Logan Sekulow delves into the changing landscape of social media as platforms like Facebook reconsider their content policies. With insights into bipartisan cooperation in the Senate, the show provides a comprehensive look at the ways political dynamics are shifting. As Tulsi Gabbard faces hurdles in her nomination, the ACLJ community rallies to ensure her confirmation, discussing the importance of having trusted figures in critical intelligence roles.
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keeping you informed and engaged now more than ever this is Sekulow we want to hear from you share and post your comments or call 1-800-684-3110
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And now your host, Logan Sekulow. Welcome to Sekulow. Hopefully you're watching on YouTube, on Rumble, or maybe on the Salem News Channel, which we are now live on every day. If you're not a part of the Salem News Channel, you should check it out. See what they're doing over there, our friends at Salem. We've been on the network for about a year, but now we are live. Now noon to 1 p.m. each and every weekday. So find us there on Salem News Channel. I did also want to take a minute to thank everyone who signed up and became an ACLJ member. Champion, over the last couple days, we've been promoting that a lot, and I encourage you right now, if you can, if you have the money right now, as we head into a very important week, and we'll discuss that in a second, a very important week in terms of all of the confirmations that are going to start happening, the hearings that are going to start happening. we could use your support here at the ACLJ. And you can become an ACLJ champion. That is someone who gives on a recurring monthly basis. Or if you can give a one-time donation, do it as well. Just go to ACLJ.org to do it today. But Will, it's an important week coming up next week.
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That's right. And as we look ahead, as we approach the inauguration of President Trump as the 47th President of the United States, the Senate, who has already been sworn in, were sworn in just at the beginning of this January, They are moving forward. They are going to have these hearings while they can't vote on the nomination until President Trump has been sworn in. They can begin to hold their hearings and get everything ready so that on January 20th, they can begin to start to vote, vote out of committee and then to the full Senate. fulfilling their advice and consent role. We know in this week ahead, we have Pete Hegseth and Pam Bondi are going to start hearings. We also know that Tom Cotton, who is the head of the Senate Intelligence Committee, is pushing for the CIA Director John Ratcliffe hearings to begin, as well as the next Director of National Intelligence, Tulsi Gabbard, for her hearings to begin. So we will be following it all closely. We will be reporting on it and bringing you information here and giving our analysis as we watch these hearings in this week ahead. But it is something that we are very focused on. If you go to aclj.org slash petitions, There is a petition there where you can support these nominations. And when you sign that petition, our government affairs team makes sure that the senators see that. We say the ACLJ is bringing this many members, have signed this petition, and they want you to confirm President Trump's nominees. And we will even break it down by state many times. If a certain senator from a certain state, we have a large portion of our audience that has signed that petition, be like, look how many of your constituents want you to move forward with President Trump's nominees so that we can begin this fight to restore the America that we fought for.
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Right. It's going to be a big week, so make sure you stay tuned. Obviously, we are just a few days now from President Trump being inaugurated in Washington, D.C. It is a crazy time. I think it feels like it happened. The election was 100 years ago. It also feels like it happened just yesterday. And it's hard to believe that we are already here today. midway through the month of January heading towards inauguration day. It's pretty wild. Again, I want to encourage you to support the work of the ACLJ. Earlier this week, you heard from one of our new clients or lawyers about one of our new clients who is on the front lines for the pro-life movement with someone who is protesting out in front of a pro-life or sort of an abortion clinic. And they were told and arrested for speech. That, and you know what we've been doing in Massachusetts, and we're about to roll out in the next few weeks, that $500,000 counter ad campaign to promote pro-life resource centers in the Boston and Massachusetts area because they have come under such attack by their own government. You can find out more. I encourage you just to go to ACLJ.org and look around. Incredible resources, incredible content that's posted every day. Obviously on our YouTube channel and our Rumble channel. On Instagram, we're putting up new content every single day. So make sure you're staying engaged that way. And of course, important time. Become an ACLJ champion. Someone that gives on a monthly recurring basis. You can do it right now as little as $5 or set it as high as you'd like. We would love that. All right, we got a packed show coming up. Stay tuned. Again, aclj.org right now. Read the new articles. Get engaged. It's a great place to interact.
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All right, welcome back to Seculo. We are taking your phone calls to 1-800-684-3110. The next war you get into here, and it's not just watching what the Biden administration is doing, these final days there in office, the executive orders, the money they are throwing around, the potential to even start other foreign wars, because, again, you've got... basically advisors running a presidency. And we see that in the mainstream media now. So it's a very dangerous time already, always is in a transition. The Democrats will make it as difficult as possible, and the Biden team will make it as difficult as possible for the Trump team to get on the ground running. And the Democrats in the Senate want to do the same thing. They want to keep you from actually having... control of the federal government of the executive agencies as long as possible so that bureaucrats and holdovers are in charge which are their friends who will not implement uh or with any speed the policies of the president of the united states so it is key to get your cabinet confirmed And as we've said, to get your deputies confirmed so those people are not being sent into a 10,000-person agency with not a single person they can truly trust and work with and know is on their same team as an American. That's how bad it is inside that bureaucracy. They have to assume everybody they're working with in the bureaucracy will try and undermine them or is recording what they're saying and is going to try to take it out of context. Basically see who they can remove before they've even gotten started. They did that with the first Trump team that went in there with the Russia story. We have no idea what they're going to come up with next. But right now they've actually taken it to another level which is not moving forward with some of the key hearings. for nominees on the cabinet like Director of National Intelligence for Tulsi Gabbard. She is a colleague of ours at the American Center for Law and Justice and on the Seculo broadcast. She remains one today and we are proud to have worked with her and hopefully we'll be able to work with her again in the future and assist whatever we can while she's DNI but even further into her career. she's got to get a hearing and will the democrats excuses for not having a hearing is absurd especially when you have a country that has faced a new kind of terrorism is kind of come back Islamic terrorism is it something we can quickly put you know nip in the bud the border issues we know that the cartels are working with terrorist organizations we know that there are bad actors and we also know these intelligence agencies haven't been focusing on the right people they've been focusing on American citizens speech and organizing instead of the bad guys. And that's why we have these unprepared security at large events.
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Jordan, this is the problem. This is the fight that the U.S. Senate on the Democrat side has decided they want to pick at this dangerous, pivotal time in American history. Because they're already letting forward these nominations, these hearings to begin on Attorney General Pam Bondi would be Wednesday and Thursday of next week. Pete Hegseth is scheduled to have his hearing on Tuesday. Doug Burgum also on Tuesday. That'd be the Department of the Interior. Lee Zeldin is scheduled for Thursday for EPA. And Tom Cotton, who's the chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee, wants to hold both John Ratcliffe for the CIA director position and Tulsi Gabbard for director of national intelligence. Their hearings early next week. His goal is to get these hearings started so that we can get start getting to votes on January 20th when President Trump is sworn in. But the Democrats have picked their fight. They've drawn their line in the sand. They're going after Tulsi Gabbard. Mark Warner, who's the vice chair of the Senate Intelligence Committee, is saying that Tulsi Gabbard hasn't provided the enough material, the required vetting material for them to go forward with this. So the Democrats are forcing a delay in this hearing, forcing a delay for the position of director of national intelligence. And he's trying to make it seem as though because she hasn't provided these materials that she's somehow obstructing this process. But in reality... Her FBI background check, the work for that was done and completed and sent to the FBI last week. That should also be expedited because she is someone who holds that high security clearance. Therefore, they already have much of this material. They don't have to start from zero and work their way up in this background check. But then also, They're saying she didn't provide a questionnaire. She provided the first questionnaire already, and they've given her a deadline of today to provide the second one, which she said she'll comply with. And then the final thing is the ethics statement that they want signed. Many of these nominees, because of the snow and the offices being closed in D.C., haven't been able to receive them yet because people haven't been in the office. It doesn't mean that they're not going to have it. So they're trying to play this game and pick this fight and make it be public that Tulsi Gabbard isn't playing along. She's not being helpful. She's obstructing this process. We have to delay her hearing. But in reality, she is. She's doing the things that need to be done to go before the Senate. And I think you should hear from Elizabeth Warren because she's been an outspoken critic on many of the nominees, but she gets pretty nasty. She uses the old rhetoric on Tulsi Gabbard. And this was on CNN yesterday. Let's
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Why is Donald Trump doing this? And I think the answer is, let's have a big distraction and several more questions so we don't spend more time on Pete Hegseth, the nominee to be the head of the Department of Defense. So we don't spend more time on Tulsi Gabbard, who has been in the pocket of Putin and is not someone who should be trusted with our secrets so that we don't spend more time on Robert Kennedy's views on vaccines. In other words, we have a job in front of us right now, and that is advise and consent on the nominees who are there to run our government.
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Okay, first of all, Tulsi Gabbard already has top secret security level clearance. She might need another level one or two up, but there's not much higher that she can get, and she's maintained that for two decades, including this time period that they think she was, because of meeting with foreign leaders, somehow violating security. what would be then like a they would take your security clearance away if they thought you were doing something wrong in fact I just don't think we know the full story there because it's probably connected to a lot of different background things and Tulsi's been involved in a lot of operations throughout Africa in the past couple of years that you don't talk about much that's all you kind of hear about and you see that in her bio she talks about that so again some of this will have to be done as we said like behind closed doors But the idea here that she is some unknown to the intelligence world, it's the exact opposite, Will. The FBI and everyone who's been through it says this is the person who has the easiest time to get their clearance through because they already have a very active high-level clearance from the U.S. military with all the events that have occurred, has never once tried to revoke or question her security clearance. I mean, she's walking in with a higher-level security clearance as a non-politician um you know because she left congress then someone like uh marco rubio who's coming in because he was elected as a u.s senator that's what empowered him to get the information that's right elected officials don't have to get clearances from uh the executive agencies it's like the president you don't have to clear them uh but she's already got it from those agencies and they're acting like they can't let her see this information it's a sideshow to try to uh get uh so that people won't pay attention to other big issues. The truth is, if we can't get the director of national intelligence confirmed, and you can't get your DOD secretary confirmed, and you can't do four of these at once because it's the same, all different committees at this level. This is what the Democrats' last attempt to do is to really prevent the Trump administration from actually beginning because the president can do a lot by executive order and he can do a lot with his team, but what he can't do and makes it very difficult is to really implement big policy changes without the personnel in place to do it. And the bureaucrat holdovers, not only will they not do the work, They disagree with it. So you've got to get your people in place. You have to have a cabinet to govern the U.S. government right now. It's so huge that without a cabinet, I mean, it's a government that's run amok.
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Yeah, let's go ahead and take a call because some people have been asking this question online as well. Sally's calling in Arizona on line one. You're on the air.
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Hi, yes, I wanted to find out actually what is the best way for us out here to support Tulsi Gabbard in her nomination?
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So I think there's two things to do. One is we have our petition at ACLJ.org. So as someone who an organization that Tulsi has been a part of and on our team, I think it speaks a lot to even Republican U.S. senators who don't know Tulsi as well because maybe they are not always aligned with the MAGA movement. But they do know the work of the ACLJ, which is longer than that movement. They've worked with us on lots of issues. So making sure you sign our petition so that we've got a lot of names there and thousands of people that know, hey, I'm an ACLJ supporter. Tulsi worked with the ACLJ, wants you to be reminded of that. So make sure when you are taking this vote, um, or getting this, helping get this vote to the committee and then out to the floor of, uh, the U S Senate that, you know, you're supporting someone that the ACLJ works with, uh, directly. Uh, and I think that's important. Now, when she gets the actual hearing date, we'll want you to call, uh, strategically u.s senators and ultimately on the floor of the u.s senate both of your u.s senators to vote yes but right now share the information get more people on our petition logan that's what we got to do we've got a specific petition for tulsi so they could sign it and then at no cost share it with your friends and family online it's easier to do that now on facebook yeah it's very easy do that and let's get a lot of signatures there she needs the support
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Do it right now, aclj.org slash sign. It'll take you directly there, S-I-G-N, sign. Sign for Tulsi and we need a supporter. We'll be right back with more. Welcome back to Sekulow. I also want to say a welcome to our new friends on Salem News Channel. If you're watching us on Salem News Channel, make sure you give us a call. Tell us. We'd love to hear from you because we have been on the network for the last year, but we are now live. So if you're watching this right now on Salem News Channel, unless it's a later on, way later rerun, we are live noon to 1 p.m. Eastern Time, I wanted to say. Hello to all you. Great lineup of other hosts on there, so I hope you enjoy it. Take a look at what they're doing at Salem News Channel. Let's go ahead and take some phone calls. Let's go to Ronnie, who's calling in South Carolina, who's listening on the radio. Ronnie, you're on the air.
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Good afternoon. It's not morning anymore.
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Go ahead.
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So, a question about Facebook. Do you guys have any inkling here? I was thrown in Facebook jail so many times because of fact checkers. quote-unquote fact checkers, and now my friends do not see my post, and if they do, it's a couple of days old. Anything I post on their marketplace, nobody sees it, and I'm really curious if any of that's going to be affected once these budget changes come in.
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Maybe so. One thing we can actually talk about and share is that they will be moving their content policy team from California to Texas. Now, we have seen the moves to Texas from a lot of these platforms. We've seen X start to do it. We've seen a lot of the others start to move their way to Texas, a lot of times to Austin, which can be a little more liberal leaning. But I assume what you'll have is a good group of people who will probably be leaving
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the platform because they don't want to move and they simply don't want to move to Texas and that could shift a lot of these policies well and Mark Zuckerberg did say in that announcement about the the content-based review team going to Texas he says as we work to promote free expression I think will help us build trust to do this work in places where there's less concern about the bias of our teams So what you can also, I think, infer from that, I'm not putting words in his mouth, but that if they move it from the most liberal part of California, Northern California, San Francisco, Silicon Valley, then you move it to Texas, that they're not expecting, I assume, I'm not, once again, not putting words in their mouth, that Not everyone is going to want to leave Silicon Valley in San Francisco area to move to Texas, wherever that may be in Texas. And by saying there should be less concern about bias of our teams, that they're looking for talent. That are less biased, that maybe come from those areas of the country.
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Maybe they're trying to find people that will go into the office again, too.
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Exactly. Well, I mean, that's probably also a part of it as well. But I think this entire thing from the leadership being having board members that we know are of like mind. That is a huge deal.
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I can't reiterate that enough. In a platform that large, in a company as large as Meta, the board controls a lot. They can do a lot. They can get a lot done. And you have someone who is as outspoken as Dana White, and you said another Republican lobbyist that's getting involved and now on the board as well. Those are big moves. And look, I know it's easy to just go, oh, don't trust them. And I'm not saying you should. But I think that this is an opportunity, maybe an opportunity to get back a bit where we came from. Let's go ahead and take another call. Let's go to Charles, who's calling in Georgia on line two. You're on the air.
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Hello. I just wanted to express my opinion that I think the only thing that is really going to ensure that Facebook and Google and big corporations like that that have gotten control over information, which they have in the past used it to censorship, collusion with FBI, all kinds of things to limit free speech for political purposes. They've demonstrated that they've done that. They're capable of it. And I think what we're seeing now is just a ploy. All it is is to, like, if you can't beat them, join them. And then if the Democrats get back in control again and all that wokeism comes back and all that stuff, Zuckerberg will be a chameleon and join right up with him again.
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Charles, I would say I want to jump in here because, I mean, I hear your points. And that's why I keep pointing back to the board members because it's a publicly traded company. The board members have a lot of power by saying, hey, these moves you're making, company, aren't in the best interest of the shareholders. Because what's the point of doing things in interest of the shareholders? To raise the stock price. At the end of the day, that's how the corporate America, these big corporations... the board of directors gets to look it down and have oversight and say, what you're doing is going to decrease the value of this company to the people that own stock of it. And if they're going to revert back and try to push things that one are draining resources, really expensive and don't produce any profit and lose actual users of the platform. People like Dana white, who has built very large companies based off the principles that we hold dear and, as well as another person that's conservative as well. I think they will have a lot of power to try to keep that in check. Yes, obviously, you can't control a publicly traded company from the outside, but you can with your pocketbook, with your users, and I do think That we are a big part of the reason this is a shift, not the administration. That we, the American people that are conservatives and believe in American conservative values, are a big part of the reason they are making this change.
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Yeah, and I think you have someone like Mark Zuckerberg. Obviously, you have Dana White coming in. He's a big Brazilian jiu-jitsu guy, I think. Zuckerberg, he's involved in MMA. He's challenged Elon Musk to a fight. We've had all that happen. Remember that? That happened just a few years ago. How quickly things change. You also have Tim Cook. uh, yesterday pledging a million dollars personally, personally, not the Apple, you know, usual an additional million dollars of his own money, uh, to the Trump inauguration, uh, events committee. And that is a little bit traditional, but if you read the comments that came out of Tim Cook and we know that Tim Cook, the head of Apple, by the way, uh, He's been down in Mar-a-Lago as well, Auburn grad. He's been down in Mar-a-Lago with Elon, with people like Zuckerberg. So yes, are they kissing up to what's happening there? Maybe so. I mean, yes, definitely. Yes, but maybe that is because they also see how the American people are reacting and maybe you'll have companies that actually respond. I'm not saying it's going to happen. I'm just saying that it's at least a good spot. So let's go ahead and take another. Should we play from another clip from Zuckerberg? It's a little bit longer, so we'll hold that for the next half hour. If you're watching online, you'll get the full hour. If you're listening on the radio, some of you don't. Make sure you watch us live. ACLJ.org. YouTube. Rumble. Yes, on Facebook. We are there. We're also on X. Find us, just search for ACLJ or Secula. We're broadcasting live now. You can also sign our petition to help us continue our battle against online censorship and social media censorship. Sign our petition at ACLJ.org slash sign. This is a huge win as they're getting rid of fact checkers, something that has been a bit of a bane of our existence for the last seven, eight years. So excited to hopefully have some positive movement in that again you go to aclj.org we'll be taking your calls coming up in the next segments as well at 1-800-684-3110 let's quickly go to charlotte who's calling in georgia online for charlotte you're on the air yes kevin and i are just saying hi and thank you guys for the wonderful work that you're doing and we are praying for you every day you're in the front lines for us they're even on the phones
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So we just, Kevin and I are just in prayer for the ACLJ and Jay and the entire crew. Thank you. Your safety, as well as the wonderful front lines you've been for Trump. and the entire conservative voice of which we are a part.
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Charlotte, I appreciate you calling. I appreciate your prayers. I don't mean to cut you off at all. We're just ahead to a break. But I want to thank everyone who does that, who not only supports the work of the ACLJ, whether that's by signing petitions or donating financially, but just pray for us. Continue to keep us in your prayers. Like she said, pray for our safety. For us, for our families, for our team, whether that's here in the office or when we're traveling around the world. I was at the European Center for Law and Justice, our European office. I was just there two weeks ago or less than two weeks ago. There's so much amazing work happening. There's so many people. You hear our names, sure. There are hundreds of people working full-time here at the ACLJ, and we can't do that without you. So go to ACLJ.org, but phone lines are open. 1-800-684-3110, second half hour, coming right up in less than a minute.
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Keeping you informed and engaged, now more than ever. This is Seculo. We want to hear from you. Share and post your comments or call 1-800-684-3110.
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And now your host, Logan Sekulow. Welcome to Sekulow. Hopefully you're watching on YouTube, on Rumble, or maybe on the Salem News Channel, which we are now live on every day. If you're not a part of Salem News Channel, you should check it out. See what they're doing over there, our friends at Salem. We've been on the network for about a year, but now we are live. Now noon to 1 p.m. each and every weekday. So find us there on Salem News Channel. I did also want to take a minute... They thank everyone who signed up and became an ACLJ champion over the last couple of days. We've been promoting that a lot. And I encourage you right now, if you can, if you have the money right now, as we head into a very important week and we'll discuss that in a second, a very important week in terms of all of the confirmations that are going to start happening, the hearings that are going to start happening. we could use your support here at the ACLJ. And you can become an ACLJ champion. That is someone who gives on a recurring monthly basis. Or if you can give a one-time donation, do it as well. Just go to ACLJ.org to do it today. But Will, it's an important week coming up next week.
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That's right. And as we look ahead, as we approach the inauguration of President Trump as the 47th President of the United States, the Senate, who has already been sworn in, were sworn in just at the beginning of this January, said, They are moving forward. They are going to have these hearings while they can't vote on the nomination until President Trump has been sworn in. They can begin to hold their hearings and get everything ready so that on January 20th, they can begin to start to vote, vote out of committee and then to the full Senate. fulfilling their advice and consent role. We know in this week ahead, we have Pete Hegseth and Pam Bondi are going to start hearings. We also know that Tom Cotton, who is the head of the Senate Intelligence Committee, is pushing for the CIA Director John Ratcliffe hearings to begin, as well as the next Director of National Intelligence, Tulsi Gabbard, for her hearings to begin. So we will be following it all closely. We will be reporting on it and bringing you information here and giving our analysis as we watch these hearings in this week ahead. But it is something that we are very focused on. If you go to aclj.org slash petitions, There is a petition there where you can support these nominations, and when you sign that petition, our government affairs team makes sure that the senators see that. We say the ACLJ is bringing this many members, have signed this petition, and they want you to confirm president trump's nominees and we will even break it down by state many times if a certain senator from a certain state we have a large portion of our audience that has signed that petition be like look how many of your constituents want you to move forward with president trump's nominees so that we can begin this fight to restore the america that we fought for
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Right. It's going to be a big week, so make sure you stay tuned. Obviously, we are just a few days now from President Trump being inaugurated in Washington, D.C. It is a crazy time. I think it feels like it happened. The election was 100 years ago. It also feels like it happened just yesterday. And it's hard to believe that we are already here. midway through the month of January heading towards inauguration day. It's pretty wild. Again, I want to encourage you to support the work of the ACLJ. Earlier this week, you heard from one of our new clients or lawyers about one of our new clients who is on the front lines for the pro-life movement with someone who is protesting out in front of a pro-life or sort of an abortion clinic. And they were told and arrested for speech. That, and you know what we've been doing in Massachusetts, and we're about to roll out in the next few weeks, that $500,000 counter ad campaign to promote pro-life resource centers in the Boston and Massachusetts area because they have come under such attack by their own government. You can find out more. I encourage you just to go to ACLJ.org and look around. Incredible resources, incredible content that's posted every day. Obviously on our YouTube channel, on our Rumble channel, on Instagram, we're putting up new content every single day. So make sure you're staying engaged that way. And of course, important time, become an ACLJ champion. Someone that gives on a monthly recurring basis. You can do it right now as little as $5 or set it as high as you'd like. We would love that. All right. We got a packed show coming up. Stay tuned. Again, ACLJ.org right now. Read the new articles. Get engaged. It's a great place to interact. to Sekulo. I want to jump right into your phone calls. Give me a call too. We got three lines open so you can get on the air. 1-800-684-3110. That's 1-800-684-3110. This has been a big victory for us. And yes, I'm taking a little bit of a victory lap right now as we have been continually in, especially over the last few years, it's gotten a little bit better the last year or so. We have been constantly in a struggle with meta, with Facebook and as they have taken down posts or they've put strikes or they've put, you know, fake news kind of labels on it, even to the point where they would notify millions of people. You know, we don't get notifications for this show very much anymore on Facebook, but there was a time where whenever they decided to slap a partially true, partially false, totally false label on it, they would notify everyone who saw it. or who engaged or who shared it. And of course, what they didn't do was then notify people when that strike was removed and when their system went through and they did a double check and said, hey, we were wrong, which happened every single time. So I'm taking a victory lap. That is going away. The fact-checkers groups, and I hope they all go completely out of business, go away. Because remember, they were a third party. Third-party fact-checkers, goodbye. Hello, community notes actually done by the people. So I really like that. Let's go ahead and take some phone calls. Rebecca's calling in New Hampshire. Line three, you're on the air.
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Hi. I was thinking, too, that perhaps... Facebook and the other ones should consider that our privacy is worth something to us and that they should allow us to decide what they get to have and what they don't. I think Europe does that. And I think that's an important thing, too, because otherwise they still have a lot of information that either can get stolen by other countries or used improperly at their choice.
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I think this is an interesting conversation. She battles sort of the TikTok situation, which is if you remove TikTok, are you actually causing more issues because of the potential censorship you are allowing? Or are you feeding into the algorithm? Now, do I use TikTok? No, not regularly. because of some of those concerns. But I have the choice to do it. I think you have that sort of same issue here, Will, with Facebook, which is, yeah, to create a privacy policy that's stricter, sure. And look, we've all had it happen. I'm talking about Dairy Queen and all of a sudden I'm getting an ad for Dairy Queen. We've had all those situations happen in real time and real life. So maybe there should be some of those, but it gets a little gray and it gets a little concerning.
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Right. And one, that is every social media platform's business model is the data that they get from you for offering you a free service as well as ads. So, yes, Rebecca, that is a very robust discussion that should happen about individuals' privacy, but also what they give up when they agree to use a platform. And so that I think having conservative minded people on the board is very helpful for those discussions going forward as well. So those are things, though, that weren't necessarily brought up by this announcement. And so we can't speak too far to what they're thinking about that. But I understand that is a concern of a lot of people. And Logan, you brought up TikTok. You saw Kevin O'Leary from Shark Tank fame. Obviously, he does a lot of media appearances on Fox News now. He's a conservative. He's in talks to purchase the assets of TikTok here in America. which is a part of that deal where if they didn't sell the company by X date, I think it was January 19th, but that's on hold from a court, but then it would transfer over. And he's saying, though, we need to have the Trump administration help negotiate this deal out, but that he's looking to purchase that and to try to almost take TikTok over in America so it wouldn't necessarily go away, but that connection to China would be severed and some of those privacy concerns would go away. there as well.
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That could be interesting. You know, you put sort of a more trusted face, I guess you'd say, Mr. Wonderful, involved in running something like TikTok. Maybe that can win more people over and it continues to plow from there. Millions of Americans and millions worldwide who their businesses are reliant on TikTok. So that is always the concern when you're dealing with that. You're going to start limiting people's ways to make money or you have built an entire business on these platforms and then you're kicked off. Now, of course, YouTube has done that. Of course, Facebook has done that where they have kicked off prominent figures or they've throttled prominent figures who did build their whole career on social media. But I'm talking about someone that, you know, sells candles. You know, I'm not talking about someone who's a political commentator, a mom and pop shop that built up on selling a croissant that is legendary in Houston, you know, something like that. Those are the ones that I get a little concerned about in terms of the people still having a voice.
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This is another interesting thing. Our team has been looking through at some of the historic things that we had happen. And once again, we did mention that those got, we were able to defeat them and get those strikes against our account taken away. But even in his statement, Mark Zuckerberg mentions that we're going to simplify our content policies and get rid of a bunch of restrictions on topics like immigration that are just out of touch with mainstream discourse. We actually had a broadcast yesterday back in 2022, February 9th, so almost three years ago, that we were talking about our lawsuit that we were bringing. It was a FOIA lawsuit. We had FOIA'd the administration. They didn't comply within the statutory limitations, and so we filed a FOIA lawsuit. We were then flagged for false information on an immigration topic, but in there, they said it was also related to false information about Hillary Clinton, which had nothing to do with anything on the broadcast that day. I don't even think she was mentioned on the broadcast that day. It was very directed about the ACLJ work, filing a lawsuit based off our FOIA request. It was all internally created story. And they were fact-checking us telling what we were in real time doing and we got a content strike on that. And that's, once again, the flaw that even Zuckerberg is pointing out here with the third-party fact-checking and how much power they had to silence your content. If they didn't like it, even if the topic, because it was about immigration, a very contested time, and even if the excuse was wrong, that specific voice, The ACLJ talking to you was shadow banned, delisted, moved down, whatever you want to call it, through that process of the fact checker.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, I've seen – I have to say, this last election season, we saw a lot less of that. Right. We saw a lot – I'm not sure if we had one flag on our account. No one told me if we did because – You could tell they were already moving in this direction. So when those topics come up that are specifically mentioned and we're addressing them, as half the country agrees with, that's something that at least we brought up. Hey, no sweet baby rays this time. You know what? That was maybe the most disappointing thing. Where was the barbecue sauce? Yeah, if you don't remember, back when I think we introduced Meta four years ago. looming in the background out of focus was a bottle of sweet baby ray barbecue sauce which i think he's a big fan of uh just a solitary bottle on the shelf yeah and uh i've always thought you know he should put that if you're watching mark every should be an easter egg yeah every time hide a bottle of sweet baby rays we are gonna be taking your calls coming up in the next segment it'll be our last segment of the day 1-800-684-3110 let's go ahead and take a call paula it's in florida you're on the air
SPEAKER 10 :
Hey, this is Paula. Thank you. Just wanted to give a shout out saying just give the public some time to even believe what Zuckerberg is saying. And because we have. We've been hearing the opposite for so many years, and we didn't even believe that at the time that they were saying it. Just for instance, yesterday I was watching the news, and here they're still blaming Trump for the insurrection on January the 6th. I mean, it's who do you believe?
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Who do you believe?
SPEAKER 06 :
And so you... What we want, Paula, is that conversation to be able to happen, is for you to be able to say what you feel about that and for other people to say the opposite. And then somewhere in the middle, maybe people will have a discussion. You'll actually be able to talk these things out, not just turn into one side. And maybe that's what can happen on these social media platforms. Once again, no guarantees. As you said, we got to build time, got to let it trust, build some trust up. Mark Zuckerberg has been headed this direction. And I will say, think about all the people. who have come on board to the more America first, I guess you'd say, conservative movement, the Trump movement, the MAGA movement, very unlikely people have come on board. You could say that from our own colleague, Tulsi Gabbard. You could say that from an RFK Jr. You could say that from an Elon Musk. You could say from a Russell Brand. A lot of people, hearts and minds have changed over the last four years, over the last six years, over the last two years. So if I sound more hopeful, And maybe you think, because you're like, I can't trust Mark Zuckerberg. We have seen it now time and time again. We've seen a lot of these leading voices in tech and entertainment start to take that risky swing. And it's really not risky, and that's what they know. They know it is not risky to the actual consumer. It's only risky to the advertisers, and it's only risky to the mainstream media. And that's when he starts saying terms like legacy media. You know what they mean.
SPEAKER 02 :
And it was almost two years ago that we brought Tulsi Gabbard on this show. In a very similar situation where she had left the Democrat Party, has not joined the Republican Party. I don't even think she had left the Democrat Party yet. Right. Yeah. I think she had just become an independent.
SPEAKER 06 :
Maybe that's what it was.
SPEAKER 02 :
Just become an independent. But even that, it took time for her to build trust within the conservative base. And our audience. Exactly. And so I think you can also look at that, why we have hope, because we've seen what can happen.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah. The first comment, though, said, you guys are being naive. Yeah. Maybe so. Maybe? Maybe so. Maybe we're looking for a hopeful 2025. We're going to take your calls coming up. If you disagree or agree or have other things to say, 1-800-684-3110. Last call to get your comments in. And sign the petition at aclj.org. Slash sign. We'll be right back.
SPEAKER 05 :
All right, welcome back to Seculo. I know we've got a lot of listeners, viewers in Southern California, as we said. We know it's a key support base for us, the American Service for Law and Justice, one of our largest areas of supporters. And, you know, if you're being impacted by it, sure, we want to hear from you on the broadcast too, 1-800-684-3110. I don't think Rick is trying to politicize it, but people are talking about the causes and they're all known. You could go through that whole list of causes that they needed more water put away. People voted for it means they would pay for it. And it didn't happen. People know that clearing the brush is the brush is how they spread so quickly and they won't clear the brush because of other environmental reasons. And you've got to make choices if you're going to live in certain terrains for humans first. I mean, you know, this is, again, when you get to policies that try to disregard, well, you know, we have to worry about the frog more than the human, then the policies end up with these kind of disasters. And it's not a place where you can look and say, well, at least people in these situations, you know, middle class people, especially who can get hit the hardest, they've got insurance. A lot of them don't. when it comes to fire, that that was revoked years ago, and they likely could not afford the add-on that you'd have to pay extra to get that insurance. So the extremely wealthy, they can rebuild. And those who are in some kind of subsidized housing, that can be rebuilt. But people right in the middle, they have to rethink, are there going to be the jobs there? Is this going to be a place that is livable? And it's crazy to say that about one of the better climates, usually 90% of the year, In the United States of America. So if there's any of you that want to update us on anything that's happening, 1-800-684-3110. I do want to go back to the confirmation issue, though, using Tulsi Gabbard as an example, because Federman, Senator Federman has talked about how He's been open to meet with all these nominees, Will, and yet the criticism, the concerns people have, he's not really picking up on it in these meetings. That's right. The politicizing so many of these nominees because Donald Trump chose them.
SPEAKER 02 :
And two years ago, when there was a midterm election, who would have ever thought that we would be this point in now 2025 saying the one of the voices of reason in the Democrat Party is Senator John Fetterman from Pennsylvania. But we've seen it over and over again, whether it be through the election. We even he was asked about the Lake and Riley Act yesterday, where that was an act if a criminal alien is here and has been picked up for petty theft or some other lower level crime, then they're detained and not released back out. And a lot of the Democrats are saying they're not going to support it in the Senate. John Fetterman said, if we can't get seven Democrats to vote for this in the Senate to get past the 60 vote threshold, then they don't understand why we lost the election. I mean, that's the type of things that John Fetterman as a Democrat in the Senate is saying. But back to your point, this bite is from yesterday on Fox News. He was asked about Tulsi Gabbard specifically as one of the nominees. Let's take a listen.
SPEAKER 05 :
Is this Tulsi Gabbard one of the nominees that you could vote for?
SPEAKER 01 :
Well, you know, I met with her. In fact, I think I've met with virtually all of them. And the ones that I haven't, they're on my schedule, RFK and Governor Noem. So I'm happy to meet with all of them. and that's also part of this i don't know why that was controversial i mean i got a lot of blowback just you know even to to meet with them and to me i see that as just doing my job and i'm going to have a conversation with with anyone that would like to have a a conversation with me and if if i if someone believed everything that's been written or said about me was true. I mean, you can't possibly know me, or I think I could know her either, just based on someone read. But I want to sit down and have a conversation. And I'm really glad that I've done that. And some of these nominees I'm going to vote for already. In fact, whether it's our colleague Rubio, Representative Stefanik, or even Sean Duffy, I expect to vote for him as well, too.
SPEAKER 05 :
So there you go. It's very interesting, Logan, because he's not afraid of the normal politics of the Democrat Party. Political blowback. What he's saying, first off, I mean, the fact that he's been announcing that because he's had those meetings, is that Democrats, because in those meetings, it can humanize people one-on-one. And yes, you could talk about your differences, but you also could talk about how you agree more than differ. And it's those situations. The party is why they say, don't even take the meeting. And I think where he's going is, listen, a president got elected. This is who he chose. They're willing to meet with me. You know, if we can have the discussion on the issues I care about, if we can come to a middle ground, that's as much as I can hope for and want in America. Someone who's obviously going to be nominated, a party very different than mine, and I'm not going to be afraid to meet with them. But the left and leadership, they don't want you to even meet because it's a lot easier to then be groupthink and be nasty in those committees if you've never sat across from that person and had to actually have a discussion.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, but he's sitting there on a Fox News set with Katie Britt. You know, like this is someone who's taking – talk about – a moment where we've kind of had a flip, which has happened now multiple times. And I've said this, we've seen people grow and change over the last few years. They're also taking the temperature of their own state and their own areas. We saw what happened in Pennsylvania. So he's not just going to step by. I think this is a big moment. But you're right. When he already is mentioning names. Sure, he doesn't say Tulsi, I'm 100% going to confirm. But when he says Rubio, for sure. Stefanik, for sure. Sean Duffy, for sure. Pretty much. I mean, when you're saying that already, you're making these statements.
SPEAKER 02 :
That's pretty wild. Well, and John Fetterman has said he's not rooting for Trump to fail, which seems like, yeah, right, that should be the right thought process as an elected official. But that's not what you see out of the Democrat Party this year. You shouldn't want your president to fail even if you don't believe in their policies because you don't want the failure of America. But he said that, that gets him in trouble. And we mentioned, you mentioned he's on set with Katie Britt. the Republican senator from Alabama, one of the most conservative states in the country, they're actually partnering together on the Senate version of the Lake and Riley Act. So that's going to be bipartisan from him. But even he is saying he doesn't know if he can get his colleagues in his party to vote for something that is so simple of keeping people that commit crimes in detention if they're here illegally until that's adjudicated. He doesn't think he can get people in his own party to get there. So I think he's the anomaly. I think it could be good, especially to get him voting for some of these nominees when you do have some of the Hawks in the party. Now, we don't know how he's going to vote for Tulsi yet. He was... He didn't directly say it like he did Sean Duffy or Rubio, but he seemed more open to it. But you need people like him, especially if there's some more hawkish Republicans that are afraid of maybe her taking away some of the governmental powers of security or of intelligence gathering. But I think it's going to be important to have voices like that that are honest brokers to the American people and say, you know what? President won. They swept Congress. You got to give him his picks at this point.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, I mean, this is this is the key. And Republicans really, you know, there might be those couple, like you mentioned, who don't always agree with President Trump. But this is, again, their job is to look at the person and say, does this person just have the qualification? That's it. It's not the policies. because they're working for a president who will instruct them on the policies and make ultimate the big decisions. These are the people he's chose to carry out his policies. And when you win big and your party's not just in charge of the White House, but the House and the Senate, it shouldn't be too difficult to get your nominees through. And that doesn't mean you got to fight and push back some, but we want to make sure that again, that these aren't put on hold where it gets hold on indefinitely. And then these important agencies don't have directors. And then we have another attack and we still don't have a director that oversees all the intelligence agencies, except one who's a holdover from the bureaucracy. Let's get these appointments in. Let's get people like Tulsi Gabbard, make sure that they've got their committee hearings scheduled. so we can move to their votes for the full Senate. Sign the petition to help Tulsi and to make sure we get her committee hearing scheduled at ACLJ.org. Share it with your friends and family as well. Let's build some grassroots pressure with one of our ACLJ colleagues. Be historic for the ACLJ.
Join professional money manager Bill Gunderson in this engaging episode of 'Best Stocks Now' as he navigates the current market terrain. With a mixed start in the markets today, Bill analyzes the significant impact that interest rates have on high PE stocks, especially within the tech industry. Through insightful discussion with co-host Barry Kite, they delve into the complexities facing the NASDAQ and other major indices, deciphering the macroeconomic and technical challenges that investors must grasp in 2024.
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He's been seen on CNBC, the Fox News Channel, and the Fox Business Channel. His articles can be found on MarketWatch, Seeking Alpha, thestreet.com, and many other places. He's the author of the weekly Best Stocks Now newsletter and the inventor of the Best Stocks Now app. He's president of Gundersen Capital Management. Here is professional money manager Bill Gundersen.
SPEAKER 07 :
And welcome to the Monday. It is the Monday, January the 13th edition of the Best Stocks Now show with professional money manager Bill Gunderson. And we're off to a very mixed start in the market here so far today. The Dow futures were way down this morning. And now with the open of the market, the Dow opened about flat. And the Dow is right now up 77 points. By the way, I'm Bill Gunderson, president of Gunderson Capital Management, and I'm here with Barry Kite, and it is the Best Docs Now show. The Dow up 178. That's about 40 basis points to 42,116. The NASDAQ, which was down a lot more, is kind of making up a little lost ground. It's now down 1%, let's call it, down 186 to 18,938. The S&P is down 25 points. That's about 44 basis points. The Russell 2000 down 1.1% right now. The problem lately has been interest rates. And the bond market, by far, that has been what has been hurting the market. It's been shrinking those multiples on those high PE stocks, mostly tech stocks. Today, the 10-year is quiet. That's good news.
SPEAKER 1 :
4.77%.
SPEAKER 07 :
See a pathway to 5%, though. Very easily, not much resistance to hold it back. Crude oil is up to $77.78 and Bitcoin is down $4,800, clear down to $90,000. So welcome to today's Best Stocks Now show with professional money manager Bill Gunderson, president of Gunderson Capital Management. Well, as you know, in the first week of the year, or the last week of the year, I think, maybe last year, I wrote about the valuation problem that the NASDAQ now has. We're in over the last couple of years since we put out a buy signal on the NASDAQ, which is still in place, by the way, but could be pulled at any moment. The two-year P-E ratio has gone way up from 20 to 35 on the NASDAQ. That's a big increase. And then to throw a little bit of lighter fluid on top of that, interest rates have gone up 100 basis points, one full percentage point. Since the Fed started cutting interest rates. I was trying to explain this to my wife yesterday, Barry, and she goes, well, the Fed's been cutting. Can't they keep cutting? I said, well, you know, at the end of the day, the market determines interest rates.
SPEAKER 06 :
Particularly the long-term rate, right?
SPEAKER 07 :
That's exactly right. So the Fed can do whatever they want to do. But at the end of the day, the market investors in U.S. debt are demanding a higher interest rate be paid to them. And right now it's 4.78% in order for them to invest in the 10-year. Well, here's the good thing about markets also, Barry. At some point, that 10-year is going to become so attractive. I mean, even at 4.77 for 10 years, that's pretty attractive.
SPEAKER 06 :
People will buy it down.
SPEAKER 07 :
Buyers will come in. So that's just the way markets work. Now, looking at technical markets, charts over the weekend on Saturday, which I would say is the most important part of the newsletter this week. Take a look at the charts and my commentary on all the major asset classes. There was resistance at 4.7, pretty heavy on the bond market. I didn't think we'd go above that, but we did. We finished at 4.78 on Friday. The next level of resistance is 5.0, and you've got to go back a few years when we hit that level.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, it's been a couple years, and then if you look back before that, it won't even show up on a 10-year chart.
SPEAKER 07 :
Look, I don't see it going above 5%, but I see very little resistance for it to get to 5%. Then you would hope buyers would say, hey, 5% guaranteed for the next 10 years. If America is still around, you know, we'll have a pretty good return there and the buyers will drive the rates down again. Right now they're selling going on in the bond market. To make matters worse, you know, despite the Fed's best efforts to cool off the economy, Now we're doing rate cuts to try to keep it from going into the tank and slowing down. You still have a hot economy, and that's probably going to put off any rate cuts coming in 2025. I don't see any on the horizon right now. myself because you had the big jobs report on friday showing that the economy is still strong at least the jobs market i don't know about the consumer the consumer might be softening a little bit which would eventually lead to the jobs market but we're not there yet and that big jobs report says well you know despite what the fed has done they haven't really cooled off yes inflation is just around three percent now not any more up at the eight or nine percent range But it's looking like it may be sticky there for a while. And for that reason, we may not see any more rate cuts for quite some time. And that's what's throwing the market into a tizzy. It's got the bond market in a tizzy. It's got the high PE NASDAQ in a tizzy. And I would just add that First, we began the year with a valuation problem on the NASDAQ. Now you can throw in a technical problem.
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And it's all interest rates.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yes, and we've had a trend reversal. It began with the Dow. That's usually where it begins. The Dow is in a trend reversal, not from a bull to a bear, but a pretty vicious secondary downtrend. I think we're down 6% or 7% right now from the high in the Dow. That's where it all began. The Dow started to fall apart. Of course, there were some individual stocks within the Dow that aren't helping, the Intels and the Boeings of the world. And then the S&P started a little bit of a trend reversal, which is continuing on today. And we're at some very important support levels, which we're probably going to break this week, I would think. And now the NASDAQ is in a bit of a trend reversal also. Which, you know, look, I mean, after two double-digit years in a row, 20% plus years in a row in the S&P 500, there's going to be some profit-taking in some of those stocks and moving out of some of those winners and looking for other opportunities. And I said they're probably going to wait until after the beginning of the year, a new tax year, before they do any selling in those big stocks. And that's what we're seeing right now. And so now you've got a technical problem, very weak technical patterns in a lot of very important asset classes. Number one, the bond market. The bond market is still looking for support. If you look at the five-year or one-year chart of IYE, which is the 10-year bond market ETF, you'll see that it has not found support yet.
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And we might get some news to push that this week. I mean, we've got CP, we get PPI, CPI, we get retail sales.
SPEAKER 01 :
Yes, we've got some big reports.
SPEAKER 06 :
Not to mention earnings starting. Yeah, your big bank started on Wednesday, as you mentioned, at the end of last week. But yeah, it'll be interesting. The inflation story will be an interesting one this week. We'll see what we get. And, of course, the next anticipation being what will happen after the inauguration, what we see with tariffs and other things.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yes, and I am reiterating constantly that we don't have an earnings problem in the market or a problem with the economy or a recession problem, a looming recession. We have a valuation problem. And then with the bond market being so weak and interest rates going up, it's now turned things into a technical problem. It's turned the sentiment on the market. Technical analysis is really a measure, an observation of the current sentiment. And the sentiment has turned sour against small caps, against large caps, against tech, against high PE stocks, tech especially. So we have that to deal with. Luckily, I mean, we've lowered our exposure. We lowered our exposure late last year. I think our ultra-growth account has got a lot of cash. I can't remember.
SPEAKER 06 :
It's probably about, I mean, at most it's probably, what, 80% invested at the moment. Yeah. You know, in terms of beta.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yes, and even I think the ultra-growth has got even more, less cash. exposure than that and i introduce some funds because i could see this coming i could see that trend reversal and i think it could last for a while i don't think it's going to be a few days and be over you know the interest rates have done some damage to the market and it's got to run its course now. Some are saying, I saw one guy saying, well, when Trump gets inaugurated, you're going to see another little bit of a blast up higher in the market, and then probably settle back in this kind of funk that we're in right now. So anyways, it's a stock-by-stock market. You've got to take it one at a time. I did quite a bit of selling in the first week of the year, cutting things that weren't working, cutting things that looked vulnerable. Though, I'm telling you, You're studying that technical analysis, Barry. I can't tell you how important it is because that's where trouble shows up first in an individual stock, in the indexes, in gold, in Bitcoin, in oil. It doesn't matter. I mean, all these traders around the world are watching these technical support levels.
SPEAKER 06 :
And whether they're real or not, people trade off of them, and so they are real.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay, well, when we come back, we'll kind of set the stage for this week. A lot of earnings on tap, and like you say, a couple of big reports, including the inflation report. We'll be right back. And welcome back here to the second quarter of today's Best Stocks Now show where earnings collide with the bond market in multiples. And that's what's taking place in the market right now. And, you know, I mean, Trump can call for lower interest rates all he wants, but it's the market that determines where those interest rates. Now, I do think that once they get in and start working on a more reasonable spending plan, that could help the bond market.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, that actually reduces them. You know, it's being equal, right? It improves your – if you can improve that cash flow situation a bit better, well, then that makes you a better credit worthiness, right? It goes up, which makes the price of your bond go up. go up, which lastly makes the rate you pay for interest go down.
SPEAKER 07 :
And at some point here, you're going to have buyers come in. In fact, I see a lot of people, the bond guys are starting to recommend, hey, you know, this is pretty attractive. So that's why a market is such a beautiful thing, right?
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, and the other thing is we're almost, if I saw it right today, I think we're at 101 in terms of dollar to the euro. So we're pretty close to parity. That's another potential thing that could help bring interest rates down, right? As if dollars, people want to hold more dollars. Well, then in turn, that usually brings the cost of capital down, right? In this instance, the cost of capital to the U.S. government.
SPEAKER 07 :
Exactly. So anyways, this week we do get the CPI on Wednesday. That will be closely watched. There's no question about it. And we have had a move up in oil here recently. That could impact that a bit. And then you're going to get the PPI on Thursday.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, PPI tomorrow. Okay. Yeah, PPI tomorrow. Retail sales later in the week, too.
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So these are all very important. Retail sales will give us a good look at where the consumer is right now.
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And, of course, our jobless claims numbers, which came in at, what, 201 last time, which is one of the lowest we've seen in a while. So that will be on Thursday as well. And a bunch of Fed speakers talking. They must be at some conference on Wednesday because we've got about three or four speakers.
SPEAKER 07 :
And then, as you said last week, I mean, this sell-off in bonds has been worldwide. Interest rates have been going up worldwide. And... The global markets look horrible. Now, there's another piece of my newsletter that might get overlooked, but in the macro outlook, I have a little color system for the current status of all the major indexes around the world. A signal, a signal, okay, buy, sell, hold, and that thing is just deadly accurate, okay? I mean, what I've created, it's a monster. And, I mean, it'll call us. The first sell signal occurred in a long, long time. It's a very weak sell signal on the Dow. which that's the first one that started to go the other two were like you know holder we called somewhere in there you go around the world europe looks horrible the j k which is the europe e t f europe had was up one percent last year their markets now they're going to face tariffs They're still got issues with their energy supplies. They have very slow growth economies. Inflation's still hanging around there. So we do have an inverse fund ETF, which is EPV, against Europe. And it is up 2% today, okay?
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah. And if you're interested and you want something to use as kind of a moniker or measure for Europe, just look at LVMH. That's another one. Look at the chart there where at one point in the last 12 months it was $950, and now it's at $659. Ouch. Okay. That's about close to a third.
SPEAKER 07 :
Let's go to some even bigger. You go to, well, let's just talk about the emerging markets. Look. awful vwo volkswagen without an engine that's what that stands for man vwo vanguard footsie emerging markets I would just say that if your person has you in the emerging markets with a pretty heavy or even a 10, 15%, I wouldn't have anything in there. I've been saying that for a long, long time. The emerging markets are down 16% over the last few months, and they just look awful. China, of course, has been a big catalyst behind this fall in the emerging markets. And that's one of the asset classes that I have.
SPEAKER 06 :
So the U.S. dollar. As the U.S. dollar goes up, you've got a lot of these emerging markets own U.S. denominated. They issue debt in U.S. dollars because of their own small currency issues. And so... As the dollar strengthens, it costs more for them to pay us back. Exactly. Or to pay those bonds off. Not us, but to pay those U.S. denominated bonds off.
SPEAKER 07 :
And then look at the emerging market ETFs. There's EUM and EEV is breaking out right now. And all of these look like they have a lot further to go to the downside. And the ETF, inverse ETFs look like they have a lot further to go to the upside.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, I mean, there'd have to be a lot of things to happen, I think, to get a tailwind right behind emerging markets. I mean, you'd have to have a weakening U.S. dollar. You'd have to have... Trump lighten up on them. There's a lot of things that... Yeah, I mean, China would have to get back to growing in terms of what it needs to be. I mean, the amount of... Things that need to occur. I don't see the catalyst there. It's hard to put together.
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You know, I just look at an inverse ETF. It's any other asset class nowadays. It is. I mean, as big as the hedge funds are out there, you know they're hedging against some of the weak spots. and that's one of the weakest out there another area that's very very weak the small cap stocks because this rise in interest rates is not good at all for small caps and those inverse small cap ETFs TWM is the one that I usually use it's twice the inverse of the Russell 2000 which is a lot of junk in that Russell 2000 and when interest rates go up that junk is exposed Like low tide, man, there's a lot of junk out there in the small caps. And that's breaking out, TWM. And then, of course, Bitcoin. Bitcoin was looking ahead, looking forward to some rate cuts this year. I just showed the Bitcoin chart over on Saturday. I said, you know, if it breaks this support level, there's a long ways to the next support level. Bitcoin went on a run that, you know, leaves it pretty vulnerable to a pretty stiff correction. It's already down about 10, 11, 12 percent. It was at 105 and now it's at 90. So that's another weak area. Now on the good side, we're looking for record earnings this year. This is now earnings season. I just go to my earnings page here. It's pretty astonishing really what we're expecting in earnings. in 2025 versus last year, and in 2026 versus 2025. Now, that's subject to change, obviously. But right now, the earnings picture, when we come back, I'm going to give you what this quarter's earnings estimate is, the bogey. Here's the par number that we're shooting for. Let's hope for a birdie there. We'll be right back. This is Bill Gunderson. Thank you for tuning in to today's Best Stocks Now, Best Inverse Funds Now show. I put several hours of research in during the wee hours of the morning each day to bring you the very best cutting-edge stories that I can. To get two free weeks of my newsletter, go to GundersonCapital.com. To talk to us about our fee-based only money management services, call us at 855-611-BEST. Now, back to the second half of the show.
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And looking back here to the second half of today's Best Stocks Now show.
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Okay, the quarter. This is the last quarter of last year that's being reported now. And then we'll have the final numbers for 2024. once those numbers are in. We're looking for $61.80. Okay, that's the number. That is par for the consensus analyst estimates for the S&P 500 currently stand at $61.80. This compares with the same comparable quarter last year of $55.56. So you can see that's pretty hefty growth year over year. That's 11.7% growth is what we're expecting. when all is said and done and the counting is done and the revenue growth should come in at 4.7%. Now that's all subject to, I haven't seen a lot of warnings yet. This has been warning season and nobody seems to be out there really warning right now.
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uh and if if we come in somewhere close to that that means we'll have 9.4 growth in 2024 versus the previous year well on these elevated rates if we do have these elevated rates for a period of time it could you know we could get into a mix where you have some banking earnings that don't yes don't hold up as well i think you mentioned uh something about that last week too but certainly you're If you remember the Silicon Valley bank issue was because treasury yields went elevated compared to what they bought them at.
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Then 2025, which is out there on the horizon there, we're looking for 14.8% growth next year and then 13.6% the year after that. Okay. That's what the market's going to trade on until we start to see changes to those estimates. But there's obviously a lot of people out there that are saying, you know what, I don't think I'm buying those numbers. I'm going to start betting that the consensus estimates are way too lofty here. But the bigger issue is the multiple right now that's being impacted. And where are we at on the multiple right now?
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21.51.
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21.51 is where the forward PE ratio is on the S&P 500. It was 22.2 two weeks ago. It has come down a little. But consider that the five-year average is 19.7. So we're still above the 10-year average is closer to 18. So we're still at a lofty PE ratio, especially given the new interest rate environment that we have of rising interest rates. But like I say, we don't have an earnings problem. We have a multiple problem, and that could be alleviated somewhat. We need to have those buyers start coming back into the bond market to drive interest rates down. Who knows, maybe when Trump takes office next Monday, which is also a holiday, by the way. Yeah, it is.
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It is Martin Luther King.
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The market will be closed. He will take office. Expect a rally on Tuesday? I don't know. I mean, that's what some are calling for. Okay, now we get into some individual stocks here as we begin the week. There's not a lot of really important companies reporting this week until we get into Thursday and Friday.
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We've got J.P. Morgan, Wells Fargo.
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Yeah, coming in with their earnings. We're going to get Schlumberger, Bank of America. We already got Taiwan Semiconductor, I think, last Friday. It was really good. Yeah, it was. So anyways, that's kind of the earnings picture. We're looking for record earnings this year, record earnings next year, and earnings have been going up since 2009. When those earnings start to rescind and start to get shaved, those numbers, then you're going to start heading into a bear market, okay? And that's why we always have to be on... high alert and be very very vigilance the mag seven uh... are looking for uh... apples looking for uh... ten percent growth uh... this year amazon eleven percent alphabet eleven percent meta fourteen microsoft thirteen nvidia fifty tesla sixteen and the magnificent seven overall fourteen percent is what they're looking for in growth this year versus last year. As I say, that's pretty healthy growth on tap, but those interest rates are messing us up right now. Okay, now, a lot of people saying strong chance the Fed hike. Here's one that comes up, the Fed hike this year. I saw Torsten Slock, chief economist at Apollo Group. He's a pretty well-known guy. Pretty smart. He's got his finger on the pulse of the market very closely. He's calling for a rate hike this year.
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Yeah, that was where I was talking about, you know, the kind of sentiment shift towards the end of the week last week where it was all of a sudden, I think, you know, I had in the background, you know, some financial news on, and it was, you know, I think three, you know, three bears in a row. He was one of them. Right. And just in terms of what was going, you know, kind of bearish sentiment, which, you know, you don't get a lot of times and, and, And none of them were Mike Wilson, so it was something to pay attention to because he's always bearish.
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Well, there's a little bit going on here in M&A. Johnson & Johnson is buying ITCI Intracellular. I was looking at that stock in the app. It was ranked number 19 as of last Friday. I missed it because it had a big bolt higher on Friday in anticipation. Then today it's up 35%. So Johnson & Johnson trying to do something. to kick up a little dust, kick up a little growth again. Another one here. Let's see if it's holding up. No, it's pulled back. It was up. The Natera guided Q4 above consensus. Macy's falls after issuing its holiday quarter update. That should come as no surprise. That's just a downward spiral. What can I say? That's a horrible, horrible chart. They're closing 66 more stores. It's now down to $4 billion. It's a small cap stock. Macy's. Macy's is a small cap stock. which is pretty hard to believe, but another poor holiday season. Shake Shack issues positive update. Problem is you've got downward wind against the market today, and Shake Shack's down 6% despite good news. Lululemon has guided higher here, and it's flat. They guided quite a bit higher, and yet it's flat. Let's see, Dexcom raises their outlook for 2025. No, the stock down.
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What do you think about that space in light of the GLP-1s and Wagovis of the world right through Lilly? I wonder how that affects Dexcom.
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I see a lot of sector rotation out of tech into medical. which is a little bit more reliable on the earnings front. It's considered a little bit more defensive. Of course, we still have a big position in Lilly. Lilly's look pretty good. I like the fact that if you've got sleep apnea, that has now been approved. You can go to Medicare. And get a prescription for Zepbound. Of course, you have to be diagnosed with sleep apnea. But that's a big boost for Lily. And Lily's definitely cleaning out all of these compounders. So I think things look pretty good for Lily. Retail looks horrible. We have an... In the... trading uh incubator we have a short inverse etf against the uh retail bricks and mortar which is scc i imagine it's having a good day yeah it's up a half a percent today it should be doing better than that because abercrombie and fitch is getting clobbered today Abercrombie & Fitch is down 18.7% right now. Urban Outfitters, these are companies that are kind of pre-announcing. Urban Outfitters is down 6%. It is a negative day, I've got to tell you. Just kind of like, you know, sentiment. Sentiment is not good on the market. Noodles, I don't give much credence to that. Noodles is guiding higher. It's a 68-cent stock. I remember one time many years ago, I said, this is a stock that I would short because it's not going to survive. And now it's 68 cents is noodles. And then J. Jill, you know, that one gives issues of soft guidance here too. So it doesn't look very good. I think what we've got to look at here today, and, you know, look at the charts. The newsletter this past weekend said, I started that thing at 8 a.m. I finished it at 4.30. So what is that, eight and a half hours? Because I felt like there's been some big shifts made. Big, big changes made in the market from a sentiment point of view, a technical point of view, a valuation point of view. But the technicals really show it. When you look at a chart of the Europe market, when you look at a chart of China, the emerging markets, the NASDAQ itself, Some of the sectors within the NASDAQ, the software stocks are breaking down. That's just the way it is. I have to report what I see and not try to spin it at all. That's what I see. That's what I observe, and I have to act accordingly. When we come back, we'll take a little look inside, dive underneath the muck of the market. We'll be right back. We'll be right back. And welcome back here to the final segment of today's Best Docs Now show. Well, as of now, let's just see the S&P 500 since the beginning of the year. Remember how strong we entered the year? Not that good, really. We had, from the time of the election until about a week before Christmas or so, we had a heck of a rally. It was just overdone. What can I say? I mean, it was fun to ride it up like that, but you could just tell that they were overdoing it to the upside, and some of that air had to come out of the tires. Right now, the S&P 500... Year to date since the beginning of the year, down 1.4%. The total world market, which I track, that's a pretty good indicator of the global, all the markets around the world. Right now that thing is down, and of course some markets are down more than that. The total world is down 1.5% since the beginning of the year. Now as I look inside the Dow today, it looks a lot better obviously than the NASDAQ does. The Dow actually looks pretty decent, more defensive, lower P.E. stocks. That's probably the explanation for that. Like you said, Barry, the health care stocks, you've got United Health Care is up 4%. despite all of the lot of sentiment, angry sentiment against UnitedHealthcare, seems to blow over, and they seem to be looking at the valuation and the earnings instead. It's up 4.4%.
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Yeah, I think the news cycle moved on to other shinier objects, I guess. We kind of forgot about Luigi.
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Luigi's not in the headlines anymore. Caterpillar is up 2.2%. Raytheon is up 1.9%. They're the leading sector so far this year for whatever reason. One of the issues is increased sanctions on Russia, but Russia seems to know how to get around those sanctions. China is storing a lot of oil in Russia, a lot of black market stuff going on. pardon the pun, in the oil markets. Exxon is also up here today. J.P. Morgan's up a little bit. They're going to report later this week. So your lower P.E., defensive sector, health care, energy, banks, they're doing okay. Now, who do you think the biggest loser is in the NASDAQ today from a percentage point of view? I mean, it's not awful. Nvidia is down 2.2%. And Nvidia, Jensen Wang is not happy with a new rule put out by the Biden administration in his final days that would further restrict spreading the good wealth, the NVIDIA chips, the high-tech chips out there. NVIDIA's improved a little bit. It's weird how NVIDIA is trading between $132 and $152. It gets to $152 and it backs up. He had some strong words. Yeah, Jensen Wang was not happy at all.
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He had some strong words for Biden at the end of last week. I think it was a story that came out a little bit right before we came on the show on last Friday.
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And the Quantum CEOs had some good words for Jensen Wang, some strong words against Jensen Wang. Now, they came back a little bit, but today I see one of them is doing a big secondary offering. That's not good. D-Wave, and they're down again today.
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Catching in some chips is what you're talking about.
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So if you're trading NVIDIA, I mean, it's at the bottom of its range again. It's vulnerable. It's weak. It attempted a breakout at new highs just five days ago leading up to his big CES speech last Monday. which didn't help it. But, you know, of all of the stocks, there's your best earnings by far. 50% earnings growth this year is what's expected. And, you know, it's also got a P.E. ratio of about 50, 52. But really, it's not that expensive from a valuation point of view is NVIDIA. The other loser today in the Dow is Apple. Apple just not doing real good with this current version of their iPhone. Apple's starting to fall apart. In fact, it's down $30 per share. Hulu is knocking it. I think it was Zuckerberg. It was Zuckerberg on his interview with Joe Rogan on Thursday. He dissed Apple saying how, you know, they're not an innovative company anymore. They're not coming up with anything new. Zuckerberg was really... Kind of what you've said, actually.
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I've been saying it for a long time. I mean, it's true. I use it for what we use it for, but yeah, nothing new. That's a lousy chart on Apple.
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Now, I will say this. Granite Shares has an inverse Apple. So here's how you could use that. Let's say we do have a client that owns a lot of Apple.
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Oh, yeah. And I don't think they want to sell it.
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And you could at least freeze the price of Apple. Let's say Apple goes down 20% in a correction. Well, if you have an equal amount inverse apple, you've frozen it, right, at whatever price it is today.
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Right.
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And you've prevented further downside. But you're down right now in apple about 11% from the high in just the last two weeks. Apple's got to come up with a whole new gig here soon because they can't keep living off of these little tiny upgrades that they do every year. And that's another thing that he said about them. Our friend Zuckerberg is, you know, they're just squeezing people, paying $1,000 for a few new bells and whistles every year. So anyways, Apple, that's not a good chart on Apple. Okay, and with the minute I have left, I'm just going to look at the NASDAQ really quickly. I don't really want to look at the NASDAQ, but I've got to look at the NASDAQ. I've got to believe the NASDAQ is breaking that last support level that I mentioned earlier. Ah, yes, but yeah, it's starting to rebound a little bit. It's down only 214 right now, but it has definitely broken its short-term support level. I think there's more downside risk to the NASDAQ. Biggest loser in the NASDAQ today would be, let's see here real quickly, down 4.8%. Micron is a stock that's just all over the place. Other than that, I would say that the NASDAQ is pretty well contained. There's nothing really breaking down here yet today. It seems like a risk-off move. I'll be in there swinging all day in those pits, those trading pits, see if I have to do anything. If anything, it would be protecting profits from last year and beefing up some inverse funds if I see that as a need right now. We already have some in place. And I just watch those charts. If they continue to break down, that calls for more inverse funds to protect. All right. Get four free weeks. Follow along with the fun. Go to GundersenCapital.com. Set up an appointment with us. If you don't think this is a world where somebody's got to be vigilant on your portfolio, oh, man. Give us a call at 855-611-BEST. 855-611-BEST. Have a great day, everybody.
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In this episode of The Kim Munson Show, we delve deep into the socialization of critical sectors like transportation, education, and energy, exploring the implications of increased government control. Join us as we unravel the complex web of policies and regulations that impact your freedom and property rights, drawing back the curtain on the motivations and consequences lurking beneath the surface. Discover why the foundation of America's identity lies in protecting property rights and ensuring freedom prevails over force. Our conversation takes a critical turn towards the narratives driving climate change discourse. Unpack the intentions behind these global initiatives and examine their real-world impacts on everyday life. With insights into recent developments in California's wildfire management and state policies, listen as we dissect the frustrating realities of political motivations overshadowing effective solutions. As always, we remain focused on the truth, providing clarity through discussions that emphasize the importance of freedom over coercion.
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It's the Kim Munson Show, analyzing the most important stories.
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Under this guise of bipartisanship and nonpartisanship, it's actually tapping down the truth.
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On an equal field in the battle of ideas, mistruths and misconceptions is getting us into a world of hurt.
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Is it freedom or is it force? Let's have a conversation.
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Indeed. Let's have a conversation. And welcome to the Kim Munson Show. Thank you so much for joining us. You each are treasured, you're valued, you have purpose today. Strive for excellence. Take care of your heart, your soul, your mind, and your body. My friends, we were made for this moment in history. And thank you to the team. That's Producer Joe, Luke, Rachel, Zach, Echo, Charlie, Mike, Teresa, and all the people here at Crawford Broadcasting. Happy Monday, Producer Joe. Happy Monday, Kim. And a lot's going on in our world. And so we are going to get into it here. Be sure and check out my website. That is Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter, which goes out on Sundays. You'll get first look at our upcoming guests as well as our most recent essays. You can email me at Kim at Kim Munson dot com. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice, and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. It's not compassionate to take other people's stuff. That's their rights, their property, their freedom, livelihood, opportunities, or lives. Force obviously can be a weapon, but policy, unpredictable and excessive taxation, fear, coercion, government-induced inflation. The World Economic Forum agenda, the globalist elites agenda, United Nations, the Colorado State Legislature, the Colorado governor, the World Health Organization, land use code, zoning regulations, force fees, conservation easements, national monument designations, and the list goes on and on and on. And Yeah, we're seeing where government is being used to prevent people from being able to use their property to to create their own wealth. And so anyway, we've got to continue to to focus on property rights, which we do, which America was property rights was foundational in the whole American idea. Remember, if something is a good idea, you don't have to use force to implement it. On the show, we focus on the issues, not the personalities. We'll talk about the people that are pushing these issues but want to stay out of the eighth-grade girl fighting kind of things. We want to stay focused and disciplined on those issues because that's what it's all really about. The show comes to you 6 to 8 a.m. Monday through Friday, and the first hour is rebroadcast 1 to 2 in the afternoon. Second hour, 10 to 11 at night. And you can hear this on all of the KLZ platforms, which is KLZ 560 AM, KLZ 100.7 FM, the KLZ website, and the KLZ app. And so let's get into our word of the day. The word of the day is dynamism. And it's spelled D-Y-N-A-M-I-S-M. And it's, number one, a philosophy or theory that all phenomena can be explained as a manifestation of force. Also could be basically something that's dynamic. So a dynamic personality or it says a dynamic or expansionist quality, the dynamism of a natural leader. And so your challenge is to use the word dynamism in a sentence today. And I would say that Trump really is exhibiting dynamism as he is preparing for his next term. And that inauguration is one week away. We are in, I think, a very dangerous time in our country. In fact, I've talked with a number of people this weekend. I think we're in our 1775 moment. We are in the third founding of our country. And it is a significant battle of ideas that we're involved in right now. And there are those that have been working to divide us for quite some time. And it's really the Marxist model to divide us. And I was traveling this weekend. And first of all, again, I always am refusing to have my photo taken as I'm going through security at the airport. and it's just really simple to say i'd prefer not to have my photo taken and so far each of the attendants has been very accommodating but it is amazing air travel is a pretty amazing thing just think about when the west was being settled it took months to get from where i where I flew out of to where I flew to. And I could do that all in a weekend, which is pretty amazing. And it's amazing to see the masses as we are traveling and living our lives. And I was reflecting that if... everybody has their handheld device in their hand and they're looking at something. And we've got to, we've got to, we need to reclaim this curiosity and search for truth. There's so many things that are being thrown at people. And so we do that remnant at a time. I'll put it that way. I quote for the day is from Maggie Thatcher. She was born in 1925. She died in 2013. She was a British stateswoman, conservative politician. She was the prime minister of the United Kingdom from 1979 to 1990 and a leader in the conservative party from 75 to 1990. And she was the longest serving British prime minister of the 20th century and the first woman to hold a position. And she implemented economic policies known as Thatcherism. A Soviet journalist dubbed her the Iron Lady, a nickname that became associated with her uncompromising politics and leadership style. And she said this. She said, you don't win by just being against things. You only win by being for things and making your message perfectly clear. And as we are engaged in this battle of ideas, I think that's very important to recall. This day in history, 1912, naked at 40 degrees Fahrenheit in Oakland, Maryland, which was a state record. And back in the 70s and 80s when Jimmy Carter was, well, I remember when Jimmy Carter was president back in the 70s, the headlines were that the world was going to freeze, that it was going to get too cold. And then, of course, the climate changes. And when it's negative 40 degrees Fahrenheit, you want it to get a little bit warmer. And so global warming is not a bad thing. But we were talking about global warming then that the earth was going to burn up. And then we had cold temperatures, warm temperatures. So they had to change the narrative to climate change. and the Green New Deal. The Green New Deal, under the guise of climate change, the goal is to bankrupt America and to bankrupt the West. And they're headed down that road for sure. That's why it's important that we have some real curiosity about these narratives that are being just really shoved down our throats. And that's why the documentary, A Climate Change, which Walt Johnson, his project is so important. And you can watch that for free. It's a documentary at climateconversation.com. And then also we have done a great podcast series with a number of scientists and experts, which really break down the whole narrative on that. And ultimately, the goal is to bankrupt the West. And one of the things is, is to change to prevent you from being able to change your own personal climate. And that is, is to be warm in the winter and cool in the summer. And how are they doing that? They are shutting down coal-fired power plants. They are, they, here, I will say that right here in Colorado, it is this governor and this legislature and these bureaucrats, these PBIs, politicians, bureaucrats, and interested parties shutting down Very well-run coal-fired power plants, making it very expensive for our natural gas producers to explore and develop natural gas, natural gas which is also instrumental in heating our homes and cooling our homes in the summer. And making it more and more expensive, which is really making it difficult for every it's making more expensive for everyday people to thrive and flourish. And I saw a bumper sticker, which I was out in California this weekend. And there was a lot of very conservative messages in the area that I was in. But taxation is theft. I think we all agree that there is an amount of taxation. And, of course, in the Constitution it says that there are specific things the federal government is supposed to do. And if those specific things are – if it's not that specific thing, then the federal government is not supposed to be doing that. And when you think about how much money is being taken out of your paychecks for Social Security, Medicare, taxes, fees – just think if you had more of that money in your pocket, your life would be more affordable. So when PBIs talk about affordability, one of the first things that needs to be done is that taxes need to be lowered. So that goes back to be sure and check out a climate conversation because what they're doing is they're using the climate change as a tool to really take more and more money out of your pocket and trying to bankrupt America. So let's go to some of the other headlines. 1920, the New York Times editorial falsely reports that rockets can never fly. So even back then, the New York Times was becoming somewhat questionable as the place to go for all your news. Certainly you may have that in your repertoire, but make sure that you are looking at a number of different news sources. In 1943, during World War II, British Prime Minister Winston Churchill arrives in Casablanca, French Morocco, for a conference of Allied forces in World War II. Went right into the war to do that. In 1943, the U.S. infantry captures Galloping Horse Ridge in Guadalcanal. That was a significant battle in 1943. 1962, Chubby Checker's song The Twist was credited with starting the twist dance craze, goes to number one in the charts two years after reaching the number one spot. And in 2024, an arctic blast affects large parts of the U.S. with 44 million people under winter weather advisory with Montana registering 60 degrees below zero. So, again, that's why the narrative changed from global warming to climate change. And the climate has always been changing. Again, last week when we had Colonel Bill Rutledge on, 96 years young, he was stationed in Greenland in 1956 for about a year. And there was, I think, a I think it was a geologist, that they were doing work and they would talk at the end of the day. And the other guy came in and said, gosh, I had a really interesting day. And Colonel Rutledge said, well, what happened? He said, well, we drilled down through the ice and we found shards of palm trees. And so the climate has always been changing, my friends. But to use that narrative to bankrupt the West and to move us into Marxism really is where they went ahead. That's why we need to shed light on this. I thank the Harris family for their gold sponsorship of the show. We are an independent voice. What that means is I purchased my airtime, which truly an entrepreneur to do that. And it gives us significant freedom to guest selection, subject selection. And I do appreciate each and every one of you for your suggestions, your word of the days. Thank you, Richard, the limo guy. Many times we'll send new words of the day. Text me at 720-605-0647. That's 720-605-0647. And the Roger Megan State Farm Insurance team has been in business for 48 years. He's seen a lot in this 48 years. And we typically prerecord his interviews. 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And welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter and you can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And I was in Southern California this weekend, was south of the fires, and did not have any smoke in the area that I was in because I think the winds were carrying the smoke certainly in a different direction. But this is really unbelievable what has occurred regarding these fires. And with people, the – my – Uber driver had great guy seemed like a really nice guy said that these fires just happen that he didn't think that it's and I'm paraphrasing should be politicized because the Santa Ana winds are significant and And I just listened. But we can prepare. And the idea that we know that there's the Santa Ana winds, we know that there can be dry conditions. But if we look at the policies over the past few years – And really, many of these 30 by 30 policies coming out of the World Economic Forum and the globalist elites that they're trying to push individuals into urban areas and have us live in apartment buildings, small apartments, and ride around on trains and buses, these smart cities. This is a real problem. And so also the fact that they have not been preparing for these kinds of wildfires. In fact, I was talking with someone this week and they said that, and we've talked with Trent Luce about this, that goats... and cows and sheep will eat and help manage the underbrush. And the fact that we don't have grazing of goats and sheep, and they're trying to prevent cattle grazing on a lot of the land in the West, And they actually, as they are grazing, they are helping to mitigate grass fires. And apparently in California, where they used to have goat grazing, they don't. So here we have these fires that are significantly more deadly. But this is from the Western Journal. And then you go ahead and do these kinds of things. In California, Governor Gavin Newsom cut spending on wildfire and forest resilience by $101 million seven months before fires began to rage around Los Angeles, according to a new report. His director of communications wasn't happy to see the information published. Newsom's come under fire, no pun intended, from President-elect Donald Trump for his handling of the disaster. And this one of the best, most beautiful parts of the United States of America is burning down to the ground. It's ashes and Gavin Newsom Newsom should resign. This is all his fault. Trump posted on Truth Social. It says in another Truth Social post, Trump slammed Newsom and Los Angeles Mayor Karen Bass, as well as President Joe Biden's federal emergency management plan. Gross incompetence by Gavin Newsom and Karen Bass and Biden's FEMA has no money all wasted on the green new scam. L.A. is a total wipeout. Well, in that particular area, it is. And it goes on to say a new report from Newsweek citing information from the state's legislative analyst's office has revealed that Newsom cut various wildfire programs in the current California budget. for the California Department of Forestry and Fire Protection, known as CAL FIRE. Among the cuts Newsweek reported in the budget, Newsom signed that in June. He took $5 million away from the department's vegetation control performed by the California National Guard. Agencies that promote wildfire resilience lost $28 million in the budget line, and a program to encourage good forest management practices was cut by $4 million. I also saw a headline that Newsom and company and the California state legislature leaders are going to spend $50 billion to try to throw marbles in front of Trump's agenda. And so California is, I think people, many people are waking up to this and then the Very troubling. It looks like that these fires began with potentially arson. And so I hope that we get to the bottom of all of this. This came in on the text line 720-605-0647. And this was from Eric. He said the Democrats changed the narrative to climate change to a lie. And it certainly, certainly is. We've got to take responsibility. We know the climate always changes. And so we've got to be sure. continue to shed light on this the next headline is California is caught off guard by massive fires after the LA Fire Department spent years pushing racial equity and again this racial equity defining people by the color of their skin instead of the content of their character is again Marxist and apparently There are reports that Karen Bass, the mayor of Los Angeles, is, we'll put it this way, has communist ties to Cuba. And she was in Ghana while L.A. was burning. But we'll go on here to this article. And this is from, let's see here. It is... hold on the tampa free press says the los angeles fire department committed significant resources to diversity equity and inclusion initiatives before the outbreak of massive fires that devastated the los angeles area overnight i guess the the interesting thing about it is is these fires certainly they burned everything that anybody in its path and it didn't notice whether or not they were diverse or equal. It certainly devastated everybody in its line of fire. It went on to say the Los Angeles Fire Department has implemented an internal racial equity plan subjected employees to diversity training and is currently led by Chief Kristen Crowley, the first female and LGBTQ fire chief in the L.A., Los Angeles Fire Department. She's a staunch supporter of those initiatives. And as strong winds fed the wildfires on Tuesday evening, former Republican Los Angeles mayoral candidate Rick Caruso reported that some fire hydrants were running low on water as the department scrambled to mobilize fires. And then one of our listeners, Mary, actually sent me a video of firefighters filling women's purses with water and trying to put out a small flame. It goes on to say, it says the department's racial equity plan adopted in 2021 asserts that the Los Angeles Fire Department is a better firefighting organization for focusing on the demographic characteristics of its personnel. The strength of any organization rests in its greatest resource, its people. And the Los Angeles Fire Department leadership cannot accomplish any of the racial equity and inclusion goals without the employees to accomplish the work and embrace the vision. while being guided by competent leadership. Well, we're seeing that all of this is very incompetent and people are losing their homes. I saw the other night on one of the news sources, it was a video of Adam Carolla, the comedian who said that There really is going to probably be a shift by a number of those very Democrat-supporting people in Colorado, the elites, when they go back to try to rebuild their homes, when they see all the rules and regulations and fees that would go into trying to rebuild their homes. And I did see a headline that said that some of the rules might be relaxed for building homes. What that means is, is we should not have them in the first place. And so stay tuned on all of this. Next thing, this is again from the Tampa Free Press. Woke cartel of financial giants are dealt a death blow 11 days before Trump takes office. I actually don't think that that's the case. I think that probably the initiative was dealt, that particular initiative was dealt a death blow. But what's going to happen is they're going to just redirect. But this is the headline. It says, The firm, which manages over $10 trillion and has been a leader in ESG, environmental, social, and governance investing, has left the Net Zero Asset Managers Coalition, a United Nations-sponsored collection of financial services companies that have pledged to achieve net zero portfolios by 2050 or sooner. says the move comes less than two weeks before President-elect Donald Trump, who plans to embrace fossil fuels in a second term, takes office and follows the exits of a slew of other corporations, including Goldman Sachs, Wells Fargo, Citicorp, Bank of America, Morgan Stanley and JPMorgan Chase. says in a letter to investors vice chair philip hildebrand wrote that the asset managers membership in the net zero asset management has caused confusion regarding blackrock's practices and subjected us to legal inquiries from there you have it right there legal inquiries from various public officials Okay. And it began this ESG initiative in 2020 with CEO Larry Fink stating that climate risk is an investment risk and that climate change would spark a fundamental reallocation of capital. However, the world's largest asset manager, Exit, has been backpedaling on its ESG efforts as of late, only supporting about 4% of the $450 493 environmental and social investment proposals shareholders put forth before the end of June 2023 and the end of 2024. So that's a really big deal as well. And then lastly, here locally, this is from the Denver Post, and this was published just recently. It says the number of Denver restaurants has shrunk 22% since 2021. And that is a stark figure that is indicative of the challenges eateries continue to face beyond the coronavirus pandemic. There were 2,166 restaurants in the city at the end of 2021 and 2,118 at the end of 2022, according to Denver's Department of Exercise and Licenses, which requires owners to keep active retail licenses. It says the city couldn't provide numbers for 2023. They were unreliable because the department transferred the entire application process online that year. But by the end of 2024, there were only 1,693 active restaurant licenses. And again, I was talking with someone this weekend, and it seems that, and it is true, under Marxism, you cannot have entrepreneurs. And of course, restaurant owners are some of the really at the forefront of being an entrepreneur. And so that is certainly under attack. We see entrepreneurship all totally under attack. And that's why we have to reclaim entrepreneurship. our American idea, and that's why we do the show. And another set of entrepreneurs is realtors, and they certainly have been under attack as well. But to work with a realtor that has a lot of experience, has your best interest in mind, that realtor is Karen Levine. And for anything residential real estate in the metro market, give her a call.
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okay welcome back to the kim munson show be sure and check out our website that is kim munson m-o-n-s-o-n.com sign up for our weekly email newsletter and you can email me at kim kimmunson.com as well thank you to all of you who support us we're an independent voice we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force force versus freedom if something's a good idea you should not have to force people to do it and do have on your list this year to make sure that you support the USMC Memorial Foundation. It is so important that we remember and honor those that have given their lives or been willing to give their lives for our freedom. The official Marine Memorial is right here in Colorado. It was dedicated in 1977. Paula Sarles, the president of the USMC Memorial Foundation, is a Gold Star wife and also a Marine veteran. And she and her team are focused on making this a reality. So check out all that they're doing at usmcmemorialfoundation.org. Really pleased to have on the line with me Joshua Scharf. And he is the Senior Fellow in Fiscal Policy with the Independence Institute. And he's written an important piece. It says Colorado's legislature is more gerrymandered than ever. You can find that at Complete Colorado. Joshua, welcome to the show.
SPEAKER 05 :
Good morning, Kim.
SPEAKER 09 :
It is great to have you. And interesting, the 8th Congressional District was very, very close in this last election, and it ended up going to Gabe Evans. And so we have a U.S. House delegation. We have four Democrats and four Republicans going to Congress. But you said that the re-importment, and many Democrats have been whining about that, I guess. So let's start there, Joshua.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, so the overall congressional vote in the state was, I want to say something, I don't have the exact numbers, but I want to say something like 60-40, maybe a little less than that. This is the congressional vote, aggregate vote, for the Democrats, and yet the congressional seats are split for four. That is, the Republicans managed to win eight, and then also three, four, and five, which is so... Eight was extremely close. It was one of the closest races in the country. It wasn't as close as Lauren Boebert's race was in 2022, which was the closest in the country. But it was very, very close, and it wasn't called until a number of days after the election. Well, the Democrats are very upset about that. They believe that to some degree they were, if redistricting had been done the way they would have liked it, they would have picked up one, possibly two seats. The third is closer than people often think it is. Well, that's fine. But at the reapportionment level, which is for the state legislature, it's a completely different story. And these both use independent commissions. And they are intended, at least they were sold, as being less partisan, more independent, more objective than the prior method of doing reapportionment and redistricting. But they're two different commissions. They're appointed differently. And the reapportionment commission, which is responsible for state legislative districts, has produced a legislature which is even more gerrymandered than it has historically been, at least for the last couple of cycles when it's been in effect.
SPEAKER 09 :
Wow. Well, and set this up because I'm going down memory lane on this was this was these commissions were voted on by the by the people of Colorado, right?
SPEAKER 05 :
Yes, it was a constitutional amendment that was passed in, I want to say, 2018.
SPEAKER 09 :
Okay. And I recall that I was concerned about – it was sold to us that it would make it more fair, I think. And, in fact, there were Republicans that said that this would at least give us a chance in some of these elections. But it's really played out differently, yes? Yes.
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Yeah, it's played out very, very differently. So the history of how to go into a little bit of the history here of how districts have been drawn in Colorado up until 1962, districts were county based and everything. So I'm talking about the state house. Everything was at large. So what you saw was and the reason that I use the house name. for this is that all the seats are up every two years. It's easier to get aggregate numbers. You don't have the differences in districts where the Senate was half of the Senate is up every other election cycle. And so there are differences in those Senate seats in the Senate districts that wouldn't necessarily show up, and you might have a year where there were a lot of heavily Democratic districts up, let's say, and so the vote might tend to be skewed. So if the whole state is up, this gives you a more rounded picture of the entire state if you're looking at the state House seats where everything is up every two years. So if you go back up until 1962, districts were county-based, so you didn't have split counties, and everything was at large. What that means is that Denver, for example, as time went on, more and more of the population, let's say, was concentrated in Denver for a very long time. And so maybe there were 15 at-large seats in Denver. And people might do a little bit of ticket splitting. Maybe there was one particular candidate from the other party that they really liked who had been in for a while or who ran a really solid campaign. But for the most part, people didn't split tickets all that much. And so you would end up with all 15 seats or 14 out of the 15 seats going to one party when the vote was clearly maybe 60-40, maybe 55-45. in favor of that party, but because people didn't split seats, didn't split their ticket, you end up with the least popular, say, Republican still pulling more votes than the most popular Democrat or the other way around. And so you had these huge swings of overperformance where a party would get many, many more seats than it should have gotten based on the aggregate vote. Obviously, we have a district system, not a proportional representation system, but you still hope that they kind of track each other a little bit. After 1964... And Colorado did this before the Supreme Court ruling, but there was a Supreme Court ruling that said you couldn't have districts that way, that state legislative districts had to be drawn essentially the same way as congressional districts. They had to be of roughly the same population, and they set some parameters about what that meant. So Colorado went from this at-large system where everything was at-large within the county to a districted system. And what that meant was that these swings of overperformance camped down. They weren't nearly as wild as they were when you had everything at large. You didn't get parties, for the most part, getting 10 more seats or 15 more seats than the vote would have justified. But you ended up with much more consistency because now it was a partisan process. This is a process that most of us remember for about – that went on for about 50 years. This is a process that most of us are familiar with. The Republicans controlled the legislature. They drew the lines in a bill passed by the General Assembly, and it tended to favor Republicans, and they would get two, three, four seats more votes. than the aggregate vote would suggest that they should get, for the most part. I mean, you had some years like the Watergate year where the Democrats did really well. But for the most part, the Republicans outperformed because they were the ones drawing the line. It was a partisan process. And you would expect that. And then beginning in 2000, when the Democrats became more competitive and took the state Senate. So if you remember in – when it was the state Senate, it took the – yes, the state Senate in 2000. So now you have the way that it was structured. That gave them the ability to sort of stall the bill until they got something that they liked. And with the courts, it was a seriously contested process that year. And so the courts ended up threatening that they were going to impose a map. Eventually, the legislature passed a map that everyone could kind of live with. But it ended up favoring the Democrats. And since 2000, for the last two cycles, we've had, in essence, Democrat control of the redistricting process. I'm sorry, reapportionment process. And it has tended to favor them. by on average, maybe a seat or so more than the Republicans, it favored them. And so there was this sense that then, of course, in 2010, the Republicans now, you know, usually being in the minority, picked up one of the chambers of the, I think it was the state Senate in the state legislature. And again, you had this very contested process. And so what happened was he said, well, listen, we can't do this every 10 years. We can't have this partisan fight every 10 years. I don't know why not, but people got – they used this as an opportunity to push through this allegedly nonpartisan process. Republicans were willing to sign on to it because they felt that, as you said, maybe it will give us a chance. Maybe if we put all these protections in. where we don't have unaffiliated voters who are actually one party or the other, but are actually unaffiliated. And they hold the balance. And it has to win X number of unaffiliated representatives on this commission. So it's not clearly a partisan map. Maybe it'll give us a chance to not be so outnumbered. We have to remember that for three elections in a row, For three elections in a row at one point, the Democrats got a minority of the aggregate two-party vote. The Republicans statewide got more votes for statehouse than Democrats did, but the Democrats controlled the legislature. So the Republicans sort of felt, well, maybe this is a way that we can at least get seats that are in line with the number of votes we're getting.
SPEAKER 09 :
So let's go to break and keep that.
SPEAKER 05 :
I'm sorry. Sorry about the long lecture there. No, no, no. That's good.
SPEAKER 09 :
But I want to talk about then what is you know, what is really happening. And I'm talking with Joshua Scharf. And this is a piece that he has written that is in Complete Colorado regarding, and let me get the exact title here, and that is, there we go, Colorado's legislature is more gerrymandered than ever. And this is really important from a strategic standpoint. And Joshua seems to have the ability to really be able to look at these things that many of us would just gloss over and understand the importance of this from a strategic standpoint. Because I really do think that Colorado is a spot where the radical activists try to to run things here and see how it works here and then try to export that to other places. And that's why we need to shed light on this. And we do this because of our sponsors. For everything mortgages, reach out to Lauren Levy.
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Welcome back to the Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter and you can email me at Kim at Kim Munson dot com as well. And be sure and check out the website for the Center for American Values. They're going to have a great event on Thursday, the 23rd. Unfortunately, I cannot make it because I will be at the Colorado Union of Taxpayers legislative event on the same evening tomorrow. But this is going to be regarding the USS Pueblo, which was captured by the North Koreans in the Vietnam War and was held captive for about a year. And Bob Chica, who was one of those POWs, is going to be speaking. down at the Center for American Values. So be sure and check that out. It's a unique experience. So be at one of the two places, either the Center for American Values or the Colorado Union of Taxpayers legislative kickoff. And you can get more information about that by going to the coloradotaxpayer.org, which is our CUT website. And the website for the Center for American Values is americanvaluecenter.org. Joshua Scharf, as you're reflecting on this regarding you're talking about 2000, which there's the it's done every 10 years, correct?
SPEAKER 05 :
Yes, it's done after the census.
SPEAKER 09 :
Okay, after the census. And I really do think that the radical activists that have taken over the Democrat Party have been playing long ball. So back in 2000, was that right around the time where the blueprint, the book The Blueprint, where there was four very wealthy Democrats had come up with a strategy to try to take over Colorado? Was that around that time frame?
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, it was. And that was sort of the first burbings when they managed to take back one of the houses of the state legislature. And so there's no question that holding on to the state legislature or getting control of the state legislature was one of the key elements. I think that And if you look at this, let's finish out what's happened since the independent commission has been in play. So this is for the last two cycles. We have the 2020 census, and we have the reapportionment commission, and then we have elections in 2022 and 2024, this past year. In each case, the aggregate vote would have entitled the Democrats to 35 of the House seats as opposed to 30 for the Republicans. But if you remember in 2022, it was 46 to 19. That is, the Democrats overperformed by 11 seats. And this past year, it wasn't quite so lopsided. They overperformed by eight seats. So it's 43 to 22. And so it's not quite a supermajority, but the difference is staggering. I mean, if you're on a committee and... let's say the committee has nine members. It's the difference between being outvoted, say, seven to two or six to three and being outvoted five to four. Maybe there's a chance of negotiating with the squishiest member of the majority or the member who's got the most marginal seat that you can get more favorable legislation out of the committee, get some amendments out of that. But If you're down 46 to 19 or 43 to 22, it's almost impossible. I mean you're in a situation where you're just outgunned in every direction. And so this stuff matters in terms of what kind of legislation comes out of it, what kind of bills get passed, what kind of bills get considered. It absolutely matters. And so – I think what's happened here is because people tend to look at the congressional races more than the state legislative races. I think what's happened is that the reapportionment has been much more aggressive in order to sort of give cover to the whole process. And then eventually once – they'll get around to – maybe the next election they'll get around to, quote-unquote, fixing the problem with the redistricting at the congressional level. And then we'll be at 6-2 or 5-3, pretty much locked in in congressional seats. But I think the idea was that they really want to be aggressive in holding on to the state legislature… and make it very, very difficult, for instance, to undo this process, which they've been successfully able to game at the state legislative level.
SPEAKER 09 :
So first question, and I remember now Republicans that were out there touting this particular ballot question. Are we holding any of them accountable on this?
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, one of them unfortunately passed away. This is the former House leader. Oh, goodness. That's embarrassing. Was it Huma Kean? Yeah, thank you. Yeah, yeah. He really felt that this was a process that would benefit. Listen, I mean, a lot of them got held accountable by the voters and didn't get reelected. I mean it was – so I don't know – or moved on to other – moved on from the legislature. So I don't know that there's – at this point, there are too many people around to aim fire at. I think it's more just of an object lesson that you need to be careful what it is that you wish for, that when it was a partisan process – It was in the open. It was much more in the open. The maps got debated more openly. There was an opportunity for – even though the committee still met, appointed as it was. The committee obviously didn't have a lot of open meetings. I mean, it was still a relatively closed process in producing the original maps. There was an understanding that it was a partisan process. Here, if you sort of pretend that it's not a partisan process, that everybody's sort of walking in, you know, stroking their chins, well, how can we be most fair? Then, you know, it provides cover for a lot more mischief. And I think it gives it a patina of credibility that it doesn't necessarily deserve. These are enormous over-performances. These are over-performances that we haven't seen since 1974 in the Watergate election. It happened two elections in a row.
SPEAKER 09 :
and the over-performances for the Democrats. And of course, these decisions that are being made down at the State House, so many of them, the things that are proposed are so radical, whether or not it's our Second Amendment rights, or the transgender activism, or the climate agenda, trying to shut down our energy sector, all of those things are what's occurring because of that. What can we do about this, Joshua Scharf?
SPEAKER 05 :
You can't do a ton about it until the next census, but what the party leadership needs to do and what the individual party members can do as well is to see which districts are most marginal and focus your efforts there. I mean if you've got – one of the things about reapportionment, one of the things about gerrymandering is that you have to make choices. You can either lock in a solid – but relatively small or smaller majority. Or you can try to get a whole lot of seats, but a lot of those seats are going to be more marginal. So because of the over-performances, a lot of those seats are more marginal. And we saw a little bit of that in 2022, a little bit of, I'm sorry, 2024, sort of reversion to the mean, back to what was in a red wave year where we didn't really see too much of that in Colorado. We did pick up a few House seats. You can focus on the marginal seats and really try and do something about that. But for electoral strategy, that's really what you're left with until the 2030 census when we go through all this again.
SPEAKER 09 :
Goodness. So our quotes that I did today was from Maggie Thatcher. And, you know, one of the things that she said was regarding messaging. We have to have this is she said, you can't just stand against things. Let me get over here to it. But that you have to. Let's see here. She said, you don't win by just being against things. You only win by being for things and making your message perfectly clear. And I think that many times, particularly here in Colorado, Republicans have a difficult time trying to figure out what we really stand for because there's – the Republican Party here in Colorado is so divided right now. I know to throw that out there and only have a minute left is – It is a big thing. But what's your final thought you want to leave with our listeners, Joshua Sharf? And thank you.
SPEAKER 05 :
Oh, well, first of all, thank you for having me on. Secondly, I would say, listen, both parties are mixes of coalitions. Both parties are coalitions. And they have things that often sections of that coalition are loggerheads with each other. Right now, it's more apparent. But if you're the Democrats, a little easier, because your answer is always more government. For Republicans, your answer has to be to trust the people to run their own lives and to make their own decisions. It has to be to free people from being told what to do and having to live by sets of rules that they have essentially no hand in writing.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well said, Joshua Scharf. And again, be sure and check his piece out at Complete Colorado, because from a strategic standpoint, it's important to understand this. When we say, how did we get here? It's been all these different little strategies that's made this happen. Joshua, keep up the great work. We'll talk again soon.
SPEAKER 05 :
Thank you very much, Kim.
SPEAKER 09 :
And again, that's Joshua Scharf, and you can find his piece at Complete Colorado. It's spelled S-H-A-R-F is how you spell his last name when you're searching for that. Our quote for the end of the show is from Maggie Thatcher. She said, when I'm out of politics, I'm going to run a business. It'll be called Rent-A-Spine. So today, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals, and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you. God bless America, and stay tuned for hour number two.
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Indeed, let's have a conversation and welcome to our number two of the Kim Munson show. Thank you so much for joining us. You each are treasured, you're valued, you have purpose. Today's drive for excellence, take care of your heart, your soul, your mind and your body. My friends, we were made for this moment. And thank you to the team that I get to work with as producer Joe, Luke, Rachel, Zach, Echo, Charlie, Mike, Teresa, and all the people here at Crawford Broadcasting. Happy Monday, producer Joe. Happy Monday, Kim. Super interesting. These discussions, Joe, are so important. As a 26-year-old, had you really thought about the importance of this strategy that is occurring? Because it plays out in our lives. And I think sometimes we don't look under the hood on this. That's why I love what Joshua Scharf is doing, Joe.
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I like it too. And honestly, I often try and think about all the angles that are possibly coming. So it was really interesting how he laid out a new perspective that I didn't think about.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, and that is one of the reasons why Colorado is in the situation that we're in. The legislature is very, very blue, a radical activist blue. And I think when we talk with our friends that are Democrats, we need to connect the dots that this Democrat Party is not the Democrat Party of JFK or your grandpa or your grandma. This Democrat Party is... focused on marxism particularly here in colorado and so again what joshua said at the very end regarding the the difference is is is do you and jay davidson actually just wrote a piece that uh was in i think an american thinker and we'll talk with him about that later this week uh more and total control government control over your life Or you controlling your life in liberty, which is the responsible exercise of freedom. Those are really the questions that are out there. And we have these discussions because of our sponsors. Hooters Restaurants has been a great sponsor for many, many years. And it's an important story how I got to know them. It's a story about freedom and free markets and capitalism. and those pesky PBIs that want to control everything. You can find that story at my website. But Hooters Restaurants has five locations, Loveland, Aurora, Lone Tree, Westminster, and Colorado Springs. And their fish and chips are really great. They have wonderful lunch specials Monday through Friday and, of course, happy hour specials as well. Great place to get together to watch all of the games and get with friends. And so be sure and check all that out. Our word of the day is... And it is spelled D-Y-N-A-M-I-S-M. It's a noun. And it could be a philosophy or theory that all phenomena can be explained as manifestations of force. It could be obviously being dynamic. And I think that the dynamism of Donald Trump is, I think, really what we need right now. He's not our savior. And, of course, some people are put off by his personality. I find it very entertaining myself. But I so appreciate what he is doing. And to that point, I had a... colleague that reached out and asked me about, let me see if I can get this here. It asked me, what do we say when people say to us, oh, Donald Trump is a convicted felon? And that was really the goal of trying to get this conviction and this sentence done before he took office. and um let's see here let's let's put it this way and so she said what do we say to that i said this is a great question and i'd like to hear what you all have to say about this when we're talking with people because that narrative is out there people that are not paying attention totally to politics just looking at headlines maybe getting most of their news from mainstream media sources They say, oh, Donald Trump is a convicted felon and try to make his presidency illegitimate. I think that's ultimately what they're trying to do and divide us. And so this is my response. And let me know what you think about this. It says, these are my initial thoughts. Convicted on 34 counts sounds like a lot. However, when digging deeper, the 34 counts were accounting entries. Number one, 11 invoices for legal services. Number two, 11 checks paid for legal services. Number three, 12 ledger entries for legal services. The total amount was $130,000. And the crime he is convicted of is trying to influence an election. It's very concerning that Americans can be convicted of felonies for accounting entries. I'm going to continue to watch this issue and those that prosecuted him. And then I did include the NPR article that showed these 34 counts. And then I think that I would redirect my conversation to this. I'm hopeful that Trump will reclaim many of the good things of his first presidency. Number one is secure border that we know who is coming into America. They're coming here for free stuff or they want to hurt us. They should not be admitted. They're coming to pursue the American dream. Then they must get in line and apply legally like everyone else. Number two, energy affordability, energy abundance and energy freedom. And number three, a more peaceful world. When Donald Trump was president, the first time the bad guys were not rattling their sabers and making war. I want a better world for my children and grandchildren. I think that Trump wants the same. And so that was my response. So let me know what you think. You can text me 720-605-0647. Our quote of the day is by Maggie Thatcher. And she was born in 1925 and she died in 2013. And she was prime minister of Britain from 1979 to 1990. She says, you don't win by just being against things. You only win by being for things and making your message perfectly clear. And the American idea is for individual freedom, for everyday people to be able to live their lives and pursue their dreams. And that certainly is under attack and really by the radical activists that have taken over the Democrat Party. 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You know, I'd like to share something with you. We did an analysis between, let me see, seven insurance companies, State Farm included. And they were farmers, AAA, Allstate, Liberty Mutual, Costco, and Nationwide. The prices for a home at $560,000, and a car at, this is actually two cars, an Acura and a Sienna. These are annual prices. And then an umbrella liability policy. So on the high end of those four policies, home, two cars, and an umbrella liability policy, the range was as low as $3,700 for the same coverages, as high as $8,400. So it's like, when you buy insurance, it's very difficult to go out and get all those comparisons and do a good job analyzing and organizing the concept on some kind of a spreadsheet. which, by the way, we would be glad to do for you if you would give us permission. I want to highlight a little bit about the finding here. Turned out that Farmers was the highest, and Liberty Mutual at this point was the lowest, $3,700 versus $8,400. The other companies like AAA, they were at 5,200. Allstate was at 5,200. State Farm was at 4,700. Nationwide was at 4,500. The two companies that were lower than all the rest of them, Liberty Mutual and Costco, Liberty Mutual was at $3,700, actually $1,000 a year less than State Farm. The reason for that is they do not have agents. So if you want an agent, you're going to pay more because the agent gets a renewal commission for the services he provides to you. Costco was actually a little higher than Liberty Mutual. so there's a lot of ways to shop for it but you want to make sure your situation is probably unique do you really have the correct amount of coverage for your family at this time in your life you have children that drive those children are learning to drive if they have an accident do you have an umbrella liability policy that steps in behind the liability you have in your cars people you know insurance is getting more expensive why should i buy an umbrella I would say you should definitely have. It's a must because we have a lot of people out there. Do you listen to lawyers advertise on how they're going to help you get more money out of a lawsuit? And they do. They get a lot of money out of a lawsuit. And if you have base limits, and base today is different than it was 10 years ago, of course, base today would be $250,000 slash $500,000 slash $100,000. If you don't know what that means, again, call us. We'll walk you through it. But if you get sued for $250,000, great, your policy is going to pay it. You get sued for $450,000, all they're gonna pay is 250 and you're out $200,000. An umbrella steps in, umbrellas are maybe $200 a year. So you really, and I'm not admonishing you, but take the time and pay attention because the devil is in the details. If you just are looking for the lowest price, then you can go anywhere. You don't need an agent. But if you really want to protect your family in a very positive and sequential way, we can help you do that.
SPEAKER 17 :
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SPEAKER 18 :
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SPEAKER 09 :
And welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is KimMunson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. And you can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice. We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. I do thank the Harris family for their goal sponsorship of the show. They've been great sponsors of the show for many, many years. And as you know, we're searching for truth and clarity on these issues and very pleased to have on the line my next two guests. That is Maria Sumnick and John Spence. And Maria, you know, I always look at your name and I don't think I've ever asked you how to pronounce your last name. So did I get close on that?
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, you did. It was good. That was good. It's actually easy once you break it up. It's S-U-M, like sum, like the sum of two numbers, and then the word for not in German, nicht, N-I-C-H-T.
SPEAKER 09 :
Okay. Sum, nicht. Okay. Well, Maria Sumnick and John Spence are on the line. Maria was the New York City Cyber Command Urban Technology Architect. And John Spence is the Colorado Director of the EMP Task Force. And I wanted to get them on the line because I saw this article from Newsmax saying, It said, and this was just recently, that the Biden White House made a stunning admission that Chinese hackers have the ability to cripple the American power grid and ports, and it is reportedly not just run-of-the-mill intrusions, but increasingly sophisticated actors with unparalleled skills. So, Maria, what do you think about this?
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, having... Having led a penetration testing team for the City of New York Cyber Command and having tested some of the components that go into, let's say, a port crane and other systems that are on ships, like lighting systems, air conditioning, HVACs, which is heating, air conditioning systems, They are all vulnerable. They all have back doors. And trying to get manufacturers to remediate these vulnerabilities was difficult, even in a city the size of New York. What New York has that other cities lack in muscle is the fact that when they buy something, they never buy in small quantities. The city will order 80,000 GPS transponders, right? And that totals in the tens of millions for manufacturers. So we had some muscles like, well, we're not going to pay you or we're not even going to buy your thing until you remediate it. So- This is a huge, huge problem, and it seems like it's not going to get resolved because there is a lack of understanding by government to resolve it. And I'll let John now talk to that.
SPEAKER 09 :
Okay, John Spence, Colorado Director of the EMP Task Force. This is scary when I hear the words, this is not going to get resolved, because it puts everyday Americans at tremendous risk. It does.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, it really does. And we're the Task Force on National Homeland Security. EMP is a major part of that. The old name was EMP Task Force. Now it's Task Force on National and Homeland Security, because we're concerned about all threats, including this threat. So, yeah, I think Maria has really kind of said it all about the Chinese hacking. I mean, they're into most all of our systems, and it's a very scary situation and something we're very concerned about in terms of our critical infrastructure protection. I don't think I really have a whole lot to add to what Maria said.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah. One thing I'd like to add, Kim – This runs so deep. Back in 2018, there's a rather large manufacturer of motherboards. So motherboards are the brain in your computers, okay? Just think of them that way. And the name of the manufacturer, I don't mind calling them out, Super Micro, based out of the San Francisco Bay Area. Now, they were sending their motherboards to be manufactured in China. So the Chinese actually... embedded, you know, ET call home chips on this thing, on these motherboards. Now, what's scary about this is that super micro motherboards are used on every single server manufactured in every single data center, okay? From the government to, you know, the Google data centers to Facebook data centers, all servers had this motherboard on it. And so think about that. Having a backdoor to every server in the United States, and for that matter of fact, across the world. And just the other day, Cisco released an announcement, Cisco Systems, basically the backbone of hardware on that component. really makes up our World Wide Web, just announced about a hidden backdoor in a server. Again, again, because it was, they used firmware from Huawei, okay, a Chinese company. So this problem is absolutely infiltrated everywhere. everything. There is nothing that is secure from our own cell phones. You think your cell phone is secure? No, they can access your cell phone and take your pictures at any time. Take your picture. What I mean is have access to it and your contacts, whatever, drop in, listen, all that, your computers, everything, everything. And why? Because, and I'm going to call it out as it is, because I have presented in Congress over the summer twice, went to D.C. and presented to them vulnerabilities, not only of the grid, but for me, it's water as well. I was responsible for the cybersecurity posture of the water systems and did vulnerability assessments against New York City's water system. And we remediated what we could, but there's... The funding isn't there for most water districts to do the type of testing we did in New York City. There are grants available. But the thing is, is without electricity, without the grid, if the grid goes down, the pumps don't work. Hence, we get no water. Well, without water, most humans, especially young children and babies, cannot live more than three days. So this is really, really critical, and America really needs to hold their representatives accountable, be calling them and saying, why? Why haven't you done this? You have been presented with information regarding vulnerabilities, not just with information of the vulnerabilities, but remediation, things that they can do right now, but nothing has been done.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, John, this, from like a military standpoint, it would be very easy to just basically cripple America immediately, right? Am I hearing that correctly?
SPEAKER 06 :
Right, and that's not all of it. I mean, I think you talked about this before, Kim, but we're importing a very large number of our largest transformers from China, right? From 2006 to 2003, the U.S. has imported almost 450 transformers. Okay, wait a second. 2006 to 2000, what, 23? 2023, yeah. Okay, okay. Okay.
SPEAKER 09 :
And some of these are the largest, 360 of them, are the largest transmission system transformers necessary for operation of the grid. Okay.
SPEAKER 06 :
And one thing that came out was a complaint before FERC, F-E-R-C. And in July 16, 2021, the former director of intelligence programs at the National Security Council in the Trump administration confirmed that after the Chinese transformer was taken to the national lab, they found hardware that that was put into that that had the ability for someone in China to switch it off. So you need to have an electromagnetic pulse attack to take out the grid necessarily. China could do it just by switching off many of its very large transformers.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right. And make it look like it's a cyber attack, Kim, because they can really all that happened in the background is they flipped a switch. Okay. Because they have a into this thing. Like I said, they have back doors into every server. You know, if people haven't done things to harden their systems, their server farms, their cloud computing centers, this is a huge problem. This is really a big problem.
SPEAKER 06 :
And, you know, back in – you were talking about the phones earlier. Some of our adversaries have the capabilities, as we do, to use phones as a listening device. And to take pictures, you know, using the phones. So when we did top secret work back in those days, we could take the battery out of our phone and talk about it. But whenever we went into a real secure facility, we couldn't take the phones in with us. So, you know, that's something that is certainly a concern and well known about in the government, I think.
SPEAKER 09 :
Okay, let's continue this discussion with Maria Sumdick and John Spence. They're both regarding these vulnerabilities, not making me feel very good about this. And we're at significant risk. It is important that we discuss this, that's for sure. And so many different things, it seems like. of these lives that we take for granted are under attack. And if we talk about it on a regular basis as well, there is this war on beef. And beef is such a great protein source in our diets, and so we are shedding light on that on a regular basis as well. And for a really great premium product, it truly is the steakhouse experience at home, check out Lavaca Meat Company.
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And welcome back, Kim Munson Show. Check out our website. That is Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at Kim Munson dot com as well. Thank you. Support us. We're an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should have to force people to do it. January 23rd, Thursday evening, there's going to be two great events, and choose one or the other, but you need to be probably at one or the other. One is the Center for American Values in Pueblo, and the center is located on the beautiful Riverwalk there. They're having an on-values president regarding the USS Pueblo, which was taken captive by the North Koreans in the Vietnam War. And the crew was held in captivity for a year. And Robert Chica, who was one of those prisoners of war, is going to be presenting down at the center. And you can get more information about all of that at AmericanValueCenter.org. And then the Colorado Union of Taxpayers will be having our legislative kickoff at the Colorado Automobile Dealers Association. You can buy your tickets. They're only $10.00. and you can also join us and become a member and you will get our emails that we send to legislate legislators and the governor each week regarding proposed legislation down at the state house and you need to be informed so you can figure out what to do and that's one of the things we're doing right now is being informed about something that is very very troubling uh talking with maria sumnick she is the former new well she was the new york city cyber command urban technology architect And John Spence, who is the Colorado director of the, you said now it's Homeland Security and EMP.
SPEAKER 06 :
Task Force on National and Homeland Security. It's a non-profit organization. Okay.
SPEAKER 09 :
Doing such important work. John, I'm going to go to you first, coming in from our listeners. How can we remedy this? Certainly, reaching out to our elected representatives is a place to start, but there doesn't seem to be the political will to do anything about this, John Spence.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, I think the people need to get a hold of all their congresspeople and let them know about their concerns and how important it is because they're the only ones that can change things. Now, President Trump, he's well aware of a lot of these things. Our former director, Peter Pry, briefed him on the EMP threat, and he had some executive orders, some of which Biden rescinded, but he had one on supply issues. on the supply chain and Biden didn't continue that one at least, but we need to do more and more to, uh, secure this so we can secure our critical infrastructure.
SPEAKER 09 :
So Maria, if, um, Trump is aware of this, uh, it seems like this is so embedded. Where do we. Yeah.
SPEAKER 08 :
Um, he, I believe was briefed about four, four years ago. So he probably needs a, um, a refresher where things are right now. So hopefully his administration will reach out, not so much to the utilities or the operators, but to experts like John Spence and some other experts, EMP task force. But there are things we can call our senators. I don't like to say don'ts. You know, the sky is falling without actually bringing things that people can actually do and make suggestions so they're not just calling, what are you doing? So call your – call. And it doesn't matter which side of the aisle you're on, what you – you are all going to get affected by this. So everyone should be calling their representatives. And here's a couple things. So at the – There are agencies there that can examine the grid equipment that was purchased overseas for any malicious hardware that could be accessed remotely by our adversaries. Request your congressman to put bills forward that require this. Identify any immediate hardening of critical locations. And actually, people have already done this, but nothing has been done. So there are plans in place that at least hardening the electrical grid that is next to our military bases. This is the most troubling of all this is every military base on American soil is is actually connected to our public grid. And that's how they get their power. And if the power goes out, they have maybe, John, correct me if I'm wrong, about 48 hours of backup power. So that needs to be resolved. And our military bases need to have their own independent source of power from the public grid, from privately owned utilities. Also, order the use of endpoint security on our grid SCADA system. SCADA, these are the networks that control all the bells and all the valves, all the controls in a, you know, without digging too deep into it, in a grid system or a water system, any industrial system. Many of these SCADA systems control systems do not have any endpoints at all. And so these are things that can be done. And Congress, I mean, if they can send billions, I believe we're well over 600, is it billion dollars to Ukraine? Can you imagine what could have been done if that money would have gone towards doing these, even these three things? So, I mean, that's just to start. And then from a physical security perspective, you know, to attach National Guards on rotation to the most critical location on the grid and provide 24-hour protection. Most grid substations, I mean, we drive by them all day. We don't even notice them. They just have a chain link fence around them. That is it. That's the only protection that they have. So they're very vulnerable. And they can take out large groups. So things can be done.
SPEAKER 09 :
But I feel like John spends like we are in such a vulnerable position. And the fact is, is the Biden administration now is admitting that they knew about this well over a year ago, probably if not before. But I'm thinking this is just just dumb that I don't know what else to say that we would let us get into this position. And I'm thinking, where are the where's the the the boards of these utilities? Where are the board members there? Where is the management of these utilities? Why are they not out there saying? They could certainly be putting pressure on Congress to try to do things to get this shored up. Why has this not happened, John Spence?
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, I can't say totally what's happened. I don't know what the utilities have actually done. tried to do. Certainly, it appears that they could do more. One of the things I wanted to mention to the readers, they give them a good understanding, I think, of the problem with the grid, because electricity powers everything. There's a movie, Grid Down, Power Up, and you can Google Grid Down, Power Up to get to the movie. The trailer is done by Dennis Quaid, and it's really well done. Essentially, what this does is It says that the public risks from shutting down completely an orchestrated physical attack, electromagnetic pulse attack, cyber attack, magnetic disturbance could shut down our electric grid for as long as one calendar year or longer. So think about how you would survive if that was to happen. And our electric utilities haven't implemented sufficient precautions to protect our grid yet. And people are not yet aware of all the dangers, but this is an extremely good movie that gets into all the aspects of the problems with the electric grid, which would really help everybody. It has a link in there to get to your congressional people to voice your concern about it.
SPEAKER 09 :
Okay. They might get something done, Maria, because it's basically a flip of the switch. This could happen between now and the inauguration, right? I mean, we're in tremendous danger.
SPEAKER 08 :
We are, especially with a cold front coming through, I believe, Friday, Saturday, Sunday. And I don't know if you know that. I watch the weather all the time because it does affect all kinds of systems and And that would be an opportune time, right? Think of, think of, you know, military strategy and, and the adversary does use that. So preparation, prepare your home, uh, have, you know, I know it sounds, uh, rather like a large ass, but have at least three months of water for your family, your pets, um, and food, um, ways to heat your home, especially in areas where there's going to be sub-zero temperatures. And we saw that in Texas a few years ago. I mean, Texas had sub-zero. They were not prepared at all. And I'm going to throw this under, I'm going to throw them under the bus, but the green energy initiatives will never work. Solar will never work. wind will never work. And we saw that in Texas. We saw that when there's a huge, big freeze, that, um, those types of energy systems providing energy, reliable, continuous energy during something like a, uh, severe, uh, a freeze, uh, they're unreliable. And, and, um, I know the administrations and the United Nations, the World Economic Forum, all these organizations are pushing for green energy. Green energy is not the solution at all. In fact, it will make us more vulnerable than ever before.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, this is super, super sobering. One of our listeners, Dave, said this. He said the discussion of these grid vulnerabilities is why there are so many people that are prepping out there. And it just makes sense to even, I was in South California and we talked about, I think that Brad Beck called them bug out bags to have something ready. If you need to move quickly, have your gas tanks ready. full, although if the grid goes down, our vehicles are vulnerable as well because they have electric systems, right, Maria?
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, yes. Unless you have a really old automobile, you know, back when you had a carburetor and distributor, what is that, around 1985 or so, those should be okay. And not all automobiles will necessarily... be vulnerable. And it depends on a lot of things like the intensity and location of the EMP and so forth. Some cars may continue to work. And, you know, with the intermittent power caused by this renewable energy, you know, there's more and more blackouts. People that have solar with battery backup on their phone, you know, are somewhat protected from that. And the other thing is there's companies out there that make solar systems that that have been tested to exceed military EMP standards. So if you're going to buy a solar, you may as well get one of those systems for about the same amount of money, most likely, and really be protected. But here's the thing. You know, if there is a long-term power outage, it's very likely to chaos going on. And, you know, if you're in a location, a big city or something like that, be careful. You know, it's going to be hard to have law and order because, you know, all the police and the military people, they're going to go home to to protect their own family. So, you know, you know. it's going to be a real problem being in a highly populated area.
SPEAKER 09 :
Okay, just about out of time. So somehow writing my congressperson is not very comforting to me right now, Marie.
SPEAKER 08 :
I know.
SPEAKER 09 :
I've been to Washington, I've been to Hill, and I see just a lot of different – people that are bent on just getting reelected. And I guess we as the American people, I don't know.
SPEAKER 06 :
I don't know what to say. His administration is probably the biggest thing right now, getting through to President Trump, because as President of the United States, he could do a lot more. He can do a lot more. And so I would see that as our biggest hope right now in regards to that.
SPEAKER 09 :
Okay. And, gosh, I sure feel like we are very vulnerable right now, particularly from now until the inauguration, Maria.
SPEAKER 08 :
I agree. I agree. And there's one of the task force members, you know, he has an excellent book. And I recommend it because if something does happen, what's really going to matter is your mental preparedness, right? along with your spiritual preparedness. But he's got a really good book that's – his name is John Hollerman, and it's Experimental Psychology and Survival Emergency Preparedness. So this – it kind of walks you through the different phases of long-term – not having what you're used to having, you know, psychologically what that does to you and to your family members, to the people around your neighbors. So, um, that's, that's the part that people, I think, you know, they, they buy all this stuff and it's okay. I'm good here with my style. You really, it, this, this is really about what's going to happen mentally in, and, um, And people really – that's where people are falling short. You need to prepare psychologically, mentally, spiritually for something like this. And the only thing I have left is we have major disasters going on right now, and one seems to have disappeared into the – you know, uh, into the, the, the back books of history, but what happened in North Carolina and Eastern Tennessee, these people, um, and there's thousands of them are without anything. Um, and they, their communities got wiped out, you know, so what do you do with disasters like this? Now we have the LA fires. So, um, This is – you've got to really take care of yourself mentally because that's the only thing that's going to get you through. Okay.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, John – If you go to our website, emptaskforce.us, it shows these books, okay? Okay. The ones that Maria talked about, and there's a new one we did on catastrophe now. And it shows a lot of sources that you can go to to learn more about this and to – protect your, you can learn about how better to protect your family.
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Welcome back to the Kim Munson Show. Check out our website. That's kimmunson.com. Do check out the website for the USMC Memorial Foundation. Make sure that you make that, put that on your list of entity to support this year. It's important that we remember and honor those that have given their lives, have been willing to give their lives for our freedom. And I got us jammed up on time, so I apologize. This did come in on the text line. It says, our hope and trust is in God. People's hearts need to be transformed. And then also this came in, bugging out should always be a last resort. When you bug out, you're leaving everything. You must make decisions you need to bring with you. It's much easier to stay put if you can. And about a lot of different things, and I know Gammy is on the line. She's got some. Gammy, welcome.
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Good morning. And before I start, I'm going to send out a special thank you to Action Anne, Trevor Loudon, and Katie Hobbs, because for two and a half years, they've been screaming about the China connections. And remember when we were talking all the dimming Dane Wigington and all these other geoengineering events? I want to tie this together, connect the dots to everything you said today. My fingers are sore from taking notes. I'm serious. The Cities 40 UN project is about smart cities that tie into the socialist, communist, small city controlled population. Well, Los Angeles bought into the smart city 28th and they have the Olympics 28th. And isn't it interesting that all the places being burned up are going to be able to be used for the new smart city and Olympic in L.A.? You don't think that these are just incidences. And then you go to North Carolina. Kamala Harris's husband owns one of the lithium companies. Listen. This is nationally and internationally connected to the World Economic Forum and the U.N. and its agenda 2030 to get rid of like two thirds of the people. And there are 30 wild, you know, massive parts of the planet. This is all connect the dots. And look, Biden is complicit with China. He's complicit with Ukraine. And they have over 46 bio labs for geoengineering, bio weapons and genetics. Everywhere you look, it all connects to land. How many of our congresspeople have dual citizenship with Israel to boot? There's too much going on for it to be a coincidence. Ohio, bridges, you know.
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So what should we do about this, Gammy? Because it is pretty overwhelming.
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Agreed. And I joke about doing training, whether it's range or self-defense, etc., you know, or like you said, bug out bags, food preparation. But we can't just go to the specific legislators that don't listen to us. We have to put the light on them, shed light on them and all these institutions, because basically the elites, the Inter-Minority Fund, they're controlling us on every step. And we as locally is what I'm trying to say. We have to get our local representatives and people in power to buy into the fact that local communities need to have some power and some backing.
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Right. And right. And I want to get to have a discussion of this as well. We're just about out of time. But one of our listeners sent this over on Smart Cities Connect and had a list of the 2023 participating cities. And when we look at this, there's a lot of different cities in Colorado that on this list. And I'm just going to very quickly run down this and then we're going to have to have another discussion. But city of Colorado Springs. City of Denver, Aurora. Okay, let's see. Next, Fort Collins, Adams County, Arapahoe County, Chaffee County, Broomfield, Brighton, Canyon City, Castle Pines, Centennial, Okay, let's see. Fort Lupton. Okay. Greeley. Grand Junction. Why is it that Colorado has such a presence here? Lone Tree. Longmont. So Jefferson County. And we have quite a showing here from Colorado. So we're going to discuss that because GAMI is right. We need to address this at the local level. And we're working on that. There is a lot to do, but we need to be engaged in our local governments and be paying attention to what's going on. So we'll continue this discussion. Our quote for the end of the show, I went to Maggie Thatcher. And I guess that we can all, so many of you said, hey, I'd never heard this quote and I love it. But Maggie Thatcher said this. She says, when I'm out of politics, I'm going to run a business and it'll be called Rent-A-Spine. So my friends today, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you. God bless America. We'll talk tomorrow.
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And I don't want no one to cry. But if I don't survive, I was born.
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In this episode, the conversation transitions from the heartbreak of a missed football game to the subtleties of streaming culture. The discussion unveils a blend of nostalgia and modernity, dissecting the quiet beauty of a show’s opening theme and the convenience of skipping recaps and intros. Uncover how political interference is colorfully criticized amidst the chaos of La La Land's wildfires, and take a look at the political motivations hiding behind crisis management. A humorous and insightful dialogue offering a peek into the dynamic world of TV fandom and political storytelling.
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Mike Gallagher. Every day, Mike visits with Mark Davis, morning host on 660 AM, The Answer in Dallas. Here's today's Eminem experience.
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Look, we got 53 things going. I need to know one thing from you right now. Did you finish the season? Don't say a word.
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You didn't. Did you go to bed? Well, no, I had to go over to the Tampa Bay game and watch the Washington Redskins, because I refused to call them whatever name they wanted to use, beat the Tampa Bay Bucs with two seconds on the clock. Heartbreaking loss.
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With a field goal that clanged off the upright.
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And then went in anyway. And went through. And went in anyway.
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That's a metaphor. That's a metaphor.
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So anyway, I made it through nine episodes of Landman. I'm up to number 10, the finale. You know what I hate about... It's an hour and a half. Well, that's why I gave up. Because I looked at it and it was an hour and 22 minutes or something. I thought, that's too late for me. So I'm going to watch it tonight. But, you know... Two quick takeaways about Takeaway. This is what I hate about the new world of streaming we're in. I know from your excitement that this final episode is pretty epic. It's remarkable. But I don't want to know anything about it until I watch it, right? Of course. But on Paramount+, on the stream, on the app, or whatever the hell you call it, pardon me, It clearly shows a scene from number 10 as the thumbnail, and I didn't want to see that.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, I'll just put it this way. It doesn't go well for our boy. So Billy Bob is in a compromised position is all I can see. That's the picture they chose to show? How about you don't give us any indication of an evidence?
SPEAKER 02 :
A generic shot of him and his wife and his daughter. Yeah, or something. Don't show him. Not something that reveals what might be.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, clearly something is revealed in that thumbnail, which I didn't want to have it revealed. Oh, dude. And number two, real quick. I know you talked to earlier. I was listening to you this morning about Taylor Sheridan. Isn't it interesting? Now, I have fond memories of Yellowstone because when I got sick with COVID over a Christmas two years ago, I binged it like the whole Christmas week by myself alone. The house was all decorated with nobody to come into because here I am with stupid COVID. And so I would wake up and watch Yellowstone episodes all day long. Okay. And I actually kind of loved it. I mean, you know, no drama, no Christmas drama. And I got to see what has become one of my favorite shows. Mm-hmm. Every time I heard the distinctive theme music to start Yellowstone, you get kind of tingles, right? It's like you love a good theme song, right? Have you noticed it is crap for Landman? It's these low, no melody sort of strings. There's nothing to it.
SPEAKER 02 :
And I'm surprised that he would go along with that. Small disclosure. Really, really small disclosure. But first, to the creative point that you make, I don't think I necessarily need a flourishing orchestral thing to begin every show. I do. It may be the opening theme of Landman may be as sparse as the landscape in which it takes place. Well, there's probably some artistic. But here's my thing. Speaking of which, as you're streaming. Isn't there a button skip intro? I haven't listened to the opening credits or the opening theme of a TV show in five years. Skip, skip, skip. Here's a minute and a half I don't need.
SPEAKER 03 :
Skip recap and skip intro. You could also skip the recap.
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Marital debate, marital debate, marital debate. I love the recap. Lisa thinks I'm insane, especially when you're binging and you just finished the previous episode. Well, that's it. I'm just binging. I'm just watching. Previously on Landman.
SPEAKER 01 :
Right, I just saw it.
SPEAKER 02 :
But here's the thing. You know they're not just throwing scenes together willy-nilly. The recap is designed to bring back into focus stuff that you either saw the previous week or 20 minutes ago, as the case may be, because that's probably a connection that they're going to make and carry through in the plot of the episode you're about to see. So she goes, oh, get through this, get through this. Yeah, Lisa's right.
SPEAKER 03 :
Lisa's right. Yeah. She's right, because Lisa and I have an attention span more than a gnat. Evidently, you can't remember five minutes ago.
SPEAKER 02 :
That is true. Totally true.
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But isn't it fascinating how everything is different with the way you watch a series now? You can watch it like that. And, you know, look, I'm a longtime veteran radio guy. I love advertising, frankly, because I know it's baked into the cake. You get to skip past all of that when you're watching it. I was thinking the other day about how many things are different. Receptionists are becoming extinct. There really is, and it's sad.
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Human beings showing up at the front of the office to meet people in your crowded office setting. Back to TV for two seconds. Number one, the ability to binge, I love it. Some I now resent shows that make me wait a week. The Greatness of Shrinking, which is with Jason Segel, Harrison Ford, just finished season two. Here comes Severance back on HBO or Apple TV, excuse me, which is that weird. It's weird. But they're going to make me wait every week, which is like old school. It's like, no, I want to see them all now. No, no, no, no, no.
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Like the Sopranos. The Sopranos was an event for Denise and the kids and I. She would make, it was ridiculous, as if we're Italian, but she'd make baked ziti. And we would, on Sunday nights, we would sit around and watch. And there's that, again, that theme. Woke up this morning. Got myself a good. I mean, you've got to have a theme. West Wing, one of the great classic show opens.
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Sopranos might have been the last time in America. that everybody gathered at the water cooler. Remember water coolers? That everybody gathered the following morning and talked about what they saw the previous night. Isn't that pretty well largely gone in America? It's gone.
SPEAKER 03 :
We don't do that anymore. Look, and you and I on air, we don't want to give things away. You don't know how far along somebody is in a series.
SPEAKER 02 :
I did something the other day where we talked about a show that had been on in like a year and somebody reamed me on the text line. Hey, I haven't seen that yet. It's like, dude.
SPEAKER 03 :
I know. It's been a year.
SPEAKER 02 :
What am I supposed to do?
SPEAKER 03 :
I know. Well, anyway, happy Monday. We'll talk tomorrow about the finale. But then we shouldn't talk too specifically about the finale.
SPEAKER 02 :
No, no, no. Because I'm going to give people, listen, I'll give people whatever they need. But it is just, the show is a masterpiece. Billy Bob is so good. Some of the plot lines about his wife and his daughter, who are fun, fun characters, gets a little silly. Isn't she a dead ringer for Anna Nicole Smith?
SPEAKER 03 :
Yes. Yes. Did you notice that? She looks and even acts just like the late Anna Nicole Smith. And I didn't recognize her name. I looked it up because she's not famous. I mean, she's a working actress, clearly. And it's a great ensemble. The son is great. Ali Larker. Never heard of her. You know, I've never seen her. But she's great. She's wonderful. And the lawyer buddy of his that's the roommate. Poor Nate. Poor Nate. Poor, put upon Nate. In this episode, really poor Nate. Well, no, don't stop. Hush. No, no, no. No, don't tell me they're off. They don't kill Nate, do they? Oh, no, no, no. I don't mean poor Nate, that he's dead. No, no, no. Oh, good, good.
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All right, good.
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La, la, la, la, la, la, la. All right, so anyhow, welcome in.
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You know what? Last thing, last thing, last thing. The greatness, and she's only in for a few, I think she might have more to do in the second season. Demi? The greatness of Demi Moore. I know. How old is she? 50-ish or something. Alexa, how old is Demi Moore?
SPEAKER 03 :
You talk too fast when you said it. You said it too fast. Slow down. They say 62. Yeah, I think she's our age. I think she's in her 60s.
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And I'll tell you what.
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And she looks 39. She looks wonderful.
SPEAKER 02 :
She just won a Golden Globe for this. Did you tell me about the substance? No, I didn't see it. About the movie she's in? Mm-mm. She's great. It's very clever. It's unbelievably gross. It's just too gross.
SPEAKER 03 :
There are plastic surgeries that don't go well. Whatever she does, somebody ought to try to capture that in a bottle because she looks fantastic. She looks great. She is 62, dude. I thought so. See, and you tell me she looks 62. You're not a wrinkle anywhere. She looks fantastic.
SPEAKER 02 :
Now, she can't smile, but she looks good. What was the old Joan Rivers line? When I smile, the garage door opens. I don't even know what that means.
SPEAKER 03 :
All right, so like Texans, I went to South Carolina Friday to catch some snow. Now, there's nothing more obnoxious than a Yankee making fun of Southerners panicking about the snow. I'd say the same thing about Texas. You could expand that. There's nothing worse than somebody from New York telling a Texan, you guys don't handle weather very well. But I will say this. I've never seen so much panic over literally 0.4 tenths of an inch of snow. That's what it wound up getting. It was half an inch. You'd have thought it was the biggest blizzard in the history of South Carolina. Yeah.
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Well, they shut Atlanta. Atlanta got the same storm system, and they shut it down for two or three days. Oh, they shut Greenville down. Shut the whole thing down.
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They shut schools down. They shut everything down. Now, they always go with the caveat, well, there's some ice involved. But look, I thought about the cold weather that all of us are kind of experiencing to one degree or the other. And, of course, realizing it pales in comparison to Los Angeles. And this thing is... Now, Mark... Here's why Trump is so good. Here's what he posted on Truth Social overnight. The fires are still raging in L.A. The incompetent polls have no idea how to put them out. Pauls, I guess. How do you pronounce Pauls? Pauls for politician. Pauls for politician. He writes, thousands of magnificent homes are gone. Many more will soon be lost. There's death all over the place. This is one of the worst catastrophes in the history of our country ever. They just can't put out the fires. What's wrong with them? Mark, since this thing began, I thought, I'm a simple guy. I don't understand meteorology. I get that I don't know wildfires and burns and controlled burns. How the heck do you have a city like Los Angeles completely unprepared for wildfires? And by the way, while we're on the subject, I saw last night on the news, well, there's eight. There have been eight different wildfires that all began at the same time. How does that work, Mark? I don't like to go down conspiracy theory rabbit holes, but something doesn't add up here. No water in the fire hydrant? Well, you know, don't pay attention to that. It's overwhelmed. The system's overwhelmed.
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And anybody who brings that up, like Trump or you or me, Gavin Newsom scolding people over the weekend for politicizing people's suffering. Dude, it's your politics that's exacerbating their suffering.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, let's talk about Gavin Newsom and politicization for just a moment. Have you heard that he was posting on social media, just launched a new site to ensure the public has access to fact-based data? You know what the new site is? What? It's a site that directs people to ActBlue, his political pack. He was caught for scamming his 2.1 million followers, asking them to donate to his political pack because he wants to run for president someday.
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So on the auspice of seeking, of guiding people toward information about the fires and certain civic-minded things, it wound up being a fundraising pitch.
SPEAKER 03 :
It's a fundraising thing. And Elizabeth Warren did the same thing, directing people to Act Blue. Act Blue is the scandal-ridden leftist scam to raise money for leftists like all of them. They're awful people. And this woman calling out Ted Cruz a few years ago for going to Cancun in the ice storm, she declares an emergency in L.A. and gets on a plane and goes to Ghana. Karen Bass. I mean, Karen Bass, this ridiculous. She's awful. I mean, they're all awful. And the fire chief is calling them all out, saying, look, we don't have the resources. They took the resources from us. Yes, indeed. Well, I thought she was fired. Did you see there was a report that she was fired? There was.
SPEAKER 02 :
She was twisting the wind there for about a day, and then all of a sudden she's fired. Well, they had a meeting. Keeping the gig.
SPEAKER 03 :
They had a one-on-one. Karen Bass and the fire chief had a meeting, and boom, all off. Now there's no firing. I mean, it's a nightmare out there. And you see these video images. Mark, we just can't really comprehend it.
SPEAKER 02 :
I absolutely can't. I know I've never been through a hurricane, but I know what one is. I've never had a tornado hit me directly, but I can imagine in my little brain sort of what that's like. This thing of having these mansions, or it doesn't even have to be a mansion. With a big window where the fire is like a mile away, and then three minutes later, it's eating your yard. It's like, what? I mean, is there no technology? Is there not any water-resistant systems? Well, here's what's weird. Okay, technology. Now, this is either the dumbest thing that anybody can say, and some people are saying it. I think Trump said it. Or it's brilliant. Hello, ocean. You're on a coastal city. You're next to the ocean. Isn't there some way, and I don't think fires care if the water is salty, the fire still goes out. Shouldn't there be some massive, some pipe? I don't even know, but it would seem like this is solvable.
SPEAKER 03 :
Years ago. A year ago, I took the show to Kansas after they had a devastating, a whole town. Remember that was a green, I think it was, remember Eric, the town was a Greenberg. We did a broadcast from there. And that's, that's what these images from Florida or from California look like to me. Like the entire miles of cities are completely gone, house after house. And that was what that city was in Greenville, Greenberg. It was unbelievable. Every city. Every block, the whole city was wiped out, and that's what this feels like. And I'm with Trump. I'm sorry. We're going to explore this today. Of course, what a week we're going to have. I mean, we've got the confirmation hearings.
SPEAKER 02 :
Are you ready? The hearings are underway tomorrow. Yep. You buckled in, and then this weekend. Who's going to have the most fireworks? Hegseth? Gabbard? Kash Patel? Oh, yes, yes.
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That one's the one that's going to probably get the popcorn out for cash. Speaking of FBI, did you catch Christopher Wray on 60 Minutes?
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I did. I'm a conservative Republican. And the Chinese are a terrible threat. Well, no kidding, Sherlock. My dog knows the Chinese are a threat.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, at least he didn't sit there, though, and tell the guy, well, you know, white supremacist is the worst terrorist threat. At least he did address China. But, yeah, I suffered through that and watched the 60 Minutes piece. I thought, man, if you hadn't asked any tough questions, I would have slumped over. Absolutely. Reputational Repair, underway in 60 minutes. And then this weekend, Off for D.C. will be there Monday for the inauguration.
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So cool. Can't wait to vicariously experience it through our buddy Mike. I can't wait.
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You got it. All right. Happy Monday. No giveaways. No giveaways. No spoilers. No epics on Landman. No sir. Go Billy Bob. I hope Billy Bob takes out the whole cartel. That's what I'm hoping.
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This episode of America's Veteran Stories dives into the personal narratives of Marine veteran Marty Letellier. Hear about his early life in Iowa, the influence of his adventurous great-great-grandfather, and his harrowing experiences in the Korean War. As parts of a 'forgotten war,' Marty’s story highlights the remarkable resilience and spirit of American soldiers who stood firm in the face of daunting challenges. Perfect for listeners who cherish military history and personal stories of sacrifice and honor.
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world war ii korea vietnam the gulf war afghanistan and her other wars and conflicts america's fighting men and women strapped on their boots and picked up their guns to fight tyranny and stand for liberty we must never forget them Welcome to America's veteran stories with Kim Munson. These stories will touch your heart, inspire you and give you courage. We stand on the shoulders of giants. Here's Kim Munson.
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And welcome to America's Veteran Stories with Kim Munson. Be sure and check out our website. That is AmericasVeteranStories.com. And this show began because of a trip that I took to Normandy, France in 2016 with a group that accompanied four D-Day veterans to Normandy for the 73rd anniversary of the D-Day landings in 1944 and World War II. and returned stateside realizing that each story is important. It needs to be heard. It needs to be broadcast. It needs to be archived. And hence, America's Veterans Stories. I am so excited to have on the line with me Marine veteran Marty Letellier. And he fought in the Korean War. And the Korean War is many times referred to as the Forgotten War. And but it should not be forgotten at all. But it was fought just a few years after World War Two. And Marty Letelier, welcome to the show.
SPEAKER 03 :
OK, thank you.
SPEAKER 10 :
It's great to have you. Let's talk a little bit now. I had the great honor to interview you a few years ago. And so I'm very excited again to interview you because you participated in a very important battle in Korea. In fact, in Marine Corps. It is one of the most famous battles of the Marines. There's, I think, the Battle of Belleau Wood. Of course, there's Iwo Jima. But the Chosin Reservoir is something that all Marines really know as well. So, Marty, it's great to have you here. But let's start at the beginning. Tell us a bit about you. Where did you grow up? What was your childhood like?
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Oh, I... I grew up in Sioux City, Iowa. It's on the Missouri River. And the childhood is a good one, you know. From the Midwest, childhoods are very nice. I'm trying to think now. What would be interesting? Well, it seems like... My great-great-grandfather grew up in Quebec, Canada.
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Okay.
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And right across the river from Quebec City. It's a little village. And he had a very interesting... childhood, and particularly his later life. At about the age of 17 or 18, he went down to New York City, worked there shortly, and then finally he goes down to St. Louis. And that was about 1850. And he went to work with the American Fur Company. He was a trapper. And, hell, he was an Indian fighter, too, really. Wow. And he wrote an autobiography about his adventures up the river, up to Missouri. And he was stationed at Fort Union, which is right on the border of Montana and North Dakota. And very, very interesting autobiography.
SPEAKER 10 :
Can people still get it?
SPEAKER 03 :
Oh, yeah. It's for sale up there at the Union, at Fort Union.
SPEAKER 10 :
Wow. And what's the title?
SPEAKER 03 :
What's the title, Mama? Do you know?
SPEAKER 10 :
I'll get it.
SPEAKER 03 :
She's going to get it.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay. Sounds good.
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And he married a Blackfoot woman.
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Okay.
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And he had a daughter. And by that time, after a few years, he got real tired of that country and dealing with the Indians. And he was getting very tiresome. So he kidnapped the daughter because his wife didn't want her. She was a real Indian. And she wanted her daughter to be raised as an Indian. And so he kidnapped the daughter, went back down the river, and at the junction of the Big Sioux and the Missouri River, he stopped and said, we have a good place to stay. So he and a couple of his friends, French-Canadian friends, kind of homesteaded there. And he set up a fur trading post. Very, very, very interesting. But he was, the name of it is Adventures on the Upper Missouri. That's the name of the book.
SPEAKER 12 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 03 :
Louis Darcey Letelier. That was him.
SPEAKER 12 :
Wow.
SPEAKER 03 :
That's his name. And, oh, it's hair-raising tones of fangs in here. The grizzly bears chasing them into the river. Very, very interesting.
SPEAKER 10 :
It sounds fascinating. Where are we? Okay, well, I asked you about your childhood, and I remember a little bit of the story that you'd mentioned about your great-great-grandfather. So good childhood. What about, though, you were a child during World War II. What do you remember about that, Marty?
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, I had a brother. Well, two brothers. One brother was in the Army. And he was in the Pacific. He won a Bronze Star. And finally, after the war, he came home and he had malaria. And I remember going to the hospital with him and trying to get treated for it. But I think in the later years, that kind of got better.
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Okay.
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So I remember, you know, not too long ago, well, you know, he died about 10 years ago. Okay. But by then, it didn't bother him too much. And the other brother was in Europe, and he pounded a typewriter over there.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 03 :
Towards the end of the war, yeah.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay. Well, all jobs are super important, for sure. Did your brother that was awarded the Bronze Star, did he ever talk about why he received that award?
SPEAKER 03 :
No, he never did say much about it, no.
SPEAKER 10 :
Isn't that interesting? I know. Just really interesting. And now, I wish that I had gotten more stories of many of the people from my family. I didn't really realize just what... what they were holding there. But let's talk about you now, Marty. Okay. So we've gone through World War II, and the Korean War starts. Where were you? How did it end up that you joined the Marines?
SPEAKER 03 :
I was a student at Trinity High School in Sioux City. And I played football, and I had dreams of playing for Notre Dame someday. But the first year there, the first fall, I got hit right on my left thigh. And I had a softball. Huge thing. And we couldn't get rid of it. I went to the YMCA. Nobody knew anything about stuff in those days. And the uniforms were bad. They didn't fit right. Which is why I got hurt. But anyway, so finally I said, you know, this is baloney. I won't be able to play. God knows when I will be able to play. So I kind of thought about my great-grandfather. And I said, well, you know what? He was an adventurer. And I kind of had, you know, when you're young, you think, wow, let's just see the world. So I was going to join the Navy. And my dad said, well, if you're going to do this, then why don't you join the Marines? Because at best, you know, you can't go wrong. So I said, okay. I didn't care. So I joined the Marine Corps then. I was 17 years old.
SPEAKER 12 :
Oh, my gosh.
SPEAKER 03 :
And I started off in Omaha, Nebraska with a physical and took a train there to San Diego and boot camp in San Diego. And then it started, you know.
SPEAKER 10 :
What year was that, Marty?
SPEAKER 1 :
1948. 1948.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay, 1948. World War II is over. The Korean War then starts in 1950. You're in the Marines. Tell us just a little bit about boot camp, though.
SPEAKER 03 :
Boot camp?
SPEAKER 10 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 03 :
That's great fun. At the time, I didn't think it was fun. They treat you pretty bad. That was their philosophy in those days, anyway. That treats you bad. It toughens you up.
SPEAKER 10 :
Do you feel that that happened? Did you feel like you were toughened up for battle, or what do you think?
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, yeah, I'm sure it helped. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 12 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 03 :
But I think they've changed their philosophy a little bit in boot camp. It's tough. And then it was really, oh, God, I tell you, they treated you like dirt. But now I think it's better. But maybe that's good, treat you like dirt, you know, toughen you up.
SPEAKER 10 :
I remember I had been talking to one of a World War II veteran, a Marine, and he said something along the line. His mother said to him, I did my best to teach you discipline, and now the Marines are going to finish it. And I thought that was always a great quote.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, they will, man.
SPEAKER 10 :
So, Marty, those couple of years, so you joined in 1948, the Korean War breaks out in 1950. What did you do during those two kind of peacetime years?
SPEAKER 03 :
I was stationed at Camp Pendleton, California. Oceanside is a little town there on the coast. And right outside the gate is... Camp Pendleton. And so I spent two years, about two years there. And, you know, there was wonderful weather. I kind of liked the weather.
SPEAKER 12 :
Right.
SPEAKER 03 :
And I had a brother, my second brother, who had an administration in Europe. He got out, and I went to school at the University of Southern California. So on weekends, when we had liberty, I would go up and we'd fool around up there with my brother. And we'd walk to the lake. And... He lived in a boarding house just close to the campus. And the back of the boarding house had an area where you could store weights, bar bills. So we got some bar bills, and we went to work on that. We also went to, once in a while, we'd go to Muscle Beach in Santa Monica on the coast.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, it's probably good you had those weights so that you could go to Muscle Beach there, huh?
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, right. If you don't have the weights, you feel a little out of it.
SPEAKER 10 :
Right, right. Yeah. Marty Letelier, we're going to go to break. This is Kim Munson, America's Veterans Stories show. We're talking with Marty Letelier. He is a Korean veteran, Marine veteran. And before we go to break, though, I want to give a shout out to one of my great partners, and that is Kirsch Insurance Group. They are specialists in the Medicare arena, and they work with a lot of different companies so that they can actually help you find the best plan that works for your individual needs. And so be sure and reach out to them. Their website is ikirsch.com. That's ikirsch.com. And we're going to go to break. When we come back, we'll continue the conversation with Marty Letelier.
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And welcome back to America's Veterans Stories with Kim Munson. Be sure and check out the website. That is AmericasVeteransStories.com. On the line with me is Marty Letelier, and he is a Korean War veteran, a Marine veteran. And the Korean War is many times referred to as the Forgotten War. And it's per the Eisenhower Library. It says that the Korean War began after five years of simmering tensions on the Korean Peninsula. And it began on June 25th, 1950, when the North Korean People's Army invaded South Korea in a coordinated general attack at several strategic points along the 38th parallel, which is the line dividing communist North Korea from non-communist Republic of Korea. So you're in the Marines. Did you expect that this was going to happen, Marty?
SPEAKER 03 :
That I would end up there?
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, did you think that we were going to be involved in a war in Korea?
SPEAKER 03 :
No, that's too quick after the Second World War.
SPEAKER 10 :
Sure.
SPEAKER 03 :
I figured it was going to be nice, and I just joined the Marines and spent four years and... You know, see California and go swimming up in the ocean. Great fun. But it didn't work out that way. That war started, and that sure messed things up out there.
SPEAKER 10 :
So once the war started, did training change? Did the things that you were working on, your duties, did that change?
SPEAKER 03 :
No, no. Well, it started and we immediately were called up and sent to Korea.
SPEAKER 10 :
So when did you arrive in Korea?
SPEAKER 03 :
Nothing changed. Let's see. I think it was August 2nd of 1950.
SPEAKER 10 :
So you were there really for all of it, weren't you, Marty?
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah. Oh, you bet, boy. The whole bit.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay. So you arrive, and what happens then?
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay. Then I had a map. Let me think. There's an area in South Korea that we called the Pusan Perimeter. This included... Pouson, the big town, Pouson. Now they changed the name to Pouson, I think. They're always doing that, changing names.
SPEAKER 12 :
I know.
SPEAKER 03 :
But anyway, that went up about, oh, I don't know, 23 miles, kind of a little rectangle down there. And... The North Koreans had the whole peninsula except for that little spot right around the town of Pusan. And that's why they shipped it there so quick, because they're just about ready to lose South Korea.
SPEAKER 10 :
So you're saying that the North Koreans had everything on the Korean Peninsula except for this little square.
SPEAKER 03 :
Right, right.
SPEAKER 10 :
And they send you guys in.
SPEAKER 03 :
That's why they got the Marines over there. The Army was there, and they were not having much luck. Well, they weren't trained. They emptied out Japan, where there were... pounding typewriters and chasing those pretty japanese girls and they didn't know anything about fighting uh so the only troops really that were ready at that time were the marines so they got us over there and threw us into the battle
SPEAKER 10 :
So how did you come on to Korea? You didn't have to do an amphibious landing then, did you?
SPEAKER 03 :
No, no. Because they had Busan. They still had Busan. And so the ship landed there.
SPEAKER 10 :
Got it, got it. Okay.
SPEAKER 03 :
And then we went from, like, we'd take trucks. See, the first battle... We took trucks, went to the, let's see, where would we be? The west. I think it would be west, around the west part of that little area that we still had. And so then they threw us into a battle there, and we kicked the hell out of them. And then they shipped us by truck again to another area on the Myriang River. And we did the same thing there. So we saved Korea from the North Koreans with this small bunch of Marines because it was just the 5th Marines.
SPEAKER 1 :
Wow.
SPEAKER 03 :
And we did a good job. Some of the Army officers just raved about us because they couldn't control their troops. They couldn't talk to them. They couldn't make them do anything. First thing they do is turn around and run. You can't blame them, really, because they didn't have any training. They didn't know. They were just kind of criminals, the way they treated the Army. They had to go over there and supposedly stop the invasion by the North Koreans. But how are they going to do it? They don't have anything.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay, Marty, a question then. I've heard, as I've talked to so many veterans, training. What do you think that training is? It's physical? It's mental? It's preparation for battle? Is that what it is?
SPEAKER 03 :
That's right. And it's mainly, it's not physical so much. There's some, you know, but it's mental. It's street decor. Spirit of... the Corps. You go and study the history of the Marine Corps. And in many cohorts, you've got all these Marines, the NCOs, non-commissioned officers, still in the Corps. And they... they knew what they were doing. They'd been, they'd fought the Japanese for a couple, three years. And, uh, and they, you know, that didn't bother them so much, the North Koreans, because they would, you know, they'd yell at the Marines, they went, Marines, you son of a bitches, you're gonna, we're gonna kill you, we're gonna cut your which we're called. But that didn't bother them. And because we didn't bother them, it didn't bother us. The kids, you know, they got 18, I was 19 then. Wow. And, you know, we figured they knew what was going on. And they did, though. They knew how to fight. And, uh, It surprised the North Koreans. They didn't know what the hell happened here.
SPEAKER 12 :
Right, right.
SPEAKER 03 :
Because they had such an easy time, you know, with these poor Army troops. They just didn't know what they were doing. They had poor leadership, and it was terrible.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay. Okay. Well, Marty, we're going to go to break. I'm talking with Marty Letelier. He is a Marine veteran of the Korean War. The Korean War was fought 1950 to 1953, and it began in June, and he was shipped over in August. He was there for all of it. And before we go to break, these shows come to you because I have such great partners. One of those is Castlegate Knife and Tool, family-owned business located right here in Sedalia, Colorado. And whether or not you are looking for a gift for a chef or a sportsman or a collector, Castlegate Knife and Tool is the place for you. And they're adding in all kinds of specialty items as well. So be sure and check out their website. That is Castlegate.com. Castlegate.com. We'll be right back with Marty Letelier.
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SPEAKER 10 :
Welcome back to America's Veteran Stories with Kim Munson. Be sure and check out our website. That is AmericasVeteranStories.com. On the line with me is Marine veteran, Korean War veteran, and that is Marty Letelier. And we were talking about when the Marines arrived in Korea, things changed. The North Koreans realized that we were serious and you were having success. We just talked about the battle at the Marien River. What happens after that, Marty?
SPEAKER 03 :
A couple more battles. Then come, let me think. I think it was in August. Okay. They pull us out. MacArthur has this brilliant idea that we're going to go on the offense and go have a landing further up the coast in Korea and go to Seoul, which is right there, and take that, retake it, and maybe then we can kick North Koreans out of Korea. So...
SPEAKER 10 :
This is not the Inchon Landing, is it?
SPEAKER 03 :
That's it.
SPEAKER 10 :
Is it? Okay.
SPEAKER 03 :
The Inchon Landing, right. And that really caught them. Caught them with their pants down. They didn't know what the hell to do. We weren't supposed to be there. We weren't supposed to land there. And nobody wanted to, except from Christchurch. He had some good ideas. There are other times that I wonder about the guy, but he had good ideas. And then he said, he figured out what hit him back there in the rear end, and they won't know what the hell hit him. They'll go to Korea, I mean to Seoul, and... Kick him out of there and the thing would be over. So that's what happened. We had a hell of a battle going down in the Puzon perimeter down there. And that's when McCarter said, let's go up and have a tiniest landing. at Inchon. So right in the middle of a battle where we were winning, they were pulled out and we boarded ship and went up and made the landing at Inchon.
SPEAKER 10 :
That's pretty aggressive. And I say that not necessarily in a great way to open up another battle when you're involved in this one. Did he do it because he wanted to surprise them, or what do you think, Marty?
SPEAKER 03 :
Oh, yeah. I think so, yeah.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 03 :
He wanted the Marines to survive this time. The seven Marines had landed there. I was with the 5th. So the 7th Rangers landed in the 1st Marine. These were the regiments. So now we had a full division.
SPEAKER 12 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 03 :
Inchon. Before it was just, well, one regiment, but this.
SPEAKER 12 :
Wow, okay.
SPEAKER 10 :
So... So, and I'm looking at this, the Battle of Inchon was in September of 1950. Yeah, okay.
SPEAKER 03 :
That sounds right. Okay. Yeah. And I remember we had bacon and eggs for breakfast. We had to go in on landing craft, but the only time we could go in was later on in the day. The tides were just crazy there.
SPEAKER 12 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 03 :
And the tides were bad. We had to wait until about 5 o'clock to go in. So come 5 o'clock, we boarded the landing craft. It went down the nest, you know. And your rifle's around your neck, and God, it's just... Wow. I hated it. Wow. Wow.
SPEAKER 10 :
And then to get to the landing craft also if the water's rough. I mean, it's not easy to do that.
SPEAKER 03 :
Oh, and that damn, they're going up and down, the landing craft.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 03 :
Right next to the boat, the big boat, Iran. And so you've got to time it. You've got to really jump.
SPEAKER 1 :
Jiminy.
SPEAKER 03 :
The last, the last. I don't know how many feet are involved, quite a few. And, you know, you've got this rifle around your neck, and it's just miserable. And finally, anyway, it worked out okay, but not much fun. But anyway, so we did a rendezvous. You go around in circles and tell you all the landing craft, are down and going and running. And then you peel off and you head for shore. And we went to hit the shore. And it's not like in the Second World War where it was a sandy beach. This was a, they had a wall. It was a stone wall. I suppose this was because of the tides. But anyway, there was a stone wall and we rammed into that and we had homemade ladders and we threw those up against the wall and then we climbed the ladder and finally we were on the beach.
SPEAKER 10 :
Was that pretty fortified by the North Koreans, or did MacArthur choose that because there was that wall and that you wouldn't be expected? What do you think?
SPEAKER 03 :
Exactly right. Okay. The North Koreans said nobody's dumb enough.
SPEAKER 10 :
Except the Americans.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, right. So we landed, and that's where the first Marine to get the Medal of Honor was there. This was, what the heck was his name? It was a Spanish.
SPEAKER 10 :
Martinez.
SPEAKER 03 :
Was that it?
SPEAKER 10 :
I think so. I want to say, John, because I interviewed his cousin. Okay. I'll take a look at that while you continue on, so tell us what happened.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay. So he was there, and he was a first or second lieutenant, and he was teaching. charged up there with these troops. And there was an enemy, North Korean, or maybe it was still South Korean. But anyway, they had a machine gun nest there. And so he ran up and pulled out a hand grenade And just as he was throwing it, they shot him in the chest.
SPEAKER 12 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 10 :
And I found it. This one is Baldomero Lopez.
SPEAKER 03 :
That's it. Yep. And that, of course, made him drop the hand grenade. And so his troops were right around him there. So he just rolled over and... Made on top of that.
SPEAKER 10 :
Wow. And he saved all their lives.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah. Wow. And he was... It still makes me up to talk about it.
SPEAKER 10 :
He was just 25 years old. Amazing. Truly amazing.
SPEAKER 03 :
That was what he was, 25?
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, it says he was born in 1925. Of course, he died in 1950. Yeah. Wow. But anyway...
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, he was some guy. Yeah. You know, yeah.
SPEAKER 10 :
And, Marty, did you witness this?
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, you bet.
SPEAKER 10 :
Oh, my gosh.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah. Wow. I was a different country. They were all bunched together.
SPEAKER 10 :
Sure. Okay. Okay. So tell us, here, I'm losing track of time. I'm getting so interested in this. I need to make sure that I, because we want to get to the Battle of the Chosin Reservoir. We've got a couple of minutes left. What else do you want to tell us about Inchon?
SPEAKER 03 :
That's from there we went up to retake Seoul. North Koreans, when they started the war, Took Sewell right away. And I was very good. The battle was good. It was okay.
SPEAKER 10 :
Was that battle, was it like door-to-door kind of a battle, or what was that like?
SPEAKER 03 :
Oh, yeah, the street. Yeah, you're in Sewell, and I got a book that said, with all kinds of pictures. I mean, here, the book, too. Of course, we're a correspondent. And then he took a little magazine. Anyway, he took a bunch of pictures and all that stuff.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay, okay. Taken Seoul, then taken that, and you've really fought your way up. Now, do we now have all of the territory? Is there still North Koreans in that area as well?
SPEAKER 03 :
There may be some, but they're done. They're surrendering it. They're hiding in the hills. For all intents and purposes, they're done.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay. So for that little piece of real estate, which was the Pusan perimeter, you pushed the North Koreans back. And let's stop there. We're going to go to break. I'm talking with Marty Letelier. He is a Korean War veteran, a Marine veteran. And before we do that, though, these stories come to you because I have great partners. And one of my great partners is Hooters Restaurants. They have five locations, and that is Loveland, Aurora, Westminster, Lone Tree, and Colorado Springs. They have all kinds of specials. Football kids eat free on Saturdays. Be sure and check that out on my website, which is Kim Munson, M-O-N. And we're going to go to break. When we come back, we'll continue the conversation with Marty Letelier.
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From the mountains to the prairie
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to America's Veteran Stories with Kim Munson. Check out our website. That is AmericasVeteranStories.com. I have on the line with me Marty Letelier. He is a Marine War veteran. And Marty, when we stopped from the last segment, the Marines have taken Seoul. What happened to that?
SPEAKER 03 :
We're going to go by boat around the peninsula to the other side of Korea. And
SPEAKER 1 :
Bob Hope was there. He beat us to it. He beat us to it.
SPEAKER 03 :
And he was there with his, you know, all of his cohorts. But anyway, then we go up toward the reservoir there. Because the reservoir is the inside the country up, you know, I don't know how far from the coast, not too far, 23 miles. So then we head up the reservoir and we stop short of the reservoir and the first Marine there and digs in there. And then we, fifth and seventh Marines, go up another 23 miles to Hagaroo, which is at the bottom of the reservoir, the bottom part of it. And then we did the fun stretch.
SPEAKER 10 :
What was the purpose of sending you guys?
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, they thought we were going to go all the way to the Yalu River and The war was over.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay, got it. And you'd be home by Christmas. Yes.
SPEAKER 03 :
We thought we would. But anyway, we go to Haglery. And then it's getting colder and colder in the center here now. Before that, it was pretty nice in the fall weather, you know. Apples were on the trees, and it was pretty nice, really.
SPEAKER 10 :
But this is November now, right?
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, right.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 03 :
But now it's getting cold. So we... Oh, my God.
SPEAKER 10 :
And the dates on that was November to December 13, 1950 is when the battle was fought. And, yes, it was getting very cold.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, right. And then, you know, the soldier's worst enemy, other than the enemy you're fighting. Okay. And that, I think I got within eight of Korea, and I got... Okay.
SPEAKER 12 :
It's terrible.
SPEAKER 03 :
It's terrible. And you're always sick. It's just terrible. So we had that. And so I trucked toward Udine, another little village. And we're in an old beach. And I'm in agony. North Koreans, Chinese, now the Chinese hit it. We had used red tracers. You know what I'm talking about?
SPEAKER 10 :
I do.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 10 :
But maybe tell us what they are.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, that's part of the cartridge. Maybe every third or fourth one. And if you fire it, you can see where it's going. And the Chinese used green ones, and we used red. Okay.
SPEAKER 10 :
Did I jump in on this?
SPEAKER 03 :
Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 03 :
They were, that started, boy, I tell you, I always, I say to this day, an article in a medical journal on her dysentery. Because I, like, tracers started going, things were rattling, going off.
SPEAKER 10 :
Oh. Yeah. Boy, that'll do it, huh?
SPEAKER 03 :
You bet it'll do it, boy. Stayed there about, oh, not just a few days. And Thanksgiving, Thanksgiving dinner there. And we were trucked over the other side of the reservoir to U-Damn-E there. When they would hit us, it started, and they would, the first battle there, it was dark. It was just as thin as a foxhole because it's frozen.
SPEAKER 10 :
Right. The temperatures got as cold as negative 36.
SPEAKER 03 :
And later on, we got to 40, Roy. Oh, my gosh, 40 below. We had good reds and big parkas. I can't complain about that. The shoes were lousy. I got frostbite all these years. I'm getting good money every month with frostbite.
SPEAKER 10 :
And you're 91?
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, I'll be 91 in March.
SPEAKER 12 :
Okay, okay.
SPEAKER 03 :
But that's you damn knee. And they would... The Chinese war, they come by the hundreds. And that's how they always, to that time, win against the troops, the Army troops, because it scared them. I'm scared, too. But we had all these NCOs who had been through Iwo Jima and all those things, Okinawa. They said, because, you know, the Chinese would yell, hey, you dirty son of a bitch, we're going to cut you to pieces. We're going to kill you. And they would just yell back at them, come and get us. Come on. And... Then we'd just shoot them by the hundreds. It was slaughter. Then the Chinese, that's really the first time the Chinese got acquainted with the Marines. They couldn't figure out, God, what are we going to do? These are Marines.
SPEAKER 10 :
But you guys were really pretty much... Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER 03 :
Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER 10 :
So how did you get out of there?
SPEAKER 03 :
Well... We had a... We've got... It's a division... And we've got a lot of equipment. So we've got trucks and tanks and stuff like that. So we just bulldozed our way through on the road to Hagaroo. So that's where we headed for, Hagaroo. That's where the commanding general had his headquarters. So that was the start of the withdrawal. It's a miserable existence, I'll tell you. Everybody's dying. Well, all the Marines are dying. In the morning, you take the bodies of your friends, your Marines, who died at night. And you throw them in a pile, and that's it. So we just kept going. So we got back to Hagaroo. And then our feet were in bad shape, you know.
SPEAKER 12 :
Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER 03 :
They had frostbite. It's that simple.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 03 :
And so we'd line up. When we got back to Agarwood, and the corpsmen would look at our feet, and if they were bad enough, it could be because they had bulldozed a kind of a landing strip there. And that plane's good land. And so if you're bad enough, they put you on the plane and ship you off to Japan.
SPEAKER 10 :
So what happened for you after that, Marty?
SPEAKER 03 :
I stuck with them all the way until we got to the coast. And when we got to the coast, we had landing craft, and that picked us up and took us out to the bigger ships. And we were going to go back south. And I remember as the landing had reached, As we got to the big ship that was going to take us back to the South, one of the sailors said, where's the rest of your company? Because, you know, we lost so many men. And... Somebody piped up one of the Marines and said, this is it. There ain't no more. This is all that's left. Because we had about 50, 60 guys. There should have been 213. Wow. And poor sailors, they looked at their mouths, but they treated us real well.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay, Marty Letelier, we're basically out of time. How would you like to wrap this up for our listeners?
SPEAKER 03 :
Oh, I don't know. It's going to happen again, I'm sure. Because during this time, you're going to be a part of the Russians. Oh. I don't know, the world's crazy. Why in the hell are you killing each other? It doesn't make any sense.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, that is for sure. And, Marty, I am so appreciative of my freedom and for men like you who have gone through really hell to make sure that we have our freedom. And I seriously mean it when I say that we stand on the shoulders of giants. So, Marty Letelier, thank you so much for doing this interview. I really appreciate it.
SPEAKER 03 :
Oh, you're welcome.
SPEAKER 10 :
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If you are in Christ, you have accepted the Lord Jesus Christ as your Savior, and you are a new racial species called a Christian (2 Cor 5:17). We all have Adam’s genetically formed sin nature in our bodies and as a result, we are spiritually dead. This is why we need to be born again to have a new life in Christ. “God is a Spirit and they that worship Him must worship Him in Spirit and in truth” (John 4:24). We worship God through the filling of the Holy Spirit and learning and applying the truth of the Word of God. By changing the way we think from a human viewpoint to a divine viewpoint and by acquiring divine wisdom we can replicate the life of Christ and re-present Him to our generation. “Take My yoke upon you and learn of Me. My yoke is easy and My burden is light” (Matt 11:29-30).
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Here he comes, AGAIN. And for the last time. Four more and no more. Trump will do everything possible to make his mark, leave his legacy, and do what’s right for America.
Conservatives and Christians are, or should be, gratified, thankful that Trump prevailed over Harris, for there is a far better chance that the real America, the true America, under sabotage in so many ways by the Biden administration, will be once again revived, born again. MAGA will be the lodestar of the Trump administration for he has promised to:
MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN.
May it be so. Don’t you agree?
We will also get to know JD Vance. In the first Trump administration, Vice President Pence was of little influence or importance. It is perhaps possible that Vance will play a more active role, have more responsibilities, and especially in the last two years of the Trump administration, be more visible as a potential republican candidate for President in 2028.
Many do not like Donald Trump personally, even many who voted for him. He is indeed a polarizing personality. But he was in so many ways the very best candidate for President, and perhaps Americans, and especially conservatives and Christians learned that they and we all vote for a president and a politician, not the personality of a pastor. There is none who take that office who have ever been morally perfect but the real question in terms of morality and character is whether or not as President, that candidate will honor the promises and vows made in seeking election and otherwise be a respectful, forthright and strong president of WE THE PEOPLE. May it be so, don’t you agree?
Many believe that Donald Trump will be more mature in the second four years. Trump they feel will have no reason to make enemies, confront, or criticize. Most believe that his decisions will be more rational, thought out, mature, and made with the advice and consultation of people expert in the field. May it be so.
Trump has promised to do away with the swamp. He has said he never realized how deep, pervasive, and all entwined (murky to the eye) the swamp was, and consequently, did not finish the job. This time around, so he says, he will. May it be so, don’t you agree?
That includes doing away with certain of the agencies which control so much, like the DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION (DOE). That is a woke, progressive, liberal organization-agency and America will be better without it. Trump also indicated he would move agencies out of Washington. Decentralize much so as to control the unregulated power of so many. He stands openly against woke, DEI (Diversity, Equity, Inclusion) and the radical, even anti-American aspects of the Federal Government will be done away with. May it be so.
Trump has vowed he will make things happen, and where necessary, he will issue EXECUTIVE ORDERS which will in fact make things happen. Because of the inaction of congress in so many ways, the orders of the executive have become a political way of life. It remains to be seen how aggressive Trump will be.
He has promised to stabilize the Middle East. Unlike Biden, Trump will be a strong supporter of Israel. Trump will not authorize or enforce the treaty-agreement with Iran. He will stand up to North Korea, and Russia. And most especially, Trump knows the threat of China and he has promised, with tariffs, military action where necessary, as in the Chinese promise to take over Taiwan, curtail the influence and threat of China. May it be so, don’t you agree?
Trump has promised to strengthen the military. That should start with the Navy, with submarines, nuclear warfare capability and protection, a reprioritizing of military purposes and the strengthening of American defenses. May it be so.
And the financial. Trump has promised to deal with inflation, and no new taxes, unlike Biden and the Democrats, to control the interest rates, to work on reducing the American debt, something he did not do in his first term. Now comes the DEPARTMENT OF GOVERNMENT EFFICIENCY (DOGE) headed by Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy. If these two men are allowed to do their job, they will be able to eliminate so much waste in spending and how wonderful that would be for America. May the actions of DOGE be real and for the benefit of our beloved America.
Trump will undoubtedly appoint one or more new justices of the Supreme Court. May he have the wisdom to put the very right people in such a critical position, with so much authority over WE THE PEOPLE. His first appointments were good for America and may it be so, should he have the additional opportunity.
Trump brings hope, hope for change, change back, hope for making America great again. It is our duty as American citizens and Christians to pray for Donald Trump. To pray that with the incredible problems and opportunities which his administration will face, he will be guided by divine wisdom and do what is right for WE THE PEOPLE. We should pray that Trump will reestablish our love and respect for our constitution, and rule of law, which especially includes protecting our borders, dealing with illegal immigration and making certain that American citizens are protected, that our police are respected, and that we may, as the Apostle Paul has admonished us, pray for our President and live peaceful lives. May it be so.
Trump comes January 20. May that coming be the beginning of a new, revived, and born-again America. May it be so.
Christ came to deliver you from the penalty and the power of sin in your life. Sin is anything contrary to God’s character or acting independently of Him and His provisions. Sin can be something you think, say or do. It’s not a sin to be tempted. There is no such thing as sinless perfection. “If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us” (1 John 1:8-10). If you reject God’s Word and His will and stay in carnality, expect God’s discipline. “He that doeth wrong shall receive for the wrong which he’s done and there is no respecter of persons” (1 John 1:8-10).
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Three Letter Word Called Sin
Transcript of FLOT Line Episode 635 aired on October 29, 2017
Good morning and welcome to The FLOT Line. I'm your host Rick Hughes and for the next few
minutes, please stay with me. The FLOT Line is designed to remind you of Biblical truths and
introduce you to a different way of studying, an in-depth way of learning God's Word. It's all
done with no manipulation, no solicitation, simply 30 minutes of education, some motivation,
some inspiration. My job is to verify and simply identify God's plan for you and hopefully you
will orient and adjust to this plan. The plan starts with the good news that Jesus Christ, the
anointed Son of God, redeemed us out of the slave market of sin. Thus our debt to God has been
paid and we are now free of the penalty of death and the power of sin in our life. When you
receive Christ as your Savior you are in effect accepting the offering that He made on your
behalf, a free gift complements of the grace of God. That's why the Bible says,
“For by grace
are you saved through faith and that not of yourselves, it is a gift of God and not of works lest
any man should boast”
(Ephesians 2:8). Titus 3:5-7 says,
“Not by works of righteousness which
we have done, but according to His mercy He saved us by the washing of regeneration and the
renewing of the Holy Spirit, which He shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Lord that
being justified by His grace we should be made heirs according to the hope of eternal life.”
That's what The FLOT Line is about, giving you the Word of God, not preaching, not yelling, not
jumping up and down, not begging you for money, not trying to sell you something, simply
giving you some information. Today we want to talk about a little three letter word called sin. Sin
is that three letter word none of us like to talk about. Many today don't believe in this word
anymore. It seems that everything that use to be evil has now become good and all that use to be
good is now evil. I think it's because arrogance has a way of doing this. Arrogance has a way of
twisting and distorting and justifying actions to meet our emotional needs.
In God's eyes, let's
get this straight, sin is anything contrary to His character or even acting independently of
Him and His provisions.
God's character is sovereignty and righteousness and justice always
surrounded in love. His motivation for us is always love and His character cannot be
compromised. The justice of God is always the guardian of the righteousness of God. Thus what
the righteousness of God rejects, the justice of God has to judge. The Bible tells us in Romans
3:23 that all of us, me, you, everybody,
“We've all sinned and come short of the glory of God.”
It
didn’t catch God by surprise since He knew all about sin in eternity past. That's because He's
omniscient meaning He's all-knowing and it allows Him to know every sin that would ever be
committed by any member of the human race. He's God. Not all sin is the same. Does God know
everything? Yes. Does God know every sin I would ever commit? Yes. Well, is all sin the same?
The answer is no, it is not all the same,
but fortunately the solution for sin is the same.
We
will get into different sins here in a minute but the solution to any sin is the same. Every sin that
was ever committed by any human being in eternity past or eternity future as long as we’ve been
here, it was all judged by God on the cross where the justice of God sacrificed His own Son to
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satisfy the penalty of sin.
Jesus Christ, the Son of God, accepted the imputation of our sins
because He loved us.
He tells us this in John 3:16,
“God so loved the world that He gave His
only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life.”
That's the operative word, loved, and that's what I never had in my life. As a young man growing
up I didn't think anybody loved me. I never knew my father, never met him. Still to this day I
don't know who he is or was. I knew my mom loved me but she had a hard time raising me, not
that I was a troublemaker, but I was just a teenage boy. I wanted somebody to love me. I never
knew God loved me. Wherever you are right now, let me emphasize this to you. I don't care what
you've done, where you’ve been, who you are, God loves you. He gave His Son for you. You
should thank Him for this because He alone loves you more than your wife, more than your
husband, more than your children. I know you've never seen Him but He loves you and this verse
tells us this. Then listen to John 3:17,
“God sent not His Son into the world to condemn the
world, but that the world through Him might be saved.”
That's why Christ came, to deliver
you from the penalty and the power of sin in your life.
Now the Bible talks about different
types of sin. Let me identify this for you, okay?
The entire human race has imputed sin.
We
were all counted guilty when Adam committed that first sin in the Garden of Eden. Romans 5:12
says,
“Wherefore as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin, and so death has
now passed upon all men, for all have sinned.”
When Adam sinned he received a sin nature and
every child that’s born has a sin nature as a result of Adam. Nobody sat you down and taught you
anger or how to be jealous, these are inherent in your soul. Arrogance is an inherent attitude of
the sin nature. We all have a sin nature. The Bible says in 1 Corinthians 15:22,
“For in Adam all
die, so also in Christ shall all be made alive.”
All die refers to spiritual death.
We are born
physically alive but we are born spiritually dead. Thus the need to be born again, not
physically we can't be born again physically, but the need to be born again spiritually.
Our
human spirit is dead, spiritually dead. When we believe in Jesus Christ and receive Him as our
Savior the Bible says,
“If any man is in Christ, he is a new species. Old things are passed away
and all things become new”
(2 Corinthians 5:17). When we believe in Jesus Christ we are born
again spiritually and that's when the journey begins for you and me. The imputed sin is still there
because we are related to Adam and we also have inherent sin, we inherited the sin nature.
Adam's original sin was imputed to me. I also received the sin nature, Psalm 51:5 tells me this,
“Behold, I was shaped in iniquity and in sin did my mother conceive me.”
By having that sin
nature I’m able to commit personal sins. Some of them I'm aware of, some of these I know are
sin and some are unknown sin. Known sin, things you do that you know are sin and unknown
sin, things you do that you don't realize are sins. Sometimes if I’m listening to sports talk radio
and I enjoy this, keeping up with the football scores this time each year, there's an awful lot of
slander. There's an awful lot of gossip, maligning and criticizing. These are all sins. That's what
sports talk radio shows are all about. You ought to hear the people call in to criticize the coaches,
malign the coaches, run the coaches down, criticize the players, run them down, and the radio
host feeds this emotion. Maybe people don't realize they're sinning when they slander or judge or
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malign another person. The greatest sin ever known to man, what is that one?
The greatest sin
ever known to man is to reject Jesus Christ as your Savior.
John 3:18 says,
“He that believeth
on Him is not condemned but He that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not
believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.”
If you're listening to me today and you've
never accepted Jesus Christ as your Savior, you are already condemned. You don't have to wait
until you die to receive condemnation, you are living condemned and if you do pass away
unfortunately you will wake up in hell. That’s just the way it is because the justice of God cannot
allow you into the presence of God because you haven't been redeemed, you haven’t accepted
Jesus Christ as your Savior, thus you will force the justice of God to condemn you. That's not His
plan. That's not what He wants to do. That's why He sent His Son for you, so you wouldn't have
to go through this. That's why Christ died on the cross. That's why
“He who knew no sin was
made sin for us”
(2 Corinthians 5:21), so you do not ever have to experience hell or the Lake of
Fire. How are we going to defeat sin in our lives? Back up just a minute, before we go any
further let me repeat this point. The greatest sin known to man is rejection of Christ as Savior,
John 3:18, I wasn't sure I gave you this verse, but let me make sure I do.
“He that believeth in
Him is not condemned but He that believeth not is condemned already because he has not
believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.”
Have you personally received Jesus
Christ as your Savior? Have you ever personally told God the Father that you are believing in
Jesus Christ and you are willing to accept Him as your Savior? That’s a point of volitional
decision you must make. At some time in your life you and God must settle this. Is He your
Savior? Have you accepted Him? You don't have to join the church to do it. You don't have to
jump in the river to do it. You just have to pray. The Bible says,
“Whosoever shall call upon the
name of the Lord shall be saved.”
In the privacy of your car, in the privacy of your home, you
can accept Christ as your Savior. You can deal with God yourself and you can ask Him to save
you and He will. He's not a liar, He'll do this. Now, how do we defeat sin in our life? If you're not
a Christian this is not even of interest to you. If you're not a Christian, you've never accepted
Jesus Christ, you're already condemned regardless of what you do. You could live the nicest
lifestyle in the world, you could be the sweetest, purest, most wonderful person, never cheat on
your wife, never cheat on your taxes, never run a red light, never break the speed limit, and still
die and go to hell because you haven’t accepted Christ as your Savior. You see, deliverance is not
based on what you do or don't do. Deliverance is based on what Christ did for you and whether
you believe or don't believe this, whether you accept this or don’t accept this
. If you have
accepted this and you have accepted Christ as your Savior, then how are you suppose to
defeat the sin that comes into your life?
Colossians 3:5-10 tells us.
“Therefore, begin to put to
death the members of your earthly body
[and then we have a list of sins]
immorality, impurity,
passion, evil desires, greed, which amounts to idolatry. For it is on account of these things that
the wrath of God will come and in them you also once walked when you were living in them. But
now you also
[this is the Christian, you put these things aside]
put aside anger and wrath and
malice and slander and abusive speech from your mouth and do not lie to one another since
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you've laid aside the old self with its evil practices, being renewed to a true knowledge according
to the image of the One who created Him.”
Put on the new self. The new self is
“Being renewed
to the true knowledge according to the image of One who created Him.”
That’s you living in the
image of Christ. That’s you becoming Christ-like. Now when the Bible tells you to
“Put to
death”
that's a volitional decision on your part. Colossians 3:5,
“Put to death the members of
your earthly body.”
This doesn't mean kill yourself. That's not what it means. This is imagery
here. This is saying you must put to death the lust of the flesh. In other words, don't let it
continue to control you. Ephesians 4:22 tells us the same thing.
“Put off concerning the former
manner of life that old man which is corrupt according to the deceitful lust.”
How exactly am I
suppose to do this? How am I to put to death my flesh that creates the sins in my life even when I
don't want to do them sometimes? How am I suppose to control him? How am I suppose to put
off this old man which is corrupt? I mean, how do I get rid of him? You will never get rid of him.
As long as you're here you'll always have a sinful nature. You always have the ability to commit
sin in your life but you can control it. How you do it?
Number one, when you know you’ve
sinned use rebound very quickly.
Rebound is problem-solving device #1 in the FLOT line of
your soul. Remember, the FLOT line is made up of 10 unique problem-solving devices given by
God in His Word to sustain you while you're in the devil's world. The very first one is the
problem of sin. How do I handle sin in my life? 1 John 1:9 tells us,
“If we will confess our sin,
then He is faithful and just to forgive us and purify us from all of our wrongdoing.”
Any time we
commit a sin we must go to the Father and admit the sin.
Before I started doing this radio
show today I had silent prayer and I said, “Father, if there's any sin in my life right now show
me” because I don't want to get on the radio and teach a class with known sin in my life. I always
ask God to examine me, to show me my heart. Let me see myself. If there’s sin in your life, and
we’ll deal with the different types of sin, you must confess it, not to the priest but to God because
you are a priest. You are a believer priest. The Bible says this. You don't need to go to someone
else, you can go right to the throne room of God yourself and you can admit your sin to God.
Now, does this guarantee you won't do it again? No. What it does is it gets you back in
fellowship with God. See, when you sin your momentum in your spiritual life is halted. You're
not advancing. You've quenched the Holy Spirit. You’ve grieved the Holy Spirit. You’ve stepped
out of the spiritual life by allowing the flesh to take over. But when you go to the Father and
confess your sin, then you recover your momentum. You get back under the fellowship of God
the Holy Spirit and then you can continue. You know, sometimes to be honest, you may have to
confess your sin 10 to 15 times a day. It depends on the kind of day you're having. The objective
is to grow to where you avoid sin so you don't have to keep confessing sin, to recognize it, know
how to avoid it, and quit doing it. The first way that we get victory over the old man, the first
way we get victory over the flesh is to rebound or confess our sin when we know we've done it.
If we rebound, it says
He is faithful,
He does this every time.
He’s just,
He doesn't compromise
His righteousness to do this.
“He is faithful and just to forgive us and cleanse us from all
unrighteousness.”
The second step is grow.
If you're going to defeat the old man, if you’re
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going to keep him in check and under control,
“Grow in the grace and the knowledge of your
Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ,”
as per 2 Peter 3:18 so that you're not controlled by arrogance or
preoccupation with yourself. You have to know yourself. The arrogant person doesn't see himself
as he really is.
He sees himself as he thinks he is. The Word of God is a mirror, it'll show you
what you really are. So if you can grow in grace and knowledge, it means you submit to the
authority of the pastor. You listen to God's Word taught to you on a consistent basis and you
apply what you learn into your life.
Then the third step is to submit to the filling of the Holy
Spirit.
This is Ephesians 5:18 which actually takes place as soon as you rebound. As soon as you
confess your sin to God, you are filled with the Holy Spirit. You cannot live as a believer in the
devil's world in the energy of the flesh. You can't do it, you won’t ever succeed. You must live
under the filling of the Holy Spirit which is the promise that the Lord Jesus Christ gave you. He
said, “I’m going to go away but I’m going to send a coach,” a
paraclete
is the Greek word, the
comforter.
“I’m going to send Him to you and He will be in you and guide you and lead you into
all truth”
(John 16:13). If you don't allow the Holy Spirit to control your life, then you're never
going to be able to get victory over the flesh. That doesn't even count the world or the devil
because there are three enemies. The sin that I'm talking about right now would be the sin of the
flesh.
There are three areas of sin in your life you have to deal with including mental
attitude sins, Galatians 6:3.
Mental attitude sins, these are sins you can do seated in your chair,
not even opening your mouth or driving down the road honking the horn. Mental attitude sins
include hatred and arrogance. Fear is a mental attitude sin. Worry is a mental attitude sin. These
sins quench the Holy Spirit. They grieve the Holy Spirit. You have to be aware that when you sin
it's not just necessarily overt sins. You can sin in your mind and never open your mouth.
Another
type of sin is called the sin of the tongue and this is when you slander, malign, gossip,
criticize, backbite or vilify someone.
Ephesians 4:30-32 tells you don’t do this. It says you have
to
“Be kind to one another, tenderhearted, forgiving each other even as God in Christ forgave
you.”
You can commit a mental attitude sin, something you think. You can commit a sin of the
tongue, something you say.
You can commit overt sins by something that you do.
It could be a
sexually overt sin such as Romans 1:26-27. You can read this for yourself. You can see what God
mentions there concerning certain sexual sins, or you can read Ephesians 5:3-5 and again you
can see what God says about certain sexual sins. Overt sins are not just sexual sins. It could be
stealing. It could be murder. It could be some sort of overt action where you injure someone or
take someone's property. It could be a lot of different things, but these are sins also. Mental
attitude sins, sins of the tongue, overt sins, and some people even say there are sins of omission
where maybe you know what you're suppose to do and you don't do it. Sometimes you get
behind God or sometimes you get ahead of God because you’re impetuous.
Let’s leave it with
these three categories of sin: what you think, what you say and what you do.
You see, the
more you know about sin, the closer accounts you can keep with God. I would hate to know that
I went through the day and I sinned at 8 o'clock that morning and I didn't realize I sinned and at 9
o'clock that night I wake up and it dawns on me that I committed a sin that morning. Thus I have
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been out of fellowship with God all day. I know, it's impossible to name every sin you do. That's
why the Bible says,
“If we confess our sin, He is faithful and just to forgive us and cleanse us
from all unrighteousness.”
That's even the ones you don't remember. So if you get up at 8 o'clock
in the morning and you get angry at your kids or you get angry at your wife or you get angry at
your husband or you get angry at your boss and you might not say it, but you start thinking some
mean, nasty thoughts on what you would like to do to this person, to kick this person you know
where. Well then you better go to God and admit it to God and He will be faithful and just to
forgive you. He'll even forgive you of some things you forget because you do forget. Once you
start sinning, you start chain sinning, it’s worse than chain smoking. If you start chain sinning,
you’ll sin one right after another. The more you know about sin, the closer account you can keep
with God concerning your sins.
Let me say that temptation is not a sin.
It’s not a sin to be
tempted.
The source of sin is your human arrogance. That's where we use our volition to go
negative to God and do what we want to do. We reject God's Word, we reject His will, and we
say, “I’ve got a better way to do it God, see You later.” That's where all human arrogance starts
and that's the source of sin. That was Satan's source of his sin in heaven when he assumed that he
was as good as God, and he wanted to rule the heavens, take over God's throne.
Now there's no
such thing as sinless perfection. 1 John 1:8-10 tells us this.
“If we say we have no sin, we
deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us.”
I’ve met a couple of people that thought they didn't
commit sin and I made them mad enough to where they were sinning before we got through the
conversation. Until you know what sin actually is for sure, then you don’t even know whether or
not you're really in fellowship, right?
What about discipline for sin? The Bible says in
Colossians 3:25,
“He that doeth wrong shall receive for the wrong which he’s done and there
is no respecter of persons.”
In Hosea 8:7,
“For they have sown to the wind and they shall reap
the whirlwind,”
and that's him talking about national discipline on the Northern Kingdom of
Israel for rejecting God's plan for the nation. The process of discipline is seen in Hebrews
12:6-11.
“Those whom God loves, He chastens. He often scourges us, every son that He receives
and if we endure chastening, God deals with us as with a son. But if you're without chastisement
where everyone has, well you are not really a child, you're not really His son,”
and then it goes
on,
“We’ve had fathers of our flesh that corrected us and we gave them reverence. Shall we not
much more respect God and live.”
Proverbs 15:10 says,
“Correction is grievous to the one that
forsakes the way and he that hates the reproof of God shall die.”
You can check yourself out
too early by not listening to God's discipline, not rebounding, getting under discipline
continuously until you go out under the sin unto death. Divine discipline comes in three
stages: warning discipline, intense discipline and dying discipline.
I don't know where you
are in the process but you might want to look at yourself. You might want to ask God where you
stand in regard to this. You might want to take a real close look at your life. Until next week, I'm
your host Rick Hughes saying thank you for listening to The FLOT Line.
In this special episode, we chat with author Mike Goldstein about his groundbreaking book, The Adventures of Jimmy and Andrew. Designed to tackle the literacy crisis, this captivating story is perfect for both children and adults. Listen as we explore the book's origins, its engaging writing style, and how it serves as a powerful educational tool. Whether you're a parent, educator, or simply a book lover, this episode offers a fresh look at how stories can inspire and educate.
SPEAKER 14 :
It's finally Friday on Rush to Reason with your host, John Rush. So I tell him I'm a pro, Jack. And who do you think they give you? The Dalai Lama himself. So we finish 18, and he's going to sniff me. And I say, hey, Lama, hey, how about a little something, you know, for the effort, you know? And he says, oh, it won't be any money. But when you die, on your deathbed, you will receive total consciousness. So I got that going. And movie reviews with Andy Payne.
SPEAKER 18 :
I think that you got the wrong impression about me. I think in all fairness, I should explain to you exactly what it is that I do.
SPEAKER 17 :
What I do have are a very particular set of skills. Skills I have acquired over a very long career. Skills that make me a nightmare for people like you.
SPEAKER 22 :
What do you want to do tonight?
SPEAKER 14 :
The same thing we do every night, Pinky. Try to take over the world. Stick a fork in me, Jerry. I'm done.
SPEAKER 05 :
Now, here is your host of Rush to Reason, John Rush.
SPEAKER 08 :
All right, welcome. Friday edition, Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Myself, Andy Pate. How's Andy today? Andy's doing well. And yourself, sir? Always good. Thanks for filling in while I was gone. Happy to help. Appreciate it. We have Mike Goldstein with us as well. I've had Mike on before. So, Mike, how are you?
SPEAKER 16 :
I'm fine. How are you guys?
SPEAKER 08 :
How was your holidays?
SPEAKER 16 :
Fine. Great. Happy New Year, by the way. Happy New Year to you.
SPEAKER 08 :
All right, so talk to us about, we interviewed you before, but for those maybe that haven't heard you, talk to us about the adventures of Jimmy and Andrew, which I talk all the time during the week about this, and I said this past week that I gave one of these away to my grandson, who's seven, and Richard's oldest, Andy. And by the time we left and gave it to him, kind of open presence, hung around for a little while, and then left maybe an hour or so later, he was already like a third through. So the point is, it's very interesting, or he wouldn't have kept reading it.
SPEAKER 07 :
It's very hopeful, too. By next week, he'll be teaching Richard.
SPEAKER 08 :
Probably. Yes, absolutely.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 08 :
We're hopeful. But the point is, it's an interesting book.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, thank you. And I'm glad your grandson's enjoying it. He loves it. I can't believe it's seven. That's fantastic.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah. It's fantastic. And I know from the interview we had last, you did this to be able to help younger kids especially, but really it's for all people, but for younger kids especially, to be able to read because our literacy rate in the U.S. is like in the tank.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, it's out the bottom. Not too many kids at the age of your grandson are reading books like this. They'd be lucky to read Dick and Jane.
SPEAKER 08 :
Dr. Seuss. You're right. Go ahead, Andy.
SPEAKER 07 :
Mike, it's already a very different kind of writing style to gear it toward children, but how do you structure it to make it more educational to where it actually sparks their interest and sparks their mind, gets them thinking?
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, that's because all the subjects... that are discussed in the book are historically accurate and factually accurate. Every detail in the book is written that way. And so it ties into the story, everything. And so it's very interesting for the kids, but it also teaches them. And the book is... Like I said, kids can read this book. His grandson read it at seven, even though most kids go nine and above. But it's also for anybody, adults. People love the book. If you go to the website and you look at the reviews, of which there's like 300 reviews, a lot of the reviewers will say, well, this is great for my kids, but I liked it and I learned something. And this is not just for kids. They say it over and over.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, I would assume that with a book like that, the amount of research that went into it has got to be many, many times what goes into the normal children's book.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, or almost any book.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 16 :
Good point. Because the whole point is that I wanted it – to tie into the history, but, but so it doesn't, so that everything in the story is accurate too, that it all flows, that everything works. So, so it has to be appropriate.
SPEAKER 08 :
It does. I mean, I've got a seven year old that's living proof that it does. So it most definitely does. Mike, you did a great job. And the other thing that I would tell you, and I said this during the week, So we as, especially conservatives, believe in helping others, partly what we do here on a regular basis. We educate, we teach, we train, and so on. And I talked about even some New Year's resolution type things on Wednesday during health and wellness. And one of those things, Mike, is learn to be kind and help others. That should be everybody's resolution all the time, be kind, help others. So I know there's folks listening that maybe don't have grandkids. Maybe their kids are all grown. but they've got coworkers, they've got neighbors, they've got church kids, they've got kids they know is my point. So where I'm going with this is think about it in that way. So you may not have somebody that you're directly connected to that you're gonna hand the book to, but you could hand it to the parent of one of them that you know and still get that book in their hands is my point.
SPEAKER 16 :
Exactly, exactly. And as far as the person enjoying it, well, one of the things about the book is is you want kids to be – if they're going to read, you want them really to be interested in the story. Engaged. And the story – one thing I can tell you about this book and the other books – is that it's unique. It's not the same story. You're not going to be able to figure things out. It's not like, oh, yeah, same old, same old. You know, like so many things. It's predictable. It's not a Hallmark book. It's not predictable at all. And that's what gets the kids and also adults engaged.
SPEAKER 14 :
Sure.
SPEAKER 16 :
Because the story is very different. It's about, I'll tell you a little bit about it, just the basic. I've mentioned it before for people who haven't listened.
SPEAKER 1 :
Sure.
SPEAKER 16 :
Heard it before. The book is about a nine-year-old boy named Jimmy who's always wanted a dog. He's always desired a dog, wanted a dog his whole life. And finally, when he's nine years old, on his ninth birthday, his parents feel he's old enough to have a dog and take care of it. And they take him to the Humane Society where he's allowed to get a dog. And it turns out that the dog that he gets is telepathic. And he finds out that the dog is immortal, has been walking the earth for over 3,000 years, born in Egypt to a normal canine family, but he's different. And feels that there's something before all that when he's born, but doesn't know what it is. And since he has normal litter mates, he spends the next century walking the earth trying to find clues to his origins or find others of his kind. And it's not until he meets Jimmy at the pound that he begins to discover clues to his elusive origins, which is a theme that goes through all the books.
SPEAKER 08 :
Gotcha. And I should also say, and I think last time you were on, Mike, we talked about this. So for all of you listening, this isn't a small little paperback book like what you would think of a Reader's Digest version. of a children's book. This is a full bore, full size book, full color. I mean, when you put this thing in your hand, which I've got a copy right now, I mean, this is high quality, very well made, full color pictures in it throughout. I mean, Mike, you did a wonderful job building a book that is something that nobody would want to ever throw in the trash. Let's just say it that way.
SPEAKER 16 :
And one of the things about it is, like you were mentioning before, a big concern is children's literacy. And so how do we get kids to get interested? Well, one of the ways is parents reading to their kids. Like I mentioned before, my son, my daughter, they were reading very young. My son was reading at that age, too. But it's because we read to them. And part of the way this book was designed is to engage the kids also in a read-together with their family so they can discuss it. Make it a family affair. Exactly. So the book is put together for that purpose. Yes, we have... electronic copies of the book. But the book was designed for the hard copy. Because it's seven and a half by ten and the full page illustrations are for every chapter. And the reason we did that is because I wanted to give it that graphic novel quality to engage it.
SPEAKER 08 :
For those of you, again, it's hard to describe on air, and Andy, you kind of know what I mean by this, but it's a very nice, well-put-together piece. This is not your average, thin paperback, you know, where the pages are going to tear easily. I mean, it's one of those things where if a young child is reading this, they're not going to tear it up, Mike.
SPEAKER 16 :
No, that's right.
SPEAKER 08 :
That's probably the best way for me to say it, right? It's a very nice piece. And so those of you listening, please order one today. You can do that by going where, Mike?
SPEAKER 16 :
Go to the website, jimmyandandrew.com.
SPEAKER 08 :
And again, even if you don't have kids and you don't have that ability to read directly, hand it to someone that can.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, at the website, you can also go look at a free preview. And we have a four-chapter free preview and print replica that's just gorgeous. Awesome. Now, the one thing you're not going to get is the way that the illustrations appear in the book because that's something very special. Other books have not done it. Publishers would not do it because it's too expensive. Right. It's very expensive. It's very expensive because I did not want the book to be – The illustrations, like most all books, you find them at the beginning of the chapter. Well, then if it's something exciting and you read through it later on, then you're giving a preview of something. And then when you get to the scene, you have to flip back to see the illustration. So why not put the illustration right across the page from the actual scene so the person can see it while they're reading it? Well, publishers don't do that because you end up with extra pages. We ended up with like 17 extra pages.
SPEAKER 08 :
Which is a lot for a publisher, right?
SPEAKER 16 :
It's a lot. What do we do? We put drawings of the two characters that play on those, and it looks beautiful. But you have that, and this is something you can't get on the electronic, because you're going up and down. Here you can actually see it in the book the way it was designed, and here the kid is seeing it while you're reading it and reading. It's a beautiful piece.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, Mike, if I may, really quick here. I think it's also good just to have young people get the experience again of having a book, a real book in their hands. Because what you're talking about, there's such a real problem of literacy in our country today. And I think so much of that is... First of all, because of the disinterestedness and distractedness. Everybody is so distracted and wound up and running so fast. They don't slow down. As a result, they're just not getting the building blocks they need.
SPEAKER 08 :
This will make them do that. Yep. to learn. Absolutely. So again, folks, Adventures of Jimmy and Andrew. It's jimmyandandrew.com. There's a code right now, too. Just put code KLZ in. There's a nice little discount for you if you do that. And as I said, even during the week, you may not have kids in your own home and feel like this is really something that's important to you. But trust me, we all know kids. We all know families that have kids. Buy a few copies and give them away as a gift because really the end goal here is to teach kids how to learn.
SPEAKER 16 :
And if you get two copies, we're giving away a free hat that they can just call in here and they'll send them one from KLZ. We're having one little thing. We're having a little bit of a glitch on our shop page today. So if they call up and the shop page is a little bit messed up, we're getting it corrected. So just call later today and then do it.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, Mike, I always appreciate it very much. I enjoy what you've done here. My grandson does as well, so thank you very much for that. I appreciate it greatly. And Happy New Year and look forward to 2025 with you.
SPEAKER 16 :
Thank you.
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Suck it up, buttercup. Back to Rush to Reason.
SPEAKER 07 :
And welcome back to Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560, John Rush! I haven't been able to say that in a while. No, I know. So I'll say it again. John Rush, together with Andy Pate and John! Are you ready for a movie?
SPEAKER 08 :
It's been a couple weeks since I've had one.
SPEAKER 07 :
It's been a minute, hasn't it?
SPEAKER 08 :
Yes, absolutely I am.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, you're ready to dive right back in. Okay, well, John, here we have another foreign horror film like Oddity. Remember that one, Oddity, I did? Okay, can we find some more magic in The Damned?
SPEAKER 22 :
Like one night, when everyone was in bed, there was a knock at the door.
SPEAKER 19 :
May the Lord protect you from harmful sea creatures and dangerous pirates.
SPEAKER 10 :
Poor bastards. We're not gonna help them.
SPEAKER 19 :
Helping those men will put all of your lives at risk, and I cannot do that.
SPEAKER 17 :
Whatever wreckage can float, we'll stay close to them.
SPEAKER 22 :
I've seen evil trying to get in here.
SPEAKER 23 :
The dead can't break free if you hammer iron nails into their feet.
SPEAKER 22 :
What happened on that ship was a terrible tragedy. He doesn't care. I wouldn't sleep if I were you. A thing like that never stops.
SPEAKER 14 :
It's never too late to ask for forgiveness for what we did.
SPEAKER 22 :
It won't stop until it's taken all of us.
SPEAKER 15 :
Keep it away! Keep it away from me!
SPEAKER 19 :
We should not be here.
SPEAKER 07 :
And we're in, right? We should not be here, Andy. I just want to make sure she was done yelling help me. Okay. Well, John, the setting is the late 1800s in an Icelandic fishing village. Okay, so up in Iceland. The community is nearly all men, led by one woman whose husband recently died and left her the fishing boat. The reason it's virtually all men, they've come up north, left their families to work the season. Right. You work the fishing season. Then they go home, hopefully with money for their families. Well, that woman who's leading them is Eva. She's played by Odessa Young, and she is the de facto leader of the community. She's good at it, too. Giving orders without being power mad. I like that. Well, unfortunately, this is an especially harsh winter. Everywhere is numbingly cold. Boy, you can feel it, too. They make you feel it, too.
SPEAKER 08 :
Climate change didn't... No, no.
SPEAKER 07 :
It didn't fix that.
SPEAKER 08 :
I'm sorry.
SPEAKER 07 :
The fishing is awful, and the men are literally eating the bait to survive. It's gotten that bad. Right. Well, when you're responsible for your group's survival, you can't afford to help others. Okay. So when a nearby boat is going down, you heard this in the preview, a starving crew is divided into whether to save them. Eva makes the call, and they let that crew die.
SPEAKER 10 :
Hmm.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, afterward, they go through the ship looking for supplies, but only to find some brandy and heating oil, virtually no help there. And the six caskets on the beach fill them with guilt. Well, then word spreads through the village of a monster of folklore, the Dragoor. The Dragoor, okay? And some say they've seen it, and this animated corpse feeds on the guilt, and on them. Well, the men are turning on one another, and they're becoming desperate. And after a couple sightings and dwindling numbers, they realize they're being hunted. So they hunt the dragger. Now, can Eva hold them together? Can they survive? Can anyone survive against the damned? And that is the story. What do you think? It sounds pretty weird. Well, yeah. I mean, basically, it's a horror story from back then, right? So it's very raw. Well, what works in The Damned? First of all, Odessa Young is perfect in her last girl role. She may be up for a best actress from this. She's pretty, but not flashy. Commanding, but not forced. She captures all the stress of leadership and terror of supernatural horror. By the way, she demonstrates a lot of what John Rush would teach in leadership. I kind of like that.
SPEAKER 09 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 07 :
And that doesn't mean she makes every right choice. You can't. It's an impossible situation. But she lives with it.
SPEAKER 09 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 07 :
All right. The sheer coldness and hopelessness is well captured by the director. It all feels very raw, very real, very well done. You heard the scene where the other lady, because there's one other woman there, the older lady is telling the story of the dragger.
SPEAKER 09 :
Right.
SPEAKER 07 :
Knock, knock, knock. Right. Great scene. Really well done. Okay. Because she's telling this story to the guys, and she's telling it as kind of a scary story because they enjoy scary stories, but also being kind of real about this. Hey, this is a real threat up here. This is a pretty scary movie. You have undead awakenings. You have cool camera tricks, awful killings, the whole thing that you would expect with a horror movie. The storyline pace is solid for a slow-burning scare flick. It's only 90 minutes, John.
SPEAKER 08 :
I saw that.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, it whips along. This is more of a good study of human weakness than a parade of jump scares. In modern flicks like this, it's almost all jump scares. This is not. There are frightening images and moments, but mainly we're watching people fall apart. And there's a good sort of romance between Eva and one of the men. It's very restrained, and it's very well placed in the movie. Okay, what doesn't work in The Damned? Well... This is kind of important. And just so you know, Rotten Tomatoes, I'll give you, I'm jumping ahead here. They gave this 88%. But the audiences, and keep in mind, audiences that go to a movie are generally going to score it higher because they are the type who go to that movie.
SPEAKER 08 :
They're a fan.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right. They're the fan of this kind of movie. They gave it 48%. I'm going to give you some of the reasons why. First of all, it's too hard to tell what's really happening too often. When a filmmaker wants to keep you guessing and guessing about what you're seeing, you can lose interest if they keep you guessing too much and they overdo it. Next, this makes it difficult to get one's bearings and really enjoy the frightening events that are going on. You want to have a pretty good feel of what's actually happening. Not constantly wondering, is this really happening or am I imagining it? Is it really happening? Sure. After a while, you're like, you know, I lost interest. Right.
SPEAKER 09 :
I'm done.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, I'm done.
SPEAKER 09 :
I checked out.
SPEAKER 07 :
Exactly. Here's the biggest problem of the movie. The Draggar is such a poorly defined villain. Okay, because you're wondering, okay, is this just the undead come back to life that are going to feed? Well, not really. Okay, is it a spirit? Well, not really. It's physical too. Okay, well, is it undead? Well, sort of, kind of, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's very poorly defined, so you don't know what you're looking for. So it could be anything. And so any of these shadows, and they do great camera work. Boy, say that five times fast. They do that really well, but you don't know what you're looking for or at. And it kind of really detracts from the forebodingness of this. You want to know what's coming.
SPEAKER 09 :
Sure.
SPEAKER 07 :
I mean, in Aliens, you know exactly what the alien is. After a while, you know what's coming. You know to be terrified. Okay.
SPEAKER 08 :
The previews make it look dark to me. Is it a dark movie, too?
SPEAKER 07 :
You know, most of it's dark because it is way up north.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 07 :
during the largely dark season, but there are light moments, too.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 07 :
They do have very light moments, like when they see the ship go down. All right. They're having to deal with that. The slow buildup followed by a sudden leap in terror. You know, I have always said on horror movies, the timing of the buildup is absolutely crucial, not just on the movie as a whole, but also on each scene, right? You can't build up too long or too quickly. If you build up too quickly, you're killing the moment. Right. It's too sudden. You're not getting the whole shock. Right. You really because a lot of the terror is the expectation of terror.
SPEAKER 01 :
Right.
SPEAKER 07 :
Not to terror itself. But if you over build up, what are you doing? You're killing it. Right. OK, well, they over build up at times. And here's the biggest one. A very unsatisfying ending. And let me take a step back here. They don't overbuild up in each individual scene. It's actually very well directed in a lot of the individual scenes. They overbuild up in the movie arc as a whole. Okay. You have a very unsatisfying ending. It dropped the movie by at least a half a point just on its own. All right. Once again, Rotten Tomatoes gave this 88%, 48% from the viewers. I'm going to be a little nicer than them. I'm going to split the difference. Three stars. Okay. For the damned. Is this worth watching? Yes, it is. And it's 3-3-3. Political three, moral, religious three. It doesn't say a thing.
SPEAKER 09 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay. You know, I mean, you got people praying, but these aren't really knowledgeable Christians, but they mean well. All right. And... Do I recommend seeing the Damned? I do, but understand it's going to be a bit of a slow burn in the first half. The payoff is worth it, but I would like a better ending.
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Back to Rush to Reason, presented by Hi-5 Plumbing, Heating, Cooling, and Electric, where every call ends with a high five.
SPEAKER 07 :
And welcome back to Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560, John Rush, together with Andy Pate and John. Are you ready for another movie?
SPEAKER 08 :
Absolutely.
SPEAKER 07 :
All right, John. Well, you know, Gerard Butler is becoming the new Liam Neeson with off-season action flicks. Love that guy. I do, too.
SPEAKER 08 :
I like him.
SPEAKER 07 :
He's my style, isn't he?
SPEAKER 08 :
I agree. I like watching him.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, the lovable lug. I just love the guy. Well, next up for him is Den of Thieves 2, Pantera.
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In the top goes gangster.
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And a cop goes gangsta. You gotta like that line. Cop goes gangsta. Yeah. All right, here we go, John. Gerard Butler, he stars as L.A. Sheriff's Department detective Big Nick. He's outspoken, he's a slob, and he's a real rough guy. Of course, you know, Gerard Butler. And he's just come through a bad divorce, a really bad one, so he needs a case, John. He has a lot of movies like that. Yes, he does. You know, Gerard Butler looks like he's come through a bad divorce. He looks like a divorced man, yes, he does. I know he does. Well, overseas, a big jewel heist. It was just pulled off by Nick's old adversary, Donnie Wilson, who's played by O'Shea Jackson. Really good guy. Well, Donnie is smooth, speaks other languages, and he has a high-tech team with all the resources. And Donnie beat Nick in the first film. So after talking with the feds, Nick gets approval to set up shop in Marseille, France, a diamond-rich village frequented by Donnie and his gang. Donnie has a nice big office and a knockout assistant named Giovanna, played by Evan Ahmad. OK, Evan Ahmad. And the plan was to use the first jewel heist as a setup for the big heist coming up next. But now Nick is in town and he wants in. Can Donnie trust Nick? I mean, can you trust him that he's really gone rogue or can he not? Well, what follows is a game of cat and mouse with lots of plot twists. Nick has serious skills, but Donnie must be careful. Nick proves loyal. So Donnie brings him along on the heist. Well, ultimately, the heist is high-tech and high-drama with varying allegiances and even some outside influences from the mafia. It gets hard to remember just who serves who. So, John, can they pull off the impossible heist? Can they survive the mafia, whom Donnie ripped off before? Not too bright. Will the French police pounce on them before they can make the kill, make the steal?
SPEAKER 08 :
No, it's the French.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, well, yeah. Of course. And can anyone be trusted in Den of Thieves 2? That's the story. What do you think?
SPEAKER 08 :
Sounds good.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 08 :
I mean, that's a movie I'd watch.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, that's our kind of movie. Yeah. All the way. That was made for us. Yeah. They literally made that movie for us. Well, what works in Den of Thieves 2? First of all, Butler and Jackson are perfect in their roles. They really are. They're manly men with intellect and a charm that relates to the common viewer. That's me. Mm-hmm. All right. At one point, they discuss their childhoods and dads. And, John, it's a really good moment that cements their relationship going forward. It was a scene that was really needed in the movie. And it's just great. They're just sitting there relating. This is what it was like with my dad. This is what it was like with mine. In a good way. Okay. The plot twists are a real help keeping us guessing. They have, at one point, a really good car chase. And it's not just a car chase. Okay. You're flying through the mountains. It's a car and bullets race. All right, back and forth, back and forth. And you're probably thinking, oh, Andy, I've seen that in every James Bond movie. Yeah, but this is more raw. It's better. It's more real. Tearing apart windows and having to just, you know, go after each other. Really well done. Now, not these two after each other. They're in the same car. Very, very good scene. There's good high-tech wizardry and plenty of strategy and planning for the heist, which I always like. I love the planning on a heist. I do. And then to see it carried out, it's always a lot of fun. The second half of this film was very good. I gave the second half of this film three and a half stars. And finally, it has a very good ending. So I like a movie that ends well. What doesn't work in Den of Thieves 2? It's far, far too long for a tough guy action film. This thing is two hours and 24 minutes long.
SPEAKER 09 :
That's long.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, yeah. It should have been an hour and 45, John. At one point, they get this party scene where they're doing drugs and drinking, you know, and it's just... They could have cut the entire scene.
SPEAKER 09 :
It's too much.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yes. And in a number of scenes, and Corey went with me and she was noticing this too, in a number of scenes, there are several minutes of film added where you could have just cut, cut here, cut here, cut here. This is one of the worst edited movies I've seen in the last several months. Wow. Very poorly edited. The first half was almost intolerable. It dragged relentlessly. There were good moments throughout. There really were. Even throughout the first half, he had a good moment here, a good moment here. I like the characters. I like some of the character development. But it seemed like the buildup to each moment was several times as long as it needed to be. This had an average script at best. It really needed more humor, especially when you've got two actors like this who can really deliver good lines. And they can, can't they? Absolutely. Yeah, these two guys can really deliver. Just do the writing, all right? This needed more Italian job, less slow Euro movie.
SPEAKER 08 :
Got it.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay? There was far, far too little action for a Gerard Butler movie. When you had this great car chase and you had a couple other scenes, you realized, man, we could have used a lot more of this. This needed more John Wick and less slow Euro movie. Because that's what it is. It's a slow Euro movie. Europe. I don't like that. It's too arty. Ultimately, the biggest problem was the directing and the editing or lack thereof. And that's the problem with Den of Thieves 2 Pantera. Now, Rotten Tomatoes kind of surprised me here. They gave it 70%. I didn't think they would. I thought they would be in the 30s. I really did. So there you go. Quality, I'm not going to go that high. I'm going to give it two stars. The first half of this movie is a one-star movie. You know, not zero stars. It's got several good moments, but it is dragging horribly. Oh, a terrible yawner. The second half of the movie is very good. So if you're going to watch it, I literally, John, and this is the first time I've said this to my wife probably in five years, I literally could have walked in midway through the movie and enjoyed it more.
SPEAKER 08 :
Not missed anything, huh?
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, not missed much. Not cared about a lot of the buildup. Maybe a little before midway. Out of 224, I could have watched the last, say, hour and a half. I would have been in much better shape. Political three, more religious two, obviously. This is an okay movie. Den of Thieves 2, Pantera. Do I recommend going to see it? Only if this is really your kind of movie and if you're willing to be patient through the first half.
SPEAKER 08 :
So not near as good as the first one?
SPEAKER 07 :
I didn't think so.
SPEAKER 08 :
The first one was good.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, it was. I thought the first one was a lot fresher.
SPEAKER 08 :
Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER 07 :
I thought it had a better pace.
SPEAKER 08 :
Shorter, all that.
SPEAKER 07 :
It was shorter. Yeah. I mean, I still like the characters, so I'm there on that, but no, this is not as good.
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All right, last segment of this first hour of this Friday edition, Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Andy, one of the things you did when I was gone was best and worst of 2024.
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Yes, I did. And I don't want to obviously go through all that again, but I did want to give you a few high points. Okay. Just because I think some of these you're going to remember. All right. Now, first, I want to be very proud of one, and that is when I did the most pleasant surprises of the year. And number five, I'll just go through them. Number five, Arthur the King. We talked about it. Good movie. Number four, Abigail, the little vampire who's hunting these shallow people. Number three, Oddity, a very surprisingly good little horror film from Ireland, of all places. Number two, Land of Bad with Russell Crowe, the drone pilot movie. Surprisingly good movie. Great movie. And number one, though, the biggest surprise of the year for me was a movie called Flow. And it's a little cartoon about a cat in this post-apocalyptic world where there's floodwaters rising and this cat and this dog. Yeah, yeah. There's no dialogue and they act like they're real animals. Cat, dog, bird. We just did that one a few weeks ago. Yeah, I did. And, you know, I gave it a very good score and I recommended it to people. This is an animated film and it's very different, very weird, very good. And well, anyway, at the Golden Globes, which this actually hurts because I hate it when they agree with me. Well, you know, they're snooty and I don't like them. But the Golden Globes surprised everybody and gave Flo best animated picture of the year.
SPEAKER 09 :
Wow.
SPEAKER 07 :
Over Wild Robot, over several others that were these big money makers. And they picked Flo over all of them. And it was actually quite a big... upset yeah yeah it was uh really quick here worst movies of the year i won't put them all but i'll just say a couple jumped out the crow was awful the substance was awful uh joker 2 was terrible that that was number three number two skincare number one of course y2k which was awful beyond you also when i was gone did homestead right i did i gave it a poor review the uh cory hated it previews look great Yep. Previews look great. And that is another one where the previews, they did a great job putting together the previews. And, boy, you know, Joker, too. They did a good job putting together the previews.
SPEAKER 08 :
Good point.
SPEAKER 07 :
Then you had a terrible movie. It was not good. Corey was angry.
SPEAKER 08 :
Really? Just didn't like it?
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, she's homeschooled, and the depiction. One thing that we thought was really funny, which was just terrible, you have – The daughter of the rich guy who's there, right? She's homeschooled. And she's upset that nobody's asking her out. Corey was furious about this. Why? Because she's like a supermodel. I mean, this girl looks like you would see her in the next, I don't know, Swimsuit Magazine, whatever, Sports Illustrated. I mean, it's just ludicrous. Oh, woe is me. None of the boys will ask me out because I'm homeschooled. It's just like, stop. Stop. Right. Just that wouldn't happen in real life. No. Are you kidding? She would be sworn walks out to the curb. She'd have somebody. Exactly. You know, they'd be throwing. And then they had a romance between her and another teenage boy. And it was the worst done teen romance I have ever seen in any film.
SPEAKER 09 :
Wow.
SPEAKER 07 :
I've seen thousands of films. Oh, yeah. I mean, the writing was so clumsy. All of it was clumsy. It was ham fisted. And you're just like, oh, my gosh, this was poorly written, poorly designed.
SPEAKER 08 :
It was like an end of the world type movie.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yes, it was. And I was actually excited about it because it was a prepper thing.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right.
SPEAKER 07 :
And I kind of liked it.
SPEAKER 08 :
I don't want to watch it because of the program.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I want to see all the preppers. By the way, they don't do a very good job of prepping at times. I won't give away any more of it. Just not very well done. Okay, really quick here. A few nice surprises. Best actress was out of the blue. It just came out of the blue as an actress you've never heard of. Second was Hilary Swank with Ordinary Angels. And she was wonderful. Third, you just saw Daisy Ridley in Young Woman in the Sea. She was terrific.
SPEAKER 09 :
Great movie.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah. Fourth was Christiana Delano from Cabrini. And fifth was Lupita Nyong'o from A Quiet Place Day One. But number one was Carolyn Bracken. And she's in the movie Oddity. And she plays twin sisters. One is a murder victim and the other is her psychic sister. that she helps solve the murder, okay? And she was magnificent. I guess she's like an Irish actress or whatever. Anyway, best movie of the year. We got, oh, biggest letdowns. I had fun with this. I'll just reel them off. Moana 2, number 5. Number 4, Joker 2. And the reason it wasn't higher is I didn't have super high expectations for Joker 2. Number 3, Monkey Man. Boy, did that have great previews. boring movie uh number two if with ryan reynolds they made ryan reynolds boring how do you do that and number one the fall guy uh ryan gosling emily blunt okay best movie of the year um Young Woman in the Sea, Daisy Ridley. And you just saw it. Would you agree?
SPEAKER 08 :
Good movie. Very good movie.
SPEAKER 07 :
Very good movie.
SPEAKER 08 :
If you haven't seen it, it's worth watching.
SPEAKER 07 :
But there were some other surprises in there. Wild Robot, number two. Number three, Ordinary Angels. Number four, Hard Miles, the biking thing. About the guy here in town. Alien Romulus, number five of all things. And it was a very good alien movie. Best one I've seen since probably Aliens, the second one. Cabrini. Transformers 1 is a fun little cartoon. Worth watching. A Quiet Place Day One, Reagan, and Gladiator 2.
SPEAKER 09 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 07 :
There you go. So, you know, last year, actually, the reason I mention these again is, hey, it's rental time.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, some people watch these during the rest of the year and things get snowed in and what have you.
SPEAKER 07 :
Exactly. Exactly.
SPEAKER 08 :
All right, before we go to break, and a lot of you probably already saw the news, so I don't think this is going to be much of news to anyone, but Donald Trump sentenced to unconditional discharge for his quote-unquote felonies, and I put quotes around those because I think it's all a bunch of hogwash. He's got now time, of course, with all of this to really go back and appeal these correctly and take his time in doing so and so on.
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He will. It's ludicrous from the start to finish. It's terrible. But my prediction is he is going to have a ball playing the victim on this. See, these people don't seem to understand. Do you remember the PR he got off the photo after he got convicted?
SPEAKER 08 :
Oh, yeah, yeah. The mugshot? Yes, yes, yes.
SPEAKER 07 :
Donald Trump... I mean, when they think they've got him, he uses it to his advantage. He is going to be the one who is going to all the more highlight the lawfare of the American legal system and how it's being used by politicians across the board.
SPEAKER 08 :
Which it is.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, and he's going to use this as his hammer to knock people out of those positions in the deep state. I really do. I think he is going to enjoy the living daylights out of this. It's not going to affect his job at all.
SPEAKER 08 :
I agree. Before we go to break the L.A. fires, I talked about that during Ready Radio, but some of the little blurbs and I guess you could call them even commercials coming out of the Los Angeles Fire Department, some of the lesbian commercials and so on. Oh, my word, Andy.
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, they're horrible.
SPEAKER 08 :
If I were in that group, I would be ashamed to be a part of it.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, in fact, I've got a clip here, but I don't have it queued up. It is horrible. Oh, I saw it. It's ridiculous. Oh, so you saw it. I've seen it, yeah. This lady, and she is like the number two or three in charge. It makes 500 grand a year. She needs to be fired immediately.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, she does.
SPEAKER 07 :
She needs to be fired. Agree. What she says is horrible, it's bigoted, and it's also ridiculous. Look, bottom line is, I want a guy who can carry me out of a fire.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, her comment was he shouldn't be in that position. I'm paraphrasing, but essentially what she said was he shouldn't have got himself in that position in the first place. Right. That's basically what she said, right?
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, yeah, yeah. If you're worried about me carrying, because there are people who say, well, you know, if it is a woman firefighter, they've got to be strong enough to be able to carry a man out of a building.
SPEAKER 08 :
You've got to carry a 250-pound man out.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right. I mean, that's part of the job, right?
SPEAKER 08 :
Her comment basically was, well, you shouldn't have been there in the first place.
SPEAKER 07 :
You shouldn't have been in that position in the first place. Is she kidding me?
SPEAKER 08 :
That's what she said, Andy. We'll play it Tuesday, but that's what she said, yes. That's ludicrous. She should be fired over that comment.
SPEAKER 07 :
Let me tell you something. People who support DEI and rabid environmentalism are not popular in California right now.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, we'll talk about this more on Tuesday, but how many converts will there be out of all of this when it's all said and done?
SPEAKER 07 :
A lot. A lot.
SPEAKER 08 :
I think you're right.
SPEAKER 07 :
There are a lot of people out there right now saying, we have had it with the Democrat Party. No, they failed them. They did. I mean, obviously, we understand it's a fire with high winds. You can't stop it. But all of the things leading up to it where they weren't prepared, we'll talk about it Tuesday. Total failure.
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Live and local, back to Rush to Reason.
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And we are back, Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. All right, next hour, our final hour, we're going to do, of course, NFL picks. We'll have Richard and Andy do that as it's playoff weekend, first week of the playoffs, I should say.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yep.
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And some of these will be interesting matchups to see how things go.
SPEAKER 07 :
There's some close ones.
SPEAKER 08 :
Will there be any upsets is the question.
SPEAKER 07 :
And some not so close ones.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right, right. And then after that, we will do, because it's been snowing and going to have a little bit more snow potentially tomorrow and then another one potentially next week. We're kind of in that pattern right now. We're going to do snow movies.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, movies.
SPEAKER 08 :
Which is not a lack of, by the way.
SPEAKER 07 :
No, no, no, no. Well, I also had to do it because of the horror movie I just did, Iceland. True, true, true. It was cold.
SPEAKER 08 :
But it's snowing this week, too, so it's real fitting. So good job.
SPEAKER 07 :
You know, and this is cold snow.
SPEAKER 08 :
It was bitterly cold the last couple of days. I did not like it. No, you and I both. With the wind? I do not eat it, no. All right, we'll be back. Hour number two is next. Don't go anywhere. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
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John, if you watch a really good snow movie, do you just feel colder? I do. I mean, if the director really captures the feel of it.
SPEAKER 07 :
Especially some of these I'll mention today, yeah.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 07 :
Some of them, it's just like, ooh, you can feel it as you're watching.
SPEAKER 15 :
Right. And some are just stupid movies where, you know, there's snow there and that's fine. But some, boy, they take you there.
SPEAKER 07 :
For sure. Yeah. Definitely.
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And I'll tell you what, this horror movie I just watched took me there.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, that one.
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It made you feel cold.
SPEAKER 07 :
And those are movies I want to watch in the summer, not now.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah.
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Sorry, just being honest.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, they did it well. Like we were talking at break, you know, when you've got cold weather and the wind, it just feels so cold. You can be inside your house. The temperature is set where you normally have it. It feels almost five degrees colder.
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Putting reason into your afternoon drive. This is John Rush.
SPEAKER 07 :
All right. Rush to Reason. Denver's Afternoon Rush. KLZ 560. Rich will be joining us here in about five minutes or so. So really quick, before we move into that, Andy. Okay. Thought I'd throw this out at you anyway. So I was hoping Richard could chime in on this. But, hey, you can do this as well.
SPEAKER 15 :
All right.
SPEAKER 07 :
Saw in the news, for all of you that are out there that maybe haven't seen this yet, and to some of you not a big deal, but really it is a big deal, Broncos management talking about new stadium. And they basically said, well, you know, we've got several options, and they're going to run into some issues with moving it out of Denver. So let's say they go down to Highlands Ranch or they go out east towards DIA or whatever the case may be. We already know. that the stadium authority and Mayor Johnston and so on, they are not going to like that if that's what they decide to do. Too bad. That's my thought. Too bad, so sad, we're moving.
SPEAKER 15 :
It should be out by the airport, in my opinion.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, either that or there's a really nice place near their headquarters down in the Centennial, you know, near the airport and that down south as well. So either spot, I think, would work very well.
SPEAKER 15 :
Wait, you're talking south of Arapaho?
SPEAKER 07 :
Correct.
SPEAKER 15 :
Oh, yeah, but the access isn't nearly as good there. Actually, it is pretty good.
SPEAKER 07 :
I was looking at it today, the site that they're looking at. Well, I'm guessing the site they're looking at.
SPEAKER 15 :
No, I know the roads down there. I know Broncos, Parkway, and all this. But the access versus what you have currently, what you could have off of 70, north of 70 around the airport, it would be incredible. You can just add lanes. You've got wide open territory there.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, where they're looking, you've got I-25, 470, and some others that would lead to it. So, again, I have no idea what they're looking at. Bottom line, I would highly doubt, because you're going to read some things where they're talking about the city's going to throw out some land down towards 6th, 8th Avenue and I-25. Yuck. Thank you, Andy. No way. I'm going to throw up my mouth listening to that. It's like, blech. No, who wants to be there?
SPEAKER 15 :
No, get it out of there. Get it out of there. It's a terrible location right now because of what's grown around it. And because, you know, let's face it, the idiot planners of Denver and Colorado have not added the proper lanes that they need in around there.
SPEAKER 07 :
Worst thing about going to the stadium right now, and I do, I go to the home games, and the worst thing about going to the games is getting there. Right. The parking, getting there. The stadium itself, yeah, it's getting tired, and it's time for some upgrades, in my opinion. And I know a lot of old diehard fans still want an open stadium. I don't. I want a retractable roof on a new stadium. I think if you're going to do things correctly and have more events there throughout the year, you've got to look at a retractable dome. You could do all sorts of things in regards to concerts and so on. Oh, absolutely. Your ability to sell more things there, Andy, just get opened up hugely.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, John, you've got an incredibly rich owner. You do not have to skimp, okay? Of course you're going to go retractable roof. Of course you're going to go all in. You're not going to waste on this.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, and you've got to beat your cousin.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 07 :
Cronky. So you've got to. You've got to. You've got to build better than SoFi.
SPEAKER 15 :
But no, building downtown is just absolutely, to me, I would not in my wildest dreams even consider building downtown.
SPEAKER 07 :
So here's a question for you. We can talk more about this on Tuesday because it's more of a political question than it probably is a sports question. Okay. When the stadium authority, because there's only two years left on the current lease, I believe. So when the stadium authority has no more Broncos, what do they do?
SPEAKER 15 :
They suffer, but that's okay. Too bad.
SPEAKER 07 :
That's kind of the way I look at it. So, all right, Richard's joining us now. Richard, we talked about the stadium for a moment, but we got to get picks underway. So you and Andy can take it away.
SPEAKER 15 :
Taking it away. All right, Richard. Here we go. We're going to start off. Just so you know, I think there are a couple blowouts this weekend. Everything else looks close. First one looks close. The Chargers favored by three on the road at the Texans.
SPEAKER 08 :
Chargers, well, Andy, this was the matchup that all the AFC teams wanted, right, was to play against the Texans. They're not quite what they were last year. C.J. Stroud on sort of a sophomore slump, Andy, as happens quite often in the NFL. And the Chargers sort of coming on late, just a tough, hard-nosed Jim Harbaugh football team. So I'm probably with that spread, Andy. I don't think it's a blowout just because I don't know if the Chargers blow anyone out except for maybe the Raiders. So I'm going to go with the Chargers, even though they're on the road here. Joshua, my son, is going to go with the Texans, but I'm not sure about that one. So we'll go Chargers, though, as our pick.
SPEAKER 15 :
Oh, your son could very well be right. I think it doesn't matter. Neither team is going anywhere. These are playoff fodder. I'll take the Chargers just because. Next game, the Steelers are on the road at the Ravens. Ravens favored by 9.5. Real quick is Lamar, the MVP.
SPEAKER 08 :
Oh, Andy, I think Josh Allen should be. No. I do, just because I think of the talent that Josh has around him compared to Lamar is less. That's true. I think that Lamar is having a really good season. But, you know, Andy, if they didn't give Jokic the MVP because he won it the year before, then you've got to keep it consistent, right?
SPEAKER 15 :
Okay. This game's easy pick. Easy pick.
SPEAKER 08 :
This is an easy pick, Andy. Well, this in the AFC obviously comes down to three teams, which we'll get to the other few here in a little bit. But, you know, Baltimore is one of those. The Steelers are struggling. They really just had – they did well in the middle of the season. That's what got them to the playoffs. They're coming in on a skid. They're going to continue it. Mike Tomlin, great coach, but, man, he just cannot get over that hump in the playoffs. ever since Big Ben left, and they just seem to struggle. So, yeah, I'm going to go with the Ravens at home here, Andy. I don't care if it's a divisional opponent. it may be a hard-fought game because Mike Tomlin and the Steelers are really good at doing that. But Russ is going to give it away at some point in time, and then the Ravens will make him pay.
SPEAKER 15 :
I could see a hard-fought first half. That's it. I think the talent disparity here is too great. Ravens walk away with this in the second half. By the way, I don't think any team in the AFC is in the hunt for a Super Bowl victory this year. Sorry. I believe, and I've said this before, the NFC Championship game will be the Super Bowl. I really do.
SPEAKER 08 :
And you could be right, Andy.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah. And next game, the Broncos are on the road at the Bills. Bills are favored by eight. I disagree with this. I think it's a close game. What do you think? You know, Andy, I don't think the Bills are that good.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, I don't think it'll be a blowout, Andy, just for a variety of reasons. I think the Broncos will play them tough. They're playing with house money this week, right? They haven't been to the playoffs in forever. No one was picking them to be in the playoffs. You've got a rookie quarterback. All of the pressure in the world is on the Bills, right? They're the number two seed. They're supposedly the biggest competition to the Chiefs that's in the AFC, maybe next to the Ravens. It will be interesting to see, Andy. I think it will be close to, I think, and Josh, my son, as well, thinks that the Bills will pull away eventually. And it's more, Andy, just because I think Josh Allen is more of a superhero this year than even Patrick Mahomes was a few years ago when the Chiefs won. He just feels like he's more superhero-ish, and he's just going to will this team to a victory, no matter if they want to or not. So I'm going to go with the Bills, but I think it will be a tough, exciting game, to be honest with you.
SPEAKER 15 :
I'm going to go with the Bills barely. I think Denver has a better team than the Bills. I think that the Bills have the best player, and he's at home. And I think Josh Allen... will will his team to barely beat a better team because Denver is a better team than them. Buffalo is not that good of a team. I don't consider Buffalo to be a threat at all, honestly. I think it comes down to the Ravens and the Chiefs and the AFC, and they're going to fight for the right to get creamed by Detroit.
SPEAKER 08 :
Great enough.
SPEAKER 15 :
Really, I don't see anybody going up against Detroit. Next game. This one's easy. The Packers are at the Eagles. Eagles favored by four and a half. Again, I think they got this point spread way wrong.
SPEAKER 08 :
You know, Andy, I may actually disagree with you on this one. I'm probably going to go the direction that maybe people would think you would go based on your normal allegiances. Although my son, I think, is going to agree with you because he's going to say Eagles. Andy, I just think that the Packers are going to play them tough. I think that the Packers, they sort of come out against the best competition. You saw it a few weeks ago when I think when they played, they played Detroit, right? And they played them pretty tough. And so I think that that could be a very – well, I don't know if it's going to be a likely situation, but I think it's a very possible situation. And to me, it's a – I think it's a more competitive game. I guess I view this game more similarly to where – I guess the other 2-7 matchup, right, Andy? I view this game more similarly to the Broncos-Bills game than maybe you do. And I'm going to pick the Packers, maybe in an upset. Wow. Because I think that overall they – I just think they're going to pull something out, Andy, and – I'm just not sold on the Eagles in the playoffs and Nick Sirianni as the head coach. That's probably my biggest thing. I like LeFleur and love more than I like Sirianni and Hurts.
SPEAKER 15 :
Oh, yeah, Sirianni sucks, but it doesn't matter. They've got so much more talent. The big joke in Green Bay this week has been, will the Eagles rest their starters this entire game? And wait for the next week. Look, this game's over by halftime. I would take the Eagles will win by as much as they want to win. It all depends on when they go in a shell, how early they go in a shell, and start resting people. This is a blowout. Okay, I'll take the Eagles. Next game. Maybe the game of the week is the next two. The Commanders are on the road at the Buccaneers. Buccaneers favored by three. Has Baker Mayfield arrived? No. to his top pick status?
SPEAKER 08 :
You know, Andy, I don't know if he's ever... Number one pick is so hard to live up to.
SPEAKER 15 :
Okay, has he arrived, though, as a first-round quarterback status?
SPEAKER 08 :
Yes, yes. Andy, he is a quarterback that... I like him. ...better than half of the teams in the league would probably pick him as their quarterback. I agree. And you would not have thought about... What's really amazing, Andy, real quick thing is the Panthers... Well, and Bryce Young, notwithstanding, since he seems to come on this year, had Sam Darnold, who obviously we're going to get to here shortly. Right. And they had Baker Mayfield on the roster at the same time. And I think they had one other guy, if I'm not mistaken, on the roster that is now playing well. I don't know what happened. With that time, it just goes to show you, Baker is playing out of his mind this year. And while I think Jaden Daniels presents a unique problem for the Buccaneers, with any team he's going to play, he's still a rookie. I think he's going to go through what Bo Nix is going to go through against the Bills. It's hard to know, Andy, and it's very rare that you get a rookie quarterback to obviously not only make the playoffs, not only win, win a playoff game, do something in it. And now I think he's going to have his moments and he's going to show that he's going to be a star. But I just think it's just probably a little bit too much, to be honest with you. So I'm going to go with Baker, Andy, maybe claiming he's arrived. Again, I think he has. I think he's worthy of that contract that they gave him. And I'm excited to see where he goes. Andy, the Buccaneers, I'm telling you, depending on who wins, they may have a decent path to the nfc championship game because if the game if you and i pick the the next nfc game like united i think we will they they obviously they would play the eagles next depending on you kind of how that fit right and depending on their they may actually make it to the nfc championship game which is crazy to think they might i mean these are really close games i'm actually going to disagree with you
SPEAKER 15 :
Just because you went out of your mind picking Green Bay, so I'm going to go out of my mind. And I'm going to pick Jaden Daniels. Yeah, I'm going to pick the rookie. And let me tell you something. If he doesn't have the sophomore slump that we're seeing in Houston this year, next year, Jaden Daniels next year is a threat for MVP. This kid is a phenom. I love him, love him, love him. I love not just everything he can do physically, but I love his heart. This kid is a gamer, baby. And I'm going to pick him to go down into Tampa Bay and just be a gamer and stay in that game all the way to the end and then pull it out. But I'll tell you what, nobody is happier for Baker Mayfield than me. I'm loving what he's doing this year. I feel so good for him.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, Andy, when he – well, again, getting out of the mess that is Cleveland, which – Okay, real quick, Andy. I know we got kind of a late start. I thought once you – you saw the news today, right? What? Oh, go ahead. I'm sorry. You saw the news with Deshaun Watson, right, that he re-tore the same Achilles he tore earlier this year? Yeah, I mean – I mean, if there's not a more snake-bitten franchise, and I'm not a huge believer in karma, but that dude – I mean, just to get Baker out of that situation was the best thing for him to go to an organization like Tampa.
SPEAKER 15 :
Baker has wrecked all my religious doctrine. I thought when you went to hell, there was no getting out. He proved you wrong, Andy. He proved me wrong. He went to Cleveland. He got out. Okay, I'm taking the commanders in the upset just for the heck of it. Last game, boy, this looks tight. Vikings. are favored by one. The Vikings got their clocks cleaned last week by the prohibitive favorite in the entire NFL, the Detroit Lions. They are favored by one on the road at the Rams, so the Rams have been red hot.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, but it's no longer a true road game, Andy. Because of those old fires in L.A., they've moved that game to Arizona now.
SPEAKER 15 :
Is that where they're playing?
SPEAKER 08 :
By the way, great choice.
SPEAKER 15 :
Arizona has an awesome field, which I think may be the template for the new Denver Bronco field. It's gorgeous. But anyway, go ahead.
SPEAKER 08 :
Who do you like? You are absolutely correct. Well, Andy, I would say, honestly, if this, well, the Rams, I don't know how much true advantage they have in L.A., right, for a variety of reasons. Right. I've got to say, again, I haven't been sold on the Vikings. I think they're a fun story. I think they may get this game. I don't know if I'll take it that way. But I think that they're just, like you say, they're sort of the class of the NFC. There's some really fun, kind of interesting matchups. This is one of them because it'll be interesting how McVay goes against him. And he sort of goes against his disciple, right, in Kevin O'Connell. that was plucked from his staff a few years ago by the Vikings. Andy, Sam Darnold just sometimes looks a little bit too human, and he kind of came back down to earth last week. And I just feel like that's going to continue. He has no playoff experience. Matt Stafford does. Sean McVay does. The Rams are sort of getting healthy. Granted, it's going to sort of mess them up. It's not going to be a true home game for them. But I'm going to go with the Rams here, Andy. Semi on the road, even though it's going to be a neutral site game. I'll go with the Rams to pull it out and sort of end the dream Viking season.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, they still get the tickets, so I think they'll have the crowd with them. I'm going to take the Vikings, and it has nothing to do with the quarterbacks, but the defense. I like the Vikings' defense better than the Rams'. They're tough. They're physical. Look, they just got wiped out by a team that's going to wipe out everyone, Detroit. And let's end with this. Is there any reason that the other 31 teams were even playing? I mean, is Detroit, barring injury, are they just hoping for Detroit to get some key injuries? Because is this already over? Is the Super Bowl already decided? You know, Andy, if... I don't see anyone facing that team.
SPEAKER 08 :
I agree, but at the same... Well, in the NFC, I think so. Like I said, maybe Philly, because I think it'll probably be Detroit. The AFC is just so hit or miss, Andy, right? You've obviously got the Chiefs who only have to win two games, and they are the experts this year at winning any sort of game they need to, but especially the close games, right? Patrick Mahomes is going to go down and get you a four-minute drive, whatever he needs to, unless you're down two scores and he has to sort of let it fly, which has actually been his kryptonite this year. And here's one for you. I don't know if you saw this one.
SPEAKER 15 :
I think Detroit would beat them by minimum 20.
SPEAKER 08 :
But go ahead. Well, with the Ravens, Andy, the Ravens every 12 years, they seem to win the Super Bowl with a 28-year-old quarterback with a 34-something score in the Super Bowl. Yeah, but they normally have – Trent Dilfer was 28 years old. They won it in whatever it was, 2000, 2001. And then Joe Flacco was 28 years old in 2000, I think it was 2013, when they ended up actually finally playing that Super Bowl. Well, Lamar Jackson is 28 years old, Andy, and it's been 12 years since their last Super Bowl win. So maybe it's just in the cards for the Ravens to pull it out.
SPEAKER 15 :
I totally agree with what you're saying. And by the way, Lamar is my MVP. But no, the Ravens don't have a defense that's anything like those years. I don't think the Ravens are a complete team. I really don't. I'm telling you what, if the Broncos win this week, they could beat a Ravens team. Okay? I'm not sold on anybody in the AFC. I think the only team that can physically rival the Lions is Philly.
SPEAKER 08 :
I think that's it. I just think, again, the AFC would have seen a buff. When Buffalo's on, they're hard to beat. Obviously, the Ravens with Lamar, if he is your MVP. And, again, the Chiefs. I just think any of those three teams to come out of the AFC, they're likely playing Lions. And the only thing I'd say to this is this, Andy. When was the last time Detroit was the favorite, right? And it's hard to be the favorite. The Chiefs know what being the favorite's like. They embrace that pressure.
SPEAKER 15 :
That's true.
SPEAKER 08 :
And I think the Lions will maybe be there, but you've got to do it. Now, I think that they can do it. If there's any team that can, it's them. I don't know, Andy. It's hard to be that one seed and have everyone gunning for you.
SPEAKER 15 :
That's all I'll say. No, you're right, but the money's got to be on them. I mean, if you had to put down some money, you'd put it on them.
SPEAKER 08 :
You would. Well, the odds say the favorite usually doesn't win it, right? So the odds would be a Philly or a Baltimore or something like that. And granted, the Chiefs, I think, are almost the favorite right now. But, yeah, I'm with you, Andy. The Detroit team, if they play like they're supposed to play, then it should. It should be a no contest, and they should honestly waltz their way to the Super Bowl. I agree. John?
SPEAKER 07 :
All right, last question from a listener. Ohio-Texas game, what do you guys call starts in an hour?
SPEAKER 15 :
Richard knows better than I do.
SPEAKER 08 :
Go ahead. I'll take Ohio State. As much as I like Texas, just because I don't like Ohio State, Ohio State is that team that got burned by Michigan. and they are just taking every ounce that they felt, and they are just running through everyone. And I just feel like that's going to be the case tonight, and then when they play Notre Dame for the national championship, likely going to be the case. I think not only does Ohio State win tonight, but they probably win the national championship too.
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SPEAKER 07 :
All right, welcome back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. All right, snow movies, Andy.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yep, I'm going to do some different ones that I normally do. Don't want to go back to the same old stuff. I'm going to start off with an old movie with Liam Neeson called The Grey. Yep, it's in my list. Here we go.
SPEAKER 06 :
Don't move. Stay right back at him. If we can get to that tree line, we can better defend ourselves.
SPEAKER 1 :
Go! Go! Go! Hold on!
SPEAKER 11 :
She's gotta be kidding me. We can climb down.
SPEAKER 23 :
If we follow her river, we got a better chance of finding shelter.
SPEAKER 14 :
How are we gonna deal with this? We take them on, one at a time. I want to see your face. Feel your hands and mine.
SPEAKER 15 :
All right, and they're fighting wolves after a plane goes down. What do you think?
SPEAKER 07 :
It's a good movie. It was on my list.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, I thought it was pretty good. Okay, Richard, you're up.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, I feel like there's going to be lots of wolf movies, whatever it is, however you say it. Speaking of which, kind of a wolf movie, I'm going to go with one of my favorites, because Dad will know this, because of the book as well, White Fangs.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yep. Oh, okay. On my list.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well done, sir.
SPEAKER 07 :
All right, I had somebody text me this one, and it was on my list to boot. Has to be wolves. Most people don't think of it. No wolves in this one. I can remember. I don't think there is. Okay. Most people don't think of it as a snow movie, but there's thoughts. The Shining.
SPEAKER 15 :
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, absolutely. Okay, let's do a horror movie. And this is Up in the Snow, 30 Days of Night. Here we go.
SPEAKER 17 :
I saw him. Vampires here? Vampires don't exist, Jake.
SPEAKER 14 :
That cold ain't the weather. That's death approaching.
SPEAKER 02 :
They're tearing through everyone's home.
SPEAKER 15 :
Because it's 30 days of night way up there.
SPEAKER 07 :
We can last a month.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, and some vampires have come into the area, and they're spreading like crazy. Everybody's becoming a vampire, so your friends are hunting you. Josh Hartnett. It is definitely one of the most intense vampire movies I've ever seen. Really well done. Richard, you're up. Yes, all right.
SPEAKER 08 :
Did you see that, Richard? No, Andy, did not. Not a huge horror movie guy. Okay, all right. Go ahead. All right. What one that maybe I don't know if you'll think of or not, and it's got a little bit of snow, but you're going to have to think for it. Behind Enemy Lines. Yes. Good one.
SPEAKER 07 :
I forgot about that one.
SPEAKER 08 :
It dropped back there. Owen Wilson.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yes. I enjoyed that movie. I really did, and you're right. It's very icy. Good one. Yes.
SPEAKER 07 :
All right. Here's another one most people don't think of with having snow. Daddy's Home 2.
SPEAKER 15 :
Oh, Daddy's Home 2. Here's a little clip.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 11 :
I mean, I think for Megan, this is less about wildlife conservation and more about bloodlust.
SPEAKER 21 :
Looks like somebody picked the wrong day to be a turkey.
SPEAKER 14 :
Keep your elbow down and cradle the stock, okay?
SPEAKER 21 :
Yeah, I get it. Can I shoot the damn thing or not?
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, that's the spirit. Take a deep breath and then squeeze that trigger as you're letting it out.
SPEAKER 06 :
Megan, are you sure this is what you want to do? Let's name it. She's not going to kill it if it has a name. Yes. Gertrude. Tom. Billie Holiday. Elijah. Elijah.
SPEAKER 07 :
Elijah. Elijah. That's hilarious.
SPEAKER 15 :
It is hilarious. That was a good part. Daddy's Home 2 was one of those rare sequels. That was good. Where you introduce two more characters and they totally bring life back to the franchise.
SPEAKER 07 :
Just wonderful. I agree.
SPEAKER 15 :
Loved it. You're up.
SPEAKER 07 :
Um, all right. Oh, wait, no, you're up in your venue. Oh, that was mine. You're up.
SPEAKER 15 :
Oh, that was right. I thought it was Richards. I lost track. Okay. Let's have a little bit of singing here. And I want to honor Kristen Bell because Kristen Bell, who's a wonderful singer and actress, uh, just gave 50 grand to help people with their medical bills include or a hundred grand, including 50 grand to help a couple of people with leukemia. So way to go here. She is singing in frozen. Hmm.
SPEAKER 17 :
Forever There'll be magic, there'll be fun For the first time in forever I could be noticed by someone And I know it is totally crazy To dream I'd find romance But for the first time in forever At least I've got a chance.
SPEAKER 15 :
And there you go. What do you think, Richard?
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, well, it was on my list, of course, Andy, especially since I just got back from the exact opposite movie, which was Moana 2. Oh, yeah. But yeah, very good film.
SPEAKER 15 :
Did the kids like it?
SPEAKER 08 :
You didn't like Moana 2, Andy?
SPEAKER 15 :
No, I did not. Why not? I thought it was cheap and... You know, was it horrible? No, I didn't give it a horrible review, but I didn't give it a great one, no. It just wasn't very good.
SPEAKER 08 :
Did you ask the opinion of a 7-year-old, a 5-year-old, and a 3-year-old?
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, come on. Bright, shiny things dancing on the screen is going to be enough for that. Come on.
SPEAKER 08 :
They loved it, of course. So there you go. I just want you to know that you don't like children. So it's okay.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, I didn't know that until now. Thank you.
SPEAKER 08 :
There we go. Go ahead, John. You're welcome. I'm up. No, it's me. You were frozen, Andy. Well, that's right. You did frozen. Go ahead. Go ahead, Richard. All right. I'm going to go with the exact opposite of frozen, which is Dumb and Dumber.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, that'd be the opposite of frozen. It's on my list. There's a lot of snow in that one, actually. Yeah. I'm trying to think of ones where people wouldn't think normally that it's snow, but yet there is snow in it. So how about Grumpy Old Men?
SPEAKER 15 :
Oh, yeah. A lot of snow. Ice fishing.
SPEAKER 07 :
Come on.
SPEAKER 15 :
That was funny, too.
SPEAKER 07 :
But you don't think of it as a snow movie.
SPEAKER 15 :
No, you don't. That's not your first thing. Okay. I'm going to go with a movie starring Naomi Watts, which I gave four stars a couple years ago called Infinite Storm. She's a hiker. She's got to rescue a guy off a mountaintop. Here we go.
SPEAKER 19 :
If we don't get Logan, we're dead. See that down there, John? That's home. Let's go home, John.
SPEAKER 15 :
Very intense. That was a great movie. It was a good movie, wasn't it?
SPEAKER 07 :
It was really good.
SPEAKER 15 :
And Naomi Watts was wonderful. I thought she was just terrific. Absolutely. Go ahead, Richard.
SPEAKER 08 :
I can't believe we haven't said this one. And, yes, it's a classic. But I just love me a good, you know, storm movie, right? Like totally fictitious, you know, end of the world, global warming is the word. I just love them because I know it's like watching Mulan 80, right? You know, it's just fictitious. So you can just enjoy this. you know, science fiction type movie. So, of course, I'm going to go with The Day After tomorrow.
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, yeah. On my list.
SPEAKER 08 :
Moana's fictitious?
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, maybe not to you, Andy. Okay.
SPEAKER 07 :
Not a chance?
SPEAKER 15 :
Not to me. Go ahead, John.
SPEAKER 07 :
How about one where they eat each other?
SPEAKER 15 :
Oh, okay.
SPEAKER 07 :
Alive. True story.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah. Gross. Yeah.
SPEAKER 07 :
And true story. And they ate each other.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Well done. Well, you know, so often I play clips from Miracle. But I'm not going to do Miracle this time. I want to do one that's similar. Mystery Alaska. Here we go. We're selling this as a human interest story.
SPEAKER 01 :
The Mystery Boys. We don't know who they are or what they are. All we know is they have poor dental health and can skate like the wind.
SPEAKER 06 :
I don't know how to coach. If we're going to make a game of it, it should be you. If I'm coaching, I need a captain on the ice. Two things we've always had in mystery. Our dignity and our illusions. I suggest we cling to both. Big. Not that big.
SPEAKER 15 :
I'm not beaten. Anybody here tired?
SPEAKER 07 :
No. I've never seen that movie.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah. This little town called Mystery, Alaska, where they play hockey all the time, and they get a chance to play the New York Rangers.
SPEAKER 07 :
I put it on my list.
SPEAKER 15 :
And it stars Russell Crowe and Burt Reynolds, and it is a surprisingly good movie. I definitely recommend renting it for anybody who hasn't. Richard, go ahead. Who is Burt Reynolds in that movie? Burt Reynolds, he wound up being the coach. Was he the mayor or whatnot?
SPEAKER 08 :
Judge Walter Burns. Oh, the judge. The judge. That's right. He's a good judge.
SPEAKER 15 :
He's really good at it. Trust me.
SPEAKER 08 :
Does a good job. That's right. Fun movie. That was pretty good. It actually was an enjoyable movie. I'll give you that one, Andy. All right. I'm going to go with one. This is a fun, lighthearted movie. Cuba Gooding Jr. Snow Dogs.
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER 08 :
That was cute.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, that's on my list here somewhere.
SPEAKER 15 :
By the way, when you think of actors who are just flat-out likable, he comes right to mind, doesn't he?
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, he does.
SPEAKER 07 :
John, you're up. I'm surprised Richard hasn't mentioned this one yet. Iron Will. Oh, that's a Richard-type movie. It's a good movie.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, okay. Here's an action thriller from 2000, Vertical Limit. Oh, yeah, it's on my list. Yeah, and this is... Oh, is that a mountain-climbing movie with a lot of action? Here we go.
SPEAKER 01 :
My sister's dying up there, Mr. Wick.
SPEAKER 06 :
Up there, you're not dying. You're dead.
SPEAKER 15 :
I'm telling you what, if you want to see some action, that is intense.
SPEAKER 07 :
It's a good movie.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, it is a good movie. Okay, Richard, you're up.
SPEAKER 08 :
Underrated, Andy. All right, speaking of which, another underrated climbing movie. You actually just made me think of this, which is a good old Sylvester Stallone movie, Cliffhanger.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yes! And here we go, really quick.
SPEAKER 1 :
No! No!
SPEAKER 15 :
And she falls and she's gone. Oh, wait. No, no, no. That was from Kamala's campaign.
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, that's it.
SPEAKER 15 :
I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
SPEAKER 07 :
That's it.
SPEAKER 15 :
I'll see if I can get a cliffhanger clip later. Go ahead, John.
SPEAKER 07 :
Hot tub time machine. Jeez.
SPEAKER 15 :
You're an embarrassment. She'll see you now.
SPEAKER 07 :
Lots of snow. Yeah. And other things. Oh, hang on. We got Ashley calling in. Hang on. Give me one second. I'll get the right channel up. Ashley, how are you?
SPEAKER 20 :
Good. How are you?
SPEAKER 07 :
I'm good. What do you got for us?
SPEAKER 20 :
So a couple of snow movies. One that I really love, animated, Rise of the Guardians.
SPEAKER 15 :
Oh, yeah. Rise of the Guardians. Corey and I enjoyed that movie. Fun little movie. Okay.
SPEAKER 20 :
Yeah. And then the other one is pretty much every Harry Potter movie has at least one section in it that's just all snow.
SPEAKER 07 :
This is true. This is true. I've never seen one, so I will take your word on that.
SPEAKER 15 :
John.
SPEAKER 07 :
I know. Sorry.
SPEAKER 15 :
When are you going to have a childhood?
SPEAKER 07 :
Never.
SPEAKER 15 :
You're running out of time.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, never. At this point, too late.
SPEAKER 15 :
It's not looking good.
SPEAKER 07 :
It's all past.
SPEAKER 15 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 07 :
Ashley, appreciate you.
SPEAKER 15 :
No problem, guys.
SPEAKER 07 :
All right, man. Take care. Appreciate you very much. Keep going. We're good. You're up, right?
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah. Okay. Here's Bill Murray talking about how he's God. He's come to believe he is God, and he's not happy about it in Groundhog Day. Here we go.
SPEAKER 23 :
This is Gus. He hates his life here. He wishes he stayed in the Navy. But I could have retired on half pay after 20 years.
SPEAKER 19 :
Excuse me. Is this some kind of trick?
SPEAKER 23 :
Well, maybe the real guy uses tricks. You know, maybe he's not omnipotent. He's just been around so long, he knows everything.
SPEAKER 17 :
Oh, okay. Well, who's that?
SPEAKER 23 :
This is Tom. He worked in the coal mine until they closed the town.
SPEAKER 17 :
And her?
SPEAKER 23 :
It's Alice. Came over here from Ireland when she was a baby. She lived in Erie most of her life.
SPEAKER 17 :
He's right. And her?
SPEAKER 23 :
Nancy. She works in the dress shop and makes noises like a chipmunk when she gets real excited.
SPEAKER 17 :
Hey!
SPEAKER 23 :
It's true.
SPEAKER 15 :
How do you know these people?
SPEAKER 07 :
That was a good movie.
SPEAKER 15 :
It was a really good movie. That is one of Bill Murray's best.
SPEAKER 07 :
On my list. Okay, Richard, you're up.
SPEAKER 08 :
All right, Andy. Let's see here on the old list. Oh, we didn't do Leo yet, did we? And Revenant?
SPEAKER 07 :
No, we did not. It's on my list.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well done, sir.
SPEAKER 07 :
How about... Eddie the Eagle.
SPEAKER 15 :
Never heard it.
SPEAKER 07 :
It's a good movie. You've never seen it?
SPEAKER 15 :
I have not seen Eddie the Eagle.
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, you would like it, Andy. Okay. It's a great movie, actually. It's one of those sleeper movies, isn't it, Charlie? It's a sleeper movie that most people have never seen, but it's really good, Andy.
SPEAKER 15 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, here's the fun movie a lot of people have seen, Van Helsing.
SPEAKER 24 :
My life, my job, my curse is to vanquish evil.
SPEAKER 14 :
His name is Van Helsing.
SPEAKER 18 :
Some say you're a holy man. Others say you're a murderer. Which is it?
SPEAKER 14 :
It's a bit of both. He has come to a forbidden land to battle enemies that are legend.
SPEAKER 15 :
Okay, a lot of action. That was a fun movie. That's the one I've never seen.
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, really?
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, it's got the monsters and everything, but it's not that intense. It's good. Richard, have you seen it? Yeah, you've never seen Van Helsing, Dad? Nope.
SPEAKER 07 :
Never have. What's wrong with you? I don't know. It's kind of a devilish thing, isn't it? Isn't he like a devil or something?
SPEAKER 15 :
No, he's not a devil. He works for the church. Although he's a bad guy, but he works for the church.
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, okay. No, I've never seen it.
SPEAKER 15 :
I mean, the church is relative, Andy.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, you know. We won't get into the details of that. You know, it's the devil in veto. Yeah. Okay. But, yeah, it's a Dracula movie. I mean, it's not like it's amazing.
SPEAKER 15 :
I've never seen it, no. Hey, it's got Kate Beckinsale, so I am sold. All right. Richard, you're up.
SPEAKER 08 :
Exactly. All right, I'm going to go with one... Snowpiercer.
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, yeah. I think that's at the top of my list or close to it. One of the top, yeah. Yeah, very close to the top. Again, I'm trying to think of ones that most people wouldn't think of as snow movies. How about The Thing? The Thing.
SPEAKER 15 :
Oh, yeah. Well, that's classic.
SPEAKER 07 :
That's Kurt, right? Kurt Douglas, yeah.
SPEAKER 15 :
Okay. Scary, by the way.
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, yeah, Russell. Russell.
SPEAKER 15 :
Here's a classic I guarantee you haven't seen from 1985, but I'm telling you it is at least a four-star movie. It's a very good runaway train. Here we go. Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER 18 :
We make a hell of a team, don't we, man?
SPEAKER 21 :
No, no, nothing from nothing. Being around me is really stupid. I'm at war with the world, everybody in it.
SPEAKER 01 :
I don't know what happened, but there's no engineer on this train. There's nobody on this train but us.
SPEAKER 21 :
The brake shoes have burned off. The overspeed control must have gotten screwed up. Engineers do not just crow. You want to be a tough guy? You want to be a legend?
SPEAKER 16 :
Go back!
SPEAKER 15 :
I'm telling you what. I've never seen that one. John Voight is the star. That is an intense movie, and it's really good. Runaway Train. Can't recommend it highly enough. And, Richard, you're up.
SPEAKER 08 :
All right, Andy. You're going to have to tell me. I don't know if you saw this one or not because it looks good, but I don't know. It didn't get great Rotten Tomatoes reviews, but I don't care about that. I care about your thought process some of the time. Elevation.
SPEAKER 15 :
Oh, gosh. I can't remember it. I'm sorry. It came out like at the end of last year. Did you see it? I probably did, but I see so many.
SPEAKER 07 :
I'll go back in my notes and look, and I'll let you know.
SPEAKER 15 :
I see so many hundreds of movies.
SPEAKER 07 :
All right, one more before we let Richard go. Spies Like Us.
SPEAKER 15 :
Oh, Dan Aykroyd and Chevy Chase.
SPEAKER 07 :
Chevy Chase and all of them.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, okay.
SPEAKER 07 :
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SPEAKER 15 :
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SPEAKER 07 :
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SPEAKER 16 :
I'm a rich guy