure to get a deal, even if it was a bad deal. I mean, let's look at the elements of this deal. Six weeks to release 33 hostages, and they're not able, the Israelis are not able to identify which of those 33 will be released. They could be actually deceased hostages. But on the other hand, and this is one of the big issues that's putting this thing on hold, is that Hamas gets to pick which terrorists get out of prison.
SPEAKER 15 :
Israel is absolutely never going to agree to that, and there's a very particular reason, and this goes to some internal Palestinian politics. One of the prisoners Hamas once released is a guy named Marwan Barghoudi. He's a terrorist, but he was actually affiliated with Fatah. The reason they wanted do this is because they can claim, we got Barghouti out and you, Fatah, couldn't. And how do we get them out? By this horrible attack on October 7th. And so Israel recognizes this would be a huge strategic failure to allow Hamas to claim credit for that. And so that's one of the things that Hamas is pushing for. And of course, Hamas also wants terrorists that will be able to join them in Gaza or cause problems in the West Bank as well.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, Yahya Sinmar. Yes, exactly. He was a terrorist that was released from prison. And what did he do? He became a leader of Hamas.
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Absolutely. And so they're very cognizant of that and they're hoping for that. Now, if you're somebody who is concerned about Israel's freedom to operate under this deal, let's just always remember that every time there's been a negotiation or a deal in the past, it has been Hamas that has reneged, Hamas that has broken the deal. And so to a certain extent, I think Netanyahu recognizes that reality and recognizes Hamas is going to break the deal. And then he can go back to Trump and say, yes, see, I told you this was going to happen.
SPEAKER 11 :
So but what happens in this period of six weeks? Because I also understand why we haven't seen all the particular details. I'm told that this also calls for mass humanitarian assistance during the six week period. So what does that do to Hamas?
SPEAKER 15 :
One of the problems with humanitarian assistance in Gaza and in the West Bank and throughout Palestinian society has always been who determines how that is administered and if it's administered in a way that plays into the bad actors. And I mean, from UNRWA to the seizure of Hamas food shipments during this most recent hostage we've always seen, humanitarian assistance has not gotten to the people. And I'm very much in support of humanitarian assistance for the Palestinian people if it's going to get to them. But what I'm not in support of is giving Hamas more levers to bully the civilians, which they've been doing since they came into power in Gaza in 2007.
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And I would think it also gives them the opportunity to regroup. Now, they are, I mean, their leadership is pretty much decimated. They've been crushed. But you allow them to regroup. And I think there's some concern that the pressure will build after a six-week ceasefire that could potentially prohibit Israel from going in and eliminating this threat from Gaza by eliminating Hamas.
SPEAKER 15 :
I think that's a legitimate concern. I'm not as concerned about that, and here's why. Given past performance and given the ideology of Hamas, they are going to do something provocative that will be directed at Israeli soil. And after 10-7, I think the Israeli population recognizes that Hamas has got to go. I think right now that recognition is just intention for the population with this desperate desire to just get the hostage situation resolved and get their loved ones home.
SPEAKER 11 :
Dr. Nolte, we just have about a minute left, but the political pressure. I mean, you have a coalition government there. The prime minister has those to his right that could pull out if he gives in to some of these demands by Hamas.
SPEAKER 15 :
One of the major figures on the right, Bitzalah Smutrich, the last report I had last night was that he was not going to pull out and he wasn't committing to that. There's another figure, Itamar Ben-Kavir, who might. And so it is very delicate for Netanyahu. But he's been in this business a very long time. He's negotiated these coalitions a very long time. And I think that my money is that he will find a way to survive this and that Hamas ultimately will end up breaking the deal and then Israel will hammer them and that the Trump administration will end up supporting that because their national security team, whatever the envoys may see, the national security team gets that.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah. I do think you're right about Prime Minister Netanyahu. He has more political lives than a cat. I mean, he survives. Dr. Nolte, thanks for joining us. Thank you for having me. All right. After the break, folks, we're going to continue to talk about Israel, talk about a historic launch of the Friends of Judea and Samaria Caucus. That's next. Don't go away.
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Well, that's exactly the tact, Tony. We appreciate y'all's involvement and taking a lead role in that. Thank you for being there. It was great to see you last night. There was a lot of people there who were interested in this, and Congresswoman Claudia Kennedy did a great job by reintroducing this caucus. getting this caucus out and running. Look, and I said this last night, you heard me say this, our country was founded on Judeo-Christian values, not West Bank Christian values. And that got a round of applause from the public there because they understood exactly what that meant. I've been saying for a long time, Tony, the two-state solution is, in my opinion, DOA dead on arrival. They cannot force Israel to let terrorists live right beside them. That's exactly what it seems like the former, or maybe I should say the current administration, is intent on doing. We need to make sure, as you rightly pointed out, that biblical Judea, biblical Samaria, absolutely stays in control by the Israelis, by the Jewish people. It is their homeland. God gave it to them. And any attempt to make it anything other than that, in my opinion, is a non-starter.
SPEAKER 11 :
So one of the first initiatives of this caucus is to get the legislation that you were a part of advancing in the last Congress is going to be reintroduced. And that is simply to say in our conversation, because words matter, The federal government, when they talk about this area, Judea and Samaria, the word West Bank goes away and it's referred to as it should be, Judea and Samaria. It sounds simple, but it's profound because that terminology, West Bank, has created more division in conflict in the Middle East than anything else.
SPEAKER 01 :
Well, and you've been there, I've been there, and we both know what's at stake. We've seen it up close and personal firsthand. So thank you for bringing that up. That's exactly what we're talking about. The terminology does matter. Words do matter. And how it's viewed by our federal government, by the State Department, I found some disturbance, had some more meetings with some of our Jewish friends today. And they told me that there's a lot of people in that area who Jews who have been sanctioned by the state department because of their stand and words matter. The United States needs to be Israel's best partner. I've read the Bible. God said, whoever blesses Israel, he will bless. Whoever curses Israel, he will curse. We know where we want to be in that scenario. So thank you for bringing attention to it with your viewers today, because there's a lot at stake here, and we're going to be working exactly toward that end.
SPEAKER 11 :
Now, you said, you know, this two-state solution, dead on arrival. And it goes dormant, but then, you know, four years from now, if we... God forbid, and I pray that he would if he will bless our efforts, that we will not have a Democratic administration. But we've had this ping pong match. I mean, is it four years of conservative, four years of liberal? This could come back. But this is an opportunity to bury that idea after October the 7th. That was a two state solution. I think you drew attention to that last night. It's a failure and we need to move on.
SPEAKER 01 :
Right, well, that's exactly right. You've been there, I've been there, and as I said last night, I've been there in the kibbutzes, I know you have too, and seen all the killing and the bloodshed and all the things that happened by those barbarians, by Hamas. And kind of on a side note, I'm watching the supposed... you know, ceasefire that seems like now it's dead on arrival because there's issues. The Hamas can't be trusted. You know, in their charter, when they say they want to annihilate all the Jews and Israel, take them at their word. And all this would be would be a continuation of the West Bank, in my opinion, of anybody that left Gaza going to West Bank. You've got your enemies then on both sides of you, and we cannot allow that to happen. I want the United States to be extremely upfront and making sure that we're on Israel's side in this one.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, you know, history should teach us that when someone says they want to kill you, but they want to kill you. You need to believe these crazy people. Congressman Randy Weber, I want to thank you for joining us today, but thank you on your leadership, your passion for Israel, and I look forward to working with you to advance this in the days and weeks ahead. Well, thank you, Tony. Thank you for keeping it in the forefront. We appreciate what y'all do. All right. Have a blessed night. Congressman Randy Weber of Texas, and I will keep you posted on that. It's going to be, I think, a quite significant undertaking, and I think historic in its effect if we can succeed, and I think we will. All right, coming up next, we're going to be joined by North Carolina Congressman Brad Knott. He's new to Congress. He's going to be joining us about actually one of the bills that passed today, another issue, another bill focusing on the issue of illegal immigrants and the terror that they're doing. That's next. Don't go away. Hello, I'm Tony Perkins, president of Family Research Council here in Washington, D.C. Behind me is one of the most recognizable buildings in all the world, the U.S. Capitol. What does it stand for? Well, most people say government. But you know, the Bible talks about four institutions of government. You know what they are? And do we have a republic or a democracy? Well, what do you say? Also, what about this thing separation of church and state? Does that mean Christians shouldn't be involved in government? Guess what? We address those issues and more in our new God and Government course. I invite you to join us to see what the historical record and the Bible has to say about government. Join us for God and Government.
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SPEAKER 11 :
Welcome back to Washington Watch. Thanks for joining us. And let me invite you to join us in our effort of praying for our country, for our allies in a very, very volatile time. I told you after the election it was going to be volatile and well, events have proven me to be accurate. So you can become a part of our Operation Prayer Shield. Just text the word SHIELD to 67742. That's SHIELD to 67742. Our word for today comes from Isaiah 65. Thus says the Lord as the new wine is found in the cluster. And one says, do not destroy it for a blessing is in it. So will I do for my servant's sake that I may not destroy them all. I will bring forth descendants from Jacob and from Judah, an heir of my mountains. My elect shall inherit it, and my servant shall dwell there. Sharon shall be a fold of flocks in the valley of Achor, a place for herds to lie down for my people who have sought me. See, God's mercy is seen even in his judgment as this speaks to a godly remnant that would be preserved. This again underscores that God is not finished with the Jewish people. The Gentile church should be grateful and humble that God has invited us in. And we should join Him in prayer and in our work to see the restoration of His people, Israel, that is coming. This is a profound reminder of God's redemptive plan. To join us in our journey through the Bible, text BIBLE to 67742. That's BIBLE to 67742. Earlier today, the House approved the Preventing Violence Against Women by Illegal Aliens Act with all Republicans and 51 Democrats joining the effort. Maybe they got the message. Joining me now in studio to discuss this and more is freshman Congressman Brad Nutt, who serves on three House committees, including the Judiciary Committee and the Homeland Security Committee. He serves the 13th Congressional District of the state of North Carolina. Congressman Nutt, welcome to Washington Watch. Thanks for joining us. Absolutely. It's good to be here. And I welcome you to Congress. Yes, sir. And to Washington, D.C. So let's talk first about this legislation that passed today because before running for Congress, you were a federal prosecutor. So the issue of law and order is a big one for you. And I can't think of anything more glaring except maybe the weaponization of government than our southern border when it comes to the lawlessness that we've seen the last four years.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yes, that's correct. In large part, that was the motivation for me to run for office. And I was a federal prosecutor, like you said. I was blessed to serve. It was a dream of mine to do it and worked alongside so many wonderful law enforcement officers and agents at the local and the national level. But as we were talking about off camera, the The policies of the last four years, Tony, to say it was overwhelming is an understatement. To have well over 10 million people, in my estimation, come across the border, shuffled all over the country, welcomed with no enforcement of our laws, we're going to be dealing with that for a long, long time in a very, very detrimental way to the country. And there are a lot of people that are coming to this country to commit crimes. When you have the open incentive structure that we currently have under the Biden-Harris administration, you get what you ask for. And we've welcomed in a lot of people who are sowing pretty treacherous seeds, in my opinion, all over the country.
SPEAKER 11 :
I want to play a clip from today's debate. This is Congresswoman Laurel Lee from Florida. Clip number six.
SPEAKER 07 :
The time is now to take seriously the danger of criminal aliens in the United States. Anything that makes it easier for adjudicators and officials to ensure a criminal alien's arrest and removal should receive overwhelming bipartisan support.
SPEAKER 11 :
Now, the bill came out of the House today. As I mentioned, all Republicans voted for it, 51 Democrats. tells me it probably got a good chance of passing in the Senate. Tell us what exactly that measure does.
SPEAKER 09 :
So the bill, basically, it categorizes criminals who are adjudicated guilty of certain offenses, violence against women, domestic abuse, et cetera. And it basically allows for the law to categorize them as immediately deportable and unworthy of coming back legally. And there are so many bureaucratic hurdles currently, both from this administration that we're under right now and from previous administrations, to getting dangerous people out of the country. One of the hurdles, candidly, is the number of people. In some estimates, there's over a million people. immigrants that are backlogged in these adjudication forums to get them out of the country. And this law just says, if you've committed acts of violence against women, if you're a domestic abuser, et cetera, you can go to the top of the list if needed and expedite the deportation.
SPEAKER 11 :
I would imagine that Congress is going to have to allocate more resources to removing these people from the country because it's like you can only fit so many people through a door at one time.
SPEAKER 09 :
That's right. We will need to appropriate dollars, but the cost that no one is talking about, Tony, is doing nothing. We have over 100,000 Americans that are dying every year from one drug. We have a wave of illegal immigrants who were soaking up tax dollars in the form of free medical care. And by some estimates, up to 10% of the babies born in this country have illegal immigrant parents. They come here and they get free health care in the emergency rooms. Those are the types of costs that no one discusses. So if we can appropriate dollars to enforce the law, We'll have a solid return on investment.
SPEAKER 11 :
No argument from me on that. I'm just pointing it out that the current infrastructure is not going to accommodate this. I don't want to use the term mass deportation because I think that's the wrong characterization of it. I think it is a deportation of people who do not need to be here.
SPEAKER 09 :
That's right. That's right. And this law is a perfect example. There needs to be a separate category in the law that we can hopefully finish and write that treats illegal immigrant criminals, people who are here committing crimes actively, as separate and distinct from American citizens. There needs to be enhanced penalties. There needs to be enhanced deportation efficiency. And allocating the resources necessary to do that is a very high priority for this Congress.
SPEAKER 11 :
So let's talk, let's step back for just a moment, Brad, in terms of your making a decision to run for Congress. I mean, that's serving as a prosecutor, working in that arena and coming to Congress, which Frankly, even the latest polling shows it's not held in the highest regard and it's not always seen as a very functional institution. Of course, people don't realize by design Congress is designed not to be that efficient because if it were, it would do stuff too quickly and that would not be good in some cases.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, again, the personal motivation, of course, was driven in large part by my professional experience with what I saw as a prosecutor. I mean, I had cases all over the country, and it was exacerbated over the last four years. But really, with the exception of President Trump, there's been an open border for my entire lifetime. And it's time to secure that and to fix it so that my children don't have to grow up with the same problems. And if we don't stem the tide soon, we are going to have irreparable harm.
SPEAKER 11 :
So it was kind of as a practitioner, you saw the problem, but you saw that it was systemic because the system is broken. And the best way to do that is bring your knowledge and understanding to the table to craft policy that could fix it.
SPEAKER 09 :
That's correct. And there's also, you know, personally, my wife and I, we're very conservative. We've both been blessed with Christian homes. And we believe that America is most sound when it rests in its Judeo-Christian values and the Christian foundation that we have. and the last four years have shown that we are we're losing that in a big way and just getting back to common sense constitutional um you know hard problems but simple problems is is also a motivation that drove us to do i want to talk about that faith uh congressman because i i as i understand you uh you've taught bible study do a bible study and in fact i think you used the line and correct me if i'm wrong prosecuting criminals by day and teaching bible by night
SPEAKER 11 :
How did that factor into your decision, and how will it factor into how you approach policy decisions?
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, I don't know if you've heard of Bible Study Fellowship, but my parents were deeply involved in BSF for probably 35 years. My dad had to stop, actually, when he ran for attorney general in North Carolina. But when I came back to Raleigh, I joined the men's class that he started. And of all the things that I had to leave behind, that men's Bible study fellowship class is probably the most difficult for me. And Tony, I've long said that when I was a prosecutor, you kind of get a lens into various homes and communities that demonstrate clearly that there really aren't too many political solutions that can address our gravest ills. And we have to have a strong body politic, but the church must be robust as well. And whether it's the least of these in a material sense or broken homes that are coming on fourth, fifth generations of fatherlessness, unless we really get that servant's heart that the Bible talks about, and take care of our neighbors on a personal level, not a political level, I think that the future is fairly bleak. And studying God's Word, being a member of a church, that's central to my wife and to me, and it's something that, in addition to running for Congress, it's our primary motivation.
SPEAKER 11 :
In order to bring that about, I mean, we have to allow our faith to inform our decisions. No question. And as an elected official, you can't be forced to check that at your door. Some would like you to check that at the door of Congress. But what we've seen, especially over the last four years, we saw it prior to Donald Trump in his first administration. I helped get the... executive order on religious freedom passed or adopted. We've seen people of faith marginalized. We've seen people who work in public spaces, firemen, policemen, that have to check their faith at the door of service. That's got to be fixed.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yes, it does. And we've seen a total perversion of what the, quote, separation of church and state means. We've seen an attack on very traditional faith in the United States. I mean, just the last four years, whether it was churches, whether it was people who were trying to witness to those going to an abortion clinic. All of us have seen the clips of the FBI categorizing Catholic Church as potential terrorists or domestic terrorists.
SPEAKER 11 :
Or grandmothers praying outside of an abortion clinic and being sentenced to a dozen years in prison. It's outrageous. This is the weaponization that people—it's real. It is. How are we going to get a handle on that? And not just stop it, but reverse—turn that around.
SPEAKER 09 :
You know, the Congress does have the oversight role, and I think bringing that out, fleshing it out as best we can, putting the light on it is one way to do it. And again, Christians must be engaged. Far too many Christians and traditional believing Americans stay out of the political process. It's time to drop that by the side and to get involved because. The United States has been the greatest source of blessing to the world over any country. And I view it as a stewardship. Christians, Americans, we've all been blessed to be here. It's time to dig in and really take a stand with that.
SPEAKER 11 :
And that's why I think, and this is where I see the role of the federal government and the incoming Trump administration, not that they're going to fix the problems in terms of what ails America. As you pointed out, it is not political, it's spiritual. And so it's incumbent upon the church and followers of Christ to delve in, roll up their sleeves and work with their neighbors and their communities, mentoring these fatherless children and all the things that the church should be doing. But this is where the government comes in, is making sure that those people can do that in the name of Jesus and they can live out their faith in a way that is unhindered and unrestrained by the government around them. Amen.
SPEAKER 09 :
That's what this country was built on. But we've lost it. We have. What we've seen over the last four years and really even before the last four years, it's been a very steady and increasingly aggressive attack on that. And getting it back is paramount. And that's to Trump's credit, President Trump's credit. He's recognized that. And I think he is all in to preserve it.
SPEAKER 11 :
Talking about the weaponization, I want to kind of show how perverse this is where pro-lifers are thrown in prison. But then you have like a sweetheart deal that was given to an MS-13 gang leader by the Biden administration. I mean, this is upside down.
SPEAKER 09 :
It's very upside down, and one of the things that we've seen is a perversion of truth, a perversion of justice. Those in power think they can just declare something that's flatly impossible. They think they can dictate a narrative. And when I saw the headline that you're referring to and read about it— Give a little detail on that because I didn't mention it. Yeah, so this MS-13 member who was recently given a plea deal by the Department of Justice— He admitted to involvement in over seven murders. Two of them were young girls, 15 and 16, I believe. The murders were barbaric. The killers used baseball bats and machetes. These were American citizens. And this was the end of a long line of criminal activity, racketeering, robberies, arson, et cetera, all violence, all traumatizing to the communities. And he's here illegally. He shouldn't be here. And he's inflicting all of that harm on this country. And rather than going to a guaranteed life sentence or even death, which the law permits, the Biden administration bent over backwards and gave him what I would say is a very light sentence for the crimes that he committed. There are seven murders. He got what will be probably a 40-year sentence. So he will see the light of day again. And, again, I think that's a disgrace to every American, but specifically those victims who have suffered so mightily.
SPEAKER 11 :
It's incredible. Yep. It is. Seven murders. He's here illegally. Absolutely. And 40 years. Yep. And you have people who pray outside of abortion clinics that are serving a dozen years. Yes. Nonviolent. Yep. This is upside down. This is what angers Americans.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yes. And it's happened more than the press has obviously covered.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, this is so extreme, you can't ignore this.
SPEAKER 09 :
Right, right. And it's upside down is the nice way of saying it.
SPEAKER 11 :
Wow. Well, there is so much work to be done. We've just got about a minute left. Other than the border addressing that issue, top priorities? The debt.
SPEAKER 09 :
I mean, of all the issues, if we do not deal with the border and we don't deal with the debt, they both will deal with us. And those are the systemic issues that I really am focused on.
SPEAKER 11 :
It's going to require so much education in the American public because that can has been kicked down the road so much that people just, they've heard it's a problem. but it's never dealt with, and the sky hasn't fallen. Yes, it will. We're at a point where we are now paying more on our interest of our debt than our national defense. Staggering.
SPEAKER 09 :
It is. And it's not sustainable.
SPEAKER 11 :
No, not at all. Congressman Brad Knot, great to see you. Thanks for stopping in and joining us today. And again, congratulations on your election. It's my pleasure. All right. And folks, I want to thank you for joining us today as well. And be sure and download the Stand Firm app. That way you have access to all of our information, including the Washington Stand and our daily Bible commentary, Stand on the Word, and action items. So you'll know over the next hundred days as we are working to help Congress pass some good legislation, we're going to need you to lean in. And you can do that if you have the Stand Firm app. So go to the App Store and download the Stand Firm app. All right, until next time, I leave you once again with the encouraging words of the Apostle Paul, where he says, when you've done everything you can do, when you've prayed, when you've prepared, and when you have taken your stand, by all means, keep standing.
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In this episode, Mike Gallagher and Mark Davis tackle recent political dynamics, including the influence of past presidents, the desperation in Biden's recent moves, and the historical tax policies that have shifted business strategies over decades. Tune in for a provocative and insightful conversation that spans from American tax policies to international developments in the Middle East.
SPEAKER 01 :
Mike Gallagher. Every day, Mike visits with Mark Davis, morning host on 660 AM, The Answer in Dallas. Here's today's Eminem experience.
SPEAKER 02 :
Hey, how about a scam? And I love listening to you, and I heard you say, oh, Lord, when Grandpa Joe, who... Our new morning host before you, Chris DeGaulle, captured it perfectly. There was a big concern that his teeth were going to fall out of his head any moment last night. I mean, it was bad. Mumbles and mumbling and stammering, and it sounded like he did have a denture malfunction. But he did the crap about, all I wanted for the people to pay the fair share. Right. I get so mad at that because I would love once and for all for somebody to tell me what that means. And no one can ever define it. Give me a number. Well, give me a number. I'll give you some numbers because I got my tax returns out for the last 10 years. Now, look, I'm blessed. And this is part of the problem. You and I are blessed. We don't exactly make minimum. wage. No violin music for us eating dog food. We make a good living. But by the way, that's baked into the cake for these leftists, because that's their point, too. They say, look, Mark Davis, Mike Gallagher, these guys make a lot of money, so they can afford to pay a lot more than they're paying. All right, how much more than 51% of my income am I supposed to give to the government, Mark? When I left New York, Now, admittedly, that's New York, because I'm paying city, state, and federal taxes.
SPEAKER 1 :
51%.
SPEAKER 02 :
Now, you're telling me that me giving more than half of my income to the government isn't my fair share, Mark? I come to Texas, I mean Texas, Florida, to get away from that, no more city or state, it's still 50%. close to 40. I mean, you know, I looked at my tax returns for the last 10 years. I mean, again, cry no tears for me. That's right. But if a seven-figure tax burden is not my fair share, I paid seven figures. I'm in the seven figures here over the last decade of what I've paid in taxes. I mean, I'm not kidding you. It's unbelievable how much tax... And look, I keep saying, well... 50% of what I make is still better than most, and I know that, and I'm blessed. But what's my fair share of that, Mark? That's exactly it.
SPEAKER 1 :
80%?
SPEAKER 03 :
Listen, this is why the Beatles and the Stones started to do business in America, because in England they had like a... 80, 90% tax burden. Is that what Biden wants?
SPEAKER 02 :
Is that what the Democrats want? Of course it is. Great, great. Of course it is. So I've worked in this business 45 years. I've achieved a certain level of success. And I'm supposed to be taxed so that I earn, you know, what an insurance agent earns. Because the insurance agent ain't paying 80%. That's the thing that gets me. But that's all it's about with these people. The Bidens of the world, the Democrats, the loony leftists of the world see the world this way. We're the bad guys because we're financially successful, and we've got to be cut down to size. That's just, that's their worldview, Mark. There's no way around that. And meanwhile, and my gosh, yesterday, Pam Bondi, holy moly, she's strong, tough. She took on, I mean, Adam Schiff, at one point she said, look, you were censored by Congress for asking questions like this. Little pencil neck.
SPEAKER 03 :
The other California Senator, Alex Padilla, she said, I'm not going to be bullied by you. Just super. Before we go to her, one last thing on Biden, and it's a big one, but we can probably cover in 30 seconds. The always kind, always gracious Harold Ford Jr. was on my list of my favorite Democrats. He's on the five and did some of the post Biden comments. He has said I think he's just being gracious to that history will be kinder to Biden than his current approval ratings might be. And I thought about that, by the way, which is. Yeah, I think the only Truman was worse coming out in 1952. Yeah. Why? Why in the world would they be? Was history kinder to Carter? Not really. Until Biden, he was America's worst president ever.
SPEAKER 02 :
In 20 years long enough.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, go ahead.
SPEAKER 02 :
In 2050 years, what can they say were the Biden achievements?
SPEAKER 03 :
Thank you. And how will they be spun better? I mean, well, how and if anything, Trump 2.0 is going to make the Biden years maybe not look worse. But as Reagan did to the Carter years, the Trump years are going to show, hey, this is actually how you do it.
SPEAKER 02 :
Well, watching watching it. Watching Biden's desperation in trying to claim credit for the Hamas terrorist hostage ceasefire deal is fascinating. He's frantically trying to. In fact, at the beginning of the speech last night, they obviously inserted that because it was a last-minute development. Is there anyone that doesn't think Trump's emergence and ascension is the reason this happened? Look, Biden had 15 months to get a deal done. And you're telling me five days before the inauguration? Look, even Bibi, everybody's acknowledging it's the Trump effect. Now, having said that, I get it. Biden is the sitting president. And if the deal is going to happen this week or this weekend before, okay. Well, we'll see. Now there's some questions about it. You know, now there's Bibi is saying that the Hamas is pulling some shenanigans. Oh, color me shocked. What?
SPEAKER 03 :
Hamas? Not honest brokers? They're not Boy Scouts?
SPEAKER 02 :
The terrorists aren't being honorable? No. Tell them no. You say it isn't so. But look, we've got to pray for these people. There's a couple of dozen people still. I think most of them are dead. I hate to say that. I don't want to be disrespectful, but these scoundrels, these monsters are awful. But, you know, for Biden to try to... I get trying to grab the credit, but there was a level of desperation to it that I found really, really. But Pam Bondi, and you know, when I see Richard Blumenthal up there, I still can't get over stolen valor Blumenthal grilling Pete Hegseth. That's astounding to me. How does he get to be on the Armed Services Committee, Mark? How could you be on that august committee when you've lied about serving your country in Vietnam?
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, the voters keep putting you there, and then a Democrat-run Senate gives you a position of power. Right.
SPEAKER 02 :
Now, I don't know of any more. We've got a new sheriff in town, and we're bundled up. We're ready to go.
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In fact, we're—go ahead. Before we leave the hostage thing, and we all pray for that to work, I've given this to listeners. I want to give it to you. It is a documentary called We Will Dance Again. I don't know if you heard me talking about it. Oh, yeah, no, you have. It is remarkable. It is survivors of and their cell phone video of. Those attacks, it puts you in that festival grounds for that attack.
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In fact, today on the show, we're going to visit with Yael Eckstein, who's the president and CEO of the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews. And I got a pretty big announcement to make, and I'll share it with you because you're my buddy and this is my family here, 660 AM The Answer. We're headed back to Israel this year. We're going to go back to the Holy Land on the anniversary of October the 7th. And you ready for this? Even better? We're going to give people who want to come with me the opportunity to join me. We're going to open this up to our audience. We're going to have a fairly small exclusive group of listeners who are able to come and join us in Jerusalem in October. Wow.
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Crawford is an independent broadcasting company, and I'm an independent broadcaster. And what that means is I purchase my airtime, which means that we have full freedom on the selection of our guests as well as our subjects. And some of you are sending in some great subject selections. Thank you to Ginny. I do appreciate that, and I will get on that. The show does broadcast 6 to 8 a.m. Monday through Friday. on all KLZ 560 platforms, and the first hour rebroadcasts 1 to 2 in the afternoon, the second hour rebroadcasts 10 to 11 at night, and then the next day we should have our summary up on my website with the podcast, and those podcasts can be heard on Spotify, iTunes, and all of those different platforms. streaming services, but KLZ 560 platforms are KLZ 560 AM, KLZ 100.7 FM, the KLZ website and the KLZ app. You can listen anywhere in the world. And we look at these issues through this. We're looking for truth and clarity on these issues. And we look at them through this lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. Something's a good idea. You should not have to force people to do it. And, my friends, it's never compassionate to take other people's stuff, whether or not it's their rights, their property, freedom, livelihood, opportunities, or lives, via force. And force can be a weapon, but it can be policy, unpredictable, and excessive taxation, fear, coercion, government-induced inflation, the World Economic Forum agenda, the globalist elites agenda, the United Nations, the Colorado State Legislature, which is being controlled by radical activist extremists. as well as the Colorado governor's office. Same thing. Radical extremist policies. He's trying to paint himself as a libertarian. But all of the stuff that is happening in Colorado can be laid right at his feet. And so... We need to make sure we make that clarification. The World Health Organization, land use code, zoning regulations, forest fees, conservation easements, national monument designations, and the list goes on and on and on. If something's a good idea, you should not need to use force to implement it. Our word of the day, and your challenge is to use this in a sentence, is germane. And it is spelled G-E-R-M-A-N-E. And I'm listening when I'm talking with people. And Colonel Bill Rutledge had used this in a conversation when we were... thinking about different shows that we're going to be organizing for all of you. But it could be ideas or information that is germane to a particular subject or situation is connected or is important to it. And so germane is spelled G-E-R-M-A-N-E. And your challenge is to use that in a sentence today. And I'll be working on that as well. There's so many serious things out there. And I thought, let's try to get a little bit of humor in our quote of the day. And went to Bob Hope. And Bob Hope was born in 1903. He died in 2003. He was an English-born American comedian, actor, entertainer, and producer. His career spanned over 80 years. Started in vaudeville. And he appeared in more than 70 short and feature films. And he was, during the Vietnam War, he would take entertainers to the war zones. And I remember watching some of those. And it was really great that they would do that and bring some entertainment to those that were on the front line. And so his quote today by Bob Hope is no one party can fool all the people all the time. That's why we have two parties. And he was a great and could bring a lot of great humor to all of the parties. politics of the day, and it's really not that different, it seems like. I thought, let's get to this day in history. And I pull these things out so that we can realize that the climate has always been changing. There's always weather. that's why check out a climateconversation.com which is the documentary it's a project of walt johnson which i have the great honor to be the moderator on that but he just wanted to have a good socratic conversation about this narrative around climate so check out a climateconversation.com you can watch it for free And we've created and recorded some great podcasts to go with that from some very influential scientists and experts. And so do check that out at climateconversation.com. So I wanted to start with this. 1879, the January record of 13 inches of snow falls in New York City, and that was broken on January 7th in 1996. So here we go over a century, all this different weather. And it's important that we understand that. In 1883, the Pendleton Act creates the basis of the U.S. civil service system. And that goes into a headline that I'll talk about a little bit later. And that is from the New York Post. The Interior Department overpaid workers by up to four hundred thousand dollars in taxpayer funds after they wrongly claimed to be in D.C. And this is a watchdog tells Senator Ernst. And so this all started with the civil service system back in 1883. Another, and again, I'm going to connect the dot for you on temperature. 1889, 128 degrees Fahrenheit was recorded in Clonklery, Queensland in Australia. And I'm going to fast forward to another headline. And that was in 2019. The Australian Bureau of Meteorology tweets, last four days were the country's hottest on record. in Tarkula, South Australia, reaching 120 degrees Fahrenheit, and then in Port Augusta, 119 degrees Fahrenheit. But we have to go back, and here we are finding in 1889, there were these very hot temperatures. And, of course, they're ignoring that because that does not play into the narrative of man-made climate change because we didn't have all of our combustion engines in 1889, and we did not have as many people in 1889. And so it's important that we know our history. 1919, the 18th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution authorizing the prohibition of alcohol is ratified by a majority of the U.S. states. And I thought this was an important thing to realize. In 1941, U.S. Vice Admiral Bellinger warns of an assault on Pearl Harbor. So this is January of 1941. That attack occurred in December. And in a way, it seems like it's deja vu all over again. And I'm thinking about these Colorado or California fires. That there were many, I think, people that realized that California was getting itself into a very dangerous situation regarding their mismanagement or no management because of environmentalist hands off policies on climate. brush, cleaning up brush. And we need to, I think, listen, start to be a little bit smarter, be prepared. And so again, 1941, they were already realizing that we might have an attack. This is another weather event that I thought was interesting. 1943, negative 60 degrees Fahrenheit at the Island Park Dam in Idaho. That's a state record. And when temperatures are that cold, we would like a little bit of global warming. And then lastly, in 1973, this started to really change things. Scientists at Corning Glass granted a U.S. patent for optical fiber, which was invented in August of 1970, beginning a telecommunications revolution. And it certainly did. We have these conversations because of our sponsors. One of those is Hooters Restaurants. They have five locations, Loveland, Aurora, Lone Tree, Westminster, and Colorado Springs. and a great place to get together to watch games. It's going to be a big football weekend, as well as to get together with friends for lunch Monday through Friday. They have great specials or happy hour, and you can check all that out at my website, how I got to know them. Very important story about freedom and free markets and capitalism and pesky PBIs, politicians, bureaucrats, and interested parties that like to use their power To try to control our lives. So that's why it is a really important story about all of that. So I think I will mention, let's go ahead and take a look at this headline here from the New York Post. And we had talked a little bit about this and I was at a Christmas party. where I was sitting next to someone who was a former civil service employee, and he said that one of the reasons, and Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy have said that they are going to try to make government more efficient, And also I'd like to see government much smaller. I'd like to see government back in the proper role that it is supposed to be playing in our lives. But one of the things they're saying is that they want to have employees go back to the office. And so this is super interesting. And what he said is that many of the government employees don't want to go back to the office. And the reason is because they don't live in the city where they were working. And many of these cities, these employees get a pay bump because they're living in more expensive areas. And so some of these people have moved to less expensive areas, but yet are getting that pay bump. And this is going to shed light on this. So it goes on to say here, the Interior Department overpaid dozens of employees to the tune of up to $400,000 of taxpayer money after the Fed workers improperly claimed to be based in the D.C. area, but were actually scattered all over the U.S. At least 48 government employees were found to have been inappropriately working in outside the capital region despite benefiting from these higher pay rates, which is meant for employees based in and around Washington, which I'm not sure I think that's a great idea. And so moving these bureaucracies, either getting rid of them or moving them out of Washington, D.C., would save us money right there. But this was according to a report from the department's Office of Inspector General in response to a review request by Senator Joni Ernst, a Republican of Iowa. says that 40 employees assigned to interior headquarters didn't report at least twice per pay period in fiscal year 2023 the bare minimum needed to get locality pay according to the watchdog report as a result the oig report reads we estimate doi paid as much as 401 000 in annualized locality payments that may not have been allowable In 2023, employees based in D.C. and surrounding areas received a 33.94% bump from their base pay due to the cost of living in the capital region. Only those located in and around Houston, 35%, Los Angeles, 36.47%, New York City, 37.95%, and San Francisco, 46.34%, got more generous increases. And so it's going to be important to shed light on this because this is basically, I would say, defrauding the taxpayer. And let's see. And another zip code, it looks like in the Denver area that there are those in Denver that receive locality pay as well. So I think this is going to be really interesting to watch this story. And again, that I think that is one of the reasons why there may be some of those employees, government employees that don't want to go back to the office. And so next thing I know with these fires, we are going to have a conversation with Roger Mangan regarding insurance coverage. We've talked a lot about this regarding insurance coverage in these states. Areas where there's great fire risk and and apparently some of these major insurance companies had canceled some of these policies in California within within the last year. And this is also putting insurance companies, though, in a really difficult position because PBIs, politicians, bureaucrats and interested parties, and many of those interested parties might be these radical environmentalist activist groups. have really set hands off on managing our forests and our grasslands. And when that happens, then these fires become more intense and more devastating. And so a lot of this goes back to making sure that we're being good stewards of our earth. But Roger Mangan has been taking care of his clients for 48 years. And he and his team realize that there may be ways that you might be able to save money on your insurance coverage. The only way you'll find out is to give them a call at 303-795-8855. And a couple of things on that. You might be able to bundle your insurance together. And also, the longer that you're with them, many times you'll get discounts as well. So give them a call at 303-795-8855. Like a good neighbor. The Roger Mangan team is there.
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And welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is KimMonson.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMonson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice. We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And big news yesterday, I saw this come across the wire, and that is that Israel and Hamas, this is from CNN World, Israel and Hamas have agreed to a deal that will pause the war in Gaza and see the release of Israeli hostages held in the enclave and Palestinians held in Israeli custody. Of course, I guess it's a three-phase deal. It's set to begin Sunday, but many of its details and the timeline remain unclear. It is yet to be approved by the Israeli cabinet and Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, and he said he won't officially comment until all the details are finalized. And the CNN report goes on to say the agreement was brokered with an almost unprecedented level of cooperation between the Biden and Trump camps, a senior U.S. official said. U.S. President Joe Biden said talks will go beyond the temporary ceasefire to a phase two that could include a permanent end of the war. Now, I saw some of our headlines where the Biden administration is wanting to take credit for this and say, I guess, first of all, we should just be grateful that this is happening. And I think the Biden administration has had a whole lot of time to broker this deal. I've got to think the fact that Donald Trump is going to be inaugurated on Monday may have a lot to do with this. But this indeed is great news. And and we pray for it. We pray for peace. And when Donald Trump was president, we did not have all of the bad guys rattling their sabers all over the world. And so hopefully we are going to have a much better. safer, more peaceful world here as we look into 2025. I know so many of us are so hopeful about what 2025 will bring opportunity. We've got a lot of work to do, though, because as we have seen and as the Biden administration is out the door, they are really putting in place so many different things that will make it difficult and more time consuming to unwind them. as Trump and his team takes over, is inaugurated as president. Next thing that, and I was at an event last night and ended up talking with a Denver police officer, and we both were aghast regarding these slashings that happened in downtown Denver during the weekend. And there were four people that were attacked with someone with a knife, and two of them died. And in the initial reports that I had, I find it so interesting that they left out kind of a key thing, and that is that they referred in the initial piece that I reported on that it was a Hispanic woman that had been stabbed and she eventually died. which I'm sure that's true. She was of Hispanic heritage. But I think what's really important to realize, and we talked a little bit about it yesterday, was that she was an American Airlines flight attendant. And how... tragic that you are on a layover. You decide to go down to the 16th Street Mall, which used to be a lot of fun. And she is attacked and dies from those wounds. And Denver is no longer safe. Apparently, Denver Mayor Mike Johnston did a press conference down on the 16th Street Mall. and that guy's really out of touch he doesn't really understand what i don't think what's going on because i i think he's one of those young guys that has was really indoctrinated uh through our education system through the political system and he doesn't understand the proper role of government one of the first things that is is that we have safe communities And he continues to do things that make our communities less safe. So this particular article, this is from CBS Colorado. It says that people who work in downtown Denver say they don't feel safe despite the crime drop. and what we are learning is well i'm getting we're getting to the point where we don't under that we don't really believe any of the statistics they're coming from government agencies because uh they say that crime is down but what's happening is a lot of crime is not even being reported so if the crime is not reported then crime will be down because it's not being reported And people, when you see headlines like this, four people, this was late afternoon, early evening, 16th Street Mall, on the weekend. This beautiful city that I loved has become dirty and dangerous, and it's because of radical activist extremist policies that are being pushed forward by the Democrats that have taken over the Democrat Party. This Democrat Party is not the party that of JFK nor your grandfather and your grandmother. So when people just blindly vote for Democrats, this is what we get. And so this CBS article says, in downtown Denver, crime rates may be down, but for those who work and live in the area, the reality on the streets often feels different. Recent statistics show a significant reduction in violent incidents, including shootings and homicides in Denver. However, as locals share their stories, it's clear that safety is still a growing concern for many who call downtown Denver home. Many longtime employees say the nature of crime has shifted in more concerning ways. It says recent data shows a 23% reduction in shootings, a decline in homicides, and a 55% decrease in drug-related offenses. However, following a stabbing over the weekend that killed two people and injured two others, City officials are stepping up security along areas like the 16th Street Mall, the incident which officials have called a random act of violence, which has sparked increased patrols in the weeks and months ahead. And while I think that's a good idea, that's just putting a Band-Aid on what the real problems are here in Denver, and that is terrible public policy. And that can take us right to this next article regarding drugs in our society, in our community. But Mayor Mike Johnston, this is from the Diverite, he vetoes a bill to make – A needle exchange. Hold on here. You know what? I think I got this. I might have gotten this wrong here. It says, OK, I'll read this. The mayor said the ordinance was the wrong solution at the wrong time. Just a day after Denver City Council voted to have more needle exchange sites throughout the city. But it seems like the other thing. It says the changes proposed by Bill 24 1791 were simple. Remove the limit to how many needle exchange programs could operate and allow the sites to open within 1000 feet of schools and daycare without exempt without the need for exemptions. I apologize, my friends. I got that turned around. I thought that the city council had passed a ordinance to. uh to prevent these uh needle exchange sites from being in by school so i guess i should i need to say congratulations to uh mike johnston for vetoing that because i think that's really important uh our kids our kids are so under attack in so many different ways and um Regarding Denver and crime and homelessness, one of the major problems is addiction and, of course, making it easier for people to continue with their addictions and not help them to really get that turned around is one of the reasons. Again, it's a radical activist extremist policy. And one other thing, I was talking with a friend of mine that lives in Denver And this was a headline that I had not gotten to you guys yet, and that is that in Denver there's now going to be a sidewalk tax. And, of course, if you live on a corner, you're going to pay a lot more in tax. And that seems to me like another assault upon property rights. Not only had Denver gotten a big bump in property taxes with this – increase of assessed valuation. But now another ding for people that own their homes in Colorado or in Denver is that they're going to have to be paying a sidewalk tax. It seems like they're coming at private property owners every which way. And the real assault is to try to get rid of people being able to own their own property. And property rights are inherent within the American idea. So it's really important. And I really do think that we are at the tip of the spear on all of the things that are occurring here. And so it's important to have these discussions. We have them because of our sponsors for everything residential real estate. And she is working diligently to protect private property rights is Karen Levine with REMAX Alliance.
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Welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is KimMonson.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMonson.com as well. And do check out the USMC Memorial Foundation's website. That is USMCMemorialFoundation.org. And make sure that you add into your giving this year a contribution to the USMC Memorial Foundation as they are raising the money for the Marine Memorial, which is located here in Colorado. It is the official Marine Memorial. It was dedicated in 1977. It's time for a facelift. And you can help them do that by contributing at usmcmemorialfoundation.org. Please have on the line with me a great sponsor of the show, and that is Bob Boswell with Laramie Energy. And my friends, it is reliable, efficient, affordable and abundant energy that powers our lives, fuels our hopes and dreams and helps us control our own personal climates. And that comes from one of the main sources is natural gas. We've got a lot of natural gas here in Colorado. But we've seen it under a legislative and regulatory attack. And, of course, with Donald Trump being inaugurated on Monday and Chris Wright has been tapped as his energy secretary, we've got a lot going on. So I thought, let's talk to Bob Boswell. Bob, welcome to the show.
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Good morning, Kim. Thank you.
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Well, there is a lot going on. And Colorado, though, I think with the legislature in session, I'm very concerned about what they're going to try to do regarding our energy sector. And what I've realized is that because of reliable, efficient, affordable and abundant energy, that we can control our own personal climate to be warm when it's cold outside, to be cool when it's hot outside. And that is really under attack, our energy sources such as natural gas, which we have in abundance in Colorado, Bob Boswell.
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Yes, we do. And it's unfortunate that we're being inhibited from developing at a rate that it should be developed. We often refer to it death by a thousand cuts. And you earlier were talking about taxes. Well, the governor is going around the Tabor Act, which requires a vote to increase taxes by putting fees in. And they've done, at last count I saw, was 23 fees. The latest one was affecting oil and gas production, where the fee on every unit of production that takes several hundreds of millions of dollars out of the ability to develop hurts the economics and further subverts monies that could be going to the counties where the state's coming ahead of it by putting these fees in. The money that can go to the counties.
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Well, and then there's also fees that I just don't think that we should have because what it's doing is making it more expensive for exploration and development. And then that just plays out as we are trying to live our lives and create our businesses, make our businesses work. If you're taking money out of our pockets because of higher energy costs and then that makes it more difficult for people and entrepreneurs. And so it's just a big circle, Bob Boswell.
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Well, they're taking money away from the people. That's taking freedoms away from the people. It's centralized government. It's more socialetic than it is democratic, and that's what we have in the state of Colorado. Unfortunately, we're following the path of California, and we're seeing what's happened in California by their abuse and misdirection of their energy policies. Part of the fires have been caused because of the lines, the utilities have been constrained capitalized on improving some of their facilities and the power lines. So, you know, it just builds on itself. And unfortunately, we're seeing that in Colorado. We're seeing it in Denver. You know, with us being a sanctuary city, people just have to open their eyes. They can see what we have a lot of immigrants now at stoplights. wanting to be paid to wash your car windows. We see fentanyl. We see drug abuse. We see downtown greatly evacuated with people going out the suburbs just simply because of these misguided policies.
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Well, and I used to love to go downtown, Bob Boswell, and I avoided it as much as possible because the city that I loved has become dangerous and dirty, and it's because of public policy. It's important that people connect those dots. It's because of bad public policy by radical activists. It's not just only in the energy sector, but that's what we want to talk about, but it's across the board. And so we will be watching what is happening and informing people with the Colorado Union of Taxpayers, which is a non-volunteer organization that I'm the president. I'm serving as the president at this time. We're going to have an event on January 23rd at CATA, which is close in parking. It's safe. We're at 290 East Spear, and CADA is the Colorado Automobile Dealers Association. But we're going to be watching things and informing people, Bob, on different pieces of legislation that affect us from taxes and fees and TABOR and property rights and school choice, all those things. And so I'll just make our quick plug to check out the website. That's coloradotaxpayer.org. Join us. It's only $25. And you're going to receive hours and hours and hours of volunteer analysis of what's happening down at the statehouse. But there's a lot of hope on the national level with Donald Trump and his inauguration on Monday and Chris Wright as his energy secretary. So what are you hearing in the industry on that? Whoops. I'm wondering if Bob muted his phone or did we lose him, Joe? I'm not sure there. You know what? Let's do let's go to break. And when we come back, we'll make sure that we have Bob Boswell on the line. And this show comes to you because of our sponsors. One of those is Lorne Levy for Everything Mortgages.
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welcome back to the kim Monson show be sure and check out our website that is kim Monson mon son.com sign up for our weekly email newsletter you can email me at kim kimmonson.com as well thank you to all of you who support us we're an independent voice we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force force versus freedom if something's a good idea you should not have to force people to do it pleased to have on the line with me ceo of laramie energy And apparently we're doing some new technology things here at the station, and so we've had some technical difficulties, so I apologize. Bob, I had set this up regarding Trump's inauguration. Chris Wright, who is the head of Liberty Energy, is now going to be the head of the Department of Energy. So on a federal level, there's some really good things going on. What are you hearing, Bob Boswell?
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, I think the Trump administration coming in, along with Chris Wright, who is probably one of the smartest individuals I've been around in terms of his knowledge from an engineering, financial, policy standpoint. I don't know if you're aware Chris has written a small book called Bettering Human Lives, where he goes into many of the factual elements of energy, the production of it, where it is in the world, the number of people that can be positively impacted by a consistent, coherent policy that includes not only fossil fuels but also nuclear. So I see a dawning of a new era. I think it's going to be exceptionally good for the country. I hope it will be positive for Colorado that there is not the continued resistance and over-regulation implementation of excessive testing. on the oil and gas industry. So I'm very positive about Chris's appointment and with the new administration coming in.
SPEAKER 12 :
Bob, what about and I've said it's basically it seems like a lot of marbles that the Biden administration is trying to put in front of the Trump administration as they're on their way out the door. They've said that there will be a smooth transition. But I continue to see headlines about could be monument designations going. conservation areas that ultimately i think would put some of this federal land off limits for oil and gas uh exploration and development grazing all kinds of things and uh it seems like that that i continue to see headlines like that what what's your thoughts on that bob boswell
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, that has been happening under Biden and Polis both. I mean, it's not only the federal government, but it's also the state government that's been doing the same thing, trying to take lands away from development, from agricultural to energy. So it's been a theme for the past several years, and it's work against the state. It's work against our communities. They are trying to implement a disproportionately impacted communities in the state of Colorado, which would prohibit development in certain areas that they believe the counties are impoverished or below the poverty level, and they talk about the effects of on the environment without taking into consideration the negative effects on the economy. So it's a totally backwards policy. It's in the process of being implemented. Unfortunately, you know, it's the front range with their idealistic misunderstanding. of energy and economics that are driving these absurd numbers of new policies being implemented to try and regulate the economic development of the state, not only in energy but health care. I mean, it's almost every industry that's being affected. It's simply wrong. You know, one of the things, Kim, is on the western slope, over 70 percent of that land is federal. And the federal government has always looked at states' rights and let states dictate certain elements of development. But they've completely overstepped that. On federal lands, I think with this new administration, the federal government will more strongly assert its ownership, the public's ownership of these federal lands and try to work with, I think, more assuredness on allowing these lands to be developed for the benefit of the overall public.
SPEAKER 12 :
Okay, so that's going to be interesting, Bob, as you're mentioning that. So federal lands in Colorado, does Colorado laws, do they have jurisdiction over those federal lands regarding oil and gas development, or how does that work?
SPEAKER 15 :
Yes, they do. They have jurisdiction over its federal lands. And what they've tried to do... is to work with the state governments on good policies on the use and development of these lands. But what we've seen is that the state government's putting regulations on federal lands that work against the development of the minerals and assets on federal lands. And so there needs to be more of a balance, and our federal lands ought to have federal policies in terms of development and use of that property as opposed to being overridden by state policies that work against the development of these federal lands.
SPEAKER 12 :
Okay. And then I wanted to go back to what you just talked about, these impoverished or poor areas that this legislation was passed regarding that they might be disproportionately affected by, I guess, air quality, by environmental things. And so they're making it more difficult for oil and gas development in those areas. But oil and gas jobs are good-paying jobs. So it looks to me like they're limiting the opportunity for good-paying jobs in areas where they say that people don't have as much economic opportunity. Am I hearing you that correctly?
SPEAKER 15 :
Yes, they are absolutely limiting it. And what they don't realize is that all areas, people come from those areas to work in the oil and gas industry. I mean, we have people that commute 50 miles a day to come to their oil and gas jobs, and they may be in a community that is under the definition of the state, disproportionately impacted, and they are affected. limiting development in those areas, and they're going to limit development in the state, which will further hurt the economy and employment numbers. You know, we've seen this latest tax, this latest fee, they call it a fee, it's a tax, taking money away from development of oil and gas, and the money's going into creating a transit system, a train system for the front range. So in the western slope, which is predominantly natural gas production, we're paying money for the development of a train for the front range. And if it were, you know, if this were described as a tax and the people voted on it and it was approved, that's one thing. Unilaterally, you call it a fee just to centralize and get more power to the state government taking away freedoms from people. You know, we would not have a problem.
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, and the trains, we talked about Denver, but people are not riding the trains because they're dirty and dangerous as well. And people really like the safety of their personal vehicles. They like the freedom to go where they want to, when they want to. Now, traffic certainly is an issue, and I get that, but that's because people... They are voting with their own personal vehicles. We sit in traffic. I went up to the National Western last night, and it took a while to get there because of traffic. But I don't begrudge traffic because I love the freedom of mobility. Now, granted, it might take longer to get from point A to point B, but this idea, if I would have tried to get to the National Western by going by train and bus, It would have taken hours and hours more, Bob Boswell. And so these, I call them PBIs, politicians, bureaucrats, and interested parties, they have this dream of everybody but them riding around on trains and buses and bicycles and walking. um and taking money to push that that agenda where people are saying no i really i appreciate my own personal vehicle and i feel safe and i would like to keep that and not be forced to ride around on these trains but they can they're continuing to double down on this whole idea well i mean it's a another example of ignorance i mean what you know they've
SPEAKER 15 :
want to defund the police, and those police are what can provide security on the trains, on the mass transit, and those sorts of things. So it's just backwards. It's totally backwards, and people need to have the freedom of choice. If they'd rather go in their own vehicle as opposed to try to navigate a public transit system, that's their right. But we're being, you know, trying to legislate and invest and put money into projects that won't have an economic realization and are not going to be utilized at the level it would be if they had sufficient security. And if they hadn't let in so many illegal immigrants and which has brought with them some of the drug and crime problems.
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, I was also thinking about illegal immigrants, and as we're driving up and down, as I drive up and down the I-25 corridor, I see all of these four- and five-story apartment buildings, which I hadn't realized it, but this, again, is another public policy effect. When talking with Lauren Levy with mortgages and Karen Levine, is that the federal government had been making it more favorable for developers to build these rental units from a financing standpoint. And then we also saw grants, government grants that might go into some of these projects. And then on the local and county level, there might be streamlining of projects. of regulations. And that's not a real free market. And it just seems that we have this public policy that's trying to take away our freedom of choice on where we live, what we drive, all those kinds of things. And a lot of it then goes back to what you and I talk about regarding Natural gas here in Colorado, natural gas development, natural gas is clean, it's affordable, and the attack upon that is actually an attack upon everyday people as they are trying to live their lives, heat their homes, keep their homes cool in the summer. All of that is under attack because they're making it more and more expensive through all this public policy, fees, regulations, all of that about Boswell.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, they're taking money from taxpayers to subsidize a problem they created, which is the mass immigration that's occurred over the last four years to provide housing for these people who have come in illegally. So, you know, again, it's taking money. Money from the people who are working, paying taxes and subverting it into and underwriting their misgotten policies. And through this, provide housing, cell phones, a monthly stipend to people who have come here illegally. And that's that's just wrong. But why do we have a border if they're just going to allow people to come in, many of which are associated or a portion of which are associated with cartels, and they're bringing in more fentanyl, adding to the drug problem we already have and some of the crime that's empowered by virtue of these people coming in and not having employment and looking at different ways to work. Gain money and access through, you know, robberies, stealing things, trying to remarket and things of that nature.
SPEAKER 12 :
And as you mentioned that, over the holidays, I was at one of the grocery stores and I was at Whole Foods. And right on the corner, there was a... a family there was a father who looked like he was very capable of working and holding a job and then sitting in three lawn chairs there was uh his his wife i assume with a baby and two teenage girls and he had a sign asking for money and the two teenage girls were on cell phones and i thought what is wrong with this picture here's a um able working able-bodied man that could be working, begging, but yet how is it that the teenage girls have cell phones? And then everyday people, young people here are working hard just to try to keep it together who grew up in America. So there's a lot of challenges that we have. Bob, I appreciate what the energy sector does for Colorado, and that's why I'm really pleased to have you as a sponsor as well so we can shed light on this. But I do see some great hope with the inauguration of Donald Trump, and we're going to continue to work on Colorado here to reclaim this beautiful state because I think people are waking up to this bad public policy, and we're going to work to reclaim this state that we all love.
SPEAKER 15 :
I hope so, and I believe that's what will occur.
SPEAKER 12 :
I do as well. And so, Bob, I really do appreciate you shedding light on all this, and we'll talk again next month after the inauguration of Donald Trump, and we'll know a little bit more about what's happening at this Colorado State Legislature as well. But again, Bob Boswell, CEO of Laramie Energy, thank you for reliable, efficient, affordable, and abundant energy. Greatly appreciate that. And our quote for the end of the show, it's a little long. And as I mentioned, I was looking for things, quotes regarding some humor. And Bob Hope is an entertainer, comedian. But I had mentioned that he would go and entertain the troops. And as you all know, I have such a deep appreciation for our troops. And that's, again, while I do want to mention the Center for American Values, they've got an important event on January 23rd. And it's regarding the USS Pueblo that was taken captive by the North Koreans. And Bob Chica, who was one of those prisoners, will be speaking. But this is what and that website is AmericanValueCenter.org. Bob Hope said this regarding going into the war zones. He said, I was there. I saw your sons and your husbands, your brothers and your sweethearts. I saw how they worked, played, fought and lived. I saw some of them die. I saw more courage, more good humor in the face of discomfort, more love in an era of hate, and more devotion to duty than could ever exist under tyranny. So my friends today, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals, and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you, and God bless America.
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SPEAKER 05 :
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SPEAKER 08 :
It's the Kim Monson Show, analyzing the most important stories.
SPEAKER 12 :
And it's not. Today's Current Opinions and Ideas. I see big danger in as much as we will be giving an unelected bureaucrat the power to make rules about what we inject into our bodies.
SPEAKER 08 :
Is it freedom or is it force? Let's have a conversation.
SPEAKER 12 :
Indeed. Let's have a conversation. And welcome to our number two of the Kim Monson Show. Thank you so much for joining us. You're each treasured, you're valued, you have purpose today. Strive for excellence. Take care of your heart, your soul, your mind, and your body. My friends, we were made for this moment in history. And thank you to the team that I get to work with. That's Producer Joe, Luke, Rachel, Zach, Echo, Charlie, Mike, Teresa, all the people here at Crawford Broadcasting. It is Thursday, Producer Joe. Happy Thursday, Kim. and really informative happy thursday to you too joe really informative first hour with bob boswell who is the ceo of laramie energy and just regarding public policy here in colorado and also how this is going to bump up these terrible rules and regulations regarding oil and gas development it's across the board here in colorado And how that's going to rub against the Trump administration. It's going to be super interesting to watch. So I do thank Laramie Energy for their goal sponsorship of the show because it is our independent voice that's shedding light on all of these different things. So let's get to our word of the day, which is germane, G-E-R-M-A-N-E. And it is ideas or information that's germane to a particular subject or situation is connected or important to it. And so it's germane that we talk about how this public policy down at the statehouse and from these bureaucracies here in Colorado, how that is affecting democracy. Really, our freedoms across the board, our freedom of mobility, our freedom to have reliable, efficient, affordable, and abundant energy sources, our freedom to have abundant and affordable food in the grocery store, all of these things are under attack. And so it's germane that we talk about these issues and connect the dots on that. Our quote for the show is from Bob Hope, entertainer and comedian who was born in 2000, excuse me, born in 1903, died in 2003. And he would make comments regarding politics. And he said, no one party can fool all the people all the time. That's why we have two parties. And again, that is Bob Hope. Talking about Denver and Eric, I said I'm glad that, congratulations to Mike Johnson for vetoing this needle exchange bill. And Eric said, Kim, Mike Johnson deserves no congratulations because what is happening to our state It's being done in our state, in our country. So no congratulations. Eric, you know what? I think you're right to have just the possibility of one little sliver of vetoing this particular bill. When we look at Denver is dirty and it's dangerous. And another listener said, I'm wondering if Mike Johnson would let his wife and child retire. go to downtown denver by themselves at night that's a very good question as well and then let's see a couple other things that came in on the text line uh let's see that was all of that and then this came in from one of our listeners she said people out west are very independent Colorado government has tried to condition us to use the trains for 30 years. People in the West simply do not want the trains. I highly doubt that we in Colorado actually voted for this type of transit system. It may look like we voted for it, but we will actually never know because we've really not had a chance to audit our elections. I think that's a really important point. And then another thing this listener said, says, what do you think is going to happen in the mountains in Colorado with all of the dead timber from the pine beetle that were ripe for massive fires? And she's absolutely right. When I went up to Grand Lake for U.S. Constitution Week. I looked at the mountainside, and it was just dead trees. I actually had a friend that had – they had a company that had a proposal to go in and cut down and take some of that – lumber that had those trees that had died because of the pine beetle kill and they were actually go in cut it cut it down and take it and they were then going to I think sell it for maybe some different furniture different things and And when the bureaucrats that they were working with realized that they might potentially make, these individuals might make some money from this dead pine beetle kill, they would not give them the permits to do that. And so there we sit with all of these dead trees in our Colorado mountains. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out there's gonna be some kind of a massive fire. and so this listener went on to say why why do you know why are we letting this happen it goes back to in the first hour when um in our this day in history in 1941 there was a warning from one of the admirals that there might be an attack upon pearl harbor and so we need to be holding uh those in positions to do their job to do their job and so we've got a lot of work to do here in colorado on all of this do check out the colorado union of taxpayers website that is coloradotaxpayer.org we are going to have an event next thursday the 23rd a legislative kickoff event a number of legislators will be there as well as the legislators who we will be giving their awards for their positions on on protecting you the taxpayer you can get more information tickets are just ten dollars each and you can buy those at coloradotaxpayer.org also we'd love to have you join us you will receive our weekly email that we send to legislators and govern the governor regarding legislation and our positions on that so for two dollars and eight cents a month you will receive hours and hours of analysis you'll know what's going on And then you can become active in any of these pieces of legislation that you're concerned about. On the line with me is Karen Levine. She's a REMAX realtor, a good friend of mine, known her for many, many years. And she's been a protector of private property rights at the local, county, state, national level. And owning your own property has become more difficult, again, I think because of public policy. And she's worked diligently to try to protect our opportunity for our own individual home. Karen Levine, welcome. Kim. Yep. It's good to have you here, Karen. And Lauren yesterday said interest rates had gone down just a little bit, which is great. What are you seeing in the home residential market?
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, I would say that the first couple of weekends of the new year were a little more slow than I would have anticipated. But I think Sadly, now that the Broncos, um, did not do well on Sunday, I think we'll see, uh, showings pick up here in the next couple of weekends. And, um, I know I have a couple of new properties coming on the market that, um, are really good, uh, values. Um, they are well cared for homes and I think, um, they will be something that the marketplace is looking for, one being a patio home up in Erie and the other a really lovely first-time home buyer home in Thornton, a three-bedroom, three-bath, two-car garage home priced under $500. So I think things are picking up. We'll pick up with a little bit of drop in interest rates that will entice some buyers to get out in the marketplace. We did have our annual economic summit last week, and I think the overall sentiment is rates are going to stay around this 6.5%, 7% throughout the year, and that that's our new normal. But we're a creative group, and we can get people into housing and good houses, you know, not just to buy a house but to get the right house. So the year is off and running.
SPEAKER 12 :
Okay. And people are probably looking for certain communities. I remember when there was this, again, I think from a public policy standpoint, to try to romance living in downtown Denver. But people probably, are people looking in downtown Denver? But I mean, they're looking in different spots, aren't they?
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, yeah. I'm, you know, there have been those that chose downtown living, a lot of the millennials, for the convenience of being able to walk to work, the downtown vibe, you know, the excitement of downtown. And as our population ages, then they find that suburban living is more to their liking, and so they, you know, move out. I haven't done a lot of work in downtown Denver recently. So I do hear from my colleagues, you know, that things were a little bit slower. And I'm sad to say that I'm sure with what occurred last week with the stabbings, you know, when people don't feel safe, they don't want to live there.
SPEAKER 12 :
Right, and people don't go down there either, which makes it so difficult for great restaurants down there that I continue to see headlines of restaurants closing in downtown Denver as well. And it's public policy that is making this all happen, and you've been so active in public policy. Is there anything ear to the ground now that the legislature is in session that you've heard that people need to be concerned about, or have you anything on that yet?
SPEAKER 13 :
Not yet. Not yet. I do know I did see the briefing from the Colorado Association of Realtors, and they're anticipating that this legislature will be as active or overly active as they were last year with, you know, somewhere in the range of, you know, six to 700 bills, which I'm really not sure why that's what needs to be happening unless it's bills to get rid of bills, get rid of policy. I would say in the forefront of the realtor community, we're going to be looking at and pushing for and advocating, lobbying for construction defect reform, which we have sort of dabbled in, tried to make some changes. But I think the sentiment is if we don't get this rolled back, so it's more attractive for developers and builders to build multifamily ownership units, that being condominiums, We can't bring affordability to our communities. So I know at the state association, those involved in legislative policy will be working diligently on that.
SPEAKER 12 :
Okay. And I guess one other question then on that. What about in these, well, what do you call it, like an ownership unit, like a condo? I know that people have been concerned about the fee, the regular fees for those kinds of... The HOA fees. Yeah, the HOA fees. So what's your comments about that?
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, the cost of living continues to go up, Kim, and the HOA fees... are fees that are set to cover things like insurance on the building, the amenities of the building, the management of, obviously, the homeowners association. And as the cost of everything continues to go up, those fees go up. And you don't get those fees down if the costs of goods and services don't go down. Sure. Colorado's been labeled as a place that insurers don't want to insure. Insurance companies, carriers don't want to be here. And those that are here, their policy fees, their premiums are very, very high. And when a HOA, a condominium community, is providing the insurance on the building, that's where a lot of that cost increase goes. And that's to give those owners' coverage if, you know, there is damage done to those buildings. So one challenge leads to another, right?
SPEAKER 12 :
That it does. But that's why if people are buying or selling a home, looking at a new build, they need to give you a call. What's that number, Karen Levine?
SPEAKER 13 :
The best number to get me a call at is 303-877-7516.
SPEAKER 12 :
And again, that is Karen Levine, 303-8... Say that again. I've had that memorized in here. I just drew a blank on it. So one more time. It's 303-877-7516, right? Yes, ma'am. You got it. Okay. Sounds great. Karen, we will see you next week. Thank you. Uh-huh. Gosh, there is so much going on, and boy, insurance coverage is so important. And so that's why you need to make sure that you know what you have and you have what you want. And the way to find out is to give the Roger Bank and State Farm Insurance team a call, make a complimentary appointment, and you can go over your insurance coverage and that number. You know what? I'm drawing blanks on numbers here all of a sudden. I think it's 303-895- I'm drawing a blank, so let's just listen to the spot.
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SPEAKER 12 :
And welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at Kim Monson dot com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. On the line with me is Pam Long. She is an author here at the Kim Monson Show. And she is also, let me get a little bit more information here regarding Pam Long. She is the director of the Children's Health Defense Military Chapter. She's a graduate of West Point, an Army veteran of the Medical Service Corps, and she served as a medical intelligence officer for NATO. And she's written a piece that we will publish this weekend, Three Ways to Defeat the Colorado Democrat Supermajority, because it's going to be very difficult, I think, down at the statehouse. We're going to talk with Senator Paul Lundeen here in a little bit as well. Pam Long, welcome to the show. Thanks for having me, Kim. And we're off to the races with the Colorado State Legislature. I just took a quick look at our Bill Track 50 with the Colorado Union of Taxpayers, and 147 bills have been introduced already, and they just convened a week ago. So this... This super majority, we've got to figure out ways to help those Republicans that are trying to stand in the gap and hold the line and stop a lot of this bad stuff. And you've got some strategies to do that.
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That's right. I looked at all the 700 bills from last session, and I pulled out what I think are the three best examples of how people can engage to overcome and defeat a bill, despite we do not have the votes in a Democratic supermajority to really kill a bill. So where should we start? I think we should start out with the most, the easiest approach, which is show up in numbers with all your allies in a database report against the bill. And this was really highlighted last year with SB 24-033, which was named the Lodging Property Tax Treatment Bill, which really was, because these bill names are really defective, it was a 400% tax increase on rental properties. We're talking those those residential properties that are used as Airbnbs and VRBOs, this bill aimed to increase taxes from 7%, which is residential rate, to 28%, which is the commercial rate for these short-term property rentals. And it was justified as tax equity, right? Anytime you hear the word equity, red flags should go up immediately. You already know that from your analysis with CUTT. And so they claim that these small private homes should be taxed just like large hotels with these higher consumption rates of public services. Well, of course, this was one of the most controversial bills last session. And Clara, the Colorado Lodging and Resort Alliance, really just knocked it out of the park in defeating this bill. So three things they did. First, Clara organized a survey of 2,500 rental homeowners and published an economic impact study. This study found that most rental homeowners would either evade this tax by renting less than 90 days or they would stop renting completely. And this would have an economic impact of over $1 billion and eliminate over 8,000 tourism jobs here in Colorado. A very powerful report. So second, Clara reached out to their rental network and had a media campaign to communicate the findings of this economic impact study, which would be devastating to our tourism here in Colorado. And third, Clara coordinated an advocacy day at the Capitol and 150 people, most of these just average people, just Citizens who rent a property, a second home, wearing blue shirts, very coordinated, and giving opposition materials to legislators. So the key takeaways from this strategy were economic evidence and personal engagement. But I think this bill also highlighted a common flawed origin of Colorado legislation, which is lack of stakeholder process with the public prior to introduction and lack of analysis of impact prior to introduction.
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, we see a lot of that. And the other thing is, is I really don't think these legislators should be voting on anything that they have not read completely. I think that would slow things down. But so the strategy then is because what happens, Pam, is there are interested parties that are basically coming up with these ideas for legislation. And then the bills are written up. And so many of the legislators don't really know what's in there. So explaining this from the survey, the economic evidence, the showing up. That it is a it's a commitment to show up down there because and I've seen a strategy also where they will extend these different hearing meetings, these different committee hearing meetings. And if there's a lot of people that have shown have shown up for a particular bill that the extremist Democrats are trying to push through, then they might put that particular hearing for that bill forward. Later in the committee hearing, people have to pay for parking. It is a real commitment to show up, Pam Long.
SPEAKER 14 :
It is a commitment, Kim, and they often will reschedule last minute, you know, a very contentious bill hearing with lots of people showing up to jerk people around. Oh, it was supposed to be at noon, but now it's at like 5 p.m. Now you're you're you're staying the night at the Capitol, which I have done many times. But I will say, because I want to leave more optimistic here in twenty twenty five. There is solidarity in that. I have made so many friendships and strengthened so many relationships with legislators during those times where I'm like, okay, I'm camped out here all night here at the Capitol. So take advantage, you know. We're going to make lemonade out of lemons this year.
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, and it really is helpful for the legislators that are trying to hold the line to see people there that are supporting them. I think that it kind of feeds on each other, gives legislators courage as well. And I think that that is important because they are supposed to be representatives of the people. And so these strategies are super important. Let's go to break. I'm talking with Pam Long. She has three ways to defeat the Colorado Democrat supermajority. We've talked about number one. And all this happens because of our sponsors. And I was out at the National Western last night and saw some of these beautiful... Just specimens of cattle. They were just spectacular. And I just love this whole industry. And, of course, I love the protein and the great steakhouse experience at home that Lavaca Meat Company provides.
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welcome back to the kim Monson show be sure and check out our website that is kim Monson m-o-n-s-o-n.com sign up for our weekly email newsletter you can email me at kim kimmonson.com as well on the line with me is pam long and she writes very important pieces that we publish at the kim monson show she is a graduate of west point and she's an army veteran with the medical army medical service corps and she was a medical intelligence officer for nato and she's written a piece how we can push back on bad legislation that's proposed down at the state house but pam long before we get to that as you know you and i both love the center for american values in pueblo it's located on the the riverwalk there they have these beautiful uh portraits of valor of many of our medal of honor recipients as well as quotes by each of them But they're going to be doing a really great event on the 23rd. It's an on values presentation regarding the USS Pueblo, which was taken captive in the Vietnam War by the North Koreans. And the crew was held captive for over a year. But I know that you have a real heart for the Center for American Values as well.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, Kim, even as you say that, I'm like, wow, I need to know more about that battle. Even as a West Point grad with lots of history, military history, lots of knowledge of our Medal of Honor winners, even I have so much yet to learn about preserving that history of our country and our heroes.
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, we really do. And so this particular, they have an exhibit that's open on January 2nd regarding Pueblo Remembers, regarding the USS Pueblo. And the online event is the 23rd. And Bob Chica, who was a crew member and held captive for a year, will be presenting. Unfortunately, I can't make it because I will be at the legislative kickoff for the Colorado Union of Taxpayers. And, of course, I'm pleased about that. But I've tried to be in two places at the same time. Can't do it. So more information about the Center for American Values, check out AmericanValuesCenter.org. More information about the Colorado Union of Taxpayers, go to ColoradoTaxpayer.org. And so let's continue on. You've got three strategies on things that can be done to try to stop some of this radical legislation that will very likely be proposed and headed to hearing here this legislative session. So what's number two?
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, the second strategy is to hire a lawyer to preemptively draft a legal challenge to any bill that violates our rights. I've seen this play out in so many different ways that I really want to highlight SB 24184, which is Support Surface Transportation Infrastructure Development from last session, which is really the bill, the deceptive title. It's a rental car tax as seed money for passenger rail systems that taxpayers did not authorize. And so what has happened throughout the legislative session, the American Rental Car Association drafted their legal challenge against this bill even before it was signed into law. And sometimes that is enough. A legal challenge, I've seen many examples where lawyers get involved and say, look, you push this bill through, we will take you to court. And that is enough for the bill to be withdrawn. In this case, it was not. This bill went into effect January 1st, 2025, which is a $3 a day what they call congestion impact fee on rental cars. And we all know that Colorado leaves the nation in extreme taxation, and we renamed these fees to circumvent taxpayer approval fees. These are taxes. So the case claims, the lawsuit claims that SB 184 violates federal law. And this is a national organization. It doesn't have to be a national organization. It can be federal. grassroots group, it could be a state organization. And so according to Colorado Public Radio, I will quote them, but through its lawsuit, the association is continuing to make the same argument now that it made when the legislation was being debated, that federal laws, including the 2018 Federal Aviation Administration Reauthorization Act, makes new rental car fees illegal if, among other reasons, they apply to airport-based rentals and the revenue is used for non-airport purposes, end quote from CPR. So potentially Colorado is imposing a tax, which they're calling a fee, which violates federal law, and this will play out in the courts. And essentially the American Rental Car Association is saying, you are making us the middleman to impose an illegal fee on people. And this is not – $3 a day ends up being $50 million. This is no small chunk of change here. So my takeaway here is that a legal challenge can deter or halt an illegal tax, but can also deter many types of other bills which violate the rights of citizens. And this can be accomplished. Retainers for lawyers can be accomplished through your networks. It could be everyone in your group that's being targeted could donate $25 a year to a legal fund, and then you build this war chest, and then when that bill comes that you know is coming to attack citizens, your industry, you now have a war chest to take them to court.
SPEAKER 12 :
So as you mentioned that, Pam Long, I'm thinking about the Colorado Union of Taxpayers, and we would really like to get our membership up to 1,000 people, and it's just $25. And if we do that, I could see that we might be able to then do just the strategy that you're mentioning, because we would have funds that we could then actually have some of these things drafted. And I hadn't really thought about that until right now you mentioned that. So please, I would really encourage people to join us just for $25 a year, because I think that we might be able to do some of that, I think. What's your thoughts on that, Pam?
SPEAKER 14 :
100%. I mean, I've seen the homeschoolers do this very effectively. The reason why we have a powerful and strong homeschool network and rights are HSLDA, the Homeschool Legal Defense Association, has come to bat so many times, not just with our governor, with legislation, but at the state health department, which is out of control. And it's because members pay $25 a year for protection of their homeschool rights and They have been able to protect our homeschoolers for over the past decade that I'm aware of probably much longer.
SPEAKER 12 :
Okay. And then this came in on the text line. Jenny said that we could actually rent for these pieces of legislation, we could rent party buses and take a whole bunch of people down to the statehouse. I think that's a great idea. And that goes back to your first idea on making sure that we can show up. I love that idea. What do you think?
SPEAKER 14 :
I love that idea. I love safety in numbers because Kim highlighted in the first show with the recent stabbings that Denver is not safe. I just want to say that Denver is not safe. As a person who used to travel there on a daily basis to be in our capital, I am very careful. I go at coordinated times. I meet with people in parking lots. And when I exit that building, somebody is walking me to my car at night.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yes, and it's not safe because of public policy. So let's talk about number three, though, regarding ways to push back on this legislation that's proposed by the super Democrat extreme majority.
SPEAKER 14 :
Okay, number three is organize to recall bill sponsors. When I'm talking recall, I'm meaning actually recall them from their elected position, that use of the word recall. So I want to highlight my HB 24-12-92, which was named prohibit certain bills used in mass shootings. This was the semi-automatic firearms ban, which Democrats call an assault weapons ban, which is just a very vague term for all guns. So 1292 was an assault weapons ban which passed the House last year after failing the previous year. They celebrated this as a very historic accomplishment. But in a Dramatic halt of momentum, bill sponsor Senator Julie Gonzalez, a Democrat, withdrew the bill from the Senate or postponed it indefinitely, and the bill died. And so when you read most of the news reports, Gonzalez was quoted as just congratulating the House for passing the bill and expressing her commitment to some future assault weapons ban, which we already see in session now. After more discussion with various groups was her vague reasoning for withdrawing the bill. Well, this sounded suspicious to me, so I read almost every article in 1292, and the Gazette reported a little gem that I think we should all be paying attention to. This is potentially the real reason why the bill died. I'm going to quote the Gazette from last year in May. A decade ago, two lawmakers were ousted in the state's first recall elections over their support for bills that set limits on ammunition magazines and expanded background checks. That history, I think, lingers, said Democratic State Senator Julie Gonzalez, one of the semi-automatic ban bill sponsors. She added that the proposal's success in the House signals that there is a new space for us to have different conversations, end quote from the Gazette. This statement by Gonzalez indicates that the Democratic supermajority is cautious of recalls. Regardless of what you think of our election system and election integrity, they're still being very cautious, whether it's statewide or in certain districts or in certain candidates. We don't know. Therefore, the Democrats, they're incrementally advancing their gun control agenda with several bills each year under Governor Polis instead of this over swift removal of Second Amendment rights. The average person in the public is unaware that this is happening. We're not putting this on the nightly news that, hey, we're just taking a slow incremental removal of your Second Amendment rights. So my key takeaway here is that the opposition to the supermajority is underutilizing recalls. And not all recalls will be successful, but these campaigns, they drain time, resources, reputation of the party involved. So recalls also bring public attention to overstepping of rights within the legislature that most citizens are not aware of. And this would create needed backlash to reform the party.
SPEAKER 12 :
Okay, and how does one go about organizing a recall? How would we do that?
SPEAKER 14 :
It's almost like it's a similar process when you're, you know, starting a petition for a ballot initiative. You know, there's lots of rules with the Secretary of State. But we have people who, you know, have organized this before. It's not impossible. It's just, you know, you file a little checklist within the Secretary of State, and we can do this.
SPEAKER 12 :
Okay. Now, it looks to me like Julie Gonzalez is going to be back again this year with another Second Amendment bill regarding our Second Amendment rights, trying to take away our right to protect ourselves and our families against bad guys. And so what's your ear to the ground on that, Pam Long?
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, like I just said, this is their incremental approach to remove the Second Amendment. They can't outright say we're removing your Second Amendment because people would be in the streets rioting. So, again, this is why getting more public attention and recalling some of these bill sponsors. Then they would have to defend their decisions, right, to the public. Right now the public is largely unaware, most people, not you and I, not Kim Monson listeners, but the average citizen has no idea what is going on at the Capitol. And one day they will wake up, potentially, and their rights are removed. And they'll say, wow, how did that happen? Well, it happened over the two terms of governor polis when there were strategies we could have been implementing to stop it. And it's up to us. That time is now.
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, it really is. And with Donald Trump being elected and inaugurated on Monday, I think there's a lot of hope at the federal level that this agenda to the radical activist extremist agenda will be turned around. But what I'm seeing, though, Pam Long, is I think there's a doubling down at the local, the county, and the state level. and particularly here in Colorado. So these strategies that you've come up with are really, really important. One other thing, you and I had a conversation about the Colorado Union of Taxpayers, and you said, Kim, I think you should make sure that people know that being a member of the Colorado Union of Taxpayers and receiving that weekly email of our analysis of all of this different legislation, is a tool that people should have in their toolbox. And being informed is one of the first things that people should do. And it's only $2.08 a month. It averages out. And I know that I think you utilize the Colorado Union of Taxpayers as you're going through analysis with your team.
SPEAKER 14 :
I'm totally using it. It is a great tool. I wish I had this tool 10 years ago because, you know, when I'm doing keyword searches for bills, this is a daunting task because they hide things. As I kind of highlighted today, the bill title is not going to say, hey, we're taking away your Second Amendment rights. That is not going to be in the bill title. And so what you're doing is your team is analyzing every bill and saying, hey, these are – Here's the bill. Here's the bad of it. Here's why you should oppose it. And I have affirmed this tool as, look, this is the heavy lifting. You are doing the hard work for people. You don't have to read 700 bills. They are doing that job for you. You pick people. The issue that keeps you up at night and you engage in one of the ways that we have talked about today. If everyone picked that one issue that keeps them up at night and engaged, we would have no problem with any of these strategies, whether getting 150 people to testify against the bill, whether funding lawyers to fight a lawsuit or organizing people on these recall teams. If everyone picks their one issue. So be a member of cut, become a member. It is $25 is nothing. That is like a month's worth of, you know, your local coffee stops and get engaged to protect Colorado.
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, I appreciate that. And you can do that by going to Colorado taxpayer.org. And we will be rolling out Pam longs, um, position paper here on three ways to defeat the Colorado Democrat supermajority. And that'll be in our weekly email this weekend at the Kim Monson show. So be sure and be signed up for that. And we're planning on having Senate Minority Leader Paul Lundeen on for this last segment. And we want to talk about some of the things that they're doing down at the Statehouse to protect us. And so you want to stay tuned for that. Do check out the USMC Memorial Foundation. Make sure that you have giving to them in your repertoire this 2025. We want to make this a reality to remodel the official Marine Memorial, which is right here in Colorado. More information, go to USMCMemorialFoundation.org. And for everything mortgages and in 49 of the 50 states, just not New York, reach out to Lauren Levy.
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Welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMonson.com as well. Pam Long, who is an author here at the Kim Monson Show, but she's also a graduate of West Point, former captain in the Army Medical Service Corps. He's written a piece about how we as citizens can push back on this Democrat supermajority and bad legislation that is proposed down at the Statehouse. So, Pam, thanks for staying on. And we've got Senate Minority Leader Paul Lundin on the line. They had a great press conference the other day where they have a plan to help families in our state save up to $4,500. That's real money. Senator Lundin, welcome to the show.
SPEAKER 16 :
It's my pleasure to be with you, Kim. You're smarter than average audience. And Pam, glad you're still on as well. Yeah, there's a couple of conversations going on in the state of Colorado right now. The legislative conversation, the conversation down at the state capitol is about, oh, my gosh, the state government is a billion dollars short on meeting its budget. And it needs to do all the things it needs to find every last nickel and penny it can get from the people of Colorado. So the state can be a happy government. The second conversation that's going on in Colorado more broadly is among the people of Colorado, the small businesses of Colorado, the businesses of Colorado. And it is a conversation that says over the last number of years. All these policies, all these hidden taxes, all these fees have brought us to we can't afford to live in Colorado. Housing's out of control. Groceries are out of control. Transportation is not good and it's expensive. And every other day costs of living are just running away from us. So as you correctly identified, the Senate Republican caucus, we've identified and we have rolled out a package of bills where we're going to endeavor to to by reducing regulation, cutting these hidden taxes, rolling back these excessive and idiotic fees, put $4,500 per family back in the pockets of the people of Colorado. That's our goal. We've got bills to do it, and we're pressing forward on that now. Are we going to be met with opposition? Of course. The people that put all these regulations in place that are choking the lifeblood of Colorado out, in fact, will oppose what we have to do. They're there for the government. We're there for the people.
SPEAKER 12 :
And the visual that you have at your press release is amazing. You're standing there with a stack of bills, $4,500, and it's a great visual for people to understand that this is real money that's being taken from them by the government, and this is money that the Senate Republicans are trying to get back into people's pockets. I think it's a very important visual, Senator Lundin.
SPEAKER 16 :
Absolutely, it is. It's interesting, and to be completely candid, it's not actual $1 bills. They're fake $1 bills, but they are the equivalent size $1 bills. Two and a half, three foot tall column of $1 bills totaling up to $4,500. And our plan is... that if the Democrats choose to join us, then that column of $4,500 representing the money we're going to put back in the pockets of the people of Colorado per family, that column will remain the same size. If the Democrats, however, choose to shred... The dollars that should be going back to the people of Colorado, we're going to visually shred an equivalent amount of those fake $1 bills and show the people of Colorado day after day through this 120-day legislative session the impact of Democrat policies having on their pocketbooks.
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, Pam Long, I'm sure you love this idea, yes?
SPEAKER 14 :
I love visuals. They're super effective. And I love the goal of $4,500 to a homeowner in property tax relief. I mean, this is a difference between some people staying in their homes or not staying in their homes.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, absolutely. Some of the Democrat – there's, of course, Democrat blogs out there, and there's organizations that represent themselves to be media. They're not. They're Democrat blogs. They mock us. They say, oh, what's 27? They didn't even get the number right. What's 27 cents per delivery? It's actually now – it was 28. It was 27 when it started. Then it went up to 28. This year it's 29 cents per delivery. What's 29 cents, I would say, to a family? it's $60, $70 a year, and that's real money when you're trying to make ends meet. That's the way we look at it. The other side looks at it differently. And when you cobble together all of these different elements that we put together, you get $4,500. That's real money.
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, it is, Senator Lundin. So what are just maybe a few of the things that you're proposing that will help save this money?
SPEAKER 16 :
You bet. We're working on repealing Senate Bill 260. It's a big bill that gave us a whole bunch of these hidden fees and taxes, the 29-cent fee we just talked about. It's also created four additional enterprises of government to produce transportation ideas that put people on trains and buses. The challenge is... The people of Colorado are not adopting the transportation program that the Democrat social engineers are trying to push on the people of Colorado. So this money that's being collected is going into a project that is not even being broadly adopted by the people of Colorado, nor do I believe it ever was. will be. And we're from the West. We are used to getting on our horse, riding to where we need to go do our business, tying our horse up at the rail, doing our business, and then getting back on our horse and going home. That's kind of the way we work. This idea of herding people into buses and trains doesn't work. Now, I went to school in New York City. I love the metropolitan transit system, the subway system of New York, because it actually made sense there. You had a lot of concentrated people. You could move a It made sense that here in the wide open West, it just doesn't make sense. So that's one place. We've got the bag fees. This is probably the smallest in terms of dollars. It's another bill that Senator Bright from Weld County is going to bring that. We'll bring down costs on transportation. We've got a bill that would promote nuclear energy. It's estimated that nuclear energy would generate a savings of $700 to $900 per family in Colorado if we added that into the energy mix in Colorado. But the biggest place is housing. That's where people are really feeling the pinch. The cost of housing has escalated by about 35% in the last five years. Median home price used to be about $400,000. Now it's north of $600,000. And no new condominiums or materially no new condominiums, which are the most affordable housing, are being built in Colorado because of the construction defects laws that invite lawsuits. It's estimated that it adds about $40,000 per door, the cost of construction defects or the threat of construction defects laws on every for sale multifamily home that's built. You can build the same thing for rent, multifamily, an apartment building or an apartment unit, For tens of thousands of dollars less, then you could build the exact same unit and have it for sale. It's just a difference in the laws where the construction defects laws invite lawsuits on developers and builders that would build multifamily for sale units. and therefore they don't develop it. The risk is too great, and so it's not being built. And so we don't have that first rung of homeownership, condominiums, for sale, multifamily homes. They're just not being built in Colorado, and we've got to fix that. So that would bring one of the biggest hits. I mean, there's an estimated $2,900 per family in savings that would be associated with that.
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, this is really creative, and it's standing for something. I love that, Senator Lundin. So thank you for giving us a primer on all of this. I really do appreciate it. So thank you.
SPEAKER 16 :
Absolutely. You know, we're there at the Capitol for the people. That's what Republicans do. Government, yeah, occasionally it does something right, but not very often. The people, they're the creative power that drives forward Colorado and drives forward America.
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, absolutely. So, Senator Lundeen, thank you so much. And Pam Long, author here at The Kim Monson Show, thank you also. And this is an important piece that we'll be rolling out this weekend. so with that our quote for the end of the show i went to bob hope and he entertained the troops during war times and he said this i was there i saw your sons and husbands your brothers your sweethearts i saw how they worked played fought and lived i saw some of them die i saw more courage more good humor in the face of discomfort more love in an era of hate and more devotion to duty than could ever exist under tyranny So today, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and list well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals, and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you, and God bless America.
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Join host Barry Kite as he sits in for Bill Gunderson on the January 16th edition of the Best Stocks Now show. Dive into a thorough market analysis as Barry unpacks the latest trends affecting major indices and the driving factors behind the recent market rally. Discover the significant role played by falling interest rates and robust bank earnings in boosting market confidence, alongside insightful discussions on the state of futures and traditional assets like crude oil and gold.
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He's been seen on CNBC, the Fox News Channel, and the Fox Business Channel. His articles can be found on MarketWatch, Seeking Alpha, TheStreet.com, and many other places. He's the author of the weekly Best Stocks Now newsletter and the inventor of the Best Stocks Now app. He's president of Gundersen Capital Management. Here is professional money manager Bill Gundersen.
SPEAKER 07 :
Good morning and welcome to the January 16th edition of the Best Stocks Now show. I am Barry Kite, planner and analyst here at Gundersen Capital Management, handling show duties for Bill today. Look at the markets. We started off futures, of course, were green basically all morning. Now it looks like we've got a good bit of red on the screen here. We've got the NASDAQ down 0.18%. That's 34 points to 19,476. We've got the Dow down almost 100 points, down 0.22% here. And the S&P 500 down 12 basis points to 5,942 points. We also have crude oil back down below that $80 a barrel number at $79.59. Gold catching a bit of a bid today, back over $2,700. Right now we're at $2,716. And Bitcoin down $1,200 today, down 1.25% at just under $98,000. But again, welcome to the January 16th edition of the Best Docs Now show. I'm your host, Barry Kite, Planner Analyst here at Gundersen Capital Management, sitting in for Bill. And I also have Jeff Webster, as usual, joining me on the show today. Jeff's our Vice President and Advisor here at the firm. Good morning, Jeff. How are things going in your world? Going great.
SPEAKER 02 :
Happy to be here today.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, certainly. Bill's been talking about a lot of these support levels, whether he's featuring that in the newsletter and the technical analysis part, or if it's some of his live trading emails that go out and showing some support. various support levels for the markets, and it was nice to see the markets rally yesterday and kind of get a bit away from some of those support levels. So always nice to wake up with those charts looking a little better than the day previously. It really was a really nice rally in the market yesterday. I mean, you had the major markets. You know, all of the major U.S. averages were up. NASDAQ was up 2.5% yesterday, broke a five-day losing streak. It was also the market's biggest day since Election Day. So it's interesting. We're not far from Inauguration Day on Monday. But also, the market had its best day since the day after the election. And so that piece was pretty interesting yesterday. S&P was also up 1.8%, a strong number there. And the Dow was up over 700 points yesterday. It's a 1.7% really on the back of Goldman Sachs, and we'll get into some of those banking earnings here later. But certainly a big driver for the market yesterday.
SPEAKER 02 :
It's nice to see all three markets. do well on the same day it's it seems like lately you know we'll see uh the s&p and nasdaq you know in the green and the dow's down but it was it was great uh to to see things good across the board yeah some other you know it's nice to see another sector right of the market you know kind of uh
SPEAKER 07 :
kind of rallying out there versus just for the longest time it seemed, particularly from early 2023 on, it was really computer chips and chips and weight loss drugs for an extended period there. So certainly kind of a couple of reasons, certainly driving that broad-based recovery in the market yesterday, really driven by Two things, falling interest rates and then, of course, those strong bank earnings, which they're the ones that kick off earnings season. So we don't have a lot of financial exposure, but we welcome it in terms of driving the market forward. And that translates, as Bill always says, you know, we've got certainly, you know, interest rates were good news dropping yesterday by 12 or 14 basis points. We're good for PE ratios and also with the bank earnings, we had good for earnings estimates. So both sides of that. equation both on the P.E. ratio side, meaning the multiple, how much we're willing to pay for those earnings, and earnings estimates. Both went up yesterday, so that's always a good driver in the market. And Bill's been warning, as we know, warning about elevated P.E. ratios, particularly as we've seen rates rise towards getting close to hitting kind of that 4.8 number. Numbers we haven't seen really in the last 10 years, only a couple of times. But yesterday, markets kind of repriced interest rates, particularly at the 10-year dropping. 14 basis points got to about 4.66% yesterday. I think last time I looked, I think we're ticked up just a tiny bit. I think we're maybe around 4.68, yeah, 4.67 at the moment today. But that was really driven by, we talked about early in the week what the movers were going to be. Jeff, in terms of what were the big reports, obviously we knew we had some bank earnings, but we had CPI report, we had the PPI report, PPI on Tuesday and CPI yesterday, which were fairly tame reports. And the CPI report yesterday actually had the market price an additional $25. basis point rate cut in 2025. So it's interesting how just one piece of news can drive the markets in particular fashion. But yeah, I mean, those two reports this week, It literally had the market price in one more cut in 2025 than they initially had priced in. And you've got some firms out there that think maybe the Fed might raise towards the end of 2025. And that kind of tampered some of those expectations as well. So all of those, you know, all of that kind of led to that biggest cut. market move up since the Wednesday after the election. Of course, Asian markets, you know, the markets this morning, you know, Asian markets rose as well on the back of the U.S.' 's, you know, U.S. equity markets rally yesterday. We'll say the interesting story in terms of international finance, and Bill has talked about this a good bit before, is the Japanese yen, it's strengthened, kind of reaching its highest level against the dollar in four weeks. There's some word that at the next Bank of America, that they reported today too, but Bank of Japan's meeting that they may actually raise rates at their next meeting, which could lead potentially, we'll remember where we had some of the carry trade, uh that fell off uh once uh the bank of japan began raising rates uh kind of i guess it was i want to say it was earlier in 2024 eventually they kind of stopped raising they kind of took a pause and they may there may be kind of a surprise raise coming up which would potentially kind of put a little damper on the carry trade, which we've talked about it here before, is that carry trade. And Bill's written articles on it, too. But that carry trade, you borrow a yen, buy dollars, and then those dollars find... risk assets, well, you know, when you unwind that, well, you've got to, you know, pay back those Japanese loans in yen. So you've obviously got to sell the risk asset you're in in U.S. dollars, and then you turn that into yen and pay back the note. So in other words, the borrowing cost of that trade are going to go up, which could dampen the profits and the use of that. So Last time we saw that, we kind of had a pullback. I want to say it was, I'm just going to go back and look at this. I want to say it was back in July. Jeff, I know Bill put an article out around that time talking about the carry trade. But that's something to be kind of a little wary of, even on the good news of what we had yesterday. Any thoughts on yesterday? I know the quantum names kind of pumped me and bounced back a bit.
SPEAKER 02 :
No, I'm thinking a lot about the banks. I know that Bill's not particularly bullish on bank stocks, but they all seem to be doing well. We're seeing great earnings results. A lot of them have attributed to their investment banking. We can talk about that when we come back, about what that means.
SPEAKER 07 :
I've got some of those earnings queued up, and we'll get into those when we come back for the second segment of the Best Docs Now show. We'll be right back. Stick with us. And welcome back here to the second quarter of the January 16th edition of the Best Docs Now show. I am Barry Kite, your host here today, sitting in for Bill, planner and analyst here at Gundersen Capital Management. We also have Jeff Webster on the line here, our vice president and also advisor here at the firm. Looks like in terms of the market, we've got still... Still some red on the screen, a little bit better than when we started. We've got the Dow down 0.2% at the moment. The S&P basically flat. We've got the NASDAQ down 0.09%, so only down 18 points. Crude oil is still under $80. Gold catching a bid today over $2,700. It's at $2,715 at the moment. And Bitcoin down just a little bit less than 1%, so not a... Not a lot of volatility there, at least in Bitcoin at this point. So kind of a bit of a risk-off day, it seems like. Have you had a chance to peek at some of those quantum names today? That's kind of my new gauge for appetite for risk there, Jeff. How are they looking?
SPEAKER 02 :
Well, it... Yeah, they're actually a lot like Bitcoin as far as their volatility goes. And it seems like they take turns as far as who the big gainers are going to be. I mean, ARQQ is the big gainer today up... Right now, 43, almost 44%. QUBT and QBTS are both up 6% and 3% respectively. You know, my personal favorite, Rigetti, is up just over 100 basis points. IONQ is slightly down today, but it seems like they take turns trading off and on and You know, these companies, they're exciting. Their investments with them, though, are still very, very highly speculative. You're starting to hear that they're striking deals with the government, the Air Force, with NASA, with all these different things. And please do not confuse striking a deal with revenue in many cases. Yeah. Those are deals. Those are things that will help project revenue over the next several years. But revenue has not been realized, let alone profitability. And so they're still highly speculative. You know, I would encourage individuals to, you know, going out there on YouTube and using, you know, a variety of Internet resources, there's a lot of great explanations as to what quantum computing is. But essentially, you know, a computer today, as we know it, Barry, they process information in basic units called bits, and they're zeros and ones. And quantum computers process in qubits, which essentially allows you to process both a zero and a one simultaneously. It can be that same thing, and it's called a superposition. And it essentially just significantly increases the processing and the ability to do things And, you know, a lot of times we associate quantum computing with AI, but AI is just one of the segments that quantum computing is going to benefit. I mean, I see big, big advantages to the pharmaceutical and medical industries as to how they research diseases and come up with cures in the financial institutions, you know, the ability to process financial information, any type of organization that does any type of modeling, these will be very, very strong applications. And, of course, we had Jensen Wang last week stating that quantum computing still could be 15 years. Zuckerberg also came out with a similar statement. a few days ago, but we're starting to see some of the enterprise software companies, most notably Christian Klein from SAP, say, hey, you know what, I think we're three years away from the utilization of these capabilities for business software applications.
SPEAKER 07 :
These companies have also made investments into that. A lot of times when you're talking about these deals or partnerships, a lot of times it's the company you know making an investment in the quantum name that you may have just popped up on your radar. Right. And they're not just investing.
SPEAKER 02 :
They're not just investing. They're putting their money where their mouth is, and they're buying billions of dollars of these chips and stuff like that. So they will be not only investing in these companies, but they will be buying those systems. They're currently buying them to test them. I mean, not any type of a measurable investment, amount yet, but they're looking for applications with these capabilities. So it's an exciting space to begin to understand and follow. Well, it's just, you know, as someone who spent a career in technology, it is so exciting. I mean, AI, quantum computing, I'm really thrilled to see what the next, you know, five years is going to do for us.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, it's amazing the things they're doing there. I think certainly I've read some things and heard some folks talk about on the drug discovery side. you know, just in terms of, you know, the cost that it takes to research some of these drugs, to set up a trial, basically some of it, you know, some of these trials when they set them up, you know, CEOs admittingly are, you know, kind of shooting in the dark somewhat in terms of, you know, hoping that these particular, you know, pharmaceuticals or chemical combinations, right, are going to do what they hope it's going to do. And a lot of times they fail and, you know, being able to run you know, simulations or scenarios, right, access to data, you know, certainly whether it's through quantum computing or through AI or both, you know, being able to, you know, essentially almost run a trial and with the last step, right, testing it on folks through, you know, kind of, you know, so it almost can rewrite the, drug discovery process, which would be cheaper for the company to do the research, right, also cheaper for, you know, eventually for, you know, patients, right, to use the medicines and, you know, hopefully, you know, also comes up with better outcomes as well in terms of improving overall health, so, or at least treating overall health, I'd say. A lot of these drug companies really are just treating symptoms, but anything that can improve that, cut down those R&D costs is a big value to not just computing companies, but all types of companies across the industry.
SPEAKER 02 :
Well, there's so many smart researchers and scientists out there, and just the technical capabilities that are becoming available to them to allow them to harness their intelligence and put into practice their ideas is going to be super exciting.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, I mean, just making new discoveries every day. When we come back, we're blazing through the first half of the Best Stocks Now show. When we get back, we'll go through some of those bank earnings and also look at some of the inflation expectations that drove interest rates down yesterday.
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Good morning and welcome back to the second half of the Thursday, January 16th edition of the Best Docs Now show. I am Barry Kite, planer analyst here at Gunderson Capital, serving as relief captain for Bill this morning. And also, as usual, now joined by Jeff Webster on the show, vice president advisor here at the firm. Looks like still some red in the screen, not any huge moves there. happening. In terms of thoughts on the market, I know Bill's been, I personally always kind of peak first at that technical analysis section. I'll be interested to see what section you go to first usually, Jeff. But of course, if you want to stay up to date with Bill's thoughts on the market, you can always get the newsletter on Also, live trading alert still for four weeks. You can always go to GundersenCapital.com and sign up there. You can also, if you want to have a discussion, take a look at your portfolio allocation, how we could be of use to you. Feel free to give us a call at 855-611-BEST. That's 855-611-2378 and About 99% chance you'll speak to Edie there. She's there to be on the front lines and help you any way we can and schedule a meeting with us. We'd be happy to give you some thoughts on what you're doing. In terms of... A big driver of the market yesterday is really earnings, and as a lot of you know, any earnings season bill will get given earnings grade as we go through earnings season. Of course, we've only had a few percentage-wise of the S&P, just a very small percentage report, but large financial institutions are always kind of the kickoff to earnings season, and Certainly has gone out of the gates well, Jeff. I guess we'd rather start with, if we're playing basketball, we want a solid run at the beginning of the game rather than any other time, right? It's like we're starting out 6-0.
SPEAKER 02 :
That's right. It's important to get on the scoreboard in a positive manner early.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, and it's one of, of course, two things that we focus on. Valuation is PE ratios and earnings per share, particularly earnings per share growth, and certainly a hot start by the big banks and institutions there. Those results, I mean, in our opinion, certainly paint a fairly rosy or optimistic view of the economy going forward. It was interesting to see largely driven almost – Almost reflects when I read some of these notes from some of these earnings calls where, you know, a lot of times a lot of clients that we've spoken with, particularly since the election where, you know, I don't know, it's just folks seem a bit more optimistic or, you know, a cloud's kind of been lifted off of, you know, off of folks or off the market in some form or fashion. And these CEOs from the banks kind of seem, you know, some of the comments kind of seemed I got kind of the same vibe where they're almost driven by optimism around the incoming Trump 2.0 administration. Of course, I believe today, and maybe actually be questioned right now, but I think Scott Besant will be... Question of the day in his bid to become the Treasury Secretary, which I think in terms of resume is pretty hard to argue against in terms of what he's done in different parts of the market.
SPEAKER 02 :
He's our guy from Charleston, is he not?
SPEAKER 07 :
That's right, yeah. So he's resided, I don't know how long he's resided here, but he's resided in South Carolina, resided in Charleston area for a period of time now. So it's kind of exciting that he's up for this post. Certainly when you look at it from a banking perspective, banks with this optimism, they seem to be on board. as well. And we'll run through some of the bank earnings highlights here real quick. This morning we received Bank of America, Morgan Stanley, U.S. Bank Corp. All of those were solid reports and coming, of course, on the heels of yesterday's good reports from J.P. Morgan. Wells Fargo kind of had a bit of a mixed report. Citi had a great one. Goldman had a fantastic one as well. Yesterday, of course, you know, Citi was up 4.8%. Wells Fargo was up 5.7%, even though I believe they missed on revenue. But who cares? Who cares, I guess. They're up 5.7%. Goldman yesterday was up.
SPEAKER 02 :
What's jumping at me right now, Barry, is U.S. Bank. U.S. Bank is down, down 7% right now. If you look at the banking industry, you have your retail banks. These are the banks that work with people like you and I and all of our listeners. We manage our money there. We pay our bills there. We might use them for mortgages, for credit cards, all those different types of things. You have your commercial banks that do the exact same things, but for businesses. And then you have the investment banks, which help companies uh, raise capital, you know, through equity and debt financing, through mergers and acquisitions, through underwriting securities, providing advisory services, and they provide, you know, nice fees. It seems like, uh, You know, maybe the firms that have, you know, good focus on that investment banking piece seem to be doing well. I mean, U.S. Bank does all that stuff, but frankly, their focus is is primarily, I think, on retail banking. Yeah, they're more of a bank.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, I always call them more of a traditional bank, right? And my guess is, and that report came out just a bit before the show, but if I had to guess, my guess is they were short on their net interest income. The double-edged sword, you know, Really, these banks benefit, especially these large ones, because they have, like Jeff was saying, they have both pieces, whether it's doing traditional banking or also investment banking and or financial services or both. U.S. Bank is going to be more of a bank's bank in terms of more focused on that interest income. But the two things that have really benefited banks, and you'll hear them throughout these reports, were net interest income rising. And that's kind of your tradition. Think of it as your traditional bank, right? And that's just because the yield curve is steepened. Companies are able to borrow from the Fed at a particular rate, right? And then lend it out to us at a higher rate. So that piece of banking income has gone up. And also, Investment banking earnings expectations have risen, whether it's through financial services or dealmaking, particularly forward guidance on the dealmaking side was very positive and optimistic. A lot of that comes from the Trump administration, kind of similar to his first go-around was going to reduce red tape, make investment easier. You know, make helping companies be able to combine easier, right, mergers and acquisitions. So all of those metrics, right, on a go-forward basis have helped particularly companies like, you know, J.P. Morgan that does both. You know, even Bank of America, you know, does both, particularly on the Merrill Lynch side. But the biggest benefit factor has really been Goldman's report that they came out with. They just had some huge revenues, and they're more of a quote-unquote deal-making bank over the years. So they've got some – they certainly are going to benefit the most from this tailwind in terms of as the deal-making environment becomes more more conducive to deals, then Goldman is certainly going to benefit there. Each one of these banks, Morgan Stanley, another one that benefits, they lean more on the end of investment banking slash retail investors. or just investment revenue. I mean, their revenue is up 25%, over 25% year over year at Morgan Stanley. So that, you know, that tells you, you know, that those pieces of those businesses are doing very well. And interest income, net interest income is one of those kind of slow and steady, you know, metrics. And they're essentially, each one of these banks said that there's, metrics are scheduled to rise over 2025. So, you know, bottom line is the banks seem pretty optimistic. That gives us, you know, our view from a market view, particularly in 2025 is, you know, that the trend should continue with some, you know, volatility in the first quarter of the year as the Trump administration gets things rolling. But we're steadily through the third segment of the Best Stocks Now show. We'll be back for the fourth and final one here in a moment and take a look underneath the market and see what's going on. We'll be right back. And welcome back to the January 16th edition of the Best Stocks Now show. I am Barry Kite, planner and analyst here at Gunderson Capital, sitting in for Bill today. And we also have Jeff Webster on the show, vice president and advisor at the firm. Well, you know, when we look at bank earnings, real quick just to finish this up, you know, painted a decent picture for the consumer as well. I know, I believe we've got retail sales today. I believe they came in today and not much to write home about there. It was pretty much a pretty benign report. But, you know, when you look at for a lot of these companies, whether it's consumer credit or, They give you some insight on the credit or credit delinquency front. And the consumer continues. We've seen some reports. Target, I think, came out with one today in terms of how day sales were better than expected. So the one thing we can count on, Jeff, in terms of Americans, is spending, right? And while the consumer has continued to pile on debt, I do think it's interesting. I mean, American Express... You know, some of those metrics, because the question is how long can the cycle last, right? That's what you keep hearing in terms of the, you know, expansion cycle. How long can this, how long will this continue? And, you know, looking at from a credit card standpoint, I mean, we've got, you know, some of these numbers are even better than pre-COVID levels. I mean, you've got consumer card. This is from American Express. Delinquency rate was 1.4%. It was the fourth straight month. So it's been steady. It's been 1.4% for the fourth straight month in December. And also the level is under. the 1.6% level in December of 2019, which was before the pandemic. So pretty interesting that the consumer continues to move forward regardless of inflation or what's out there. And we keep seeing it from a GDP growth standpoint.
SPEAKER 02 :
Barry, I can't help but wonder how... the fires that we're seeing in California are going to impact 2025, particularly the last two quarters of the year. You know, 12,000 homes have been lost. You know, while that may not have an impact per se on credit card, but mortgage defaults, insurance rates, those are all things that, you know, can impact inflation. I'd be curious to get your thoughts on that. you know, what that outlook could potentially look like.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, well, I mean, you know, just living, right, home, shelter, right, that's been one of the stickiest portions of the inflation picture. I believe, don't quote me on this, but I think it makes up about 40% of the inflation number. And so, you know... I think it was Williams, one of the Fed governors, was mentioning, I believe in something yesterday, where they keep an eye on basically home, shelter, and they've been surprised how sticky it's been in terms of being elevated. And a lot of that they can't control, right? A lot of it has to do with home supply, right? And, you know, yeah, you lose, you know, however many thousands, you know, tens of thousands of dwellings and, you know, frankly, some expensive, you know, expensive pieces of real estate. So when you're talking about, you know, just the red tape of building, right, rebuilding in California, you know, what those insurance rates look like going forward, building materials, where do those people live in the interim, which, you know, just creates, you know, less supply uh and so yeah overall it's a you know it'll be a you know much watched uh thing and california's dealt with this before right they've had some uh you know some significant fire events in you know very affluent areas as well it's just a you know it's a it's a problem that you know was already a problem and this only creates you know more issues you know in my opinion
SPEAKER 02 :
Well, I wonder if we're going to see another mass exodus. We're already seeing it to some extent from California. States like Arizona, Utah, Idaho, our own home state of South Carolina, which happens to be the number one state that people are migrating to. You have to wonder about the impacts on those states' economies, their infrastructure, traffic, all that good kind of stuff.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, and it's not the only areas that deal with it, right? These are insurance companies, right, whether they're writing a policy in California or writing a policy in some other state that potentially could be prone to these types of events. you know, they're watching this and, you know, learning from it. Their models, right, their actuaries, right, are going to, you know, this is going to be priced into, you know, not just for Californians, right, it's going to be priced in particularly on the insurance side and, you know, across the U.S., um and then building materials i mean you know you've got uh uh you know where these homes are and a lot of these materials right you know some of these some of these a lot of the stuff you don't just go to lowes and pick up right um yeah that's uh it'll be you know it's going to be an interesting dynamic for their their whole you know whether it's from the real estate business side of it from the construction side of it i mean there's already so much red tape to building uh in that uh in that area um certainly you would think you have to do something to um you know grease the wheels and you know and and allow those people to rebuild hopefully faster um you know sooner than later i guess
SPEAKER 02 :
Well, we talk about the proverbial picks and shovels around the companies that support AI and the various data center companies and things like that. But literally, as we talk about rebuilding and stuff like that, we are literally talking about picks and shovels and the companies that will go into rebuilding those areas. real estate, the lumber companies, all the fixtures inside the houses, the cabinets, the carpeting, the flooring, all those different types of things. It'll just be very interesting to see how those things are impacted by it.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, and those are, you know, it's always kind of what we're doing a lot of times as analysts and what Bill's doing is really connecting the dots and, you know, thinking of how those different things and how everything's intertwined there. But to stay up to date with our thoughts, give us a call, 855-611-BEST. That's 855-611-2378. Or you can reach us at GundersenCapital.com. Have a great day, everyone.
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Boy, I would certainly agree about that. And it's easier to be physically and mentally healthy when you don't have financial worries.
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All right, so I read a study. I was telling Al earlier, and I figured we could talk about this today because this goes along with this whole area of what we're talking about. One in four adults over the age of 77. don't have life insurance, and among age groups 65 to 74, which, by the way, don't have a lot of life insurance either, yet they have debts like mortgages, lines of credit, car loans, credit card debt, student loans. On top of that, the average cost of funerals in the United States is about $8,000.
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Boy, it certainly is. And sometimes people say, well, you should only have term insurance. Well, if you know for certain that you'll have an enormous nest egg when you're older, that holds true. But on the other hand, permanent insurance of various types, and there's some very attractive types. permanent insurance that grows like the market, that will still be around when you're older and you may need it for reasons that you hadn't even thought about. Maybe to replace your pension rather than having your pension reduced when it's time to retire.
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Point being, folks, there's a lot of things that get factored into this. So when we talk retirement, and I mentioned that Al wants to help you get to retirement and then stay there, it's not just the single financial piece. In other words, how much money is in an IRA or how much money is in a pension, Al. It's a combination of things that I know you sit down and look at with people to make sure that as a whole, do they have everything planned out correctly? Yeah.
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All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Thanks for joining us. Health and Wellness Wednesday. Dr. Julie Gatza will be joining us at the bottom of our. We're going to talk about snacks, which during the winter months, you know, that just happens on a routine basis anyways. And she's going to help us with some of that now. I also have, and I'll talk about this probably after Dr. Julie, might even hit this with her just a little bit, red dye number three. Red dye number three has been banned as of today. Saw the news come out on that. So that's something I might get into a little bit later, maybe even get some special guests on. Probably talk to Dr. Kelly Victory and Steve House about that as well tomorrow. I had an article. I was going to try to find a guest for this particular section, but I figure we have enough and I can handle this portion of it, I believe. This one's about mental health. Body image and obesity and the correlations between. So I don't talk a lot on this program on the mental health end of things. And I think most of you probably know why it's important. Personally, for me, I think, and I'm not trying to set aside anybody's mental health concerns or anything along those lines because I understand that it's very real and there are certain individuals that really struggle when it comes to their mental health. Although, with that being said, I think mental health gets used as a crutch for a lot of lazy people. Yes, I just said that. In other words, I think people at times just don't feel like doing something, keyword, and in turn, they'll come up with every mental health excuse under the book as to why they can't do X, Y, Z. And I know I sound really harsh, and I know that sounds super harsh, but I'm going to say it anyways because not enough people say it. And we've now gotten into where we have this quote-unquote mental health crisis, and I wonder, is it really? And again, I'm definitely not going against anybody that has real, solid mental things going on that they need help with. And I understand some people struggle with depression. They can struggle with the loss of a loved one, loss of a child, loss of a spouse, those sorts of things. And I'm not talking about those. And if you're somebody out there along those lines, you know, my heart and thoughts and prayers go out to you because, yes, I understand how difficult those things can be. So I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about even some of the things where you would not believe. You would not believe how many guest requests I get for mental health in the workplace. And you all know how many of those I interview. Zero. Because, again, my feeling on a lot of that is it's overblown. And I'm just not going to give that a platform. And maybe I'm wrong. And if I am, Lord forgive me. But I don't think I am. I've been in the business world for a very long time, owned my own businesses for a very long time. And I get it. There can be burnout and things that come along and things that happen and so on. But it sure seems like The newest generation struggles the most with the things that I'm talking about, while others that are three times their age show up to work on time every day and just work their way through things. Why is that? I understand that we talk about this on Health and Wellness Wednesdays. Our food sources and things like that have changed, and I get all of that. But really, has it changed that much to where we have this quote-unquote mental health crisis, especially in the workplace? And my question is, is it really real? Or is it just laziness gone amok? And again, I don't know. I'm not a professional psychologist, and Lord knows you would never want me to be because I don't have that capacity. I don't have that mental capacity. And part of that is because for me personally, and I can say this, my mom has passed. I think it's fair for me to say this. I'm not talking bad about her at all, but I grew up with a mom and love her dearly to this day. But she struggled with depression, part of her DNA, some things that even happened in her past. And so believe me, folks, I understand firsthand how all of that works. I've seen it with my own two eyes. And maybe in my world, I went the other extreme because for me, and you've even heard Donald Trump talk about this recently, the best way for me to never get depressed is if I'm always busy working, doing something, there's no time to be depressed. And I'm not adding any kind of a spiritual layer to this or anything along those lines, although I think if you look at even the scriptural aspects of that, I don't think that's the wrong approach. Now, can everything be done out of balance and can you go overboard? Yes, I understand that. But I think we live in a day and age now to where we've gotten to where everything's become a mental awareness thing. when we're trying to make an excuse for just not wanting to do something, not wanting to work, not wanting to be responsible, not wanting to be an adult. We just had Al on from Golden Eagle Financial talking about life insurance and finances and really personal responsibility. What are you going to do when you're ready to leave this earth and leave your family behind? Have you handled all of that correctly? Personal responsibility. And I almost feel like we've gotten to this stage to where we don't even talk about personal responsibility because that might offend someone. It might affect their mental health. And frankly, that's hogwash. Now, I understand, as I said earlier, that there is some actual mental health things. And some of these that I'm going to talk about can add to that. And I can see how it would. So first off. Negative body image. So individuals with a negative body image are more likely to experience mental health issues such as depression, anxiety, low self-esteem. A study found that nearly 40% of women with major depressive disorder experienced disordered eating as well. And that's very real stuff, folks, and I'm not trying to diminish or make light of that at all. Yes, I understand that part of it. That can very much affect especially women, young women even. And on the same token, we'll use that as an example, we've gone completely the other way. So instead of trying to explain to young women that, you know, no, nobody's looking for the perfect body, But you also want to be healthy. And healthy can mean different things to different people as far as their body shape is concerned. But being 50 pounds overweight is also not healthy. Nor should we glamorize that. And yet we are. And I've talked about that during this hour in the past. That's not healthy either. So we tend to, well, it's because the way one side looks at things versus the other. You know, we're going to throw the baby out with the bathwater. We're going to go all in on this whole image thing. In fact, we're going to crown Miss America even though she's 100-plus pounds overweight. And in a way, glorifying that image. And I've got nothing against anybody that's overweight. I've been there myself, so I understand that fully. But I can also tell you that, well, not only then but now, should I be crowned Mr. America? No. No. Do I look like Arnold Schwarzenegger? No. Not even close. Charlie's in here agreeing with me. No, I do not. And again, not that I'm a unattractive person on the same token. I don't do what he used to do. And granted, he doesn't look the same way anymore either. But I never did what he did to look that way. Never had that drive. I had other things I wanted to do that were more important. Point being, negative body image can affect your mental health. Obesity can also increase mental health disorders. 25%, by the way. Goes along with some of what I just talked about a moment ago. Depression and anxiety. About 43% of adults with depression from 2005 to 2010 had obesity. Anxiety disorders are also more prevailing among individuals with obesity, too, meaning they're even above the obesity level. Eating disorders, I talked about that a few minutes ago. Negative body image and obesity can lead to eating disorders, which are strongly linked to mental health issues, such as depression and anxiety. Social isolation. Low self-esteem and negative body image can result in social isolation for their children. exacerbating the mental health problems, and then the social media impact, which, by the way, I'm going to spend a couple of minutes here, probably the biggest of all of this. The amount of criticalness, maybe is a way for me to say that, that comes from social media is huge. Huge. And it would behoove a lot of parents... to really control how much exposure to some of that their young people have, especially their young ladies. Especially young ladies as they start to mature and become teenagers. You know, all of you listening, we've all grown up. We've all been through that quote-unquote awkward stage. Some do better than others at that, but we've all been through it. And no, it's not fun, folks. I don't think any of us looking back could say those were fun years. They're not. They're awful. As a young person, things are changing. Things are happening. Sometimes you don't even understand why. For us boys, your voice changes, and you may even have a crack in your voice at times when your voice is changing. You get made fun of because of that and so on. And that's just the tip of the iceberg of things that happen, as you all know. So my point is, these kids have enough stuff going on already, and then we're going to go throw the perfect world, quote-unquote, at them through social media. Everybody's a model. Everybody's got a filter. Everybody looks great. Nobody has a pimple, even. I mean, let's be honest. When's the last time you ever looked at a video? I mean, unless it's somebody making some, you know, video where they're not promoting something. And I get there's some, you know, self-help videos and things like that. But in general, most of the promotional type videos, even those social media influencers, do you ever see them with a pimple? The answer is no. They're filtering all that stuff out. Now, they may have one, but they use filters and things that disguise all of that and take it out of the image. It's not there. They're perfect. Or so they seem. And that goes to everything including their skin color, what their hair looks like, eyebrows, on and on we go. And as I said the other day, a lot of those smart influencers will even show, this is what I look like with a filter versus without. They'll even do the side-by-side comparison. Interestingly enough, though, they still keep using the filters. So my advice to parents especially is, is don't let your kids be susceptible to that stuff, exposed to that stuff. And I know it's hard. I know they're going to see it. Even when you're not around them, even if you're monitoring the device that they have, they've got access to other devices, friends, and so on. I understand that. But I think as parents, anything you can possibly do to limit the amount of exposure to those things, to help them with their self-image, is what we as parents and grandparents should do. On top of that... which some parents are really good at and others are not. Now, you guys all know me. I'm not a big one on everybody gets a prize. But when it comes to building up kids and their self-esteem, yes, everyone gets a prize. That's different. When you're trying to build up your child's self-esteem, you should not criticize them for everything they do. You should be lifting them up for the things that they do. Now, that doesn't mean there's no discipline. It doesn't mean that we don't get after them when things aren't going a particular way that they should. I'm not saying that. You guys all know me and how my feelings are on raising kids. But I also feel like we don't lift them up enough when it comes to their own self-image. Every kid is beautiful in their own way, period. That I will agree with. On the same token, we should be teaching our kids, this is Health and Wellness Wednesday, we should be teaching them these are the things we should eat, these are the things we should drink, these are the things that we should avoid and stay away from. In fact, when you're at school and you're trying to find a snack and do some different things, we should be teaching our kids these are the things you should be going after versus just allowing them a free-for-all. On the same token, we as parents are about as guilty of not eating the right things around them as anyone, and it's kind of monkey see, monkey do. It's sort of like you want your kid that's a teen driver to drive the speed limit, but you're always 25 miles an hour over. What are you teaching your kid? The same can happen when it comes to food and other things. So, again, mental health, yes, it's a big deal. Yes, a lot of these other things can impact millions upon millions of people. And as I started this off, I just want to make sure that we're – going after this whole mental health thing correctly, and not just allowing certain individuals to make excuses. And when it comes to our kids, that's not at all what I'm saying, because kids struggle with a lot of these areas, period. And as parents and grandparents, you really need to be paying attention to what's going on and address it as much as you can. And I understand kids are going to be kids. And there's only certain things you can help with. But you need to be involved with your kids regularly. and not expect somebody else to raise them, because it's our job as parents to raise them. And by the way, that never stops. I can tell you that from being somebody that's old and has old kids now and grandkids. The parenting never stops. You're still doing things on an ongoing basis. Just a little tidbit, I know that's a little bit off of what we normally do here on Health and Wellness Wednesday, but when I got this report in and started reading through it, I thought that as we start the new year off, it'd be a really good thing to start with, and especially when it comes to our young people, teach them that God made them that way. And yes, we need to honor what He's done in our lives and live the best life we possibly can, including our own bodies, meaning we shouldn't abuse it in any way, any way, shape, or form. So, I'll leave you with that. We'll be back, Dr. Dr. Julie, in just one moment. Golden Eagle Financial is up next. As I said earlier, Al Smith from Golden Eagle. He not only wants to help you with your financial future, but as we talked about a moment ago with life insurance and things along those lines, he can help you with every aspect of that. Give Al a call today, 303-744-1128.
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All right, we are back. Welcome. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560, our health and wellness Wednesday edition. Dr. Julie Gatz is joining us now. Happy New Year, Dr. Julie.
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Happy New Year to you.
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Always a joy, and I was going to talk about this in a little bit anyway, so might as well mention it now. Today, red dye was banned by the FDA.
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hooray i can't believe in my lifetime i'm actually getting to see the shift of something that's been so detrimental to us okay really quick so folks can even understand what all of that means you know what what is red dye and and what you know why should we have banned this a long time ago i mean it's basically a true toxin to the body it's something like uh kind of licking rat poison, I guess you would say. They've banned it in so many other countries. Other countries never even allowed it in. And we've been using that forever, at least since my lifetime, that I can remember. And it's basically just, you know, another sort of take you out at the ankles. Somebody's making money and, you know, I don't want to make this all about that, but there's no reason in the world that things need to be dyed red. There's so many other ways to make things red, and if it's not as bright and beautiful, well, it's healthy and not deadly.
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Right. I mean, yeah, did that start just because some marketing team someplace decided that the food looked better if we did X, Y, and Z, and so that might make that particular product sell better? Was that where that started from?
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I suspect yes, and somebody was making money off of it because of the fact that they could now use red dye instead of using beet juice or things that actually are... Yeah, in other words, their product became redder than the other product, meaning they might sell more. That's right. You know, I had a patient once years ago who had some really bad stain on her pants, and I said, what is that? And she said, oh... I work at Keebler, and that's stat-free. She said there's no way to get that out of the clothes. I spilled it today. I'm a chemist, and she said that has to be thrown away. We can't get this out of anything. So if you can't get it out of cotton fiber in your clothes, then what the heck is it going into our guts for?
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Yeah, I mean, that to me would have almost been, oh, okay, so that's sort of like eating paint. I mean, I don't think I'm exaggerating. It's like, okay, would we eat paint? No, but yet we've been eating red dye in a lot of us. And in some cases, Dr. Julie, unbeknownst to the person even buying that product because they don't read the label, they had no idea it was even in there.
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Yeah, it's true. I mean, even as a kid, I used to get gumballs, and I would never eat a red one. And I didn't know different, but I said, that just tastes like cancer. And that has been my comment on red dye as a little kid, and I wouldn't eat red ones. Now, I don't think the blue or the green were much better, but I could taste something odd. In the red.
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Interesting. Okay. So our topic, delicious but deadly, the unhealthiest snacks on the planet. Let's get started. And we just kind of did with the whole red dye thing. But what else should people be looking for when it comes to unhealthy snacks?
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I mean, when we look at, you know, easy things that people just grab that aren't, you know, wild, potato chips in general. You know, you've got a lot of fat. It's done in usually bad oils. It's not something that we can process properly. And, you know, I have been a doctor for 34 years, and all those years my first priority is to fix the digestive system and to not put in things that are overwhelming it so that you cannot break down and get nutrition and you're inflamed and the whole body isn't going to work well. There's potato chips. Microwave popcorn is another one. It seems so delicious. It smells amazing. You stop when you smell it somewhere in the workplace. Microwaving things in the first place is suspect. Then put this weird, crazy... good-tasting popcorn that coats the inside of your mouth after you eat it, there's something really not right about it.
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Yeah, I find any more with it, and I don't eat hardly any of that, you know, of the microwave popcorn. Occasionally you might find somebody has some, and you'll take a little bite, and it's like, man, this stuff tastes like cardboard. I mean, it really, I mean, when you get away from it for a while, then you go have a taste, you know, back to that, you kind of really realize, ooh, this stuff really isn't all that great.
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Yeah, it's true. And, you know, it does coat the inside of your mouth. I ate a Krispy Kreme once and said, my goodness, I feel like the inside of my mouth is coated. And somebody laughingly said, yeah, you get used to that.
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I was like... Yeah, I don't want to.
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Exactly.
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Okay, so, you know, choosing unhealthy, and I think there's where some misconceptions come into play as well, Dr. Julie, because we talked about even starting off with the whole red dye thing, the whole marketing of foods, especially in America, that... There are foods out there and there's times where I'll be like, oh, I saw this, you know, you saw an ad or whatever for this. And they talk about how, you know, quote unquote, healthy it is. And I'm reading the label. I'm like, OK, wait a minute. This something's not right here. What one side says doesn't equate to what's on the back.
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That's right. And, you know, there's not a lot of laws on what they can actually say for it. You know, my first thought is I always look at food as food and unfood. Food would be a piece of fish that has enzymes and fats and minerals and healthy fats and protein in it. And unfood would be a box of French fries or any of the things that we're talking about right now. And they don't have enzymes and proteins and good fats. So it actually takes more of your reserves to break down unfood than it ever gives you as far as nutrition. So it's negative nutrition. on what it does to your body. You have to use your storage to break down things like french fries and Oreo cookies and, you know, potato chips.
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So why typically when you're done with that, you just don't feel super well?
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That's right. And, you know, you've got to reach deep and we're supposed to be making digestive enzymes that recognize the proteins, the fat, the carbohydrates, the vegetables. And when we put things in that are red dye and toxins and fat-free weird things and crazy weird oils that aren't healthy in the first place or maybe aren't even, they're stale. Now the system says, wow, poisons, toxins, and it uses all sorts of energy to try to break those things down.
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Okay, talk to us about the little mini cheese sandwich crackers, which I think a lot of people would look at and think, well, if I'm going to grab something, I'll grab that instead of the bag of Lays. Are they any better off?
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No, they're just, I mean, look at how orange they are. So what made it that orange? You know, there's, I mean, it's just, you know, and you've got peanut butter on top of it, put in between two very orange crackers that taste like, strange oiled butter, so it's just when you really look at the ingredients on that, it's pretty nasty.
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Are there any of those at all? I mean, any of the little kit-formed whatever, you know, cheeses, meats, crackers, whatever, are any of those worth eating at all?
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I mean, in those things called snackables, I've really looked, because I used to have to make my kids lunch for years and years and years, and no, there's nothing that I can see out there. But keep in mind, you could take your own block of cheese, you could take your own you know, decent, healthier crackers or, you know, slice up some apples and put some almonds in and put some decent, you know, almond butter on a piece of celery and throw some raisins on it and call it ants on a log. There are so many things that you can do. A hard-billed egg is so easy to travel with that these are real foods. And if you have to basically open it up in a package, a box or a can, it probably has things in it that, You know, you wouldn't give to a sick two-year-old, but we've been trained in this country that it's normal and common, and it's safe and healthy to eat.
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Next one, which I never was a big fan of. I don't know why. All through, even growing up, just never ate a lot of these. But that's those vanilla wafer sandwich cookies. They come in all sorts of different flavors, and they'll come, you know, two or three to a pack. And I don't know. I never even liked those as a kid.
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Yeah. I mean, you know, the icing in it. Yeah. the different types and flavors in it. It's just, I mean, all those things are just, you know, tough on the system. You know, it's got a whole bunch of fat in it, saturated fats on top of it, and, you know, loaded with sugar and high fructose corn syrup. And, you know, there are just so many other treats that you can have about a homemade oatmeal cookie, you know, something that's just healthier and better that actually, you know, doesn't take that much time to, you know, have as a treat.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, in fact, I'm glad you just said that because some of these I look and I think, okay, everybody will have no problem. I shouldn't say no, but most people have no problem eating some of the things we just mentioned, and yet if you were to bake a rack of cookies and lay those out, they would look at that and say, well, I can't eat those. Those aren't healthy. Well, do you realize how these compare to everything else you eat?
SPEAKER 06 :
Yes, that's true. And, you know, just grabbing something on the fly – It's just so easy. You know, go to any gas station. If you're hungry at lunch, grab something because, you know, you forgot lunch or you don't have time to stop. And you start to add up those things that are in those packages, boxes, or cans. And, you know, it's kind of eye-opening when you really do delve into it.
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Granola bars, this is a big one. My wife and I have this conversation a lot because you read the label on granola bars in general, you'll realize that in some cases, not all, because I know there's some good ones, but they're few and far between, by the way. And I might be going out on a limb here, Dr. Julie, but I don't think I am. There's a lot of granola bars, snack bars, whatever you want to call them, that frankly aren't any better than eating a Snickers.
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I agree. Absolutely. And I haven't found one. I mean, I know there's some that are made from nuts, but nuts in general are tough to break down. If you soak nuts overnight and it helps to release the enzymes, then it's actually digestible and you can utilize a lot of the nutrition. But You know, I've looked and looked, and I've seen so many of my patients just, you know, grasp on to having to be right about the granola bars. And it's interesting. I can't get their digestion working as well as they need to. They're spiking their blood sugar. It would be a heck of a lot better having two, you know, hard-billed eggs, a piece of chicken, and, you know, putting that in a little cooler and taking along with them. But, you know, it's easy. It's convenient. And, you know, it's food that if you actually saw that type of food in the 50s, in the 1950s, people would be so It would be weird to have that type of food because it was real food back then. And then to have this sort of foreign thing sitting on the counter that everyone's like, what is that? That's not really food.
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Right. No, you are a thousand percent correct. And you've mentioned a few of these, but let's go through some of the other healthy snacks that people can make on their own. This is something that we do around our house quite often is, you know, just apple slices. If you want to put a little bit of peanut butter on it, fine, whatever. But at the end of the day, that's not a bad little snack.
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It's not at all. It's wonderful. I'm not a huge fan of just consuming a large amount of lunch meat, but there is some okay lunch meat. You could roll that up and eat that. Put some hummus in it if you like. Put a piece of cheese if you want into it. You can have different things rolled up in romaine lettuce. You could put cold chicken from yesterday and make some nice Taiwanese sauce or anything. There's just so many things that you can actually do that You know, there's a million different ways that you can find out on the Internet as well how to make a healthy snack and how to make something that's portable so you're not, you know, out and about and can't, you know, it's gone warm or it can't sustain itself in a car.
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When I lost all of my weight, I remember a lot of the things I would snack on throughout the day would be things like, you know, celery and carrot and cauliflower and broccoli. And I know some people are thinking, geez, how can that be a snack? Well, surprisingly enough, when you get your taste buds adjusted, they'd actually taste pretty darn good.
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It's so true. And the thing about it is often people are needing snacks because they're skipping meals. If you actually would eat protein in the morning, you wouldn't be hungry until the afternoon. If you ate a decent lunch for lunch, you wouldn't have to have something around 3 o'clock. And then if you had a decent dinner, you don't have to eat on the couch, you know, different types of things in a bag that are salty. And, you know, now you're going to bed in a full stomach with something that actually really isn't good food. Good point. If you need to eat three meals a day so that it keeps you from snacking, that is normal. That is common. If you're one that can skip a meal here and there and you don't feel so hungry that you've got to grab the first sweet thing, okay, fine. But we really owe it to ourselves to treat our digestive systems with care because it is how you absorb nutrition. It is where you're getting all the value from eating in the first place. I know it all tastes good, but The only reason we really eat is to get the nutrition to sustain healthy bodies.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay. So, and I might have already heard you answer this in the past, but I probably have forgotten it. Why is it so hard to break the habit of eating some of the things we're talking about?
SPEAKER 06 :
I think part of it is our taste buds get used to it. We aren't running our metabolism correctly because we're not breaking down our food. So if that's the case, we're eating food, we can't break down, we're not getting nutrients from it, the energy cycle in the body isn't being made, so now we need that cup of coffee, now we need that sugar, now we need that chocolate bar or that granola bar or that Oreo cookie, and it's because we're unable to get the proper nutrition from our food in the first place. If you have a symptom of gas, bloating, indigestion, constipation, diarrhea, acid reflux, any of those are simply... your body's saying, yeah, we didn't break that food down. And what we need is those nutrients, and we need to be able to make enzymes to break down those foods. So for years and years, I've been telling people, I think more than a multivitamin, it's more important to take a high-quality digestive enzyme so that you can break down the foods that you're eating so that you can run your metabolism. You can lose weight. You can have more energy. You can sleep better. Your skin improves. Your hormonal system is now balanced. And it all starts with, can you break down your food? That's the digestive enzymes that I use. It's called Absorbade. But they do the trick because they're helping people that eat well or don't eat well.
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Those of you listening, trust me, I am living proof. They work well in... Several different ways, by the way. I'm going to give some of you a little bit of a tip on this. I know I've talked about this in the past, but I've gotten the point now, Dr. Julie, to where we went on vacation over the holidays. I take a bottle with me now. I'll keep some of them even in my backpack as I'm on the plane because it never fails when you're flying. Things just tend to get bloated and you just don't feel as well. At least I don't. Maybe other people don't have that problem, but I sure do. And I've learned that I can take a couple of those even mid-flight or even before I get on the plane. and it helps out immensely. The other thing that I've started doing, and I feel like it helps me, I think it helps with sleep and other things, is I take them right before bed as well.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, I mean, that's sort of the unknown power of them as well. I like that you brought that up because swollen ankles, swollen joints, inflammation, sore back, puffiness, all those things, when you take them on an empty stomach, help to break down inflammation in the body, bacteria, toxins, viruses. And then when you take it with a meal... you now break down your meals so that you get the nutrition that we're talking about.
SPEAKER 04 :
And for those of you listening, really quick, Dr. Julie, if they want a sample of that, how do they do that?
SPEAKER 06 :
They can go to the website or call the 1-800 number. The website is naturesources.com, and they can read about the different forms it comes in and ask for some free samples, or they can use the code radio and call the 1-800 number, which is 1-800-827-7000. 7-6-5-6, ask for some free samples or 20% off your first order. They've made it easy for you to just check it out. And, I mean, how much easier could it be? See how they do for you and, you know, experiment with it. I can't say enough about them.
SPEAKER 04 :
You know what? Again, I've learned from you through the years, and it took me a while to be more religious about it. But once I've, you know, here's what happens. Once you learn that these things really work the way that we talk and you have just a few experiences of, wow, I got rid of whatever that was I ate that was really giving me a touch of heartburn or indigestion or whatever it happened to be. You know, you only have to do that a couple of times, Dr. Julie, before pretty soon you're carrying these things everywhere you go.
SPEAKER 06 :
It's absolutely true. I have a bowl sitting out on my counter, so I never forget to take them. when I'm eating, and also a small little thing of it in my purse as well for the exact same reason.
SPEAKER 04 :
They work, and for those of you listening, and I don't know, I mean, I guess, Dr. Julie, if you took too much of anything, it might be a problem, but you're not going to OD on these things. They're not that kind of a pill at all. It's something that, frankly, will help you, and yeah, I'm not going to tell you to go take a fistful of them, but take one, two, whatever you feel like you need off of what you just ate. If you take one and it doesn't seem like it's doing enough, take another.
SPEAKER 06 :
That's right. And they are a vegan formula. So anything, it's like eating too much pineapple. You might get a bellyache. So it's super easy. It's simple. Kids can take it. A lot of my patients, dogs. Yeah, great point. they put it for their dog food so that the dogs actually get more nutrition from their meals as well. Great idea.
SPEAKER 04 :
These things work, folks. I cannot stress that enough. And I had somebody text in, a good friend of mine also, Dr. Julie, that said, you know, your body gets used to eating what you feed it, meaning that you'll crave the things you eat the most, so you've got to change those habits to get those cravings adjusted.
SPEAKER 06 :
It is true, and truly, you do start to look forward to green vegetables once you start to put them in on a regular basis.
SPEAKER 04 :
Absolutely. Dr. Julie, as always, I appreciate it. If folks want to learn more about you and your practice, how do they find you?
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I have a practice called Florida Wellness Institute in Clearwater, Florida, and I have an Instagram called DrJulieHealthyVibes.
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Julie, it's always a joy having you. I always look forward to it. I'm looking forward to 2025, and thanks for all that you've done for us. Thank you so much.
SPEAKER 06 :
You as well.
SPEAKER 04 :
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All right, several of you texting in, by the way. Thank you, by the way. I appreciate each and every text message. Somebody gave me a great little tip on some snacks that actually I probably will try. I was going to tell Charlie this during the break, but I didn't get a chance to. At Costco, you can get fully cooked chicken breast bites or steak bites for free. Oh, they do? Oh, Charlie said the chicken ones taste just like Chick-fil-A. Thank you. Charlie, I didn't know that. Okay, so there's a little tip for some of you looking on the snack end of things. And somebody also asked me that here at the station, as I get ready to go on air, if I'm needing any kind of a quote-unquote pick-me-up, do I have a Red Bull or Diet Coke or a candy bar or anything along those lines? And Charlie can be my witness. No, I do not. I don't know, I guess just since losing weight all the way back in 2010, I might have occasionally a part of a granola bar, something really that we were just talking about with Dr. Julie, and I try to pick out the best ones of those. And to her point, there's not that many of them. But I may do something along those lines if I'm really, I don't know, maybe had something happen to where I just need that extra little, you know, pick me up or not feeling, you know, 100 percent or something. I might do something along those lines. But, yeah, no, I am. In fact, I will be the first to tell you that. And I'm not bragging about this. I can't tell you what Red Bull tastes like because I've never had one. Charlie has. I have not. I've never had a Red Bull. And I'm not a Diet Coke person. So a lot of people I know are. I'm not. In fact, I'm not much of a Coke soft drink person, period. My wife will even attest to that. I might have one on a rare treat type occasion. And for me, it really is a treat to have something along those lines. It's just not that often that I have that. a soft drink. It's just not something that we around our house make a habit of. I try to eat as clean as I can, as you guys all know. Am I perfect? Far from it. I still eat things at times that I shouldn't, but I do my best to try to eat clean, and I hope all of you do as well. All right, that's it for this Health and Wellness Wednesday. We've got another hour coming your way. Don't go anywhere. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
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Average guys.
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Average guys.
In this riveting episode of Rush to Reason, host John Rush explores the complexities of identity and self-definition with guest Richard Battle. The conversation delves into the pitfalls of pigeonholing and how societal perceptions often constrain individuals to limited roles. Richard shares personal anecdotes and narratives like that of Michael Adkins, emphasizing the potential of rewriting personal stories despite societal expectations. Listen as they unpack the importance of lifelong learning and volunteerism as avenues for self-discovery and skill expansion. The episode not only challenges the status quo but also inspires listeners to see beyond conventional labels to foster deeper understanding and collaboration. Whether in corporate settings or personal networks, discover how trust plays a pivotal role in unlocking individual potential and enhancing relationships. Towards the end, the discussion shifts gears to address the significance of accuracy and integrity in social media sharing, especially for conservatives. Uncover the importance of verifying facts before dissemination, as this discussion threads valuable insights on maintaining credibility in a world inundated with misinformation.
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This is Rush to Reason.
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You are going to shut your damn yapper and listen for a change because I got you pegged, sweetheart. You want to take the easy way out because you're scared. And you're scared because if you try and fail, there's only you to blame. Let me break this down for you. Life is scary. Get used to it. There are no magical fixes.
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With your host, John Rush.
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My advice to you is to do what your parents did. Get a job, sir. You haven't made everybody equal. You've made them the same and there's a big difference.
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Let me tell you why you're here. You're here because you know something. What you know you can't explain, but you feel it. You've felt it your entire life. That there's something wrong with the world. You don't know what it is, but it's there. It is this feeling that has brought you to me.
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Are you crazy? Am I? Or am I so sane that you just blew your mind?
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It's Rush to Reason with your host, John Rush. Presented by High Five Plumbing, Heating, Cooling, and Electric, where every call ends with a high five.
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And we are back. Hour number two, Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Richard Battle joining us now. Richard, welcome. How are you today? Good afternoon, John. We're doing great. Thanks for having us again. Don't allow yourself to be pigeonholed.
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Well, one of the things that I noticed years ago, and you may have experienced it as well, is people, all of us, me included, we have a tendency to see people as they are, not as they completely are or can be. And so we pigeonhole people in those places. And for example, I was a corporate guy for many years and did some of the things I'm doing now, but not as many. And when I left the corporate world, people who saw me in the corporate world had a hard time seeing me as an author and a speaker and commentator, et cetera, and vice versa. People here have a hard time seeing me as a corporate guy. You may have experienced that with the auto business you've been in as well as radio.
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I can tell you on numerous occasions, especially when I was younger, business for myself, when you'd go to some dinner party or whatever and people would ask what you do and then you'd tell them and they'd get this look on their face like, ooh, you do what? So I finally got to the point, Richard, and this is not a joke. I finally got to the point where they'd say, what do you do for a living? I'd say, I'm into oil. Which I wasn't lying, Richard.
SPEAKER 15 :
Now you can say you're a land man.
SPEAKER 10 :
Exactly. And the funny thing about that was when you would say that, they'd never ask anything else. You just kind of move along and it wasn't any big deal. Back to your whole point of the pigeonholeness.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, yes. And they ask what you do versus who you are. Right. And who you are, I think, gives us an ability to define ourselves in a broader context and And that to me is more complete and better because myself, I need to know who people are so I can understand not only what they do now, but look for potential for the future as well.
SPEAKER 10 :
And I understand that there are, in some cases, when you find out what somebody does, you can dovetail into who they are and what they do outside of that and so on. And if you ask follow-up questions to, hey, what do you do for a living, or what is it you do back in such and such, or whatever the case may be, I'm one where I'm always asking more I guess because I'm self-employed as well, Richard, I know what it's like to be on the other end of the stick. I don't ever just say, what do you do? I always like to ask further things so that you're really delving into them as a person, not just what they do for a living.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yes, exactly. And one of the greatest examples that really brought my awareness up on this years ago was going into a volunteer organization, and people are pigeonholed there all the time. That's right. I was thrown into fundraising, and the accountants were thrown into being the treasurer, and someone in administration would be thrown into being the secretary, and one of the great things about volunteerism is it gives you an opportunity to explore other areas of expertise and learn new things if you don't allow yourself to be pigeonholed.
SPEAKER 10 :
That's exactly right. But you're right. I mean, a lot of times, and this is some of the faults that happen inside of the whole ministry end of things, if you would, or inside the church world, is they tend to think that, well, if this is what you do, this is all you can do, when nothing could be farther from the truth.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yes, that's exactly correct. I spoke last month to a men's group at the church I go to, and a motivational type speech and everything, and I had several people comment afterwards that they never saw that side of me or didn't realize that side existed. And so it's always nice to see that kind of positive smile on people's face when they can see you beyond what they know about you.
SPEAKER 10 :
So here's a question. This may be a little off topic, but, you know, you're in that setting. Somebody says, you know, what do you do? And you could be funny or you could make a joke or you could do even I did and, you know, be sort of a roundabout answer. But, you know, is there an ability? I guess, Richard, what I'm asking is instead of just saying, you know, hey, I'm a talk show host or I'm a business owner, I'm this or I'm that. You know, what about adding something else to that that, you know, and I'm also a grandfather of nine.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, I think so, and my description has evolved over time, and I think all of us should evolve our descriptions as we grow and have different capabilities. And so what I would answer right now if somebody asked me what do I do, I would say I influence future generations.
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Good answer.
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And I would hope that they would say, wow, what's that mean? How do you do that? And then that would give me an opportunity to define different things that I hope helps me to influence future generations.
SPEAKER 10 :
Good one. Give us the Michael Adkins example.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, this, and he's from the Denver area.
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I see that.
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Somebody I'd read about four or five years ago, and hopefully the story's still positive, but here he was in African America, and he was a student at a school. Then he went to be a part-time custodian, full-time custodian, paraprofessional custodian, then he became an assistant principal, and then a principal. So he climbed the ladder from the very bottom to the top of a school, and his grandmother had always told him, don't let other people write your story, write your own story. But between any racial obstacles and any obstacles of perception that maybe he could only be a custodian or some other position, for example, he did not allow those perceptions to stop him from growing and becoming more as a person and as a professional.
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In your notes here, how can we achieve more and avoid being pigeonholed? Of course, you've talked about it, be a lifelong learner, stretch yourself outside of those roles. One of the things on here, though, which I struggle with, because I don't know why, but this is an area just personally, Richard, I struggle with, is inform others of your accomplishments, not to brag, but to enable them to see your potential. That's an area, I'll just be straight up honest, I don't do well.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yes, and I don't feel comfortable doing much of that either. But a lot of times, unless we tell somebody that we've done something in a factual way, they won't know. And the same thing if you're working in a corporation, for example, if they don't know that you've led a Boy Scout group or a Girl Scout group or led a Little League team or the United Way or some other type of thing, If your employers and management don't know that, then they can't factor that in any career opportunities for you. So I think how we do it's important and not just say, look at me, how good I am. It's here's an experience I have, which makes me, I hope, a better person to contribute everywhere I have the opportunity.
SPEAKER 10 :
One of the things that I think, and my own advice along those lines, is when you're in these discussions, first things first, Richard, listen to what those around you are saying. In other words, don't be the first one to come out and say these things, but let other people have the opportunity to share who they are, what they do, and so on. Eventually, it's going to come around to you anyways, and you can share at that point. But what I've learned is by listening and being that person where you're not trying to butt in and cut in and get your two cents in – more people are apt to listen at that point than when you're the first one speaking.
SPEAKER 15 :
That's absolutely true. And to add one more thing to your previous comment, there's one accomplishment that I have that I've never in 40 years been the one to tell people about it. If they know about it, they know about it from other people saying something or from them reading about it. I've never discussed that one. So there are limits to things that I would do and Everyone has to kind of pick and choose how they do that.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, and again, by all means, Richard, I am not an expert in a lot of these areas, still learning as we go myself. That's why we talk on a weekly basis as well. But I do think that people appreciate those that are around listening to even their story, and you earn some respect from them by doing so.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yes, absolutely. And that is one of the things that helps endear trust. And to me, trust is the coin of the realm, because without trust between two people, you can never advance a relationship. Without trust in a business relationship, you can never advance the business. And so listening and understanding and acknowledging and commenting about somebody's story are all things that endear trust.
SPEAKER 10 :
I had a text message a moment ago, which this one I hadn't thought about, but very true. When you grow up in a small town, you're always who you were in high school. So if you were the star quarterback, guess what, Richard? In that small town, you always are.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, that's exactly the case. I had to go back to my high school in October for an event. I hadn't been in a long time. And I was talking to our star quarterback, and I kept getting elbowed by these women that would knock me over almost to go over there and give a hug to me all these years later, which was a perfect example of that.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yep. And by the way, whoever texted that, thank you. I hadn't really thought about that, but that's very true. And by the way, that can even be true inside of our own families, Richard, where if you grow up and everybody thinks of you, in my case today especially, I was always the auto technician, auto mechanic, owned auto shops, which I don't today. But yet, I think for a lot of folks inside of my own family, I still do.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, and see, that's why it's so important for them to know what you do now with the radio and things so they can see that broader context and how that's communicated, I think. can be effective to do it versus coming across like you're just bragging.
SPEAKER 10 :
Good point. Good point. All right. For those of you listening, Richard, how do they find you? How do they get a book? And I know it might sound early for a lot of you listening, but trust me, it's not. Graduation, spring break, all of that, Richard. I know it sounds a long way away, but it will be here before you know it.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yes, it will. And thank you. So All 11 books I have are available on Amazon under Richard V. Battle, including Kindle and audio. At the website, richardbattle.com, everything's available printed, and all books are signed. If someone wants an inscription to personalize a gift, email me, richard, at richardbattle.com. And we're happy to do that, and we're happy to converse or exchange with listeners as well. Anything we can do to be of help, we want to do.
SPEAKER 10 :
Richard, you're always awesome. I appreciate it. I learned I had several comments, by the way, on what we're talking about today and how informative it is. And thank you. I learn each week as well. So I appreciate you very much.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, it's always my pleasure, and I'm learning with you. And we say God bless America as we do every week.
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Putting reason into your afternoon drive. This is John Rush.
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All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Okay, I know Monday. I had mentioned that be careful what you repost on social media because there's a lot of things out there that, frankly, will turn out to not be true when it comes to the fires and so on, and be really careful making sure that we're accurate, especially as conservatives, when we repost things. And I gave the example of the red-roofed house in the midst of the fire that supposedly a Christian man owned, and to caption something along the lines of, see what happens to Christians, basically. I'm paraphrasing, but... That was kind of the picture in the meme, and that went viral. It went out there. It's false. It's been proven to be false. It's an AI-generated house. You can go onto Google or whatever and generate some of these images, and that's where that particular image came from, so that is false. Now, there is a story out there, and this one's true, of an architect that built a house, and his, for the most part, didn't have a lot of damage. It didn't burn to the ground. It's still standing. And there's a story about how that happened, what he designed the materials with, what he did with his home, what he did to prepare the home before he left, opening gates, doing all sorts of things along those lines to where he tried to do the best he could to make sure that fire would not affect his house. Now, that's a true story. And that one's out there. That one's not getting quite the social media attention. response that of course the red roof house is is because it doesn't quite fit what a lot of people would rather see with the red roof house there's another one and i've seen this one more than once and i should have checked it earlier i apologize i should have even mentioned this on monday but i didn't there's another meme floating around about the blm founder losing two of her three homes in the fire Now, I did a little bit of checking. This one, nobody else has done any fact-checking on that I know of. But from the research that I've done, that one is most likely false. And here's why. The three homes that she bought, one was out of state, out of California. One was in Englewood, California, and the other one is in South LA. Neither one of them in the area of the fires that just happened in California. So my gut feeling is, and she hasn't commented on this yet, they've reached out and she hasn't commented. And by the way, I'm not giving the BLM founder a pass because she used funds in a way that shouldn't have been used to buy these homes in the first place. That's a story in and of itself that I've talked about in the past. But I'm not going to spread false rumors about her losing those two homes. And, of course, there's something along the lines in the caption of, you know, imagine this. You know, she lost her homes and blah, blah, blah. And, you know, I'm not reading it word for word. I don't have it in front of me. Don't care. Bottom line, it's most likely not true. But yet those things get spread. And again, they get spread because it's what people want, which I understand. But if it isn't true and you spread it, how dumb do you look? And I'm sorry, but it makes us look dumb. And I've seen some people that I have a lot of respect for that have shared some of these things. There's some other people that I have little to no respect for that I've also seen share these. But again, at the end of the day, don't share things that you don't know to be true just because you would like it to be. and in your heart you would like it to be, that doesn't make it true, nor does it mean we should share and spread that particular item, that particular quote-unquote news. So, again, be really careful. I say it a lot, but I mean it because there's nothing in my opinion—I don't think I'm wrong in this— But there's nothing more damaging to us as conservatives and as Christians than to spread things on your own social media page that are blatantly false that you didn't bother to take the time to check out yourself. You went ahead and reposted anyways. It makes you look really stupid. I'll just be straight up honest. So please, I say it a lot and I mean it, double check these things before you just click repost and add whatever your own comments are to it. Be really careful what you repost. because in a lot of cases you're going to find that that particular item, that particular post, that particular meme may not be true. So I found the one about the BLM founder. Tragedy strikes twice for BLM founder Patrice Cullors as two of her three L.A. mansions are consumed by wildfires. So right off the top, you know that's not a true statement because she didn't have three in the first place. She had three, but not in L.A. But again, these are, and by the way, there's a little caption here, by Robert Gibson for ABC News. Anybody can put these things in any time they want. You can make pictures, especially in today's world, in regards to AI, you can make a picture look like it's as real as real can be, even though it is 1,000% false. And again, I cannot stress enough that you have to be so diligent now. And with AI, it's going to get worse. But you have to be extremely diligent to make sure that the things that you're posting are true and accurate and factual. And here's my advice. This is what I do. If I can't prove it, don't post it. That's my motto. If I can't prove that it's true, I'm not posting it. Now, I get it. Some people just like the likes and the attention and so on, and so they're going to post to make sure that they're one step ahead of everybody else. But I would highly recommend and suggest that, A, you don't do that. You really only post the things that you know are factual and true, and if they're not, stay away from it. Because, again, at the end of the day, we want to be factual, we want to be true, and we want to make sure that the things that we post can be fact-checked. And I'm not talking fact-checked by, you know, the fact-checkers at Facebook, which should be going away. I'm talking about all of the other things that go on. I even heard on one of our other programs here, not gonna throw names out or anything along those lines, but there was a guest of one of our other programs that I just happened to be listening to the other day. And this person was talking about the water situation that Joe from Jersey called in Monday about, where there's this couple that the internet claims own most of California's water, literally. And this particular person on this show was reiterating that same story and what she did, and it's a her, but what she did, in my opinion, is discredit herself from anything else she says. I'm sorry, but you do. If you're not willing and able to go check some of these stories, to double check to see if they're true, how can I believe anything else you're saying? Because at this point, now all you become is a conspiracy theorist regurgitating what somebody else has told you. And how do I know you're factual at all in anything you say? And by the way, this is a person that's very well known. This is a national person that was on another program that I heard. And when this person said that, I'll just be straight up honest, not that she had a lot of credibility with me in the first place, but she lost all when she did that. If you're that lazy that you can't go out and fact check some of these things on your own, which, as Joe said from Jersey on Monday, that one was a simple Google search. And within about 30 seconds, you'd have the answers you need to realize that that's not true. But yet this person's looking at a meme, looking at a story, whatever, repeating it without double checking first. They want it to be true. So they believe it to be true. They're now going to respread that, in this particular case, going on the airwaves and even talking about it. Totally wrong. Shouldn't happen that way. And I do my very best here to not do that, folks. 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And we are back, Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Sunny Karcher joining us now. Sunny, welcome. How are you?
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I'm doing well. Thanks for having me, as always.
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Safe from the fires, I hope.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yes, this week it seems much better. Though you said the wind was, of course, you know, I... I believe the media is the enemy of the people. I know that they want us to be prepared, but they were really hyping up the week this week and the wind this week, excuse me. And I am not seeing any wind at all. So that's actually a good thing. You know, the fires are still being contained, but I think they're doing a really good job and just an absolute standing ovation for our fire department. I really looked into what their job really is like. last week and this week because you know I've been feeling so helpless you want to know okay what are they doing you know what is this process like and just kind of learning about how they deal with fires like this regardless of what happened and where it came from but they really do such an incredible job while risking their lives and sacrificing their lives and their families to protect the people. That is what our public servants should be doing. And we know that they're not, but that's another story.
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Agree, agree. No, and by the way, thank you for saying that, because I can't disagree with anything you just said. All right, though, talk to us, though. And this is something I haven't talked much about yet, and believe it or not, and you would think it'd be top of mind, but I just haven't spent much time here. You being... Of your age, probably better at this than I anyways, talk to us about the TikTok ban.
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So the TikTok ban is coming. There was a law that came into place several months ago that TikTok or the parent company of TikTok, ByteDance, had to either sell the app or face being banned. Okay. I personally don't support the ban. I think this is, you know, a wolf in sheep's clothing type of situation. It is exactly what we saw when, you know, they wanted to protect Americans with the Patriot Act and used a crisis to usher in more control, more access to citizens' privacy and private information. Similarly to what we discussed with the FinCEN, BOI reporting with small businesses and I personally believe there are nefarious motives of those in our government who are using the fear of the CCP, which, of course, is a real thing.
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Absolutely.
SPEAKER 09 :
They're using that to ban this app, which is widely used, also does put money into the economy. Let's just take it there. It does.
SPEAKER 10 :
Really quick, two things, Sunny, really quick. It does, it puts money back in the economy. A lot of these creators are making money, which you know, and we could get into the explanation of that if some of you listening don't understand that. But on top of that, Sunny, I know just from viewing a lot of things, there's also a lot of not, you know, it's not always good information. There's some conspiracy stuff and so on that gets shoved out there and you got to do your own fact finding. But on the same token... There's a lot of good information, self-help, all sorts of things that go on as well. In other words, it's not all just, you know, 10-year-olds running around, sorry, 15-year-olds running around dancing.
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Absolutely. And, of course, you know, TikTok does, you know, tailor the content that you see. However, yeah, I would agree. I think actually there has been a lot of topics discussed on TikTok such as the drones that have been seen in the sky that do continue to get banned on TikTok. In fact, there's a whole, you know, funny thing about it. They started calling them Dior bags because they were trying to circumvent the shadow banning of those videos talking about drones and the things that they're seeing in the sky because what if they're coming from China, you know? Right. So I'm not saying that TikTok is, you know, is clear of what they're doing here.
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But really quick, Sunny, that you could apply that to, you know, I agree with you, by the way, number one. But on the second hand, you could say that about Google. You could say that about Meta. I mean, you could go down the list of some of the other folks that are out there in that same space. None of them are innocent. Absolutely.
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Absolutely. They're not innocent. Again, you know, this is just like what they've done with other laws, where they want to get more information. But now, see, the thing is that because TikTok is banned, people are flocking to this other Chinese-owned app called, well, it's a Chinese name, but it actually translates to, get this, Little Red Book.
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Oh, jeez.
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Which is, ironically, or... The Americans are calling it red notes. I guess that's the American translation, because they don't want people to hear a little red book. For those people who don't know what that is, or maybe you've heard of it and don't know all the context around that, Mao Zedong, China's brutal communist dictator, had his own little red book, which was a pocket-sized propaganda book. tool that brainwashed millions of young people into carrying out his violent cultural revolution, which left over 60 million people dead. Many people have these, even American communists, it was a thing back in the day of people would have this book on their wall or on their, you know, in their library or or in their family rooms or sitting rooms to show their loyalty to the CCP, a tiny communist party. So this tool is a propaganda tool, and this new app has even stricter censorship rules than TikTok does and actually warns their users outright. not to post anything, quote, politically sensitive. People are already talking about their videos that have been banned. Bethany Frankel is huge on TikTok. She's like the queen of TikTok. And she's been talking about her first video was taken down because she doesn't even know why.
SPEAKER 10 :
Interesting. You know what? You're teaching me something right now when it comes to the red note thing. I thank you because I knew nothing about this.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, yeah, and it's definitely becoming, you know, TikTok is, of course, very popular among the younger generation, Gen Z and Alpha. But why are they, they can't see the contradiction here where the whole controversy about TikTok was, you know, they're stealing our information. Now they're going directly to this new one without even knowing the, you know, irony of its name and engaging with this regime that is responsible for genocide. I thought they cared about that, right? Yeah.
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Do you think that TikTok will ultimately be banned, or do you feel like even if the ban takes place, do you feel like even within a few days you'll see somebody like, I mean, there's been all sorts of individuals like Mr. Wonderful from Shark Tank himself talking about maybe figuring out a way to buy TikTok. Elon Musk has even talked about it. Do you feel like something like that will happen when it's all said and done?
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Actually, I do. I think this was a bunch of hype to try to, who knows what the motives are on every side of this or every angle of this. But I also just heard that I think Trump is saying that President Trump is going to suspend the ban and try to work out a deal there, even though formerly he had supported the TikTok ban. So there's a lot of interesting angles here, but I just feel like it's a Trojan horse.
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I don't know that I can disagree with you. In fact, it could very well have been a way for, given where we're at at the 11th hour, for even those that own TikTok. And yes, some say it's direct Chinese. There's another individual involved and so on. But it could also be, Sonny, a way to pump up the price so that at the end of the day, they end up getting more money out of it now than they would have, say, six months ago.
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Precisely. You know, it's interesting. I'm reading an article here, ironically, from the ACLU, which doesn't support the TikTok ban. And they're bringing up a really interesting precedent that happened in 1965, which was that the court struck down a law Oh, so let me start here. So courts have long held that the government cannot keep Americans from accessing foreign propaganda. Of course, they're going to be supporting that. In 1965, the court struck down a law that required the postmaster general to detain, quote, communist political propaganda agents. which could be delivered to recipients only after they specifically requested it from the U.S. Post Office. So here you go. We're trying to protect you, but you have to let us know if you want to see communist propaganda. Sounds like they're putting your name on a list to know that you're a communist, right? It is just so frustrating, right? And this goes to my point that I really wanted to hammer home here, especially in light of the nomination hearings that started this week. We must hold our public servants accountable. I've been starting to use that phrase, public servants. That's what they are. They work for us and we need to hold them accountable. If they are bad at their job, they should be fired, period.
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Absolutely. No, I like that. I think that's exactly what we need to be doing. And part of the problem with the whole TikTok thing, and I said this back when all this was going on, and I will continue to hammer this. We have a bunch of politicians. Some, Sonny, have been there five decades, and I'm not exaggerating. that are now going to make rules, laws on things that, quite frankly, Sonny, they have no clue how some of this technology and how that end of things work. And I'm not exaggerating. I'm guessing if some of them didn't have AIDS, they may not even know how to access e-mail correctly and or even get it on their phone in the first place. And I am not wrong in what I'm saying there. So we've got a bunch of literally – technologically illiterate individuals on Capitol Hill making policy and law about technology that, frankly, they shouldn't be doing in the first place?
SPEAKER 09 :
Couldn't agree more. If they really want to protect us from China, why don't we figure out what the heck is going on with the spy balloons and the drones that are flying around all of our coasts? And aren't the protect us from China that has already come out and said that they'll see a video of thousands of robots and drones walking around.
SPEAKER 10 :
The corporate espionage, to your point, Sunny, just crack down on a lot of the corporate spying, espionage, stealing that's gone on for now decades upon decades. I mean, there's so many other things, frankly, that we could be worrying about rather than this. And the reality is, and I've said this numerous times, You know, if China wants to spy on us, they're going to anyways. And now I also want to say that, you know, do I think we should just hand it to him on a silver platter? Of course not. And this is where we need technologically skilled people making laws around this so that there's ways to monitor. and handle and make sure that, you know, for example, right now, all the TikTok data is stored by Oracle in Texas on their servers there. Okay, fine. Let's make sure we have enough smart people around to double check and assure that those things are happening. And by the way, there's a way to do that. And if that's being done, then let TikTok move forward.
SPEAKER 09 :
Right. And again, this is just all in the name of protecting the people. You know, I wonder where they, you know, it was our justice system that targeted our own people.
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Right.
SPEAKER 09 :
You know, for being extremist because they went to a school board meeting, but they can't figure out how to protect us from a giant adversary like China.
SPEAKER 10 :
We have an ex-president who's now going to be the current president that they targeted, and lots of other people, by the way, that were around him, and to your point, parents that went to school board meetings, and by the way, others that had their Second Amendment rights violated because of ATF search and seizures in the middle of the night that shouldn't have happened at all. I mean, I can go down the list, Sonny, of all the different things that have happened along those lines, and we're worried about TikTok?
SPEAKER 09 :
It's a distraction. And they truly, I think, you know, it'll be interesting to see if it does go dark for some time because, you know, I read something about the fires taking out, you know, all of these high-profile celebrity homes and someone saying, you know, they're taking away the bread and let the circus happen, right? So it's just really interesting because I think people are really waking up to the contradictions and the hypocrisy that we are seeing. And hopefully... you know, President Trump will be able to expose the truth and let the people see some of these things that we've been asking questions about for some time now.
SPEAKER 10 :
Can't disagree with that at all. All right, Young Americans Against Socialism, you guys are out there trying to teach young people, especially a lot of the things that we're talking about right now. Frankly, for all of you listening as well, believe it or not, TikTok and a lot of the, not a lot, but there have been some content creators on TikTok that, frankly, Sunny, have done a really good job of what we're even talking about, surprisingly enough. But at the end of the day, Young Americans Against Socialism, you guys are doing a great job in teaching young people about the very things we talk about each week. How do folks find you and support you?
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Yeah, we're really passionate about this mission because it is so important to recognize and understand these red flags of socialism and communism, propaganda, the tactics that the radical left uses. and how it was all rooted in deception and lies. And so you can go to our website, yaas.org, Y-A-A-S.org, and check out our resources there. We have a guide coming out, a learning guide coming out this week about the inauguration day, all about the history, the traditions, and what it really means to be an American and why this ceremony is so important. So we're really excited to share more resources like this, teaching kids about what the American dream means, how important American values are, and how to recognize and challenge anybody who is supporting radical ideology. And you can check out our Instagram as well for more everyday content on current issues and topics like the ones we discussed today, Yas underscore America.
SPEAKER 10 :
Awesome. As always, Sunny, I appreciate it very much. Stay safe, and we will talk again next week.
SPEAKER 09 :
Thanks so much. You bet.
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All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. And for those of you hopefully looking outside, we continue to get more daylight each and every day, which I am thankful for because typically by this time of night, it's already dark. And I mean like super dark. So every day we just keep adding to, which I am extremely thankful for. So... I did not get a chance to watch, and maybe some of you did. I saw little excerpts here and there of some takeaways, I guess I should say, of some of the confirmation hearings. And I even had somebody texting me back and forth on Pete Hegseth's hearings and how well did I think he was doing and so on. And keep in mind, there will be a big difference between somebody like Pete versus a Pam Bondi. Pam's a politician. She's been around some of this stuff before. She's very eloquent, easy on the eye, of course, and just does very well in front of the camera. She, of course, is always going to do better debating, especially right now in her career. She's going to be doing a much better job debating those attacks that are coming her way from knucklehead senators on the other side of the aisle. Pete, on the other hand, he needs a little bit of work on some of it. Even though he's been in TV and he does very well in front of the camera, there's a difference between being in front of the camera and debating in front of the camera. And in a lot of ways, that's what he's doing right now. Now, some of you say, well, it's not really a debate. He just has to answer questions. The way some of these things are coming at him and the way they're attacking, it's a debate. Wouldn't you agree, Charlie? It's a debate. Yeah, they're trying to – thank you, Charlie. Thank you. They're trying to trick you into certain things at certain times. And I'm not saying he's doing a bad job, by the way, because I don't think he is. What I'm saying is there's a big difference between somebody that's seasoned at this versus somebody that is not. And even though, again, and a lot of people, I think, thought Pete would just kind of run through this because of his background in television, it's not the same. And he's learning that right now. And he'll be fine. And I do think he'll get confirmed when it's all said and done. And a lot of the attacks that have come his way, he's done a really good job of defending, if you would, or coming back at. But there are times where I wish he was a little bit more pointed in getting right back at some of these senators. And he's not. But again, this isn't his wheelhouse. It's not what he's used to be doing. He hasn't even sat in this chair, for example. I'm not saying that I know more about it than he does, but I'm more prone to be in that position to handle it than he is because of what I do each day. And that's not to brag. It's just what you're used to. Is that a good way to say that, Charlie? It's what you're comfortable with, what you're familiar with. It would be like... Tucker Carlson being in his position, going through confirmation and answering senators' questions versus him. Is that a good way to say that, Charlie? Tucker does this stuff for a living. He's going back and forth and debating a lot of these people on an ongoing basis. Pete doesn't. So it's sort of refinement under fire with Pete, and he will get better at this. Trust me, I do think he'll get confirmed. And do I think he's a good pick? Actually, yes, I think he's a good pick. Would he have been my first pick? Probably not. But now that he's in it, will he do fine when it's all said and done? Absolutely. One of the things that they kept trying to catch him on was he has said in the past that once you're in the military, you end up being a general and you retire, you should not be allowed to go right away and work for one of the defense contractors that are out there, which I agree. So they asked him the same question. Well, you'll be head of defense. Are you going to make the same pledge? He's like, I'm not a general. Now, I would have deferred and probably said that a little bit differently, but again, this is Pete. He's not used to this. He's getting a lot of these things thrown at him, and you have no idea what these questions are going to be on the front side. You're just answering them on the fly. All in all, I think he's done a pretty good job, to be honest with you. So we'll be back in just a moment. Don't forget when it comes to insurance. I know we talk a lot about that with everything going on in California. I cannot stress to you enough how important it is to be properly insured. My good friend Paul Leuenberger would love to help you with that. 303-662-0789 is how you find him.
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All right, we are back. And yeah, Charlie just said in my ear during the break, it's that old, you know, catch 22 question, you know, the gotcha question. Tell me when you stop beating your wife. That's the kind of stuff they're throwing at Pete to where, you know, no matter what he does, it's not the right answer. And I think the American public, Charlie agrees, will see through some of that and realize that you guys are just a bunch of knuckleheads. And by the way. A lot of them are. You've heard me talk about that when it comes to politicians on a routine basis. Got another full hour coming your way. Don't go anywhere. Hour three is next. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
In this episode of Rush to Reason, host John Rush is joined by Alex Rosado to delve deep into the current state of community banking in America. They discuss the challenges small banks face post-Dodd-Frank Act, how it affects entrepreneurs, and what it means for the free market. With big banks absorbing smaller players, personalized banking is becoming scarce, impacting local businesses profoundly. John and Alex articulate the significance of locally tailored banking solutions that foster competition and economic success. They navigate the intricate relationship between government regulations and their unintended consequences on small financial institutions, small business owners, and the economy at large. Their conversation sheds light on the need for reform and the potential hope looming on the horizon with new government leadership. This episode offers insight into the potential future of banking regulation changes and what it could mean for the average consumer. Tune in to hear their perspectives on sustaining economic vibrancy through community-focused banking and maintaining a balanced approach to market competition.
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All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Hour number three is upon us. Alex Rosado joining us now. Alex, welcome. How are you? Rosado, I should say. Let me make sure I say that right, Alex.
SPEAKER 09 :
You're all good. Thank you so much for having me.
SPEAKER 19 :
I appreciate it. I talked about you a little bit yesterday with another guest that I had on because of the whole small business, banking, the reality that that end of things has changed for a lot of different places across the country. Community banks are not doing well. There hasn't been very many chartered, I think, since 2011. I don't have the number in front of me. You do. But the reality is we have seen a decline since about 2009, and the reality is that's not good for small business, and I'm one of those.
SPEAKER 09 :
No, unfortunately, the situation in America is not so great with community banking, and that is largely because of the Dodd-Frank Act that was passed all the way back in 2009 as a response to the financial crisis that happened in 2008. And to that statistic that you were alluding to earlier, there's about fewer new bank charters and there's a lot less since 2011 with gigantic banks that are worth more than $100 billion worth of assets controlling about 60% of all banking assets today. That's not great for competition or the free market.
SPEAKER 19 :
No, it's not. And it's hard, and maybe you can help me with this, Alex. It's hard to explain to those individuals that maybe just collect a paycheck each week. They work for somebody else, which I'm not against, by the way. But, you know, they might have a bank account at, you know, Wells Fargo or Chase or some of the big guys. And, you know, great. You know, that's fine. I've got nothing against that. You know, those banks have a place in those particular areas in a lot of cases, Alex. But for me personally as a small business owner, those are not – My banks. I have always had a relationship with somebody that I feel is local, that's a part of the community, that knows me, that knows my business. And the reality is that's getting harder and harder to find, to your point, because a lot of the little banks have been absorbed by even larger regional banks, and regional banks get absorbed by the national banks. And before you know it, there's nobody left. And then guys like me who are used to doing business with somebody along those lines, there's no one left to do business with.
SPEAKER 09 :
No, you really hit the nail on the head with that. There's always somebody bigger up on that supply chain. And when it comes to the community banks, most consumers, especially young, hungry entrepreneurs who want to lay the foundation for businesses, other ventures to procure capital, they see that community banking has that personalized and tailored approach that a lot of those regional and gigabanks don't have. Do you think a C-suite executive on Wall Street who worked at Wells Fargo or Chase is going to know the needs and wants of your community?
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No.
SPEAKER 09 :
Probably not.
SPEAKER 19 :
No.
SPEAKER 09 :
But if you have those smaller banks, they're willing to have more risks when it comes to giving you and lending you capital and credit for businesses. But having those power within those big banks that are more risk-averse, especially since the financial crisis, that doesn't really do much to stir a lot of the appetite when it comes to people who want to have economic freedom and success in this country.
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It always cracks me up, too, because when you see the ads for a lot of the big banks, they talk about, you know, we want to be a part of the community and we want to do this and we want to help your business grow and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And the first thought I always have, Alex, I'm not trying to be cynical here, but the first thought I've had has been self-employed since I was. 22 years old, so 1986. I've been self-employed since then. And I've had lots of relationship with banks over the years. And I will tell you that as much as those guys want to put that in those commercials, they rarely back that up with actions.
SPEAKER 09 :
No, and especially when it comes to having grandiose ideas in America, it's become in a sense where you can become defined by what you can't do rather than what you can do when it comes to having economic and entrepreneurial success. And it shouldn't have to be that way.
SPEAKER 19 :
It should be the opposite of that.
SPEAKER 09 :
No, exactly. And especially with some of the restraints that you've seen with the Dodd-Frank Act. It drains a lot of the precious resources from these smaller community banks that could be used for lending. And unfortunately, the loans have dried up in these past couple of years. And while Dodd-Frank was trying to stop the predatory practice of bigger banks, it actually destroyed the innovation of neighborhoods across America.
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Yeah, it actually did. It had the opposite effect, I guess you could say, which, by the way, that is not untypical for government. They try to fix something, and at the end of the day, all they do is make matters worse, and that's pretty typical of government. I'm sorry, but it is.
SPEAKER 09 :
It's a very counterproductive feat, and you've seen that not only with economics but with social policy and trying to tame some of the cultural issues that we have today, and it's a very big interplay between all of these factors. But my pitch to this is that it's not big banks that are the problem.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yep. Thank you. Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. I'm not blaming them either. I mean, they have, like I said earlier, they have a place. They do really well for a lot of the retail consumer goods and credit cards and different things that people need on that end of things. And they have a place, Alex, you know, mortgages and stuff like that. So I'm not saying they don't have a place because they do. But when they start, you know, because of the policy, to your point, when that starts shutting out all of the little local guys that will help folks like me out, that's a problem.
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No, you're exactly correct. It's a place where it's supposed to be competitive, but also a place where you can have and carve out your own niche and footing. And there's no better way to do that, especially within your community, that's going to have different mores and attitudes and viewpoints, especially on economics, because it varies from town to town, village to village, state to state. And that's where the community banking, its uniqueness and its standing shines. But unfortunately, if you have these larger entities that don't quite understand that dynamic and aren't as adaptable to it, you're going to make the whole banking industry less dynamic as a whole. And that hurts a real lot of consumers, especially when it comes to businesses. You've seen that during the COVID pandemic, when a third of small businesses across the country have shut down completely and have not reopened since.
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Do you see the Trump administration, Inauguration Day is Monday, we'll see a lot of things happen on Tuesday. Do you see him and those that are around him understanding what you and I are talking about enough to actually fix this problem?
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I would certainly hope so. There is a brighter future on Monday than there has been in the last four years in terms of economics. But here's the kicker with it. By making sure that everybody in the small community banks gets shut out, it actually enraged everybody across partisan lines. Democrats, Republicans, Libertarians, Independents all want to see Dodd-Frank repealed, and especially with some of the processes that we've seen play out in Congress and even within the administration itself. There is hope that we can have good financial regulatory policy come in. You have Elon Musk, who's going to co-head the Department of Government Efficiency, saying that he wants to roll back one of the main parts of Dodd-Frank, which is the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, which costs consumers a lot of pain in their wallets. And he just wants to take that over, trim the fat off of it, make sure that we have the resources to flourish as people and also as contributors to the economy.
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I know you guys will be watching this. I will as well. How do folks find you, Alex?
SPEAKER 09 :
You can find me on Twitter slash X at Alex P. Rosado.
SPEAKER 19 :
Awesome. I enjoy talking to you, Alex. Appreciate it very much. And we will be looking forward to next Monday. Let's just say that.
SPEAKER 09 :
We will, too. Thank you so much for having me.
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This is Rush to Reason on KLZ 560. All right, talking about TikTok really quick, because I know we were talking to Cindy Kutcher last hour about that, and I was just talking to Charlie. I feel, I could be wrong, but I feel one of Trump's first moves on Tuesday, if not late Monday. will be to stop the TikTok ban, executive order-wise. Now, is it legal? Will it stand? I have no idea. But I predict he will do that for a couple of reasons. One, I think he wants to see it continue on. He understands the value of it. Number two, he will send a message to a large voting bloc that got him elected that says, I'm on your side. So even if it doesn't stand, it'll send a message. Yeah, thank you, Charlie. Even young people that didn't vote for him, that's going to send a message that I'm on your side. So look for that. What comes out of it, I don't know. We'll find out and probably talk about it this time next week after we have a few days of President Trump actually being in office. But that's my prediction. I could be completely wrong. And some of you that don't even know what TikTok is are probably thinking, who cares? Trust me, 170 million Americans. Yes, I just said that. 170 million Americans use TikTok. That is well over, well, about half of all Americans on TikTok. That's not a small number, folks. And there's lots of businesses and so on. Anyways, just look for that. All right, article I read the other day that caught my eye, coloradosun.com. Colorado schools with declining enrollment brace for a gut punch as governor's budget proposes funding cuts. Now, I read that and I'm thinking, are you guys just that dumb? You're supposed to be educators. You're supposed to be smart. Are you really this stupid? If you're Enrollment is declining. In other words, your population and the amount of kids you have in your area is declining. Why are you not already preparing yourself budget-wise for what's coming? And I can give you the answer because, number one, they're not that smart. Even though they're educators, they're not that smart. They might be book smart, but they're not smart any other way. On top of that, they love doing what they've always done. They're used to it. They don't want to have any cuts. They're used to living, you know, fat off the hog. And I know some of them would argue that they don't, but trust me, they do. Maybe not all... folk inside of a school district do but by and large they have plenty of funding trust me that's all i you know you talk about something i get tired of hearing is that we underfund education in america and or colorado and nothing by the way nothing could be farther from the truth nothing could be farther from the truth We fund it just fine. It's what they do with the funds that's the problem. And you never hear anybody talk about that because nobody wants to. That's like talking about cutting back Social Security, raising the age limit or whatever. It's political suicide, so nobody ever talks about it, even though it needs talked about. Now, if I were running for election, I'd have no problem talking about Colorado and schools and budgets and so on because, in my opinion, they're overfunded. In my opinion, you could go in, and I've said this numerous times, you could trim back budgets in every single school district across this state in a heartbeat, one fell swoop. A lot of it could be done in the way we manage the facilities. Bus routes on down the line. I'm not even talking about teachers, salaries, pay, administrators, anything along those lines. I'm just talking about the core part of what we do with buses and buildings. I guarantee you. we could consolidate schools in a lot of areas in this state, sell off other buildings and land that are owned by said school district, generate revenue, and cut budgets. And I could do that overnight. And I challenge anybody that's on that side of the aisle to prove me wrong. Because I guarantee you, when you have less students... which is where some of these budget cuts are coming from, what I just said is true. I drove by, didn't even know this was happening, was going up to Boulder. My grandparents and my wife's father are buried up in a cemetery on the south end of Boulder, so we went up to visit not long ago. Brand new high school built up on the hill in Boulder just off of Broadway. And last I checked, unless I'm wrong, their population in Boulder doesn't increase. It can't, by the way, because it's surrounded by open space, which is what they created all the way back in the 60s, and there's no place to build anything new. And I can tell you right now from the demographics of people that live in Boulder, I guarantee you there's less kids going to school today than there ever has been. On top of that, homeschool, private school, and so on, I would have to look at the actual numbers, but I would be shocked if there's more students today than there was in the past, and yet Boulder County built a new high school. Why? Something wrong with Boulder High, something wrong with Fairview. This is in between the two, by the way. When I drove by that the other day, I looked at my wife with this shocked look like, you have got to be kidding me. What an absolute waste of money. That's one example. And I could go down the list of others, and yet we've got an article talking about how literally shocked, and this is a gut punch, as Governor Polis talks about funding cuts. Now, Governor Polis, if he's got half a brain, will do this because it's one of the places you could actually round up some money for the state. And again... I get it. There's been inflation that drives up some costs that happen, you know, when it comes to heating the buildings and different things and so on. I get it. You know, inflation affects everybody, including them and their districts. But I can also tell you that every one of those districts, like every other government entity that's out there, has bloat and plenty of. Now, I will also tell you that, in my opinion, one of the first places that a lot of districts, not all, I get there's some rural districts that would have a hard time with this, but there's a lot of city districts where you could cut the bus service back a certain percentage, widen the circle when it comes to kids that actually have to ride the bus to get to school and save money that way. In other words, if you're within a certain mile radius, you're getting to school on your own. Whatever that – and I don't know what the number is now, but so many ways to save money. Honestly, I could just go line by line by line. Joe, go ahead.
SPEAKER 06 :
John, a couple things. One, with regard to Colorado and the schools, it's not like it snuck up on them. Thank you. You can look at kindergarten enrollment and first-grade enrollment, and you can actually – you can trend plot every year. How many first-grade students did we have in 2020 and 2021? And you can see it's declining every year. And, of course, that trend will continue on. I mean, if your first grade enrollment is down 20% from 10 years ago, that means in eight years from now, your middle school enrollment is going to be down 20%. Right. So it's not like, you know, a gut punch is something that sneaks up on you. You turn around and wind up, somebody smacks you in the gut. This should not be a surprise to anybody.
SPEAKER 19 :
This is a gut punch. They're just being dumb, Joe. Right. Sorry, like I opened up with. I mean, these are supposed to be educators that are supposed to be smart, but they're not.
SPEAKER 06 :
I mean, it's the simplest thing in the world to predict this. And when I was running businesses, we would look at the trend. We didn't wait for something to hit us in the face. We would do trend plot. What's new orders this month versus last month? What's new orders versus six months ago? What's new orders in January of this year versus January of last year? We're always doing trend analysis, but apparently trend analysis is a skill these people didn't learn in teacher college.
SPEAKER 19 :
Well, the other thing, too, that, as you know, in all these districts that happens is the per pupil count is there, whether your kids go to home, you know, whether you homeschool them, private school them or whatever, they're still in the count. But, yeah, but you know how many people are attending because your school reimbursement... No, but what I'm saying is they're still basing a lot of, like, Polis, when he looks at budgets and so on and how they count students, doesn't matter if that kid goes to school or not. That head count's still there, Joe.
SPEAKER 06 :
But they don't take into account how many people are being homeschooled or going to private schools?
SPEAKER 19 :
I think that's one of the things Polis is talking about changing.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay, it's not like it's a secret because, you know, schools... Because you're aware that there comes like a certain day or two days of the year where when you apply for a DE, Department of Education funding, it's based upon your attendance on that day. So the schools make a big deal of making sure that everybody's there. So they know how many kids are enrolled in the school versus students. As you know, as we just discussed, you've got kids being homeschooled and kids going to private school. But it's an easy number. It's not like the number of kids enrolled in your school or your school district is a mystery. That's a well-known number.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah, and to your point, it's a well-known number even where that's going to be in the future. So depending upon where you're at with it, I get that people can leave and add and so on and so forth. But on average, Joe, you know if you've got this many elementary kids this year, you're going to have that many middle school kids down the road versus that many high schoolers down the road. Joe, this isn't rocket science.
SPEAKER 06 :
No, and it shouldn't be a gut punch. You can see this coming from a mile away.
SPEAKER 19 :
And we know that coast to coast, here in Colorado especially, attendance is down because the population growth is down. Down.
SPEAKER 06 :
Now, if I may, can we just go to extreme? Let's talk about Los Angeles for a minute.
SPEAKER 19 :
Oh, sure.
SPEAKER 06 :
Latest count, Los Angeles has lost 12,000 homes. Now, if you assume an average of just 1.5 million, K-12 age school kids in each one of those 12,000 homes, that's 18,000 kids that have left the area. Right. Good point. And by the way, it's not like there were 12,000 apartments or homes for rent within 50 miles of L.A. Those 12,000 people, they're more than 100 miles away now because there weren't 12,000 Airbnbs or homes for sale or vacant apartments within 50 miles of Los Angeles. So those 12,000 families, they're no longer in the L.A. consolidated school district. Well, at 1.5 kids per home, that's 18,000 kids at 500 kids per school. You're talking 36. That's the equivalent of 36 schools that aren't going to be needed anymore.
SPEAKER 03 :
Right.
SPEAKER 06 :
And how do you think L.A. is going to deal with having 36 surplus schools? Because I don't believe any of the schools burned down. So they're going to have 36 schools and 36 staffs.
SPEAKER 19 :
Great point. That they will not cut any on, as you know.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, and here's why. Well, if they don't, here's the other problem. I did a little math on the property tax rate on those homes. Annually, they're going to be missing loans. $1 billion worth of property tax revenue. Wow. A billion, John.
SPEAKER 19 :
Huge. Huge, Joe. And by the way, that doesn't count all of the other ancillary spending that goes on outside of that because those people, to your point, aren't there any longer.
SPEAKER 06 :
Right.
SPEAKER 19 :
That's just property tax, right?
SPEAKER 06 :
That was just property tax. I'm not counting anybody. City and County of L.A. had a 9.65% sales tax. Now, some of that went to the state, but if you figure four and a half people per per home times 12,000 homes, you're talking... That's a huge impact. Yeah, they're not going to be spending money. They're gone. When they're buying their clothes, their groceries, batteries... Joe, that's an entire city gone. That's the town of Castle Rock. That's right.
SPEAKER 19 :
Gone.
SPEAKER 06 :
That's right. Castle Rock. So all that money is not going to be spent. Nope. So they're not going to get the sales tax revenues. And because they're not spending that money.
SPEAKER 19 :
And, Joe, I predict, and I've talked about this before, I think even on my weekend shows, there'll be a percentage of those that are like gone, gone. They're not coming back to California, period. They'll just leave.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, or if they're. Staying in California, they're hundreds of miles away from L.A.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah, and my prediction is you'll – I'm sorry to say, you'll see some of them move here.
SPEAKER 06 :
Unfortunately, you're right. But let's go even further. Let's go back to L.A. So not only is L.A. going to miss out on the sales tax revenues from 50,000 people, John, the businesses, the restaurants, the movie theaters, the clothing stores, the shoe stores – Those businesses are going to – many of them are going to fail because that's a significant portion.
SPEAKER 04 :
That's right.
SPEAKER 06 :
And as those businesses fail, their staffs get laid off. They stop paying property taxes because a shuttered business doesn't pay property taxes to the city and county of L.A. anymore. True. So they're going to lose out to the – It's a snowball effect. Yeah, it's going to be a cascading snowball effect. Yep. So you're going to be the mayor of L.A. and the city council – You're going to be looking at more than a billion-dollar revenue shortfall to your budget between property taxes and loss of sales taxes. And you're going to have the equivalent of 36 spare schools and school staffs on your hands. What are you going to do as the city and county, the city and mayors of L.A. in the years next year?
SPEAKER 19 :
That is a great question. I talked a little bit about this on our roundtable discussion this morning. Everybody can hear here in about a half an hour because, Joe, what I said was the fire itself, the loss that's there right now is the tip of the iceberg to the things you and I are now talking about.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, and to rebuild 12,000 homes, John, a decade. A decade plus. Yeah. You know, you might get 10% a year, you know, over the next 10 years.
SPEAKER 19 :
I said that even in Superior-Louisville fires here, Joe, that happened a few years ago here, that it would be a decade before everything's back to normal here, and I'm not going to be far off.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, and I don't know, you know, where you find all the different crews. And, of course, those crews are going to have to be coming in from, from way outside the L.A. district.
SPEAKER 19 :
Correct. And again, there's opportunity there, and there'll be some growth with that economically and so on. But to your point, it's going to be decades before things get back to normal. And the other thing people are forgetting is there'll be some areas, I predict, that government doesn't even allow to get rebuilt. They'll just say, yeah, no houses here anymore. You're done. Sell your land off.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, and they'll also – and I'll be stunned, John, if they don't change the building codes in terms of mandating – Tyler metal roofing, stucco instead of wood or vinyl siding, which, by the way, anybody who's going to have a house built or thinking of remodeling. My house down in Larkspur, I lived in a very rural area, a lot of big pine trees. The house was originally built with clapboard siding. When I had it redone, John, we ripped the clapboard off and put stucco. We made the house fireproof.
SPEAKER 19 :
I just got a text message, Joe, proving our point that somebody just texted that there's already realtors in Phoenix advertising on the radio in L.A. pandering to those fire victims to come there. Yep. Already happening, Joe.
SPEAKER 06 :
If I was a realtor in Phoenix, John, and I was smart enough, I'd be doing the same thing.
SPEAKER 19 :
I wouldn't be surprised if some of ours here aren't smart enough to do the same thing.
SPEAKER 06 :
I'd be putting up billboards on the highways in and around LA saying, you know, we have homes, call me. You know, even up in Tahoe. And by the way, a lot of businesses over the past decade, because I used to be involved in the business, have moved just over the border to Utah. That's right. St. George, Utah is booming. St. George's gain is California's loss. I mean, St. George is just literally over the border from California. But the business climate is completely different. Cost of living is completely different. And St. George, Utah, has seen a huge influx. And you look at where St. George is. It's on the southern tip of Utah, just right next to California. I mean, you drive two miles and you're in California. Yep. and I think you'll see a lot of people going to Utah. If they're smart, they'll go to Utah.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yep, you're right. Joe, man, that's good stuff. I appreciate it, as always.
SPEAKER 06 :
You're welcome, John. Thank you, man.
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All right, we are back. Welcome, Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush. Scott Garlis joining us now. Scott, welcome. How are you today, sir? Hey, John, I'm well. How are you? Always good. Good to talk to you. Talk to us about inflation and some of the new data that's out.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, so one of the big things that's been going on in the stock market lately, we talked about this last week, is Yields have been on a tear since the Federal Reserve made its last rate decision in December. Some members expressed concern with inflation picking back up in 25. And some of them said also they were concerned about Trump's tariff policies. Well, so today we had numbers come out. The headline number, which is the annualized rate of growth, it rose to 2.9%. And so on the surface, that seems bad, right? But when you start to dig through it, what you see is, you know, over the last six months, the pace of monthly growth has been running at less than 0.1% per month. And so when you start to annualize that out, that looks like 0.9% over the next 12 months. So I say this because At the beginning of last year, we still had a lot of stimulus money in savings, and it was being spent in January, February, March. So January, February, and March, when we look at the annualized numbers of 24, they were the hottest numbers in the last 12 months. They're going to start to drop off over these next few months, and then all of a sudden what you're going to see is the pace of annualized growth is going to plummet. It could be sub-2% when the March numbers come out.
SPEAKER 19 :
Okay. So in other words, a lot of hype here and a lot of folks may be getting amped up and worried about something that, frankly, will adjust back down and not be a big issue anyways.
SPEAKER 08 :
That is exactly right. And so we've seen bond yields run almost to 5%. We saw the stock market get pummeled. And then you had the Trump camp. Didn't directly say it that I know of, but some people spoke to reporters at Bloomberg and said, look, in terms of the tariffs, one of our intentions is to gradually roll them out over time. Supposedly some people in Besant's camp had said this. And, you know, what that sounds like to me is they would use them as a leverage tool, and instead of fully implementing them, they would start with something small.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah, and I think, Scott, by the way, I won't disagree with that. I think that's exactly what they'll do. And they'll start the pain process slower. And they'll work on things that, frankly, don't have a huge impact upon the U.S. economy, but still have an impact upon, in this case, China. And there's, you know, there's items like that. And I think that's one of the first things they'll do.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, I mean, and so, again, I try to look at it from a stock market perspective and analyze the data and And that's the way I see it, and I can see it going down. And again, I would be more worried about the economic growth outlook. If we slapped on really high tariffs really quickly, then I'd be worried about inflation. You know, I don't think I think people would just stop buying stuff if prices really went up, shot up.
SPEAKER 19 :
Well, I think it's going to happen as well. Get your opinion on this. If Trump, which I believe he'll do one of his first executive orders, is to reverse some of the things that are in the current administration right now, having to do with energy, green energy and so on. If, you know, he gets things rolling along and all of a sudden, you know, I didn't look at the price of oil today. You probably know it off the top of your head. I can look really quick here. It would be 80 bucks a barrel right now. So we're 80, low 80s right now.
SPEAKER 04 :
80, 50, $81, something like that.
SPEAKER 19 :
So if all of a sudden, you know, a week from now, because of Trump's executive orders and just his rhetoric and some of the things he talks about with energy and so on, don't be shocked. And I wouldn't short this, by the way, but don't be shocked if you don't see WTI crude about $10 a barrel less a week from now. And I don't think I'm exaggerating when I say that.
SPEAKER 08 :
No, I think you're right. I mean, I think ideally, you know, you always want to try to find that price where, yeah, you know, you think, well, man, if prices are really high, people are making profits. Well, you have to remember, too, the higher prices go, the less people might be inclined to buy oil. And they might cut back on trips.
SPEAKER 19 :
Well, and really quick, my point with some of what might happen with some of the tariffs I believe will also be offset where if we get energy prices down and people aren't spending as much money to heat their home and drive their car and so on, well, it's all a wash at the end of the day, meaning that, yeah, you might be paying a little bit more for that whatever item that you have to get that comes from China. versus what you just put in a gallon of gas, at the end of the day, it's offset. In fact, as you know, Scott, we spend a lot more money on energy and fuel and groceries and so on, which has a direct correlation to energy prices. We spend a lot more on that than we do the goods from China.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, that's right. And so going back to the CPI from that angle as well, so if CPI starts to run, so the last three months, we've seen that six-month average. And again, I bring that up because that's more forward-looking. That's been running around 0.8%, 0.9% on an annualized basis. So if we had that, and let's say the CBO's worst-case estimate of Trump putting 60% tariffs on China and 10% or 20% on the rest of the world really does jack up inflation for a full percentage point, we would still be at 1.9%, which is, again, below the Fed's 2% target. So I don't think that's going to happen. As a matter of fact, I was reading a report recently. Another report from FactSet earlier today, and they love to analyze data, too, and they were pointing to the last time we had these trade tariffs put in place. They did not create a run in inflation like some people are worrying about. Right.
SPEAKER 19 :
Well, and again, if you get the flip side of that, like we're talking about, in relation to the other side of the aisle, energy-wise, then that offsets it.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yes. Am I right? That's right.
SPEAKER 19 :
And I think that's why, you know, in the past, even when some of those things might have happened, the offset, and again, you know more about this than I do, Scott, as far as a direct correlation, the volume from one side to the other. But I got to believe that, and correct me if I'm wrong, but what we do on the energy side and what we're buying on a daily basis versus what the average consumer is buying from China, I got to believe that's, is it 10 to 1?
SPEAKER 08 :
You know, that I do not know. That's a great thing. I could try to look that up and find out, and maybe I could throw that out to you next time or send you an email.
SPEAKER 19 :
It'd be nice to know because, I mean, everybody talks about China, China, China, China, China. Your cost of goods are going to go up. Your cost of goods are going to go up. It's like, okay, well, I get that. And some things we do get from China and some of our electronics and things along those lines and some of the knickknacks and Frankly, Scott, crap that we buy at times, whether you need it or not. Yeah, probably coming from China says made in China. But the stuff that we actually need to survive, frankly, Scott, doesn't come from China.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, yeah, we can definitely. I mean, we're buying less. from China these days than we were before because of everything that happened in the past. Now, I mean, I'm just looking. We, by 2022, U.S. consumer spent a total of $11.4 trillion. I can't find the number from China. But, yeah, we consume roughly 19 million barrels of oil daily. That's right. I knew that. About 20.
SPEAKER 19 :
It runs between 19 and 20 a day is what we do daily. That's correct.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, so at $80, I mean, that's what, like, is that $1.5 trillion a day or maybe $150? That's a big number.
SPEAKER 19 :
It's a huge number to your point.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, and that would – I've got to think that you're probably right. I'll try to find out the ratio for you.
SPEAKER 19 :
And the only reason I say that is just common sense would say, okay, most people go to the pump at least once a week. Most people are buying groceries, of course, once a week. They're heating their homes daily, even though they're writing the check once a month. They're buying that on a daily basis. So the reality is those goods, Scott, the average American is buying on a daily basis. And I guarantee you they're not buying something from China on a daily basis.
SPEAKER 08 :
That's very possible.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah, that's all I'm saying. And again, I don't know what those numbers are. And by the way, isn't it ironic that we don't ever hear anybody anywhere ever talking about what you and I are talking about? Because that's not a scare tactic if you and I talk the way we're talking.
SPEAKER 08 :
No, it's not. If it's not fearful, it doesn't sell well.
SPEAKER 19 :
If we put this into relation to somebody out there driving around right now listening, saying, wait a minute, yeah, we might have a little bit of upside cost-wise when it comes to China, but I can lower everything else on this other side of the equation. That person driving is thinking, oh, okay, so that... whatever I just bought that has a Made in China sticker on it. Oh, I might have to pay a little bit more money for that, but when I fill up my gas tank, I won't. Okay, I'm good with that.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, if I made 50 cents here and lost 45 cents there, and I'm netting out 5 cents.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah, and the reality, Scott, is we don't ever talk that way, and the press never talks that way, because what I just said makes sense and makes it a lot less scary. That's correct. You're not going to hear that, by the way, other than from you and I. Again, sorry to laugh, but yeah, it's sadly true. And even Wall Street isn't going to talk that way because all they look at is, as I've said before, because the globalists and so on, you know, terrorists are bad, terrorists are bad, terrorists are bad. That's all you're going to hear. I really don't think Donald Trump is going to do anything... that would upset the apple cart long term for the economy, where there might be a short dip here or there after something that he does. Yeah, that I could see. But he knows best. He knows what the economy needs to grow. And at the end of the day, he's going to do things to feed that, not harm it.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, I mean, I think people forget. They get so caught up in some of the Nonsense sometimes. What they really forget is Trump really does have the U.S. economy's best interests at heart. And if you're an investor, he has said multiple times that he views how the stock market performs as a statement on his job as president.
SPEAKER 19 :
That's right.
SPEAKER 08 :
So the last thing he's going to want is to see the stock market crater under his watch. That's right.
SPEAKER 19 :
And by the way, he's not being left in ruins. really good position. This administration is trying to do everything possible they can to leave him in a poor position. So I think you're going to see some things really, Scott, because of that right out of the shoot next Tuesday, you're going to see some things be written right off the bat to help right the ship because he knows he has to.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, and something else I would tell people that average investors may not think about is, so there's a thing on Wall Street that's saying it's called buy the rumor, sell the news. Like, you think this is going to happen. And there's also on the flip side of that is you sell the rumor and buy the news. In other words, like if you're a short seller, you think the market's peaking, you can say, oh, my God, Trump's going to do all these bad things, blah, blah, blah, and you short stocks. And right now hedge funds are record short technology stocks. to drive these stocks down, but guess what? To your point, once Trump gets into office and he starts to enact some of these policies, all of a sudden the uncertainty of what's going to happen starts to disappear. That's right. And then they get the details, and then once they get the details, again, be like, okay, well, that's not that bad. That's not that bad. That's right. Absolutely. You can put numbers around them, and then that's why. And I think that's starting to happen right now because the inauguration is Monday. That's right. And so people are starting to say, okay, well, maybe it won't be as bad.
SPEAKER 19 :
Scott, how do folks get a hold of you, sir?
SPEAKER 08 :
Sure. See Scott Garlis on LinkedIn or Twitter. And, again, I love the S&P 500 right here. You can buy the SPY as the ETF. Basically, I think stocks are going to have a great run.
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