Join Kim Monson in this engaging episode of exploring the pressing issues of freedom versus force in today's society. Kim delves into the complexities of election season, urging listeners to make informed decisions with her comprehensive voter's guide. The episode discusses citizen-led movements against increasing governmental control, and concerns about policy decisions that undermine individual freedoms. Each segment of the Kim Monson Show provides a lens through which to view current events, prompting listeners to advocate for their values and question the status quo.
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It's the Kim Monson Show, analyzing the most important stories.
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That seems to me like government is establishing a religion.
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The latest in politics and world affairs.
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If you give people rights, women's rights, gay rights, whatever, there can't be equal rights if there are special rights.
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Today's current opinions and ideas.
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Surveys show that people still really prefer freedom over government force.
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Is it freedom or is it force? Let's have a conversation.
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Indeed, let's have a conversation. And welcome to the Kim Monson Show. Thank you so much for joining us. You each are treasured, you're valued, you have purpose. Today, strive for excellence. Take care of your heart, your soul, your mind, and your body. My friends, we were made for this moment in history. And thank you to the team. That's Producer Joe, Luke, Rachel, Zach, Echo, Charlie, Mike, Teresa, Amanda, and all the people here at Crawford Broadcasting. Happy Tuesday, Producer Joe. Happy Tuesday, Kim. And a lot is going on. We're in election season. So be sure and check out my Web site. That is Kim Monson dot com. Two things. Make sure that you are signed up for our weekly email newsletter that goes out on Sundays where it highlights all of our upcoming guests as well as our most recent essays. And also at the top of the Web site, there is a red ribbon that you can click on that. And you can download my voter's guide. Just put in your name and your email. We'll send you a link for that. We want this to be a good tool for you as you are completing your ballot. And hopefully it is going to be something of help to you. And nobody paid me to do it. I don't have any influence from any PBIs, politicians, bureaucrats or interested parties, nor any corporations or anything. What I used as the litmus test is what is best for the everyday individual, the Coloradan who's out there working hard and is going after their American dream. And how does each of these ballot questions match up to the vision of our declaration, our constitution? And so those are the things that I used as my litmus test regarding the issues. And so do check that out. We'll talk a little bit more about that here in just a little bit. You can email me at Kim at Kim Monson dot com. And I have to say thank you to Ray. He sent me a text message saying he sent me an email. and the text line is 720-605-0647. I fight with my email inbox on a regular basis, and yesterday I fought with my text messages as well. I'll be catching up with that today. But you might send an email to me at kim at kimmunza.com, and then just alert me on the text line 720-605-0647, and I will go to look for that. And as you know, we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And it's never compassionate nor altruistic to take other people's stuff. whether or not it's their rights, their property, freedom, livelihood, opportunity, their childhoods, or lives via force. And force can obviously be a weapon, but we see it with policy, unpredictable in excess of taxation, fear, coercion, government-induced inflation, the agenda of the World Economic Forum played out by the globalist elites, but also with the United Nations and this Colorado state legislature, this Colorado governor, and we're seeing it play out also with a lot of this density stuff happening at local government that is really the agenda of the world economic forum is to limit land where people can thrive and prosper and put us into denser and denser areas on top of each other which makes it more difficult for people to thrive and flourish so it is an agenda and people are fighting back on that many of my colleagues out in lakewood are fighting back on that and what what happened with lakewood is the city council's not representing the people but representing an agenda and special interests so karen gorday will talk with her on thursday morning great sponsor of the show she's an entrepreneur and owner of radiant painting and lighting she's decided to run for city council in lakewood But they want to do a referendum on all of these different zoning density things in Lakewood. And so what this city did is they took that and they broke into four parts the things that people were concerned about that they were going to run a referendum on. and then they heard them at four different city council meetings so what that did is it will make it more difficult for people to get petitions for four issues instead of one and then the timing on it to get approved by the the city to be able to run the petitions and uh really it's shutting down people's voices we have an illusion of representative government right now we have an illusion that our votes matter. And we need to push back on that illusion and reclaim our voices. Same thing happened in Littleton. And we'll talk with Joe Whitney, rooted in Littleton on Thursday as well, regarding the communities came together and they said, wait a minute, we want our voices to be heard. We don't want our neighborhoods to be changing like this, our communities. And so they have an issue on the ballot and would highly recommend that people check that out on the Littleton ballot as well. So these elections are so important. People are paying attention. And as we realize, when the bulldozers show up, it's too late. And there is this big project down in Douglas County regarding a sports complex. And I love kids playing sports. I love kids getting off of electronic devices. And I'm still learning about this particular issue. But I did go to the hearing last week with the Douglas County commissioners, and I have to say I was shocked that not all voices were heard at this hearing. I think that's what a hearing is supposed to be, is to hear all these voices. And so it does happen from both sides of the aisle. Shutting down voices, and we need to shed light on that. And I will continue to do that. I will continue to search for truth and clarity on all of these issues. But we're seeing this agenda of the World Economic Forum playing out at the local level right now. So these city council races and mayor races are so important. And what I recommend in my voter's guide is that you reach out to your county clerk or in the case of your cities, and you could also reach out to your city clerk and get the contact information for each of the candidates and call them and ask them, where do they stand? on density. Where do they stand on protecting our neighborhoods? Where do they stand on making sure that all voices are heard? And so on my voter's guide, I did include all 64 counties and our county clerks and their numbers or the county clerk's numbers. So those are there as a reference. Also regarding what's on these local ballots, Colorado Municipal League had a pretty comprehensive list of things. For example, Fort Collins, some of the stuff they're asking for voters, it's just astonishing and not in a good way. So there's that reference there as well. And then on the voter's guide, I did take positions of no. on both of the statewide issues, which is, and this is air quotes, healthy school meals for all children. And yes, maybe there might be some meals for children, but children are already, we have a federal national lunch program. And so this is really new bureaucracies, new bureaucrats that and these bureaucracies are unelected and unaccountable to the people. And so the answer should be no on that. Those issues are also rooted in envy where it's taxing people. partially and not impartially and in the vision of the declaration we are all to be treated equally under the law so that means we should be taxed equally under the law meaning we don't have taxes for some people and not for others and when we have taxes that are proposed for one group of people the other group of people will vote for that And that is, it's not fair. And so both Proposition LL, which what LL is, is the state collected more money than they said they would in a 2022 proposition. And so they're asking if they can keep all that money. And when our young people are told, oh, it's corporations, businesses that are so greedy, the businessman is actually, what about government? That's the greediest. And government has the ability, they have force that they can take money from people, where corporations, unless they're cronying up with government, they have to compete in the free market, which is called capitalism. So do check out my voter's guide. The other thing I will mention is these tax increases such as what Denver is asking in five different measures for just under a billion dollars in new debt. But to pay that off will be probably Double that at least. And the answer should be no on that. And it's so disingenuous because let me get the ballot question here right here. And that's one of the things I have in the voters guide is the actual ballot language and any links to anything that needs to be on there. And for example, it says without imposing any new tax. and that's issued to a transportation and mobility but what they are asking to for is to extend a tax that would go away and if that tax went away your property taxes would go down in denver so the answer should be no on that as well and then on my ballot i have a question by south metro fire and of course we all really want the fire truck to show up if we have a fire But I think there's plenty of money as I've gone by and seen many of these new fire buildings, some of them all brick. I'm thinking there's quite a bit of money that is floating around there. So this question for South Metro Fire District is to increase taxes $50 million. each year. And people can have a debate about that. But what my no on that is because at the end, it's asking to de-tabor or de-bruce all of that revenue, meaning that if they collect excess revenue, instead of returning that back to the taxpayer, the people they took it from, they want to keep it all. And when we see that, and that's been going on for quite some time with many of these ballot questions, and so the answer should be no. Until these entities start to say, we're asking for this and we're going to stay within that frame, but if they're asking to keep all the excess revenue, the answer should be no. And as you know, we are truly an independent voice. I'm an independent voice. I purchased my airtime. And that's why I totally have total freedom in guest selection and conversations that we have. And it also happens because of our sponsors. And I want to say thank you to the Harris family for their goal sponsorship of the show. 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There's so much noise coming at us. Sometimes it is difficult to make sense of it all. How can you sift through the clamor for your attention and get to the truth? The Kim Monson Show is here to help. Kim searches for truth and clarity by examining issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. Tune in to the Kim Monson Show each weekday, 6 to 8 a.m. with encores 1 to 2 p.m. and 10 to 11 p.m. on KLZ 560 AM, KLZ 100.7 FM. The KLZ website, the KLZ app, and Alexa. Play KLZ. Shows can also be found at KimMonson.com, Spotify, and iTunes.
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And welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. And as I mentioned, I am an independent voice. I'm independent because of all of your support. And our sponsors, a great sponsor of the show is also Hooters Restaurants. And how I got to know them is a very important story about freedom and free markets and capitalism and those PBIs that want to try to control our lives. But Hoosiers Restaurants has locations in Westminster, Loveland, and in Aurora. And great specials Monday through Friday for lunch and happy hour. Great place to get together with friends to watch the games. And again, I greatly appreciate their sponsorship. A couple of other things regarding the election. You should have received your ballot. If you have not, reach out to your county clerk and check on that. And my voter's guide hopefully will be a good tool for you as you are completing your ballot. And you can get that by going to Kim Monson, that's M-O-N-S-O-N.com, and click on the red banner at the top of the page, and we will put in your name and email. We'll send you a link to download that. Let's see. Oh, the Governor's Forum, which I moderated on... Saturday night. There were 12 of the 18 candidates there. If you want to watch that, you can go to YouTube. And it is BNTN, standing for Better Nate Than Never. And that's BNTN on YouTube. And you should be able to get the live stream on that. Next thing regarding school board races, you can check out transformcolorado.org. And they did a survey or sent a survey out to most all of the school districts and those candidates. And you got the questions there and you can see whether or not the candidate answered it or not. If they didn't answer it, it's probably more like a no vote on that. So that hopefully should be a really good tool for you as well. And then regarding Colorado Union of Taxpayers' cut, it is an all-volunteer group, and I am the president, and the new ratings report is out in hard copy. And you can... Join us for $25 a year. That's $2.08 a month. And you will get a hard copy. We're working on how that all works. We'll have that on the website here soon. But also as a member, you will get the email that we send to each of the legislators and the governor during this. the legislative session regarding our positions on different bills. And we took positions on 273 bills this year. And so I wanted to say thank you to this team. The website is coloradotaxpayer.org. But that team is Steve Dorman, Greg Golianski, Russ Haas, Bill Hamill, Rob Knuth, John Nelson, Wendy Warner, Marty Nielsen, Ramey Johnson, Mary Jansen, Dave Evans, Corey Onozorg, Paula Beard, and Ray Beard. These are an amazing group of people and the work that they do is monumental. And so join us at coloradotaxpayer.org and we will get a hard copy of this report, which is really an amazing piece of work. Our word of the day. is query, and it's spelled Q-U-E-R-Y. It's a noun. It could be a question or inquiry, a doubt in the mind, a mental reservation, or number three, a notation, usually a question mark, calling attention to an item in order to question its validity or accuracy. And so a question inquiry, we need to query our elected representatives. We need to refer to them as elected representatives, not elected officials. That puts in their mind and our minds that they are officials over our lives. They are not. They are representatives. And we need to talk with them about. bringing back to the elected representative the decisions making that's been abdicated out by Congress to PBIs or to bureaucrats, administrative states, same at the local, county, and state level. And so we are at a time, when I say that we're at a time in history, we truly, truly are. So we need to query our elected representatives. We need to query our candidates to find out where they stand. And we have a duty to do so. And I know a number of you have reached out to me regarding candidates for Douglas County School Board. And they're the common sense candidates. And I would recommend Keaton Gamble, Dede Kramer, Matt Smith and Steve Vail. And again, these are such important races. And so be sure and check and check that out. Let's see, next thing, our quote of the day is from G.K. Chesterton. And I chose him because in church on Sunday, the pastor had a great quote from G.K. Chesterton about our children. But he said this, and G.K. Chesterton was born in 1874. He died in 1936. He was an English author, philosopher, Christian apologist, which what that means is a defender of the Christian faith, poet, journalist, magazine editor, and literary and art critic. And says Chesterton's wit, paradoxical style, and defensive tradition made him a dominant figure in early 20th century literature. And he said this, the problem of disbelieving in god is not that a man ends up believing nothing alas it's much worse he ends up believing anything and many of the people that are involved in these no kings protests i think might fall into that that category that they end up believing anything and And there have been those that have said, Kim, why don't you do a point-counterpoint on the show? And I think that when we... I may start something at some point in time here soon that we might do that. But I said on the show, what we want to do is to search for truth and clarity on these issues. The other side... They get so much information and they don't see the other side. That was the beauty of Charlie Kirk is he wanted to have a conversation. And that's what we've been wanting to do and we strive to do on the show on a regular basis as well. And so we need to have a conversation. But so many of these people are just believing this narrative of that Trump wants to be a king. Although I reported last week from one of the news articles that a actress who was I think she was the actress in Dr. No, I can't remember her name now. But she put on X, she said, hey, I had TDS, Trump derangement syndrome. But after he brokered the deal of peace with Israel and Hamas, and she saw on the beach, somebody had put on the beach in Tel Aviv, thank you. She changed her mind. So that's why we have to hear all the stories. But this is really important. I referenced it yesterday, but wanted to give you a little bit more information on this from the Western Journal regarding George Soros' involvement in the nationwide No Kings protest uncovered. Well, I was headed up to... Loveland on Saturday, which was the No Kings Day, over one of the overpasses, there was a No Kings protest. And I saw an American flag. And I thought, do they not understand that the goal of the radical activists is to take America down? and that we would all be controlled by a group of elites, which we were headed that way with the Obama-Harris administration, or Biden-Harris administrations. And we want to unite, but we want to unite around this idea of the vision of our declaration, that we are all created equal and we have these rights. from God of life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness. And if we can unite around that, which Jefferson and Hamilton looked at things differently. They looked at government differently, but ultimately they both believed in liberty, the responsible exercise of freedom. if somebody wants to destroy our country there's not going to be much that we can do to unify with them so we must work to persuade them and persuade people about this american idea but soros wants to take america down so this group indivisible which there's uh groups in almost every county in the country uh is really uh i think there may be people that may be well-meaning But they are believing anything, going back to G.K. Chesterton's quote. But this is from, I think this is from Fox News. Let me just make sure on that. Hold on here. I like to give the source. No, I'm sorry. I said this earlier. It's the Western Journal. And it says, you've probably heard about Saturday's No Kings protests. And it went on to say, but why is it getting such fevered coverage and such fervency of support? A surprise, it's the dollars of George Soros being sprinkled over some astroturf again. It says, according to Fox News, the group that's behind this Indivisible, founded by Leah Greenberg and Ezra Levin, is being funded in large part by Soros' Open Society Action Fund. The group was given a $3 million grant in 2023, purportedly to support the grantee's social welfare activities. says there's some irony there in as much as Indivisible was one of the groups that wanted Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer thrown overboard from Democrat leadership after he didn't shut down the government earlier this year. Levin in particular said Schumer had done a great deal of damage to the party, particularly by not shutting Washington down. He added in a March 15 statement that Schumer was leading the charge to wave the white flag of surrender. It said the passage of this dangerous Republican funding bill is a travesty. The ongoing administrative coup led by Donald Trump and Elon Musk is a constitutional crisis. When we were talking with Brad Beck yesterday, this radical activist left, they used the language that people want to hear. Levin is referencing the Constitution, but they want to walk all over the Constitution. And so these people, the people in the protests, some of them may be well-meaning, but they are being used as pawns. And the ultimate goal is to take down America. And so that is, and this is another thing, it says Indivisible is managing data and communications with participants for the No Kings protests that will be taking place in Washington and across the country. And so it's important that we continue to speak truth into what is happening on all of these particular issues. And we do this because of our sponsors. And for everything regarding residential real estate, buying a home, selling a home, new build, you should have Karen Levine on your side of the table.
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And welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. And we talk about freedom all the time on the show, but financial freedom is so important and it starts with the right guide. And Mint Financial Strategies is here to help. As an independent firm with over 25 years of experience, and the credentials of an accredited investment fiduciary, they offer advice that's focused on you, not a sales quota. Their strategy-first approach is all about helping you live life on your terms with clarity, confidence, and control. So call Mint Financial Strategies today. That number is 303-285-3080. Mint Financial Strategies is your path to independent financial confidence. And really excited to have on the line with me, Dr. Swathi Varanasi-Diaz, known to audiences as Dr. Swathi. She is an award-winning healthcare professional recognized for her trailblazing work at the forefront of personalized medicine and healthcare innovation. She earned her doctor of pharmacy degree from the Medical University of South Carolina and became the first pharmacist in the U.S. to complete a postdoctoral residency in integrative medicine and preventative health. Dr. Swathi, welcome to the show. Thank you so much for having me. Well, you have a really interesting perspective regarding energy. And you say that people may be eating right and taking the right supplements, but if energy is out of whack, that can be a problem. And I think with daylight savings time, I think that's kicking in this weekend. It seems to me like people always have jet lag around when we have the time change for at least a week. So talk to me about this, Dr. Swathy.
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Yeah. So, you know, whenever we're thinking about energy, it's really just a science. So, you know, especially when people say vibes, vibes are just everyday language for energy frequencies. So everything, whether you, me, you know, your car, your phone, all of these things emit measurable vibrations. And science can capture these tools with spectroscopy. And just as you mentioned, with the time change coming up, with the weather changing, there are so many ways to notice whether your energy is off.
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So what what do we need to do about that?
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Sure. So, yeah, some of the ways to notice if your energy is off is you might feel like that you're drained no matter how much you're sleeping or how much you're resting. You might be getting sick more often or feeling under the weather or you might be noticing mood swings that you can't explain. And honestly, there are so many ways that throw there's so many things that throw off our energy. every single day, like if we have ongoing stress, if we're not sleeping enough, if we're looking at our screen for too long, if we're staying indoors for too long, or even if we're surrounding ourselves with negative people. So there's so many things that can throw our energy out of sync. The good thing is that there's so many simple habits that we can incorporate into our daily life that cost nothing, that can retune our body's energy. The first one is movement. So this could be stretching, yoga, or even just energy. The second one is slow deep breathing. This can really reset our nervous system. The great thing with this is that it doesn't need to be some complex meditation setup. It doesn't need to be four hours to really get the impact. It could be when you're stopped at a red light and you have those few moments or you're waiting to check out at the grocery store. And you use those few mindful moments to breathe in deeply, hold it for a few seconds, and then release it. And that can actually very much help your nervous system. And another thing is sunlight exposure. I know with the time change, we're going to have a bit less of sunlight coming up soon. But any sort of exposure to sunlight has been shown to recharge your body's natural rhythms. what about so you're an interactive pharmacist what is integrative yes excuse me an integrative pharmacist what what is that exactly dr swathi yeah an integrative pharmacist is really thinking about each patient from a personalized perspective so and also integrative really means the integration of other modalities or healing methods So a lot of what I do is I work with patients in a way that I am looking at what prescription medicines they're taking and what they're currently dealing with in their life. Do they want to improve their sleep quality? Do they want to be more focused at work? And I try to help them with strategies beyond prescription medications that also work together. in synergy with the prescription medication. So this could be recommendations of herbal medicines, of supplements, of movement strategies, sleep hygiene, and also mindfulness techniques. So to me, it's all about more of the and rather than the or. If patients are taking prescription medications, what else can we add from an integrative perspective and a personalized lens that can help patients?
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So, Dr. Swathi, we talk a lot about big pharma, and people look to maybe taking a pill, taking a medication for an issue that they have. What about trying to get off of these prescriptions? I think people feel like they become dependent on them. Is that something that you look at with your patients?
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Yeah, so that does happen sometimes. We always need to weigh the risk versus the benefit. If a patient is getting great benefit from a medication, I oftentimes do not recommend that they get off the medication because it is serving them for that particular, let's say, indication or therapeutic use or that condition. So it's really very patient specific. Sometimes there are people who come to me and say, I would prefer to not be on this medication because there are so many side effects associated with it. So in that particular context, risk is almost outweighing the benefit. The drug might be working for them, but all the other side effects are actually getting in the way of their quality of life. And that's when we can start looking at alternatives that might be a better option. But It very much depends on what the patient is interested in.
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So you are a pharmacist, but it sounds like you're really helping people with health care. So do people also have a doctor that you are integrating with, or what does that look like, Dr. Swathi?
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Yeah. So, I mean, at the end of the day, pharmacists are health care providers. And so they do work in retail settings. But a lot of pharmacists do work in hospitals. They work in clinic settings. And so they are, depending on what sort of role they have, they have a different level of communication and direct interaction with patients there. And so with what I do, I can work with patients one-on-one, whether that's in a clinic setting or in telehealth, but I also can work collaboratively or on an interdisciplinary team with physicians or with other providers like acupuncturists or naturopathic physicians or nurse practitioners so that we can all collaboratively work to help the patient with our different specialties.
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So do you help people just in your geographical area or do you work with people throughout the country? And where are you located exactly?
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So I'm located in Florida. And so as of now, I don't see that many patients anymore. And I do a bit more of strategy and consulting for helping supplement brands with their evidence based, you know, doing clinical trials or, you making products that are actually effective so I don't do as much patient care as I as I used to but I can definitely people are interested in learning more particularly about how energy is incorporated into all of this I have some resources or people that I can recommend absolutely okay and how can people reach you So if they want to learn more about energy-based healing or frequency-first health, I would recommend that they go to greenspaceherbs.com. So that's greenspaceherbs, exactly as it's written, .com. And if you want to reach out to me, you can find me on Instagram at Dr. Swati Varanasi. So D-R-S-W-A-T-H-I-V-A-R-A-N-A-S-I on Instagram or on LinkedIn. Okay.
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Okay, so energy, for example, you mentioned sleep. And there's this, people, they say you should get eight hours of sleep a night. I don't. And Donald Trump, they say that he doesn't get eight hours of sleep. I was having this conversation with somebody yesterday, they said that Martha Stewart,
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operates on four hours asleep I can't do that I can operate on six hours asleep talk to me about sleep and how that can be different for people yeah so sleep very much impacts energy and so at the end of the day the average of eight is what is recommended by a lot of the large kind of sleep organizations but it's really more than eight is really the average and so People can function on lower amounts of sleep, like six or seven hours of sleep or even up to nine hours of sleep. It really just depends on the person. And oftentimes you kind of have to test that out for yourself. I know people who do very well on seven hours or six hours per night. It's more of just keeping that consistency and ensuring that you have really good sleep hygiene when you're going to bed. So making sure you haven't looked at a screen for hours. You know, at least about an hour, making sure that all of the lights are turned off. There are so many other things that we can talk about with sleep hygiene. But sleep is really key for affecting energy because that is the downtime, in other words, because sleep. That's really when our brain and our body can actually restore, repair and recalibrate. And so the recommendation is seven to nine hours. But of course, if that's not possible or if you find that you don't need as much sleep, then that's also great for you, too. That's another element of the personalization of medicine that I talk about is that just because that's the average or the recommendation doesn't necessarily mean that that's going to be the best fit for you.
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Then what about naps? What's your thoughts on naps?
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So I would say naps are great, particularly if you didn't feel like you got an effective amount of sleep throughout the night. So let's say something happened overnight and you weren't able to get your full hours that you generally look for. That's where a nap can play a great role. I don't think naps are required for most people because I think naps should be used as that sort of mechanism as like, oh, I didn't get enough sleep. Maybe I can make up some of my sleep there for now. Very particular that we're trying to hit a certain amount of time because you don't want a nap to turn into, you know, a two or three hour sleep of multiple cycles. Generally, 20 minute naps is what's been researched to actually be effective for, you know, revitalizing. And then you wake up refreshed versus feeling groggy.
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And welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Check out our website. That is KimMonson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. While you are there, you can download our voter's guide. It is election season, and there is a red ribbon at the top of the website. Just click on that, put in your name and your email, and we will send you a link to download that voter's guide. I hope that it will be a helpful tool as you are completing your ballot. We have a responsibility to be informed voters today. not influenced voters. And consultants on both sides of the aisle want to have us be influenced voters and not really understand the issues or the candidates. We have a responsibility to check all that out. So again, that is at my website. As you know, the two nonprofits that I highlight on a regular basis on the show is, first of all, the USMC Memorial Foundation. and the official marine memorial is right here in golden colorado and paula sarles the president of the foundation and her team mary and all of them do such great work in taking care of the memorial as well as raising money for the remodel and we're coming up soon it will be veterans day in a great way to say thank you to those that have given their lives been willing to give their lives for our liberty is to support the foundation And then the other nonprofit is the Center for American Values, which is located in Pueblo on the Riverwalk. Pueblo is known as the home of heroes because four Medal of Honor recipients grew up there. And so it's just really a great organization. It's nonpolitical, nonpartisan, but focused on these foundational principles of honor, integrity, and patriotism. I'm having a fascinating conversation with Dr. Swathi Varunasi. She is an integrative pharmacist. We're talking about energy. And Dr. Swathi, what about attitude regarding energy? And I ask that because... This last weekend, I took some items in for repair, and the gentleman that was helping me was just very helpful and just a good conversation assessing what should be done with each piece that I had brought in. And I asked him if he would do one other thing, and he said, you know what, I'm going to go ahead and just do that for free. He said, because you're the first nice person ever. that I met today. And I thought, that's a sad state of affairs that we're at in our country. If that's the kind of energy that we are putting out is that people are not being nice to each other. What do you think about that?
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Yeah, I think there is something to that because as we were mentioning in the beginning, you know, energy really is a science. And, you know, while vibrational, while, you know, we talk about vibrations and talk about energies, there actually is, you know, a measurable biophysical phenomena tied to attitudes and emotions. And so, yeah. This actually very much makes sense to me because, you know, when people are when you're around other people, you can kind of pick up the energy that they have. And so if that is in this particular context, if he was making he if he was feeling like the energy that you were kind of conveying was making him feel better, then he was inclined to, you know, behave differently. in this sort of generous way. And so while there is, you know, so much science around this, it really sometimes is about just about, you know, how you feel and how you're making other people feel.
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and so every day it's important to be in tune to this energy but we will have days where things come at us and i was talking with someone the other day they said i was having a really rough day the other day because of of things that were happening out probably outside their control so how do you address that uh dr swathi
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Yeah, I mean, that is just a part of daily life where there are so many aspects of our day to day or things that are happening that are out of our control. But what is in our control is the way that we react to them. And so especially if you're going through something or if you're having a bit of a difficult day or you keep getting red light over red light over red light and you're on the way to work and you're about to be late, I definitely know the feeling. You know, there are so many of these strategies that I talked about that can be helpful because sometimes we can get caught up in the moment and not really think about the big picture and the fact that, okay, yes, I might be late today, but I can take some of these moments at these red lights to take a deep, slow breath. And while that slow breathing in the moment might seem like, oh boy, is this really what I should be doing? That deep, slow breathing can actually help to reset your nervous system, especially if you do a few breaths at back to back, you hold it in between, and then you release that can, that can very much help. And this actually comes back to principles from Ayurveda. Ayurveda is a an age-old methodology of medicine originating in India that focuses on herbs, diet, and lifestyle to balance the body. And this new discussion of energy is actually around this emerging field called quantum Ayurveda. So it's taking a lot of these initial principles from Ayurveda, but then actually putting a modern twist on them and incorporating the discussion of energy frequencies into So I definitely know the feeling and there is, but there just are so many potential strategies that we can use throughout the day that can make everything seem not as arduous.
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Well, and I think George Washington, of course, we've heard this many times, but it seemed like he had a quote regarding our attitude. And we can change our attitude, which would affect our energy. Yes, Dr. Swathi?
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Yes, absolutely. I mean, as we're changing the way that we feel, that actually does influence, of course, our brainwaves and the way that we are feeling about ourselves has been emanated to others. So, absolutely.
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Okay. We've got a few minutes left. You mentioned... And you had mentioned this company that you work with, greenspaceherbs.com. If people wanted to get more information about these energy-tuned herbs, what's this next step? What does that look like?
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Yeah, so right now, Greenspace Herbs is the pioneer in this space, doing so much of the research and the innovation to make this information more widely accessible. And so a great way to stay up to date with everything that they're doing. is going to greenspaceherbs.com and going into all of the resources they have and joining their mailing list. That would be a great way because right now, a lot of people take a lot of supplements. They might even take herbal supplements. But the thing is, if your energy is out of tune, actually the supplements might not be as effective as they want them to be. And so if our energy is more properly attuned with some of these strategies I spoke about today, including sunlight exposure, breathing, and movement, then some supplements like the ones that they're creating now that are going to have energy-tuned herbs can actually work better with our bodies.
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So what would that look like? How could somebody figure out what herbs they need to take? Is there a consultant if they go to this website to help them on that?
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So the website itself has a lot of great information and resources. And as they grow and start creating products, that's when you can actually engage with the team to figure out what exact herbs are great for you. You know, there are quite a few popular Ayurvedic herbs that they are interested in tuning those particular ones. Like, for example, if you've heard of ashwagandha, ashwagandha has been researched and used for thousands of years for stress. and for sleep. to improve sleep quality and decrease overall chronic stress. So that's just one herb that you can learn more about on their website. And after they have products commercially available, that can be also when you engage with the company and try to find out which ones could be the right fit for you.
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Okay. And so that, again, is greenspaceherbs.com. And they're not addictive, are they? No, they're not. Okay. Okay. Dr. Swathi, we have just a few seconds left, about 30 seconds. What's your final thoughts you'd like to leave with our listeners?
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My final thoughts are that if you're having a rough day or if you feel like there's so many things out of your control right now, what you do have control of are these simple strategies we talked about, about taking the deep breaths, set the red light, or when you're in the line at the grocery store, and really thinking about how you can get some sunlight exposure and some movement into your day. And I think that really will start to help.
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Okay. Well, Dr. Swathi Varanasi, thank you so much. This has been absolutely fascinating. Oh, thank you so much for having me. Have a wonderful day. And you as well. And our quote for the end of the show is from G.K. Chesterton. And he said this, the true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but because he loves what is behind him. So today, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals and like Superman, stand for truth, justice and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you. God bless America. Stay tuned for our number two.
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indeed let's have a conversation and welcome to our number two of the kim monson show thank you so much for joining us you each are treasured you're valued you have purpose today strive for excellence take care of your heart your soul your mind and your body my friends we were made for this moment in history and thank you to the team that's producer joe luke rachel zach echo charlie mike theresa amanda and all the people here at crawford broadcasting happy tuesday producer joe happy tuesday kim And it is beautiful. These days right now are absolutely beautiful, these autumn days here in Colorado. And so really, get outside, as Dr. Swathi said in our number one. If you missed that, really interesting regarding our energy levels. And Jo, one of the things that she mentioned was breathing. And I think that's one of the things that you mentioned to me as well. When you are having a stressful day, you use some breathing techniques, yes?
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Yes, ma'am. I use the four count breathing. And what is that exactly, Joe? So I breathe in for four seconds, hold for four seconds, breathe out for four seconds, hold for four seconds, and that just keeps repeating itself. And that's effective, right? Extremely. I was taught that when I think first grade, and then they retaught me that during boot camp.
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Okay. So there you hear it from Producer Joe. And you breathe in for four seconds, hold for four seconds, out for four seconds, hold for four seconds, and that can certainly help you with stress. So the things that you can learn on The Kim Monson Show. So thank you. And check out our website. That's kimmonson.com. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. send you a download for the voter's guide. And I hope that my voter's guide is a good tool for you to be an informed voter. And it's important to be an informed voter, not an influenced voter. And if you don't take the work to know what's on the ballot, understand the issues and the candidates, I would suggest that you don't vote. But I actually think voting is very important. So I guess connecting that dot is be an informed voter. And we hope that this will be a great tool for you. Our word of the day is query. And it is spelled Q-U-E-R-Y. It could be a question or an inquiry. a doubt in the mind or a mental reservation, or number three, a notation, usually a question mark, calling attention to an item in order to question its validity or accuracy. And I have a query regarding two different people have reached out to me and said that this is the first time this has happened to them, that they live in one county where they get their ballot, they're registered to vote, they have property in another county, And they got a ballot from that county as well. I also know that people are receiving ballots that have not voted in many, many years here in Colorado. And what that means is our voter rolls are clearly inflated. And that's why these lawsuits that you all helped fund are so important. And that's in the back and forth right now in what happens in law. But we need to query what's going on and we need to find out how much does it cost to print a ballot? And I guess it depends on how many questions are on the ballot to send that out. Just think of the amount of money that we are spending because these voter rolls are inflated. And so we need to query that. Our quote of the day is from G.K. Chesterton. He was born in 1874, died in 1936. He was an English author, philosopher, Christian apologist. And what that means is a defender of the Christian faith, a poet, journalist and magazine editor, editor. and a literary and art critic. And his wit, his style, defensive tradition made him a dominant figure in the early 20th century literature. And he said this, he said, the problem of disbelieving in God is not that a man ends up believing nothing. Alas, it is much worse. He ends up believing anything. And I think with this post-modernism time that we have been going through, I think that people realize this, believing in anything, you have your truth, I have my truth. No, there is real foundational truth, and that is what we search for on the show on a regular basis. We search for truth and clarity, and it's easy by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. And I am a totally independent voice, and that happens because of our sponsors, We have one of our great sponsors on the show right now, and that is John Bozen. John Bozen, welcome to the show.
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Wow. Okay, so if someone has been injured or knows someone that's been injured, in order for them to reach you, what is that best phone number?
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That best phone number is 303-999-9999. Again, that's John Bozen and Bozen Law, his whole team there, 303-999-9999. John Bozen, we will talk with you next week, and thank you for all that you do. Thank you for all that you do, Kim. I'll look forward to next week. Have a great rest of your show.
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And welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter while you are there and also download our voters guide. I hope that it will be a very helpful tool for you as you are completing your ballot. Just go to Kim Monson dot com. There's a red ribbon at the top. of the website and you just put in your name, your email, and we will send you a link to download that. And I hope that that will be a big help for you. And it is important that we be informed voters, not influenced voters, but informed voters. We have a civic duty to do that. But I wanted to ask you if you're ready for financial freedom. And we're going to talk with our guest on kind of a macro level here, and probably micro level as well. But call our friends at Mint Financial Strategies. As an independent firm and an accredited investment fiduciary, they always put your interests first. Mint means more than money. It stands for a meaningful relationship. information sharing, a network of smart strategies, and a thoughtful advisor who puts you in control. No cookie cutter plans, everything tailored to you. So give them a call. That's Mint Financial Strategies. That number is 303-285-3080, 303-285-3080. And pleased to have on the line with me, Dr. Murray Sabrin. He's a noted commentator, columnist, economist, and libertarian and He arrived in America from West Germany at the age of two with his parents and older brother. His parents were the only members of their respective families to survive the Holocaust in Poland. And they moved to the Lower East Side in Manhattan. He went to school in the Bronx. He graduated. He went on to become a professor of finance at Anisfield School of Business of Ramapo College in New Jersey. And he has a new book out. Dr. Murray Sabrin, welcome to the show.
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Great to be with you, Kim.
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And the subject for us to begin with is how can Americans, how can we make Americans financially independent? And I know this is something that you have thought about for years.
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Well, that's why I'm doing what I'm doing now, which is writing on Substack at murryshabrin.substack.com. And I'm creating the MAPI movement, Make Americans Financially Independent. And that means having a constitutional budget. And here's the real kicker, Kim. I want to give every American who pays income taxes a 20% to 40%. raise and that means abolishing the income taxes and payroll taxes and that would allow people to keep their own money as thompson jefferson said in his first inaugural address in 1801 and that's that's what he said is good government letting people keep the fruits of their labor so they can use their money that they earn to fulfill their values their peaceful values with their family, with their community, with their religious institutions and have a genuinely free society. That's why I wrote my first book that was published in 1995, which is a roadmap to creating a tax free America. And my worst fears have come true because we have spending that's out of control. One of the good things that Trump has done is, of course, versus lowered tax rates and started the deregulation process, which began under Jimmy Carter in the late 70s. Most people don't give Jimmy Carter credit for instituting, implementing a major deregulation policy, which really helped the economy boom in the 80s and 90s. So I've been following the economy since the 1970s, Kim, writing about it, speaking about it, teaching about it as a finance professor and especially my course on financial history in the United States. And there are storm clouds gathering. And in my lectures, I've talked about these things. And that's why I believe that if we don't have a major change in policy, which I advocate by creating a constitutional federal budget, we are going to have, I believe, nothing is guaranteed, of course, when you talk about the future. I believe we're going to have a financial crisis that's going to rival 1929 in the not too distant future.
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We were headed off of a cliff before Donald Trump was elected. Now, certainly under COVID, he expanded federal spending. I did see though a headline the other day that the deficit was down 2%. I've never seen a headline like that. Can we get this ship turned around?
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Well, this is what I think the president needs to do. He needs to make a speech to the American people saying, We have a problem that has been evolving for the past 100 years, believe it or not, 90 years since the New Deal where President Roosevelt expanded the size and scope of the federal government and created all these programs, beginning with Social Security, then Johnson 30 years later with Medicare and Medicaid, and then we have, of course, a huge military-industrial complex that President Eisenhower warned us about in his farewell address in 1961. He should say very clearly, we need to have a constitutional federal budget. What does that mean? The federal government, and here's the point that no one, Kim, has made that I know of in the media, probably on talk radio, I don't listen to all the talk shows around the country, but the federal government is not responsible for the economy. This is the legacy of the Great Depression when people looked to Washington to solve the problems when the economy imploded. under Herbert Hoover in 1929, 1930, 31, and 32, and people said, okay, we have this massive downturn in the economy, massive unemployment, massive contraction in production. What's the federal government going to do? Well, there is nothing in the Constitution that talks about why the federal government should have a responsibility for the economy, and the reason we had an implosion in the economy is because the Fed In the 1920s, what it's been doing for the last 30 years, printing money, manipulating interest rates, and giving us these false booms that always end in tears, whether it's the dot-com boom, the housing boom, and now some people have called this current situation the everything boom, where everything is inflated from baseball cards to... to artwork to housing to you name it stocks they're all inflated they're not at a natural level which means that the federal reserve should stop manipulating interest having said that we the president needs to say to the american people with no more federal dollars, which are taxpayer dollars, that are going to go to colleges, universities, corporations, individuals, and families. We need to have a free market. We need to have a vibrant nonprofit sector, which in the old days were called the mutual aid societies, which were wonderful institutions at the local level, helping people with unemployment benefits, life insurance, healthcare. In other words, the essence of a free society, Kim, is a vibrant private sector, and a very successful successful nonprofit sector. And I've been writing about this for decades. And if people embrace those values, that that culture of freedom, which is outlined in the Declaration of Independence, life, liberty and pursuit of happiness, it doesn't talk about entitlements. That's not what a free society is all about. The president to say a one year from now, all the federal tax dollars will stop flowing. So you have to become entrepreneurs raising money for your organization, whether it's a company a small business or a nonprofit or a college or university, you need to raise money the old fashioned way to voluntary exchange.
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I totally agree with you, Dr. Murray Sabrin, and people can find you at Substack, and that's M-U-R-R-A-Y-S, as in Sam, A-B-R-I-N, Murray Sabrin. So, Dr. Sabrin, we talk about federal spending all of the time, but what I've seen with those that love government is they also are working at the local and the county and the state level. So, for example, Denver, Mayor Mike Johnston has five different debt questions to extend debt. And the question on the ballot is disingenuous because we out here in Colorado, we have something called Tabor, which is Colorado's Taxpayers Bill of Rights, which basically says And it was an amendment passed in 1992 by the people of Colorado, which says, and I call them PBIs, politicians, bureaucrats and interested parties. If you want to raise taxes, if you want to extend debt or if you want to keep additional revenue or additional tax money that you've taken from us, we the people. above a generous growth of inflation plus population, you just have to ask us. Now, the ink wasn't even dry on this when we had PBIs on both sides of the aisle trying to figure out ways to get around it. But if we're going to have a tax increase, it has to be on the ballot. And there are five different questions on the Denver ballot to the tune of just under a billion dollars in taxes that they want to extend. And if people say no to this, their property taxes will go down, which I love. But then you look at the payback with the interest, it would be nearly double that. So we do talk so much about the federal level, but we need to really be watching at the local level as well and saying no to additional new taxes or extending debt. Dr. Sabrin.
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Well, this is why in my book I talk about property taxes. It's probably the second worst tax because if you don't pay them, they take away your house, and that's theft. There's only one institution that can take your property without due process, and that's the government. And so what I advocate at the local level is that we have – If you want police protection, you should pay just like you pay for the cable bill or your cell phone bill. If you want education, parents can get together and form co-ops so there's no property tax to pay for the schools. In other words, we need massive decentralization in our society. And as far as the police, which is a substantial portion of local budgets, We need to come to the realization that the police can't be everywhere, that we could use our own resources to protect the communities in which we live, have watch people, voluntary watch people. There's a voluntary police force in New York City. When I was a New York City school teacher, one of my colleagues was a voluntary police officer. He patrolled in the streets with other colleagues. So there are ways of doing these things without burning the taxpayer. And this is why we need to have a thorough discussion in this country at the local level, the state level, and the federal level about what the role of government should be. And the question is, how do you pay for it? And since I believe, as other libertarians believe, that taxation is theft, it's an involuntary exchange is the polite way of saying it. We the people cannot tax our neighbors. We can't take money without their permission. We have to persuade them to buy our product and service or give us a grant, a gift. But the government can do this with impunity. And that's the crisis we have in this country is that people think. government spending and taxes is, quote, normal, is valid, is moral. And I take the position, as do a portion of the population, that no, a free society means voluntary exchanges between people. And the government, of course, how much government do we need? I contend that everything the government does at the federal, state, and local level can be done by the private sector and the nonprofit sector. And therefore, government should be at a minimal size at the federal, state, and local level. And people don't think that way because of the Great Depression, where people look to Washington, to the states and cities to eliminate risk in their lives. And that's the real issue, Kim, is that risk is probably the four-letter word that people don't want to embrace because life changes. It has inherent risks in it. From the time we get up in the morning, drive to work, terrible things can happen to people. And so how do you alleviate risk in our society? Well, you create institutions and organizations that help with that. That's why we had food banks, Habitat for Humanity, local nonprofit health centers. I helped create one in northern New Jersey when I lived in New Jersey. There's a great one here in Naples, Florida, where I live now. It's called the Neighborhood Health Clinic. and they've been around for 26 years kid listen to this they have not taken a penny of taxpayer dollars because the founder a physician said i don't want the government involved i'm going to do this the old-fashioned way which is philanthropy and they're thriving they're expanding and they're helping people who with little means to get quality health care at no cost to taxpayers
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Well, I think it's pretty clear, based upon the Declaration and the Constitution, Article 1, Section 8, there's no role for government in retirement benefits, in health benefits, in education, in housing. These are things that are left to the private sector or the nonprofit sector. I mean, government has a responsibility to keep us peaceful. I think that's what President Kennedy said. In his address in 1963 at American University, that the government has a very important responsibility. Keep the peace, secure the borders, and at the local level, make sure we have the bad guys off the streets. And, of course, have a court system to adjudicate disputes, which could be done through arbitration, through arbitration. nonprofit organizations as well. So it's very clear to me, having read the Constitution numerous times since I became a US citizen in 1959, that the government has a very limited role to play. And unfortunately, as I said before, because of the Great Depression and the Great Society, People in Washington and in academia think that government should have a much more expansive role. And that's why we have a $7 trillion budget and a $2 trillion deficit and a $37 trillion debt. Because the politicians are not being honest with the American people. Because if the people want all this government spending, then they should be happy to be taxed to pay for it. But people don't believe that they're getting value for their tax dollars. That's why taxes don't go up when spending goes up. People in Washington think it's a free lunch that they can spend and not tax the people to pay for these things. And that explains the massive debt that we have. And that's why I created the... make americans financial independent movement with mafia usa.com m-a-s-i-u-s-a.com and the goal is uh to really get the dialogue going to make sure that the government is in in its uh proper role which is very limited according to the constitution and uh that's the debate we should have in this country and that's why we have a constitutional crisis that no one in washington wants to talk about or probably even on talk radio i don't see i don't hear many voices saying Government should be restricted to Article 1, Section 8. And if we had that debate, we would win very easily because... When the prohibitionists wanted prohibition for alcohol, there was nothing in the Constitution that gave the federal government that authority. So what did they do? They passed the 18th Amendment, which gave the federal government the authority. When the Supreme Court knocked down the income tax in 1895, what did the pro-income tax people do? They got the 16th Amendment passed. And so since then, we basically are in a post-constitutional America where the government can basically do anything it wants, and we the people suffer for it, between taxes, regulation, and this massive debt, which sucks resources away from the private sector into the government.
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So with the government shutdown, Trump has said that basically he's firing some workers, shrinking the size of government. And these PBIs, though, are not going to go away easily because once they live off of the taxpayer and they're not having to provide value for value, but they try to promote the illusion that they are providing value. And I'll give an example out here in Colorado with homelessness. Mayor Mike Johnston talks about the homelessness all the time and how he wants everybody to have a house and tax people and government spending. We were able to defeat that measure last year that was on the ballot. But when I look at the amount of money that's going into homelessness, the tragedy of homelessness in Colorado, and I look at the PBIs that are living off of this homelessness industrial complex, they will never solve that problem because if they do, that gravy train goes away, and many of them are being paid handsome sums to fight homelessness, and they have no intention of solving that problem whatsoever.
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Yeah, and this is why I linked that to a wonderful article that really summarizes the problem in America by Peter Drucker, the great management consultant who wrote a piece of the Wall Street Journal saying government has proved incompetent at solving social problems. And he calls for replacing the welfare state with nonprofits, which are much more effective, much more profitable. cost-efficient, and that's what we should be doing. Just as we had mutual aid societies before the Great Depression, we need to have a robust nonprofit sector to help people get back on their feet. We know the old adage, give a person the fish you feed them for a day, eat your person the fish you feed them for a lifetime. The homelessness problem is a real tragedy for individuals and their families because these are people that are not productive. They essentially are children again who are adults, but they don't have any means of earning any money because they don't have any skills probably to get a paycheck. And that's the tragedy we have in America. And what does it come down to? Again, our culture has shifted in my lifetime 180 degrees from the 1950s and 60s when I grew up to where we are today, where people have despair. The drug culture is pervasive and it's not going to be solved by the current administration or any administration with what they're doing. We need to have a real reset culturally, and that doesn't happen overnight. That takes time. And here's where families, religious institutions, nonprofits need to work in concert to help people get back on their feet.
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well and if we get rid of the uh income tax then we don't really have to have non-profits if you will non-profits uh have really been taking advantage of the um not not having to pay taxes non-profit doesn't mean they don't make money in fact i have looked at uh some of the again the salaries are just handsome salaries for these non-profits if we get rid of the income tax then we would get back to charities that are helping people. Where people have more money in their pocket, they can choose which charities that they want to give to, and they will also make sure that the charity is doing what they say they do. But so many of these nonprofits now are getting government grants, which is not the proper role of government, and they're not effective in solving the challenges that they say that they will face. Dr. Sabrin, we are out of time, basically. 30 seconds. What's your final thoughts you'd like to leave with our listeners? And again, you can find him at Substack, Marie Sabrin, that's S-A-B-R-I-N, at Substack.com. Your final thought, Dr. Sabrin.
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Well, I hope everyone goes to MAFIUSA, M-A-F-I-U-S-A.com, and participate in this movement, which I hope will blossom so by the end Remember this anniversary of the Declaration of Independence 50 years from now. The American people are financially independent, hopefully sooner, because if we do that, then I think all these problems will be diminished or it's not go away completely because life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness is our God-given rights, and we need to pursue that vigorously so we can get away from the dependency on Washington, D.C.
SPEAKER 04 :
I totally agree. Dr. Sabrin, thank you so much. It's been a while since we've had a conversation, so I'm so glad that you were on the show today. Thank you.
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Thank you, Kim. It's great to be with you again.
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Okay. But once we fall back, I'll be on the same time as you because we don't change time while everyone else does.
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I wish we were like Arizona. But speaking of Arizona, Turning Point is located in Arizona. And, of course, this assassination of Charlie Kirk for just having a conversation is unbelievable. But a lot has happened since the assassination. People, new chapters of Turning Point, and they're just being so creative. So what's your read on that right now?
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Well, I think people are still reeling from it, to be honest, and still find it kind of surreal that it actually happened. But I do think the organization itself has, you know, just exploded in the aftermath of all of that. And so, you know, once again, you know, God uses these situations for good. And it's just miraculous what is happening and how their message has expanded, not just in the United States, but around the world. And I think it will continue to do so. And it's just been a very interesting process to see it all unfold. And although tragic, you know, you can see the silver lining that's being taken advantage of. Which, you know, you have to do in tragedy. Well, it is heartbreaking. It's heartbreaking, yet also inspiring at the same time. And I think so many eyes have been opened to Charlie's message. And that's what he would have wanted.
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Well, in his faith, of course, my heart hurts for his wife, Erica, their children. And so many people in America have ended up giving their lives for faith and for liberty. And we have to continue to stand on the shoulders of those giants, continue to have these conversations and continue to be engaged in this this culture. And, Susan, I found this so interesting. The NFL and the Super Bowl halftime event. entertainment has continued to get worse and degrade every year. And I don't even really watch it. Of course, there's always the hubbub about all of the advertisers and what's the best ad. So this guy that's been, I think he's still scheduled to be the halftime entertainment, is a guy named Bad Bunny. Well, that's right off the bat. But I looked up some of the lyrics. for one of his big hits, I Like It, and he worked with Beyonce on that and somebody else. But in the lyrics, it's focused on really tangible things like furs and money and diamonds. But it uses the B word. It uses the N word, which I find it so interesting that if your skin is of a certain color, you can use the N word. And if it's not, you're not supposed to, which I think that's pretty racist. But anyway, the NFL, it's like they just are continuing to push this junk. Yeah. And then Turning Point has said, we're going to have an alternative, and we're going to have the All-American Halftime Show, which will be streamed on a website, I think. I find this so creative and inspiring, Susan Harris.
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Yeah, I think it's fascinating, and I think it is a great opportunity to offer an alternative. I will say, as far as the NFL's choice... You know, they contract that whole thing out with Jay-Z's company. And so I'm not sure how much actual NFL people had to say about what the halftime show was going to be. But I believe, and this is just my personal opinion, Kim, about the whole Super Bowl event. There is a marketing process going on that we as Americans don't really understand. understand or know about. And that is the NFL wants to be a worldwide brand. And because they want to be a worldwide brand, they're trying to appeal to a worldwide audience, not just we see the Superbowl as an American show. And I think the NFL is starting to move away from that. And maybe they have to, because there's so much competition for our views and, um, I really believe that they made this decision based on their long-term branding goals. And we as conservative Americans kind of feel like we own the Super Bowl in a weird way. And I don't think we do. And I think we have to let them do what they're going to do. And we can watch it if we want to watch it and not watch it if we don't want to watch it. But Turning Point offering an alternative show is great for people who would like to watch the game, even though the Super Bowl is just very minimally about the game, quite frankly. But people who do want to watch the game and the commercials that are sometimes humorous would have a place to take their family's eyes and ears away. during the halftime show. And I think that's a great thing to do. And it's, again, a way to expand the message of faith that Charlie Kirk always wanted to do. And, you know, just a way to not feel like we have to boycott, so to speak, the Super Bowl in its entirety and still be a part of it. But honestly, I really don't think the NFL... views the Super Bowl anymore as an American show.
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I had never thought of that. But they have such an opportunity. That's the Susan Harris opinion. But still, people throughout the globe have wanted to come to America because of our American idea. So they would have an opportunity to really celebrate this American idea. Instead, what they are putting forth is really things that do not celebrate the human spirit at all.
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I agree. I agree 100% with that. But I also don't think The NFL does and their ownership does. And if we are true capitalists and believe in free markets, we have to allow them to do what they want to do. And we vote with our dollars and our views. And, you know, there was a time for a while because of their pushback on BLM. and kneeling during the National Anthem, we definitely had an impact. A lot of people walked away from the Super Bowl and stopped watching. And I think it did have an impact on the NFL and their decisions that they made. And they kind of backed off on all of that a little bit. And slowly but surely, I think they got a lot of conservatives and just, you know, your average Americans, they got us back into their market. And so I think they got comfortable with that. And now they're trying again to see what they can do to expand their marketing. And we have choices. And now TPUSA is going to offer us even another choice. And so maybe that is the choice we can make. But honestly, I'm just not sure that the NFL is an American pastime anymore.
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Well, I'll have to noodle that around and think about that. Because if, in fact, because of chasing this global market, they disenfranchise at least half of the Americans again. I think that that will really affect their bottom line. And so, as you say, we will use our freedom to make our choices on that. Susan Harris, thank you. This has gone way too quickly. I always appreciate these conversations and perspective. But we will talk with you again next month on the same time, okay? Same time zone.
SPEAKER 20 :
That sounds great. Everybody, go check out the Voter's Guide for sure.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay. Thanks, Susan Harris. And thank you to you and your family for your support of the show as well. I really appreciate you.
SPEAKER 20 :
Back at you, Kim. Thanks so much. Bye-bye.
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And our quote for the end of the show is from G.K. Chesterton. And he said this. He said, the true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but because he loves what is behind him. So my friends today, be grateful. Read great books. Think good thoughts. Listen to beautiful music. Communicate and listen well. Live honestly and authentically. Strive for high ideals. And like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you. And God bless America.
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This episode of Rush to Reason with John Rush brings forth an engaging conversation traversing from entertaining trivia to serious political undertakings. As Andy and John discuss the atmospheric phenomena of space dust, they segue into an analysis of Colorado's ballot measures, revealing potential impacts on education and taxation. The conversation deftly addresses the logistics behind school funding while scrutinizing the fairness of taxing high-income families. Stay with us for a dive into how these issues affect local communities and ignite broader discussions on governance and responsibility.
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Happy Tuesday. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Myself, Andy Pate, and beautiful day, Andy.
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It is a gorgeous day out there.
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We'll take it.
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Oh, I love it. I love days like this, like in the middle of fall or the middle of spring, that just surprise you.
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Very nice.
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Oh, it's wonderful.
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Very nice day. Charlie Grimes, of course, our engineer. Yes, there's a possible question. Approximately how many tons of space dust settles on the Earth each year? The answer is 40,000 tons.
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And that's just Oklahoma.
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Yeah, exactly.
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It all settles in Oklahoma.
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It blows this way.
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By the way, does it actually settle or does it burn up in the atmosphere? I have no idea.
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That one I don't know.
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Okay.
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I guess settles on, meaning I guess it must float down through the atmosphere and...
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show up here i guess i don't know that's weird i never really thought about that yeah i know now we're gaining dirt right of course now the moon has one-sixth of the gravity right of of the earth if you say so okay and none of the atmosphere so that should be accumulating pretty quick on the moon right you would think well okay never mind for this is this goes against all of you folks that don't think we ever went to the moon
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The reason why they put such big pads on the lunar module and the reason they had such big boots is because all of the evolutionists at the time thought because they think that the Earth is millions upon millions upon millions of years old that there'd be all, to Andy's point, they all thought there'd be feet of space dust up on the moon.
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Right. They thought that we would sink right down in.
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Correct. So they built all of those things to where it would actually go on there and like snowshoes would kind of settle on top and not sink down in. So my point with all of you that don't think we ever went to the moon, if that really were the case, they would have made it look like that actually happened when they landed because they would have wanted to prove their theory of a huge, long, old Earth and how much actual dust was up there. But that's not what happened.
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You know, John, that's a very good point, because actually they found just a few inches of dust.
SPEAKER 15 :
That's right. Proving, in my point, it's a young earth, not an old earth.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, that would certainly indicate that dust has not been accumulating.
SPEAKER 15 :
For billions of years.
SPEAKER 05 :
Or even millions. Correct. Or even one million.
SPEAKER 15 :
Correct. And so, yeah, I mean, it certainly seems— Which, again, for me, goes back to the whole—those of you out there that don't think the moon landing ever happened, do you think a bunch of people that really believe in evolution to the point they worship it would have not done that if, in fact, they produced the moon landing?
SPEAKER 05 :
No, they wouldn't show you hopping around on the moon with only a few inches of dust.
SPEAKER 15 :
Absolutely.
SPEAKER 05 :
They wouldn't have done that.
SPEAKER 15 :
That's my point, Andy.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 15 :
So those that don't think we ever went, there's proof, just one, by the way, but that's one proof, in my opinion, that says we did because it actually defies their whole old Earth theory.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, that's a good point. I hadn't really thought about it. But you do know the moon is flat. It just faces us all the time. Well, that's true.
SPEAKER 15 :
It's just the same way all the time.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 15 :
It's a big dish up there.
SPEAKER 05 :
Exactly. It rotates around, always facing us.
SPEAKER 15 :
Oh, and I'm sure I'll get some comments on what I just said a moment ago. That's fine. Shoot them off to us. 307-282-22B, my guest. I'll take it. I don't care. Possible question of today, which state tops the list as the fast food capital of the U.S.? Which state tops the list as the fast food capital of the U.S.? ?
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, I mean, they're all packed with fast food.
SPEAKER 15 :
That's a fact.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 15 :
But this one's tops. Pick your state. It's probably not what most people think.
SPEAKER 05 :
No. I mean, in Wisconsin, my gosh, it's everywhere.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, and I would, again, because of the size of some of the states that we have, like, for example, California, how many people are populated there and so on, you would think that would be the top answer. I'll give you a hint. It's not California.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, do they mean concentrated or whatever? Because, I mean, look, the healthier states like Colorado, it certainly wouldn't be.
SPEAKER 15 :
No, it's not here.
SPEAKER 05 :
And I wouldn't think it'd be in the south because, honestly, John, they got a lot of good down-home cooking. They don't need fast food. Okay, this will be interesting. All right. I don't know, but it'll be interesting.
SPEAKER 15 :
And what it has to do with is they consider 22 major chains across the country from Taco Bell to KFC to Chipotle and compare the number of locations drawn from the restaurant's websites as well as the restaurant location maps against population data.
SPEAKER 05 :
Oh, against population.
SPEAKER 15 :
So, in other words, you've got way more of them than you do people in some cases. Not, you know, relatively speaking.
SPEAKER 05 :
I'll say Wyoming, then, because John's the only one who lives there.
SPEAKER 15 :
That's true. Only one person. One person. Charlie says Ohio. I will give everybody a hint. It's on the East Coast. The state is on the East Coast. So that's the one hint I'll give you all outside of that.
SPEAKER 05 :
Wyoming is on the East Coast?
SPEAKER 15 :
I didn't know that. Well, it's not even east of us.
SPEAKER 05 :
No.
SPEAKER 15 :
A little bit. Not much. I'm wrong already. All right. So there you go. There's your question of today. All right. We come back, Andy, because we were talking about this during the break and I thought we ought to anyways. In fact, Brad from Lakewood brought this up yesterday. That is ballot measures LL and MM. We'll come back and talk about that here in a moment. Hopefully people are bright enough to know that those are things that we should vote no on. But we'll talk about that. as soon as we come back, along with a lot of other things in today's program. Dr. Scott coming up next. Again, he is my doctor. He would love to help you with all of your medical needs and just staying healthy. I say medical needs. Really, what he wants to do is make sure that you're not going to the doctor all of the time. There's ways to do that by living healthier, and he'll help you with all of that. 303-663-6990.
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SPEAKER 03 :
Country. Reason. Now back to John Rush.
SPEAKER 15 :
All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Okay, before we get into LL and MM, and I don't know if these are true. You see these memes all over the Internet. Memes are always true. Yeah, always. So what's a meme? Oh, I will. I'm getting there. I'm talking about the meme first. I'm going to talk about this meme, then we'll get to LL and MM.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 15 :
But this particular meme, again, I don't know if these are true or not, but this is supposedly Hillary Clinton on X. And, you know, there's a big remodel going on now for the ballroom at the White House, which, you know, there's people that are complaining that, you know, why is he doing this now? It's all privately funded, by the way. He's not using any tax dollars to do this. And they're adding on a big wing for a ballroom and so on. And I don't know that we've done any major upgrades to the White House in quite some time.
SPEAKER 05 :
Why would anyone complain about a privately funded upgrade to— Because people are knuckleheads. Well, that's insane.
SPEAKER 15 :
So, again, I don't know if this is true, but supposedly Hillary says it's not his house, it's your house, and he's destroying it. Well, somebody else tweeted right back and said, your husband had sex in the Oval Office, probably should sit this one out. I don't know if that's true. Okay, I have no idea if any of that's true, but I thought it was funny either way.
SPEAKER 05 :
You know, I mean, Clinton probably, well, never mind.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah. Okay, so what's LL and MM? And those are going to be, if you haven't voted yet, some of you have ballots, maybe you have, but if you haven't voted yet, LL is a Retain Excess Revenue Measure. The measure asks voters to allow the state to keep and spend $12.4 million in excess tax revenue that was collected under the original Healthy School Meals for All program that was Proposition FF passed in 2022. What happened if it passes? The state would be allowed to use this revenue to continue funding the free school meals program. If it fails, the $12.4 million would be refunded to Colorado households with an adjusted gross income of $300,000 or less. Now, MM, this measure proposes increasing taxes on high-earning households to provide more funding for healthy school meals for all program and the Supplemental Nutritional Assistance Program, SNAP, in other words. How does it work? It would change the amount of federal income tax deductions for high-income households, $300,000 or more adjusted gross income. that they can apply to their state taxes. What if it passes? The state would raise an estimated $95 million in additional revenue for those two programs, and if it fails, the free school meal program would likely have to scale back and would be limited to low-income schools and students, which, by the way, it ought to in the first place anyways. What now? It ought to be limited to low-income schools and students anyways. But point being, these are for the children measures, quote-unquote, as Andy said earlier.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, but it's soak the rich for the kids.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, soak the rich for the kids.
SPEAKER 05 :
I find that very offensive, and I'm not rich, okay? I don't make $300, okay, John? Well, I'm retired, but you know what I mean. I get it. Obviously, I don't make $300, and so this doesn't affect me, and it's still... Really offensive.
SPEAKER 15 :
It's very offensive. And I'm with you, Andy.
SPEAKER 05 :
This is ridiculous.
SPEAKER 15 :
It's offensive whether you're somebody that makes that money or you don't make that money. And for all of you that are listening to think, well, how are we going to fund these programs then? Here's the reality, and this is happening across the state. It's happening across the state in the majority of districts we have in this state. Enrollment is down. Yeah. Public schools in general are having less students annually show up, but yet we're spending more per district than we ever have on education. John, they jacked up the property taxes.
SPEAKER 05 :
Correct. They jacked them up through the sky. Correct. Okay. And so they got way more money coming in, and they need far less money for the schools. And now they're saying, we want to soak the rich for even more money for this program. I'm sorry, you don't have any money elsewhere in the school budget to handle this program?
SPEAKER 15 :
They have plenty of money.
SPEAKER 05 :
Of course they do.
SPEAKER 15 :
If they would learn to control the admin budget of things, and frankly, folks, there are schools out there that I'm sorry to say, and some would probably be offended me for saying this, but I really don't care. There are schools out there that, frankly, they should combine efforts. In other words, they should have two schools nearby, figure out which one has more students than the other, combine the two into one, and sell off the property off of the other one and put that money back into the coffers. absolutely they should be selling off some of their properties because their attendance is way down hey which really quick if you do what i just said andy keep in mind all of you listening we've got bus services that have to run to each school and all sorts of different things there's a tremendous savings i don't know the exact numbers i'm on a school board but it wouldn't take long to figure this out you shut a school down huge savings by doing so across the board
SPEAKER 05 :
Exactly. And I know there are people out there right now saying, wait a minute, our school is packed. Yeah, then we're not talking about your school.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, that's not you then.
SPEAKER 05 :
Exactly. There are schools where enrollment is way down. Where they're not packed. You know, and here's another thing. Because the schools, I'm just going to say it, sorry for my French, they suck so badly.
SPEAKER 15 :
They do, Andy.
SPEAKER 05 :
That this is why so many people have pulled their kids out of these schools, put them in private schools and homeschooled. And it's like, no, wait a minute. They pulled their kids out of these schools, put them in private schools, homeschools, which means you have fewer kids. And now rather than cut back on your your costs. because you have fewer customers, right? You want to keep bringing in, the amount of money coming into you has gone up because of what they did with property taxes, and yet you want even more? Look, the bottom line is they could easily move a portion of the money that they've already gotten in. To take care of kids' school lunches. They can do it easily. But no, no, no, no, no. So when they say that this money, that what they're going to do is soak the rich to pay for kids' lunches, they're totally lying. What they're going to do is soak the rich so it can offset the kids' lunches so that they can keep their money in their grubby hands for all the other projects.
SPEAKER 15 :
Money is fungible, folks. Totally. Never forget that, especially when it comes to – it's fungible everywhere. I was going to say especially in government, but it's fungible everywhere. It doesn't matter if it's a nonprofit. It doesn't matter if it's government. It doesn't matter if it's your family, okay? And let me give you a quick explanation, okay? You have X amount of budget that you as a family need on a monthly basis to run.
SPEAKER 01 :
Right.
SPEAKER 15 :
Some of that money you spend on, you know, entertainment. You maybe have a car payment, the house payment, insurance, food, clothing. You get the drift. Okay. Yeah. And maybe you're one of those persons that even categorizes all those things. That's great. You know, whatever. Some do, some don't. Okay. Just depends on how you run your budget. Let's say that all of a sudden something happens and you come in to, you know, maybe you get a nice little bonus somewhere. All of a sudden you win a lottery ticket and all of a sudden 10 grand comes in. Andy, in most cases, I know there's some exceptions to this, but in most cases, that family will just stick that money in the bank and it offsets all of the things I just mentioned.
SPEAKER 01 :
Of course.
SPEAKER 15 :
Even if you say, well, you know, we're going to take two grand of that and go on a vacation. Well, that's two grand you have to go on vacation that you would have normally taken out of someplace else that would have lowered everything else. At the end of the day, the 10 grand is the 10 grand is the 10 grand.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right. You could say or you could say, hey, you know what? I'm going to take the entire 10 grand. We're going to dedicate it to redoing our landscaping. OK, well, that means that's all that money that you wouldn't have had to take out of other areas to do.
SPEAKER 15 :
Or money that you would have saved or borrowed or whatever you would have done doesn't have to be done anymore.
SPEAKER 05 :
Exactly. So projecting this to LL and MM folks, all they want to do. is take this money in so they don't have to spend a bunch of the extra money they already have.
SPEAKER 15 :
That's right.
SPEAKER 05 :
That's exactly right, Andy.
SPEAKER 1 :
100%.
SPEAKER 05 :
Their costs have dropped dramatically because they have far fewer students and they've gotten more money because of the property values.
SPEAKER 15 :
Let's add one other layer to this, too.
SPEAKER 05 :
They just want to swim in money.
SPEAKER 15 :
That's right, because don't forget, folks, and this maybe isn't being done yet, but it should be, and I'm guessing it will be. AI, when it comes to a lot of the admin things that happens in organizations like schools and districts and so on, you're going to see people losing jobs or not being replaced when they retire or whatever the case may be, because AI is going to be able to come along and do a lot of people's jobs for them, meaning they won't even have the staffing needs required. down the road that they have right now.
SPEAKER 05 :
Oh, yeah, because a lot of what the administration has to do in a school is research and go through all these kids' names and their backgrounds and so forth, their medical needs, everything. AI would make that instantaneous.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, where you would have a team of two or three people doing that, you could run that down to one person.
SPEAKER 05 :
Exactly. I mean, all you need is data input, and then you're there. And from there, it's maintenance.
SPEAKER 15 :
And if you've got even—for all of you listening, some of you may not know this, some of you may know this, but even if you've got the data, even if it's not electronic, if you have the ability to use your phone to take a picture of the data and upload it as a picture to ChatGPT or any of the other AI platforms that are out there, it will take those numbers even from something that's handwritten and create the data Andy's talking about.
SPEAKER 05 :
It'll do the data— That's right.
SPEAKER 15 :
You don't even have to manually input it. It'll do it for you.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, yeah. It'll do the data entry for you.
SPEAKER 15 :
And by the way, they have it all electronic anyways, but I'm just giving an example, Andy, to where people would say, well, yeah, well, what about the people that have to put that in? They don't now.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, but I'm going to give you the bad news here, John. This comes from an ex-Democrat, you know, somebody who was raised on the hard left. I believe that these two propositions are going to pass. You're probably correct. Because they worded them well.
SPEAKER 15 :
Take from the rich, give to the poor.
SPEAKER 05 :
Not enough people are going to listen to Rush to Reason. I mean, you have a very big base here, but it's not a majority of the entire state of Colorado.
SPEAKER 15 :
No, not when it comes to voters, it's not.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right, right. And so... Not enough people are going to hear the truth on this show. So all they're going to hear is this. What? So if I'm against this, I want people making over $300,000 to get their money back and kids won't get food? Because they're saying right here.
SPEAKER 01 :
That's right.
SPEAKER 05 :
It says right here in the proposal that only the very poorest kids then will be able to get their food. That's ridiculous. Your costs are down. You have way fewer students and you have more money.
SPEAKER 15 :
Right.
SPEAKER 05 :
Before and getting LL or MM. Right.
SPEAKER 15 :
Right.
SPEAKER 05 :
And you are telling the voters of Colorado – and the reason I say this is going to work is because I was raised by the side that did this. This is brilliant. We knew we were lying to you, okay? We knew we were lying to you. We knew we were conning you, and we knew which kind of cons would work in which settings. And I'm telling you, in this blue state, I believe this will pass. Now, maybe – I'm hopeful – maybe the people of Colorado will be smart enough – But I don't think so, because if it's something where we would all get a rebate, I think there would be a chance that these things would fail.
SPEAKER 15 :
No, this is the rebate of $300,000 or more, so people are going to say, what's a rich guy like that need the money for anyways?
SPEAKER 05 :
Bingo.
SPEAKER 15 :
And there are kids that are starving.
SPEAKER 05 :
It's wonderfully structured to con stupid people, okay? And that's why I think it'll pass.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, dumb voters, uneducated voters.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 15 :
You're right.
SPEAKER 05 :
I'm saying this will pass 60-40.
SPEAKER 15 :
You probably aren't wrong. Now, for those of you listening— All of the things we just gave you is ammunition to go talk to friends, relatives, family, people you go to church with, people you're at school with, which, again, for those of you that are listening, this isn't a political voting for this candidate or that candidate. You can talk about these things anywhere you want, including church. In fact, it can be talked about from the pulpit. You can talk about candidates from the pulpit. That's another discussion for another day. But you can do whatever you want to when it comes to that at the end of the day. But regardless of, this isn't really a quote-unquote political divide issue. This is how well is your money being spent issue.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah. And there's only two things that you have to remember, and John already mentioned them right at the beginning. Okay? Number one, enrollment is way down. They need far less money. Number two, and everybody out there knows this, your property taxes are way up over what they were just a couple years ago. That means they have way more money for fewer students. They don't need this.
SPEAKER 15 :
Money is fungible. That's the third thing, so don't forget those three legs. Right. Add that one at the end. Money is fungible, meaning if they get money in in one area... That means that's money they can go spend somewhere else. And by the way, most people, most teachers even would know exactly what I'm talking about. That money is not going to make it down to teacher salaries, by the way.
SPEAKER 05 :
Oh, no.
SPEAKER 15 :
That's the last place the money is going to go. No matter what they tell you, it's not going there.
SPEAKER 05 :
No. I mean, a small portion.
SPEAKER 15 :
If any, Andy. This is going to go to the admin side of the fence.
SPEAKER 05 :
Absolutely. It's going to get eaten up by the people with the power.
SPEAKER 15 :
That's right.
SPEAKER 05 :
You know, does it surprise you, Mr. Businessman, how few people still, how few people understand the whole concept of money being fungible?
SPEAKER 15 :
No, most don't. Because they think that it's a— It blows my mind. Even people in churches don't understand this. They want to do a dedicated offering. Well, I don't want my money going here. Okay, well, fine, whatever suits you, whatever. But you realize at the end of the day that it's still offsetting something else, right?
SPEAKER 05 :
No, the church doesn't have to put money into that program.
SPEAKER 15 :
Correct.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay. Now the church has more money for all this stuff.
SPEAKER 15 :
If that makes you feel good, then do whatever you want to. But at the end of the day, it's no different than throwing it in the offering plate.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, but John, this is what I was telling you before. As an ex-Democrat, I'm telling you, we knew the con. We knew that if we had something that was dedicated like this. Mm-hmm. Well, that just means you don't have to put any other money into it. Yeah, but we knew 70, 80% of the voters wouldn't get that. No matter how many times smart people told them that money is fungible, they won't get it. And now they'll think that you are actually taking food away from kids if you don't vote for this.
SPEAKER 15 :
You're 100 percent right, Andy. They are dumb. Yeah. So you're probably correct. It probably I mean, typically Colorado is telling any before we came on air. Typically, Colorado has very fiscally responsible voters. True. And then they'll do stupid things and vote for legislatures that will still run. run and take that same thing and pass it legislatively that didn't make it on a ballot measure. That's how stupid our voters are. But in this one, Andy's right. The way they're couching this, it'll be the, you know, Robin Hood effect, and it'll be the, you know, rich man against the poor man end of things, and they're going to vote for the poor man.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right. If you don't vote for these, you're starving kids for the wealthy.
SPEAKER 15 :
Even though you're not, folks.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right.
SPEAKER 15 :
Trust me.
SPEAKER 05 :
It's a total.
SPEAKER 15 :
It's a con. It's a con.
SPEAKER 05 :
You're not. It's not just a lie. It's an obvious lie. Anybody who uses two brain cells and takes 20 seconds to look at the issue will understand that. But I just asked too much, I believe, for 60 percent of the voters.
SPEAKER 15 :
You're probably correct, Andy. Unfortunately, you're probably correct, which this goes back to as we close this. No, this won't be a voting machine error. No, this won't be anything along those lines. No, nobody is packing the ballot boxes. No, this is the pulse of Coloradans.
SPEAKER 05 :
Sadly, yes.
SPEAKER 15 :
I'm sorry to say, but that's the answer. It won't be anything else that I just mentioned, which a lot of people will accuse it of after it's all said and done. No, they're not going to have to cheat to win on this one. They've already cheated. They've conned people in the wording of the measures. They've already cheated in the way they did that.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah. Absolutely.
SPEAKER 15 :
So, folks, there will be no cheating. This will pass just because of that alone. Because basically, if you don't do this, kids are going to starve and the rich get richer.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 15 :
That's how they're couching this.
SPEAKER 05 :
I'm just going to say it, John. Voting in favor of LL and MM is stupid, and I think it'll win.
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SPEAKER 15 :
And I know I say it a lot, but if you don't believe me, LL and MM prove Marxism in Colorado is alive and well. Oh, yeah. That's exactly what that is, by the way. Those are two Marxist measures by all means possible. By all definitions, that's exactly what Marxism is. Those are Marxist ballot measures through and through.
SPEAKER 1 :
Yep.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, and by the way, it also shows I think people on the right need to understand they need to get their messaging better because the people on the left have theirs down cold. They do. That's good messaging, man. I can at least look at this strategically and say, very well done. I'm standing up and applauding. You conned people beautifully.
SPEAKER 15 :
That's how you would do it. Leading to our next topic. Yes. And this is constructive criticism, okay? For all of you that are listening, this is constructive criticism. I didn't watch the entire governor's panel, the GOP governors that are running, the candidates is what I should say, the candidate panel that was up in Fort Collins over the weekend. I watched a good portion of it. I did watch all of the intros that each candidate gave, and I should have counted, but I think there was a dozen or so candidates at that particular gathering. And the one theme, through and through, Not every candidate said this, but far too many did. Their opening statements were, yep, I'm going to paraphrase here, but yep, the state's gone to hell in a handbasket. I'm here to fix it. We already know that. No offense. Back to Andy's point on messaging. We already know that. Yeah. There's no new message there. What are you as a candidate going to do that's different than everybody else? I don't need to know that we're already going to hell in a handbasket. We know that. What is it you're going to do for me, the voter?
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, don't get up there and blend in with the other 11 on the stage.
SPEAKER 15 :
Which is kind of what happened Saturday night, as most of the messages, at least in the opening statements, were exactly what... You know, Governor Polis has led us down the wrong track. We get that. We all know that.
SPEAKER 05 :
Now... They should come out immediately and talk about the customers. Don't talk about yourself. Don't talk about Polis. Talk about the customers. You can refer to Polis. But talk about the customers and what they deserve. Say, you deserve this, this, and this. And describe a greater Colorado that they deserve. Imagine if you could have this and this and this and this. Then they can get excited.
SPEAKER 15 :
For example, had I been on that panel, which I'm not because I'm not running, I would have stood up. The first thing I would have said is, you guys all ready for a change? Yeah. Guess what? I'm here to make that change happen. And you lead into all the things you're going to do to make the change happen. There you go. No one said that. No one said that? No, no one said that. Not in that way, no.
SPEAKER 05 :
We're running to replace a governor and nobody ran on change?
SPEAKER 15 :
Not in the way I just said it, no. Okay. I mean, they may have gotten there further into their little intro speech, but you've got to come right out of the gun and say exactly what I just... Hey, you guys all ready for some change? Listen for the applause. Yeah. Guess what? I'm here to make that change happen. Here's how. Yep. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. Yeah. I don't need to know that you've got a 28-point plan, which, by the way, is far too many. I don't care if you've got a 21-point plan. By the way, that's far too many. I don't care if you have a 16-point plan. Again, far too many. I don't care. I don't care what your 16-point plan is. And I'm not trying to be rude, folks. I'm not. This is constructive criticism again. If you're one of the candidates and you're listening to me, no one cares that you have a 21-point plan.
SPEAKER 05 :
No, they can't follow that.
SPEAKER 15 :
No. In fact, you need a three-point plan. I've got a three-point plan to make Colorado better again. Here's what I'm going to do. Boom, boom, boom.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right. It's got to be memorable. It's got to be easy. It's got to be memorable. You've got to grab them right out of the gate.
SPEAKER 15 :
By the way, the number one thing I'm going to do, which I know I can't do alone as governor, but I'm going to do my very best and push as hard as I can. I want a property tax cap. That's the first thing I want to do for all of you as Coloradans. Because that resonates with everybody. Because everybody knows their property taxes are too high. You can sell that one on any side of the aisle, by the way. Everybody knows they're too high. I don't care who you are. They're all high. And then, of course, you dovetail into some other things you can do. But come up with a three-point plan as to how I'm going to fix Colorado. That's one of the things you do. Transportation, by the way, has to be one of those as well.
SPEAKER 05 :
Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER 15 :
So, point being, did I hear anybody do that? No.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, what did you hear? I mean, how'd they do? Did anybody jump out at you?
SPEAKER 15 :
No, most of them were really, it was more about, you know, what's Polis done in the intro. You know, I'm sure they got into more details. I didn't watch the whole thing. I watched some intros. I watched some exits. I didn't watch most of the inner, and maybe some would say, well, if you watch more of the middle, you'd know. But here's my point why I only watched the beginning. If you didn't capture me in the beginning, I'm done anyways. Right? Yeah. That's how this works, folks. This is how politics works. If in your opening statement you didn't capture my heart and where I want to go with your campaign, I don't care really what else you say after that because I'm probably not there anyway.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, John, if you don't get them in the first 30 seconds, they're not going to listen to your 10-point plan.
SPEAKER 15 :
Or your 30-point plan or whatever it is.
SPEAKER 05 :
That's the first law of sales. I mean, your first 15, 30 seconds, really all you've got is 15 seconds to grab their attention.
SPEAKER 15 :
You've got to grab them. That's why I said if I were to come out, the first thing I'd say is, and I would yell it, are you guys all ready for some change? Yeah. There's my intro. And then you move into everything else after that. But what I heard mostly, the theme was, for most of the people that were on stage was, this is how bad things are. These are the things that I have done in business. Here's what I've accomplished. Again, I get that you've accomplished some things. I understand that. That's okay. But that shouldn't be in your intro. You can talk about your accomplishments as a business owner or whatever you've done later. But in your opening speech, again, no one cares. No.
SPEAKER 05 :
And I'm not trying to be rude, Andy, but no one cares. John, we have to keep in mind that anybody running for governor against the Democrat. is going to be running uphill, not just because it's a blue state, but more importantly, because in the last election, the Democrat won by 19, 20 points. And here's what I mean. That means roughly 60% of those who are reliable voters have already committed to the D they want to be right. And so whoever we put up there is going to have to actually convince them you were wrong. Okay. And make them feel good about it. And the, The only way if you come out, if our Kennedy comes out and just bashes the Democrats, you know, that's not going to do it. You got to come on, do what you're saying and say, here's what I'm going to do for you. OK, you know, Colorado is not serving you. OK, it's not Colorado. The Colorado leadership right now is serving their activists. At your expense. You want more lanes for where you drive. You want your property taxes capped. They went through the roof. They broke your budget. You don't want that anymore. Guess what? We lead the country in car thefts. You want that stopped. Okay? You want the homeless off the streets and cared for. Not on the streets and ruining businesses. Right. Okay? Right. They're not serving you. They're not serving you on the streets in front of businesses. They're not serving you with the roads that they're supposed to be keeping fixed and giving you more lanes, real lanes for cars to drive on. Not another bike lane. Right. Okay? Right. They're supposed to be managing your money better, not jacking up your property taxes, then lowering them a little and telling you, look what a favor we did for you.
SPEAKER 13 :
Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER 05 :
like Polis did, okay? Polis allowed the property taxes to go up, what, 60%, 70%, and then cut it back 10% and tell you that he's doing you a favor. It's ridiculous. Bottom line, your Colorado government has not been serving you, the customer, and I'm not talking to you Republicans. I'm talking to all of you Coloradoans. It's not serving you well, okay?
SPEAKER 15 :
You're right.
SPEAKER 05 :
The schools have more money than ever and fewer students. Why are they not serving your students better?
SPEAKER 15 :
Great point. Great point.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah. So that's what you need to be doing is saying, I am going to go out and tell all Coloradoans that we are going to put you first again because you haven't been put first. You know who's come first? The activists who put them in office. Yep. Yep. They're catering to every one of their activist things. Hey, I got news for you. I'm, you know, I'm a Republican. I got activists who back me up, too. They're not going to run your life either. So your lives should not be run by right-wing activists or left-wing activists. Your lives should be served.
SPEAKER 15 :
There you go. And again, for all of you that are candidates, again, and I get it, you were probably preaching, quote-unquote, to the choir, but you weren't. Because that whole event was put out on YouTube where a lot of people that couldn't attend will go watch it, whether you're on the right, the left, the middle. That was a public-type meeting whereby it was going to be broadcast on down the road, meaning you had a real grand opportunity to talk to people that you might not have even talked to at that event, meaning I wouldn't have talked to my supporters. I would have been talking to those people that I've never seen in my life, meaning I Sorry for some of you that said this. No one cares you're a career politician. In fact, just me personally, that's a strike against you because I don't like people that that's all they've ever done has been in politics. I want fresh blood. That doesn't necessarily help you to tell everybody you've been in politics your whole life.
SPEAKER 05 :
No. Let's say I was one. I would say, first of all, I want to apologize for something. I am a career politician. That would get a laugh. And say – Folks, that doesn't mean that I'm like every career politician. I've been fighting for you. Here's how. But you would lead in with that because let me tell you something, John, you are right. That's actually a strike against you. In most cases, it is. So use it.
SPEAKER 15 :
Use it to your advantage or pivot off of that. At least get it well known that you're there and you're going to go do something else instead. I mean— Anyhow, I'm not being critical. This is just, you know, this is instructive criticism is probably the best way to say this. For all of you that we're running, some of you may be listening, some of you may not. Some of you will be able to share this with somebody maybe that is. These are the things that you do to try to get more voters on your side when it's all said and done. I get it. It's early. But we live in a day and age. whereby you have very little chance to get people on your team and start moving that ball forward. And again, I know there's a lot of time between now and the election, but every opportunity you have to be in front of that camera and say something knowing it's going to get recorded and it'll be put out on social media, YouTube, whatever, at the end of the day, you've got to utilize that to the best of your ability.
SPEAKER 05 :
Exactly. But can I tell you what's the biggest problem?
SPEAKER 15 :
Go ahead.
SPEAKER 05 :
The Republican base. Because the Republican base, right now that they are trying to court the Republican base so they can become the candidate, correct?
SPEAKER 15 :
Probably, because they know if they don't get past that, they may not be on there at all.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right.
SPEAKER 15 :
Without petitioning.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, the problem is this. Most people in the Republican base decide who they want as a candidate based on who agrees with me the most.
SPEAKER 15 :
Meaning all of your speeches probably aren't going to make any difference.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well.
SPEAKER 15 :
Am I right?
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, first of all, you are right. But secondly, what I mean is this. In Colorado, the number one thing that you should be looking for as a Republican voter, okay, so here they are. They're right in front of you, all these candidates. You should be looking at them and saying, who can sell beyond the base?
SPEAKER 15 :
If this person can't sell beyond the base— That's what I look at. I don't look at who do I like. I look at who is that person that I need to vote for us, who are they going to like?
SPEAKER 05 :
Right. And so the very first thing I would be looking at with these candidates is I'd listen to their messaging. I would listen to how they put things, how they put their topics, how they address them. I would listen to, do they sell well? beyond the base? Can they sell beyond the base? Because if they can't do that, John, I don't care. But that's the problem is, what I just described, you and I agree on that. And we talk about it all the time, right? The vast majority of Republican voters don't look at it that way. They choose candidates solely on who agrees with me the most.
SPEAKER 15 :
And another example, and this, again, not being critical, just showing you where I wouldn't have gone. So Greg Lopez, who I like, I've interviewed Greg in the past. He's always running good campaigns, good, solid campaigns. But one of the first things that he talked about in his opening speech, which he's not wrong about, But this is not how I would have let off is talking about how much of a struggle it is in Colorado when you're a small business owner, which, by the way, I am one. And I can relate to that. And I fully understand that.
SPEAKER 05 :
OK.
SPEAKER 15 :
But unfortunately, Greg, most aren't. Most aren't small business owners. And I hate to say it this way. I'm not sure most people care that the small business owner struggles. They don't. I'm sorry to say that, but I care because I am one. But frankly, most don't because they aren't.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay, John.
SPEAKER 15 :
Does that make sense?
SPEAKER 05 :
Yes. Before we go to break really quick.
SPEAKER 15 :
No, we got time. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 05 :
We're fine. Let's compare that to everything you and I have been saying before now. Okay. How many people own cars and drive on roads versus how many people are small business owners?
SPEAKER 15 :
Oh, geez, Andy. Nine to one.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah. Oh, okay. How many people have kids in schools that are being mismanaged versus small business owners?
SPEAKER 15 :
It's, again, nine to one.
SPEAKER 05 :
Oh, okay. You see where I'm going with this? I know. Okay. How many people pay property taxes and have had them go up versus small business owners?
SPEAKER 15 :
A hundred to one.
SPEAKER 05 :
Oh, okay. You see where I'm going with this? The market is out there. I love Greg, by the way. Greg is a great guy. Great guy.
SPEAKER 15 :
He would make an awesome governor. Andy, they were all great people. One thing I did agree with that one person did say was, you know what? As I look at all these people that are here with me, any one of these would make a better governor than the one we have right now. Okay, I get it. Very true. I wouldn't have probably started off saying that, but he is exactly right in what he said. He wasn't wrong.
SPEAKER 05 :
Actually, that's not a bad lead-in. I've seen candidates do that before. It's very ingratiating with the group.
SPEAKER 15 :
And they were right, by the way.
SPEAKER 05 :
And then you go off and say, now here's why I'd like to be the one representing you. And you've already gotten everybody, you've gotten their guard down.
SPEAKER 15 :
I get it.
SPEAKER 05 :
And then you can sell yourself.
SPEAKER 15 :
I get it.
SPEAKER 05 :
But Greg right away went to an issue. He immediately narrowed his market. And he's right. He's not wrong. He's totally right.
SPEAKER 15 :
He's not wrong in what he's saying, but you're reaching a very small market when you go that way.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, when we come back, can we look at some of the names?
SPEAKER 15 :
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SPEAKER 05 :
And welcome back to Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Okay, John, now we're going to look at some of the names here really quick, but once again, For the voters, please, oh please, don't look for your purity test. Okay, in other words, which one agrees with me the most? That's my candidate.
SPEAKER 15 :
That's the worst thing you could ever do.
SPEAKER 05 :
Worst way to pick a candidate ever. And by the way, it totally differs. And it goes both ways. There will be people, the conservatives, who will all want Scott Bottoms. I understand that. But you'll have then the liberals, right? I know the pro-choice on abortion candidates, Republicans, okay, the pro-choice Republicans, and they'll want the more easy on abortion candidates. Right, candidate and so forth. They're just as purist as the ones on the extreme right.
SPEAKER 15 :
Right.
SPEAKER 05 :
Everybody is their own purist. And I want people to understand, folks, you have to start understanding something. We are just over 20% of the electorate here in Colorado. If you aren't looking for somebody who can sell beyond the base, then you're not looking for someone who can win. All right. Give me some of these names and tell me what you think.
SPEAKER 15 :
Let's do this. Let me start with Mark Baisley. I've interviewed him. Mark did well. Mark speaks very well. He talked about some of the programs that he's been involved in and different things that he's able to bring to the table and the leadership abilities and so on. And I like Mark. Mark did well as far as that goes. Scott Bottas was the second one that I think did very well along those lines as well as far as what was said. I will tell you this, and Mark and Scott, if you're both listening, Nothing either one of you said. If I was just a regular independent voter that I didn't know exactly who I was going to vote for, did either one of you say something that would have me vote for you? No.
SPEAKER 05 :
Were they basically trying to just reach the base?
SPEAKER 15 :
Basically.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay. See, once again, maybe that's smart, but for me, I'm looking for somebody who can reach beyond the base.
SPEAKER 15 :
I don't think it's – if you're in a tight setting where nothing's being televised and you're not having it recorded to go out to the internet and so on, sure, talk to your base. That wasn't that setting.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 15 :
Because it's getting recorded. It's going to go out on YouTube. It's going to be on Facebook. It's going to be other places people are seeing. Even if it's just the base in attendance, they're not the only ones viewing it, Andy, is my point.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right, right.
SPEAKER 15 :
Does that make sense? Yeah. And I don't think some of these folks thought through that. Well, I can tell you by the answers they didn't think through that.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay, next. Barb Kirkmeyer.
SPEAKER 15 :
She was the one that basically said, I'm a career politician. She didn't say it that way, but... It came out that way because of how long she's been doing this and how long she's been doing it.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, that doesn't sell to anybody in the base or out of it.
SPEAKER 15 :
I've done this. I've done that. I brought you this. I brought you that.
SPEAKER 05 :
No, no, no. Don't just reel off your resume.
SPEAKER 15 :
And, Barb, if you're listening, please, please hear me when I say this. I don't care what I did throughout my career. I want to know what did you do for everyone else.
SPEAKER 05 :
And by the way, John.
SPEAKER 15 :
Does that make sense, Andy? Totally. In other words, I don't want to hear the word I. Right. If anything, you say, we did this, and with your support, we did that, and we introduced this, and we accomplished that.
SPEAKER 05 :
You don't say I. Our last three candidates for governor all did that. Don't say I, folks. They all reeled off their resume the entire campaign. Take it out of your vocabulary. Yeah. And here's something that people don't seem to understand. They're still stuck in the past. They're thinking 20 years ago. Folks.
SPEAKER 15 :
We're way past that.
SPEAKER 05 :
America doesn't elect governors anymore. It elects activists.
SPEAKER 15 :
Correct.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay. Barack Obama had never governed anything. He was an activist. Donald Trump had never governed anything. He's an activist. Right. Okay. Right now, it hasn't been since Bush and Clinton and those guys that we elected people who had actually governed. Nowadays, people don't want to hear your resume of how long you've been doing this and how well you can do it. It is the last thing they want to hear. It's a terrible idea.
SPEAKER 15 :
That was another example of something that I would have done differently. I talked about Greg a little bit earlier. The sheriff, Jason Mikesell, I think he did very well. He's a strong communicator. Also, though, tended to beat up a little bit too much on what we have as current administration. Again, the reality is... That administration's leaving no matter what. We can complain all about what they've done in the direction that we've taken us, but the reality is he's not running. Your opponent's probably going to be Michael Bennett. What's Michael done, by the way, not what Polis has done. If you're going to go beat somebody up on the other side, it's not Polis. He's leaving.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, but you can, to a degree, tie Bennett to Polis. You have to. What I mean is this. Let's say you are Jason Mikesell, and you come out as the law and order guy, and you say, here's the bottom line, folks. You're not safe. Your kids aren't safe in school. You're not safe on the street. You're certainly not safe if you go downtown in Denver after a Bronco game to get some dinner. You're not safe. And let me tell you something. You're not safe because of Jared Polis, and Michael Bennett is going to be exactly like him, and you know that.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, it's just POLIS 2.0. If you want to say something like that, you could do that.
SPEAKER 05 :
POLIS 2.0 is not going to make you safe.
SPEAKER 15 :
Correct.
SPEAKER 05 :
So you could go down that path. If POLIS 1.0 didn't make you safe, why would POLIS 2.0? Now, here's what I'm going to do to make you safe. Right.
SPEAKER 15 :
I don't have Alex's last name. Maybe I can grab it really quick.
SPEAKER 05 :
From Pueblo.
SPEAKER 15 :
Alex Magula. I think I'm saying that right. Maguda. Sorry, Maguda. By the way, great guy. Great delivery. Had no issues along those lines. And I don't disagree with him, but he's going to run on eliminating property tax. I wish that were the case. I wish you could eliminate mine, by the way. Personally. I'm all for it. Yeah, personally, I'm all for it, but that's not going to get you elected. John, this isn't Florida.
SPEAKER 05 :
We don't have the Florida electorate. Ron DeSantis can run on that. Well, he can talk about that because of Florida. He has transformed Florida into a deep red state.
SPEAKER 15 :
Robert Moore, he's a guy that comes out of the military, has a military background, went to West Point, was very involved with Compact when it first started, helped take it to the level that it was when it finally got bought by HP. Great guy, by the way, spoke very well. And again, I mean, I love your background, but what do you, and this is your intro, what are you doing for me?
SPEAKER 05 :
Now, a guy like him, he's a very impressive guy, reeling off his resume, that will get him respect, but it won't get him votes.
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Yep.
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All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Okay, we're trying to get our guests, but before we do that, I've got a text message that came in today, which I thought would fit in perfectly with even our last topic we were talking about. In fact, if we do get our guests, we're going to put him off for a segment because this fits in perfectly with what we were talking about. So let me read you the text message. Hi, John. Wanted to get you and Andy's opinion or take on a subgroup on the right involving younger, mostly single men who seem to be swinging to a more sexist, chauvinistic worldview. I'm a mom in my mid-30s, and I was recently trying to give some dating advice to a family friend who is a single male in his 30s, but he seemed to want to debate with me rather than take any advice. He comes across as desperate to find a partner and often references Jordan Peterson and and his focus on marriage and family, which, by the way, Jordan's very solid in these areas. These are my words, not hers. But our friend is taking it to an extreme, which, by the way, everything can be, and that's the wrong way to do it. He texted me the following, quote, If someone ends up alone without anyone caring for them, then that inherently defines someone as worthless, useless, and just a waste of space. To end up alone means you mattered to no one. He describes potential dates as not spring chickens anymore, and it sounds like his stance is that women are worthless unless they procreate. I am grieved that our society doesn't value the nuclear family, and I believe marriage and children are blessings from God. By the way, Andy and I do as well. But it was distressing to see our friends swing to such a radical worldview. I'd love to hear your and Andy's thoughts on this. Thank you so much. By the way, dovetailed perfectly into what we were just talking about in that last hour, because first of all, I can tell you straight up, and I can speak for Andy in this one, we don't look at things the way this young man is looking at things at all. He is looking at things completely backwards. Yeah.
SPEAKER 08 :
First of all, you don't... Look, let me say a couple things. First of all, his way of looking at, you know, I'm not complete unless I have somebody in my life. If I don't have somebody in my life, then I am worthless. I'm not worth anything to anyone. That can be both men and women feel that way. That part is equal. And I think that they're both wrong. I've always told young people when they talk about, you know, they're going to date and whatever, I say, great, wonderful. Well, how do I know if she's the one? Don't worry about that.
SPEAKER 14 :
You'll figure that out as time goes by.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah. Worry about this. Are you the one? And they're like, what do you mean? I say, look, if you can't find fulfillment in yourself, just you and God. then you are going to look to that person to be your joy supplier. You're going to look to that person to be your happiness, your purpose supplier. Guess what? That's not their job. God didn't make them to be your purpose supplier.
SPEAKER 14 :
Nope, they did not.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay. And if I were to put my wife under that kind of strain to where every day she would have to provide my purpose, my joy and all this and complete me and make me feel needed. I mean, that's ridiculous. What she needs, my wife needs somebody who is complete on their own and she is complete on her own.
SPEAKER 14 :
And by the way, she is compliment one another. And then we compliment, which is what our last guest was really talking about. That's exactly down the path that she was headed.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right. What he was describing was the foundation of codependency. In other words, neither of us is complete, therefore we have to complete each other. No, no, no, no, no. Both of you be complete on your own. That way you don't put the other person under the pressure of completing you. No human should have to do that.
SPEAKER 14 :
Only God. If you're looking at life that way, you are always, Andy, going to be disappointed. Yes. Because that person will never be able to meet the expectations you have for them. Right.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right, and you're not letting them be something that they've been ever since Adam and Eve, and that's a sinner.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay, they're going to have their down days is what I'm saying.
SPEAKER 07 :
And so are you, by the way.
SPEAKER 08 :
And so are you. Okay, you're going to have your down days where it's going to be a lot harder for her to complete you. You know, I remember Jerry Maguire, you know, you complete me. Yeah. That was cute, and it was a nice moment. Hey, it's a good movie.
SPEAKER 07 :
Why not?
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah. But you really don't want that. Not only are you going to have your down days when you're putting too much pressure on her to complete too much. Your glass is way too empty that day. You're asking too much of her to pour into it. But also, she's going to have her down days when she's going to let you down and not... You know, and honey, I made this speech. Why didn't you respond to it as well as I did? I really needed this, you know, because I'm nervous, whatever. Right. Because we guys are purpose driven and you've got to make me feel good in my purpose. OK. And I got to make her feel good in her presence. Look, guys, I do hope that we are always very complimentary to our spouses. Corey and I are. but don't need it. You should only be looking to one source for your value, and that is God.
SPEAKER 14 :
Very true. Very true. And I talked a little bit about this yesterday in regards to, you know, death and the afterlife and things along those lines. It's partially why, you know, a lot of people talking about they could feel Demarius Thomas in the stadium on Sunday. Yeah, no, you didn't. That's just your figment of your imagination, because let me tell you what, I can guarantee you he wasn't there.
SPEAKER 06 :
Right.
SPEAKER 14 :
Not a snowball's chance. Was not there. Anybody saying that, you are a, I'm sorry, you might be thinking that, you might be feeling a certain way, and maybe that's a feel-good measure on your part, but I can tell you 1,000% he wasn't there. His spirit wasn't there. Anybody that says that's a knucklehead.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 14 :
I'm sorry, because it doesn't happen that way. It doesn't work that way. And partially, and this goes to what Andy's saying, I believe partially that it doesn't work that way because God wants to be the only person meeting your needs, not some dead person.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 14 :
Meaning those family members that have even gone on, don't live your life for them, live your life for God, because those family members don't know what you're doing anyways.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, John.
SPEAKER 14 :
Nor do they care.
SPEAKER 08 :
One day you're going to die, do you want your son still living for the memory of John Rush?
SPEAKER 14 :
No, I want him living for him, not me.
SPEAKER 08 :
There you go. You know, what does she say here really quick here, going back to the text? Mostly single men who seem to be swinging to a more sexist, chauvinist worldview. I'm not totally sure what that means.
SPEAKER 14 :
I know what she means by that. I absolutely know what she means by that.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, go ahead.
SPEAKER 14 :
Because we're seeing this even in—and I wasn't going to talk about this, but this is a great example. There was a— A recently down in Texas, there was a string of text messages. Don't know if all of them are true or not. None of it's been proven whether they were or won't. But there were some leaders of the young Republican Party down in Texas where there was a lot of of things that were going back and forth in text messages that, quite frankly, shouldn't have been shouldn't have been there. I mean, these guys were talking about very racist, sexist things.
SPEAKER 08 :
Oh, are you talking about that big?
SPEAKER 14 :
OK, yeah, go ahead. And a great example of where a lot of these young men are way off on the wrong track. And I don't know how they've gotten on that track because it's not what we as a party even believe in at all. No, not at all. Trump believes in. So I don't know where these guys are going, but she is correct. A lot of these younger men especially are moving in that direction. And I don't have an answer as to why. I don't know. Yeah, I don't understand it either. I don't get that part, Andy. I don't know why they've moved that way. But she's right. Somehow.
SPEAKER 08 :
Now, with a couple of them, I think they were kidding. Definitely kidding. But there were comments in that thread that were just horrible.
SPEAKER 14 :
And there's comments in there that even if you're kidding, you don't say. Right. Let's just say this. You don't kid that way. Right. Let me say it that way. I wouldn't. My rules are that's not something we kid about.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, I really like what Winsome Sears said in the Virginia race. And you know what's going on in Virginia with the AG race where the Democrat said some horrible things. He wanted people killed and kids to be killed and all this terrible stuff. And, you know, and Winsome Sears has been asking her opponent, hey, will you please call on this guy to step out of the race? Okay. Well, they pressed her about this text thread. And they said, oh, yeah, well, what do you think of that? And she was wonderful. She said, oh, that's easy. They should all step down. Now your turn.
SPEAKER 14 :
Mm-hmm. What do you think of this? Yeah, I can't disagree with that at all.
SPEAKER 08 :
I agree.
SPEAKER 1 :
100%.
SPEAKER 14 :
Back to this texter. Okay. And I think this is important. Those of you that are listening where you've got influence upon young men, we do here on this show. We've got a lot of young men because I get text messages from them that actually text into the program and so on. And I will tell you that, no, that is the wrong approach. And a lot of what we talked about in that last segment in the last hour with our guest is accurate. You know, we are to complement one another. You know, God took—this is why I've always explained it. God took Eve out of a rib, not out of the brain so that she could be equal to us, not out of the foot so that we could tromp over her, but out of the rib so she could be beside us and we could be partners in life. Right. That's the meaning there.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 14 :
That simple.
SPEAKER 08 :
Look, I don't need my wife. I don't need anyone but Jesus. Okay, that's the way it is. And the moment I need her, I put pressure on her to be something.
SPEAKER 14 :
That she doesn't need.
SPEAKER 08 :
No, she doesn't need that kind of pressure. She doesn't need to wake up every day making, you know, having to be my value provider.
SPEAKER 14 :
Absolutely, Andy. Absolutely.
SPEAKER 08 :
You know, and talking about, you know, young people, single men who seem to be sexist, chauvinist, I think what it really is is they're selfish.
SPEAKER 14 :
They want their personal needs met first. Met first. Yep. Absolutely. Well, these are also individuals, and this goes both ways. It's not just men. I've seen the same thing with women. They're always looking for Mr. Right or Mrs. Right. In fact, some of them even have a checklist of things that that person has to check off. Oh, I love the checklist. Otherwise, they're not worthy of even dating them. Oh, man, those are people that end up single their whole life because nobody meets those checklists.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, or when they do... Guess what? They're not that great. And then you meet a girl who doesn't even meet half the things in your checklist. And guess what? She's the best thing you've ever met.
SPEAKER 14 :
Great point. All right. Leave it at that, Andy. And again, those of you listening, that's a deep subject. We can go into that maybe a little bit later as we go through, you know, a series of things. So this is more than you can talk about even in one particular setting. But that was a great text message. Thank you, by the way. I enjoy those. Those are especially dear to me because I think those are things that Andy and I, as time goes by, can get into more depth. because this is something that we can't just mention one time. It has to be mentioned over and over again for these young people, especially to understand how this works, which we will continue to do. Flesh Law coming up next. Civil, criminal, you name it. Kevin is there for you. 303-806-8886.
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SPEAKER 04 :
Putting reason into your afternoon drive. This is John Rush.
SPEAKER 14 :
All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Okay, something I was going to talk about last hour. We just didn't get to it. But remember when all of the UFOs were, you know, a big deal and everybody was trying to figure out, you know, what was the source of and, you know, all the conspiracy started in as to, you know, what they were and what was going on and so on and so forth. I didn't talk about it a lot here on air just because, frankly, I just figured at some point in time we'd figure it out and I wasn't too worried about it and we figured it out.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 14 :
It is a company that was actually doing some drone testing and so on. That's really all it ended up being when it was all said and done. Now, why we didn't know that more at the time and didn't say it then, that I don't know. But that's the answer.
SPEAKER 08 :
That was a lot of sightings?
SPEAKER 14 :
Yes. There was just a lot of testing of drones at that time. Cool. You know, why not? So speaking at the Army's UAS and Launched Effect System at Fort Rucker, Alabama in August, the unnamed company allegedly revealed during a panel that their manned aerial craft was to blame for the scare across New Jersey skies. So.
SPEAKER 08 :
You mean unmanned aerial craft? Both.
SPEAKER 14 :
They were both. They were manned and unmanned. And, again, they weren't UFOs. It wasn't anything along those lines. These were most likely, my gut feeling would be, probably very high-tech drones that were being tested at that time.
SPEAKER 08 :
So we have Russell Crowe to blame.
SPEAKER 14 :
Probably.
SPEAKER 08 :
For those who don't know, he did a great movie about the drones.
SPEAKER 14 :
20-foot aerial drones. These things were huge. These weren't little drones, by the way. These were fair-sized drones. So these were, and I think I even said at the time that most likely, I believe I go back and listen to my recordings, I think I at one point in time said, I wouldn't be surprised if this wasn't some sort of military testing when it's all said and done. Why government won't say that and come out, that I have no answers to.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, I can. What government is stupid enough to tell everybody everything they've got?
SPEAKER 14 :
What they're doing? Well, that's a good point, Andy.
SPEAKER 08 :
Here's all our latest tech for our enemies to study. Here you go.
SPEAKER 14 :
Good point. Good point. No, that's probably why. You're exactly right. And it wasn't a UFO. Everybody back then were talking about these things being UFOs. No, they were not UFOs.
SPEAKER 08 :
Oh, sorry, Tucker.
SPEAKER 1 :
Oh, geez.
SPEAKER 14 :
I'm sorry.
SPEAKER 08 :
It was such a big thing for him.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, and this is the answer. Again, as we've learned, here's the answer. And I get it. There's probably going to be somebody out there listening that will text me and say, you believe everything that's printed and said? No, this one just makes sense. It does. I mean, this is the best answer that I've heard yet, so it makes sense. And no, I don't believe in UFOs.
SPEAKER 07 :
No.
SPEAKER 14 :
And I don't believe in aliens.
SPEAKER 08 :
No.
SPEAKER 14 :
And I think Tucker's a weirdo.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 14 :
And he's too focused on that.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, maybe I believe in aliens. I mean, there's Tucker.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, and Candice and AOC.
SPEAKER 08 :
I know they've gone off the deep end.
SPEAKER 14 :
You notice I put them all in the same classification?
SPEAKER 08 :
I know that. I know. Well, I know they've gone off on the deep end of some things, but, you know, Tucker is a very likable guy.
SPEAKER 14 :
So is Candice, but they've gone off the deep end.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, she's gotten intense.
SPEAKER 14 :
They jumped the shark. Yeah, they have. They just have. And Candice especially, she has really jumped the shark. I mean, she is out there on a level that's like, Candice, you're doing this for clicks only. It's very apparent why you're in this.
SPEAKER 08 :
See, what I don't understand is this, John, and we've talked about this before. If aliens came here from another planet, okay, it would obviously be a planet a very, very long ways away, correct?
SPEAKER 14 :
You think it has to be. I think we've determined there's nothing nearby.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right, which means that the technology they would have to come this entire, to traverse this entire distance and come here would be unbelievably beyond our understanding, correct?
SPEAKER 1 :
Correct.
SPEAKER 08 :
So why would we ever catch them?
SPEAKER 14 :
We wouldn't.
SPEAKER 08 :
I mean, our ability to read the skies and, you know, take pictures and some farmer with his cows out in Arizona, you know, catching a shot of this thing in the sky. I mean, come on. They would not be detectable to our surveillance. They're so far above us. And if they were, then why would they? What I mean is this. Why would they ever let themselves be seen at all? And notice that they are... That's a great point. And finally, if they keep coming here to be seen, to be seen, to be seen, to be seen, how come they never, ever want to meet us?
SPEAKER 06 :
That's a great point, too.
SPEAKER 08 :
And actually intervene in any way, shape, or form in life on Earth, because they don't. Okay? So obviously, if they've been doing this all this time... Why are they doing it? Why are they coming all this way to poke around, make sure that they are seen by technology that is a million miles beneath theirs, but let us see them anyway for no reason, and then never meet us and never intervene in world affairs in any way, shape, or form?
SPEAKER 14 :
Great point. It goes back to my whole moon landing thing. Well, it's like the explanation of the moon landing on my end, Andy. It's just common sense would say they wouldn't.
SPEAKER 03 :
They wouldn't.
SPEAKER 14 :
I mean, that's the answer. They wouldn't. There's no reason to.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 14 :
Why would you?
SPEAKER 08 :
I mean, if you went to another planet and you let, let's face it, compared to us, their technology would be about like amoebas.
SPEAKER 14 :
You mean if we went to Planet of the Apes?
SPEAKER 08 :
Sure. Sure. And you let yourself be seen by their incredibly low-level surveillance, which you could easily dodge. But you let yourself be seen by it anyway. Wouldn't you ever say hi? Hello? And then maybe even meet them, intervene. Hey, I got some good ideas for you. Something. I mean, we talked about this before, but all these people who get angry at the idea of a biblical God who's too... Who doesn't intervene enough in human affairs? How could he let people starve in India, right? Right, right, right. Well, how could the aliens? If they could come here from a planet a zillion miles away, they could probably solve world hunger. They could probably solve anything.
SPEAKER 14 :
But they don't.
SPEAKER 08 :
They don't solve it. But everybody blames God, but nobody blames the aliens that they believe in.
SPEAKER 14 :
Good point, Andy. Great point. That's why I don't believe in aliens.
SPEAKER 08 :
I don't either.
SPEAKER 14 :
Because they don't exist. I'm just not one of those people. You're not going to convince me otherwise because I'm with Andy on this one. If they really did exist, you'd know. They don't.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 14 :
And I don't care what program you watch. I don't care what guy from the military said what. I don't care what dream he had or this, that or the other. I mean, you know, people talk about all sorts of weird things. And by the way, some people, I think, probably believe themselves when it comes to some of this stuff. But do I think that really happened? Yeah, no, I don't.
SPEAKER 08 :
No.
SPEAKER 14 :
I'm sorry.
SPEAKER 08 :
I still love X-Files.
SPEAKER 14 :
But no, I love I love science fiction all day long, but doesn't mean I believe any of it. I mean, I got a wild imagination. I can think all kinds of stuff, Andy. But at the end of the day, it ain't real. Ain't gonna happen.
SPEAKER 08 :
Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy used to make fun of this, and they would say some aliens are just rich kids who come to Earth and just make sure that they're seen by farmers so they can taunt them.
SPEAKER 14 :
And really quick, for some of you, I wasn't going to go here, but I might as well. I've seen some posts lately about how we live in an alternate reality and planet Earth is ready to do X, Y, Z, and this, that, and the other, and I just think to myself, A, why do I read this? But B, you're a wackadoodle. Yeah. You are off your rocker to believe some of this nonsense. But people do, Andy. I know. And by the way, they'll do that and in the same breath talk about how much they love the conservative side and politics and Trump this, that, and the other. And I'm just thinking, please don't say that.
SPEAKER 08 :
I know.
SPEAKER 14 :
Please don't go down that path because now you make us all look like a bunch of weirdos.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, our side is so overrun with conspiracy nuts right now.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, why is that, by the way?
SPEAKER 08 :
I don't know. I think, oh, bottom line, I think it's because we had so many conspiracies come true. where the left was doing things to us, and we suspected it.
SPEAKER 14 :
Like Russian collusion. But those aren't really conspiracies at that point. I mean, those are things that factually could be proved.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, yeah, I know. But what I mean is, at one point, everybody thought it was a grand conspiracy of the right that some deep state was engineering the Trump-Russia collusion narrative. Now we find out it was all true. See what I mean? And so a few of these conspiracies come true, and now they think everything is.
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SPEAKER 14 :
And we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Myself, Andy Pate. Frank now joining us from Chinese Americans for the Constitution. Frank, welcome. How are you?
SPEAKER 16 :
Hey, good. How are you, John?
SPEAKER 14 :
I'm very good. I appreciate you joining us. And this is a big topic right now because we hear all sorts of things in the news. We're seeing different things along these lines. And that is the California congressional redistricting. We've seen some things happen down in Texas. California now thinks that they're going to get the one up when it's all said and done. I don't think, Frank, it really ends well because this could be done across the country in even red areas that become more red. What are your thoughts?
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, For every state, they have their own jurisdiction to consider if they want to redistrict or not. For California, it's a different story because California voters have already voted back in 2008 and 2011 that we voters do not trust the politicians to draw the maps. Instead, an independent citizen redistricting commission should draw the map.
SPEAKER 14 :
Okay, so then what's all this talk of Governor Newsom talking about how he's going to spearhead a whole redistricting plan? What you're telling me is he doesn't have that authority.
SPEAKER 16 :
He doesn't. So that's why the California voters have to vote on Proposition 50 to... give so-called temporary authority to the politicians to redraw the map to, you know, quote, fight Trump, quote. So that's basically their selling.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, Frank, how's the polling looking on that? I mean, do you think that Prop 50 will succeed or be defeated?
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, currently there is not much polling in the public. The only polling was co-efficient that was done at the early October. It's like close, within the margin of error. And right now it's not a voting day, it's a voting month. So with the current voting ballots that's already returned, it's kind of low turnout right now.
SPEAKER 14 :
Okay. So in other words, there's a chance that that doesn't end up happening when it's all said and done is what you're saying. Because I guess ultimately, there's not enough polling to know, but voter turnout is low, meaning there is a chance that that ends up being a no.
SPEAKER 16 :
It is possible. It is possible.
SPEAKER 14 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, I would think the Democrats would be the more energized group in this off-year election there in California. Is this going to be voted on this November?
SPEAKER 16 :
Yes, this November. Based on the ballots has already returned.
SPEAKER 14 :
So they're already out. Yeah. Like Colorado, they've already got what they need. Right, right. Okay.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah. Actually, the Democrats have about the same percentage, I mean, same turnout rate as the Republicans. So the insuracism in both parties seems at the same level. And for the Democrats, obviously, Governor Newsom just tried to frame this election, special election, as a referendum to President Trump. So all his ad is about Fight Trump, fight Trump.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, bad Trump, bad man, bad man.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, try to get control of the Congressional, you know, the House control in 2026. It's completely partisan gerrymandering, and they have no shame hiding it.
SPEAKER 08 :
Frank, can I ask you a broader question here? Because, you know, you're a Chinese American, okay? And a lot of Chinese and their families fled communist regimes, obviously. So you fled communism. You've come to America. You love the Constitution. And you know what it's like to come from a nation, or at least your family does, a nation that doesn't have the Constitution. What's it like living in California with leadership that really doesn't value the American Constitution?
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah. So I have to correct you on one thing. Yeah. Even China has a constitution, quote, constitution. Well, yeah. However, they have no respect on the constitution. It's just a paper. And that's why, you know, I started this group to fight against Prop 50, because Governor Newsom basically is doing the same thing to the California Constitution. So they are like, hey, we don't like this portion of Constitution. Let's do a temporary change. And don't worry, don't worry. We will change it back. No, that's not the right thing to do.
SPEAKER 14 :
Okay. Now you're just making – I mean, not that it didn't make sense to begin with. This makes even more sense. Okay. Frank, talk to us about your organization, the Chinese Americans for the Constitution, and what you guys do, what's your mission, your goal, how do folks help?
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, this is just a short-term organization, and the only goal is to fight against Prop 50 and also try to let the Californian voters know that this is not the right way to amend the Constitution. And if they just put power grabbing over the Constitution, they will suffer greater consequences, no matter if they could fight Trump or not. It's not a good call.
SPEAKER 08 :
Do you find people that are really receptive to your message? I mean, I would think so because, look, Frank, you're right. If Newsom can get this set aside for now, they're just going to keep it set aside. You're totally right on this. That's right. Do a lot of Californians, are they listening to you?
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, it's encouraging when we are on the field because basically what we have done is we have delivered 60,000 door hangers to every single house and we have another 10,000 on the way. So when we are on the field, when we talk with some Republicans or far leftists, no doubt they will not change their minds. But for moderate Democrats, they are very concerned. They are very concerned, and they agree with us, and they believe that The Democrats in California, they already have too many congressional congressmen, comparing to the percentage of the voters. Oh, yeah. And it's a power grab, and they don't like it, even though they're Democrats.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, Frank, the bottom line is if anybody donates to you, they are donating to help stop redistricting in California, which is incredibly beneficial for all of us nationwide. So how can people help you?
SPEAKER 16 :
Oh, thank you. Thank you for the question. So our website is www.ca4constitution.org. CA can stand for Chinese Americans or California. 4constitution.org. And you can find the donation link. So that helps a lot. We have started the door hangers campaign. Two weeks before the ballots arrived on the voters' houses. And now we are hitting on the sign waving to complete the last two weeks. And we are only two weeks away to the election day.
SPEAKER 14 :
All right. And by the way, this is important for those of us even in Colorado. We're not in California. You know, we don't get to vote. But this could set. How do I want to say this, Frank and Andy? You would agree with me here. This could trigger other things going on throughout other states in the country. We want to try to stop this now. Right.
SPEAKER 16 :
Absolutely. We have to stop this now.
SPEAKER 14 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 08 :
In the immediate, it means five seats. Look, if it's defeated, the Democrats do not add five seats in California.
SPEAKER 14 :
Great point, Andy. Great point. That's right. Yep. Frank, I appreciate you taking time out of your day for us. Great cause. We'll do what we can to support you, sir.
SPEAKER 16 :
Thank you, thank you.
SPEAKER 14 :
You're very welcome. I appreciate it. And again, that is CA4Constitution.org. So California, CA4Constitution.org. I, Andy? I'm surprised. I didn't think it was that close, meaning what these guys are doing, they're having some sort of an effect. I really thought this thing was a slam dunk out there.
SPEAKER 08 :
Oh, no, no, no. Actually, the early polling that I saw in California was that it was almost 60-40. Wow. Did not like the idea of the redistricting.
SPEAKER 14 :
And changing of their constitution, right?
SPEAKER 08 :
Right. And changing of their constitution, even if it was going to add Democrat seats. And the reason is a lot of them were saying, well, we're not going to feel represented anymore because we're all being cloistered. into one area to where all the, uh, you would only have like just a couple Republican, uh, districts and that's it in the entire state of California and everybody else. Basically all the districts would be so uneven. There'd be no reason to vote.
SPEAKER 14 :
Okay. Okay. I didn't realize that. So this thing may not pass.
SPEAKER 08 :
It may not.
SPEAKER 14 :
How close will it be, do you think?
SPEAKER 08 :
Close. See, because, like I said, it was the early poll that I saw just on that question. It wasn't on this 50, but it was on the question, do you want the governor to have the power to redistrict? It was 60-40 against. However, I'm sure that's been getting closer.
SPEAKER 14 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 08 :
So, hey, if we could stop it, that'd be great.
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SPEAKER 08 :
And welcome back to Rush to Reason. Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. John, let's close with this. Purism kills the Republican Party. Yes, it does. And I'm going to give you a good example of that. In New York City, as you know, they're about to elect a full-fledged communist and a lunatic. As their mayor in Mamdani. Now, the other two candidates right now are Cuomo and Sliwa, the Republican Sliwa. Now, the polls show that if Curtis Sliwa were to drop out, that Mamdani and Cuomo would be almost in a dead heat. Okay. And that means that Cuomo could actually down the stretch possibly take this race. Cuomo's bad, but he's nowhere near as bad as Mamdani.
SPEAKER 14 :
Take him all day long over this guy.
SPEAKER 08 :
Exactly. Now, and Sliwa is staying in the race. And this is where I look at this. I'm just like, dude, get out. And you've got all these Republicans who are supporting Sliwa who are very upset that other Republicans are calling him to get out. I'm just like, guys, registration in New York is eight to one Democrat to Republican. Curtis Sliwa cannot win.
SPEAKER 07 :
No.
SPEAKER 08 :
He is not in the race. He can only, only succeed at doing one thing.
SPEAKER 07 :
Messing it up.
SPEAKER 08 :
Handing the city to Mamdani. Now, look, you've got to think strategically, folks. This idea that strategy is the opposite of principle is nuts. You don't advance any principles. With Como... You advance, say, five out of 100 principals. With Mamdani, it's zero. And in fact, it goes negative 10. Okay? Everything horrible imaginable is going to happen to that city with Mamdani as the mayor. I mean, it's going to be racist. It's going to be crime-ridden in ways that they've never seen before. It is going to be... communistic i mean the rich are going to flee and take their money with them it's going to be hard by the way though because their home values are going to plummet if he gets in because people know they're going to move out they're going to you know it's going to be hard to get out of there right but they're going to try look john do you see what i'm saying he's got to get out i do And, you know, and this is I get so angry because I've seen it so many times when you've got three or four candidates in a race. And if this one would just get out, this one who has no chance would just get out. And he's even been offered money to do it. And he says, no, I'm principled. You're not principled. You're making sure that the most unprincipled person is going to run the place.
SPEAKER 14 :
Talk to me. No, you're right. In fact, these are people, and I've said this before, these are typically people, not always, but generally speaking, I would venture to guess, and I don't know this particular individual, but I'm venture to guess he's never owned his own business. That'd be my guess.
SPEAKER 08 :
I don't know. I mean, he was the head of the, what is it, the Angels or whatever, who walk the streets and protect people in New York.
SPEAKER 14 :
Big deal. Still hasn't ran a business. And the reason why I say he hasn't run a business is because if you're successful in business... the first thing you learn at the end of the day is, number one, who's your market? Number two, sometimes you have to compromise things to actually be able to keep the business alive and sell to said market. Right. In other words, you might be so principled that you just know that, you know what? This product is far better than that product, and this is all I'm going to sell all day long while people coming in want the other product instead of the one that you want to sell them because you know it's a better product. And by the way, it might be. It might be the best product on the market. But if it doesn't sell... Does it matter, Andy?
SPEAKER 08 :
It does not. It does not matter.
SPEAKER 14 :
And that's my point where a lot of these politicians, people in our own party even, have never ran a successful business because if they had, they'd understand the principle I just said. And they don't. They don't. They are going to stick to their guns no matter what, period. It's almost like—and this is where I think they get into trouble.
SPEAKER 01 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 14 :
And this is where I think—I've been thinking about this a lot lately. I think this is where our side struggles so much. And bear with me. I hope I can explain this correctly. Because not everybody that's on the right is a Christian. Okay, just because you're a conservative and a Republican doesn't mean you're a Christian, but a lot are. Okay? In general, it kind of goes hand in hand. Because of our belief system, it sort of does fit together. Now, unfortunately, though, because of the gospel, and how we look at the gospel, and the fact that it can't be unwavering, and no, there's no compromise, and there is only one way to heaven, and that is through Christ and Christ alone. And I get all of that, Andy. And in that case, there is no compromise. There's not multiple ways to heaven. Right. There's not ten different ways. Well, we're not talking about heaven. We're talking about New York City. The problem, though, is... As Christian conservatives, they get that mindset. Right. Where this is the only way it can be, and I can't compromise my principles, quote unquote. And you hear it over and over and over again. And the problem is they can't, in their mind, separate the gospel from winning.
SPEAKER 08 :
Does that make sense? Yes. Remember our last Senate race? Who did we have running? Joe O'Day.
SPEAKER 14 :
Joe O'Day.
SPEAKER 08 :
OK, who Ron Hanks, Ron Hanks and took the purest vote away from O'Day.
SPEAKER 14 :
Correct. And we lost big time.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah. And by the way, O'Day, even with Ron Hanks taking away his voters away from O'Day, O'Day still came five points closer than Ganahl came in her race.
SPEAKER 14 :
Right. Meaning if you hadn't had that disruption with Hanks, you might have actually won if you'd gotten behind the guy. It would have been closer. Both sides made big mistakes. I said this at that time. So did Andy. Joe and his campaign made huge mistakes in doing what they did. The other side made huge mistakes in what they did. At the end of the day, it was an absolute disaster. My point, though, is I think, Andy, a lot of folks on the right. This guy included, probably. They feel like it gets convoluted. They get in their mind. They can't separate the gospel and the truism that's there. It has to be, by the way. And yes, there is no compromising there, and I understand that, but they let that run the rest of their life, and you can't.
SPEAKER 08 :
John, you're very right, because a lot of Christians make this mistake. That's right. This is huge in the church. And I heard people say Joe O'Day is no better than the Democrat. That is factually untrue.
SPEAKER 14 :
That was a false statement, big time.
SPEAKER 08 :
Joe O'Day on abortion is well to my left. He is not where I am.
SPEAKER 14 :
He is also well to the right of most of them.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right, because he didn't believe in tax funding for it. He didn't believe in late term. And, oh, by the way, in Colorado, that's the best you're going to get. Correct.
SPEAKER 14 :
So leave it alone and move forward.
SPEAKER 08 :
You are in a deep blue state. Are you crazy? And this Curtis Sliwa, they asked him about Como Mamdani. You know what he said? Two peas in a pod. No, they aren't, Curtis. They are different. Como is actually well to the right of Mamdani.
SPEAKER 14 :
You could actually reason with Como on certain things.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, you could reason with Como on some things.
SPEAKER 14 :
You're not going to reason with Mamdani. That guy's a hardcore Marxist.
SPEAKER 08 :
Mamdani is a Marxist Muslim.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yep.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay?
SPEAKER 14 :
Through and through.
SPEAKER 08 :
He is an enemy of everything that is American. That's exactly right. Everything.
SPEAKER 14 :
Como, while I don't agree with him, isn't.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right. Exactly. They are not the same.
SPEAKER 14 :
No, they are not, Andy.
SPEAKER 08 :
Look, if you can get, out of 20 major issues, if you can get four of them go your way instead of zero... Then you take the four. No, no, no. I vote for the 20 because I have to represent. I have to represent principle. If I don't represent principle, who am I?
SPEAKER 14 :
How am I going to answer to God for that, Andy?
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, how am I going to answer to God for that? Well, that's easy.
SPEAKER 14 :
You've heard that a hundred times, haven't you?
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 14 :
Or more.
SPEAKER 08 :
That's easy. You look at this and you say, when I cast a vote, I am casting one number out of affecting a majority out of millions. When in my personal life, every decision I make affects my life only. Okay. So in my personal life, yes, everything I do should completely reflect God. Okay. In my public life, guess what? Sometimes you got to sell a product that isn't entirely godly. You know what I'm saying? Well, yeah. You sell. Well, what if you work for a Toyota dealership? And guess what? Toyota does some things that are not godly with their corporation. I mean, you can't be 100%.
SPEAKER 14 :
No, because if you do, you're going to be 100% broke and lonely. Right. And you'll be irrelevant. Right. At the end of the day.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah. These purists are killing us.
SPEAKER 14 :
And quickly, folks, for those of you that would argue with me and say, well, that's not what Christ would have done, that's exactly what he did.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 14 :
Because he actually got accused of doing the very things that Andy and I are talking about.
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER 14 :
It's partially why they crucified him, to be honest with you, because he wasn't pure enough for the Pharisees and the Sadducees. Right, Andy?
SPEAKER 08 :
Not with their kind of purity, no.
SPEAKER 14 :
He wasn't as pure as they thought he should be. That's why they crucified him. He was a disruptor.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 14 :
Right? Oh, yes, absolutely. So, folks, those of you that would say Christ wouldn't do that, he did that. That's what got him crucified.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 14 :
You're wrong. Again, you're looking at things completely the wrong way.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, and also people have to understand there's a difference between having to win an election and get a majority of the vote and making a personal decision for Christ.
SPEAKER 14 :
You see what I'm saying? And I always have to remind people of this because at times even I don't say this enough. In the United States of America, and in every state, city, local election, whatever the case may be, we are a republic.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 14 :
We are not a democracy. I am hiring somebody to go do something that I can't do myself, meaning they're an employee of mine. So I ask all of you that are Christian employers, is every employee you hire perfect? No. Does every employee that you hire do exactly what you do?
SPEAKER 08 :
Yes. All of them have to be perfect and pure. Otherwise, they're all fired.
SPEAKER 14 :
Does every employee actually believe the same way you do? No, of course not. So then, at the end of the day, there's your answer to what we're talking about in politics. Dan, go ahead.
SPEAKER 15 :
It's pride. Flat-out pride. People are too prideful. People that vote for principled people and people who are principled. It's pride in their not willing to admit that, like you guys are saying, take four out of the 20 because you still got four and then you got a foothold. It's just like people that want to, they're principal, they go to school, they get an education, they think they need to be in a higher up position and they won't accept a job. It's just like take the job, get your foot in the door, and then move up.
SPEAKER 14 :
Right.
SPEAKER 15 :
But if you never take the job, you're never going to move up. That's right. You're principled, but you're unemployed.
SPEAKER 08 :
But you're broke. Yeah, you're principled, but you're broke. Well, Dan, really quick here. Curtis Sliwa literally has a 0% chance to win. He could run for this 1,000 times. He would lose 1,000 out of 1,000. There is zero chance. So all he's doing is making a statement.
SPEAKER 14 :
Right.
SPEAKER 08 :
And his statement is taking votes away from a lesser evil.
SPEAKER 15 :
That's right. But I've said this before, is we're so principled that we're throwing the baby out with the bathwater. That's right. And it's like, so we're against abortion. Let's just use abortion as an issue. So... We won't vote for a candidate, and I guess that was Joe O'Day, right? That's correct. Right?
SPEAKER 14 :
Because he believed in – he was okay with early abortions, you know, first-term abortions.
SPEAKER 15 :
Okay, which the majority – the polling shows the majority of people are – they're okay with that, even though it's wrong. Agreed. But that's a different subject altogether. So we lose a seat, and – Instead of having early-term abortions occur, now we've got abortions up to and probably including the day of birth. And so we lost out big time.
SPEAKER 14 :
And let's look long-term. And now we've got the same person we lost against that's most likely going to be governor of Colorado that will then appoint our previous governor senator, meaning it's a double whammy, and we lost huge, Dan. But see, those people that I'm talking about don't think that far down the road.
SPEAKER 08 :
They believe strategy is compromise, and compromise is evil.
SPEAKER 14 :
They have no clue.
SPEAKER 15 :
It's not...
SPEAKER 14 :
OK, sorry. No, you know, yeah, we and we got to run to break. But, you know, Dan, I get it. You're spot on. I feel trust me. We feel he's frustrated. I feel his frustration, Andy, because you and I go through this all the time because it is all it is so frustrating.
SPEAKER 08 :
I know Dan is reasonable and that's why he's miserable about this.
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All right, that's it for today. Andy, thank you very much. Charlie, your engineer, you guys have a fabulous evening. We'll be back tomorrow, Health and Wellness Wednesday. This is Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
SPEAKER 1 :
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In this episode of Rush to Reason, John Rush and Andy Peth tackle a packed hour of politics, policy, and purpose. They start with the Colorado governor and Senate races, exposing the Democrats’ likely game plan of swapping seats — Polis to Senate, Bennett to governor — while the GOP struggles to mount a strong challenge. Then, they dive deep into Supreme Court succession, arguing that conservative justices must act now to secure the Court’s future and debating whether Ted Cruz, Trey Gowdy, or a younger legal mind should take the bench next.
Later, author Donya Greenberg joins the show to discuss her book Biblical Feminism and the Tree of Life Bible translation. In an engaging conversation, she and the hosts explore how women’s roles in faith have been misunderstood, how biblical language shapes identity, and how men and women together reflect God’s design. The trio’s honest back-and-forth on gender, faith, and family offers a rare blend of intellect and heart — straight talk about the roots of creation, discernment, and unity in God’s plan.
As always, John and Andy bring humor, conviction, and reason to Denver’s Afternoon Rush — where faith meets current events and nothing’s off the table.
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SPEAKER 13 :
All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560, hour number two. And somebody asked if I was going to talk, so we'll continue on. We talked a lot about, and we will be in the future, so trust me, this whole topic on the governor race in Colorado, and I want to keep reminding people that we haven't really heard anybody on our side even talking about, okay, what about some of the, or what about the Senate race that's going to be happening as well? And I don't know why, Andy. Yeah, why is that? They're all running for governor. It's a great Some of these, by the way, might actually be able to do something on the Senate side, potentially. I mean, I'd have to really look closely at that to determine exactly whether they would be electable or not. And has the Democrats announced who they're going to? No. Is it going to be Hickenlooper? Is he going to bow out or is he going to stay in it? Have we heard what he's doing one way or the other?
SPEAKER 03 :
I'm sure he'll stay in.
SPEAKER 13 :
And then who's going to take Bennett's place?
SPEAKER 03 :
I would think Polis. If he doesn't run for president, I would run for the Senate if I were him. I'm just saying, wouldn't you? It's either president or the Senate. So, you know, one of them.
SPEAKER 13 :
So they feel like they can just swap?
SPEAKER 03 :
Of course. Why not? By the way, in Florida, Ron DeSantis is going to have to start thinking about that himself.
SPEAKER 13 :
Hmm. Yeah. Hmm. You know what? Why hadn't I thought about it that way? They're just going to flip-flop is what you're thinking.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, it's certainly a possibility. Why not?
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, if we don't do any better on our side, that's exactly what's going to happen, Andy.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah. You're not wrong. And they'll win in landslides. Because the beauty of it is you're turned out, but you're not turned out in the other position, and you've already got full name rack. Okay. Total name recognition, which you don't have to create. It's great. I mean, even somebody like Victor Marks on our side, he has right now, apparently the greatest name rec.
SPEAKER 13 :
Because Hickenlooper is the one that's going to have to rerun. So he's who you're going to run against on our end.
SPEAKER 03 :
Right, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER 13 :
And then does – I'm not familiar with the rules. I'm sorry. I apologize. I should know this. But because Bennett isn't at the end, he's got several more years left. If he – Oh, you could run in the Senate forever. No, what I'm saying is if he gets elected because he's got years left in his term, how does he get replaced? Is that through the governor of Colorado or how does that work? Charlie, do you know?
SPEAKER 03 :
I honestly forget how we do it in Colorado.
SPEAKER 13 :
Because it's different. Different states do different things, right?
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah. I mean, I think would have how many years would he have left in his term?
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, he was just elected in 2020. Was it 22? No. Yeah, 2022 is when he was elected.
SPEAKER 03 :
So he's got two more years. I would think if he won, then they would appoint somebody for the remainder of his term. But I can't. I don't know how long his term. I would think the governor. But every state is different. So honestly, offhand, I don't know exactly how Colorado handles that. But I would think the governor.
SPEAKER 13 :
I'm typing this in to find out because I don't know how that actually works. I should have looked this up. I'm sorry. So if Michael Bennett were to win the 2026 Colorado gubernatorial election, he would resign his U.S. Senate seat, of course, and as governor, appoint his own replacement. So going back to your point on Polis, Polis potentially could be his replacement for those last two years.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 13 :
Hmm.
SPEAKER 03 :
Which makes perfect sense. I mean, wouldn't you do that?
SPEAKER 13 :
Sure I would.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 13 :
In a heartbeat.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, and Polis, he could stay in the Senate until he dies. Here in Colorado, he'd never lose.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, even if you didn't get something done as VP or president, you just hang out there forever. Right. Yeah, yeah. That's probably the full Democrat plan right there.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, you've got to keep in mind, if he's not going to run for president right away in 28, because everything changed.
SPEAKER 13 :
Right.
SPEAKER 03 :
With Vance. Once Donald Trump chose J.D. Vance as his running mate, everything changed for 28. Now the Democrats have to face a terrific debater. They weren't expecting that, okay? They were not expecting to have to face one of the big three, which are— True. Vance Rubio, DeSantis. Those are the big three. Nobody on the left wants to face any of those three. True. They wanted us to choose someone else. Now that we're going to get most likely a Vance Rubio ticket, I think that's what it's going to be. I don't know who's even going to want to run in 28 against that. Certainly not Polis. Polis doesn't want to rack up a loss. And so I think Polis would want to go in the Senate, wait for the country to swing back to the left in time, and then he will have the national profile from his work in the Senate. Then he can run for president.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, meaning he would be, for all of you that maybe don't know this, he would be a representative that was for a long time out of the Boulder area, then became governor of Colorado for eight years.
SPEAKER 03 :
Right.
SPEAKER 13 :
And then would go on to be a senator for who knows how long.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, until he'd be a senator, until the national mood would swing back, because eventually it will. But right now, 2028 just looks awful for the Democrat Party. First of all, registration levels have surged on the right. I don't think that looks good in 2028. 2026, they might do well just because, well, you know, Trump. It's his midterm. But no, nobody wants to face Vance Rubio.
SPEAKER 13 :
Nobody wants to. I can't argue with you.
SPEAKER 03 :
Vance Rubio, at this point, have all the advantages of Donald Trump and none of the disadvantages. I mean, what a ticket. Good Lord. I mean, would you want to face that?
SPEAKER 13 :
No, and again, I don't think your analogy is all that off. I think, you know, given what we just talked about, no, I think you're spot on. Okay.
SPEAKER 03 :
All right. There you go.
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SPEAKER 11 :
Putting reason into your afternoon drive, this is John Rush.
SPEAKER 13 :
And we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Something that several of you actually sent me information on. I saw this first thing this morning, so I didn't really need to have anybody send me things. But, hey, this is a deep topic or a hot topic, I guess I should say. And a lot of you were, you know, Johnny on the spot on this. But I did see it. Denver budget woes deepen as a major leaseholder stops paying its $650,000 a month monthly rent. So they bought, the city of Denver did, the Denver Post building at 101 West Colfax Avenue. The tenant, their largest tenant there, keep in mind that the city of Denver rents some space in that building currently. So wait a minute. The city of Denver is the landlord? They own it. Okay. Continue. And their largest tenant decided to stop making rent payments as of August. Right now they owe the city about $2 million.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 13 :
The largest tenant's name is DP Media Network LLC. I'm guessing Denver Post Media Network LLC.
SPEAKER 03 :
Oh, boy.
SPEAKER 13 :
$2 million they're owed right now. Now, frankly, this was a really bad choice, in my opinion, to buy this building in the first place. This is one of those areas where I talk about all the time, not the proper role of government, never should have bought it. Their plan was to move the Denver court system down there at some point as a 303,000-square-foot building. Quite honestly, you don't need 303,000 square feet for courts, not in today's world.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay, but if the Denver Post, it's the Denver Post? Basically.
SPEAKER 13 :
It's the Denver Post building, and DP Media is the tenant.
SPEAKER 03 :
All right, whatever. If DP Media isn't paying, first of all, you're going to have to try to sue them to get some of that money. But setting that aside for a moment, would this facilitate speeding up moving the courts into that building? I mean, you might as well. You got the building now.
SPEAKER 13 :
You bought it. Yeah, that I have no idea.
SPEAKER 03 :
What do you think?
SPEAKER 13 :
I would. I think you need to do whatever you can to try to recoup things. But keep in mind, this is a budget issue because they are now $650K a month out. Yeah, exactly. That money's not coming in, by the way. Bob and Thornton, go ahead.
SPEAKER 14 :
Hi. So you guys are talking about succession plans to run for president, vice president and stuff. There's going to be some – Trump's got reinstated. Not a third years left. They ought to be starting to look at the Supreme Court, because you've got Sotomayor that's in poor health.
SPEAKER 13 :
They should be looking at that as we speak.
SPEAKER 03 :
Actually, the two eldest conservatives on our side need to step down as soon as possible.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yep.
SPEAKER 03 :
No, they need to. They need to because we've got to do it while we still have the Senate. Look, we're going to hold the Senate in 26, barely, but we've got to.
SPEAKER 13 :
We can't make the same mistake, Bob, that they made with Ginsburg.
SPEAKER 03 :
Right. They've got to step down.
SPEAKER 14 :
But Clarence Thomas is the oldest. He's 77. Right. And he has indicated that he might want to retire while— Trump is in there so that, you know, he didn't want to sooner than sooner than later.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah. Both of them need to step down. And by the way, he needs to do more than indicate that he might want to. He needs to simply do it. Look, I'm sorry, but the future of SCOTUS is up in the air here. We cannot take any chances with this.
SPEAKER 14 :
Right. Samuel Alito is 75.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, him too.
SPEAKER 14 :
But that's not that old for a Supreme Court justice. So am I. You're. she has indicated that she's ill. So I don't wish anything bad on her.
SPEAKER 13 :
But again, she has to make that decision on her own, which we have no influence in. You have influence on the other two. I'm with Andy. The other two need to resign as quickly as possible and get somebody in that's about 25 years younger.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah. I mean, Sotomayor is in poor health, Bob. I've seen that, too. I got news for you. They will put her on whatever life support they can possibly put her on and keep her alive as a walking zombie if they have to.
SPEAKER 13 :
They did it with Ruth.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah. They're going to push it as long as they possibly can until they get a Democrat president.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah. The other two, though, Bob, need to step down and do this ASAP.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yep. Well, yeah, but I mean, she's probably got some family and her health is bad.
SPEAKER 13 :
irrelevant yeah yeah yeah it doesn't bob they don't care yeah democrats they'll prop her up until the very end she could be a skeleton sitting there they don't care bob i was raised a democrat let me tell you something they only care about power it doesn't matter family health history things these things are irrelevant they only care about holding on to power well and they prove that with ginsburg right they're gonna she held on way longer than she should have than she should have
SPEAKER 14 :
It doesn't matter what somebody else thinks if she decides to retire.
SPEAKER 13 :
She won't. She won't. No offense, Bob. She's an activist. You are giving her far too much credit. She is in that for the long haul on the Democrat side.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, she doesn't care. If I was 71 and had poor health.
SPEAKER 13 :
Bob, it doesn't matter. You're not thinking correctly.
SPEAKER 03 :
You don't understand.
SPEAKER 13 :
Let me say it this way. You're thinking correctly. She doesn't.
SPEAKER 03 :
Exactly. Bob, you're thinking as a rational person. There's the problem. She's not. She is an all-in, hardcore, anti-American, Marxist activist. That is her entire life's calling. It is all that matters to her. It is all she thinks of when she wakes up. It's all that she thinks of when she goes to bed at night.
SPEAKER 14 :
I have no clue as to what her personal life is.
SPEAKER 03 :
No, I can guarantee you that is her mindset. She votes that way. This is a hard line, hardcore left-wing Marxist activist. All the way. She will hold on to the bitter end. Guaranteed.
SPEAKER 14 :
I'm a hardcore conservative Republican, and it didn't keep me from retiring.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, but you're not on the Supreme Court, and you don't have a bunch of lefties in your ear. Well— Keep in mind, Bob, and this is the problem our side has that the other side doesn't. The other side has marching orders, and they do exactly what they're told to do. Our side doesn't do that, Bob.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, anyway, I would— So really quick, though, just to reiterate, the other two, though, on our side, I firmly believe, and I'm glad you brought this up because it's not being talked about enough, the other two need to step down ASAP. Absolutely.
SPEAKER 14 :
Absolutely. Well, they got over three years.
SPEAKER 13 :
No, they don't. No, they don't. You've got midterms coming up that you don't know exactly how that's going to turn out when it comes to the Senate. Right now, you can control it. Right now, it needs to happen before next November.
SPEAKER 03 :
Exactly, because, Bob, for all we know, for all we know, a couple of Republicans who we think are shoe-ins to win could have some kind of scandal happen. And all of a sudden, we're down 51-49 in the Senate.
SPEAKER 13 :
We have the control now. We need to take advantage of it.
SPEAKER 14 :
My... choice for the next one that leaves the Supreme Court would be Ted Cruz.
SPEAKER 13 :
I can't argue that.
SPEAKER 03 :
I think he'd be fantastic. My only concern is Ted Cruz is not as young as I would like to put on the Supreme Court. I would like to put somebody on there younger.
SPEAKER 13 :
So who is a good attorney that would do well at that?
SPEAKER 03 :
I don't know.
SPEAKER 13 :
Somebody that's in the legal end of things that would do well at that.
SPEAKER 03 :
Preferably somebody who is currently eight years old.
SPEAKER 13 :
I want somebody there forever. I want somebody that's in their at least late 50s, early 60s at max, and I would prefer to have somebody in their early 50s, Bob. 40s.
SPEAKER 03 :
I want somebody in their 40s.
SPEAKER 13 :
You can find him.
SPEAKER 14 :
I think by the looks of Ted Cruz, I think he's got a good 20 years ahead of him.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, he would be. I mean, if you're just talking about who would be my personal favorite, it's Ted Cruz. Yeah. I would say the same. But if there's a younger Ted Cruz, that's who I'd want. The reason I'd want Ted Cruz, Bob, is I have been disappointed too much with the people that we thought were sure things like Amy Coney Barrett.
SPEAKER 14 :
So Ted Cruz has an amazing grasp of law. Correct. Congressional law. Correct. Everything else. Yep. Just spectacular.
SPEAKER 13 :
No, I agree.
SPEAKER 14 :
Get 20 years out of him, fine.
SPEAKER 03 :
He would be another Scalia Thomas. He'd be exactly like them.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, and if you get 20 years, that might be a worthwhile endeavor, although I'm with Andy, though, Bob. If we could get 30 out of somebody else, I'd rather do that.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, I think the biggest miss we're going to have when he's gone is Clarence Thomas.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yep.
SPEAKER 14 :
We'll never get anybody like that again.
SPEAKER 13 :
Can't argue. And by the way, again, not being talked about enough. Ted would be like Clarence Thomas. He would be.
SPEAKER 03 :
Only just for 20 years.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah. How old is Ted? Do you know?
SPEAKER 03 :
I don't. I think he's in his 50s. I think maybe 60. I think he's older than that, I want to say. Is he in his 60s? No, he's 54. Okay, 54. So that's not too bad.
SPEAKER 13 :
He could have 30 years.
SPEAKER 1 :
84.
SPEAKER 13 :
It's possible. How old was she?
SPEAKER 03 :
I don't know. She looked a lot older than she was.
SPEAKER 13 :
Let me look here really quick. I don't know this stuff off the top of my head. I'm sorry, folks. I usually do.
SPEAKER 03 :
I mean, RBG was very unhealthy toward the end.
SPEAKER 13 :
Oh, man, they propped her up for a couple of years, did they not?
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, yeah, totally.
SPEAKER 13 :
So let's see here. She, 1933 to 2020, how old did that make her? Somebody do that off the top of their head really quick. Charlie, anyone?
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, that's 87.
SPEAKER 13 :
Okay, so there you go.
SPEAKER 03 :
Wow. So I didn't know she was that old.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah. I, well, maybe if Ted could go that long, I mean, why not? I mean, the thing about Ted is he's a sure thing. I don't have to worry that he would be the next Amy Coney Barrett.
SPEAKER 13 :
Very true.
SPEAKER 03 :
And we can't have another one of that. And my goodness, our Supreme, you know,
SPEAKER 13 :
The other thing about Ted that I do like.
SPEAKER 03 :
John Roberts is just a disaster.
SPEAKER 13 :
I think the one thing that Ted does, and maybe I'm wrong in this, is he brings some influence to the rest of the bench that I'm not sure the rest of them can do.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, that's true. Look, if age wasn't a concern at all, he is not just my first choice. He's my first choice by a long shot.
SPEAKER 13 :
54 is not that bad, Andy.
SPEAKER 03 :
It's not too bad.
SPEAKER 13 :
No, that would work. It's not too bad. That could work, actually.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah. I mean, that's a little younger. I was thinking upper 50s, so it's a few more years than I thought. Boy, he'd be great. And you wouldn't have to worry about getting another Thomas then. No, you wouldn't. You got him.
SPEAKER 13 :
You'd have one shoe in. Again, this is another top – Bob, thanks for bringing it up because in my opinion, this is another one of those topics that frankly just isn't talked about enough. But back to the whole Denver buying of the building and all of that – What a boondoggle. By the way, there are council members that are now talking about that basically had found out about this through the news media that said, I had no idea all of this was even going on. They hadn't been paying their rent since August. So what in the world, Mayor Johnston, are you doing and what's going on at the city of Denver?
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, John, what can they do to try to get some of that money?
SPEAKER 13 :
I mean, it's $2 million that they're behind on rent. You'd have to sue them, and that could be long drawn out. There's no guarantees you're going to get that overnight. And you've got to go through an eviction process, and, and, and, and, and. This is not an easy thing.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, it's also really ugly for the Democrats to be suing Democrats for money.
SPEAKER 13 :
That's true.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay. And, I mean, not only it's Democrats in government suing Democrats in media for money. That doesn't look good. And, and you're going into midterms and you're going into a governor and Senate race. It's just, it's, you know, I'm just saying all around, it's just kind of ugly. It's not good timing.
SPEAKER 13 :
I don't, again, I'm one that's like, okay, they paid $88.5 million for this particular building, 303,000 square feet. Were there other choices, other even, you know, high rises, things like that, that would have done as well as this? And I don't know. And I don't know enough about the current.
SPEAKER 03 :
Have you been there?
SPEAKER 13 :
No, and I don't know enough about the current makeup of the current courts and so on, but I just have to wonder how needed was a $88.5 million purchase for the city of Denver?
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, I don't know. I don't know how needed it was, but I do know this. Look, if you're not getting paid for that, I would start moving. I mean, if you did this, if you bought that with the idea of moving the courts there, then move them.
SPEAKER 13 :
Right. Can't argue that.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 13 :
But again, just an example. Biggest thing of this article, and I think this is even where a lot of the reporters on this article are going, what a boondoggle. Oh, my word. What? I mean, council members not even knowing that it's $2 million behind on rent and late fees. You've got council members that don't even know what's going on. That's embarrassing, by the way.
SPEAKER 03 :
How's that going to affect the total budget?
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, they're already way upside down as it is. I talked about that yesterday. Right.
SPEAKER 03 :
I mean, what are they going to do?
SPEAKER 13 :
They're in a world of hurt. They've got to figure out what they're going to cut out.
SPEAKER 03 :
Now, this isn't Colorado. This is Denver.
SPEAKER 13 :
This is the city of Denver.
SPEAKER 03 :
Right, and the city of Denver is already in terrible shape. Real quick, here, before we go to Dave, they're in terrible shape because they've lost so many big renters downtown. Those skyscrapers, they're losing a lot of money.
SPEAKER 13 :
Correct. Dave, go ahead.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, you know, when it comes to the... denver post building another question you need to be asking is why haven't they been paying the rent is it possible that the denver post might finally be going under possibly a blessing i would think and maybe that's why they're not paying their rent possibly but where would we get our good accurate fair reporting there you go that's what i'm saying have you ever had it from the denver post i don't think so uh the other thing i'm with andy uh when it comes to the supreme court If we're going to get somebody, let's get an 8-year-old, because I'll guarantee you that 8-year-old knows the difference between a man and a woman, unlike Tangy Brown. That's good.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, I can't argue that one.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah. And if we could, if I had my choice, Ted Cruz would be great, but I think a good firebrand to have up there who's got a breadth of knowledge when it comes to law would be Trey Gowdy. He's not doing anything right now. I think he would be pretty good up on the Supreme Court. And I agree that we've really got to push that because politics right now at the national level seems really pretty fluid. And thankfully the president is moving quickly to get things done because I think he realizes that things can change overnight and we've got to move quickly to make things happen. So I agree that we've got to push those older SCOTUS justices to step aside because you've got to realize, too, how long is the confirmation process? Democrats are going to fight tooth and nail. Exactly. And they're going to dig everything and anything up that they can, and that can be drawn out for months.
SPEAKER 03 :
It will be.
SPEAKER 06 :
It's got to be done quickly. Yeah, it's got to be done quickly.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, I agree. By the way, Dave, we've got two who could step down. How about both Gowdy and? Cruz. Cruz. You know, one of the big advantages of Ted Cruz, of course, is that he's from Texas. We know we can get another Republican elected there to replace him. Yeah, that one's easier.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah. And when it comes to the state races here, I think what Polis would do is, should Bennett win, he would just be a placeholder. Since the Democrats have control of the state, he would just be a placeholder at that position for the Senate, since they've already got it sewn up. And he would just, by this time until 2028, he'd get the name recognition for two years up in the Senate, and then he would run for president. Because he wouldn't have to worry about me or the Democrats about losing that seat, because really, as disheartening as it sounds, they have control of the mechanisms of state government. So, you know, they're not going to lose the seat anytime soon.
SPEAKER 13 :
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Now, back to Rush to Reason. And we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Appreciate you. Say that again, Charlie. And Donya joining us now. Donya Greenberg, welcome. How are you?
SPEAKER 08 :
I'm very glad to be here. Thank you, John, for your time.
SPEAKER 13 :
Oh, thank you very much. I appreciate it. Author of Biblical Feminism, Provoking Humanity to Restore the True Value of Women. You also are the founder of the popular Tree of Life Bible Translation. Talk to us about not only your book, but... just this whole topic and where we have gone, where we have come from and where we are today when it comes to, especially the female part of all of this. I want to talk a little bit later in our program about the male sides of things. I had a question that came in from a listener that I'll cover next hour, but let's talk about the female side right now.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, I think that cancel culture destroys humanity, and we need to hear the second voice in creation, right? The second witness to creation is women. And women think differently than men, we have different priorities than men, and we read the Bible and glean different things out of it. So giving women a way to connect with the Bible and encouraging them to read the Bible for themselves is really the backbone of our country, is when the women of God are teaching our children that faith in God comes first, and faith in Yeshua is what leads us to the Father.
SPEAKER 03 :
Dania, I know this is going to sound overly generalized because the American church has so many denominations, but women in the church today in America, how do you think it's going? And what I mean is this, how do you think they are being treated? Do you think they are represented well, overrepresented, underrepresented, wrongfully represented, wrongfully taught? How do you think the church is handling women in America?
SPEAKER 08 :
Great question. I think that we're the most underserved population. I think when all we hear are male teachers of the Bible, and we're told that we're not allowed to teach because of one verse in the book of Timothy, we negate the fact that women are the ones who create character, right? We're the ones who raise children. We're the ones that God gave the gift of life to, that we would bring children into the world. And what you learn by the time you're seven is what you believe when you're 70. The very basis of what we believe comes from what our mother learned. But in order for women to really understand their relationship with God, they have to read the Bible for themselves. That's really the backbone of biblical literacy in America, is women in their Bibles.
SPEAKER 13 :
And as you know, too, and I think Andy probably would agree with this, some—Andy was talking about denominations a moment ago—some do really well at what you're talking about, while others don't. And I'm sorry to say that, but that's just the facts.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, it's hard to talk about because people feel so bad about it. But there's really no, there's such hope in the future. Women in reading their Bibles for themselves and going to church and supporting their husbands in leadership, all of that's really important. But the women's psyche, the way that we understand the God of the Bible is by studying the Bible and reading the text for ourselves. I'll tell you where it kind of starts, and I don't know that men really understand this, but in the garden, in the garden is where it starts. The first word that God speaks to a man is, where are you? Right? But likewise, in the same sentence, he says, in the next few verses, he says, what did you do to a woman? Well, believe it or not, women will take that and apply it to themselves, always feeling like the lesser party when there's the two of them in the garden. But that's not the way God sees it. If you go back to the Hebrew language, the word male and female are not complementary. They're uniquely distinct. And women hear God's voice uniquely as women. And that has to be celebrated.
SPEAKER 13 :
No, Andy and I, it's funny. We were talking at the top of the hour about discernment and how most women are, not all, but they're in general, and I'm talking for all of you listening, all of this conversation isn't, there's always exceptions to the rule, and I get that, Donya, but we're talking very general with all of this, at least I am. And when it comes to discernment, typically most women are very good discerners of people, situations, personalities, whether this person is actually legit or are they not legit. I mean, women are pretty good at that, which I'll just tell you straight up, we men typically are not. We're gullible.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, I think that valuing the discernment of women is a really great first step to take. it comes down to a matter of, do you trust women? Do you trust women? And the question is, does God trust women? Well, He gave us the gift of life.
SPEAKER 13 :
My answer is absolutely. There's a lot of times where I'll go to my wife and say, okay, what do you think about such and such, or what do you even think about this particular person? Because again, she's got a lot more discernment, and I'll give her full credit, because she's got discernment I don't have, and so there's times where I'll say, You know, what do you think about such and such? And I know, Andy, you do the same thing. And, you know, what my wife says, in most cases, I'm gleaning and learning from because she sees things that I don't see.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, she's your partner, right? A biblical feminist is committing to building family across generations. We want to work with men to find solutions. I'm done complaining about misogyny or hurt feelings. It's really about following God's favor and And when a husband trusts his wife to discern a situation, that woman doesn't need to be empowered. She has your favor. Women walk by favor. It's a beautiful thing that God has given us as a gift.
SPEAKER 13 :
So where did we get off track and not, I mean, for me, this seems pretty simplistic and something that I, no offense, I relate to very well. I assumed most men did this. I guess I'm wrong.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, it's been really difficult. So I was married to a Jewish man, right? We're Jewish believers in Jesus. So I learned the Old Testament and the New Testament like a two-wheeled bicycle. I read them both sequentially together.
SPEAKER 04 :
Wonderful.
SPEAKER 08 :
So there's just something beautiful about learning the Jewish roots of the faith, because when you get back to the Hebrew words and realize that men and women are distinct, distinctly unique, and yet we're also, as their conigdo, right? We're created... to help one another and to see over one another's shoulders to what's coming at us. We don't fight back-to-back as if saving ourselves is saving each other. Instead, we cling to one another to watch each other from across and see what's coming. That really is the miracle of marriage, is that we're meant to be in partnership, unique, unique parallel partnership with men.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, I've been married 22 years, and she is yet to be wrong. So, you know, she's undefeated. She's doing very well. I'm very impressed. Danielle, let me ask on the other side here, because we've talked here about the unique aspects of women and what they bring to a relationship that men can be missing. How about the other way around? What do men bring to a relationship that women can be missing? Because I believe the two are equally valuable and complimentary.
SPEAKER 13 :
I'm with you on that one. Absolutely. Yes.
SPEAKER 08 :
I'm so glad you asked that question. Can I just tell you that strong women love strong men? Oh, yeah. They're not complimentary in a way where we cancel each other out. We're there to support each other, to be strong together, to raise strong families.
SPEAKER 15 :
That's right.
SPEAKER 08 :
And there's nothing I love more than a husband who is strong and righteous, that chooses to do the right thing to honor God in his decision-making, because that makes a woman feel safe and makes the family covered. I will tell you this. I don't think that most people understand that the reason that women are not named in the Bible is really God's grace to hide children. God has put women in the place of standing between the husband and the child in the area of protection. If every woman was outed for her feelings, right, and every woman was named, we wouldn't really understand that God is about protecting children. And when you break down the relationship between men and women and put them against each other, The ones who really suffer are the children.
SPEAKER 03 :
Good point. Well, I would hope that men wouldn't be a threat to their children. Some are. Some are, yeah.
SPEAKER 08 :
I'll tell you something. The most important thing that a man can do is celebrate who his wife is and show his children, both his sons and his daughters, that together they make a fantastic team in leading the family. That's what we need to see more in churches. Honestly, if it was up to me to fix, I will tell you that. When my first husband, Rabbi Mark, before he went to be with the Lord, when we would lead congregational services, you saw both of us leading together because we trust each other and we were in partnership. Then if you add to that, including the children to learn the Bible along with their parents, we can reconvene the family unit together. inside the church environment and really bring healing and restoration to our whole country.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, I think what I have seen in a lot of young marriages, because I've seen a lot of young marriages in the church, is that it goes both ways. I have seen women who undermine the man, and I've seen men who undermine the women. And I've seen it go both ways. Bottom line, people are sinners, and therefore they are selfish. And I, yeah, what I, what I see a lot of the, is this, that either the man or the woman, or maybe even both, right? If you've got a really dysfunctional marriage, they can undermine each other. And that's very hard on the kids because what the kids need to see is what you were talking about. They need to see a unified front from the parents who look at the kids and say, look, we put you first and we put God above all, and we do it together. And too often, I don't think they see that.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah. Let me make this really clear, because this is where in the Bible, if you get taught the wrong thing, you'll believe the wrong thing. Let me clarify this for you real quick. In the garden, there was the tree of life and the tree of knowledge, and the tree of knowledge was good and evil, right? So if all you teach is that there's a tree of knowledge and there's good and evil, then there's two humans in one tree. So then knowledge is what divides us. Instead, look at it in a more Hebraic mindset. There's the tree of life and the tree of knowledge. Man and woman stand between them together. It's Satan that wants to come between us and pit us against each other. If you only teach that there's one tree in the garden, then you put man and woman on either side of it, and there's good and evil, Adam and Eve. Do you get my point, gentlemen? Eve and evil are not the same word in Hebrew.
SPEAKER 03 :
I never thought they were. I don't know anybody who thinks that women are equated with evil. Maybe some very bitter divorced men? Maybe.
SPEAKER 08 :
But would you think about the root word for a minute, though? Think about this, guys. It goes male and female, like female has a prefix on male. They're interrelated. According to Hebrew, they're not. They're zakar and nekevah, two totally disparate, two totally different words. Sure. But then in the English, eve and evil, right? And just follow me here for a second. Just think about how women think, okay? If there's a good person in the garden and an evil person in the garden because there's only one tree, where do you think that lets your mind wander? Meanwhile, think about it this way. Life and knowledge, male and female. Okay? together we find our place in God. The enemy comes to divide us, to pit us against each other. If we would just stop letting the enemy do that and work as a team in ministry, in life, in family, that would change the whole narrative. If we would remember there's two trees in the garden, two people together between them, And the enemy is a liar. He divided them. The tree didn't divide them.
SPEAKER 13 :
I had that same conversation with one of my clients today. It's funny, we're talking about that very same thing. And yeah, and I think people forget, Donya, at times that, you know, Satan is evil, absolutely to the utmost. Absolutely. But he is a deceiver. He can make things seem very beautiful. He can make things seem like they aren't. I mean, he does all sorts of things to try to deceive, as you said a moment ago, all of us, male and female, and to your point, pit each other against one another.
SPEAKER 08 :
That's right. It's the same thing with life and choice, right? You can't pit life against choice. The Bible says, choose life so you and your seed may live. We choose life because that's what God commands in His Word. We choose unity in a couple because it brings forth life. That's why a couple that doesn't, you just have to recognize that God loves life. He's a God of life. He has nothing to do with death. That's right. He's a God of resurrection, new beginnings, and life. That's the God that we serve. And that's what I want to celebrate. And I want women to feel like they have a place in the kingdom of God. They have a place in their family. They are trusted and they're loved. Loved by God. Think about it this way. In the Bible, right, the Son of God, right, Son of God, Son of Man. Son is clearly defined. People rarely talk about daughter. You know, daughter doesn't even arrive until after the birth of Seth in the biblical literature. And this is fascinating to me, because daughter of Zion, Zion is the name of a fertilized egg. Do you know men are purpose-driven, women are presence-driven? Correct. Daughter of Zion is a place where God creates life. Daughters should feel so excited about being a daughter of God, just like men want to be like the Son of God. Daughters need to understand that God loves them, and there is a place for them. We're in the Bible, we are in the garden, and we are in God's plan for the redemption of mankind. And don't let the enemy lie to you that that's not true.
SPEAKER 13 :
Absolutely. Yep, fully agree. All right, how do folks get the book?
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, the book is on Amazon. You can look at TLVBibleSociety.org to learn more about us. We have a TLV Bible app out. Please learn more about the Jewish roots of the faith. It will encourage you that Jesus died for all and for each of us individually.
SPEAKER 13 :
Amen. Donya, thank you. I appreciate it very much. Great words of wisdom.
SPEAKER 08 :
God bless you. Thank you for having me. No, you're very welcome.
SPEAKER 13 :
Appreciate it very much. And it's funny, I was texting some folks yesterday talking about that very thing, that, you know, those of you that are Jew haters, like, how can you be knowing what she just said? Yeah. I couldn't have said it any better. The foundation of our faith, that's where it comes from. We were grafted in, Andy, as it says.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, far too many people want to replace—what they say is the Christians are the new Israel, and therefore we've replaced the old Israel, so usher them out. And I'm just like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Yeah, no.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, you're missing the point. Yeah, you just heard her say the same thing.
SPEAKER 03 :
The Old Testament's still there, guys.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, it didn't go anywhere.
SPEAKER 03 :
No.
SPEAKER 13 :
He came to fulfill it, not— Christ came to perfect it, not to ruin it.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, not to cast it aside. That's right.
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SPEAKER 13 :
All right, really quick, that last conversation, as I said, a lot of what we talked about were in generals. Are there some great churches out there to where what she was talking about does not happen and women are, in fact, in some cases, Andy, I think maybe the church might even be a little too feminine because women have too much quote-unquote power when it's all said and done?
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, it's very diverse.
SPEAKER 13 :
I think it can go both ways, but I do understand where she's coming from and, frankly, have been around far too many churches that are very much the way she was discussing it.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, there are churches that flat out have women under their heel.
SPEAKER 13 :
Right.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 13 :
And that's what she's talking about.
SPEAKER 03 :
And there are churches also, though, that are heavily feminized.
SPEAKER 13 :
And I mean, a lot of them.
SPEAKER 03 :
I would say most of the church in America today is too feminine. is too feminine.
SPEAKER 13 :
As far as how it looks and feels and acts and so on.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, and I don't think that's uniquely the church. I'm just saying that most of America is. We've talked about this before because multiple generations have been raised almost entirely by one gender. If two people get divorced, the woman is almost always going to get the kids. This is just the way it goes.
SPEAKER 13 :
Right.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, I've never had kids, so this doesn't affect me.
SPEAKER 13 :
No, you're correct.
SPEAKER 03 :
Let me ask you this, because she said that men are purpose-driven and women are presence-driven. Okay. First of all, that's nice to know I have purpose. I never knew this. I'll tell my wife that. Let me ask you this. When you talk to the elderly and you talk to like a grandma or a grandpa. Why does the grandpa want to talk about what you're doing with your life, and why does the grandma want to talk about relatives?
SPEAKER 13 :
Because women— They always want to talk about, here's Aunt Sue's rheumatism is acting up. That's a great question. Most women are—she's right. Most women—I would have said it a little bit differently. She says, you know, purpose versus presence. Most men, they get their self-worth out of what they've accomplished, what they've done.
SPEAKER 03 :
So we are human doings, not human beings.
SPEAKER 13 :
Human doings. That's exactly right. That's where we get our value, if you would. And women, on the other hand, they get their value out of raising a home, raising a family. That's why women have a hard time changing some of those things, going from one home to another, the sale of, the move, and so on. Most women are nesters. They want to make things all right for the family because that's where their worth comes from. So she's right. They're living in the being, the presence, where we men are purpose-driven.
SPEAKER 03 :
It's always just amazed me, and I know we've got to go to break, but... No, no break.
SPEAKER 13 :
We go to the end.
SPEAKER 03 :
Oh, okay. You know, my mom, when she... And, you know, she passed a number of years ago due to breast cancer. But in her last several years when I did see her, obviously I'm very alienated from my family, but when I did see her, she would immediately go into talking about all kinds of relatives I haven't seen in 30 years.
SPEAKER 13 :
Right.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay, people I don't know.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yep, you're right. You're right.
SPEAKER 03 :
My dad... It would be talking about, you know, what are you doing with your life? Obviously sports, because we have that in common. But it's just so different, the topics. And what I've noticed is this is true of a lot of families.
SPEAKER 13 :
It's probably true of every family, Andy, to a certain degree. Now, there are some, as I said, even to her, there are some exceptions to this. For example, there are some women out there that are extremely purpose-driven. They want to make sure that they're doing well in their career and what they've accomplished and so on. But that's not normal for most women.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay, you've got a daughter. The mom will push the daughter. Why haven't you had kids yet?
SPEAKER 13 :
True. Some dads care because they want grandkids, but not like moms do.
SPEAKER 03 :
Not at all like moms.
SPEAKER 13 :
The moms are more the pusher than the dads are.
SPEAKER 03 :
That's why I was asking, why is that?
SPEAKER 13 :
Because of the nesting and that whole family aspect of what you were just talking about, that whole presence and being and so on.
SPEAKER 03 :
The dad is more there just to judge the quality of the husband you got.
SPEAKER 13 :
I like him.
SPEAKER 03 :
I don't like him.
SPEAKER 13 :
And or protect you from the knucklehead you might want to marry. Yeah. No, that's very true. He's a bum. Again, nothing that she said is wrong. I will say that maybe because of me, I've never looked at the Eve in evil, frankly, until she said that. I have never once in my entire life ever associated Eve with evil. Not one time. Because of the E-V-E and E-V-I-L, I've never associated it that way in my entire life.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, that wouldn't occur to me. I would just as quickly say evening, eve, whatever.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, that one's never come across my brain.
SPEAKER 03 :
But maybe that was different in her church.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, yeah, I mean, everybody's got different experiences and things that they've been around and grown up with and so on, and I'm sure there are those extremes out there where there's some folks that probably would very much agree with her. I just, I've never thought of it that way.
SPEAKER 03 :
Now, I know you have sons. You have daughters?
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 03 :
Have you gone through the joy? Because I've never had kids, but the one thing I missed out on is having a daughter so that I could put the young man through a living hell. Oh, I did that plenty.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, yeah. Was that fun? It was nerve-wracking. Is it really? It's fun sometimes to an extent, but nerve-wracking because you want what's best for your kids.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, but isn't it kind of fun putting them through the ropes?
SPEAKER 13 :
Oh, I don't know if fun's the right word. Okay. I wouldn't use the term fun. It's a concern because as a dad, again, you want what's best for your kids, especially your girls. Right. Because you want them to have the best when it's all said and done. Because as a dad, typically you provided the best. You want that same thing moving forward.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, they always say the two strongest relationships are father-daughter, mother-son. Yep, that's very true.
SPEAKER 13 :
All right, we've got another full hour coming your way. Don't go anywhere. We've got a guest joining us at the top of the hour. We're going to talk about Newsom, by the way. We'll be right back. This is Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
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SPEAKER 07 :
I'm kind of annoyed at myself, actually. I come to work, I'm supposed to have a head full of steam because I know that there are people in my world who are like real agitated about the No Kings protest Saturday. And I'm not even the least bit upset about it. And I wonder why. I hope I'm not losing my mojo. I don't care at all. In fact, it was all fine. There were a lot of bad actors, and they seemed to get isolated, and they've been outed by people with cell phones. A lot of teachers doing despicable things, making a shooting in the neck motion to some kids that supported Charlie Kirk. That's classy, huh? Turns out she's a teacher in the Chicago public schools. An activist got up and said, you got to get guns and we got to start murdering ICE officials, ICE officers in the streets. He got exposed. Even somebody who went to a, I guess a football game somewhere where Winsome Sears appeared and the guy yelled, go back to Haiti. Go back to Haiti. Called her a traitor. He's been identified. Apparently he's got a kid who plays on the football team at the game that Winsome Sears was attending. So there were examples of really bad faith, nasty, lousy, rotten, miserable people. And they've been exposed. They've been identified. They've been exposed. I think there's a lot of accountability going on in a lot of offices. Monday morning, I think you saw a whole lot of people who were happily being taken to task or not so happily taken to task for what they did. But in terms of the overall no kings protest idea, I want to share this with you. And I want to see if you are with me. Maybe you're not. Let them have their day. They got nothing. They can't change anything. They can't accomplish anything. They can't substantively end the trajectory of what's happening right now in America. But protest is something that we as a country ought to cherish. Now, certainly not the despicable things we saw all weekend on social media from people like the Chicago teacher with the bullet to the neck gesture. I'm talking about the vast majority of people who marched around with signs, I hate Trump, I hate his policies, I hate ICE, I hate what's going on. So what? Let them do their thing. What's the harm? I kept thinking about the unthinkable. And we don't have to spend a lot of time on this, but I do want to spend a few minutes on it because I want to make sure you think I'm not going bonkers here. If the unthinkable occurred and Kamala Harris won, and on Saturday, October 18th of 2025, during a Kamala Harris presidency where Lord only knows what would be happening in our country, If several million people gathered in the streets of America representing MAGA, we'd say, wow, that's a good thing. Look at what we were able to do. Incidentally, the number given was 7 million people, but that came from the organizers. So I don't trust that number. Cut that in half. It's probably 3 million people. Three and a half, I don't know, but several million people. So several million people took to the streets Saturday here in Tampa Bay, Seattle, New York, Los Angeles, Chicago, all over the country. I think they have like 220 locations. Good. Good for them. I'm not trying to be a smart aleck here, and I'm not trying to be a provocateur here. I watch people get all agitated about this, and I thought, gosh, I better be mad about it. Oh, I guess I gotta be upset. Oh, I gotta... And I'm not. Let them have their day. Let them express their frustration. They're having a hard time dealing with the success of the first nine months of the Trump administration. And it has been enormously successful. You can't You can't refute that. You may not like the success, but in terms of policy accomplishments, Mike Johnson put it best. He was on ABC this week and pointed out that these nine months that we've witnessed in the second Trump term have been as successful the start of any presidency in our lifetime.
SPEAKER 02 :
So no oversight going on, no oversight hearings. I want to ask. Oh, there's wait. There is oversight. There are no committee hearings going on. There's nothing.
SPEAKER 06 :
Just two days ago on Friday, the House Oversight Committee released the third batch of Epstein files. The documents from the Epstein estate that includes, by the way, his personal phone logs, his travel logs, his financial documents and even his daily calendar. That stuff is happening right now.
SPEAKER 02 :
We don't need to be on the House floor to do that. So Steve Bannon likened the Congress to the Russian Duma, which of course is just a rubber stamp for Vladimir Putin. How do you respond to that? I think this is a absurd notion.
SPEAKER 06 :
We have unified government. American people put Republicans in charge of the White House, the Senate, and the House. We are delivering for the people. You can make an argument. The first nine months of this Congress and this administration were the most successful, productive in history. Think of it. Think of the split screen, what's happening right now. President Trump and Republicans reduced taxes, reduced regulations to get the economy going again. Ending the crime crisis. Ending the border crisis. He's resolving wars and conflicts around the globe. What have Democrats done? They shut the government down.
SPEAKER 02 :
But oversight. I mean, I never really hear you raise critical questions of anything that President Trump is doing. Do you, at least in private, raise issues with... Yes, this is...
SPEAKER 06 :
This is what unified government looks like. The president and I talk sometimes multiple times every day.
SPEAKER 02 :
Congress is still a check on the executive branch.
SPEAKER 06 :
Congress is more than a check on the executive branch. We're the Article I body in the Constitution. We have a preeminent responsibility, and I take that seriously. A lifelong constitutional attorney and somebody who's been a jealous advocate of it. The president and I talked all the time about policies and decisions and all of that. We do that behind closed doors because that's what party leaders do when you're in the same party. It's called unified government. The reason we've been so productive is because we do that so well and we're delivering for the American people.
SPEAKER 07 :
Calm, cool and collected. And he's right. And it's arguably the most successful, productive, effective first nine months of any presidency of any administration we've ever seen. So my message to the No Kings protesters, and I want to get your reaction to it here in the Relief Factor studios. And please, I'm really, really urging you to call me to give me your feedback to how I feel today on this Monday, October 20th, 2025. To the No Kings protesters who were peaceful. to the No Kings protesters who just don't like the direction of the country, and you decided to take your Saturday and march around and express your dissatisfaction? Good for you. Good for you. Thanks for not killing anybody. Thanks for not shooting anybody. Oh, yeah, they found a hunter's lair, a sniper's lair, near the Palm Beach airport where President Trump gets out of the plane to go to Mar-a-Lago. You know they're going to do everything they can to keep this guy safe. They must keep this man safe. There's a lot of violent, awful people. A lot of evil in the world. But I don't believe for one minute that most of the millions of people who took to the streets Saturday are evil or violent. I think they're just ticked. They're just upset. They don't like deportations. They don't like success. Trump's successful nine months is their worst nightmare. So let them have their day. Nothing has changed. It hasn't moved the needle. I've given up trying to figure out what they were trying to accomplish. Nobody can tell me. Not even people who supported the No Kings protest. Nobody can tell me what they hope to achieve. So I've given up on that. And I truly believe we ought to embrace the recognition that protest is an American value. Peaceful protest is a tradition that is steeped in this great country of ours. And there is absolutely nothing wrong with men, women, and children taking to the streets and signaling their objection to an election outcome that they didn't approve of. So what? Let them have their day. And I would even take it a step, good for you. Good for you. There's nothing wrong with what happened Saturday. Am I wrong here? You don't think I'm going soft, do you? Because I'm starting to, I have to admit, I'm driving into work today thinking, this is how I feel. This is my heart. I got to share with you because I'm a big, I got a big mouth. And this is what I do. I think and I say it. But the bottom line is Republicans are in control. Republicans are likely to stay in control. And there's just not a doggone thing any of those people can do about it other than express their frustration. And we shouldn't condemn people for expressing their frustration that way. We just shouldn't. It makes us look petty and small and kind of stupid. Let them have their day.
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There were some pretty ugly moments at the No Kings protests on Saturday throughout America. The No Kings organizers claimed that 7 million people showed up. If they're claiming that number, it's probably about half. But nonetheless, a lot of people from Seattle to Tampa to New York to L.A. took to the streets to march around and protest. object, I guess, to the Trump presidency. I don't exactly know what the point is. I've given up trying to figure it out. I've given up asking people to tell me what the point was other than to vent and to express frustration and to peacefully protest your objection to the Trump administration. Okay, nothing wrong with that. That's a good thing. That's not a bad thing. Now, there were some really awful moments. And thankfully, a lot of the people who participated in ugliness were exposed. Did you see the woman mocking Charlie Kirk's assassination, who's been identified as a Chicago public schools teacher? Now, I don't know that I think it's true. It appears to be. She clearly wanted attention, so now she's getting it. The school that she teaches at, K-8, she teaches little kids. And a group of young kids had a Charlie Kirk poster hanging out of the car, and she made a shooting motion into her neck. She's a rather large, loud woman. And we've got the video clip, I believe, right, Jasmine? This is cut number seven, I believe. This is Lucy, well, I don't want to say her name. I mean, she's been identified as Lucy Martinez of the Chicago public school system. Teaches at a school, something, I think it's Nathan Hale Elementary. People recognize her from the video. If you're watching right now on Salem News Channel, As the kids were driving by with the Charlie Kirk sign, here's what she did. Now, the video shows her saying bang, bang to the kids with the Charlie Kirk sign and pointing to her neck, mocking this young husband and father's assassination. Now, if the reports are correct... Lucy is a schoolteacher in the Chicago Public School District, in the school system, K through 8. How would you like to have a child in that monster's classroom? How would you like to have a teacher who's capable of of pointing her finger to her neck and saying bang, bang to a car full of kids who love and support Charlie Kirk. Look, I'm not a big fan of doxing, where people get exposed in terms of who they are and where they work. But when they act this way, there ought to be some accountability, right? When they act that way, there should absolutely be accountability. Should there not? This woman has some explaining to do. And the principal of the school, as I understand it, probably another flaming lib, probably another Karen, another... liberal woman said, well, we've had a talking to with the teacher, and that banging, that assassination imagery does not comport with how we feel at Nathan Hale Elementary here in Chicagoland. Oh, really? Is she going to continue to get to teach? Should she continue to be a teacher of young children? What? So there were moments like that. There was the guy, an activist, I think also in Chicago. It looked like the real ugly stuff happened in Chicago. I don't know where this one's from. The No Kings protesters seem to be particularly aggravated at Charlie Kirk. Now, Charlie's dead. They murdered him. They assassinated Charlie. But apparently some of them still can't let it go. Check out this beauty. Cut number five.
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We need to get ourselves together. And we might even need to be a little bit meaner because the Republicans don't mind being mean.
SPEAKER 12 :
And by mean, what do you mean? Do you mean protesting? Do you mean maybe we have to stop being so nice? Because you seem like a pretty nice lady. I'm a pretty nice lady, but I can be pretty mean, too. Okay, and I have to ask this because people on the other side are going to say that they feel like the Democrat Party has been mean. Recently, with Charlie Kirk being assassinated, they... Charlie Kirk is a piece of garbage. Of course we were mean.
SPEAKER 13 :
I am so tired of people saying, oh, but, you know, it's a terrible thing. No, Hitler is dead. I'm glad Hitler's dead. Evil people have no place in... In my world, he was a hateful human being. It was disgusting, the things that he said and did. I don't have time for that. I'm sorry. I have to point my energy in other directions.
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Now, if you're watching her, she looks like she's, what, 60s? Got a nice fedora on, well-dressed woman. Looks like she's had some plastic surgery. She's got to be somebody's wife, wouldn't you think? Somebody's mother? I wonder if she has children, maybe Charlie's age. I wonder how she would feel if she had a chance to talk to Charlie's mom and dad. Standing there holding her stupid sign, saying, I think Democrats have to be a little meaner. And oh yeah, Charlie Kirk is Hitler. He's dead. I'm glad Hitler's dead. Charlie Kirk is a piece of garbage. And they think they're the nice guys. They think they're the ones who are righteous. They think they're the good guys. She probably has a sign in her yard saying hate has no place here. Now, those are some examples of people who... clearly went off the rails. I hope, frankly, I hope she's identified. I hope the teacher is identified. I hope the guy with the bullhorn saying you should take up guns and kill ICE officers, I hope he's identified. Because at the end of the day, there needs to be accountability for people who act like monsters. But let's be real for a moment and talk about the No Kings protest from 35,000 feet. Most of the people didn't act that way, I've got to believe. Most of the people aren't that psycho. Most of the people marching around were probably people who just don't like the direction of the country. And so they're marching around saying, no kings, we don't want an emperor, we don't like the direction of the country, we don't like the outcome of the election. Okay, good for you. There's no reason for us to get upset at those people. I'm talking about the peaceful people. The majority of people who just walked around with a sign saying no kings. Good for you. Protest is an American institution. Peaceful protest is something we should cherish. And if you want to take to the streets because you're so upset about the nine months of the Trump presidency, which I think a lot of normal people are celebrating and cheering because of the incredible success it has achieved so far, If you don't like it, okay, you have every right not to like it. It's America. If there really was a king, you wouldn't be allowed to stand there in the middle of Times Square with your stupid sandwich board. But you did. There's no kings. We're not England. We're not a monarchy. Yeah, you don't like the mass deportation. Yeah, you don't like the secure border. You don't like ICE. You don't like cops. You don't like law enforcement. We get it, we get it, we get it. But for not, there's nothing wrong with respecting disagreement. Now, what that old shrew did in attacking Charlie, calling him a piece of garbage, a young man who was just killed weeks ago, and she can't keep her filthy mouth shut and keep his name out of her mouth and restrain herself. That's not disagreement. That's evil, putrid, vapid hatred. She's just got a black heart. Her kids ought to be ashamed of her. Her husband ought to be disgusted. Her friends ought to be sickened that they count her among their friends. But to sit around and condemn all the people who are marching around, to sit around and mock all of them and say they're stupid and they're weird and they're what? No, let them have their day. You know, enjoy your life. If you are that miserable and unhappy, if you're that uncomfortable with where we are as a country, okay, peacefully protest and then Godspeed. It's the weirdest feeling that I have where I cannot even muster any anger, any frustration, any negativity about the No Kings Day. Good for them. Knock yourself out. Am I wrong? 800-655-MIKE. Give me your feedback. Give me your reaction. Did the No Kings protests upset you? 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SPEAKER 01 :
It's incredible the way the left makes excuses for themselves. Mike, we're having a really similar situation here in Virginia. I'm sure you've heard this very controversial statements by our attorney general candidate, Jay Jones, who got called out for some texts that he sent a couple of years back, calling for two bullets to the head of Todd Gilbert, his fellow delegate. And calling for Todd Gilbert's wife to be holding their two dead children. And not one Democrat has come out and asked Jay Jones to step down. They just make excuses. They'll condemn the statement. They won't condemn the man. I don't know when when did the Democrats become this way? When did they get to where they're justifying this kind of hateful violence? It's outrageous.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, and let's stick with Virginia for just a moment. Winsome Earl Sears was at a football game Saturday at James Madison U. And there was a guy in the stands who has been identified as the father of one of the players. And he yelled to Winsome Sears, go back to Haiti. Go back to, what, because she's a black woman? She happens to be from Jamaican. She's a proud, naturalized citizen. As she tells in her speeches, her father immigrated legally from Jamaica with $1.75 in his pocket. But this bigoted, white, liberal, you know, Democrat shouted, go back to Haiti. And again, who's condemning him in Virginia, Katie?
SPEAKER 01 :
Yeah, no, I know. It's incredible. And we just see this constantly. Mike, I get the stories all the time from our volunteers for the Fairfax GOP who are there as greeters at election sites. You can't believe the hate that they get. We have a great viral video, actually. I'll have to send it to you. One of our House of Delegate candidates just a few days ago was standing there campaigning, and one of those liberal Karens came up to her and just shouted in her face so rude and but a good thing was our candidate got it on film and it went viral and you know look we have to call these people out if their fellow Democrats aren't going to call them out we call them out and I really hope that the parents who have kids in the school of that teacher who said you know made that awful gesture about Charlie Kirk I hope those parents will speak up and say they don't want that kind of person teaching their kids. It's the only way we're going to stop this.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, who would want anybody teaching their kids that would be that way? You're not normal if you would think your child, your fifth grader, your sixth grader, your kindergartner, is okay in a classroom with such a hateful, evil, vile woman. We're visiting, of course, with Katie Gorka, who is the chairman of the Fairfax GOP. Look, this is going to boil down to elections. We have to get people in office who are going to reject this kind of insanity, this kind of hatred, this kind of evil. And you guys have uncovered something at the Fairfax GOP office today. about the Fairfax County's Office of Elections. They created mail-in ballot envelopes with a huge flaw. Walk us through what you've uncovered, Katie.
SPEAKER 01 :
Yeah, well, let's talk about the fact that we're still having to live with all the changes that were put in place under COVID. So one of them is we still have 45 days of early voting. Go figure. But the other is no excuse absentee ballots. So a lot of absentee ballots get sent out in Virginia. And what we just discovered last week is that there is a punch hole on the envelope that is supposed to be an aid to the visually impaired. And it just so happens that that punch hole lines up perfectly with the little voting bubble you would fill in if you were voting for the Republican Attorney General candidate, Jason Mayoress. And this is super important because I'm telling you, this race has been incredible. Nobody thought the Republicans were going to win in Virginia. But because of these texts that came out from Jay Jones, the race has really shifted. Just for example, Winsome Sears was down by 17 points in May. Today, she is within the margin of error, so she's down by only 2.2. And actually, Jason Mayores, the current attorney general, is now five points ahead of Jay Jones, the Democrat candidate. So the fact that you can see whether a ballot has been submitted in favor of Jason Mayores means— Postal workers or, God forbid, even election workers could just pull that ballot and chuck it. And people are really, really concerned about this. This was a huge, serious mistake.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, voting in America contains a sacred principle of your ballot being secret. And if it's not, then you've got anybody who can get in, see who you're voting for, and toss your mail-in ballot into the trash. This takes me back to this ongoing argument, this never-ending argument I have in my own brain about, over mail-in voting versus in-person voting. Because, frankly, I think the Republican Party in general, writ large, we hurt ourselves when President Trump and Republicans said, you just got to show up. You got to show up. Don't engage in the mail-in ballot. The problem is the Democrats have perfected early in mail-in voting, and they've got an advantage over us. So I think it feels like President Trump has sort of evolved on that subject. And he's like, well, let's go down any path we can. You've got to flood the ballot box any way you can. But where do you conclude on that issue, Katie? What do you think should be the proper course of action for a voter in Virginia, especially considering what you guys uncovered with these flawed ballots?
SPEAKER 01 :
Look, we just tell everybody, you know, we've got to just play by the rules as they current exist. If mail-in ballots are going to be used today, let's use them to our best advantage. You know, one of the advantages of mail-in ballots from our perspective is it's much easier to track down the people who haven't sent them in and to encourage them to send them in. So I don't think they're terrible, but until we can get back in power and get rid of them altogether or prevent bring it back to a place where you have to have a legitimate reason for why you need an absentee ballot. You know, the bottom line is absentee ballots are one of the easiest ways to cheat. We just hear constant stories from around the country of, you know, an empty location where 12 absentee ballots are showing up, right? What's happening with those absentee ballots? So what we are telling voters here in Fairfax County is still go ahead and send in your ballots, but just make sure that your vote is not showing up through that little hole. You bringing it in person or come vote in person. So there are ways to protect the privacy of your vote. But just we want people to be cognizant of this problem. And we want people to get out and vote. This is a super, super close rate. Republicans can win this, but we need people to come out and vote.
SPEAKER 07 :
You got to show up. You got to be engaged. And Katie, as we're talking, I just got a text message from California. Mike, they're doing the exact same thing with the punch holes and the way they line up in California, too.
SPEAKER 01 :
For the Proposition 50 vote, which is the big controversial redistricting vote in California. Absolutely. You know, and I have to tell you, when I saw this mistake in Fairfax County, I just thought, you know, human error. Right. But when I heard that the exact same thing is happening with the Prop 50 ballot, Mike, it's enough to make you paranoid.
SPEAKER 07 :
Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean not everybody's out to get you, Katie. That's the way I look at it. Look, I keep hearing remarkable reports about the job you're doing as chairwoman of the Fairfax GOP. And, of course, this is just the latest example of the great work you're doing. Keep fighting the good fight, Katie. Give my best to your hubby and your family. And it's great to catch up with you, Katie. I appreciate you joining us.
SPEAKER 01 :
Thank you, Mike. Thanks.
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You do the best. Katie Gorka with some great work out of Virginia. There's a lot more coming up on this busy Breaking News Monday, 800-655-MIKE. I hope you join us. Have you seen who Zoran Mamdani is posing for pictures with? A big, grinning, friendly-looking guy, right? Shouldn't be a disqualifier. Just, you know, you're hanging out with, oh, I don't know, terrorists. That and more coming up.
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SPEAKER 07 :
That buzzing you heard, incidentally, that was one of the moderators at the NYC mayor's debate. They did a horrific job. They just interrupted Sliwa every chance they got. They practically just bowed down to Zoran Mamdani. Look, if the polling is correct, he's gaining momentum. The more New Yorkers see of this guy, they apparently like him. And I know people, they'll never set foot in New York City again. It's going to get turned into such a hellscape. And what happens, we're going to sit around and say, well, we told you. We told you so. Why are you surprised? Why is this taking you by surprise? A lot of violent people on the left, too. You know, I had the weirdest takeaway of these No Kings protests Saturday. I actually just kind of disconnected from it all. Look, I can't get upset about it. The No Kings people claim that 7 million people showed up. I don't know if that's true. If they're claiming 7, I'll bet it's 3. But whatever it is, I kept thinking, look, if the shoe was on the other foot and if Kamala Harris won, And MAGA put together a Saturday where we said no Democrats or whatever. Okay, we'd be saying great. We'd pat ourselves on the back and say at least we stood out in the street and let our voice be heard. Nothing we could do about it. There was nothing we could do about it when Biden was president. And there was nothing we did about it. Oh, come to think of it, we didn't try to kill the guy. We didn't try to... destroy him financially and lock him in prison. We just lived with it. We went about our lives. But if we had a rally, if we wanted to have a rally, okay, fine. That's an American tradition. People that were so upset about the No Kings protest, I don't know what you're upset about. Let them have their day. Let them march around with their stupid sandwich boards and No Kings, whatever. I mean, we don't have any kings, because if there were kings, you wouldn't be allowed to protest in the streets. But nonetheless, that's an irony lost on them. They're not a threat to our position. They don't challenge us. I've given up trying to find out what the purpose was of the No Kings protest. To this day, nobody can tell me. To this second, nobody can tell me what the purpose was. I feel like giving a cash prize to somebody who can call me at 800-655-MIKE and tell me what the purpose was. I guess it was to vent, to express your frustration, to share your anxiety. Okay, you get to do that. It's America. Nothing wrong with that. although there were plenty of things wrong with plenty of things that happened at the No Kings protests, like this guy who is described as a professional activist. This happened, I believe, in Chicago.
SPEAKER 03 :
You got to grab a gun. We got to turn around the guns on this fascist system. These ICE agents got to get shot and wiped out. This state, the state machinery, that's a full display right there, has to get wiped out.
SPEAKER 07 :
These ICE agents have to get shot. They got to get wiped out. Now, if there was a king... That guy would have been placed in handcuffs on the spot, carted away, never to be seen again. Never to be seen again. We don't have kings. I guess we live in a country where we have normalized threats of fatal violence against law enforcement. And that guy, I don't know who he is. People ought to know. People ought to be aware of somebody that violent. But by and large, I don't think most of the people who showed up Saturday are prone to violence. Look, I hope they're not. If they are, well, we got the ruminations of a civil war on the horizon. There's a great text message on the MyPillow text line from Arkansas. Mike, it's like first grade again, voting for class president. These clowns are children. It's like, feel the way I feel, and my mommy will bring cupcakes every Friday. All right, well, okay, you can feel that way. You can feel they're childish. You can feel they're delusional. But they get to do this. They shouldn't get to do what that guy did. They shouldn't get to celebrate the assassination of a 31-year-old beloved figure like Charlie Kirk. Many of them did that, apparently. But in terms of the overall protest, are you really upset about it? Roy is in Colorado Springs. Hey, Roy, welcome to the Mike Gallagher Show. How are you?
SPEAKER 10 :
Hey. Hey. I'm okay. Better than not okay. Good. I keep telling people.
SPEAKER 07 :
That's the way to be. Yeah.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah. I didn't get to see much of the... no King stuff, but I did see portions of it. I saw a gathering of, uh, them. There were probably about 50, 60 people, maybe a hundred. I don't know. There might've been total of a hundred that I saw downtown in different groups. Right. I don't know. I don't know if they were the different groups, but there was, uh, I heard on the radio that, uh, this whole thing was – what they intended to do across the country was disrupt traffic, hold up traffic in the metros.
SPEAKER 07 :
Did they do that in Colorado Springs?
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah. Well, in my experience, taking one turn at an intersection looking for a parking place, yeah, I started my turn, and then they started – They were all instructed by one guy. Oh, wow. get away from the corner on the sidewalk, and get in front of my car.
SPEAKER 07 :
But let me ask you a question, though. Overall, though, with people in Colorado Springs, Tampa, New York, Chicago, all over the country, are you bothered by the whole concept, or are you kind of like I am? All right, let them march around, make a fool out of themselves, do what they want to do on Saturday, but who cares? I mean, were you bothered by the protest?
SPEAKER 10 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 07 :
You were?
SPEAKER 10 :
Just their presence was a disturbance to me because I follow. Mike, I'm an old school journalist, never worked in the field, but I do a lot of research.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 10 :
And I connect a lot of dots. And what I am projecting with this, after just last night reading an interview with Andy Noak,
SPEAKER 07 :
He's the guy that follows Antifa all the time out of Seattle, right? Yeah.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, he's great. He almost died in exile. They're looking for him. I know. I was attacked by an Antifa guy one night just driving down the street. Wow. And it was a practice shot at my truck.
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Oh, my gosh. Well, look, Roy, Antifa's a different story. These, of course, aren't all Antifa people. There aren't millions of Antifa. Although I did see George Conway with a goof of himself. He had a T-shirt on and said, I am Antifa. I don't think you quite fit the mold, George. I don't think you... I don't think you're an Antifa terrorist. You're just kind of a lost cause. But I'm just not bothered by these people, and I don't know why to be upset. Let them protest. Let them have their day. 800-655-MIKE.

Join host Rick Hughes on today’s episode of The Flatline as we explore the divine rules of order that ensure harmony within local churches. Delve into the historical mission of Paul in the city of Thessalonica, where he established a church against all odds, facing numerous oppositions from the community. Learn about the essential role of pastors and the importance of respecting and esteeming those who labor among you in the spiritual field.
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Welcome to the Flatline with your host Rick Hughes. For the next 30 minutes you'll be inspired, motivated, educated, but never manipulated. Now your host Rick Hughes.
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Good morning and welcome to the Flatline. I'm your host Rick Hughes and for the next few minutes please stay with me. Only 30 minutes of motivation, a lot of inspiration, a whole lot of education and and absolutely no manipulation because we're not conning you, we're not trying to ask you for money, we're not going to try to sell you something, we just want you to listen. Listen as I attempt to verify and identify the plan of God for your life. If I can do that, then you can orient and adjust to the plan if you'd like to do so. But this is the FLOT line, F-L-O-T stands for Forward Line of Troops, that concerns 10 unique problem-solving devices found in the Bible that we base this radio show around. If you learn those 10 unique problem-solving devices, you can stop the outside source of adversity before it ever switches over to the inside source of stress. We always say adversity, of course, is inevitable, but stress is absolutely optional, because adversity is what circumstances do to you, and yet stress is what you do to yourself. Before we launch into today's subject, let me make a couple of statements. We have a new book on the press. It's called Understanding Your Soul. It's a redo of an older book we have and we should have it by Thanksgiving. If you'd like to get an advance order in, you can email us, rick at rickhughesministries.org or you can go to our website, rickhughesministries.org. The 800 number that you might have called before is not working right now. We changed servers. and they inadvertently changed our number without asking us. It has affected everything, and so you may not be able to get through an 800 number, but you'll have to email us or go to the website, contact us from that direction. All right, thank you very much for listening. Thank you for a little bit of time this morning. Last week when I spoke to you, I talked about the soul, the soul of man, and we actually talked about the body, soul, and spirit out of 1 Thessalonians 5. And I told you that this passage I wanted to go back to and explain a little of it to you today. So I want to look at 1 Thessalonians 5, verses 12 through 22. And there are a lot of things in this verse. I'm only going to focus really on four things. But I run through some of them here for you so you kind of get the gist of it. Paul wrote to the church at Thessalonica, know them who labor among you. Esteem those people highly in love. Be at peace among yourselves. I'm going through 12, 13, 14. Warn the unruly. That's 14. In 1 Thessalonians 5. Encourage the faint-hearted. Support the weak. Be patient towards all. Don't render evil for evil. Follow that which is good. And now we get to the four verses that I want to concentrate on. Rejoice evermore, verse 16. Pray without ceasing, verse 17. And everything give thanks, verse 18. And quench not the spirit of God, verse 19. If you go on and look at it, verse 20 says, despise not preaching or prophesying, prove all things, hold fast to that which is good, verse 21, abstain from all appearances of evil, verse 22, pray for us, verse 25, and then greet all brethren with a holy kiss, verse 26. So as you read through this, what you're going to find is these are divine rules of order for a local church. I call it the divine rules of order for a local church. Every local church has to have these in order. If I were a pastor in a church, I would make sure that I taught this subject so that people would understand it. The divine rules of order for a local church are in verses 12 through 20. Now, what about Thessalonica? What is that place? This church was the establishment of the Thessalonian church and is recorded in the book of Acts. Dr. Luke wrote about it. During Paul's second missionary journey, that's when his church started. Very interesting history about it. Paul went along with Silas and Timothy and arrived in Thessalonica after they had gone through the town of Philippi. They went through a couple of other towns and came to Thessalonica, and they met in a Jewish synagogue. Remember, there's no New Testament church yet, so the Jews are assembled in the synagogue. And Luke says, as was his custom, Paul went in, and on three Sabbaths he reasoned with them from the Scriptures, explaining and proving that the Christ had to suffer and rise from the dead. He said, quote, this Jesus I am proclaiming to you is the Christ, He declared, some of the Jews were persuaded and joined Paul and Silas, along with a large number of God-fearing Greeks and quite a few leading women. The church faced immediate opposition, immediately. In Acts 17, five through nine, again, Luke writes, describes how some of the Jews that were jealous of Paul's success incited a mob to create an uproar in the city. They accused Paul and his companions of defying Caesar's decrees, claiming there was another king besides Caesar, and then claiming Jesus as the king. This led to the arrest of Jason, a local believer, and some others who were forced to post bond before being released. I want to read to you what Luke wrote in that passage in Acts. Here's what he wrote in Acts 17, five through nine. But other Jews were jealous, so they rounded up some bad characters from the marketplace And they formed a mob and they started a riot in the city. And they rushed to Jason's house in search of Paul and Silas in order to bring them out to the crowd. But when they did not find him, they dragged Jason and some other believers before the city officials shouting, These men have caused trouble from all over the world. Now they've come here. And Jason welcomed them to his house. They are all defying Caesar's decrees, saying there's another king, one called Jesus. When the crowd heard this, they had the city officials arrest him. The crowd was in a turmoil, and they made Jason get arrested, him and some others, and made him post bond before they even let him go, so they had to come back for trial. So there's all kind of trouble in this church at Thessalonica. So in Paul's first letter, this is what's interesting about this. In Paul's first letter, we find God's divine rules of order for our local church in order that it can function and be effective and be a representative of the Lord Jesus Christ. Many of you write to me and tell me you listen to the radio show on your way to church. I'm very glad you're going to church. I hope you've got a well-qualified pastor that's teaching you the Bible. He definitely needs to teach you these things. But I want to give you some insight to what Paul said about your church and how things should be cooperating. Because a lot of churches are in turmoil. A lot of churches are in conflict. I've seen everything you can imagine in my 50 plus years of being in the ministry. So the first rule of order for the local church, Paul wrote this. He said this, know them who labor among you. The Greek word for know is eido, E-I-D-O, eido. And we translate that to know. But in this sense, it doesn't mean just to know who they are. It means to appreciate them and respect them for the work that they do. Actually, to hold them in the highest personal regard. So what Paul is doing, he's ordering that the Thessalonians observe and respect the chain of command. Here's something you need to remember. Never, never, never, never run down your pastor. Don't ever do that. If you don't like him, leave, but don't try to run him off. I've seen that happen in churches where people that were members, I think they can run the pastor off and find another pastor because they don't like this pastor. They don't like the way he teaches. They don't like the way he talks. They don't like the way he dresses, and they run him down. You're to hold them in the highest spiritual regard because their spiritual gift that they have, the gift of pastor-teacher, does not mean they're better than you. It doesn't mean they're more spiritual than you. It means they have a different gift. Now, they might be more mature than you, but they're not more spiritual. If they're filled with the Spirit and you're filled with the Spirit, you're both spiritual. But never run down a pastor. You're asking for trouble from God when you do that. You're asking for divine discipline. In Rule 2, Paul wrote this in verse 13. Not only are you to know them in verse 12, but you are to esteem them. That means you are to regard them or consider them in love. The word regard, hegeomai, in agape. Hegeomai in agape. Personal love, which is the fruit of the Spirit. Remember Galatians 5, the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, long-suffering. A man with a gift of pastor-teacher who has that gift, taught in Ephesians 4.11, is to be held in high regards because of his work, his ergon, his work, his sacrifice, that he's to study and teach, study and teach, study and teach. A real qualified pastor doesn't have a very good social life because he spends most of his time studying and teaching the Bible. You're not to celebrate him because of his image. You're not to celebrate him because of his style. You celebrate him, you regard him, you esteem him, you hold him high because of the content of his message. This particular spiritual gift requires many hours of research, many hours of sacrifice as he studies to understand the scriptures and how they relate to the congregation. I have known congregations that ran preachers off because they did too much teaching, not enough visiting, not enough calling on people and holding people's hand and being people and praying over people. The job of the pastor is to study and teach. The deacons have the job of handling other issues. Now I want to focus on verse 16 through 19, the key verses I'm doing. I'm doing this because my time is limited, but I'd like for you to read for yourself 1 Thessalonians 5, 14 through 15, because these divine instructions are critical for order in the local church. Those verses say warn the troublemakers, encourage the weak in faith, be patient towards all the members, and don't try to repay evil for evil, and follow that which is good. Now, going to verse 16 of 1 Thessalonians 5. Here is the command in verse 16. Two short words. Rejoice evermore. This verb kairo, C-H-A-I-R-O, kairo, is what we call in the morphology of that verb an imperative mood verb. It's a present tense, active voice, imperative mood verb. The active voice says the subject produces the action of the verb. The imperative mood is an absolute, total, divine command. Not only for those in Thessalonica, but for each one of us as well. this word means to be filled with joy what is joy it's the fruit of the spirit ephesians 5 22 cairo the fruit of the spirit this word is just the opposite word of grief and sorrow it implies happiness in every circumstance the lord jesus christ is the source of our joy for those who trust in him Did you know the scriptures even tell us there's joy in heaven when someone gets saved? Listen to Luke 15, 7. I say unto you that likewise joy shall be in heaven, there it is, over one sinner that repenteth, more than over ninety-nine just persons who need no repentance. And then in Luke 15, 10, likewise I say unto you there's joy in the presence of the angels of God over one sinner that repenteth. In our lives, we certainly are to be joyful in our ability to pray for other people. Paul wrote in Philippians 1-4 that always in every prayer of mine for all of you making requests with joy. It's a lot of joy to pray for other people. Our joy is not like laughing at something funny. That's not what it is. Cairo speaks to appreciation. It speaks to confidence in God's plan and in God's provision. So our joy transcends all the earthly things that you can think about. What is this joy? It's an amazing gift from the Holy Spirit. The fruit of the Spirit is love and joy and peace and longsuffering. So joy, critically for you. I'm speaking of what's manifested even in adverse circumstances. Even when things aren't going right, you can still have joy. James 1.12 said, My brethren, count it all joy. There's the word. When you fall into many testings, I mean, if you're sad, if you're angry, if you're frustrated, if you've let the circumstances of your life steal your joy, what does that mean? First of all, it means you've committed middle-attitude sins, and you need to confess those sins to God to rebound those sins and get back in fellowship under the filling of the Holy Spirit. So the first mandate Paul told down here, the imperative mood mandate, rejoice evermore. Continue in an attitude of joy. And then in verse 17 of 1 Thessalonians 5, we have another mandate from God through Paul. Pray without ceasing. The word pray is , and it's a verb, and that verb is also in the imperative mood. It's a command. It's a divine command. Without ceasing does not mean 24-7, doesn't mean you get on your knees 24-7. What does it mean? Simply put, this mandate means don't neglect your prayer life. Don't forget to pray. Unfortunately, here's what I want to tell you, most prayers are not answered. Most prayers are not effective since believers don't follow instructions. Any prayer offered to the throne of God must be done under the filling of the Holy Spirit. If you have unconfessed sin in your life, you quench the power of the Holy Spirit. Thus, that prayer will not be heard. You're telling me some of my prayers won't be heard? Yes, I'm telling you, your prayer will not be heard if you have sin in your life when you pray. In Psalm 66, 18, if I regard iniquity in my heart, the Lord will not hear me. I want you to notice how the Holy Spirit intercedes for us in our prayer life. In Romans 8, 26, Likewise, the Spirit also helps our infirmities, for we know not what we should pray for as we ought, but the Spirit itself makes intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered. If you're not filled with the Spirit, if you've quenched and grieved the Holy Spirit, obviously He can't do His job and intercede for you in prayer. Of course, God hears the prayers of unsaved people when they come to him and ask to be saved. Of course, he hears those. Romans 10, 13 tells us, whoever calls upon the name of the Lord will be saved. But in America, there are many, many people who request prayers for something that may or may not even be God's will. In 1 John 5, 14, and this is the confidence we have in him, that if we ask anything according to his will, he hears us. There will never be a true revival in this nation until believers learn how to pray effectively. Another issue is praying for the wrong person. You can't pray to Jesus. You're not supposed to pray to Jesus. You're to pray to the Father. Our prayers are to be addressed to the Father in the name of the Lord Jesus and in the power of the Holy Spirit. adoration, intercession, supplication. That's the order of our prayer life. Remember Jeremiah 29, 12, then they shall call on me and you shall go and pray unto me and I will hearken unto you. That is if you do the right thing in the right way. I see so many people saying prayers for you, asking for prayers. It's sad to know that so many of those prayers are not even going to be heard because people don't follow instructions. People don't follow the divine command. If you're not filled with the Holy Spirit, I'm telling you this again, if you have unconfessed sin in your life, your prayer will not be answered, will not be heard. Please understand that. Because everybody today wants prayer. Everybody that's on the social internet, pray for me, pray for me, pray for me. Praying for you, that means nothing. That's like a salutation. Like, hello, I hope you do better. Praying for you. If they don't understand how to pray, this prayer will not be effective. So then we move into the next verse, 1 Thessalonians 5, 18. In everything give thanks, for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus for you. Here's the principle. Whatever the circumstances are, whatever the situation may be, that is the divine will for our lives. This verse is another present active imperative verb. means this is a divine mandate. It is a mandate. It's not a request, it's a mandate. When you fail, you sin. So you have some bad situation, you get mad, start spouting off at the mouth, you're sinning, you're angry, you're sinning, you're not giving thanks. Should you thank God if you have a wreck in a car? Well, this verse says, in everything give thanks. Did it say only the good things? No, and the bad things too. What if you go to the doctor and get a bad report? Give thanks. This is the will of God for you. This verse is, again, the imperative mood verb meaning a divine mandate. This is about being grateful. Listen, you're either going to give God thanks or you're going to criticize God when these events occur in your life that appear to cause you trouble. Paul taught us these words in Philippians 4, 6 and 7. Do not be anxious about anything, but in every situation, by prayer and petition with thanksgiving, there it is, present your request to God. And then the peace of God, which transcends all understanding, will guard your hearts and your minds in Christ Jesus. In every situation, Paul said, with thanksgiving, again, in everything give thanks, 1 Thessalonians 5.18. I challenge you today, if you have a situation in your life, like I have in mine sometimes, and they're uncomfortable, they make you angry, they frustrate you, stop feeling sorry for yourself. Stop cropping an attitude of anger and give thanks. Thank you, Father, for letting me have this test. It's a test to see how you handle it. It's a test to see if you're mature enough to take it and move on down the road and not get sidetracked with your temper. You've got to understand that. Every Christian, every one of us face circumstances that are well beyond our control. Our finances, our health, our relationships. Recently, a very, very close friend of mine went through months of intense headaches and pains. No doctor could give them the answer as to why these things were happening. Finally, they discovered a doctor that figured out what it was and it's related to a rare disease in the large arteries of the neck and the head. This person is a mature believer and I would like to quote what they wrote right here concerning this diagnosis. Here's what they wrote. I'm taking my medicines as prescribed and I'm trying to strengthen myself. The best I can do is accept this as from God the Father, approved by the Lord himself, and supported by the Holy Spirit. Did you hear that? The best I can do is accept this as from God the Father, approved by the Lord himself, and supported by the Holy Spirit. This is a wonderful mindset and an example of a believer who uses the faith rest drill. Maybe you yourself are going through some sort of testing. May I ask you, what is your response? Is it fear? Is it anger? Is it some sort of depression? None of those things need to be your attitude. That's not what the Bible says. The Bible says, in everything give thanks. In everything give thanks. In Psalm 56.3, the psalmist wrote this. What time I'm afraid, I will trust in thee. Did you know God does not make mistakes when dealing with his children? In Romans 8, 28, the Bible says, and we know that all things, everything, work together for good to the ones that love God and to them who are called according to his predetermined plan. Notice it says to them that love God. If you don't have personal love for God, all things don't work together for good, work together for bad sometimes. Maybe you're under divine discipline. If you have a personal relationship with the Lord Jesus Christ and you love, as the Bible says, we love him because he first loved us, then all things do work together for good to them that love God. God is mapping your life. He's sending you down the road. He has a plan and a purpose for your life. As it said, they are called to them who are called according to a predetermined plan. All things, everything works together for good. In Isaiah 41.10, fear not, for I'm with you. Do not dismay, be not dismayed, for I am thy God. I will strengthen you. I will help you. I will uphold you with the right hand of my righteousness. What a phenomenal promise. Strengthen, help, uphold, all because of his righteousness. I'm with you. He didn't abandon you. He didn't disregard you. So don't be afraid. and all things give thanks. Finally, let's look at the last mandate found in 1 Thessalonians 5, 19. Quench not the spirit, We start off with the word quench. What exactly does that mean? That Greek word for quench, pronounced sabenu, sabenumi, sabenumi, sabenumi is the word. I'm sorry, I can't pronounce it correctly, but sabenumi. It literally means put out the fire. Don't quench the spirit. Don't put out the fire. This word is followed by the particle me, me, which is a negative particle, which means do not, not, do not put out the fire. So the fact is that this is a present tense verb means they've already began to do this. And it's indicated by the instructions in verses four through eight of this passage. Listen, no church is a perfect church, but every church must operate under divine instructions. And the command to quench not the spirit of God is very important in a local church. When you have bickering, when you have jealousy, when you have inordinate competition, all these things lead to a powerless church that simply has ritual without reality. No prayers are going to be answered, no growth will be evident, no joy is present in the church when the Holy Spirit is quenched. And the same goes for your own personal life. So if you are a believer who never prays except in dire situations, you're never thankful. You ignore the writings of the New Testament. You tolerate evil practices, and then you certainly quench the Holy Spirit. How do you unquench the Holy Spirit? Well, 1 John 1-9 tells us if we confess our sins, he's faithful and just to forgive us of our sins and to purify us from all wrongdoing. The only way you can unquench the Holy Spirit, the only way you get the fire back is to confess your sin. Now, some pastors tolerate evil in their pulpits, and they promote it, and they are nothing but mob psychologists. Stay away from a pastor like that. Find you a pastor who teaches God's Word line by line, word by word, verse by verse, and you will grow to be a mature believer, and you will glorify God to the maximum. I hope this has been instructive and helpful for you. I pray that it was. Until next week, I'm Rick Hughes, your host, and I thank you for listening to The Flatline.
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Thank you for listening to The Floodline with your host, Rick Hughes. If you'd like to contact Rick, please write to him at P.O. Box 100, Cropwell, Alabama, 35054, or online at www.rickhughesministries.org.

In this enlightening episode of The Good News with Angie Austin, listener takeaways center around positive daily habits and the essential role of after-school programs in child development. Angie shares personal anecdotes about the value of forming good habits, emphasizing how small daily actions can lead to significant life improvements. The conversation shifts to exploring the importance of after-school programs, featuring insights from Jody Grant of After School Alliance and Heather Nestle from the New York Life Foundation, discussing the challenges and prospects for expanding these crucial programs.
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Welcome to The Good News with Angie Austin. Now, with The Good News, here's Angie.
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Hello, friend. Angie Austin here with The Good News. The Good News, we have an interview coming up talking about the importance of after-school programs, why they're necessary, etc. And boy, they can really help in communities where kids need to stay out of trouble and offer them a really great place to go and play and study and meet friends and have mentors. So, big fan of that since I was kind of a latchkey kid myself. All right, let's start off, though, with some daily habits that will enrich your life. Daily habits that will enrich your life. I'm trying to get into some habits, by the way, and, you know, doing things repeatedly turns it into a habit. All right, let's start. This is from Mark and Angel. You know I love their website. Are you willing to spend a little of every day like most people won't so you can spend a better part of your life like most people can't? So think about that question for a moment. Let it sink in. We talk to our kids about this all the time. Are you willing to spend a little time every day like most people won't? You're doing things that aren't pleasant, so you can spend a better part of your life doing things that most people can't because they won't make the sacrifices to get to the really good part where you can relax and vacation and do all those things. I mean, if I think about my life now compared to my life growing up, living in Section 8 low-income housing, my mom living paycheck to paycheck, my dad not, you know, he was completely out of the picture for the majority of my childhood after the age of 12 for the majority, you know, for about 30 years, I'd say it was out. And then, you know, my brothers having all their issues with, you know, dropping out of school and drugs and mental illness with the exception of one who did not choose that path. But, yeah, and now, you know, I can travel freely. I mean, you know, I mean, you probably hear me talk about it. I mean, I went from us living paycheck to paycheck and working seven days a week all through high school and college to, you know, I've traveled maybe four times a month. I mean, this month I'm hardly home. So that just is that that's where I now like to spend my money. I don't buy expensive bags. I don't buy expensive jewelry. I spend my money on my kids, their sports, their education. Oh, and I guess home, you know, like a nice home. But that's an investment really, isn't it? Yeah, it is. All right. So in terms of, you know, reaching your goals, doing things sometimes that aren't so pleasant make sense. your life easier later. Failure occurs with all the little daily failures that come together and cause you to fail. Like you keep failing to check your to-do list. You keep failing to make the phone calls you need to. You keep failing to listen to your customers if you're a business owner. You keep failing to do the job that you need to do to make your boss happy. You keep failing to innovate. You keep failing to do the little things that need to be done. And then one day you wake up and you've failed. It's all the little things on a daily basis, your habits, not just one big event, but your habits. I told my friend once, she's like, how do you, work you know like i've worked multiple jobs um when i was in tv news and i might go to different cities like i might anchor in san diego and then do wet weekend weather in la and my friends like how have you been able to do this at such a young age you know to be on air in los angeles at the time um and i said well each day is like a little stepping stone to my goal and each day my just include little things that I need to get done but I said some things might get to put off be put off like my dry cleaning or I might not be able to have a pet or I might not have time to have a boyfriend or I might uh you know not have time to go grocery shopping that week and I might have to just you know run by and get some healthy takeout you know what I mean like sometimes things have to be put on the back burner but according to this life um this Article by Mark and Angel, your life is your business and your habits make or break you one day at a time. Even the seemingly insignificant daily habits you engage in can produce ripples or consequences for better results. or for worse so have you been managing your habits I was much better when I was younger I'll admit and I'm trying to get better again you know just things like little things like keeping up on your dishes making sure you know you can focus better when you keep your room clean like my closet used to be just perfect and now it's like there's an explosion in there and I can't focus on that speaking of focus are you focusing on the positive that's one of the habits that helps you reach your goals Use visual reminders to help you stay on track. I use my calendar. I use my alarm on my phone and I label my alarms to stay on track. A lot of people use the famous to-do list. So practice journaling. That's something I've fallen out of the practice of doing as well. And I've got a whole stack of them right here that I had from my 20s that really kept me on track. Journaling for me is like my way of kind of like doing my prayer time to journaling. Oh, here's a great one. This Jim Stovall stuff falls into this one. Observe or study the work of mentors, regardless of what you're trying to achieve. You can't do it completely alone. It can be hard to learn actionable skills from books, and sometimes the Internet makes it difficult to separate truth from fiction. You need someone who has been where you want to go or they're currently where you want to go, and you need them to show you the way. You need a mentor. Even Jim has accountability partners that he talks to once or twice a month. And then this is another thing that he does that helps him stay on track with his goals. Give thanks before bed. I think he does it when he wakes up in the morning. He does the golden list, the 10 things he's thankful for. And Mark and Angel say, give thanks before bed. Overlooking everything that's wonderful is a tragedy and a very debilitating one. When you get lost in worried thoughts about a life situation you think you should have, you end up missing the beauty of everything you do have. And you'll never be happy if you aren't consciously thankful for the good things in your life. Well, isn't that the truth? A journey of renewing trust in yourself. Renewing trust in yourself is one of the most significant hidden benefits of practicing daily habits. When Angel and I, this is Mark talking, what Angel and I lacked before we learned to implement these kinds of daily habits was the trust that we were actually capable of achieving our goals, of achieving positive results in our lives. So I think that just that setting up these habits, doing things repeatedly, that you don't have to make a decision every day to do the right thing because doing the right thing becomes a habit. It sounds like I'm lecturing you and telling you what to do. No, I need to do these habits again. I don't have – I'm not good at habits. I kind of like – fly by the seat of my pants through life and I don't have like a schedule and I used to have to have a schedule because I worked so much that that set up my schedule so anyway now that my life is a lot looser and I can fly by the seat of my pants I'm learning that I still need to keep up those routines those rituals those things that keep me on the successful track in life and not just kind of spiral or lazy but lazy lazy boy my way into laziness by sitting in the lazy boy of life I hope that all makes sense. I'm trying to help myself as much as I'm trying to help you. You know what I mean? Like I know I need some help with these habits. That's for sure. All right. One thing I mentioned that was important to me was staying busy after school. Now, I worked full time, but a lot of these kids that need these after school programs work. are not old enough to work. And if you're just joining us, this is Angie Austin with the Good News. And today we're talking about kids and the need for after-school programs because a new study finds tens of millions of U.S. kids are without the after-school programs that many families really need. Joining us today... Our two people well-versed in this topic, who will talk more about the recent study, Jody Grant, Executive Director of After School Alliance, and Heather Nestle, President of New York Life Foundation, which supports after school programs. Welcome to both of you. Thank you. Thank you. All right. So let's just start, you know, with an overview of what did your new study find?
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So the After School Alliance, thanks to our partnership with the New York Life Foundation, surveyed over 30,000 parents across America. to get their thoughts on after school. And what we found was that overwhelmingly, parent satisfaction with these programs is through the roof because they keep kids safe, they inspire a life line. But what we've also found is that far too many are being left behind. So, as the parents we spoke to, three out of every four kids does not have access to a program even though their parent wants one. But what we're finding from our parents is that for middle-income parents and low-income parents who desperately want these programs for their kids, the biggest barriers are affordability, accessibility, it might be a transportation issue or the program in their community The programs have huge wait lists, and parents overwhelmingly support public investment at the local, state, and national level to use taxpayer dollars to help their kids attend these programs, not just to keep them safe and learning, but because they know it is going to help them succeed in life.
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How about progress on creating more programs?
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So unfortunately, what we're seeing is that because costs have gone up and the public investments have not kept pace with inflation, that more middle-income families are struggling. The good news is that we are seeing more and more states, including Colorado and Oregon, where they're putting state dollars into after-school programs. And I think that's a huge opportunity, both local governments and states, as well as just community players at the local level, to really help reach more of our kids in these programs.
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And what needs to really occur to fill that gap and make these after-school programs available to more students?
SPEAKER 05 :
So the good news is parents want this and the public wants it. We polled voters right after the election. 90% of voters, doesn't matter, Republican, Independent, Democratic, they say after school programs are an absolute necessity in their community and they want to see increase public investment in our communities to provide after-school programs. So now we need to make that happen. We need our policymakers to recognize that these investments save money short-term and long-term by helping our kids, our families, our Main Street businesses, and we need to do more.
SPEAKER 03 :
And let's talk a little bit about the New York Life Foundation and the support of the after-school programs, and why does it focus on programs for middle school students in particular?
SPEAKER 04 :
You know, posted $60 million in supporting after-school, and it's really because it ties to our mission. You know, we're here to provide financial and security and peace of mind, and after-school does that. You know, as Jody mentioned, parents desperately need these programs. Eighty-two percent of them said that it helps them to keep their job or to work more hours, and 88 percent said that it actually helps to boost their productivity at work because they don't have to stress over where their kids are and what they're doing. And this really aids local economies when more people can work. and when kids, frankly, are safe and staying out of trouble. Our focus on middle school is really about helping to get middle schoolers to high school on time and on grade level because research shows that ninth grade is a pivotal year for students. If they can get through ninth grade on grade level, they're four times more likely to graduate high school on time and go on to post-secondary success. That means they're also going to have financial security across their lifetime and, again, help strengthen the economies of all of their local communities.
SPEAKER 03 :
That totally makes sense. That's a good stat about ninth grade. I didn't know that. That's pretty interesting. But it makes sense. If they feel comfortable and do well in their first year of high school, they're more likely to stay. And the safety, you know, ease of mind for the parents knowing their kids are safe, I'm sure, is like, I mean, come on, if the kids are safe, they're going to do so much better in school as well. All right. So anything else you want to add? And I also want to get a website for more info for listeners.
SPEAKER 05 :
That was a great point because our students that are in after school are more likely to come to school and we have a problem with absenteeism, stay in school and graduate. And your listeners can get more information at afterschoolalliance.org. We have national information, statewide information, and if they sign up for alerts, they can use their voices to help us create more after school opportunities.
SPEAKER 03 :
Heather, do you want to add anything? I think it's cool. Jodi, obviously, is with After School Alliance, but how cool that you have a job with New York Life Foundation, which, interesting little side note, I worked for you guys right after college, and it was actually a great job. Then I went into TV news, but it paid a lot better than TV news, let's put it that way. I had lots of connections in my town to meet people who did need insurance, but what a cool job to be able to really just help people, you know? I mean, that's so cool.
SPEAKER 04 :
It's true. And, you know, I mean, it's what we try to do throughout the company, you know, with our products and services, but the extension to the foundation is really getting to local communities and providing the things that we know people need. But I was just going to add, you know, to piggyback on what Jodi said, you know, after-school programs not only encourage attendance, they boost academic performance. And they encourage fun. You know, it's just a place where kids can explore different kinds of things and learn while decreasing their screen time, which is also something else parents really, really crave. So there's just so much good to come out of these programs. And I think it's remarkable that across all political and geographic spectrums, people are willing to put their money toward this. They're willing to put their tax dollars there.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, thank you to both of you. And thanks for all you're doing for the kids. Thank you.
SPEAKER 04 :
Thanks for your time.
SPEAKER 03 :
You bet.
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Hello there, friend. Angie Austin here with the good news. The good news is we have another wonderful author joining us today. The book is Cherish or Perish, Strengthen Your Intellect, Save the World, written by Prabha Khan. Welcome, Prabha. Thanks for having me, Mishra. All right. So I am fascinated because you remind me a little bit of my father. He was always looking to greater his mind and always reading new books and talking about new ideas. And I just really enjoyed a lot. I didn't always agree with everything that he had to say, but I so admire that in his mid 80s, he was passionate. uh you know working out every day he did tai chi every day he played chess every day and so i love that his mind he was always uh trying to expand it and that's the feeling i get from your book so give us an overview of cherish or perish strengthen your intellect save the world
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah, first of all, it's nice to hear about your dad, and I'm honored that you see this book, The Thoughts Resemble Your Dad's Views. But the book, Cherish or Perish, primarily talks about the importance of human intellect. The way you use your intellect, it can take you to human perfection. If you don't use your intellect, it can lead you to ultimate devastation. That's the core message of the book.
SPEAKER 03 :
And I love when I'm, you know, when I was researching your book that you talk about fulfillment, you know, and really reaching your full potential. And it's far beyond just intelligence or knowledge that your intellect is more in depth. It is. disciplined, you know, takes work on your part. It's just not just kind of like floating through life, not making any effort at all to work on your intellect. So talk about some of the things that you recommend in your book in terms of increasing our intellect.
SPEAKER 02 :
First of all, when we discuss about intellect, we need to know what our mind is. Generally, there is a misconception or people interchange the word mind instead of intellect. So if we understand what the mind is, then we'll be in a better position to understand what is an intellect and how to strengthen and develop the intellect.
SPEAKER 03 :
Now, when you talk about our intellect and strengthening it, what are the benefits? Talk about some of the things that result. Well, maybe we should talk about how to strengthen your intellect first and then the benefits. So how do we strengthen our intellect?
SPEAKER 02 :
Okay. If you want to strengthen your muscle, where do you start it in the first place? Oh, working out. Working out. So you have to use your existing muscles, correct? Correct. So just as for you to strengthen your muscles, you start with your existing muscle and do the workouts. Likewise, every human being has a fragment of intellect. So they will have to start using the intellect, the existing intellect first. And how to use the existing intellect is first, question everything. Don't take anything for granted. So that's the first step. So anything is presented to you, you will have to question that. Apply that with reason and logic within your personality. That's one way. The next way is to have a relatively disciplined and regulated life, you know, because unregulated life breathes, strengthens your mind. If you have a strong mind, if your mind is uncontrollable mind, then the intellect will not have the capacity to control a devastating mind. So when you live a relatively disciplined life, there is a good chance the mind follows the instructions of the intellect. The next thing is when you take up any profession, when you take up any studies, these days the studies are generally towards utilitarian oriented. You do a specific study only to make a living, make money, you know? Yes. So you need to take education in a liberal way, liberal way in the sense for that particular field of study, and you study in depth, not just to graduate, get a job, make money, make a living. Even animals do that. Even animals just make a living. They make an effort to make food and have a family. So if we are just doing that, we reduce ourselves to the level of animals. But human beings, we have an intellect. So, by studying the subject liberally, there is a good chance your intellect can be strengthened. There are other ways as well. There are a couple of other ways, but if you have that kind of time, we can discuss.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, so obviously studying things you have a passion for, not just going through life. And if you just live a life that doesn't have any purpose, your mind is taken over, not your intellect, that your intellect pushes you to strive for more. Like if you want more, then you're constantly working each day to improve your intellect. And that also improves your relationships and your knowledge. So, yeah, some other ways to increase your intellect. That's definitely interesting to me.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah. So when you when you take up education, I said liberal education. But how do you approach the liberal education is in the first place, you gain knowledge, gain knowledge in the sense you just absorb information in whatever subjects or field of study that you take up. You gain information. But when you gain the information, this information is always with some doubts. It's not straight away you understand everything. So any knowledge that you gain, it begins with knowledge full of doubts. So the next step that you do is you apply your intellect, existing intellect, and reflect on what you studied. So the second step is reflection. First is study. The next step is reflection. Reflection meaning putting the knowledge... to test of reason and logic. So when you apply that knowledge and put under the test of reason and logic, you will have doubtless knowledge. That is the second step. First, knowledge with doubt. After you employ your intellect, you will have doubtless knowledge. The third step is contemplate on the doubtless knowledge that you have gained. When you contemplate, there is always a gap between what you know and what you are. In terms of value systems that we study, you can be eloquent in various value systems, but the personal life that you live could be far away from what you preach. Isn't it? In many cases.
SPEAKER 03 :
Now, in terms of outside distractions in the world, obviously a lot of these things, especially that, well, all of us, but young people have distracting them. Those things are keeping them from strengthening their intellect, because if they're watching TikTok videos for two hours, That's not really strengthening their intellect very much.
SPEAKER 02 :
So that's another thing you can do some kind of a digital curfew to yourself. When you go to bed, your phone should be in the next room. That's one kind of thing. But coming back to the discussion about contemplation, when you do contemplation, contemplation is reflecting on that doubtless knowledge again and again. So that will help. To bridge the gap between your knowledge and wisdom. Bridge the gap between what you know and what you are. When you study something, when you know something, you want to become that. So by contemplation, you will gain more wisdom, thereby your intellect gets strengthened. That's another way. And the final way to strengthen the intellect is to do a little bit of introspection before you go to sleep.
SPEAKER 03 :
introspection is interesting. My friend, he does something real simple called the golden list. And he goes through the 10 things he's thankful for, which generally involves things that he has maybe come into contact with that day. Like if we do an interview, like I might be on his golden list. So it does have something to do with this day and has some introspection involved. Now, if we do all these things and we strengthen our intellect, we make an attempt to really make our life have purpose and to make a difference and to Increase our knowledge. How does this increase our feeling of well-being and our relationships, and how does it improve our life?
SPEAKER 02 :
In terms of the reason this book helps on developing and strengthening your intellect is every human being wants to be a little more happier than what he or she is today. Isn't it? Everybody wants to be a little more happy.
SPEAKER 03 :
I like that. I like that everyone wants to be a little bit more happy than they are today. That's such a simple, true statement.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah. So for that to happen, we will have to do a little bit of anatomical study of what happiness is, you know. So It starts, as I said, the mind is the seat of your desires and emotions. So you will have to analyze one desire. So one desire amounts to a stream of thought flow towards one object or being. Do you agree with that? A steady stream of thought flow towards an object or being. Correct?
SPEAKER 03 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 02 :
If you want to define a desire. So When someone is happy, what exactly happens is when they acquire that object or desire, the thought currents associated with this particular desire gets nullified or satiated, or those thought currents disappear. When those thought currents disappear, you feel a sense of happiness, correct? Can you relate to this?
SPEAKER 03 :
Yes, absolutely.
SPEAKER 02 :
so this is with regard to one desire so now we talked about the mind the mind is seat of all your desires so mind as its nature it wants more and more and more in life it's like fire so when you have a stronger intellect the intellect has the capacity to moderate control and regulate the mind in other words intellect will supervise the mind, it decides how much desires its personality can entertain. So that's where the strength of the intellect is very important for the mind to be under control. So your desires are under check. And the intellect also has the capacity to fulfill those desires systematically.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah. So that's where if it is not controlled, that's where people go through stress. When the intellect is not strong enough, when too many desires get accumulated in the personality, and all those desires want it to be fulfilled, right? If you entertain a desire, why do you entertain a desire? You want the desire to be fulfilled, isn't it? So when you entertain a multitude of desires beyond your capacity, and when all those desires want fructification at the same instant, You can imagine the state of the mind. That's the time the person goes through stress.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay, that increases stress.
SPEAKER 02 :
That increases the stress, and the only way is to have a stronger intellect. It's not that we are advocating not to have desires. As a human being, you can have all the desires in the world, but you must have the capacity to fulfill them.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yes, yes. And I really appreciate you joining me. We're running out of time. You know, as a Christian, I think all of these things really mold with, you know, my beliefs as well, because I am constantly trying to be, you know, a better person. But this is a little bit even more than, you know, more edging on how my dad lived, where each day was really to increase his intellect. I really like, you know, a lot of your ideas and, you know, how you're helping people to live a better life, really.
SPEAKER 02 :
Definitely, definitely, absolutely, yes.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, Prabha, thank you so much. And if people want to get in touch with you and they want to find your book, Cherish or Perish, Strengthen Your Intellect, Save the World, what's the best website?
SPEAKER 02 :
The website is Vedantic.org, Vedantic.org, and they can also find it on Amazon. But in case your listeners want to have a copy of the book, I'm more than happy to send them free of cost if they can just shoot me an email. It's live at Vedantic.org. And I'll be happy to send a free copy of the book to their mail.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, thank you so much. Again, the book is Cherish or Perish, Strengthen Your Intellect, Save the World. Prabha, thank you so much.
SPEAKER 06 :
Thank you. You're welcome. Thank you for listening to The Good News with Angie Austin on AM670 KLTT.

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It's his life mission to make bad decisions. It's time for Florida Man.
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Man, I got we got some crazy headlines. This one, though. I mean, the guy committed a crime. And I'm tempted to say no, but he did bring the car back that he stole because there was a kid in it. So a Florida man was accused of stealing a vehicle at a gas station and then he immediately returned it once he discovered there was a child inside. Fifty three year old William Mullis was arrested after he stole a car at a gas station in Brevard County. There's surveillance footage of it. There's no question. There was a one year old in the backseat while the owner went inside the convenience store, I guess, to pay. He seemed throwing the car in reverse, backing it into the parking lot. as the mother who drove the car rushes to the driver's side door. He was seen fleeing the area on foot, later arrested. He's behind bars with no bond. It's not worth it, parents. Take him inside. It is not worth it. It is not worth it. It is not worth it. It is not worth it. I cannot say it enough. We do not live in the world that we lived in 40-whatever years ago when your parents could do it. It's not the same. You can't do that. Also, let's see here. Oh, my gosh. I don't want to read the dog one. Yeah.
SPEAKER 06 :
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SPEAKER 10 :
So, so you guys are, Oh gosh, I can't even stand. Uh, they passed a lot of laws in Florida about this. You remember the sweet pop that was tied to a fence to drown. He was abandoned during a hurricane during hurricane Milton. Remember the guy was cleared. The guy accused of doing it was cleared of charges. Um, I he should never be allowed to own an animal again. He child. He tied this Giovanni Garcia's third degree felony charge was thrown out when they said they didn't have enough sufficient evidence to verify that he was responsible. You got to be kidding me. It was a bull terrier pup. The truck. The pup's name was Trooper. He was barking desperately for help. He was in stomach water, stomach deep water. Hurricane Milton was dumping tons of rain. He was saved, thank heavens, and rehomed. But the guy who did it, you can't. You've got to be kidding me. Oh, my gosh. Fates, do your thing, man. Do your thing. That's just horrible. Let's talk about the Florida man who was dubbed the Cuban Tarzan who said he caught a record-sized iguana. I love this. Oh, my gosh. They have a real iguana problem down there because I guess people got them as pets and then they let them loose and now they've got to round them up. Florida man who goes by the nickname literally of Cuban Tarzan. He apparently got one of the biggest iguanas ever seen in the state. Miami New Times says Andrew Morales, who tracks, that's his job, he tracks and removes the animals. It is the length of his body. This guy's over six feet. It legit looks like a Godzilla. Florida Fish and Wildlife confirmed that they can reach five feet in length and weigh up to 17 pounds. This thing looks like it's about 17 pounds. That it's pretty, that's pretty crazy. Uh, man alive. That's something else. Uh, also let's see here. I got a couple of other ones. A, um, We also have the Florida man who was arrested for online threats against his employer, Amazon. That's never a smart thing to do anything like that. And they have they have some very they have some. This was under the Rick Scott regime. They have laws on that stuff, particularly Florida enhancement for charges, things like that, that relates to threats online. America's tap water is a cocktail of heavy metals and toxins, the result of corroded pipes that we should have replaced decades ago. Let me just ask anybody in Flint, Michigan. You got lead, heavy metals, rust, basically liquid poison right out the tap. So when I tried Cove Pure on my counter, it was so easy. No plumber, no drilling. You just plug it in and pick your water temperature on the touch screen. And honestly, it actually tastes like water, not like death. So that's why I use the Cove Pure water purifier to keep my family safe. Unlike the government, Copier actually does its job. Lead in your water doesn't stop at a gross taste. It can actually cause a host of serious medical issues. But yeah, sure, go ahead, trust the city with your kid's health. I mean, what could go wrong? Copier's ClearWave technology removes up to 99.9% of contaminants, so don't wait for the government to help. Take back control of your family's health and finally drink water the way that it was meant to be. Visit covepeer.com slash Dana for $200 off. That's covepeer.com slash Dana.
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I think it's a joke. I looked at the people, they're not representative of this country. And I looked at all the brand new signs paid for, I guess it was paid for by Soros and other radical left lunatics. It looks like it was, we're checking it out. The demonstrations were very small, very ineffective, and the people were whacked out. When you look at those people, those are not representative of the people of our country. I mean, think about it. How in the world are you having a no kings protest? If there was a king, you wouldn't be able to have it, right?
SPEAKER 10 :
I mean, think about monarchy everywhere else. My gosh, if you say something mean in the UK, they come and arrest you. I don't like what you said on the Twitters, Cain. Oh, going to send the police. Going to send the bobbies to come and get you. Take you away forever. Welcome back to the program. Dana with you. I have no idea what's happening. It's fall. It's not a thousand eleven degrees. So we're all in a little bit better mood. You don't realize we slave away for you under these lights. You know, it's not all like, you know, glitter and kittens. It's really not. I'm joking. Welcome back. You can also join the chat at Rumble and check us, watch us do the radio show channel 347 DirecTV. But yeah, the no Kings thing, I didn't have anything interrupted this weekend, Cain. Most of it was legal study because I've got a debate coming up. And then I did partake of a bit of Oktoberfest per my husband's German heritage because he has to wear the hat and the whole. He does the whole. He's very German.
SPEAKER 06 :
I had chicken wings and watched football. Nothing was interrupted.
SPEAKER 10 :
I had schnitzel and strudel and a bunch of other things.
SPEAKER 06 :
And I'm jealous.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, all the German carbs, all of them. And then an ACDC cover band because, you know, it's Texas. God bless America. But I didn't see any No King's stuff. I don't even think I saw anybody with blue hair. Did you have any activities interrupted by No King's stuff, Cain?
SPEAKER 06 :
No, not at all.
SPEAKER 10 :
Steve, I'm curious. You're out there on the eastern seaboard in the armpit of America in D.C. Beautiful architecture there. Did you have any of your weekend activities interrupted by any multiple colored hair people in the streets?
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I went golfing in the morning, so I was able to get out of there before it started and I stayed out of it.
SPEAKER 10 :
Look at you. Smart man. Smart. It's like also the most East Coast thing I think I've ever heard. I was golfing in the morning. Just stayed away from the protest till till then. Smart. Yeah, I didn't see. Apparently they were out and about. I did see some photos. We do have some video. There's one video and I'm going to work and we're going to switch here and get into some of this other stuff, too. But I wanted to call out where. Oh, goodness. It was the one. we have a million of them we have a lot of really good audio today it's like 11 to cut 11 million thousand cane uh but it's the i guess they're not into gun control anymore because they were talking about shooting people i'm not kidding they were talking about that uh and then you also had yeah this is this is audio soundbite 23 this is in seattle so the no kings guy he's talking about killing people already can they go for a day without obsessing over killing people listen
SPEAKER 03 :
Who are you going to kill? Nazis. Who do you define as a Nazi? What do you mean? In this context, who's a Nazi? Stephen Miller's a Nazi. So you're going to kill Stephen Miller? If I had a chance, yeah, I would. I don't know if that's something I'd say on camera, bro.
SPEAKER 10 :
There's the picnic blanket lady. Wow. You know why they say this stuff on camera and they don't care? Because they haven't been able to be touched until now. Because there was no accountability in law and order. There was none of it. No accountability. I mean, my gosh, you had leftists burning down churches in D.C. and people got wrists slapped. I tweeted out one over the weekend as well where someone was talking about shooting someone else. I think it was like Portland or Seattle. I had reposted it on X and it's a video of a guy saying, talking about you got to get a gun and go and start killing. I mean, I'm not kidding. This is some of the stuff that they were talking about at these things. It's wild. 24, cut 24. This lady had no idea, no idea what she was talking about. This is some Kamala Harris word salad level. Check this.
SPEAKER 04 :
So what brings you out today?
SPEAKER 17 :
No King's Day.
SPEAKER 04 :
And why specifically are you out supporting no King's Day?
SPEAKER 17 :
I think protest is important.
SPEAKER 04 :
Why are you protesting?
SPEAKER 17 :
How much time do you have?
SPEAKER 04 :
A couple minutes. What's the main reason you're out here protesting President Trump?
SPEAKER 17 :
I don't agree with a lot of the decisions that are being made.
SPEAKER 04 :
Is there any decision in particular you disagree with?
SPEAKER 17 :
Okay, so I would start with... Yeah. Well... Yeah. I don't even think it's appropriate for me to have this interview. Wow.
SPEAKER 10 :
What? Because you don't know what you're talking about? In Chicago, they had. Sorry, this was in Chicago. I put this in. I had tweeted this over the weekend where they had one of the one of the leaders, one of the activists speaking in front of him. He said, you got to grab a gun and you got to turn guns on the fascist system. I mean, can we have a day without liberal violence? No, no. Do we have this? Go ahead and place. This is rough. Listen.
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You got to grab a gun. We got to turn around the guns on this fascist system. These ice Asians got to get shot and wiped out.
SPEAKER 10 :
Wow. So wait, I got a question. So that was in Chicago. So they're not for gun control anymore. Oh, interesting. Oh, what? OK. Yeah. All right. I see what you're saying. Violent. I really I really feel like leftist always. I don't know. I mean, when they tell you that they want you dead, you need to believe them, guys. You need to believe them. I'm just saying this is how the left has always been for forever with this stuff. Oh, my gosh. There's more, though, too. We got so much. Then there's audio. This is cut 29. A No Kings protester with a Mexican flag. Watch what she does with here. This is cut 29. classy. Just disgusting. I have never and I have some people on the right that get mad at me because when I get mad, there's no going back. It takes a lot to get me really enraged, like truly enraged. I've never been so angry that I or unreasonable or without ration that I thought that The only way that I could be clearly heard was through violence. And I have never been, I can separate a person from a political belief unless they want to disarm me and then it's on. If you disagree with me on taxation, you're horribly mathematically illiterate, but that's okay. You know, I'll pray for you. If you disagree with me on things like EVs or, you know, a number of domestic policy issues, I just do not feel whatever they feel that... gets me wound up to a point where I would behave that way. When you lose control, think about this. People who lose control of their emotions are weak. Now, that's not to say you should be a robot and never demonstrate or exhibit any kind of emotional empathy at all. But people who lose their cool like this are weak. Acting with emotion like that is not a sign of strength. It's a lack of complete self-discipline. It is a weakness. It's sad. I see a lot of very weak, like personal constitution, weak people. People who are not as educated as they want you to think. People who want to be taken care of. They want to be coddled. Weakness. It's our friends over at Kel-Tec, the KS7 Gen 2 shotgun. You guys are familiar with Kel-Tec. It's one of the latest in evolution for home defense, and it's the K7 Gen 2, packed with upgrades. You've got a five-slot Picatinny-style accessory rail. You can add grips underneath lights, keep it flush and sleek with a cap. It's a smoother pump action. for a faster, cleaner cycling. Plus you got enhanced durability. All of the original KS7 advantages are still there. Ultra lightweight at just under seven pounds unloaded. Compact bullpup design. You got maneuverability in tight spaces, ambidextrous downward shell ejection, seven plus one capacity as well. It's a go-to for home defense, but good for range days. And you know, anywhere in between works well for both season shooters and first timers. It's the KS7 It's the Gen 2. Also check out the Defender package as well. MSRP is just $639, so it's well within accessibility range. It's from Kel-Tec.
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I have questions. New York City Wikipedia conference was halted when a, quote, non-offending pedophile, end quote, stormed the stage and pointed the gun at his own head.
SPEAKER 06 :
That's oxymoronic.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah. Connor Weston, 27, apparently had a revolver and he said, I'm a non-contact pedophile. They had a wiki conference staff had to tackle and disarm him. He was taken into custody. Uh, What is non-offending? Don't even. Stop it. I honestly think some people are like, I'm going to be transparent and say this kind of stuff because they're as a tactic to mainstream this depravity. It's really what it is. Let's see. Poor seniors are dying up to nine years sooner than the wealthier ones. And then USA Today is like, how to not be one of them. Make money. I know. You know, a lot of it is about preventative care, too. And I feel like the article really glosses over that in favor of establishing a narrative that's very Marxist in terms of cash flow. But I digress. Your lawn wants you to mow your fall leaves, says an expert. They're saying put down the rake. They said that the tedious chore of raking leaves, don't do it, and you can just mow them into your yard. I don't know. Yeah, it is. I don't know why people don't do that anyway. That's always been a big thing with, like, my folks.
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SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, I mean, you know, true point. Also, six... Oh, I don't even know what this is. I will... One of the things we are going to talk about later, though... And I'll play the video later. A whale shark reached the shores of Gaza. I didn't know all about the whale shark thing. They're like apparently very rare. And apparently this whale shark, it got close to the Gazan shore. It's very rare. It's a symbol of wonder, all this kind of stuff. And it took the Gazans like 20 minutes to pull it out of the water and beat it to death. It's on video. Actually, should we play the video? Do we have a second? We should maybe. Yeah, we got it. It's cut $11,000. It's actually cut $43,000. Yeah, this is what we're talking about. Pulled out of the sea by fishermen and then this happened. So it's totally dead. It's like a wonder of the world. Some people were saying that they don't know if it was hunted or if it was pulled ashore. Regardless, it was butchered apparently and there's a lot of reactions to it. It's an endangered whale shark. And they're not normally near the coast in the Mediterranean, near the coast of Israel or Gaza. And it's like, you know, largest fish in the world, basically. So there. That's kind of sad. It finally goes up. It's not Jaws. It's, you know, people. Dun it. Dun it. Oh, no, you're in the shores. You're near the shallows of the Mediterranean. Go the other way. Can we talk about the Louvre for a moment? Oh, man. I just... Who's in charge of security over there? Who does that?
SPEAKER 06 :
Pink Panther?
SPEAKER 10 :
Apparently. It gets crazier. So the alarm, I don't know if you, this is wild. The alarm for the Louvre. that connected the window doors. So the burglars, if you are not following the story, literally in broad daylight in the span of four minutes, a group of thieves came in 270 yards from the Mona Lisa and stole all of these like jewels that were in Napoleon's family, right? Stole all of these like super expensive jewels and the loops closed. They rode a basket lift up the outside of it Forced to open a window, got in there, smashed the display cases, and then they fled with all this fancy stuff, right? They got all kind of stuff that they stole, jewels that, you know, were going to be just broken up and immediately just parsed out. They, 8,708 diamonds, 34 sapphires, 38 emeralds, and 212 pearls stolen. The pearl and diamond tiara came of Empress Eugenie. The large diamond corsage bow. The brooch known as the reliquary of Empress Eugenie. Emerald necklace from the Marie-Louise Paru. And then you had a whole bunch of other stuff. Wow. They got the crown. They dropped a crown on their way out and it was damaged. A lot of these, they said, are, they can't even estimate how valuable they are. And they said they're all unsellable because they're world renowned. So they're going to have to destroy all of these pieces and resell the stones. That's what they're doing. Because you can't just like resell like the necklace. Everyone's going to know it's been stolen. This is going to be a lot of money. What gets me is how in the world this was able to happen. So this is what the Louvre, this is the actual museum. This is what they said. They tweeted this today. After the robbery that the Louvre suffered yesterday, the museum regrets to inform you that it will remain closed to the public today. Visitors who have already booked their tickets will be refunded. after the robbery came you mean the robbery in which someone literally got into a basket like a group of kittens and were hauled up the side of the louvre and then they busted in a window like in front of everybody but they were all in high vis vests apparently and what is it does that if you see somebody in a high vis vest are you just like oh that person's official That's an official person doing official business. They're doing official stuff. I am fascinated by this stuff. It is one of the funniest. I mean, it's I don't think they're ever going to get any of these jewels back. But I mean, guys, they got in a basket and they hauled it up old style up the side of the building. What in the world? And no one saw it. No one saw. Now, some people were saying that like the story, the alarm that was connected, it had been out of service. Apparently, they turned off the alarm on the little window door because of repeated false triggers came. Oh, so the burglars knew that it wasn't working.
SPEAKER 06 :
So don't fix the triggers. Just leave the alarm off.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah. Oh, no. We should not fix what is triggering the alarm. We should... Oh, no, no. We should leave the alarm off. Let's go get a baguette. Oh, instead of fixing it, let's just unplug it. I don't know. I got... I think that there was an inside job. I think that somebody on the inside was working with them. Because how do you not... I'm just... I don't know. I don't know, man. So they I guess it's still closed today. The Louvre. But that's a lot of jewels. That is some real. Yeah. You know that meme? I don't know if you guys have seen this before. It is a meme of a door lock, like one of the latch locks. But instead of the metal latch, there's a Cheeto in place. This is like the security of the Louvre, apparently. Oh, no, no. Just don't fix it. Just put that cheeto. Oh, the cheeto will keep all the people. Oh, wee, wee. That's, I don't know, man. But why is it so closed, though? I'm curious. Like, that's a pretty big thing.
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I think it's a joke. I looked at the people, they're not representative of this country. And I looked at all the brand new signs paid for, I guess it was paid for by Soros and other radical left lunatics. It looks like it was, we're checking it out. The demonstrations were very small, very ineffective, and the people were whacked out. When you look at those people, those are not representative of the people of our country.
SPEAKER 23 :
I mean, think about it.
SPEAKER 03 :
How in the world are you having a no kings protest? If there was a king, you wouldn't be able to have it, right?
SPEAKER 13 :
I mean, think about monarchy everywhere else. My gosh, if you say something mean in the UK, they come and arrest you. I don't like what you said on the Twitters, Cain. Oh, going to send the police. Going to send the bobbies to come and get you. Take you away forever. Welcome back to the program. Dana with you. I have no idea what's happening. It's fall. It's not a thousand eleven degrees. So we're all in a little bit better mood. You don't realize we slave away for you under these lights. You know, it's not all like, you know, glitter and kittens. It's really not. I'm joking. Welcome back. You can also join the chat at Rumble and check us, watch us do the radio show channel 347 DirecTV. But yeah, the no kings thing, I didn't have anything interrupted this weekend, Cain. Most of it was legal study because I've got a debate coming up. And then I did partake of a bit of Oktoberfest per my husband's German heritage because he has to wear the hat and the whole. He does the whole. He's very German.
SPEAKER 09 :
I had chicken wings and watched football. Nothing was interrupted.
SPEAKER 13 :
I had schnitzel and strudel and a bunch of other things.
SPEAKER 09 :
And I'm jealous.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, all the German carbs, all of them. And then an ACDC cover band because, you know, it's Texas. God bless America. But I didn't see any No King's stuff. I don't even think I saw anybody with blue hair. Did you have any activities interrupted by No King's stuff, Cain? No.
SPEAKER 09 :
No, not at all.
SPEAKER 13 :
Steve, I'm curious. You're out there on the eastern seaboard in the armpit of America in D.C. Beautiful architecture there. Did you have any of your weekend activities interrupted by any multiple colored hair people in the streets?
SPEAKER 18 :
I went golfing in the morning, so I was able to get out of there before it started, and I stayed out of it.
SPEAKER 13 :
Look at you. Smart man. Smart. It's like also the most East coast thing I think I've ever heard. I was golfing in the morning. Just stayed away from the protest till, till then. It's smart. Yeah. I didn't see, apparently they were out and about. I did see some photos. We do have some video. Uh, there's one video and I'm going to work and we're going to switch here and get into some of this other stuff too, but I wanted to call out where, Oh goodness. It was the one, uh, we have a million of them we have a lot of really good audio today it's like 11 to cut 11 million thousand cane uh but it's the i guess they're not into gun control anymore because they were talking about shooting people i'm not kidding they were talking about that uh and then you also had yeah this is this is audio soundbite 23 this is in seattle so the no kings guy he's talking about killing people already can they go for a day without obsessing over killing people listen
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Who are you going to kill? Nazis. Who do you define as a Nazi? What do you mean? It's pretty... In this context, who's a Nazi? Stephen Miller's a Nazi. So you're going to kill Stephen Miller? If I had a chance, yeah, I would. Wow.
SPEAKER 17 :
I don't know if that's something I'd say on camera, bro.
SPEAKER 13 :
There's the picnic blanket lady. Wow. You know why they say this stuff on camera and they don't care? Because they haven't been able to be touched until now. Because there was no accountability in law and order. There was none of it. No accountability. I mean, my gosh, you had leftists burning down churches in D.C. and people got wrists slapped. I tweeted out one over the weekend as well where someone was talking about shooting someone else. I think it was like Portland or Seattle. I had reposted it on X and it's a video of a guy saying, talking about you got to get a gun and go and start killing. I mean, I'm not kidding. This is some of the stuff that they were talking about at these things. It's wild. And 24, cut 24, this lady had no idea, no idea what she was talking about. This is some Kamala Harris word salad level. Check this.
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So what brings you out today?
SPEAKER 23 :
No King's Day.
SPEAKER 07 :
And why specifically are you out supporting no King's Day?
SPEAKER 23 :
I think protest is important.
SPEAKER 07 :
Why are you protesting?
SPEAKER 23 :
How much time do you have?
SPEAKER 07 :
A couple minutes. And what's the main reason you're out here protesting President Trump?
SPEAKER 23 :
I don't agree with a lot of the decisions that are being made.
SPEAKER 07 :
Is there any decision in particular you disagree with?
SPEAKER 23 :
Okay, so I would start with... Yeah. Well... Yeah. I don't even think it's appropriate for me to have this interview. Wow.
SPEAKER 13 :
What? Because you don't know what you're talking about? In Chicago, they had. Sorry, this was in Chicago. I put this in. I had tweeted this over the weekend where they had one of the one of the leaders, one of the activists speaking in front of him. He said, you got to grab a gun and you got to turn guns on the fascist system. I mean, can we have a day without liberal violence? No, no. Do we have this? Go ahead and place. This is rough. Listen.
SPEAKER 10 :
You got to grab a gun. We got to turn around the guns on this fascist system. These ICE agents got to get shot and wiped out.
SPEAKER 13 :
Wow. So wait, I got a question. So that was in Chicago. So they're not for gun control anymore.
SPEAKER 09 :
Oh, interesting.
SPEAKER 13 :
Oh, what? Okay. Yeah. All right. I see what you're saying. Violent. I really feel like leftist always. I don't know. I mean, when they tell you that they want you dead, you need to believe them, guys. You need to believe them. I'm just saying this is how the left has always been for forever with this stuff. Oh, my gosh. There's more, though, too. We got so much. Then there's audio. This is cut. Twenty nine. A no Kings protester with a Mexican flag. Watch what she does with here. This is cut. Twenty nine.
SPEAKER 10 :
Hey. You ever heard of those? You fat ass.
SPEAKER 13 :
classy. She pretended to be a Kirk thing. Just disgusting. I have never and I have some people on the right that get mad at me because when I get mad, there's no going back. It takes a lot to get me really enraged, like truly enraged. I've never been so angry that I or unreasonable or without ration that I thought that The only way that I could be clearly heard was through violence. And I have never been, I can separate a person from a political belief unless they want to disarm me and then it's on. If you disagree with me on taxation, you're horribly mathematically illiterate, but that's okay. You know, I'll pray for you. If you disagree with me on things like EVs or a number of domestic policy issues, I just do not feel whatever they feel that – gets me wound up to a point where I would behave that way. When you lose control, think about this. People who lose control of their emotions are weak. Now, that's not to say you should be a robot and never demonstrate or exhibit any kind of emotional empathy at all. But people who lose their cool like this are weak. Acting with emotion like that is not a sign of strength. It's a lack of complete self-discipline. It is a weakness. It's sad. I see a lot of very weak, like personal constitution, weak people. People who are not as educated as they want you to think. People who want to be taken care of. They want to be coddled. Weakness. And then... We're going to come back to this. You also have this, too. Gosh, we have a lot of good stuff. This is audio soundbite one. POTUS blasted Zoran Mandani. Now, over the weekend, I tweeted out he was campaigning, campaigning with one of the unindicted co-conspirators from the 1993 World Trade Center bombing. This is crazy. This guy, this imam, Siraj Wahaj, Zohran Mandani tweeted, quote, Today, I had the pleasure of meeting with Imam Siraj Wahaj, one of the nation's foremost Muslim leaders and a pillar of the Bed-Stuy community for half a century. Yeah, you know, he kind of helped contribute to knocking down some other pillars. But you want to know something else? This imam's children. Do you guys remember this story? First off, let's play this from POTUS real quick. Sorry, this is cut one.
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of mandami's photo um with the 93 world trade center bombing yeah it's a shame look uh the mondami thing is uh it's a disaster waiting to happen we can't have a communist in charge of a great supposedly free enterprise kind of a representative city yeah so so i i think it's If you have a communist mayor, I think it's going to be very tough for him and for the city.
SPEAKER 13 :
And he's not just a communist mayor. He's out there literally campaigning with one of the unindicted co-conspirators of 9-11, Andy McCarthy, who's on the show often. He was the prosecutor, his assistant U.S. attorney. He prosecuted him. That was his case. And the unindicted aspect, that meant the federal government, they had evidence on him, but they didn't bring charges. They were trying to use him to get a conviction on one of the more dangerous guys. It is what it is. But what's more, you remember this imam's son? You guys remember this story? Let me take you on a flashback here. Let's go back in time. Now, this is the same imam we're talking about, right? Let's go back to, actually, this is like 2018. Although 2014 of last year is when it went to trial. The imam's kids, his son and two of his daughters, they were convicted for this case and they were sentenced to life in prison. They were convicted on federal terrorism and kidnapping charges. It started because the imam's son kidnapped his three-year-old son and went with his sisters to New Mexico. The boy was missing from Georgia. He had seizures and other health issues. The dad thought he was just possessed. And when the FBI raided the compound, they found the little boy's remains on the property. But there's more. The five adults, they had put 11 children. They were training them to be terrorists. They were running them through shooting courses. The stuff that they said that they were preparing them to attack the government. According to the Department of Justice. Now, remember when this was. This was this is this actually the investigation into this actually started under Obama. The prosecutor said that the family of prohibited possessors, that they were using the kids as a prop because they wanted to rid the world of corrupt institutions, including the U.S. military, U.S. government, etc. Siraj Wahaj, named after his father and his sisters and one of his sister's husbands, were sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole. Thankfully, the other children were taken into custody and are OK. But one of the three-year-old Wahaja's son, that imam's grandson, is dead. And they said it was heavily fortified and that they were training them to attack the U.S. government and U.S. citizens, these kids. That is this imam's son. That is who Mamdani was campaigning with this weekend. We have a lot more on the way. It's our friends over at Kel-Tec, the KS7 Gen 2 Shotgun. You guys are familiar with Kel-Tec. It's one of the latest in evolution for home defense, and it's the K7 Gen 2 Pack with Upgrade. You got a five-slot Picatinny-style accessory rail. You can add grips underneath lights, keep it flush and sleek with a cap. It's a smoother pump action for a faster, cleaner cycling. Plus, you got enhanced durability. All of the original KO7 advantages are still there. Ultra lightweight at just under seven pounds unloaded. Compact bullpup design. You got maneuverability in tight spaces, ambidextrous downward shell ejection, seven plus one capacity as well. It's a go-to for home defense, but good for range days and, you know, anywhere in between. Works well for both seasoned shooters and first-timers. It's the KS7. It's the Gen 2. Also check out the Defender package as well. MSRP is just $639, so it's well within accessibility range. It's from Kel-Tec. K-E-L-T-E-C-Weapons.com. It's the KS7 Gen 2 made in the USA. Kel-Tec-Weapons.com. Tell them Dana sent you.
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SPEAKER 13 :
It is the WNBA, of course, Phoenix Mercury team invited a seven-year-old. They say genderless, but that's stupid and unscientific. A trans kid. This is a seven-year-old trans kid in makeup, in a half shirt, going and performing during the halftime show. If you're a parent and you're putting fake lashes on your seven-year-old, you need intervention. Yeah. I don't care what separate the mom's political baggage aside. That's abusive to do that to a kid. I mean, aren't these the same people that bitch and moan about child beauty pageants? What do you what do you think? This is like eleven thousand times worse because you're sexualizing the kid, putting the kid. It's a little boy dressed up as a girl, putting him in a half shirt. And giant, you know, Jasmine Crockett lashes and sending them out on the court. That's abusive at seven years old. That is messed up. That's messed up. Those are the parents who are just attention seeking whores and they are trying to get some clout by abusively using their child to do so. You are messed up in the head if you're a parent and you're doing this to your kid at seven years old. Let them figure out who they want to be. My gosh, I was a tomboy when I was a kid. I rode ATVs. I had a little mini three-wheeler. I did tricks on sand dunes. I was out in nature doing everything. And my mom never was like, oh, guess she's a boy. Guess she's a boy. I mean, I was in the creek. I was on my ATV. I was shooting stuff with my BB gun. I was going crazy in a fun, American, good, old-fashioned way. My mom never once was like... Oh, my gosh. She's a boy. Going to have her be a boy. Never. I also wanted to be a flower, Cain, apparently. I do distinctly remember that. I was like, I'm going to go out and be a flower. I don't know. That's just how it was. She never, never anything like that. This is just abusive. Seven years old. What is the reason of putting makeup and false lashes on a seven-year-old kid and put him in a half shirt? Other than you're sexualizing him. That's the American Bakabazi, by the way. To do something like that, you're doing the Afghan dancing boy thing with your kids in the name of trans. That's what it is. Just be honest about it. And if you're offended, it's probably because it's incriminating towards you. Probably because it hits home. Not my problem. It's yours. So coming up. Oh, my gosh. Democrats are in a full on civil slap fight. Josh Shapiro comes out swinging. He comes out swinging against Kamala Harris. I think he's I think Josh Shapiro is doing a little payback for all the people in the Democrat Party who did not want him on any ticket because he's Jewish. And, you know, that's fact. Also, KJP has a memoir, Kane, your favorite Nordstrom Nordstrom. How did she say Nordstrom Pipeline?
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Nordstrom Pipeline. Can't even say it wrong. She's against tyranny.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, she was against tyranny. How did she say?
SPEAKER 09 :
Emeritus?
SPEAKER 13 :
Emeritus, that's right.
SPEAKER 09 :
Like a disease?
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Hey, Donald J., how many kids did you saw today? Hey, hey, Donald J., how many kids did you saw today? Hey, hey.
SPEAKER 13 :
Oh, my gosh. Kelly and Conway had to sleep with him? Oh, that's so gross. What? Oh, yeah, he looked around and no one was joining him. What else was there?
SPEAKER 09 :
No, that was definitely it.
SPEAKER 13 :
I think he's taking Ozempic. Is he? Because wasn't he like pretty rotund? You know that man does not work out. Come on. You know that man doesn't even know what a dumbbell is.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, you're probably right.
SPEAKER 13 :
That man's taking the Ozempic. You know he is. Look at him.
SPEAKER 09 :
He's like whittling. What do they call them? GLP-1s?
SPEAKER 13 :
He's all saggy. Looks like he's melting. Dana, you're so mean. Have we met? Welcome back. Second hour. Top of the second hour. Dana Lashley with you. Channel 347 is where you can watch us do the radio show, DirecTV, the chats at Rumble, also X and Facebook. So the no kings, I was reading this over the weekend. Lorraine reminded me of it. I was reading this over the weekend. So Democrats abroad, they had a little note. Did you hear about this, Cain? They had a little note to their No Kings protest. Let me read it to you all. Democrats abroad, a few notes. We've changed the No Kings theme of other events around the world to No Tyrants, so as to not mix messages in a country with a monarchy. We're also swapping out No Crowns in favor of No Clowns. Come dressed as a Trump clown. DT himself or one of his cronies. Think bad blonde wig, orange face, long red tie, or whatever gets your creative juices flowing. What? A few notes. Just a little caveat. Yes, they don't want to upset every... Because, you know, they can't do this in Saudi Arabia. You can't go to Saudi Arabia and do Snow Kings. You can't even mean tweet in the U.K., So they're already caving. Oh, we've decided to change the new kings. So wait, so they're announcing that the kings, they're not actually, there's no king they're actually protesting against is what they're admitting here.
SPEAKER 09 :
No actual king.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah. Any resemblance to any real kings living or dead is purely coincidental and no offense was intended to any actual monarch of any sovereign nation. So they changed it to no tyrants. We don't want to misunderstand or be misunderstood in a country where the monarchy came.
SPEAKER 09 :
It's more like they don't want to be targeted.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah. We do not want to have our backsides blistered by the crown prince of Saudi Arabia. Nor would we like to be taken to jail by the bobbies in UK for simply tweeting something that could be misunderstood about the monarchy. What if it was just an excuse? It always has been. That's it. So, yeah, can you, well, I don't think in countries, so wait a minute. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Here's the thing that sticks out. So as to not mix messages in a country with a monarchy. So they're admitting that there's no monarchy here in the U.S. Yes. Well, well, why? Yeah. Why is it? Well, we know we don't live in a monarchy, but we're doing a no kings protest anyway.
SPEAKER 09 :
To make sure it doesn't happen?
SPEAKER 13 :
I am so confused right now. Okay. All right. By the way, this guy almost passed out and malfunctioned. Cut 25. This was another no kings, but don't say kings. It's no tyrants. He was asked about voter ID and he couldn't do it.
SPEAKER 15 :
Voter ID is racist, yeah? Like, should you need an ID to vote? No, I don't think so, no. Is it racist that CBS asks you for an ID to buy Sudafed? Well, I think that there are certain people that should not be allowed to buy Sudafed, so I think it's a good idea. So it's more important that you use an ID to buy Sudafed, but not to vote for the person that runs this country?
SPEAKER 13 :
I'm not exactly sure. I'm just so confused. Why am I here? Who dressed me here? They have no idea. They just wanted to go out and make fools of themselves. These are grown people. See, kids, I'm telling you, when you get older, you just realize just how dangerous you're like. I mean, by God's grace, have you made it this far? These are the dumb people that are in charge. These are the adults that are in charge. By God's grace, have you made it this far without one of them getting you killed? That's one of the things you realize as you get older, Kane, is it not? It's like interviewing the vampire Brad Pitt when he wakes up in the tomb or whatever and he can see everything. It's like when you become an adult and you can see everything and you realize all these people are morons. Oh, my gosh. How did I make it this far in life? Oh, my word. They... Well... There's more. I mean, we could sit here and, oh, wait, did we get cut 31? J.B. Pritzker, he went to one, too. The irony of the billionaire nepo baby going to a, this guy shut down the state of Illinois and then what? He flew to Florida. He shut down Illinois and was like, bye, and left and went to Florida. He left everyone there going, gosh, where's Pritzker? Pritzker was maskless in Florida, living it up. Now he's at the quote unquote, wait, can they call it a no kings? Oh, wait, no, this is understood to be a country without a monarchy. So they can say no kings, which completely undercuts their whole purpose of their protest. Cut 31, please.
SPEAKER 10 :
Donald Trump has got to go. Hey, hey. Oh, my gosh. He's so bad. Donald Trump has got to go.
SPEAKER 13 :
He doesn't care. He's just trying to make it through the walk. He needs to get George Conway's exemplary. Dana, you're so mean. Yes, that's a point. By the way, Sierra Club. We're just going to randomly be out here in the back. Sierra Club. Sponsored by Crocs. Internet Explorer. Ensure. Flex tape. I mean, come on. These people, we hate capitalism, but sponsored by, you know, come on. This is crazy. I, there is, I just can't. So, okay. So then cut 20. This is a protester. Again, we, we can't go very far without getting one of the violent ones. They're all over. This is cut 20 from one of the no Kings protesting is.
SPEAKER 21 :
So, okay, so for a birthday present, what do you hope happens? You know, you wake up tomorrow morning.
SPEAKER 11 :
I hope that I see the obituary that we're all waiting for tomorrow. That's what I hope for.
SPEAKER 21 :
What? You're wishing that President Trump is dead?
SPEAKER 11 :
Yes, absolutely. Absolutely.
SPEAKER 13 :
Absolutely. Oh, isn't she just so kind? That's the left for you. Thank you for demonstrating your violent nature. Thank you so much for playing. I can't, man. I can't. This is crazy. Now explain 18 to me. So apparently Nancy Pelosi, she made a video and she needed a jump cut for a six second video. Why did she? Let's watch this first. So this is cut 18. She was tearing up a crown and I don't know why, but there's a jump cut in here. Watch. I'm going to tear up the crown. Why did she have to do that? Why was there a jump cut in the middle of the video?
SPEAKER 09 :
She couldn't do it at first.
SPEAKER 13 :
I can't tear this piece of paper. It's like the Spongebob when he's going door to door and he meets the old lady and then she's like, Mom! Remember that?
SPEAKER 1 :
Mom!
SPEAKER 13 :
The old Spongebob video? No, only half of you out there and only half of the half understand what that's about. Can we talk about the Louvre for a moment? Oh, man. I just... Who's in charge of security over there? Who does that?
SPEAKER 09 :
Pink Panther?
SPEAKER 13 :
Apparently. It gets crazier. So the alarm, I don't know if you... This is wild. The alarm... for the Louvre. that connected the window doors. So the burglars, if you are not following the story, literally in broad daylight in the span of four minutes, a group of thieves came in 270 yards from the Mona Lisa and stole all of these like jewels that were in Napoleon's family, right? Stole all of these like super expensive jewels and the loops closed. They rode a basket lift up the outside of it Forced to open a window, got in there, smashed the display cases, and then they fled with all this fancy stuff, right? They got all kind of stuff that they stole, jewels that, you know, were going to be just broken up and immediately just parsed out. They, 8,708 diamonds, 34 sapphires, 38 emeralds, and 212 pearls stolen. The pearl and diamond tiara cane of Empress Eugenie. The large diamond corsage bow. The brooch known as the reliquary of Empress Eugenie. Emerald necklace from the Marie Louise Paru. And then you had a whole bunch of other stuff. Wow. They got the crown. They dropped a crown on their way out and it was damaged. A lot of these, they said, are they can't even estimate how valuable they are there. And they said they're all unsellable because they're world renowned. So they're going to have to destroy all of these pieces and resell the stones. That's what they're doing, because you can't just like resell like the necklace. Everyone's going to know it's been stolen. This is going to be a lot of money. What gets me is how in the world this was able to happen. So this is what the Louvre, this is the actual museum. This is what they said. They tweeted this today. After the robbery that the Louvre suffered yesterday, the museum regrets to inform you that it will remain closed to the public today. Visitors who have already booked their tickets will be refunded. After the robbery came, you mean the robbery in which someone literally got into a basket like a group of kittens and were hauled up the side of the Louvre and then they busted in a window like in front of everybody. But they were all in high vis vests, apparently. And what is it? Does that if you see somebody in a high vis vest, are you just like, oh, that person's official? That's an official person doing official business. They're doing official stuff. I am fascinated by this stuff. It is one of the funniest. I mean, it's I don't think they're ever going to get any of these jewels back. But I mean, guys, they got in a basket and they hauled it up old style up the side of the building. What in the world? And no one saw it. No one saw. Now, some people were saying that like the story, the alarm that was connected, it had been out of service. Apparently, they turned off the alarm on the little window door because of repeated false triggers came. Oh, so the burglars knew that it wasn't working.
SPEAKER 09 :
So don't fix the triggers. Just leave the alarm off.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah. Oh, no, we should not fix what is triggering the alarm. We should... Oh, no, no, we should leave the alarm off. Hey, wee-wee, let's go get a baguette. Oh, instead of fixing it, let's just unplug it. Oh, wee-wee, ooh. I don't know. I got... I think that there was an inside job. I think that somebody on the inside was working with them. Because how do you not... I'm just... I don't know. I don't know, man. So they I guess it's still closed today. The Louvre. But that's a lot of jewels. That is some real. Yeah. You know that meme? I don't know if you guys have seen this before. It is a meme of a door lock, like one of the latch locks. But instead of the metal latch, there's a Cheeto in place. This is like the security of the Louvre, apparently. Oh, no, no. Just don't fix it. Just put that Cheeto. Oh, the Cheeto will keep all the people. Oh, oui, oui. That's, I don't know, man. But why is it still closed, though? I'm curious. Like, that's a pretty big thing. Hmm. We got a lot more on the way as we move our partners that will bring you the program. It is the folks who make Super Beats, the company called Human. They were founded out of the UT Health Science Center and built on real cardiovascular research around blood flow and nitric oxide. And unlike other supplement brands, Human is science-born and not just science-ish. Their products work and you can feel them working. UT athletes have used Super Beats for over a decade, calling it their cheat code for recovery and endurance. And you can use it for the same reason, to support healthy blood pressure and circulation. Today, more than 160 college and pro teams use human products, And so your favorite team probably does also. And if you've seen the human logo on the Longhorns field for football season, it's more than a sponsorship. It's a signal from human and UT leading the future of cardiovascular health. So the super beats heart chews from human heart, healthy energy without the crash. And you can find them at your local Walmart and start supporting your cardiovascular health today. Get on the better road. Get on the road to better health with human.
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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
SPEAKER 13 :
So, apparently, this is ridiculous. Antidepressants, which I think are completely over-prescribed in this nation, they're now being recast as a hot lifestyle accessory. Influencers have been touting them. A lot of unsuspecting people, though, they find the side effects. I can't even... I mean, the reading about the side effects, it's like... It's like they give you all of the things that you would take them to get rid of, right? The side effects to this are crazy. I just feel like it's big pharma. You do not everybody. No, I think it's one of the most over prescribed things. It is an epidemic in this nation. Steak, butter and ice cream. There's a fight coming up. Maha was saturated fat. and the war on seed oils, etc. The federal government's unveiling new diet advice that's going to embrace saturated fat that alarms doctors and scientists. And it shows a meal with a stick of butter, a raw steak, and a glass of milk. That is a lot of fat.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, but that's not real science if they're against that.
SPEAKER 13 :
And also, I mean, do you need the government to tell you how to eat? I, on my own, see a nutritionist.
SPEAKER 09 :
They lied to us with that stupid food pyramid.
SPEAKER 13 :
Oh, they did. Yeah. It's like people can take charge of their own eating habits. They don't have to have the government instruct them on how to eat. It's crazy. Let's see here. So apparently, oh, I want to get to this lithium battery. A lithium battery ignites on an Air China flight midair. Flames burst out in the cabin. And that's one of those, like if they had like a... I guess when you fly here in the United States, anything that has a lithium battery in it, you got to put in your check bag or you can't bring it. But they said apparently it was... It spontaneously ignited. And it was in the overhead compartment. That's pretty crazy. You got to be careful with those things for sure. Also here, going back, we had... There's fears over higher rates pricing as Georgia is moving to provide more electricity for AI data centers. This is going to be a big thing coming up with local and municipal voting. The Republican led public service commission's deciding on power expansion and prices. So this is going to be a fight there in all of these communities that are dealing with that. Stick with us. We've got more to come. The folks over at All Family Pharmacy, this is a great partner for the show. All Family Pharmacy wants to help you out with the stuff that you need, everyday medications, as well as things like antibiotics, ivermectin. I mean, you name it, they have it at All Family Pharmacy. And you can get everything in as fast as two to four days. You can also have things overnighted to you if you need them in a pinch. I've had that done before as well. And it's incredibly helpful. They put all of this at your fingertips. All of this is completely accessible by you. There's no gatekeepers. And nad plus they have latisse for your eyelashes i mean they've got everything the amoxicillin the azithromycin uh you know they even have stuff for motion sickness uh everything that they have uh also is made with inputs precursors from the usa so these are usa produced manufactured medications using usa ingredients which i can't guarantee that from everywhere else you may go But here you're not getting CCP or any kind of foreign precursors in your medicines, which I think is kind of important, right? Not just national security, but personal security. Stock up now at allfamilypharmacy.com slash Dana code Dana 10. Don't wait until flu season knocks at your door either. They've got Tamiflu. They got all that stuff. Check it out. Allfamilypharmacy.com slash Dana code Dana 10 for 10% off.
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SPEAKER 16 :
You're going to have to keep up the pressure on the Israeli government. Justin Trudeau said that Canada would honour the International Criminal Court arrest warrants, i.e. Benjamin Netanyahu would be arrested if he came to Canada. Does that stand under your leadership? Yes. You'd be prepared to do that?
SPEAKER 15 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, that's Mark Carney in Canada. For what reason? But notice he won't say the same thing about any of the Hamas leaders or even any of the Qataris that helped facilitate it. Welcome back to the program, Dana Lash with you. By the way, the ceasefire, Hamas already violated it. I mean, what we tell you, every single ceasefire, Hamas violates it. You have two Israeli soldiers that are dead and Israel's now ordered a wave of strikes on Gaza. They've suspended aid. Think about this. They were literally. giving aid and have been the entire time to that area. Can you imagine if the United States, if we were told that we had to give aid to Japan during World War Two or if Britain was ordered to give aid to Germany during World War Two? That's exactly what it's like when you're demanding that Israel give aid to the very entity that has spent 20 years attacking it and violating literally every ceasefire. And that's what's been happening. So Israel announced that they're halting the transfer of humanitarian aid because Hamas will not stop firing off rockets and bombing. They won't stop. It continues over and over again. Audio sent by three. Trump has already warned them. He's he's given them. I don't know. This might be the last warning. Listen to cut three. Is there a timeline to get Hamas to disarm in your mind?
SPEAKER 03 :
Not a timeline, not a hard line, but we're going to see how it all works out. They've lived there for a long time. They're very violent, as you understand. You've been covering it for a long time. But we're going to find out. Don't forget, 50,000 of them have been killed, okay? So they killed 1,200 people in horrible the October 7th. attack. It was an attack. They killed 1,200 but Israel can say that we killed 50,000 and so you'd say it's a whole new set of people and it is. I mean, you know, they get replaced by other people, young people. But we're going to find out. So it's not a hard timeline, but it's a line in my own mind. And at a certain point, if they don't do what they're supposed to do, then we'll have to do it for them.
SPEAKER 13 :
He's being very clear. Hamas fired on troops in Rafah. They killed two IDF soldiers. And then Israel launched significant and extensive strikes in return as a response to Hamas's ceasefire violation. And then, of course, Hamas says, oh, look, you're so mean. You're killing our people. You violated the ceasefire yet again. They do this every single time. That's why all of this is just performative nonsense. People have been following this from the inception are tired. It's been 20 years of this. They are the ones who violate the ceasefire without exception every single time. And when Israel acts to defend itself, Israel is the one that's attacked. You can see now why some people are just done being frustrated about it. And the Hamas problem has got to be nixed. It is done. And I think POTUS has given them plenty of off ramps on the highway of terrorism. So now they're in the. I mean, they're now they're in defensive position again, Israel. And then Hamas, of course, plays victim. Hamas was the one who fired on forces in Rafah. That's the southern city of Rafah that killed two of the soldiers. Whenever Israel tries to get aid to the area, Hamas tries to fire on them. This is crazy. They fired an anti-tank missile, Hamas did, towards IDF. And then Hamas goes, oh, I just don't know. I'm unaware. That's literally what they said. They said, well, we're unaware. We just don't know. We're not aware of any of these things. And you guys saw the videos. Well, we didn't really play all of it because it's very, very graphic. Graphic. The day that the ceasefire was signed, they were rounding up people in Gaza. And by the way, it was Hamas. And then they had an audience of Gazans that were cheering them on. They were rounding up other people in Gaza and shooting them in the head in front of everybody. Because if they were helping with like the humanitarian stuff, if they were helping, whatever. And other Gazans are the ones who are telling Hamas about them. And then they help them get them and they bring them to the town. Square, I guess, and they put a bullet in their head. So one of the so you have Abu Shabab, which is one of the other rival. They're all Hamas and they're all kind of power jockeying. This is what unclear language leads to when you are giving the breakdown of how Gaza should be run. And you say, well, Hamas can't have anything to do with it. Without clear like, no, we're not even going to have just like a partnership of X, Y and Z. We're going to have this and this is how it's going to be without that clear language. There are going to be people who sense that there's a power vacuum and they're going to fight and to get to stake their claim. Abu Shabab is one of them. And so this Hamas was accusing Israel of funding an army rival gangs. I'm going to tell you something. One of the things I don't understand about the criticism of Israel, and I get it. I mean, there's criticism of some of the decisions Netanyahu has made and some of the decisions that their parliament as a whole made. And I understand that. But this idea that, well, you know, Israel was paying Hamas so that they could be victims is one of the stupidest things I've ever heard. Think about it. You are your I mean, your ally, the United States is across a couple of seas and you are surrounded by enemies all around and then the Mediterranean to your back. One of the only things that they could do since whenever they get involved in any kind of military conflict, even in defense and with I mean, it's always in defense, but even in clear defense of aggression from Hamas, they're accused by the world of being murderers. And then the world threatens to come down on them. So they're limited in some of the tactics that they can use to weaken the enemy. And one of the things that they did and whether you agree with it or not, it's very Sun Tzu pay to divide your enemy. pay to keep the factions separate in terms of stoking the fires of competitiveness between them and stoking the animosity between the different factions. That was the purpose of it. Can you imagine a united if all of the factions like Abu Shabab and others united? Can you imagine what October 7th would have been like had those forces all been on the same page? Can you imagine? No, you cannot because you're isolated. All the people who are doing the drive-by criticisms are isolated. A lot of them are these keyboard warriors. They have no clue. Paying to divide your enemy because the use of military force is frowned upon. What else are you supposed to do? There are a lot of people that are very ignorant about what's happening in this geopolitical sphere. So have criticisms about how the parliament, about how Herzog or Netanyahu or any of these other individuals, the decisions that they make or the shots that they call. But when you have limited options, you've got to examine everything else that you can do in order to keep your sovereign nation safe. And so Hamas was accusing them of funding an army rival gangs. And they said, oh, they looted aid trucks. Hamas looted aid trucks. You all are no different. So I don't know. The only way that this is going to happen, honestly, you need the Arab world needs to grow some balls and go in there and clean up Gaza. And that's just it. Some of these Arab nations and their leaders are just as scared of their reactionary. Islamist base as anybody else's. It's one of the reasons why they try to triangulate and try to have all sides and try to appease everybody. They're just as nervous and just as scared too. And Democrats only encourage it. But I just want everybody to know Another ceasefire broken by Hamas again. Every single one broken by Hamas. You can go out and look throughout the 20 year history of this. Every single ceasefire broken by the same entity without exception. Now, some of the other things that we're following as well. Did you guys hear Secret Service is investigating what they identified as a possible sniper's nest was sidelined to Trump's Air Force One near Palm Beach Airport? Now, I've been to that airport. They there is a no go zone of anything like that around that airport further. There's no hunting in the Palm Beach. There's there's where would you even go to get wildlife unless you're going to go get a gator? And why would you need a sniper's nest for that? Now, I do understand that some airports, they actually employ people to keep the birds off the runway. And that's a very and they have to take care. And I do get that. But apparently that's not what this is per New York Post. They they were investigating it. And the if it was something that was done by the airport, I don't think it would look as shoddy as it did. Do you agree, Kane? It was held up. It was a platform held up by pipes.
SPEAKER 09 :
Right. And I think they have some sort of like foul season right now for bow hunting and other things.
SPEAKER 13 :
But where that stand is, it falls in the perimeter of a no-go zone. So even if it was a waterfowl or anything like that area, that particular perimeter, because it was so close to the airport, is a no-go zone.
SPEAKER 09 :
And where it was in the tree, too, was a little... Even if you're a hunter, you're not going to put it kind of right there.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, it was in a weird spot.
SPEAKER 09 :
It was.
SPEAKER 13 :
I mean, I've seen tree blinds before, and this is just like a weird... There's a weird spot. But they're investing... Now, no one's saying it was, but I'm sorry. There's two precedents already with POTUS and a conservative activist that was shot. Yeah, we're going to go with the...
SPEAKER 09 :
It's sus, bro.
SPEAKER 13 :
The trends on this. We're going to look at the statistics on this. It's super sus. So they're investigating it. It's in a tree and it was in direct line of sight to that airport. And like I said, I've been to that airport and that area around it. And I did look into it. It is absolutely a no-go zone. I forget how many yards out it is. But there is nothing, no hunting waterfowl, gator or otherwise. Absolutely not in that perimeter. And I think it's something that they expanded once Trump became POTUS. even back in 2016, because that's where Trump Force One or Air Force One would land whenever he was at Mar-a-Lago, is that airport. But there's, I mean, everything around, it's not a huge airport, but everything around that airport, there's no... I'm sorry. There's you can't know.
SPEAKER 09 :
As a matter of fact, I even looked this up yesterday and there is no hunting permitted near the Palm Beach airport. Yeah, it's illegal and unsafe to do so. So the area surrounding the airport is strictly controlled.
SPEAKER 13 :
It's like, however, I can't remember several hundred yards like around the whole airport is like a total no go zone. And I know it was expanded after he became POTUS, but I don't remember the particular details of it. I just remember coming across it and I made a note of it. But they it's a I mean, direct line of sight right to the landing zone. So one of the things and I saw this. Hold up. I put let me bear with me because I put this in my bookmark system and I want to pull it up because this dovetails with it. He's using a different set of stairs. Right now this was something so this actually came from AP and Fox. So he's now taken to boarding Air Force One super quickly and they're using smaller stairs due to increased security measures per a White House official. So that's been implemented. So he's quickly the way they described it quickly using the small stairs due to increased security measures. That's kind of freaky when you think about it. Like even with that, at least they're looking at trees now, right? At least they're looking up roof lines, trees, and maybe getting that under control. America's tap water is a cocktail of heavy metals and toxins. The result of corroded pipes that we should have replaced decades ago. Let me just ask anybody in Flint, Michigan. You got lead, heavy metals, rust, basically liquid poison right off the tap. So when I tried Cove Pure on my counter, it was so easy to No plumber, no drilling. You just plug it in and pick your water temperature on the touch screen. And honestly, it actually tastes like water, not like death. So that's why I use the Cove Pure water purifier to keep my family safe. Unlike the government, Copier actually does its job. Lead in your water doesn't stop at a gross taste. It can actually cause a host of serious medical issues. But yeah, sure, go ahead, trust the city with your kid's health. I mean, what could go wrong? Copier's ClearWave technology removes up to 99.9% of contaminants, so don't wait for the government to help. Take back control of your family's health and finally drink water the way that it was meant to be. Visit CovePure.com slash Dana for $200 off. That's CovePure.com slash Dana.
SPEAKER 09 :
It's his life mission to make bad decisions. It's time for Florida Man.
SPEAKER 13 :
Man, I got we got some crazy headlines. This one, though. Ah, I mean, the guy committed a crime. And I'm tempted to say no, but he did bring the car back that he stole because there was a kid in it. So a Florida man was accused of stealing a vehicle at a gas station, and then he immediately returned it once he discovered there was a child inside. 53-year-old William Mullis was arrested after he stole a car at a gas station in Brevard County. There's surveillance footage of it. There's no question. There was a one-year-old in the backseat while the owner went inside the convenience store, I guess, to pay. He's seen throwing the car in reverse, backing it into the parking lot. as the mother who drove the car rushes to the driver's side door. He was seen fleeing the area on foot, later arrested. He's behind bars with no bond. It's not worth it, parents. Take him inside. It is not worth it. It is not worth it. It is not worth it. It is not worth it. I cannot say it enough. We do not live in the world that we lived in 40-whatever years ago when your parents could do it. It's not the same. You can't do that. Also, let's see here. Oh, my gosh. i don't want to read the dog one yeah i know about the guy the deed was done last year so so you guys remember oh gosh i can't even stand uh they passed a lot of laws in florida about this you remember the sweet pup that was tied to a fence to drown he was abandoned during a hurricane during hurricane milton remember the guy was cleared the guy accused of doing it was cleared of charges um I he should never be allowed to own an animal again. He child. He tied this Giovanni Garcia's third degree felony charge was thrown out when they said they didn't have enough sufficient evidence to verify that he was responsible. You got to be kidding me. It was a bull terrier pup. The truck. The pup's name was Trooper. He was barking desperately for help. He was in stomach water, stomach deep water. Hurricane Milton was dumping tons of rain. He was saved, thank heavens, and rehomed. But the guy who did it, you can't. You've got to be kidding me. Oh, my gosh. Fates, do your thing, man. Do your thing. That's just horrible. Let's talk about the Florida man who was dubbed the Cuban Tarzan who said he caught a record-sized iguana. I love this. Oh, my gosh. They have a real iguana problem down there because I guess people got them as pets and then they let them loose and now they've got to round them up. Florida man who goes by the nickname literally of Cuban Tarzan. He apparently got one of the biggest iguanas ever seen in the state. Miami New Times says Andrew Morales, who tracks, that's his job, he tracks and removes the animals. It is the length of his body. This guy's over six feet. It legit looks like a Godzilla. Florida Fish and Wildlife confirmed that they can reach five feet in length and weigh up to 17 pounds. This thing looks like it's about 17 pounds. That's pretty crazy. Man, alive. That's something else. Also, let's see here. I've got a couple of other ones. We also have the Florida man who was arrested for online threats against his employer, Amazon. That's never a smart thing to do anything like that. And they have they have some very they have some. This was under the Rick Scott regime, but they have laws on that stuff, particularly Florida enhancement for charges, things like that, that relates to threats online. Our third hour coming up. Stick with us. Our partners that will bring you the program. It's our friends at Chapter 11. Chapter is a partner that you can trust that will walk you through all of the craziness with the quote unquote Medicare enrollment season, which you hear over and over and over again. Now with Chapter, they're going to get you squared away. It's a partner that you can trust. They are salaried. They do not work on commission and they advocate for you and not the insurance company. 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Work with a partner you can trust, and that's chapter. Dial pound 250 and say the words, my Medicare. Welcome back to the program. Your lovable hostess here, Dana Lash, at the top of this third hour. You can watch us do the radio show, Channel 347, DirecTV, as well as follow along chats at Rumble, X, Facebook. Well, can you still get to all those sites? Because there's a massive outage. Half the Internet's down, Cain. Breaking news. Half the Internet is down. Actually, they're still trying to figure out what... happening so there's a massive massive outage cyber security news reported that basically everything screeched to a halt because of Amazon Web Services they have an outage that has been disrupting Everything. Amazon, Snapchat, Prime Video, Canvas, all like the stuff that like the kids use in school, all this stuff. It's all down. They said in the early hours of this morning, the Amazon Web Services, which I am. Can I just pause for a moment? Is that probably where he makes the bulk of his money, Jeff Bezos? Because that is a massive business. When you consider that they are literally providing half of the Internet's infrastructure, that's crazy. So it started about... Like East Coast time, about 3 a.m., they said that there was a critical failure in Amazon Web Services' U.S. East One region in northern Virginia. So it triggered widespread disruption, and it knocked out all of these platforms. And so everybody had – they have frozen apps. They have websites they can't access, stalled workflows, et cetera, et cetera. AWS said that the core issue would be resolved by midday, but it doesn't look like it. But they said it's a digital domino effect. And then it starts hitting everything else, like Snapchat, Amazon Prime Video, the streams, all kinds of stuff. And they have the whole timeline of the outages. So it's like half of the internet has gone down. Ring, Alexa...
SPEAKER 09 :
Snapchat.
SPEAKER 13 :
Alexa, favorite Dana show. I'm just going to tell you guys Alexis to do stuff. Alexa, favorite the Dana show. Alexa. Play Guns N' Roses. See, look, I'm sorry for all of you. I have to do that. This is fun. Apparently, I've done that accidentally before, according to list. Yeah. Yeah. So we got to test the theory every now and then. Don't tell me that.
SPEAKER 09 :
Huh? I said, don't tell me that. I'll get carried away.
SPEAKER 13 :
They said that one of the tech experts, according to Daily Mail, says that they think it's likely due to an internal error at Amazon, but they have not ruled out a cyber attack. They said they can't rule out a cyber attack until Amazon Web Services releases its full incident report. But they said that as it is, there's currently no evidence of hacking, data breaches, or coordinated attacks. So what do you think, Kane? I mean, everything. Oh, all the people who play Clash Royale, that's down. Signals down. Ring. Life360. MyFitnessPal. Fortnite. Oh my gosh, like everything, everything.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, if you see downdetector.com and you look at the graph, Amazon Web Services is showing the most consistent and upward climb. which would mean that the DNS servers that Lorraine was talking about could be not working properly, which that's how you, as a user on the web, when you type in where you want to go online, the DNS server knows where to take you. Well, if they're having DNS issues at Amazon Web Services, then everybody will be affected like we're seeing right here. So maybe that's it. Or hackers. Or aliens. Aliens?
SPEAKER 13 :
You know, that space rocks up there doing this thing.
SPEAKER 09 :
I'm not against this thought process here.
SPEAKER 13 :
The one that's putting out the weird energy and everyone's like, we don't know what it is. I'm just saying, just thinking out loud here.
SPEAKER 09 :
Could be it.
SPEAKER 13 :
I don't know. I mean, it is kind of weird how fragile that structure is though, right? Yeah. Where all of that can go down. Think about it. If you're inconvenienced on the internet, like if something goes down and you can't access something, doesn't it feel like you're the Ingalls family living on the prairie? Yeah. You feel like you're roughing it. You're like, oh my gosh, what am I going to do? This is why I don't, I have resisted. So I don't hate tech. Somebody accused me of being a technophobe when we did the MRC event. And I'm like, I'm not a technophobe. I've been, I love gadgets. Stop. I'm against stupid technical, you know, egregiousness. That's what I'm against. And also AI should scare the hell out of you. And if it doesn't, I think you're probably the Borg. think that's because only the Borg would say that AI isn't scary anyway but they said the I would not want to be an engineer who has to work on this can you imagine you're like oh it's Monday going into my job Amazon Web Services you go in everything is down oh my gosh no one can get on snapchat no one can post a photo of their sandwich no it's crazy we are very very dependent on on digital that bothers me. Like I'm, I'm trying to, to not be okay. So sidebar. So we, we have not yet acquired a dog for wick, right? My rescue dog needs a dog because he's, he, he's a, Malinois and a Rhodesian Ridgeback mix. And when we went into the shelters because we wanted to get a rescue, I was like, I don't want a working breed and I don't want a puppy. And then the first dog I saw looked just like Louie, one of my deceased pups. He had his markings on his face and I'm like, so we got a puppy and he's a working breed. Anyway, thankfully, we both have experience with working breeds. But some of his herding instincts are coming out and he needs a buddy because he's just about wearing pants and typing at computers. He's just, you know, he's so codependent. So we're thinking about our trainer and vet. We're like, well, you should check out. I don't want to shop. I would like to go and adopt or go to a rescue. But they suggested a female golden retriever. I'm going to bring this tugboat to shore. Hold up. They got a lot of hair on them, those golden retrievers. I've never had a golden retriever. I've had German Shepherds, Cocker Spaniels, and Frenchies. I've never had a golden retriever. And apparently their brains make more serotonin, so that makes them very happy all the time, more than other breeds. So my whole point, Kane, in talking about this is there's only so many amount of times that you can vacuum as a human, right? Like a day. There's only so many times that you can vacuum your house a day as a human. So I'm like, well... I don't even enable Siri on my phone. And then I forget when I want to find my phone or find something and I remember I don't have it enabled. And I don't do the Alexa stuff. I don't have any of that, anything like that. My friends think I'm crazy because they all rely on it so much. They just, in the middle of the day, like, oh, Alexa, put whatever on my grocery list and it's done. And they're used to living like that. So I've been super resistant. However, I joke about it. I won't even get a robot vacuum. I may break on that one, Cain. But it's kind of also like a machine version of a facehugger. I don't want to wake up in the middle of the night and that thing is on my face, you know, killing me. I don't want to wake up in the middle of the night being murdered by my robot vacuum. So I'm a little...
SPEAKER 09 :
We all saw that video where the robot vacuum in that robot factory convinced other robots to leave the robot factory. Remember that? And through that actual robot vacuum, they were able to access internet to the out world. And, oh, it wasn't good.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah. So I'm a little concerned about it. I've literally been reading stories about robot vacuums. I'm just saying. Yeah. My whole thing is we should not be so affected if something like this happens that everyone's like, oh, my gosh, I can't. Like Delta Airlines is affected. We can't diversify our structure a little bit. Am I misunderstanding something? Maybe I am.
SPEAKER 09 :
I mean, I've flown in the days before computers and Internet. You couldn't buy your ticket on an Internet site back in the early 90s. So. Why don't we have that as a backup system today?
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, I mean, you do. You can. You can go and just print your boarding pass.
SPEAKER 09 :
But I mean, right now, people are crippled at Delta and other airlines right now because all of their online interfaces are down.
SPEAKER 13 :
Listen to this. Amazon Web Services has about 30% of the global cloud infrastructure market. That's crazy. So if you have an outage, I mean, it hits worldwide. That is, that's wild. The aliens are watching. They're like, do you see what's happening? They're descending into madness. Just saying. Maybe for some NatSec issues. One of the things we were discussing in the first hour is the insanity as it pertains to the left. They're fighting. They're really upset. Now all of these memoirs are coming out and Cut 47, Josh Shapiro, who they were not going to consider as a Democrat leader beyond the gubernatorial level because he's Jewish. He's coming out swinging. Listen.
SPEAKER 19 :
And you also criticized her, which I thought was fair, for not speaking out publicly earlier about concerns over President Biden's fitness to run in 2024. To me, that's not just a criticism for the VP. It's a criticism for the whole Democratic Party.
SPEAKER 05 :
You and I have talked about that issue. Yeah, look, I don't want to get into it with the former vice president. But, I mean, if you're in the room, you're seeing things nobody else is seeing. You've got a responsibility to speak up.
SPEAKER 13 :
KJP says she didn't see any signs before the June debate, which I don't believe it. She's got a memoir out. This is cut 45. Listen.
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People said, why didn't members of his inner circle speak up about what many believe was the apparent decline of Joe Biden? And you said you're a member of the inner circle and you never saw the decline. And after that, I wrote how you even write, Corrine, that you were on the plane with him going to the debate. And you didn't see anything.
SPEAKER 17 :
Well, when we were on the Air Force One going on the going to the debate, you got to remember his campaign. People were on the team. His family was on the team. I actually was one of those rare trips that I didn't really see him until after the debate, even though I was on the plane. So really, I take I want everybody to know that I take this question incredibly seriously.
SPEAKER 13 :
She needs to stop doing the press, the spokesperson spin. Because in her memoir, she's saying that, I mean, it's very interesting. She says she didn't notice anything until the June debate. And then after that, she was just shocked. So they're all immediately trying to absolve themselves of going along with this ruse by acting as though, oh, no, we were also taken. No, you weren't. You guys were right there. You aided and abetted it. You guys saw it. But no one was going to say anything because you guys didn't want to lose your adjacency to power. And that's the real, that's, I don't like her hair like that. I liked it way better, shorter. Just, I don't like the highlight in there. But she's all, I mean, who else is going to come out with a book at this point? Good night. All of them, they're all, they're all just spilling secrets about this. So yeah, we saw how bad it was, but not until this point. They want to be very clear that you understand that they, like you, were shocked at the debate. when he was just so cognitively impaired. I don't believe it at all. Although I think Josh Shapiro has a lot of reasons to be angry at the party, but I don't have any sympathy for you if you stay there. You're staying as a member of a party that did not want to put you on the ticket because you're Jewish. I mean, that would be a clue that maybe, you know, not all is equal in the Democrat Party. We got more to come. We got headlines on the way as well as we move our partners that will bring you the program. Patriot Mobile. Patriot Mobile is the only Christian conservative cell phone service in existence. If you have not switched, I have no idea why. Look, I know a lot of people out there like, oh, I'm going to cancel Disney. I'm going to cancel this. If you have not switched your phone service, you are spending, you're giving so much more money to the left than you ever would with a Disney account. You got to realize how much of your cell phone bill money goes towards these left-leaning packs that just drop millions in the bucket. for Mamdani or DEI or gun control or a number of other things. So with Patriot Mobile, not only are you getting the best reliable nationwide coverage with access to all three major U.S. networks, but you can enjoy flexible, unlimited data plans. You've got mobile hotspots, international roaming, device protection, internet backup, everything. And it's so easy to switch. They have a 100% U.S.-based support team. They can switch you from your home or office. You don't have to go anywhere. Keep your phone and your number or upgrade. The choice is yours. Veterans and first responders get 15% off of their bills every month. And you can get a free month of service just from using promo code Dana. It is so easy to switch. So please make your money work for you passively. Make your money support the things that you support. Don't have your choice of cell phone service betray you at the ballot box. Visit patriotmobile.com slash Dana or call 972-PATRIOT to get started today. And use promo code Dana to get a free month of service. That's PatriotMobile.com slash Dana. Promo code Dana. 972 Patriot.
SPEAKER 09 :
And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
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I have questions. New York City Wikipedia conference was halted when a quote... Non-offending pedophile, end quote, stormed the stage and pointed the gun at his own head.
SPEAKER 09 :
That's oxymoronic.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah. Connor Weston, 27, apparently had a revolver and he said, I'm a non-contact pedophile. They had a wiki conference staff had to tackle and disarm him. He was taken into custody. What is non-offending? Don't even. Stop it. I honestly think some people are like, I'm going to be transparent and say this kind of stuff because they're as a tactic to mainstream this depravity. It's really what it is. Let's see. Poor seniors are dying up to nine years sooner than the wealthier ones. And then USA Today is like, how to not be one of them. Make money. I know. You know, a lot of it is about preventative care, too. And I feel like the article really glosses over that in favor of establishing a narrative that's very Marxist in terms of cash flow. But I digress. Your lawn wants you to mow your fall leaves, says an expert. They're saying put down the rake. They said that the tedious chore of raking leaves don't do it and that you can just mow them into your yard. Yeah, it is. I don't know why people don't do that anyway. That's always been a big thing with my folks.
SPEAKER 09 :
You have a decent healthy lawn the next year, too.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, I mean, true point. Also, six... Oh, I don't even know what this is. One of the things we are going to talk about later, though... is, and I'll play the video later, a whale shark reached the shores of Gaza. I didn't know all about the whale shark thing. They're like apparently very rare. And apparently this whale shark, it got close to the Gazan shore. It's very rare. It's a symbol of wonder, all this kind of stuff. And it took the Gazans like 20 minutes to pull it out of the water and beat it to death. It's on video. Actually, should we play the video? Do we have a second? We should maybe. Yeah, we got it. It's cut $11,000. It's actually cut $43,000. Yeah, this is what we're talking about. Pulled out of the sea by fishermen, and then this happened. So it's totally dead. It's like a wonder of the world. There's there's some people were saying that they don't know if it was hunted or if it was pulled to shore. Regardless, it was butchered, apparently. And there's a lot of reactions to it. It's an endangered whale shark. And they're not normally near the coast in the Mediterranean, near the coast of Israel or Gaza. And it's it's like, you know, largest fish in the world, basically. So there that's kind of sad. It finally goes up. It's not Jaws. It's, you know, people done it, done it. Oh, no, you're in the shores of you're near the shallows of the Mediterranean. Go the other way. We have a lot more in store. Stephen Yates is going to be joining us because we have a million questions for him. The tariff crisis between the U.S. and China, the rare earth element, rare earth minerals fight, and more. Stick with us. It's our friends over at Amos Squared, a business I'm actually a little salty about. I'm a little salty because I didn't come up with it. It's such a great idea. Like, why did I think of this stuff? First off, everybody remembers all of the Hades that we went through during the Rona period where you legit could not get anything. You could not get a single caliber of nothing. But see, with ammo squared, you don't have to worry about any of this stuff because ammo squared makes it easy. It's America's ammunition reserve. It's a worry free solution. to collecting ammunition. I don't like to say stockpile because it scares the squares, but it's collecting your ammunition for the future and you avoid getting caught empty-handed. You can choose from over 70 calibers, set your monthly budget, and then they'll curate your supply automatically. So you set it, you forget it, and then you just ship it whenever you need it. It's a very secure climate control facility. It's going to keep your ammo fresh and safe. Until you decide to get it delivered. No minimums. No hidden fees. Free shipping on orders over $2.50, which is awesome. Visit AmmoSquared.com. It's where I go and secure your ammo supply for the future. Do not run out when it counts. Be smart like me. Stock up before training. Restock after to stay ready. That's AmmoSquared.com. Tell them Dana sent you.
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SPEAKER 05 :
Even things the ambassador said about you in the past, the Australian ambassador?
SPEAKER 03 :
I don't know anything about him. I mean, if he said bad, then maybe he'll like to apologize. I really don't know. Did an ambassador say something bad about him? Don't tell me. Where is he? Is he still working for you?
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER 03 :
You said bad?
SPEAKER 06 :
Before I took this position, Mr. President.
SPEAKER 03 :
I don't like you either. And I probably never will. Go ahead. Thank you.
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Just not even playing. I saw that live and it was hysterical because I thought, oh, my gosh, that guy's probably wishing he wasn't in the room right now. And he was. He was right there in the front, right there at the table. Welcome back to the program. Dana Lash with you. That is POTUS, who was meeting with the Australian prime minister just a little bit earlier today. One of the things that came up for topic of discussion was the tariff battle with China. Rare earth minerals. Very interesting meeting. And Kane and I were talking about it on break. I feel like a lot of what the president has been doing with regards to foreign policy is less about what the left, I think, wants him to focus on Russia, Russia, Russia. But all the moves that he seems to be taking indicate, at least to us, he's forcing China out. The moves that he's taking in Venezuela, the moves with Australia and some of the I mean, he's meeting with Xi Jinping and South Korea coming up. And then he said in this meeting, which we're going to talk to Stephen Yates about here in a minute, he's going to China in the first of the year. I don't know. I that. Because we don't trust China. Let's go ahead and bring in our very good friend Stephen Yates, who is a senior research fellow at the Heritage Foundation following China. And he served in not one but two presidential administrations, deputy national security advisor to former VP Dick Cheney, as well as working in the Trump administration. And he joins us now via video. My good friend, it's always such a pleasure to have you. I tell me about this. The discussion that he had with the prime minister of Australia today, because I to me, I got it like it's a very dramatic. It's some of its stagecraft to China to send another message to China. These are our allies. This is what we're doing. You either work with us or we're going to box you out. Did you is that pretty accurate from your read?
SPEAKER 22 :
Well, it is accurate, but really this is one of those things that somewhat quintessentially Trump. I mean, there's like six things going on at once in this meeting. On the one hand, there's the false narrative that the United States is somehow isolationist, but the president is expending more time on foreign affairs than any president I have ever known of, not just known. uh and then there's the sort of lie that america is anti-ally and yet we're going doing amazing things for a lot of different allies sometimes whether they like it or not uh and including including this one and so there was a lot of talk in the australian press about president trump dissing this august arrangement that would provide submarines to australia you make very very clear not only is he going to do it there are accelerating that and he signed documents and even in this in this exchange the press is asking him what are you serious are you going to do it I was like what more do you need to do he's here we're saying yes we're signing documents and so it's moving forward but we have a lefty politician in Australia that sometimes does lefty stuff which I'm not a super fan of And neither is President Trump and says some things that are nasty about Trump from time to time. So with that, you never know how things are going to go. But he was very reassuring on the alliance. He was very reassuring on the submarines and on this rare earths minerals. It's very, very important that the United States and Australia work together on it. The key bottleneck, though, is not the source of the minerals. The key bottleneck is the processing. And that's where we have to accelerate much, much more. And hopefully allies will be on board and investing in exactly that.
SPEAKER 13 :
That makes sense because I read somewhere that we have, to quantify it, like $12 trillion worth of rare earth minerals in the United States. And it's not so much that it's a rare thing. It's that extraction process, which is... very dangerous and it can be, you know, pretty pollutant. And one of the reasons why China monopolized it.
SPEAKER 22 :
You can't pray to the sun god of climate change and carbon counting and process these rare earths. So you have to choose. Do you want smart devices in your life or do you want to pray to a false god?
SPEAKER 13 :
You know, I'm not going to borrow Kane's tinfoil hat, but Stephen, it does feel like if you were China and you wanted to keep your monopoly over the one thing that you could keep your monopoly over, you would introduce this climate change garbage and promote that in the United States and Western nations to try to get them to weaken themselves so that you can set yourself up as, you know, the de facto king of all rare earth minerals because you have that process.
SPEAKER 22 :
Don't tell anybody. They just might be trying to do that.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, exactly.
SPEAKER 22 :
Might use some social media platforms to manipulate you into going along. If you're one of those dough headed people that like participates in no kings rallies and stuff.
SPEAKER 13 :
Oh, that's right. So I heard I heard him correctly. Right. POTUS said that after the first of the year, it looks like he's going to China to meet with Xi Jinping. What is your thought on that?
SPEAKER 22 :
Yeah. So, Dana, this is something that has been in the works for a long time. The president's talked about it basically before coming back into office, that this will be a priority. And as the trade negotiations were moving over the course of this year, it seemed like that might be close. There had been a lot of talk from the White House that it might be in the late summer or in the fall. It was after a recent exchange with Xi Jinping by phone that it got put after the APEC meeting. And the APEC meeting itself was called into doubt. The president has buttoned that down, at least from his point of view, that they will have some incidental contact, maybe a meeting at APEC. Today, he's talking as if they'll have a big deal at APEC. I don't find it likely that first in-person meetings during a term in office are where big deals are had, but we're in uncharted waters. But he has said repeatedly that he intends to visit China. He's held out early 2026 as that window and invited Xi Jinping to come later in 2026. In a sense, I hope that never happens. But let's get through the first wickets first, APEC, and then whether the president goes to China in early 26.
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Because I know they're going to be meeting in South Korea coming up in a couple of weeks. He's meeting Xi Jinping there, which is interesting, too, because South Korea is We're allies with them, but at the same time, they've been doing a number of very weird things. Their leadership. And then, of course, there's the stories about the persecutions of Christians and how you can you know, they won't allow protests outside of the Chinese embassy, but outside of the U.S. embassy. I mean, it's it's I guess it makes sense that that's the stage for that meetup.
SPEAKER 22 :
Well, this APEC hosting is on a rotating basis, and all of the APEC members except for one is allowed to host. And, of course, that one is Taiwan. They're never allowed to host. But it's Korea's turn, and it will be in southern South Korea this time, not in the capital of Seoul. And so there isn't a lot to read into going to Korea for it other than it does showcase a new government in South Korea. And it is a bit of a mixed bag. It's another left-leaning political force. Its leader sounds pragmatic and okay when meeting with President Trump in the Oval Office, but then there's this other news that you're referring to where they need to clean that stuff up if we're wrong in reading it. They better clarify where we're wrong. But the APEC is like the UN. It's not the entity that matters as much as it's an opportunity for a lot of different meetings efficiently. And so the president's side meetings there are going to be more important than the meeting, the visit to Korea itself, most likely.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, that makes sense. That makes sense, too. What do you make of China posting? They said that they posted 5.2% GDP growth during the tariff. I feel like they're bluffing with that. I don't believe that.
SPEAKER 22 :
Yeah, I think there's a three-letter word that begins with L and ends with E with an I in the middle that might describe what that statistical magic is. There's tons of evidence, and people can ask Grok go to X. There's lots of evidence that at the highest, China's economy is moving at four something percent, and that's probably an overestimate. That's kind of where the consensus among those who are trying to read things imperfectly are. So that's below what their forecasts are. It's below what they need. And so they have an economic problem. strain going on, if not a crisis. And that's some of the context of this rare earth play. They know that this leverage isn't going to last forever. They know their economy isn't chugging along as people might want to say. And so they're trying to strike now to see what they can get. And I hope that President Trump is wise enough to hold his cards. He's fond of saying who has what cards. We should hold our cards for a bit. Let them feel a little bit of this pain.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, I think I mean, obviously, we can weather it way better than they can. But at the same time, you know, they're they're communists, so they don't make decisions like normal thinking people do.
SPEAKER 22 :
They don't. But every once in a while, the Chinese people can surprise us. I'm not saying this is what will happen this time. But in the massive covid lockdowns that China had and on our worst day, it was nothing like covid zero. And China was there. There was this 10 day protest where people just held up a blank piece of paper. And the numbers of people that were detected around China just going out and having this blank white paper protest, that was enough to force Xi Jinping to have to back away from his COVID zero protests. So every once in a while, the Chinese people say no mas. And this economic downturn and the strain, the picking fights with neighbors. It could be that he's reaching a point where the people are saying, we're kind of had it with you. We'd rather go back to the good old days, the Americans buying our crap and let us get along with our economic growth.
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Yeah. Last talking with our friend Stephen Yates at Yates comes on X is where you can find him. This I keep watching because we had another strike on a Venezuelan boat and you and I've talked quite a bit about because I think China is our greatest geopolitical, the greatest geopolitical threat the United States is facing right now. And we know that they're trying to get a toehold in South America, Central America, Venezuela, this strike on this drug boat. I know I was joking to Kane. I'm like, how much you want to bet that that was probably like that boat and everybody on it was financed by China because they are very involved. And, you know, you you've talked about this a lot as a fentanyl father and going into the anniversary of this. And, you know, we we love your family. We're praying for you. We know this time of year is very tough. Is that is that. I don't think it's a stretch of logic to think that one of the reasons that POTUS might be beefing up so much with this issue is to send a message to China because of their relationship with Venezuela.
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No, Dana, well thank you for noting the sad anniversary the family is going through. It was two years ago we lost my daughter Christina to fentanyl, and of course I will not be apologetic at all about calling out anyone that is involved in this deadly trade. And for sure, Venezuela and Trinidad and Aragua and others are involved in a lot of this, and China does take advantage of the bad regimes in our hemisphere to use leverage against us and so the maduro regime is grasping at straws to hold on they beg for better deals from the trump administration and i'm somewhat grateful the trump administration has not accepted the bait and i also shed no tears for these boats going down there's no innocent collateral damage in in these things going down And it is an important signal. So whether it's honing in on the ports around the Panama Canal, hitting these boats and saying we're dead serious about this, securing our border. And then I think finally, really, really engaging some of the good countries in the region, whether it's Malaysia, Argentina, to turn the tides on also rare earths that are down there that we ought to be going for. I'd give the administration credit for doing more in its first year than a lot have in their entire term. to go after this in our hemisphere. But this isn't about necessarily regime change and the sort of arguments about neoconservatism. This is, I think, hard power and America first of protecting our homeland, but doing it at a distance so that we don't have to have Americans suffering while we're doing the necessary.
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Amen to that. This is shaping up to be, in terms of a first year for presidential administration, foreign policy-wise, one of the most interesting, I think, of our lifetimes that we have ever seen. And, you know, who's to say what's going to happen in the next couple of years? But we're grateful that you're with us, though, to help explain it and put the perspective on it. Stephen Yates, our very good friend at Yates Comms. We love your family, Stephen, and I know we'll be talking with you again soon. God bless you.
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Thank you so much, Dana. Take good care.
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So this guy who, what gets me is, I hate AI, by the way. If you, like, search for this, AI is going to tell you there's no evidence that someone shot a go-back-to-Haiti at Virginia Lieutenant Governor Winsome Sears during a James Madison University football game. Kane, what was that? That was a guy who shot a go-back-to-Haiti to Virginia Lieutenant Governor Winsome Sears during a James Madison University football game. What's it talking about? What in the world? I that's the left for you, though. That is the absolute left. And that that's like all over social media. Now. I hate saying this, but like reverse, wouldn't the left be calling for apology, et cetera? But yet that's horrible. Can you imagine you're a grown man and you're sitting there in the stands and you're screaming that at a conservative Republican? woman who is black because you're progressive i just i get so tired of the progressive mentality and it just it gets so grating after a while all right today and stupidity came before i run out of your time mr robert de niro oh no he has things to say about stephen miller go ahead
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We see it, we see it, we see it all the time. He will not want to leave. He set it up with his, I guess he's the Goebbels of the cabinet. Stephen Miller. That's horrible. He's a Nazi. What? Yes, he is. And he's Jewish. He should be ashamed of himself.
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Wow. Wow.
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What a jerk.
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Sure thing, Bobby.
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Holy cow. What a horrible person. Robert De Niro. You know, Trump left once already, 2020. I guess they forget that. Folks, that does it for us tonight. Find us over at Substack, Chapter & Verse, YouTube, Facebook. Like and subscribe. I'm out tomorrow, but back Wednesday behind the mic. Have a great night.
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In this episode, we delve into the current political landscape, where hypocrisy seemingly knows no bounds. As former White House National Security Advisor John Bolton faces charges for the very actions he condemned President Trump for, the question emerges, how can one's public accusations juxtapose against their private actions? Join us as we explore the spectacle of political projection and the media frenzy that accompanies it.
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From the wild world of D.C. politics to America's culture clash, brace yourself for the reality check you've been waiting for. The one and only Mike Gallagher.
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It's always frustrating when evil appears to flourish. We've seen a lot of evil in America these days. I was watching last night the New York City mayoral debate. More on that in a bit. Zoran Mamdani just smiling and smiling. How many mosques did you visit when you were governor, Governor Cuomo? Because evidently that's the litmus test in New York City, a city that was upended by Muslim extremists on September 11th. Now you've got the leading candidate for mayor wanting to know how many mosques one of his opponents did or didn't visit. Holy cow. Golly, I mean, it's made my skin crawl. It's the smiling that gets me. The inappropriate smiling. It's like the character from Silence of the Lambs. What was his name? I know it was Anthony Hopkins. But Hannibal Lecter, of course. Hannibal Lecter. I ate him with a nice bottle of Chianti and some fava beans. Fava beans. Holy cow. Anyway, we got to try to have a little grace, some dignity. I've got so many things I'm concerned about Mike Pence. Is the stuff about Mike Pence true? John Bolton yesterday was indicted by a federal grand jury on 18 counts. The indictment says that Bolton, the former Trump administration official who turned on Trump and... was vicious about Trump's classified docs case, is now indeed the hunted on the same charges. Government says that Bolton shared a thousand plus pages of diary-like entries about his day-to-day activities as national security advisor. For Trump, he unlawfully retained documents, writings, and notes relating to the national defense, including information classified up to top secret in his home in Montgomery County, Maryland. Holy cow. The clips of Bolton blasting Trump for mishandling classified documents would take nine days to play. He couldn't wait to run to all the networks to blast Trump for mishandling classified documents. Now he is facing, frankly, the rest of his life in prison over the same charges. And I just don't, I can't wrap my brain around, I mean, if it's true, and everybody's innocent until proven guilty, but if it's true, why would anybody run on national TV and accuse President Trump of doing what you're guilty of doing? That's psychotic. You just lay low. You don't go on TV. You don't have to go on TV. You know, I know this is a shock to Hugh Hewitt. You don't have to go on TV. I play. I kid. I love my buddy Hugh. He loves his TV gig. He's very proud of being a staple of MSNBC and Now Fox News. You know, Hugh started his career in California on PBS. So once a TV guy, always a TV guy. And people who go on TV, they just love it. They crave it. They got to have it. It's like their oxygen. Got to be on the TV. Okay, good for you. Knock yourself out. Be on the TV. But why would you go on the TV? of accusing your nemesis, the guy you hate, Donald Trump, when you yourself are guilty, apparently, allegedly, of the same charges. Who does that? Who would do that? My pal Mark Davis says it's because they don't think they're going to get caught. Is that the only answer? Help me out with this. Here's John Bolton. Let me give you an example of this. This is John Bolton because he ran to all the Trump-hating networks he could. He went to ABC, CBS, MSNBC, and here he was on CNN back in the day when they were trying to bring Trump down on classified document charges.
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I think it's a devastating indictment. It's very powerful in the way that it's portrayed, but it's also very narrow, very targeted. The government didn't throw everything in the kitchen sink at the wall. It has focused this in a way that I think, as a matter of law, is going to be very difficult for the president to resist. I think the real question is the question of timing and scheduling. If Donald Trump were an honest man, if he were an innocent man, he'd be saying, I want the trial within 30 days. I want this cloud removed from over my head. I want this stain on my reputation removed. So we'll wait and see what Donald Trump does. I think he'll try and postpone it to after the 2024 election. So my suggestion to Jack Smith and the Justice Department is go lean on the Manhattan district attorney and get him to move his trial until after the election. This trial should take precedence. We'll find out whether Alvin Bragg is a real prosecutor or a political hack. The answer to their complaint about a double standard, the question they should be asked is, even though Biden has escaped scot-free, Clinton has escaped scot-free, fill-in-the-blank has escaped scot-free, is the answer to the double standard to let Donald Trump escape scot-free? Is the answer to the double standard to revert to no standard at all?
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Now that's one of many, okay? I could play those clips all day long. I could play—Bolton's giving the prosecutors advice on how to take down Donald Trump. When, if the indictment is correct, and if Bolton is convicted, he knew all along he's up to his eyeballs in guilt over the same thing. So can I turn to the smartest people in the world, my audience? I turn to you on this Friday. We made it to Friday, October 17th. Welcome in, by the way. We're in the Relief Factor studios. Number is 800-655-MIKE. Let me turn to the smartest audience in the universe. You tell me what drives somebody to go on TV. Pointing a finger of accusation at another human being, like Donald Trump, when you yourself very well are guilty as sin of the same, if not worse, charges. How does that happen? Is it psychosis? I'm serious. That's all I'm left with. You've got to be so mentally ill. This is what we mean by Trump derangement syndrome. It makes people sick. It is a sickness. It's a disease. It's an illness. You're going to go on CNN and tell Jake Tapper? How disgusted you are and how righteously indignant you are at Donald Trump when you did it yourself? Help me out. You tell me what leads a John Bolton or a John Brennan or a James Comey or any one of these other clowns, what leads them to think they have to go on national television with the ultimate act of projection, projecting onto somebody else what they're guilty of. Can you tell me what lets somebody do that? I need your advice. I need your guidance. I need your wisdom. I need your clarity. 800-655-MIKE. One number does it all. You can text us. You can call us. But put your voice front and center here on the Mike Gallagher Show because I've got to figure this one out. 800-655-6453. I have figured out one thing to keep my immune system up and running. Tracy was in here hacking up a lung. I said, Tracy, out, out, out. You know how much I care about family, tradition, and the kind of meals that bring people together. That's why I love telling you about Tri-Tales Premium Beef. They're a fifth-generation ranching family down in Texas, real ranchers, not corporations, and they put together something really special, the Autumn Butcher Box. Now, this box is about more than just dinner. It's about gathering your loved ones, creating memories, and feeding your legacy with beef raised the right way. From their ranch to your table, it's a taste of tradition that reminds us what family meals are supposed to be. And when you order this Autumn Butcher Box between now and October 19th, you get a pound of steak meat as a free bonus. Tri-Tales also still has my favorite cuts with the Gallagher Patriot Box just for you. Get one or both and see what beef is supposed to taste like for yourself. As always, you get free shipping on all first orders and an automatic 10% off. Don't wait. Order the Autumn Butcher Box or my Gallagher Patriot Box today. Go to tribebeef.com slash Gallagher. Share in the legacy. tribebeef.com slash Gallagher. That's tribebeef.com slash Gallagher.
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Not all Democrats are crazy, but the left that controls their party is, as I think represented by this individual who looks like he's going to be the next mayor of one of our great cities. So, yeah, I do think that's a concern. But the country gets it. The country has common sense. The country understands what President Trump says all the time. We're the party of common sense. It is crazy to defund the police. It's crazy not to have a border. And it's crazy to shut down the government because you won't vote for what you voted for six months earlier.
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In the Relief Factor studios on Salem News Channel and Salem Radio Network, here's Mike.
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I really hesitate to bring this up. Mitch McConnell took another nasty fall yesterday. How old is Mitch McConnell now, guys? Can you give me his age, please? And I even hate to play the video, but look, he is a powerful, important member of the federal government. I don't want to dunk on this. I don't want to mock him in any way, shape, or form. I all want us to live long, long, healthy, happy lives. But online, at least, the refrain was continually, how old are these folks supposed to get before They're just too old. I mean, he's 83 years old. Some of these folks are in their late 80s. How old's Chuck Grassley? I mean, you could take the average age of about, I don't know, 20 of them, and I think you'd come to 85. I'm going to not, and please, we're not making fun of him. We're not mocking him. I don't even like playing the video, but I guess it's important that you're seeing it on Salem News Channel right now. Or not. So Chuck Grassley is, hey, good guy. Man's 92 years old. You want to work when you're 92 years old? You want to work when you're 83 years old. How old do you want? I mean, I don't know how many years I've got in me. I think I've got another maybe 10, I hope. I'd like to work until I'm 75. Is that too old? Maybe that's too old. I don't know. It's a tough question. Is 92 okay with you? to be a United States Senator. Mitch McConnell now has fallen down repeatedly in public. Mitch McConnell has frozen repeatedly. He's had some kind of episode where he just stands at the podium and stares off into space. Nobody knows what in the heck's wrong with him. Nancy Pelosi's gone down. How old's Nancy Pelosi? I mean, give me a list. of these senators and congressmen. And it is well beyond a normal point of when you would think you'd continue to work. Nancy Pelosi's 85 years old. You got the clip from yesterday, Christian? It's probably worth playing again. We could put this on a loop. One of Mike Lindell's intrepid reporters over at Lindell TV was asking Nancy Pelosi about whether or not she holds any culpability or accountability, should be held accountable for the actions around January 6th and the failure to have the National Guard go in. Do we have that clip or not, guys? Okay, we're working on it now. She's 85 years old. This is an 85-year-old angry... elderly woman. And this is what it sounded like this week.
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Congresswoman Pelosi, are you at all concerned that the new January 6th committee will find you liable for that day? Are you at all concerned about the new January 6th committee finding you liable for that day? Why did you refuse the National Guard on January 6th?
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Shut up. I did not refuse the National Guard. The president didn't send it. Why are you coming here with Republican talking points as if you're a serious journalist?
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The American people want to know. We still have questions. Thank you.
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Shut up, says the 85-year-old grandma who obviously lost her cool. You think it's appropriate for a congresswoman to tell a young female reporter to shut up? Look at these ages. Maxine Waters, 87. Steny Hoyer, 86. James Clyburn, 85. Mitch McConnell, 83. Bernie Sanders, 83. I mean, I'll start at a number. It ought to be, like, I think 80. Is 80 too old? Oh, I know the Trump haters are going to remind us of Trump's age. He's in office now. He sure isn't going to step down because of his age. And I only wish I had his constitution. But when you see Mitch McConnell go down like a ton of bricks yesterday, scared the heck out of me. I thought, oh my gosh. And especially when you're that old. You fall like that, you could have absolute permanent damage. Broken hip, broken legs. I mean, he's had black eyes and bruised. How old is too old? I'm trying to think of occupations. Look, there's not a lot of 85-year-olds in my world. Can you think of anybody on air, guys, who's 87 years old? Or 92? I wonder what the average age is of the people over on 60 Minutes. Who's the oldest one over there? How old's Leslie Stahl? Let's play that game. How old's Leslie Stahl? She's one of the older ones, I think. I mean, I really do. At 65, compared to this list... I feel like a spring chicken. Leslie Stahl is 80. Is she 83? So, you know, she's still cranking along. It's a tough issue. But let's be honest. The U.S. Senate has turned into a retirement community. The United States Senate has a bunch of, what is it when you're in your 80s? Is it octogenarian? A bunch of octogenarians. Democrats and Republicans. And I'm sensitive to this. I'm sure we've got plenty of octogenarians listening to our show and watching today. And I appreciate you very much. I want to be where you are. I want to be happy, healthy, and wise. But I don't know that I want to be working if I'm falling down all the time. If I kept slumping over on the show, I think you'd probably say maybe it's time for Mike to hang it up. Well, all the text messages on the MyPillow text line. Ohio, they've been trying to keep the grift going. Colorado, they're riding the gravy train. It's not like they're actually working. Delaware, McConnell's a prime example of why there should be term limits. President has a term limit. Why not them? And finally from Louisville, Kentucky wants Mitch McConnell out. Time to retire. Ted is in Maitland, Florida. Hey, Ted, how are you?
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Dazed, confused, and prone to wandering.
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I hear you. You and me both. You and me both. I'll join the club.
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Key point. Are they old or are they elderly? Grassley is old, but he is not elderly. McConnell is elderly. Biden was elderly. Trump is old.
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Yeah, yeah. It's a very important distinction, and you're right. That's a good way to put it. I mean, there are people, but is Grassley old but not elderly? He's 92 years old, Ted.
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He is vital. He does the full Grassley every campaign, and the guy is sharp in committee. He is old, not elderly. The key distinction is calendar versus function.
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All right, but here's a distinction that may not be a distinction with a difference.
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By the way, I'm a doctor, so I understand this stuff better than many.
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Oh, and I know a doctor very well who gets this so well because he specializes in longevity for seniors. And I'm into this right now, so you're right in my wheelhouse. How long do you want to work, doctor?
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I got a sensory neuropathy, so I wasn't able to practice my specialty.
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Okay, then. All right. Thank you, Ted. No idea. No idea. It's got to be me. It's Friday. No idea. I'm just trying so hard. I got all hell breaking loose around me. At one point today, you should know this, everybody on my team yelled at me at one point. So I'm fragile. Robert's yelling at me about the monitors. Tracy's yelling at me about the color scheme. Christian's yelling at me because Jasmine's covering for him, and Christian had to walk across the room to talk to me. Last time I checked, I'm the host. I'm the brand. Oh, is it Friday? I was just asking a simple question. Hey, Dr. Ted, how long do you want to work? I'm retarded. Okay? Okay? I think he meant retired, not retarded. And I don't like to even say retarded, but I think that word is back now because that's all I see on social media. Isn't it funny all the words that are back that you're not supposed to use? I was thinking about that today. All these words that are supposed to be politically incorrect. I remember when my Denise called an Asian woman an oriental. I said, honey, you can't say oriental. It's Asian. Denise was so embarrassed. Hey, Cousin Brucie, somebody just pointed out from South Carolina. Cousin Brucie, Bruce Morrow, he's 90 years old. How about me being 90 years old on the show, huh? 25 years from now. I think I could do it. I think you got it in me. You ready to drop up to 20 pounds or more by the new year? Have you been struggling with belly fat forever? You know, the older you get, the harder it is to say goodbye to those unwanted pounds. PHD Weight Loss cracked the code. They have a metabolic reset system that's a science-backed way to get your body to burn fat first. Look, I've tried everything my whole life. I counted points. I counted calories. I did crazy starvation diets. Then I met Dr. Ashley Lucas, and I learned all about her brilliant program called PhD Weight Loss, the only program that guarantees your success and your results. If I can lose over 50 pounds and keep it off over a couple of years, you can too. Everybody can. When you call right now, they'll waive your consultation fee, you'll get two extra weeks free, and they'll cover the cost of your food during the program. Just for booking, you'll get Dr. Ashley's book, Five Steps to Reset the Scale. Hurry, call today, 864-644-1900, Ph.D. Weight Loss, 864-644-1900, or visit their website at myphdweightloss.com.
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Okay, we had a little glitch while I was trying to tell you about Dr. Dennis Black's book, so we apologize. We're back. I think everything's working again. Came in here in such a good mood to lift me up. Make sure you load my phone lines up. How old's too old to work in the Senate? Simple question. How old's too old?
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85? 90?
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83? 80? Does Mitch McConnell's fall yesterday scream term limits to you? Is that... And I remember years and years and years ago, Fritz Hollings, one of the first politicians I ever interviewed. He was a Democrat from South Carolina. Legendary, colorful figure. And I asked him once about term limits. He said, Mr. Gallagher... We have term limits. Every time the voters go to vote, that's a term limit. Well, that's one way to look at it. So you tell me, I'm asking you, you tell me, how old is too old to be a senator? How old is too old to be in the U.S. House of Representatives? Do you have an answer? Here's a text from Tennessee. Government officials should have to be tested for fitness, for duty evaluation, and alcohol and drug testing. And here's the nicest text of the day that puts me in a good mood despite all the... franticness surrounding me right now, all the hecticness. South Carolina writes, if you're still hosting the Mike Gallagher show at 90, I'll be 87 and still listening. We've got this. You've made my day, South Carolina. Thank you. And again, we got a little glitch while I was telling you about Dr. Black and his book. You go to roughgreens.com right now. Get a free Jumpstart trial bag for your dog or your cat. R-U-F-F. Go to roughgreens.com. You cover the shipping costs and then click on the book tab. It'll take you right to Amazon where you can get Dr. Black's new book. Or better still, you can just text the keyword ROUGH. to the MyPillow text line, which is 800-655-MIKE. Text ROUGH to 800-655-6453. We'll send you back the link to my terrific conversation with Dr. Dennis Black that I had this week. He's such a good guy. You're going to want to hear what he has to say for all of your dog's advice. And you're going to want to order his new book, A Natural Path to Pet Health. Here's a text from San Antonio. No one has any business working for our U.S. government in that capacity after the age of 80. They ought to be spending quality time with their grandchildren during the golden years. Brian in Bowling Green, Alabama. Brian, how old is too old? Do you think this screams term limits?
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Oh, yes. Yeah, I do not understand how come there's not term limits and they shouldn't be getting paid if they're not in session. If everybody else is not getting paid, they shouldn't be getting paid.
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I agree with you. Absolutely. Why do they get paid and they're making, you know, the Democrats are forcing thousands and thousands of employees not to be paid? 800-655-MIKE. Florida, no age limit, 20 years period. You serve 20 years, you're out. It's a good question. And, again, I'm sorry to play – I hate playing the video of Mitch McConnell taking the spill yesterday. I'm glad he wasn't apparently seriously hurt. Look, you can only be at that age and fall that many times before somebody's going to – I mean, where's his wife? This is like Joe Biden with Joe and the cognitive decline there. Hey, as we head into the weekend, let me remind you about our campaign this month to support the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews in their critically important work. Now that all the living hostages are back home safe, the fellowship is more active than ever, on the ground helping men, women, and children. Here's IFCJ President Yael Eckstein.
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Breaking now on the Mike Gallagher Show.
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So the former White House National Security Advisor, John Bolton, surrendered earlier today to federal authorities. He was indicted yesterday on 18 counts related to the improper handling of classified materials. He was photographed leaving his home in Bethesda, Maryland earlier. He didn't comment to reporters, but he sure had a lot to say back in the day, didn't he? I was watching in amazement all the clips, all the video clips of Bolton blasting President Trump, who he turned on with a vengeance, daggers out over a classified document case. Oh, it's very serious, he said. Tsk, tsk. You've got to throw the book at Donald Trump. All while, according to the authorities, knowing full well he was guilty of the same thing. It's like this Letitia James, the Attorney General in New York. She's now been indicted on the exact same crimes that she was trying to nail Trump on. And she's got another apparent fugitive criminal living in one of her houses. I wonder how many fugitives she's got and how many homes. It's the nuttiest thing I think I've ever seen. Just how many... This is like the... The Bonnie and Clyde gang. This Tish James, boy, she comes from some fine stock, doesn't she? We've got a grandniece over here who's an X-rated performer who's a felon. She's got another grandniece over there who's been a fugitive from justice from North Carolina. It's like a crime family. But she's strong. She will not bend. She's going to get Trump. All of these people are... And, gosh, the Bolton story and all that's being revealed about the FBI spying on the Trump administration. Did you follow last night the accusation that former Vice President Mike Pence was conspiring against Trump? There was allegedly... And I hope this isn't true. I don't want to believe this about Mike Pence. But something happened to him too. I'm telling you, historians are going to study Trump derangement syndrome. It takes nice people and makes them vicious. It takes smart people and makes them stupid. It takes... funny people and makes them unfunny. You think Jimmy Kimmel's funny? You think Colbert is funny? These people, they've lost their marbles. Think Kathy Griffin is funny anymore? You check out Miss Trump's severed head, Kathy Griffin? Look, she used to be funny. Listen to her her her pronouncement this week on social media.
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People are calling this protest the no King's Day because Trump thinks he's a king. And, you know, he's not. He's barely a president. In fact, guess what? I'm going to say something that's going to get me in trouble. I don't think he won in a free and fair election. you heard me. I'm coming up and saying it myself. I don't care if that means I look crazy because, um, Elon Musk, who's this other Nazi guy running around town, who owns X. And a lot of people think he's a genius, but he's not. He's like a fake genius. Anyway, he's a, but he's a professional Nazi in my humble opinion. And, um, He's good friends with Trump. And at one point, I don't know if you remember, but he was giving out million-dollar checks to people if they would vote for Trump.
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Turn it off. Turn it off. I can't take one more word of that. I can't take one more word. There's not even a commentary needed after that. It's a sad thing to witness. Don Lemon used to fly high on CNN. Now he takes to the streets and he does man-on-the-street interviews where people just rip into him. He never gets the answer he wants. And here he was on a podcast, I guess his own, urging... Now, you know, understand it's against the law for an illegal immigrant to have a gun. In fact, in the state of Illinois, in the illegal immigrant criminal roundup, they got a guy who was a police officer. An actual police officer who they caught was here illegally. And even in the car... Do we have that clip of the guy in the front seat of the car when he was stopped and arrested or detained by ICE for likely deportation? Check this out. I don't even know what city this is in, but I know it's in Pritzker, Illinois. Oh, in Pritzker. I haven't even gotten to Pritzker yet. He was revealed to have won $1.4 million as a degenerate gambler. That's right. He's a $1.4 million gambler. Card-playing winner from Las Vegas. Governor Big Boy. I mean, these are all like scoundrels. It's like a cast of characters right out of some weird Quentin Tarantino movie. So, yeah, I know I'm bouncing around here a little bit. Here's the cop, right? Do we have the cop that this is the guy... I'm sorry I don't know what city he's in. I know he's in the state of Illinois. I know he was a police officer. As an illegal, he admits he wasn't allowed to carry a firearm, but of course he carried a firearm while on duty as a police officer. Here's what he said in the ICE vehicle. So how long have you been a police officer?
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Since January 8th. January 8th. This year? Correct. I just finished the academy. You just finished the academy, okay. All right.
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Just to confirm though too, so they hired you on, you had work authorization? Correct. And you were able to carry a firearm?
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No. Okay. On duty, yes. Off duty, no.
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So on duty, you could carry a firearm?
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State of Illinois, you need a forward and a CCW to carry a weapon off duty. But on duty, you could? Correct.
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Wow.
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Did you hear that? Yeah, it's crazy. Did you hear that? That's courtesy of Real America's Voice. And the ICE guy, the ICE officer made a video and said, did you carry a firearm? Nope. Nope. Because he can't. Because he's an illegal immigrant. An illegal immigrant can't. Own a firearm. But as a police officer, I could. That's the system the Democrats are defending. That's what the No Kings people are going to be protesting for. That's what the No Kings people are mad about. That a guy who isn't even allowed to have a firearm in his personal life, but is a cop because somehow he snuck through the system And he was allowed to carry a weapon as an illegal immigrant police officer. We are in Looney Tunes. That's Hanover Park, Illinois, I'm told, by one of our great texters in Chicagoland. Incidentally, I can't wait to be in Chicago Saturday, November 8th at the big Freedom Summit. You can go to 560theanswer.com for tickets. Also, I think they have freedomsummitchicago.com is the website to order your tickets, and they are going fast. It's a day-long event. I'll be there along with Scott Jennings and Dr. Ben Carson, of course, the great Dan Proft and Sean Thompson. A whole bunch of great folks are going to be there for the big Chicago Freedom Summit. Go to 560theanswer.com or freedomsummitchicago.com and order your tickets Saturday, November the 8th at the Hyatt there in Itasca. I'll see you there. Okay, keep in mind, an illegal immigrant isn't allowed to have a weapon, correct? By law. Check out Broken Don Lemon.
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Black people, brown people of all stripes, whether you're an Indian American or a Mexican American or whoever you are, go out in your place where you live. and get a gun legally, get a license to carry legally. Because when you have people knocking on your door, and taking you away without due process as a citizen, isn't that what the Second Amendment was written for? Go back and read what the Second Amendment says. And perhaps it will knock some sense in the heads of these people who are saying, well, it's all great. I don't believe they're doing it without due process. They're asking people for papers. They're not really beating people up. These people are doing things that are illegal. Nobody is illegal. It is a misdemeanor to cross the border.
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How about that? Hey, go get guns, illegals. Go get guns and shoot an ICE officer when they're coming to your door. Because that's what the Second Amendment is for, according to Don Lemon. These are broken, pathetic, despicable people. Up and down the aisle. Pritzker. Pritzker. Oh, my gosh.
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1.4.
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Hey, do you play blackjack? When's the last time you won $1.4 million at the blackjack table? He's a card player. And he just sheepishly said, oh, I got lucky. I got lucky. Way to go, Governor Big Boy. You're doing Illinois proud. You understand, these people are laughingstocks. J.B. Pritzker is a punchline. He's a joke. He's a clown. And they talk so tough. Oh, they love to talk tough. And incidentally, Pritzker is now threatening Tom Holman, saying, well, we're going to remember what you guys did when we get back in power.
