
Dive into the heart of America's political arena with this episode of the Mike Gallagher Show. Mike offers an unfiltered commentary on the chaotic landscape of D.C. politics, drawing attention to the latest Senate Judiciary Committee hearings. In the spotlight is Pam Bondi, whose recent testimony sparked heated debate and revealed unsettling truths about the operations within the Department of Justice. Listen as we navigate through the multifaceted layers of political maneuvering and the implications for both Republicans and Democrats.
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From the wild world of D.C. politics to America's culture clash, brace yourself for the reality check you've been waiting for. The one and only Mike Gallagher Show.
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We had a big night here in New York. We had an online streaming event. trying to expose the real Zoran Mamdani, who is on the verge of being elected as New York's Islamist mayor, a guy who yesterday commemorated the October 7th massacre by blasting Israel. the victims of the October 7th massacre. Everything is upside down right now, it feels, but not to fear. We've got a whole lot of warriors on Capitol Hill. There's a lot of fighters. As we gathered last night, Joe Piscopo and Hugh Hewitt, Kevin McCullough, a bunch of great folks, Dottie Herman. And one thing we were all agreeing upon is that Trump has a whole different team of than he had in the first term. First term, he had kooky haters like Ty Cobb. He was one of Trump's lawyers. Now he's a never-Trumper and he's out blasting Trump and the administration every chance he gets. He had John Kelly. He had people that stabbed him in the back. He had people that were completely, completely and utterly betrayers. This time around, It's a whole new ballgame. Now he's got folks like Pam Bondi as his attorney general. Now, yesterday there was a Senate hearing that was ostensibly about this Jack Smith operation to literally spy on U.S. senators. This Jack Smith guy, I tell you what, you talk about bad news. We are talking big-time bad news. And so that's what the hearing was supposed to be about, but of course it became about ICE and it became about illegal immigration and all the virtue signaling by the Democrats. Well, Pam Bondi Put on a master class. This is how it's done. This is what we voted for. Grabian, our friends at Grabian who provide a lot of our video and audio clips, put together a little montage. I give you the great performance yesterday by Pam Bondi.
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For me, you would have been fired because you were censored by Congress for lying.
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We can stipulate to you can stipulate to all your personal attacks on the Democratic members of the committee.
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Personal attacks. You've been attacking my FBI director.
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You've been attacking my office.
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You've been. But we're interested in borders. All we're interested in is the answer to these oversight questions. So you were asked by my colleague. You were asked by my colleague.
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Attacking good people. Operation Arctic Frost was an unconstitutional, undemocratic abuse of power. During Arctic Frost, the FBI also placed 92 linked Republican individuals and Republican groups, such as Charlie Kirk's Turning Point. on their list. This is the kind of conduct that shattered the American people's faith in our government. We are ending this weaponization.
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I have to show to get the phone records of a sitting United States senator. You would have to have cause.
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Can you tell me why my phone records, when I'm the chairman of the Judiciary Committee, were sought by the Jack Smith agents? Do you think that was an abuse of power?
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Senator, I cannot discuss whether there is or is not an ongoing investigation. Senator Blumenthal, I find it so interesting that you didn't bring any of this up during President Biden's administration when he was doing everything to protect Hunter Biden, his son. And I think you just saw what Director Radcliffe just released.
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You know, this is an effort to be positive and constructive.
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If I can finish answering the question, I'm not going to yell over you. I'm not going to get in the gutter with you. But information... Information that the Biden administration told them not to investigate Hunter Biden's involvement with Ukraine. And I'm not going to be lectured to you about integrity by someone who lied about being in the military just to be elected a senator.
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I think it's been confirmed by the White House they are going to transfer Texas National Guard units to the state of Illinois. What's the rationale for that?
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You voted to shut down the government, and you're sitting here. Our law enforcement officers aren't being paid. They're out there working to protect you. I wish you loved Chicago as much as you hate President Trump. And currently, the National Guard are on the way to Chicago. If you're not going to protect your citizens, President Trump will.
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Wow. I mean, this is about as good as it gets. She's going to be lectured by stolen valor Blumenthal about integrity? You think Richard Blumenthal has any integrity? If you lied about serving in combat in Vietnam and the New York Times had to call you out for it, he's going to lecture her on anybody? On anything? No. Now, here's how you know how effective she was. Check out the unhinged reactions from the unhinged Trump-hating universe. I mentioned this goofy Thai cob with the funny mustache, the handlebar mustache.
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Check out his take on CNN. I think today she achieved one thing. She knocked John Mitchell off the perch of reprehensible attorney generals as number one, despite his guilty plea and time in jail.
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Yeah, John Mitchell, Nixon's AG, who famously or infamously, I should say, like helped put his wife in custody because he was afraid she was going to spill the beans. Well, Pam Bondi is worse than that. They're breathing into brown paper bags. They're hyperventilating. Let's check in and see how Nicole Wallace is doing over at MSNBC.
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What Attorney General Pam Bondi said before the members of the Senate Judiciary Committee this afternoon may very well go down as one of the most brazen, most shameless, most verifiably false statements ever uttered in that setting. Quote, the two-tiered system of justice is over. In fact, if Bondi's on-the-record testimony today served to prove anything out in public, anything at all, it is that a two-tiered system of justice has very much been operationalized. It's a new reality in the United States of America right now.
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So the loonies over at MSNBC are angrier at Pam Bondi pushing back against Democrat senators than they are the weaponization of the Justice Department by folks like Jack Smith. Here's what Kash Patel pointed out Jack Smith was actually up to.
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We found this information to expose the politicization by Jack Smith and the prior Department of Justice. I mean, just think about it. Eight sitting United States senators' phone records were gathered and subpoenaed through the grand jury process, and it was buried and wormholed with the hope that no one would find it. So we're just scratching the surface here, but accountability is coming.
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Yeah, accountability is coming. What's the line from Game of Thrones? Winter is here. Winter is coming. I think winter's coming for Jack Smith. You look up Arctic frost. Just look it up on the internet. Arctic frost and what that was. Chuck Grassley's inquiry into the FBI's Arctic frost investigation of January 6th. They were snooping and spying on the phone records of Republican... Congressman Mike Kelly, Senator Lindsey Graham, Senator Bill Hagerty, Senator Josh Hawley, Tommy Tuberville, Ron Johnson, Marsha Blackburn, and others. Our FBI was spying on U.S. Senators, all Republicans. And Nicole Wallace... thinks that Pam Bondi and her pushback was brazen and shameless. Hey, dummy, the brazen shamelessness comes from an FBI that is so corrupt. that they were illegally spying on our own U.S. senators. Again, Republicans all. Let's get your reaction to all of it here in the Relief Factor studios. It's Wednesday, October the 8th. Great to have you along for the ride. Thank you for tuning in. Thank you for watching on Salem News Channel, listening to us on your favorite radio station, following us online. Wherever, you know, you get us, we're just glad to be here for you. Our number is 800-655-MIKE. 15 past the hour. We have an open line or two, and you know me, I love loaded lines. I want to talk to you. I want Americans front and center here on the Mike Gallagher Show. 800-655-MIKE, 800-655-6453. I hope you join us. You know how much I care about family, tradition, and the kind of meals that bring people together. That's why I love telling you about Tri-Tales Premium Beef. They're a fifth-generation ranching family down in Texas, real ranchers, not corporations, and they put together something really special, the Autumn Butcher Box. Now, this box is about more than just dinner. It's about gathering your loved ones, creating memories, and feeding your legacy with beef raised the right way. From their ranch to your table, it's a taste of tradition that reminds us what family meals are supposed to be. And when you order this Autumn Butcher Box between now and October 19th, you get a pound of steak meat as a free bonus. Tri-Tales also still has my favorite cuts with the Gallagher Patriot Box just for you. Get one or both and see what beef is supposed to taste like for yourself. As always, you get free shipping on all first orders and an automatic 10% off. Don't wait. Order the Autumn Butcher Box or my Gallagher Patriot Box today. Go to trybeef.com slash Gallagher. Share in the legacy. trybeef.com slash Gallagher. That's trybeef.com slash Gallagher.
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And you cannot get Spanberger or any Democrat anywhere to condemn him because it's the Uniparty. It's all organized around the left and the money faucet that comes out of the dark money groups. So the same people telling Chuck Schumer to close the government are the people telling Jay Jones to stay in the race.
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In the ReliefFactor.com studios, here's Mike.
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That's my buddy Hugh Hewitt, who was very gracious last night when I took some cheap shots at our New York City mayoral town hall of the airwaves here on AM 970, The Answer in New York. And it was streamed all around the country, all around the world. Hugh just said, vote Cuomo. Vote Cuomo. You've got to vote for Andrew Cuomo. And I get it. I understand. Look, that's where I was a week or two ago. Not that I was endorsing Cuomo. But I was wavering on my support for my friend, former colleague, and the quintessential New Yorker, Curtis Lewa. Then I had a chat with Mark Davis in Dallas. And Mark reminded me about the wisdom in remembering you need to always do the right thing. You can't vote for a scoundrel because it's a political calculation that you think will block or prevent the unthinkable from happening, like a communist being elected mayor of New York. You've got to do the right thing. There's nothing that Andrew Cuomo stands for that Hugh Hewitt agrees with. Nothing. Nothing. But Hugh claims that Curtis simply can't win. It's impossible for Curtis Sliwa to win. You know who they said that about in 2016? Donald Trump. Well, look, Hugh admitted last night he predicted Hillary was going to win I reminded him about that a few times last night on that broadcast. I might have even let slip a couple of times. You are, after all, Mr. Hewitt, the author of a book called A Mormon in the White House. So when you confidently declare a political prognostication, maybe we got to look at your track record, Mr. Mormon in the White House. Maybe we've got to remember that you were the one that said that Hillary is going to win, Trump can't beat her. And he was a good sport about it. All kidding aside, it took my chat with Mark Davis, and then it made me think about a lesson I learned from my mentor many years ago as I was embarking in this crazy world. In business, as in life, you do the right thing. You've got to do the right thing. You can't sacrifice your principles and say, oh, vote for the guy that got people killed in New York's nursing homes. You can't vote for the guy that was hounded out of the office in disgrace with scandal after scandal. The guy is a scoundrel. And Hugh knows what a bad guy Andrew Cuomo is. Everybody knows his track record. Curtis Leroy right now is at 28% in recent polling. He's not leading. Trump was at about 11%, I think. You've got to do the right thing and let God sort it all out in the end. God already knows the outcome of the New York City mayor's race. He already knows how that's going to end. I think a lot about our faith and I think a lot about some of the awful things I saw in New York yesterday. Pro-Hamas demonstrators. Pro-Hamas. I watched with my own eyes. I saw. I interviewed survivors in Israel. The people of Israel often feel abandoned, often feel like they're trying to go it alone. And you know what? You can assure them that they're not alone. This month, we are partnering again with our friends at the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews. There's a banner posted at the top of my homepage at mikeonline.com where you can make a generous gift of $25 or any amount you wish to support the IFCJ. Or you can phone in your gift to our special number, 800-613-5511. 800-613-5511. $25 will help rush a food box to a Jewish person in need in Israel. If you can give $50, $100, whatever you can afford, you can help build bomb shelters for the people of Israel. And thanks to a generous fellowship supporter, for a limited time, the impact of your gift will double. Let's listen together to the great Yael Eckstein and her message about our partnership this month, our efforts to support the people of Israel through our IFCJ campaign.
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Thank you so much for this question, Mike, because indeed so many people have forgotten what happened on October 7th. But here in Israel, no one has forgotten. I'm not going to go into the details because it's too upsetting for so many people to hear. But on October 7th. Israel saw that we are in a war for survival. And that's the day that we realized that we need to protect our borders. We need to stand guard. We need to get rid of these terrorists that want to destroy us, because if not, we won't be here tomorrow.
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Thank you, Yael, and we're going to talk to Yael today on the show. MikeOnline.com, click on that banner at the top of the page, and please, please give what you can. All right, let's take some calls. And, you know, I've shared with you that every single time I say that there were hundreds of people who behaved terribly on January 6th and did a lot of damage, not just physical damage, not just broken windows, did a lot of harm to our cause, to our side. Inevitably, people get mad at me. And I'm always surprised at that because how can you dispute that? There are some things that are not disputable. You're not going to rationalize breaking windows and assaulting cops and fighting with law enforcement and breaking down barriers. And I know why people push back, because you're tired of the way the left gets away with everything. I get it. I really do. But don't be like them. You've got to acknowledge what is true. Jackson, Indianapolis. Jack, welcome to the Mike Gallagher Show. Hello. Hi there. Hi.
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Yes, I'm calling in regard, and I'm not knocking what you said as far as hundreds misbehaving and stuff. That's a given. There were things that happened that was crazy there and maybe could have been preventable. The footage that I have seen which is minimal, but a lot of the new stuff that came out that I've seen. From what I've seen, the actual crazy crazy didn't take place until those officers started shooting rubber bullets and tear gas canisters into the crowd, and then it went into an uproar. Now, if they were trying to push them people back because they felt threatened, You'd think they would shoot the tear gas canisters in front of the crowd so they all would go back. But they actually was launching them out into the crowd. It was clear that they were trying to aggravate them. and instigate things turning bad, which they did.
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Well, I guess that's one way to look at it. Every time there's a riot, and that could very accurately be described as a riot, tear gas is deployed. I've never heard a narrative that they were firing rubber bullets and tear gas canisters directly into the crowd. And I think to say, and let me finish my point. And I'm not real sure that saying that because law enforcement was trying to control a crowd with tear gas, that somehow it's the police officer's fault that people were acting violently. I don't know that. In other words, you're sort of suggesting that you think the police provoked them. And incidentally, I'll go ahead.
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I'm just actually going by footage that I actually seen that we didn't see in the beginning. Right.
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Well, I've seen I too have watched hours and hours of footage. And it is without dispute, as you said, and you agree with me, I think hundreds of people were violent. Period. There's no way around that. And so we can sit around and say, well, maybe. But look, there's also a lot of questions about people like this Ray Epps character. And everybody ought to be asking questions about Ray Epps. There are questions about people who were in the crowd seemingly egging people on and then they weren't charged and somehow they got a pass. How does that happen? How does that even, the Ray Epps story is, you want to go down that rabbit hole, you'll spend days there wondering how this guy was not charged when people were charged for far less than what he did. And there are all kinds of beliefs that this guy was a bad actor, maybe he was a government plant. Look, it was revealed last week they had a couple of hundred FBI agents embedded in the crowd. And I have always said we should and we must acknowledge the bad actors in the crowd that day. We must acknowledge the cops that were opening doors and cooperating and letting people in. Even Brian Sicknick, the poor guy that died of natural causes, had a physical condition or whatever where he died. He was shown giving directions to the people on January 6th about where to go. So two things can be true at once. And all I'm saying is don't throw the baby out with the bathwater. Don't say that, I mean, because the pushback, and I don't really want to spend a ton of time on this because we could get people all fired up. People, oh, Mike, they were all Antifa. No, they weren't. I've had people say that to me repeatedly. Every one of those people in the crowd was Antifa. I don't believe Ashley Babbitt was Antifa. None of those people were Trump supporters. That's not true. And so we can't, because of our frustration and disgust with today's Democrat Party and the left, don't sacrifice truth. Don't stick your head in the sand and pretend that up is down and, you know, wrong is right and right is wrong. 800-655-MIKE. 15 before the hour. Thanks for your call, sir. More coming up, including a visit with the ILX team from the IFCJ. And, oh, Jesse Jackson Jr. is coming back. Come on. Going to prison for corruption and theft? That's not a disqualifier if you're a Chicago politician, is it? Stick around. More of that straight ahead. Ph.D. weight loss has changed my life. And I've got a little secret for you. You know Big Pharma and semaglutide and the shots in the belly. You've seen the story recently about the study that shows that a lot of people that are getting this are going blind. You don't want to do this. You want a program to lose weight that's centered around science and nutrition. A proven roadmap that has helped over 8,000 clients lose weight and keep it off. Like me. I lost 53 pounds a few years ago and I've kept it off. I know what to eat and when. I know how to quiet any of the cravings I might get and finally release that unhealthy belly fat that I carried along for so long. Make the phone call that can change your life in the way it changed mine. It's called PhD Weight Loss. PhD Weight Loss, Dr. Ashley Lucas' program is brilliant. And how do I know? Well, 53 pounds later, here I am. 864-644-1900 is their number. Call and schedule your consultation. You can do this program from anywhere in America. Call 864-644-1900, 864-644-1900, or visit MyPhDWeightLoss.com.
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Okay, we got the audio glitch fixed, I think. We're back with Yael Eckstein who's joining us live from Israel. She's the president and CEO of the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews. Yael, again, I feel almost... ugly sharing this with you, because, again, I've spent time with you. We've broken bread together. The IFCJ means a lot to me, and right now I'm counting on every member of our audience to support the IFCJ with our fundraising efforts through October, and I'm going to tell everybody how they can help in just a moment. But I want you to see and hear what I saw yesterday in New York City. It's been covered on the local news here. This is extraordinary, the two-year anniversary of the October 7th massacre when men, women, and children were butchered by a war that Hamas began. And this is what happened yesterday in New York City in the streets of Manhattan.
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We did not act enough. We did not act enough. Repeat after me. We did not act enough. We did not act enough. If we acted enough. If we acted enough. The headline behind me would read. The headline behind me would read. has been liberated. So our work is not done. We must show up stronger than we did the first October 7th. Louder than we did the first October 7th. To make it clear that we are not going anywhere.
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Now, Yael, that wasn't in Gaza City. That was in New York City. That's down the street from where I'm seated right now. Now, I'm not going to drag you into the political side of this and wonder why that guy and that whole crowd wasn't rounded up and arrested and taken off the streets. Because, frankly, if you're threatening more bloodshed and more death and you're promising to continue the actions of Hamas on October 7th here in the United States because we've got to finish the job and slaughter, I guess, all the Jews and all the Christians, I don't understand how those people didn't get arrested. I won't ask you about that, but I will ask you to comment on hearing pro-Hamas demonstrations in New York City on the two-year anniversary of the Hamas terror attack.
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Well, Mike, if there's one thing that I've learned, it's that the enemy of Israel is also the enemy of America, that the enemies of the Jewish people are also the enemies of the Christian people. And so we need to be in this together. What evil hates is light. They hate the Judeo-Christian values that we stand for. They hate the fact that together, through my organization, the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews, we're fulfilling this biblical mandate to feed the hungry, to clothe the naked, to shelter the poor, to provide bomb shelters and different security measures to sanctify life. And we see that they're also targeting Christians across the Middle East. The fellowship is inside of Syria, helping persecuted Christians. And so I think that we're targeted together, Mike, and the answer to that darkness is to bring light together and to never stop believing that our love of life is stronger than their passion, that their drive, their desire for death and darkness.
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Well, their love of death, their love of death, their love of despair, their love of terror. Look, we know how this ends. Good triumphs over evil. And God is in control, and I just am so thankful to have an opportunity again to invite my audience, which I think is the most generous audience in the country, to step up and support the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews. Last week we started our campaign to try to rush as much supplies, even help build bomb shelters, Yael Eckstein, take a moment and explain to somebody who's thinking about going to MikeOnline.com right now and clicking on that banner at the top of the page and making a contribution. Explain where that money goes. Can you talk a little bit about your mission and what our audience is able to accomplish by contributing to the Mike Gallagher Show IFCJ October campaign?
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Well, you've already made such a difference, Mike. You and all of your followers were able to deliver meals to people in the war zone because you and your people have donated. We've placed bomb shelters by children's school bus stops because your followers have donated. We represent the silenced majority. And I remember when I went during the Iran war, as huge missiles were falling, I visited a 92-year-old woman named Zelda who lived just a block away from where there was a direct hit. All of her windows were broken. And I came to her with a food box. She's 92 years old, bedridden. She couldn't get to the store. She didn't have any food. And she said, wow, how did you know I was here? I can't believe you remembered me at 92 years old. Someone's bringing me food, cares if I live or die. And I said, this is from people in America. She said, everyone doesn't hate us. And I looked at her and I said, there are millions of Christians and Jews and good people, not just that doesn't hate you, but who understands that love conquers all. And because of that food box, she was able to survive another week. These are the people that we're helping, Mike. They're people who... appreciate you, who pray for you and who you are giving them, not just the gift of life through food, but the gift of life through a renewed hope that despite those rallies, those violent words that we just saw that are happening all across the world, there are even more people who stand for God, who stand for good. And that's the message of the fellowship that we say on your behalf.
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The fellowship hosted me to Israel. I want to come back so badly. I am just aching to return to the Holy Land. When you visit Israel, it changes your life. And, you know, Dennis Prager and I took groups of multiple occasions to Israel. And it has impacted me profoundly. And I can't wait to get back to Israel. In the meantime, today is the day. And look, I want to make sure people know. I'm going to pull the curtain back. The first few days here are off to a little bit of a slow start. But I know our audience is going to step up in a big way.
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$25, $50, $100.
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Not only are you rushing food. and supplies and medicine and life-saving, God-inspired materials to the people of Israel. You're helping to build these bomb shelters. These bomb shelters really were astounding when I first saw those, when you showed them to me, Yael. And these are where people, when the missiles start flying, when the rockets, the incoming rockets are on their way and the sirens go off, Families, children, elderly people all gather in these bomb shelters, and they are literally saving lives. And donors to the fellowship can help build more bomb shelters, right?
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incredible, Mike. As soon as we get a $25 donation, that goes to a food box to help keep someone alive in Israel. When we get the money for bomb shelters, immediately those bomb shelters are placed, and we've been able to do so much. Thank God. I believe God is blessing the good work that we're doing together, but there are still so many needs and the threats that Israel faces have in no way stopped. So anything that you can do immediately transforms into life-saving aid here in Israel.
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Well, I want to pray out loud. I want to pray publicly that today our audience's hearts will be touched. Please, and you'll make a donation to this wonderful organization. Your friendship, Yael, means the world to me. Your support, it is such a privilege to be able to play a little small part in getting so much needed materials to the people of Israel. All anybody has to do is go to mikeonline.com. There's a banner at the top of the page. You can click on that banner. Again, whatever you can afford, as Yael said, $10, $5, $25, $1,000. Perhaps this will be the day that your heart tells you to support the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews, a beautiful concept of Christians and Jews coming together to support Israel. Go to mikeonline.com. where you can make your donation. Or if you want to just phone in your donation, we have a special number set up for you, 800-613-5511, 800-613-5511. Or again, go to mikeonline.com. And Yael, may I close by being presumptuous and being obnoxious and say, come on, let's get back to Israel. Let's bring the Mike Gallagher Show back to Israel again soon.
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soon. Amen. I can't wait to host you here to show you all the new projects that you've made possible since last time you've been here.
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I can't wait. God bless. Keep fighting the good fight. Thank you, Yael. I appreciate you joining us here on the Mike Gallagher Show. Great to see and hear you. All the best. 27 past the hour. What an amazing mission that the IFCJ is on. And, again, I never mind sharing, you know, pulling back the curtain a little bit. A couple of first few days of our campaign, a little slow. Let's have a big day today. Let's really bless the fellowship with your donations. MikeOnline.com. MikeOnline.com or call 800-613-5511. Thank you, thank you, thank you for supporting. the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews. Thanks for supporting Angel Studios. On July 4th next year, the 250th anniversary of our founding, Angel Studios and The Wonder Project are going to release Young Washington. You know, I know you love this country as much as all of us do. If you want to understand the country, you've got to understand George. It's not the general or the president you think you know. This film tells the truth of Washington's faith, backbone, and resilience. It's big, honest storytelling that families can be proud of. Here's the best part. You and I get to be a part of this, an important part of this. When you join the Angel Guild at Angel Studios. You're helping bring young Washington to theaters across the country. When you're a premium Guild member, you get a pair of free tickets, behind-the-scenes updates from the director and the cast, and more. So go to angel.com slash mikeg. Let's celebrate America's 250th birthday by making Young Washington the number one movie in the land. You can help do that. Go to angel.com slash mikeg. Angel.com slash mikeg. Join the Angel Guild today.
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They are going to transfer Texas National Guard units to the state of Illinois. What's the rationale for that?
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Yeah, Chairman, as you shut down the government, you voted to shut down the government, and you're sitting here, our law enforcement officers aren't being paid. They're out there working to protect you. I wish you loved Chicago as much as you hate President Trump. And currently, the National Guard are on the way to Chicago. If you're not going to protect your citizens, President Trump,
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In the ReliefFactor.com studios, here's Mike.
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Like a boss. Boy, Pam Bondi was just large and in charge yesterday, the Attorney General. And you know that she's over the target because of the way the left, the way the Trump haters freaked out over the way she acted. pushed back against the Democrat senators. Here's a little montage, just clip number one. It's courtesy of our friends over at Grabian. Put together a little bit of a snippet of what it sounded like and what it looked like when Pam Bondi was testifying yesterday before the U.S. Senate.
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You would have been fired because you were censured by Congress for lying.
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We can stipulate to you can stipulate to all your personal attacks on the Democratic members of the committee.
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Personal attacks. You've been attacking my FBI director. You've been attacking my office.
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You've been. But we're interested in borders. All we're interested in is the answer to these oversight questions. So you were asked. You were asked by my colleague. You were asked by my colleague.
SPEAKER 14 :
Attacking good people. Operation Arctic Frost was an unconstitutional, undemocratic abuse of power. During Arctic Frost, the FBI also placed 92 linked Republican individuals and Republican groups, such as Charlie Kirk's Turning Point. on their list. This is the kind of conduct that shattered the American people's faith in our government. We are ending this weaponization.
SPEAKER 09 :
I have to show to get the phone records of a sitting United States senator. You would have to have cause.
SPEAKER 04 :
Can you tell me why my phone records, when I'm the chairman of the Judiciary Committee, were sought by the Jack Smith agents? Do you think that was an abuse of power?
SPEAKER 14 :
Senator, I cannot discuss whether there is or is not an ongoing investigation. Senator Blumenthal, I find it so interesting that you didn't bring any of this up during President Biden's administration when he was doing everything to protect Hunter Biden, his son. And I think you just saw what Director Radcliffe just released.
SPEAKER 02 :
You know, this is an effort to be positive.
SPEAKER 14 :
If I can finish answering the question, I'm not going to yell over you. I'm not going to get in the gutter with you. But information... Information that the Biden administration told them not to investigate Hunter Biden's involvement with Ukraine. And I'm not going to be lectured to you about integrity by someone who lied about being in the military just to be elected a senator.
SPEAKER 18 :
I think it's been confirmed.
SPEAKER 20 :
You can stop it right there. That was my favorite moment. When she tells Richard Blumenthal of Connecticut, I'm not going to be lectured to by somebody who lied about serving in the military in order to get elected senator. I will never understand any American who would pull the lever in a ballot box and in a voting booth for a man who was caught by the New York Times lying about serving in Vietnam. And he's going to lecture her? Adam Schiff is going to lecture Pam Bondi? Now, how upset was the left? over Pam Bondi's testimony yesterday? Check out Nicole Wallace, clip two. Here's Nicole Wallace melting down over on MSNBC.
SPEAKER 05 :
What Attorney General Pam Bondi said before the members of the Senate Judiciary Committee this afternoon may very well go down as one of the most brazen. most shameless, most verifiably false statements ever uttered in that setting. Quote, the two-tiered system of justice is over. In fact, if Bondi's on-the-record testimony today served to prove anything out in public, anything at all, it is that a two-tiered system of justice has very much been operationalized, is the new reality in the United States of America right now.
SPEAKER 20 :
So here's the MSNBC reality. Nicole Wallace believes that Pam Bondi pushing back against Democrats like Shifty Schiff and stolen Valor Blumenthal, that's brazen and shameless. Not the FBI's Arctic Frost. Not an operation that apparently spied on and secured phone records for Republicans in Congress. Representative Mike Kelly, Senator Lindsey Graham, Senator Bill Hagerty, Senator Josh Hawley, Dan Sullivan, Tommy Tuberville, Ron Johnson, Cynthia Loomis, Marsha Blackburn. FBI records request that was approved by a grand jury. Yeah, that part isn't shameless or brazen to Nicole Wallace. She doesn't mind Republican senators being spied on by Jack Smith and the FBI. And look, you could see and hear Lindsey Graham. He is livid. He is livid. These senators, they may have kicked the wrong bear this time. Check out Senator Loomis, the Republican from Wyoming, cut five. Here is... Her being asked about Trump calling Jack Smith, who headed up this Arctic frost, a sleazebag.
SPEAKER 06 :
President Trump putting on his true social on this. Deranged Jack Smith got caught with his hand in the cookie jar. A real sleazebag, he wrote on true social. Not mincing words. What say you?
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, I would say President Trump is spot on. This was an effort by the Biden administration to violate the constitutional rights of United States senators. This is blatantly unlawful. There's a specific law often referred to as Section 1984 that's used for violations of civil rights when they're conducted by the government. My civil rights were violated, as were the civil rights of other U.S. senators. This has to be investigated. I have in front of me the very memo that we found out about yesterday. And the names of the people who approved... The surveillance of our senators are blocked out. I want to know who approved this. I want to know if Merrick Garland was involved, if Christopher Wray was involved. I want to know if the White House was involved. This is unconscionable. This is a violation of law. This is a violation of senators' constitutional rights. It must be addressed.
SPEAKER 20 :
Hey, winter is coming, to quote the popular TV series, for Jack Smith and for others. who have some explaining to do. And you know, the other thing I want to share with you, here's a headline according to Axios. You know the WIC program? It's called the Special Supplemental Nutrition Program for Women, Infants, and Children. It serves about 6 million low-income mothers and young children. Now, the Democrats and their cruelty in advocating for a government shutdown, they're so cruel in their continuous votes to shut down the government, they forced the WIC program to run out. That's what your Democrats are doing. So what did the White House do? They found a solution. This program, which was expected to run out of money and shut down by the Democrats, has been saved. Trump's administration, according to Axios, is going to redirect funds from revenues from tariffs to keep WIC running. Yeah, that's how cruel the Trump administration is. The Trump administration is trying to put out all the fires that the Democrats are lighting. And right now, thanks to President Trump and his administration, the special supplemental nutrition program for women, infants, and children, the WIC program, will be saved with revenue from Trump's tariffs. How do you like that, huh?

Join Angie Austin as she explores the moving journey of author Jackie Calloway. From tumultuous times filled with divorce and despair to a miraculous reconciliation, Jackie shares her profound testimony of love, faith, and transformation. This episode delves into her story of remarriage, where she learned to invite God into the heart of their relationship. Discover the secrets to a thriving marriage centered around divine love and forgiveness, and how these principles can guide and heal others.
SPEAKER 01 :
Welcome to The Good News with Angie Austin. Now, with The Good News, here's Angie.
SPEAKER 04 :
Hey there, friend. Angie Austin with the good news. The good news is Jackie Calloway is back and joining us. I went on vacation and I missed her for a couple of weeks. Did a little fall break with the kids. We've talked about her book, Suicide, Don't Do It, which was, wow, such a testimony when she was a teenager and she was pregnant and how she considered taking her life and the miracle that God performed in her life. And then also... about her marriage, the divorce, and then getting back together with her husband, getting remarried and counseling couples together. And that book, Love That Would Not Let Me Go, Jackie Calloway. And then she's working on a new book, Till Death Do Us Part. Welcome back, Jackie.
SPEAKER 05 :
Thank you, Angie. Good to be back.
SPEAKER 04 :
You know, I love it that one of your callings is to, you know, you want to deliver the message of older women working with counseling, guiding younger women. And I can see that you have that gift. So let's talk about that. But first, let's start with your new book. Tell us a little bit about this new book that you're working on, Till Death Do Us Part.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, as you know, my husband and I were married for 28 years. divorced for seven years because of adultery and several other things. But in 1996, God miraculously reconciled us first to himself and then to one another. And then we had 24 more years of a wonderful marriage. And I always tell people that God's reconciliation looks a whole lot different than just plain reconciliation. He always does exceeding abundantly above all that we can ask or think according to the power that works in us.
SPEAKER 04 :
I just that, Jackie, I just first of all, 28 years marriage. It was not good. Then divorced. So that's 35 years of that chunk and then remarried almost as long as you're married the first time, 24. And that it was glorious and such a different marriage. And as you put it, the marriage that God led was so different than the first marriage. You said it was a new man that he really was transformed. I just I love your testimony. It's so inspiring to me.
SPEAKER 05 :
And it's exciting for me, too, because it was something that I never dreamed could happen the way it did. But God did reconcile us, and he's asked me to share in this new book, Till Death Do Us Part, that he is still in the marriage business. And we learned how to do marriage God's way. And that was what He really wanted when He reconciled us, for us to be an example of marriage His way, the way He intended our marriage to be from the beginning. And we experienced so many miraculous situations He supplied all of our need according to His riches and glory by Christ Jesus. And He loved us individually and collectively through that 24 years of marriage. And I just want to share with women and men, but especially the ladies, To take advantage of the love that you have in your marriage and to make God certainly not just the center of the relationship, but to be able to saturate your relationship with the love of God and His instructions for your marriage. share with younger women some of the things that I have learned in this, well, in both marriages, really, but especially in this second marriage. And, gee, I don't even really like to call it that we were remarried because it was truly, totally new from the beginning to the ending. And as you know, my husband went home to be with the Lord in December 2020. And even that, his parting, was so sweet that there were lessons learned in that also that I want to share with people, and with women in particular.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, I want to hear that for sure. I mean, I've heard some of the story, but share with us.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, first of all, in the beginning of our marriage, the second marriage, the Lord, I was still very reluctant. And the Lord had told me to trust Him with all my heart and lean not to my own understanding, but in all my ways acknowledge Him first. And he would direct my paths. So I went into this second marriage, even though we had forgiven one another and we had made the decision to bury all the old stuff, all of the lies and the unforgiveness. We buried that before we married. And never to bring it up again. And the miraculous thing is we never did bring up any of the old memories, the old hurts. And that, to me, was the first miracle.
SPEAKER 04 :
Wow.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, because I had been really hurt in that last marriage. But God saw me through the divorce. So as we walked through this new marriage, Ronnie was a totally changed and new man. And that was the second miracle for me, because at first I was waiting for the other shoe to drop. And it It never dropped. As a matter of fact, there was not a shoe. He wooed me and he loved me and he cherished me in this second marriage. And the reason was he was sold out to God.
SPEAKER 04 :
Oh, I love it.
SPEAKER 05 :
He was sold out to God. There was not a pretense. there was not any phony anything. He was sold out to God. And the Lord had told me during the divorce that he said, you asked me to speak to him face to face, just like I did Moses. And he told me, I can't speak to him face to face because you are still in his face.
SPEAKER 04 :
Whoa, Jackie.
SPEAKER 05 :
I love that. He said, stop trying to help him. Let me speak to him face to face. And I backed up. I took my hands off. I was not anymore enabling him in any way. And so through that time, the Lord was able to speak to him face to face. And Ronnie told me he did. I asked him, I said, when we were divorced, did you ever think about me? And he said, every night that I laid my head on the pillow, he said, the Lord was speaking to me about you. And I was like, wow. So anyway, the lesson I learned in that is when God does it, he does it well. Scripture says he doeth all things well. So when we have our hand in things, it can be half done. It can be totally jacked up. But when God does it, he does it thoroughly and completely. And he does it according to his will. And that's what I learned in that situation.
SPEAKER 04 :
Wow. So you had to give up control or what you thought was your control because you didn't have any control over Ronnie.
SPEAKER 05 :
I had none. I had none. And in this marriage, I was able to see what a complete job the Lord had done on him. And, uh, with his heart, I was downstairs one day, um, doing something and Ronnie was upstairs and all of a sudden I heard him say, thank you, Jesus. Praise you, Father. Hallelujah. And I was like, wow. I said, Lord, you really did him well. You really fixed him because I had never heard him break out in praise like that to the Lord.
SPEAKER 04 :
So when you talk about, you know, women, you know, I know you mentioned he golfed and that his mistresses would golf with him and that you were never interested and you felt in your heart like you hadn't shown interest in something that brought him joy, but you were irritated because you were working and sometimes he wasn't employed. And so you saw it was kind of like a thorn in your side, this golf. And and that maybe you should have given him more of like the time of day when it came to, or his golf the time of day, so that he'd feel appreciated or admired or respected.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, the Lord actually told me that I said to the Lord, what about all those women? And he said they played with him. And I said, okay. See, I was never a playmate. And I would suggest to wives that you play with your husbands. What is it that they enjoy? And whether you enjoy it or not, at least go with him. So in the second marriage, Ronnie bought me some golf clubs. And I learned the game of golf. and i would go with him sometimes i still didn't i still wasn't into it like he was because if the sun was up ronnie was on the golf course so i still though learned the game of golf and i helped him with his with his stance i would tell him um You're not holding your head down. Your weight is not even. I would go with him and just check out his stats and all that. He appreciated that so much. He loved that. So I would say to you ladies, find out what your husband's game is.
SPEAKER 04 :
All right. Yeah, I'm thinking about that. Let's take a break because I hate it when you and I run out of time. So we're just going to take more time today. So hang on. We'll be right back with the good news with Jackie Calloway.
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SPEAKER 04 :
Hey, it's the good news with Angie Austin, Jackie Calloway and I continuing our conversation. She is talking about, you know, the divorce. Well, first of all, we'll just recap. Love That Would Not Let Me Go. That's the book that Jackie and I have talked about a lot. She's working on a new one now, Till Death Do Us Part. She and Ronnie were married 28 years and then they were divorced for seven and then remarried for 24 years. fantastic, fabulous, amazing years. In that marriage, the Lord was right front and center. And you said that golf was something he loved in your first marriage. You just saw it as a thorn maybe in your side that took him away from you and work and the girls. And then you're you're saying that when you were remarried, the Lord made you realize that was important to him and you should play with him. And so we should figure out what is our husband's game? What brings our husband's joy? What should we be doing with them that they might consider to be fun? So continue with that thought and I'll tell you something we've been doing lately.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yes, it's very important that you show your spouse that you are just as interested in what he is interested in And that even if you don't go all in with it, and especially if it's something wholesome, I'm not saying get involved with something that is off the rails.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right. We don't want to be out gambling or at the horse track with them or, you know, poker.
SPEAKER 05 :
Exactly.
SPEAKER 04 :
Off the rails. I love it, Jackie. I'm not going off the rails, girl. Don't worry.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yes, don't. But to... Almost study your husband and see what excites him and what he enjoys and get involved in that. And be that lap that he can lay his head on. You remember Delilah and Samson and Delilah. He laid his head on her lap. Be that lap that your husband can feel safe enough to lay his head on. And the other thing that I would say to you ladies, cherish your husbands. Look at them and see. Don't always pick out the fault, what they're doing wrong, what they're saying wrong. But look at what they're doing right. Look at the qualities that are in your husbands that God has placed there that you can appreciate and bring to their attention. I used to tell Ronnie in the second marriage, I appreciate that you're such a good provider. You look and see what I need. and you supply it for me and I appreciate that. And the other thing that Ronnie would do when I would go to the grocery store, I would come back and I would bring in one bag and then he would get up and go out and get the rest of the groceries and bring them in. He never wanted me to lift too much or Carry a heavy load. And I appreciated that about him. But see what your husband does that you can appreciate and that you can thank him for and that you can praise him for.
SPEAKER 04 :
You know, yesterday he did so much. Well, he got the kids working, too. They washed my car. They cleaned out the hot tub and refilled it, and it's heating up because I said it might be nice to use it for the winter. And then they washed my car. Um, he fixed the garage door, which that took a lot. He had to reinstall, like he had to do a key pad and then put in the whole device up top, you know, get up on the ladder and replace the entire, like none of the mechanisms, uh, the mechanism was broken. So we had to do that. And then they got all the leaves out of the front and backyard and bagged them to go out to the trash. Then my daughter, the little one, did like four loads of laundry, and we folded those. And then she went around the yard and picked up, you know, trash. And then my son, oh, yeah, he had my son doing all kinds, like all day. And then they had their chores at night, which are like, you know, clean the kitchen. You know, that takes like 15 minutes. My husband even wrote them all like a thank you note saying, wow, you guys really helped out today. We got so much. And he winterized the sprinkler system. And then we have a swamp cooler, which is like old school, but it works so well. But in the winter, you have to cover it because all that cold air still can get into the house and like circulate. So you have to like winterize it and cover it up. So anyway, they did all of that in one day. And so... He told me – I'm shocked that his brother is getting a divorce. We just found out that they – after about 15 years, they're getting a divorce. And I – my chin fell on the floor. Like I thought they were best friends like my husband and I are. There's just two boys in his family. And so we were really surprised. And I said – What? Why? Like they they they don't have money problems. They don't have I mean, they just I mean, they're like beautiful people and they have a beautiful home, a beautiful life. And, you know, she stays home and he has a great career and he's going to retire with a pension at like, you know, in his early 50s. And I'm like, why? And he said, well, you know how you compliment me all the time and you kind of build me up and make me feel good and you're really appreciative of the work I do and this, that, and the other, which it was great to hear that from him because I do make an effort to make sure he knows he's appreciated. And I believe he can do anything. He just finished a brick walkway in front of our house that took like five months because he had to dig so much and cut each of one of the paver brick stones. And it's like a piece of art. And it's long. It's, you know, it's like 30 feet long and wide, like four feet wide. It's just it was so much work. And I mean, some of those bricks are as big as a domino that he cut. Like, I can't even believe he did it. And he said, well, she doesn't every time he wants to do something, she says, you can't do that. Or what? What? You're not going to do that. How do you know how to do that? You don't know how to do that. And he said that she's very critical of him, whereas I am complimentary. And I thought, what a horrible reason for a marriage to not work when you've got their daughters, maybe, I don't know. They don't live here, by the way, so they don't hear my show. But she's about maybe 10. So, you know, they're getting a divorce and like, I'm like, why can't somebody swallow their pride and like, like work this out? Like, this seems like the most unnecessary divorce to me, like ever, just learn how to communicate better. But, you know, they're going through with it and they're selling their house and they're doing all that. And I'm just so surprised because to me, it seems so unnecessary. And I just feel, you know, people throw in the towel too easily. But something as simple as complimenting your husband, which I mean, gosh, think about the effort that I put into that over the last 20 years of our marriage. Not much. I mean, it doesn't take much effort to tell your husband you appreciate all the things he does and how hard he works for the family. And then I compliment him in front of the kids and say, you know, if you can do a job like dad does it, then that's an A plus job. We always joke around that. Sometimes the kids will do a C effort, and I'm like, you'll never see your dad give C effort. Everything he does is A plus effort. Like when he did our tile in our bathroom, he learned to do it on YouTube. And then he didn't like that the shower, he had to pour it with concrete. It wasn't like just a plastic thing you threw in there. And he had to get the grade exactly right. And he felt at the back of the shower, the little bit of water settled and he'd have to push it into the drain. And so he broke it apart and redid the entire thing. And I'm like, no one would have even known that when we sold the house because the shower would be dry. No one would know that there's like a one inch puddle that goes the length of the shower. But he had to redo the entire thing. And that's just an example of how everything he does has to be done well. And so look at that little bit of effort I put in our marriage that makes the difference between, he thinks, his brother's marriage and his.
SPEAKER 05 :
But when it is not God's marriage, it makes a huge difference. Because one of the things I told you that God ministered to us in the second marriage, individually and collectively. And if you... Both don't have a relationship with Jesus Christ. It makes all the difference in the world. And when things would get... We really never argued in this second marriage.
SPEAKER 04 :
Wow.
SPEAKER 05 :
But we didn't always agree.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right.
SPEAKER 05 :
Because we're two different people.
SPEAKER 04 :
So how did that work?
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, the Lord had told me before we married... If you ever can't agree on something, come aside with me. And that's what I would do, and that's what Ronnie would do. I would be like, oh, Lord, Ronnie is thinking this way, and I can't believe he's thinking that he's going to do this or that or the other. And the Lord would say to me when I would get quiet, but what is your attitude? I'd be like, but wait a minute, I'm talking about Ronnie.
SPEAKER 04 :
Oh, that's funny.
SPEAKER 05 :
And he would be like, what is your attitude, Jackie? Check yourself according to the Word of God. And I would always be able, and Ronnie would too, and sometimes I'm going back, to apologize to him for not trying to understand where he was coming from. And he would be on his way to apologize to me.
SPEAKER 04 :
Oh, wow.
SPEAKER 05 :
And it was supernatural, I'm telling you, but it was because both of us were yielded to Jesus Christ and the Word of God and making the marriage work. But you need two people.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right.
SPEAKER 05 :
You really do need to have two people.
SPEAKER 04 :
One. With the Lord holding hands. Yeah, and with the Lord in the middle. Now, when you talk about ministering to younger women, how has that, obviously that's good advice for women in terms of making their marriage happy, making sure that they do things their husband enjoys and play, have fun with them. We've been doing family movie nights. My husband's not a movie guy, but we've seen a couple of good ones. We saw that one on that Duck dynasty family and his testimony and how he'd really started off on the wrong foot in their marriage, which I think you'd really get a kick out of. I'll get the name of it because I forgot what it was called, but it's about how they had also separated and they were going to end their marriage. And They ended up becoming highly successful and had that show Duck Dynasty, which was big for many years. And it's The Blind. So we went to that. He liked it. It was a little corny, but it had a great message and his testimony of how the Lord changed his life and transformed their marriage. And boy, they've been married almost 60 years now or something. And then we've done a few dinners and we went to the theater this weekend. We went to Mamma Mia and we took the girls. And so we've been trying to do family things, which I know he gets a kick out of that because we do a lot of family sports together and stuff like that. So we've been doing that because that's kind of he doesn't do anything separate from the family. He doesn't do any sports. golf or fun or boys' nights or anything. It's work or family. That's it. And so that's what I've been doing with him. And since the kids are all in high school, we know we don't have a ton of things left. And he even went to Disney with us, which isn't really his thing, but we had a blast. We went on fall break and we did Universal Studios, like the Haunted Nights, which the kids all love. And then I went with my nephew as well, who lives out in California. And then we did Disney, which, you know, he kind of gave in and did it with us, even though it's, you know, highway robbery. But he had a blast. He didn't complain the whole time about lines and how expensive it is. You know, he had fun. So, you know, we're trying to do more things together as a family because we know that that's limited. And, you know, maybe eventually we'll take, you know, a vacation without the kids. But at this point, we're just kind of trying to squeeze out all of the the fun out of what we have left for, you know, the family time since one of the kids is graduating this year, one next year, and then one in three years. So we've just got, you know, a bit of time left. I want to make sure people can find you, Jackie. What's the best way for people to find Jackie Calloway?
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, Healing from Crisis is my website. And you can also, the ministry phone number is is 303-307-0707. That's the office phone number. And we also did premarital counseling.
SPEAKER 04 :
Oh, I love that. Well, let's talk about that more next week because we're out of time. We used up the entire show today, just you and me, and I hope you all enjoyed it. Thanks for listening to The Good News. I'm Jackie Calloway. Thanks, Jackie.
SPEAKER 01 :
Thank you. Bye-bye. Thank you for listening to The Good News with Angie Austin on AM670 KLTT.

In this episode, we dive into some of the most absurd and intriguing headlines from across the nation, starting with the infamous Florida Man. Discover stories that sound almost too wild to be real, as we unravel incidents involving canes, thermoses, and more. We also delve into the controversies surrounding Zach Bryan and his compelling yet contentious song lyrics, sparking debate on social media.
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It's his life mission to make bad decisions. It's time for Florida Man.
SPEAKER 03 :
So we're now at that point in the show where I come across a Florida man headline, and I'm like, oh, what? Before I do that one, let me just put this right here for you, Cain. Let me just set that right here. This came from our Florida woman, Amber, who finds the weirdest stuff to send. God love her. Oh. You just, yeah, yeah. A Florida man accused of using a cane to beat another driver in a road rage incident. Good man. His cane. So he's an elderly individual, you know. Florida man accused of beating another driver with his cane. 69-year-old. He got mad because the driver cut him off, so he armed himself with a cane and decided to go to beat downtown. With his cane. I mean, you don't even need anything else at this point. According to the charging affidavit, Thomas Wolfe is charged with aggravated battery with a deadly weapon because the cane can be used as a deadly weapon. But he said the other driver cut him off. So why would you get out? Just stop getting out of your car and doing stuff. Stop fighting other people. I mean, yes, no one else can drive but you. I get it. I feel that way every time I get behind my steering wheel. I'm like, oh, my gosh, nobody can drive in Texas. Oh, my gosh. I get it. But that doesn't mean that you should get out and beat someone with your cane. You're going to get charged. Also, you could end up like this guy. There's just literally no way to do this.
SPEAKER 04 :
Wait, you're choosing this one?
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, I am, because it's ridiculous. Over all the other ones that are in there, you're choosing this one. No, I know, but this one is insane, and I feel like... That's true. So here's the thing. I feel like when people from Florida send me these stories, if I don't read them, then they send me worse ones. They just keep amping it up. So just let me... A Florida man with a thermos inserted in his body was caught sneaking it into Polk County Jail. This is from Polk County Sheriff Grady Judd. Man tried to smuggle a thermos into the jail in his prison wallet. Walter Frymere. That man is 51. A deputy they judge said a deputy likely saved his life and arrested him. And when he arrested him because he had to take him to the hospital where a specialist had to remove the thermos. He said that the ordeal began with a complaint about a man naked at the park. And the guy said, well, I'm not naked. You know, I got socks on. Well, no, that's that's not. Sir, that's not true. But they what he said was the sheriff in his office. When talking to the press about it, he said, yeah, he put it up the exit ramp. You know what I mean? And then gave a knowing look. That's how reporters described it. Oh, my gosh. I don't I don't have any words. OK, there you go. Don't send me any bad ones, guys. Don't send me any horrible ones, because then we just it's a horrible thing. Let's see. A Florida man strapped a deputy stolen ATV to his car roof. That's impressive, actually. Yeah, that's like, you know what, that's some hillbilly expertise right there. As we move, our partners that will bring you the program, it's Kel-Tec, the KS7 Gen 2 shotgun. With Kel-Tec, this is one of the many shotguns that they have over at Kel-Tec, and the KS7 is built for... Compact spaces and maneuverability. It's a good idea for home defense or outback or anywhere in between. And the design with the KS7, there's some upgrades. You have five slot Picatinny style accessory rails. You can add grips, lights, whatever, keep it flush. It's a smoother pump action for faster, cleaner cycling. Ultra lightweight at just under seven pounds unloaded. Compact bullpup design, seven plus one capacity. And you can get the Defender package, and there's a bunch of stuff that comes with that, including a Vortex. You've got extended butt pad, all kinds of stuff. MSRP is only $639, so it's completely affordable and accessible. It's from Kel-Tec, K-E-L-T-E-C, weapons.com, made in Florida. Kel-Tec weapons.com. It's the KS7 Gen 2. Tell them Dana sent you.
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Democrats are trying to really drive that drive that point. And that gets into the whole Zach Bryan stuff and all of that. That guy is just a sentient turd. He's really trying to backpedal with a lot of this stuff. So if you were unaware, he decided to make a video. Well, he wrote a song rather. He wrote a song and he was slamming. uh, immigrations and custom enforcement in his song. It's a very anti ice song. Zach, I don't know. I can't tell you what does Zach Bryan sing? I don't like pop country because it's soulless. So I don't listen to it. I like good music and I'll listen to any type of music, but, um, it has to be good. So Kane, do you know what songs Zach Bryan sings?
SPEAKER 04 :
I don't.
SPEAKER 03 :
Hank wouldn't have done it that way.
SPEAKER 04 :
No, you're right about that.
SPEAKER 03 :
He wouldn't have done it that way.
SPEAKER 04 :
He's also trying to backpedal a little bit from the original stuff.
SPEAKER 03 :
Steve, do you know anything that Zach Bryan has sung?
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, he's more folky than country, I guess. He's sort of like a singer, guitar, songwriter thing.
SPEAKER 03 :
Oh, my gosh. He's like a Joni Mitchell, but with balls. Oh, gross. Or that's questionable. Ew. I just, I don't like his face. Anyway, so he came out with, he pulled a Dixie Chicks. Wait, they're not even called that anymore, are they? Are they called Dixie Chicks? Oh, that's right. They're just called, oh, I can't say it. The Chicks, I think, right? So, Zach Bryan, he decides to Dixie Chick Bud Light his career with the song that he has. Now, yes, he did do the song Try That in a Small Town. Okay, so I just read that. I don't know. That's whatever. So, oh, wait, that was Jason Aldean that did that, right? I don't even know. I don't even know pop country. But the thing is, is that this guy decided he didn't just write a song where he was being critical of ice or something. He wrote this whole thing where he's like, the red, white and blue is fading and ice is going to come and bust down your door and all this stuff. And the lyrics, I mean, let me just here's the lyrics from this Shakespearean lyricist came, quote, I heard the cops came. Cocky mother blankers, ain't they? Ice gonna bust down your door. Try to build a house, no one builds no more. But I got a telephone, croons Zach Bryan. Kids are all scared and all alone. Hmm. These are really bad. I just got shaken baby syndrome from reading that. Hmm. Gives me mental scoliosis, Cain. It's horrible.
SPEAKER 04 :
I did reach out to his camp this morning.
SPEAKER 03 :
They're never going to come on the show.
SPEAKER 04 :
I referenced this Yahoo article that came out a couple hours ago. And now he's saying he's wanting to clarify the misconstrued lyrics in that song. So we wanted to give them an opportunity to do it.
SPEAKER 03 :
And let me guess, they just jumped at the chance, didn't they?
SPEAKER 04 :
I haven't heard back yet.
SPEAKER 03 :
So now he's like all upset because he's got a lot of backlash to his song. Who could have seen that coming? I mean, when you troll and you're surprised that there's a response to the trolling, I don't understand some of these people. So the... I'm not going to play it, but... I don't know what he's saying. The fading of the red, white and blue. And someone said he's backpedaling faster than a Russian circus bear. And I feel like that that's a great description. So he put something up on his Instagram story where he said he's so tough. He's like, please blink and read this. And it's a song about how much I love this country and everybody in it. And so he's like, I'm not going to read this whole thing. It's just so long. He goes, I wrote this song months ago. I posted this song three months ago as a snippet. This shows you how divisive a narrative can be when shoved down our throats through social media. This song is about how much, Cain, I love this country and everyone in it and everything. And when you hear, Cain, the rest of the song, you will understand the full context that hits on both sides of the aisle. Everyone now is using this as a weapon, proving how devastatingly divided we are. Well, hold up. Hold up, Slick. Hold up, Slick. We're literally quoting your words. There's no spinning of it. There's no trying to link and log up a narrative. We're just quoting your words, slick. You had the balls to put it in a song and now you're going to go cower. Well, that's not what I meant. What did you mean by calling ice mother blinkers? Like, how else can that be interpreted? I'm waiting. Oh, great Shakespeare of our time. Please, please reveal to the great unwashed masses the genius behind your lyricism, because clearly we're too stupid to get it. Please, oh, great Zach Bryan, please explain this to us. And then he's like, he goes, well, I serve this country. I don't care. That's great that you did. I don't know anything about him. That doesn't give you a pass to be a jackass. End of. And then he goes, I wasn't speaking as a politician. I don't care. You said what you said, dude. You could sit here and write however many graphs and dance all you want to. Oh, and then now he's the victim. Here's this graph. Quote, the last few months of my life, I have been scrutinized by more people than I ever thought possible. Write a song about it. I feel like I've tried my hardest in so many ways, he writes. Oh, my gosh. And then he's like, I've been, oh, this is so cheesy, been falling off a cliff while trying to grow wangs at the same time. Oh, poor Zach Bryan.
SPEAKER 04 :
From southern Georgia? Where's he from?
SPEAKER 03 :
He's from all over. Is he? Mm-hmm. Yeah. And so he, nobody believed that. Nobody believes that. Nobody believes that. I mean, yeah. And he's apparently not a nice dude. All these people are coming out with stories. But just to stick to this. He wrote this. He wrote this song. He wrote the lyrics. Then he added music to it. Then he recorded it. Then he made a video of him performing it. And then he posted it online. And he's like, now he goes, oh, no, no, that's not what I said. Please, dear sweet summer child, what did you mean? Ice going to bust down your door? Cocky mother blinkers. The fading of the red, white, and blue. Caned. Shall we deep dive grad level style on this? I mean, what else is there to be assumed? Oh, my gosh. He's just a coward. He's a chicken. That's what he is. Thank you. Welcome. That's a good chicken, by the way. Long John Silver's what? So he's he's it's his apology was one of those. I'm sorry you're offended. You just wrote it's the problem is, is that he wrote this. And I don't care if somebody wants to have ignorant, uneducated views, but have the balls to back them when you get called out on it. Right. I guess it's like him saying, no, the the the earth, the sun revolves around the earth. And then when people go, wait a minute, dude, that's not even correct. I didn't say that. Oh my gosh, I'm the victim. I'm falling off a cliff and I ain't time to grow wings. I mean, that's his response right now. Just go, yeah, I said it. What? That's all you got to do. What's good? He's such a, just a coward, just an absolute coward. And oh, don't forget, didn't he pull this up? He also went after people for insulting the transgenders, Kane. He was all upset. He didn't like people insulting them transgenders. And he like went and then the same thing happened. He says something ignorant and then he tries to walk it back because as soon as the fire gets a little hot, he just, oh, he can't handle it. So I don't care if people have, they wouldn't, I'm never going to listen to his music. So it's never going to personally offend me because I just don't, I don't like to, you know, if I'm going to hurt my brain cells, I'm going to do it with liquor. I'm not going to do it with crappy pop country. You know what I'm saying? So he's, I mean, he's, he's just got a history of being a jack wagon. And I mean, I just think he's a coward. And I don't know. I'm just not. I'm not a fan. I'm not a fan. Lorraine said he did a cover of Tracy Chapman's Fast Car. And oh, my gosh, he got lots of praise because he didn't change the lyrics about that said, check out girl. We're talking about the singer. Oh, my gosh. So stupid. That's such the bar is so low, man. It's so low. All Family Pharmacy is a family-owned business dedicated to helping you get the medications that you need when you need them the most. With over 200 essential medications, including antibiotics, antivirals, ivermectin, emergency kits, and so much more, they have you covered for everything from daily prescriptions to even biohacking support. Right now, they've lowered prices on ivermectin and minbendazole by up to 25%, starting at just $2 a capsule. Plus, save an extra 10% using code GENERAL. Dana10. Each order includes a doctor's prescription, so there's no hassle or middleman. And as flu season approaches, now's the time to stock your medicine cabinet with essentials like Tamiflu, antibiotics, and vitamins to help keep you and your family healthy. And beyond basics, All Family Pharmacy offers biohacking products like NAD+, Methylene Blue, all kinds of stuff to boost energy, focus, immunity, the whole nine yards. Visit allfamilypharmacy.com slash Dana and use code Dana10 to save 10% today. Don't wait, be ready for flu season with All Family Pharmacy. That's allfamilypharmacy.com slash Dana and use code Dana10.
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And now all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
SPEAKER 03 :
I don't believe this story. So it's a story that says America has become one of the world's least welcoming countries for tourists. And it's the end. Sorry, it's the telegraph, which is a left leaning sewer. Yeah. And they said it's Donald Trump's anti-tourism measures. Well, what do you mean anti-tourism measures? Because illegal immigration isn't the same thing as tourism. Do we really have to have a discussion over this? Oh, my gosh. Let's see here. Apparently, your brains have evolved to socialize, but they max out at 150 friends. Mine max out over anything that I can count on. Everybody has like circles, layers of circles, right? You have like one, your main circle and then outside and then outside and outside. And I think that's fine and important to have. But they said that the size of your social networks is limited even in the age of social media and that brains absolutely max out at 150. That makes sense, right? I think that makes sense. Let's see here. Oh, Tropical Storm Jerry could form. And it could hit the Leeward Islands late this week. Why Jerry? Like, what a name, Jerry. Jerry, I don't know why I find that so funny. So be careful. A man was arrested for trying to pull over cars with flashing blue lights. Pierce County deputies pulled this. They got this guy. This was in Washington. They arrested a man for impersonation of a police officer. He was driving around using the blue lights. And the deputy saw him. They got in trouble once. And he was warned he could be arrested for impersonation. And then hours later, the same deputy saw this guy. You know, the same driver using the blue lights. And he was immediately arrested. So, he got warned. He got warned. You know, you can't say he wasn't warned. Let's see. The Rainbow Crosswalk in Miami was torn off by the Florida Department of Transportation. Is this the crosswalk where they got... They tried to go after the kids riding the scooters because they said that the kids had...
SPEAKER 04 :
No, I think this is a different crosswalk. This one was actually built with bricks, colored bricks.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay, okay.
SPEAKER 04 :
And they're tearing that up.
SPEAKER 03 :
So the Florida Department, DOT, they decided they were demolishing and repainting a rainbow crosswalk. The state said they're going to stop making crosswalks into political statements. It's supposed to be about pedestrian safety. And State Senator Carlos Smith bravely fought back. He tried to grab some sidewalk chalk and fill the colors back in. Yeah, I mean, it legit is about supposed to be about safety. Now, remember that you you you can burn an American flag, but they arrest it with Spokane, Washington. The they had electric scooters and they left skid marks on a pride mural and they they were arrested in Spokane, Washington. You could burn a flag, but you can't drive a scooter over a pride mural. It's just asinine. Absolutely asinine. So I'm and it's actually a very it was very ugly. I saw the bricks. It was a very ugly crosswalk. And if it doesn't look like a crosswalk, then wouldn't that be confusing for people who don't know if they can cross there or not? I mean, it just seems like a fair question to ask. We've got a lot more on the way. Stick with us. This is a wild video.
SPEAKER 02 :
So, and the question is, what do you say to the 40% of voters who voted for Trump? Oh, I'm happy to say that. It's the do you need them to win part that I don't understand. I'm happy to answer the question as you have it written and I'll answer it.
SPEAKER 05 :
And we've also asked the other candidates, do you think you need any of those 40% of California voters to win? And you're saying no, you don't.
SPEAKER 02 :
No, I'm saying I'm going to try to win every vote I can. And what I'm saying to you is that... Well, to those voters. Okay, so you... I don't want to keep doing this. I'm going to call it. Thank you. You're not going to do the interview with us? Nope, not like this, I'm not. Not with seven follow-ups to every single question you ask.
SPEAKER 05 :
Every other candidate has answered our follow-ups.
SPEAKER 02 :
I don't care. I don't care. I want to have a pleasant, positive conversation, which you ask me about every issue on this list. And if every question, you're going to make up a follow-up question, then we're never going to get there. And we're just going to circle around. I am an investigative reporter. I have never had to do this before, ever.
SPEAKER 05 :
You've never had to have a conversation with a reporter?
SPEAKER 02 :
To end an interview. Okay, but every other candidate has done this. What part of, I'm me, I'm running for governor because I'm a leader, so I am going to make... So you're not going to answer questions from reporters?
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay, why don't we go through, I will continue to ask follow-up questions because that's my job as a journalist, but I will go through and ask these, and if you don't want to answer, you don't want to answer.
SPEAKER 02 :
So nearly every legislative... I don't want to have an unhappy experience with you. And I don't want this all on camera.
SPEAKER 05 :
I don't want to have an unhappy experience with you either. I would love to continue to ask these questions so that we can show our viewers what every candidate feels about every one of these issues that they care about. And redistricting is a massive issue.
SPEAKER 03 :
We're going to do an entire story just... It looks kind of bad. It looks bad. Now she's, if you know, she's running for governor in California. This Katie Porter lady. And that's who that's who's in this video is Katie Porter talking to this reporter who is just trying to get her to answer a question. And Katie Porter has no interest in answering this question. She has no interest in talking about it. And I think it was a pretty legitimate question. It wasn't like a gotcha. You know, it wasn't like a gotcha kind of thing. It was a very legitimate question, I thought, that she asked. But apparently, Katie Porter doesn't think so. She tried storming out of this CBS interview. And the... She said, I don't want all of this on camera. Well, you should have probably thought that before. Did you know? Now, hold up. I'm going to pull this story up. I don't know if you guys heard this story before. So this is a New York Post piece. Because it kind of shows that she sort of has a hot temper. She apparently was very abusive towards her husband, her ex-husband. She would throw things at him all the time. She poured scalding hot mashed potatoes on his head during a fight. She was routinely, he wrote, and this was, he filed for divorce from her. This was in 2013. He got a, he requested a restraining order. She apparently was so nuts. He requested a restraining order and she wouldn't allow him to have a cell phone. She would claw her arm. She does seem nuts. I gotta be honest with you. She seems like she is just crazy, right? You know, you know the type. She seems nuts. She apparently was taking issues with how he was making mashed potatoes for dinner at one point. And she screamed at him, can't you read the blanking instructions? And then she raised a, quote, ceramic bowl of hot potatoes and dumped it on my head, burning my scalp. They went to court. I mean, he... If you have a restraining order on you, you're like a temporary prohibited possessor. So that's very interesting. She, though, in her first congressional campaign, she portrayed herself as a victim of domestic violence. I think she's talking about her husband, not her, maybe. Wow. So she seems like... You know, I just only in California can you abuse your husband and pour hot food on his head, scalding his scalp and still be like in the running to be governor. Well, maybe in New York, too. She seems to have anger issues. She acted like a psycho. She she told the interviewer she didn't need Trump voters. And then when the reporter asked her, OK, well, what do you mean you don't need? She then started contradicting herself. I was reading the transcript just in case, you know, I thought I heard something incorrect. And the reporter was was saying, what do you say to the 40 percent of voters who supported Trump? And she was like, oh, well, I don't need them to win. And then she's asked, well, you said that you don't need them to win. And she was like, no, I'm saying that I'm going to try to win every vote. That's what I'm saying to you. And the reporter's like, you know what this reminds me of? It reminds me of, Cain, that interview where that girl was interviewing that musician, Sookie. And she was like, what do you mean? I'm a musician. Like, she thought she was saying a magician. Oh, my gosh. Girl, I don't think that's ghetto. I don't think.
SPEAKER 04 :
Like a new magic or something?
SPEAKER 03 :
Oh, my gosh. I can't even... So she just seemed completely. She seemed to completely came. How do you say nuts? Yeah. Yeah. That's how you say it. She's in the running. She's like like in the lead to be the next governor. She's the leading Democrat to replace Gavin Newsom as governor of California. That's all they got. They don't have anybody else out there. All the nuts. And that's the one they pick.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah. Lateral move there.
SPEAKER 03 :
I mean, is it lateral? Well, yeah, I mean, they're all bad. I don't want to sit here and try to, like, weigh it down. She's just, she's bad. Lorraine notes that she fired a staffer who she said gave her COVID. Oh, my gosh. Is that bad as cut 11th? Oh, is it as bad as Cut 11? Probably not. Let's go ahead. Yeah, play Cut 11. So this is a flashback video of Katie Porter. Same woman. Listen.
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This allegation of groomer and pedophile, it is alleging that a person is criminal somehow and engaged in criminal acts merely because of their identity, their sexual orientation, their gender identity. So pedophilia is just an identity?
SPEAKER 03 :
So wanting to prey upon children as a sex pervert, an adult sex pervert, that's just an identity. I thought that was a criminal action. Wow. Wow. So she hates kids. Clearly. Wow. That's who's the lead Democrat for governor in California. What are you doing, California? What do you do in New York? Oh, my gosh. This is crazy. And she apparently, like all of the staffers that worked for her, hate her. Yeah, one of them, she went off on a staffer because she says the staffer gave her COVID. And she had them fired. And she was just apparently horrible to everyone. And then if you criticize her, you're a sexist or a bigot somehow. I don't even understand how that works because she's like a heavyset white woman. So I don't get that. But... Yeah, that's, that's, how do we say, nuts? That's nuts. Ken, that's nuts.
SPEAKER 04 :
It is.
SPEAKER 03 :
So, yeah. Hmm. Really wild. That's the lead Democrat in California. So, yeah, great for them. She just she has a short temper. Her and Jay Jones would be a pair, would it not? So you have her defending pedophilia and attacking her ex-husband and Jay Jones starting to shoot everyone and kill their kids. What a pair. But this is you see what I'm saying? This is this is where the left is going. This is how they are now. It's. But this is how they are. This is their new identity, for the lack of a better way to put it. This party.
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In this episode, we peel back the layers of the ongoing government shutdown, diving into the implications for citizens and the political power plays unfolding in Washington. With Speaker Mike Johnson's outspoken frustrations echoing across the halls of Congress, we dissect what it means for the Democrats and Republicans to find common ground amidst a fractious climate. As political passions run high, we examine the critical role that responsibility and dialogue must play in resolving this prolonged standoff.
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We're not asking Chuck Schumer and the Democrats to do anything different than what they've always done. We've shown you the highlight reel. Chuck Schumer gave impassioned speeches as recently as seven months ago in March of this year. He said, we have to keep the government open. It would be dangerous and harmful to the American people. He said after the vote, he went on CNN and said, I'm proud of that vote. I didn't like it, but we had to do that. He was right then. He is not right now. We're not asking the Democrats to do anything heroic. We're asking them to do their basic duty and responsibility, as Chairwoman McClain said. Keep the government open. The first responsibility, I'm sorry, I'm aggravated. The first responsibility of the government is to protect the people. And the people who are supposed to be protected are being completely cheated by Democrats in the Senate because they want to play politics. They hate Donald Trump. I mean, they have Trump derangement syndrome, but it's very real. Listen to their own comments. And they have to show a fight at any cost. When does that cost become too high? In our view, it already has. They have another chance today to reopen the government, and we'll see if they do the right thing. I pray that they do, because real people are being affected by the games here, and they're sick of it. Thanks so much.
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Well, he's not wrong. That's Mike Johnson, Speaker Johnson, who is getting ready to get really mad over the continued back and forth with the shutdown. They have no idea what's happening. And I was talking to a member of Congress. Last yesterday evening, and I had said, so what you know what happens if they do decide because they can't do anything, they can't even go like they have to. They one of them was a voting member of NATO, and they were saying that they can't even go and vote on things within the governing or the. I guess, cooperative body of NATO, which I thought was kind of, I thought was super interesting. I mean, when they, I mean, it is shut down. Of course, everybody's getting paid still. Isn't that lovely? So technically, I just think that if you're still getting paid, you're not shut down. You know what I mean? But this is, how many votes have they had? Five or six now? Do we, I don't even think we can even, I don't think we even remember. Has it been six? Okay. So it's been six votes.
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I put the government shutdown clock in Slack for you so you could see it.
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So I know a lot of people are like, I just don't know how that affects me. Well, it will affect you if Republicans aren't able to successfully hold their ground and they're not able to negotiate and they're not able to keep the lack of a better way to put it. Well, I mean, it's not like they're cutting spending at this point, because remember, this is all just about. maintaining the current levels of spending that they have, which is so frustrating about all of this. Welcome back to the program, or welcome to the program, Dana Lash, with you. And this, a lot of stuff to kind of comb through, because we've got... I got like a hand, just like a barrel full of like odds and end stuff, because we have all of the things current with the government shutdown. And we have some we have some culture stuff. Then we have the Democrat Party in California, which is absolutely falling apart. And you have a lot of these like very far left individuals, people like the Katie Porters out there who are it's crazy because they are so blatantly. Mark just openly, completely. They call it Democrat, but they're very zealous in promoting their Marxist policies. But yet when you question them on them, they lose it. They absolutely lose it. We're going to talk about some some of that because they're having they're having a problem there. And it's always these like governors, too. It's whether it's, you know, it's the weird Pritzker. And then you have some of these other governors. Then you have like Mandani, who's the mayor running for mayor. They're just notice that the new crop. They're so far left. Stop and think, when is the last time you saw a more moderate Democrat running for office? When's a new one, a new candidate? Think of a new candidate, not some of these old ones that are switching offices. When is the last time? You saw a more moderate, a new moderate Democrat run. You haven't. I mean, that's just the thing. You haven't. Because they don't exist. And that's a terrifying prospect. When you think about it, it's just incredibly disconcerting. And it is because... That kind of gives you insight into what the party is now. It's not what it's becoming. It's already become this, what the party is. Look at all of these new candidates and a handful of these races, whether you're looking up in Minnesota, Minneapolis, whether you're looking at in New York, California, all of the new ones that are coming up are so terrifyingly left. It's insane. Openly anti-Christian, openly super Marxist. That's who they have coming up. That's all of them. That's who they all are. It's very troubling. We're going to talk about some of that here as well coming up. Also, let's scroll down to this. We're going to get into the Zach Bryan stuff, that's for sure. Yesterday, October 7th, the two-year observance of Hamas's terror attack on Israel. And in New York City, downtown on Avenue of the Americas, you had an angry crowd of Islamists that assembled, waving Hamas flags, screaming. Later on, they broke into chants, from the river to the sea, and globalized the infatada. or the Intifada. They were screaming, globalizing Intifada, chanting it. And I want you to listen to this because this was yesterday, downtown Manhattan. And I'll cut to, listen to what they say.
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We did not act enough. We did not act enough. Repeat after me. We did not act enough. We did not act enough. If we acted enough. If we acted enough. The headline behind me would read. The headline behind me would read. liberated. So our work is not done. We must show up, stronger than we did the first October 7th. Louder than we did the first October 7th. Make it clear that we are not going anywhere. We will keep fighting until Palestine is free.
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So for those people who are trying to say, well, maybe it wasn't just about October 7th. Well, he just told you right there they didn't do enough on October 7th. That's what he said just now. That's what he said in that protest yesterday. That's what they were yelling. They didn't do enough on October 7th. Downtown Manhattan. We did not act enough. We weren't loud enough. And then later on, they broke out and to globalize the Intifada and then from the river to the sea. That's a call for genocide. That is an absolute call for genocide in Manhattan. And the thing is, is it's not just Manhattan anymore. I've been seeing this stuff like all over. I mean, there's more of this from this is cut three. This is more from yesterday. I mean, there were tons of people out for this. Look at this.
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They didn't think they did enough.
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I mean, I just don't have any words for that.
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So that was happening in Manhattan. There were other demonstrations where you had pro-Hamas people as well. There's a real problem with Islamism. And I've noticed a couple of things. So you had Mandani who had this horrific statement. And again, he's one of those new Democrats that we were talking about. that endorses all this stuff. His statement that he put out yesterday, it's too long to read, but it's heinous. It's so, I mean, he said he calls it an occupation and he's justifying what happened on October 7th. He's justifying it by claiming that, well, it was because of the illegal occupation. And he just said it was a war crime. What Hamas did two years ago was a war crime. And then he went after Israel and went after Netanyahu and said that the response from Israel is way worse than October 7th. And thus they are worse than Hamas because of because their response was greater than Hamas's original provocation. That sounds like what a loser says after they're getting their backsides whooped. And then he talks about, oh, Gaza, it's going through so much, blah, blah, blah. And then he said it must end. And he accused him of apartheid. He accused him of occupation. He doesn't even know what the word apartheid means. This rich nepo baby who's an absolute embarrassment. New Yorkers deserve what they get if they get this guy. So that was his. He didn't. He had three paragraphs where he just like blistered the response, blistered people who are victims. And then he used Hamas's own propaganda. He cited, he said, oh, now the death toll in Gaza far exceeds 67,000. Do you know where that number comes from? It comes from Hamas. Every bit of government in Gaza is run by Hamas because Hamas isn't just a terror group. It is the democratically elected government of Gaza. Gazans overwhelmingly support Hamas. Very few Gazans do not support Hamas. This is inarguable, indisputable fact that has been confirmed by every single news outlet on this damn planet. Every one. That's why the elections in 2021 were suspended because they were going to take over and replace any all the other factions under the authority in West Bank. So he cites figures literally from Hamas. The whole 67,000. Well, it's the Hamas Ministry of Information or it's the Gazan Ministry of Information. That's Hamas. The Gazan Health Ministry. That's Hamas. All of it is Hamas. And not at any point in this did he at all say that the hostages should have been released. He just says, oh, well, you know, it was horrible and I hope everybody's safe, blah, blah, blah. It's so sad, you know. And then he goes and tries to justify it. He doesn't say he doesn't get into, well, it was Hamas that ended up starting this, breaching this, breaking the ceasefire and going into it. This is what's happening in this country right now all over. And there's a plan underway. Here's my thinking on this, because I was down in a rabbit hole yesterday looking at some of this. I was reading this editorial from this individual in Michigan. In Dearborn, Michigan. And this guy is a Michigan preacher, Ted Barham, and he stepped up to the microphone earlier this month, and this was at the Dearborn City Council, and he wanted to oppose a street that was being named after an activist that was very vocal in their support of Hamas and Hezbollah. And the mayor, Abdullah Hammoud, who was livid, called him a racist and Islamophobe and all of that stuff. And the city council, which is predominantly Islamic, reacted horrifically to him. I mean, they were just vicious. And people there's video of people being blocked from distributing Christian materials in Dearborn, things of that nature. There is something seriously happening in this country. And I definitely think that there's foreign agents that are involved in this. I think that there is a major divide. And I think that it involves Iran and I think it involves China. And it's all about ratcheting up anti-Semitism while allowing Islamism to seep through. China is using America's geopolitical foes as a way to weaken it and divide it as it sits and waits. And nobody's really talking about China. Notice how they're all talking about Israel. Or maybe they'll talk about some of the Abraham Accords stuff. But nobody's really talking about China. There's a reason why. We're going to get into all of that more as we roll towards headlines. Our partners that help bring you the program, the folks at All Family Pharmacy, love the folks at All Family Pharmacy. I actually had to use them again. So my son who is in college ended up getting strep throat. And he was able to get medication in there, but I wanted to be able to get him something that helps his throat, right? You can get, I think it's like, I can't pronounce it properly. It's like Benzonatate or whatever. You know what it is, Cain. 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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
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All right, I saw this headline last night. You guys know Long John Silver's, right? It's Long John Silver, not Silvers. I used to say Long John Slivers. Okay, Long John Silver. So the 56-year-old chain, they have 485 restaurants. They've unveiled a new logo that removes any reference to its seafood, the pirate lore, and all of the nautical names. Now they're trying to, like, use it chicken? It's Long John Silver's chicken and seafood. So they took the fish off and now they have a chicken on. Yeah, they I have. Wow. I don't know why they did that. I mean, the logo is not all that different, but I don't know why they decided to, like, drop the pirate stuff.
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And yeah, they've always served chicken from what I understand.
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They said, well, it's because our guests tell us that their chicken is our best kept secret. I'm like, no, it's not. Who's telling you this? Is Captain D's telling you this? Did Captain D's do that to you? I feel like Captain D's just ran a psyop on Long John Silvers and convinced them. So we'll see how this goes. I don't think they're like modernizing in a woke way. But I just think this is a bad move for a brand. A D.C. teacher's aide is on leave after allegedly putting hot sauce in an autistic boy's mouth. How this woman is walking without the mother not beating her up to death is beyond me. The mother, Shanice Griggs, her son's uh she came home her son's autistic and non-verbal he's nine years old and they discovered apparently he had like um he felt hot he was overheated and he had like a reaction to it she said that the uh it was done the teacher was defending herself because his behavior was bad and he deserved it but he's also come home from school before with scratches and bruises that is not how you deal with this and that teacher needs to be fired and then I'm not going to say anything else. That's just that's abusive. You can't if you if you're not trained to handle students with difficulties, then don't take the job. America's housing shortage is apparently delaying adulthood. This is stupid. It's not a housing shortage. I cannot stand these stupid, ridiculous phrases. It's not a housing shortage. It's not because we don't have enough houses. There's tons of houses for sale. The problem is the economy is trash because it was run through by ignorant Republicans and big spending Democrats. And now they're trying to act like, well, it's because there are not enough houses. There isn't enough freedom in the market. That's the problem. We have a lot more on the way, including we'll touch on that letter about TPUSA and Charlie Kirk and all the anti-Semites going wild. Stick with us. Our partners who will bring you the program. It's the folks at Ammo Squared. Gosh, you remember how everybody was freaking out during the WooFlu for ammo. There was no ammo anywhere. And if you could find it, it was super expensive. There were empty shelves. The prices were sky high. The regret was just awful. You don't want to ever allow yourself to be in that position again. Ammo Squared is the country's ammunition reserve. It's a worry-free solution to stockpiling your ammo for the future and avoid getting caught empty-handed. They have over 70 calibers. You can set your monthly budget. Let them curate your supply automatically. Forget it. Set it. Forget it. Ship it when you need it. They have a secure climate-controlled facility so your ammo is kept fresh and safe until you decide to get it delivered. There's no minimums, no hidden fees, and you get free shipping on orders over $2.50. That's awesome. And it's great if you want to try out new calibers or if you just want to top off some of your training rounds. And you can even get alerts that'll notify you if there's something you're looking for, if you need to get a certain kind or whatever, you can be alerted. But there's over 100,000 members of this, of Ammo Squared, and they have thousands of five-star reviews. Your readiness is their mission. Visit AmmoSquared.com for a special offer and secure your ammo supply for the future. Don't get caught without ammo. Visit AmmoSquared.com. and keep yourself fully stocked and tell them that you heard it from The Dana Show.
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Taking the juggernaut that is demolishing the weaponization of law enforcement and bringing it to places like Chicago. When I was there today with Todd, we learned that the Chicago city streets have 110,000 gang members.
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That's right, you heard me right. They had 1,200 shootings this year alone, 360 homicides. When politicians choose to side with those metrics and not their citizenry, thank God we have President Trump and this Department of Justice and this FBI going in there and crushing violent crime. And President Trump sent us into these cities quietly to set the stage, to set up for the National Guard, to see the success that we saw in Washington, D.C., in Memphis. The FBI has been leading the charge in every single one of these streets. Because we know how to gather ground-level intelligence, and we know how to put handcuffs on the bad guys, and we know that we have the backing of this administration. And most importantly, the agents at the FBI know that they have the backing of the American people and their government.
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Yeah, well, that's a good point. That's Kash Patel, FBI director, who's saying that 5% of Chicago's 2.5 million residents, approximately 110,000 people, are active gang members. Now, this goes into what we've heard previously about from former police chiefs, former police superintendents, et cetera, who have said for the past decade that you have such a small percentage of the same repeat offenders that drive over 86% of the city's crime. That's insane. That it's that same and it's they arrest the same people over and over again. A big problem of this is the restorative justice. And that's this legal theory that if you coddle criminals, you can change their ways with niceness. Has that worked out, King? I think it's worked out. That would not work out for anybody else. But for repeat offenders, that's what they keep applying and they keep thinking that it works. And it's been over 10 years since this has been implemented and it's it's not working. In fact, all of these cities where you have these. Well, I think all major cities have far left prosecutors that. and judges that practice this restorative justice, which contributes to recidivism, et cetera, et cetera. It's rough. And this is what they're dealing with. Now, again, just to market this argument that Trump is sending in people to go after like restaurants and just run around and terrorize people is dishonest. And anyone who submits that as a legitimate point in this conversation should be immediately disregarded. Their character and their, they have no goodwill and their character is compromised. It's all about using, under his federal authority, protecting federal businesses, our federal structures, federal employees, you know, the courthouses, stop attacking ICE agents, stop attacking ICE facilities, particularly when local law enforcement either doesn't want to or is barred, i.e. Chicago, from actually enforcing the law themselves. It is actually a legal requirement that POTUS acts. We talked about that yesterday. A couple of other things here. Speaking to that, Jeff Bridges. I like the Big Lebowski, but this isn't helping anything. Cut seven, please. And, yeah, ice.
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Let's get ice off our streets and into our bedroom, please. This train is a good idea. This aggression will not stand. Huh? Right? Right. So let's just abide. Abide together.
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Or, you know, maybe, I don't know, follow the law. Do you remember how he got real mad in the Big Lebowski when the nihilist came in and they stole his rug? And he got real upset over that? Oh, so wait a minute. So you're telling me now that you support that. You can't get upset over people illegally entering your premises and thieving your belongings and then... No, no, no. Laws matter, don't they? Let's be consistent. Democrats are trying to really drive that point. And that gets into the whole Zach Bryan stuff and all of that. That guy is just a sentient turd. He's really trying to backpedal with a lot of this stuff. So if you... were unaware, he decided to make a video. Well, he wrote a song, rather. He wrote a song and he was slamming uh, immigrations and custom enforcement in his song. It's a very anti-ice song. Zach, I don't know. I can't tell you. What does Zach Bryan sing? I don't like pop country because it's soulless. So I don't listen to it. I like good music and I'll listen to any type of music, but, um, it has to be good. So Kane, do you know what songs Zach Bryan sings?
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I don't.
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Hank wouldn't have done it that way.
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No, you're right about that.
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He wouldn't have done it that way.
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He's also trying to backpedal a little bit from the original stuff.
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Steve, do you know anything that Zach Bryan has sung?
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Yeah, he's more folky than country, I guess. He's sort of like a singer, guitar, songwriter thing.
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Oh, my gosh. He's like a Joni Mitchell, but with balls. Oh, gross. Or that's questionable. Ew. Meh. I just, I don't like his face. Anyway, so he came out with, he pulled a Dixie Chicks. Wait, they're not even called that anymore, are they? Are they called Dixie Chicks? Oh, that's right. They're just called, oh, I can't say it. The Chicks, I think, right? So, Zach Bryan, he decides to Dixie Chick Bud Light his career with the song that he has. Now, yes, he did do the song Try That in a Small Town. Okay, so I just read that. I don't know. That's whatever. So, oh, wait, that was Jason Aldean that did that, right? I don't even know. I don't even know pop country. But the thing is, is that this guy decided he didn't just write a song where he was being critical of ice or something. He wrote this whole thing where he's like, the red, white and blue is fading and ice is going to come and bust down your door and all this stuff. And the lyrics, I mean, let me just, here's the lyrics from this Shakespearean lyricist came, quote, I heard the cops came. Cocky mother blankers, ain't they? Ice gonna bust down your door. Try to build a house, no one builds no more. But I got a telephone, croons Zach Bryan. Kids are all scared and all alone. Hmm. These are really bad. I just got shaken baby syndrome from reading that. Hmm. It gives me mental scoliosis, Cain. It's horrible.
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I did reach out to his camp this morning.
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They're never going to come on the show.
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I referenced this Yahoo article that came out a couple hours ago. And now he's saying he's wanting to clarify the misconstrued lyrics in that song. So we wanted to give them an opportunity to do it.
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And let me guess, they just jumped at the chance, didn't they?
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I haven't heard back yet. Oh.
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So now he's like all upset because he's got a lot of backlash to his song. Who could have seen that coming? I mean, when you troll and you're surprised that there's a response to the trolling, I don't understand some of these people. So the... I'm not going to play it, but... I don't know what he's saying. The fading of the red, white and blue. And someone said he's backpedaling faster than a Russian circus bear. And I feel like that that's a great description. So he put something up on his Instagram story where he said he's so tough. He's like, please, Blanken, read this. And it's a song about how much I love this country and everybody in it. And so it's like, I'm not going to read this whole thing. It's just so long. He goes, I wrote this song months ago. I posted this song three months ago as a snippet. This shows you how divisive a narrative can be when shoved down our throats through social media. This song is about how much, Cain, I love this country and everyone in it and everything. And when you hear, Cain, the rest of the song, you will understand the full context that hits on both sides of the aisle. Everyone now is using this as a weapon, proving how devastatingly divided we are. Well, hold up. Hold up, Slick. Hold up, Slick. We're literally quoting your words. There's no spinning of it. There's no trying to link and log up a narrative. We're just quoting your words, slick. You had the balls to put it in a song and now you're going to go cower. Well, that's not what I meant. What did you mean by calling ice mother blinkers? Like, how else can that be interpreted? I'm waiting. Oh, great Shakespeare of our time. Please, please reveal to the great unwashed masses the genius behind your lyricism, because clearly we're too stupid to get it. Please, oh, great Zach Bryan, please explain this to us. And then he's like, he goes, well, I serve this country. I don't care. That's great that you did. I don't know anything about him. That doesn't give you a pass to be a jackass. End of. And then he goes, I wasn't speaking as a politician. I don't care. You said what you said, dude. You could sit here and write however many graphs and dance all you want to. Oh, and then now he's the victim. Here's this graph. Quote, the last few months of my life, I have been scrutinized by more people than I ever thought possible. Write a song about it. I feel like I've tried my hardest in so many ways, he writes. Oh, my gosh. And then he's like, I've been, oh, this is so cheesy, been falling off a cliff while trying to grow wangs at the same time. Oh, poor Zach Bryan.
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From southern Georgia?
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Where's he from? He's from all over. Is he? Mm-hmm. Yeah. And so he, nobody believed that. Nobody believes that. Nobody believes that. I mean, yeah. And he's apparently not a nice dude. All these people are coming out with stories. But just to stick to this. He wrote this. He wrote this song. He wrote the lyrics. Then he added music to it. Then he recorded it. Then he made a video of him performing it. And then he posted it online. And he's like, now he goes, oh, no, no, that's not what I said. Please, dear sweet summer child, what did you mean? Ice going to bust down your door? Cocky mother blinkers. The fading of the red, white, and blue. Caned. Shall we deep dive grad level style on this? I mean, what else is there to be assumed? Oh, my gosh. He's just a coward. He's a chicken. That's what he is. Thank you. You're welcome. That's a good chicken, by the way. Long John Silver's what? So his apology was one of those, I'm sorry you're offended. The problem is that he wrote this, and I don't care if somebody wants to have ignorant, uneducated views, but have the balls to back them when you get called out on it, right? It's like him saying, no, the sun revolves around the earth. And then when people go, wait a minute, dude, that's not even correct. I didn't say that. Oh, my gosh. I'm the victim. I'm falling off a cliff and I ain't time to grow wings. I mean, that's that's his response right now. Just go. Yeah, I said it. What? That's all I got to do. What's good? He's such a just a coward, just an absolute coward. And oh, don't forget, didn't he pull this up? He also went after people for insulting the transgenders, Kane. He was all upset. He didn't like people insulting them transgenders. And he like went and then the same thing happened. He says something ignorant and then he tries to walk it back because as soon as the fire gets a little hot, he just, oh, he can't handle it. So I don't care if people have, they wouldn't, I'm never going to listen to his music. So it's never going to personally offend me because I just don't, I don't like to, you know, if I'm going to hurt my brain cells, I'm going to do it with liquor. I'm not going to do it with crappy pop country. You know what I'm saying? So he's, I mean, he's, he's just got a history of being a jack wagon. And I mean, I just think he's a coward. And I don't know. I'm just not. I'm not a fan. I'm not a fan. Lorraine said he did a cover of Tracy Chapman's Fast Car. And oh, my gosh, he got lots of praise because he didn't change the lyrics about that said, check out girl. We're talking about the singer. Oh, my gosh. So stupid. That's such the bar is so low, man. It's so low. All right, we got more on the way. I may not be done making fun of him. Just want to let you guys know. But we got a lot more. There's other people to make fun of. We also have to talk about some NatSex stuff. We got to get into, oh, Greta Thunberg. Oh, Greta Thunberg. She messed up, Kane. She posted a photo of the suffering Gazans. Oh, except it was a picture of an Israeli hostage. As we move our partners, it'll bring you the program. It is the folks who make Super Beats, the company called Human. They were founded out of the UT Health Science Center and built on real cardiovascular research around blood flow and nitric oxide. And unlike other supplement brands, Human is science-born and not just science-ish. Their products work and you can feel them working. UT athletes have used Super Beats for over a decade, calling it their cheat code for recovery and endurance. And you can use it for the same reason, to support healthy blood pressure and circulation. Today, more than 160 college and pro teams use human products And so your favorite team probably does also. And if you've seen the human logo on the Longhorns field for football season, it's more than a sponsorship. It's a signal from human and UT leading the future of cardiovascular health. So the super beats heart chews from human heart, healthy energy without the crash. And you can find them at your local Walmart and start supporting your cardiovascular health today. Get on the better road. Get on the road to better health with human.
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Like sands through the hourglass, so are the days of the United States.
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But it is emblematic of all of America's much more consequential violence. OK, it's the same reason as the why America. Kaya, please just go. Stop.
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What? He's got a shot collar on his dog. That's Hassan Piker. He's a terrorist. So it just it just you're being such a baby. He's an absolute terrorist. I'd like to put that shock collar on him. Look, if you're not man enough to properly train a dog, then you're not man enough to own a dog. I hope somebody somebody needs to take custody of that dog. He should not be allowed to own it. That's abusive. And why do you have to have your dog sit in your damn studio for hours at a time while you just basically fart into a microphone? This guy is one of the most overrated people I've ever heard in my life. He's incredibly overrated. And of course, you know, he's a Marxist and he's an Islamist. So, you know, that just the left loves him. But abusing his dog with a shock collar. And there's tons of video of him apparently doing this. Is that not heinous? Like that's sweet. He's mad and shocks the dog because the dog got up. And there's tons of videos of this. It's like all over social where he apparently, I mean, has this dog and this collar on his poor dog. And like the dog at one point, you heard the dog yell, yelp. That's just horrible. Someone said that there's a light on the collar that you can see blink when she starts moving. And that could be like the vibration, I guess that from the collar. And then, I mean, that dog is what, two years old, two years old. He wants the dog to sit on that bed for hours while he screams into a microphone for hours. I don't think the dog has water. I don't even think, I don't know if he takes it outside. I have no idea. That's just, I mean, that's horrible. Aren't there, are there spikes on the collar? I mean, that's you're torturing an animal. And I think the only reason he has that dog in the background is because he's trying to seem like a nice guy. Well, mission failed because you don't seem like a nice guy. You seem like a terrorist, Islamist, animal abuser. He's scum, scum of the earth. We got more on the way. Second hour. You don't want to miss. Stick with us. Our partners that help bring you the program. It's the folks over at Chapter. Now, as you know, Chapter, well, you know, Medicare, it's Medicare enrollment season. That's all you hear this time of year. And I feel so bad. There's so many people that just get slammed with robocalls and texts. I saw something on social where someone got like 17 calls in a row about this stuff and they were slammed with texts and they got all these mailers. Here's the thing with Medicare. Plans change every year. Thanks, Obamacare. So even if you like your current plan, doesn't mean you get to keep it. You've got to check and see what's coming for 2026. And if you don't review your options, you could lose all your coverage. So you need to call Chapter. They review every plan all across the country to ensure that you're not overpaying. And on average, they're saving people over $1,000 annually. And the advisors at Chapter, they are salaried. They don't work on commission. They advocate for you, not the insurance company. And it's not a hassle. I mean, it's definitely a heck of a lot easier than weeks of being slammed with Medicare robocalls and texts. They can chapter can get you squared away in under 20 minutes. And if your current plan still fits you best, you're all set. And if not, they'll help you switch. No gimmicks, no pressure. Just honest advice. Honest advice from experts who know Medicare inside and out. Dial pound 250 and say the words my Medicare. Medicare is important. Don't risk it. Work with chapter. You can trust them. Dial pound 250. Say the words, my Medicare.
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SPEAKER 18 :
So, and the question is, what do you say to the 40% of voters who voted for Trump?
SPEAKER 15 :
Oh, I'm happy to say that. It's the do you need them to win part that I don't understand. I'm happy to answer the question as you have it written and I'll answer it.
SPEAKER 18 :
And we've also asked the other candidates, do you think you need any of those 40% of California voters to win? And you're saying no, you don't.
SPEAKER 15 :
No, I'm saying I'm going to try to win every vote I can. And what I'm saying to you is that... Well, to those voters. Okay, so you... I don't want to keep doing this. I'm going to call it. Thank you. You're not going to do the interview with us? Nope, not like this. I'm not. Not with seven follow-ups to every single question you ask. Every other candidate has answered our follow-ups. I don't care. I don't care. I want to have a pleasant, positive conversation, which you ask me about every issue on this list. And if every question, you're going to make up a follow-up question, then we're never going to get there. And we're just going to circle around. I am an investigative reporter. I have never had to do this before, ever.
SPEAKER 18 :
You've never had to have a conversation with a reporter?
SPEAKER 15 :
To end an interview. Okay, but every other candidate has done this. What part of... I'm me. I'm running for governor because I'm a leader. So I am going to make... So you're not going to answer questions from reporters?
SPEAKER 18 :
Okay, why don't we go through... I will continue to ask follow-up questions because that's my job as a journalist, but I will go through and ask these, and if you don't want to answer, you don't want to answer.
SPEAKER 15 :
So nearly every legislative... I don't want to have an unhappy experience with you. And I don't want this all on camera.
SPEAKER 18 :
I don't want to have an unhappy experience with you either. I would love to continue to ask these questions so that we can show our viewers what every candidate feels about every one of these issues that they care about. And redistricting is a massive issue.
SPEAKER 16 :
We're going to do an entire story just... I just... The reporter sitting here trying to explain to her why it's important that... she answered like, this is what I do. This is my job. I thought though that the left loved the press and they thought the press was sacred. And is that not true? Like what, Cain, I don't understand that. They love The press is sacred. I'm like looking at some of the previous remarks that the left has made on my giant screen here. And they had previously said that, you know, Trump not if Trump criticizes a reporter, it's an attack on the press. This is a wild video.
SPEAKER 05 :
If she's claiming to be a leader and cannot handle follow up questions to any positions that she would actually hold as a leader. To me, that doesn't give me any confidence whatsoever in a her leadership or be me directing my vote towards her.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, it looks kind of bad. It looks bad. Now, she's if you know, she's running for governor in California. This Katie Porter lady. And that's who's in this video, is Katie Porter, talking to this reporter who... is just trying to get her to answer a question. And Katie Porter has no interest in answering this question. She has no interest in talking about it. And I think it was a pretty legitimate question. It wasn't like a gotcha. You know, it wasn't like a gotcha kind of thing. It was a very legitimate question, I thought, that she asked. But apparently, Katie Porter doesn't think so. She tried storming out of this CBS interview. And the... She said, I don't want all of this on camera. Well, you should have probably thought that before. Did you know? Now, hold up. I'm going to pull this story up. I don't know if you guys heard this story before. So this is a New York Post piece. Because it kind of shows that she sort of has a hot temper. She apparently was very abusive towards her husband, her ex-husband. She would throw things at him all the time. She poured scalding hot mashed potatoes on his head during a fight. She was routinely he wrote and this was he filed for divorce from her. This was in 2013. He got a request. He requested a restraining order. She apparently was so nuts. He requested a restraining order and she wouldn't allow him to have a cell phone. She would claw her arm. She does seem nuts. I got to be honest with you. She seems like she is just crazy, right? You know, you know the type she seems nuts. She apparently was taking issues with how he was making mashed potatoes for dinner at one point. And she screamed at him, can't you read the blanking instructions? And then she raised a, quote, ceramic bowl of hot potatoes and dumped it on my head, burning my scalp. They went to court. I mean, he... He if you could if you have a restraining order on you, you're like a temporary prohibitive possessor. So that's very interesting. She, though, in her first congressional campaign, she portrayed herself as a victim of domestic violence. I think she's talking about her husband, not her, maybe. Wow. She says she seems like. You know, I just only in California can you abuse your husband and pour hot food on his head, scalding his scalp and still be like in the running to be governor. Well, maybe in New York, too. She seems to have anger issues. She acted like a psycho. She she told the interviewer she didn't need Trump voters. And then when the reporter asked her, OK, well, what do you mean you don't need? She then started contradicting herself. I was reading the transcript just in case, you know, I thought I heard something incorrect. And the reporter was was saying, what do you say to the 40 percent of voters who supported Trump? And she was like, oh, well, I don't need them to win. And then she's asked, well, you said that you don't need them to win. And she was like, no, I'm saying that I'm going to try to win every vote. That's what I'm saying to you. And the reporter's like, you know what this reminds me of? It reminds me of, Cain, that interview where that girl was interviewing that musician, Sookie. And she was like, what do you mean? I'm a musician. Like, she thought she was saying a magician. Oh, my gosh. Girl, I don't think that's ghetto. I don't think.
SPEAKER 05 :
Like a new magic or something?
SPEAKER 16 :
Oh, my gosh. I can't even... So she just seemed completely. She seemed to completely came. How do you say nuts? Yeah. Yeah. That's how you say it. She's in the running. She's like like in the lead to be the next governor. She's the leading Democrat to replace Gavin Newsom as governor of California. That's all they got. They don't have anybody else out there. All the nuts. And that's the one they pick.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah. Lateral move there.
SPEAKER 16 :
I mean, is it lateral? Well, yeah, I mean, they're all bad. I don't want to sit here and try to, like, weigh it down. She's just, she's bad. Lorraine notes that she fired a staffer who she said gave her COVID. Oh, my gosh. Is that bad as cut 11? Oh, is it as bad as Cut 11? Probably not. Let's go ahead. Yeah, play Cut 11. So this is a flashback video of Katie Porter. Same woman. Listen.
SPEAKER 15 :
This allegation of groomer and pedophile, it is alleging that a person is criminal somehow and engaged in criminal acts merely because of their identity, their sexual orientation, their gender identity. So pedophilia is just an identity?
SPEAKER 16 :
So wanting to prey upon children as a sex pervert, an adult sex pervert, that's just an identity. I thought that was a criminal action. Wow. Wow. So she hates kids. Clearly. Wow. That's who's the lead Democrat for governor in California. What are you doing, California? What do you do in New York? Oh, my gosh. This is crazy. And she apparently, like all of the staffers that worked for her, hate her. Yeah, one of them, she went off on a staffer because she says the staffer gave her COVID. And she had them fired. And she was just apparently horrible to everyone. And then if you criticize her, you're a sexist or a bigot somehow. I don't even understand how that works because she's like a heavyset white woman. So I don't get that. But... Yeah, that's, that's, how do we say, nuts? That's nuts. Ken, that's nuts.
SPEAKER 10 :
It is.
SPEAKER 16 :
So, yeah. Hmm. Really wild. That's the lead Democrat in California. So, yeah, great for them. She just she has a short temper. Her and Jay Jones would be a pair, would it not? So you have her defending pedophilia and attacking her ex-husband and Jay Jones starting to shoot everyone and kill their kids. What a pair. But this is you see what I'm saying? This is this is where the left is going. This is how they are now. It's wild, but this is how they are. This is their new identity, for the lack of a better way to put it. This party. All right, so a couple of things to hit as we roll into, because you're already midway through the week, everybody. It's awesome. I wanted to share this story. Greta Thunberg. She shared a post highlighting the suffering of the Palestinian prisoners. And it was illustrated with a photo of an emaciated person. She thought she was sharing a photo of a Gazan. And what she did was share a photo of an Israeli hostage. That's an Israeli hostage. And. She wow. It was taken by Hamas from it's a hostage that was that was kidnapped from the Nova Festival. And this is a photo that Hamas had had apparently allowed to be released. He's in a tunnel in Hamas and he's writing a note. This piece of paper stuck to a wall. He looks, you know, obviously emaciated because they're starving him. And she shared that as a way to criticize Israel. She's never called for dismantling Hamas or anything like that because she's an idiotic stooge. She's just used by different people. And her parents prostitute her out there and allow her to be used for this cause and that. And they're so excited about the fame by association, right? They're very excited that this is... They're going to be known because their daughter's known. And Greta Thunberg is just, she's just fed by all of the attention. She was the one who claimed that they were kidnapping me. They gave her food and a free flight home. Again, not even the same. But she's never said, you know, to bring every hostage home. She's never said any of that. Now, that's a pretty bad blunder. She got removed from the first boat in the flotilla. If you guys remember the first time that they tried this, she was kicked off that boat. They said you can't be in a position of leadership because you're nuts. So they removed her off of that. And I guess she ended up being on this other, this other, they put her on another vessel in their flotilla. And then the second one, she was apparently not even on the lead vessel. So I don't even, why does she even go out there anymore? I thought she was for climate change. And now what, what's after this? What is she going to do after this? Is she just going to be like a scene stir her whole life? Is that what it is? I'm curious. She just be a scene stir her whole life. I don't know. So the embarrassing blunder by her. Look, you don't want to be unprotected online because there's so many shady people and so many scammers online. There's so many different ways to fleece you blind. Here's what you need to be. First thing you need to do is get Web Roots Total Protection. Now, it's not just about malware and ransomware and phishing scams. One of the things that WebRoot Total Protection does, and yes, it has real-time antivirus that blocks all the emerging threats from those attempts. But it also provides identity protection. It searches the dark web to make sure that your private information isn't popping up where it should be or where it shouldn't be. They also have a web threat shield that detects and blocks malicious sites on every browser. They have a system optimizer that deletes online activity traces. They have VPN encryption. And they also have up to a million dollars in expense reimbursement for identity theft and advanced dark web monitoring, all of that. Financial alerts are also included. So they've been doing this for over 25 years. And they have a customer retention rate that's over 90%. 24-7 U.S.-based customer service team. And plans are super affordable. And your whole family is covered. So this is great, you know, for parents. Your kids are covered. Your parents are covered. So it protects the whole family. You need to change up how you get online and make sure that you're protected with WebRoot. Get 60% off WebRoot's total protection at WebRoot.com slash Dana. That's 60% off, but only through WebRoot.com slash Dana. Live a better, safer digital life with WebRoot.
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SPEAKER 05 :
And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
SPEAKER 16 :
I don't believe this story. So it's a story that says America has become one of the world's least welcoming countries for tourists. And it's the telegraph, which is a left-leaning sewer. Yeah. And they said it's Donald Trump's anti-tourism measures. Well, what do you mean anti-tourism measures? Because illegal immigration isn't the same thing as tourism. Do we really have to have a discussion over this? Oh, my gosh. Let's see here. Apparently, your brains have evolved to socialize, but they max out at 150 friends. Mine max out over anything that I can count on. Everybody has like circles, layers of circles, right? You have like one, your main circle and then outside and then outside and outside. And I think that's fine and important to have. But they said that the size of your social networks is limited even in the age of social media and that brains absolutely max out at 150. That makes sense, right? I think that makes sense. Let's see here. Oh, Tropical Storm Jerry could form. And it could hit the Leeward Islands late this week. Why Jerry? Like, what a name, Jerry. Jerry. I don't know why I find that so funny. So be careful. A man was arrested for trying to pull over cars with flashing blue lights. Pierce County deputies pulled this. They got this guy. This was in Washington. They arrested a man for impersonation of a police officer. He was driving around using the blue lights. And the deputy saw him. He got in trouble once. And he was warned he could be arrested for impersonation. And then hours later, the same deputy saw this guy you know, the same driver using the blue lights and he was immediately arrested. So he got warned. He got warned. You know, you can't say he didn't, wasn't warned. Oh, let's see. The rainbow crosswalk in Miami was torn up by the Florida department of transportation. Is this the crosswalk where they got, they tried to go after the kids riding the scooters because they said that the kids had broken
SPEAKER 05 :
No, I think this is a different crosswalk. This one was actually built with bricks, colored bricks.
SPEAKER 16 :
Okay, okay.
SPEAKER 05 :
And they're tearing that up.
SPEAKER 16 :
So the Florida Department, DOT, they decided they were demolishing and repainting a rainbow crosswalk. The state said they're going to stop making crosswalks into political statements. It's supposed to be about pedestrian safety. And State Senator Carlos Smith bravely fought back. He tried to grab some sidewalk chalk and fill the colors back in. Yeah, I mean, it legit is about supposed to be about safety. Now, remember that you you you can burn an American flag, but they arrest it with Spokane, Washington. The they had electric scooters and they left skid marks on a pride mural and they they were arrested in Spokane, Washington. You could burn a flag, but you can't drive a scooter over a pride mural. It's just asinine, absolutely asinine. And it's actually very, it was very ugly. I saw the bricks. It was a very ugly crosswalk. And if it doesn't look like a crosswalk, then wouldn't that be confusing for people who don't know if they can cross there or not? I mean, it just seems like a fair question to ask. We've got a lot more on the way. Stick with us. If you're looking to create a stable financial future, consider Noble Gold Investments. Gold and silver are tangible assets, not just numbers on the screen, with thousands of years of trust behind them. Gold IRAs let you hold real assets in tax-deferred or tax-free retirement accounts. Noble Gold is the number one ranked gold IRA company for four years running, handling over $2.5 billion in precious metal transactions. And here's what's to like about Noble Gold. Their U.S.-based team is available six days a week, providing personalized and consistent service. Pricing is clear with no hidden fees or fine print. Whether you're setting up a gold IRA or making a direct purchase, they make it simple. You even get a photo of your actual metals. Hundreds of thousands of happy customers come back and refer others because of Noble Gold's helpful, informed, and straightforward approach. Open a new IRA or cash account now and receive a free 10-ounce silver flag bar plus a silver American Eagle Proof coin. Visit noblegoldinvestments.com slash Dana. That's noblegoldinvestments.com slash Dana.
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SPEAKER 01 :
We found this information to expose the politicization by Jack Smith and the prior Department of Justice. I mean, just think about it. Eight sitting United States senators, phone records were gathered and subpoenaed through the grand jury process, and it was buried and wormholed in the hope that no one would find it. So we're just scratching the surface here, but accountability is coming. You're darn right I fired those agents. You're darn right I blew up CR15, the public corruption squad that led the weaponization at the Washington field office. We're just warming up.
SPEAKER 16 :
I mean, they were surveilling these Republican lawmakers. And this is exactly I mean, they're private communications. And thankfully, I just want to point out that we wouldn't know any of this. had it not been for the whistleblowers. So there are some good ones out there. I just want to be clear with that. Because the only reason that we know about this is because of the whistleblowers. Now think about that for a moment. It's crazy, right? If they had not come out and said anything, we would probably still be in the dark. Welcome back to the program. Dana Lash with you. We are at the bottom of the second hour. The chat's at rumble. You can watch us do the radio show, Channel 347, DirecTV. So that's a big problem. This whole insane, this bombshell, this former counsel, Jack Smith, they spied on nearly a dozen that we know of, lawmakers. all about J6, into the J6 whatever, that whole thing that they're trying to concoct. This is a weaponization of the FBI that is just continuing with what we have seen, what we saw with under Obama and Biden, right? Chuck Grassley said it's worse than Watergate. Cain, do you think it's worse than Watergate?
SPEAKER 05 :
I think it's worse than Watergate because of the obvious ways they went to essentially erase the fact that they did this. They first went into a protective information category that only certain people could access. And then it became one that was essentially for the burn bags where no one was supposed to like completely prohibited that only the attorney general and the director of the FBI could together release. So that's why I think it's worse.
SPEAKER 16 :
That's kind of crazy that no one was supposed to find out about this. The documents that have been revealed, it says Arctic Frost team. Sometimes these team names are kind of crazy. That almost sounds like a cod stunt. This Arctic Frost. Who names that?
SPEAKER 05 :
I think Gatorade named a drink that, too.
SPEAKER 16 :
Didn't they? Isn't it the blue drink? I think so. All right, wait. I'm those people who's like, I want the red drink. What drink did you want? Red? And I would like blue drink. That's kind of how I... It's Operation Arctic Frost. And, I mean, I've looked at some of the... I mean, clearly... You had the Biden administration interfering here. That's not even up for discussion. They looked at Lindsey Graham, Marsha Blackburn, Ron Johnson, Josh Hawley, Cynthia Loomis, Bill Hagerty, Dan Sullivan out of Alaska, Tommy Tuberville, Tuberville, Tuberville, Tuberville of Alabama and Mike Kelly out of Pennsylvania. And it was called CAST Assistance, and that's the FBI Cellular Analysis Survey Team. Sorry. So it's called their CAST Assistance. And they were tracking them to see what numbers they were calling, location. And it was all, you know, a part of J6 and 2020 election stuff. By the way, the Arctic Frost thing, that became Jack Smith's, as Grassley noted, his elector case against Trump. A lot of this is blacked out, though. There's a lot that's blacked out that you can't see. But wow. How is this not a weaponization?
SPEAKER 05 :
Oh, it is. And if their convictions were in anything righteous, they would have been public with this. They would have been, oh, this is what we're doing because this is what we're seeing, and here's our true concerns. But none of that was ever articulated to the public, and instead they decided to hide every step of the way.
SPEAKER 10 :
Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER 16 :
Trump called him a sleazebag after the revelation, which I think that's probably the nicest thing that you could you could call him at this point. I mean, the guy clearly had a political vendetta. So this all kicked off the probe. So Arctic Frost was their investigation into election interference concerns. And then the. Probe. They launched the probe in April of 22 and Jack Smith took it over then. And then they targeted these lawmakers. Now, the senator said they were trying to figure out what grounds that he had to surveil them. Like they were actually, you know. Who were they? They were looking at who are they calling and what time, at least from what we see in the documentation, they weren't actually like tapping into the phones like they were doing with Carter Page. But they were watching everything that they did. And I think the reason they didn't go that far is because they would have had to go to a FISA judge to get that. And I don't think this was so. Not so long after Carter Page, because if you remember, Carter Page was going 2015 going into or sorry, 2016 going into 2017. And that lead up into then into that they had they actually cut corners and bypassed the protocol to get the wiretap surveillance on Carter Page. They did tap into his phones. And I think they also did under Biden a number of or sorry, Obama Biden under a number of Associated Press reporters as well. This one, they didn't tap into it, but they looked at their phone records because they would have had to go and get that that particular type of warrant from a FISA judge. And that would have been disastrous. Can you imagine if they had done that twice? I mean, it's bad enough what it is. It's obviously weaponization how it is right now. But if they had two instances where. where they cut corners and abandoned standard operating procedure to get a surveillance warrant on someone going through the FISA court. And I don't think that the FISA court would have I don't think that they would have gotten a judge there to do it twice because they already had that one judge that left. She was forced to resign because of her part in the Carter Page surveillance. So. because she let all that go through. And those wheels were greased, if you remember, by the Oers, Nellie Orr and Bruce Orr. Bruce Orr was at DOJ. Nellie Orr was at Fusion GPS. And he had also worked with FBI. So they had, you know, they had a whole system there. So what were the grounds for them to do this? And some of the lawmakers, I mean, these were all, these lawmakers, every one of them, I mean, maybe with the exception of Grassley, they were all very vocal about questioning the veracity of ballots from states that had suspended their checks and balances. If you remember, this is what gets lost in the discussion from the left. I take issue with people saying that they were trying to upend an election back in 2020. It wasn't anything like what Democrats were trying to legitimately do in 2016. By the way, if you want to talk about stealing elections, let's look at what Democrats were trying to do in 2016. There is ample evidence. to not just beg the question, but actually to just make the statement that they were trying to influence and undo a free and fair election. In 2020, the only objections, and this is what people don't understand about this process, people were not trying to stop the flipping election, okay? They were not trying to stop the certification of the election as a whole. You had lawmakers that had every right to ask whether or not these ballots were legitimate, that were coming from certain states, certain counties within certain states. And here's why. If you remember during COVID with the lockdown, a lot of states decided to upend their procedures for mail-in ballots and early voting and to lessen the amount of crowds that were going to polling places. So you remember they had like drop boxes. You could drop your ballot in. You could pick it up and do all of this weird stuff. A lot of them even suspended signature matching on ballots that were mailed in. And some of the ballots in there were if you go back and look at what was widely reported, there were instances of ballots that were received and counted. that did not even have a postmark date on it, which that's kind of important, I would think, so you can tell whether or not a ballot is arriving in time and not after an election has ended. And this is all legitimate. I don't think that anybody would have any objections to these things. What the left tried to do is distract from these very legitimate concerns to which they had no defense and act like instead it was Republicans objecting to the election as a whole. And that's a lie. It's a lie to cover up the erosion of voter ballot integrity county by county. So, for instance, in like states like Pennsylvania, even in states like Georgia, Georgia changed a lot of their voting procedures. Now, if you remember later on, they went back and they they made permanent a lot of these changes, which I actually didn't agree with. There were a lot of authors. This was even before the Roe v. Wade stuff that happened. There were a lot of authors that were saying, oh, my gosh, they're stealing elections or a lot of actors, athletes, celebrities, films that were threatening to not shoot in Georgia, all of this other stuff because they were mad. And they kept saying that Georgia was trying to rob people of their ability to vote or rob the election when really Georgia was actually making permanent the changes that were made during covid, which I actually thought were bad. That's just my opinion. I thought that they were bad and I thought you don't take something that, you know, really needed to not be done in the first place during a time of pandemic and then actually codify it and make it, you know, make it law. A lot of these states like Pennsylvania, there were counties that had suspended signature matching. And so the argument is this. Every states have the sovereignty to run their elections the way they see fit. And that's all understandable. Right. No one. Nobody objects to that. But if you're Pennsylvania and you want Texas to accept the legitimacy of your ballots, then you need to uphold the promises that you made to these states in order to have that happen. So if Pennsylvania is like we have all of these checks and balances to make sure that these ballots are legitimate. And Texas goes, oh, we like that. OK, well, you know, we'll consider it. We will take into account your votes. And then you change it. And well, we're not even going to have signature matching. Oh, we can't even tell whether or not these ballots even came in before the election ended. That's a major problem. And that, ladies and gentlemen, is what lawmakers were explicitly objecting to. They were making sure that the ballots were fulfilling the obligation that the states had made to one another. If you you can run your elections how you want to. But by God, you better have some some ways to authenticate and verify these ballots and uphold the integrity of the ballot and the integrity of the will of the people at the same time. You can run your elections how you want to. But if you wanted to have effect in other states, you need to be following the word that you gave. And that's the whole point. And so what they were trying to do here is that I think this was in conjunction with all of the people spinning that narrative, saying that, well, Republicans are trying to undo the election. And just to add meat to it, they decided to go after, quite honestly, some of the most innocuous lawmakers in the Senate. I mean, really, Chuck Grassley. Do you know what he tweets about most of the time? The deer he sees on the side of the road. I mean, going after Marsha Blackburn. She's like one of the nicest people. She's from Tennessee. One of the sweetest people going after people like Tommy Tuberville. Like, why? Why in the world? This is so there's one reason why they wanted to intimidate. They wanted to chill dissent and they wanted to really give. They wanted to enhance the idea that these lawmakers were doing something nefarious when in reality it was Democrats. They weren't doing, Democrats weren't making their move nationally. Democrats were making their move within the states and in the counties. And Republicans were objecting and questioning the veracity of some of these ballots nationally, if that makes sense. So that was what all of that was about. And so much of it, you know, people like Mike Pence didn't help, you know, by by feeding into some of this narrative. You know, they didn't help. There were apparently whistleblowers also, by the way, that came forward and said the FBI had phone data on Trump and Pence as part of Arctic Frost. They were they were. And this is after the FBI. Another whistleblower had said that they had 92 Republican linked groups like groups like Turning Point USA that were under the purview of Arctic Frost's investigation. Is that not insane? Now, did they ever do that to Black Lives Matter? Nope. Did they ever do that to Antifa? Nope. No, they didn't do that. Occupy Wall Street?
SPEAKER 10 :
Nope.
SPEAKER 16 :
Chaz Chop?
SPEAKER 10 :
Nope.
SPEAKER 16 :
Hmm. But they did it to parents who would speak up at school board meetings. They did it to Catholics. They did it to the nuns that were objecting to the abortifacients. They did it to, you know, everybody. Interesting. So, yeah, they haven't learned that. What this suggests is that Democrats still haven't learned the same Democrats that through chaos that threw us all into chaos in 2016 with the Russian collusion stuff. They're still at it. They're still they have not learned a singular lesson. And now what they think they have to do is use, you know, insane rhetoric and then be violent. So they're adding to it. We've got more on the way. We've got a Florida man coming up as we move our partners that will bring you the program. Inflammation is a huge thing that everybody deals with, no matter what decade of life that you are in and not. remedying the consequences of inflammation. Later on, well, that can come back in some pretty bad dividends. So consider Relief Factor. It incorporates things like resveratrol and turmeric and all kinds of good things. 100% drug-free research-based formula, all designed to support a healthy response to inflammation. and decrease discomfort from exercise and everyday living. My husband takes it to deal with old sports injuries. I know a lot of people, I know a lot of ladies that will take it because they go and they work out in the gym hard, but they don't want to be like super sore and achy, especially after you have like upper body or you do arms. It's really rough after. But you can try Relief Factor's three-week quick start for just $19.95. That's 95 cents a day. It's less than a cup of coffee. Your joints and muscles will thank you. Visit relieffactor.com or call 800-4-RELIEF and get your three-week quick start today for just $19.95. Support your body with natural anti-inflammatory power and see if Relief Factor is right for you.
SPEAKER 03 :
It's his life mission to make bad decisions. It's time for Florida Man.
SPEAKER 16 :
So we're now at that point in the show where I come across a Florida man headline, and I'm like, oh, what? Before I do that one, let me just put this right here for you, Cain. Let me just set that right here. This came from our Florida woman, Amber, who finds the weirdest stuff to send. God love her. Oh. You just, yeah, yeah. A Florida man accused of using a cane to beat another driver in a road rage incident. Good man. His cane. So he's an elderly individual. Yeah. Florida man accused of beating another driver with his cane. 69-year-old. He got mad because the driver cut him off, so he armed himself with a cane and decided to go to beat downtown. With his cane. I mean, you don't even need anything else at this point. According to the charging affidavit, Thomas Wolfe is charged with aggravated battery with a deadly weapon because the cane can be used as a deadly weapon. But he said the other driver cut him off. So why would you get out? Just stop getting out of your car and doing stuff. Stop fighting other people. I mean, yes, no one else can drive but you. I get it. I feel that way every time I get behind my steering wheel. I'm like, oh, my gosh, nobody can drive in Texas. Oh, my gosh. I get it. But that doesn't mean that you should get out and beat someone with your cane. You're going to get charged. Also, you could end up like this guy. There's just literally no way to do this.
SPEAKER 05 :
Wait, you're choosing this one?
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, I am, because it's ridiculous.
SPEAKER 05 :
Over all the other ones that are in there, you're choosing this one.
SPEAKER 16 :
No, I know, but this one is insane, and I feel like... That's true. So here's the thing. I feel like when people from Florida send me these stories, if I don't read them, then they send me worse ones. They just keep amping it up. A Florida man with a thermos inserted in his body was caught sneaking it into Polk County Jail. This is from Polk County Sheriff Grady Judd. Man tried to smuggle a thermos into the jail in his prison wallet. Walter Frymere. That man is 51. A deputy, Judd said a deputy likely saved his life and arrested him when he arrested him because he had to take him to the hospital where a specialist had to remove the thermos. He said that the ordeal began with a complaint about a man naked at the park. And the guy said, well, I'm not naked. You know, I got socks on. Well, no, that's not, sir. That's not true. But they what he said was the sheriff in his office. When talking to the press about it, he said, yeah, he put it up the exit ramp. You know what I mean? And then gave a knowing look. That's how reporters described it. Oh, my gosh. I don't I don't have any words. OK, there you go. Don't send me any bad ones, guys. Don't send me any horrible ones, because then we just it's a horrible thing. Let's see. A Florida man strapped a deputy stolen ATV to his car roof. That's impressive, actually. Yeah, that's like, you know what, that's some hillbilly expertise right there. We got our third hour on the way. Stick with us. For our partners that will bring you the program, it's Kel-Tec, the KS7 Gen 2 shotgun. With Kel-Tec, this is one of the many shotguns that they have over at Kel-Tec, and the KS7 is built for... compact spaces and maneuverability it's a good idea for home defense or outback or anywhere in between and the design with the ks7 there's some upgrades you have five slot picatinny style accessory rails you can add grips lights whatever keep it flush it's a smoother pump action for faster cleaner cycling ultra lightweight at just under seven pounds unloaded compact bullpup design seven plus one capacity And you can get the Defender package, and there's a bunch of stuff that comes with that, including a Vortex. You've got extended butt pad, all kinds of stuff. MSRP is only $639, so it's completely affordable and accessible. It's from Kel-Tec, K-E-L-T-E-C, weapons.com, made in Florida. Kel-Tec weapons.com. It's the KS7 Gen 2. Tell them Dana sent you.
SPEAKER 21 :
Any reaction to Bad Bunny being chosen as the Super Bowl halftime performance? I didn't even know who Bad Bunny was, but it sounds like a terrible decision in my view from what I'm hearing. How come? What's that? How come? Well, it sounds like he's not someone who appeals to a broader audience. And I think, you know, there's so many eyes on the Super Bowl, a lot of young, impressionable children. And I think in my view, you would have Lee Greenwood or role models doing that, not not somebody like this. Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
SPEAKER 16 :
OK, God love you. You're such a little. Little sweet teddy bear. I'm saying that somewhat sarcastically. That's Speaker Johnson, who is like, I don't know. I like when older people say bad bunny. It just sounds hysterical. I say older. I mean, he's like, what are you older than me? Anyway, a couple of thoughts. You know the joke that Marco Rubio has to take all these jobs, you know, like he has to take all these. I mean, it's a meme that's online where, oh, my gosh, Marco Rubio is going to have to take over this now and he's going to have to do this. And he's sitting there's a photo of him sitting on the couch in the Oval Office where he's just actually I think that photo was from when Trump was arguing with Zelensky there. Remember that whole first time where they got into kind of a little tiff and he was sitting there looking just completely. over it all. And the joke is that every single time there's an opening that comes up in the administration, they give it to Rubio, which is kind of true because he's like a temporary, a couple of things. And I feel kind of like Lee Greenwood is the Marco Rubio of like the music stuff. I love Lee Greenwood. Everybody loves Lee Greenwood. But do you think that Lee Greenwood is like, I've sung this song a million times and it's a great song. I get it. You know what I mean, though? Because he's got other songs. But do you ever think he's like, oh, my gosh, I would like to go on vacation with my family. I mean, do you think that he thinks that at some point or does he or not? I mean, he's such a nice guy. I've met him before. He's he's he's a gem. He really is. But sometimes I wonder, could you hear like some of these artists? They're like, oh, my gosh, we've played this album so many times. We've played the set list so many times. And it's Lee Greenwood. They're like, Lee, sing the song. And he's like, I have others albums. They're like, no, no, no. The song. You know, I don't know.
SPEAKER 05 :
I just I think big artists have addressed this in the past where some people have felt like, man, I play this song a bunch. But then the flip side of that coin is, look, you have a bunch of fans who love this song so much that seeing you perform it with some tired look on your face is not what these fans want to see.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, I agree. I agree. I mean, it's. Yeah. It's... I don't know. I don't think that he... Not the Super Bowl. I can't believe I'm about to say this, but... Dare I do it. Oh, gosh. How do I do this? Why... Why haven't they asked Taylor Swift? I'm not a Swifty. Don't dare. Don't you dare. But... I mean, she's got the presence. She can put on a show. She doesn't talk about, you know, skanking it up. I mean, I don't know. Her latest album might, I think, have some of that in there. But she's talking about her mans. So I don't know. I'm not a Swifty. I can't tell you anything.
SPEAKER 05 :
They can't have that trad wife propaganda.
SPEAKER 16 :
Oh, no. But see, I want that. I want all the girls, all the cat ladies to meh. I just want them to all freak out. But for real, I get it that Jay-Z and Roc Nation run the Super Bowl halftime show, but it would be great if they could, I don't know, maybe broaden their horizons a little bit and have a more diverse musical taste. Just for a thought. Just a thought. Because I think the objections to Bad Bunny are the fact that he's very inappropriate in any language in terms of the stuff that he discusses. So I think it's fair to say, right? Yeah. I mean, that's the thing, because I hear some of the left talk about it. I really don't care because I'm not going to. I don't care. up to the point where the halftime show is really the only thing I would watch because I just don't watch football. I grew up in a baseball town. I don't watch football. I've never... I don't even... My husband has tried. We've had this conversation before here, guys. God love him. He's tried a million times to explain to me how it works. You all out there have been so kind. And it's just not... I'm just... It's not going to happen. It's just... I'm incapable of doing it. It's not going to happen. So I just... I like the halftime show, right? But... I would like to watch it The best one was Prince That was the best one. That was the best halftime show that's ever halftimed. That one. And then it rained while he performed Purple Rain. Like what? Anyway, that was a great one. I've seen some other ones that were pretty good. But I just think that with Bad Bunny, it's just it can be age inappropriate. And the Democrats and the left think, oh, well, he's seen in Spanish. So no one's going to know. Well, wait a minute. The whole reason that a lot of people are promoting him is because it would be in Spanish. And so you're trying to reach a Hispanic market. But then at the same time, are you not worried about that market being exposed to like some of the content for real? I think that's a legitimate question, right? So that doesn't really make any sense either. It sounds actually kind of racist. Oh, we don't care if those people get that. I mean, no, it's just I just think that it has to be someone who's it's a tricky thing. You've got to be able to rock a stadium. And you have to have the presence of performance to do it. And you need to be kind of like all ages appealing. And that's a hard thing to do. I get it. But for crying out loud, I just don't think that he's the one like I thought Kendrick Lamar was that was ridiculous. That was that was like, oh, I know that I have friends who love him. I don't care. I just don't. Not everybody is perfect for that type of show. You have to be like on your own without a supporting entity to fill an arena. That's how I look at it. Is that mean, Kane? I feel like that's. And I know he's I know Bad Bunny is very popular outside the U.S., Inside the U.S., I think you've got to change it up when you're talking about specifically a halftime show. Who would you have as a halftime performer?
SPEAKER 05 :
I would have some sort of rock act, an act that you know plays the center of the spectrum of the audience for football. Because if you're a football audience, you're not a Bad Bunny enthusiast, right? That's kind of like... obvious so i would i would try something that was more in the middle uh a decent rock act something get billy corgan in there do something i don't know steve says foo fighters was his pick foo fighters that would actually be good foo fighters would be good i mean dare i say metallica but didn't i hear rush got a new drummer or something oh my gosh she's and she is so good like that would be a great one
SPEAKER 16 :
Rush?
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 16 :
Really? You think Rush? I mean, I think they're a great band.
SPEAKER 05 :
I love Rush.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, they're going on tour.
SPEAKER 05 :
Anything that would at least symbolize the unity that both sides of this entertainment aisle exist.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah. Well, they got, so how do you say her last name? Niles, Anika Niles. That's their, she's the, uh, uh, new drummer that they picked. I mean, they're not, you know, it's, she's German. Uh, she's amazing. She's, I've been watching videos of her performing and she's, I've never, Oh my gosh, she's ridiculous. Uh, it wasn't when you watch her perform, you immediately know that they didn't, they didn't pick her because they wanted to have, Oh, let's have like a, um, what am i thinking of like a token female or uh oh this is going to be a gimmick no no no they picked her because she's that damn good she is better than oh my gosh she's great uh so that that would be actually really cool what if you had like foo fighters italica and rush dude that's a halftime show right that's a halftime show i'm just saying but i just don't think no do we know are there any supporting acts do we know i don't even know
SPEAKER 05 :
I'm sure there are. I'm sure there are. But again, they only have like, what, 25, 30 minutes for this thing?
SPEAKER 16 :
Lorraine says she's suggesting Post Malone. That'd be good. Yeah, I'm not opposed to it. He's not really inappropriate. Yeah. Yeah, I'm all right with that. Yeah, I'd be okay with that one.
SPEAKER 05 :
That'd be pretty middle of the road right now.
SPEAKER 16 :
I mean, I'm even fine with like Rihanna or, you know, she's like...
SPEAKER 05 :
I mean, I think they're picking these quote-unquote controversial ones because of, look at the earned press they're getting from this right now. This is the earned media they're getting out of it. It's almost like engagement farming. You put something online that's controversial, you're going to get a lot of pushback from both sides, and it's kind of, I think, their motivation here.
SPEAKER 16 :
That makes sense. But still, it's kind of ridiculous. I just think it's a little nutty. But yeah, that makes some sense, I guess. I don't know. It just seems like I don't think they're great at doing halftime shows, Roc Nation. They're not great. It's Jay-Z's thing.
SPEAKER 05 :
I guess that was a big deal that they made. Which one was that? Like a 90s? It was a tribute to 90s rap or something? That was pretty decent.
SPEAKER 16 :
That was pretty good last year. That was pretty decent. They kept it old school. The other thing, too, is they had a great stage performance. Whereas with Kendrick Lamar, just kind of walked around on the stage. I'm sorry. He can't hold the vibe in an arena. He's like a smaller venue dude. We'll fight people on it. I don't care. I don't I don't really I don't care. He just, you know, anyway, I just was thinking out loud. I can't believe I said that. I don't know what kind of feedback I'm going to get from that, but I don't care. I you know, she wouldn't be a bad one. But then if they had the chiefs in it, then you can't. That's like a conflict, isn't it? Yeah, it's a conflict of interest. And so I guess they don't know. I guess that's why they can't do it. I don't know anyway not that it would like throw the game or anything but still a couple of other things I just I found that whole thing interesting and I wanted to wanted to make sure we hit that so this couple of things let me pull this up I had this thing on the British police where the I'm trying this is an insane story so let's go back a couple of weeks and in Manchester, England, where you had that terror attack, right? Where a dude decided to go and attack Jewish worshipers at a synagogue. Now, the guy wasn't armed, remember? He wasn't armed. But one of the victims was shot and killed, and the other one was hospitalized. So I was thinking about this, wait, what? And this was the guy whose name is Jihad, right? Like, oh, your name is Jihad? What are you gonna grow up to be? So and the third one is getting there's a third victim that's getting treatment in the hospital and who also had a gunshot wound. So you might be wondering, well, how is it that three victims were shot and one was killed? And Mr. Jihad, literally his name, didn't even have a firearm. Well, it was because the British police shot them. Yes. The people who will actively arrest you over a meme, the ones, the only people allowed to have guns, they shot these people while they were trying to deal with this terror attack or this guy, this. Wow. They said the home office pathologist, they have provisionally determined that one of the deceased victims would appear to have suffered a wound consistent with a gunshot injury. Well, duh. I this is just so what if the jihad doesn't kill you then the British police will like what I've never and I look I know that it's difficult in certain instances but do you realize that I don't think that their police because not all of their police are even able to carry and I don't know what kind of training they receive but I don't how do three people end up getting shot when you're trying to get this one guy I wasn't there and I'm not trying to arm you know armchair quarterback, but still. They said the only shots were fired were from the GMP's authorized firearms officers as they worked to prevent the offender from entering the synagogue and causing further harm. I'm just going to lay that on the table. I have no words for that. That's what happens when you don't... I just... So the guy who's named Jihad attacks a synagogue to try to kill some of the Jewish people inside and some of the Jewish people get shot. But Jihad had no gun. Oh, my gosh. This is like a Monty Python skit. This is really that's embarrassing for the their enforcement over there. We have more on the way as we roll towards the bottom of this hour. We have Dinesh D'Souza coming up as well as we move. The folks who help make the program happen. It's Patriot Mobile, the only Christian conservative cell phone service that is out there. They want to save you money. Not only do they want to save you money, but they want to make sure that you're getting the best possible coverage so they have access to all of it, all three major networks. So you're covered wherever you are. You go and your money doesn't work against you at the ballot box. Right. A portion of your bill goes directly to fund things like folds of honor and tunnel for towers groups that make a difference for our nation's heroes. And so you're not just paying a phone bill. You're actually standing up for those who stood up for us. And you can talk with one of their U.S. based. customer service team members that will make sure that you get set up. You don't have to make a store visit. You can do all of this from the comfort of your own home, right by your sofa, right at your desk, however it works for you. And so that's what you get with Patriot Mobile. You get coverage you can trust. You get affordability. It's easy to switch, and you can keep your number or your phone, upgrade, the whole thing. It's up to you. Visit PatriotMobile.com slash Dana or call 972-PATRIOT to get started and use promo code Dana to get a free month of service. Veterans and first responders, you get 15% off of your bill every month. It's PatriotMobile.com slash Dana. Promo code Dana. 972-PATRIOT.
SPEAKER 05 :
And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It's time for Dana's Quick Five.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, I call this self-cleaning oven. So this story, a middle school teacher jailed for raping a 15-year-old was killed in prison by a convicted murderer. Yeah, that's how it works. Ernest Nichols, 60, was found unresponsive inside of his cell at the Grand Correctional Center on Sunday morning in North Carolina. They sent it in lockdown. He was pronounced dead about 30 minutes later. And he was convicted of rape in 2011, sentenced to 15 years behind bars. He was going to get out on September 27. So apparently the... He was killed by a fellow prisoner and he went after this teenager multiple times over the course of six months, apparently. He like was he it was bad. I'm not going to tell you all the details of the case. But William Baldwin is the 41 year old who was convicted of second degree murder in 2010. And he's the guy being accused of killing this guy in this case. So just saying that's, you know, self-cleaning oven. I really don't have anything to add to that. A truck of, quote, not happy bees. Spills onto Clark Country Road. Clark County Road, excuse me. This was in Oregon. Firefighters said they encountered a sticky situation when a truck full of not happy bees, that's how they described them, rolled over onto a road near Mount Vista. They had crews that responded and they had the beekeepers come out. They said the bees were not happy. And so it made it very difficult to... Free the driver. The driver refused treatment. A local beekeeper was able to round up the hive. And so I guess the bees are happy again. We've got to protect them. Honeybees, I'm saying. Kids in New York keep dying because they want to stop subway surfing on top of trains. And then the AP goes, can it be stopped? Yeah, it's called parents. It's called parents. That's who can stop it. They said that there have been over a dozen New Yorkers, many of them young boys, that have been killed or injured after falling off of speeding trains. And a lot of times they're crushed between the train and tunnel walls or electrocuted by the high voltage subway tracks. Oh, my gosh. And this is like a social media thing. I'm telling you, China's trying to get people to off themselves by changing the algorithms to show you this stuff. Bartenders are noticing a lack of tips from Gen Z drinkers because they probably weren't raised properly is why. Tip your bartenders. There's a reason why it's a thing. Stick with us. Dinesh D'Souza. He's got a new film out. He joins us next. Partners that help bring you the program, our friends over at Burn a Gun. It's always important. Look, I carry, I tell you this all the time, I carry, I have no problems using lethal force to protect myself and my loved ones. But I also realize that there are times when you're not able to carry because of municipal restrictions or private property restrictions or or asinine laws that say 18-year-olds can go and carry full auto in defense of their country and foreign lands, but heaven forbid they're not responsible enough to carry a 9mm semi-automatic pistol here at home if they're living alone and going to college. That being said, this is where the Berna gun comes in. You believe in diversification of weapons, that's why you have rifles and pistols and different calibers and blades, etc. This is just adding to the diversification of your self-defense array. Berna gun shoots chemical irritant projectiles that can deter threats from up to 50 feet away. When you compare it to a regular stun gun that has one or two rounds, the Burna gun outmatches it by 15 round shot capacity per cartridge. No recoil. Easy target acquisition. The CL, the compact launcher, is the most compact model that they have. It's the size of an iPhone. And there's no gun-free zone sign that matters to the Burna gun. It doesn't care about gun-free zones. It's illegal in all 50 states. You can buy it online, have it shipped to your door. There's no fees. There's no background checks. There's absolutely nothing that is barring you from being able to make sure that you have a means with which to defend yourself. Visit Burna.com slash Dana. It's the Burna, C-L-B-Y-R-N-A.com slash Dana. Burna, ready when you are.
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SPEAKER 16 :
Little Depeche Mode, Personal Jesus, for those who are listening terrestrially all around the country. And of course, you can watch us do the radio program, Channel 347 Direct TV, the chats at Rumble, all those good things. So there's a film that's out that's based on this book that I actually have in my hand right here, The Dragon's Prophecy. Actually, I should hold it up longer. This is a fascinating book, and it gets into biblical prophecy, but then also current events. And it seems like with the world being so insane, you can kind of find a lot in current events right now. The film, which is in theaters, you can find it at thedragonsprophecyfilm.com. And it comes from author and filmmaker Dinesh D'Souza, who joins us now via video. Dinesh, it's good to see you. Thanks for joining us. And congrats on the film.
SPEAKER 02 :
Dana, thank you very much. When I made this film, it started out with my interest in biblical archaeology, then along came October 7th, and then along came Jonathan Cahn with some very arresting things to say about all this. He compares the battles between Israel and Hamas to ancient battles in the Bible between the Israelites and a group called the Philistines. Turns out that Philistine and Palestine is in fact the same name transported through history. But what Khan does is he goes on to show the tactics of October 7th. can be found in the Bible. Why? Because they're actually not new. So all of this, I think, drew me in. I thought it'd be interesting to make a different kind of film for me. My earlier films, you know them, many of them are focused on the meaning of America in one way or another. But this is a film that goes abroad. It's also a film that combines the political with the biblical and the spiritual in a way that I haven't done before.
SPEAKER 16 :
And that's that's I love that you mentioned that, too, with the Philistines, because we've talked about that on the show before. I mean, that's you have a bunch of Jordanians on a strip of land that was owned by Israel that hijacked this history that Hadrian had given the land this name to spite the Jews absolutely. After the second Judean uprising. So it's just the context there is so incredibly important. And a lot of people that, you know, especially the people that you see in the streets protesting and waving the Hamas flags and all of that, they don't really seem to acknowledge that. I mean, it's like an entirely created it's a created identity like trans is. It's just very, you know, it's all manufactured.
SPEAKER 02 :
This is very important. I was talking in Israel recently with Mossab Hassan Youssef, this is the so-called son of Hamas, and he goes, there are no Palestinians and there has never been a Palestinian state. He goes, but there is something that he calls Palestinianism, which is like the ideology, just like trans ideology. It is a kind of fabricated or invented identity, and then that identity is used to make preposterous claims on other people. I mean, just to take a concrete example, there's no doubt that the Jews are the original inhabitants of that land, This is where the biblical archaeology is decisive, right? You have stone inscriptions and clay seals coming out of the ground and monuments. And so we now know that Pontius Pilate, the high priest Caiaphas, Jeremiah, Isaiah, King David, I mean, they're the ruins of his palace. You can stand in them right now. So there's no question that the Jews belong there. They were there from the beginning. But... uh the philistines were not semites they were not arabs they actually came they're europeans they came from the aegean they came from places like cyprus right so the arabs and the semites who claim to be palestinians are not indigenous to gaza there is a disproportion there between the claim of the jews and the claim of the palestinians at least when it comes to original inhabitancy
SPEAKER 16 :
What's so striking about this, and for those who are just joining us, we're talking with Dinesh D'Souza. His new film, The Dragon's Prophecy, is in theaters. And you can find it at thedragonsprophecyfilm.com. And we'll have the trailer and everything as well up. But what really strikes me about this is I feel like this is such... This is weird. It is a very weird time. And I know you've talked a little bit about this on social media and elsewhere. It just seems like 10 to 15 years ago, you didn't see the types of anti-Semitism that we are seeing now. And it's not just on the left anymore. There are factions of people that I think are new to the right. that are promoting this. And I kind of feel I mean, I don't want to go down a rabbit hole too deeply, but I sort of feel like it's a giant psyop and China's trying to instigate it. And they would see they would love nothing more than to watch the Qataris divide everybody, divide that Judeo-Christian alliance. And I really think that that's kind of what a lot of this is. Speak to that a little bit, because you've been well, I don't want to read your tweets, but there was one that you had involving sheep, which was quite hysterical.
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I may not want to repeat that one, but let's say this, you know, in some ways the anti-Semitism of the left is part of their anti-colonial ideology. Now, it's all inverted because obviously the Jews can't be colonizers. How do you colonize your own land? This is like accusing Native Americans of colonizing America or Asian Indians of colonizing India. It makes absolutely no sense. In fact, if anybody is a colonizer, of course, it's Islam. If you stand in the middle of Jerusalem, on the very site of the Solomonic Temple, the holiest site for Judaism and Christianity, there now sits an Islamic victory arch called the Dome of the Rock. And right next to it, of course, the Al-Aqsa mosque so this was the muslims coming out of the arabian desert coming out of syria storming into jerusalem and basically putting this victory arch right there as if to say they were proud of the colonialism and they wanted the world to to see it as you can see it as you can see it today now from the right uh the motives of the anti-israel people and the anti-jewish people to me are very difficult to figure out here's why because it's quite clear that there is an unholy alliance between the cultural left in the West and the radical jihadis around the world. These are two very different groups. Conceptually, it's hard to see them coming together. They cannot inhabit each other's worlds, but they are politically allied. Why? Because they hate the same people. And who are those people? The Jews, Israel, Christians, the West. So it would seem obvious that anybody who believes in Western civilization, anybody who's America first would recognize this and recognize, listen, these are people who have kind of declared war against us politically, militarily, culturally, morally. And so it makes sense for the Jews and the Christians, it makes sense for Israel and the West to come together against this kind of common two-headed foe. And so when I see people on our own side that are fracturing MAGA, that are trying to, in some ways, take MAGA away from Trump, they're trying to break the old kind of Reagan coalition, which has always recognized that America first does not mean America alone. I think this is, I don't know the motives, Dana, but I think the effects are very pernicious.
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I think some of the motives, and this might be a bit specious, but I think some of the motives are people that are just clout chasing and they found a way to break through and to stand alone. Because I can't imagine some of the things that I've seen said, like people... For instance, I always hear AIPAC, AIPAC, AIPAC. And do you know how much money AIPAC? Well, let's compare their money to what Qatar gives to American universities as the number one donation. You know this. I know you do. The number one donor to American universities is comes from the Qataris, followed by the Communist Party of China. Yet I don't hear anything about that from these same individuals.
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And then to extend the same point out loud, you will find Christians who are obsessed with genocide in Gaza. Now Christians might be slaughtered in much bigger numbers elsewhere in the world. And so when you have Christians who are indifferent to all that, but obsessed with Gaza, you have to ask, What kind of moral lens, what kind of spectacles are you putting on that makes you single out the Jews? You're always holding the Jews and Israel to a standard you'd never apply to someone else. I had on my podcast Netanyahu yesterday, and he was making the point, when the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor, we didn't count the number of civilians and go, listen, we can't declare war on them. We've got to limit our retaliation to three air raids where we You know, we kill no more than how many civilians they killed. No, we we go. We have a Pacific war. We dropped two atomic bombs. And even the people who don't agree with that say, well, no, we should have done a land invasion of Japan. Well, you know, Dana, what kind of casualties that would have produced. So if you think all that is OK and then suddenly a new standard pops up when you're dealing with the Jews in Israel. So I think it's a pretty good working definition of antisemitism when you single out the Jews and apply a compass or a barometer that you don't apply to anyone else.
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Do you think some of these influencers that are playing into that, do they do they do so ignorantly because they're blinded by whatever is being offered? Or is it just because of it's a personal belief that they have themselves?
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I don't know. I mean, you take a guy like Tucker or Candace. I mean, we came to admire these people for other reasons, right? Candace wasn't doing Blexit. She's taking on Affirmative Action and DEI, and I would speak at her events. And Tucker came to fame very much because he was talking about COVID. He was talking about the police state and the deep state. He was showing a certain amount of guts in dealing with Fox News. But what I'm saying is these people have now metamorphosed into really completely different people, where today Almost any issue you bring up, tariffs, they're going to circle it right back to the Mossad. It's going to come right back to Netanyahu. So the obsession is like so strange because they never used to be this way. And all I'm saying is, look, I'm on board with the old Tucker. I'm on board with the old Candace. But I'm not going to get on this bus.
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I think she's always been the same. She worked with Al Sharpton and used to dox conservatives. I think she's always been the always been the same. Tucker, I'm a little is confusing to me. And I wanted to go into this and then I'm going to get back to the book and the film, like, for instance, the text. that came out, these texts that Charlie Kirk was in this group text and they were talking about Israel and he was questioning donors. I mean, Dinesh, you know how this is. There are all kinds of advocacy groups out there and you deal with donors. I've seen this at other organizations that I've worked with. Donors expect to get something for their donations and it doesn't matter where they come from. But that doesn't mean that Mossad killed somebody.
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Dana, there's nothing more normal than what's going on here. When I was at the American Enterprise Institute, a lot of the donors were big businesses, right? And these guys were free market until it came to a subsidy for their corporation, and then they were totally in favor of it. And so the free market economists at AEI would be freaking out, and the president of AEI is caught between the donors and caught between his scholars. Every pastor has, you know, they'll have some sort of a little coterie of rich guys who give money to the church. He depends on these guys. And yet the congregation wants to do X and these people want to do Y. Very normal. Every politician gets donations from different groups. They want the politician to do X, but the constituents may want Y. So this tug of war is the most normal thing in the nonprofit world and in American politics. What's funny is they're acting as if Charlie Kirk was in some unique situation. What's going on here is you've got an older generation of Republican donors. By the way, not all of them Jews, not even the majority. Evangelical Christians who give him money are also pro-Israel. Republican businessmen who give money to Turning Point want nothing to do with anti-Semitism. So this was coming from an older, richer donor class that stretches across the entire Republican Party. And there's a kind of generational divide. And I think what was going on is Charlie was trying to navigate that divide. Again, perfectly normal thing to do. You run a youth organization, but the youth don't give you any money. You collect the money from the old people. So there it is. But to jump from that, just like you said, to therefore they killed him, suggests a certain type of derangement. I'm hard pressed to believe that there are otherwise intelligent people saying this kind of nonsense all over social media.
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That sounds like a psyop. It sounds like somebody who's trying to author a psyop and implement one. That's what they would say. I mean, you know, just to put on my tinfoil hat. OK, the Dragons Prophecy Film dot com. Very, very. It's I mean, it's based on the book. Incredibly compelling. And from this, because everything is just, you know, very it just feels very serendipitous the way that the timing for everything is. So where are we at in terms of peace in the Middle East, which I don't know if you can ever have that with Hamas being there. And it doesn't seem like there's enough motivation for Arab nations to kind of run them out the way that they need to. Last question for you. Where what is the future of all of this?
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Well, if you believe the Bible, this is not going to be solved in an ultimate sense. The Bible seems to imply that this will be a problem till the last days. However, I don't take that to mean that you can't make strategic progress. I think Trump is showing great creativity here. The very idea that you can come up with a plan and even get people to be somewhat close to putting their signatures on the page is a spectacular achievement. We haven't seen something like this before in your lifetime or in mine. So I think that there is, I'm hopeful, I'm not optimistic, but I'm hopeful that there will be some sort of a breakthrough here. And this film, which takes you into dark places, I mean, the first 10 minutes of the film, you're on the scene of October 7th. You're going to experience it in a way very few people have seen this footage, but it's right there in the film. It's going to take you into some dark places, but it ends on a note of spiritual restoration, of healing, and of renewal. And so that mood of the funeral service for Charlie Kirk, we need to come together, we need to recognize ultimately there are spiritual battles going on, we need to take the right side in those battles, God's side against the dragon. By the way, the dragon in the title is the devil. I am ultimately hopeful. And I think the fact that we are recognizing now the deeper spiritual roots of many of our culture's problems, this is an extremely wholesome and healthy development.
SPEAKER 16 :
There you go. Dinesh D'Souza, the website, thedragonsprophecyfilm.com. Congratulations on the film. It was good to talk with you. Good to see you. And I appreciate your reasoning out there in this social storm. It's incredibly important. I appreciate you. Thanks for joining me. We'll talk again soon.
SPEAKER 02 :
Thank you, Dana. Thank you very much.
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All right. Believe it or not, it's the Pope. Now, what he says here isn't stupid. What's stupid is that previously he's been political and inaccurate in that regard. Juan, let's just cut 17.
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Holy Father, President Trump has sent 400 National Guard troops to your city, Chicago.
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I prefer not to comment at this time about choices made, political choices within the United States.
SPEAKER 05 :
So earlier he talked about how somehow you're not pro-life if you're pro-death penalty. Very, um... political thing to say. Now he's sort of choosing not to be political anymore. I think he felt the fallout from that.
SPEAKER 16 :
Exactly. Yeah. Folks, that does it for us today. We have something special that we're going to present to you guys, a standalone here coming up. But have a great rest of your evening. I'll be back with you behind the mic tomorrow.

In this week's Washington Watch, Tony Perkins delves into the intense political maneuvers surrounding the government shutdown, now in its eighth day. Join Senate Majority Leader John Thune and Louisiana Attorney General Liz Merle as they discuss the government's standoff concerning COVID-era subsidies and the fight against unconstitutional rulings. Casey Harper also highlights how this impasse triggers delays, affecting thousands of flights and, consequently, many Americans. As negotiations intensify, will Democrats relent, or do Republicans hold the line in preserving financial integrity?
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From the heart of our nation's capital in Washington, D.C., bringing compelling interviews, insightful analysis, taking you beyond the headlines and soundbites into conversations with our nation's leaders and newsmakers, all from a biblical worldview, Washington Watch with Tony Perkins starts now.
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Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer and his staff are closely coordinating their government shutdown strategy with outside liberal groups. Backing down and helping fund the government like Schumer did in March is unacceptable, the groups have told his team.
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That was Senate Majority Leader John Thune earlier today accusing Democrat senators of yielding to pressure from leftist progressive groups. And the government shutdown is entering day eight. Welcome to this October 8th edition of Washington Watch. I'm your host, Tony Perkins. Thanks so much for tuning in. Well, coming up on today's program, negotiations between Hamas and Israel are gaining momentum and a deal may be reached by week's end. Alabama Senator Coach Tommy Tuberville joins me with the latest. Louisiana is suing the FDA over Biden era rules that expanded access to abortion pills. Attorney General Liz Merle will join me to explain why she says those rules defy the Dobbs decision and why she's suing the federal government. Well, flight delays are piling up for a third day as the government shutdown hits day eight. Nearly 10,000 flights were delayed Monday and Tuesday because of air traffic controller shortages. Major major roadblock in talks to reopen the government is the Democrats push to extend COVID error. Obamacare subsidies, which could then be used to fund abortion and gender transition procedures. Now this, along with other spending demands from Democrats, could stick taxpayers with a $1.5 trillion bill. So Republicans, as of yet, are not going along with it. Joining me now is Washington Stand reporter Casey Harper, who's been following today's main stories. So Casey, let's start with this. Are Americans starting to feel the government shutdown?
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah, Tony, they absolutely are. They're feeling the fallout from Congress not being able to make a deal. Thousands of flights have already been delayed, and the situation, it's only going to get worse if the government doesn't reopen soon. The FAA in particular is short-staffed, which is causing this widespread chaos at these airports. Republicans, they say Democrats are to blame for refusing to end the shutdown while insisting on those costly, unnecessary COVID-era subsidies.
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Many Democrats in this chamber, by the way, I want to note, are going to receive paychecks this month while the men and women of the US Capitol Police who are protecting them will not. Here's another headline from the New York Post. Aviation groups warn a government shutdown will delay aircraft safety inspections.
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So Speaker Mike Johnson, he says Democrats are holding the country hostage to protect those subsidies. Two Senate votes to reopen the government today failed once again. And meanwhile, troops, they're not going to get paid and travel problems will keep piling up, Tony.
SPEAKER 07 :
All right. Thanks, Casey. Actually, later in the program, we're going to dive a little deeper into the government shutdown with Wisconsin Senator Ron Johnson. But let me emphasize this. The covid era Obamacare subsidies that Democrats want to extend. It bypasses the Hyde Amendment, allowing taxpayer funds to be used for abortions. And of course, the Family Research Council is leading the effort to remove those provisions and put the Obamacare provisions under the Hyde. And we're going to talk about that a little bit later when FRC's Kena Gonzalez joins me. Now, turning to another topic, law and order here at home. Casey, what's the latest news coming out of the Windy City?
SPEAKER 19 :
Well, Tony, Texas National Guard troops have arrived outside of Chicago. Now, Illinois Governor J.B. Pritzker, he blasted President Trump's decision to deploy those National Guard troops to his city.
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Let me be clear. Donald Trump is using our service members as political props and as pawns in his illegal effort to militarize our nation's cities.
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So far, ignoring legal arguments from Democrats, a judge recently cleared the deployment. Now, President Trump, he says if the governor won't act, he will. He argues troops are there to protect the federal agents during immigration crackdowns. And of course, they have been the target of a lot of harassment. But Trump also slammed Mayor Johnson and Governor Pritzker. He says they failed to protect those ICE officers and even said they should go to jail. But the president's perspective here, it's clear. He says he's stepping in where local leaders won't, Tony.
SPEAKER 07 :
All right, let's go to the Middle East, Casey. What's the latest on the Israel-Hamas negotiations that are underway in Egypt?
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Well, peace talks to end the war in Gaza, they are gaining momentum. Speaking at a White House event on the surge of left-wing violence, President Trump said that a Middle East peace deal is actually close.
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They're doing very well. We have a great team over there, great negotiators, and they're Unfortunately, great negotiators on the other side also. But it's something I think that will happen, got a good chance of happening. I may go there sometime toward the end of the week, maybe on Sunday.
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Hamas has submitted lists for a potential hostage prisoner swap, and Turkey, they say the negotiations are making progress. Now, Jared Kushner and Israeli Minister Ron Dermer, they've joined the talks in Egypt, and they're supporting President Trump's 20-point peace plan, which includes a ceasefire and a path to Gaza's post-war future. Israel, they've scaled back their military offensive, but the fighting does continue despite President Trump calling for an end to airstrikes. But these key questions still remain, Tony, including who's going to govern Gaza and will Hamas actually lay down their weapons?
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Well, those are big questions that have to be answered. Casey, thanks so much for updating us. Thanks, Tony. Well, joining me now to discuss the Middle East and more is Senator Coach Tommy Tuberville of Alabama. He serves on several Senate committees, including the Armed Services Committee. Coach, welcome back to Washington Watch. Thanks so much for joining us.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, Tony, how are you doing? Hey, could I throw something in on your background? Obamacare debacle that we're going through right now and the air traffic controllers. There's about 500 of them the last two days that have come out. They're sick and they just can't go to work. That's out of 20,000 or so. I talked to the FAA director today. It's not a problem as we speak, but people need to go to work. At the end of the day, we need to privatize the air traffic control system. This doesn't need to happen again, but I just want to let you know, I've talked to the FAA director and things are going fine unless we just have a major walkout. And what happened last time a major walkout happened? Ronald Reagan fired them all. But there was a lot less at that time.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, and I wouldn't put that past Donald Trump as president to do the same.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, I totally agree. You know people need to do their job. Quit worrying about politics and do their job. You know you you you understand a lot of this. You know Obamacare has been a disaster for the American people and we're trying to. Put a face to it up here, you know, a little at a time, trying to make sure it works with American people. But that was a huge debacle back in 2012 and Democrats own that. And so they're trying to blame it all on the Republicans now, but it is a Democrat problem from day one.
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Well, and what they're wanting is these huge subsidies that were given out during covid that were set to expire in December of this year. They want to extend those. And of course, the conversation I had on the Hill with you and your colleagues today was the fact that this funds abortion. This goes all the way back to President Obama. They skirted the Hyde Amendment and this. There's no way I could see the Republicans supporting something that would not only add $1.5 trillion to the nation's debt, but fund abortion.
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Yeah, well, first of all, if you look at the whole deal here, there's a tremendous amount of fraud. There's a tremendous amount of people that are that are illegals that are on this. That takes billions of dollars, so that's where it all starts. I'm glad you brought up the Hyde Amendment. They're looking for any possible way that they can fund abortion and transgender surgeries and and all that nonsense. But the bottom line too is insurance companies had to have to get skin in the game here. These insurance companies are one that's making all the money. And come up with some more plans. Insurance companies, get out there and do your job. Come up with more plans where people can afford health care. And people need to have skin in the game when it comes to everybody in the country, whether it's $5 or $10 a week. You know, if you've got skin in the game, we know that it's not fraud. And we understand, you understand it. Hey, this is pretty important. So, I mean, this is a time bomb waiting to go off. But it's been waiting to go off.
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FOR YEARS SINCE OBAMACARE STARTED BUT WHEN THE GOVERNMENT PAYS THE BILL NOBODY REALLY CARES IF THERE'S FRAUD IN THE PROCESS AND AND THAT'S WHAT WE'VE SEEN UNCOVERED A LOT OF THAT ALL RIGHT SENATOR I WANT TO MOVE ON TO THE ISSUE OF ISRAEL HAMAS THE NEGOTIATIONS NEWS OUT TODAY THAT COULD BE COULD BE SEEING A DEAL BY THE END OF THE OF THE WEEK
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Yeah, this is really been unfortunate. What two years yesterday or you know of the of the massacre that we had in in in got right outside of Gaza in Israel. What a what a tough time it's been for the Israelis that you keep hearing about. You know Israel is where they're killing all these. These these innocent people in Gaza. I just want to bring up one point. What about the 10,000 Christians that have been killed this year in Nigeria by Islamic terrorists? Nobody says anything about that. Nobody says anything other than, oh, we gotta protect these Palestinians. Listen, I don't want anybody dead. I don't want anybody killed, but I want everybody to have a fair opportunity. President Trump came up with a great 20 point plan. And I hope that the Hamas looks at this and understands this is probably your last chance. President Trump, I think, thinks it's pretty strong that they might agree to something on this. And he mentioned he might go to the Middle East this weekend. That means that they're getting close to it. But finally, the Europeans are falling in on this and saying, let's get this thing over with. we can't really count on them very often but again there's a two-headed sword here uh we we got to look at christians too the same way that we're looking at gaza and we got to start protecting christians across this world because the islamic extremism right now is running rampant all over the world and it's coming to a theater near you here in the united states
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Well, you mentioned Nigeria. It's a country we've tracked very closely. Back during the previous Trump administration, when I served on the US Commission on International Religious Freedom, Secretary Pompeo actually designated Nigeria as a country of particular concern. The Obama or the Biden administration took that off. We're waiting to see if this administration, the second Trump administration, will designate them as a country of particular concern that could allow for sanctions and other tools to make religious freedom an important aspect of our foreign policy with them.
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Yeah, you know nobody likes for the United States to just jump in at every every battle or every war. It seems like in your in my lifetime, Tony, we've always done that, but we protect people at the end of the day. These people are unarmed. They have no hope. And again, they're Christians and they're being targeted by a group of people that want to take this world over and we have got to start talking about it. We've got to understand it. People have got to believe that hey, we cannot allow this to happen. I tell anybody, but it's a mass slaughter over there and I would hope you would continue to talk about it and the whole world would start to talk about it more and we can get a stop to this massacre that they're having over there.
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Well, we won't stop talking about it till it's resolved. Senator, we just have about a minute, a little over a minute left. You were one of eight Republican senators and a member of Congress that was targeted by the FBI during the Biden administration under Arctic Frost, the Arctic Frost investigation. What do we know about that?
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Well, we didn't know anything about this until we had a briefing yesterday. with the eight of us were called to a briefing by Dan Bongino on Tuesday, walked in, had no clue what it was about and come to find out whistleblowers are starting to sing Tony all over these agencies. And so this is just one area here that said, listen, you had senators that were monitored and their phone records were released by AT&T and Verizon. And it was all because of Jack Smith. This guy shouldn't be able to get a job as a dog catcher. I mean, this is what the Democrats have done. They have gone after Republicans so much that they feel like they're above the law. And enough's enough of this nonsense. Let's start putting people in jail.
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Well, and we've got to make sure it doesn't happen again.
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Right.
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Because if not, we'll see a leftist administration get back in and they'll just pick up where they left off. It's so important. It'll be all. Coach, always great to see you. Thanks so much for joining us today.
SPEAKER 03 :
All right, Tony. God bless. Thank you.
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All right, folks, a couple of items there to be praying about, praying about these negotiations between Israel and Hamas to make sure that Israel is safe. Hamas is removed. Very, very important. And of course, the Christians in Nigeria. All right, don't go away. We're back after this.
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Three years ago, the Supreme Court issued its historic Dobbs decision, a ruling that overturned Roe versus Wade, which for nearly 50 years imposed abortion on demand, silencing voters and bypassing the democratic process across the country. The Dobbs decision was a huge step forward against abortion, but it didn't outright ban it. It returned the power to the people. Now, 29 states have laws on the books protecting life. However, there's a catch. Abortion numbers since Dobbs have actually gone up with an increase of 12% since 2020, climbing from 930,000 to over 1 million in each of the most recent years. So how can this be? The answer is simple, the abortion drug. Today, over 60% of US abortions involve abortion drugs, many of these without medical oversight. In 2021, the Biden administration quietly removed bare minimum longstanding safety protocols for the abortion drug that have existed for 20 years to protect women from life-threatening risks and ensuring informed consent. The Biden DOJ then declared that they would not enforce the Comstock Act, which prevents the mailing of anything that causes an abortion. This is not only illegal, but also dangerous. A study shows nearly 11% of women who take the abortion drug end up in the emergency room with serious complications. Unless the Trump administration reverses these reckless Biden-era policies, pro-life laws will remain largely symbolic. Without a full review and repeal of Mifepristone, unborn lives will remain in grave danger and pregnant mothers will remain at risk. Let's stand for life and end this mail order abortion drug pipeline. Sign the petition urging the Trump administration to take action at frc.org slash stop chemical abortion.
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Well, Tony, hope you're doing well. And let me apologize for having to leave lunch before I heard you speak. I heard you did a great job reminding the Republican conference that Obamacare pays for abortions. And if we extend these temporary COVID enhanced subsidies, basically we're throwing money at a failed healthcare system, but also throwing money at a system that funds abortions. That's an incredibly important point to make. And I'm so glad that you came to the Republican conference in the Senate and made that point to my colleagues.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, thank you, Senator. And it's important to point out that Republicans have never voted for those. So why would they vote for him now?
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, just under pressure. We've got some members that get a little weak in the knee when Democrats tell lies. But we need to keep reminding the public that, first of all, the reason health care costs are higher, particularly in the individual market, is because Obamacare. Even the Washington Post admitted that the problem with the Affordable Care Act is it was never affordable. Remember, that was the 2013 lie of the year. If you like your health care plan, you can keep it. If you like your doctor, you can keep it. No, you lost your health care plan, you lost your doctor, and insurance rates on the individual market in particular skyrocketed. So it's a failed system. Why would anybody want to throw more money at it? And why would Republicans agree to do what Democrats didn't do when they're in the same position? They're the ones that had these temporary pandemic enhanced premiums expire. Right. Why would we say, OK, we're not now because you're going to, you know, engage in these kind of falsehoods and lies and try and win the election based off this issue. And now we're supposed to throw money at this at your failed health care policy. I don't think so.
SPEAKER 07 :
You know, Senator, you come from a business background, so you bring a little too much common sense to the process here in Washington. Something doesn't work, you get rid of it or you fix it. That's the right thing to do. But here you just throw more money at it. I mean, that's what we've seen year after year. And so you even have some of your colleagues, as you said, are getting a little concerned. We might have to do something. Let's address the underlying problem. It doesn't work.
SPEAKER 05 :
And I appreciate President Trump had a tweet saying, we're happy to help you fix your failed Obamacare health care system. OK, and I would love to repair the damage done by Obamacare and transition to a system that works. But unfortunately, Obamacare got rid of things like high risk pools, which weren't perfect, but could have been tweaked to cover people with pre-existing conditions. But the real problem with Obamacare, one of them, is that it's forcing, because it got rid of high-risk pools, it's forcing the small percentage of Americans on individual policies to bear the full cost of covering everybody with pre-existing conditions. So, again, it's just a completely faulty model, but it's successful from a standpoint of what Democrats wanted. They wanted to move to a single-payer system. They got more people now on these Obamacare policies. They're taking care of them through Medicaid, forcing out disabled children. resulting in these provider fees. I mean, that scam, that fraud, that is really having the federal government hemorrhage hundreds of billions of dollars a year. And quite honestly, now states and hospital systems are basing their budget model on this $9 to $1 match. So, Senator.
SPEAKER 07 :
You've laid out the case. You've got Democrats that want essentially $1.5 trillion over the next 10 years to continue these temporary premium subsidies that came about because of COVID. They want to continue those. Republicans have never voted for this before. Number one, because the underlying issue, Obamacare is a failed government system. It funds abortion. It is outside of Hyde. So what's the off ramp? How does the government get opened back up?
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, the House gave them the off-ramp. They passed a clean CR at Biden's funding levels. They voted for Biden's funding levels. They voted for CRs in the past. So what's the problem now? The other better solution is pass the Eliminate Shutdown Act. We offered that. Every Democrat voted against it. Unfortunately, we had Republican appropriators vote against it as well. They said it undercut the appropriation process. Let me just describe the process they're saying I'm undercutting with the Eliminate Shutdown Act. I've been here 15 years. We should have passed 180 appropriation bills before the start of the fiscal year. You know how many we passed on time? Six. That's a 96.7% failure rate And as dysfunctional as this looks, and it is dysfunctional, but it's also a very well-homed process on the part of the big spenders on both sides of the aisle, the uniparty, take us up against these deadlines, Thanksgiving, Christmas, or whatever, you know, create all this anxiety. And listen, there will be people being harmed by shutdowns. Just to force people to vote on a multi-thousand page omnibus spending bill. Nobody reads that spends money we can't afford. That's the game that's being played right now. It's ridiculous. We could end it. And the best way to end it is not another temporary CR. Just vote for the Eliminate Shutdowns Act. It just sets up. automatic 14-day rolling continuing appropriations until that department or all of government gets funded again you don't shut anything down just spend it last year's level what could be more common sense but again the only reason they're not doing it is because they want to preserve the appropriation process like i said that's got a 96.7 failure rate in the 15 years i've been here right go figure
SPEAKER 07 :
Senator, 30 seconds left. Do you foresee a positive outcome like you've just described, that people come to their senses and say, you know, we got to do things differently?
SPEAKER 05 :
with enough pressure, hopefully. And by the way, one thing I forgot to mention about the zero premium policies, that has allowed tens of billions of dollars to flow directly to the insurance companies for policies people don't even know they have because unscrupulous agents are signing people up, they collect the commission, the insurance companies get the premiums, tens of billions of dollars on policies that aren't even used. Anybody voting to extend those enhanced premiums are voting to extend that.
SPEAKER 07 :
That fraud. Outrageous. Senator Johnson, always great to see you. Folks, stick with us. We're back with more after this.
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Welcome back to Washington Watch. All right. The state of Louisiana, my home state, has filed a lawsuit against the Food and Drug Administration over the agency's unlawful removal of the in-person requirement for the abortion drug Mifeprestone. We've been talking about this for a while. Now, this took place during the Biden administration back in 2023, and it was after the Dobbs decision, and it was done to undermine Dobbs. Now, you may recall that after the Dobbs decision that overturned the infamous Roe v. Wade ruling, the Biden administration kicked into high gear to do everything it could to increase access to abortion. Now, the removal of the FDA's in-person requirement was one such action perhaps the most devastating one as it facilitated the trafficking of these abortion drugs into states with pro-life laws that outlawed them but they sent them in through the mail but thankfully there are those fighting back such as louisiana's attorney general liz murrell who joins me now by phone general welcome back to washington watch thanks for joining us well thanks for having me tony it's always good to be with you So there are at least two issues at play here. The most obvious is the health and safety of women and their unborn babies. The second issue is the rule of law and the right of states. Explain why you, as the Attorney General of Louisiana, had to file a lawsuit against the federal government.
SPEAKER 02 :
Well, you know, there's been this dramatic increase in people, groups, organizations, doctors in other states mailing these pills to women in our state where that is illegal, and then us not being able to hold them accountable for that conduct. And in several occasions we've seen women being coerced to take these pills and, you know, an abortion occurring or a miscarriage in the sense that they're not consenting after they take these pills. And it's just a problem that's being perpetuated by the FDA's continuing to allow these pills to not be subject to the protocols that they used to be subject to. And so when the Biden administration withdrew the REMS protocols, it allowed basically for anybody to send them anywhere. And it's a huge problem. There was never any actual justification for removing those protocols. In fact, quite the opposite happened. It's very dangerous for women.
SPEAKER 07 :
Did they follow the proper means of changing those rules governing Mifeprestone?
SPEAKER 02 :
So I think the answer to that is no, but I want to explain it a little bit. They did go through the administrative process of publishing their intent to withdraw these rules and withdrawing the rules, but it was entirely arbitrary to for them to do so. The data has always been there that this is dangerous for women. That's why the REMS protocols were in place in the first place. Women can get sepsis if they have a partial abortion. That happens in a significant number of these cases. There is all kinds of other risks for women. You can have an ectopic pregnancy, which is not addressed when you take these pills. That can cause you to rupture one of your fallopian tubes. It can cause death, and it has been documented to cause death and hemorrhaging. So there's all kinds of contraindications. Also, for women to not take these pills, that's why you were required to see a doctor, have an ultrasound, and also have some follow-up care if, in fact, you were using these even if it was to manage a miscarriage.
SPEAKER 07 :
So, General, how do they have follow-up care if a doctor in New York or California is sending abortion pills into Louisiana or Texas or Mississippi? How can that woman have interaction with that doctor?
SPEAKER 02 :
They don't. There is no care here, none whatsoever. This is flat-out drug dealing. It's not a question of You know, there is no doctor-patient relationship whatsoever. These are people who are writing these prescriptions and sending them to anybody who asks. Don't know where they're going, and there is no relationship, period.
SPEAKER 07 :
So let's talk about the breadth and depth of this problem. In the lawsuit that you filed this week, one of the points is you state that based on the abortion industry's own numbers, somewhere between 617 abortions to 800 abortions. per month are being done through abortion pills. These abortion pills are being sent into the state anywhere from 600 to 800. That's actually more than the average of abortions that were performed monthly prior to the overturn of Roe in Louisiana, which was at about 600.
SPEAKER 02 :
Well, that's right. And that's partly because the REMS protocols required tracking of the manufacturers had to track, they had to have a contract with a doctor that prescribed these medications, and they had to comply with these elevated FDA rules, and which required in-person dispensing, an ultrasound, and post-care. So, you know, all of those things meant you needed a person, individual personal relations doctor. You don't have that anymore, and it is illegal to use those pills here for an abortion. So every one of those are illegal abortions being practiced in our state without any medical supervision whatsoever. It is extraordinarily dangerous.
SPEAKER 07 :
Have you heard from the FDA since you filed your suit this week?
SPEAKER 02 :
No, we have not. I presume that's partly because of the government shutdown. But, you know, what was baffling was that they found the time, even facing an impending government shutdown, to approve generic drugs in this space, even after they have admitted that the Biden administration rule was arbitrary and capricious and unfounded and unsupported by the data. So I don't understand how that happened. I really don't. I think that the White House seemed to be poised to and HHS seemed to be poised to withdraw the Biden administration rules. And then the FDA turned around and approved a generic you know, right on the tail of admitting that the Biden rules were arbitrary. And so I don't I don't know why that happened. It shouldn't have happened.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, hopefully this will get their attention and get something done to protect women, babies and the rule of law. General Merle, always great to talk with you. Thanks for joining us. Stick with us, folks. We're back with more after this.
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This is Washington Watch. I'm Tony Perkins. I want to encourage you to join us October 17th and 18th. That's next week in California for our powerful gathering of Pray, Vote, Stand. It's not just an event. It's an encounter. Find out more. Go to PrayVoteStand.org. You can register. Find out more. PrayVoteStand.org. All right. Before I go on, I want to throw something out here. I really need your help on this. I have a poll question for you. I've done this in a while. But I'm under the impression, just based on emails I get, conversations I have, that a lot of people felt like when Roe was overturned that the abortion issue was resolved. And so I'd like to see what you think. You know, was this issue put behind us? Are you surprised by the fact that there are more abortions today than there were before Roe was overturned? Yeah, I know a lot of you that listen to this program a lot, you're informed and educated, but for the most part, people are surprised by this. I'd like to know your thoughts. Text the word poll, that's P-O-L-L, to 67742. That's poll to 67742, because your answer will be helpful. All right, our word for today comes from 2 Corinthians 5. Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation. Old things have passed away. Behold, all things have become new. Now, all things are of God, who has reconciled us to himself through Jesus Christ and has given us the ministry of reconciliation. That is, that God was in Christ reconciling the world to himself, not imputing their trespasses to them, and has committed to us the word of reconciliation. Now then, we are ambassadors for Christ. As though God were pleading through us, we implore you on Christ's behalf, be reconciled to God. What a remarkable truth. Through Christ, God not only forgives our sins, but completely transforms us, making us into new creations. The old life marked by separation from God is gone. A new life of purpose and peace begins. But this new life isn't meant to be kept to ourselves. God has entrusted us with the same ministry of reconciliation that brought us home to him. As ambassadors for Christ, we are his representatives sent to share the good news that others too can be restored to a right relationship with their creator. To find out more about our journey through the Bible, text Bible to 67742. That's Bible to 67742. All right, we often talk about the abortion drug and how it's a threat to women and unborn babies. And it is, and I'm gonna continue to talk about it until it's resolved. And I think we're making some progress, okay? But there's another aspect that doesn't get as much attention, and that is the potential threat that it poses to all of us. Now, some would say, well, you know, I'm not going to get an abortion. That's going to affect somebody. The abortion pill is affecting all of us. The threat is in the water supply. Therefore, the people who rely on it, that's you and me, are going to be impacted. Now, earlier this summer, we highlighted a newly released research paper that raised a national alarm over the potential harm that abortion drugs are creating for the rest of us when that hazardous medical waste, including human remains, are being flushed into the water system. That's what happens when the abortion drug is used, Mifeprestone. With the use of the abortion drug rapidly increasing, are we seeing the amount of movement that we need to see to address this issue? Joining me now to discuss this, John Stemberger, president of Liberty Council Action and one of the authors of the paper titled, Abortion in Our Water, Chemical Home Abortions and the Disposition of Aborted Fetal Remains. John, welcome back to Washington Watch. Thanks for joining us.
SPEAKER 20 :
Thanks, Tony. Appreciate you having us on the show.
SPEAKER 07 :
All right. For those that have not seen the paper or not aware of your research paper, give them a brief overview of what you did and what you found.
SPEAKER 20 :
Sure, we have developed a 38-page academic paper with 336 footnotes. It's the most exhaustive paper that we know that exists. And it's basically documenting the widespread contamination of our water from 700,000 women who are being instructed by abortion providers to deliver their babies in the toilet, which then goes and is processed or not processed by local city sewer water plants. and the contamination is there from not just the biohazard waste, which Students for Life estimates somewhere between 40 to 60 tons annually of waste is going into our water supply, but also mithopristone, which is not an organic, drug. It doesn't dissolve in the body like a Tylenol would. It has a synthetic drug. It has a half-life. So its therapeutic effect continues on after it exits the woman's body and continues on in the water. And query whether or not, um, The amounts of the micro doses of mithopristone that we're bathing in or drinking or what have you in our water supply, which is not being removed at all by normal water treatment plants, are affecting our infertility rate because people are getting micro doses of this. It could be affecting miscarriages, could be affecting the infertility rate. And actually, there's just a lot of questions we don't even know, Tony, because the EPA is not studying this. The FDA is not studying. The government is spending all this money studying nonsense we've seen in the Doge reports, but they're not doing anything to study the real problem that could be affecting our vital infertility rate.
SPEAKER 07 :
So even though this information is out there, this concern that this is not, as you said, breaking down, it's not getting taken out, it's not taken out by the filtration systems. And we see this increase. In fact, the administration addressing this increase in infertility, wanting to promote IVF, it looks almost as if it's a vicious cycle, that we're providing this abortion pill, it's killing babies, it's going into our water system, and it's preventing people that want to become pregnant from becoming pregnant because it's affecting fertility.
SPEAKER 20 :
This is a major problem. We are pleased with the fact that the second Maha report, Make America Healthy Again report, did include suggestions to the EPA that they could and kind of released them to study pharmaceutical contamination of the water supply. Very encouraging. Another place in the Maha report, the second Maha report dealing with children, also dealt with infertility and talked about the research that needs to be done of what's causing infertility. So these are very big deals. We're going to be following up with the EPA now that they have clearance from the government to do this, and they really need to study this. I mean, it's outrageous. If a hospital was dumping biohazard waste of any type regularly as a matter of course into their toilets, Instead of properly disposing of it, as they should, it would be a national scandal. But yet the entire abortion industry is getting away with instructing mothers to just deliver dead babies in the toilet without regard to this. And the problem is when this was all approved in the year 2000, it was a very small percentage of overall abortions. So they estimated in their very weak environmental analysis, which really wasn't analysis at all, that, oh, yeah, it's going to be minimal impact. Well, now we're talking about almost 70% of all abortions are these chemical abortions. So the amount of impact of both the biohazard waste from the unborn babies in the toilets and in the water supply eventually through city water treatment plants and also the methopristone is exponentially more. And you've got things even like these most recent generic approval of the drugs that's going to increase the amount of biohazard waste and the increase of the drug in the water supply.
SPEAKER 07 :
Final question for you, John Stemberger. So is it treated differently because it's abortion and that's why we're not seeing more movement on it?
SPEAKER 20 :
Well, that's exactly right. They're studying microplastics. The EPA can switch and study any chemical in the water. But for some reason, we know that reason. This is just a sacrosanct issue. Whenever you touch abortion, the rules are always different. So proper environmental analysis, we're not done. Oversight's not being done. But even though the president is unfortunately in favor of chemical abortions, we are asking them to at very minimum study this. You can't ignore it. President Trump himself, five different speeches, Tony, he said, I want crystal clear drinking water. Well, you can't have crystal clear drinking water if you have contamination from chemical abortions in the water supply.
SPEAKER 07 :
John, how can people find a copy of see a copy of your report?
SPEAKER 20 :
Yeah. So go to abortion in our water dot org abortion in our water dot org. And there's all kinds of resources. There's videos, interviews. There's memes you can post on social media. There's a one pager that explains everything in one page with diagrams. Or if you really want to dig deep, you can go into the academic research paper. That's 38 pages long.
SPEAKER 07 :
All right. John Stenberger, always great to see you. Thanks for joining us.
SPEAKER 20 :
Thank you, Tony.
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All right, folks, you can weigh in on this as well. All right. We need the Trump administration to take immediate action and decisive action to end this Biden era policy that allows these dangerous abortion drugs to be mailed across state lines, as the attorney general in Louisiana was just talking about. Sign our petition by texting the word LIFE to 67742. That's LIFE to 67742. I'm meeting with senators and we're planning, we're working on this. We are not going to let go of this. This is too important as we see abortion rates rising in this country. And that's after God answered our prayers and overturned Roe. I mean, think about that for a moment. The grace extended to us to get back on the right track and be a nation that embraces life. And here we are trampling on it. I mean, I talk about cheap grace. We're trampling on God's grace to get this nation back where we need to be. So text the word life to 67742. Okay, I want to continue on this conversation, but I want to go back to another topic, and that is what we talked about earlier with Senator Johnson, and actually Senator Tuberville got in on that conversation as well, and that is how we're battling the life issue on multiple fronts. Again, I think many people thought it was over. That row overturned. Hey, we're doing well. Not so. Obamacare, which is at the center of this government shutdown, is... probably one of the strongest bastions of government-provided abortions that we see today. Joining me now to talk about this is Kena Gonzalez, who is the Senior Director of Government Affairs here at the Family Research Council. And he joined me earlier today up on Capitol Hill as we briefed senators on the issues related to the ACA. Kena, thanks for joining me.
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Great to be here.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right. So at the center of it, it's kind of interesting, quite frankly, that the Democrats have chosen to put the Affordable Care Act and its abortion funding, gender transition surgery providing measure at the center of the government shutdown.
SPEAKER 21 :
It's almost like there's a spiritual dynamic to what's going on in Washington, Tony.
SPEAKER 20 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 21 :
So what's at play, humanly speaking, on Capitol Hill? Democrats are demanding extensions of Affordable Care Act subsidies that were put in place originally to help people to afford health care under the Affordable Care Act and then boosted majorly under COVID.
SPEAKER 07 :
Because they couldn't afford affordable care.
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And the truth is that America can't afford to keep subsidizing abortion and gender transition procedures.
SPEAKER 07 :
This goes all the way back to the beginning. This is what I shared with senators today on Capitol Hill. And I was here back in 2009, 2010 when Obamacare was adopted. It almost failed. It almost did not pass because of abortion.
SPEAKER 21 :
That's right.
SPEAKER 07 :
And it wasn't the Republicans. It was the Democrats, pro-life Democrats. We don't have those anymore. But they were opposed to it. So President Obama issued an executive order saying that, well, OK, Hyde will apply to this. They already had a provision in here, Section 1301 or 3? Section 1303, which said, all right, there's going to be a separate dollar that's paid every month if you want abortion coverage. Well, the Democrats knew that that was a fraudulent gimmick. It wasn't going to keep the government out of the abortion business, so they said that's not good enough. So the president then issued that executive order, which later we found out was totally fraudulent, false, did not stop abortion. The government accounting office has followed up on this. They found that this so-called accounting scheme – isn't even being put in place in most states.
SPEAKER 21 :
In many states, it's not being followed. And there's really no accountability to the government on whether it is being followed. Unfortunately, we know one state that's following it, Maryland, just passed a law. They're actually taking that dollar that people are paying extra every month for abortion coverage and setting it aside. And now they're going to use it to bring in people from out of state, from people from pro-life states who are seeking abortion. So if your state protects life, you can go to Maryland on Maryland's dollar.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, taxpayers' dollar.
SPEAKER 21 :
Maryland taxpayers' dollar.
SPEAKER 07 :
So what is happening is that states that have, about 25 states that have laws protecting the unborn, and so abortion is illegal in that state, their tax dollars are funding the abortion in other states.
SPEAKER 21 :
That's right. Living in a pro-life state does not insulate you as a taxpayer from underwriting abortion and gender transition procedures in other states.
SPEAKER 07 :
Now, 15 years later... it's even worse.
SPEAKER 21 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 07 :
Because it's not just abortion that taxpayers are being forced to fund through Obamacare. It's also these gender transition procedures on minors.
SPEAKER 21 :
That's right. As a matter of fact, the largest provider of Obamacare health care plans proclaims proudly on their website that they consider, the insurance company considers gender transition procedures necessary care that has to be covered by their insurance plans. And states like Colorado and California are using taxpayer dollars from all over the country to fund gender transition procedures in their states.
SPEAKER 07 :
Now, the federal government under the Trump administration has said that gender transition procedures are not medically necessary.
SPEAKER 21 :
Correct.
SPEAKER 07 :
But that does not keep states from still spending their money that's allocated to them by the federal government on that.
SPEAKER 21 :
What the executive order from President Trump said is that states are not required to require gender transition procedures, but that does nothing to keep states like Colorado, California.
SPEAKER 07 :
So again, you have this division. You have half the states that are crazy, and they're funding abortion, and they're mutilating children, and you have the other half that's paying for it.
SPEAKER 21 :
But it's exactly right. If you're living in a pro-life, pro-child state, you need to know that your taxpayers are underwriting this insanity. Right.
SPEAKER 07 :
And that was the message we took to the senators today, and I think it got their attention.
SPEAKER 21 :
I think based on the lively discussion that ensued, I would say you're right. I think this is a problem that a lot of pro-life, pro-family senators see.
SPEAKER 07 :
So this, as there were some, as Senator Johnson made reference to earlier, that were kind of maybe leaning toward voting for this just to get the government back open, bad idea.
SPEAKER 21 :
It's really important that they understand the pro-life, pro-child stakes in this battle. This is not just a matter of extending health care benefits that would make it more affordable for people. Leaving aside all the waste, fraud, and abuse that we addressed earlier in the program, there's a pro-life, pro-child stake in this battle.
SPEAKER 07 :
We're back to where we started. It's a battle for life.
SPEAKER 21 :
Amen.
SPEAKER 07 :
Kami, thanks for joining me.
SPEAKER 21 :
Great to be here.
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In this episode, we delve into the controversy surrounding a Democratic candidate for Attorney General in Virginia, whose violent and disturbing text messages have recently come to light. This raises critical questions about political rhetoric, accountability, and the erosion of civil discourse, as prominent figures remain in support of the candidate despite the inflammatory comments.
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On today's show, state attorney general candidates, unhinged and disturbing texts rock the Democratic Party and so much more.
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Keeping you informed and engaged now more than ever. This is Sekulow. We want to hear from you. Share and post your comments or call 1-800-684-3110. And now your host, Logan Sekulow.
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Welcome to Sekulow Pact Show today. Jordan Sekulow in studio. Will Haynes in studio. We got Rick Grinnell coming up a little bit later. It's going to be a fun show, a packed show. And today we are talking about a Democrat candidate, Attorney General of the state of Virginia.
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Commonwealth. Commonwealth.
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Commonwealth of Virginia having to cancel some fundraisers today, having some issues as some text messages were released. Now look, we're not big fans of the whole cancel culture thing and all of that and what your private text may say or not say. However, when these are your private texts, I think the voting public probably should know. They should probably know that they are threatening violence and or murder
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of their political rivals will that's right so what we have here is a situation that it's a couple years old uh this was the text messages are when they were sent in 2022 and this candidate jay jones then he was a former delegate of the house uh the house of delegates in virginia which is their House of Representatives in their bicameral system. He used to represent Norfolk, Virginia, and he texted a former colleague who was a Republican, Kerry Koiner, who is still in the House of Delegates, about how upset he was that there were Republicans, including the Speaker of the House at the time, Todd Gilbert, were praising this moderate Democrat who had passed away. They were speaking very kindly of him and the way he worked. He was a longtime Democrat in the Virginia politics. And he said vile things, wishing that they were dead so he could desecrate their graves. I'll put it that, because I'm not going to say what he said.
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I would go one step further just to let people know how it's filed, though. Yeah, I think we go a little bit more. Okay. He said he would like to see the speaker's wife. To watch their two children be shot and executed in the head. Right. This guy. So policy could get changed. Is being supported by Senator Tim Kaine. I think that support alone disqualifies Tim Kaine from public office.
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Tim Kaine said something to the effect of, I don't agree with him on this.
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It's a disgusting comment, but you know why they don't? It's because early voting's already started.
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Well, and here's the deal. It started off with, I'm going to, I wish they would die so I could mess up their graves. And then when the Republican who he was texting pushed back, and said you know you shouldn't talk like that he went further he said if there were uh two bullets and three people hitler paul pott and the speaker of the house two of the bullets would go in the head of the speaker she pushed back on that and he said spoiler any of the worst people you can think in the speaker he still gets the two bullets she pushed back on that He called her. And I pushed back on it. I said, like, you're going too far. He said, you need to stop saying this. I don't like that you're texting this. This is disgusting. He called her to try to explain that conversation. We don't know the contents of, but has been reported was him just doubling down, trying to explain. They end up getting off the phone, and she said, on the phone, stop talking to me about this. You were saying you wished harm to his children, whom you know. You have met his wife and children. And he said, they're evil people. They're breeding little fascists. I wish that his wife had to hold his dying children... So he would change policy. And then he said the only way you get people to change their minds on policy is when they experience real pain.
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And they're trying to push back on this saying, oh, this was a long time ago, a full 36 months ago that this had happened. Don't pay attention to it. Not that this guy was well into his adulthood at this point. Phone lines are open for you. What do you think about this? We're also going to talk about some other topics coming up. We're talking about this for a few. It's just the... The rhetoric still rises, and of course now, even though he's a couple years old, this information gets out there. And what are you going to do with it? And this was during a Biden administration, so maybe you should have been a little cooler for this guy. 1-800-684-3110. 1-800-684-3110 to have your voice heard today. There's also some updates on Comey. There's some updates right now on the Palisades fire that's happening right now, which is pretty wild. We'll cover that and a few more things. Go to ACLJ.org if you can. Spend some time on there. We'll be right back. Welcome back to Secula. We've got to reset this. A lot of you are just joining us right now. We're talking about a candidate for Attorney General in the Commonwealth of Virginia. Now, you may wonder why that's important, why we're talking about it. We're talking mainly about the rhetoric that's coming out, and this was from leaked text messages. And again, a lot of people have said some crazy things in text messages. I don't know if this is funny. Could you maybe go with that?
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I don't think you can do that.
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That qualifier when it's tripling down on assassinations of people. A lot of people are going, oh man, I'm texting my buddies. You never know. Locker room talk. All those kind of things you've heard for years and years and years. That's not what this is. This is a guy who doubles and triples down as he's currently running for Attorney General of the Commonwealth of Virginia. Pretty historic spot to be running. And he is threatening violence. Very, very specific violence and desecration of the graves of his political rivals. This is disturbing. But, of course, what's happening right now is that no one seems to be able to disown this guy. He is canceled. a few of his fundraisers for tonight. But Tim Kaine, even, who has endorsed him, said, you know what, I don't like this rhetoric. I find it gross. However, he's still got my vote.
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So that's what every major Democrat in the state is saying. That's what the gubernatorial candidate is saying. She said that. That's what the head of the Democrat Party there said. That's what the leader of their house said. That's what the leader of their senate said. So the House of Delegates, the state senate. So this is kind of what I put forward. This idea that we will learn a lot if he stays in the race about violence and leftist voters, and honestly, Democrat voters. Because if they're okay with their leaders calling for us, calling for you, calling for conservatives because they have a different viewpoint on the Second Amendment, to have their children assassinated, executed in front of their mother, and then to desecrate their grave... And they're writing it to a Republican just three years ago, and now they're running to be the top law enforcement official in the state, in the Commonwealth of Virginia. This, to me, speaks broader to where the Democrat Party is when it comes to violence emanating from the left. It's an endorsement. If you are a bit crazy, it's an endorsement to go ahead and carry out this job.
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Well, and to that point as well, Jordan, there was an arrest made in D.C. It didn't make a ton of news, which is shocking. Just over the weekend, where the Supreme Court justices before the October term reopens, many of them go to what's known as Red Mass. It's at St. Matthew's Cathedral in D.C., And they go and have a mass. They partake in mass before the starting of the Supreme Court session. There was a man from New Jersey who had camped out on the steps of the church in a tent appearing to be homeless. I don't know if he was homeless indeed, but he traveled all the way to D.C. and had his tent packed with more than 200 explosives. Molotov cocktails, the same explosive ingredients concoction that was used in the Oklahoma City bombing, and was preparing to try and take out Supreme Court justices. This individual had writings that were anti-Supreme Court, anti-ICE, and against Jews. It was, once again, People whose ideology, they've been hearing what's coming from the left, and there are crazy people out there that will do crazy things. And when you have someone running for the Attorney General, the top law enforcement official in the state of Virginia, who's also made horrible statements about police in the past, and he's trying to be the top cop, he literally said, if you want fewer police shootings, more police need to die. That is who is running for the Commonwealth's Attorney General position. And has he had no response to any of this really yet? He did put a response out and said, you know, many of us regret. Like all people, I sent text messages. that I regret and I believe that violent rhetoric has no place in our politics. Let's be clear about what is happening in the Attorney General race right now. Jason Meares is dropping smears through Trump-controlled media organizations to assault my character and rescue his desperate campaign. This is a strategy that ensures Jason Meares will continue to be accountable to Donald Trump, not the people of Virginia. This race is about whether Trump can control Virginia or Virginians control Virginia.
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Jason Meares, who we're talking about as the Republican candidate, is the current Attorney General, so he has already won statewide election in the Commonwealth of Virginia. Two, yes, people say things in text messages they wouldn't want out. They don't say these kind of things. This kind of thing, if a high school kid said right now and was uncovered, their house would be raided. And they'd go to jail. Rightfully so. And if their parents didn't report it, the parents should be going to jail. And I think we'd all agree because that's not just blowing off steam when you keep doubling down and doubling down and tripling down on exactly what you'd like to see because of their political views. So the idea that, yes, no one would want all their text messages out. That's trying to compare, again, apples and oranges. We're talking about text messages about killing people. unelected innocent kids of the speaker don't know their political views but let's watch them die in front of their mother i would i would support that as they is what the current lead i mean he's the number two official he wants to be number two in the commonwealth of virginia he wants to be the top law enforcement yeah he's the candidate for one of the two parties in a state that goes blue all the time is elected We know a lot, we've now learned that mainstream Democrat voters are okay with this kind of rhetoric, which then all it takes is one person to carry this out.
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And it may be something that we can look into. You may know the answer. If he was to withdraw, because voting has already begun, You said early voting has begun. What does that look like for the Democrats? Are they put in between a rock and a hard place going, well, we have to run somebody or can they not run somebody? Because the decision, maybe we can just look into that coming up. I'm just curious. Because you may go, well, what are they going to do?
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You always have options for people to drop out because people get sick. People in office, they pass away in office or they resign because of issues. So there are safeguards in place here even with early voting. Now it tells you a lot about how they feel about how their campaign is going if they think that by him leaving they'd somehow lose because the early voting. I thought he's crushing the current candidate and let's say he is. I don't think that justifies endorsing him and covering him for this kind of rhetoric. When they attack Donald Trump for rhetoric that is not anywhere close to... Not even in the same ballpark. Because this is very much reality talk. This is a tough guy talk. This is like...
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It's not comedic. It's not vulgar.
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That's usually what people are talking about when they say the text is, you might have been in a text message you regret. Three years later, something vulgar, something personal. Again, that used to get people to have to drop out of politics.
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Well, you're just seeing me. You brought up this. The Palisades fire right now, they've made an arrest and they said that they found a lot of information through phone texts and through chat GPT records because the person had made images and they were able to see the images that they were creating, which again, tells you what you should be doing and not doing with AI. I think that's, you know, we got to make sure you're well aware of that. They were able to get those records and they seized over a million and a half records to find this person. But that's because of why? Because what they were doing online beforehand, I don't think it had to do with what they were doing in terms of Were they caught in the act?
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They definitely weren't caught in the act. Maybe it's security cameras and things like that, but this has been a long time now. So the idea here, again, that he even ran knowing that he had sent this to Republicans.
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And the police stuff was public?
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Yes. And that was a while ago. That controversy, he's already weathered. And so it's not even like this is a non-controversial figure. Which is a disgusting...
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ridiculous comment he could say you people could say that's not what i how i meant that i meant that people don't realize the violence and things like that so they have to experience their own community it wasn't the triple downing it's very different when you're calling for specific children who you know to be executed because they happen to be the Republican speaker's children.
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And here's the other caveat to this as well. And it's kind of the hubris of these people that feel like they can say these things and mean it. And when the person they're talking to is saying, please stop, like literally, please stop talking like this. This is not okay. Keeps going. that the the individual the republican delegate said i have sent screenshots of this to the speaker so he knows what you've said like it wasn't even at the time like oh my goodness it just you know i i can't believe that i didn't even know anyone would ever see that he knew that it had been shared with people and still thought and you know in this climate you know i can still run i'm i'm untouchable even if this comes out and maybe he's right he might be
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Yeah, I mean, I think, listen, end of the day, the Democrats are supporting him. Okay? I mean, I just want to make it clear. That's what I'm saying. He may be untouchable.
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When Tim Kaine was asked directly, should he drop out, he said no. Yeah.
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Yeah. Well, I mean, the idea to me, that kind of disqualifies... Tim Kaine plays like he's some moderate, in the middle, nice guy. I think we all know, if you even remember who he is, the senator, he... Did that on Saturday Night Live? Mm-hmm. He... Is OK with this kind of rhetoric? Would he be OK with a Republican senator that he serves with saying this about his own children?
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I mean, he technically won the popular vote to be the vice president.
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He would be OK with that. I mean, he'd be OK with saying these comments about not just him.
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the politician the one with views but his wife his children or grandchildren and he'd say you know what that person's that's a republican i understand it yeah we want to hear from you i want your response right now give me a call at 1-800-684-3110 we got a few lines open for you right now this would be a great time to call in and we'll get some of those comments coming up in the next segment that's at 1-800-684-3110 we'll be right back Welcome back to Seculo. I do want to take calls from you today, so give me a call at 1-800-684-3110. We've got about three lines open right now for you, so it's a great time to call in. Stay on hold. Give our phone screener a minute as phone lines are lining up right now. Let's start off with a call from Stacey, who is calling on line one, who's listening on SiriusXM. Stacey, go ahead.
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Hi. This is the first time I've ever called into the show. I've listened before, but today, the topic is, it just shows how far our society has come because our politicians actually reflect our culture. And unfortunately, we have a culture here in America that is so based on hate and anything that is against what we believe, oh, we have to attack. And unfortunately, you see this on Facebook, you see this on Twitter, people saying and doing things that they wouldn't normally say and do in person. And I think part of the problem is that we have a culture that thinks that they are immune to things because it's done behind a screen. And until we as a culture change our thought processes and change our thing of saying, hey, look, it's okay if you disagree with me. It doesn't make you evil. It just means that we have different perspectives. We will not change what our politicians do.
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Yeah, Stacey, I think you're right. When this rhetoric comes out, you know that this is not just an isolated incident. And you also know that the next years that followed this text thread did encourage violence that was happening against people. You are right. that being behind the screen, the keyboard warriors, if you will, as they've been called, we have lost that disconnect. We have lost a connection with our neighbors, with our friends, with human beings, because we all have had friends who are different political views, who are usually your good friends, your best friends. And when you're in person, that's a lot easier than when you're behind a screen and it's just you alone in a room getting fired up and the other person getting fired up and there's no real consequences to your actions. I think what we're honestly going to see is maybe this turnaround happened. I think this turnaround may happen as the increase increases. In the internet becoming a little bit harder to differentiate truth and fiction. We've seen this week alone, and this gets a way heady topic, the launch of a new platform for AI-generated video that is becoming very difficult to, without the watermarks, to understand what you're looking at is real or not. I think that could lead... to the turning off of a lot of these devices, to the turning off of these screens, to where maybe you actually start looking to your friends, looking to your neighbors again to have these conversations with, because you realize you're not talking to something that is real, that a lot of this is what we're gonna be occurring is going to be created. Even the comments from your friends, they have a button to click. Where an AI can, you know, you see that even on social already. It'll clean up your words. It will create the response for you. I accidentally clicked them and realized that I've put the weirdest responses up on people's text messages. I didn't even know I could report a text message. I found that out on accident the other day. There's a lot happening in this digital space that could eventually lead to that dead internet theory that will then maybe bring back society.
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Well, in another angle to this as well is the fact that why they're so concerned about this individual dropping out of the race is because of the early voting. Right. And this is a problem we've seen for years. But actually, today, there is a case before the Supreme Court that is about the meaning of Election Day, what's in the Constitution and how that's defined and whether candidates vote. can challenge the way that the state runs elections if it's kind of vague or outside of the bounds of what traditional election day is. That's BOST versus the Illinois State Board of Elections. We have an amicus brief up there with this case right now that's being heard by the Supreme Court today. So even in these periods of time that you're not really thinking about elections, Virginia is bizarre, obvious all the time because they have off cycle elections for their state offices. So it's not in a midterm. It's not in a major election year.
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They always want to be their own thing.
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Right. They do their own elections in, you know, odd numbered years. And it's different. So you're not normally thinking about this, but you are now. And we are always thinking about things like this. That is why we are filing in that Supreme Court case that's being heard today. The ACLJ doesn't stop. We don't stop thinking about the implications of small moves that states make. And then there's sometimes real big impact because when even Election Day, we all know what was the disaster of 2020. But when you start to see those things take hold and become precedent and take place over a longer course of time. you start to realize these little things make big impact. And so you have to fight them. You have to always be thinking about election day, even when most of the people in the country aren't. And so, Jordan, even that, we have to fight these things. And that's why you support the ACLJ, because the last thing you want to be thinking about right now is an election. But things like that have real consequences, especially even in this topic today.
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Children being executed in front of their mother. by a candidate that the entire democrat party in virginia including the gubernatorial candidate and uh one of their u.s senators is backing and until the candidate themselves canceled a fundraiser tomorrow night tim kane the senator was happy to still attend i would like to take this phone call because i think this opens up a whole different you know can of worms here if you will but michael's calling south carolina on serious xm michael go ahead
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Yes, I don't want to sound insensitive or a lack of compassion, but I have a legal question. And it comes from the concept of the Republicans doing a lot of talking but no action. And I'm not on either side, but if I had to pick, I would definitely be a Republican over a Democrat. But here's my question. If the government declares an organization, for example, a terrorist organization or a gang, why are we arresting them versus just killing them? like they do with the boats coming from Venezuela. Just blow them up.
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Okay. I think that's the last resort, right? I mean, it's hard. You want to take apart networks of terrorists. You want to capture them alive. They're very hard to capture alive, terrorists, when you're talking about kind of the traditional terrorism. These networks are underground. They're masked up. So the more of their people and leaders you can get, the more you're able to round up off the streets. The question he did put to the phone screen, which is, If you designate them as a terrorist organization, can you use violent actions? Of course, you could. And if they're shooting back, if they're going to be arrested because they planned an attack, of course, that's a tough situation.
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Well, and also a little bit of a nuance there as well. When you designate a foreign terrorist organization, that honestly just gives the appropriate measures for sanctions or people that do business. Financial sanctions. For when you think about the war on terror, just designating ISIS and Hamas and people like that or the Quds Force as terrorist organizations, that wasn't the authorization to use a military force. There still was the global war on terror authorization to use a military force. Yeah, I mean, it's a different situation. There's a lot of different... That's why I was saying... Some of the most nuanced... If they were in a violent situation with the police...
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It doesn't really matter if they're designated that way or not. What I was talking about more is you know that this person is a leader, you believe this person is a leader, and so you go to their house, knock, knock, or no knock, smash in. I mean, you have to be prepared for violence. But you don't want to use that, even if you could. It's not a good policy because you want to be able to take down the network. It's why cartel leaders... are usually taken alive if possible. Right. Like El Chapo. Even though he's gotten out those two times, it was better to have him alive and trying to get him to spill names to reduce or improve his situation.
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I did want to clarify real quick. That's not what the phone screener said that the call was going to be. So when I'm like, this will be an interesting segue. Not the segue I was expecting. You're just protecting yourself. Yes, I am. I'm not like, yeah, it was an interesting one. But we're ready for it. But we have a good answer. With that, we've got a second half hour coming up. Give us a call. 1-800-684-3110. While you're at it, support the work of the ACLJ. Become an ACLJ champion if you can. That's the one that gives on a monthly basis. Knows that really helps us create a great baseline for this show and for our legal work, which we'll talk about coming up in the next few segments. And Rick Grinnell's going to be joining us. If you don't get us on your local station, find us at aclj.org.
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Keeping you informed and engaged. Now more than ever. This is Seculo. And now your host, Logan Sekulow.
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Welcome to Sekulow's second half hour of the show today. If you missed the first half hour, find us later on Archives on ACLJ.org. However you get your podcasts, YouTube, Rumble, we are there right now. And if you are watching live between 12 and 1 p.m. Eastern time, welcome. We love getting your comments in, so make sure you put those in the chat as well. We're monitoring them. We look at them. But if you also want to call in, it's a great time to call in, 1-800-684-3110. 1-800-684-3110. If you've been listening a long time, I also want to encourage you to support this work. I've done a big pitch recently for the ACLJ, and I think it's always important to let you know that when you're listening to this show, when you're watching it, however you get this content, it's not paid for by major sponsors. You're hearing ads in your local market on the radio. That money doesn't go to us. That goes to the station or the network. If you see YouTube ads, know that is so minuscule in terms of the amount of money it costs to put on the show that it just it makes it that's a nice little dent. But it is a dent to say the least. What really pays the bills here, what's able to keep the lights on and do this show for you. And to have all of our incredible legal staff and the dozens of people that work on this show, just this show every day. We need your support. So I encourage you to go to ACLJ.org. There's a thing called ACLJ Champions. Those are people that give on sort of a membership level. They give on a monthly automated donation level. Of course, it's tax deductible. And I encourage you to do that today. If you're not already a monthly supporter of the ACLJ, you can be part of the fight, whether that is in the media or whether that is in the courtroom. And that is at ACLJ.org. dot org slash champions or scan the qr code that's on your screen i hadn't done that in a little while i want to make sure we get that out of the way we can go through a lot of the things that you support here and we'll do that as the show progresses because know that it's not just a show we're not just running commentary we do direct legal work for so many people including you if you need it at no cost if you have some legal issue that is within the scope of what we do here first amendment freedom of speech religious liberty Kurt, you go to ACLJ.org slash help, fill out a simple form, and a lawyer will be in touch with you. We know there's a lot of students right now who are going through it. I expect school is in full swing as we are actually headed towards Christmas. I mean, we are headed towards the back half of the first semester of school. We know a lot of you are going to be doing Christmas programs soon, what that looks like. And the ACLJ will be there to help support your religious freedom and your First Amendment rights. With that being said, Will, what do you want to go to right now?
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Well, I mean, what we've been talking about is this issue with the candidate for attorney general in Virginia, in the Commonwealth of Virginia, and the despicable, disqualifying statements that he made over text message about Republican colleagues of his in the House of Delegates a few years back. And the other thing that you're starting to see is you're seeing like the Virginia Beach Democrat Committee. So a very large place in Virginia, one of the largest cities in Virginia outside northern Virginia. But they have come out with statements themselves of saying, you know, recent press may have spotlighted past mistakes. We say let those without sin cast the first stone and said that it points out the hypocrisy of Republicans for statements they have made. When you start giving this like back and forth, well, oh, no, they've said worse, bad things, too. One, it kind of pours water on how bad these were. And so they're trying to deflect. about what these statements were i haven't seen really on either side of the aisle democrats or republicans messaging like this for a leading candidate for a very powerful position in a very powerful state in the country let's talk about that too what is the power of the attorney general like many people don't even necessarily know that
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, each state is a little bit different. But typically, when you have elected attorney generals, they have some independence from the governor. So their job is to both represent the state, but also carry out various functions like the top law enforcement, very similar to our U.S. attorney general. They are overseeing. the carrying out of the functions of the legal decision, whether that's on the civil side, a criminal side, but they kind of set the tone. What are we going to prioritize? What is going to be the issues we're going to take on? So significant. And in some cases, they also are the party that represents the state before like the U.S. Supreme Court and federal courts as well. So they have a unique independence system. From the governor. So you can't just say, well, this guy, he's going to be number two and the governor's really going to run things. No, no, that's not how it works.
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Different kind of position. Hey, phone lines are open for you. We're going to take as many calls as we can. Actually, in the next segment, you know, we usually do that at the end. But today we got Rick Grinnell joining us in the last segment. So you need to call in right now. We got two lines open, 1-800-684-3110. Stay on hold if you get on hold. It's going to take a minute for our phone screener to get to everybody, but we will. 1-800-684-3110. Welcome back to Secular. We're going to take as many calls as we can. A lot of you called in. Phone lines are completely jammed right now. So let's kick it off. Some of you got calls kind of all over the map, but you know what? Let's just take them. Chuck's calling line two. Listen on the radio. You're on the air, Chuck.
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Hey, good afternoon, guys. I'm here in Michigan, and I love listening to you guys throughout my midday whenever I get to my noon part of my day. But just a quick question or a quick statement. I'm concerned about our domestic terrorism that goes on. I know we look at nations. far off, but it seems like domestically we're having a lot of domestic terrorism, and some of these things aren't, I don't think, being either addressed or I don't know if the FBI, CIA, or our local police agencies are doing enough to address those things. I'm fortunate to have Charlie Kirk, then we had a couple of Democrats, and then we had some Turkish here in Michigan. Some of these groups, the affiliations that some of these individuals may have, and we are either just wiping it away and saying it's a far group to the left or somebody from the right, or we're just kind of being vague and inconclusive. How do you guys feel like our agencies, like Patel? It's like they can't give us any uptick on even what's going on with the KKK or other militias that things are happening in our world.
SPEAKER 06 :
Here's the truth. Here's the truth. The previous administration didn't prioritize this. They prioritize people who go to church with Latin mass. Parents who showed up at school board meetings. They didn't prioritize cartels. They didn't prioritize illegal immigrants with criminal records. They didn't prioritize, again, the idea of actual crime. They started sanctuary cities. They started giving out fentanyl and drugs. And so it's kind of the opposite. Now, new administrations come in and they have opened up a task force on these hate groups and domestic terror groups.
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And there's been the responses of bringing in the National Guard in these areas.
SPEAKER 06 :
a lot of these cities obviously there's been that's controversial we know now see between antifa and the national guard is happening as we speak in ice as we speak so again a couple of those incidents were related to uh veterans with ptsd which i think is a somewhat separate issue that the government can do a better job on right um one of my good friends just became the general counsel for veterans affairs and just got confirmed in that big confirmation that they did like 100 plus confirmations last night, which is a great move by Senator Thune, the majority leader, to kind of stick it to the Democrats during the shutdown. It's like, well, we can still confirm all of the nominees you've been holding up for nine months. So, you know, we're going to work with him on that. On the other issue, though, this is the first administration that has prioritized these domestic groups who are targeting people because of their political views, whether they are elected officials or high profile or just happen to be activists with different views.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yep, absolutely. Let's go ahead and take some more calls as we try to get through as many of these as we can. Let's go to Beth, who's calling in Arizona, who is watching on Rumble, one of our favorite platforms. Beth, you're on the air.
SPEAKER 02 :
Well, thank you. My question, my husband and I were discussing today that these rioters have to be arrested three times before they are charged with a crime. Why Why is that? I mean, why can they not? I mean, they commit the crime. The first time they arrest them, if they would charge them, put them in jail because they are Of course, criminals.
SPEAKER 08 :
I think we have an answer for that for you. What I would say, and I'll also pass it over to Jordan, is that one, that may be a specific case in a specific area, but I don't think that you can broadly say that you have to be arrested.
SPEAKER 06 :
There are other crimes where there's three strikes and you get a much more serious sentence. uh that's not what we're talking about here so don't confuse that also local police departments and usually those in uh heavily populated areas do have to prioritize who is going to take the space up right in their local prisons in the period between arresting someone and then actually sending them off at a prison into jail after their trial right right so they have to prioritize what space do we have i mean that's a so again that doesn't more discretionary doesn't mean that they shouldn't be prioritizing people who are burning down cities and attacking federal officials. But there has to be some kind of discretion into who is going to fill up the prisons first. And I think we're seeing that now. That's why ICE is getting involved on its own with its own detention facilities because local police could not... take on the amount of people that ICE is apprehending. So the federal government has set up its own centers.
SPEAKER 08 :
That's a good example. The other caveat I think there, Jordan, is in many of these jurisdictions where there are people of this ideology wanting to have these riots, a lot of times there's a district attorney there that is very far left, that we know that the plan that the Open Society Foundation to get these type of people District attorneys elected, spending money in races that no one ever really thinks about, actually pouring in cash to get people with the leftist ideology into the DA there. A lot of times it's the DA who has prosecutorial discretion of, are we going to use our resources on this individual to prosecute?
SPEAKER 06 :
The people that would be are people who actually, they weren't just there in the crowd. So unlike how they treated January 6th and what happened with those folks, because again, that shows you where their priorities were. They would go after the people that actually committed the most violent acts first. So if you were in the protest that turns violent, you're not necessarily going to be mass arresting. but if you're if you're the one punching the police officer or throwing a molotov cocktail well that's the person who should be taking up the space in the jail that night and and ultimately prosecuted because prosecuting people again just for being there is not so easy as much it's you want to have a direct tie to uh usually more criminal activity whether that's and i think what's important here is going after the antifa organizing that alone is a criminal kind of rico a situation, a conspiracy organized, and those organizers, even if they never take the streets and never punch the police officer, are just as guilty as the person who throws the punch. And so it's actually, I think, more important, like we were talking about, taking alive cartel leaders to dismantle the cartel. We have to find the leadership underground and the sources, financial resources that they have, who's dropping off the bricks, who is putting this together, saying this day we're going to have these people show up. It's not just random grassroots.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, I want to take another call. Let's go to Russ because it's going to tie into our next segment. Russ, go ahead in Ohio. Okay. I'm going to try to stay calm.
SPEAKER 10 :
I wasn't real calm with the... The man that talked to me. But I am so frustrated with some of the stuff going on, especially these riots. These communists are shooting us. We're not shooting back. We'll just leave it at that. But what I'm really frustrated about today is I saw Lindsey Graham on Hannity last night, and I saw him with A.G. Bondi yesterday, and he was so seething angry. Yep.
SPEAKER 06 :
and that's how i feel right now about this guy from virginia that's getting away with all this stuff i don't understand why he hasn't been arrested is there a law against arresting him i mean again you know we talked about freedom of speech things out of context is he using his ufd really you know mean what he says i think here they was very direct kept doubling down and there could have been some legal issues especially if it was immediately take it to law enforcement we do know also the speaker was notified about it at the time right so they had some decisions to make as well about how to deal with this since the threat was posed to them so i think again it's words usually take words and actions but If you're talking about your place of employment, no, you'd be fired. If you're talking about a high school kid, they'd be arrested. Suspended at least. They're not going to be charged with as serious of a crime. And their parents might be in trouble if their parents were the ones getting those messages or other people who didn't report it. This individual did report it. And so people, decisions were made. What I think is worse here... is that the Democrats in the Commonwealth of Virginia and in the federal government, so that senators and congressmen are standing with this candidate. I mean, Tim Kaine was ready to go to the fundraiser. The candidate himself had to shut the fundraiser down, and Tim Kaine still wanted to go. Let's take Vince in Virginia. So Tim Kaine wants this to happen to your kids? That's what I'd ask him.
SPEAKER 07 :
To wrap up our calls today, Bob, unfortunately, not going to be able to get to you. Vince in Virginia, go ahead. Last call of the day.
SPEAKER 05 :
Hey, thanks, guys. Thanks. Yeah, guys, I'm calling you from Williamsburg, Virginia, birthplace of America. I'm a lifelong Williamsburg, Virginia guy, same age as Jay Jones. Jay Jones actually went to William & Mary here in Williamsburg, ran into him a couple times. I'm going to tell you guys, Virginia is under attack. Just point blank, Virginia is under attack. Abigail Spanberger refuses to disvalue him from the ticket, tell him to get off the ticket, because our rights are under attack. They want to legalize marijuana, recreational marijuana in Virginia. They want to take our guns, and next is the freedom. Abigail Spanberger is dead set on attacking the Second Amendment right here in the birthplace of America, and Jay Jones is a huge part of that. Jay Jones has to stay on that ticket, because if he's off that ticket... Jason Menard stays in, and he won't prosecute the BS that they're going to try to push. I feel like they're going to try to turn Virginia into a copy, cut, and paste of Colorado. Prove me wrong.
SPEAKER 07 :
All right. Well, thank you, Vince. I mean, we've got a lot of Virginia politics there. Just checked in the last minute there. But I wanted to hear from someone locally. Clearly, you're dealing with it right now. When we get back in the next segment, Rick Grinnell is going to be joining us. We're talking about that spying situation. You're talking about Lindsey Graham being upset. You know why he's upset also. I saw a video of him saying, you know, why were they looking at my phone records? We'll get to that and so much more coming up with Rick Grinnell here in the next segment. While you can, support the work of the ACLJ at ACLJ.org. We've got a couple minutes until we're back. It's the perfect time to go on, make your donation, and come right back with Rick Grinnell. Welcome back to Secular. Rick Grinnell's joining us right now. Rick, this wasn't going to be the main topic we're going to talk about, but we have had some breaking news while we've been on the air. Of course, it has to do with California and the Pacific Palisades fires. It seems like they have caught somebody who was responsible, potentially, a potential arson in this situation. I just wanted to get your feedback on this as this has been ongoing for months and months and months. It's been pretty quiet. We haven't heard much about this. Then all of a sudden, boom, they found this person. I wanted to get your thoughts.
SPEAKER 04 :
I have been briefed on the situation, and I'm extremely pleased. I think our U.S. Attorney Bill Assele in Southern California has done a phenomenal job working with DOJ and the FBI. This is something that when Bill came in as the U.S. Attorney, he was focused on. This has been a devastating fire. We need to have accountability for how this started. We know that it just wasn't random. and i think when you follow the trail as they did and they figure out exactly who was up there they have videotape evidence they have other information i think this is a great day for holding people accountable who produced one of the most horrific acts in los angeles and uh we we all feel a little bit safer knowing that the person who did this has uh been caught and will be charged
SPEAKER 08 :
Rick, back to the topic that we were going to actually lead with before this breaking news, which is, as I agree, the people of Los Angeles can get some justice and maybe feel like the government is doing their job as well of going after the perpetrators of such things. But yesterday we found out some things that the government was doing that was not something that should have been their job, and that was when Special Counsel Jack Smith was was getting the phone data and records of eight U.S. senators and one member of the House of Representatives effectively spying on elected members of Congress as a part of his investigation into President Trump. We were shocked but not shocked at the same time because we've seen the abuse. from that special counsel's office, from the Department of Justice that we saw under the Biden administration. I want to get your thoughts on this about how far does this go? We keep getting new revelations of how bad they were running this operation for political purposes. And I'm just I'm curious, are we going to see more? And is it going to get worse?
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, I would equate this a little bit to the fire. We know that we've had this catastrophic situation where DOJ and the FBI have really wreaked havoc on Americans, whether it's tech companies working with the government to go after and debank and try to deplatform individuals. or groups that have created lists of people who are critics of DOJ and critics of the FBI that were targeted. The situation that unfolded in the last administration with government agencies really attacking individuals is so horrific that holding these individuals to account, being transparent, unearthing all of the evidence to show exactly what the government did to us is extremely helpful. The people want to know that their government is transparent And when it makes mistakes, that there is a process to come forward and say, this is what happened. This is what we did. This is how individuals were abused. So I think the transparency thing is crucial. But there's also an accountability. mechanism here. We need to hold the people accountable who did this so that it doesn't happen again. I think this goes into Comey and it goes into uncovering, and I'm glad Congress and the FBI and DOJ now are working together to uncover exactly the strategy of the last administration and the last DOJ and the last FBI, because we have to make sure that our government is working with us, not against us, not targeting individuals. And when you're working with the private sector phone companies to tap people's phones, this is illegal, immoral, and outrageous. And what we have to be able to do is hold these individuals to account. I hope that we figure out what private companies worked with the government to turn over this information instead of fight against turning over this information. This is a situation that we need to make sure doesn't ever happen again.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, Rick, I think that that brings up a very interesting point. You know, we spent so many years talking about sort of the corruption behind the scenes, what was going on, whether that was in the FBI or the CIA or all these kind of issues under the last administration that it almost becomes a little harder to retrain ourselves and our audience to now think about this being a brand new crisis. group of people that's in charge right now. As someone who's been there during those transition years, what is that like for people to understand that there is kind of a new group of people in town and they can put a little bit more trust in what's happening?
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, it takes political leadership to work with the career people to uncover and expose all of the hidden strategies. And that's what we're seeing now is that this happened at DOJ, this happened at FBI, and we now need to make sure that the current leadership is accountable to the people. So you have to work within your agencies to figure out what happened and then just come clean. And don't try to spin it, don't try to hide it. just come clean and what i did as dni is is make sure that all of the redacted information that was damaging to the agencies to the intel agencies was just put into the public uh We knew that the information that we were uncovering was not a source or a method that was going to damage the intelligence agencies. We knew that it was just bad PR for a strategy of targeting political opponents. And so we unearthed it. We were very transparent. Transparency is not a political strategy. thing. It's an actual accountability strategy. And so I hope that our political leaders dig deep into their agencies to uncover all of the things that have been happening targeting Americans.
SPEAKER 08 :
Rick, real quick question here at the end because we only got a couple minutes left, but couldn't let you go without getting your thoughts on that disastrous interview that the candidate running for governor in California decided that, you know, it's not worth my time to answer a question to a reporter when they ask, how will you reach out to Trump voters?
SPEAKER 04 :
look i hope everybody watches this katie porter just reminded all of us that she is southern california kamala she is someone who has not been vetted uh is ill-equipped to lead the state of california just watch the clip look at her it was a really ugly situation where she is unable to actually just be transparent offer explanations and she told us and she doesn't wanna work with any Republicans and she doesn't need us to win. And so she is absolutely gonna have this continued strategy of partisanship. And I think she demonstrated that she was extremely weak and petty. And that interview I think is the end of her campaign.
SPEAKER 07 :
Rick, thanks so much for joining us today. It was a packed show. We appreciate all of you who watched today. We rocked through it. So many different topics, so many different questions that came in. We appreciate everyone who called in as well. I do want to encourage you here because we only have 30 seconds left on this show today. Support the work of the ACLJ. That supports this show. It also supports our incredible legal work. And we'll dive in more into that in the coming days. I mean, we have done a lot. We have filed at Supreme Court a case being heard today on Election Day voting rules. We have a critical FOIA operation right now over a Biden-Jack Smith case. There's so much I can cover in 10 seconds here. Over the last year we've engaged in, I'm going to read these off, 216 pro-life cases, 98 international cases, 244 school matters, 181 government cases, 36 cases battling anti-Semitism, 117 religious liberty cases, and so much more. Talk to you tomorrow.
Join the hosts of National Crawford Roundtable as they delve into the complexities surrounding the latest government shutdown. In this episode, we dissect the political narratives and misrepresentations fueling the ongoing debates. Learn why Senate Republicans’ confirmations amid stalled negotiations present a unique angle on this political standoff. Our discussion also reveals the unpopular truth about Congressional pay and how political incentives can steer national direction. Dive into the intricacies of policies that affect both the government's financial planning and the ethical obligations towards citizens.
SPEAKER 01 :
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SPEAKER 02 :
Another edition National Crawford Roundtable. I'm your host today, John Rush out of Denver, Colorado. My show is Rush to Reason. Neil Boron, Buffalo, New York. Neil Boron live with us today. Bob Duco should be joining us. Detroit, Michigan, The Bob Duco Show. Neil, good morning.
SPEAKER 04 :
Hey, good to hear from you, John. How are you?
SPEAKER 02 :
always a joy. Um, as you know, I, I learned so much from you guys on a weekly basis that actually look forward to, we, if you all know, we record on Wednesday morning. So Bob says this all the time. If things get a little wonky timeline wise, then you all know why we talk about some things the way we do. And today, Neil, entering the eighth day of the government shutdown. So I thought we'd start with that. We've got several things to talk about today, but here's something that I just read this this morning. I wasn't aware this was going on. Senate Republicans have confirmed more than a hundred Trump nominees as the shutdown continues. So I guess if there's anything out of the shutdown, that's a good thing. In fact, I think there's others, but that's one good thing.
SPEAKER 04 :
So they're actually working. You know, the one thing that I, I guess I was never fully aware of, but, uh, was the idea that Congress continues to get paid during a shutdown.
SPEAKER 02 :
Correct.
SPEAKER 04 :
Active duty military personnel maybe don't and others in certain positions may have their paychecks withheld for a while, but Congress gets paid. So there you go.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah. And as we've talked in the past, and I think I'm sure you have on your show and I have on mine, I mean, the reality is they all will eventually get paid. There might be a delay in pay and some, to your point, will get paid during the shutdown. Others don't. And again, we're day seven. And, you know, one of the things and I know we've talked about this on some of the shows. In the past, we've even talked about it during some of their shutdowns. I think the difference about this shutdown, Neil, versus others is if you look at what the left is actually, what the Democrats are actually looking to get out of this and the complete, utter misrepresentation of what they're actually arguing about. I mean, they're flat out lying. I don't know how to say it. They're flat out lying when they're talking about, you know, what the what the Republicans, what the conservatives have done budgetarily speaking. I mean, it's a flat out lie. And what they're wanting to put back in is absolutely absurd. I mean, there's there's no reason to go down that path and put back in what they want. They want more than what was actually taken out to begin with.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, including taxpayer-funded abortions, bottom line. What's amazing about the whole scenario is that the Republicans are offering the idea of a continuing resolution where they can push this thing out into the future and officially decide on the budget at some point and funding the federal government at some point. But in the meantime, the government could be open right now. And all Democrats have to do is say, OK, let's push it down the road a bit and we'll figure this out in the meantime. They wanted the government shut down because somehow they want to try to blame Republicans. But the reality is the blame is on them. Democrats are the ones who shut it down.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah, it is. And again, appreciate you saying that. And I think, you know, the one thing that we need to remind folks of is the fact that, yes, they are the ones that are causing this. And, you know, there's been so again, there's so much information on the left. And you even saw, you know, the White House, you know, press secretary in the White House itself come back and really go against some of the rhetoric that's coming out from the left as to, you know, illegals, you know, for example. There's no such thing as an illegal alien getting medical treatment under Medicaid. And so she just comes out and there's been so many stories now that have been put out about how, no guys, yes, they have actually been getting treated. And this is the amount of dollars roughly that we've been spending. And again, it's another one of the lies of the left, Neal.
SPEAKER 04 :
And there seems to be no end. I mean, honestly, both political parties do what they can to make themselves look better. But I think the Democrats have cornered the market on being able to look in the camera and just absolutely lie to people's face, knowing, obviously, that the legacy media is going to back them up or push the narrative, which is why you see talking heads on liberal news programs, elected officials from the Democrat Party. members of government that are already elected, you know, all these people on the same page saying the exact same thing every time something like this goes down. And we're watching it again with regard to the big, bad Republicans who shut the government down. Not so. We said, no, we'll keep the government open. Just agree to give us some more time and just participate with us. And they're lying. They're literally lying.
SPEAKER 02 :
There are. And there's an article, by the way, USA Today, not a conservative publication by any stretch of the imagination. So I'm going to read directly from this particular article. Before Republicans passed the GOP tax and spending bill this summer, certain classes of qualified immigrants quotes around qualified with legal status were eligible for Medicaid coverage if they also met poverty thresholds. And by the way. One thing that this article is not saying is there were there are certain states, i.e. California, whereby you could have literally come across the border and literally went and then got medical care immediately. So there wasn't even this qualified status in certain states. I want to make sure that I'm very clear on that, because that's not the case across the country. So even among those lawful qualified immigrants, several groups were required to wait five to seven years after arrival immediately. into the US before they could become eligible. The new GOP law reduced Medicaid eligibility to only US citizens, legal permanent residents, and certain Cuban and Haitian immigrants And the other groups would no longer qualify, which by the way, Neil, I'm all for that. I mean, we've got enough, you know, this is sort of that we've got to take care of our own. It's like the oxygen mask on the plane. You can't take care of others if we haven't taken care of ourselves first. And the reality is we are a country that's $34 trillion in debt. Actually, I probably should double check that. It's probably high. I mean, it keeps growing on a daily basis, as you know, Neil. In fact, I might be wrong in that. Is it 34? Is it 36? I'm sorry. I apologize. I didn't check.
SPEAKER 04 :
I don't know. But, you know, I think that they're poking the wrong bear here. I mean, Donald Trump's not going to be bullied on this.
SPEAKER 02 :
By the way, it's 37. It's almost 38 now. So I was off by $4 trillion. Sorry. So it's almost $38 trillion now.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah. Yeah. So I don't know. Do you think Donald Trump is going to be bullied on this by the Democratic Party? I doubt it. So this is a bunch of political theater that's leading nowhere. Democrats are going to get nothing out of this. And the attempt is to pin all this on Donald Trump. I don't think the American people are going to buy it long term.
SPEAKER 02 :
And I think you bring up a great point. One thing that I want to throw this in really quick, because you talked about how even the publicly funded abortions and things along those lines, and those are things that we're dead set against. I mean, we're dead set against abortion, period. Reality is, in some cases, yes, it's going to keep happening depending upon the state that you're in. I happen to be in a state that it happens all the way up even into late-term abortions. And the best way, by the way, and this is my opinion, I've heard many a pastor even talk on this, Neil, the best way to handle the abortion topic, in my opinion, isn't legislatively speaking. It's through the heart, and it's through showing young women exactly what's going on inside of the womb. And Neil, the reality is pre-born does exactly that. And for those of you listening, if you think, hey, how can I be a part of this? How can I actually save babies' lives? The way you do that is by donating To Preborn, you hear Bob talk about it all the time. You can give small donations. You can give a large donation. $15,000 buys an ultrasound machine. There's multiple ways and countless ways, I should say, to actually help Preborn. And folks, every donation helps. Even if you're somebody where you're like, man, guys, John, I'm on a fixed budget. I really can't do anything, but I'd like to help. Neil, even $5. I mean, at the end of the day, if you get enough people doing $5, it all adds up. And the reality, folks, is we need your help. Preborn needs your help. We want to save. the lives of these babies that are inside of mom's womb. And at the end of the day, Bob always says, and I fully understand where he's coming with this, in a lot of cases, mom's life and the family's lives are also changed. Some of them come to Christ at the same time. So folks, give to Preborn. Go to CrawfordMediaGroup.net. Look for them there. And Neil, another great organization. In fact, I've talked to many of my own listeners and I had a listener the other day that actually bought a device and it's a great device. And I've even got a medical practice that I'm actually talking to you right now about SunPower LED because I know how well it works.
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SPEAKER 02 :
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SPEAKER 04 :
Hey, is Bob there? Hey, Bob.
SPEAKER 03 :
It's a long story, guys. But hey, I thought I would just crash the podcast. Yeah, that's all right. Kind of like how Bob Hope used to just walk out in the middle of The Tonight Show. Hilarious. No, I know. Just long story about earlier. But anyway, I am here now.
SPEAKER 02 :
Well, glad you're with us. And yes, Bob's got his own testimonies on SunPower. Bob, talking about the government shutdown going into the eighth day. And, you know, the reality is, you know, the list of things that the Democrats want to get the government back open again. And I think this is one of those areas where GOP, you know, the right, the conservatives are just not going to bend. And thankfully so, because what they're asking for. And in fact, as far as I'm concerned, in all cases, it's just a wasteful amount of spending. And as I said a few minutes ago, you didn't hear me say this, but we're almost $38 trillion in debt right now. Right.
SPEAKER 03 :
And you're going to add $1.5 trillion to this on top of it? Right. This whole thing, too, is that all the Republicans are – first, frankly, I don't like CRs anyway. I don't like these continuing resolutions. Let's just kick the can down the road a few weeks anyway. Here's Mike Johnson and the Republicans and Donald Trump willing to say to the Democrats, you know what? We'll kick off the new fiscal year for several weeks of status quo. You guys just get to keep all of your Biden spending while we talk this through. And the Democrats are going to say, no, that's not enough. And by the way – and I got to say too that people are confused when they're like, well, wait a minute. The healthcare part of this. The Democrats say this is an absolute lie. We're not trying to provide healthcare to illegal aliens. And it's like, yes, you are. Yeah, you are. Yeah. every illegal alien. But when you try to extend these Obamacare subsidies that end up allowing for illegal aliens to go into a hospital, if an illegal alien goes into a hospital, all right, they have to be treated anyway. The hospital is not allowed to turn away a human being. OK, so they're going to be. The question is, who's going to pay the hospital bill? The Democrats are saying we want the American taxpayer to pay that hospital bill and then also take all of the illegals that Joe Biden, with a wave of his magic wand, decided to declare, they're legal. I'm going to put them in my parole program and say that they're legal. And so now suddenly they're not illegal and they're entitled to health care? No. These are millions of illegal aliens that would be getting government-funded health care instead of being given the bill themselves. They're going to get treated, whatever they need, whatever emergency, they're going to get treated. Who pays the bill? That's what this is about. Democrats are saying we want the taxpayer to pay the bill.
SPEAKER 02 :
And that's where, you know, it's like, you know, I'm tired of paying the bill for everybody else. I guess as a positive taxpayer, a net taxpayer, I'm not a net tax receiver like a lot of folks are. I'm a payer. You guys are payers. No offense, guys. I'm tired of paying for everybody else that doesn't contribute.
SPEAKER 03 :
That's right. And you know what? And by the way, if it's some senior citizen, elderly person, and they're infirm and they can't pay their bills or whatever. I'm okay with that.
SPEAKER 02 :
We have Medicaid. That's different. We have other things for that.
SPEAKER 03 :
Right. We're not talking about that. We're talking about somebody that is either A, young, healthy, able-bodied, and too lazy to go get a job, or B, somebody that broke into this country illegally and is not obeying our laws. Those people do not deserve to have other people pay their medical bills for them.
SPEAKER 02 :
I'll add one layer to this. I'm probably going to get in trouble for saying this. I'm also tired of, and I know some individuals along these lines, I'm tired of the... couples who won't get married because they know if they do it changes where they're at you know tax wise and even qualifying for some of the things that we're talking about i'm even tired guys of those individuals that know how to game the system that can stay on medicaid and and i know somebody that just did this they can stay on medicaid have a baby i'm paying for it these are able-bodied still working working as we speak americans that have the ability to go out and get health insurance but because they know how to game the system They do, and the three of us are flipping the bill. I'm also upset about that, guys.
SPEAKER 03 :
John's email address is... And I can hear the senior citizens out there right now going, oh, but wait a minute here. We don't want to legally get married because then suddenly we go from double Social Security income to one and a half Social Security income. That is kind of gaming the system. Then, John, you do have... And by the way, I agree with you. But you're going to have people that say, yeah, but the system is set up right now to punish... marriage, it shouldn't be that way. We should restructure the system.
SPEAKER 02 :
And by the way, I can't disagree with that.
SPEAKER 03 :
Don't make me feel bad because I'm, you know, that kind of thing.
SPEAKER 02 :
No, I get it. And I understand what you're saying. And I was telling my wife last night that I've been one of those all along who have always felt like government shouldn't be in the marriage business, period. That's probably a podcast guy's in and of itself where we get all sorts of opinions on that because I'm one that says, I don't think government should be involved in that period. I don't think there should be better deductions for married couples versus non-married couples. I mean, I know why we do it. I know why the tax system is structured that way. It's encouraging. you know, families and family growth and having kids and so on. But I don't like it. My point is there are people out there that even are American citizens and they know how to gain the system, how to stay on Medicaid. So all the rest of us are paying the bill. And by the way, these are people that I look at and say, oh, wait a minute. You're not really there's no sacrifices on your end. You're not working half the hours that I am. And yet you're reaping a lot of the same benefits that somebody that works twice as what twice as much as you do. That's not fair either, guys.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, that's not. But I I'm going to push back a little bit and say, I think that. Neil DeGrasse Tyson, A government should do anything they can to support marriage and family, because if you actually look at the problems we have in our society. Neil DeGrasse Tyson, Crime, of course, being one of them, but high suicide rates and drug addiction and everything else you're looking at you know fatherless homes broken families etc.
SPEAKER 02 :
Neil DeGrasse Tyson, And I won't disagree with that Neil, but my point isn't about Bob was right, a moment ago, the reality is we. We right now, we incentivize almost the opposite of that from some of the things that we're talking about right now, especially when it comes to Medicare, Medicaid and things along those lines. We actually are incentivizing people not to get married.
SPEAKER 03 :
Right. And if we're going to incentivize anything, it should incentivize in the direction of what Neil's saying. And I know where you're going as a libertarian here. Let's not incentivize anything in either direction. But I don't know if this is something that can't automatically be incentivized one way or another.
SPEAKER 02 :
Well, and really quick, Bob, I am not against incentivizing folks to have children because right now our birth rate is such a point where If we don't do something about that, economically speaking, we can't continue to survive. We're going to be like Canada paying people to actually, you know, have kids on a monthly basis. I don't want to get to that point either. So I'm OK with incentivizing families, family growth, having kids and so on. And however we do that, I'm all for. So even though I'm not somebody, to your point, that really likes to incentivize certain things and we can go through the list of them that are out there. I am one that because of what Neil just said, I really want to see more family, more family growth, kids and so on. Now, on another note, probably another podcast in and of itself, the left is really getting hurt on this. I read an article. It's interesting you say all this because I read an article over the weekend talking about how the left is killing themselves when it comes to. their reproduction end of things because of all of this nonsense they've gone through with, you know, being gay and transgender and this, that and the other. They are, quote unquote, not reproducing at the same rate that conservatives are. And at some point, Bob, I'll start with you. This is going to come back to haunt them.
SPEAKER 03 :
It very well could, okay? And you know what? Boo-hoo, break my heart.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah, exactly.
SPEAKER 03 :
So, yeah, exactly. I think let it happen. But one of the things that we do also understand about Democrats is that one way or another, they will lie, cheat, or steal to game the system in their favor to overcome something like this. We see them doing this with people exiting their own states. You know, when you have a bunch of people leaving California because... We can't afford the taxes out there. It's just too much. And so they leave and they move to someplace like Florida. California doesn't want to lose power. They don't want to lose U.S. congressional districts. They don't want to lose electoral college votes. So we've got to replace those people somehow. I know. Let's make ourselves a sanctuary state. Let's have open borders and flood a bunch of illegals in here so they can pad our census bureaus so we can maintain our high number of electoral college votes in California. And congressional districts. So one way or another, they would find a way, I think, to cheat the system and still make up for the the reduced the reduced children being born among liberals. How they would do that. I don't know. But I said this before. If you liberals are having less children. Good. Although I don't want it to be because of abortions. If that's the reason why, then I don't want to say good.
SPEAKER 02 :
I agree. Neil, your thoughts on this? And again, I agree with everything Bob just said. The only thing that I have said, and I'm going to keep saying this is because I know some of these individuals and what actually happens, there are still A lot of folks, even with the open border sides of things with Joe Biden, and this is one thing I don't think the Democrats really realize, there still are, I don't know what the percentage is, but there are some really solid conservative families that came to the U.S. that don't think like Democrats. Yes, they crossed the border. Yes, they crossed illegally. I get all of that. We've talked about some of that in the past. But they are not true blue Democrats and don't go lock, stock and barrel with the Democrats because these are very family oriented people, Neil, at the end of the day that I don't think. And what I'm getting at is I don't think it's as cut and dried as everybody thinks that even the Democrats think when it comes to bringing these people in. That's my point.
SPEAKER 04 :
yeah well i think that has everything to do with donald trump's growth uh in in terms of voters and support from the latino community that's what you're seeing people come from you know pseudo-communist countries socialist countries they don't want that anymore and they recognize what they're seeing here from the democrat party and they're like no we want freedom so we'll vote republican and you know there are conservative families that no matter what the politics had to do with they're just they're from you know god-fearing families they came here and they're good people and they're choosing to vote on the conservative side of the aisle and i i gotta believe there's people on the democrats side saying oops like what are we doing and so therefore as you said their policies are working against them uh future voters are non-existent you know in in gay marriages Because they're not happening. They're not able to reproduce. Well, OK, well, that policy isn't going to work long term. You might want to think that through. But yeah, you're right. You're 100 percent right.
SPEAKER 02 :
And Bob, really quick, jump back over to pre-born. I did the first spot for them in conversation we had with them. But you're just right a moment ago, too. You know, we we don't want a lack of families because of abortion, especially if the Democrats are doing this because of other reasons. Great. But abortion is the one thing that we do want to stop.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, and we really do. And it doesn't matter whether somebody is a Republican or a Democrat, the baby growing inside of them is made in the image and likeness of God, and they need to be protected. And we need to encourage that mother to let that baby live. Well, that's what pre-born does. The best way to convince a mom not to get an abortion is to let her see an ultrasound image of her baby. Very rare that women still go through with an abortion if they see an ultrasound image of their baby. And that's where Preborn comes in because Preborn is the main pro-life group that supplies ultrasound images in pro-life centers all across the country. Problem is, folks, that the demand is just higher than the supply. And so there's a lot of pro-life centers that don't even have an ultrasound machine in them. And the ones that do have them, it takes money to operate them. So we're asking everybody in the audience right now to partner with Preborn. Basically pay for ultrasound images. It's really that simple, okay? Maybe you've done this already. Will you give to Preborn again? $28 is the average ultrasound expense to stop one abortion, to save one baby's life. So pray about how many babies' lives you'll save. Take $28 times fill in the blank. And whatever that number is, would you give that to Preborn right now? Plain and simple. Here's how you give. You can go over the phone. They answer the phones 24-7, so call 833-850-BABY. That's 833-850-BABY. Just mention National Crawford Roundtable when you call. Or just go to CrawfordMediaGroup.net and click on Preborn. And you can give right there. And don't forget, 100% of your gift goes to fund ultrasounds, not a penny for overhead. That's all covered by private donors. So CrawfordMediaGroup.net, click on Preborn. And while you're there, Neil, we want to check out SunPowerLED too and find out what they can do for you.
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SPEAKER 02 :
Okay. Appreciate that guys very much. And yeah, please give to our sponsors. So it makes us happen on a weekly basis. And I hear from a lot of you that actually not only give to pre-born, but use the devices, the SunPower devices as well. And we appreciate that greatly. All right. I've got about a minute left here, guys. Bob, 30 seconds. Should the GOP give in on anything when it comes to reopening government?
SPEAKER 03 :
No, no. They got to stick to their guns in this and they need to get everybody on the same page and making it very simple. Mike Johnson's trying to do a good job with this with side by side. Look, here's what the Democrats are asking for and demanding and whatever. So make it clear. Sell the American public on the fact that the Democrats really are trying to provide taxpayer funded health care for illegal aliens, not all illegal aliens, but for millions of them. Make that clear.
SPEAKER 02 :
Neil, your, your 30 seconds. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 04 :
I agree with Bob and no, they should not budge. Just hold their ground. Uh, they're on the high ground there. They have, they control both houses of Congress. They've got the presidency. And they're actually in the driver's seat. They're the ones who get to call the shots, make the Democrats eventually concede.
SPEAKER 02 :
And by the way, I can't disagree with anything you guys are saying. I'm right in line with you guys. Don't give in on anything. Hold the line. I don't care if this thing goes 14, 16, 20 days. I mean, at the end of the day, frankly, most people don't notice any difference right now in their daily lives. So the reality is you just shut it down forever for all I care. We'll talk about that maybe a little bit in the future, depending on how long this thing goes. But folks, again... National Crawford Roundtable, this is the first half. I'm your host, John Rush, Denver, Colorado. My show is Rush to Reason, Bob Duco, Detroit, Michigan, The Bob Duco Show, and Neil Boron from Neil Boron Live, Buffalo, New York. Second half is next.
SPEAKER 01 :
This is a Crawford Media Group production.
SPEAKER 02 :
All right, second half, National Crawford Roundtable. And again, myself, John Rush, Denver, Colorado, Rush to Reason, Bob Duco, Detroit, Michigan, Bob Duco Show, and Neil Boron, Buffalo, New York, Neil Boron Live. Okay, now this one is going to get maybe a little bit more dicey. Interesting to see what you guys' thoughts are And there's lots going on in regards to, you know, the White House, Trump, the administration, sending troops, National Guard troops, to different cities to quote-unquote stem violence and really sort of get these cities back on track, if you would. And there's judges now that are blocking some of this. Some of this has already taken place in some areas. And by the way, with really solid, positive results. Now, question I have, I'll start with you, Bob. Is this the proper role of government?
SPEAKER 03 :
Yes. Even though I know as a libertarian you might say no, but here's the thing. If you have lawlessness in a particular town, all right, and you're allowing criminals to run roughshod over the community there and the Democrat leaders refuse to do anything about it, Then, yeah, I think the federal government says, you know what, then if you're not going to enforce the law, we are. And I just what what if you had I mean, I guess we could take an exaggerated level of this. What if you had some small town somewhere? where it was totally a small corrupt town, almost like you see in some of these movies sometimes about a Wild West town where you have the corrupt sheriff. But if you have a town and the sheriff just decides, we're just going to run a criminal enterprise out of this county and it's a small enough county and so be it. There's no way in the world that the higher governing authorities are going to go, well, you know, we believe in autonomy of local government. There comes a point where it's like you are allowing lawbreakers to run and rule the city, and it's costing other people's lives. So yeah, that is a place where I think that there's a justifiable place for the federal government to step in and say, if you're not going to enforce the laws, then we're going to have to come in and enforce them for you, and it's going to save the lives of the people in your own community. And can I just say to people like the African-American mayor of Chicago and so many other of these Democrat mayors, Most of the lives that the Trump administration are saving are African-American lives in these inner cities. So whether it's going after – and ICE tends to target predominantly high-crime communities. Well, guess what? High-crime communities are disproportionately black. So here's Trump willing to spend political equity and stick his neck out and be a lightning rod for what? To save the lives of African-American citizens in these inner city communities from lawlessness. So I find it so ironic that Democrats are calling him a fascist and black Democrat mayors are calling him a fascist when he's trying to save black lives that are supposed to matter.
SPEAKER 02 :
I want to add some things to what you just said, Bob. By the way, I agree with you. I tend to be one of those where let states and states' rights and even cities to a point have their own ability to run themselves and so on. I'm not a micromanager by any means. I don't think the federal government should be either. Right. I look at this and I'll even add one more layer to what you're saying. This is defeating Marxism because what these cities do when they allow this lawlessness to happen is this is the playbook for Marxism. This is exactly what the Marxist movement wants to have happen. Let's create chaos. Let's make people dependent upon government. Let's get rid of God. Let's make so much disruption that people have no choice but to look to us for solving their problems. And by the way, no, folks, the federal government coming in is not solving the problems in the way a Marxist would say. It's actually eliminating the problem altogether and allowing people to live more freely, which is what our country is all about. The other side of it is, no, let's keep people all huddled up. Let's let's round them up, if you would, quote unquote. Let's keep them close together. We can manage them better. It's by the way, we could get into long conversations about why I believe they like to reintroduce wolves and things like that, like they've done in Colorado, because the more people are afraid to go into the wilderness, the more they stay close to home. And that's how a government, you know, that's how the Marxist system works. You can control people better that way. But Neil, I want to get your thoughts on this before we go to SunPowerLED.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, I fundamentally agree with just about everything you guys have said. However, I'll throw this out there, and I'm not just trying to be dogmatic, but I'm all for going after lawlessness, particularly when local authorities seem to be unable to control it. I agree 100%. It's part of a Marxist playbook. We need civil unrest. We need disorder to be able to push our agenda. Don't worry, government's going to save you, blah, blah, blah. Well, government isn't saving anybody. Now that the Trump administration's in power, they're saying, look, we'll use the National Guard troops if we need to. So a federal judge in Oregon blocks the ability of Trump to do that. Trump does the end around, right? So he brings in troops from California, possibility of bringing some in from Texas, I guess. And the federal judge is like, wait, are you circumventing my order? Is that what's going on right now? Okay, so let me just say this. Yeah, okay, but that represents lawlessness. And I'm not 100% sure that the best thing- No, it's just the game that they're playing.
SPEAKER 02 :
And I will throw this out. This is, in my opinion, these are judges that, in my opinion, don't have the authority to really even do what they're doing. That's another conversation probably in and of itself that we could have on a future podcast. There's a bunch of these what I call rogue judges that feel like they've got way more power than they really do. There is nothing illegal about what Trump's doing in Bob's case, talking about this civil unrest that goes on in a lot of these cities. There is nothing illegal about deploying the National Guard to clean those cities up. Not one thing.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, can he use the U.S. Army, for instance? Can he order the Marines?
SPEAKER 02 :
No, he can use the National Guard. He can't use federal forces, quote unquote, but National Guard is not. And there's two different ways National Guard is deployed, two different orders that can be done, some from the state level, some from the federal level. He's well within his right to deploy them on the federal level.
SPEAKER 03 :
If it's perceived as an emergency. That's right. I would argue a bunch of citizens dying in lawlessness and criminals being allowed to run the streets like crazy becomes an emergency.
SPEAKER 02 :
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SPEAKER 03 :
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SPEAKER 02 :
Absolutely. And one thing I wanted to add too, and this is really key, which I don't think this judge, again, I don't really feel like this judge's ruling is correct. I'm not an attorney, so probably out of my wheelhouse to even comment on this. But keep in mind too, Bob, one other thing that we need to add is that these are troops being deployed to protect federal buildings and ice and so on. So it's not necessarily even, I know we said go and clean up the cities. And yes, in a lot of ways, that's what happens. But You know, the key word here of what Trump is really saying is, no, we're sending in federal troops to protect the federal property that we have. And in that case, there's nothing illegal about what we're doing. And he's correct, by the way, Bob.
SPEAKER 03 :
Right. And by the way, that's an important point that you make, OK, that the lawlessness happening. This lawlessness right now is being driven by the anti-ICE rhetoric and protesters in Antifa. And so they are targeting specifically ICE facilities, ICE officers. Look at what happened to the ICE agents in Portland, OK, where you have a mob, an angry mob surrounding them, not letting them leave, kicking their vehicles. And by the way, the chief of patrol, the internal memo shows the chief of patrol gave an order saying don't respond to a cyst. Law enforcement doesn't respond to law enforcement in distress.
SPEAKER 02 :
And these guys were on their way and really disgruntled at the fact that that order went out, by the way. So don't blame this on those guys, by the way. This is from leadership.
SPEAKER 03 :
The guys on the ground, they were upset. Your average rank-and-file cop wants to help another rank-and-file cop, even if they're a federalized agent. But no, this is this is first protecting federal property. It really is. You have the right to do that. We're not Trump isn't sending ICE agents in there to give speeding tickets to people driving down the road. All right. No, it's protecting federal facilities. But why are protecting federal facilities? If you see somebody in the commission of a crime. All right. Then you step in and you stop that. You arrest those people. So I'm totally for this. There's nothing illegal about it at all.
SPEAKER 02 :
Neal, your thoughts on that? Again, adding that other layer that, again, even NewsMeet, it doesn't talk about enough of the layer I just mentioned. And frankly, this is what I think the judge is missing as well.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, I think fundamentally, I'm happy that he's going into Oregon with the National Guard from California or Texas or wherever. And if that involves circumventing a federal judge's order, well, so be it if you feel you can justify it. But fundamentally, I think that perception is reality for some people. And if they feel like Donald Trump is a renegade, like that he's the, uh, you know, the lawless cop in his, in his little town running his little kingdom, that if they feel like Donald Trump himself is not paying attention to the laws of the United States of America or the constitution, which he gets accused of all the time. And I think people are usually almost a hundred percent of the time wrong. Um, OK, but we are coming up to the midterm elections. I think he needs to remain strong on ending crime and doing whatever we possibly can to get people to enforce the laws that are on the books. And when municipalities are not paying attention to the laws that are on the books, they're allowing gangs and gang members and others to run rampant in a city, well then, okay, get in there and make a difference. But without, I mean, he needs to be very careful to make sure that he's not saying, I don't care what the law says, I'll do whatever we want. Because that's exactly what Democrats are saying when they say, hey, the Supreme Court has just issued a ruling. Well, we don't care. They're not legitimate. They don't know what they're talking about. So we'll just do whatever we want because the Supreme Court doesn't know what they're talking about. Well, we can't have the same attitude is all I'm saying. And I hope that Donald Trump will toe that line.
SPEAKER 02 :
Okay, so I'm going to leave this to Neil. So adding another layer to this and different thoughts going on and even my own. And I think I know where I stand on this. I think you guys are probably going to know where I stand on this.
SPEAKER 04 :
Let me just say no before you begin, but go ahead. Okay.
SPEAKER 02 :
Blowing up cartel boats as they're coming, you know, close to the U.S. soil. What are your thoughts on that one, Neil?
SPEAKER 04 :
no uh what i okay so you got a cartel but you think it's a cartel boat you think that these people are criminals and you think they're part of a gang and you think they're carrying drugs and you think they're headed to the united states but are we 100 sure so well let's just like so far they found all sorts of drugs in the water after it was blown up so i think that one was pretty well confirmed that it was good oh good but has anyone in u.s history ever done that before no okay donald trump is so He likes to rattle the sabers saying, you know, I'm in charge and you won't you won't ever try to bring something that's going to harm the American people. And we should be grateful that we have a president that wants to protect us from all the fentanyl and everything that could kill 100,000 people. I'm on board with that part. But the idea of just shooting them from the sky, just blowing them up and kind of making light of it. I hope they know exactly what they're doing because it would be tremendously tragic. What if somebody made a mistake on something like that? There is no due process involved in a situation like that.
SPEAKER 03 :
Bob, your thoughts? Well, I'm going to disagree with Neil. Oh, okay. Yeah, let's shoot people out of the sky. All right. Yeah. You know what? I'll tell you why. Because when you have drugs flooding into this country, and that is a way that they're flooding into the country, and we've already seen that boats that have been shot out of the water like this have, in fact, been carrying boatloads of cocaine and fentanyl and things like that. Here's an idea. If you're going to be stupid enough – to load up a bunch of, oh, I don't know, cooking supplies, okay, on a boat for a pleasure trip and go racing toward the United States, okay, with a bunch of boxes of stuff. No, you're taking a stupid risk, right? Guess what? If the president of the United States is standing there in Secret Service and you go charging toward the president and people are yelling, stop, stop, and you go charging at him anyway and start reaching in your pocket for something, you know something? You're going to get shot. Secret Service is going to shoot you. And it's like, well, I was just reaching for a pen so he could sign an autograph. OK, no, chances are that person was attacking the president. And so if you're stupid enough to go charging after the United States in a speedboat with a whole bunch of cargo that nobody knows what it is and you're refusing orders to stop, then, yeah, when this is a regular thing happening in the United States, you take him out. I'm going to push back on you, Bubba. Here we go. All right. Take your best shot, pal. Okay. John's just going to join me, okay? I got the popcorn out. We're just getting up on you, Neil.
SPEAKER 04 :
No, I'm going to approach this from a libertarian angle. He's going to agree with me. Oh, here we go. That's pretty manipulative, but go ahead. Okay. No, let me just add this because, hey, we live in a world where anything can happen, right? Yeah. Well, number one, if you know they're out there, you know they're headed to the United States, arrest them when they get here. Like, just be waiting for them. Hey, guys, how you doing? We saw you out there, and now you're here, and now you're all under arrest, and we're taking your drugs. Thank you very much. We kind of could do that. I think we could do that. Well, of course.
SPEAKER 02 :
The water is a deterrent. Hang on.
SPEAKER 04 :
I had two points. We know what Hamas does, right? They hide behind women and children. Put the women and children up front so you can't shoot us. You can't blow us up. So let's just say that these gangs start putting innocent people on the boat, children, families, women, whatever. And now they got them on the boat. We just blow them all up because they're bringing drugs and people have been, you know, accosted and put on this boat. Now we're killing, for sure, innocent people that have no intention of bringing drugs over. They were taken hostage. They're part of the whole scenario. So we still blow them up.
SPEAKER 03 :
That just shows how evil they are. Those innocent civilians' deaths are on their – it's on their shoulders. Just like with Hamas, the answer isn't to say, well, then I guess we won't take out the Hamas missile silos because they put them in residential neighborhoods. No, unfortunately – I don't like collateral damage. That sounds like a pretty cold-hearted thing, but that's a reality of war. All right. And if Hamas is so despicable that they're going to use civilians as human shields and launch their missiles from residential neighborhoods, unfortunately, civilians are going to get killed. But that's on Hamas. The answer isn't to say, well, then, OK, then I guess human shields work. And I don't think we should let drug cartels and dealers and smugglers think, you know, civilians work. Human shields work.
SPEAKER 04 :
Would it be wise for him to get congressional approval because you use the word war? And I don't think that Donald Trump can declare war on anybody by himself.
SPEAKER 02 :
Meaning he's got the authority to do that. Am I right, Bob?
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Yeah, this is in fact a terrorism kind of thing. And so, yeah, he does have the responsibility and the authority to protect the people of the United States, okay, from all enemies, foreign and domestic. And so this isn't an official declaration of war on a particular nation, but this is targeting individual terrorists and criminals who are attempting to kill American citizens. All right, think of it this way. What if... What if instead of cocaine and fentanyl over here, what if they had a dirty bomb, a dirty nuclear bomb, and they were speeding toward the United States? And we had good reason to believe that there was, as Neil, as you said earlier, we think it's a nuclear bomb, but technically we can't confirm it. But we do know that when we've shot them out of the water before, they did have dirty nuclear bombs on there. And so there's a good reason to believe, there's probable cause to believe this is nuclear. Do we say, well, unless I have 100% confirmation, let's just go ahead and let them make it to land, and maybe we'll be able to arrest them, and maybe we won't.
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And I want to add another layer to this, too, because the other thing you have to look at with all of this, Neil, is the way they're doing this. And this kind of goes back to Bob's point. I mean, the reality is these are not pleasure boats. These are not yachts. These are like converted cigarette boats that the average person really doesn't even own. And these guys are going in international waters from – They can track them. They're coming out of South America. They're running up around the coast. They're headed to the United States of America. I mean, I'm sorry, Neil, but at the end of the day, you pretty much know what they're doing because the average person isn't going to do what these guys are doing. It's one of the ways they've got to actually run drugs in the United States of America. And I know I'm typically that libertarian that would say, yeah, we need due process. We need this. We need that. You know, not when these guys knowingly are bringing drugs in the United States of America that have the opportunity, by the way, to kill. And what you just said a little bit ago, Neil, is correct. Hundreds of thousands of Americans, at the end of the day, blow them out of the water. I'm fine with that.
SPEAKER 03 :
It's walking and quacking like a duck.
SPEAKER 04 :
So if a member of one of the South American drug cartels happens to get across the border illegally, as soon as he steps foot on American soil, we just shoot him? Because he's here.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah, it wouldn't hurt my feelings any. In fact, my feeling on this, and I've been saying this for years, why we've allowed this drug trafficking end of things, and we know who a lot of these people are, why we've allowed them to get by with the things that they get by with, I think Trump is very well right in claiming these folks as terrorist organizations, which changes the law around even the due process end of things. Like it or not, those are the laws that we have. And we can go back on that one all the way back to the Patriot Act and so on. And no, I'm not a big fan of some of that. But in this particular case, you've got these guys designated as terrorists, which I believe, by the way, they are. And keep in mind, these cartels, they are out for blood. They're even now kidnapping Americans on Mexican soil and so on to try to get back at the Trump administration. So at the end of the day, this is an all out war and these guys need to be stopped. I've never understood why. I mean, I know Mexico is corrupt. I know their government is corrupt, but why they've allowed these cartels to get as big And I'll just tell you straight up, the biggest reason they're as big as they are today is because no one like Trump ever came along and put them in their place. That's the biggest reason.
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By the way, a second cousin to this debate is the capital punishment debate. All right. Yes, you can have people on death row that are actually innocent and slip through the system and end up getting killed anyway. All right. I understand that. That's tragic. We try to stop that from happening. But for the most part, the death penalty is a deterrent. It lets people know, man, if I do this, if I kill this cop, I'm going to get killed myself. All right. And so if it can function as a deterrent, Yes. And in the same way, I want to send a message to anybody thinking about driving a speedboat to the United States with a bunch of fentanyl and cocaine that can kill hundreds of thousands of people. Don't do it because a missile may just take you out of the water.
SPEAKER 02 :
I want to make sure really quick that I'm clear on this. These are not like pleasure craft. This is not, you know, your guy on a sailboat and his wife and kids that are coming from South America back up to the U.S. By the way, those are all charted and lined out and they get approval to do so. Everybody knows where they're at and so on. I mean, it's not that difficult, Neil, to figure out where these guys are coming from and who they are. That's my point.
SPEAKER 04 :
OK, but could the pleasure craft be mule boats? I mean, we don't really know until you check it out. But if you just blow them out of the water, then.
SPEAKER 02 :
hopefully you're right and god willing you're not wrong well in any case keep in mind and this is out of the water they're blowing out of the water boats that fit the absolute profile the normal profile of a drug running boat that's what i was going to say those are the ones i mean the reality you know neil is these are boats that are and i know a little bit about the drug world from you know a knowing some people that have been in that end of things and i'm don't get me started i can go down all sorts and your weekend life yeah my weekend life yeah exactly so reality is these are highly modified vessels that are able to carry a lot of drugs and do things that you wouldn't normally be able to do in a typical boat of that fashion and trust me The surveillance on these guys, I'm sure, is huge. Now, I don't know that I have an answer back to you, Neil, on, OK, why don't we just wait for them to land and then we'll take care of it there? Keep in mind that in international waters, Trump's got a little different. Let me say it this way. He's got more leeway in international waters to take care of these guys than he does when they land on our soil.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, all right. But nevertheless, these are people made in the image of God. I'm not trying to get all spiritual here. I'm just saying they're also human beings.
SPEAKER 02 :
They're meeting their maker, so, you know, all good.
SPEAKER 1 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 03 :
Except Jesus. If you're going to drive a speedboat here, you better accept Jesus because you may see him any second. Okay.
SPEAKER 04 :
Two things really quick. I know that we're short on time, but super quick. Yeah. Again, the midterms are coming. And I don't know that the vast majority of the American people are going to say shoot first, ask questions when you're cleaning up the debris. Like, I don't think that they're really going to support that overall. And that could cost Trump in the elections.
SPEAKER 03 :
Secondarily, I don't think actually real quick. It's not shoot first, ask questions later. It's ask questions first. Like, does this boat fit the profile? Is everything about it exactly like I get it, but you could ask first and then the order is given. but you could be wrong. So anyway, I mean, you're not a hundred percent. Jeff penalty could be wrong with some people too.
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In this thought-provoking episode of Rush to Reason, host John Rush is joined by Dr. Scott Faulkner and guests to challenge the conventional routines of modern men. They explore the perils of slipping into passivity and discuss effective ways to build strong familial bonds. Tune in as they explore life's distractions and reveal profound insights on aligning with personal and spiritual values.
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Welcome back listeners, Dr. Scott Faulkner and friends. We have Regina Mae Britt. You got two last names, so...
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Well, I'm Regina Ney professionally. And if you look me up, I'm Regina Ney, N as in Nancy, A-Y. But I'm married to a wonderful husband who supports my career. Yes, Sean.
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And I added the Brit. Shout out to Sean.
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Yes, Sean Brit. So I take that with pride. But I am professionally Regina Ney.
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Okay.
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So whatever, whatever.
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Yeah. Just don't call you late for dinner. Yeah. And then we have Jeremy Sova.
SPEAKER 14 :
Great to be back for a third hour, and I think this is our 10th episode since May. So time's flying, but we have so much more ground to cover.
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Yeah, I was just showing you, people can't see this, but we have about a two-page outline of bullet points that we were going to hit, and we hit maybe a third of it. Of the first page. Of the first page. So, yes, a lot more to come on future episodes. But I would tease this in the very first hour when we started and we had that moment of silence for Charlie Kirk, and I appreciate you guys allowing us to do that. But a lot of folks are just getting in their cars, heading home. Please drive safely. The sun's about to set in the west, bright, so just be extra cautious out there. But I wanted to take this final hour – And really call out men. I make no bones about the fact that I am a Christian, that my Lord and Savior is Jesus Christ, and I know where I'm going to go. If I were to meet a fate like Charlie Kirk, like Charlie, I am solid in my faith. And what I am seeing is an epidemic of weak men. Especially Younger men, Gen Zs, millennials, my heart aches for my daughters because the choices of men is so slim. These guys are playing video games. You guys are spending a lot of time watching sports. You're drinking alcohol on the weekends. Guys who are married are not investing in their families. you think that it's okay to spend three hours cheering for a team that maybe it was your alma mater, does absolutely nothing for you. You've graduated from college or university. That's great that you went to the university of whatever. Get the little thing off your license plate. Nobody really cares where you went to college, by the way. Take off the sweatshirt. You're no longer a co-ed. Start to man up and take care of your family like God commanded you to. It's hard. Yes, I understand that you spend hours working through the week and, oh, geez, nobody understands what I do, so I'm going to decompress on the weekends. I'm going to sit down and I'm going to watch this mindless sport that I used to play in my glory days, and I'm going to drink a six-pack, and I'm not going to spend time with my wife and kids. And, geez, I wonder why my wife doesn't want to fool around. Because I'm getting liquored up and I'm watching a mindless sport for three hours and she's looking at you sitting on the couch going, dude, really? Gross. Why don't you grow up and lead your family? Why don't we go hiking in the mountains? We live in Colorado. Why don't we go for a bike ride? Get out in the fresh air. Connection. Why don't you teach your kids how to shoot so they don't become an Antifa member getting stupid and shooting people, right? Learn the respect. That's what my dad did for me of what does a firearm do?
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or role model for your children how to not check out.
SPEAKER 04 :
Thank you very much. Why not go to church on Sunday, be that man, and, oh, well, I can't find a church that I like. Well, keep looking.
SPEAKER 14 :
It'll find you if you put the effort in.
SPEAKER 04 :
That's exactly right. Oh, I'm going to go chase a little white ball for four hours with my friends. No offense, Jeremy. Oh, I feel attacked.
SPEAKER 14 :
Ten times a year.
SPEAKER 04 :
Come on, Doc. But you're taking your son with you. It's that father-son time.
SPEAKER 14 :
That's right. Or my wife's in the cart with me, and she's enjoying the day out there. Even if she's not playing, we have four hours together in the cart, in that connection. She loves it now. In the beginning, it was a... Oh, I'm just going to sit there. And then all of a sudden, you've got the cart, and you've got the food, and you've got the sunshine. You've got the camaraderie with other people. And now she loves it. And eventually, she wants to learn how to play the game, probably in retirement for her, because it's a hard game to learn.
SPEAKER 01 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 14 :
the time together is the point here. That's like, even if, if you do like football, take your wife and kids to the Broncos game, get the hot dogs and, you know, and get the water and the sugar-free Gatorade and enjoy that family time together versus to your point, sitting on the couch, drinking a six pack, yelling at your wife to quiet down because it's third down and you want to make sure that, you know, that they get the stop. So there's, There's different ways to skin the same cat in the eyes of the Lord. And I'm going to admit that, like all of us, we're sinners. I'm a sinner. And I was raised very strict, devout Catholic. Dad was a Catholic altar boy, fire and brimstone. I wasn't allowed to talk to the Baptist kids or, God forbid, the Church of Latter-day Saints kids. And then I went to college and, you know, got indoctrinated and educated like a lot of people. And then I got into the workforce and worked my tail off. And then I got to the point where, you know, I realized that there was some loss. You know, I lost some folks or I lost some friends. And I always knew I could turn to the Lord. He was always there. And every time, every time in my life that I prayed for something important, it came true. Every time, whether it was a month, a week, a year later, it had to do with back pain or health or family. So then the bullet grazes President Trump's ear. I guess he was President-elect Trump at the time or running for the second term. Looked up at the border data and it grazes his ear. That was divine intervention. That was the Holy Trinity, God, Jesus, putting their arms around him and turning his head slightly so he could do everything he's doing to help our country. And that woke me up. And then Charlie Kirk gets assassinated three weeks ago. And that made me stand up. I went into my bookshelf of hundreds of books in my office, and I pulled the Bible down that I hadn't opened in 30 years. And I started reading it cover to cover. I'm about 35% through, and I'm reading the Old Testament and the New in parallel. And I am now putting everything that I have into becoming a better man. And I got a long way to go. But you got to start somewhere. And the healthier you get your body and your mind and your spirit, the physiological changes that you're going to put into place with everything that we're talking about on this podcast... coupled with your spiritual belief and faith in the one and only Jesus Christ, things will start to fall into place that you cannot believe. And I'm speaking from experience, and it's recent experience as well. And my new quote is, any time that I feel a little anxious or a little upset, give it to God. It's that simple. Give it to God.
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So I sort of had one of those... Pardon the expression. Come to Jesus moments. And it was actually my wife. And because I was a diehard Bronco fan, right? I was three sport athlete through my whole life. Things just came naturally to me. My dad never missed. He missed, I think, two games in all those years. And I remember that. Right. And he died at 45. But one day the Broncos had played. It was on a Sunday. So yes, we went to church, but we got to get home really fast and quiet everybody. And we're watching the Broncos. And of course they lost in like the last two minutes after they'd won a couple of Super Bowls. Then the team started to just go downhill. And Judy looked at me one day and she said, you know what? When the Broncos lose, you're a pain in the ass to be around. Yeah.
SPEAKER 14 :
Because you took it personally for no reason. I mean, there was a reason.
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She was right. I was in a surly mood the rest of the day. And it was like somebody punched me between the eyes. And I stopped, and I looked at her, and she says, I'll tell you what. And this is back when Pat Bolan, before he had Alzheimer's and died, when he was the owner. She says, when Pat Bolan pays you a million dollars to give him advice on the Broncos, I'll let you care. Wow. That's awesome. And that was the wake-up call that I needed. It's like, you're right. Whether they win or lose, it has absolutely no bearing on my life. So we started going on hikes and biking. And then I got the golf cart because my girls were taking lessons. Because back in Fort Morgan, we were right above the country club. And I was in hog heaven. I'm like, oh, the girls are playing. Judy's starting to play. Our son Jacob, who we had just adopted, he didn't know what he wanted to do. He just was happy to be on the cart. And I'm like, I get to chase this little white ball because in my mind I was Tiger Woods. Not even close. And so but after about five times this time of year, I would come squealing into the driveway, right, and get out of the hospital, come home, and then say, girls, get on the golf cart. Let's go. And we didn't care if we started on the seventh hole or the 17th hole. So long as I was chasing a little white ball, I was happy, right, if we get three holes in or whatever.
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Just playing with each other.
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Just playing and being there together. And then my daughters looked at me and said, Daddy, we don't like golf like you do. And I was crushed because I had just gotten the membership. I got the golf cart. I had the extended seat put on there. I was like, what? But I had to make a decision right then and there. Do I sacrifice my family on the altar of that little white ball and spend two to four hours away from them? Or do they win? I sold everything. I said, we'll find other things to do. So then the girls started getting into horses and rodeo and things like that. And I thought, you know, this is a great life lesson because I grew up outside of Fort Collins and we had horses. I said, I want my girls to learn to take care of something bigger than themselves. Whether it's snowy, cold, or whatever, that animal is relying on you.
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That's a huge responsibility.
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It's exactly right. But it taught them that lesson. So that was my journey.
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What a great purpose.
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So when we come back from the break, Regina, I want to hear what your dad, the Marine, did for you. So we'll be right back. You're listening to Dr. Scott Faulkner with Regina and Jeremy filling in for John Rush.
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This is Rush to Reason on KLZ 560. Welcome back, listeners. You're listening to Dr. Scott Faulkner on this Health and Wellness Wednesday. And this is part of that wellness that is the health and wellness part. Focusing on calling out men really to start to steal their spine. The Lord says that we are supposed to be bold like a lion. And if you go into Revelation chapter 21, I think it's verse 8, the Lord lists all the things that he hates. And did you know on that list, the very first thing that the Lord hates is a coward. I learned that from my brother. He was the guy who went after Osama bin Laden seven times. And I'm like, really? And so I broke open my Bible and I went there and I'm like, I'll be darned. You're right. So do not be a coward. So Regina, you are going to give us your perspective on all of this.
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Right. So you mentioned my father growing up. I love that you gave us your experience, Dr. Faulkner, in reference to how your wife called you out because she's your teammate.
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Yeah.
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She's your teammate. And that's what a relationship is, a partnership. It's a team. And you have that comfort with Judy. And that's beautiful. This is what we strive for. And I feel that that is not happening. We're not able to call each other out. And listen, truly listen to what's behind. You listen to Judy. You listen to her. What she was telling you is to be better. And that's what we want. We want someone to help us be better, not to stay stagnant, to stay in our darkness. And that spiritually, that's what happens is we become dark. We become dark with the same habits, the same habitual things that we think that we're relaxing. And you're not relaxing. You're actually creating a isolated behavior that you're detached from the things that are actually going to help you live and be present. And we're detached.
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That's true. I mean, think about all the times you go out to dinner. In a family of four, all four of them are just staring at their phones.
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I get upset.
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On Valentine's Day, a couple to our right never looked at each other their whole dinner. They were in their phones on Valentine's Day.
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Because they were putting a checkmark in a box. I went out to dinner on Valentine's Day. Right.
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Now, we have a rule when we go out with couples. Everybody puts their phones in the middle of the table. First person to grab it pays the bill. I love it. And it's incredible. These things are so helpful, and they're giving us the AI to help us reverse our age. But they're weapons at the same time.
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You need to learn boundaries. And that's the problem is I think as humans, and this is where the weakness, the coward behaviors come in, is we're not holding ourselves accountable to be better. And what does that mean? Check how much you are on social media. Take accountability. If you're on it for three to four hours a day, you're basically detached three to four hours a day of opportunity to be there in a relationship with your wife, to be there in a relationship with your children who are actually watching you. And what are you doing? You're role modeling detachment. And then you're teaching your child to be present. Good luck with that. Good luck role modeling detachment behavior. And your child... is being told verbally, be present. Hey, pay attention. Hey, did I have to repeat myself? Well. Look at you. You're checked out. You're checked out. Oh, because I worked all week and I did all this this week. Okay, what do you want, a medal? I'll give you a medal. I'll give you a hug. Now get over it.
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Yeah, right.
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Get over it and learn that the only way you're going to have a successful relationship is by being present and having boundaries with yourself, learning to check in, not check out, learning to check out with your family, just like you said, golf, switching it up. Hey, everybody, I really am into golf. All right. Does anybody else want to practice that? And then, Dr. Faulkner, you mentioned this example. What if your family is not into golf? What if they try it and they don't like it? Well, you know what? We're a team. Let's come up with a game plan. Everyone put an idea in a glass jar. And we're going to try one thing once a month, but we're going to try it for a month together. And everybody gets to express themselves and be involved in this team.
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Yeah. Yeah, we'll give one small carve out because these phones aren't going anywhere. No, they're not. So, like, for instance, my wife and I will flirt with each other using Instagram reels and memes.
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That's what my husband and I do. Yep.
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You know, so it's not all bad. No. It's how you use the tool. Right. Right. Like, don't use the hammer other than to put the nail in the wall, not for anything bad. But it can be used for good. It could. If you just pay attention. Yeah. and like listen to your gut and listen to your mind and make sure that you're moving the relationship stronger and down, you know, downfield or whatever. He's a sports analogy.
SPEAKER 13 :
Um, when you have to remember that too, is whatever you are taking in with your senses, your five senses, you're taking it in and your brain is processing it. Here we go into the science. It's, it's D it's, Either removing dopamine and serotonin or adding to dopamine. We are happiness. Happiness, dopamine, serotonin. And when you're watching this, you are adding to this emotional response system. And what happens when you stop watching it? You think that emotional response system is like, okay, I'm done watching that. I'm going to go be a balanced, calm, peaceful person. Because that's what creates happiness in a relationship. It's actually not being happy. It's being calm and peaceful. But you are all... You're amped up. Oh, you're jacked up after watching whatever your reels are. And then your wife is having an emotional thing that happens. Oh, I can't take this. I worked all week to watch all this on the thing. I watched the Denver Broncos. They lost. The Broncos team lost. Oh, I'm just going to stay in silence.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 13 :
Detach.
SPEAKER 04 :
Or I'm going to drink.
SPEAKER 13 :
Week after week after week of that behavior. Now we got detachment in a marriage. There's a couples counselor. They're Gottman. I don't know if you guys have heard of them. Gottman. Wonderful. They're a couple that do couples therapy and therapy. It's called the four horsemen. And one of the four horsemen is that detachment, is the ability to not be seen, that you just ignore your partner because, oh, they're happy. They're doing their thing. I'm doing my thing. It becomes two absent people living in a home that are creating a family. And that is not family. It's not detached. It's not living in a house. It's not family.
SPEAKER 04 :
There's silos.
SPEAKER 13 :
There's silos inside of the same house.
SPEAKER 04 :
So is that when the kids all leave the house, they go to college or whatever, they look at each other and say, who are you? I have nothing in common with you.
SPEAKER 13 :
That's right. This is where also affairs happen. This is where the person wants to look for something exciting because their dopamine needs something.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, and guys get it with their porn or video games, right?
SPEAKER 13 :
Right. Again, detaching. It's all detaching and not being present. And when you train your brain to be detached, and that's all you know, you repeat the vicious cycle. And again, it's a weak option, but it's an option they think that's only there. And in reality, if you put the work in to be present with your relationship... then you will have this relationship. You watch like on TV shows, you'll be happy with each other. You'll be a team together. You'll be able to have that wonderful close the bedroom door life that men want, that I often hear get complaints, my wife doesn't wanna have sex with me. And I'm like, well, what are we doing to create a playground for that? What are we doing to create an intimacy beyond the physical intimacy of that? Where's the friendship? Are you checking in at least three times a week with your wife? What does that mean? Are you sitting there being with her?
SPEAKER 14 :
Really being there.
SPEAKER 13 :
Are you being there? Are you being present?
SPEAKER 14 :
Being in the moment.
SPEAKER 13 :
That's right. The flirting. The flirting. All the stuff that when you first met. That's right. And then you change it up too.
SPEAKER 14 :
I call it kind of your representative phase, right? You put on your best self for the first 90 days to a year that you're together. Then you kind of settle into yourself. Well, be that person in the first 90 days for the course of the relationship.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah. And basically, the first two hours, that's what we're trying to recreate on the physical side for folks. That's right. Right? Because let's face it. You've been in marriage for 10, 15, 20 years. Guy, you've put on 30 or 40 pounds. You're not that star quarterback anymore. Ladies, you've had a couple of children. And I know we've already discussed this, why it's so much harder for ladies to lose a little weight. But then... Guys, testosterone level is terrible in the dumps. That's exactly right, ladies. Your thyroid may be off. Your vitamin D is down. And you just kind of are existing. You take the kids here or there, and your kids are, no offense, they're brats or they don't want to have anything to do with you because you've already checked out on them. Because dad is watching the Broncos on Sunday or golf or whatever it is. Mom, you're busy shuttling kids here, there, and everywhere and then hanging out with your friends. And there's no cohesion or anything like that. So here's my suggestion. Why don't you guys do this together as a family? First off, Regina, I loved your idea of putting ideas in a bowl. Whether it's you guys starting to take up a martial art like Brazilian jiu-jitsu or something like that. All start to roll. Or go up in the mountains. Go hiking. Skiing season is coming together. Pretty soon we'll have snow. Go up there and ski or sled. Something like that. Get four-wheelers.
SPEAKER 13 :
Get motorcycles. That's the thing. As humans, we know there are options. And that's accountability.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 13 :
stop saying i don't know what to do look for what you want we live in a day and age where the answers are all there yeah go bowling go bowling yeah i don't like bowling well maybe one of your kids will and then you learn to like it right because you're watching them enjoy it right and that's another thing is i think parents are not understanding you're helping your child survive on this earth without needing to be needy they can be self-sufficient and also self-regulate it and be present that's what you want to teach your children
SPEAKER 14 :
And lead by example.
SPEAKER 13 :
Lead by example.
SPEAKER 14 :
Like just this last week, you know, I've been going into Dr. Faulkner's hyperbaric oxygen therapy chamber and fixing, you know, my insulin resistance and helping my brain health. And I cured my son's broken wrist in 24 days. He's playing hockey on Friday night. Orthopedics blown away. Wow. That's not possible.
SPEAKER 13 :
I love when they say this.
SPEAKER 14 :
He heals. He's young. He heals good. So I've been taking my Bible in for my sessions. And I did three sessions with him this week. And the first two he took in his honors chemistry book, which is great, right? He's doing his homework in there. Well, the third day, you know, they're coming up on fall break. So his stuff is all caught up. I'm like, what are you reading now? And he turns it and it's a Bible. And I was touched. I was like, wow. Like, I led by example. And he's following my lead.
SPEAKER 13 :
I don't think men understand how powerful the Father is.
SPEAKER 14 :
And it sounds like I'm so amazed by it.
SPEAKER 13 :
And I shouldn't be, but I am.
SPEAKER 14 :
Like, it was that little example right there.
SPEAKER 05 :
Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER 14 :
And our kids are watching us all the time. And he's asking me questions. You know, Dad, look, they're talking about, you know, the olives being squished. Is that the olive oil that you're eating? And all kinds. He's making philosophical connections, and he's critical thinking. And, you know, he's asking if, you know, Jesus talking about the scriptures are the ones, you know, from Abraham and Jacob. Yeah. It's really cool to have that one experience.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, you're teaching him that inner voice, that beautiful inner voice that's going to last him into adulthood for him to be able to hold space for himself and then hold space for others, his loved ones. Right. I mean, you don't learn that in school. You learn that in your family.
SPEAKER 14 :
That's right. And we're learning together. I don't have all the answers.
SPEAKER 13 :
Right.
SPEAKER 14 :
I'm like, well, when we get out of this thing and we can turn our phones on, let's ask AI. So it's really good to have that type of connection.
SPEAKER 04 :
That's fantastic. It is. So we've got to take another break. Sorry, guys. But when we come back, another sore spot in marriages is finances. So I want to hit on that when we come back.
SPEAKER 14 :
Number one reason for divorce.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yes, sir. So we'll be right back. You're listening to Dr. Scott Faulkner filling in for John Rush, Health and Wellness Wednesdays. See you on the backside.
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Welcome back, listeners. Dr. Scott Faulkner with Regina and Jeremy. We've got about a half an hour to go, so we want to keep giving you guys great information that you can use on the health side but now the wellness side and maybe to strengthen your marriages, guys, to get you to step up and be the man that you're supposed to be. Ladies, don't be that nagging Karen to your husbands. They're struggling. Help them. Compassion. Compassion. Thank you very much. That's right. Compassion. So if somebody has a comment, you can give us a call in the last half an hour, the 303-477-5600. We'd love to hear what maybe you've done to help your marriage along. But in this segment, I wanted to talk about finances because, Jeremy, you said it. It is the number one reason for divorce. And so... I was, and I'll use myself again, okay? And no, I'm not perfect. You're exactly right. But I've come a long ways from the guy 27 years ago that married my bride. If you've ever heard of Dave Ramsey, and who has not heard of Dave Ramsey? I was the free spirit in the relationship. She was the Dave Ramsey and she's the nerd. That's right. And so, you know, when Brooke and Kaylee, they were little before Jacob came along, we would go to Walmart and the girls would be like, daddy, uh, I want this DVD. And I'm like, Yeah, okay, sure, right? Because I'm a sucker for my girls. I will do anything for those girls. My husband is the same. And they knew it. And so my wife, she's like, you've got to knock that crap off because you're going to raise a couple of spoiled brats. And so but me being me, I couldn't say no to my daughters. And the other thing that I noticed is that, you know, I just come out of the Air Force, started a new practice and I didn't know about quarterly taxes. And I thought I was doing really well until I got a letter from the IRS saying, oh, by the way, you need to pay us a lot of money. And I had to take a second mortgage out to pay it. That was the wake up call. that I was too much of a free spirit and I didn't have a handle because my parents never taught me money management. And so at our church, there was the Dave Ramsey Financial Peace University course. And so Judy and I went through it together, and we got the little envelopes. And that was the first time we had a budget.
SPEAKER 14 :
That's great. I cannot believe that still in 2025 that the private schools and the public schools do not have personal finance as one of the most important courses that you're teaching these kids. They can't even balance a checkbook when they graduate and go off to college.
SPEAKER 04 :
Personal finance is so important. Do you think it's by design? The system?
SPEAKER 14 :
Do you think it's by design? I do. Driven by the credit card companies?
SPEAKER 04 :
Correct.
SPEAKER 14 :
Probably. Yes. But the private schools should know better. They should. I'm not going to call out the one my kid goes to, but they're not teaching it yet either.
SPEAKER 04 :
But maybe they don't know, right? Ignorance is bliss. Ignorance. So if they don't know, how are they going to teach your kids? And so they live this life that so many people do, like I was, that free spirit, and you live paycheck to paycheck. And at the end of the... The month, you're like, well, where did all my money go? Because I do fairly well, but I must have, I don't know, until you actually sit down and you do a budget and you tell every dollar where to go. So that is my plug for people who are struggling in your marriage. Maybe you're that couple that you need to sit down and actually start to budget, right? Tell your money what to do.
SPEAKER 14 :
You will lose your mind on waste that you find. Oh, yeah. Like, check these kids' phones for subscriptions. Oh, my goodness. I mean, they'll open up an app, and Apple will charge your credit card $9.99 a month, and you won't even notice it, and they haven't opened that app in, like, 14 months.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, I'm going to revisit. Checked in. That's the thing. We're revisiting this again. It's don't be checked out. Be present. That means everything you do, have your five senses involved. What do you see that you're doing? How do you hear how you're doing? Do you taste it? Do you smell it? Do you feel it? When we make choices in our life, Are you connected with that choice? Are you just blindly making these choices?
SPEAKER 14 :
And what you're going to find is you sit down and do this budget and you're going to get the HSA account or the FSA account and you're going to say, oh my goodness, I can afford to take 10 years off of my loan.
SPEAKER 13 :
I know because a common thing I hear from my clients, I don't have the money for that. I'm like, oh, yeah? So I actually invite them. I said, I would like you to write down all your bills. I want to see how you're spending your money. And they look at me like almost offended. I'm like, you want me to help with your mental health and your well-being? You're spending $140 a week on Starbucks. Then you need accountability.
SPEAKER 14 :
For burnt, bitter coffee.
SPEAKER 13 :
So it's funny that you say it. And calling inflammation.
SPEAKER 04 :
It's causing inflammation. Because mold in the coffee.
SPEAKER 13 :
Lots of mold in that coffee.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yes. You need purity coffee. Yes.
SPEAKER 13 :
But I had this one case. This woman was spending a good... $500 a month on Starbucks.
SPEAKER 04 :
Easy.
SPEAKER 13 :
Easy. And she was saying, I don't have money to go get vitamin D shots.
SPEAKER 04 :
Who are trying to trans our kids. Oh my God. Right? So folks, get rid of Netflix.
SPEAKER 14 :
I mean, seriously, open up, grab your iPhone, open up the subscriptions tab and the three dots on the top right. I've done this twice. All your kids and even yourself and look at the subscriptions. I guarantee you're going to find at least a couple hundred dollars a year that you have no idea that you're even paying.
SPEAKER 13 :
And what a great opportunity, a lesson for a family discussion to sit down, print it out. See, do you see all these subscriptions? Do you realize this is money? Well, you know what? You want these subscriptions, you're going to pay for it.
SPEAKER 04 :
Accountability. That's what I did to Brooke and Kaylee is now when they had back in cash days, right? We'd have the envelopes and we would go to Walmart and the girl's like, Daddy, I want this dolly or I want whatever, this video. And I'm like, how much money do you have in your envelopes? They're like, huh? I'm like, that's right. I never gave allowances, right? I don't give people money just for existing, even if you're in my household. You have to do something. You take care of the pets. You cut the grass. Cut the grass. That's exactly right. So it's called a commission. Mm-hmm. You and I work. We get paid for when we work. You work. You get paid. You don't get paid just to suck air. To exist. To exist. That's right. So it was fun because now my girls, they would look at it and look at the money. Yes, you work for the federal government.
SPEAKER 13 :
Do I want to spend my money?
SPEAKER 04 :
Do I want to spend my money on this piece of junk out of China or do I want to save it up for something else? Right. And it taught them great money management.
SPEAKER 13 :
I love this because my father did a great job with that. He would give us money for things that we did around the house. And I became a hoarder with my money. I still, I might ask my husband, he says, baby, go, go spend money. And I'm like, uh, well, I don't really need it. I learned want versus need at a very young age. And I owe that to my father. He always said, well, you could buy that, use your money. And I'm like, What? And he'd look at me. He's like, yeah, you have $20. You could pay for that. And I would look at him and I'm like, I'm not spending my money. He was like, well, I'm not spending my money. It doesn't look like you need it. And I'm like, he always repeated that. You don't need it then. You don't need it. If you don't want to spend your money, you don't need it. And I grew up with that root in my mind when I go shopping. And again, there's playing. I know how to play with my money, but I have a reasonable amount of what playful money is.
SPEAKER 14 :
That's because your budget shows what you can use as disposable income.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yes, yes.
SPEAKER 14 :
on the flip side of the coin, you can use your money to make more money.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 14 :
Like, so hoarding is great, but breaking off some to invest in something and make sure it's a good solid person that's helping you invest it. But compound interest is, will absolutely set up a family forever if you start in your late teens, early 20s. So don't just keep shoving it in the savings account or getting to a CD that's getting 1%. Just sitting there. Find somewhere where you can get 5%, 7%, maybe 12% return on that money.
SPEAKER 13 :
And what a great thing to do with your spouse. That's another. Yes. And this is, you know, my husband and I, we we we understand this together. He actually introduced it to me. He explained it to me. I was like, wow, this is great. We started right when my son was born. And we look at the accounts. We show my son. what we're doing. Teaching moments. Right, teaching moments. And it's opportunity for also connection, being present with the money, everyone being checked in about the money so you understand where it's going, where it's not going, and taking accountability.
SPEAKER 14 :
And then if you're going to retire at retirement age, which doesn't look great for a lot of people these days, and you budget and you invest, you get a return compound interest by the time you get there, then you can spend that time together instead of working yourself into the grave. Because as we're seeing here physiologically, by age 65, if you're not healthy, there's not much runway left. So you spent 90% of your life ignoring each other, working your tail off, ignoring your children. And then you've got nothing to show for it at the end of the day where all of a sudden you build the right plan and budget. You're 58, 63, 66, and then you can enjoy that money as a family and even have something to help boost your children to invest so they can carry it down generation to generation.
SPEAKER 04 :
getting a balanced budget, which everybody should be doing. But then he says, okay, take your money and put it in a term life insurance policy. What Dave does not tell people is that he actually sells your data to these headhunters that sell these term policies. Oh, no. Yes. And the industry tells you, oh, if you invest for the long haul at X amount of interest, if you notice the market always does this over the long haul. Well, that's where I differ with Dave because if you listen to guys like Garrett Gunderson, he wrote Killing Sacred Cows 2 and What Would the Rockefellers Do? It blows that away. So really whole life insurance is the better vehicle. And another book was How to Become Your Own Banker by Nelson – R. Nelson. It starts with an N. It's How to Become Your Own Banker. You guys can look it up. It's a small book. It's been out for a long, long time. And so that's what we have gone to now. And I showed my kids, I'm setting you up in these whole life policies. We will never need to take another loan from a bank ever again. We're having a trust. We're setting this up for generational wealth. This is why. And, oh, yeah, we created a family crest, right? And we're creating a family constitution of this is what we stand for. That's right.
SPEAKER 14 :
You've got to live to that constitution in order to unlock things.
SPEAKER 04 :
That's right. That's exactly right. Love it. We've got the clock saying we have to take another break, and then we'll come back for our final segment with some final thoughts from Regina and Jeremy and myself. And we'll be right back.
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Welcome back, listeners, to our final segment here on this Health and Wellness Wednesday approaching the 6 o'clock hour. Please be careful out there because that sun is really brutal if you're heading west. So we are talking in this last hour. I told you we were going to call out men and ladies, too, because sometimes you have a hand in these relationships if your marriage isn't doing so well. But we've given you that roadmap, hopefully, to start to change things. Maybe what you heard here today is that spark to say, you know what? We can do better. God gave us. you to me as my spouse, right? And let's start walking this journey together and set us separately under the same roof. So we've given you ways to make your health better, starting with biomarkers. Do it together as a couple. Start losing the weight. You know, guys, if you drop 20 pounds, maybe your wife might look at you and go, hey, you look a lot better. Ladies, if you get your vitamin D and your thyroid and lose 20 pounds that you put on from having kids, your husband is going to say, hey, you're that girl that I remember from a while ago. And let's check your testosterone level.
SPEAKER 13 :
When I love that you said that because it's also accountability, realizing the person you married, and I've had to tell these to people, you marry this person and there's a promise you keep to each other. There is a promise that I'm going to take care of myself and I will take care of you. Yeah, till death do us part. Well, and the thing is, is people are not taking care of themselves, but they're expecting. They're expecting this type of relationship that was in the beginning. And I'm like, can you bring me a picture of when you guys first started? What? Yes. You two do not look. Well, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, I understand that we're all going to be aging differently and stuff. But how are you taking care of yourselves to take care of each other?
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 13 :
And I love that you said it's accountability, calling each other out in a compassionate way. Again, there's a different way to do it. Because there's love. There has to be love there. And you have to tell each other, hey, is this the best you got? You got one life to live. This is the best you got, honey? Well, we need to do better. We need to do better for ourselves and each other and show up.
SPEAKER 04 :
That's exactly right. Thank you for that. Jeremy, any thoughts, especially on that financial side? Because you, let's face it, I think the audience knows that you've done well now for yourself in business. And we were talking about how I don't like Dave Ramsey's model on the investment side. So what was your advice to help these couples?
SPEAKER 14 :
On the financial side, I would say do the budget, find out where the waste is, do it together, and then figure out a way to invest, compound interest, get a return. Don't just stick it in a savings account or a CD and get 1% because inflation is going to eat that money up. Find a way to get 3%, 5%, 7%, 12%. Get yourself a buddy that's in the advising space or an accounting space. and start to put money away, even if it's $50 a month, $100 a month, and that compound interest is going to add up. Then you can invest bigger chunks and create wealth that lets you live your life because the last phase of your life after retirement is usually in poor quality, unless, of course, you follow our guidelines. We'll get you to $100. But that health span is so important and you waste most of your life running the hamster wheel, living paycheck to paycheck. So that's very important. And the more overall side of things.
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Uh-huh.
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We spent the last couple of hours talking about how to improve, but we're in the middle of a civil war now of ideals, which is, I think, more dangerous than the last civil war, which was there's a winner and there's a loser. This is dangerous. This is amongst your family members, your friends, your colleagues. People are going after each other on social media. The only way... So we're on the right side of this thing. The only way that this is going to get resolved is by us being good, doing good, killing them with kindness when you're engaged in political discussions with your family and friends and colleagues. Create a version of yourself that emits this empathy, this kindness, this understanding, no matter how much you disagree, because we know we're on the right side of this thing and God is with us. But make sure if you do engage, engage with facts, not, you know, some funny meme that some far, you know, right pundit threw at you. Like really get into the nitty gritty details and, educate them on what the regulation is in Congress or what the governor had signed or didn't sign, and share it in a friendly way away from the heated debate. And like you said, Regina, in educating them and getting them kind of to the other side, there's a different way to go about the discourse today. And factual data is the best way to start, but every single one of us knows the difference between right and wrong, between good and evil. We know it in our gut. We know it in our minds. We know it in our hearts. Our guts are not going to lie to us, so... Like I know that this particular medium, you know, is on the right side of history, but we got to gain more ground. We got to get less violence out there. And it starts in the family. It starts in the household. It starts with Christ. So that's, I'm just disgusted by seeing every day there's another, you know, Antifa engraved bullet that grazes somebody or kills them. It's really scary, but we can beat this.
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We can by all being like Charlie Kirk. That's exactly right. He was not afraid to go into the lion's den and have an intelligent discussion. And he turned a lot of people's minds and hearts—now, not everybody— Because Satan has his. We know who they are. And when your father is the father of lies, then that's why, if you're wondering, why, why is all this happening? Well, okay, well, Satan is real, and he's been given time on this planet to monkey with his.
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But even an unintended consequence of Charlie walking the walk is certain people on our side that weaponized his reels and drove certain ones without the full context into everyone's phones of these minds of these men that are aged 16 to 25 and warped their thinking based on false truths and stuff that wasn't even contextually correct. So you got to get the
SPEAKER 13 :
context but i love that you said it starts in the family we need to create this mindset for children help them exercise that way to look at things don't just look at pieces look at the hole right and if you don't have the hole then you better sit back and get the hole before you make an opinion like
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Tyler Robinson's father, poor guy, 27-year sheriff, took the kid hunting with the grandfather with a .30-06, did everything that he thought was right growing up because, you know, his son got sucked in to this world that he didn't even understand or grow up in. Mm-hmm. And he ended up not taking the reward money. He gave it to Erica, and he resigned from the force because he took that as a father personally, that he was at fault for something that his son was indoctrinated by these evil forces coming through these phones. It's heartbreaking.
SPEAKER 04 :
Fair enough, but I hate to say this, but folks, your government hates you. And if you actually believe the story that Tyler did this the way our government said he did it, if he did, then I've got a bridge I want to sell you. Fair enough. Your government hates you, right? Think about this. Antifa runs around in Oregon and Chicago and places like that. Don't you think that our FBI, with all of their resources, could infiltrate that group? They could find out where the money's coming from and shut it down overnight if they chose to. Instead of trying to do it the hard way like we're seeing every day. Correct. Right? They talk all this good stories. Cash is out there. I believe in the men and women of the FBI. We're going to hold these people accountable. And you have Pam Bondi over here. Yes, heads are going to roll. And you have Lindsey Graham. Yeah, enough of this stuff. And they spied on us. It's like, dude, they've been spying on us since the Patriot Act was passed. But now suddenly you care because it's you that was getting wiretapped. What about the millions of us? And if you, FBI, wanted to shut this crap down, you would have shut it down a long time ago, which tells me you actually are on their side. You want this, us fighting against each other. So I'm not a big fan of our government. That's why you need, as a man, to start to step up, lead your family, open their eyes, have the discussion on social media, put it down, start doing things for Christ.
SPEAKER 13 :
Be present.
SPEAKER 04 :
Be present. Thank you, Regina.
SPEAKER 14 :
Thank you for this particular segment, too. It really hit home. You're welcome.
SPEAKER 04 :
So our three hours are up. Thank you again for listening to us, guys. Dr. Scott Faulkner with Regina, Nate Britt, and Jeremy Sova. We're signing off. We'll join you probably in another month in November.
HR2 Dr. Scott: Forget Quick Fixes—Know Your Biomarkers. Blueprint to Lasting Energy & Weight Loss 10-8-25 by John Rush
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This is Rush to Reason. You are going to shut your damn yapper and listen for a change because I got you pegged, sweetheart. You want to take the easy way out because you're scared. And you're scared because if you try and fail, there's only you to blame. Let me break this down for you. Life is scary. Get used to it. There are no magical fixes. With your host, John Rush. My advice to you is to do what your parents did! Get a job, Turk! You haven't made everybody equal. You've made them the same, and there's a big difference.
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Let me tell you why you're here. You're here because you know something. What you know you can't explain, but you feel it. You've felt it your entire life, that there's something wrong with the world. You don't know what it is, but it's there. It is this feeling that has brought you to me.
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Are you crazy? Am I? Or am I so sane that you just blew your mind?
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It's Rush to Reason with your host, John Rush, presented by Cub Creek Heating and Air Conditioning.
SPEAKER 05 :
Welcome to Hour 2, folks. It's Dr. Scott Faulkner filling in for John Rush with my friend Jeremy Sova. If you missed the first hour because you were in an office or doing something, you're on a tractor or playing with the dogs and cats, we're giving you the roadmap to overall great health. We're not going into deep dives, but people have asked, okay, what does this system look like? Because it is, in a sense, it's a system. There's things that we can do along the way to start to get you to feel better, lose weight, happier, healthier, the whole nine yards. And so today we wanted to give you kind of the overview. So if you open a book and you see, OK, this is the index and this is what the book is going to be about by chapters. We're giving those chapters. Then we'll fill in the details at other times. And then you can go back and listen to some of our previous podcasts on Rush to Reason or Apple Podcasts.
SPEAKER 13 :
It's Rush to Reason. It's on Apple Podcasts for iPhone users. And for non-iPhone users, you can listen to it on iHeartRadio and KLZ 560 AM's website. In those two modalities, you'll have to listen to commercials where the Apple Podcast has a fast-forward function at 30 seconds at a time. So for you iPhone and Apple folks, it's a little bit easier.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah. And so starting off Hour 2, Jeremy wanted to give you guys an update. For those of you who have been following along, we really appreciate it. So Jeremy, what's your update?
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah. So first it's what you just spoke about. A lot of people, you know, they're getting these algorithms and their buddies are saying, Hey, are you taking this? And I'm taking that. Are you trying this? Are you trying that? And the first thing I say is no, no, no, no, no. Go back to phase one. Like we need to know what's going on on the inside and the outside. That's the biomarkers. That's the body composition. Then we can decide what is best for you. So stop spending the 30 bucks, you know, on the vitamin X, Y, Z, or the newest, coolest fad. So that's my advice, you know, to start saving some of those funds, put them into the labs with someone like Dr. Faulkner. Then we can really put a roadmap together of what your specific body needs because we're all different. So a little update on me. For those that have heard previously, you know, 10-year journey now, severe back pain, really, you know, broken femur, spine issues, blown discs, torn iliolumbar ligament. Bed ridden for about 10 years, working from a laptop and struggling to travel and couldn't play sports, couldn't play golf, couldn't ski. So I looked into this regenerative medicine space. And 10 years ago, I wasn't even really known to anybody. But I did find a good option in Vail, Colorado at the time. Did my research. Thought, okay, well, I'll try the stem cell thing. I'll pay out of pocket because I was desperate. I was willing. Yeah. To do anything other than get the fusion that the doctors wanted me to go through, two-level fusion, that would have cost an insurance company $300,000, and I'd be bolted up with basically my spine going up the chain, getting worse, no mobility. And most of these patients are still in pain after they get the fusion, which is unfortunate. So I took the dive, and I did find out that a year later I was feeling better, but more importantly, when I had re-imaged, the spine and the MRI, the disc height had grown, you know, like 60%, you know, something very, you know, considerable. And to the naked eye, it was like, oh, my goodness, like stem cells really can regrow tissue. Yes. And, you know, here we are 10 years later. And the newest update, and I think you were involved is in Florida, Governor DeSantis signed into law where now you can use stem cell therapy to off-label legally in the state of Florida, you know, for pretty much anything that your doctor says that will work for you.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, there's three indications. Yes, you are correct that I did. I went in front of the Florida legislature and testified to them, their House and their Senate. My friend Lisa, she's an nurse practitioner in Los Angeles. She's actually the one who created the language of the bill, and we set the bar so high that a lot of these fly-by-nights that say, oh, we can do stem cells, no, sorry, folks, you want to steer clear of that. And if you really, really want to know, call my office, the 303-663-6990, and we can have that conversation of what is a reputable company doing. and good stem cells because it's a process, and there is government oversight, but there's a lot of bad actors in the space.
SPEAKER 13 :
Just like we talked about with everything else popping up online. Everyone's like, oh, these things work. Well, let's come up with fake ones or ones that don't work as well or maybe dangerous ones. Right. So you've got to be very, very careful. So two and a half weeks ago, well, let me back up, about three months ago before one of these podcasts, And after Ron DeSantis signed the bill into law, which I've been focusing on and paying attention to, I went in and had, again, a harvest. And I had my stem cells from my adipose fat stem cells taken out. And sent to a company in Florida that cultured them up and I got 500 million cells and they're in vials that are under cryo freeze and I pay insurance to keep them under cryo freeze for my life. And I can use them periodically for different things that might pop up. So I went in three weeks ago and I had them injected into my L4, L5, my L5, S1, the facet joints, my iliolumbar ligament that was torn, my elbow that had tendinitis, my right shoulder that was healed partially from peptides for a slap tear. And then they put 20 million cells into my IV just to flood my body with them. And already I'm seeing incredible progress in the specific chronic pain areas, which are also coupled with everything I'm doing with your clinic. So I know we're kind of getting off track a little bit here, but it goes to the kind of the totality of these things layer on to each other. Correct. You have to kind of not just say this one thing is a magic bullet. It's doing all the things that we're talking about here and implementing the system. And I had it done by a good friend. I'm going to throw a plug out to him. Dr. Scott Brandt at ThriveMD. He's in Vail. He's in Denver. And they're kind of the specialists in this lower spine area. It's kind of their thing. But it's really changed my life. So thank you for letting me throw a plug out there. Sure. And at the same time, it sounds as if you are also going down that similar path so you can help people like me that have back pain.
SPEAKER 05 :
That's exactly right. So we are taking extra space there in Castle Rock, about a quarter mile from where I'm located now, which is next to Target. And because I see the need. Well, I was never trained to do spine. So I'm turning people four or five people a week with your story. Right. And I'm saying, well, go see my friend Lisa, who works with Dr. Laurier in Los Angeles. Well, 95 percent of the time, people like I don't want to go to L.A. to get my back fixed. Right. I'll go up to Vail or I'll go to one of the guys in Denver. And we know that adipose, now you had that before you met me. I have the papers to show you why that is. It's an inferior form of stem cells, but I'm happy that it worked for you. And at the time you needed, you were desperate. Well, now- There was no option. There was no option. That's right. So, but now- I took what I can get. We are creating that option. So as we take the new space, we're building it out and we should be open just after Christmas. And we are putting in that spine center where we can do that, but using the best of the best stem cells, which is the umbilical cord. Now, again, if you're from the FDA, this is an off-label use. The FDA has not approved these cells for use for regenerative medicine. I can But having said that, they are the best of the best, and I can prove that. In fact, I'll be talking in December at A4M conference in Las Vegas to 7,500 doctors and showing them exactly what we're talking about now. But right now, you guys are smarter than all those doctors. So they haven't been trained yet. But we are putting in that spine center, and we can do this under a local program. Right. So you don't have anesthesia. You're not knocked out. Very safe and effective. You get the kind of relief that you're talking about. And so Dr. Laurier is getting his Colorado license. He'll be coming out from Los Angeles. And then my good friend Wu Shicheng is talking about joining me as well. Wu Shicheng. is a world-class spine surgeon he was the number one recruit coming out of his class probably 15 years ago he worked with george fry next to swedish medical center because my sister used george fry for her lower back and then um i was sending a lot of patients to george i know we're getting off talk it but um Then George was so busy, they said, well, we have Wooshik Chung. Well, I didn't know that Wooshik was featured in People magazine. He won two gold medals for the United States in Taekwondo. The guy is absolutely gifted. That's incredible. And so he was working with Presbyterian St. Luke's. He just left them. He'll be down in the Greenwood Village, Castle Rock area, starting to see patients. So I have the best of the best.
SPEAKER 13 :
So they'll, like, do it under, like, x-ray guidance where they can see.
SPEAKER 05 :
Fluoroscopy a C-arm. That's exactly right. Gotcha. So we are creating that beautiful space for these guys so that we don't have to turn people away. They don't need to. Let's face it. If you want liposuction, what you had, where they separate the fat cells from the stem cells, then go get liposuction. But if you want stem cells, you don't have to undergo that painful procedure. Just get the stem cells from the umbilical cord.
SPEAKER 13 :
Right. In my case, too, I wanted to build up a lifetime supply because I didn't know where things were headed or going. And it's not something that I can apparently share with others. They're kind of for me.
SPEAKER 05 :
They're for you. That's correct.
SPEAKER 13 :
And again, I'm ahead of my skis as a layperson. But I'm thinking in the future, there might be a way to combine or use different ones for different things. Or who knows? But this space... is just getting started where I thought 10 years ago, it'd be covered by insurance now and everybody would be getting them, but we're learning so much.
SPEAKER 05 :
Insurance will never pay for this. They're happy, right? Let's learn. Let's figure this out. The insurance system is not designed to keep you healthy. They're there to maximize profits. That's right. Period. So if they can get you to pay out of your own pocket and they maximize profits, make their shareholders happy, then they'll do that all day, every day. And that's the way the corporations are set up. So if that CEO wants to be benevolent, that board of directors will remove that man in a heartbeat.
SPEAKER 13 :
Which is strange, too, because the insurance company would have paid the doctor $300,000 to bolt me up and give me a two-level fusion. Correct. And I paid, I think, $24,000 or $25,000 to fix it. And now I'm a different person. Yeah, without a fusion. Golfing and skiing with no fusion. I mean, he's my idol, always has been. But even Tiger Woods got fused at L5S1. Yeah. With all the money, the billions that he has, he had no idea. He had no idea. That's right. That, you know, he didn't need to lose the mobility and have it go up the chain now. And, of course, this is before the leg. So now, you know, hopefully he decides to use a card on the senior tour because that would be amazing to watch him compete. But, yeah, the low back, he didn't have to have that fusion. No, he didn't.
SPEAKER 05 :
So we've got to take a quick break. When we come back, we'll keep giving you more pieces of the puzzle. So Dr. Scott Faulkner and Jeremy filling in for John Rush, Health and Wellness Wednesdays.
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We'll be right back.
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TJ here with KLZ and Al Smith of Golden Eagle Financial. And Al, I have a question for you. I've been putting money away for a while in a savings account or maybe a couple of investment accounts. But what am I doing wrong and what can you do better than that?
SPEAKER 02 :
Well, I think a savings account is important because all the financial gurus, including myself, agree you should have three to six months savings that you have ready liquid access to. But retirement planning is a bit more long term and it's a bit more strategic. We want to take a look at the sum of money you'll need way into the future. And we want to look at how that money can last by providing you income for as long as you live.
SPEAKER 15 :
What kind of planning or strategy do you provide for folks with that that have a big savings but haven't made that next step?
SPEAKER 02 :
Well, that's a good question. If someone has a large amount in savings, one of the things I do is we have a conversation about their risk tolerance. Nobody's comfortable losing money, but having money in the market over a long period of time is a mechanism to accumulate wealth. And so we talk about the different levels of risk and the different products that are available. And we don't put everybody into one box, but I have an enormous assortment of financial products. And it's not that there's good ones or bad ones. It's there are some that are more appropriate for some people, but not for others.
SPEAKER 15 :
And that sounds excellent. How can folks get in touch with you for that meeting?
SPEAKER 02 :
You can reach me at 303-744-1128. And if I'm not there, it goes to voicemail, but I return my voicemails promptly. And we could have a conversation in the office. If you live a considerable distance away, we can have a long phone conversation or a Zoom call, whichever you would prefer.
SPEAKER 15 :
And as always, you can find him at klzradio.com slash money. Al, thanks so much for joining us today.
SPEAKER 02 :
Well, thank you, TJ. Thanks for the conversation.
SPEAKER 15 :
You bet.
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Putting reason into your afternoon drive, this is John Rush.
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Welcome back, listeners. Actually, it's Dr. Scott Faulkner and Jeremy filling in for John on this beautiful Wednesday. Hopefully, John, you and Tara are having a great time up in Fort Collins. Enjoy this day, my friend. So we're giving folks the blueprint or the overall roadmap of what it is that I do in the center. You've already lived it. You're experiencing it, which is great because, folks, we're just like you. I wasn't born with a silver spoon in my mouth. Neither was Jeremy. We both worked for a living. And so this is doable.
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And we wrecked our bodies in the process.
SPEAKER 05 :
I had a great time doing it. But now we're undoing a lot of the damage that was done, and you can do that too. So we're going to continue kind of with that roadmap. I want to talk about Oura Rings and continuous glucose monitors for a minute. So I know you like the Oura Ring. I love mine. I forgot mine because of you.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah. And I think it's called the whoop band. If you're younger and more fitness oriented, I think it works fine. But for people like we talked about over 35 or 40, you need to look at different things, right? Fitness is only one piece of the puzzle. And I think I've done my research. I think the aura ring is definitely, at least today, by far the best. They're giving them to our soldiers, right? So they got a huge contract with the Department of Defense, or I should say now it's the the department of war that's right yes go pete hegseth go pete hegseth so um it kind of goes back to the measurement right if you you talk about biomarkers if you don't measure it you can't manage it or optimize it well when you're every day you're on this journey and you're just getting started with your roadmap you're like all right well i got my dexa scan you know i'm starting to you know take some meds that you know doc gave me some peptides some supplements and I want to make sure I'm sleeping better and I'm exercising. I'm trying to kind of do operational things. Well, this Oura ring, it's very simple. Different sizes. You slide them on your finger. They give you a sizing kit. You get the size. You set it back. A couple days, it shows up at your house. I'm getting them for all my family members and children for Christmas.
SPEAKER 05 :
They sell them at Costco now. Oh, wow. They actually stock them. That's great.
SPEAKER 13 :
You don't have to order it. That's great. So it pretty much tracks a lot of data. It tracks your, they call it your readiness score, which is inclusive of a lot of different factors. It tracks your sleep. It tracks your heart. It tracks the stiffness of your arteries. It tracks your heart rate variability. And I've gotten to the point now where this thing is kind of, the accountability holder for myself because I, again, like anyone else, you know, I have good days. I have bad days. Maybe that one week I only went to the gym twice instead of four times for whatever reason. But the aura ring says, you know, Hey, you have an issue here. You're not sleeping well. Your sleep score for the last three days has been, you know, below 65 or it was at 85 or 90. Um, So it kind of gets you back on track, which we all need, right? Whether it's through scripture or through, you know, anything else in your life. But I found it to be very, very good in that regard. And then the Stello glucose monitor, they've paired up with Oura Ring so you can order them at the same time. And the Stello monitor is a continuous glucose monitor, a CGM monitor that tracks your blood glucose in real time. And at first, I'm like, oh, I'm going to try this thing for a week or two and see what's going on with my hemoglobin A1C and my insulin resistance. And now I've had it on, I think, for three months, and I have basically a cupboard full of them. And I just change them out every 10 to 14 days. And we'll talk later about exactly how I've been able to do it because it's not one thing, but it's two or three, I think. Yeah. I've been able to take myself from insulin-resistant, pre-diabetic, A1C of 6.1, to now I'm insulin-sensitive and my A1C is at 5, maybe under. We're going to find out next week. Somewhere between 4.9 and 5.1 based on the math that Dexcom, which is the company behind Stello that tracks all of your data, is showing me. Yep. So I never would have known how to biohack prediabetes without putting on this glucose monitor. Even my other two doctors, one said, well, yeah, we got you down to five, five. That's great. And they were happy with that, by the way. And they said, well, in our experience, yeah. you may never go off of that, and that's okay. You may never go back into prediabetes or diabetes. So I was satisfied at the time. But again, I've learned so much about this anti-aging space and biohacking that now I'm an expert, and I knocked it from 6-1 to 5, and I can basically eat whatever I want within reason. And as long as I do the right things, you know, I go to the gym after I eat the pizza or the ice cream or I walk the dog after I have the, you know, the high carb snack. And you can watch the graph and basically train your pancreas on exactly how much insulin to give or not give and get rid of insulin resistance. I'm convinced that we can cure type 2 diabetes. Yeah.
SPEAKER 05 :
And one of those biomarkers is an insulin level that your doctor will never check because your body inside, let's say you are insulin resistant because you don't feel it. So your pancreas is working overtime to pump out extra insulin to keep your sugar under control right now. But it will give up the ghost at some point in time.
SPEAKER 13 :
The body gets better until it doesn't. Until it doesn't. It heals itself very well until it gives up.
SPEAKER 05 :
And that's modern medicine, right? So we... We'll let you crash and burn. That was my life in the ICU. It's like, okay, now I have this body that's crashed. I've got to put together the pieces, but you'll never be Humpty Dumpty. I'll never put you back together the way you were. So that's when I finally had enough of that medical industrial complex and said, wait a second. I need to be the guy on the front side helping people stay healthy fixing insulin resistance and what is a4m or american academy anti-aging medicine what did we learn three months ago at the conference what is the ideal a1c under five that's exactly right and you're there based on the things that we're doing so it is possible mine is 4.9
SPEAKER 13 :
It's very possible. And I walk around and someone will see it if I have a short-sleeve shirt on. And if they know me, they'll be like, I had no idea that you were diabetic. And I'm like, oh, you think because I have this little thing on. And I'm like, how much time do you have?
SPEAKER 05 :
That's right.
SPEAKER 13 :
I think people are starting to see him at the gym more and more as well. So using the CGM monitor to help fix your metabolic system.
SPEAKER 05 :
is a huge step in the metabolic health sector yeah i can't believe i've gone from insulin resistant to insulin sensitive in like three months isn't that cool it's crazy um we were talking earlier today before i was doing show prep before we came to the studio and in the epic times There is an article, Insulin Resistance is Silent Driver of Pancreatic Cancer. So I printed it out. This is from today. And it says, I try not to read things on the air, but in this case, I think it's that important for you guys. Insulin resistance, the body's inability to regulate blood sugar levels properly may be a silent killer hunting the pancreas, inflaming and mutating its cells into a ticking time bomb. Research suggests a link between elevated insulin linked to poor diet, obesity, and the development of pancreatic cancer, which is the third leading cause of cancer deaths in the United States.
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And one of the hardest to solve for X. I know it's easier now than it used to be, an immediate death sentence like Patrick Swayze, but it's still one that you want to avoid at all costs.
SPEAKER 05 :
Oh, yeah, if you can. And so it goes on. You guys can go to the Epoch Times if you get it, and you can read about this article. But it's exactly what we're talking about, and this is why I'm so excited in this space doing what I do. And, oh, yeah, by the way – If you are that unfortunate person with cancer, I know I let the cat out of the bag about a month ago that we were working with the NK cells. We are gathering data. We have treated several patients now with esophageal cancer, prostate cancer. Ovarian cancer, and this is so exciting. There's a well-known researcher billionaire out of Southern California, Sun Xiong, S-C-H-I-O-N-G. He was on Tucker Carlson and Megyn Kelly, and he touted, we have the cure for cancer. Well, what I didn't realize is my friend, the researcher here in Southern California, and this guy, they were buddies at City of Hope working on the same stuff. Now, unfortunately, to get to that guy, you have to be on death's doorstep, whereas you don't for us. So if you have somebody who's unfortunate and you've tried the standard medical stuff and it's not looking good, you might want to reach out to us there at the office, 303-663-6990, and I can give you more information. Now, we are pleased to have Regina, nay Brit, join us. And you guys will remember Regina. She is our expert on everything female and mental health. And so we're going to take a break. And when we come back, I want to get Regina's take on basically this puzzle because we're a couple of guys talking. But I'd like to get that female perspective of is this possible? How can we do this? What does this mean for you ladies? So – We'll have Regina's take on that when we come back from the break. You're listening to Dr. Scott Faulkner, playing it for John Rush, 560 KLC.
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Welcome back, listeners. Dr. Scott Faulkner and friends filling in for John on this Health and Wellness Wednesday. So we've been giving you guys the pieces to the puzzle, painting with the broad strokes on kind of what I think when somebody comes into me so I don't overwhelm you with everything. And like I said, in more podcasts, in previous ones, you can hear us on Rush to Reason. Go back to the website. You can listen to those or Apple Podcasts or iHeartRadio. and get more deep information on VO2 max or rapamycin that we've talked about in the past. But right now, Regina, I want to get your take because you are, I guess for lack of a better word, a mental health expert. You are a girl.
SPEAKER 08 :
I am.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yes, you are. And so help the ladies who are driving home right now listening to this going, well, I didn't think this was for me. I didn't think it was possible because I just feel – Is it depression? Is it hormones? What is this? So give us your take.
SPEAKER 08 :
So we're discussing overall health, like just feeling a general state of I feel detached from myself. I feel not me or I feel like I want to be something else, but I can't. I don't have the energy.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right. What happened to that 20-year-old who was in college who had the tiger by the tail? The vitality. Thank you. That's a great word. Love that word.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yes. Yes. So I'm 46. And just in my journey for myself, along with clients, I've had many women and men come to me with a common interest in wanting to have more energy. And they're saying they're depressed or they're overanxious, turning into depression. And alongside with that, their health is also, I would say, They're not balanced. They don't look balanced. They're not sleeping balanced. They're not eating balanced. They're not moving balanced. And when I say that, your body needs to have homeostasis, which is balance. The ability to create an environment physically, mentally, and spiritually that you feel you're analyzing, taking in, and working in all these three areas. All the time, every day, even if it's five, ten minutes. And what I found as a therapist working with women is they go through these hormone changes right in their late 20s to beginning 30s, just silent. They're small little hormone changes that are happening. Late 20s, most women, I'm not going to say all, but you're going out a lot. You're drinking. You're doing lots of things that are causing inflammation. And inflammation is something that stacks. I'm going to use that word stack. It doesn't just, oh, I'm inflamed and it goes away tomorrow if I do my green juices and my detox. Or I'm not going to drink for two weeks. I'm going to have a month of sorority. Okay. Yeah, it's going to help. However... Years and years of yo-yoing, going back and forth, going back and forth. Then the women are hitting their 30s, introduction to 30s to mid-30s. Have a kid or two? Maybe. Again, that will increase more, I would call deprivation, meaning your body is now overworking to achieve homeostasis, that balance again. And over time, the body's not able to spring back like that because it has inflammation.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, we call it inflamaging.
SPEAKER 08 :
Inflamaging, exactly. So you're aging because of the inflammation, and it's happening daily, monthly, and you're just getting the feelings of it, the hair shedding. The circles under their eyes, the non-glowing skin, the loss of keratin in the hair, the nails not growing. I can't run like I used to. I can't dance like how I used to. My hips hurt. All these things start creeping up, and it starts in the 30s. And they're coming to me because, oh, my relationships are hurting. I don't have the energy to have conversations. I can't pay attention. I have adult ADHD. I have anxiety disorder. I can't sleep right. I need sleep meds. And I'm like... wow, this is interesting that all these common things are happening, yet the other common things that are happening is the lifestyle.
SPEAKER 13 :
It's all systemic.
SPEAKER 08 :
It's systemic, exactly. We are a system. It's actually built beautifully, perfect, our system. And we mess it up. We mess it up, and maybe it's not us messing up in the beginning, meaning... how our parents are feeding us, how our parents are teaching us how to unite the physical, mental, and spiritual health. And again, that's not to blame anybody. It's just what we know. We go by what we know. We don't want to blame.
SPEAKER 13 :
And the terrible food source that, you know, since our grandparents, you know, we didn't know until recently about ultra-processed foods and all this inflammation driving. Microplastics.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yes. And then you hear this common thread, which is, Oh, my grandmother had diabetes. So did my mom. So I'm going to probably have diabetes. I'm like, whoa. I go, but let's look at a pattern here other than genetics. Your grandmother ate this way and didn't move this way. Your mother also didn't move and ate this way. I go, could it be possible because of your behavior, you are introducing a disease?
SPEAKER 13 :
And on top of that, only 30%-ish is really truly genetic. The other 70% is epigenetics that we can use to change the gene expressions and make sure that you don't get what mom or dad had through lifestyle changes, like you're saying.
SPEAKER 08 :
That's right. And this is where I come in with people working in the mental health side. You need to train your brain, cognitive behavioral. You need to retrain your brain to think I have manageability over my health. I have control over my choices of what I put in my machine. I have choices how I move my machine. I have choices how I believe in my machine. And this is something to me is where the root needs to start. You need to retrain your brain. on saying, I can do this, I can do that. Not, oh, I can't. Oh, that doesn't. And again, these are people coming to me already feeling defeated. So working on them, having more inspiration, working on finding just the smallest avenue. And one of the things I work on telling my clients, forget the 10 minute, 15 minute exercise. I go, let's start small. I want you to get on the floor and I want you to just breathe. Notice where you're breathing. Notice how you're breathing. Let's start there. Fresh oxygen. Fresh oxygen, the way we breathe. We're not... I'm going to throw a number out there, but half of people out there are not breathing correctly. We're not exhaling properly. We're not inhaling properly. We start with the basics. And I'm like, that's called exercise. You're exercising your lungs.
SPEAKER 05 :
My sister taught me to take off my shoes and ground.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yes. So I walk on the grass. Every day I walk on the lawn and it feels so good. I just sit there. It is. And I get an energetic response.
SPEAKER 13 :
I sleep on grounding sheets every night.
SPEAKER 08 :
I love it. I bought my husband a grounding mat underneath his office because he's not as, I call it frou-frou as me. I'm like walking like a hippie on the grass. I'm like, oh, look at me with my dog and my cat get grounding. Let's everybody we're grounding. I get my son on the, get on your hands. Let's ground.
SPEAKER 13 :
But when there's a blizzard outside and two inches of ice on the driveway, that grounding mat in the office is going to come in really handy.
SPEAKER 08 :
And science, this is the beautiful part about living in today. We have the science. We have minds like ourselves and minds that have created these abilities to help us bring the inflammation down, to center ourselves. Research is more and more coming out how we do have control.
SPEAKER 13 :
That's right.
SPEAKER 08 :
We do. We do have control.
SPEAKER 13 :
You'll find that, like you said, once you get over the hump and you feel better, and some people it might take a couple of weeks, maybe a couple of months, but when they actually feel like, oh, my goodness, my anxiety is down or I feel more vibrant, then it'll start to build and build like a snowball rolling down a mountain. That's right. But you've got to give them that little shove so that they can understand that it's a lot easier than you think.
SPEAKER 08 :
It is. And a lot of times what I have to do with women on the women's side, I work with men and women equally. But speaking since Dr. Faulkner mentioned women, I teach them about compassion, compassion to themselves, compassion and the ability to be honest and raw with their compassion. Because it's not about, oh, I did this wrong. Oh, I'm not doing this right. Okay. We already know that. We don't need to. keep in that darkness we can show light now it's like okay let's become an educator let's become a seeker of information so i truly believe in psychoeducation is giving everyone the ability to have knowledge just like how we're talking it's out there and we live in a time that information is readily available
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, with AI now, you can pretty much ask it anything and get like 100 bullet points on exactly what's going on without all the, you know, I'll say the word fake news or the poor context. You know, the big pharma is trying to shove in your algo or the big medical guys are trying to. And then again, there'll be a few bullet points that says, well, you know, maybe it's not quite done with a clinical trial just yet, you know, in real fine print. But then you put it into play and you're like, I don't give up. you know what, what the FDA is 10 years away from still, I feel really good. And my biomarkers say that I'm a lot healthier. Yeah.
SPEAKER 05 :
So I've got a great story. So I have a young lady who came to me, she's in her late thirties. Um, and she was, you could see her countenance, right? As a doctor, you, you learned to get a quick glance at somebody and you know, um, that there's obviously something off. And she was kind of ash in color, a little heavy, but just no life in her body. And she was asking me, I know my hormones are off. Can you please help me? And I'm like, well, yeah, that's pretty much a piece of cake. But we need to get those biomarkers to find out where we're starting. And there was just something inside of me that I looked at her and I said, Do you have breast cancer or did you have cancer at one time? And she started crying. She says, I was not going to tell you because I'd been to so many doctors who refused to treat me. And when they gave me all the hormone blockers, this is several years ago. So she's been cancer free for many years now. She said, it has sucked the soul out of my body. My bones ache. I'm depressed. I no longer feel sexy. Everything is amiss.
SPEAKER 08 :
She feels disconnected.
SPEAKER 05 :
That's right. And I said, okay. She's like, I was afraid that you wouldn't give me hormones. I'm like, well, you see this waiver right here where you agree to hold me harmless if I give them to you? She's like, yeah. I said, will you sign this? She's like, absolutely. She grabbed it, took the pen. I said, then why wouldn't I help you? It's your choice, right, whether you want to do this or not. And, oh, by the way, you're still a female. You still have a chance of recurrence, but you're miserable. And I know what's going to happen to you when you leave here. If I turn you down, you're going to go bite the end of a gun. And she's like, how did you know? I just said, I feel it in my spirit that there's something off and you're desperate. You're asking me to help you. I'm listening to you. I hear what you're saying. Sign this waiver and here's your hormones. Because once we got our labs, I mean, there was nothing in her body. And within a week and a half, she came into my office, and she was bouncing. She was telling everybody, you have saved my life. I feel so good. The pain is gone. I thought it was going to take a long time.
SPEAKER 08 :
And when you say life, this is another thing. We're not here to exist.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah. We're here to live.
SPEAKER 08 :
Wall paint. We're not wall paint. We're not that statue.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, we're here to thrive and enjoy the experience.
SPEAKER 08 :
That's right.
SPEAKER 13 :
Because it's a very short experience.
SPEAKER 08 :
She wasn't living. She's existing.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right. And I took an oath to help people. That's right. Right? So I'm like, absolutely. So that's why I do what I do. And again, I've told the listeners this. If I don't have the expertise in somebody in an area, then I will refer you out. Like I don't do spine. So I have the Dr. Laurier's and the Woosuk Chung's in the world. I have you as a mental health coach, a guide. I have Sam Peterson with MindSpot Denver who does ketamine and things like that for people with TBIs and PTSD well. Because I can't do everything well, but I have friends who do it really well. So, hey, you need a team. Yes, you do.
SPEAKER 13 :
I mean, even back in the day, it's kind of like this medicine 2.0. You have your general practitioner.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right.
SPEAKER 13 :
And then they refer you through the insurance company to all these specialists. Well, it's the same concept, only instead of keeping you sick, you're using that roadmap to make people better.
SPEAKER 05 :
That's right. Yeah.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah. I love when I get a client and they're like on these antidepressants, anxiety, sleep meds. And I'm just like, did anyone check your vitamin D and B? And what about your testosterone? They're like, huh? I'm like, you've been on this for eight years and no one has checked if you have a deficit in your D. Yeah.
SPEAKER 05 :
So I've got an article here from the epic times. So we've got to take a break really fast. When we come back, Regina, take a deeper dive on that part of the puzzle. Okay. So Dr. Scott Faulkner with Regina and Jeremy, 560 KLZ, filling in for John Rush. We'll be right back.
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We inform you. Now, back to Rush to Reason.
SPEAKER 05 :
Welcome back, listeners. Dr. Scott Faulkner with Regina and Jeremy. We are talking about, believe it or not, vitamin D. Regina, you had a point you wanted to make, so have at it.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yes, so we were discussing how women, men and women, I've had both cases, but we'll concentrate on women, come to me. They're in a marriage, and they're not being sexual with their husbands. Husbands are complaining. They're not sleeping right. Their skin is not looking as glowy. They're trying all these products, all these things. They just don't feel themselves. They feel detached. And they're coming to me on SSRIs, antidepressants. or on anxiety medication, or sleep meds. Sleep meds with the anti-anxiety. I'm like, wow, you got a concussion. That's a lot of stuff you're on. Oh, yeah. And then they have this low energy. So what does low energy cause? Cravings. The easiest way for a body to convert energy, sleep, and carbohydrates, right?
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, binge.
SPEAKER 08 :
Binge, exactly. So I have an eating disorder now, and I'm like... I have adult ADHD. They're Googling their symptoms. So they got adult ADHD. Right. So I'm like, OK, I listen to them and I see the sadness, that detachment, just like you were discussing. You could see they're not there, but they're there. They're existing. They're not living. And I'm listening, letting them cry, letting them purge, purging so important. And I'm I'm wondering, where's your blood work?
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, your biomarkers.
SPEAKER 08 :
Your biomarkers. So I say, okay, when's the last time you did a blood work? A lot of them, it's about a year and a half to two years. That's about average.
SPEAKER 05 :
And it's basic stuff. Basic stuff.
SPEAKER 08 :
And I go, let me see your last blood work. However... I want you to get this done. And what I have them get done, your Ds, your Bs. I want to see your T3, T4, reverse, right, all of it. I want to see how your thyroid is working, not just the TSH, which is the normal stuff. And they're like, that's never, they've never, I look at their past blood work. Never has it been. And they're on these antidepressants. And I'm like, are they not also checking your cortisol levels? There's a cortisol level check. And I'm like, yeah, your doctor should be educating you on this. I'm like, it's your body. This is your body. So I send them a bunch of articles about all the things I'm discussing so they can psychoeducate themselves because they need to be informed because that creates passion. Passion to be like, oh, wait a minute. There's a window of opportunity for me to actually do something. I don't have to go and take a pill and wait. and be, oh, I feel good, but I kind of don't. Like, yes, that's right.
SPEAKER 13 :
You pull the blinders off.
SPEAKER 08 :
You pull the blinders off, exactly. And I would say, I'm going to say in the 70%, most of these cases have something wrong with one of those biomarkers or many.
SPEAKER 13 :
We talked about it earlier that you're going to be surprised at what you see, but don't worry, we can fix it.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yes. In most cases. So the D, I have one case, a woman, 34. on anti-anxiety medication, sleep meds. I have panic attacks. I have panic attacks. I'm like, all right. We did some things, taught her diaphragmatic breathing, taught her meditation cycles, yoga for breathing, all the stuff. I said, while we wait for your blood work, we're going to implement these things. However, I want you to realize you are a machine. You have parts to your machine. If your machine is not well-oiled, if your machine is not well- With certain nutrients. All the things we're doing are not truly going to work. You're not going to feel that grounding, that connection. So once we had the blood work in this one woman, her D, like we were discussing, was so low. Was so low. I was like, okay. Her B, very low. Her cortisol was through the roof. Mm-hmm. I was like, wow, and I got excited for her. I got so excited. She was in my office, and I'm like, this is wonderful. She's like, what do you mean it's bad? I'm like, no, no, no.
SPEAKER 13 :
Because you know how fast you can make her bounce back and feel better.
SPEAKER 08 :
I was like, this is exciting. I go, oh, my God. I go, give me four to six weeks. She's like, what? She's like, I've been on this stuff for eight years. I go, four to six weeks. I go, we're going to wean you off. We're going to read you off your meds. You're going to start on a D supplement. I want you to go. This is when I was living in St. Pete, Florida. I sent her to a doctor who I knew. I'm like, you're going to get D shots. You're going to get B supplements every week. And you're going to do stuff to help your cortisol levels come down. And she's like, really? I'm like, yeah. Worked with her. It was around the fifth week I saw her. She came in and she had lost like, I think it was like six pounds already.
SPEAKER 05 :
The cortisol.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right. She talked to her psychiatric doctor. I already said, already start a plan to start weaning off. She stopped her sleep meds after two months because that was a little process to get off of that. And I saw a different woman within three months, a different woman. She got a hairstyle change. She had a boyfriend. She wanted to have a boyfriend. She wanted to. Yes, she had the. Oh, she had. She. And that was one of the things she complained to me. She said, Regina, I don't even want to be in a relationship. And she was 34. And I'm like, what? No, that's not even close to normal.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, she was broken.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, and then she explained her mom had the same symptoms. And I was like, no, this is not hereditary. So she thinks it's normal, right? Yes.
SPEAKER 13 :
Like, oh, mom was depressed.
SPEAKER 08 :
And her mom was telling her, oh, honey, this is you just getting older. I'm like.
SPEAKER 05 :
That's right.
SPEAKER 08 :
This is what they're told.
SPEAKER 05 :
Natural aging.
SPEAKER 08 :
Natural aging. Oh, you're getting gray hair. Oh, you're doing. Oh, well, you know, this is what happens to women. And I'm like, no, no, no. Capital N. Oh, no. Yeah. We're going to go out a different out here.
SPEAKER 05 :
And so what do we know in Colorado? 80% of Coloradoans are deficient in vitamin D. And oh, yeah, by the way, the biomarkers, the labs that you get back, that scale is wrong. Because if you're 35 or 40, they're like, oh, great, you're normal. No, it has to be 65 to 100. Yes.
SPEAKER 13 :
Imagine places that don't have as much sunshine as here. I have friends in Michigan. And if you really want to go back and look at the literature, that first wave of COVID that really knocked out a lot of people with comorbidities, when they did the autopsies, every single one of them was deficient, severely deficient in vitamin D, as was I. Didn't know it. Just did my wife's biomarkers because she sees my progress. And she's 11 years younger than me. Same age you're talking about.
SPEAKER 01 :
She's 36.
SPEAKER 13 :
And she said, yeah, maybe I should, you know, maybe do this biomarker thing. And her vitamin D level was eight. And so we started the supplementation. And here we are. 10 weeks later, better mood, skin's glowing, sleeping better. It's incredible what that one vitamin can do.
SPEAKER 08 :
She's going to enter her 40s feeling vitality. She's not going to be depleted. It's amazing.
SPEAKER 1 :
100%.
SPEAKER 13 :
On top of everything else we're going to talk about, too.
SPEAKER 05 :
And here's another study from the Epoch Times, right? Printed off today, vitamin D deficiency linked to higher risk of early-onset dementia.
SPEAKER 13 :
And most docs are saying just take like 600 IUs a day. Look at your biomarkers and learn. I have to take 6,000 IUs a day to get over 50 and maintain 50 nanograms per deciliter.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yep. Well, there's the music, so that tells us that Hour 2 is in the can. Thank you for listening. We'll be back for Hour 3, and we've got some more great stuff, so don't go anywhere. Dr. Scott Faulkner filling in for John Rush, 560 KLC.
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I'm a rich guy

Tune in to this episode of Mobile Estate Planning with Michael Bailey as he delves into the nuances of timing in estate planning. Many individuals wish to create a solid estate plan once in their life, but unforeseen life events often necessitate updates. Michael shares stories of clients grappling with such challenges and offers solutions that balance rigidity and adaptability.
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Welcome to Mobile Estate Planning with your host, Michael Bailey. Over a decade ago, attorney Michael Bailey turned his attention to estate law after he recognized the unacceptable number of adults without proper end of life planning. Michael recognizes that many of his clients have difficulty finding the time for making a proper estate plan. That's why he became the Mobile Estate Planner. He will go to wherever you are to assist you with your estate planning, including writing wills, trusts, and giving you the information you need to avoid probate. Now, ATX, Ask the Experts, presents Mobile Estate Planning with your host, Michael Bailey.
SPEAKER 01 :
Good afternoon. Welcome to Mobile Estate Planning with Michael Bailey here on 560 KLZ AM. So we can do something besides just leave your family alone. You may also be listening on 100.7 FM or the KLZ 560 radio app. There's different options and I'm happy to have everybody there who happens to be there. So phone over to talk to me on the air, 303-477-5600. And again, that's 303-477-5600. And my direct line is 720-394-6887. Once again, 720-394-6887. So as we've, you know, just all sorts of different things happen and all sorts of different things work out and all sorts of different things go on in my practice. I had somebody who called me this morning and they let me know that they were in a significant amount of pain and they were going to go into the hospital later today and they didn't know how long they were going to be in the hospital they didn't know if they were going to come out and they wondered if i would be able to come and meet with them this morning to get a will done and i got that message after i had completed my nine o'clock appointment this morning so i was about 10 15 when i got the message And I was on my way driving from that appointment to another appointment that I had at 11.30. And then I had another one at 12.30 and then came down to do this. So I called the lady back and I said, I'm sorry, I'm booked out till January. She said, oh, that's a bummer. I said, yeah, it is. I'm sorry, I can't get there, but hopefully you can find somebody who can. She said, okay. And then we moved on. So it kind of got me thinking about the timing of estate plans and how do we deal with the timing of an estate plan? Because I have many people who I meet with who they will let me know that they just want to do estate planning once and they don't ever want to have to do it again. So they want to make sure that everything is done in such a way that it can be rigid and exactly what it needs to be. But also be flexible enough that they never have to work with an attorney again. Because, you know, we attorneys charge money. And so it's just a racket so that we can make money if things need to change. And I'm like, well, that might be a little bit of the... Anti-attorney and we don't like attorney is view of life. And I can understand that. I can understand why people want to do that. I just don't know that I'm the one who is trying to take people's money any more than I need to. You know, I like to get paid for my work, but I don't like to take money from people unnecessarily. I try to help people do things so that they're not just, you know, there's just no money involved. And, you know, as much as I'd like to be independently wealthy, I mean, I would like to be the world's first trillionaire. And then I could work for free and I could help everybody for free and be like, well, I have a trillion dollars. I can do pretty much whatever I want. So I'll help people for free. But I do not have a trillion dollars. One or two, that's more like the number that I have is one or two dollars, not a trillion dollars. And so I help people as quickly as I can, the best I can, but I'm not out to try to get rich off of people. And so, you know, if we do an estate plan and then something in your life changes and we need to change things around, if I charge for my time there, it's not because I'm trying to bleed someone dry. It's because I'm actually doing work and so work needs to be done. So sometimes I think there are people out there who they're waiting to do their estate plan because what they want to do is they want to do their estate plan and do it in such a way that it's so close to the end of life or so close to the end that nothing would ever have to change. So you're kind of playing the idea of. Well, you know, I think I'm going to live to be 83 years old. So when I am 82 years old and six months, 82 years and six months old, I can then start the process, put together an estate plan that I can sign when I am 82 years and nine months old. So then the estate plan will only be three months old when I die. I won't have to do anything different. I'll do everything right and I'll do everything once and we'll be good. And then we can move on. And yes, that'll be great. Well, that would work really, really well if we knew when our expiration date was and we knew when our time was up. If there was a time stamp on Luke's forehead that said, I will die on April 18th of 2073. You're like, cool, I know exactly when I'm going to expire. So, you know, you can plan everything out. You can do all the things that you need to, to get there. And then you can have the right time for when you're, you know, you're like, I'll do my estate plan right before my expiration date and I'll be good. Problem is that I'm looking at Luke's forehead right now and it has no expiration date on it. Or if it does, it's written in the same, you know, um, skin tone as his actual skin. So it's not readable. And so I don't know when Luke's expiration date is Luke. Do I have an expiration date on my forehead? No, none that I've ever noticed. Dang it. Oh, man. So I don't think I've never actually met somebody who had. I've met people who have dates on their foreheads for various reasons. And like, you know, you're at a conference and you write something on there and, you know, some sort of exercise in trust or team building or, you know, getting to know you or things like that. But I've never seen somebody who had and knew their expiration date. It just wasn't, it's not something that's there. So trying to figure out that timing, I think everybody knows they're going to die, but everybody's pretty sure it's not going to be anytime soon. And it's certainly not going to be in such a manner that they're not going to be able to plan for it. Well, I think we all know that that's not quite how it works. My daughter played a volleyball game last night, and one of her JV teammates apparently lost a grandmother and has a grandfather in critical condition because they were out driving. Well, I think somebody else was driving, if I remember the story correctly. And it ended up in a car crash. And, you know, grandma didn't make it. And grandpa is in critical condition and likely will not make it. So, you know, I drive quite a bit, visiting people. And I try to drive safely. But, you know, sometimes I imagine I'm not the absolute world's safest driver. But sometimes I'm not sure about the other people around me too. Sometimes, especially when I'm driving on I-25 or I-70 or I-76 or 270, you look around and you can see there's three people to my right and one to my left, and I can see all of them on their phones with their kind of up above the steering wheel so they can see their phone and the road. And I would like to think that they're talented enough they can see both their phone and the road all the time, but I don't think that's necessarily true. And so I'm like, well, that might not be the safest environment ever. And yes, we would all like to see everybody else get pulled over for driving with their phone. But if you have an important message that came in or an important text message or an important message, why... You're a good enough driver that you can just check that and it'll be okay, right? Everybody believes that they're the exception to the rule of not needing to do things. But because we don't know our expiration dates, we can't quite time it that way. I've actually had some clients who sign things and then die in the next day or two. They're usually my clients who are in their late 90s or early 100s. And I'm like, well... I'm glad that we got it done, but that's not quite the timing that I was hoping for. I was hoping that we could sign stuff and then you would not expire within a day or two. I kind of like my clients to stick around. It's how I am. So you are listening to Mobile Estate Planning with Michael Bailey here on 560 KLZ AM, also heard on 100.7 FM or the KLZ 560 radio app. Phone number to talk to me on the air is 303-477-5600. And again, that's 303-477-5600. And my direct line is 720-394-6887. Once again, 720-394-6887. So we've got people who are trying to do that, trying to plan, trying to get to the moment where they would never have to redo anything because they're not going to live long enough and everything in their life would be all perfectly laid out. And that's great. And people who can do that, people who have that happen, good for them. Fortunately, I have found in my practice that doing your estate plan does not necessarily lead to or cause your death. I have many people who I've done estate plans for, and they're still around 10, 15, 20 years later. Sometimes they redo the estate plan, sometimes they don't, all those type of things. And I don't know that it's necessarily going to be the type of thing where I'm not going to say, oh, well, if you've done your estate plan, then you can go ahead and die. I'm like, nah, we just know what's going to happen to your stuff when you die. But one doesn't cause the other. You don't be like, okay, well, now I've done my will, and I've done my estate plan, and now I'm going to die, and it's all there. I mean, I think back to some of the videos I've watched about the death penalty process in Japan. And in Japan, apparently there's not really a set time frame, and there's not like a, you know, in the U.S., you're like, hey, we have an execution date. Okay, well, you know, there's going to be, legal maneuverings, legal wranglings. And then, you know, there can even be kind of the last minute, the phone ring, and it's the governor or the president saying, no, call off the execution. You know, that's, you know, that's, I mean, that might be a little bit more Hollywood than realistic here in the U.S., but, you know, there's plenty of things that happen with that. But apparently in Japan, when they decide on your death warrant, you have like 24 or 48 hours or something like that to live. And so the process is they'll come in, they'll tell you the death order has been signed. They sit you down, they write your will, you know, you write your last will right there with them. And then they'll take you in and to the execution chamber and carry out the punishment. Well, you know, then that's another way that you would know when your death is. But I don't know that I would, I don't think I'd want to be an attorney who is like, oh, say, what do you do for a living? Well, you know, I work in the prison, and then when it's time for prisoners to die, I get to go and write their will and then send them out the door knowing they'll be executed in the next half an hour. That doesn't sound like the kind of law practice I would want to do. I like to, especially for my clients who have younger kids, so I have clients who have kids who they've just had their first kid, so they've got a six-month or a one-year-old, and they're like, oh, I want to set up my will. And I'm like, cool, let's do that. and what i really want to do is be able to have you come back and say oh well you know that child that was one year old well now they're 18 year old and going off to college and so we need you to write them a power of attorney that will allow us to make medical or financial decisions if they become incapacitated with their adults and my response is cool i've had you as a client for 18 years and you guys have been happy and healthy That's the kind of effort I'm looking for. That's what I want to see. I tell people, especially my younger clients, I'm like, yep, I would like nothing better than to write this for you and you not use it for the next 30, 40, 50, 60 years. If you're 25, you had your first kid, you're like, cool, hopefully I can write this and you won't use it until you're 75 or 80 or 85. That would be amazing. That would be awesome. then you just have it in place there just in case and i think there's lots of things that we have there just in case now you know estate planning just happens to deal with their own mortality so we're a little bit you know more unsure of it so things like i'm looking out the window here watching the cars drive by And I'm like, you know, you have auto insurance. Well, does your auto insurance pay for a, um, oil change? Is an auto insurance pay for new tires as an auto? And does auto insurance pay for, um, you know, your brakes to be checked? It doesn't, you know, health insurance would do that like as checkups and preventative stuff, but. Not necessarily on a car. But, you know, all these people driving around, they have auto insurance. And why do they have auto insurance? Because if there was a car accident, the auto insurance could pay to either fix the car or replace the car. If somebody was injured or killed, then it would pay for their car. you know, the medical expenses or for, you know, the burial costs and funeral expenses. And then if somebody's killed, likely there'll be a lawsuit of, you know, wrongful death. So to punish the driver who was doing the wrongdoing and, you know, if that resulted in death, then that would make sense. we have life insurance you know life insurance is you know i mean really i think al smith would agree with this life insurance really could be called death insurance at least from a a term life insurance thing because life insurance doesn't pay out unless somebody passes away so i mean you know my life is insured for something like two and a half million dollars so if i die then my Wife gets a payout of $2.5 million. Cool. The trade-off is she doesn't have me, and at least for right now, she likes me more than she would like the $2.5 million. So I'm not too worried about that. But if I pass away and there's $2.5 million that gets paid out, then my wife can do things like pay off the balance due on the house and pay off. We own our cars outright, but if we had a car loan, you've got enough life insurance that you can pay off the house, pay off the car, and then with $2.5 million, she wouldn't necessarily have to go right back to work and get going on things because she would have $2.5 million that she could either live off of or use to invest and live off the dividends and interest from the investment or start a business or do whatever she wants. But it's going to be enough money that she can be taken care of. Now, I purchased some of that life insurance when I was in my late 20s, probably like 28, 29. So if it's got a 30-year term on it, that means when I hit 58 or 59, that term insurance is going to say, hey, if you want to renew us, we're going to cost about 10 times as much. But hopefully you've lived your life and paid for things. And if I die at 58 or 59, I will be old enough that my kids will have been grown and they'll be off to and probably even through college and living their own lives. And so a lot of the things that would have been my responsibilities as a younger man and a younger father would have been already covered by me working and handling and taking care of things well you know life insurance is there to replace the potential lost income that i would have and you know it's they tell me that you're at least i don't know if this is still the rule of thumb but financial planners have told me that you should have 10 times your annual salary. Well, 2.5 million is more than 10 times my annual salary. It's higher than it probably needs to be. But I have the insurance policies I have. If they're now 10 or 15 years into a 30-year term policy, I'm not going to be like, oh, I should just cancel this. I'm like, nah, it's inexpensive enough. that because it was set up under the rates from when i was younger that if i were to die you know it doesn't have to be 10 times my salary i mean it's probably it's more than that i wouldn't i'd have to divide it out and do math and i don't really want to do math right now in my head on while i'm sitting trying to talk on the air you know that sounds like a Not fun exercise, but it's just enough that my wife and kids should be taken care of. But you hit your 60s, 70s retirement age, then the math there flips. So right now, when I got a 30-year term policy, when I was 29 years old, the insurance company was betting that I will live more than 30 years so they won't have to pay a single thing. They'll just collect the premiums from me And then after 30 years, the term will expire, and it'll be like, okay, we're done. We don't have to do this anymore. And that's the math that the insurance company has, thinking that they don't necessarily, for most people, they're not going to have to pay out. Now, for some, they do, and that's why you have a whole insurance company that It ensures lots and lots of people and kind of pools everything together and then does their investment side of things. But when you start to hit retirement age and get older, that flips. So you are listening to Mobile Estate Planning with Michael Bailey here on KLZ 560 AM, also heard on 100.7 FM or the KLZ 560 radio app. Phone number to talk to me on the air is 303-477-5600. And again, that's 303-477-5600. And my direct line is 720-394-6887. And once again, 720-394-6887. So when you're 60, 65, 70, and you say, oh, I want a 30-year term policy. Well, if you're 60 years old and a 30-year term policy, that puts you to age 90. Or if you're 70, 30-year term policy to age 100. Well, insurance companies, they're going to look at their actuarial tables, which are all the survivability tables and stuff, and say, well, we don't think that somebody who's age 60 or 70, we're... much less sure that they're going to make it to 90 or 100 than we were that the 29-year-old would make it to 59. So because of that, we think we're going to have to pay out on these. We're at a much more higher likelihood we're going to have to pay out. So they're going to make that cost a whole lot more. So, you know, whereas I pay... $29 a month for $1 million of life insurance, if I was 60 applying for life insurance, I'd be like, well, maybe that $29 a month should be $2,900 per month. So we're just going to charge you a whole lot more because we think that... You're much more likely to die, and since you're much more likely to die, we want to make our money and get a fair amount of that money in before you pass away so that we're still profitable. Like it or not, an insurance company is like every single other company in the world. They want to make profit. And if they don't make profit, then they're not going to stay in business. So insurance companies, especially those with term life insurance, are betting that you're either going to outlive the term of your insurance or they're going to price in enough money that they would still make money off you. Because if it was $2,900 per month, right? So that's going to be $34,000 per year. So on a 30-year term policy, over that time, you would pay $1,044,000 in premiums. And if you only get a million-dollar payout, if you get all the way through the 30 years, then, hey, you've paid more in premiums than you would get paid out. Now, clearly, they're not going to... Clearly, if they don't think they're going to get the full 30 years, if they think they're going to get half of it, then they'll just... They'll go ahead and they'll price all those things in so that they can make money. And so life insurance is great for the young man's game. It's not so great for the older person's game. That's just how things go. Now, I mean, I see the commercials for like burial insurance plans where they're like, oh, well, you can pay us $300 a month. And then when you die, we'll cover up to $15,000 or $20,000 for your burial expenses. Like, okay, cool. well if you have a full burial with a nice casket and everything you can exceed that number but also then let's say you you know you pay into that plan your 300 or your 150 a month for you know two years and so now you've paid a couple thousand dollars and then you pass away They're like, oh, well, you know, did mom and dad want to be buried or do they want to be cremated? And they're like, oh, which one's cheaper? Well, cremation is so much cheaper. Okay, we'll do that one. So now they're only paying out, you know, $3,000 or $4,000 for cremation. You know, they're going to make their money there. So whatever you do and, you know, trying to plan ahead, you know, whether it's life insurance, you know, I mean, estate planning is kind of what happens to your stuff insurance, right? I'm not going to try to price in premiums of how can I make money off of you for the rest of your life. I'm like, hey, I will charge you for the legal work that I do. And then if there's more legal work to be done down the road, we can handle that. I got a different call from a different client today where... They've moved and they want to update everything to have their current address on it. I'm like, well, so at the back of your trust, you can put your current house on there as being owned as real estate that you own. You can cross off the other one and write that it was sold on a certain date. But you don't need to update all of the documents just because you moved. They're like, oh, well, that's great. I thought we needed to do that. I'm like, it would be great for me if you did. It'd be great for me that if every time you moved, you had to update things and then I just charged you for it. That would be awesome. But that would also definitely push people to not plan ahead early and get more towards that. Hey, I'm going to guess when I'm going to die or, well, I've sold my house that I lived in. I moved in too. a one floor ranch. So now I can stay here until I do pass away. So now I can think about estate planning. But so, I mean, a lot of times when people will call me and say, oh, I need to update this. I'm like, okay, what do you need to update? Oh, just, you know, we've moved or this person's address changed or this person's phone number changed. I'm like, okay, you don't need to redo all the documents. You can put together, you can just put together a, hey, current contact information. And then you keep that with the document. It's not an official part of the document, but it gives somebody more information so that if somebody is trying to contact your agent because you become incapacitated. They can call it the current number, as opposed to an old number that isn't necessarily going to get them what they want. Um, you know, there are some, you know, when people are like, oh, I need to change who the personal representative is, or, you know, my son who I wasn't talking to, we've now reconciled. So we need to leave an equal amount to them. Like, yeah, those are things we ought to change. But estate planning being a one and done and everything, I've had people be like, oh, why can't you just put something in there where the assets go and then there's a spot where if we want to change our mind, we can just handwrite it in and fill it out. I'm like, if that were the rule and that were the law and that were allowed, I would totally do that for you. And in some cases, for like tangible personal property, it is. But other things like wholesale changing of, oh, we have three kids. We want to live it three ways. Oh, one's not talking to us. We want to leave it two ways. Now they're talking again. We don't leave it three ways. Those are things we need to change. Those are changes in life circumstances. So getting your estate plan done, you can get it done early. You don't necessarily need to get it done often. But the concept that you're going to get it done once and nothing will ever change isn't necessarily what we're doing. So thanks so much for listening to Mobile Estate Planning with Michael Bailey here on 560 KLZ AM. I'll be back next week. But for right now, stay tuned for John Rush and Rush to Reason. Thanks and have a great day. Bye-bye.
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Mobile estate planning with Michael Bailey will return to ATX next Wednesday at 2.30 here on KLZ 560, AM 560, FM 100.7, and online at klzradio.com.
