
Join us as we dive deep into the intriguing discussions surrounding the latest government shutdown, its impact on political strategy, and the evolving face of modern protests. Discover how major figures like Chuck Schumer and the controversial 'No Kings' movement are shaping today's political landscape. We also unpack Middle Eastern tensions and the complex disarmament discussions that have captured the world's attention.
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This is worthy of note. Both California Senators Adam Schiff and Alex Padilla are gleeful about this government shutdown. They agree with Chuck Schumer when he said very candidly just a few days ago, every day of the shutdown gets better for us. Who's the us? He's talking about Democrats. He thinks this is assisting their party and giving him political cover so he doesn't attract a Marxist challenger in his next Senate re-elect.
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This is the eighth vote that they've had. The eighth vote that they've had. It's not going to happen. Not going to happen. So that's Mike Johnson telling you everything right now, all of the latest with the shutdown, because we're still in a we're still in a state of shutdown. And I'm totally OK with it because it's not candid. I just feel like I don't know. Although I hear I hear what. Other people have said that sometimes the most dangerous part is when everything else is shut down because there's a lot of things that can kind of get shoved under the door, so to speak. So I get that. Welcome to the program. Dana Lash with you. A very allergen-induced Texas Wednesday. Kane and I are on the struggle bus. Some of you sound like this because allergens. You know why? It's because Texas is beating us all to death with pollen. juniper cedar in particular we're dying right now so we're it looks like it literally looks like moisture on a radar there's so much pollen in the air we're uh so please pray for kane and i so this is fyi uh all right so where to start um with the shutdown eighth now the eighth Vote. I don't see it actually happening, if I'm being real. I don't think they're going to get it done. And I'm totally okay with that, honestly. Nothing's changed since when we talked about this yesterday. Not a single thing has changed. In the meantime, you saw Presidential Medal of Freedom yesterday. Erica Kirk was there and the newly renovated Rose Garden. They gave the medal out. And then the other thing that we're looking at is the No Kings thing coming up this weekend. They're still going with that, the no kings thing. So they're having, I mean, it's obviously very organized. I guess they're doing like scene stir protests that are coming up on Saturday. I was looking at some of their, I guess you can call it their advertising on it. He's a really bad king because he doesn't act like a king. I mean, I don't know how you can see everything that happened with the peace deal. and everything else and think that somehow this is a no-kings. That's very interesting for people who put literal crowns on Barack Obama. That's fascinating for people who literally chose their last Democrat Party nominee for president by, I mean, literally they just selected her. They didn't even have the primary caucus process in the Democrat side to pick Kamala Harris. I mean, it was it was a coronation. That's all it was. So that's so ironic for the people who picked their last candidate via coronation to go on and say, well, you know, we don't it's a no kings. We want no king. It's fascinating to me. I find that fascinating. So this I just think, too, if there were even if he was even remotely close to that, why would you have so much litigation over every single policy that he tries to introduce? I mean, every policy. There's just there's how many lawsuits are there? I mean, there's more than I can count, more than we can almost keep up with. There's there's infinity lawsuit every single time, every single time he does something. I'm just saying if if he were a king, I think that the Antifa and some of the other Islamist entities would have already had classifications that I mean, again, the no kings from the party. Speaking of that, that put parents on watch list because they spoke out in school board meetings that. These are the people who are going after the Catholics. They were going after the Jewish people. They were going after everybody. I mean, come on. I just think this is so goofy. Who's seriously running with this stuff? I got to tell you, any of my remaining lefty friends that go to this cringe-tastic ridiculousness over the weekend on Facebook, I'm going to have to get rid of them, Cain, because it's just cringey. I mean, you got Big Tish committing mortgage fraud up there, and they're protecting her. You got a Nepo baby whose mom directed his failed rap video. Who is running for mayor in New York? I mean, we're talking about kings, not even running. I mean, that's just a long coronation process also. I mean, these are people who never once questioned who is actually signing these bills under Joe Biden. They never actually questioned who was president, but they all know one Joe Biden. So spare me the nonsense about no kings because y'all y'all treat all of your leaders like that. Just it's asinine. So a few things. In addition to that, hopefully it's not going to happen anywhere near you and your traffic won't be affected because I'm going to tell you, I see blocked roads and I just want to go faster. You're not going to arrest me and kidnap me if I'm not able to move. That's you're kidnapping me. That's how I look at it. And I will fight to defend my life. So that's how I look at it. So we see a couple of Hamas, obviously not violating or not honoring the terms of their deal, as is right now. I think that they've had enough time. Personally, I think that Trump should just say, well. I'm not going to sit here and pick over every single facet of your actions. So, Israel, you do what you need to do. If you're going to take that strip over, take it over to hell with everybody else. These people had their time. Look, Arab nations, the Qataris better get their fat blanketed asses over there to Gaza. and tell the rest of these Hamas leaders, stop it. Drag them out by their hair if you have to. Otherwise, turn the damn thing to glass. Done with it. This has gone on for so damn long, I'm tired of talking about it. I am tired of talking about it. All these people urging caution. To hell with your caution. Buy the ticket, take the ride. So if they're not going to honor every aspect of the deal, POTUS said, well, if they're going to if they won't disarm, we'll disarm them violently. Yes, I agree with that. Disarm them violently. Disarm them in front of their families. Emasculate them in front of their fat, burk and carrying women and their proud terrorist children. Go ahead and do all of that stuff. All for it. Tired of this. This is stupid. We went through this whole thing. POTUS was very nice about it. For all your faults with him or for everyone else's objections to him, you can't object to this. I thought it was very well played, very well negotiated. Why not follow through? Oh, because they want to hold on. Because the problem is them. They're chaos agents. They are the problem. That's the issue. Audio sound by three. POTUS said this yesterday, and I don't think he's playing. Listen. Now cut three.
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How long will it take Hamas to disarm? And can you guarantee that it's going to happen?
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Well, they're going to disarm because they said they were going to disarm. And if they don't disarm, we will disarm them.
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How will you do that?
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I don't have to explain that to you. But if they don't disarm, we will disarm them. They know I'm not playing games.
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You know what that reminded me of? We can't play it because YouTube is a butt wagon and they'll remove it. So I don't know. We ought to just let the first deal with it. But Dalton from Roadhouse. Remember that infamous scene? I mean, it's one of the best films that's ever, ever been made. You know, it's just really it's an Oscar worthy picture, Kane. It's a it's a it's a go picture. It's a go picture, you know. So when Dalton was telling everyone, look, be nice. When somebody needs to be walked, walk him. If you can't walk him by yourself, ask one of us and we will help you walk him. And be nice. But he says also, be nice until it's time to not be nice. And so that sounds like that's what Trump is saying here. So I feel like as though that is, that's, at some point, I think that order is going to have to change. That's going to that order is going to have to be given. I really do think that really do think that. So we'll keep we'll keep an eye on all of that. Also, in addition to the no king stuff, the ongoing homage, we're going to get into some of the domestic stuff. We've got Democrats and Republicans, the Politico article, all that kind of stuff. Fall has a way of making you slow down and indulge in the comforts of home, swapping busy summer days for quiet weekends and cozy evenings with your favorite shows and restorative self-care rituals. You didn't think it could get any better until Bull & Branch turned your bed into a sanctuary of comfort with the softest, most extraordinary bedding for crisp fall nights. So the first night you put them on your bed, you're going to be able to tell right away. I mean, mine are soft, cool, and they have a great weight. It feels like a five-star hotel room in your own house. And these sheets, they get better with time. So I've washed mine over and over again and they just keep getting softer. Try that with cheap sheets because they just fall apart and they pill. Bowl and branch gets more luxurious after time. So there's no way you're gonna go back to your old flimsy sheets. Start building your sanctuary of comfort this fall with bowl and branch. And for a limited time, get 20% off your first set of sheets plus free shipping.
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What? Protein powders and shakes are reportedly containing high levels of lead, says Consumer Reports. I'm actually very interested in what women's cosmetics facial powder, the lead in that and other stuff. Anyway, they're saying protein supplements are wildly popular, but Consumer Reports tested 23 products. Two thirds of them contain more lead than it's safe to have in a day. Can I be honest about something? I don't care. You know, I'm just, I'm not into it. I don't care. I mean, I like protein powder. I don't care. Do you care, Cain? I'm sure you do. I just, you know, I... I'm sorry, I eat animal protein.
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I don't do protein powder.
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What?
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I don't do protein powder. Oh, and I got something else to share with you about whey protein from the NIH. We're going to fight on break. We can get into that if you want.
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We're going to fight on break. This guy over here. I'm surprised you don't have your little kombucha tea out that you're doing your little thing.
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I haven't drank that in a while, actually.
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Yeah. They said that two-thirds, blah, blah. I'm not going to get into the list of them because I don't care. I don't care about any of that. I don't care about the colors in food. I just don't like the preservatives in that. Yeah, that's where I do draw a line. I mean, I'm half joking and half not. There's just so many things for people to be upset about. I'm tired of being upset about everything. Can we just wake up for one damn day and be like, wow, look at that. There's nothing to be upset about today. Wow. What are we going to do with all this time? I don't know. You know what people will do? They'll find something else. They'll work earnestly to find something to get upset about. Yeah, that's, you know, we don't need to be that way. Satellites are leaking the world's secrets. Calls text military corporate data. That's not good. Yeah, it's not good at all. This story has gone bye-bye, though. Let's see. The average new car price tops $50,000 for the first time ever as Americans shift to horrible, crappy EVs. And I'm sorry, if your car is half electric, it's not a luxury model. It's a piece of garbage. It is garbage. Does that make you feel better about it? Garbage. I want gas and oil. I want to feel like my car's door is so heavy that it'll kill me and that my car could explode from all the gas and oil that's in it. God bless gas and oil. It is God's juice. Done with it. Not even messing. So yeah, it's because everybody's buying these super ridiculously expensive EVs. Rich people will find a way to make a luxury item out of something. Just give them, let them cook. Give them a second. And Trump threatens China with cooking oil embargo over the soybean snub. They'll find some gross way to get cooking oil over there. Watch. Stick with us. We've got more in store. Our partners that bring you the program, it's our friends over at All Family Pharmacy. All Family Pharmacy is a great website. This is like your... All medication, everything repository. It really is. Anything that you need, they have at All Family Pharmacy. And All Family Pharmacy not only has your everyday medications, they also have a lot like antibiotics. They have Tamiflu. You can get things in two to four days. You can get them overnighted if you're in a pinch, which I have done. Not only did I do that when I was getting sick before Thanksgiving and And I was able to get a Z-Pak. But my son, who is at school, was getting strep throat. And before he could get in to see the doctor, I was able to get some all-family pharmacy overnighted to him, some amoxicillin. And then it's funny because when he went in to the doctor, they prescribed him the same thing that we'd ordered from all-family pharmacy. So you fill it out, the doctor reviews it, and then they send you your medications. They have ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine and membendazole and NAD+, everything that you need. You don't need any gatekeepers. All Family Pharmacy makes it accessible just to you. And it's so easy. You can get 10% off right now when you go through allfamilypharmacy.com slash Dana and use code Dana10. So don't wait. Visit allfamilypharmacy.com slash Dana, code Dana10 for 10% off.
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That was yesterday at the Capitol. Bunch of Democrats. Do they even know where they're walking? Because they have their phones up. They have no idea where they're going. They just all put their phones up. They're upset. They got into a little bit of a tiffy there. They're trying to... They're swearing in to... They're accusing him of not swearing and... another lawmaker to avoid who knows what. I don't know. The government shut down. You guys won't vote for anything. So don't expect to get what you want when you won't vote to pass the CR that you had no, all y'all had no problems voting for. I think it's fine that the Republicans are playing hardball for once. I'm actually surprised that they've stuck to it this long. Kane, aren't you? I'm actually really shocked that they've stuck with it as long as they have, because every day I keep waiting. OK, how are we going to deal with this? They're going to cave because the last time that they didn't was back in 2010. Welcome to the program. Dana Lash with you. We're at the bottom of this first hour. The chat's at Rumble. You can also watch the radio program, Channel 347, DirecTV. No, that's not when you guys don't work with us and you don't pass the CR. We're not going to give you anything else. What do you think this is? I mean, if you want to play no Kings, we'll show you how that works. Don't tempt me with a good time. My gosh. I mean, please don't. But I like that they're holding the ground on this. I have to tell you, it's weird. Isn't it? I'm not used to the feeling of... satisfaction by the way that they're handling this narrative war from the media. And I'm so used to being disappointed with the GOP on this that I don't quite know what to do with myself here, to be honest with you, because this usually in the past, this is already dissolved into whining and cowardness. It's very interesting. So they're doing well on this. They got to keep it up because at some point Democrats are going they're going to have to they're going to have to break. And all it is, is they are they have to affirm what they've previously spent. And this also comes on Chuck Schumer. This is more of a reflection on the Democrat leadership than it is really on Republicans in the past. And I think that this goes to show you how much influence. Schumer and really Pelosi have lost. And I don't know if I don't think it's so much a measure of Hakeem Jeffries influence because Hakeem Jeffries comes from the more the very progressive side of things. Right. He comes from this very progressive side of it. And he's just a super far leftist. So this is just a reflection of who the party is. But at some point, It's going to cost them, whether it's a special election or something, or they're going to start seeing the polling reverse. And you're already seeing how close it is in New Jersey and in Virginia and some of these other places. They're going to realize that it's better for them to make their their base angry. than it is to further alienate independents and moderates. And that's the difficult position they're in. That's what they're trying to weigh right now. They don't want to have this alienation of the people that they can't win elections without. And quite frankly, the super far left, hyper progressive faction of their base, those people don't reliably go vote. That's something that's backed up by, I mean, decades of data. They don't go vote. They just don't. The super far left ones, they don't vote. They're fine with being pictured at rallies and doing all of this other stuff, but they don't ever vote. I remember, in fact, I was going and looking at this last night and some of the previous exit poll data. And it's always whenever they ask you, you know, how do you identify? Are you in job approval? All this stuff. They use all of these factors to determine votes. where you are on the scale in terms of how far left you are. And it's always the people who are furthest left, the people who think that, you know, the Bernie Sanders is of the world are acceptable that, yeah, socialism is great and willingly identify themselves as this. They're the ones who actually don't go and reliably vote. And they'll say they don't vote consistently. So they'll vote. It's always a tiny percentage in all of the exit poll data. And then when you look at and that's obviously when you're leaving a polling place. And then when you look at registered voters as opposed to likely voters, likely voters, they talk a very good game and they always make up a very good percentage of those surveyed. But then when it comes to reconciling that with the number of actual people who go and cast ballots, it's never fair. evenly represented. I mean, it's so disproportionate. It's wild. They don't go and reliably vote in the same manner that the youth, when they always talk about rock the vote, when I was growing up in school and they were all MTV and everybody else, we just, they didn't go on vote. They don't go on vote. So it's this, and I don't know, it's not because they typically skew younger, which that's part of it, but that's not the whole reason. It's just, I think they're lazy. I think the hallmark of being that far left is you are lazy AF. And they just don't go vote. I think that's pretty accurate. Can you agree? What's weird to me is that they'll get up and go to rallies and they'll go and block walk. But I think it's because they want to be seen. But God forbid they get up and go cast. I mean, I'm happy. Don't read me wrong. I'm happy that they don't. Long story short, Democrat leadership has got to figure out you can't win both those factions. There's no way you can carry the far left and the independents and moderates because the independents and moderates already think you're freaks. They don't want anything to do with people who don't even know what a vagina is. They're freaking out. They don't want anything to do with these people who want to tax them to death. Man, Donnie's freaking everyone out. I'm telling you, I'm talking to people that I work with in the industry that are not on the other side of the camera. They're the ones who do the math and do the legal and all of that stuff. And a lot of the representation that I work with is either in LA or New York. And they're all like, it's very rare to not find people who are super far left. But even the people who are in that industry, they're freaking out over Donnie. They're freaking out over Katie Porter. They're freaking out over all these people. They're like, wait a minute, we're Democrats, but we're not like that. That's the most common refrain that I'm hearing. And they're kind of sitting on their hands waiting to see what leadership does. I've heard this so much from people. So when they get to that point, I think Democrats are going to cave. And that's what Republicans are driving them to is that point. A few other things. I wanted to. So there's more stuff about this Baldwin crash that we talked about yesterday. So we had this story where Alec Baldwin was with his brother and he ran into a tree with his wife's Land Rover. Wow. And his story about it was weird. He was saying that he first off, he was describing a literal average run of the mill garbage truck, like the garbage truck that goes around my neighborhood looks just like that. The garbage truck in Kane's neighborhood and Juan's neighborhood looks just like it. It's literally your average garbage truck. I've seen them in St. Louis City when we lived downtown, and I've seen them in Dallas. I mean, it is just a basic garbage truck. And the reason I'm spending so much time telling you this is because Alec Baldwin described it as, I've never seen anything like it. I guess it was a garbage truck. I guess it was a giant commercialized garbage truck. And he was freaking out. And he was trying to set up this elaborate story that this garbage truck cut him off. And that's why he ran into a tree. Now, of course, the company is going to respond to something like this. Because if you're talking like that and you're trying to do all of that in public to blame it on the other guy, they're probably smelling maybe a potential lawsuit. Like, is he going to sue us? Or is the property owner going to sue us for property damage? They don't want to be associated with that. So now they're firing back. And when you watch the video, which we showed you yesterday, to me, because it shows the front... the front of the trash truck, like they have a camera there and when they were driving and you, the truck is driving like normal. And then Baldwin's Range Rover at the very end, you see it fly up. Juan's getting the video ready for you. Now you see it fly up on the side and then it runs right into the tree. So this is the front. This is the, this is the front of the trash truck. And you see, they're just going down the road, right? The roads are wet. It looks like everybody's driving pretty slow and they pull over here and then watch. Boom. There's Baldwin. Okay. Now, what does that look like to you? It looks like, A, he's driving so fast that he can't control his car. That is, I bet you that the speed limit on that road, because the houses on either side are so close, that's probably, what, 30, 35 speed limit right there going through that residential area. I'd be shocked if it was over 40. The way that Baldwin so recklessly pulled. Now, it's a trash truck. Trash trucks are usually out on trash day. I'm assuming that they're picking up trash. This is a Wednesday. When did this happen? On a Monday. That's probably trash day for them. And it seems to me like he was probably driving recklessly close, recklessly fast. That truck didn't cut him off. He just couldn't stop. And it seemed like he was trying to pass like that little road right there on the right. That's where he flew. It looks to me like he was trying to pass him on the shoulder. I don't know how else that happens. Now, the company's hitting back because Baldwin was blaming the trucker for this. And the cops, they said that footage was contradicting his version of events. They said that it appeared on the right side of the vehicle. There was no emergency lane, nothing like that. And the truck had completed. The truck didn't cut anybody off. I don't understand why. The only way that he could be cut off is if he's trying to go on the shoulder. And maybe the truck was going to allow him to pass. I don't know. You're not going to get the truth from Baldwin. But they one of the residents said that the stretch of road, they do have a lot of accidents in the neighborhood. But she said this is what she said. She goes, I wish I had a dollar for the times that I've seen people on their cell phones distracted driving out here. We joke that it's like a sport now, but it's actually quite serious. She said it wouldn't surprise me if he was distracted. I don't. I think it's probably maybe some of his temper, but clearly you can see the truck isn't cutting anybody off. And the Daily Mail went out and was speaking to people that lived in the area and they were totally not at all surprised that he was involved in another accident. Just got to find, you know, nobody was injured, but they're disputing his version of events because it sounded like he was really trying to blame them. Here's the other thing. I don't know why he felt like he needed to address it. in a video. What is this obsession that people have? Let me run to my camera, pointed at myself. And you know, I'm going to just, what, what, if I was an attorney, I would be telling him to just shut your stupid mouth. If I was a crisis, uh, uh, uh, PR in, in public relations and dealt with crisis management, I would say, dude, you're not even out of the Helena Hutchins tornado yet. Just shut your stupid, shut your mouth. There's no reason. And he was agitated in the video that he recorded. So I believe him less with all of this stuff now. But if this was anybody else, I didn't seem like they administered a DUI examination to him. I would have done that. Who drives like that? It's very interesting. I was talking to someone who actually lives. They emailed the show. And they don't live on that road, but they live in that area. And they were saying that, you know, obviously you get a lot of rainfall in the fall and in the spring and people just drive slow. 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I saw your voicing Professor Umbridge in the new Harry Potter audiobooks. I was wondering, are you aware that some fans are calling for a boycott, giving J.K. Rowling's ongoing campaign against trans people?
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I was not aware of that, no. I'm very sorry. You know, I think we're all living in a period of time right now where we're all going to have to figure out how to live together, aren't we? And we've all got very different opinions. So I hope that we can all... find respect.
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I don't. What's the problem with what she said? People are getting upset with Keira Knightley for some reason. I think she's lovely. And that's a stupid question to ask. But she was being very nice about it. She's doing the voice of Dolores Umbridge in the audio book of Rowling's book series. So James McAvoy, Kit Harington, Simon Pegg, Matt Berry, who's very good. And I think people are trying to get there again these people wake up they're so miserable these people live such miserable lives they take joy and being miserable to everybody and they're just trying to find someone that they can get upset with and they're picking now they're trying to pick her And so she was doing this interview with this, I'm not just cider, this lame publication. And they're asking her this question. And, you know, she kind of laughs about it. And they're saying, oh, she laughed. Can you believe she laughed? And can you believe she said she didn't know? Because she's not a loser like you people. She doesn't sit around here and do burn book mean girl style and figure out who's fighting with who. And quite honestly, these people are getting upset over J.K. Rowling. Shut the hell up. No one cares about your stupid opinions. OK, you have not even contributed one artistic anything remotely. close to the level of artistry that she has given to the arts and entertainment community. These people are mad. They're trying to force compliance with their cosplay. If they were truly happy, they would just live their lives content with how they view themselves. But that's not enough because their problem is inward, not outward. They want to force all of you, everyone else to affirm their cosplay. And if you don't, you, not they insanely in their view are the bigot. It's insane. These are actions of insane people. Make mental institutions great again. And to go after her for it, I thought she handled that idiotic question wonderfully. I would not have been as nice. She handled it very nicely, I thought. She was very calm and chill, and she was very respectful with her opinions. How can you get mad over saying, well, we all have different opinions, so I hope that we can all find respect? Well, I'm mad. That's what these people are saying. They're mad at her for saying that everyone has opinions and that we should all be respectful of people's opinions, which I don't think you should be, but I even think she's too nice there. If your opinion's stupid, I have no respect for it. No one is owed respect for an opinion. You aren't owed respect. At most, you are owed indifference. That is it. You're not owed anything else but indifference. So she's even very nice there. But as Juan correctly notes, they want her to pick a side. Mm-hmm. What team are you on? They want her to put the jersey on what team they're trying to determine. See, they're sniffing you out like some jackbooted thugs. They're sniffing you out. That's what she's not. She's removing herself from that. She's not playing that. I always find it interesting. You have some lowly reporter who probably eats cat food and can't make ends meet because they decided they wanted to major and get a job in a completely unrealistic dying industry. And so they ask someone who is infinitely more talented and more successful a stupid question like this. And that is a way to elevate their own profile and maybe gain wider acceptance and larger and more ascended professional circles. They decide to stoke a witch hunt like this. It's stupid. So good on her for giving, not really, but rhetorically kind of a middle finger to this. We have more on the way. Second hour coming. Stick with us. As we move our partners that help bring you the program, it is the folks over at WebRoot. WebRoot wants to make sure that you are surfing the web safely. Honestly, there are so many people out there, and it's sad, but this is unfortunately the way the world works now. 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I said President Trump is the worst president in American history for America's children. He's taking food out of their mouths with the SNAP program, health care away from them, education, children with special needs. just reducing the number of people who work there from over 100 to barely 20 for children with special needs. And he's, on top of it all, giving them $4 trillion in national debt to pay for.
SPEAKER 20 :
Actually, that was y'all. Y'all wanted to add like a trillion. How much do they want to add to their CR? And that's why they won't pass it.
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1.5 trillion.
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Yeah. Nancy Pelosi. Can I just sidebar? Because this is why you guys tune in in the first place. Ladies, do a fit check on your... a tone check on your outfits. Not everyone can wear the same red. Some of you need a cool-toned red. Some of you need a warm-toned red, because otherwise it makes you look harsh, and it brings out the rosaciousness of your cheeks naturally, and it doesn't look great. And it just looks... I just don't like that harsh... It's like two of an orange-red. And with the lipstick, it's just way too much. Sorry. You know, pick one or the other. This is why you tune in to me. Joan Rivers was an icon. I'm sorry. This is... I can't deal with the red. And then it's like, what, more of a ruddy jacket and then a bright red top? Men, it's OK. Your wives get it. It's all right. I just was so distracted. I'm like, what in the ever loving? Oh, my gosh, is that that's. Welcome back to the show. Dana Lash with you. Top of this second hour. He hates kids so much. Is that why they decide to get a 300 million dollar? They were given a 300 million dollar infusion from the I don't even agree with this, by the way. But I'm just saying, be accurate. They got $300 million from the administration so that they didn't run out of money from the shutdown. The SNAP program, the Women, Infants, and Children program, all of it, they got that they found a creative solution to use tariff revenues to keep the program afloat. And literally by Thursday of last week, there were states already receiving money from this. And the Intertribal Council of Nevada said, You know, that's because you have the indigenous Americans that Democrats pretend to care so much about that they rounded them up, their hero, Andrew Jackson, against the Supreme Court order and put them on the trail of genocide on unworthy, valueless government land until they realized that they were mineral rights and gas and oil. And then they tried to fleece them even further and they don't allow most of them to own their own property. Those Democrats. Yeah. So the Intertribal Council of Nevada actually reported that after they had closed their office because they were running out of money, they reopened it because they had more money. And again, I don't even agree with this. But to say that he's shutting these programs is just such a despicable lie. Can you just tell the truth? You can't tell the truth because you look bad for it, right? You look real bad. Let's talk. You want to talk about taking money out of people's hands, out of their pockets, food out of the mouths. Let's talk about the trillion dollars that Democrats wanted to spend. No joke. No exaggeration. on illegal immigrants coming in. They wanted those people who were coming into the country illegally, they wanted to reward them by allowing them to have the access to healthcare benefits that we all pay for with our tax dollars. And they wanted to spend more of your money and basically spend you and your children and grandchildren further into debt by paying them off to make that happen. So let's have that real conversation because that's stupid. Why in the hell would you go out and say something like this knowing that there was a $300 million cash infusion That literally prevented everything that she just said. And by the way, it's not the fault of Republicans that are doing this. It's the fault of Democrats that are doing this. They passed this damn bill a million times. They just don't want to pass it again because they don't want to give Trump a win, even if that means they were to actually make other people go hungry. So there you go. And again, I don't even believe in government entitlements like this. I don't support him at all. Not at all. But that's dumb for her to say what she just said. It's not even remotely true. It's just a blatant lie. So I don't know. They're going to keep doing this and going back and forth on it. I'm just saying it's not going to work out well. And this is the thing I'm talking about. You can't – you're not going to lie to people about this stuff. And I don't think that it's – I don't think that they're going to win this narrative war and they're going to have to cave. I wanted to show this thread. I had this in my – last hour, but I wanted to move it, moving it over here. So there's new data out that shows that trans identification is in free fall amongst younger people. That is pretty significant because I think it's a social contagion completely. It very much is a social contagion. This is a fascinating piece. And I was reading about it. The study that they have, and the Washington Times has more on this. They had written up this study that it's just absolutely nosedived. The trend in identifying as trans. It's in a free fall. Now, Maybe if it was really a biological thing, I don't think that you would be worried about the free-fallingness of it, would you? I mean, if it's science, it's science, right? Golly, the pop-ups are crazy. Stop it. The... Basically, what they're concluding is that the identification is, quote, going out of fashion. The percentage of university students who do not identify as male or female, it said it plunged from 2023 to 2025 in three of the five surveys. And this is a professor at the University of Birmingham in England. and the director of the Center for Social Science, Heterodox Social Science. They said trans, queer, and bisexual identities are in rapid decline among young, educated Americans. The report is titled The Decline of Trans and Queer Identity Among Young Americans. It was released yesterday. Now, the data, they're talking about the... Yeah, right. The drop in trans identities. This is really what I was getting ready to say. The timing is very interesting. Kane, what has been one of the, speaking of trans, what's been one of the trans issues that's been in the headlines quite a bit?
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Well, violence in a general way, but they've been essentially the only mass shooters of note for the past couple of years.
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Kind of interesting. Yeah. They there are other by the way, there are this isn't the only survey that has shown this. There was a survey showing a decline and over Phillips Academy poll and Brown University conducted a student. They conducted a survey as well, and they concluded the same thing. So you have three independent surveys, which have all concluded that there is a not just I mean, a very precipitous drop. And they there's also sorry, there's they all these surveys also cite the first one that was done, which was the Foundation for Individual Rights and Expression. They they pulled over 50,000 50,000 college students and it's dropped by half the identification. Because it's a social contagion. And it's. Triggered in people that I think are mentally ill or that are very lonely. It's going away. Now, what's interesting is that the professor noted, because this same trend they founded at Brown University, they've been finding it and they've lost three quarters. Theirs actually went from where 5% of students said they were non-binary in 2023. Two years later, barely over 2% did. That's wildly significant. And what the survey, what they were discussing was that it is a sign, and this is what's interesting, the sentence used is, quote, a sign that fashions are changing, that trends are changing. So it's not fashionable any longer to identify as trans, to do all of the, you know, to say that you're a men saying that they're women, women saying that they're men. Now, it's not just that. They said that pansexual, asexual, and two-spirit, what are, how many were there? I don't, I almost don't want to know. I don't know. So all of the other ones.
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No one knows.
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Yeah. They said that these studies, well, of the three studies, two of them also looked at what they described as non-heterosexual definitions. Okay. Is that gay? No, it's not gay. It's all the other stuff is what they're saying. Okay. It's the two-spirit, asexual, pansexual. I don't even know what, literally, I don't even know what some of these are. I think they are just completely made up. But they said that there is a, it's not just the trans stuff. It plummeted by over 10 points, a decline in all of the other, that stuff. The pan, asexual, two, all that stuff. Isn't that interesting? Yeah, two sexes, infinite personalities. It's very interesting. Now, they also said the number of heterosexual students rose in 2025 to 77%. It was in the 60s, and it's risen to 77%. Now, here's what's interesting. Do you know what didn't change at all? I'm not trying to be mean, but I have no other way to describe it. Your basic gaze changed. The basic gays and the basic lesbians, they said, were, quote, largely stable. That was it. Nothing else changed. All the other ones changed. The trans and then the other stuff and then more heterosexual identification. Some people are saying it's an anti-woke vibe shift. But here's something else. They're trying to say also maybe it's a religious affiliation. Now, this gets into this cut that we have here. Audio, this is cut 26. Go ahead and play this. Because when we say we're in a revival, it's not a joke. Listen.
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A Christian revival across the country. Bible sales increasing over 40% since 2022. Religion app downloads surging nearly 80%. That increased since 2019. And Christian music Spotify streams up 50% from 2019. Very interesting indeed.
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Now, some are saying that another aspect of this is that there's an improvement in mental health. So youth mental illness increased really rapidly. And notice that this coincides with the rise and introduction of so many different social media platforms. It grew steadily in the 2010s. It peaked in 2021, COVID. And now it's on the decline. The first measurable, the first notice of this was towards the end of 2023. So I think that social media plus the lockdowns all contributed to a social contagion. And now we're seeing a reversal of this. Now, of course, the science is not going to be welcomed anymore. And the T, all the other letters, plus I, whatever, 2S, all that, I don't even know. It's not going to be welcome in those circles. But that is incredibly interesting. There is a monumental shift occurring. All Family Pharmacy is a family-owned business dedicated to helping you get the medications that you need when you need them the most. With over 200 essential medications, including antibiotics, antivirals, ivermectin, emergency kits, and so much more, they have you covered for everything from daily prescriptions to even biohacking support. Right now, they've lowered prices on ivermectin and minbendazole by up to 25%, starting at just $2 a capsule. Plus, save an extra 10% using code GENERAL. Each order includes a doctor's prescription, so there's no hassle or middleman. And as flu season approaches, now's the time to stock your medicine cabinet with essentials like Tamiflu, antibiotics, and vitamins to help keep you and your family healthy. And beyond basics, All Family Pharmacy offers biohacking products like NAD+, Methylene Blue, all kinds of stuff to boost energy, focus, immunity, the whole nine yards. Visit allfamilypharmacy.com slash Dana and use code DANA10 to save 10% today. Don't wait. Be ready for flu season with All Family Pharmacy. That's allfamilypharmacy.com slash Dana and use code Dana10.
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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
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Can I just say Phil Collins does not get enough love. He's the only guy who could show up looking like an IT worker and go back and jam his heart out on the drums and then like write amazing songs with fabulous harmonies and rhythms and then just hit after hit after hit. I mean, the man's a legend. Facts. No lies detected. Oh, good grief. New pandemic fears as a swine flu strain was found in ferrets and it mutates to hit humans. How do you get pig flu in a ferret and not in a person? What do you do in China? Quit being weird. Quit doing weird stuff with your animals over there. I have no idea, but I don't believe it and I don't care. Also, I don't understand having ferrets as like a pet. It's a weasel, right? Isn't it a weasel? Yeah. Are they? Don't they stink? I mean, I literally don't laugh at me, but I literally bought like dog perfume on Amazon for my dog. That's like dog friendly because I was like, he goes outside and he gets B.O. Dog B.O. And I'm like, oh, not anyway. Could never do a ferret. I don't care. I'm going to eat pork. Let's see. New York Sun revives print edition. Nobody cares. Sam Altman says chat GP. No, no, no. Chat GPT is going to get skanky. It's going to turn into a sex bot, a chat sex bot. That's disgusting.
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So not only can we get inaccurate information, but now they'll sext us too? Do we need any of this?
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No, where's the comet? Where's SMOD? Where's the sweet meteor of death? I mean, just we're begging here, please. Humans, let's see, under 50%, AI over 50%. The share of articles that have been written by humans are generated by AI. Isn't there software where you can test? that stuff and see i'm really curious i would like to do some of that like to test more than 50 of the articles online are written by ai more than 50 i can proudly say that nothing on my newsletter has ever been written by ai i i i don't tr i don't trust it and plus it's like you still would have to do the work of fact checking it right so what's the point of having ai do when you have to do all the you have to fact check it anyway But apparently articles generated by AI, a number of those written by humans. So basically, journalists are letting AI out code them. Right. That's kind of that's the truth of it. That's interesting. So they're outsourcing all their stuff to AI. That's over 50 percent. That's insane. Of news articles that you're reading, you probably read an article today without knowing that was completely AI generated. It's wild. Soon you're going to be able to shop Walmart and chat GPT. According to Wall Street Journal, that's kind of weird. I wouldn't want to do that. They're saying that retail giant signals that online shopping is about to change. They're partnering with OpenAI to allow shoppers to buy their products directly within ChatGPT. Who needs to do that? Like, what are they doing in ChatGPT that you can be interrupted and shop? I don't know. That's weird. So you're, like, researching something or studying something and then... Also, do we have to be able to shop everywhere all the time? Isn't that kind of just like fueling this consumerist kind of culture that we have? Just for heaven's sake, just stop. We don't need any of that. Coming up, ooh, Republicans. There's a little bit of a Republican fight, inner fight happening. We'll talk with the YRs. We'll talk about it coming up. Stick with us. It's Medicare enrollment season. I know you just want to throw something at the wall when you hear that because it's all anybody hears. All I hear like my folks are like, Oh my gosh, they're just besieged by texts and calls. And maybe you're getting up to where it's Medicare enrollment season for you to you maybe you've noticed an uptick in emails and texts and calls people wanting you to sign up. Here's the thing you need to work with a partner. that's going to give it to you straight, a partner that you can trust. And that's chapter. This is not gimmicks. There's no pressure. These are salaried experts. These are advisors. And they can walk you through what your options are because these plans change every year. And even if you're happy with your plan, you still have to check out what's coming for the next year. And if you don't review your options, you could lose coverage that you depend on. So the folks at Chapter review every plan nationwide, and they ensure that you are not overpaying. And on average, they're saving people over $1,000 a year. And Chapter stands out, again, because their advisors are salary. They advocate for you, not the insurance company. It is not a hassle. They can get you resolved and set in under 20 minutes. And if your current plan is still the best fit, you're all situated. If not, they'll help you switch. So honest advice. From experts who know Medicare inside and out, you got 20 minutes. It's a heck of a lot better way to spend your time than endless weeks of calls, texts, and emails. Dial pound 250 and say the words, MyMedicare. That's pound 250, say the words, MyMedicare, and work with a partner you can trust. Chapter.
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balding redheads game show wife. I'm just not fans of them. I've not been, I never really followed them. That's that Meghan Markle lady. I've never really followed them until she pulled this stunt because I don't get into British like wannabe royals or royalty. But she pulled this stunt where she went down to Uvalde. She chartered a jet, flew down to Uvalde with a camera crew and had people take pictures of her lay flowers outside that school. And after that, I was like, you are on my burnt list. Wow. That was so tacky and had a whole camera crew follow her because, you know, how can I make this about myself is what she asks herself every single day. I think that she actually is representative of a larger issue. Welcome back to the program. Dana Lash with you. Chats at Rumble Channel 347 where you can watch the radio program. So if you're unfamiliar, I think everybody knows the the prince over there, the prince and princess of Wales, they seem like decent people. They seem very nice, right? They seem like, you know, very respectable, quiet, no complainers. They just, you know, keep their heads down, kind of do the work that they're supposed to do. I guess they go and sponsor a lot of charities and do a lot of philanthropy. And then you got this who apparently has all the charities dumping him. He made a mess of Sintabale, the one charity that was over in Africa, made a mess of it to where he got accused by the people in the charity of they were trying to, I guess, use it as a mechanism to just defend and promote his wife. And then another charity said that they wanted to discontinue association with him because they basically accused him of being a colonizer. And so now he lives in California. So if you don't follow it because you have a life, let me just lay it out. So they got this Netflix deal that I think that they overinflated the check and the scope of what they were going to do in the press because they needed to desperately come out and look like they were winners in something, right? So they did this deal where they did their documentary, which it wasn't a huge hit. Like Victoria Beckham has a documentary right now that's like number one. The Beckham stuff, everything that they do is a hit. One, one, number one, number one, number one. So they did this and it didn't last very long. She did this cooking show, which didn't even take place in her house. You could tell I can watch somebody and tell if you know how to cook. A cook knows if someone can cook or not. You can watch someone prepare vegetables. You can watch and prepare meat. You can watch how they manipulate the pan and everything else. You can tell if somebody cooks. When she was chopping stuff on her show, I was terrified that she was going to cut a finger off. It was just sloppy. And you can she just got the thing because of who she married. And they're really trying to, like, make themselves really influential, not just in culture, but in politics. Remember, these are people who also they got USAID money, apparently. Their little groups got USAID money. And apparently they were also trying to add their voices to those on the left that wanted under Biden that were trying to get big tech to crack down on misinformation and disinformation and all that nonsense. And apparently they were also part of it. So fairest game, right? It's all fair game now. So anyway, she was the one who got pictured using the canning tongs incorrectly. Didn't know how to can. So I don't know what she's doing at this Fortune 500 thing. Do you know what she was doing there? Because she she what was the point of her being there? Because it was about female executives and she's never built anything. She only got where she was because she slept with the spare. And got knocked up. Let's be honest about it. I mean, that's, you know, I guess that's one way to do it. But, you know, don't sit here and call yourself a female founder when you married the money and you married the prestige. You didn't build anything for yourself. You committed the greatest sin in your glorious Steinem feminism rulebook. You didn't make it yourself. You married it. Otherwise, nobody cares. She was a zealous actress and was occasionally on a Canadian TV show. That was it. Everywhere she's got, it's everywhere she's ever gone, it's because a man put her there. Her dad put her here, a boyfriend put her there, another boyfriend put her there, and then now the husband. So she's never really built anything by herself. I mean, fine, be happy who you are, but don't sit here and pull a snow job on everybody else and act like you built it. That's not being genuine. That's not being truthful to people. But I don't know why she's there. And I think that she's indicative of a large problem with the leftist influencer psyche. I don't know. It's just a weird thing. There's more audio of her. This is... uh, cause they, they had that as ever show. And then she said, this is 20 suits is a show that no one watched and no one even knew about until she married the spare. This is cut 20.
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It's been incredible because when I was on suits, that was my last time really in a position with a very large team. We and i worked on the show for seven years and i loved the crew i love that experience and the culture that's on set as well um and so i think being able to now have my own business it's very different than being on set and even the set for with love megan that's a crew of 80 people it's still a very large crew but for my business i've been very decisive about having a lean team But that's not what she says.
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She says that she has so many people working for her, she can't fit them into her house. So she's not even consistent. And she was only ever on Suits a couple of times. She's not a business person. She white labels product, and then they purposefully restrict access to promote the falsehood of sales. So they only come out with a very limited number and then they act like, oh my gosh, demand is crazy. We sold out. It's a marketing trick. And when I say white label, everybody knows how that works, right? You have another company, another entity that already has a product and you just switch the labels out. You just white label it. Apparently she did that to her rosé and the marmalade spread that doesn't even actually use oranges. She had orange marmalade. They used frozen orange juice to make it. It's just a bunch of sugary nonsense and it's runny and it's not even actual marmalade. It's all fake. Isn't this like the whole... leftist thing. Fake, fake, fake. Everything's fake. They're going to try to sell you something that they don't actually have. This is a common theme, whether you are a leftist content creator or Democrat politician on the Hill. Is that not a common theme? But I just, I also can't stand, one of the reasons I don't like her because I hate the falseness of this content creation. So much is curated. This is why I don't do anything like this on my Instagram account. Let me give you a little insight. Our sales team is about to murder me because they, oh my gosh, God love them. But I know that they want to string me up, Cain, and you know it's true because I'm like, I'm not going to sit here and promote products and act like I'm not selling people something on Instagram. There is so much. I'm going to be real with you. There's so much money that we've turned down and because I don't need it. But also it just feels cringe. You know what I mean? It's just so cringe. Like I'm even very specific with sponsors that come into our show. And if you notice like the sponsors that are on this radio program, I've been doing radio since 2008. October 28th, 2008 was my first show. And a lot of the sponsors that we have on radio have literally been with me since the beginning. Look how long Super Beats has been with me. Look how long Patriot Mobile has been with me. We develop real relationships with these people, but we also have a very high bar of who we work with. And it really aggravates some of the folks in sales. God love them because they're, you know, they're all about selling and that's how we pay for this. That's why you don't have to pay a subscription fee. That's why you're watching for free right now. And You know, the chat can come together and they have that community. And, you know, the rest of us, you know, we can sit down and chill out and talk, you know, three hours a day every day. Well, we're very particular about it because I just think it's just cringe and it doesn't serve anyone to do it otherwise. This is like the consumerist culture. You want to look like you are a cook or a little homemaker or whatever, and she doesn't do it so it doesn't come off as being genuine. It doesn't come off as being authentic. And then if you criticize it or point out this truth, then the accusations fly at you. Like there's something wrong with you because you don't accept this obvious marketing attempt. You don't accept it as being authentic, so the problem is you. I can't stand that. It is just this gaslighting that's in politics. It's in consumerism. It's in arts and entertainment. It's everywhere. It's just so false. It's so ridiculous. So, yeah, we have a like we have a high bar with what we work with. And this is why I don't like doing this content stuff on Instagram. I allowed we have a great social media team. And so you might have noticed if you follow me for any period of time. Now they post videos from the show and they do things like that. And that's fine. But I have a major problem with like pushing product. We did this experiment one time I did. And I didn't even get paid off of it. I just wanted to offer something because the audience can be very picky. It was this candle company that was based in New Orleans. And they happened to notice that I liked one of their products. And they said, hey, if you would make a post about us, we'll give everybody that buys through using your code 20% off. And I'm like, oh, that's like a nice thing to do for everybody. And everyone's like, what is this? All the comments were, what is this? Are you going to start promoting products now? And I'm like, no, I just they literally offer to do something nice for people. So it was the last time I did it because everybody was so suspicious of it. They were like, what is this? And it literally I didn't make a dime. I've never, ever made a dime off a product on Instagram. I've never done any of that stuff. And they were so suspicious of it. So I never I was like, I just wanted to give you 20 percent off. They thought it was a nice thing. There's their stuff is made in the USA. I'm not going to do it again. Don't worry. But it's weird. And I just I don't know. I just don't get into that. Also, I think a lot of the things with the Harry and Meghan thing. And again, you don't have to get into British royalty, isn't it? Also, on a different scale, a representation of the crassness of progressive culture and then the politeness and well-mannered nature of a more traditional culture on display. Doesn't it seem that way? I mean, I think that it's a Rorschach test. How you feel about them is a Rorschach test for sure. But I have no idea why she's doing these things. And she tried meeting Kamala Harris, remember? And they acted like it was a big thing that they were endorsing Kamala Harris. And she signs all of her stuff with Duchess. We don't have royalty over here. We don't do that. We don't do stupid titles. We don't do the hereditary stuff over here. I get it that nouveau riche people are obsessed with that stuff. We don't do that over here. This is the United States of America. I don't know. I find them incredibly annoying. I find her fake mannerisms insufferable. The products are just bad. It's bad stuff. I can't imagine white labeling something like that and then selling it like you put your heart and soul into it. It's just false. You guys don't have to worry about that with anybody here. Although you may want to tell my sales team about it because they get aggravated with us. God love them. All right. We got more on the way. We got Florida man coming up as we move our partners. This is a company. I think it's smart to diversify your, what you have as a, defensive tools. And I've told you guys a million times, I carry all the time. I have zero issue with using lethal force to protect myself or a loved one. 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SPEAKER 16 :
It's his life mission to make bad decisions. It's time for Florida Man.
SPEAKER 20 :
Okay, so this is crazy. People get nuts in parking lots. I mean, I think everybody knows this. A Florida man struck a pregnant woman with his car over a parking space dispute. This is crazy. So he was arrested. This was a winery and restaurant in Coconut Creek. And so according to the probable cause arrest affidavit, the woman was leaving the restaurant. She had to carry some items from inside to her car. Her husband went to get the car so he could move to a parking spot in front of the building. She was standing in the spot as her husband was driving around while the defendant, 45-year-old Brian Papula, pulled up in his car. the victim told him that she was saving the spot for her husband who was driving around but he shook his head and proceeded to pull forward the car struck her knee he actually hit her in the knee which forced her to move back and she lost a shoe and she said that if she hadn't moved he would have run her over paramedics responded to the scene but she didn't need to go to the hospital uh pabla told cops that he moved forward at a quote slow speed and the and he told her you can't save spots So after parking his vehicle, he walked into a restaurant and he said he was in a rush. So Broward County Sheriff's arrested him on one kind of aggravated battery on a pregnant person. He was taken to jail. He's since posted 5000 bond. I if I was the husband, I'd beaten his ass right there in the parking lot. Because that's insane. First off, yes, it's tacky to say parking spots, but that's a woman and she was visibly pregnant. And he's a 45 year old man who has no problems walking under his own strength. Be the gentleman. Or if you can't be the gentleman, then tell yourself you're going to be the bigger person and just don't do stuff like this. You know, I mean, he ought to be he's lucky that she wasn't carrying because she would have been within her rights, in my estimation, to draw on him because you're threatening her with a weapon, which is your vehicle. And there's a reason why vehicular manslaughter and charges involving vehicles with injuring people is actionable, are actionable offenses. So this guy's lucky that that's all he got. What a D-bag. That's insane. Be smarter than that guy. Good grief. People are stupid. Let's see. So this, I got to talk about this lady just because of her lashes. Kane, I just need you to get a gander at them lashes. Okay, we're going to try this lady's name here. So she got arrested in connection with at least three bad date Rolex theft cases. So apparently she dates rich dudes and steals her watch. One guy had his Rolex watch and a Versace gold chain valued at $14,000 stolen. So her name is Antronasia.
SPEAKER 16 :
Antronasia.
SPEAKER 20 :
I think that's right.
SPEAKER 16 :
Or Antronasia. I don't know. Antronasia probably.
SPEAKER 20 :
Antronasia. It looks like she cut a spider in half and then glued each of the spider side to her eyes because those lashes are out of control. Anyway, she's from Miami Gardens, 24 years old. She apparently meets with these gents and steals their stuff. So, men, don't be hoes, okay? Just don't be like that, and you won't find yourself with questionable, with women of ill repute who are going to steal you of your jewels.
SPEAKER 16 :
She just doesn't steal. It's like these guys end up severely passed out. Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER 20 :
Some ripnol or whatever they call it. Yeah, yeah. They put them to sleepy sleep and then take all their stuff.
SPEAKER 16 :
She's pulling a Cosby on these guys.
SPEAKER 20 :
pulling a Cosby. And a Florida man was arrested for calling 911 five times in one day. You can't do that, especially when you just want to complain about stuff in your neighborhood. And that's what this feller did. We'll talk more about that tomorrow. Stick with us. Third hour on the way. The folks over at Super Beats who have been a really longtime supporter, like such a longtime supporter of the show that some people are like, wait a minute, you're the Beats person. Well, yeah. And I take them and they're good. And they have a lot of other benefits that I can't say to because they didn't pay a hush money to the FDA. I don't know if I can say that or not, but I did. Anyway, the company behind it, Human, they're based in Austin, Texas. They partner with UT. They work with the Health Science Center. It's all built on real cardiovascular research around blood flow and nitric oxide. And it's all very, very science-based, like actual science, not pretend science where something pretends it's something else. And you can actually feel it working. UT athletes use Super Beats. In fact, some of your favorite teams probably use it as well. There's over 160 college and pro teams. that actually use humans' products. And so, like I said, your favorite team probably does too. It's all about heart healthy energy without the crash, plant-based, no stimulants, no artificial sweeteners or colors, and clinically studied. Recommended by doctors, including mine, pharmacists and cardiologists, more so than any other beat brand. Pick up Super Beats at your local Walmart and start supporting your cardiovascular health today. Get on the road to better health with Super Beats from Human.
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Thank you. So the answer to my question is yes. Under that scenario, someone could they get their driver's license again because we give them to anybody here they register to vote it doesn't match with the social security number so they're flagged but they come in as long as they have an id which is that driver's license and they sign that they're you know eligible to vote they can vote and they're then no longer flagged they're on the system is that correct mr linnell
SPEAKER 11 :
Madam Chair, if I could add the, and maybe stepping back from those that are flagged as CID on the roster, for anyone that's presenting documentation to register to vote, that is affirmation of their identity. The driver's license has not been used as proof of citizenship for the purposes of registering to vote. It's affirming that they are who they say they are. So in any of these cases where someone were to cast a ballot if they were ineligible to vote, There are also reports that are generated post-election for voters that are challenged that counties will run to show status of voters that have been updated due to the fact that they've now cast a ballot that can be reviewed and referred to the county attorney.
SPEAKER 13 :
Okay, so the answer is yes to my question.
SPEAKER 20 :
Yeah, she is. So that that was Patty Anderson, who is a representative. And this is it's Minnesota. That accent. I love the accent. And so this is the Minnesota. The person being questioned was the Minnesota elections director, Paul Linnell. And he is admitting in the audio that you just heard that illegal aliens can vote in state elections with a driver's license. I mean, he had some Kamala word salad, but yes, they can. And he had no objection to that. And that was a law that was that is a loophole made possible, by the way, by Tim Walls. Welcome back to the program. Top of this third hour. Dana Lynch with you. Chats at Rumble. Sub stack, chapter and verse. Find us at YouTube, Facebook, also Channel 347, DirecTV, so you can watch us do the radio program. Well, that's not, yeah, that, well, we knew that. And they want them to vote. They want them to. That's their whole, that's the whole strategy. And this was part of their House Fraud Prevention and State Agency Oversight Policy Committee. And they were doing an overview over election registrations. And he he had to say, well, I guess, you know, yes, my answer answer to my question answer that question is yes. I mean, he had to and she's and he just had a bunch of word salad. And I mean, that's it. So she she's like, yes. So the answer is yes. That's true. Yeah. Now, what dovetails into this? I wanted to point this out because there's a lot of discussion over this. We were talking about this over break. So yesterday it came out that the State Department is going to revoke visas for of the individuals that were celebrating the murder of Charlie Kirk. Right. And they're kicking out a number of foreigners, visiting foreigners on visas for doing so. They were they were tweeting this stuff out on their account. State Department was they gave an example of an Argentinian national. That said Kirk, quote, devoted his entire life to spreading racist, xenophobic, misogynistic rhetoric and deserves to burn in hell. And they they they have screenshots of these things and they put visa revoked, visa revoked. South African national said he, quote, was used to astroturf a movement of white nationalist trailer trash and quote visa revoked. and going through all of this. Now, a lot of people, and I noticed it's capital L libertarians, I guess, that were saying, well, this is, if you're tweeting something that is considered offensive to people in positions of power and you're being kicked out, well, that's tyranny. That's, you know, that's a speech code. That's anti-free speech. Here's my problem with that. And I, Yes, I'm well aware of what the left has done to the right. Probably more than a lot of people trying to ask me that question. I don't know if you've been professionally irrevocably harmed by your government, but I have. I've had sitting members of Congress call me a domestic terrorist and call for the FBI to raid my home. So, yeah, I kind of know what that's like. Here's the issue, though. You're not talking about citizens. you are discussing foreigners. I don't like this move to extend the natural rights of Americans to those people who are merely visiting the United States. It is not, and the best way I can explain this is, do you think that visitors to the United States have Second Amendment rights? Do you believe that that natural right extends to absolutely everybody, regardless of whether they're a citizen or not? And I mean, there's several ways you can answer this. But for the purpose of this discussion, if you don't extend two way, then why is one a different? Does that make sense? Does that make sense, Kane? I feel like that that's a fair way to ask.
SPEAKER 16 :
Absolutely. Absolutely.
SPEAKER 20 :
Because it's. It's not like a universally codified thing.
SPEAKER 16 :
Nope. It's up to their governments to codify that.
SPEAKER 20 :
Right.
SPEAKER 16 :
We have our natural rights that we've recognized, and then our government is set up in order to codify those rights. That's literally how it goes. So if our Secretary of State decides that somebody else outside of the United States, a foreigner...
SPEAKER 20 :
may or may not mess things up here or cause issues here that's the secretary of state's absolute right to deny them their visa that's the bottom line and also isn't it we there's so many criticisms of the united states particularly by europeans they're like oh well they're nation builders so they're involved in everything even though they we usually come at their invitation correct So are they also demanding that we provide, facilitate and protect like we are obligated to extend the natural rights of American citizens to everybody else in the world? I mean, you're literally then saying that we are the world's police force, in effect, by doing that. And I bring this up because I just find flaws in the argument that people who are visiting here have the same protections of speech as the people who are citizens of here, citizens of the United States. If you want to have those rights affirmed, you have to be a citizen in my estimation. If you want those rights affirmed, you have to be a citizen. if you are a visitor here, just as a visitor in any other nation, there are certain things that you are not allowed to do because you are not a citizen of that nation. We don't want a bunch of, you know, illiterate revolutionaries here in the United States spouting off and et cetera, et cetera.
SPEAKER 16 :
We got enough of that in the last four years.
SPEAKER 20 :
Yeah, exactly. But when you have people who are cheering for the death of someone and they are visiting here, we are not obligated to entertain their non-existent right to be idiots. We don't owe them anything. I don't know where we get this. I don't know. Where do we get this idea that we owe anyone anything? We don't owe a visitor a singular damned thing. Not a thing. Be a decent guest. That seems to be the only thing. I don't know. I mean, there's a reason why inalienable is used, and there's a reason why these were afforded to citizens, and this was something that was affirmed repeatedly by the founders. And that's the way it is.
SPEAKER 16 :
I'm sorry. The outrage on the left about this, it rings hollow to me because I just dropped a story, and this was from 2012. Now, remember, Hillary Clinton was Secretary of State during Obama's terms. And she denied Cubans U.S. visas, not because they had anything nefarious about the United States. It's because they love freedom.
SPEAKER 20 :
But if you don't have a right to be here, then what makes you think that you have a right to the rights of people who do? Does that make sense? Now, I want to I want to dovetail this story because I see a lot of people doing it with this thing that came out on Politico. So if you've seen the Politico story about all of the texts and the tweets or the texts, if you're unfamiliar, the headline is, I love Hitler. Leaked messages expose young Republicans' racist chats. Thousands of private messages reveal young GOP leaders joking about gas chambers, slavery, and rape. I will say that from what I understand, this is a faction of the YRs that's kind of New York-based, and they're a little bit problematic. I know a lot of people that have had dust-ups with them, and from my understanding, is that this was leaked to the press because there is a power struggle between one of the worst of them and the other ones. So just so you have some insight into that. Now, that being said, a lot of people have jumped up and said, this is bad. They shouldn't be saying this stuff. Just as I wouldn't vote for Jay Jones for saying that he wanted to kill someone's kids, I would not vote for anybody who is so stupid that they would put stuff like this in the written word with their name attached to it and send it. They're called YRs for a reason. Young Republicans who apparently haven't spent enough time in the world where they don't do stupid ass things like this and put their names on it. First off, do I think that these people are actual Nazis? I don't know all of the people involved in it. Maybe some of them are. Hell, I don't know. I'm not I don't know. I don't know all the names in this. Some of it looks like it was dark humor that they were leaning into. But still, regardless, this was dumb to put into words. One of the things that some of y'all people in politics need to understand is that you never, don't think that you can use Telegram or anything else, any other signal or anything else. There will always be a way to take a screenshot. Never put anything in print that you don't ever want to have to defend. That's rule number one. And the fact that so many people were doing this, there are a lot of young Republicans that do not have the political acumen to be at that level. That's stupid. You never put your name on stuff like this and you never write it in a text thread. The hell's the matter with you? That's number one. Number two, don't be the left. We got enough of this junk on the left. We have actual anti-Semites on the left. We have people that were trying to spy on Jews who were simply worshiping during COVID. We have leftists that were running after Jewish students on college campuses. I mean, for crying out loud, there were leftists like Zoran Mandani who supports Hamas and would not refuse to condemn from the river to the sea or global intifada. refused to condemn any of it. One of the reasons why so many people are leaving the left is because of stuff like this. Do not mimic it under any circumstances. Good heavens. But I think also with this, there's, I think some people are so far removed from some of this stuff that they don't realize the wound that it picks at by even so much as joking about it right no one wants to be speech police but no one wants stupid people involved at the highest levels of political circles don't be stupid never text stuff that you feel that you would have to defend never put it in writing and hit send And if you are in your late 20s or early 30s and you haven't learned that lesson yet, you are too dumb to be in politics. And just like I wouldn't support Jay Jones, I wouldn't support any of these clowns either. Good grief. There's, I think, a difference in motive. Jay Jones was seething and enraged. I think these people were being idiots. And there's no excuse for it. Don't be stupid. There's no excuse to be that stupid. As we move, our partners that help bring you the program, Caltech's KS7 Gen 2 shotgun. It's one of the newest ones that they've made. It's on the popular KS7 platform. The Gen 2 is packed with all kinds of upgrades. You have a five-slot Picatinny style rail that lets you add vertical grips, lights. You can keep it flush and sleek with a cap if you want. It's a smoother pump action for faster, cleaner cycling. And you also have enhanced durability. Ultra lightweight. It's just under seven pounds unloaded. Compact bullpup design so you have maneuverability and tight spaces. ambidextrous downward shell ejection, and a 7 plus 1 capacity for stopping power. And MSRP makes it affordable at just $639. So it brings all of that well within reach. It's from Kel-Tec, K-E-L-T-E-C, weapons.com, made here in the USA. That's keltecweapons.com. Tell them Dana sent you.
SPEAKER 16 :
And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
SPEAKER 20 :
So normal people get souvenirs. This German woman stole the top of an ancient column in Olympia like 50 years ago, and she's returned it to Greece. According to the Greek culture ministry, it was the capital. They're called the it's like the little bases of them are called capitals of the column. It's made of limestone. 9 inches high, 13 inches wide. She took it from this, like, 4th century guest house. And they praised the sensitivity and courage of the woman. What a weird thing to take. Right? Like... I don't know. Yeah, she had it for a really long time. Was it really courageous that she turned it back now? I don't know. Very interesting. Let's see. Parts of the U.S. are already getting major snowfall. I can't even imagine. I don't do well in cold or snow or anything like that. Blew it past. That sounds funny. In Washington, it was closed already to heavy snowfall, disabled semis, and collisions. They're already having to plow the roads. I would die. It's October 15th. I mean, it's 90 degrees. It's 80, almost 90 degrees here in Texas today. I couldn't live. Those people probably couldn't live with the heat, though. You know, I mean, I think about it because they wear shorts when it's 50. And I'm like, that's when you have turtlenecks and blankets and, you know, fires and all that stuff. Let's see. A California engineer wins a pumpkin contest with a 2346 pound gourd. You said that looks GMO-ish to you.
SPEAKER 16 :
I would imagine there's some genetic modification going on.
SPEAKER 20 :
It looks fake. What do you do with a pumpkin that big? Because it's probably not anything you can eat.
SPEAKER 16 :
Maybe the seeds? I don't know.
SPEAKER 20 :
Don't know how that works. Like, it's very large. Oh, goodness. Let's see. This apparently bears in Japan. Now, that's not something that I'd think about. But apparently it's becoming a little bit frequent when people are coming across them when they're out and walking around in nature. There was a couple in the Gunma Prefecture that were attacked by a bear. 76-year-old. They called their version of 911 around 6 a.m. He had been bitten on his left hand. His 69-year-old wife was with him, and she was bitten on her left arm and thigh. They were taken to the hospital, treated for their injuries. I just feel like they were probably very polite about it, you know, in Japan. Like, please no, don't bite us, Mr. Bear. I don't know. It just seems that way. Coming up. A teacher in Winter Garden, Florida, was told to take down. This is a very interesting thing. Well, we're going to talk with him because they've had an issue with free speech in their classroom. Stick with us. So you guys remember the panic buying of 2020 when. everyone was rushing to get French toast supplies, toilet paper, and all of the ammo that they did not really necessarily didn't want to leave for anybody else. Okay, we all remember that. There's a smarter way to stay prepared. Ammo squared is America's ammunition reserve. It is a worry-free solution to collect ammunition for the future and avoid being caught empty-handed. You can choose from over 70 calibers. You can set your monthly budget, let Ammo Squared curate your supply automatically, set it, forget it, ship it when you need it. They have a secure climate-controlled facility. You can keep your ammo fresh and safe until you decide to get it delivered. There's no minimums, no hidden fees. You get free shipping on orders over $250. It's great if you're trying out new calibers, if you're just topping off some training rounds, which we do. And you just stay ready for whatever comes next. There's over 100,000 members of this community, and they got thousands of five-star reviews. So your readiness is Animal Squared's mission. Visit AnimalSquared.com and secure that animal supply for the future. Do not run out when it counts. Seriously, there's no reason. Stock up before training and restock after to stay ready. It's AnimalSquared.com. Spell out square like I needed to tell you that. And be sure to mention you heard about it on the Dana Show.
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SPEAKER 20 :
Welcome back to the program. Dana Lash here with you at the bottom of this third hour. You can listen terrestrially, coast to coast. We're in every state in the union, as well as stream the radio program, Channel 347, DirecTV, the chats at Rumble. We're on X, Facebook, everywhere else. Now... One of the things that I think we've seen a lot of, especially I was talking yesterday on Fox about the Loudoun County School District and all this stuff and the things that they've been putting up with in Virginia. It's always nice when you have teachers that are very encouraging and they are open to I mean, they don't really put it this way. Police politically, ideologically, if that makes sense. And I was reading this story over at Not the Bee about a teacher in Orange County, Florida, who, after our friend Charlie Kirk was assassinated, placed a poster in his classroom that simply shared a very uplifting quote. Here's the poster in question. And it's Charlie. And the quote says, never underestimate the power of your voice and the impact you can have on the world when you speak up for what you believe in. So there's nothing wrong with that, right? That's a great quote. There's nothing that is partisan about this. There is nothing that is inflammatory about this. I mean, this is one of the most innocuous things that you could put up in the classroom. What are people taking exception with the power of your voice or using it to speak up for things in which you believe? Well, apparently one student thought so. And so this teacher who had this poster in their classroom, William Loggins, he's a social studies teacher at Horizon High School in Orange County. There was a student, a singular student, who took issue. And, of course, they said what you would imagine they would say. They said that Charlie Kirk is, quote, a Nazi and a fascist, end quote. And the poster would have to come down. I feel bad for the teacher in the instance because he's there to teach social studies, not basic English and definition of words. So the principal at that time was outside the classroom when the student made the comment and he had originally said, don't worry about it. But then there was reason for him to worry about it. He had to remove the poster. It was considered divisive. Joining us now in video is that professor, William Loggins. He's a teacher at the Horizon High School in Winter Garden, Florida. He is the teacher who put up the poster in question as well as the Lake County commissioner. Anthony Sabatini, who has been talking about this story and is now involved in working with a teacher on this. Welcome to both of you, Anthony and William. It's a pleasure to have you on the show. William, let me just start with you. This poster, there's nothing wrong with it. It's an uplifting quote. It's about as innocuous as the kitten that hangs on to the branch and says, you know, hang in there. I mean, it's just one of those things. typical classroom posters. And from my understanding, you also feature posters and quotes of Martin Luther King Jr. and Rosa Parks and, you know, everybody of every background from what I've read. But there was exception taken specifically to this. Tell me tell me some insight on this.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, like you mentioned, I do put a lot of inspirational quotes up in my classroom and You know, I've been teaching now for about eight years and I've been in Orange County School District for four years now. And lately, the last couple of years, it just seems like I've just I've been very encouraged with this upcoming generation. I mean, they seem to hunger for information and for inspiration. And I see that a lot of my students, I teach a law class, comprehensive law honors class. And we're actually been learning about the Bill of Rights, the Constitution, the First Amendment especially. And so this was just after Charlie Kirk was assassinated, I saw this poster and I said, you know, that would make a good inspirational quote to put up in my room. And when I put it up, there was a lot of positive feedback from a lot of students. And, you know, and I've gotten since then, I've gotten questions about why is it not there anymore? You know, I've been teaching them about the First Amendment and they're wondering why did I have to remove that poster?
SPEAKER 20 :
Wow. And so they're all aware of it. And the article that I was referring to, they said the principal at the time told you it was a complaint from a student. Don't worry about it. Other teachers have similar posters. But then you did have to worry about it.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, the principal, you know, he told me, I actually, I stepped out in the hall and told him that I had a complaint about the poster. And he told me, you know, don't worry about it. We have, you know, we have inspirational posters from all kinds of people. So, but then a few days later, he visits my classroom. He said that the student had sent an email to him to complain. So he had to forward it to the district for advice. And of course, they they told him that I would have to remove it.
SPEAKER 20 :
And they were saying it was a political in nature. Anthony Sabatini is also joining us. And Anthony works at the Sabatini law firm. He also works as an attorney and county commissioner of Lake County, Florida. Anthony, this you're the attorney here. So you enlighten us because it doesn't that's not a political poster. There's no political message in this that so that in my estimation, my non lawyerly mind, I'm looking at this thinking there's no violation of contractor school policy here.
SPEAKER 10 :
absolutely not they have policies uh bill knows the policies we all know the policies and there's no violation of the policy this is just classic viewpoint discrimination this is straight up looking and saying hey that's a picture of charlie kirk we don't like charlie kirk so you have to remove that it's purely because they don't like his political views etc and so uh even though the views aren't even expressed on the poster this is not a partisan poster it's not a republican poster in fact it's like you mentioned innocuous inspirational very simple quote so they're just pinpointing uh people in society that they don't like and the fact that they're doing this quite literally right after he was brutally murdered in the most significant political assassination in decades makes it even more crass so we've already filed a grievance with the school system we're waiting to hear what they're going to say hopefully they let him put this poster back up but if they don't we definitely have grounds for a First Amendment retaliation lawsuit because they're just limiting his speech because they don't like his selection of posters. And it's just totally absurd. You know, this is Orange County. This is one of the few blue counties left in the state of Florida. It's been problematic for the governor and for the legislature. and they're just if it's not this it's another thing they're costly violating the law they're costly targeting people who don't conform apparent to the radical left-wing agenda as you as we spoke about earlier I'm this same school district although it's got this on its face neutral policy that says no political symbols no political figures they're allowing all types of partisan political symbols and figures in the in the classroom they're putting up posters up rainbow flags and pride flags all throughout the campus. But apparently a picture of Charlie Kirk is a stretch too far.
SPEAKER 20 :
To your point on that, one, if we could throw up this element here, because this is on, is this currently, Kane, on their website, the Orange County Public Schools? So on their website, just literally right before both of you gentlemen joined, this image is currently on the website, LGBTQ+, Awareness History Month. That seems... like a direct political proclamation. So how, I'm trying to understand, I don't think they have a legal argument here, Anthony.
SPEAKER 10 :
No, I don't think they have any law on their side. But what you'll find with these local governments is attorneys, in this case, the school board attorney, are willing to put forth a bunch of gobbledygook, goofy letterhead sort of nonsense saying that they're justifying what they're doing. Why? Because they know that they'll be fired by the board if they don't. If this school board attorney said, hey, you have a right to do that. This radical school board would probably make a motion to fire her immediately. And so, you know, you see that a lot in local government. But once they're challenged and a judge steps in, usually that's what is necessary to correct the situation. And we'll see what happens with the grievance we file. But if they don't do the right thing at that stage, they're going to lose at the next stage.
SPEAKER 20 :
Wow. And William, I'm sure I would hope that you've heard from other students who did have an alternate point of view from the one student that complained using that very incendiary language. You know, he's a Nazi, he's a fascist, etc. Did you hear from other students who had very different ideas about the matter?
SPEAKER 09 :
Yes, absolutely. In fact, several of my students are wanting to start a chapter of Turning Point USA at our school. The principal encouraged me to do so, to get it done. So I have a student that has applied for that. I know that since the assassination, they're pretty much flooded with applications. So it may take a while. So I requested, along with some students, if we could start a different club that's similar to what Turning Point USA stands for. Because I have a lot of seniors and, you know, I hate for them to miss out. And those mostly seniors are the ones who are wanting this club. And so I talked to him about maybe we could start something for the meantime until we get our chapter of Turning Point USA, then we can dissolve this club into the, just have the Turning Point USA club.
SPEAKER 20 :
That's pretty amazing. And as you noted, yeah, they've had, I think, what is it, over 400-something percent increase in applications to create these clubs. For those just joining us, we're talking with a teacher at a Florida school district who has filed a grievance against the school because they would not allow a poster. Very uplifting, very motivational quote, Charlie Kirk, but then they have the pride flags and the trans flags and the all-gender flags. Anthony, I don't know if there's – what legal perspective – couldn't be invoked here, but you have one student who complained. And as William is saying, it sounds like that one student is outnumbered by all of the students who are saying they liked it and therefore they even want to create this club now at their school. I mean, surely the district can be prevailed upon to recognize, as you were saying, that it is viewpoint discrimination.
SPEAKER 10 :
Absolutely. That's exactly what this is. And, you know, it's important to note that, yeah, they're using one student's complaint out of thousands. This is a very large high school, too, by the way, in West Orange County, out of thousands of students who attend the school. But that's really meant as a pretext. They use it as an excuse. Oh, one student complained. Really, the complaint is coming from the administration. And likely the school board who were obviously extremely hostile to anyone who's even faintly seen as conservative or even moderate. I mean, you got the bleeding heart, giant LGBTQ flag all over the website, blasting it in your face. But this very small poster among many in one classroom of one high school in one of the largest counties in the state. uh apparently is is a problem so clearly viewpoint discrimination coming from the board we're going to be sending this to the new education commissioner in the state of florida who's been great on this issue so far of fairness for teachers who want to display posters that i think are you know obviously good And the other thing I would just mention about this is, you know, Charlie Kurchis yesterday won the presidential medal for freedom. Only 700 people have done that. He's objectively a great and inspiring person for the younger generation. So I just think it's particularly evil, actually, for them to try to go out of their way to remove this poster when they have so many other problems in the public school system today.
SPEAKER 20 :
That's a great point. Last question for you, William. Well, I'm also going to ask how far you all are going to fight with us, too. But I would imagine this is such an amazing learning opportunity as well for your students to say nothing of the incorrect usage of the invectives that the that the student who was complaining was was using to describe the poster. But your students are watching you stand up for. free speech rights, because obviously this is meant to have a chilling effect, not just on you, but also for all of the students that are in your classroom, all of the students that are in that district, something of which I'm sure you're very well aware.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah. And, you know, especially with my law students that, you know, we talk about Tinker versus Des Moines and we talk about different things about the First Amendment and their student rights and everything. And it's just, you know, you can you can imagine how confusing this is for them. Their teacher can't even put up a poster with an inspirational quote from someone as well known and respected as Charlie Kirk.
SPEAKER 20 :
Anthony, how far will this go?
SPEAKER 10 :
I think this will, I hate to say it and I want to forecast, but I think this does end up in court because if they don't step down and fix it, let them have the poster go up. I think there's one more step in the administrative remedies that we're allowed. And then after that, we am standing to file a lawsuit and we will file a lawsuit if they don't allow him to put this poster back in. So that could be in the next couple of weeks, could be much quicker. We'll find out. We'll be sure to let you know as soon as we make our decision.
SPEAKER 20 :
Yes, thank you for that. I very much want to continue following this story because this is so much more than just a poster, as everybody knows. And I hate that you have to go through this. William Loggins, I so appreciate you helping to shape the young minds and shepherding the next generation and for your fortitude and willingness to fight this because this will have a precedent for a lot of other individuals. And And Anthony, for you taking this on and being so vocal in this fight and so ferocious necessarily about it. Grateful to both of you. And please keep us updated. We're going to follow it. And I hopefully I mean, I can't believe I have to say hopefully you should prevail. So we're going to continue following this story. And we'd love to have you both back. Thank you both so much for what you do. We're grateful. God bless you. Thank you.
SPEAKER 24 :
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SPEAKER 20 :
Kim Kardashian is trending because she came out with underwear that... has so there's a there's a term for it in like movies and I only know this because one of my friends works as a director of photography for film and they whenever there are like certain scenes they use a thing it's like a toupee for that area let's do that it is a private part toupee And they call it a merkin. And Kim Kardashian has come out with underwear that incorporates it. Kane, are you okay over there?
SPEAKER 16 :
I'm not.
SPEAKER 20 :
You can blame Steve for this one. It's okay. I'm not okay at all. It literally, the, I don't understand this. I don't even want to tell you what it's called. What's it called, Kane? A merkin? No, no, no. What's the product called? Oh.
SPEAKER 16 :
Don't tell me. I'm not saying... Steve, tell everybody what it is.
SPEAKER 20 :
He's not going to do it. They called it the ultimate bush, is what they said. And they call it their most daring panty yet. And it's literally a pair of underwear that has... Looks like a craft project that went horribly wrong. That's all I'm going to say. I don't know what the purpose of that is. It gives the whole lyric, boots with the fur, a whole new meaning. All right, today in stupidity.
SPEAKER 16 :
We don't have time to play this now, but let's just make that Merkin thing the ultimate Bush thing today in stupidity. That's stupid.
SPEAKER 20 :
I am without words. Guys, it was the news cycle that did this to you, not me. And maybe Kane and Steve, so blame them. Substack, find us. There's no way to end this. YouTube, Facebook, we're just going to say a prayer for everybody and wash our eyes with eye bleach. I'll be back with you tomorrow. God bless.
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In this episode of Mobile Estate Planning, Michael Bailey delves into the critical aspects of ensuring your estate is properly managed and protected for the future. Through engaging anecdotes and expert advice, Michael highlights the importance of a sound estate plan and the peace of mind it can offer you and your loved ones. From discussing the aftermath of neglected planning to the specifics of trusts and wills, Michael's insights make complex legal processes accessible and actionable.
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Welcome to Mobile Estate Planning with your host, Michael Bailey. Over a decade ago, attorney Michael Bailey turned his attention to estate law after he recognized the unacceptable number of adults without proper end of life planning. Michael recognizes that many of his clients have difficulty finding the time for making a proper estate plan. That's why he became the Mobile Estate Planner. He will go to wherever you are to assist you with your estate planning, including writing wills, trusts, and giving you the information you need to avoid probate. Now, ATX, Ask the Experts, presents Mobile Estate Planning with your host, Michael Bailey.
SPEAKER 01 :
All right, good afternoon. Welcome to Mobile Estate Planning with Michael Bailey here on 560 KLZ AM, also heard on 100.7 FM or the KLZ 560 radio app. Phone number to talk to me on the air is 303-477-5600. And again, that's 303-477-5600. And my direct line is 720-394-6887. And once again, 720-394-6887. So if we're, you know, we're here to talk about estate planning. So as the song says to leave, you know, leave, do something besides leave your family just alone. Just because we want to, you know, We don't want to leave your family a mess. And I've actually had a couple of people this last week who came to meet with me because they were left with a mess and they would not want to leave the rest of their family with a mess. One, he came to visit me. He said, well, you know, my mom died about two years ago and it was unexpected. And she didn't have anything in place. And so we're just now figuring out what it is that we want to do. There's now kind of coming to the end of two years of figuring out who gets what and who they can put, who's going to actually get the assets and getting them all distributed out. So it took a couple of years to go through all of the... necessary steps and work their way through all of the different computations and permutations of who was supposed to get what and all of those type of things. And he was just saying that he really wanted to avoid that, you know, so that when he died, he wanted to pass things on to his kids without them needing to go through all of the court process and all of the trying to figure out and decipher what the default rules were. and all of that. And I sat there and I agreed with him. I said, Yep, that's a really good idea. Let's talk about what you want to do and let's figure out what you want to do. And then we can from there, we can say, OK, this is what you want to do. How can we make that happen? Because most of the things that people want to do, we can make happen. Not always. There's a few exceptions. And sometimes people will come to me and they'll want to do things one way, which I think is a little bit... I think everybody comes to estate planning from the background that they have. And so they're certainly trying to figure everything out in a way that makes sense to them. So... People who I meet who are engineers, they tend to want to be very detail oriented. They want to have all of the, you know, everything laid out and all of the benefits and cost benefit analysis and, you know, pros and cons and everything all laid out for them. And then they can, you know, go through and pick and choose which pros and cons they like and tell me, hey, this is what we want. Well, sometimes that works. Sometimes it doesn't. I have some people who come to me who have clearly been in management type of positions. And so they're pretty sure they're in charge of everything, including the meeting that we're having. And so... You know, I spent a lot of time listening to them and trying to kind of guide them in the correct direction. But sometimes every once in a while, there's a person who's pretty sure that they know more than me. And I'm like, okay, cool. Then if you know all of that, go for it. By all means. But I need you to tell me how to do things. I'm like, yeah. So there's a little bit of a dichotomy there. Some people come to me like, oh, I don't know anything about this, so just tell me what I need to know and what I need to do. And so if I start to do that, they're like, well, no, because of this, this, this, and this, and I think this, and I'm like, okay. So when you said you don't know anything about it, and you need me to tell you what to do, apparently what you meant was, I hope that you tell me the right things that I will like or understand, and then we can do that. So every once in a while, someone will call and will ask me a question. And they'll be like, oh, well, what are the rules on this? And so I'll explain them to them. They'll be like, oh, well, I like what you're saying. I'm like, well, if you didn't like what I was saying, I've not elected anything. There's not a whole lot I can do differently. But I did have somebody the other day who, They were somewhat miffed at me that I had not. And I think this was an engineer type of discussion. They're like, well, you know, you asked us questions, you asked us what we wanted to do. And then, you know, we've got this document. It's a great document. But, you know, we need your advice on, you know, the pros and cons of everything we're doing. So, you know, if we could just go through this entire document. And then you can tell us the pros and cons of everything. I'm like, I'm not trying to not answer your question. I want to answer your questions. But going through a 25-page long trust document line by line and explaining the pros and cons of every single line, every single decision... It's going to take probably somewhere between 20 and 30 hours. So between 20 and 30 hours, if we do that, and I charge $200 an hour for the hourly work that I do, and I do very little hourly work, but if we go, it takes 20 hours times $200 an hour. that's going to be an extra $4,000. If it takes 30 hours, it's going to be an extra $6,000. So my fees to write the trust were about half of that. So if you'd like to triple or quadruple the price, I would be more than happy to go through absolutely everything with you. and people say well no we don't want to have to pay for it we just need to understand it it's like well okay that's where we've i've talked previously about the levels of understanding of someone who understands um things on here's what you need to know to understand what you're doing with your estate plan level and then there's the you know there's a level of someone who's done some research on the internet and so they know the names of different things And then there's the level of the person who puts together the estate plan, someone like me, where I have my law degree and 20 years of experience in practicing law and all of those things. And then there's a level of experience of the people who drafted the laws. And I would like to think that the people who drafted the laws have all sorts of experience in these type of things. But I do remember years ago here in Colorado, we had Senator Wayne Allard. as his commercials told us, was a veterinarian, not a lawyer, not a career politician. And, you know, the thrust of the ads was that you wanted to have somebody who was not a career politician and not a lawyer, but like, you know, a citizen just like us who could you know, govern and make policy for people who are just like us. And given that I'm not a veterinarian, I wasn't sure that it was exactly just like us, but I mean, I do appreciate veterinarians and I'll tell you a story of why just this weekend, I really appreciated veterinarians in a minute, but But a veterinarian's probably not going to view estate planning the same way that I, as an estate planning attorney and 20 years of experience, would view things like that. I also would not view... how to do veterinarian work the same way that a veterinarian would. Since I'm an estate planning attorney, we do different things. But just because we do different things, we view things differently, but we're all working towards the same common goal. That's the same thing that we're doing when we're working towards the same common goal as an estate planning attorney. So you are listening to Mobile Estate Planning with Michael Bailey here on 560 KLZ AM, also heard on 100.7 FM or the KLZ 560 radio app. Phone number to talk to me on the air is 303-477-5600. And again, that's 303-477-5600. And my direct line is 720-394-6887. Once again, 720-394-6887. So a couple of weeks ago, our little, almost seven year old West Highland terrier was out in the backyard patrolling and woofing and doing things that she does in the backyard. She has to keep it safe from all of the squirrels and the mice. And, um, sometimes we've had seen her woofing it, you know, like spiders that are running around or, you know, we're pretty sure there might've been a garter stake or two, or sometimes. Based on the smell, there might have been a skunk. So she's out there doing her job of keeping us safe and protected. And she came in a couple weeks ago and she had a little like round spot on her kind of stomach, abdomen, chest area. And it was kind of, it was, you know, scraped and bleeding. And we think maybe she might have been woofing in, you know, in a bush or something and stabbed herself with a stick and had to, you know, cut herself. That was kind of sad. We're like, oh, that's very sad for the puppy. And so, you know, we've been watching her wound. Is it healed? And on Saturday I was taking a shower and my wife said, Hey, Michael. Yeah. So the little spot on Harper's Harper's my dog on Harper's belly is it's kind of hard and it looks like it's oozing green stuff. Do you suppose we ought to take her to the vet? And I said, why? Yes. Yes, we should. because if it had just been a scrape and there was a scab or something, then that would be great. But if it's oozing green stuff, I'm not a doctor, I'm not a veterinarian, but I know that oozing green stuff probably means some sort of infection because my dog is not a Vulcan and does not have green blood. My dog is in fact a dog and bleeds red blood, or at least it's red when it's exposed to oxygen, like most blood is. So we thought it would be a good idea to go over to the veterinarian. So we, you know, I finished my shower, got dressed. We went over to the vet and they said, okay. So they took all of her vital signs and all of those things. They're like, okay, well, she seems pretty stable. We've got a, you know, hour and a half wait. So we'll send you home and we'll text you when we're ready for you to come back. We're like, okay, cool. So we went home. We had earlier that day dropped off my wife's car to get the brakes fixed because her brakes had worn out. And so an hour and a half was right about the exact same time the brakes were supposed to be fixed and that we could take the dog back. So we're like, ooh, we're kind of hitting our... kind of in a race here of who's going to get things done first. And as it turned out, when the brakes on the car were done, we drove over and we picked up the car from the brakes place and we paid them and then we brought the car home. And when we got home, my wife called the vet to see how things were going because the hour and a half was now two hours. And I said, well, it'd be about another 30 to 45 minutes and then you can bring her in. We're like, okay, cool. So brakes got finished first, but of course we dropped the car off to start on the brakes at like 9am and didn't get the car till 3am. We took the dog into the vet about 1pm. So, you know, it was like 4.15 by the time we got back to the vet. And so we took her, took the dog into the vet. Then, you know, at first, at first she was a little bit, not so excited. She was, you know, kind of whimpering a little bit. So I took her out and she had to go potty. So we took her out to the grass and she went potty and then brought her back in. And then she was super excited to be the vet. Cause she could jump up on the furniture and cause she'd look out the windows and, you know, all excited and smell the smells of the other dogs. I guess we haven't taken her to the vet often enough that she's afraid of it. you know and you know this particular vet visit there were no shots or anything so it was worked out great but so we took her in and the the vet tech comes in and looks and you know says okay well you know show me what's going on we showed him he's like she's like okay so she looks at it she's like oh okay i think i know what's i think i know what's going on here i'm like oh yeah what's that like well i think your dog has a butt fly and i said well what's a butt fly well Well, a bot fly is apparently a type of fly that they lay their eggs in rabbit feces. So we've had some rabbit. That's one of the things that my dog has to defend against his rabbits in the backyard because we have out in the front yard, you know, like during the winter, the rabbits will come and nest and they kind of kill, you know, circular portions of the grass. And, you know, there's some rabbits in the backyard. So when the larvae hatch, they are looking for a host. And, you know, my dog being out, being vigilant and ferocious and, um, you know, defending our backyard was probably where some rabbits had been. And so she had a larva that crawled up into her open wound and began to grow there. And so, cause she's like looking at the, she's looking at the little raised thing and she's like, yeah, and it could see a little bit of movement. So we think it's a bot fly. So she thinks there's a bot fly larva. And we're like, okay, cool. But she told us, she's like, oh, you've got a bot fly. We can take care of that. And I'm like, almost like it was like no big deal. And I'm like, all right, cool. So they took my little dog and they took her in the back to the procedure room. And the little dog was gone for about 10 minutes. And then the vet tech comes back with the dog and a little vial test tube thing that had some clear liquid in it. I think probably was water. and a little, and a larva thing. And the larva thing was about maybe half an inch long. And you know, so it was in there and it was still alive and moving around. They're like, oh, here, do you want to see it? And they handed it to me and I'm like, no, I don't want to have a bot fly larva that I'm holding onto. And then she's like, okay, well the vet will be in just a minute. She walks away and I'm like, we're sitting there with his bot fly larva going, well, we're glad that thing is out of you, little dog. We wanted just our little dog, not a little dog that was growing a bot fly larvae. And, you know, so once she said bot fly larvae, we could Google what a bot fly larva looked like. And you were like, oh yeah, okay. That makes sense. You can see that it was, you know, there was a picture of one that was on a squirrel and it was much larger than the one that our dog had had. So we're like, well, cool. We're glad that we could have that removed. you know, sooner rather than later. So the vet came in to talk to us, the actual doctor of veterinary medicine. And he comes in, he says, so that was like super satisfying. I'm like, Oh yeah, why is that? He's like, Oh, it's just so cool. You put, they put some like, um, some sort of like Vaseline jelly over the top so that the larva can't breathe. And so it starts to poke its poke out so that it can, you know, poke through the jelly so it can breathe. And so I guess, I guess they catch it with like some sort of, you know, properly proper tweezers and just kind of pull it out. And yeah, it was, he thought it was, he was like, he said it was like just super satisfying. He was so pleased that it went well and So we talked to the vet for like five minutes and then he went off and we took our dog and we paid for the procedure and thought it was the best money that we could have spent that Saturday because our dog no longer has a larva growing in it. And you know, that's, you know, that's a wonderful, great thing. You know, I, I mean, lots of things I know about dogs. I know how to feed them properly. I know how to take them out on walks and keep them healthy and happy. You know, all of these things that I can do with dogs are great, but But, I mean, I suppose I could have tried to do a similar thing. It's like, you know, kind of when you're thinking back to my Boy Scout days, and it's like, oh, if you have a tick, you pour some cooking oil on it, and then it'll back out so that it needs to breathe too, and then you can pull the tick off, but you don't want to just pull on the tick or rip a head off or anything. You'll leave part of the tick inside of your skin, and then it'll get infected. So these are all the things that I learned about how to deal with bugs and things like that as a Boy Scout. But I'm like, but I don't want to do that on my dog. I wouldn't want to have tried. Because knowing my luck, I would have tried to pull the bot fly larva out and it would have like ripped in half or something. And then I would have had half a bot fly larva inside of my dog, which I'm sure would have gotten infected and been much worse. So I had a vet who would do things right, who would take care of my dog. And I was very happy to go meet with the vet and have them. I was glad that that was the outcome because, you know, we just thought it was a little bit infected and, you know, needed some antibiotics. Well, we still got the antibiotics because once you pull a bot fly larva out, there's still a wound that needs to heal and we don't want it to get infected and, you know, and the dog. So, you know, this was my, you know, adventure on Saturday with my puppy dog, a veterinarian and a bot fly larva. And so, yeah, there's just, you know, I may know about how to keep dogs healthy and happy and take them on walks or, you know, when they can come and, you know, if I sit down to watch a basketball game or a football game, they're certainly right there on the couch wanting to be pet. So you can keep them happy by scratching their tummies or behind their ears or, you know, wherever they, the dog is or petting them. But, you know, that's exactly why I needed a veterinarian to be able to handle that and to be able to do those type of things so that the veterinarian could be super satisfied. And my wife and I were talking about, well, why do you think he would say he was just super satisfying? And I think part of it was that it was a community animal hospital that we'd gone to. And so there were probably many animals who had come in during the day that had much worse problems or not easily fixable problems than my dog did. So my dog had an easily fixable problem where they could fix it. Send us home with our dog to be happy and healthy and be thrilled with, you know, having gone to the vet so that the dog could be taken care of. And I totally get that. That is a wonderful thing. It's an amazing thing. It's a great thing. And I'm glad that there are veterinarians in the world who can do things like that. But you are not listening to a veterinarian show. You are listening to Mobile Estate Planning with Michael Bailey here on 560 KLZ AM or 100.7 FM or the KLZ 560 radio app. Phone number to talk to me on the air is 303-477-5600. And again, that's 303-477-5600. And my direct line is 720-394-6887. And once again, 720-394-6887. So the veterinarian I needed to bring into my dog so that they would first recognize that what it was, was a bot fly and not just an infected spot. And there wasn't anything green about the bot fly. It was kind of white, had a little bit of red in it, maybe a little bit of Brown, but so whatever my wife thought she saw. wasn't necessarily green but when she saw something on the abdomen of my dog we're like okay we got it we got to do something different anyway green being the color was unimportant it was okay how can we do something to help fix the dog because we don't want the dog to be in a distressed situation or have a parasite that could cause more havoc for the dog So, you know, going to the veterinarian who had the experience and the understanding necessary to look and say, oh, yes, that's a bot fly. We can take care of that. You know, so when people come to me and say, oh, I need to do an estate plan, I say, cool, let's talk about that. Some cases are very easy. Oh, well, we just want to set up a will so that if I die, it goes to my spouse. If it goes to my spouse, then it goes to my two kids. Cool. But we recognize that, we understand that, and we can take care of that. Now, sometimes people come to me, they're like, oh, well, I don't know if I need a will or a trust. Well, let's talk about that, shall we? They're like, well, what's the dollar amount? Well, there's not really a dollar amount. And the question about the dollar amount kind of comes from when we used to have much lower estate tax limits. The current estate tax limit is $13.99 million per person. That goes up to $15 million per person in 2026, so starting next year. But the estate tax limit used to be like $1 million per person. Now, $1 million per person 20 years ago was a pretty large number. $1 million per person now, given how housing prices are in Colorado, really isn't as much as it seems. My parents, they paid $104,000 for their house when I was six years old. Now that same house is probably worth $700,000, $750,000, or $800,000. Not that they've repainted it, they've redone the carpet, they've finished the basement. So they've done some things like that. But a lot of the things that were done, but mostly they've just been there and housing has become more expensive. So if you've got somebody like my parents who have a, I guess we'll put it at 700, just as a guess. I don't know if this is anywhere to actually being correct. It's a $750,000 house. Okay. They've got a $750,000 house. Cool. Well, my dad has worked hard all of his life. He retired a couple of years ago. He's got his 401k now to turn into an IRA that he worked at and saved, you know, like $1.2 million over the course of his life. you know, 35, almost 40 year career. And so now we've got $1.2 million plus $750,000. We got $1.95 million. Wow. Well, that's suddenly a million dollars doesn't sound like a whole lot, does it? So it used to be that the estate tax limits were tied just to the individual. And if they were tied just to the individual, then you could only have a million dollars in assets on your own. And you couldn't have a million dollars in assets if you had above that. then you would be taxed on it. So for someone who had $1.95 million, you would take not quite a million dollars of assets and put it in a trust for one spouse and put a million dollars in a trust for the other spouse. Or if you had amounts that went above that, then you could split it up into half and half. So that those assets could then be underneath the estate tax limit. And that was true when there was a $1 million limit or went up to like $2 million. But a few years ago, the rules changed. So those amounts were doubled. So now that's how we get the $13.99 million and the $15 million limit. But there's also the portability of estate tax amounts between spouses. So that means if a husband dies and he doesn't use his $15 million tax exemption, the wife can elect to keep that $15 million so that she can have $30 million by the time she dies. So it's really $15 million per person or $30 million per couple starting next year in 2026. So most people that I know don't have $30 million, even if they've got a nice house. I have a friend who he bought a house in Cherry Hills Village for $250,000 45 years ago. That same house is now worth $2.9 or $3.1 million. But still you're You know, $27 million away from having, you know, it wasn't like it was the biggest, hugest house ever. If you pay $2.9 million for a house, you'd hope it's pretty nice. But pay $250 million, you know, it just happened to be in Cherry Hills Village, which increased in value. So a lot of the dollar amounts of do you need a trust or not, the dollar amounts over $30 million, that's not a whole – not most people that I meet and probably not most people that are listening have more than $30 million, just as a guess. Most people are normal, and my parents, they've got their house paid off. But that doesn't mean that they're so ridiculously rich. They're like, oh, hey, we can do anything we want. You know, one point two million dollars sounds like a lot of money until you consider that if you need long term care, a skilled nursing home is going to be, you know, ten to fifteen thousand dollars a month. So now you're talking about $150,000, $180,000 a year in skilled nursing or memory care if you had memory loss, $150,000 a year. That $1.2 million doesn't last very long. It can go pretty quick. And people who have less than that, it's going to go even quicker. That's just how it goes. So when you're evaluating, do you need a trust? Do you need a will? A trust can be more complicated than a will. In my case where I have minor children and own property in multiple states, then we don't want to have just a will because I don't want my kids to have to go through probate in multiple states. But everybody's situation is slightly different. So we evaluate, is your situation complex? Is it easy? Can it be solved quickly and easily, or is there more work that needs to go into it? But in any case, I hope that getting your estate plan will be done and will be extremely satisfying, just like the veterinarian who said it was extremely satisfying. I would like to finish your estate plan and let you know that it was extremely satisfying to be able to get it done. So thanks so much for listening to Mobile Estate Planning with Michael Bailey here on 560KLZ. I am out of time, but John Rush and Rush Reasons are up next. So stay tuned and we'll talk to you next week. Thanks and bye.
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Mobile estate planning with Michael Bailey will return to ATX next Wednesday at 2.30 here on KLZ 560, AM 560, FM 100.7 and online at klzradio.com.

Join us as Mike Gallagher dissects the political climate with his unique perspectives. This episode dives into the controversies surrounding The View's panel discussion and the politics of Alyssa Farah Griffin's unfulfilled promise. With a nod to the past, Gallagher leaves no stone unturned in his examination of the political spectrum, offering a critique that's both refreshing and thought-provoking.
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From the wild world of D.C. politics to America's culture clash, brace yourself for the reality check you've been waiting for. The one and only Mike Gallagher.
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I'm feeling very inspired today. I hope you are as well. It's Hump Day, Wednesday, October the 15th, 2025. Welcome aboard. Lots to cover, lots to break down. I just saw a clip from The View. I don't know if I dare play it. I don't know if Tracy thinks I should play it or not. The shrews, the harpies, the crows, the shrill women on The View. Ganging up on Cheryl Hines, the actress who... is Robert F. Kennedy Jr.' 's wife. Now, I just sit there and wonder, why in the world would Cheryl Hines subject herself to that kind of torment? You know they're going to try to rip her apart. And Tracy got the biggest, my producer got the biggest kick out of the exchange. Well, now you know your husband's not a doctor as the Health and Human Services Secretary. And Cheryl Hines kind of, you know, pleasantly replied, yeah, 90% of the Health and Human Services Secretaries have not been doctors. And then Tracy kept pointing out, now Dr. Jill Biden, now that's a doctor. You want to talk doctor? Dr. Jill Biden? She's got it going on. She's all that and a bag of chips. If you've got a health ailment, you go see Dr. Jill. And she'll cure you. She'll get it fixed for you. She'll take good care of you. But not Bobby Kennedy. He's in no way, shape, or form in any position to be the Secretary of Health and Human Services because he's skeptical of vaccines. He is concerned about the connection between vaccines and autism, something that a whole lot of health experts have talked about for years. But he brings it up, well, it's the end of the world. You want me to play the clip? Should I play it? I don't really want to play it. Hearing Whoopi Goldberg's voice makes my skin crawl. Like Whoopi Goldberg is some kind of an intellectual heavyweight. Is she a scientist? Is she Dr. Whoopi now? And one of the women promised last December if Trump got the hostages home, she'd wear a MAGA hat on The View. Her name is something Farrah Griffin. I don't know who she is. Evidently, she used to work in the Trump administration. But then she became the media darling because any of these former conservatives, any of these ex-Republicans, who turn against the Republican Party are heroes to the loony left. You go down the list. Michael Steele, Scarborough, Bill Kristol, all the never-Trumpers have lucrative gigs with media outlets who prop them up as the useful idiots that they are. And that's the way the media sees them, are useful idiots. Oh, look, here's Alyssa Farrah Griffin. Trump talked about her yesterday. Some reporter asked him about why she's not putting on the MAGA hat like she promised she would do if Trump secured the release of the hostages.
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But on a lighter note, Alyssa Farah, she is one of the hosts on ABC's show The View. She said a while back, I'll quote, if Trump gets the Israeli hostages out, I promise I will wear a MAGA hat for one day on this show and say thank you for doing it. Your response? Well, did she put the hat on? Well, she hasn't got the hat yet. Who is it? Which one?
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Alyssa Farah. Well, she used to work for him. So she used to work here. I'll tell you about Alyssa now. She worked here. She gave me the most beautiful letter when, you know, the administration, the time came up, the election was rigged. I left. She gave me the most beautiful letter you've ever seen. I was a great president. What a great job. Some of the letters have been quoted. This is Alyssa, who I never thought was very outstanding. I figured she would not make it. And she didn't have a big role here, either. And then we had... January 6th, and she left after that or before that, but she gave me the most beautiful letters. And then even months after she left, and while we weren't here any longer, she sent another letter, glowing letter, beautiful letter. and then she got hired by the view and they gave her a couple of bucks and she changed her view very quickly i never thought she'd make it i never thought she had what it took in any way you know what that means but she's on the view but it just shows what a fraud the view is because this woman gave me letters and statements she said i was the greatest president in her lifetime now she's not that old so i didn't consider it a great compliment but but I've had better. Well, recently I've had the greatest president of them all. I like that much better. Does that include Washington and Lincoln? Yes, sir, it does. I said I like that president. So I think she's a total, I think she's a joke.
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I think she's a joke. Look, I'll just say one thing about it. If you make a promise publicly that you're going to do something like wear a MAGA hat If something extraordinary is accomplished, you've got to wear the hat. Of course she's got to wear the hat. But she's not going to wear the hat because President Trump is right. She's a joke. She's a total joke. She throws out an empty promise, and she doesn't dare infuriate. Everybody's afraid of the loony left. And they're a joke. You're going to see a bunch of them out in the streets Saturday with their goofy no-kings protest. What are you going to protest, the Mideast peace deal? You're going to protest hostages being returned? You're going to protest Trump figuring out a way to get the military paid and poor people paid on the SNAP program, even though the Democrats, the Schumer shutdown, would prevent them from being paid? Is that what you're going to protest? Give me a break. All right, do you want to hear the clip or not? Let me take a straw poll. I'll tell you what. I'll take the next three or four minutes, open up the MyPillow text line at 800-655-MIKE. I think it's splendid to see Cheryl Hines, who, again, I don't have any idea why she would go on The View and face these jackals. She knew they were going to crucify her, and they did. They came at her from all sides, especially Whoopi. You know, Dr. Whoopi. So do you want to hear the minute and a half clip of Cheryl Hines schooling these shrews about her husband, Robert F. Kennedy Jr.? Or is it too early in the hour to have to suffer through that? Give me your text message votes. 800-655-MIKE. I'll let the people decide. Because I'm the people's host. I'm a man of the people here in the Relief Factor Studios. I'll let you vote. And I'll tally it all up. Yes or no. You want to hear the clip or not. 800-655-MIKE. Text me your vote. 800-655-6453. And when we return, I'll give you your vote. You know how much I care about family, tradition, and the kind of meals that bring people together. That's why I love telling you about Tritail's Premium Beef. They're a fifth-generation ranching family down in Texas, real ranchers, not corporations, and they put together something really special, the Autumn Butcher Box. Now, this box is about more than just dinner. It's about gathering your loved ones, creating memories, and feeding your legacy with beef raised the right way. From their ranch to your table, it's a taste of tradition that reminds us what family meals are supposed to be. And when you order this Autumn Butcher Box between now and October 19th, you get a pound of steak meat as a free bonus. Tri-Tales also still has my favorite cuts with the Gallagher Patriot Box just for you. Get one or both and see what beef is supposed to taste like for yourself. As always, you get free shipping on all first orders and an automatic 10% off. Don't wait. Order the Autumn Butcher Box or my Gallagher Patriot Box today. Go to trybeef.com slash Gallagher. Share in the legacy. Trybeef.com slash Gallagher. That's trybeef.com slash Gallagher.
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I have this theory about people who need to be on TV, and I know people. I have people in my life. I have people in my orbit who would run over their own mother with a station wagon if they could get two minutes on TV. It is the craziest thing. And look, we're on TV every day with Salem News Channel, and I appreciate it. I like working for my company, not somebody else's. That's just me. But everybody does their own thing. But I have watched it. People that do this for a living, talk show hosts, writers, authors, politicians, they crave being on television. It's kind of goofy. And Cheryl Hines is an actress. What was the show? She was Larry David's right, with Curb Your Enthusiasm. And she's a very funny woman, very talented actress, and she happens to be married to Bobby Kennedy. So they all hate her. But here she goes onto the set of The View. The eyes have it. I've been watching the MyPillow text line like a hawk. It's about 400 to 10. Like 410 people voted yes. About 10 or 11 people said no. But it's a good moment. The reason I'm glad that you voted, and I would have gone with your vote. If you voted not to hear it, I wouldn't have played it. Because again, I'm a host of the people. Here's the moment that Whoopi Goldberg desperately cut to a commercial after Cheryl Hines destroyed Whoopi Goldberg. And Alyssa Farrah Griffin, the joke who promised to wear a MAGA hat when Trump brought home the hostages and yet thus far has refused to do it. Sit back and enjoy.
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Your husband, when he announced basically that he believed he found some causal links between autism and Tylenol, it created a lot of panic in women who were being told by their OBGYNs who look at them that Tylenol, if necessary, to treat pain during pregnancy is safe. What would you say, and I know you're not a medical professional, but to women who now feel anxious and nervous because their doctor's telling them one thing, but the top public health professional's telling them something very different? I'm not a professional.
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Well, they... said, consult your doctor before taking it. That's what they were saying, and that holds. So I agree. Listen, I've been pregnant. I understand. It's stressful being pregnant, I found, because you're so concerned with everything. I didn't drink caffeine when I was pregnant. So to say, hey, consult your doctor before you take this, I agree with that, and I think that's okay for moms to hear.
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Cheryl?
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Yeah. Go ahead.
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All right. I am this. This is not your fight, really, to be fighting. This is your husband's.
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Thank you for acknowledging that.
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But I just want to say, I just I do want to say, you know, he's not a doctor and he's not a professional. Yes. And oftentimes when he's talking. Oftentimes when he's speaking, he is speaking not with the best information that we can get. Because, you know, yeah, we could do a lot better with health stuff. And there's a lot of stuff he can do. And some of the things he's suggested... take it out of the hands of my doctor and me and my OBGYN and me. And I, I wonder, does it give you pause? And are you able to say, you know, that might not actually be so because I've got my experience and I've lived with this and I'm still here. So are you able to have those conversations with her?
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I am able to have those conversations. And just to be clear, uh, 90% of secretaries of HHS have not been doctors. But they've had a science background. There have been three. No, to be honest. One of Obama's secretaries of HHS was an economist. But the majority of them that haven't had medical backgrounds have had a science background.
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Wait, don't do anything else. Don't say anything else yet.
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Because we have to take a break. Got to take a break. Got to go to a commercial. Time to regroup. Now, first of all, and I'm just going to speak from the heart here, you couldn't pay me a million dollars to let Whoopi Goldberg condescendingly talk down to me on national television like that. I mean it. I would just as soon have another hip replacement than sit there and have to be lectured by Whoopi. You remember Whoopi Goldberg was the idiot who, who thought that Dr. Jill Biden should have been the Surgeon General. Because she's a hell of a doctor. This imbecile doesn't even... This is an actress. Whoopi's a very talented lady. She sings and dances and acts and plays characters in film and TV and movies and on stage. She's a comic. She's not a Rhodes Scholar, and I'm saying that politely. And she thought that Jill Biden was an actual medical doctor who would be qualified to be the Surgeon General. That same dope is condescendingly talking down to Cheryl Hines saying, now you know... You know your husband is no doctor. 90% of HHS secretaries have not been doctors, as Cheryl pointed out. But whoopies the dope that thought that Dr. Jill Biden would make a fine Surgeon General because she's a hell of a doctor. She's got her doctorate in education. Dr. Jill Biden. You can't make this stuff up. I mean, honest to goodness, it all starts to feel like parody to me. I don't know if I'm due for another vacation because everything is satire. Do you know that Letitia James' family member in the supposedly illegal house that she's been screwing around with the mortgage is a fugitive from North Carolina? She's got a rap sheet as long as your arm. That's Letitia James' niece living in Letitia James' house, the New York Attorney General. This is satire. This isn't real life. Wait till you hear how Jesse Waters covered this last night. I can't wait. Can't wait to play it for you.
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From the wild world of D.C. politics to America's culture clash, brace yourself for the reality check you've been waiting for. The one and only Mike Gallagher.
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One of the most important voices in America for years has been Peter Schweitzer. He's an investigative journalist. an author. He's appeared on the New York Times bestseller list, I think about eight times, most recently for his number one New York Times bestselling book, Blood Money, Why the Powerful Turn a Blind Eye While China Kills Americans. And I saw him on Mark Levin the other night on Life, Liberty, and Levin on Fox News, and I thought, gosh, I'd love to spend a few minutes with him. We don't do a lot of guests on this show. I always appreciate callers and voices in America, but I just, when I, I was so riveted by what he has revealed about the the Zoran Mamdani family, and it was really important. So I'm honored to welcome to The Mike Gallagher Show the great Peter Schweitzer. Peter, thanks for making time for us. How are you, sir?
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Hi, I'm great. Great to be with you, my old friend. We've known each other for, I want to say, like 30 years, but it's great to see you again, and congratulations on all the great work you're doing.
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Thank you so very much. Well, back at you, because you're doing such important work. Peter, I can't really believe that this is unfolding the way it is in New York City. It's hard to believe that it's actually occurring. I can appreciate... The Rush Limbaugh mantra that it's hard to beat Santa Claus when he's offering a lot of free stuff. And that, of course, is what Zoran Mamdani seems to be adept at. Hey, free bus ride. Free, fast bus rides. And we're going to freeze rents. And, you know, to struggling young people in New York City, he's like a dream come true. But in reality, he's a nightmare. He would be a nightmare for the city. It'll be a blessing probably for the Republican Party nationally if he wins. But what you revealed with Mark Sunday night was so important, and I wanted you to share with us, for the benefit of people who didn't see it, what you learned about Zoran Mamdani's family and the Qatari royal family.
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Yeah. I mean, look, New York is an international city in a lot of respects. But I think what a lot of people haven't appreciated is that there are a lot of international entities that are paying attention to this race. And I would argue that many of these are nefarious or troubling international entities. Yeah, the Al Thani family, which has ruled Qatar for decades, is all in with Mamdani. First, the family has funded the Mamdani family to the tune of millions of dollars over the years. They're the ones that bankrolled Mamdani's mother's film career. The second thing to know about the relationship is that the family has gone on social media. They have a large international following because they have a lot of money and they are extolling the virtues of Mamdani's campaign. They're putting out his policy positions. They're encouraging people to support his campaign, to donate to his campaign. And the third thing that people need to know is that when Domi himself sees Qatar in a way as a constituency, because what did he do in September? He's running to be mayor of New York City. I don't know of any other American mayoral candidate that when they're running for city hall goes on Qatari TV. which Mamdani did in September, and, of course, denounced Israel, denounced the United States for its involvement in genocide, as he put it. The bottom line being is that he sees them as, I think, an important component to what he wants to accomplish. And going beyond the Qatari family, the Qatari royal family, you see that Iran and a whole bunch of other international countries entities are also watching and enthusiastic about his campaign. One final thing about the Thani family that rules Qatar. This is the same family that in the 1990s gave refuge to Khalid Sheikh Mohammed. Now, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed may be one of those names that sounds familiar. Who is he? He was involved in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing. When that happened, he fled. And where did he go? He went to Qatar, where the Al Thani family gave him refuge, gave him a paid job working for the government. When Louis Freeh, the director of the FBI in the 1990s, tracked him down to Qatar and said, we want to arrest this guy. The Al-Thani family helped to tip him off and helped him to flee Qatar, where he went to Pakistan. What did he do in Pakistan? He planned the 9-11 attack on the Twin Towers. And it's important to know, I think, that Louis Freeh explained later on that had they been able to get Khalid Sheikh Mohammed in Qatar, That probably would have prevented 9-11 from ever happening because he truly was a mastermind behind the attack. So that is an example of one of many of these international actors that are backing Moondani's campaign in New York City and enthusiastic about his campaign.
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Peter, it's hard to believe that we are where we are. I was in the Empire State Building the morning of September the 11th, so I still feel it quite personally, as New Yorkers do and did. It's hard to believe that we've gone from that terror attack of September 11th to today. where a guy like this could very well become the next mayor of New York City. And incidentally, we don't have to go to the past. Today, in 2025, the political organization that he belongs to, the Democratic Socialists of America, DSA, here's the headline, take away. The Democrat Socialist group backing Mamdani condemns the Gaza ceasefire and calls for more anti-Israel resistance. Now this is not, Peter, this isn't even being hidden. This is out here in plain sight for all who have eyes to see and ears to hear. And yet this freight train seems to be hurling down the tracks. I've got to ask you something. Do you see any scenario where Curtis Sliwa or Andrew Cuomo can block Zoran Mamdani from winning?
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Well, I hope that one or the other of those two drops out. I'm certainly not a Cuomo fan. I have criticized him for a lot of his conduct over the years. But, you know, sometimes you have to go with the lesser of two evils. I think one of those two has to drop out, whether it's Sliwa or Cuomo, I'll let them decide. I do think there is a path for defeating Mamdani. I think his support is wide but thin, and I think it's based a lot on ignorance of knowing who he is, what his connections are. I'll give you another example, by the way, to just let you know who's watching and enthusiastic about this. Al-Kandik, which is a publication of Hezbollah, the terrorist organization in Lebanon, ran an article a couple of months ago where they talked about with enthusiasm about Mamdani's campaign and said that, you know, if he wins in New York, he's going to have a very, very powerful position. He could do a lot of things. And then they go on to say that Mamdani from there could go on to potentially be the secretary of Homeland Security in Washington, D.C. And I'm thinking, why would a terrorist organization want Mamdani to have that job in particular? Or you look at the International Quran News Agency in Iran. They are enthusiastic about his campaign and saying that this represents their Islamist principles, their Islamist values. I mean, the list goes on and on and on. So I think the more people become aware of Mamdani, his ties, what his policies are and who is supporting him, his support will wane. The question is, is the news media, the broader news media, going to actually allow people to know about these connections before the election? And that, of course, is the key question.
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Peter, your work is as important now as it's ever been. Check out The Drilldown with Peter Schweitzer and company, thedrilldown.com. Great, great podcast. Great work. Peter, it's so good to catch up with you after all this time. Come back and visit with us again soon. Keep fighting the good fight. You too, my friend. Take care. Take care. Peter Schweitzer joining us here on the Mike Gallagher Show. And coming up, I've got to share with you a column that my colleague Kevin McCullough wrote over at townhall.com about, well, let me just put it this way. And I'm going to share it with you because I was quoted pretty liberally in the column. But the name of the column at townhall.com is Not So Fast, Hugh Hewitt. Uh-oh, some sparks may fly because Hugh and I, we butt heads occasionally. We're friends and we're colleagues, but we have a decidedly different take on what voters should be doing in New York City when it comes to the upcoming mayoral race. I'll share with you what Kevin wrote about my belief that you've got to support the Republican in this race and Hugh's belief that everyone's got to vote for Andrew Cuomo in order to stop Zoran Mamdani. That and a whole lot more on a Wednesday episode of The Mike Gallagher Show, our last day in the studios of 98.9 WORD. Had a nice client appreciation visit yesterday afternoon, and it's great to be back in my beloved upstate of South Carolina, back in the home base in Florida tomorrow. We're glad you're with us every single day here on The Mike Gallagher Show. Every single day, it's a joy to remind you that portions of our show are sponsored by MyPillow. As you know, our friend Mike Lindell, big legal victory last week. He's been in a ton of hot water, as you know, because he believes in election integrity. Of course, due to his friendship with President Trump. Well, last week, there was a $5 million judgment against Mike that was overturned by the courts. Good news for MyPillow. So you keep praying for MyPillow, and you keep supporting this great American company. The premium MyPillow, limited time, great price, $18.98. If you go to MyPillow.com, this pillow is a godsend. Look, I bring the MyPillow products with me when I'm on the road. Here at the hotel in Washington State, I've got the MySlippers with me, those unbelievable slippers, because I pat around in the hotel room. I don't know what's on that rug. I bring the MyPillow with me. I roll it up into the suitcase. I've even got my MyPillow loungewear. Tons of great products. If you haven't been to the site in a while, go check it out. Go to MyPillow.com. Look for the Mike Gallagher specials. Click on that box. And with anything you order, enter the promo code MikeG. And you're going to save big. The slippers, the doggy beds. And the Giza Dream Sheets? MyPillow.com, promo code MikeG. MyPillow.com, promo code MikeG. Or call 800-928-6034. 800-928-6034, like we love to sing. For the best night's sleep in the whole wide world, visit MyPillow.com.
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There's a live look at the 9-11 memorial in New York City. Those big, big footprints and a beautiful tribute to those who it's hard to believe as we look at that live shot on Salem News Channel right now. And of course, we're heard every day on AM 970. The answer in the Big Apple. Hard to believe we go from 9-11 to Zoran Mamdani on the verge of being elected mayor. And the guy is such a bad guy. He's also a racist. The guy hates white people. You know what he's going to do to white people if he's elected mayor of New York? This is kind of extraordinary. This was a clip from NBC's Meet the Press with Kirsten Welker. And he's come flat out, he's come right out and said, We're going to go after people in white neighborhoods. And we're going to burden people in white neighborhoods with higher taxes. Comes right out and says that. I mean, the thing about being a communist. And a guy that is pro-Hamas, it seems, and certainly pro-Palestinian and anti-Israel, believes in the Intifada, the eradication of the Jews, and possibly becoming American. The thing about this guy is he doesn't hide any of it. It's right out in the open. He's out marching around. I mean, it's extraordinary. And comes right out and says to Kristen Welker on NBC, well, yeah, yeah, we've got to tax white people in their white neighborhoods. You see, white people don't pay enough in taxes. This is what the possible future mayor of New York believes. Let's go back a little bit. This is from a while ago. But he's on NBC Meet the Press. boldly proclaiming his racism.
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And realize there's a policy proposal that says your plan, and I'm going to quote it for folks, is to shift the tax burden from overtaxed homeowners in the outer boroughs to more expensive homes in richer and whiter neighborhoods. Explain why you are bringing race into your tax proposal.
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That is just a description of what we see right now. It's not driven by race. It's more of an assessment of what neighborhoods are being undertaxed versus overtaxed.
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So no plans to change that language on your website?
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The focus here is to actually ensure a fair property tax system. And the use of that language is just an assessment of the neighbor.
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It's just an assessment. My racism is an assessment. He was given multiple chances to walk it back. Nope, nope, nope. He wants to tax... affluent white people. This is a communist. He's a stone-cold commie. In fact, here's a text from Chicago. Who cares if Curtis is conservative enough or not? He's not a communist, and that's all that should matter. California, hey, Mike, if there are two evils to vote for, then you've got to vote for the good guy. You've got to vote Curtis Sliwa. Clearly, stupid New Yorkers are going to destroy New York City if he isn't mayor. And finally, to the goofy point made by Donald from Philadelphia, I'd rather vote for someone who loves animals than someone who treats people like a herd of cattle and own their land and food. And boy, New Yorkers, what a bunch. How about this Tish James? Have you heard about Letitia James and the house where she allegedly committed mortgage fraud? You know the house that she is charged with committing mortgage fraud over? Where do you hear who's living in the house? This is like parody. This feels to me like satire. This is out of a movie. Check out the way Jesse Waters reported this last night on Fox News.
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Tish can't blame anybody but herself. Her house is not in order, literally. According to The Times, the person living there is Nakia Thompson, Tish's grandniece, who told the grand jury in June that she'd been living there in the $235,000 three-bedroom property since 2020. The Daily Mail caught her walking out on camera. Primetime did some digging. Nakia's rap sheet is longer than a CVS receipt. It's so big it spans two states. First in North Carolina, according to the state's Department of Adult Correction, Nakia was a very bad girl. 2005, simple assault. 2006, assault against a government official. 2011, another assault against a government official, plus trespassing. Then Nakia got 60 days behind bars and was playing whack-a-mole with cops. But she didn't clean up. She transitioned. She's become an absconder. That means she fled the state to avoid arrest and moved to Virginia, where the Daily Mail caught her on the porch. Nakia even landed a gig working for her great-auntie's 2018 campaign for AG. And according to her LinkedIn, her title was Seasonal Representative. Why would Tisch hire someone who smacked a government official? Not once, but twice. Then Nakia got busted again. According to the Virginia court records, in 2019, she pled guilty to grand larceny. Three-year sentence, two-year probation. Copped additional charges for possession of burglary tools. Another nine traffic-related cases, including speeding, revoked license, safety belts, oops. A year ago, she was charged with four traffic misdemeanors in a single day. That's efficient. Did Tish know her grandniece was a career criminal? She was obsessed with Big Bad Orange Man. Meanwhile, a wanted woman was hiding under her roof rent-free. Democrats say no one's above the law, but when it's their own, the law is optional. And in Tish's case, so is paying rent.
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I cannot. That's Tish's grandniece. Big Tish has a grandniece that's got a rap sheet that's a mile long, living in her house in Virginia that she allegedly committed this mortgage fraud, which is what she's being charged. And she's standing out there. I will fight. You've got to go through everybody to get to me, Donald Trump. Orange man bad. sitting there in the front row of the courtroom, sneering at Donald Trump, going on social media, trolling him and taunting him. The Attorney General of New York. And Tish has a grandniece named Nokia that's like Bonnie from Bonnie and Clyde. She's hiding out in the house. Trying to escape the authorities in North Carolina. Now, can you imagine the cops, the law enforcement community in North Carolina? Maybe they should call the AG's office. Madam Attorney General, your grandniece is an absconder. Four traffic violations in a day. Like Jesse said, that's efficient. Look, go bigger. That must be the Letitia James family motto. Go big or go home. Doesn't this feel like some kind of a David Lynch TV series or a book or a movie? The people that have hunted Donald Trump, who are now becoming the hunted... It's a bad bunch of people. They're bad, bad people. I got a story of a good guy for you, Mike Lindell and MyPillow. And portions of our show, of course, are sponsored by the one and only MyPillow. And the MyPillow six-piece bath towel sets are back in stock. I remember like it was yesterday when Peg Hudson called me and said, you cannot believe how absorbent these towels are. Well, they're back. Normally $69.98. This is a six-piece bath towel set. Two bath towels, two hand towels, two washcloths. Normally $69.98, just $39.98 when you enter the promo code MikeG. So go to MyPillow.com, find the Mike Gallagher specials box, click on that, and enter the promo code MikeG. You're going to save a ton at MyPillow.com. Thanks to the team for another job well done. We're going to do it again tomorrow. I hope you have a terrific Wednesday. Be safe. Keep fighting the good fight. I'm Mike Gallagher. God bless America.
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In this episode of Retirement Unpacked, Al Smith delves into the essential aspects of estate planning. Discover how proper planning can protect your loved ones and ensure a smooth transition of your assets. Learn about the tools available, such as trusts and beneficiary deeds, that can help avoid the probate process, and the importance of having updated beneficiary designations.
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Welcome to Retirement Unpacked with Al Smith, owner of Golden Eagle Financial. You want a retirement plan that alleviates your fears about the future so you know your money will last. As a chartered financial consultant, Al Smith will help you find a balance between the risk and reward of the market and the safety of your retirement income. And now, here's your host, Al Smith.
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Well, thank you for listening. Another program today of Retirement Unpacked. There's a lot of different things that we talk about in my show. We talk about taxes. We talk about Social Security. We talk about the importance of having a plan. And one of the things that I talk about probably not as often as I should is estate planning. now i'm not an attorney i don't prepare wills or trusts or anything like that but i do come across many different circumstances where i realize estate planning is either needed or it should have been done a little bit differently or more in detail when someone has already passed and obviously that's too late to do estate planning and most people don't get up in the morning and think in terms of well i should you know create a better newer will or maybe the wife and i should get a trust or what's going to happen to our rental property if i were to pass on most people don't get up in the morning and think about those things But I have found that when estates are well planned, things can go much, much more smoothly. And it's a question of not only having things go smoothly, but protecting those that you love. And protection can mean a lot of different things. And right at this particular time, I have a client I worked with a while back, and he owned his condominium and had an IRA. And he passed recently, and his son and daughter will inherit his IRA soon. But what I have found, they're both beneficiaries, so that won't go into probate or anything like that. But there really wasn't any communication from my client to his son or his daughter who were his beneficiaries. And I think communication when it comes to estate planning is incredibly important. um without the requirement of an attorney and don't get me wrong i'm not saying you don't need an attorney but there are some things that are more common sense there are some things that can be done by whoever your financial advisor is that can enhance things already being done by an attorney. An attorney is obviously necessary when it comes to preparing a will or a trust or things like that. But having the conversation with other family members and having the beneficiary designation structured on your financial products, that's extremely important and those don't necessarily require an attorney so to speak and one of the things that might have helped this particular family that I'm working with is if there had been a trust because when his property passes on to his two children it's going to go into probate and then the property may be sold and so There is something that, in addition to a trust, could have made this go much, much smoother, and that is a beneficiary deed. There's a document called the beneficiary deed where you can will your real estate to someone or to... two people in this case, so that when you pass on the title of your property, your real estate will go to your son or your daughter or equally shared between those two as opposed to going into probate. And that's one of the advantages of having things documented well. the other thing is a trust completely avoids probate so if you're thinking in terms of should i or should i not have a trust there's a lot of reasons to have a trust not the least of which is privacy when someone passes on and things go through the will there is probate and that's not necessarily a bad thing and some counties it goes rather smoothly in colorado it's easier than in a lot of other states but it is a public event i don't know if any of you have ever lived in any smaller communities or smaller counties but there are public notices when someone passes on and those public notices are obviously published, and you can see when someone passes, and it will say if there are any claims against the estate of George Peterson, please come to the Elbert County Courthouse and present your claim before the probate judge kind of thing. That does not occur when someone has a trust. So those are just some things... to think about. A lot of reasons to make certain that you have your estate planning in order. Now, some people will say, well, what if I'm a single person? Do I really need to do estate planning and that sort of thing? Because maybe... i really don't have many assets and maybe my ira i already have a beneficiary designated for that well estate planning for single people is rather important because if you don't have a will the state of colorado will determine where your property goes And I don't think the state of Colorado is high on your list to inherit your property. Not that they're going to keep it, but they're the ones who would determine it. Because when you die without a will, that's called dying intestate. And that's where the rules of the state determine where your assets go. Another thing that's rather important is once children reach the age of 18, then let's say if one of those adult children were to be in a severe accident or something like that, The parent, if that adult child does not have a medical power of attorney and a directive, the parent would not be able to intervene with regard to the medical wishes of his son or daughter or the couple's son or daughter. So estate planning for single people is rather important, even though you think about more in terms of when there are children and things of that nature. and unmarried couples it's very important also because if there are couples who are together but aren't married Colorado has common law you know marriage rules and things of that nature and in the absence of estate plan things could get you know very tangled up and I don't think that's in anyone's best interest to have their things be tangled up just because you know someone someone passed and that's clearly something to think about again I think about the son and daughter who will be coming into my office, and they're going through probate and having to go through all the documents that are required for that, and that's something that could have been avoided had their father set up a living trust, which is not... terribly expensive, but it's part of a plan that can make things go much more smoothly for heirs. So a lot of things to take into consideration when we think about estate planning. And I know a lot of you listeners may be in your 50s or 60s and you may have parents. And your parents may not want to talk about that sort of thing. But it's incredibly important that there be a conversation. And sometimes parents will have a will to. that was prepared maybe in another state, and it was prepared when their children were small, things of that nature. And I think what's equally important to having a good estate plan is to having really good communication with those who will inherit your property. That means sons, daughters, things of that nature. And some of that are just some basic logical steps that, again, aren't required by an attorney. But let's consider, for example, just beneficiary designations. If an individual or a couple has an account, and they may have sons and daughters as named beneficiaries, and those sons and daughters are grown, and they may have children of their own, grandchildren. Well, there is a provision that's included in a beneficiary designation called per stirpus. And per stirpus is an alternative designation for contingent beneficiaries that will require proceeds to pass down what we call a bloodline. The alternative is, and basically under that circumstance, let's say if... There's a couple, and the man's spouse is beneficiary for his life insurance or for his annuity or his IRA or something like that, and the contingent beneficiaries may be their two children. Now, if one of those adult children were to die before the spouse, and then the primary person died and and the spouse died then instead of those proceeds going to that contingent beneficiaries children they would go totally to the other beneficiary So it's really important that those two little words per stirpus be included when there's contingent beneficiaries to be considered because that has things go down to grandchildren rather than having everything go to the other grandchild and which would disinherit the grandchildren. More things about...
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Welcome back to the second half of Retirement Unpacked, and we're talking about estate planning and how important that is. And again, I'm not an attorney. I don't prepare wills or powers of attorney or trusts or anything like that. But estate planning is an important component of financial planning, so I can help guide people in the right direction with respect to their estate plan. And if there's a question that you have that has to do with beneficiary designations or anything like that, give my office a call, 303-744-1128. Also, we're having a tax and retirement event in Bennett this Friday from 1.30 until 3. And there's no charge for that event. There will be refreshments. And it's going to be a purely educational event. We're going to be talking about some of the tax traps that people face in retirement. Now back to estate planning. One of the things I had talked about earlier that I will continue talking about is the importance of communication. Because whatever parents have planned for their estate needs to be communicated to their children. In very specific terms, sometimes one child out of three or four or two or three or something may be named as an executor if there is a will. Or in Colorado, they refer to it as a personal representative. In other states, there's an executor or an executrix or something like that. Now, in some circumstances, parents have said, oh, we've made a will or we did a will ourselves or something of this nature. And if it's been a considerable period since your parents have prepared that document, I would encourage them to review what they have, meet with an estate planning attorney, and see if what they have already prepared is adequate because, you know, things change. People's circumstances change. And so in addition to making certain that their documents are up to date, it's wise, very wise, to communicate with adult children what is going to be in their best interest. We talked a little bit about the difference of having a will or a trust. Having a trust avoids probate, but it can also make specific arrangements because many times when I meet with couples who are, let's say, well into retirement and they have adult children, it's not at all uncommon to have maybe two out of three adult children doing extremely well and maybe one is financially struggling. And it may be because of poor decisions. There's not really any sense in pointing blame on it, but it's often the case that one child is not doing nearly as well as the others. And perhaps that child also has not demonstrated any ability to handle money. That's an extremely... obvious example where a trust can be incredibly important because the trust can make certain that the child who does not handle money well can receive a modest income over a long period of time, whereas the other two children who are doing well could receive a lump sum. If the children are much younger in age, you could structure that for all of the children. A trust can structure distribution of assets at various times during the lives of adult children, such as when someone's married, buy a house, things of this nature. That way the principal can be preserved. It's preserved from creditors and so forth. So if one of the adult children... ended up in a difficult financial circumstance, and if their inheritance is still in a trust, it's naturally protected from creditors. Another tremendously important example where estate planning becomes really important is when there are second marriages. It's very common that when I work with couples and I ask them, well, how many children do you have? And it's often a response, well, I have two and he has three and so forth. And I think the estate planning there becomes extremely important because maybe one of the two in this second marriage couple may have significant assets and the other may have leaner assets, for lack of a better word. And I think it's important for both people in the second marriage to take into consideration what would I be expecting if you died and what would you be expecting if I died? Because I have heard some examples where One party says, well, if I died, I'm going to leave it all to my new wife, and then I know she's going to distribute it with good wisdom and guidance to my adult children. In reality, if that's not made in the will or the trust with a bulletproof document, then what could happen under a scenario like that is if when the first of two parties in a second marriage pass on, the surviving party you know may come to the conclusion well i really never liked his kids very much and so i'm just going to see how this money that he left me can benefit my children so estate planning when there are second marriages is incredibly important and the other major part of an estate plan that's extremely important are powers of attorney, both medical powers of attorney and durable powers of attorney. A durable power of attorney permits people to act on someone else's behalf while they are living so that if someone were to become incapacitated, having a durable power of attorney would permit someone whom they trust to pay their bills and make their financial decisions for them. And the medical power of attorney would permit someone to make medical decisions on their behalf. And there can also be a directive. I've heard terminology like a DNR referred to, do not resuscitate, and that sort of thing. So I think communication those wishes of someone in both a regular power of attorney and a medical power of attorney, I think that becomes extremely important. And as far as whom to designate for those, obviously the medical power of attorney. You don't want someone who is younger. I've heard of circumstances where someone is appointed medical power of attorney and who's substantially older, and I think that's okay when the parents are in their 50s and 60s or something like that, but under most circumstances, you would want someone who is younger so that if someone's capacity were diminished because of a stroke or something like that, the person who has both the durable power of attorney and the medical power of attorney are younger, so We don't have to worry about the incapacity of the person who has the medical power of attorney and so forth. Sometimes people also say, well, gee, if I give someone power of attorney, then they can do all of these things and steal my property or money or something like that. Well, if you have that concern, then obviously you wouldn't name that person for your medical power of attorney. The other thing is you can have... I don't mean medical, I mean a durable power of attorney would permit someone to access someone else's accounts and so forth. But I think what's important is that you fully trust that person. And if you have some kind of concerns, you can have a durable power of attorney, but not have it in the possession of the other party. Have it be somewhere where it can be accessed if the primary person person we're talking about were to become incapacitated from a stroke or dementia or anything like that and I think part of estate planning isn't just planning for what where are my assets going to go when I die but how will I be cared for and how will that be paid for if I were to become incapacitated and I think that's a separate planning thing of its own but it should become part of an estate plan because when people pass sometimes they die in their sleep or they may die after a few weeks in the hospital but it's not terribly uncommon and for someone, especially women, to spend a few years in a nursing home prior to their passing on. And I was fortunate, both my parents passed after brief periods My father did have dementia, but he was taken care of by my mother. He did ultimately go to a nursing home, but he was only there for literally a few weeks before his health deteriorated and he died at age 94. But I have known other circumstances. I even had someone on my show where a parent and a grandparent, between the two of them, spent over 10 years in a nursing home. And an enormous amount of assets were depleted. There was a property near the coast in New Jersey that had enormous value that The worth of that property ended up going toward long-term care rather than benefiting any of their adult children. So I think estate planning is something that needs to be on the forefront of financial planning. And again, if you are saving toward retirement, if you're putting money in your 401 , if you're funding your IRA and you want to get an opinion or some guidance, is this going to be enough or the money I already have now, how is that going to last me in retirement? Give my office a call so we can have a conversation. 303-744-1128. Thank you for listening. God bless you. And let's thank the good Lord for peace in the Middle East, which appears to be happening right now. Again, God bless you. Hopefully you'll be here next week. And have a great day.
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In this episode of Washington Watch with Tony Perkins, host Tony Perkins dives into the pressing issues facing our nation and the global stage from a biblical perspective. Join him as he discusses the ongoing government shutdown and the critical decisions Congress faces, as well as the current state of the Israel-Hamas conflict and its wider ramifications in the Middle East. We also hear from House Speaker Mike Johnson on how Democrats are dealing with military funding—essential listening for anyone tracking the country's political pulse.
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from the heart of our nation's capital in Washington, D.C., bringing compelling interviews, insightful analysis, taking you beyond the headlines and soundbites into conversations with our nation's leaders and newsmakers, all from a biblical worldview. Washington Watch with Tony Perkins starts now.
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They've shown by their actions and now their votes multiple times, now nine times the Democrats have voted, counting the House and the Senate Democrats, they have voted to not pay the troops. They have voted to block their paychecks. And it's very serious stuff. And they don't seem to care at all.
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That was House Speaker Mike Johnson accusing Democrats of prolonging the government shutdown now in its 15th day. Welcome to this October 15th edition of Washington Watch. I'm your host, Tony Perkins, and we're broadcasting today and throughout the rest of the week from the Real Life Studios in Chino Hills, California, the site of this year's PrayVoteStand Summit. Thanks so much for tuning in. And by the way, there's still time to register and attend this year's summit coming up Friday and Saturday at Calvary Chapel Chino Hills. To register, go to PrayVoteStand.org. That's PrayVoteStand.org. Well, coming up on this edition of Washington Watch, while Hamas is facing increased pressure from Israel and the U.S. to turn over the bodies of deceased hostages, Hamas is unleashing terror on rival clans and executing those it accuses of collaborating with Israel. Montana Senator Steve Daines will join us to break it all down. We'll also get the latest on the government shutdown from West Virginia Congressman Riley Moore, a member of the House Appropriations Committee. Well, after strong pressure from Israel in accordance with the U.S.-mediated ceasefire deal, Hamas returned more bodies of Israeli hostages. But Prime Minister Netanyahu says Israel won't back down until every, every hostage is brought home. Meanwhile, doctors say freed captives are stable but deeply scarred. Joining me now is Washington Stand reporter Casey Harper, who's been following today's main stories even though he's been celebrating his birthday. Casey. Thanks for joining us. What's the latest out of Israel?
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Oh, Tony, you remembered. It's great. Thank you so much. Well, it's quite the story developing in Israel. Israel, of course, they're demanding that Hamas return all these remaining hostages, both alive and dead, as part of this U.S. brokered peace deal. And so far, Hamas has released those 20 living hostages, but the seven of the 28 expected bodies of the deceased hostages have been turned over. And in fact, one body that was turned over wasn't a hostage at all.
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Hamas agreed to release all 48 of our hostages in phase one and made the specific confirmation to President Trump. And we are expecting to see the terror organization uphold their side of this agreement.
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Now, an Israeli spokesperson warned that aid to Gaza could be further restricted if Hamas fails to hand over the bodies of those remaining deceased hostages, which was part of the peace plan. At the same time, as you said, reports say Hamas is cracking down in Gaza, allegedly even executing people suspected of collaborating with Israel or the Palestinian Authority, Tony.
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Thanks, Casey. You know, we're hearing rising concerns about religious freedom issues around the globe. That's something we track very closely here at the Family Research Council. But new reports out of Turkey that Christian missionaries are being targeted once again. What can you tell us?
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Yeah, Tony, Turkey has actually deported over 200 Christians since 2020 and labeling them a, quote, security threat, despite having no charges or evidence to support that. Now, many of these Christians had lived there for years and led local churches. Now they're banned from reentry, leaving those congregations without pastors. Sadly, the same thing is happening in China. Globally, believers from the US, UK, South Korea, even Latin America are facing targeted persecution. But Tony, what's putting this Turkey issue in the spotlight now is a major case before Europe's top human rights court, which is ratcheting up the pressure on Turkey to end what many Christian groups are calling a quiet purge of peaceful believers.
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You know, Casey, what's interesting about that, when you read in Revelation of the seven churches, they're all in the geographical area of Turkey. And Christianity is almost being extinguished there in Turkey. And this is not a new problem. Pastor Andrew Brunson, an American pastor, was unjustly jailed in Turkey for two years on false charges before the previous Trump administration pressured Erdogan to release him. And of course, the Family Research Council played a role. in that case, as we advocate for the rights of Christians around the world. All right, Casey, switching gears, it's day 15. Any progress in the efforts to reopen the government?
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Yeah, so we are on the West Coast. I'm here in D.C. on the East Coast. And for the ninth time here in D.C., Senate Democrats blocked a bill to reopen the government today. So Republicans, they've consistently been pushing for that simple funding measure that would continue funding through November 21st, but it failed again, as I said. So Senate Majority Leader John Thune, he's accusing Chuck Schumer of shutting down the government and appeasing radical left groups.
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Not even the prospect of military families going without a paycheck was enough for Democrats to reopen the government. Nor are Democrats concerned about needy families uncertain about the future of nutrition assistance. And all those Americans living in uncertainty, well, they're just going to have to wait until Democrats' far-left base is satisfied.
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So Senator Thune, he's now pushing a vote on an $852 billion defense package to highlight how this shutdown is actually a threat to national security. Now, the OMB director, he warned today that more than 10,000 federal workers could face layoffs. But just an hour after he said that, in San Francisco, not too far from you, a Clinton-appointed judge temporarily blocked those firings during the shutdown following a complaint from federal employee unions, Tony.
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Interesting times in which we live. A lot to pray about. One other item I want to touch on. Very significant and close to home for me. The Supreme Court heard a case brought by the state of Louisiana that could have major implications for congressional redistricting. What unfolded at the court today?
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Yeah, that's right, Tony. The U.S. Supreme Court, they heard those arguments today in a major case that's challenging specifically the use of race in drawing congressional districts under the Voting Rights Act. Now, the Supreme Court's conservative majority, they signaled some support for striking down a black majority House district in Louisiana, saying it's relying too heavily on race. Now, the move has been backed by Louisiana and the Trump administration, and it could have major precedent even reshaping congressional maps across the South and potentially boosting Republicans and limiting the use of race in future redistricting, Tony.
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I mean, this is a quite significant development. It's going to have ramifications across the board. Casey, thanks so much. Always great to get an update, and enjoy the rest of the day and your birthday. Thanks, Tony. All right, I want to go back to something Casey mentioned in passing as we were talking about the persecution of Christians, and that's what's happening in China by the Chinese Communist Party. Join me now to discuss this and a bit more. Congressman Greg Murphy, who serves on several House committees, including the Ways and Means Committee, he represents the 3rd Congressional District of North Carolina and tracks what's happening with communist China very closely. Dr. Murphy, welcome back to Washington Watch. Thanks so much for joining us.
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Good afternoon, Tony. Thank you for having me.
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So I know a lot of focus right now when it comes to China is on the trade standoff with the U.S. But what deserves, I think, more attention, and it is connected, that is their hostility toward Christian churches there and pastors. We've seen a pretty significant crackdown in the last five days.
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Yeah, you know, Tony, this is happening worldwide. I mean, the Islamic terrorists are doing it, as we pointed out. In other countries, we know that the Syrians are doing it against the Druze. But Christians are really being attacked worldwide, killed worldwide. And it's tragic. I mean, we are the most peace-loving people, you know, one of the most peace-loving people in the world. And it's a threat to them. It's a threat to them and especially to the Chinese who live in a godless or promote a godless society that you have Christians that are actively practicing their faith or even sometimes having to do it in hiding. But it's a threat to them and the Chinese wish to eliminate any threat possible.
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How do we connect our trade policy with a respect for religious freedom and the right to be able to practice your faith? I mean, as we negotiate with China over trade, should this not be a part of it?
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Absolutely, Tony, but I fear, and I'm a surgeon, I live in the real world of difficult things. I fear China doesn't give a damn. They don't care about the human rights abuses that they've done with the Uyghur, the forced harvesting that they do on prisoners where they basically kill them to get their organs. It's really hard to crack a mentality of a society that does not value life. They value their one world collective mission to basically take over the world. But the fact that they don't value individual life is really hard to make any type of a parlay with when you don't have the same morality structure.
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It is. You bring up this issue of they're actually doing an industry of having people come to their country for body part replacement, for organ transfer. I mean, this is unbelievable that they're actually taking their political opponents and they're taking their body parts without obviously without their permission. And they're making an industry out of it.
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Yeah, and this is well-documented, Tony. This is nothing they can deny all they want to. This is very, very well-documented that this organ harvesting occurs. I see it in some of our literature. I used to do transplants myself. We see it in some of our literature that speaks out against this. They have no recourse. They can deny it all they want to, but the facts are the facts, just like COVID, but that's a whole different issue. But again, going back to the fact that they have no moral structure. They do not believe in a sovereign entity. They have nothing to stand on. They, again, do whatever is most facile to push the ideals or lack thereof of the communist regime.
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Now, last month you introduced a resolution urging the United Nations to end special treatment of China. They'll do whatever they have to do to get on top.
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Yeah, lie, cheat, steal, bribe. I've been traveling around. I'm on the Trade Subcommittee for Ways and Means. And part of our job is to travel down, promote trade. We go to certain parts of Africa where it's known that the Chinese show up with literally suitcases of money, literally suitcases of money to buy off our folks that that is a hell of a lot of money for them. But literally, that's how they work. And American business interests says, we're not interested in doing that. We're not going to do these type of things. But they have bribed and conjured and pushed so many other countries into their sphere of influence. It's a very, very difficult battle that we will continue and have to continue to fight. They work on a different moral theme, and it's very, very difficult to challenge them on that.
SPEAKER 08 :
And they're aggressive at it. I mean, they're built in roads initiative with they're going into these third world countries to get the rare minerals, earth mineral. And they're they're taking advantage of folks. How do we compete with that?
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, it's hard, Tony. It's very, very hard. I met with a mineral company when I was in a southern African country. They're doing it the right way. They come in and say, look, we are not going to bribe anybody. We're going to conduct business. And truth be told, I met with one I won't say it, one country leader down in the south there. And we're talking about the Chinese influence, how to combat the Chinese influence. And he said, well, let me tell you this. First and foremost, my citizens say I belong to this country. This is what's most important. But then he says one thing they never say is they never say I want to be Chinese. So the counterpart of that is many of them say, I would love to be an American. They still emulate, they still put us in high, high regards. That's hard though, when folks are showing up with suitcases full of money to bribe them in very, very poor countries. We have to continue to say democracy, and this is the ideal for which you should strive.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, Dr. Murphy, good point, because as you're talking about earlier, China has no moral foundation from which to operate. They might win and appear to be winning in the short term, but the staying power is with a solid foundation. And that's why America cannot deviate from what has made us an exceptional nation. And that is that foundation of biblical truth and morality. Dr. Murphy, I want to thank you for joining us. Always great to hear your insights. Thank you so much. God bless. All right, folks, day 15 of the shutdown. That's coming up next. We're going to be taking a deeper look at when it might open. So don't go away. We're back after this.
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Welcome back to Washington Watch. Thanks so much for tuning in on this Wednesday. And again, we're broadcasting from the studios of Real Life Network in California. We're at Calvary Chapel Chino Hills this weekend for the PrayVoteStand Summit. And there's still time to register. We still have room. So go to PrayVoteStand.org and find out how you can be a part of this very, very timely event. OK, speaking of things happening, it's day 15 of the Schumer shutdown. And for the ninth time, Senate Democrats today blocked a clean stopgap spending package that would fund the government through November the 25th. or 21st. And it's, again, no Republican policies here, just a continuation of what we had while the appropriations process is worked out. Now, many are expecting the situation to remain unchanged at least until this weekend's No Kings rally, which the speaker has labeled the I Hate America rally. But behind the scenes, are there movements that suggest how the federal funding fight might play out? Is there an off-ramp for Democrats? Joining me now to discuss this and more, Congressman Riley Moore, a member of the House Appropriations Committee. He represents the 2nd Congressional District of West Virginia. Congressman Moore, welcome to Washington Watch. Thanks so much for joining us today.
SPEAKER 10 :
Hey, Tony.
SPEAKER 08 :
Thanks so much for having me on. So active duty military members were set to be paid today despite the shutdown after the Trump administration tapped into unused research and development funds to cover their checks. But that's just a temporary fix. How long can that hold?
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, you're right. This is just a temporary fix. And they were paid on the first. So that was the last appropriated paycheck that they got. And then we had this wall that we're running into on the 15th, and as you rightly stated, that reprograms some R&D dollars. But eventually, those dollars are also going to run out. Now, they're building contingency plans over there at the White House right now to make sure and ensure that our troops continue to be paid. But what I would say is a good piece of news here in terms of—and you just laid it out. How are we going to get out of this? How are we going to try to figure some of this out? Leader Thune in the Senate is currently trying to bring the defense appropriations bill that the House passed off the floor and sent to the Senate, he's trying to get that up for a vote in the middle of this shutdown, up for a vote on the U.S. Senate floor. Now, that obviously would pay the troops and actually might pave a way for to get out of this shutdown. And I would remind the audience, not that they're tracking everything that we're up to, but we did pass a motion to go to conference with the Senate in the House in September. So I think you're going to also see a motion to go to conference in the United States Senate on a three-pack of bills that we were going to do, which is Ledge Branch, Ag, and Military Construction and Veterans Affairs. If we could get defense and then move to those next three bills, well, presto chango, we actually might have something we've not seen in a very long time in Washington, which is a semblance of regular order, which is what we all want. We want regular order. And so perhaps that might get us in a strong step in that direction, Tony.
SPEAKER 08 :
So what you're laying out there, if I understand correctly, is that these appropriations bills, as they're approved, at least those portions of government would reopen.
SPEAKER 10 :
Exactly. So you would move into potentially partial shutdown. Now, look, I don't put it beyond the Democrats to just say, no, we're not voting for the defense appropriations bill. We're not voting for any bills. We're just going to keep the government shut down. Maybe that's what happens here. But we're going to find out on Thursday, tomorrow, if that is the case. But as you rightly stated here, this could be a way to partially start to open up departments of the government where we can conference these bills. We passed all 12 out of committee in the House, and we've passed three on the floor already. So we're in good shape over here to be able to go ahead and conference on a lot of this stuff.
SPEAKER 08 :
So what the Democrats are building all this upon is the Affordable Care Act, that there were these premium subsidies that were put out during the COVID crisis. They want to continue those. They're set to expire the end of the year. But here's a problem for them. Republicans have never voted for these subsidies. In fact, they've not voted for the ACA and its funding of abortion and now transgender surgeries. So if they're going to build their whole defense or their whole opposition against funding the government on those two issues, I don't see how they're going to get Republicans to go along with them.
SPEAKER 10 :
No, no concessions on this. I'm not for any concessions on a clean CR, ACA, otherwise. That's not a funding the government issue. You're talking about taxes. That belongs in Ways and Means. That belongs over in Finance and the Senate. That has nothing to do with funding the government. And these folks have put themselves in a box on this, and they've switched over to the ACA to talk about that because the other two proposals in that bill are just... toxic as could be. One is to give $1.5 trillion to illegal immigrants so they can have health care in this country, and also cut the rural hospital stabilization fund. So taking health care away from states like mine, hardworking Americans, and then giving health care to illegal immigrants for free. These are no-goes. We're not doing any of this. They can either vote for the clean CR, or they can keep the government shut down, and we'll let Russ vote and the OMB continue to fire federal workers and shrink the actual federal workforce, which I think is a pretty good exercise in itself.
SPEAKER 08 :
You know, Congressman Moore, I know you're relatively new to Washington. I've been around a while, and I've seen many shutdowns, at least partial shutdowns, short-term shutdowns. One thing that's different about this one, and I'd be interested in your take. We just have a little over a minute and a half left. But the speaker is – he is not – He's positioning the Republicans to hold the line. And so the members, House members, they've done their work. They passed the clean CR and they're back in their districts working. And I think the Republicans have a much stronger position this time.
SPEAKER 10 :
A much stronger position. And I can tell you, we are completely unified on this. We do weekly conference calls with the whole conference and everybody down the line to the man himself. We are united on this, and we have proven we are united when we passed the one big, beautiful bill. We have not failed in our duty to be able to implement President Trump's agenda and the Republican agenda at every turn the House has succeeded. And we are going to succeed in this as well, and we are not going to break on this.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, Congressman Moore, we're out of time, but I appreciate another topic. You've been speaking out on the persecution of Christians in Nigeria, calling for the Trump administration to designate, to redesignate Nigeria as a country of particular concern. I want to get you back on to talk about that because I share your concerns over that, and I appreciate you speaking out on that.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, thank you for that, Tony. And please, if people aren't aware of this, there's more Christians killed in Nigeria than all other countries combined. So please. Right.
SPEAKER 08 :
Most dangerous place in the world to be a Christian. All right. Stick with us, folks. We're back after this.
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And again, we don't retreat. You will never see in front of this building here in Washington, D.C., a white flag flying. We will never step back. We will never surrender. And we will never be silent. Welcome back to Washington Watch. We're broadcasting from the real-life studios at Calvary Chapel Chino Hills, the site of this year's PrayVoteStand Summit. You can find out more about joining us starts Friday. Go to PrayVoteStand.org. All right, well, President Trump marked the start of this week by declaring that the war between Israel and Hamas is over. A senior official in the Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's office stressed today that the war is not over until all phases of the president's 20-point peace plan are completed. And right now they're still in phase one as Israel awaits the return of the remaining deceased hostages. The official also told the Times of Israel that, quote, Hamas will be disarmed, end quote. a remark that President Trump also made yesterday. So what can we make of the current situation? What's the timeline that we might see this all play out? Joining me now to discuss this and more, U.S. Senator Steve Daines, who serves on several Senate committees, including the Finance Committee and the Foreign Relations Committee in the Senate. Senator Daines, welcome back to Washington Watch. Thanks for joining us.
SPEAKER 11 :
Thanks, Tony.
SPEAKER 08 :
All right. We were just talking about this in the last segment, the government shutdown, before we jump into the Middle East. Another vote today in the Senate, and it went nowhere with Democrats?
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, it went nowhere. We need five Democrats to join us. We could open things up again. This is day 15. I used to work for Procter & Gamble, Tony, once upon a time, and I was in the shampoo business. It reminds me a lot of lather, rinse, repeat. That's what we're doing right now with the Democrats. But I'll tell you,
SPEAKER 08 :
Keep in mind- We need a little head and shoulders.
SPEAKER 11 :
Need a little head and shoulders. That was one of my great brands there, Tony. We're head and shoulders above the Democrats, but it does feel like Groundhog Day at the moment. But I'll tell you, on Saturday, October 18th, there's this giant No Kings rally. You can see it. It's nokings.org. There's 250 far-left groups that are sponsoring this, all their- Their symbols are on the website, NoKings.org. You can see it. So they want this massive protest to be out there across the country. They're doing nothing until after the protest. In fact, they may keep things shut down until November 1st when the insurance premium increase letters go out to American consumers. And insurance prices are going up for health care because of Obamacare. That's why they're going up. We need to continue to fund these subsidies.
SPEAKER 08 :
But here's the reality. They want these increased subsidies to cover up the fact that Obamacare was a failure from the start. That's the only way they can keep this lie going.
SPEAKER 11 :
You nailed it, Tony. That's exactly what's happening. And by the way, 20% of these subsidies are pure fraud, best we can tell. There's no reason to extend these subsidies. As you said, it's just covering up the real problem. And that's when government takes over health care. You put disincentives in the system to not lower costs, provide better value to the patient. you get these increase in premiums. This is Obamacare's fault. The Democrats have had this now since it passed back in 2009. And so we need to hold them accountable. These subsidies cover up the crime.
SPEAKER 08 :
And I would say one of the other underlying issues as the founding chairman of the Senate Pro-Life Caucus is that the ACA, the Obamacare, provides for abortion coverage, and now it's funding transgender surgeries on minors.
SPEAKER 11 :
You know, you can't make it up, Tony. That's exactly right. And so it violates the high protections, which are not part of the Obamacare plans. So there's a lot of problems with this. But the last thing we want to do is in some way continue to prop up Obamacare by funding the outrageous, fraudulent subsidies that go to insurance companies.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, I commend to the Republicans for this is the first time I've seen this in a long time where they've actually taken a stand and it's a principled stand and they're they're not waving a white flag. Generally, in times past, they've they've gone into negotiations waving the white flag. And I want to hats off to Senator Thune and Speaker Johnson for holding the line. A principled line. And so anyway, I want to move on to the Middle East. Israel is awaiting the return of all the deceased hostages that Hamas had in their captivity. But we're getting reports that Hamas now is taking vengeance on people they think collaborated with Israelis. Part of this plan is that they are disarmed and they're gone.
SPEAKER 11 :
Is that going to happen? Well, it has to happen, Tony, or we will never have any kind of peace in Gaza. Just last month, I was on the border of Gaza and Israel. I was down at the Karim Shalom. It was one of the logistics points where they're bringing in aid to the Palestinians who are suffering because of Hamas. And then I met with Bibi Netanyahu shortly afterwards. It's very, very clear there will not ever be peace in Gaza until Hamas is not only disarmed but also removed, eradicated. The only reason we got to this point where there was a peace deal is because of President Trump and Bibi Netanyahu's relentless press on Hamas. It was because of strength in pressuring Hamas, bombing Hamas, putting him in a corner. That's why Hamas finally came to the negotiating table. I'm thankful we got those live hostages out. What a joyous moment. I think many thought that would never happen. I've met with many of the hostages. parents. It was a great moment. And President Trump deserves the Nobel Prize for Peace, in my opinion.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, it was an amazing day to see those hostages released. But looking back on this, Senator Daines, you look over the last two years and how the Middle East has radically changed. And a lot of that has to do with, A, as you mentioned, Benjamin Netanyahu's leadership out of Israel, but bolstered by that of President Trump.
SPEAKER 11 :
Look, it was a wonderful tag team there between Bibi Netanyahu and President Trump. Think about where we were just two years ago when they had the 1,200 innocent Israelis slaughtered by Hamas in that horrible terror attack, the equivalent of 44,000 Americans being slaughtered that day in a terror attack, if you look at relative population sizes. And to think that here we are with Hezbollah virtually on their heels, the Houthis on their heels, Hamas now virtually surrendering. This is an amazing moment. And then add on top of that the Iranians, nuclear capabilities set back many, many years. By the grace of God and the strong resolve of Bibi Netanyahu and President Trump brought us to this point is something that Joe Biden could have never have done. Thank God we have a strong president.
SPEAKER 08 :
Amen. Senator Steve Daines, thanks for joining us. Great to see you. Folks, stick around. We're coming back with more Washington Watch on the other side of this break.
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You're tuned in to Washington Watch, and I'm your host, Tony Perkins. Thanks for joining us as we broadcast from the Real Life Network studios in Chino Hills, California, the site of this year's PrayVote Stand Summit that begins Friday. It's Friday and Saturday, and it'll be at Calvary Chapel Chino Hills here in Southern California. It's a powerful gathering. It's so timely. It seems like every time we gather there's something going on in the world, well, there's something going on everywhere. Here in California, we have the governor signing this AB-495 into law, which threatens parental rights. We've got the government shutdown, which I think is... There's really no end in sight to that. I think this could be quite significant in what the impact that it has on the United States, on our government, possibly even the economy. We've got what's happening in the world. With Israel, the Middle East, a lot of unsettledness there, even though we're seeing positive developments, a lot to pray about. And so we're going to be praying. We're going to be preparing so you can vote and cast votes in a very educated manner and We're going to encourage one another to stand, stand for biblical truth. So find out how you can be a part of this event. Go to PrayVoteStand.org, PrayVoteStand.org. I know we've got a lot of viewers and listeners in Southern California, and there's time for you to be here. And for the rest of you, you can jump on a plane, still make it here. All right, our word for today. Comes from Romans chapter 3. There is none who understands. There is none who seeks after God. They have all turned aside. They have together become unprofitable. There is none who does good. No, not one. Their throat is an open tomb, and their tongues, they have practiced deceit. The poison of asp is under their lips, whose mouth is full of cursing and bitterness. Their feet are swift to shed blood. Destruction and misery are in their ways, and the way of peace they have not known. The bottom line, the source of it all, look at verse 18, there is no fear of God before their eyes. When reverence for God disappears, the results are devastating. Humanity becomes spiritually worthless, doing nothing of true value, marked by the stench of death in their speech, deception with their tongue, poison with their lips, quick to harm and destroy. Paul's description of fallen man could easily be be mistaken for today's headlines. When the fear of God fades, chaos always follows. To find out more about our journey through the Bible, text Bible to 67742. That's Bible to 67742. Well, this week, Family Research Council released the results of a new national survey that gauged what regular churchgoers believe when it comes to various social issues and fundamental tenets of biblically grounded faith. Dr. George Barna, who directed the research, joined me on Monday to highlight some of the findings. And the top line takeaway from the survey is that the church, let me back up, pastors need to preach and teach the whole counsel of God, grounding their people in biblical doctrine so that they can then apply that doctrine, those biblical truths and principles, to the pressing issues of our day. Now, thankfully, we have organizations out there that are providing church leaders with resources that help them and their congregations to be that salt and to be that light. And there are many pastors out there that are preaching the Word of God. But we need all of them. We need pastors that will preach the Word of God and be in fellowship with one another to encourage each other because not everybody wants to hear the truth. Well, joining me now to discuss this is the founder and CEO of one of the organizations that are out there bringing pastors together and encouraging them in their stand on biblical truth. That's Chad Conley. His organization, Faith Wins, is dedicated to educating, activating, and mobilizing faith leaders. And Chad was the Republican National Committee's first ever National Director of Faith Engagement. Chad, welcome back to Washington Watch. Thanks so much for joining me.
SPEAKER 19 :
Hey, Tony, thanks for having me. And I'm honored to be anywhere you are. And to me, Family Research Council is that organization that's been our guiding light for my entire adult career. I've been following you guys and just honored to do anything that Tony Perkins and FRC is involved with, brother.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, thank you, Chad. That's very kind of you. I want to talk about your background. You're a pastor like me. You've served in a church. You've been a pastor. You are dedicating your life, your ministry, to gathering with pastors, working with them, encouraging them, and challenging them. I mean, this is kind of a rhetorical question. You and I both know the answer, but I want people to hear what you're going to say, and that is, why is it so important that we have pastors that are engaged and are preaching the Word of God?
SPEAKER 19 :
Well, I appreciate it. I'm a Sunday school teacher and a deacon. I've actually never been a pastor, but as a Christian first, I have just watched the disconnect. You know, Tony, it's amazing to me that when I came out of the Army in the early 90s and I'd been in college and I'd been challenged in the Army with people who you know, didn't agree with me. I'd never had my faith and my patriotism challenged till I got in the army. And I just realized that, man, we need pastors teaching the truth. People don't understand sometimes what they're reading in the Bible. They don't see it. And like you mentioned, George Barna, he talks about the disconnect is that a lot of people don't understand because they don't see how the Bible applies to their life. And as I tell my Sunday school class in our little Baptist church in Newberry, South Carolina, every Sunday, all you got to do is read it. And it applies today. It's timeless. And it hits you right between the eyes with what we're dealing with in our lives. And I just think a lot of people need to connect those dots to overcome the clutter and the noise that's out there in the culture today.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, absolutely. I don't know why I thought you had been a pastor. But you were a deacon. We get along so well. You were a deacon. I was a pastor. I don't know how that works. But let's talk a little bit about this survey, because the survey found that less than half of all regular churchgoers, 47%, said that it is very important for Christians to have a biblical worldview. Now, that declined from 59% in 2003. How do you process what's going on in the world around you unless you have a biblical worldview as a Christian? I mean, you got to know what the scripture says.
SPEAKER 19 :
It's amazing. You know, one of the books that really got me into this realm, and it was following organizations like yours and David Barton Wall Builders, but it was the book U-Turn that George Barna authored with David Barton, I guess around the year 2000, just after that. And I know the survey that you're referring to, he just keeps updating that. And what that book talks about is that very thing. The thoughts, the beliefs, the actions that people take have to come from somewhere. And when they don't come from somewhere that's basis, that's foundational, that's concrete, they get messed up and we look around. And I tell my Sunday school class too, you know, what you realize, Tony, is people rely on self. And then when they realize that self doesn't understand all the answers, they look to the state. When they look to the state to solve their problems, they realize that rights and privileges are created out of thin air. God gave us what the founders call those unalienable rights. They don't change. Natural rights that ought to be apparent to everybody. Let's face it, they're not very apparent sometimes. I'm surprised that the number's that low. And it's really what I do. We've been in seven states in the last 11 days talking about this very thing. The biblical worldview matters. Preaching the whole counsel of God matters. And teaching congregants how to go engage their culture and their communities is a big deal today, maybe more than ever before.
SPEAKER 08 :
Now, our survey, speaking of voting, our survey found that among regular churchgoers, 93% said they were registered to vote. That's good. That's up. But less than half, 43%, said they vote in every election, including primaries and general elections. How do we fix that?
SPEAKER 19 :
You know, I told them last night, we were in Las Vegas at Calvary Chapel just south of town last night before I flew out on the red eye. I told them this very thing. You know, too many of us think it's about a congressional or gubernatorial or senatorial or presidential election. It's not, Tony. It's about the school boards, the city councils, the county councils. Let's face it. Those people are enacting an awful lot of policies that are quite contrary to biblical beliefs. And we can't tolerate them. We can't enjoy them. We can't support those kind of things. And so when our folks don't show up, we get policies passed we don't like. And like I told these pastors in the last seven states these last 11 days, when pastors engage, when churches vote, faith wins.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, yeah, absolutely. And I vote in every election. I mean, even the local tax elections. I mean, I think it's important that we take these values, these biblical values, and we apply them to every aspect. School board, city council, property taxes. Are the money being used for the right thing? Are they funding the right thing? I think we need to be informed and engaged. And that's the role, I think, in part that the church plays, not telling people how to vote necessarily, but giving them the information and a framework by which to analyze these issues. That's where the biblical worldview comes in. So I want to ask you about this, Chad, because you're out there working with the pastors. I mean, you're traveling. We pull them into a couple of places. You're going out there to them, meeting in small groups. And I am so appreciative of the pastors who are out there preaching the Word of God, seeing hearts and lives transformed. But it has to work its way out, meaning that we have to be that salt and light and influence the world around us. What are you hearing from pastors in terms of what we're seeing in the polling is that not all are preaching on these issues, these important issues. What's holding them back?
SPEAKER 19 :
You know, that's one of our big messages, Tony. We were in New Hampshire last week and had an awful lot of pastors in a Sunday night service and drove over to Maine and had pastors there. And that was my exact message, is you've got to preach about these issues. Your people don't understand it. I think that this is really the crux of the problem. We've heard over and over again, ooh, you Christians, you shouldn't be involved. And it has absolutely... suppressed and pushed down the people in the pews desire to know about it, and they're scared of offending people. And so maybe their tither, their Sunday school teacher, they tell their pastor, ooh, don't deal with this stuff. And I just tell them, I don't believe this is political at all. I believe it's biblical. So all these pushes to don't go get in politics are just, they're just off base. These aren't political issues. They're biblical ones.
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You're absolutely right. And my suggestion to pastors is I did it. And I'm a first, obviously. There's a lot of pastors that have done this. In fact, I credit Chuck Smith, founding pastor of Calvary Chapel, that network, of just preaching through the Bible and taking the congregation, whether every year or every two years, from Genesis to Revelation, And as these issues come up, you preach on them. That way no one can accuse you of cherry-picking an issue or trying to grab the headlines out of the paper. The Word of God is relevant no matter where we're at. It's relevant to what's happening in this particular day. So if you're talking about homosexuality, the transgender issue, abortion, it's in the Word of God and just preach through it. And that way people in your congregation, they might not like it, but they can't say that you're being political
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God you look you're nailing it and you get it I know you've done this your entire career you spent your life vested in this people don't know the Bible they're not reading the Bible and those of us who really dedicate ourselves to reading every day realize how much we need it and we also see the problems out there in society and moms and dads you know people at work they don't they don't know how to solve these problems they don't have anything to cling to and when you give them biblical connections they start realizing this is applicable this is timely and it's right up there in front of my eyes if i would just apply it david barton points out that even tax issues and things like minimum wage are covered in scripture if we just And so it's so important that pastors connect those dots for people and don't leave them hanging because I think they're having those conversations. Look at what's going on out there. Who thought we'd have these conversations that boys should compete against girls or go to girls' restrooms? Or who thought we would allow crime in the cities to run rampant? And there'd be entire groups of people, Tony, who would apologize for it and say, well, this is normal. And they're just enjoying watching cars burn. It's really insane. And it's seen as common sense, but it's also biblical law and order and ordered society. That doesn't come from nowhere. Those are biblical ideas.
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And if it doesn't come from the pulpit, where is it gonna come from? It has to come from the pulpit. So Chad Connolly, I wanna talk, we just got about less than three minutes left. One of the things you're doing by not just challenging the pastors, but building kind of a fellowship of pastors to encourage one another so that they know that they're not alone. You're doing these conferences across the country, little small gatherings. It's intimate. It's personal. And people can begin to develop that friendship and relationship among pastors. How can pastors find out more and others find out more about what you're doing?
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Well, they can go to our website, Tony, faithwins.org, F-A-I-T-H, faithwins.org, and find out about our upcoming meetings. We're going to be in Pennsylvania, Ohio, South Carolina, North Carolina, Georgia here before mid-November, I think, coming up. So if they go to faithwins.org, they'll find out. And, you know, all we're trying to do is I tell them every day, every meeting, I'm here to deputize you to bring more pastors who need to hear this message. We need to expand the reach and get more people doing exactly what you're talking about doing. I believe this is a moment that can become a movement if we expand properly and go out and be aggressive to educate people about what they need to be doing.
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And here's the good news, Chad, for these pastors. And this was, again, I've seen this not just in our survey that we released this week, but I've seen it in other surveys. People in the pews actually want to hear. Not all. I know there are some distractors, but they're usually the loud ones. The rest of the people, they want to know what the Bible has to say. They want their pastor to teach on these issues so that they can process it so they know how to respond when their child comes home saying, you know, this guy in my class is now a girl. How do you deal with it? They want to know. And so the door is open. Pastors just need to walk through.
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I totally agree. You know, that place we were at yesterday outside of Las Vegas, you can tell the difference in a pastor who has prepared his congregation versus one who hasn't. We were in a really new church the other day in a different state, and you find you've got to work harder. But the more you talk and the more you win them over, when pastors communicate to pastors and they put them in front of us and hear our conversation, they do become educated and empowered, and they feel like that fellowship works. It gives them a little bit of cover, I guess is the way to put it. And they can go back to their congregations and say, I've got other pastor buddies doing this. I had that meeting in Michigan the other day with this exact conversation where there were reluctant pastors, which is what I, that's what I encourage our pastors to do. Find me the ones that are skeptical or reluctant or don't believe they ought to dive into this. We'll buy them a breakfast, a lunch. We'll fellowship together, and I believe we'll win them over and make them understand they need to be engaged in this culture right now. Now's the time, Tony. If not now, when?
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Chad Conley, great to see you. Folks, thanks for joining us, and tune in again tomorrow.
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All right, and it is Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Health and Wellness Wednesday. David Gonzalez with me here to get things fired off today. David, how are you? I'm doing good, John. How about yourself? I'm doing very well. Been a busy week, man. Hey, since you're looking at that computer keyboard over there, can you hit, like, the F1 key really quick for me? You're the man. Thank you. We had to reboot the computer in here in the studio, and I'm not close enough to the keyboard because I keep it a long way away, and David's right next to it. So, David, thank you. Appreciate that. All right, talk to us about gold, the price of. Wow.
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It just continues to run. So gold is a little over 4,200 an ounce, so the highest it's ever been.
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Last time you and I talked, it was like 3,800 or something.
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3,800 last time I was here, which was a month. So, wow. And silver's up over 53, so both are setting records right now.
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Okay.
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So, yeah, busy time. The phones are ringing, and both on the buy side and on the sell side. So we're getting a lot of phone calls, people wanting to invest in precious metals, which we certainly can do that.
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And I think we've never really mentioned this in particular, but I think it's important to mention that for all of you listening, keep in mind that, and this is something that's across the board, not just with David but with anybody else, Even though gold is at 4,200 an ounce, if you have an ounce of gold, you're not likely to get 4,200 an ounce out of that because people have to handle the processing of and depending upon how that gold is sitting. In other words, is it actually in gold bullion? Is it in a piece of jewelry? You know, what's it in? I mean, just because I think there's misconception just because. It's at that price per ounce doesn't necessarily mean that if you've got an ounce of gold, because first of all, most jewelry and so on isn't pure gold, which is what that 4,200-ounce is based on, correct?
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Exactly. Yeah, and what's really interesting, so I think I've told you I just celebrated 36 years in the precious metals business in August. And one of the things that we're seeing right now, it's kind of that perfect storm. You've got the price of gold and silver setting records, and then you have the largest wealth transfer in the history of mankind with the baby boomers passing away and the gold and silver going on to the beneficiaries and the beneficiaries liquidating that gold and silver. There is an overwhelming amount of supply of gold and silver on the market right now. And so what's happening is we're actually seeing things sell at discounts. So the strangest thing in the world where we're liquidating silver, some gold, under the spot price, and it's pure gold. So, yes, there's challenges for sure.
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And I wanted to say that because I think there's this – David that well you know I've got all of this stuff this gold and whatever and even some coins and so on and that's great and by the way it's good that you do nothing wrong with that and David can help you with the values of and so on but I think it's sort of like And I always compare things to cars because it's my world and it's what I live in, as you know. But it's sort of like, okay, I know I see this car listed at, I'll use the round number, $25,000. Well, just because it's listed for that doesn't necessarily mean it's bringing that. And that's not your car. So just because you might be able to compare it with that doesn't necessarily mean it's going to bring that if you're going to go out to the market and actually sell it.
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Yeah, and there's a difference between the bid and the ask, what you can buy stuff for and what you sell it for.
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Correct.
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There's a spread in there. Yeah, it's an interesting market just to see just the amount of activity that's happening. But with that said, there isn't anyone that comes in, whether they're liquidating a sterling flatware T-set or silverware set or – jewelry, whatever it is, that they are not just surprised at what they're getting at the end of the day, what we're writing the checks for. Um, especially on the gold side, it just doesn't take much to equal, you know, a thousand dollars or $5,000. It just, it just doesn't take a lot of it right now. So always encourage people, um, you know, just to check out what you have. And, you know, I think you showed me a pocket watch the other day, um, if I remember right. And it was, it was gold and, you know, got a fair amount of money just in the, in the gold content.
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Okay, so when it comes to all of that and folks listening, most of all, don't try to figure this out on your own. The Internet can be a great friend. It can also be a great foe. Bottom line, come see you and figure out exactly what this stuff is worth.
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Yeah, absolutely. Just get the information. You may not be quite ready to do something with it, but figure out what you have. Is it real? Is it costume jewelry? Is it silver plated stuff? And we don't charge for those appraisals. So bring your stuff in. It's a pleasant experience. You'll come into our conference room. You'll lay stuff out. You'll be able to ask questions. We're not your typical shop type company, professional environment. And yeah, just get the info and then, you know, decide what you decide when you decide.
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Okay. So for those of you listening, phone number 720-370-3400. You can always go to the website, klzradio.com, or my website, rushtoreason.com, and find David there as well. Now, when it comes to things that people – you've got a story where people think, well, you know, I've got this item, and I think it's worth about X. Well, maybe, maybe not.
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Maybe, maybe not. Yeah, we got a call late last week, and it was a – you've probably heard the brand Tag Heuer. Oh, yeah. Well, before Tag bought Heuer, which I think was in 1983, something like that, it was just Heuer. So a client sent us pictures and was hoping, you know, $300, $400, whatever. It had a lot of wear. The watch was made in the 1960s, really didn't have high expectations. Well, that watch ended up being worth about $7,800. Wow. And so – Yeah, especially on the watches. You get into those older Swiss-made watches, and especially on the Rolexes. Oftentimes, a 20-year-old Rolex is worth more than what they paid for it with all the wear and everything else with it.
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Sure, because of inflation and other things, what new ones cost. And sometimes the older ones will hold their value better than some of the new ones do and so on. Absolutely.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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Just the way it works. Okay, so again, free appraisals. I know we say that a lot, but it's sincere, folks. Believe me, we're not just saying that to say that. David wants to help you determine what is the value, what's that value of the things that you actually are holding on to, and then you can make that decision. I say this a lot, and again, mean it. You can then be the decision maker. And I think the other thing, too, to note here is, let's say that you've got certain pieces where, you know what, I'm fine parting with those, but I want to keep these. David, do whatever they want to at the end of the day. It's their stuff.
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Absolutely. Yeah. Like I said, just come in, get the information, and then whatever you decide to do is what you decide to do.
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And, for example, some of you might have some jewelry where you're like, you know, I don't really need the gold, but I want to hang on to that diamond because it was Grandma's. Maybe you don't like the setting that it was in. Okay. Great. Because, by the way, Grandma don't care anymore. At the end of the day, you do what you want to do, and you decide what you want to do moving forward. And David can help you make some of those decisions based on the values of what you have.
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And we can even do the stone removal for you, too. Perfect. But, yeah, absolutely. Come on in. We'd love to meet you and help you with whatever you have.
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Okay. There you go. Mile High Coin, folks. Again, 720-370-3400. Do you want to mention what you've got coming up in the future in regards to being able to do this a little bit more?
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Well, we're going to be launching a show, a 30-minute show. I believe it's going to be on Wednesdays. Tuesdays, actually, but that's okay. Tuesday. That's all right. It tells you where my head is. That's all right. And it's really the show is going to be designed just to help people understand what they may have of value, treasure hunting stories, just all the things that I've run into over the last 36 years of what people have brought in.
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And for those of you listening, in hopes that some of you will think, well, you know, maybe I've got some of these things around that I didn't really think had value, but encourage you to start digging around the house and find some of these things and at least get it one place.
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Yeah, and it's not just going to be about precious metals. It's, you know, we venture off into all types of different things, whether it's baseball cards or, you know, I think I shared with you that – had a client bring in an Elvis signature and didn't realize that that Elvis signature is probably worth about 5,000 bucks. So, but yeah, looking forward to getting the show off the ground and we're working on it now to, to launch it here, I think in the next, not next week, but the following week.
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Okay. So those of you listening, I'll keep you updated on it too. As we get a little closer, I'll talk about that in some of my nurtures and things when I talk about David and Mile High Coins. So rest assured, you'll know for sure when that's coming. But David, I appreciate you. Thank you for all you do for us and our listeners. I appreciate it greatly.
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Thank you, John. It's a pleasure.
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Good man. Appreciate you. Again, all you listening, 720-370-3400. Do you want to put him first, Charlie, really quick since we've got him coming up next anyway? So we'll do that. We'll put Mile High Coin first. I'll follow up that with Veteran Windows and Doors. To give Charlie some time, let me do this. Veteran Windows and Doors, by the way, go direct to the source, save money when it comes to Windows and Doors. That's exactly what David does at Veteran Windows and Doors. Same, two different people, but David and David, great people, by the way. The name goes with it. Give David Bancroft a call today. He'd love to help you out when it comes to your windows and doors. Find him also at klzradio.com.
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All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Okay, to go along with, and I didn't do this on purpose, but it worked out this way. And there's a term now, and I didn't know what this was. And I kind of knew about it, but I didn't know the actual term. But caller police now are warning people. This is to do with health and wellness, by the way. So was David, because a lot of you have things kicking around the house whereby you could make yourself a little bit more financially sound, which, again, goes to the whole health end of things, not just financial health, but your physical health as well, your well-being. Caller police are warning of jugging. Now, not juggling, but jugging. J-U-G-G-I-N-G. Have you ever heard of that term before, Charlie? No, Charlie has not heard of it, meaning a lot of you probably haven't heard of it either. I hadn't either. But jugging is, let me just read this to you. Numerous police departments in Colorado warning residents of a new type of robbery that has been taking place recently. According to the Lakewood Police Department, criminals are taking money from unsuspected victims after they have gone to the bank or an ATM. So what I'm talking about with David is, by the way, this will spread. People going into pawn shops and they know they're coming out with cash and things like that. I mean, those are sort of like a mini ATM for your stuff. The difference between this and David, of course, is everything you do with David is done in secret. Nobody knows where he's at or where you're going or what you're doing and so on. It'll be very hard for them to actually do this. But the new tactic, by the way, for these robberies called jugging. And there's ways to prevent this, of course. I'll talk about that. But jugging is a form of robbery when a suspect follows the victim immediately after withdrawing money from a financial institution, such as a bank, ATM, or a check-cashing store. I'm going to add to that. I think you're going to see this go into even pawn shops, coin shops, things like that. Suspects usually follow the victim, and when they reach their next destination, this is when the suspect approaches and demands the money. Oftentimes, the perpetrator threatens the victim or uses violence to steal the money, especially if the cash is visible. Lakewood Police Department says that jugging suspects utilize everyday vehicles to blend in, and the best thing to look out for is behavior as an indicator. Look for vehicles that could be loitering near banks, even taking photos or using binoculars to view what is happening with a cash withdrawal. Also, you should be aware of your surroundings after leaving the bank, as these criminals will follow your vehicle to the next location. Again, yes, this is health and wellness because this really has to do with your well-being. There's been situations. There was an article here just the other day I read in 9 News whereby somebody lost $4,000. They had withdrawn that, and somebody was watching what was going on, and they lost all of their money. And by the way, the chances of finding that again, it's going to be slim to none. It's cash, meaning unless they can actually find the perpetrator, it's a done deal. So as this article is talking about, be aware of your surroundings. Watch what's going on, you know, everywhere. You really in these particular situations, you've got to have your head on a swivel. And by the way, folks, this includes some of you where you may be going to buy something. You're going to buy something on, you know, marketplace. Maybe you're buying a car or any other item, motorcycles, et cetera. And there's a substantial amount of money that you've withdrawn to actually go do that because the person you're buying from wants cash, which I don't blame them for. So, by the way, this goes for you. This hasn't happened yet, but I could see this. You're the one going to buy the car. Somebody has been watching you go and actually buy said car. They watch the money exchange hands because a lot of times this isn't taking place at somebody's home, which I would highly recommend it doesn't. It takes place in other places, quote unquote, well-lit, well-traveled areas. Well, keep in mind, all of those areas also have people watching. And if this person has been watching the person actually go and get all the money out of the bank and they now come and watch them give it to you, and they drive away with whatever said item it is, you now have all that cash, they know that. They've watched the transaction happen. Even if it's an envelope, typically even if an envelope's handed over, somebody's counting because you want to make sure that it's accurate. So the point with all this, and I might even talk about this a little bit more on Saturday on Drive Radio, is not only be aware of your surroundings, but where are your surroundings? So if you're going to do one of these transactions, by the way, where are you doing it at? Are you at a police station, which I'm not trying to be mean or rude here, but that's not any guarantee something's not going to happen. They could be watching with binoculars that you went to the police station, but now all of a sudden you've left the police station with cash in hand and your next stop is to go wherever. And most people don't deposit cash into their banks, so you may be just going to the next place of business that you were going to, and voila, somebody's there following you. And I could see this getting larger to where there's even now teams, and they're communicating, talking back and forth. Hey, yeah, watch out for this particular vehicle. Here's the description, blah, blah, blah. I just saw them exchange a pretty good sum of money, and voila, they now have it. You know, desperate times, which things are, and let's face it, we're not getting any better along those lines, especially when it comes to crime in this Colorado area because of the leadership that we have or the lack of, let me say it that way, the lack of leadership that we have across our state. Is this going to grow? Yeah, I can see this growing. I really don't see this slowing down. So here's a few steps that they talk about, which I've just mentioned. Stay vigilant in your surroundings. Don't leave cash in your vehicle. Yeah, that's a big one, by the way. In fact, I wouldn't leave it anywhere on you. Unless you've got some sort of a lockable safe or something like that that's in your vehicle, okay, at that point you might be able to leave the cash. But I would just have it on you, hidden, where nobody knows where it is. And also change routes. in your commutes from work to home. In other words, somebody might be watching you for a couple of days. They might start seeing your patterns. They know that that money never went to the bank, by the way. They know the money's now in your house, and this is how robberies can take place even in your home. They know that that cash never went to the bank, so now that cash is at your place, and you get my drift. And I cannot stress enough that you've got to be ultra careful with all of these sorts of things. And some of you that are listening to me, you know full well what I'm talking about. And you that are business owners, where you bring cash in on a routine basis, and that cash then has to be deposited and, and, and. And I know a lot of things are done credit card-wise now, but in a lot of cases, there's still cash that goes to the bank. Be very careful there. When it comes to all of those things, okay? My wife says I'm scaring people and going to the bank. Well, I just want you all to be aware that there's people watching what you're doing, okay? I'm not trying to scare anybody, but just be aware of the things that are going around, okay? At the end of the day, I want you to be safe. This is health and wellness, and I want you to be healthy and well in life, okay? And we live in a day and age where there is a total lack of respect for others, others' belongings, others' lives. I can go down the list. There's individuals out there that, honestly, they don't care. They were not raised and taught the way that I and most of you listening have been, where we value things. We value each other. I mean, I'm one of those people where, and a lot of you listening are the same way. You know, if you left your keys in the car and I walked by, I might mention to you that, hey, your keys are still in the car, but I'm not touching your car. I don't care if it's left. I don't care if the windows are down, the keys are in. I'm not touching it. It's not my stuff. That's not how I was raised. Or that's how I was raised, I should say. I was raised to not touch those things. That's how I was raised. My folks, my dad especially, if you don't own it, it's not yours. Don't touch it. Don't mess with it. I don't care if there's a $10,000 brick sitting on somebody's lawn chair and you're at the beach. It's not yours. You don't touch it. That's how I was raised. That's not how, unfortunately, a lot of the world was raised, the world around us. So you have to be diligent and vigilant with everything that you have going on around you. You know, be watching for others like this particular article talks about. Be looking for those people that might be loitering in a parking lot or they might be making rounds. And, yeah, they could be there waiting for somebody or they could be there waiting for you. You don't have any idea. And, you know, if in doubt, call the cops. Hey, you know what? I've got a pretty good sum of money on me. I just came out of the bank. I noticed there's some folks that are kind of loitering around. I'm not really sure what they're doing. I don't feel comfortable right now. What should I do? They'll tell you. They'll tell you what to do. But this, by the way, should be happening as you're going into the establishment that it is that you're getting the cash from or whatever you happen to be doing. You need to be paying attention as you walk back out the door, be looking around. And again, this is another one of those where if you don't feel safe walking out the door, don't. Stay inside that establishment. Call the cops from there. Everybody has a cell phone on them. You should anyways. Don't leave your cell phone in the car either. Keep it with you. Anymore, it's sort of your lifeline. I mean, you've got the ability to call and get help from that as fast as you do anything else. So, again, don't take things for granted. Don't go along with this attitude of, oh, nothing's ever going to happen to me. It can happen. Be aware of that. Be paying attention to what's going on. And again, if you don't feel comfortable about something, then don't do it. So again, it's called jugging. J-U-G-G-I-N-G might be the first time you've heard about it because I can tell you from reading articles over the last couple of days, I'd never heard this term. I knew these sorts of things happened, but I didn't know they actually had a name for it, where the name comes from. I have no idea. Now, one more thing I want to throw in here. And this doesn't surprise me. This is in the Wall Street Journal today, by the way. Chinese criminals have made more than $1 billion. That's a B. $1 billion from those annoying texts that are reminding you to pay your unpaid toll. This is another health and wellness, financially speaking. You guys get these texts on a regular basis. I know I do. I've tried to block the majority of them, but you still get them. You owe parking tickets. You owe a toll ticket, whatever the case may be. You don't. Trust me, the highway authority around here, 470, whatever they call it, Northwest Parkway, whatever, they all go by different names, Express Toll, whatever. They don't do that. You typically get a statement that's mailed to you if you're a part of that. Well, even if you're not, if you drive on the road, you're going to get something sent to you that says you owe money for using that toll. Whether you have a pass or not, you're going to get something that comes in the mail to you saying so. They don't email. Trust me, I'm an account holder. They don't email. They don't send text messages. So there's nothing that they're going to send you via text message that says you owe XYZ on said toll. So, again, Chinese company or Chinese criminals, I should say, probably a company wide of them. One billion dollars from those from those text messages. What does that tell you? People answer those. Unfortunately, people go to their link and they pay. And by the way, once they do, they steal your credit card information at the same time. So not only do you pay them and they get that money. You can dispute it on your card, of course, but in some cases, it's a done deal at that point. They've extracted the money, and the credit card company is going to eat that. We're all going to pay. But at the end of the day, they got the money. And this article in The Wall Street Journal is talking about $1 billion they have made. off of that so point being watch for the scams uh don't click on things you don't know don't open emails that you don't know it might look very enticing your curiosity gets up you want to go ahead and answer it a text message comes through you don't know who it's from so you answer back just don't most of the newer phones today at least i know mine On an iPhone, Charlie, I don't know about your Android, but if a message comes in and you don't know it, you have the ability to not only decline that message or to delete that message, but to report it as spam as well. Do you have that option now, Charlie, as well? He does also. So all of you listening, on modern smartphones, you have that ability. If it's a message you're deleting, it'll ask you, delete or delete and report as spam. If it's not something that I know where it came from, it's a delete and report as spam. 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This isn't rage radio. This is real, relatable radio. Back to Rush to Reason.
SPEAKER 03 :
And we are back. Rush to Reason, Debra's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560 Health and Wellness Wednesday. Dr. Julie Gatz is joining us now. Dr. Julie, welcome back.
SPEAKER 15 :
Hi, thanks for having me here.
SPEAKER 03 :
Always a joy. All right, the midlife metabolism mystery, why big meals suddenly feel bigger. Talk to us about that.
SPEAKER 15 :
As we age, we aren't making the same amount of digestive enzymes that we did as a kid. So we aren't able to break down and process the food that we're eating, and when you continue to eat the same amount that you did when you were younger, you will have more undigested food, more symptoms, gas, bloating, indigestion, constipation, diarrhea, acid reflux, and it's because our enzyme production is low, so that is the biggest reason that I've seen with most people.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay, why, and dumb question maybe on my part, but why does it slow down?
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, what happens is your system isn't making the same amount of enzymes. Okay. Let's say you ate a huge piece of, you know, a huge steak before.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 15 :
Now you eat a huge steak, and you're like, oh, my goodness, I overate. Then you had the baked potato. And all those things that you used to be able to process, you no longer can break it down. We make enzymes to break down our protein and our carbohydrates, and our food source has gotten worse. less than adequate, our farming situation, the food that we're actually eating. So we're not eating quite as good of food as we used to, to say the least. So this enzyme production in our body is decreased because of that. You're hard-pressed to find somebody in normal life that has perfect digestion. And so things are slowing down. People are putting weight on. They're not feeling as good as they used to. Hormonal system is getting altered. And now we have a bunch of Americans who struggle with weight, and it's not because we're fat and lazy Americans. It's because our food source is so poor, and our digestive enzymes aren't being made the way they're supposed to.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay. So is it all age, or is it a combination of everything you just said?
SPEAKER 15 :
It's a combination of everything, because we're seeing it in the kids, too. Okay. Kids still have a chance because their systems are young and youthful and working, but they're being fed a whole source of food that I didn't have when I was a kid. So I was able to have building blocks that You know, our kids now, they don't have available to them in general.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay. So it's not just age. It can affect even young people differently than even you and I were young, for example. So at the end of the day, you know, you may eat something that even a few years ago you may have ate and said, well, it doesn't bother me, but it sure does today. That's not you. That can be a lot of factors, I guess, is what I'm trying to get at.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, it's a ton of factors. You know, the other thing is it does have to do with, you know, What are the choices of the food that you're eating? How sedentary are you? What are your other habits? Medications and things like that really alter it. We're much more medicated than we used to be. It used to be Tums and Rolaids and Maalox and things like that. Now you've got just a grocery list of drugs that people are taking for digestion. And really the problem is we're not making enough enzymes anymore. And, you know, I've been solving that for 34 years by giving my patients high-quality digestive enzymes, insisting even healthy patients take them so that they get more nutrition every meal. And the unhealthy ones, if they don't want to change their diet, at least they'll have a chance to break down some of the gunk that they're putting in and not suffer so much because of it. You know, I don't encourage keep eating poorly. But, you know, you do find you feel better if you're going to go out, you know, eat a whole – let's just say thanksgiving meal with everything and overeat well my goodness take the enzymes take the enzymes you will feel so much better at the end of the night and want to participate with the family
SPEAKER 03 :
I'm getting to the point, and maybe, again, because I'm just getting older and I'm not sure wiser is the right word, Dr. Julie, I think just a conversation you and I have had over the course of now a couple of years, I think for me I'm getting to the point where it's like, you know, as much as everything looks great and it is and it's tasty and, yes, it is, but, you know, the ramifications afterwards are such where it's like, yeah, I know it tastes really good, but – at the end of the day do i really want that so i think for me i've learned that you know maybe a taste of that is okay but i can't have you know too much of that because if you do then you don't feel very well afterwards and i'm so tired of not feeling well after that that i don't anymore i just don't partake like i once did and of course the enzymes which we'll get to in a minute i know that helps greatly but i have found that even though they help a ton you know i just don't put it in your mouth in the first place and i know that sounds really elementary but it
SPEAKER 15 :
It kind of is. I mean, it really is. And, you know, I do think that as we're aware of digestion and our bodies and, you know, wanting to improve, you do sort of sort out the, you know, what should I do and what shouldn't I do? You do, you know, because you don't want to suffer with what it is that it's going to, you know, cause repercussions.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, it's sort of like – I'm trying to describe other things that we might do in life where you just overdo it. And I think for me on the food side especially, I think most people can relate to that because it's one of those things that you literally can say, geez, I really overdid it. Or maybe another example of that is you're somebody that never exercises, so you're going to get into the mode of exercising, which as anybody would – know and tell you, you can't go all out the first time, because if you do, you're not going to walk the next day, because the ramifications are such that your body's not used to that, so you're really going to pay for it the next day. So you take that slowly. I think in a lot of ways, Dr. Julie, overeating can be very much the same way.
SPEAKER 15 :
I think exactly the truth on that one. So, you know, you're wise on that one, and you do start to pay a little bit more mind on what it is that you should be doing, shouldn't be doing, and But the digestive enzymes for me is such a nice trick because even people suffering with acid reflux way after the meal. Or, you know, oh, my gosh, I've got to go get something for it, you know, take a couple of enzymes, take three or four of them, and watch it go away within the next 15 or 20 minutes.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay, I had a question even that came in after you were on with us the last time. So let's talk about the enzymes and AbsorbAid, and then there's two different forms of it now of what people are noting, and there's like the regular and there's like the super-duper ones. You know, talk about that, and is there any major differences?
SPEAKER 15 :
There actually is. In the regular ones, it's the basic formula that I've basically been saying to my patients, this is the one that you need to take when you're just wanting a basic enzyme. It has the ability to break down proteins and carbohydrates and vegetables, including dairy products. So it does a bang-up job. There may be equal companies, but this one does exactly what it should do as far as digestive enzymes. Then they have one that is called the platinum. It's absorbate platinum, and it has 12 different things in it. It's like the enzymes on steroids. It's got a bunch more enzymes. It's got probiotics in it. And, you know, for people who, you know, are having digestive problems, who really want to break down the meal even more so and see the differences. There is a difference in the two, but it doesn't want to lessen the one that's the basic.
SPEAKER 03 :
And for those of you listening, and I always get this question, which one do you take, John? And I don't know. I guess because I understand the quality of things and I've been in that good, better, best world for so long on the retail end of things my whole life, Dr. Julie, that I understand the value of value. best and typically it's not always that way but in this case it is so I'm just I'm one of those folks because there's not that much difference in the cost sides of things I just buy the platinum and use it yeah I mean I do both you know I sell them both in the office and whenever I'm low I just I grab whatever and so I always have one or the other at the house and you know when I am feeling like whoo
SPEAKER 15 :
I do take the platinum, but it's a 50-50 for me.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay. Now, for those of you listening, and I'm one of those guys too, Dr. Julie, I have this phobia, partially because of how I was raised. I have this phobia of it's called phoro, fear of running out. So I'm one of those where I don't just have one bottle. I'll have a couple. You know, one or two spares always because it's just me. So I don't run out because of that. And again, because of that, I just buy the platinum and I always have a couple of bottles on hand. And for those of you listening, I take it. And I know I've mentioned this before. Maybe you're just picking this up for the first time today. I take it at night before bed. And, you know, depending upon how the day goes and what I'm doing and so on, I'm kind of a faster. As you know, I don't do a lot during the day, but maybe I'll take one during the day if I feel like I need to. For all of you listening, I'm here to tell you it's one of the best things you can ever do, and I think it's a great sleep aid as well.
SPEAKER 15 :
Me too. I mean, I was out gardening the other day. I was so achy and stiff, and my hands were killing me, and I took a couple before I went to bed, and I was just pleasantly surprised that I wasn't so uncomfortable, and I did sleep better because of it. Those enzymes have the ability to break down inflammation when you're not putting food in the belly. It has the ability to break down poisons and toxins and viruses, so Whenever I feel a little under the weather, I pop the enzymes. When I've overdone it, I pop the enzymes. And because it's an all-vegan formula, it's simply like eating the bromelain from the pineapple and the papaya and all the different things that they've thrown in there that are all natural. Yeah.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay, so you said a moment ago, you pop one, you pop two. Normally for me, it's like you one or two, depending upon what I ate and how I feel and so on. Typically for me, it's just one at night before I go to bed. Can you overdose on these things, I guess is my question.
SPEAKER 15 :
You probably can. I've never tried and I've never heard of it.
SPEAKER 03 :
You'd have to take a bunch, though, to really feel bad taking them, right?
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, and you'd probably get a bellyache, but it is all natural vegetables and fruit and things like that, so it's not a drug.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay. Okay. Talk to us about the food side, because I know it's something that does correlate with what we're talking about. And again, the better you can regulate the things going in, I kind of look at it. like this, Dr. Julie, again, being kind of a car guy coming out of my background and so on, you know, filters. Filters are a big thing, you know, you have them for air, you have them for oil, other things. And filters are necessary for, you know, the lifeblood of the vehicle. And, you know, filters can get dirty. I also know that the cleaner you keep things going in, the less the filter has to do going out. And at the end of the day, things just work better. I'm assuming when we start talking about our gut, the things we put in matter because the more crap we put in, the more work it has to do on the way out per se.
SPEAKER 15 :
It's absolutely true. And so I always take a look when I'm trying to convince somebody to follow my program, which is just quite simple as far as food goes. I say it's like somebody dumped a two-year-old, a sick two-year-old off at your front door and you're supposed to fix them naturally. Okay, what are you going to fix? What are you going to make them? You're going to make them protein. You're going to make them cooked steamed vegetables. You're going to give him some fruit. You're going to feed him water. And those are the foods that are actually going to repair the body. So when you start giving them cereal and bread and coffee and sports drinks and Doritos and things in packages and boxes and cans, I mean, I'm focused all these years that I've been doctoring on digestion. And even I am Very surprised at how quickly digestion can change with somebody when they just do the right things for even a week long. A week long, they're like, oh, my goodness, I'm not constipated. I feel much better. I'm not bloated. And it's just it's so simple. And you really can eat quite well. I mean, you're going to eat like a king if you eat that way.
SPEAKER 03 :
All right, talk to us about fiber. That's another thing where I think there's, I was mentioning this to somebody the other day, and I got to tell you this because, you know, we talk so much about these things. So, you know, my dad's been having some issues getting towards the end of life. He has Alzheimer's and so on. So I spent a bunch of time this weekend at his facility. And, you know, in a lot of cases, Dr. Julie, you're just really, you're sitting and monitoring and trying to spend time and so on. And, you know, let's be honest, there's a TV in the room and it's kind of on in the background. And I told my wife at one point, I'm like, you know, I've been watching this same channel, and it's just kind of on repeat, if you would. And I get it. In a lot of cases, the same commercials are going to pop in. But I told her, I said, you know, there isn't one single commercial involving food that I've watched in the past several hours that isn't crap at the end of the day. None of what's been advertised should you be eating in the first place.
SPEAKER 15 :
It's unbelievable.
SPEAKER 03 :
And I don't watch a lot of TV, so that one was kind of a new one for me, Dr. Julie.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, I don't either, but I am just aghast at the fact that just normal stuff isn't advertised. You can see how these minds are being changed because of the fact that all they're seeing is to be happy, to have the best time, to have the most taste. You have to go and drink all these weird drinks and have all this food that's You know, I mean, there's a lot of ingredients that are really just toxic, poisonous and just, you know, really.
SPEAKER 03 :
And the reason I mention that is one of the ads was a cereal ad. And by the way, it's a cereal that, you know, I won't name the name because I don't want to be derogatory that way. But it was a cereal, by the way, that I wouldn't touch. I wouldn't eat because I know what's inside of it. And yet it's being advertised as, oh, this is high fiber. It's healthy for you. It's going to help you feel better. This, that and the other. And I'm thinking to myself after talking to you all these years, no, it won't.
SPEAKER 15 :
I know. It's quite amazing. And, you know, what happens with that is then, you know, parents are feeding the kids cereal and the kids are like, hey, I need cereal before breakfast. And then you're expecting the kids to play nice, be smart. Pay attention. And really, you've just taken away their ability to possibly participate and, you know, act normal. And then they have behavioral problems. And really what they are is just being fed poor food.
SPEAKER 04 :
Correct.
SPEAKER 15 :
So, you know, feed them some eggs, feed them some bacon, feed them some, you know, more eggs, whatever. Feed them last night's dinner. And you're going to find that your kid is, you know, smarter and, you know, has great behavior and sleeps well and isn't fidgety and whatever. You know, it's just the food.
SPEAKER 03 :
It's amazing. Okay, so the fiber question, though, this comes up a lot because a lot of commercials talk about fiber and get your fiber. And this equals X amount of your daily need and this, that, and the other. Although the things that I'm looking at, again, as I said a moment ago, these are items that, frankly, I wouldn't eat whether you wanted the fiber, needed the fiber or not. And I think there's misconception on what should we eat. And this is where I'm going with this. What should we eat to get fiber? Because I don't think it's what TV says.
SPEAKER 15 :
No, it's not. And there is fiber in grains, but I always think of fiber as vegetables. I mean, that's your broccoli, your cauliflower, your asparagus. Every one of the vegetables has fiber. That is the thing that if you're constipated, you will actually have normal bowel movements. This is the thing that your body does need to help clean out the rest of the system. We're not talking popcorn and grains and another roll and another piece of pizza. That is carbohydrates. that, you know, do have fiber in them, but that's not what you would feed that two-year-old kid.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay. All right. Healthy fats. That's another one where, again, that's one thing I've learned a lot of here lately with my dad and his Alzheimer's and dementia and so on is our brains need a certain amount of healthy fat because that's what it consists of and it needs that and it feeds off of it. And yet, in a lot of ways, because, again, of television and training and so on, we're not getting the right kind of fats today.
SPEAKER 15 :
That's true. So, you know, the healthy fats come in the form of avocado and as much fish as you can eat, vary your fish just because you don't want to eat it from the same source. You know, we do have, you know, not clean oceans and things like that. You know, you can get them from, you know, good olive oil and, you know, there's a lot of olive oils that aren't so great that you do want to, you know, spend the extra money and use that on your vegetables, use that on your salads. You could use avocado oil and things like that. So, There's just, you know, endless amounts of lists of them. And once you actually understand, you go, oh, you know, like, I'm sorry, I have to say this one. Hellman's mayonnaise. I'm so sad. It is the best tasting mayonnaise ever. And yet it has, you know, seed oils and it's, you know, not the healthiest of foods, but it's in the basis of all the recipes we grew up with.
SPEAKER 04 :
Mm hmm.
SPEAKER 15 :
So, you know, I'm learning to make my own mayonnaise just so that I, you know, can put in what I want to put in and, you know, feel good about, you know, making a cucumber salad or potato salad or whatever I need the mayonnaise for tuna.
SPEAKER 03 :
You just brought up a great point, too, and something I learned when I lost all of my weight back in 2010 was condiments, you really have to be careful because you're thinking, oh, I'm just putting a little bit of this and a little bit of that on. Well, by the time it's all said and done, you've put a lot more on than you think. And most condiments in general, ketchup, for example, not good for you.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, I mean, it's true. When you really do look at the ingredients and then look at the calories and look at the sugar and, you know, I don't read labels like crazy. I think mostly because I used to and now I know what's in it.
SPEAKER 03 :
Right.
SPEAKER 15 :
Right. But, you know, you get on any app and just take a look at, you know, some of the very basics. And, you know, I love... nuts and things like that, but the best way to actually have the nuts, especially something like almonds, is you don't just eat the almonds out of the package. You want to put them in a bowl of water, soak them overnight, pop the skin off, and now you actually have a nut that's absorbable, it's good for you, it's high in protein, but when you see that pile of skin sitting there, it looks like pencil shavings. And you're like, wow, how could I possibly break that down? Eating wood.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 15 :
That's right. So nuts are better when they're soaked overnight, and that's because it does release enzymes in the nuts that make them available to your system.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay. All right. Lastly, of course, two things, water and moving. In other words, water and exercise. Talk to us about that before we close out.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, by the time that you're thirsty, you're already dehydrated. So if you wake up in the morning, have two glasses of water, just force yourself. It costs nothing. It costs no time and no money to do that. You drink a couple of glasses of water. When you're a little hungry after breakfast, have another glass of water. If you've had lunch and you're hungry after lunch, have another glass of water. You're supposed to be getting 8 to 10 to 12 glasses in a day. We're talking cups. And, you know, that's not hard stretch. You just have to remember to do it. If your knees are achy and you have bags under the eyes and your joints ache and you're tired and fatigued, you are usually dehydrated. So, you know, the other thing is we, you know, Europeans have a tendency to eat and then walk, have their dinner, go out for a walk. If you could put your tennis shoes on when you come home from work, cook your dinner and don't even think about it. Just go for a walk. A 10 minute, take your watch, go out 10 minutes, turn around, come back 10 minutes. It increases the lymph in the body, which is the drainage system. It makes nutrition more available to the body. It allows digestion to work better. It allows you to sleep better. And it's simply just moving. I'm not talking, you know, cleaning the house. I'm talking go for a walk. Right.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay. All right. Last one before we let you go. We didn't mention, where do folks get absorbate?
SPEAKER 15 :
They can go to the website, and they can get some free samples on there. That website is naturesources.com. And they can also get 20% off for free samples if they call the 1-800 number. And you have to just use the code radio so they know they listen to your show. And that's 1-800-827-7656. Great.
SPEAKER 03 :
Dr. Julie, as always, I appreciate it. Always a joy. I learn something every time you're here.
SPEAKER 15 :
Me too. Thank you.
SPEAKER 03 :
You're very welcome. Have a great one. Good evening. And Dr. Scott's up next. And by the way, you talk about somebody that thinks the way that not only Dr. Julie, but a lot of the other folks that we have on Health and Wellness Wednesdays. You can hear Scott even fill in for me at times on Wednesdays. He is your guy. Talk to him today if you want a really great doctor. 303-663-6990.
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Thank you. The Rich Guy.
Join John Rush as he delves into the myths and realities surrounding EV chargers and their impact on insurance policies. With expert analysis and insights from trusted sources, John sets the record straight, ensuring listeners have access to accurate and reliable information. The episode further explores the decline in transgender identification among youth, presenting intriguing data that suggests a shift in cultural perceptions.
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My advice to you is to do what your parents did. Get a job, sir. You haven't made everybody equal. You've made them the same, and there's a big difference.
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All right, we are back. Hour number two, Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Appreciate y'all listening. We're going to have a special guest with us, but as things happen, we may not actually have that guest, which is fine. We've got plenty to talk about. Sunny Kutcher will be joining us here at 430. We will definitely get her in and talk to her. Okay, something that... I wanted to really, I guess let me do it now because I was going to do this next hour. Let me do this now. And I did a little bit of research because I always want to be correct when I talk about certain things. And I've listened to others in media. Talk about EVs, EV chargers, and things like that. And there's, I think, a lot of misconceptions on this. And I've even heard some folks out there, some, you know, air quote experts, talk about EV chargers in your home and that it, in a lot of cases, if there's a fire because of that, your policy wouldn't cover it, so on and so forth. And in some cases, it might raise your premiums and all of that. Now, I will say this. Every single insurance company isn't created equal, and there might be some policies out there where this might become an issue, although I did a little bit of checking with our insurance folk we have here, the Pauls, if you would, Paul Leuenberger, Paul Inigro, GIA, and Paul Leuenberger. And in their research, that's not the case. So the companies that they broker for and so on, they did some question and answers with, and no, that's not the case. You can put an EV charger in, at least in this particular area, all in our listening audience area where they can actually write policies. That's not the case. So there isn't anything that you can do when it comes to your EV charger that's going to, quote, unquote, void your policy or add a rate or anything along those lines. So, again, there's people out there that will mention some of these things. And, again, I don't have any skin in the game here one way or the other when it comes to insurance. I just want you guys all to have the right information. And reality is, no, that's not the case. Maybe it is in some parts of the country, but I kind of doubt it because if it's not here in Colorado, I don't know why it would be any different anywhere else. So I have not found any companies between, you know, again, GIA and Paul Leuenberger, which they both have a lot of companies they represent. I haven't seen from them the research they've done. There isn't anything where if you put an EV charger in, you're going to somehow, you know, void your policy or they won't insure you or, or, or. That just isn't the case. So I just want to make sure I set the record straight because there has been some chatter out there along those lines where people talk about, you know, well, if you do, you know, these chargers and you have any kind of a fire, your policy may not cover said fire, so on and so forth. Again, not with the research that we have done. That, in fact, is not the All right, we're taking an early break. Going to change things up a little bit for this particular hour. Again, Cindy Kutcher is going to join us here at the bottom of the hour. Al Smith, Golden Eagle Financial. And by the way, Al's got his own program from 2 to 2.30. You can always listen in. But listen to this interview Al did of late. You can actually go to the website, find Al, and have a face-to-face with him. Just go to klzradio.com and find Al there.
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TJ here with KLZ and Al Smith of Golden Eagle Financial. And Al, I have a question for you. I've been putting money away for a while in a savings account or maybe a couple of investment accounts, but what am I doing wrong and what can you do better than that?
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Well, I think a savings account is important because all the financial gurus, including myself, agree you should have three to six months savings that you have ready liquid access to. But retirement planning is a bit more long-term and And it's a bit more strategic. We want to take a look at the sum of money you'll need way into the future. And we want to look at how that money can last by providing you income for as long as you live.
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What kind of planning or strategy do you provide for folks with that that have a big savings but haven't made that next step?
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Well, that's a good question. If someone has a large amount in savings, one of the things I do is we have a conversation about their risk tolerance. Nobody's comfortable losing money, but having money in the market over a long period of time is a mechanism to accumulate wealth. And so we talk about the different levels of risk and the different products that are available. And we don't put everybody into one box, but I have an enormous assortment of financial products. And it's not that there's good ones or bad ones. It's there are some that are more appropriate for some people, but not for others.
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And that sounds excellent. How can folks get in touch with you for that meeting?
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You can reach me at 303-744-1128. And if I'm not there, it goes to voicemail, but I return my voicemails promptly. And we could have a conversation in the office. If you live a considerable distance away, we can have a long phone conversation or a Zoom call, whichever you would prefer.
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And as always, you can find him at klzradio.com slash money. Al, thanks so much for joining us today.
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Well, thank you, TJ. Thanks for the conversation.
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You bet.
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Putting reason into your afternoon drive. This is John Rush.
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All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver's Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. And appreciate, by the way, all the text messages coming in. Some of these I can read. Some of them, you know, because they're personal, I won't. Somebody did text a minute ago and said, hey, by the way, when you do these chargers and stuff, make sure that you've got a qualified electrician putting them in because they've seen... A lot of, let's just say, mistakes made when these things get installed, things that aren't done right, loose wiring, improperly installed chargers themselves, so on and so forth. So, yes, make sure you've got somebody highly qualified if you're going to put an EV charger in on any level, on the commercial side or on your home side, and make sure the things are all dialed in. And somebody else said, this is from earlier, about a year ago, I was in the King Soopers. down on Federal and Bellevue, and while in the produce department, someone there tried to take my purse out of the buggy. Yesterday, a woman told me that someone was trying to take her purse out of the car. Just a heads up for those of you out there, you know, making sure that you're watching your purses and so on. Thank you, by the way. Yes, that's just solidifying what I was talking about earlier, that, yeah, keep your head on a swivel at all times. I'm not a woman, but I don't even identify as one. know what i ever want to but if i had a purse i would somehow you know hook that thing through strap it on where even if they tried to take it it's hooked to the buggy hooked to the you know shopping cart around the handle whatever if most of you guys have the ability to either you know tie it around there you can take the little hook off and back on whatever yeah i would really make sure that you've got that thing dialed in and somebody can't just you know walk off of that because sometimes you know you'll go to pick something out of the The whatever, you know, the shelf, whatever, reach down, whatever the case may be. You've turned your back to the cart ever so slightly, and all of a sudden, voila, somebody's right there, you know, taking your stuff. So, yeah, be really careful. Thank you, by the way, for that tip. I appreciate that, and I know our listeners do as well. All right, there's a report. Somebody sent me this. One of your listeners. Thank you, by the way. And as a side note, a lot of you send me different things, text message wise or email wise. I do read all of them. I may not talk about every single thing you guys send me because sometimes I just don't have time. Other things come up, callers and so on. You know, sometimes the show gets derailed, which, by the way, is not a bad thing. I'm never complaining about that. But sometimes it goes a different direction than what I had planned. And then, by the way, other things come up and I never get around to talking about that particular topic. This is one, though, that somebody sent me and I thought, you know what? We need to talk about this one today because it's interesting and it's a trend. There's a report out talking about transgender identification is in a free fall among young Americans. In other words, this whole idea that it's hip and cool to be a transgender, which I think, by the way, has been pushed by a lot of parents because it's sort of the vogue thing to have your kid be a transitioning kid, which these parents, by the way, are absolute dodo head, knucklehead morons. They really should be brought up on child abuse charges as far as I'm concerned. Anybody that would promote their kid changing their gender, well, you can't change your gender, but you get my drift. Changing their sexual identity, let me say it that way. Utter knuckleheads. These are parents that shouldn't have been a parent in the first place. Unfortunately, there's no test to be a parent. We test for everything else, by the way. You have to have a license for a lot of other things, but not to be a parent. Any knucklehead can be one. And there's a lot of knucklehead parents out there, case in point. You know, this idea that it's really the in thing, the vogue thing to have your kid be a transgender, that's waning. And basically the kids, I think, themselves are saying, yeah, not for me. And you have to wonder when it comes to these kids. Is it because they've been around some of these, you know, for example, the athletes whereby a female now has to compete against a male athlete? You know, have enough of these kids read, seen, been around this sort of an environment where they're thinking, well, wait a minute. You know, I'm not an adult. I'm not a parent, but I can see that this isn't right. I can see this is just wrong on all levels. And now they're thinking, well, wait a minute, I don't know that I want to be this. So there's several quotes coming out of this report. This report authorized by Eric Kaufman, director of the Center and professor of politics at the University of Buckingham, found that transgender and queer identification has dropped sharply among Americans in the Gen Z category. uh... generation since two thousand twenty three so twenty twenty three copman analyze troves of data from recent surveys about gender and sexuality including the foundation of individual rights and expression survey and surveys from other elite institutions like and over phillips academy in boston and brown university whether trans or queer identities will drop to 2010 levels is an open question, but the fact that both have declined sharply in just two years is a startling and unanticipated post-progressive development that the education and media establishments will be reluctant to acknowledge. Kaufman wrote of his research in an article published to UnHerd. This was this past Tuesday. Yesterday, analyzing raw data from the most recent FIRE survey, which polled over 60,000 students in 2025, Kauffman found that just 3.6% of respondents identified as a gender other than male or female. That figure compared to 5.2% in 2024 and 6.8% in 2022 and 2023. In other words, the share of trans-identified students here effectively halved in just two years he wrote. So in other words, it's half... of what it was just two years ago. Now, keep in mind, that percentage is still very small. It went from, what, 6.8% down to 3%, 3.6%. So it's in half. That 3.6%, by the way, is still a very small portion. Koppen found that surveys at Andover Phillips Academy and Brown University showed an even more pronounced trend. At Andover, 9.2% identified as neither male or female. And in 2023, it crashed to just 3% in 2025. At Brown University, that percentage has dropped from 5% to 2.3% in 2025. So here's the bottom line, folks. It's not as quote-unquote trendy as it once was. Meaning, all of the things I have talked about, especially on the transgender end of things, I'm right. It's a fad. It really is mental when it's all said and done. And I think one more thing I wanted to add to what I said a little bit ago about how I think some of these kids have woken up to this. I think the fact that there are now a lot of kids that transitioned that then in their early 20s, for example, are now on some speaking circuits running around telling younger kids, don't do this. Biggest mistake you could ever make in your entire life. Don't do this. Don't make the same mistake I made is what a lot of these young people now are running around saying. I think all of that has had an effect. And again, it's just not as trendy as it once was. It even talks about how the trans and queer trends have peaked. Freshmen were more likely to be non-conforming in their gender and sexuality than seniors, he noted. Now that the BTQ, bisexual, trans, and queer, or questioning identification is in decline, the reverse is true. Younger students are less BTQ than older students in their colleges. This is a sign that the quote-unquote fashions are changing. The other thing you have to wonder is, have parents, maybe, hopefully, have they woken up to this that, yeah, maybe this isn't so good after all? Maybe when our kids that are younger come to us and say, you know, Mom, Dad, I think I'm a girl if they're actually a boy, or I think I'm a boy if they're actually a girl, maybe parents are starting to say, well, you know, let's think this through. Are you? Are you? Probably not. Let's sit down and have a conversation. Well, let's talk about this. This, by the way, I think is a real black eye to the left. Because keep in mind, the left has pushed this nonsense heavily because it's a Marxist ideology. Let's confuse the masses. And transgenderism is nothing but confusion. Mass confusion on the part of these individuals. And you'll hear Neil Boron on the National Crawford Roundtable talk about this a lot. He'll tell you it's demonic. I can't disagree with Neil. I believe he's right. So is it improved mental health? This article goes on to say, yes, in part, less anxious and especially depressed students is linked with a smaller share identifying as trans, queer, or bisexual, he assessed. But not entirely. Mental illness fell after the pandemic, but the sexuality and gender shift happened at least a year later. All groups, including LGBT, got less mentally ill after the pandemic, he continued. So, by the way, he's not saying this, but I am. Transgenderism is a mental illness. Period. In my opinion, case closed. These are very mentally disturbed individuals where they think, hey, I'm in the wrong body. You don't think that unless you have a mental illness. I'm sorry, folks. It's just the way it is. Sorry, but not sorry. Those are the facts. And I've said this before, and I'll keep saying it. This is anti-God through and through. You're basically saying, God, you screwed up. I'm going to fix this. That's what you're saying when you're claiming to be transgender or when you are transgender and you're claiming that you're in the wrong body. That's really what you're saying. God, you screwed up. I'm fixing this. You're taking matters into your own hands at that point. You're saying, you're not God. You screwed up. Even if you are there, you messed up, and I'm going to now fix this. And I've said this many, many times. He didn't screw up in how he made you. So the decline in anxiety and depression occurred within trans, bisexual, and queer groups as much as among others, so it wasn't the case that most of those who solved their emotional problems became heterosexual. He remarked that the rapid decline of trans and queer seems most similar to the fading of fashion or trend. It's happened largely independently of shifts in political beliefs and social media use, though improved mental health did play a role, he said. So, in other words, this whole transgenderism nonsense, in a lot of cases, has been sort of this fashion end of things. Like I keep saying, this really is, in a lot of cases, parents wanting to be trendy, edgy. My kid's a transgender. My kid's is transitioning. It's literally a bunch of nonsense. Stephen Carter Springs, go ahead.
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Good afternoon, Mr. John. Hey, man. Quick thought along what you're saying. The corollary to what you've been talking about has become a flurry of lawsuits from kids, like you're talking about, that said, don't do this. And they're suing parents, therapists, doctors, and everybody else involved, including some school administrator types, that thought this was just so cool. to be transgender and start cutting off body parts. And as you know, a lot of these kids, in fact, most kids, particularly when you're talking about like 12 to 18, they don't know whether they want to have cornflakes or ice cream for breakfast. And here we are, and I think parents have abdicated responsibility here as well as therapists. But this is what I'm calling the Attorney's Full Employment Act. because the lawsuits are just now spooling up. Good point. It's going to be interesting to see.
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Good point. You know, I hadn't really thought about that. Thank you, Steve, for adding that in. That's probably another layer here that you could factor in. I mean, several of the things I talked about, plus adding that on top, that's all why, in a way, this trend is heading down. And frankly, I think it's going to get cut in half again. Yeah, well, thank you for addressing it. It's important. Well, thank you, Steve. I appreciate you bringing that up as well. And I can't – he's right. That's another layer added on to what we're talking about, why this trend is declining. And frankly, it's going to keep declining. Now, I also – Sunny Kutcher is going to talk about this here in just one moment. She just sent me a couple of articles where – keep in mind that a lot of what just happened with Charlie Kirk and the fact that a lot of young people – are not following in the footsteps of the previous generations. And frankly, folks, we're seeing this even in the trades. They're actually becoming a lot more sensible than what you would have thought. There really is a big trend of these young people, A, wanting to work. wanting to be employed, wanting to do things on their own, not having the entitlement mentality that Andy and I talked about yesterday, realizing, wait a minute, I don't need to go to school for four years and have a six-digit figure debt and then hopefully find employment when I'm done. Wait a minute, I can actually make six figures shortly thereafter going into the trades, and I can apply myself and work hard, and the reality is they're doing that. Which also makes you want to wonder, it doesn't make me wonder, but it probably makes some wonder, does that play into this whole transgenderism nonsense end of things? In other words, kids are working. They're finding purpose, which there is purpose in work, by the way. They're realizing, wait a minute, I do have value at the end of the day, and I am in the right body, and I can celebrate who I am. And, oh, by the way, I can do all that and make some money at the same time? Huh. Funny how that works. And again, you layer on some of the other things that we're just talking about with Steve and what I mentioned even earlier. You layer all of that on top and it's like, OK, wait a minute. You know what? There is hope. There is hope for the next generation. And by the way, there always is. And trends reverse themselves, which is exactly what you're starting to see. And I firmly believe that you're going to... This is where if you're in the college end of things and you own one or you're a part of one or you're on the board of one or whatever, you probably ought to be thinking about what your future enrollment looks like because it's not going to be what it is now. That's my prediction. You're going to see a lot of these kids... wake up and realize, wait a minute, I can go make really solid money and make a really good income and do that without carrying, again, 50, 60, 70,000 plus in debt, in some cases 100,000 plus in debt, and I can make more money than some of those that are actually coming out with full-fledged degrees. In fact, I can go into the trades and make what a doctor does, which, by the way, they can. Wait a minute. Why would I want to go through eight years, ten years of medical school when I can make what they're making doing something else and not carry all that debt? In fact, if you look over a 25, 30-year time frame, the person in the trades will make far more money. So it's interesting how that works and how that is. All right. Sonny should be joining us here momentarily. Let's do this. Cub Creek Heat and Air Conditioning. Speaking of the trades, by the way, they'll help you with your furnace. They've got a great furnace tune-up special right now. Just go to klzradio.com and find them.
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All right, we are back. Dan and Blackhawk, go ahead. We'll squeeze you in here before Sonny. Welcome, sir.
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Yeah, I'll be quick. So what age group is Gen Z again?
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Ooh. I'd have to look. Go ahead, keep talking, and I'll find it really quick.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay, so, well, the reason why I'm saying that is we homeschool... 13 to 28 years of age.
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13 to 28. Okay.
SPEAKER 08 :
So I have two Gen Zers and one that's two years older than a Gen Z. And all the kids, all my kids are working. My youngest, I told you last week, he's with a NASA contractor, an electrical engineer. Right. you know, and my, my middle one, he's in the Navy. I think he, I got to talk to him. He's going to, he's probably going to be a career, um, military guy. If he can, he's going to try to go into the air force, but they got out of school with no debt because they worked when they were younger, uh, being, um, in high, uh, high school, we allowed them to work during the day because we did enough education. My son, My youngest son scored a 34 out of 35 on, I think, the ACG. And he only studied two hours for it. So the kids, and they're all three married. My two youngest already have kids. So they're bucking the trend of not wanting to work and not feeling good. So that's what I got to say. So we didn't go into that whole transgender thing. We taught them actual history and and who they are, you know?
SPEAKER 20 :
So that's what I got to say. No, great example, Dan. I appreciate that. Somebody also texted in along these lines and said, watch Art Club Movie for free. Aaron Lee speaks at events and has a case going to the Supreme Court. By the way, thank you, all of you listeners. You are fabulous. One more thing, too, that I think somebody said, too, is – To your point, my ex-wife and my oldest two kids' mom is a very highly paid specialist doctor in Nashville, and I still make more than double of what she does, but I also live simple. Granted, my business is on the large side of a small business, but still. Yeah, my comment back was, yeah, and you still built that from the ground up yourself, and that still counts as an example. Sonny, how are you? Welcome.
SPEAKER 07 :
How are you doing this week?
SPEAKER 20 :
I'm doing great. Good to have you. We're talking about the whole – I read an article a moment ago about transgenderism and the fact that it's actually declining in young people, Gen Z. There's actually half as many of them claiming to be that as there was, and I attribute it to all sorts of things, Sonny, and one of them is I really feel like a lot of the younger people are – A, they're learning that, wait a minute, I don't need to do what everybody else before me did. I can not go to college. I can go to the trades. I can make solid income. I can value myself that way. And I think, Sonny, these trends are being balked because, frankly, a lot of these young people, by the way, because of people like you and the message that you guys have, a lot of these young people are looking at this saying, wait a minute, time out. I don't have to do this the way it's been done. I can do this completely different. At the end of the day, I have high value.
SPEAKER 07 :
Absolutely. I think, you know, young people hopefully are seeing that this, you know, ideology does not fulfill. It does not bring purpose. And it is truly just a, you know, a tool of the left to steer them in a certain direction. So it is really great to see, you know, some of those those trends coming out, and I think it, I just saw something on Twitter where it's new data showing that Christianity is actually surging in the U.S. Bible sales are up 41.6%, app downloads, I guess they're talking about, oh, religion and spirituality type apps, downloads are up almost 80%, and Christian music streaming is up 50% on Spotify. So since 2019... 50% of Christian music, contemporary Christian music. So I think that that is, you know, reflective of, you know, putting all these trends together. I think it's so reflective of the way that people are interpreting the last few years and the direction that the country had gone in as far as mainstream narratives, and I think people are just not buying these narratives anymore, which is fantastic.
SPEAKER 20 :
I agree. I think, Sunny, some of this even was happening, I had a text message come in a moment ago from a good friend talking about how some of these pastors are talking about how Some of their greatest now attenders, church-wise and so on, are coming from this younger generation. And frankly, it wasn't just Charlie Kirk that caused that. Some of that was already starting to happen before Charlie Kirk's assassination, Sonny.
SPEAKER 07 :
It wasn't. I think that's what made him get so on the rise, because he, especially at these college campuses, which we obviously, people like you and I, don't have necessarily a total... you know, bird's eye view of college campuses these days. I actually want to make a point to kind of go to UCLA a little bit more just to kind of like explore and see what the vibe is like there as far as where, you know, pulse on culture as far as college campuses go. But I think that's the point is that people are really, I mean, this is really the topic of conversation, at least one of the major topics of conversation on college campuses within that age range. You were just talking about Gen Z a moment ago, and I think that Charlie had such a window into what these kids are thinking about and really getting those ideas flowing as far as like, okay, wait, what actually makes sense? I think another person who does a really good job of that is Billboard Dad. He goes to all of those schools and talks about specifically transgenderism and says like, you know, I don't want my daughter to, you know, whatever. And I think that these are such important things. I think people like that, like it's just such a prevalent conversation that it has to be moving the needle in that age range and that demographic because of people like Charlie who are on these college campuses and really, you know, encouraging people to think critically.
SPEAKER 20 :
Yeah. And no, no. And by the way, everything you just said, I can't I can't disagree with anything you said. And you have probably a better feel for campuses than even I do. I mean, I go to some occasionally ballgames, things like that, events, but I'm definitely not in or around. college campus and frankly never have been because i never went to college so i don't really have that experience that even a lot of our listeners have or you have sunny so i i tend to not be able to speak to that in the same way you can because i i just don't have those same life experiences understandable understandably so i um yeah i mean especially you know with the work that we do i'm always seeing clips of just different things on college campuses and it
SPEAKER 07 :
It's just wild to see the direction, the Marxist direction. And that's why, you know, people like Kamala and Tim Walz, like they really do target this demographic because they know they know that they're so vulnerable. And I mean, it's just like this is how they get away with these things. Like this is why local politics is also so important. And I think that's, you know, something that's just kind of been lost on the younger generations as well. In Minnesota, they're doing driver's licenses for all, allowing illegal aliens to obtain free government issued photo IDs. So, you know, I thought that that wasn't happening at all. But apparently that is now being signed into law in Minnesota. So I think that these are just like. things that young people can really start paying attention to if there's going to be a way for them to kind of break into, because I do think that despite all these trends that we're talking about, there is still this kind of apathy towards like politics and change and what, you know, is going on with our crime and our public safety, especially here in LA. I think that, you know, this, like these are types of things where it's like young people could probably be like, well, that doesn't make sense. Like they would, they need a barrier of entry in order to get involved in things like this. And I would say that that's the most, important thing on a college campus.
SPEAKER 20 :
Yep. No, I think that you're spot on. And as I was talking about in the last segment, how I think, Sonny, even some parents, and not all, because there's still some screwy parents out there, and a lot of parents of transgender kids think it's really a great thing that they're transitioning as sort of this vogue thing. But I think some of that trend is even changing. I think some of these parents are waking up to the fact, wait a minute, our kids can basically do something other than college, make a solid... you know, income when it's all said and done, not have combined debt. Cause a lot of times parents have school debt, not just the kids. So a lot of these parents are looking at saying, wait a minute, we can go a different trajectory here. And at the end of the day, as a family be a lot better off. Oh, well, wait a minute. Maybe we should reconsider this whole trade thing. And by the way, that's happening.
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, that's absolutely happening. I think people are seeing that so much more now is that there's just, I mean, that's what Charlie was saying. What college is a scam, you know, um, And I really do feel that they have become such indoctrination camps at this point, especially, you know, with the work that we do. Like we're just we're seeing the results of like what these brainwash college campuses are like. And so I think it's so great that if people can see that, hey, maybe this is not the end all be all. Maybe this is not necessarily, you know, where I'm going to find my most fulfilled life. You know, pass. I think it's so eye opening that so many young people are choosing different options or at least exploring them.
SPEAKER 20 :
I, by the way, I'm excited. And I said this a moment ago and I mean this. We can run along for a little while, and these trends kind of keep going this direction. And all of a sudden, there's a big hiccup. Something happens. A generation decides, wait a minute, to your point, let's wake up to what's really going on around us. And the reality is, I don't want to do what previous generations did. I don't want $100,000 in school debt. I don't want to come out and wonder, am I only going to work at Starbucks after I'm done with that particular degree with all of that debt? And the trends start to shift, and you're seeing this right now. And it's, Sunny, not only happening, as you said a moment ago, it's not happening just on that work-college end of things, it's happening spiritually as well.
SPEAKER 07 :
Absolutely. And that's why, you know, even as your child is growing up, talking to them about thinking critically, talking to them about what other options there may be, how to kind of, you know, identify leftist propaganda and just like the way of like the matrix, like how can you, you know, be connected to your faith, your family, your country, God, and all of these things, while still becoming a, you know, thriving, prosperous member of society. And I think that that's one of our main goals with, you know, the educational resources that we create as an organization. And that's, I think, what, you know, what our niche really is in terms of this field, in terms of this this political world that we're in, if you can really find resources for you, your family, and specifically to talk with your child, even as they're in their teenage years, those could be really formative, defining, and actually moments that bring you together as parent and child or as family, allowing your child to kind of talk about more challenging topics as they're developing their ideas and their perspectives and learning from other people. So I think that, you know, if anything, these resources could definitely just be a great conversation starter, if nothing at all. So I really feel always so grateful to be able to, you know, share this with others and have these conversations because it is so important as You know, we just need to do everything we can to protect our country.
SPEAKER 20 :
Yeah, absolutely. One last thing before I let you go, because you sent me this, and this is interesting. Fans have launched a petition to replace Bad Bunny with George Strait for the Super Bowl. And by the way, I think that's great. I love these sorts of things. Question is, do you think that even if they get enough signatures, it will change the mind of the organization? Is it Jay-Z, Charlie, that does the NFL stuff, Jay-Z? It'll be interesting. Sonny, will that change Jay-Z's mind and make a shift there when it's all said and done?
SPEAKER 07 :
Wow, I have no idea, and I did not know that it was Jay-Z, so that's pretty wild.
SPEAKER 20 :
Yeah, he's actually in charge of the, you know, it's an outside group. The NFL doesn't run that. It's been that way for a number of years now. The NFL does not run the halftime show. In this case, it's contracted out to Jay-Z, so he's the one that actually makes the decision on who's going to be playing the halftime show, not the NFL. I mean, the NFL probably says yes or no, but they're not the one putting it all together.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right. Right. Wow. I mean, I had no idea. No, that's fascinating. And I don't think that he would care at all. I don't think that this petition would change. I don't think they're going to renege on their contract with Bad Bunny. I think you're right. I do think it's very interesting to see the narrative and that people are on the same page about certain things where they're like, wait, this is not what we're interested in. This is not what we want. And it's just another example of you know, industry, or I'm sorry, just a big giant in, you know, in mainstream, let's say, mainstream media that is just completely misreading the energy of the American people.
SPEAKER 20 :
Yep. Nope. I fully agree. All right. One last time. How do folks find Young Americans Against Socialism?
SPEAKER 07 :
Our website is the best place to check out our resources and get to know our organization, yas.org, Y-A-A-S.org. So you can find us there. You can also... you know, catch all of our links to our social media, but it's usually Yas underscore America. So we'd love to hear from you and, you know, give us a follow, stay in touch with our social media and definitely check out some of the interviews on our website of survivors of communism. So that's what we're trying to prevent from coming here.
SPEAKER 20 :
Absolutely. Sonny, as always, I appreciate it greatly. Thanks for all you guys do.
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, thank you so much. Talk to you soon.
SPEAKER 20 :
You bet. Have a great night. Sonny Kutcher again. Young Americans Against Socialism. Mile High Coin coming up next. We heard from David earlier, by the way, in the 3 o'clock hour. Find all of those items. Get them all rounded up. Put them in one place. Call David. Get an appointment made. It's free, by the way, to have all those items appraised. And then you might want to turn those into cash when you're all said and done. 720-370-3400.
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All right. You know, it's health and wellness on a Wednesday. And not that I carry this theme throughout, but we got done talking about, you know, young people, transgenderism. It's on the decline. Sonny Kutcher from Young Americans Against Socialism. They produce material that help young people understand what Marxism is all about and communism and so on. Well, something else you need to be paying attention to. Those of you that are parents, not that there's not enough already to pay attention to. This is one more thing now that you got to add into the thing as a parent to really watch. Chad GPT, and this will come along, by the way, and it already is happening in other AI platforms. So there's Gemini, which is Google's end of things. There's Gronk, which is Musk and his whole end of things. Chad GPT is Sam Altman. And there's one more that I can't think of off the top of my head, but there's several. Oh, Microsoft's. Got theirs. Okay. So Chad GPT. is now going to allow erotica for verified adults, Sam Altman said. Now, this is why you need to be paying attention to what your kids are doing, because OpenAI will soon lower restrictions on the content ChatGPT can produce, allowing the service to create erotica if users wish. Altman noted that the new functionality would only be applied to users who explicitly ask for it. He said the current restrictions on ChatGPT were the result of an abundance of caution around the mental health But he now believes the language model can treat adult users like adults. Now that we have been able to mitigate the serious mental health issues and have new tools, we're able to safely relax the restrictions in most cases. So in a few weeks, we plan to put out a new version of ChatGPT that allows people to have a personality that behaves more like what people liked about 4.0. We hoped it would be better. And if you want your chat GPT to respond in a very human like way or use a ton of emojis or act like a friend, chat GPT should do it. But only if you wanted to, because or not because we are usage maxing. He continued. It's a lot of speak around the fact that in the past they've not allowed you to have that adult interaction with. With a AI bot, but now you'll be able to. I'm simplifying what he basically said. Sam's a geek and can't hardly speak regular English, so let me simplify it. In other words, if you want AI to be your sex partner, quote unquote, virtually speaking, it will. Meaning you need to watch what your kids are doing. Because, again, this is what I don't know and it's not in this article. What's the verification process for how old you are going to be? Is it just a box you click that I'm 18 or older like a lot of websites are, by the way? So, for example, if you want to go to a gun website, in a lot of cases they will ask you to verify that you're 18 or 21 years of age. And to do that, you have to fill in your birth date, which, by the way, I never do. As long as you're past X age, as long as I'm born from 1980 and beyond, or 1980 and prior, I'm good to go. Actually, in today's world, it's 2000 and older. You're good to go. I don't ever put in my birth date. Just side note. None of their business. But point being... I don't know what the verification is going to be. Are you going to have to upload a driver's license, for example, so on and so forth? I don't know. And are they going to verify it through imagery and facial recognition and so on? It doesn't get into that, so I don't know. My gut feeling is it'll be a box you click. So for those of you that are parents that have young kids, male or female, doesn't matter, can be either or. Be careful what they're using when it comes to AI. And again, as I keep saying over and over again, this is why we have to be involved in AI and can't just turn our back on it like the church has done so many times. You have to be on the forefront of what's happening so you can be involved, so you know what's going on, and you can confront whatever it is that comes up inside of your own family. But this is coming, and it's not just chat GPT. This will be in all AI. Trust me when I say that. All right, Roof Savers of Colorado coming up next. Now, one thing you can't use AI for is fixing your roof. You just can't. Somebody physically, like Dave, has to come out, figure out what's going on with your roof, do a complete roof replacement analysis and or an extension of rejuvenation of your roof. In other words, make it like new again, making it last that much longer. 303-710-6916.
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In today's episode, we dive deep into the recent political maneuvers involving Jim Jordan's call for Jack Smith to testify. Explore the complexities of governmental oversight as we analyze Smith's recent press engagements and their implications on transparency. As we uncover the latest updates from the Judiciary Committee, we reveal the increasing tension between political figures in Washington. Join us for an insightful discussion that questions the integrity of the Justice Department under heavy political influence. Switching gears, we address the ongoing international conflict and the significant developments in the Israel-Hamas situation. With hostages recently released, the political and military strategies surrounding the conflict are evolving rapidly. Tune in as we discuss the consequences and Trump's assertive stance on Hamas disarmament, and examine how these political decisions could reshape the Middle East landscape. On the domestic front, we investigate California's contentious redistricting proposal and the implications of recent mail-in voting issues. With intense efforts to sway voter opinions, influential figures like Barack Obama are entering the conversation to influence grassroots movements. We dissect the potential impacts on upcoming elections and what these changes could mean for both California and the rest of the nation.
SPEAKER 07 :
We have breaking news. Jim Jordan calls Jack Smith to testify.
SPEAKER 08 :
Keeping you informed and engaged, now more than ever, this is Seculo. We want to hear from you. Share and post your comments or call 1-800-684-3110. And now your host, Logan Sekulow.
SPEAKER 07 :
Welcome to Sekulow. We got a great show today. I'm Logan Sekulow. Will Haines joining me in studio. Rick Ronell's going to be on a little bit later today. And we're talking about the breaking news that Jim Jordan has called Jack Smith to testify. Will, this is what's happening right now. That's right. Kind of all gets amped up after, remember, the hacks that were happening as Jack the Hacker. That's good. Hack and Jack. Old Hack and Jack was really looking into a lot of people's cell phone records. A lot of people who really had nothing to do with his investigation on President Donald Trump. Now that has now escalated things over the last few weeks, I would say, where now he's back in the news. Hack and Jack's back in the news.
SPEAKER 09 :
That's right. So last night, a letter was sent from the Judiciary Committee signed by the chairman, Jim Jordan, to the special counsel, Jack Smith, former special counsel, I should clarify. And it's talking about the investigation they are doing, their oversight investigation, into how the Biden-Harris Justice Department weaponized federal law enforcement.
SPEAKER 07 :
Slow it down. Slow it down.
SPEAKER 09 :
All right. I'm just letting you know. I know.
SPEAKER 07 :
I'm giving you the facts. I know. Just the facts. I know we only got three and a half minutes in this segment, but we've got to take it easy.
SPEAKER 09 :
So this letter, and we'll get into the specifics of what they're asking for in the next segment, but this follows the Judiciary Committee's oversight looking into how both the Special Counsel, the Department of Justice, the FBI were all weaponized against conservatives during the previous administration. And they have already spoken with multiple members of Jack Smith's team who are not willing to cooperate. Now, this is coming on the heels of Jack Smith giving interviews with people like Andrew Weissman saying that, you know, how you protect from show trials and how you protect... from kangaroo courts and things of that nature are by transparency however members of his own team are pleading the fifth amendment over 75 times in some cases when asked about things like where other members of congress swept up in this how many members of congress are their records on and those individuals are pleading the fifth before jim jordan's committee Now, what Jim Jordan is asking for here is a transcribed interview. This isn't going to be the 15 minutes of fame, Democrats and Republicans, before a committee in a hearing room televised on C-SPAN.
SPEAKER 07 :
Can we not get both?
SPEAKER 09 :
We probably end up with, here's the thing. We probably will get there, but Jim Jordan is conducting a very serious investigation of oversight here. And so what he's offering right now to Jack Smith, even though Jack Smith has not responded to previous correspondence, asking for records is for all of the records under the time that he was special counsel and, Any correspondence he had with political appointees or career officials of the Biden-Harris administration and all documents of communication you sent or received during your service as a special counsel. And then he's asked to also come in uh by that all those materials have to be by october 28th given to the committee as well as calling the committee to schedule a week and a half a transcribed interview now this is not a deposition it's a little more informal there can be some negotiations it's an olive branch saying we want to get your testimony but we're not bringing the full force of the committee yet If he doesn't respond or if he balks at this, you can expect a subpoena and a deposition to follow. So we will see if Jack Smith, who is going and making interviews now, trying to cover up a little bit, if he really believes in the transparency that he's saying he believed in.
SPEAKER 07 :
Jack Smith may not be responding, but he's really happy to do the press, really happy to do a whole tour, if you will. We got a lot of that sound. You'll hear from the man himself, from Hackenjack himself. It's catching on. It is catching on. It's catching on.
SPEAKER 01 :
It's sweeping the nation.
SPEAKER 07 :
It is, really. I mean, so I want to hear from you. What do you think? There are calls. Hey, is this another one of those moments where he was even reading the article saying this is a weaponization, this is going against his political opponents, President Trump once again, whether that was this or Letitia James, whoever it may be. What do you think about that, or is it just fair game? 1-800-684-3110. Again, you're going to hear from Jack Smith himself coming up. He's not a guest on the show. No, unfortunately. I wish he would be. He's more than welcome to call in. Phone lines are open at 1-800-684-3110. If you know him, send him a text. He probably already knows that, though. He has your records. Welcome back to Secula. We are taking your phone calls at 1-800-684-3110. So if you're watching on YouTube or any of our other streaming options, whether it's the Salem News Channel, on Rumble, however it may be, if you're watching us live, and of course it's live, it's 12 to 1 p.m. Eastern time, that means we're live right now. We'd love for you to call in at 1-800-684-3110. If you're catching us later on, you can always catch us live broadcasting, again, on free services like YouTube, Rumble. ACLJ.org, the ACLJ app, Salem News Channel. We fight to make sure that our show and all of the media we provide is available without a paywall. We do that because people support us financially. Of course, that's at ACLJ.org. You can make a tax-deductible donation of any kind and know that it really goes to help support. It's the only way that this show remains on the air. It's the only way that we're able to have our incredible legal work. We'll talk about that a little bit later as well. We'll also talk about some updates coming from Israel as, of course, we had the hostages were released. It was a big deal. Now they're trying to get the remains of those who had passed away, who had been murdered in captivity. And there has been a lot of issues with that, as well as the disarming of Hamas. We're going to break that down coming up in the next segment. But we are going to continue to still talk about Jack Smith. And as Will said, Jack Smith. Not willing to respond to a lot of these efforts to get him to testify. However, he is willing to do a press tour. Willing to show up, do some interviews, talk to the press. And let's hear from the man himself who really is a how dare you moment from Jack Smith to say there's any impropriety going on. Let's hear bite one.
SPEAKER 05 :
The people on my special counsel team were like that. The idea that politics played a role in who worked on that case or who got chosen is ludicrous. And, Andrew, you know, and this is another thing that I think if you're not inside the U.S. Department of Justice, the idea that politics would play a role in big cases like this, it's absolutely ludicrous and it's totally contrary to my experience as a prosecutor.
SPEAKER 09 :
So, Logan, this is unfolding in London, you know, very American place to be. But the interview is between Andrew Weissman and Jack Smith.
SPEAKER 07 :
That name rings a bell.
SPEAKER 09 :
That name because Andrew Weissman was one of the top deputies to Bob Mueller under his special counsel investigation of President Trump. So the hilarity of this.
SPEAKER 07 :
So it's like me interviewing you. and acting like it's unbiased interviews.
SPEAKER 09 :
Exactly. Like the hilarity of the first failed special counsel, which was a fraud on the American people because of the money it spent, the beginnings of it, how it was manufactured by the intelligence agencies to bring forward this Russia collusion hoax on the American people. One of the key members of that special counsel team is interviewing Jack Smith at the University College of London. Like this just... It reeks of Cold War-ish.
SPEAKER 07 :
You see the imagery, too. I mean, look, as someone who has spent a little bit of time in academia, I have to say, they don't give you the best classrooms often. And you know what? You don't have the best lighting. But it looks like he's being interviewed in a... Minimum security prison.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, Jack Smith did spend a long time at the Hague as a prosecutor, so maybe they just made him feel comfortable in the surroundings at London.
SPEAKER 07 :
How cold can we make this? I don't know. One bottle of water and two small end tables and that is all you're provided. here at the university of london interview aesthetic right there we got a lot of calls coming in right now which is good three lines still open though 1-800-684-3110 let's go to michael who is watching on youtube again there's over a thousand of you watching just right now live the hundreds of thousands of you watch later on but live so if you're watching right now on youtube you can give us a call but also what i hope we lost a caller We lost him. How dare you? He hung up. He got nervous. You could do your Greta Thunberg. How dare you? Yeah, that's good. Give us a call back, man. You had a good comment. 1-800-684-3110. Because what he said was that idea that no one was above the law that they have been preaching for the four years leading up to the second Trump presidency. You know, the chickens have come to roost.
SPEAKER 09 :
That's right. And when you look at also other parts of it, he talks about transparency. That's how you avoid these political trials in our system. Well, here's the problem. This is from the final page, page four of the letter from Jim Jordan and the Judiciary Committee to Jack Smith. It says, Now, we also know... Where you at, Jack? ...that they have interviewed multiple members of his team, including Jay Bratt, J.P. Cooney, and Thomas Windham. And specifically, these individuals also didn't want to be transparent. They didn't want to come forward with, okay, here's what we got. They were invoking things, according to Jim Jordan, a broad... and vague, unreasonable interpretation of grand jury secrecy protection, as well as invoking privileges, objections, including the Fifth Amendment, to refuse approximately 70 questions. And what were some of those questions? I'll read them for you because Jim Jordan puts that out.
SPEAKER 07 :
Because all the calls went down, so you got 70 questions.
SPEAKER 09 :
I won't do 70. I think we should do at least 64. How many other members of Congress were investigated as a part of the Arctic Frost investigation and Jack Smith investigation?
SPEAKER 07 :
Back up again. So people that don't know the term Arctic frost, I think we got to go. We got to like lay this out because these are terms that are hilarious to the normal listener. It's the crossfire hurricane. It's an Arctic frost. What is that?
SPEAKER 09 :
So Arctic frost specifically was the investigation that led to the special counsel in the January 6th investigation against President Trump. Not the DOJs going after individuals that were there at the Capitol that day, but specifically when they were trying to bring these obstruction charges against President Trump. And he said things like how many other. And we know that is the investigation where the eight senators and one member of Congress, they got their phone records. Jack Smith did. How many other members of Congress were investigated as a part of the Arctic Frost investigation and Jack Smith investigation? I respectfully declined to respond for the reasons stated by my counsel, namely the Fifth Amendment.
SPEAKER 07 :
That's the one where Lindsey Graham went kind of crazy. That's right. And he said, I mean, not that that doesn't happen every so often, but Lindsey Graham was like, how dare you? Another how dare you?
SPEAKER 09 :
Were there any other records of members of Congress that were swept up by the legal process in your investigation? I respectfully declined to respond for reasons stated by my counsel. In the special counsel's report, it talks about evidence from congressional staff. Were those congressional staff connected only to Congressman Perry? I respectfully declined to respond for the reasons stated by my counsel. So no transparency here. The Congress and the Judiciary Committee have that official oversight role. That is part of the separation of powers and the oversight given to Congress. When you have members of a special counsel team that don't want to answer, these seem very basic questions when they're looking at the investigation. They're just asking if there were any other records swept up in the legal process. Not saying, did a grand jury compel this? The entire situation, and then you take the Fifth Amendment, your right to non-self-incrimination. Now, in a criminal trial, you can't take that as an inference of wrongdoing. In a civil case, you could. You could be used against you. However, the... These also aren't them giving the Fifth Amendment in front of C-SPAN cameras where there are members of the party on both sides that are trying to make a show of it and preach at the witness. This is a transcribed interview. This isn't even a subpoena at this point. So they are given a lot of leverage, but it's... obstructing not in a criminal sense but hand hindering the oversight of this committee of trying to get to the bottom of what happened because it was on full display for the entire american people how poorly run and how political this special counsel investigation
SPEAKER 07 :
But again, how dare you say that? And of course, Jack Smith, he's not willing to make a statement to Jim Jordan, not willing to do this right now, but he is willing still to be interviewed to talk about these things. So he's honestly doing an interview by proxy. So we're almost responding to some of the claims from Jim Jordan, the claims from Jim Jordan, the claims from a lot of these committee members without actually having to do it. Of course, this is a clip from him again from that same interview talking about what he considers the integrity of, of his office and why a lot of the staff are starting to resign. Let's take a listen. You tell me what you think. Here's Jack Smith.
SPEAKER 05 :
You can't say, I want this outcome. Let me throw the rules out. That's why, frankly, you see all of these conflicts between the career apolitical prosecutors I worked with, because they're being asked to do things that they think are wrong. And because they're not political people, they're not going to do them. And I think that explains why you've seen the resignations. You've seen people leave the department. It's not because they're enemies of one administration or the next. They've worked through decades for different administrations. It's just they've been doing things apolitically forever. And when they're told, no, you've got to get this outcome no matter what, that is so contrary to how we were all raised as prosecutors.
SPEAKER 09 :
It's almost laughable hearing that, him trying to give commentary on the Trump administration. When his entire appointment, they held that. They didn't start this raid on Mar-a-Lago right after the president left office. They went in a very strategic time, headed towards the primaries. Jack Smith... was was appointed towards the end of Joe Biden's term leading up to the primaries in a second term for Joe Biden because he said he was running again. It's laughable to hear him say that these aren't political people. They're apolitical career prosecutors is laughable when you saw what the Department of Justice was doing under Joe Biden and Barack Obama before him.
SPEAKER 07 :
We got phone lines open for you. I know a lot of you called in and we had technical difficulties. So phone lines are back open. We got a couple on hold, but a couple open as well. 1-800-684-3110. 1-800-684-3110. We're going to pivot a little bit here in the next segment away from Jack Smith and also talk about President Trump's warning to Hamas, disarm or pay the price. What does that look like? As now the hostages are free. And now, maybe business can get taken care of. Let's chat about that coming up in the next segment. We'll be right back. Welcome back to Secula. We do have some calls coming in about this topic, so maybe we'll take a couple of those before we move on to our discussion on Hamas, where things stand in the war there as the ceasefire continues, but has not been without some struggle now that the hostages are free. But there are some calls coming in about Jack Smith, so let's take some. Let's go to Mike in North Carolina on line two. Mike, you're on the air.
SPEAKER 02 :
yes i made the comment about uh i paid particular attention to leading up to the election the end of 2023 and and a lot in 2024 and i'm just wondering where leticia james jack smith alvin bragg nancy pelosi and adam schiff they were just on the tv two or three times a week I thought they were all for transparency. You know, every American needs to be very scared, and if a political party can do that to one man, what could they do to someone that didn't have the fortune to those things.
SPEAKER 07 :
Mike, I think that has been the common thread through a lot of this, which is if they could do it to the President of the United States, what could they do to you? And I would argue they did.
SPEAKER 09 :
When you see what they did to pro-life advocates, people that went and just were trying to advocate for the unborn and for those that were going into clinics or even just against the clinics themselves, using their First Amendment right, They were bringing the Department of Justice against them. They were having FBI raids on a father and his family to arrest him because he defended his son when he was attacked by a counter-protester. they didn't bring assault charges against the man that attacked his young son they brought a charge against the father and they took it all the way to trial they didn't get to the point after they raided his house even though the man i'm sure would have surrendered innocently and peacefully to the doj had they said we're gonna bring these charges they raided his home guns drawn for defending his son, and they took it all the way to trial, the Biden DOJ did, and lost because of that. So it isn't just if they would do it to the president, they would do it to you. They were doing it to the American people that held contrary views to them. They weaponized the Department of Justice. They sent spies into the Catholic churches and then they said it was just one. It was just Richmond and it was a memo. We didn't really get that far with it. oops we were wrong it was actually a bunch of field offices but it didn't get that far don't worry oops actually we were trying to make it a national policy for the entire FBI to be spying on churches so don't let them tell you when Jack Smith makes these comments about apolitical career prosecutors that are just the finest people in America we saw what the Department of Justice was doing under Merrick Garland's leadership and Joe Biden's presidency it wasn't good it wasn't american it was against the very foundation of what we believe in this country and so don't believe them when they go to london in a nice dystopian room with another former uh special prosecutor's team special counsel's team member andrew weissman and have this conversation i'm sure they had espresso later maybe high tea like a dystopian room i like the vibe but i don't like the people in that vibe yeah Yeah.
SPEAKER 07 :
All right.
SPEAKER 09 :
I like the idea of dystopian more than I like dystopian.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, you like the high-end dystopia. Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER 09 :
For sure.
SPEAKER 07 :
Like just clean walls. Exactly. There's nothing on the walls. All right. We are going to switch our topics a little bit here because there has been some movement, some changes in what's going on in the war between Israel and Hamas. Obviously, the big news this week, hostages are free. So that's great. So really, the biggest chip, if you will, has been cashed in. This has been great. I told you we should be if this was all that happened, even if the war continued, but the hostages were free, that should be enough. That would be enough to be satisfied with President Trump's plan. And then it worked because that is human life and human life was saved. Now, there are a lot of bodies. There are a lot of bodies of the murdered by Hamas who have not been returned yet. Hamas says they're looking for them. They're trying to locate them. We do know that of the bodies that were returned, at least one of them was a Gazan, was not an Israeli hostage.
SPEAKER 09 :
And that was a three extra that they were able to deliver today. One of those was not even an Israeli hostage.
SPEAKER 07 :
It was not Israeli hostage. So, you know, they are either playing a game here, which they've done many times, Maybe some of these remains do not exist in the way that they said they did. President Trump has some pretty strong words. So I want you to hear from him before we continue this discussion. So this is from President Trump. This is from yesterday during press conference. Take a listen.
SPEAKER 12 :
We have told them we want to disarm and they will disarm. And if they don't disarm, we will disarm them. And it'll happen quickly and perhaps violently. But they will disarm. Do you understand me? Because you always, everyone says, oh, well, they won't disarm. They will disarm. And I spoke to Hamas. And I said, you're going to disarm, right? Yes, sir, we're going to disarm. That's what they told me. They will disarm or we will disarm them. Got it? Okay.
SPEAKER 10 :
What is the deadline you're going to put on them?
SPEAKER 07 :
You said quickly, sir. You said quickly, but what is the deadline you're going to put on them before you take action?
SPEAKER 12 :
A reasonable period of time. Pretty quickly. A reasonable period of time.
SPEAKER 07 :
A reasonable period of time saying if they don't disarm, we are going to disarm them. and possibly violently, perhaps violently. That's not a misquote. That is exactly what President Trump said. That is a pretty stark comment. What that means, I think, is up for interpretation, whether that's the U.S. getting involved, whether that is Israel just saying, you know what, go do what you have to do now. The hostages are free. That's what we wanted. We got the hostages free. Go do what you can do to now end this conflict for good. We were afraid that that could be where things headed. We are hopeful that this is still the end of the war and it is where we're at. Thankfully, right now, there are still good movements happening. However, what disarmament even looks like is kind of a big question.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, and here's what's interesting as well about that. One, when we talked about, okay, will Hamas get to that next step? And I think we're always still thinking of it as a prior president doing this. President Trump is so committed to this. He's not the Obama, oh, you said you're going to do it. Now do it. Don't cross this red line or else. And then they crossed the red line in Syria and there was nowhere else. President Trump so firmly believes in this deal and has gotten it much further than really anyone thought that he could. that I think that he is committed to seeing it through. But we're also seeing Hamas killing innocent Palestinian civilians in Gaza. just willy-nilly and bringing them out in the street and shooting them. But where are your celebrities now? Right. So this is from CENTCOM, the Admiral Brad Cooper, the commander of Central Command of the United States military. We strongly urge Hamas to immediately suspend violence and shooting at innocent Palestinian civilians in Gaza, in both Hamas-held parts of Gaza and those secured by the IDF behind the yellow line. This is an historic opportunity for peace. Hamas should seize it by fully standing down, strictly adhering to President Trump's 20-point peace plan, and disarming without delay. And it goes on. But the U.S. government means business here. And they're saying, we are going to get this peace plan in place. We are going to continue with the 20 points. So Hamas, you're on notice. And we're noticing that now you're killing innocent Palestinians. What's up with that? I thought that it was just the bad genocidal Israel doing that.
SPEAKER 07 :
And of course they've been doing that forever. Right. We know this. Whether that's for Christians, whether that's for other people in the region, just someone they may find difficult. Life is not the same there. Hey, we've got a second half hour coming up. If you don't get us on your local station, find us broadcasting live right now on ACLJ.org, YouTube, Rumble, however you get your podcasts later on. You can find us archived. We've got a second half hour coming up. Starts in less than a minute. Rick Grinnell's going to be joining us, and we're going to take as many calls as we can. Lines are open for you at 1-800-684-3110. Go to ACLJ.org. Support the show. keeping you informed and engaged now more than ever this is seculo and now your host logan secular welcome to the second half hour of secular for your day phone lines are open at 1-800-684-3110 talking about a few topics that's right jack smith's being called in but we're calling him hacking jack now It's your favorite. It's catching on.
SPEAKER 01 :
It is.
SPEAKER 07 :
Sweeping the nation. Yep. Hackin' Jack, you may know him. He's being called by Jim Jordan to come and testify, but of course isn't responding. He's responding through the press, responding through academia, through interviews being conducted by some friendly people in London. Yep. We also are going to continue on our discussion about the disarmament of Hamas. What does that look like moving forward? And Rick Grinnell is going to be joining us in the next segment to talk about some California rules. You may have heard about the redistricting efforts that are happening. And of course, there is another glaring issue that comes from mail-in voting you are not going to want to miss. Of course, you know, they're almost laughable except for the fraud is so out in the open. that it becomes comical at some points. As I said, phone lines are open for you at 1-800-684-3110. If you want to talk about that or any topic, we have a call coming in right now even about the New York mayoral election, which I know is taking up a lot of your feed right now wherever you are in the United States. It seems like the mayor of New York, which obviously is a very important person, who becomes the mayor of New York, as it is the, you say, the capital of the world, if you will. Will just rolled his eyes at me. Maybe formerly. Formerly the capital. I mean, I love New York. Spent a lot of time there. And I would love to see it kind of get back to where it once was. Currently, we know it's in rougher shape. And I don't know if where the election is headed is going to help anybody out. Let's go ahead and take a call on that. It's going to Mary in Texas. Mary, you're on the air.
SPEAKER 10 :
Hi. Yes, love your show. I just have a question about your opinion. Why was communism, why was this country against communism back in the early 60s? We fought against communism. I remember Hollywood stars being brought in front of committees, being accused of being communists. I remember Lucille Ball, because she was married to Desi Arnaz, was being accused of being a communist. I remember seeing that on the black and white TV when I was little. And they used to call it witch hunts. And a lot of careers were ruined over that in Hollywood. Why the change? Why is it so popular now?
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, Mary, I will say, I don't know if those were great either. I think those trials were a lot of times where people that were targeted specifically, some of them were for their beliefs and their communist leanings. Some were also due to race issues, a lot of other things that were happening in Hollywood at the time. However, let's put that aside. Why has it become popular right now? It's become popular. I think you can really start looking to academia. You can start looking to the people who are educating your children, specifically in universities, of why this. Now, if you ask, of course, you're talking about New York. That was one of the questions you said. It seems like New York is going to give that another go. Of course, you're talking about Mondami, who is a Democrat socialist, who is very quick, Will, to always, whenever they start labeling him communist, he's like, wait, wait, wait. I'm a Democrat socialist. And then they pushed him. Even on The View, they pushed him. And they go, well, what does that mean? And he gave some ridiculous answer that was just like, it just means things should be fair. Joy Behar was like, well, that's not exactly what it means. So you got to give it up to them, at least even a little bit, pushing back on some of his nice guy rhetoric that seems nice. But of course, people vote specifically in these areas that are young people driven. They vote also for personality. And right now he is the flavor of the week.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, I mean, it depends on how deep down the rabbit hole you want to go, whether it be academia, whether it be, you know, TikTok, being a Chinese company, being able to serve information to youth of this country. But I think also we are so far removed from seeing the horrific nature of what communism did to these countries and to these people that people forget. And in America, we have it pretty good. Even with all our problems, we're very comfortable. And so it's easy to see something nice and shiny with a good personality that says you get free stuff.
SPEAKER 07 :
Everyone should have, everyone should have the same thing. See, it sounds nice. Sounds fair. Sounds generous. Of course, we know what that all actually looks like when it comes down to it. Go talk to anybody in any of these countries that are still suffering from it. We get back. Rick Ronell's going to be joining us. We're talking a little bit more about another election that's happening. One that's happening in the state of California, voting for redistricting, what that's looking like. And some, uh, Moments that may be a little fraud-based. We'll see. We'll talk to you about that in just a moment. Welcome back to Seculo. Phone lines are open for you at 1-800-684-3110. Rick Riddell's joining us right now. Rick, and maybe, Will, you could give us a little bit of a setup here, because I want Rick's thoughts on this. I know this has been a topic. If you were just watching during the break, you got to see what the local news said. Holy ballots, Batman! Which, you know, that's straight out of Sacramento local news. I love it. Will, what's going on in California?
SPEAKER 09 :
That's right, Rick. As we look ahead to this special election or special voting referendum that the governor, Gavin Newsom, decided to put on the ballot where they would change the independent committee, which I know you have thoughts on that as well, but to a special redistricting just to try and combat Texas and other states that were redistricting, going outside the law of California to create something new and put it to a vote. We're just a few weeks away from that, but already it seems like there's always something a little sketchy going on with the ballots in California. This time we're seeing in certain places that if you vote no on the redistricting with your mail-in ballot, you can see that through a hole in the front of the envelope. What's your take on this, Rick, and what's going on in your beautiful home state?
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, raise your hand if you're surprised that it's only if you vote no, if you vote against Obama, if you vote against Gavin Newsom, that somehow transparency reigns. I mean, it's laughable. We have a state that is totally a one party ruled state. They rule with an iron fist. And what they're doing now is collecting tens of millions, maybe hundreds of millions of dollars to do a new election, which literally reads, uh, because of Texas, when you read the question of voting yes or no in California, it literally, it literally says we're doing this in response to Texas's partisanship. This is where we are. It's like California is responding to Texas, but really it's all because Gavin Newsom wants to run for president. So the counties are having to put forward a new special election, which it takes place here in a couple of weeks, asking the question, do you want to... start over and redo our congressional seat because Texas is being so partisan. So we're going to be partisan. That's literally the question. I hope everyone who's, who's listening to me understands that we can defeat this. You got to vote. No, get out and vote. No, take everyone, you know, and vote. No, we need to send us a strong message to Gavin Newsom right now that he doesn't get to play partisan politics just because he's losing. Well, we had a census yesterday. They created the congressional districts, and the next census is not until 2030. We don't need to waste this money just because they're losing. Thor losers.
SPEAKER 09 :
What's so interesting to me, Rick, is that Gavin Newsom seemed so confident in this. He decided to go outside the regular norms. California does have an alleged independent redistricting process. I put alleged there because it's not like it's perfect, but this is completely different. This is taking it outside of the system that is by law in California and putting it to a vote to have this little intermittent change. his own benefit. But now you're seeing of all that confidence, spending all that money, getting this together so quickly that he's having to bring people in like Barack Obama to try and sell this here at the last minute. That doesn't seem like high confidence of getting the people of California on your side on this. If you're having to go for the, probably the only Democrat party superstar left to try and sell this to your people.
SPEAKER 11 :
Look, there's no question that they're worried. The big overall question is whether or not they're overly worried, but they're clearly worried. And here's why. We have spent the last five years getting people who are on the sidelines to register to vote. Remember, 50% of your neighbors are not even registered to vote. Of everyone who is registered, only 40% roughly are voting. And so it's a very small crowd that the Democrats in California keep going to to win these elections. They are panicked that we're adding new people to the voter rolls while at the same time going county by county and demanding that they clean up their voter rolls. We have something on the next year's ballot, hopefully, we're gathering signatures now, that would put voter ID on the ballot in California. That is a total game changer for California. It immediately cleans up the votes. of all the non-citizens in California, of which there are a lot voting. And so right now, Gavin is panicking because when you look at his reputation with the fires and the frustration that people have in California, combined with all of the stuff that we've done with voter registration and voter rolls, he's thinking that a special election could mean that he loses for the first time in California. And so they brought out the big guns last night during the Dodgers game, or as Will would say, the Brewers-Dodgers game. But I was sitting there watching the Dodgers game and watching Obama come on and Gavin Newsom come on so many times. And we have a law in California that you have to announce who's paying, the top three people paying for the ads. The California Teachers Association... have been paying for all of these partisan ads. If you're a teacher or you know a teacher in California, you should be outraged that the teacher's money is going to redo the census just in California just for congressional races. It's an outrage. It's a waste of money.
SPEAKER 07 :
Rick, I hate to give more fuel to this and show people what Barack Obama had to say. He said they brought out the heavy hitters to really try to make this moment mean something, but it's so partisan, if you will, in the way that it's presented. It's not even... trying to win people over on either side, saying, you know, this is what's good for the state, here's why. It is so specifically targeted to or against Republicans. I think our audience does need to at least hear a few seconds of it. So here is a clip from Barack Obama talking about this.
SPEAKER 06 :
In California, the whole nation is counting on you. Democracy is on ballot November 4th. Republicans want to steal enough seats in Congress to rig the next election and wield unchecked power for two more years. With Prop 50, you can stop Republicans in their tracks. Prop 50 puts our elections back on a level playing field. reserves independent redistricting over the long term.
SPEAKER 07 :
Those quotes there, Rick. Republicans want to steal enough seats in Congress to rig the next election. You can do this. You can stop the Republicans. This is the rhetoric that is coming out of the government there in California and, of course, from the former president of the United States, Barack Obama.
SPEAKER 11 :
Look, I don't think they poll tested this very well, because I can tell you the whole phrase democracy is on the ballot is what Kamala said. And that's a losing issue because they saw what they did to Republicans. We saw what the Biden team did when they were in charge of the Justice Department. And so what what this commercial is, what you rightly pointed out. is Barack Obama and Gavin Newsom are only playing to the high propensity Democratic voters, of which there's enough in California. If they can rally their base to come out and Republicans stay home, they could win this. But we're doing a pretty good job in California right now of telling Republicans, it's one question on the ballot. It's so easy. And we mail ballots to every single person on the voter roll. So find your ballot in the mail. Send it in. Vote no, no, no, no. Try to vote no as many times.
SPEAKER 09 :
Rick, I want to point out one thing other than the fact that this video that Barack Obama put out saying that Congress wants to rig the next election and steal seats would have gotten the Biden DOJ to force social media to get him kicked off and deplatformed, just using that language. But he says... It preserves independent redistricting over the long term, which is such a bait and switch saying you have to break the system now so that we can preserve it later. I just wanted, we have about 30 seconds, your quick thoughts on that little bait and switch rhetoric.
SPEAKER 11 :
He literally, because he's losing his thing, you have to trust me to break the system now and go literally off the census schedule in order to get these Republicans in Texas. That's what he's saying. It's outrageous. It's manipulation. Vote no on Prop 50 in California. Find your ballot. Vote no.
SPEAKER 07 :
All right. Thank you, Rick, so much for joining us today. Hey, in the next segment, I want to hear from you. You've heard about California. You've heard about New York. You've heard what's going on overseas in Israel and Gaza right now. You've heard about Jack Smith. There's so many topics we have covered today. Surely you have some thoughts on some of them. I'm talking to you, our listener and our viewer, and phone lines are completely open right now. We took some calls early on in the show, so that means right now you can call in and likely make it in the air in the next segment. Because I want to hear from you, I always say. Our callers are the most important voice in the room, and I really do believe that. 1-800-684-3110. With that also, though, I want you to go to ACLJ.org. There's been some time on there. We make sure all of our content is available without a paywall, and that only happens... Because people like you support this show and support our legal work at ACLJ.org. All donations go and are distributed throughout our legal team, our media team, everything we're doing around the world. And none of it's paid for by major sponsors. Most of it's not paid for by major donors. It's the bread and butter. The backbone of this organization is you. The person that can give $25, can give $50, can give maybe $100. So many of you do that each and every day that it's able to keep this show and keep our legal work top notch because of you. Let's go to ACLJ.org. Do it today. We're going to take your phone calls when we get back. All right, I asked for you to call, and so you did. We've got lots of calls coming in. Take a minute if you're on hold right now. We'll do our best to screen it and get you up. Let's go ahead and kick it off with Ronald, South Carolina, watching on Rumble. Ronald, go ahead.
SPEAKER 01 :
Yes, thanks for taking my call. What I'm seeing here in this whole landscape that you have literally brought up is that the Democrats knew that they had goofed. in the last administration, and they're trying very hard to gain the supporters back that would gain them, you know, the control of the government. So they are doing everything they can from like California to this place, to that place, and everything else to try and take a foothold and win a major election to give them control of the government once again.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, and Ronald, what you see also is that they haven't been able to coalesce around even a single ideology as a Democrat party. It's not so much a big tent party where they have a bunch of ideas coming together. They just seem so all over the place and unable to get it together. And they can't fundraise. They can't do anything. So people like Gavin Newsom are trying to lead the charge. They're trying to find ways to rally the the Democrat base, whether it be this absurd move that he's doing in California, whether it be the way that they're trying to do national media. Yes, they are trying to fix what they broke in their party in the last election. They had so much hubris, they thought there was no way that they could lose to Donald Trump again. So much hubris that Joe Biden thought he should run again. And everyone knew that that was not the case. And then now you see the Kamala Harris book tour. Clearly, she's planning on running again for president. She thinks if she just had more time, it's everyone else's fault except her own being a terrible candidate, not knowing how to do interviews, not knowing how to get a message out there. So, yeah, they're scrambling. But it doesn't mean that there isn't opportunities for them to make gains in a midterm because midterms are local elections. People, when they're polled, may not like Congress, but typically they like their representative. So you see things like that, that it doesn't mean that people on the right, conservatives or Republicans, should get complacent either when they see what a circus is going on on the left, Because it still is a very bipartisan country, not in the working across the aisle, but in a polarization way. So I think that's also something that there shouldn't be complacency on the right either if you want to continue the work that you're seeing going on now.
SPEAKER 07 :
Hey, phone lines, a couple are still open at 1-800-684-3110. A couple people didn't make it through the screening process. Not sure what happened there. Hopefully they didn't say anything bad to our phone screen. They probably did. They probably did. 1-800-684-3110. Let's go to John. I actually have a response to this. John in Maryland on line one. John, go ahead.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, I'm just calling because I was just curious if you had any thoughts on why in the mayoral race in New York, why the only Republican and his name slips my mind. But, you know, he was a guardian angel. He started the guardian angels up there. And now he's running for the mayor position. And why Donald Trump, our president, great president, hasn't thrown his support behind him.
SPEAKER 07 :
I don't want to put words into president Trump's mouth. Uh, obviously he has, this guy's run so many times, has had so many chances, uh, to become, uh, some sort of elected official that it's become a bit of, I don't want to say it's a joke. Cause I feel bad saying that. Cause I think the guardian angels, some of the things they've done great work. Um, But it isn't necessarily going to move the needle. You've actually seen maybe more likelihood that President Trump would push voting for Cuomo over voting for the Republican on the ticket. I don't think he probably is going to weigh in either way necessarily in that. But I think a lot of it's that. It's who actually has a pathway to victory. and who has a pathway to victory that could at least, look, I think a lot of you go, I couldn't believe that Cuomo is who you're telling people to vote for, but you're talking about someone who at least is going to be on the side of New York, going to be on the side of the Jewish people in New York, some of those kind of things. There's major concerns, obviously, with Mondami's uh talk and the way he talks about israel the way he talks even about the jewish community he's backed off a lot of that as he's had to moderate but we know his history it's not like i'm i'm being slanderous here it's it's black and white he's he's talked about it openly uh however i mean it it's looking like a pretty big landslide victory for him we'll see
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, and also I would say to John, Curtis Sliwa and Donald Trump don't seem to like each other. Sliwa left the Republican Party after saying very nasty things about President Trump during his first term and then re-registered as a Republican after President Trump left office. So there's, I assume maybe there's some roots that go together. deeper because of new york maybe there uh who knows because they're both new york guys but uh they they don't have a good relationship nor also curtis sliwa like you said logan has run for mayor a lot of times he's tried this and he's just not the the nostalgia of the guardian angels i don't think does anything for a campaign there anymore as well as just maybe isn't the best candidate running for the party. But also, I think when you look at Mondami, I mean, he even said today, Logan, you're saying he's trying to moderate. He's still saying that he'll have Netanyahu arrested if he comes to New York as early as today. His party, the Democrat Socialists of America, was criticizing the deal because it didn't give back all the stolen land that Israel stole from the Palestinians, meaning the entire river to the sea mantra. So he can moderate on paper as much as he wants. He can also moderate because there's a lot of things he can't do without the state of New York actually doing it.
SPEAKER 07 :
George, the mayor.
SPEAKER 09 :
So he can claim I've moderated. He just has no power. But don't believe for a minute that he's actually moderated himself.
SPEAKER 07 :
All right, last call of the day. Let's go to Bill in Wyoming. Well, if Leslie gets screened, maybe we can take her, too. We'll see. Or him. Bill in Wyoming, you're on the air.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, I just want to say that the Bible says there's nothing new under the sun. We have seen in the last couple of years history repeat itself in the fact that we've seen Sir Winston Churchill... being reborn in the fact that Prime Minister Netanyahu stood strong against opposition and pushback when he was going against Gaza and Hamas.
SPEAKER 07 :
Bill, I think you can draw some of those conclusions and we'll see how history treats Prime Minister Netanyahu. And I think it'll probably depend on who you're hearing it from. His history is not as defined maybe as it once was.
SPEAKER 09 :
And I think also to Bill's point, I mean, he said anti-Semitism being reborn, one, it never went away. But what you're seeing, even with the infighting within the Republican Party, and you're seeing Politico putting out this report where they got 2,900 pages of text messages from college age and young Republicans that were uh back and forth with very anti-semitic things um some they may defend themselves in some ways saying some of it were jokes and not in serious it's a private communications but if they're looking to be the leaders of the party the jokes that were anti-semitic i mean there's no room for that that that's especially when you have people like tucker carlson and and candace owens that are putting out so much anti-semitism to the the traditional republican base in ways like tucker was at the white house yesterday Right. It's disgusting to see that, and I think that it needs to be called out on the right as well as the left. We can't just say, look how bad the left is and anti-Semitic. If there are people that are fomenting racism within your own house, your conservative house, you got to call that out too.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yep. Thanks for calling, Bill. Thanks for everyone who called in today. We actually took a lot of calls, and I appreciate everyone who did that. Thanks for your support. Thanks for listening to this show, watching this show, interacting with us each and every day. Again, we can't do it without you, and I'm going to encourage you right now to make a donation of any kind. It could be $5. It could be $500. You can just do it right now at ACLJ.org. Know that helps keep us on the air. If you hear ads in your local market... That doesn't go to us. That goes to the station or the network. If you see ads on YouTube, know that is a very, very small amount of money that goes to the organization, not enough to pay maybe one or two of our staff members at most. And we've got a big crew, and I want to always have the best of the best, and of course our incredible legal team. So right now, go to ACLJ.org, make a donation. If you can, talk to you tomorrow.
In this week's episode of the National Crawford Roundtable, our hosts dive deep into the historic Middle East peace agreement brokered by Donald Trump between Israel and Hamas. This monumental agreement marks the eighth successful negotiation of Trump's career, highlighting his ability to bring conflicting parties to the table. Join us as we explore the details of this agreement, its global implications, and the significant milestone of hostages being released. In addition, the episode examines the reaction from world leaders and the skepticism surrounding the effectiveness of such peace treaties.
SPEAKER 01 :
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SPEAKER 04 :
Back with another week of the National Crawford Roundtable podcast with all of the guys. John Rush, Rush to Reason out of Denver, Colorado. Neil Boron, Neil Boron live out of Buffalo, New York. Myself, Bob Duco, the Bob Duco Show out of Detroit. Hey, none of us get to talk about anybody behind their back. We're all here. So how are you doing, guys? That's right.
SPEAKER 05 :
It's not going to be as much fun this week, for sure. I know.
SPEAKER 04 :
Tell me about it. Well, you do what you got to do, I guess. We are talking this week, of course, about the Middle East peace deal and how huge this is. And, of course, this is, we got to remember, this is actually the 8th ceasefire slash peace agreement that Donald Trump has already successfully negotiated. But there's no doubt this is a huge one. After two years, more than two years now since October 7th and that massacre, we now have peace, at least right now, between Israel and Hamas. We have 20 living hostages that have been returned. And there's a lot of different aspects of this whole peace agreement thing to discuss. But I kind of want to go around the table and get you guys' general take, first of all, about just in an overall sense how significant this is because, first of all— I mean, a Middle East peace agreement, the idea that we actually have Israel and Hamas both signing an agreement together. Neil, I'll start with you. Think about just the imagery of this, that here's Donald Trump sitting at a big table with Hamas on one side, Israel on the other, and they're all signing together a peace agreement. And part of this peace agreement is Hamas agreeing to, in essence, lay down their arms, stop the fighting, to release the hostages, and to give up power. Now, will that stick? Will they actually do that? That's to be worked out. But at least, I mean, they signed their name, Neil, to a peace agreement. And right now, hostilities are not happening. The hostages are, in fact, released. To me, this is extremely historic.
SPEAKER 05 :
Oh, it's incredibly historic. And honestly, the mere fact that the hostages have been released is cause for celebration, like period, end of sentence. Anything else that beyond that would be wonderful. I tend to be more skeptical when it comes to groups like Hamas, particularly because of their stated goals, but absolutely, totally historic. And you got to believe the entire world was watching. And I got to believe that some world leaders are scratching their heads saying, how does Donald Trump get in the middle of all this stuff? But anyway, it happened and it's historic and the world's going to talk about it for a really long time.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right. John, what's first your 35,000 foot view takeaway from this? What are some of the overall thoughts that you have just about this deal happening before we start peeling back?
SPEAKER 02 :
No, I think it's, I mean, for those that say it's, you know, not a good deal and will Hamas abide by this and so on and so forth, you know, well, time will tell. And for all of those that for some odd reason, and maybe we should talk about this, that think that the Jews are the bad guys and Hamas is the good guys. Since the ceasefire has happened, the Jews in Israel aren't running around rounding up people and executing them out in front of others like Hamas has been doing ever since the peace deal has been initiated. Peace, basically, in other words, we won't go after Israel, but we're going to go after our own defectors. Those are defected inside of our own borders here. So those that think that Hamas is some peace-loving organization, Bob, yeah, far from it.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah. Well, and think about the hostages, too, the 20 of them that were released. Those are the 20 that still survived. But you look at the ones that were killed. And I know there's talk right now about the slow release of the dead bodies. And why is that?
SPEAKER 02 :
Right.
SPEAKER 04 :
Personally, John, and I don't want to get conspiratorial here, but I wouldn't be a bit surprised if Hamas doesn't realize there's some dead bodies we can't hand over because when they do an autopsy on them, they're going to see the level of torture that we did on them. Correct. And I don't – I think Hamas is trying to – I can't disagree with that. So that kind of to me is one of the reasons why they're probably holding back some of those bodies. But those were powerful images though, John, weren't they? I mean the hugging and the reunion and stuff.
SPEAKER 02 :
Absolutely. Absolutely. And again, for those that – I don't want to get off track here, Bob, at all, but it just drives me nuts, these people that think for some odd reason Israel's the bad guy here and Hamas was the good guy. People on our side of the aisle that think that, I just don't understand that.
SPEAKER 04 :
I can't wrap my brain around that either. And actually, Neil, there are a lot of people in America, I hate to say it, it's not just the anti-Semites in the college campuses, but there are some groups, even in some conservative and libertarian circles, their default reaction is to see Israel as the bad guy. And look, Israel's a secular nation. I don't agree with everything that they do. Of course, it's not like Benjamin Netanyahu's perfect.
SPEAKER 02 :
Don't agree with everything we do, Bob.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, I know. But my goodness, when you look at the two, how anybody can have their default sympathies fall to Hamas really is beyond me.
SPEAKER 05 :
I know it sounds like over the top, but I just believe it's demonic deception we're talking about. Demonic level deception. It's not over the top at all. I mean, you look at the two. Countries in question here, the two places in question, you got Israel and Gaza is nothing but a pile of rubble. I mean, people living in those kind of conditions on a continued basis and thinking that Hamas ultimately is good in some way for the Palestinian people. I don't realize, by the way, that there are Christians in Gaza. Uh, there are Palestinian Christians all over the world, but largely, uh, a Muslim group of people, but you know, it's the Hamas factor that you really have to look at here. And somebody saying that they're sympathetic to that kind of way of life in Gaza. When you flip the script and look at Israel, a peaceful nation where people can go and vacation and it's economically prosperous and people aren't killing each other in the streets, suicide bombing is a rarity, but if it happens, it's somebody from, uh, so-called Palestine that got into Israel that carries this out. And I don't know how any thinking person could look at that and think, well, this is right and that's wrong when you compare the two side by side, which is why I call it demonic deception. I don't know what else to refer to it as.
SPEAKER 04 :
It really is. Anybody who can look at them side by side and say, oh, my sympathies lie with Hamas more and not Israel just blows my mind. And we've got to say too, look, I feel bad for Palestinian families that are going back into Gaza now and they're seeing that their homes are rubble. Of course, we feel bad for them, certainly. And we got to remember, there are tons and tons and tons of humanitarian aid that's flowing into Gaza right now. But that's a sad thing. But we also got to remember, for all the people on the left that are arguing Well, you know, you got to separate Hamas from the Palestinian people, okay, because they're not the same thing. I understand that Hamas are a bunch of terrorists, but you know what? Hamas got power in 2007, and it's not because they took power in a coup. They were elected into office by the Palestinian people in Gaza. So the Palestinian people elected them. And after the October 7th massacre, polls were taken not just from Israel, but taken from Palestinians in Gaza asking, do you support the attack from Hamas on Israel, October 7th? And you had on average between 70 to 80 percent of the Palestinian people, the civilians themselves, that said, yeah, we support this. So, you know, I feel bad their homes were reduced to rubble, but in all fairness, they were supporting Hamas while Hamas was using them as human shields. So if anybody's the bad guy here for the rubble, it's Hamas. But there's a lot more to talk about this. But before that, we get to more of this. I want to remind you folks, of course, that this podcast is sponsored. We appreciate you folks supporting our sponsors like Preborn and like SunPower LED, which, Neil, SunPower LED is really amazing technology in the way that they help people naturally with light.
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SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah. And I've had people, you know, you know, again, those that are the Jew haters out there compare what you're talking about to. Well, you know, does that mean that because, you know, Biden was elected that everybody that went along, I mean, they're trying to use comparisons as to, you know, the United States and reality is not even close to being, you know, one in the same. And even though every single person there maybe didn't vote for Hamas at the end of the day, Bob, to your point, They were duly elected. They stayed in power for a long time, as you said. You know, it's been almost an entire, what, two decades? Pretty close to it? Not quite. Just a little shy of two decades.
SPEAKER 1 :
2007.
SPEAKER 02 :
So we're 18 years in. 18 years in. Exactly. So almost two decades. So the reality is, you know... How would those people have fought Hamas once they actually elected them? Again, guys, I don't have the answers to that. All I know is this. While you say, Bob, and I agree with you that I feel sorry for those that maybe weren't on their side fully, that ended up finding themselves trapped for some odd reason, couldn't leave, couldn't get out, whatever the situation is, you feel sorry for them, yes. Although, this is sort of like the abortion argument, Bob, of, rape and incest. This is a small percentage of those that are actually there, that are actually in that camp. The majority are the individuals you're talking about that supported everything Hamas has done.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right, absolutely.
SPEAKER 02 :
And we can't forget that.
SPEAKER 04 :
You think this thing's going to stick, John? Well, I think it will.
SPEAKER 02 :
I think the only way they can start rebuilding the country in any way, shape, or form is to get the fighting with Israel over. And the reality is, and again, as I remind everybody coming into the podcast today, Hamas wants to stay in power. They want to keep rolling along. They're going to keep doing that. That's why they're executing some that were against them, by the way, throughout this last couple of years. I mean, the reality is they're doing that openly right now. They're rounding up people as we speak, executing individuals that came out against them. And so I think what they did is they basically turned their forces from Israel to now internally so they can, quote unquote, clean up those that were against them internally and And, yeah, they're going to plan on rebuilding. I mean, is it going to stick? Yeah, I think it will as far as that goes because what other option do they have? If they don't get out of this deal, there's nothing left to rebuild. I mean, as it is, there is a lot of rebuilding that they've got to do at this point because, as Neil said, it's a pile of rubble.
SPEAKER 04 :
Which, by the way, Neil, talking about the pile of rubble, think like a businessman for a second. I know John certainly can, as our resident businessman, can relate to this. But Donald Trump's vision for what Gaza could be, like a tourist attraction, Dubai kind of place, if you think about it, this really is prime real estate. They're on the banks of the Mediterranean Sea. So this could really be built into something very good and make a lot of money and certainly be safer for the region and the whole bit. So I don't know if that's going to happen, but I've got to imagine that Trump is going to be doing everything he can working with these other Middle Eastern nations to say, let's just not rebuild it by putting up the same brick stuff. Let's actually get some real estate developers in there.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, it's interesting. I read an article in the Wall Street Journal the other day, and I think it was written by Peggy Noonan. Don't quote me on that, but I believe it was. And she's no fan generally of Donald Trump. But she was making the case that Donald Trump has a rare ability to sort of change the narrative and all of a sudden introduce a new idea, almost like, hey, look, a shiny object in the room, and gave him credit for changing the mindset of what was going on. Everything was focused on Gaza and people starving to death and Hamas and the hostages and everything was gloom and doom for two years. And, you know, several months ago, he introduces this idea of turning it into like the Riviera of the Middle East. Right. And and if even if even for a moment it caused people to stop and go, you know, why are they destroying this land and why aren't they using it for some prosperous reason or to the benefit of their own people, et cetera? And It caused people to pause for a minute, which everyone needed. Everybody needed to take a breather for a minute and maybe just dream a little bit. But it's really not a cockamamie idea. I mean, the bottom line is they have a very lucrative piece of property there that they could really do something with. And I think America and Israel in some fashion would help support that concept so that we don't have to have this kind of situation going on indefinitely. Like, where's the end of this whole thing? It just till there's utter destruction. And I don't think anyone wants that long term.
SPEAKER 04 :
John, as a businessman, think about the vision that Trump has here. I don't know if it would end up becoming a new Riviera, but I'll tell you what, if this is a thing where 20, 25 years from now, Gaza is basically like a tourist hub attraction, and you've got Middle East cruises stopping off to Gaza, and it looks like Dubai, and here's the big wave machine pools that people are playing in, and the I mean, if anybody can have a vision for a strip of land, as far as developing goes, it's Donald Trump. But, you know, John, if that's what Gaza is 25 years from now, then I don't know how Donald Trump does not seriously have an entire chapter in the history books as far as the Middle East goes.
SPEAKER 02 :
I agree. And to your point, yes, everything that I think he envisions could easily happen, the thing you're going to be up against. And this is where, you know, maybe I sound maybe, you know, too negative, but at the end of the day, when you got a bunch of knucklehead terrorists running things, Bob, good luck with that. I mean, at the end of the day, these guys don't have the same vision business wise that even the rest of the Middle East has. And this is where, you know, those that say, well, they're all in they're all in the same camp. Not really. I mean, there is a huge separation between, you know, even the guys that, you know, again, do I agree with everything that, you know, Dubai does? Do I agree with everything that the UAE does? Do I agree with everything that Saudi Arabia does? Of course not. Do I feel like those guys are in our camp and are as kind-hearted and have the same concern for the world that the three of us do? Absolutely not. But do they think like those guys do in Hamas? No, they do not. There's a vast chasm between those two individuals. And frankly, by the way, going back to will this stick? Yeah, because I think those other countries that I just mentioned are going to make sure that it sticks, because if there's anybody that has vision to do what you're talking about, Bob, it's those guys I just mentioned.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah. And can I jump in for I just got to jump in for one second to further what you're saying, John? Yes. You know, all of this, you know, reconstruction thing, turn it into like the new Dubai. That's a great idea. And it would cause people to really be able to consider something different for this part of the world. But you've got to root out And this is a spiritual thing. You can't root it out politically or economically or any other way. The demonic hatred of Israel. Why? Because the Redeemer, Jesus, came from Israel and God's redemption plan includes Israel in that sense. And Satan doesn't want that. He doesn't want it. And he wants to destroy Israel, wipe it off the face of the earth. And so until that seed is removed, it's not going to happen. And I don't ultimately see any of this come into fruition where there's wave pools and hotels and everything for the simple reason that it would be destroyed again and again and again by people that hate Israel and hate peace and prosperity. They hate anything that has to do with God and His blessings.
SPEAKER 02 :
The only way that would come to fruition is, like I said a moment ago, Neil, would be as if the powers that be in Saudi Arabia, Qatar, places like that, say, listen, guys, we're going to come in there, we're going to pump a bunch of money, and we're going to get things all done and dialed in. And by the way... You guys are, you know, you're never to be heard or seen again. We're going to change things up and do things completely different. And, you know, let's figure out how this is going to work. Because to your point, Neil, if they run around acting like they are right now, that thing will never, it'll be a pile of rubble forever.
SPEAKER 04 :
Actually, Neil, I'm kind of curious to get your take also on how this may play into end times, not getting into too much of the eschatological weeds. But, you know, when I was talking about this on my show this week, and I had a couple of listeners saying, Bob, do you think this is maybe a little bit of heading toward the Antichrist, not that Trump would be the Antichrist?
SPEAKER 02 :
Oh, no, no, really quick, Bob. A false sense of peace in the Middle East. The conspiracy is that Jared Kushner is the Antichrist. Yeah, right. But true.
SPEAKER 04 :
I've seen it. His dad's the ambassador of France, so I don't know what that means. But no, but there is a certain sense of, okay, well, is there going to be a false sense of peace in the Middle East, which many interpret revelation to kind of setting the stage for the Antichrist coming is a false sense of peace, especially in the Could this be that unfolding? We know things are going to get worse before Jesus returns, but there could be some temporary reversals in the downward decline. And to me, I see this as one of the temporary reversals and not necessarily to the false peace that's setting up Armageddon. I don't know. What's your take on it?
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, there's a lot of different views, obviously, about eschatology in the end times and very divergent views. So let's just say that right out of the box. But, you know, does the scripture talk about a false peace during the 70th week of Daniel really kicking off the 70th week of Daniel? Yes. Meaning the seven year tribulation period, whatever. So to your point, somebody might be saying, well, OK, peace, Middle East, Donald Trump, you know, getting a lot of accolades for this. Didn't get the Nobel Prize. Maybe we'll talk about that later. But either way, you know, like, could this be it? And I think no, but I think it's close. I mean, I honestly believe that, you know, Bible prophecy will be fulfilled. God makes good on his promises. And one way or another, there's going to be somebody rise to power named Antichrist, and he's going to do everything he can to deceive. God's people and anyone who might be drawn to Jesus. So, yeah, what we're seeing unfolding, it all has to do with moving towards the end times. Life here in the United States involves moving towards the end times. But is this it yet? I don't think so.
SPEAKER 04 :
And by the way, we got a lot more to talk about in the second half, of course, regarding this, including, you know, who gets the credit? How much credit does Trump get? What about the Nobel Peace Prize? And did Joe Biden really set the stage for this? And so we got a lot more to talk about. But Neil, first, we do want people to support our sponsors and one of them, of course, SunPowerLED.
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We'll continue in the second half of the National Crawford Roundtable podcast with myself, Bob Duco, the Bob Duco Show out of Detroit, Neil Boron, Neil Boron Live out of Buffalo, New York, John Rush, Rush to Reason out of Denver, Colorado, talking about, of course, the big news, the Middle East peace deal between Israel and Hamas in Gaza. And we've talked about many aspects of this already, the release of the hostages, where those peace agreements stick, the historic nature of this. Let's start talking about credit, if we will. First of all, John, I got to get your take on this. Joe Biden and Antony Blinken actually claiming that they are the ones who really set the foundation for this peace agreement. All Donald Trump did was, as Biden said, take it over the finish line. And as Antony Blinken, who was Biden's secretary of state, as he said that it's a good thing that the Trump administration adopted our plan. It's like, you've got to be kidding me. There was no 20-point plan put together by the Biden administration. This is absurd. Donald Trump made happen what nobody else was able to make happen. And I just, I got to tell you, John, I find this laughable that Joe Biden and Antony Blinken can try to claim what... We're the ones who did this. He just took it over the finish line.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah, these guys weren't even close to the finish line. They just had a safety, by the way. So they weren't even close to being in the game, as you know, Bob.
SPEAKER 04 :
You're right, it's a safety. They were 100 yards away.
SPEAKER 02 :
Exactly, exactly. I mean, at the end of the day, yeah, I mean, it's – it's laughable and i think it's probably why you haven't even heard you know trump even come back and say much about that because at the end of the day i mean anybody believing that i mean granted there's a lot of hardcore lefties out there they're gonna believe anything these guys say but at the end of the because trump can do no right we'll talk about that i'm sure bob in the media how no matter what do you mean as you've said before the guy could cure cancer and there'd be some some problem with that in the media so at the end of the day they're not going to give him credit for anything but yeah To think for a second that these other knuckleheads had anything to do with what went on this past week or so, yeah, no, they didn't have anything to do with this at all.
SPEAKER 04 :
I don't know, Neil. What do you think? I mean, hey, you know, Joe Biden, he was he was I can totally picture Joe Biden working behind the scenes with Qatar and Egypt and a bunch of these other nations and convincing these Muslim leaders to join in on his 20 point plan. And I'm just glad that, you know, he had the baton and was willing to hand it to Donald Trump right before the finish line.
SPEAKER 05 :
I think Joe Biden and Anthony Blinken are both lying. Neither one had anything to do with this. This was Jill Biden, actually. Jill did this and was able to help create this. I'm kidding. Come on. The Biden administration. Really? gotten nowhere on the whole Gaza situation. And they had no influence whatsoever on Muslim nations or on Hamas. And there was no threat seen, you know, to the future of all that was going on. So no, it didn't happen. And I give them credit for trying to take you know, credit for it, for trying to say it was them. Hey, good for you. Maybe you can score a couple of brownie points from the people that aren't really paying attention. But I think by and large, everybody knows, including liberals and progressives who actually hate the idea that Donald Trump is making progress on these kinds of things. They just, they detest it. They can't believe it. How in the world does this guy pull it off? But Donald Trump was very effective in helping to bring this about. This had nothing to do with the Biden administration.
SPEAKER 04 :
You know, let's – John, let's talk about the – look, you guys know, for the most part, I'm a pretty staunch Trump defender. It doesn't mean I agree with everything he does, of course. But you talk about something that's very much in his wheelhouse. Trump has proven himself the true master of the art of the deal. I mean, because we've got to remember, this guy – You hear terms like 5-D chess or whatever, but this really is how Trump operates. He started at the United Nations General Assembly. What we now know is that he was backstage meeting with all of these Muslim Arab leaders and getting them on board first. And so now you have a situation where he puts together a plan that he had several Arab Muslim nations that were supporting this and backing this. You've got the prime minister of Pakistan, which is a nuclear Muslim nation, Islamic nation, and you now have them praising Donald Trump. The man stood there and saluted Donald Trump and said, I salute you and nominating you for the Nobel Peace Prize. When you have Muslim leaders, and we were told, You recall that Donald Trump was such an Islamophobe and he wanted a Muslim ban in this country. Well, guess what? The Muslim leaders throughout the Middle East have exposed our dishonest media is corrupt in this area because they're like, no, he's not. We're working with him against Hamas. But for Trump to get not just Israel, but Israel. world leaders, including a bunch of Arab Muslim nations and the European Union nations and Canada and Mexico and everybody else to basically join him, stand up on stage with him and say, yep, we're with you as he's the leader of the free world. And he got all those chess pieces in line like that. That is some master negotiating. I mean, the art of the deal is not just some empty kind of stuff. This guy actually genuinely is a master dealmaker.
SPEAKER 02 :
Correct. Yeah. And you're right, Bob, this is right in his wheelhouse. These are the things that that, frankly, as I said earlier, media in the left will never give him credit for. And the other thing, too, not that we need to go down this path today, but, you know, the economic crisis. end of things as well, which, by the way, Bob, this and Neil both, this does play into that as well. I've said this before. President Trump knows the best way to have a good, strong, vibrant economy here and, believe it or not, around the world is to get rid of all of these wars and all the other nonsense that's going on. And it's it's probably the opposite of what a lot of other folks out there would think. And what I mean by that is, you know, there's still those, you know, quote unquote warmongers running around, Bob, that will tell you that, oh, no, war is good for the economy. You know what? Those were the old days. It's not any longer. The reality is because of consumer confidence and all sorts of other things that play into it more so now than probably ever. Reality, Bob, is, you know, war is not good for the economy. And Donald Trump knows that. And to your point, he knows how to get these things done at the end of the day. He really does.
SPEAKER 04 :
And Neil, even some in the... In the media, although they're reluctant to give Trump credit for anything, even some in the media have been going, you know, it's like swallowing a horse pill for them. But, OK, you know, let's give him some credit here. But the fact is that this really is. If this were anybody with a name other than Trump, they'd be they'd be scoping out space for a fifth head on Mount Rushmore. If this were anybody else but Trump. So I really do think that this is remarkable to bring the world together in this way. And for him to pull this off, I don't know how anybody can be reluctant to acknowledge his skill and ability at negotiating and dealmaking.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah. Now, because there's always more to the story, let me just say I agree with you for the most part across the board. But let's remember that this is a 20 point peace plan and this thing could go south at any point. Some of these there's some real sticking points in there if you actually read. all 20 points. And we're dealing with Hamas largely. Where's Hamas going to fall on all of this? And would you trust your grandkids to be babysat by Hamas? Not me. No, thanks. I don't trust Hamas at all. And I don't think anybody else should, which is why it's good that there's this coalition group that's going to kind of oversee this. So hopefully it all works out. If it doesn't, then you know all of this is kind of premature so like i think most of the celebrating about donald trump's accomplishment should happen if this is still in place two years from now and they're building you know uh resort getaways in a dubai-like gaza you know where all of a sudden real progress is happening and peace is is continuing so i i think it has to play out a little bit i just think it's too early
SPEAKER 04 :
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Absolutely. And we appreciate you folks supporting our sponsors. We continue to talk about the Middle East peace deal that Donald Trump managed to successfully get negotiated. And did he do it alone? No. But did he orchestrate it? Absolutely. Absolutely. And the fact that he got so many nations around the world, including Middle Eastern nations, to come together for this is really incredible. And it does bring me to the Nobel Peace Prize issue. And, John, I want to ask you about this. First, I want to give my take on this. The Nobel Prize Committee, we know they're a bunch of liberals anyway. I hate to say it, but the Nobel Peace Prize, it doesn't have the prestige that it possibly had at one time. This is nothing more than a bunch of liberals who are deciding who they want to give it to. I'm not saying that this Venezuelan peace activist who has spoken out against Maduro, I'm not saying she's not doing noble work down there, of course. But to give the Nobel Peace Prize to her instead of Donald Trump, when you look at what he's accomplished over the course of this year, eight, count them, eight peace deals and ceasefires between warring nations, including nations that have been at war with each other for decades, like Rwanda and Congo, Azerbaijan and Armenia. They've been at war for over 30 years, India and Pakistan, two Muslim nations, so eight Eight different peace agreements overall in just a few months' time. Any one of those on their own would get the Nobel Peace Prize for any other president. So this is a Nobel committee being the leftists that they are. And let me just say on a side note. This isn't something new for them. I'm just going to take a side note. Bear with me a moment here. But the Nobel Peace Prize for the MRI, the Nobel Peace Prize in medicine, do you know the inventor of the MRI is a man by the name of Dr. Raymond Damadian? Yeah. He invented the MRI. He has the patent for it. He had two assistants that helped him once he patented it and created it, helped him in developing some additional features of it. All right. Do you know the Nobel Prize Committee gave the Nobel Prize to the two assistants and not the inventor himself? And... Tell me if you think this is a coincidence. Raymond Damadian happens to be a born-again evangelical Christian who's a young earth creationist. Okay? There's your answer. This is nothing new for the Nobel Prize Committee. But I do want to make sure and say this, and then I'll throw it over to you, John. Okay? A lot of people are saying, well – The Nobel Committee didn't have a choice because the deadline for nominations was January 31st. And Donald Trump had just been sworn into office. He didn't make any of these peace deals yet. All right. I'll tell you why that's a bogus argument. Number one. You have previous nominations already. He had the Abraham Accords already. That right there is a justifiable reason to say, hey, they're still intact. Let's give it to him. Secondly, the Nobel Committee, they can gather together and say, you know what? Let's vote to go ahead and allow a late entry here because he's been flooded with Nobel Prize nominations around the world. It's not like it's international law. that you have to let the deadline be January 31st. So they could have easily made an exception in this case because it's such an exceptional year. And then finally, thirdly, you have a United States Congresswoman, December 11th of last year, who officially nominated Donald Trump. And she is an officially accepted nominator as well. So he actually was nominated before January 31st. So no, this is clearly a snub from the Nobel Prize Committee.
SPEAKER 02 :
Well, and to prove that, if the next deadline, which is coming up here pretty quickly, if he doesn't get it next year, Bob, that tells you everything you just said is true.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right. Believe it or not, I actually do tend to think that they probably will give it to him next year unless some kind of horribly disastrous thing happens that tarnishes his legacy in a bad way. But other than that, I've got to imagine that the backlash they're getting is like, okay, this is embarrassing.
SPEAKER 02 :
They'll clean it up next year.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah. Which, by the way, Neil, the Venezuelan lady, the activist who who was given the Nobel Peace Prize, she even said, I dedicate this to Donald Trump. So I think the Nobel Prize committee themselves have some serious egg on their face.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, I don't think they care, though. And obviously two different things entirely. But for the same reason, Bruce Jenner was named Woman of the Year by what, Time magazine or whatever? Right. It's another one of those things. This is politics. This has nothing to do with what's right. It has to do with adhering to a narrative. And they found the next most qualified person in their mind on the planet and said, oops, there's our person. Now we don't have to pick Donald Trump. But I agree with John 100% that if he's not a recipient next year, that'll tell you everything you need to know. But however, like I said, there's 20 points to this peace plan. Even so, he's had a tremendous impact. No matter what happens in Gaza, I think he would be deserving anyway. So we'll see.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah. Well, I don't think really, John, that anybody is going to take the Nobel Peace Prize that seriously anymore. It's kind of like the Academy Awards.
SPEAKER 02 :
They're losing their fervor in this and what you're saying. You're exactly right.
SPEAKER 04 :
It takes the shine off of the gold of the prize. Academy Awards, they're not for whoever really was the best actor or what was really the best movie. They're for who they like the best and their insider people. Same thing with Time Magazine. Yeah, Time Magazine person of the year. That's a joke. Which, by the way, did you guys see the Time magazine cover, the photo that they used of Donald Trump? I don't know if you saw that or not. They put him on the cover to run cover for themselves going, see, we're covering his, we're even calling it his triumph. Okay. But of all the stock photos, you got millions and millions of stock photos that you can use of Donald Trump. They pick an unflattering image where the sun shining down on him and the shot is shooting up and it looks like he's bald. He looks like a bald guy with one strand of comb over hair just in the angle of the shot.
SPEAKER 02 :
I didn't see that.
SPEAKER 04 :
You got to look at it. I just looked it up. It's pathetic. It's unbelievable. Trump even posted on. He's like, really? You use a photograph of me. That's got to be the worst picture ever. That makes me look bald. They disappeared my hair. And it's... Very few people look flattering when you're taking a picture from chest level up at the head and you see his chin and, you know, his neck and everything else. And then he looks like, literally looks like he's bald.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yep. I've seen it. Wow. Come on. No, I see it. Yeah. No, you're correct. Yeah. That's the only one they could pick. Doesn't even look like him.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, you know, when I lived in D.C. for two years working for Focus on the Family and Family News and Focus, I would stand on the corner waiting for the bus to come to take me to the subway. And there'd be side-by-side Washington Post, Washington Times, newspapers. And there was always some congratulatory headline for anybody named Clinton. And if anyone else who was a solid Republican or conservative or George W. Bush or whoever – They absolutely had the same kind of thing, horrible pictures and horrible headlines, and they just literally lay it out like that. So I don't know. I wouldn't take it too seriously. This is what the media does, and people need to pay attention. They don't want to paint him in a flattering light. They want to do everything they can to discredit him.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, that is absolutely true. By the way, John, what's your take on how some of the press and the leftists have handled this whole thing? You know, it's interesting, the Hollywood celebrities, they are silent.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah, I was going to say crickets. Haven't heard a word.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, but hold on a second. I'm confused because these are the same Hollywood celebrities that spent the last two years shedding tears saying that we need a ceasefire, we need a ceasefire. When can we have a ceasefire? You got a ceasefire now. Yeah. And now you have humanitarian aid rolling into Gaza. So why aren't they celebrating? Why are they crickets?
SPEAKER 02 :
Because they're a bunch of hypocrites, Bob. You already know that answer.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, I know. I thought I'd give you a softball anyway.
SPEAKER 02 :
Bunch of hypocrites.
SPEAKER 04 :
Actually, it really – I'll tell you what. I know this is cynical, but I'm just going to say it. I've said this many times. The liberal left in this country, their hatred for Donald Trump or for that matter anything conservative or Christian, but especially Donald Trump, their hatred for Donald Trump outweighs – The love that they have for the things that they claim they value. They claim they value diversity. They claim they value tolerance. They claim they value peace and such. No, they don't value these things. If they did, then they'd be celebrating peace in Gaza right now and humanitarian aid rolling in.
SPEAKER 02 :
That's right. But they're not celebrating Europe.
SPEAKER 04 :
It means that they have to swallow the horse pill of giving credit to Trump.
SPEAKER 02 :
Absolutely. Absolutely.
SPEAKER 04 :
So what's your take on that, Neil? Do you think just your observation of how the press, the Democrats, the news media, the gals on The View and the Hollywood celebrities are treating the Donald Trump factor now?
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, they're all eating crow right now and they're praying for the next news story to get off the subject so they can move on to something else because they have egg all over their face, like you said earlier. And there's no way around it. He's been instrumental in helping to bring about peace, at least to this degree. And we'll see where it leads long term. But this is not just Donald Trump saying, hey, there's going to be peace in the Middle East. There's a coalition. of nations that are saying, this is what we want, this is what we'll support, and we'll be a part of this process. So I think, by and large, he should be celebrated, and it's not going to happen from people that can't stand him in the first place. Right.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah. By the way, what does happen? Neil, what happens with the other terrorists? First of all, Hamas isn't going to go away completely, of course. Islamic jihadi terrorism isn't going to go away, so we know that. And Iran certainly would still want to try to use Hamas, but... What do you think happens to people like Hezbollah and Boko Haram and some of these other terrorist organizations? Do they end up dying on the vine and losing their support? Or do they just get a bigger piece of the pie if Hamas gets reduced? What do you think happens to terrorism in general?
SPEAKER 05 :
I don't know because I'm not an expert on terrorism. I think it would probably be the bigger piece of the pie kind of thing because terrorism isn't going to go away. It's part of the fabric of people that hate God's people. Bottom line is, and we talked about it earlier, It's demonically inspired. But, you know, by and large, I think it's going to continue to just find new ways to make it happen. You know, new sites to operate from new ways to carry out terrorist activity, maybe even change the name of the organization. Who knows? So that, you know, people can't track the activities. But the people that are consumed by hatred, the people that are demonically driven to, you know, to eliminate Israel are not going away. And they may go underground for a while. They may find some other place to do what they do. But we can expect to see more of it in the future, but hopefully not in Gaza.
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You bet. And we always do appreciate you folks listening to us. And by the way, of course, we record this on Wednesday mornings. And yesterday, the Presidential Medal of Freedom was given posthumously to Charlie Kirk, to his wife, Erica, from President Trump at the White House. You know, great ceremony. Yesterday was Charlie Kirk's birthday. And so obviously, we encourage everybody to continue to pray for the Kirk family and everyone that's been so affected by the devastating assassination. In the meantime, Neil Boron, Neil Boron Live out of Buffalo, New York. John Rush, Rush Region out of Denver, Colorado. Myself, Bob Duco, The Bob Duco Show out of Detroit. Guys, always great catching up with you. Thanks a lot. Have a great week. We'll see you all next week. You too. Thanks, Bob. All right. We bet. Take care.
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SPEAKER 01 :
Welcome to The Good News with Angie Austin. Now, with The Good News, here's Angie.
SPEAKER 04 :
Hey there, friend. Angie Austin with the good news. The good news is Jackie Calloway is back and joining us. I went on vacation and I missed her for a couple of weeks. Did a little fall break with the kids. We've talked about her book, Suicide, Don't Do It, which was, wow, such a testimony when she was a teenager and she was pregnant and how she considered taking her life and the miracle that God performed in her life. And then also about her marriage, the divorce, and then getting back together with her husband, getting remarried and and Counseling Couples Together, and that book, Love That Would Not Let Me Go, Jackie Calloway. And then she's working on a new book, Till Death Do Us Part. Welcome back, Jackie.
SPEAKER 02 :
Thank you, Angie. Good to be back.
SPEAKER 04 :
You know, I love it that one of your callings is to, you know, And I can see that you have that gift. So let's talk about that. But first, let's start with your new book. Tell us a little bit about this new book that you're working on, Till Death Do Us Part.
SPEAKER 02 :
Well, as you know, my husband and I were married for 28 years, divorced for seven years because of adultery and several other things. But in 1996, God miraculously reconciled us, first to Himself and then to one another. And then we had 24 more years of a wonderful marriage. And I always tell people that God's reconciliation looks a whole lot different than just plain reconciliation. He always does exceeding abundantly above all that we can ask or think according to the power that works in us.
SPEAKER 04 :
Jackie, first of all, 28 years marriage, it was not good. Then divorced, so that's 35 years of that chunk, and then remarried almost as long as you remarried the first time, 24, and that it was glorious and such a different marriage. And as you put it, the marriage that God led was so different than the first marriage. You said it was a new man, that he really was transformed. I love your testimony. It's so inspiring to me.
SPEAKER 02 :
And it is exciting for me, too, because it was something that I never dreamed could happen the way it did. But God did reconcile us, and he's asked me to share in this new book, Till Death Do Us Part, that he is still in the marriage business. And we learned how to do marriage God's way. And that was what He really wanted when He reconciled us, for us to be an example of marriage His way, the way He intended our marriage to be from the beginning. And we experienced so many miraculous situations He supplied all of our need according to His riches and glory by Christ Jesus. And He loved us individually and collectively through that 24 years of marriage. And I just want to share with women and men, but especially the ladies, to take advantage of the love that you have in your marriage and to make God certainly not just the center of the relationship, but to be able to saturate your relationship with the love of God and His instructions for your marriage. The Lord has taught me to share with younger women some of the things that I have learned in this, well, in both marriages, really, but especially in this second marriage. And, gee, I don't even really like to call it that we were remarried because it was truly, totally new from the beginning to the ending. And as you know, my husband went home to be with the Lord in December 2020. And even that, his parting was so sweet that there were lessons learned in that also that I want to share with people and with women in particular. Sure.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, I want to hear that for sure. I mean, I've heard some of the story, but share with us.
SPEAKER 02 :
Well, first of all, in the beginning of our marriage, the second marriage, the Lord, I was still very reluctant, and the Lord had told me to trust Him with all my heart and lean not to my own understanding, but in all my ways acknowledge Him. And he would direct my paths. So I went into this second marriage, even though we had forgiven one another and we had made the decision to bury all the old stuff, all of the lies and the unforgiveness. We buried that before we married. and never to bring it up again and the miraculous thing is we never did bring up any of the old memories the old hurts and that to me was the first miracle wow yeah because um i i had been really hurt in that last marriage But God saw me through the divorce. So as we walked through this new marriage, Ronnie was a totally changed and new man. And that was the second miracle for me, because at first I was waiting for the other shoe to drop. And it It never dropped. As a matter of fact, there was not a shoe. He wooed me and he loved me and he cherished me in this second marriage. And the reason was he was sold out to God.
SPEAKER 04 :
Oh, I love it.
SPEAKER 02 :
He was sold out to God. There was not a pretense. there was not any phony anything. He was sold out to God. And the Lord had told me during the divorce that he said, you asked me to speak to him face to face, just like I did Moses. And he told me, I can't speak to him face to face because you are still in his face.
SPEAKER 04 :
Whoa, Jackie.
SPEAKER 02 :
I love that. He said, stop trying to help him. Let me speak to him face to face. And I backed up. I took my hands off. I was not anymore enabling him in any way. And so through that time, the Lord was able to speak to him face to face. And Ronnie told me he did. I asked him, I said, when we were divorced, did you ever think about me? And he said, every night that I laid my head on the pillow, he said, the Lord was speaking to me about you. And I was like, wow. So anyway, the lesson I learned in that is when God does it, he does it well. Scripture says he doeth all things well. So when we have our hand in things, it can be half done. It can be totally jacked up. But when God does it, he does it thoroughly and completely. And he does it according to his will. And that's what I learned in that situation.
SPEAKER 04 :
Wow. So you had to give up control or what you thought was your control because you didn't have any control over Ronnie.
SPEAKER 02 :
I had none. I had none. And in this marriage, I was able to see what a complete job the Lord had done on him. And, uh, with his heart, I was downstairs one day, um, doing something and Ronnie was upstairs and all of a sudden I heard him say, thank you, Jesus. Praise you, Father. Hallelujah. And I was like, wow. I said, Lord, you really did him well. You really fixed him because I had never heard him break out in praise like that to the Lord.
SPEAKER 04 :
So when you talk about, you know, women, you know, I know you mentioned he golfed and that his mistresses would golf with him and that you were never interested and you felt in your heart like you hadn't shown interest in something that brought him joy, but you were irritated because you were working and sometimes he wasn't employed. And so you saw it was kind of like a thorn in your side, this golf. And then you realized this was important to him. And that maybe you should have given him more of like the time of day when it came to, or his golf the time of day, so that he'd feel appreciated or admired or respected.
SPEAKER 02 :
Well, the Lord actually told me that I said to the Lord, what about all those women? And he said they played with him. And I said, okay. See, I was never a playmate. And I would suggest to wives that you play with your husbands. What is it that they enjoy? And whether you enjoy it or not, at least go with them. And so in the second marriage, Ronnie bought me some golf clubs.
SPEAKER 04 :
And I learned the game of golf.
SPEAKER 02 :
and i would go with him sometimes i still didn't i still wasn't into it like he was because if the sun was up ronnie was on the golf course so i still though learned the game of golf and i helped him with his with his stance i would tell him um You're not holding your head down. Your weight is not even. I would go with him and just check out his stats and all that. He appreciated that so much. He loved that. So I would say to you ladies, find out what your husband's game is.
SPEAKER 04 :
All right. Yeah, I'm thinking about that. Let's take a break because I hate it when you and I run out of time. So we're just going to take more time today. So hang on. We'll be right back with the good news with Jackie Calloway.
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SPEAKER 04 :
Hey, it's The Good News with Angie Austin. Jackie Calloway and I continue our conversation. She is talking about, you know, the divorce. Well, first of all, we'll just recap. Love That Would Not Let Me Go. That's the book that Jackie and I have talked about a lot. She's working on a new one now, Till Death Do Us Part. She and Ronnie were married 28 years and then they were divorced for seven and then remarried for 24 years. fantastic fabulous amazing years in that marriage the Lord was right front and center and you said that golf was something he loved in your first marriage you just saw it as a thorn maybe in your side that took him away from you and work and the girls and then you're saying that when you were remarried the Lord made you realize that was important to him and you should play with him. And so we should figure out what is our husband's game, what brings our husband's joy, what should we be doing with them that they might consider to be fun. So continue with that thought and I'll tell you something we've been doing lately.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yes, it's very important that you show your spouse that you are just as interested in what he is interested in And that even if you don't go all in with it, and especially if it's something wholesome, I'm not saying get involved with something that is off the rails.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right. We don't want to be out gambling or at the horse track with them or, you know, poker.
SPEAKER 02 :
Exactly.
SPEAKER 04 :
Off the rails. I love it, Jackie. I'm not going off the rails, girl. Don't worry.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yes, don't. But to... Almost study your husband and see what excites him and what he enjoys and get involved in that. And be that lap that he can lay his head on. You remember Delilah and Samson and Delilah. He laid his head on her lap. Be that lap that your husband can feel safe enough to lay his head on. And the other thing that I would say to you ladies, cherish your husbands. Look at them and see. Don't always pick out the fault, what they're doing wrong, what they're saying wrong. But look at what they're doing right. Look at the qualities that are in your husbands that God has placed there that you can appreciate and bring to their attention. I used to tell Ronnie in the second marriage, I appreciate that you're such a good provider. You look and see what I need. and you supply it for me and I appreciate that. And the other thing that Ronnie would do when I would go to the grocery store, I would come back and I would bring in one bag and then he would get up and go out and get the rest of the groceries and bring them in. He never wanted me to lift too much or Carry a heavy load. And I appreciated that about him. But see what your husband does that you can appreciate and that you can thank him for and that you can praise him for.
SPEAKER 04 :
You know, yesterday he did so much. Well, he got the kids working, too. They washed my car. They cleaned out the hot tub and refilled it. And it's heating up because I said it might be nice to use it for the winter. And then they washed my car. um he fixed the garage door which that took a lot he had to reinstall like he had to do a keypad and then put in the whole device up top you know get up on the ladder and replace the entire like none of the mechanisms the mechanism was broken so we had to do that and then they got all the leaves out of the front and backyard and bagged them to go out to the trash then my daughter the little one did like four loads of laundry and we folded those and then she went around the yard and picked up you you know, trash. And then my son, oh yeah, he had my son doing all kind, like all day. And then they had their chores at night, which was like, you know, clean the kitchen. You know, that takes like 15 minutes. But my husband even wrote them all like a thank you note saying, wow, you guys really helped out today. We got so much done. And he winterized the sprinkler system And then we have a swamp cooler, which is like old school, but it works so well. But in the winter you have to cover it because all that cold air still can get into the house and like circulate. So you have to like winterize it and cover it up. So anyway, they did all of that in one day. And so he told me, I'm shocked that his brother's getting a divorce. We just found out that they, after about 15 years, they're getting a divorce. And I, my, my chin fell on the floor. Like I thought they were best friends. Like my husband and I are, there's just two boys in his family. And so we were really surprised. I said, what? Why? Like they they they don't have money problems. They don't have I mean, they just I mean, they're like beautiful people and they have a beautiful home, a beautiful life. And, you know, she stays home and he has a great career and he's going to retire with a pension at like, you know, in his early 50s. And I'm like, why? Why? he said well you know how you compliment me all the time and like you kind of build me up and make me feel good and you're really appreciative of like the work i do and this that and the other which i it was great to hear that from him because i do make an effort to make sure he knows he's appreciated and i believe he could do anything he just finished a brick walkway in front of her house that took like five months because he had to dig so much and lay cut each of one of the paver brick stones and it was just it's like a piece of art and it's long it's you know it's like i don't know 30 feet long and wide like four feet wide it's just it was so much work and um i mean some of those bricks are as big as a domino that he cut like i can't even believe he did it and he said well she doesn't every time he wants to do something she says you can't do that or what what you're not going to do how do you know how to do that you don't know how to do that and he said that she's very critical of him whereas i am complimentary and i thought What a horrible reason for a marriage to not work when you've got their daughters maybe... I don't know. They don't live here, by the way, so they don't hear my show. But she's about maybe 10. So, you know, they're getting a divorce. And I'm like, why can't somebody swallow their pride and work this out? This seems like the most unnecessary divorce to me ever. Just learn how to communicate better. But... You know, they're going through with it and they're selling their house and they're doing all that. And I'm just so surprised because to me, it seems so unnecessary. And I just feel, you know, people throw in the towel too easily. But something as simple as complimenting your husband, which I mean, gosh, think about the effort that I put into that over the last 20 years of our marriage. Not much. I mean, it doesn't take much effort to tell your husband you appreciate all the things he does and how hard he works for the family. and then i compliment him in front of the kids and say you know if you can do a job like dad does it then that's an a plus job we always joke around that sometimes the kids will do c effort and i'm like you'll never see your dad give c effort everything he does is a plus effort like when he did our tile in our bathroom he learned to do it on youtube and then he didn't like that the shower they he had to pour it with concrete it wasn't like just a plastic thing you threw in there and he had to get the grade exactly right and he felt at the back of the shower the little bit of water settled and he'd have to push it into the drain and so he broke it apart and redid the entire thing and i'm like No one would have even known that when we sold the house because the shower would be dry. No one would know that there's like a one-inch puddle, you know, that goes the length of the shower. But he had to redo the entire thing. And that's just an example of how everything he does has to be done well. And so look at that little bit of effort I put in our marriage that makes the difference between, he thinks, his brother's marriage and his.
SPEAKER 02 :
But when it is not God's marriage... it makes a huge difference. Because one of the things I told you that God ministered to us in the second marriage, individually and collectively. And if you both don't have a relationship with Jesus Christ, it makes all the difference in the world. And when things would get We really never argued in the second marriage. Wow. But we didn't always agree.
SPEAKER 03 :
Right.
SPEAKER 02 :
Because we're two different people. So how did that work? Well, the Lord had told me before we married, if you ever can't agree on something, come aside with me. And that's what I would do. And that's what Ronnie would do. I would, you know, I would be like, oh, Lord Ronnie is thinking this way, and I can't believe he's thinking that he's going to do this or that, the other. And the Lord would say to me when I would get quiet, but what is your attitude? I'd be like, But wait a minute, I'm talking about Ronnie.
SPEAKER 04 :
Oh, that's funny.
SPEAKER 02 :
And he would be like, what is your attitude, Jackie? Check yourself according to the word of God. And I would always be able, and Ronnie would too, and sometimes I'm going back to apologize for him, to him, for not trying to understand where he was coming from. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. And he would be on his way to apologize to me.
SPEAKER 04 :
Oh, wow.
SPEAKER 02 :
And it was supernatural, I'm telling you. But it was because both of us were yielded to Jesus Christ and the Word of God and making the marriage work. But you need two people. You really do need to have two people.
SPEAKER 04 :
With one. With the Lord holding hands. Yeah, and with the Lord in the middle. Now, when you talk about ministering to younger women, how has that, obviously that's good advice for women in terms of making their marriage happy, making sure that they do things their husband enjoys and play, have fun with them. We've been doing family movie nights. My husband's not a movie guy, but we've seen a couple of good ones. We saw that one on that Duck Dynasty family and his testimony there. And how he really started off on the wrong foot in their marriage, which I think you'd really get a kick out of. I'll get the name of it because I forgot what it was called. But it's about how they had also separated and they were going to end their marriage. And they ended up becoming... highly successful and had that show Duck Dynasty, which was big for many years. And it's The Blind. So we went to that. He liked it. It was a little corny, but it had a great message and his testimony of how the Lord changed his life and transformed their marriage. And boy, they've been married almost 60 years now or something. And and then we've done a few dinners and we went to the theater this weekend. We went to Mama Mia and we took the girls. And so we've been trying to do family things, which I know he gets a kick out of that because we do a lot of family sports together and stuff like that. So we've been doing that because that's kind of he doesn't do anything separate from the family. He doesn't do any golf or fun or boys' nights or anything. It's work or family. That's it. And so that's what I've been doing with him. And since the kids are all in high school, we know we don't have a ton of things left. And he even went to Disney with us, which isn't really his thing, but we had a blast. We went on fall break and we did Universal Studios, like the Haunted Nights, which the kids all love. And then I went with my nephew as well, who lives out in California. And then we did Disney, which... He kind of gave in and did it with us, even though it's highway robbery. But he had a blast. He didn't complain the whole time about lines and how expensive it is. He had fun. So we're trying to do more things together as a family because we know that that's limited. And maybe eventually we'll take a vacation without the kids. But at this point, we're just kind of trying to squeeze out all of the fun out of what we have left for you know, the family time since one of the kids is graduating this year, one next year, and then one in three years. So we've just got, you know, a bit of time left. I want to make sure people can find you, Jackie. What's the best way for people to find Jackie Calloway?
SPEAKER 02 :
Well, Healing from Crisis is my website. And you can also, the ministry phone number is 303- 307-0707. That's the office phone number. And we also did premarital counseling.
SPEAKER 04 :
Oh, I love that. Well, let's talk about that more next week because we're out of time. We used up the entire show today, just you and me, and I hope you all enjoyed it. Thanks for listening to The Good News. I'm Jackie Calloway. Thanks, Jackie.
SPEAKER 01 :
Thank you. Bye-bye. Thank you for listening to The Good News with Angie Austin on AM670 KLTT.
