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With what is happening down at the Statehouse, I used to think that it was above my pay grade to read the legislation, and it's not.

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I see big danger in as much as we will be giving an unelected bureaucrat the power to make rules about what we inject into our bodies.

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Is it freedom or is it force? Let's have a conversation.

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Indeed. Let's have a conversation. And welcome to the Kim Monson Show. Thank you so much for joining us. You're each treasured. You're valued. You have purpose. Today, strive for excellence. Take care of your heart, your soul, your mind, and your body. My friends, we were made for this moment in history. Thank you to the team. That's Producer Joe, Luke, Rachel, Zach, Echo, Charlie, Mike, Teresa, and all the people here at Crawford Broadcasting. Happy Thursday, Producer Joe. Happy Thursday, Kim. And we've got another great show planned for you, so fasten your seatbelts. Check out our website. That is KimMonson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter that goes out on Sundays. You'll get first look at our upcoming guests as well as our most recent essays. You can email me at Kim at KimMonson.com. This text line is 720-605-0647. And thank you to all of you who support us. We greatly appreciate that. Crawford is an independent broadcasting company, and I'm an independent broadcaster. And what that means is I purchase my airtime, which means that we have full freedom on the selection of our guests as well as our subjects. And some of you are sending in some great subject selections. Thank you to Ginny. I do appreciate that, and I will get on that. The show does broadcast 6 to 8 a.m. Monday through Friday. on all KLZ 560 platforms, and the first hour rebroadcasts 1 to 2 in the afternoon, the second hour rebroadcasts 10 to 11 at night, and then the next day we should have our summary up on my website with the podcast, and those podcasts can be heard on Spotify, iTunes, and all of those different platforms. streaming services, but KLZ 560 platforms are KLZ 560 AM, KLZ 100.7 FM, the KLZ website and the KLZ app. You can listen anywhere in the world. And we look at these issues through this. We're looking for truth and clarity on these issues. And we look at them through this lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. Something's a good idea. You should not have to force people to do it. And, my friends, it's never compassionate to take other people's stuff, whether or not it's their rights, their property, freedom, livelihood, opportunities, or lives, via force. And force can be a weapon, but it can be policy, unpredictable, and excessive taxation, fear, coercion, government-induced inflation, the World Economic Forum agenda, the globalist elites agenda, the United Nations, the Colorado State Legislature, which is being controlled by radical activist extremists. as well as the Colorado governor's office. Same thing. Radical extremist policies. He's trying to paint himself as a libertarian. But all of the stuff that is happening in Colorado can be laid right at his feet. And so... We need to make sure we make that clarification. The World Health Organization, land use code, zoning regulations, forest fees, conservation easements, national monument designations, and the list goes on and on and on. If something's a good idea, you should not need to use force to implement it. Our word of the day, and your challenge is to use this in a sentence, is germane. And it is spelled G-E-R-M-A-N-E. And I'm listening when I'm talking with people. And Colonel Bill Rutledge had used this in a conversation when we were... thinking about different shows that we're going to be organizing for all of you. But it could be ideas or information that is germane to a particular subject or situation is connected or is important to it. And so germane is spelled G-E-R-M-A-N-E. And your challenge is to use that in a sentence today. And I'll be working on that as well. There's so many serious things out there. And I thought, let's try to get a little bit of humor in our quote of the day. And went to Bob Hope. And Bob Hope was born in 1903. He died in 2003. He was an English-born American comedian, actor, entertainer, and producer. His career spanned over 80 years. Started in vaudeville. And he appeared in more than 70 short and feature films. And he was, during the Vietnam War, he would take entertainers to the war zones. And I remember watching some of those. And it was really great that they would do that and bring some entertainment to those that were on the front line. And so his quote today by Bob Hope is no one party can fool all the people all the time. That's why we have two parties. And he was a great and could bring a lot of great humor to all of the parties. politics of the day, and it's really not that different, it seems like. I thought, let's get to this day in history. And I pull these things out so that we can realize that the climate has always been changing. There's always weather. that's why check out a climateconversation.com which is the documentary it's a project of walt johnson which i have the great honor to be the moderator on that but he just wanted to have a good socratic conversation about this narrative around climate so check out a climateconversation.com you can watch it for free And we've created and recorded some great podcasts to go with that from some very influential scientists and experts. And so do check that out at climateconversation.com. So I wanted to start with this. 1879, the January record of 13 inches of snow falls in New York City, and that was broken on January 7th in 1996. So here we go over a century, all this different weather. And it's important that we understand that. In 1883, the Pendleton Act creates the basis of the U.S. civil service system. And that goes into a headline that I'll talk about a little bit later. And that is from the New York Post. The Interior Department overpaid workers by up to four hundred thousand dollars in taxpayer funds after they wrongly claimed to be in D.C. And this is a watchdog tells Senator Ernst. And so this all started with the civil service system back in 1883. Another, and again, I'm going to connect the dot for you on temperature. 1889, 128 degrees Fahrenheit was recorded in Clonklery, Queensland in Australia. And I'm going to fast forward to another headline. And that was in 2019. The Australian Bureau of Meteorology tweets, last four days were the country's hottest on record. in Tarkula, South Australia, reaching 120 degrees Fahrenheit, and then in Port Augusta, 119 degrees Fahrenheit. But we have to go back, and here we are finding in 1889, there were these very hot temperatures. And, of course, they're ignoring that because that does not play into the narrative of man-made climate change because we didn't have all of our combustion engines in 1889, and we did not have as many people in 1889. And so it's important that we know our history. 1919, the 18th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution authorizing the prohibition of alcohol is ratified by a majority of the U.S. states. And I thought this was an important thing to realize. In 1941, U.S. Vice Admiral Bellinger warns of an assault on Pearl Harbor. So this is January of 1941. That attack occurred in December. And in a way, it seems like it's deja vu all over again. And I'm thinking about these Colorado or California fires. That there were many, I think, people that realized that California was getting itself into a very dangerous situation regarding their mismanagement or no management because of environmentalist hands off policies on climate. brush, cleaning up brush. And we need to, I think, listen, start to be a little bit smarter, be prepared. And so again, 1941, they were already realizing that we might have an attack. This is another weather event that I thought was interesting. 1943, negative 60 degrees Fahrenheit at the Island Park Dam in Idaho. That's a state record. And when temperatures are that cold, we would like a little bit of global warming. And then lastly, in 1973, this started to really change things. Scientists at Corning Glass granted a U.S. patent for optical fiber, which was invented in August of 1970, beginning a telecommunications revolution. And it certainly did. We have these conversations because of our sponsors. One of those is Hooters Restaurants. They have five locations, Loveland, Aurora, Lone Tree, Westminster, and Colorado Springs. and a great place to get together to watch games. It's going to be a big football weekend, as well as to get together with friends for lunch Monday through Friday. They have great specials or happy hour, and you can check all that out at my website, how I got to know them. Very important story about freedom and free markets and capitalism and pesky PBIs, politicians, bureaucrats, and interested parties that like to use their power To try to control our lives. So that's why it is a really important story about all of that. So I think I will mention, let's go ahead and take a look at this headline here from the New York Post. And we had talked a little bit about this and I was at a Christmas party. where I was sitting next to someone who was a former civil service employee, and he said that one of the reasons, and Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy have said that they are going to try to make government more efficient, And also I'd like to see government much smaller. I'd like to see government back in the proper role that it is supposed to be playing in our lives. But one of the things they're saying is that they want to have employees go back to the office. And so this is super interesting. And what he said is that many of the government employees don't want to go back to the office. And the reason is because they don't live in the city where they were working. And many of these cities, these employees get a pay bump because they're living in more expensive areas. And so some of these people have moved to less expensive areas, but yet are getting that pay bump. And this is going to shed light on this. So it goes on to say here, the Interior Department overpaid dozens of employees to the tune of up to $400,000 of taxpayer money after the Fed workers improperly claimed to be based in the D.C. area, but were actually scattered all over the U.S. At least 48 government employees were found to have been inappropriately working in outside the capital region despite benefiting from these higher pay rates, which is meant for employees based in and around Washington, which I'm not sure I think that's a great idea. And so moving these bureaucracies, either getting rid of them or moving them out of Washington, D.C., would save us money right there. But this was according to a report from the department's Office of Inspector General in response to a review request by Senator Joni Ernst, a Republican of Iowa. says that 40 employees assigned to interior headquarters didn't report at least twice per pay period in fiscal year 2023 the bare minimum needed to get locality pay according to the watchdog report as a result the oig report reads we estimate doi paid as much as 401 000 in annualized locality payments that may not have been allowable In 2023, employees based in D.C. and surrounding areas received a 33.94% bump from their base pay due to the cost of living in the capital region. Only those located in and around Houston, 35%, Los Angeles, 36.47%, New York City, 37.95%, and San Francisco, 46.34%, got more generous increases. And so it's going to be important to shed light on this because this is basically, I would say, defrauding the taxpayer. And let's see. And another zip code, it looks like in the Denver area that there are those in Denver that receive locality pay as well. So I think this is going to be really interesting to watch this story. And again, that I think that is one of the reasons why there may be some of those employees, government employees that don't want to go back to the office. And so next thing I know with these fires, we are going to have a conversation with Roger Mangan regarding insurance coverage. We've talked a lot about this regarding insurance coverage in these states. Areas where there's great fire risk and and apparently some of these major insurance companies had canceled some of these policies in California within within the last year. And this is also putting insurance companies, though, in a really difficult position because PBIs, politicians, bureaucrats and interested parties, and many of those interested parties might be these radical environmentalist activist groups. have really set hands off on managing our forests and our grasslands. And when that happens, then these fires become more intense and more devastating. And so a lot of this goes back to making sure that we're being good stewards of our earth. But Roger Mangan has been taking care of his clients for 48 years. And he and his team realize that there may be ways that you might be able to save money on your insurance coverage. The only way you'll find out is to give them a call at 303-795-8855. And a couple of things on that. You might be able to bundle your insurance together. And also, the longer that you're with them, many times you'll get discounts as well. So give them a call at 303-795-8855. Like a good neighbor. The Roger Mangan team is there.

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And welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is KimMonson.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMonson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice. We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And big news yesterday, I saw this come across the wire, and that is that Israel and Hamas, this is from CNN World, Israel and Hamas have agreed to a deal that will pause the war in Gaza and see the release of Israeli hostages held in the enclave and Palestinians held in Israeli custody. Of course, I guess it's a three-phase deal. It's set to begin Sunday, but many of its details and the timeline remain unclear. It is yet to be approved by the Israeli cabinet and Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, and he said he won't officially comment until all the details are finalized. And the CNN report goes on to say the agreement was brokered with an almost unprecedented level of cooperation between the Biden and Trump camps, a senior U.S. official said. U.S. President Joe Biden said talks will go beyond the temporary ceasefire to a phase two that could include a permanent end of the war. Now, I saw some of our headlines where the Biden administration is wanting to take credit for this and say, I guess, first of all, we should just be grateful that this is happening. And I think the Biden administration has had a whole lot of time to broker this deal. I've got to think the fact that Donald Trump is going to be inaugurated on Monday may have a lot to do with this. But this indeed is great news. And and we pray for it. We pray for peace. And when Donald Trump was president, we did not have all of the bad guys rattling their sabers all over the world. And so hopefully we are going to have a much better. safer, more peaceful world here as we look into 2025. I know so many of us are so hopeful about what 2025 will bring opportunity. We've got a lot of work to do, though, because as we have seen and as the Biden administration is out the door, they are really putting in place so many different things that will make it difficult and more time consuming to unwind them. as Trump and his team takes over, is inaugurated as president. Next thing that, and I was at an event last night and ended up talking with a Denver police officer, and we both were aghast regarding these slashings that happened in downtown Denver during the weekend. And there were four people that were attacked with someone with a knife, and two of them died. And in the initial reports that I had, I find it so interesting that they left out kind of a key thing, and that is that they referred in the initial piece that I reported on that it was a Hispanic woman that had been stabbed and she eventually died. which I'm sure that's true. She was of Hispanic heritage. But I think what's really important to realize, and we talked a little bit about it yesterday, was that she was an American Airlines flight attendant. And how... tragic that you are on a layover. You decide to go down to the 16th Street Mall, which used to be a lot of fun. And she is attacked and dies from those wounds. And Denver is no longer safe. Apparently, Denver Mayor Mike Johnston did a press conference down on the 16th Street Mall. and that guy's really out of touch he doesn't really understand what i don't think what's going on because i i think he's one of those young guys that has was really indoctrinated uh through our education system through the political system and he doesn't understand the proper role of government one of the first things that is is that we have safe communities And he continues to do things that make our communities less safe. So this particular article, this is from CBS Colorado. It says that people who work in downtown Denver say they don't feel safe despite the crime drop. and what we are learning is well i'm getting we're getting to the point where we don't under that we don't really believe any of the statistics they're coming from government agencies because uh they say that crime is down but what's happening is a lot of crime is not even being reported so if the crime is not reported then crime will be down because it's not being reported And people, when you see headlines like this, four people, this was late afternoon, early evening, 16th Street Mall, on the weekend. This beautiful city that I loved has become dirty and dangerous, and it's because of radical activist extremist policies that are being pushed forward by the Democrats that have taken over the Democrat Party. This Democrat Party is not the party that of JFK nor your grandfather and your grandmother. So when people just blindly vote for Democrats, this is what we get. And so this CBS article says, in downtown Denver, crime rates may be down, but for those who work and live in the area, the reality on the streets often feels different. Recent statistics show a significant reduction in violent incidents, including shootings and homicides in Denver. However, as locals share their stories, it's clear that safety is still a growing concern for many who call downtown Denver home. Many longtime employees say the nature of crime has shifted in more concerning ways. It says recent data shows a 23% reduction in shootings, a decline in homicides, and a 55% decrease in drug-related offenses. However, following a stabbing over the weekend that killed two people and injured two others, City officials are stepping up security along areas like the 16th Street Mall, the incident which officials have called a random act of violence, which has sparked increased patrols in the weeks and months ahead. And while I think that's a good idea, that's just putting a Band-Aid on what the real problems are here in Denver, and that is terrible public policy. And that can take us right to this next article regarding drugs in our society, in our community. But Mayor Mike Johnston, this is from the Diverite, he vetoes a bill to make – A needle exchange. Hold on here. You know what? I think I got this. I might have gotten this wrong here. It says, OK, I'll read this. The mayor said the ordinance was the wrong solution at the wrong time. Just a day after Denver City Council voted to have more needle exchange sites throughout the city. But it seems like the other thing. It says the changes proposed by Bill 24 1791 were simple. Remove the limit to how many needle exchange programs could operate and allow the sites to open within 1000 feet of schools and daycare without exempt without the need for exemptions. I apologize, my friends. I got that turned around. I thought that the city council had passed a ordinance to. uh to prevent these uh needle exchange sites from being in by school so i guess i should i need to say congratulations to uh mike johnston for vetoing that because i think that's really important uh our kids our kids are so under attack in so many different ways and um Regarding Denver and crime and homelessness, one of the major problems is addiction and, of course, making it easier for people to continue with their addictions and not help them to really get that turned around is one of the reasons. Again, it's a radical activist extremist policy. And one other thing, I was talking with a friend of mine that lives in Denver And this was a headline that I had not gotten to you guys yet, and that is that in Denver there's now going to be a sidewalk tax. And, of course, if you live on a corner, you're going to pay a lot more in tax. And that seems to me like another assault upon property rights. Not only had Denver gotten a big bump in property taxes with this – increase of assessed valuation. But now another ding for people that own their homes in Colorado or in Denver is that they're going to have to be paying a sidewalk tax. It seems like they're coming at private property owners every which way. And the real assault is to try to get rid of people being able to own their own property. And property rights are inherent within the American idea. So it's really important. And I really do think that we are at the tip of the spear on all of the things that are occurring here. And so it's important to have these discussions. We have them because of our sponsors for everything residential real estate. And she is working diligently to protect private property rights is Karen Levine with REMAX Alliance.

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Welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is KimMonson.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMonson.com as well. And do check out the USMC Memorial Foundation's website. That is USMCMemorialFoundation.org. And make sure that you add into your giving this year a contribution to the USMC Memorial Foundation as they are raising the money for the Marine Memorial, which is located here in Colorado. It is the official Marine Memorial. It was dedicated in 1977. It's time for a facelift. And you can help them do that by contributing at usmcmemorialfoundation.org. Please have on the line with me a great sponsor of the show, and that is Bob Boswell with Laramie Energy. And my friends, it is reliable, efficient, affordable and abundant energy that powers our lives, fuels our hopes and dreams and helps us control our own personal climates. And that comes from one of the main sources is natural gas. We've got a lot of natural gas here in Colorado. But we've seen it under a legislative and regulatory attack. And, of course, with Donald Trump being inaugurated on Monday and Chris Wright has been tapped as his energy secretary, we've got a lot going on. So I thought, let's talk to Bob Boswell. Bob, welcome to the show.

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Good morning, Kim. Thank you.

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Well, there is a lot going on. And Colorado, though, I think with the legislature in session, I'm very concerned about what they're going to try to do regarding our energy sector. And what I've realized is that because of reliable, efficient, affordable and abundant energy, that we can control our own personal climate to be warm when it's cold outside, to be cool when it's hot outside. And that is really under attack, our energy sources such as natural gas, which we have in abundance in Colorado, Bob Boswell.

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Yes, we do. And it's unfortunate that we're being inhibited from developing at a rate that it should be developed. We often refer to it death by a thousand cuts. And you earlier were talking about taxes. Well, the governor is going around the Tabor Act, which requires a vote to increase taxes by putting fees in. And they've done, at last count I saw, was 23 fees. The latest one was affecting oil and gas production, where the fee on every unit of production that takes several hundreds of millions of dollars out of the ability to develop hurts the economics and further subverts monies that could be going to the counties where the state's coming ahead of it by putting these fees in. The money that can go to the counties.

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Well, and then there's also fees that I just don't think that we should have because what it's doing is making it more expensive for exploration and development. And then that just plays out as we are trying to live our lives and create our businesses, make our businesses work. If you're taking money out of our pockets because of higher energy costs and then that makes it more difficult for people and entrepreneurs. And so it's just a big circle, Bob Boswell.

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Well, they're taking money away from the people. That's taking freedoms away from the people. It's centralized government. It's more socialetic than it is democratic, and that's what we have in the state of Colorado. Unfortunately, we're following the path of California, and we're seeing what's happened in California by their abuse and misdirection of their energy policies. Part of the fires have been caused because of the lines, the utilities have been constrained capitalized on improving some of their facilities and the power lines. So, you know, it just builds on itself. And unfortunately, we're seeing that in Colorado. We're seeing it in Denver. You know, with us being a sanctuary city, people just have to open their eyes. They can see what we have a lot of immigrants now at stoplights. wanting to be paid to wash your car windows. We see fentanyl. We see drug abuse. We see downtown greatly evacuated with people going out the suburbs just simply because of these misguided policies.

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Well, and I used to love to go downtown, Bob Boswell, and I avoided it as much as possible because the city that I loved has become dangerous and dirty, and it's because of public policy. It's important that people connect those dots. It's because of bad public policy by radical activists. It's not just only in the energy sector, but that's what we want to talk about, but it's across the board. And so we will be watching what is happening and informing people with the Colorado Union of Taxpayers, which is a non-volunteer organization that I'm the president. I'm serving as the president at this time. We're going to have an event on January 23rd at CATA, which is close in parking. It's safe. We're at 290 East Spear, and CADA is the Colorado Automobile Dealers Association. But we're going to be watching things and informing people, Bob, on different pieces of legislation that affect us from taxes and fees and TABOR and property rights and school choice, all those things. And so I'll just make our quick plug to check out the website. That's coloradotaxpayer.org. Join us. It's only $25. And you're going to receive hours and hours and hours of volunteer analysis of what's happening down at the statehouse. But there's a lot of hope on the national level with Donald Trump and his inauguration on Monday and Chris Wright as his energy secretary. So what are you hearing in the industry on that? Whoops. I'm wondering if Bob muted his phone or did we lose him, Joe? I'm not sure there. You know what? Let's do let's go to break. And when we come back, we'll make sure that we have Bob Boswell on the line. And this show comes to you because of our sponsors. One of those is Lorne Levy for Everything Mortgages.

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welcome back to the kim Monson show be sure and check out our website that is kim Monson mon son.com sign up for our weekly email newsletter you can email me at kim kimmonson.com as well thank you to all of you who support us we're an independent voice we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force force versus freedom if something's a good idea you should not have to force people to do it pleased to have on the line with me ceo of laramie energy And apparently we're doing some new technology things here at the station, and so we've had some technical difficulties, so I apologize. Bob, I had set this up regarding Trump's inauguration. Chris Wright, who is the head of Liberty Energy, is now going to be the head of the Department of Energy. So on a federal level, there's some really good things going on. What are you hearing, Bob Boswell?

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Well, I think the Trump administration coming in, along with Chris Wright, who is probably one of the smartest individuals I've been around in terms of his knowledge from an engineering, financial, policy standpoint. I don't know if you're aware Chris has written a small book called Bettering Human Lives, where he goes into many of the factual elements of energy, the production of it, where it is in the world, the number of people that can be positively impacted by a consistent, coherent policy that includes not only fossil fuels but also nuclear. So I see a dawning of a new era. I think it's going to be exceptionally good for the country. I hope it will be positive for Colorado that there is not the continued resistance and over-regulation implementation of excessive testing. on the oil and gas industry. So I'm very positive about Chris's appointment and with the new administration coming in.

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Bob, what about and I've said it's basically it seems like a lot of marbles that the Biden administration is trying to put in front of the Trump administration as they're on their way out the door. They've said that there will be a smooth transition. But I continue to see headlines about could be monument designations going. conservation areas that ultimately i think would put some of this federal land off limits for oil and gas uh exploration and development grazing all kinds of things and uh it seems like that that i continue to see headlines like that what what's your thoughts on that bob boswell

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Well, that has been happening under Biden and Polis both. I mean, it's not only the federal government, but it's also the state government that's been doing the same thing, trying to take lands away from development, from agricultural to energy. So it's been a theme for the past several years, and it's work against the state. It's work against our communities. They are trying to implement a disproportionately impacted communities in the state of Colorado, which would prohibit development in certain areas that they believe the counties are impoverished or below the poverty level, and they talk about the effects of on the environment without taking into consideration the negative effects on the economy. So it's a totally backwards policy. It's in the process of being implemented. Unfortunately, you know, it's the front range with their idealistic misunderstanding. of energy and economics that are driving these absurd numbers of new policies being implemented to try and regulate the economic development of the state, not only in energy but health care. I mean, it's almost every industry that's being affected. It's simply wrong. You know, one of the things, Kim, is on the western slope, over 70 percent of that land is federal. And the federal government has always looked at states' rights and let states dictate certain elements of development. But they've completely overstepped that. On federal lands, I think with this new administration, the federal government will more strongly assert its ownership, the public's ownership of these federal lands and try to work with, I think, more assuredness on allowing these lands to be developed for the benefit of the overall public.

SPEAKER 12 : 45:11

Okay, so that's going to be interesting, Bob, as you're mentioning that. So federal lands in Colorado, does Colorado laws, do they have jurisdiction over those federal lands regarding oil and gas development, or how does that work?

SPEAKER 15 : 45:29

Yes, they do. They have jurisdiction over its federal lands. And what they've tried to do... is to work with the state governments on good policies on the use and development of these lands. But what we've seen is that the state government's putting regulations on federal lands that work against the development of the minerals and assets on federal lands. And so there needs to be more of a balance, and our federal lands ought to have federal policies in terms of development and use of that property as opposed to being overridden by state policies that work against the development of these federal lands.

SPEAKER 12 : 46:13

Okay. And then I wanted to go back to what you just talked about, these impoverished or poor areas that this legislation was passed regarding that they might be disproportionately affected by, I guess, air quality, by environmental things. And so they're making it more difficult for oil and gas development in those areas. But oil and gas jobs are good-paying jobs. So it looks to me like they're limiting the opportunity for good-paying jobs in areas where they say that people don't have as much economic opportunity. Am I hearing you that correctly?

SPEAKER 15 : 46:59

Yes, they are absolutely limiting it. And what they don't realize is that all areas, people come from those areas to work in the oil and gas industry. I mean, we have people that commute 50 miles a day to come to their oil and gas jobs, and they may be in a community that is under the definition of the state, disproportionately impacted, and they are affected. limiting development in those areas, and they're going to limit development in the state, which will further hurt the economy and employment numbers. You know, we've seen this latest tax, this latest fee, they call it a fee, it's a tax, taking money away from development of oil and gas, and the money's going into creating a transit system, a train system for the front range. So in the western slope, which is predominantly natural gas production, we're paying money for the development of a train for the front range. And if it were, you know, if this were described as a tax and the people voted on it and it was approved, that's one thing. Unilaterally, you call it a fee just to centralize and get more power to the state government taking away freedoms from people. You know, we would not have a problem.

SPEAKER 12 : 48:29

Well, and the trains, we talked about Denver, but people are not riding the trains because they're dirty and dangerous as well. And people really like the safety of their personal vehicles. They like the freedom to go where they want to, when they want to. Now, traffic certainly is an issue, and I get that, but that's because people... They are voting with their own personal vehicles. We sit in traffic. I went up to the National Western last night, and it took a while to get there because of traffic. But I don't begrudge traffic because I love the freedom of mobility. Now, granted, it might take longer to get from point A to point B, but this idea, if I would have tried to get to the National Western by going by train and bus, It would have taken hours and hours more, Bob Boswell. And so these, I call them PBIs, politicians, bureaucrats, and interested parties, they have this dream of everybody but them riding around on trains and buses and bicycles and walking. um and taking money to push that that agenda where people are saying no i really i appreciate my own personal vehicle and i feel safe and i would like to keep that and not be forced to ride around on these trains but they can they're continuing to double down on this whole idea well i mean it's a another example of ignorance i mean what you know they've

SPEAKER 15 : 50:00

want to defund the police, and those police are what can provide security on the trains, on the mass transit, and those sorts of things. So it's just backwards. It's totally backwards, and people need to have the freedom of choice. If they'd rather go in their own vehicle as opposed to try to navigate a public transit system, that's their right. But we're being, you know, trying to legislate and invest and put money into projects that won't have an economic realization and are not going to be utilized at the level it would be if they had sufficient security. And if they hadn't let in so many illegal immigrants and which has brought with them some of the drug and crime problems.

SPEAKER 12 : 50:48

Well, I was also thinking about illegal immigrants, and as we're driving up and down, as I drive up and down the I-25 corridor, I see all of these four- and five-story apartment buildings, which I hadn't realized it, but this, again, is another public policy effect. When talking with Lauren Levy with mortgages and Karen Levine, is that the federal government had been making it more favorable for developers to build these rental units from a financing standpoint. And then we also saw grants, government grants that might go into some of these projects. And then on the local and county level, there might be streamlining of projects. of regulations. And that's not a real free market. And it just seems that we have this public policy that's trying to take away our freedom of choice on where we live, what we drive, all those kinds of things. And a lot of it then goes back to what you and I talk about regarding Natural gas here in Colorado, natural gas development, natural gas is clean, it's affordable, and the attack upon that is actually an attack upon everyday people as they are trying to live their lives, heat their homes, keep their homes cool in the summer. All of that is under attack because they're making it more and more expensive through all this public policy, fees, regulations, all of that about Boswell.

SPEAKER 15 : 52:28

Well, they're taking money from taxpayers to subsidize a problem they created, which is the mass immigration that's occurred over the last four years to provide housing for these people who have come in illegally. So, you know, again, it's taking money. Money from the people who are working, paying taxes and subverting it into and underwriting their misgotten policies. And through this, provide housing, cell phones, a monthly stipend to people who have come here illegally. And that's that's just wrong. But why do we have a border if they're just going to allow people to come in, many of which are associated or a portion of which are associated with cartels, and they're bringing in more fentanyl, adding to the drug problem we already have and some of the crime that's empowered by virtue of these people coming in and not having employment and looking at different ways to work. Gain money and access through, you know, robberies, stealing things, trying to remarket and things of that nature.

SPEAKER 12 : 53:48

And as you mentioned that, over the holidays, I was at one of the grocery stores and I was at Whole Foods. And right on the corner, there was a... a family there was a father who looked like he was very capable of working and holding a job and then sitting in three lawn chairs there was uh his his wife i assume with a baby and two teenage girls and he had a sign asking for money and the two teenage girls were on cell phones and i thought what is wrong with this picture here's a um able working able-bodied man that could be working, begging, but yet how is it that the teenage girls have cell phones? And then everyday people, young people here are working hard just to try to keep it together who grew up in America. So there's a lot of challenges that we have. Bob, I appreciate what the energy sector does for Colorado, and that's why I'm really pleased to have you as a sponsor as well so we can shed light on this. But I do see some great hope with the inauguration of Donald Trump, and we're going to continue to work on Colorado here to reclaim this beautiful state because I think people are waking up to this bad public policy, and we're going to work to reclaim this state that we all love.

SPEAKER 15 : 55:10

I hope so, and I believe that's what will occur.

SPEAKER 12 : 55:14

I do as well. And so, Bob, I really do appreciate you shedding light on all this, and we'll talk again next month after the inauguration of Donald Trump, and we'll know a little bit more about what's happening at this Colorado State Legislature as well. But again, Bob Boswell, CEO of Laramie Energy, thank you for reliable, efficient, affordable, and abundant energy. Greatly appreciate that. And our quote for the end of the show, it's a little long. And as I mentioned, I was looking for things, quotes regarding some humor. And Bob Hope is an entertainer, comedian. But I had mentioned that he would go and entertain the troops. And as you all know, I have such a deep appreciation for our troops. And that's, again, while I do want to mention the Center for American Values, they've got an important event on January 23rd. And it's regarding the USS Pueblo that was taken captive by the North Koreans. And Bob Chica, who was one of those prisoners, will be speaking. But this is what and that website is AmericanValueCenter.org. Bob Hope said this regarding going into the war zones. He said, I was there. I saw your sons and your husbands, your brothers and your sweethearts. I saw how they worked, played, fought and lived. I saw some of them die. I saw more courage, more good humor in the face of discomfort, more love in an era of hate, and more devotion to duty than could ever exist under tyranny. So my friends today, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals, and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you, and God bless America.

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SPEAKER 12 : 57:50

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SPEAKER 08 : 58:22

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SPEAKER 12 : 58:28

Indeed. Let's have a conversation. And welcome to our number two of the Kim Monson Show. Thank you so much for joining us. You're each treasured, you're valued, you have purpose today. Strive for excellence. Take care of your heart, your soul, your mind, and your body. My friends, we were made for this moment in history. And thank you to the team that I get to work with. That's Producer Joe, Luke, Rachel, Zach, Echo, Charlie, Mike, Teresa, all the people here at Crawford Broadcasting. It is Thursday, Producer Joe. Happy Thursday, Kim. and really informative happy thursday to you too joe really informative first hour with bob boswell who is the ceo of laramie energy and just regarding public policy here in colorado and also how this is going to bump up these terrible rules and regulations regarding oil and gas development it's across the board here in colorado And how that's going to rub against the Trump administration. It's going to be super interesting to watch. So I do thank Laramie Energy for their goal sponsorship of the show because it is our independent voice that's shedding light on all of these different things. So let's get to our word of the day, which is germane, G-E-R-M-A-N-E. And it is ideas or information that's germane to a particular subject or situation is connected or important to it. And so it's germane that we talk about how this public policy down at the statehouse and from these bureaucracies here in Colorado, how that is affecting democracy. Really, our freedoms across the board, our freedom of mobility, our freedom to have reliable, efficient, affordable, and abundant energy sources, our freedom to have abundant and affordable food in the grocery store, all of these things are under attack. And so it's germane that we talk about these issues and connect the dots on that. Our quote for the show is from Bob Hope, entertainer and comedian who was born in 2000, excuse me, born in 1903, died in 2003. And he would make comments regarding politics. And he said, no one party can fool all the people all the time. That's why we have two parties. And again, that is Bob Hope. Talking about Denver and Eric, I said I'm glad that, congratulations to Mike Johnson for vetoing this needle exchange bill. And Eric said, Kim, Mike Johnson deserves no congratulations because what is happening to our state It's being done in our state, in our country. So no congratulations. Eric, you know what? I think you're right to have just the possibility of one little sliver of vetoing this particular bill. When we look at Denver is dirty and it's dangerous. And another listener said, I'm wondering if Mike Johnson would let his wife and child retire. go to downtown denver by themselves at night that's a very good question as well and then let's see a couple other things that came in on the text line uh let's see that was all of that and then this came in from one of our listeners she said people out west are very independent Colorado government has tried to condition us to use the trains for 30 years. People in the West simply do not want the trains. I highly doubt that we in Colorado actually voted for this type of transit system. It may look like we voted for it, but we will actually never know because we've really not had a chance to audit our elections. I think that's a really important point. And then another thing this listener said, says, what do you think is going to happen in the mountains in Colorado with all of the dead timber from the pine beetle that were ripe for massive fires? And she's absolutely right. When I went up to Grand Lake for U.S. Constitution Week. I looked at the mountainside, and it was just dead trees. I actually had a friend that had – they had a company that had a proposal to go in and cut down and take some of that – lumber that had those trees that had died because of the pine beetle kill and they were actually go in cut it cut it down and take it and they were then going to I think sell it for maybe some different furniture different things and And when the bureaucrats that they were working with realized that they might potentially make, these individuals might make some money from this dead pine beetle kill, they would not give them the permits to do that. And so there we sit with all of these dead trees in our Colorado mountains. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out there's gonna be some kind of a massive fire. and so this listener went on to say why why do you know why are we letting this happen it goes back to in the first hour when um in our this day in history in 1941 there was a warning from one of the admirals that there might be an attack upon pearl harbor and so we need to be holding uh those in positions to do their job to do their job and so we've got a lot of work to do here in colorado on all of this do check out the colorado union of taxpayers website that is coloradotaxpayer.org we are going to have an event next thursday the 23rd a legislative kickoff event a number of legislators will be there as well as the legislators who we will be giving their awards for their positions on on protecting you the taxpayer you can get more information tickets are just ten dollars each and you can buy those at coloradotaxpayer.org also we'd love to have you join us you will receive our weekly email that we send to legislators and govern the governor regarding legislation and our positions on that so for two dollars and eight cents a month you will receive hours and hours of analysis you'll know what's going on And then you can become active in any of these pieces of legislation that you're concerned about. On the line with me is Karen Levine. She's a REMAX realtor, a good friend of mine, known her for many, many years. And she's been a protector of private property rights at the local, county, state, national level. And owning your own property has become more difficult, again, I think because of public policy. And she's worked diligently to try to protect our opportunity for our own individual home. Karen Levine, welcome. Kim. Yep. It's good to have you here, Karen. And Lauren yesterday said interest rates had gone down just a little bit, which is great. What are you seeing in the home residential market?

SPEAKER 13 : 65:38

Well, I would say that the first couple of weekends of the new year were a little more slow than I would have anticipated. But I think Sadly, now that the Broncos, um, did not do well on Sunday, I think we'll see, uh, showings pick up here in the next couple of weekends. And, um, I know I have a couple of new properties coming on the market that, um, are really good, uh, values. Um, they are well cared for homes and I think, um, they will be something that the marketplace is looking for, one being a patio home up in Erie and the other a really lovely first-time home buyer home in Thornton, a three-bedroom, three-bath, two-car garage home priced under $500. So I think things are picking up. We'll pick up with a little bit of drop in interest rates that will entice some buyers to get out in the marketplace. We did have our annual economic summit last week, and I think the overall sentiment is rates are going to stay around this 6.5%, 7% throughout the year, and that that's our new normal. But we're a creative group, and we can get people into housing and good houses, you know, not just to buy a house but to get the right house. So the year is off and running.

SPEAKER 12 : 67:10

Okay. And people are probably looking for certain communities. I remember when there was this, again, I think from a public policy standpoint, to try to romance living in downtown Denver. But people probably, are people looking in downtown Denver? But I mean, they're looking in different spots, aren't they?

SPEAKER 13 : 67:34

Yeah, yeah. I'm, you know, there have been those that chose downtown living, a lot of the millennials, for the convenience of being able to walk to work, the downtown vibe, you know, the excitement of downtown. And as our population ages, then they find that suburban living is more to their liking, and so they, you know, move out. I haven't done a lot of work in downtown Denver recently. So I do hear from my colleagues, you know, that things were a little bit slower. And I'm sad to say that I'm sure with what occurred last week with the stabbings, you know, when people don't feel safe, they don't want to live there.

SPEAKER 12 : 68:20

Right, and people don't go down there either, which makes it so difficult for great restaurants down there that I continue to see headlines of restaurants closing in downtown Denver as well. And it's public policy that is making this all happen, and you've been so active in public policy. Is there anything ear to the ground now that the legislature is in session that you've heard that people need to be concerned about, or have you anything on that yet?

SPEAKER 13 : 68:51

Not yet. Not yet. I do know I did see the briefing from the Colorado Association of Realtors, and they're anticipating that this legislature will be as active or overly active as they were last year with, you know, somewhere in the range of, you know, six to 700 bills, which I'm really not sure why that's what needs to be happening unless it's bills to get rid of bills, get rid of policy. I would say in the forefront of the realtor community, we're going to be looking at and pushing for and advocating, lobbying for construction defect reform, which we have sort of dabbled in, tried to make some changes. But I think the sentiment is if we don't get this rolled back, so it's more attractive for developers and builders to build multifamily ownership units, that being condominiums, We can't bring affordability to our communities. So I know at the state association, those involved in legislative policy will be working diligently on that.

SPEAKER 12 : 70:01

Okay. And I guess one other question then on that. What about in these, well, what do you call it, like an ownership unit, like a condo? I know that people have been concerned about the fee, the regular fees for those kinds of... The HOA fees. Yeah, the HOA fees. So what's your comments about that?

SPEAKER 13 : 70:25

Well, the cost of living continues to go up, Kim, and the HOA fees... are fees that are set to cover things like insurance on the building, the amenities of the building, the management of, obviously, the homeowners association. And as the cost of everything continues to go up, those fees go up. And you don't get those fees down if the costs of goods and services don't go down. Sure. Colorado's been labeled as a place that insurers don't want to insure. Insurance companies, carriers don't want to be here. And those that are here, their policy fees, their premiums are very, very high. And when a HOA, a condominium community, is providing the insurance on the building, that's where a lot of that cost increase goes. And that's to give those owners' coverage if, you know, there is damage done to those buildings. So one challenge leads to another, right?

SPEAKER 12 : 71:34

That it does. But that's why if people are buying or selling a home, looking at a new build, they need to give you a call. What's that number, Karen Levine?

SPEAKER 13 : 71:44

The best number to get me a call at is 303-877-7516.

SPEAKER 12 : 71:50

And again, that is Karen Levine, 303-8... Say that again. I've had that memorized in here. I just drew a blank on it. So one more time. It's 303-877-7516, right? Yes, ma'am. You got it. Okay. Sounds great. Karen, we will see you next week. Thank you. Uh-huh. Gosh, there is so much going on, and boy, insurance coverage is so important. And so that's why you need to make sure that you know what you have and you have what you want. And the way to find out is to give the Roger Bank and State Farm Insurance team a call, make a complimentary appointment, and you can go over your insurance coverage and that number. You know what? I'm drawing blanks on numbers here all of a sudden. I think it's 303-895- I'm drawing a blank, so let's just listen to the spot.

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SPEAKER 12 : 74:20

And welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at Kim Monson dot com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We're an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something's a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. On the line with me is Pam Long. She is an author here at the Kim Monson Show. And she is also, let me get a little bit more information here regarding Pam Long. She is the director of the Children's Health Defense Military Chapter. She's a graduate of West Point, an Army veteran of the Medical Service Corps, and she served as a medical intelligence officer for NATO. And she's written a piece that we will publish this weekend, Three Ways to Defeat the Colorado Democrat Supermajority, because it's going to be very difficult, I think, down at the statehouse. We're going to talk with Senator Paul Lundeen here in a little bit as well. Pam Long, welcome to the show. Thanks for having me, Kim. And we're off to the races with the Colorado State Legislature. I just took a quick look at our Bill Track 50 with the Colorado Union of Taxpayers, and 147 bills have been introduced already, and they just convened a week ago. So this... This super majority, we've got to figure out ways to help those Republicans that are trying to stand in the gap and hold the line and stop a lot of this bad stuff. And you've got some strategies to do that.

SPEAKER 14 : 76:00

That's right. I looked at all the 700 bills from last session, and I pulled out what I think are the three best examples of how people can engage to overcome and defeat a bill, despite we do not have the votes in a Democratic supermajority to really kill a bill. So where should we start? I think we should start out with the most, the easiest approach, which is show up in numbers with all your allies in a database report against the bill. And this was really highlighted last year with SB 24-033, which was named the Lodging Property Tax Treatment Bill, which really was, because these bill names are really defective, it was a 400% tax increase on rental properties. We're talking those those residential properties that are used as Airbnbs and VRBOs, this bill aimed to increase taxes from 7%, which is residential rate, to 28%, which is the commercial rate for these short-term property rentals. And it was justified as tax equity, right? Anytime you hear the word equity, red flags should go up immediately. You already know that from your analysis with CUTT. And so they claim that these small private homes should be taxed just like large hotels with these higher consumption rates of public services. Well, of course, this was one of the most controversial bills last session. And Clara, the Colorado Lodging and Resort Alliance, really just knocked it out of the park in defeating this bill. So three things they did. First, Clara organized a survey of 2,500 rental homeowners and published an economic impact study. This study found that most rental homeowners would either evade this tax by renting less than 90 days or they would stop renting completely. And this would have an economic impact of over $1 billion and eliminate over 8,000 tourism jobs here in Colorado. A very powerful report. So second, Clara reached out to their rental network and had a media campaign to communicate the findings of this economic impact study, which would be devastating to our tourism here in Colorado. And third, Clara coordinated an advocacy day at the Capitol and 150 people, most of these just average people, just Citizens who rent a property, a second home, wearing blue shirts, very coordinated, and giving opposition materials to legislators. So the key takeaways from this strategy were economic evidence and personal engagement. But I think this bill also highlighted a common flawed origin of Colorado legislation, which is lack of stakeholder process with the public prior to introduction and lack of analysis of impact prior to introduction.

SPEAKER 12 : 79:03

Well, we see a lot of that. And the other thing is, is I really don't think these legislators should be voting on anything that they have not read completely. I think that would slow things down. But so the strategy then is because what happens, Pam, is there are interested parties that are basically coming up with these ideas for legislation. And then the bills are written up. And so many of the legislators don't really know what's in there. So explaining this from the survey, the economic evidence, the showing up. That it is a it's a commitment to show up down there because and I've seen a strategy also where they will extend these different hearing meetings, these different committee hearing meetings. And if there's a lot of people that have shown have shown up for a particular bill that the extremist Democrats are trying to push through, then they might put that particular hearing for that bill forward. Later in the committee hearing, people have to pay for parking. It is a real commitment to show up, Pam Long.

SPEAKER 14 : 80:13

It is a commitment, Kim, and they often will reschedule last minute, you know, a very contentious bill hearing with lots of people showing up to jerk people around. Oh, it was supposed to be at noon, but now it's at like 5 p.m. Now you're you're you're staying the night at the Capitol, which I have done many times. But I will say, because I want to leave more optimistic here in twenty twenty five. There is solidarity in that. I have made so many friendships and strengthened so many relationships with legislators during those times where I'm like, okay, I'm camped out here all night here at the Capitol. So take advantage, you know. We're going to make lemonade out of lemons this year.

SPEAKER 12 : 80:55

Well, and it really is helpful for the legislators that are trying to hold the line to see people there that are supporting them. I think that it kind of feeds on each other, gives legislators courage as well. And I think that that is important because they are supposed to be representatives of the people. And so these strategies are super important. Let's go to break. I'm talking with Pam Long. She has three ways to defeat the Colorado Democrat supermajority. We've talked about number one. And all this happens because of our sponsors. And I was out at the National Western last night and saw some of these beautiful... Just specimens of cattle. They were just spectacular. And I just love this whole industry. And, of course, I love the protein and the great steakhouse experience at home that Lavaca Meat Company provides.

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SPEAKER 12 : 84:10

welcome back to the kim Monson show be sure and check out our website that is kim Monson m-o-n-s-o-n.com sign up for our weekly email newsletter you can email me at kim kimmonson.com as well on the line with me is pam long and she writes very important pieces that we publish at the kim monson show she is a graduate of west point and she's an army veteran with the medical army medical service corps and she was a medical intelligence officer for nato and she's written a piece how we can push back on bad legislation that's proposed down at the state house but pam long before we get to that as you know you and i both love the center for american values in pueblo it's located on the the riverwalk there they have these beautiful uh portraits of valor of many of our medal of honor recipients as well as quotes by each of them But they're going to be doing a really great event on the 23rd. It's an on values presentation regarding the USS Pueblo, which was taken captive in the Vietnam War by the North Koreans. And the crew was held captive for over a year. But I know that you have a real heart for the Center for American Values as well.

SPEAKER 14 : 85:21

Well, Kim, even as you say that, I'm like, wow, I need to know more about that battle. Even as a West Point grad with lots of history, military history, lots of knowledge of our Medal of Honor winners, even I have so much yet to learn about preserving that history of our country and our heroes.

SPEAKER 12 : 85:40

Well, we really do. And so this particular, they have an exhibit that's open on January 2nd regarding Pueblo Remembers, regarding the USS Pueblo. And the online event is the 23rd. And Bob Chica, who was a crew member and held captive for a year, will be presenting. Unfortunately, I can't make it because I will be at the legislative kickoff for the Colorado Union of Taxpayers. And, of course, I'm pleased about that. But I've tried to be in two places at the same time. Can't do it. So more information about the Center for American Values, check out AmericanValuesCenter.org. More information about the Colorado Union of Taxpayers, go to ColoradoTaxpayer.org. And so let's continue on. You've got three strategies on things that can be done to try to stop some of this radical legislation that will very likely be proposed and headed to hearing here this legislative session. So what's number two?

SPEAKER 14 : 86:38

Well, the second strategy is to hire a lawyer to preemptively draft a legal challenge to any bill that violates our rights. I've seen this play out in so many different ways that I really want to highlight SB 24184, which is Support Surface Transportation Infrastructure Development from last session, which is really the bill, the deceptive title. It's a rental car tax as seed money for passenger rail systems that taxpayers did not authorize. And so what has happened throughout the legislative session, the American Rental Car Association drafted their legal challenge against this bill even before it was signed into law. And sometimes that is enough. A legal challenge, I've seen many examples where lawyers get involved and say, look, you push this bill through, we will take you to court. And that is enough for the bill to be withdrawn. In this case, it was not. This bill went into effect January 1st, 2025, which is a $3 a day what they call congestion impact fee on rental cars. And we all know that Colorado leaves the nation in extreme taxation, and we renamed these fees to circumvent taxpayer approval fees. These are taxes. So the case claims, the lawsuit claims that SB 184 violates federal law. And this is a national organization. It doesn't have to be a national organization. It can be federal. grassroots group, it could be a state organization. And so according to Colorado Public Radio, I will quote them, but through its lawsuit, the association is continuing to make the same argument now that it made when the legislation was being debated, that federal laws, including the 2018 Federal Aviation Administration Reauthorization Act, makes new rental car fees illegal if, among other reasons, they apply to airport-based rentals and the revenue is used for non-airport purposes, end quote from CPR. So potentially Colorado is imposing a tax, which they're calling a fee, which violates federal law, and this will play out in the courts. And essentially the American Rental Car Association is saying, you are making us the middleman to impose an illegal fee on people. And this is not – $3 a day ends up being $50 million. This is no small chunk of change here. So my takeaway here is that a legal challenge can deter or halt an illegal tax, but can also deter many types of other bills which violate the rights of citizens. And this can be accomplished. Retainers for lawyers can be accomplished through your networks. It could be everyone in your group that's being targeted could donate $25 a year to a legal fund, and then you build this war chest, and then when that bill comes that you know is coming to attack citizens, your industry, you now have a war chest to take them to court.

SPEAKER 12 : 89:34

So as you mentioned that, Pam Long, I'm thinking about the Colorado Union of Taxpayers, and we would really like to get our membership up to 1,000 people, and it's just $25. And if we do that, I could see that we might be able to then do just the strategy that you're mentioning, because we would have funds that we could then actually have some of these things drafted. And I hadn't really thought about that until right now you mentioned that. So please, I would really encourage people to join us just for $25 a year, because I think that we might be able to do some of that, I think. What's your thoughts on that, Pam?

SPEAKER 14 : 90:19

100%. I mean, I've seen the homeschoolers do this very effectively. The reason why we have a powerful and strong homeschool network and rights are HSLDA, the Homeschool Legal Defense Association, has come to bat so many times, not just with our governor, with legislation, but at the state health department, which is out of control. And it's because members pay $25 a year for protection of their homeschool rights and They have been able to protect our homeschoolers for over the past decade that I'm aware of probably much longer.

SPEAKER 12 : 90:53

Okay. And then this came in on the text line. Jenny said that we could actually rent for these pieces of legislation, we could rent party buses and take a whole bunch of people down to the statehouse. I think that's a great idea. And that goes back to your first idea on making sure that we can show up. I love that idea. What do you think?

SPEAKER 14 : 91:16

I love that idea. I love safety in numbers because Kim highlighted in the first show with the recent stabbings that Denver is not safe. I just want to say that Denver is not safe. As a person who used to travel there on a daily basis to be in our capital, I am very careful. I go at coordinated times. I meet with people in parking lots. And when I exit that building, somebody is walking me to my car at night.

SPEAKER 12 : 91:38

Yes, and it's not safe because of public policy. So let's talk about number three, though, regarding ways to push back on this legislation that's proposed by the super Democrat extreme majority.

SPEAKER 14 : 91:53

Okay, number three is organize to recall bill sponsors. When I'm talking recall, I'm meaning actually recall them from their elected position, that use of the word recall. So I want to highlight my HB 24-12-92, which was named prohibit certain bills used in mass shootings. This was the semi-automatic firearms ban, which Democrats call an assault weapons ban, which is just a very vague term for all guns. So 1292 was an assault weapons ban which passed the House last year after failing the previous year. They celebrated this as a very historic accomplishment. But in a Dramatic halt of momentum, bill sponsor Senator Julie Gonzalez, a Democrat, withdrew the bill from the Senate or postponed it indefinitely, and the bill died. And so when you read most of the news reports, Gonzalez was quoted as just congratulating the House for passing the bill and expressing her commitment to some future assault weapons ban, which we already see in session now. After more discussion with various groups was her vague reasoning for withdrawing the bill. Well, this sounded suspicious to me, so I read almost every article in 1292, and the Gazette reported a little gem that I think we should all be paying attention to. This is potentially the real reason why the bill died. I'm going to quote the Gazette from last year in May. A decade ago, two lawmakers were ousted in the state's first recall elections over their support for bills that set limits on ammunition magazines and expanded background checks. That history, I think, lingers, said Democratic State Senator Julie Gonzalez, one of the semi-automatic ban bill sponsors. She added that the proposal's success in the House signals that there is a new space for us to have different conversations, end quote from the Gazette. This statement by Gonzalez indicates that the Democratic supermajority is cautious of recalls. Regardless of what you think of our election system and election integrity, they're still being very cautious, whether it's statewide or in certain districts or in certain candidates. We don't know. Therefore, the Democrats, they're incrementally advancing their gun control agenda with several bills each year under Governor Polis instead of this over swift removal of Second Amendment rights. The average person in the public is unaware that this is happening. We're not putting this on the nightly news that, hey, we're just taking a slow incremental removal of your Second Amendment rights. So my key takeaway here is that the opposition to the supermajority is underutilizing recalls. And not all recalls will be successful, but these campaigns, they drain time, resources, reputation of the party involved. So recalls also bring public attention to overstepping of rights within the legislature that most citizens are not aware of. And this would create needed backlash to reform the party.

SPEAKER 12 : 94:57

Okay, and how does one go about organizing a recall? How would we do that?

SPEAKER 14 : 95:08

It's almost like it's a similar process when you're, you know, starting a petition for a ballot initiative. You know, there's lots of rules with the Secretary of State. But we have people who, you know, have organized this before. It's not impossible. It's just, you know, you file a little checklist within the Secretary of State, and we can do this.

SPEAKER 12 : 95:30

Okay. Now, it looks to me like Julie Gonzalez is going to be back again this year with another Second Amendment bill regarding our Second Amendment rights, trying to take away our right to protect ourselves and our families against bad guys. And so what's your ear to the ground on that, Pam Long?

SPEAKER 14 : 95:51

Well, like I just said, this is their incremental approach to remove the Second Amendment. They can't outright say we're removing your Second Amendment because people would be in the streets rioting. So, again, this is why getting more public attention and recalling some of these bill sponsors. Then they would have to defend their decisions, right, to the public. Right now the public is largely unaware, most people, not you and I, not Kim Monson listeners, but the average citizen has no idea what is going on at the Capitol. And one day they will wake up, potentially, and their rights are removed. And they'll say, wow, how did that happen? Well, it happened over the two terms of governor polis when there were strategies we could have been implementing to stop it. And it's up to us. That time is now.

SPEAKER 12 : 96:41

Well, it really is. And with Donald Trump being elected and inaugurated on Monday, I think there's a lot of hope at the federal level that this agenda to the radical activist extremist agenda will be turned around. But what I'm seeing, though, Pam Long, is I think there's a doubling down at the local, the county, and the state level. and particularly here in Colorado. So these strategies that you've come up with are really, really important. One other thing, you and I had a conversation about the Colorado Union of Taxpayers, and you said, Kim, I think you should make sure that people know that being a member of the Colorado Union of Taxpayers and receiving that weekly email of our analysis of all of this different legislation, is a tool that people should have in their toolbox. And being informed is one of the first things that people should do. And it's only $2.08 a month. It averages out. And I know that I think you utilize the Colorado Union of Taxpayers as you're going through analysis with your team.

SPEAKER 14 : 97:50

I'm totally using it. It is a great tool. I wish I had this tool 10 years ago because, you know, when I'm doing keyword searches for bills, this is a daunting task because they hide things. As I kind of highlighted today, the bill title is not going to say, hey, we're taking away your Second Amendment rights. That is not going to be in the bill title. And so what you're doing is your team is analyzing every bill and saying, hey, these are – Here's the bill. Here's the bad of it. Here's why you should oppose it. And I have affirmed this tool as, look, this is the heavy lifting. You are doing the hard work for people. You don't have to read 700 bills. They are doing that job for you. You pick people. The issue that keeps you up at night and you engage in one of the ways that we have talked about today. If everyone picked that one issue that keeps them up at night and engaged, we would have no problem with any of these strategies, whether getting 150 people to testify against the bill, whether funding lawyers to fight a lawsuit or organizing people on these recall teams. If everyone picks their one issue. So be a member of cut, become a member. It is $25 is nothing. That is like a month's worth of, you know, your local coffee stops and get engaged to protect Colorado.

SPEAKER 12 : 99:10

Well, I appreciate that. And you can do that by going to Colorado taxpayer.org. And we will be rolling out Pam longs, um, position paper here on three ways to defeat the Colorado Democrat supermajority. And that'll be in our weekly email this weekend at the Kim Monson show. So be sure and be signed up for that. And we're planning on having Senate Minority Leader Paul Lundeen on for this last segment. And we want to talk about some of the things that they're doing down at the Statehouse to protect us. And so you want to stay tuned for that. Do check out the USMC Memorial Foundation. Make sure that you have giving to them in your repertoire this 2025. We want to make this a reality to remodel the official Marine Memorial, which is right here in Colorado. More information, go to USMCMemorialFoundation.org. And for everything mortgages and in 49 of the 50 states, just not New York, reach out to Lauren Levy.

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SPEAKER 17 : 101:00

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SPEAKER 12 : 102:23

Welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMonson.com as well. Pam Long, who is an author here at the Kim Monson Show, but she's also a graduate of West Point, former captain in the Army Medical Service Corps. He's written a piece about how we as citizens can push back on this Democrat supermajority and bad legislation that is proposed down at the Statehouse. So, Pam, thanks for staying on. And we've got Senate Minority Leader Paul Lundin on the line. They had a great press conference the other day where they have a plan to help families in our state save up to $4,500. That's real money. Senator Lundin, welcome to the show.

SPEAKER 16 : 103:12

It's my pleasure to be with you, Kim. You're smarter than average audience. And Pam, glad you're still on as well. Yeah, there's a couple of conversations going on in the state of Colorado right now. The legislative conversation, the conversation down at the state capitol is about, oh, my gosh, the state government is a billion dollars short on meeting its budget. And it needs to do all the things it needs to find every last nickel and penny it can get from the people of Colorado. So the state can be a happy government. The second conversation that's going on in Colorado more broadly is among the people of Colorado, the small businesses of Colorado, the businesses of Colorado. And it is a conversation that says over the last number of years. All these policies, all these hidden taxes, all these fees have brought us to we can't afford to live in Colorado. Housing's out of control. Groceries are out of control. Transportation is not good and it's expensive. And every other day costs of living are just running away from us. So as you correctly identified, the Senate Republican caucus, we've identified and we have rolled out a package of bills where we're going to endeavor to to by reducing regulation, cutting these hidden taxes, rolling back these excessive and idiotic fees, put $4,500 per family back in the pockets of the people of Colorado. That's our goal. We've got bills to do it, and we're pressing forward on that now. Are we going to be met with opposition? Of course. The people that put all these regulations in place that are choking the lifeblood of Colorado out, in fact, will oppose what we have to do. They're there for the government. We're there for the people.

SPEAKER 12 : 104:57

And the visual that you have at your press release is amazing. You're standing there with a stack of bills, $4,500, and it's a great visual for people to understand that this is real money that's being taken from them by the government, and this is money that the Senate Republicans are trying to get back into people's pockets. I think it's a very important visual, Senator Lundin.

SPEAKER 16 : 105:25

Absolutely, it is. It's interesting, and to be completely candid, it's not actual $1 bills. They're fake $1 bills, but they are the equivalent size $1 bills. Two and a half, three foot tall column of $1 bills totaling up to $4,500. And our plan is... that if the Democrats choose to join us, then that column of $4,500 representing the money we're going to put back in the pockets of the people of Colorado per family, that column will remain the same size. If the Democrats, however, choose to shred... The dollars that should be going back to the people of Colorado, we're going to visually shred an equivalent amount of those fake $1 bills and show the people of Colorado day after day through this 120-day legislative session the impact of Democrat policies having on their pocketbooks.

SPEAKER 12 : 106:19

Well, Pam Long, I'm sure you love this idea, yes?

SPEAKER 14 : 106:23

I love visuals. They're super effective. And I love the goal of $4,500 to a homeowner in property tax relief. I mean, this is a difference between some people staying in their homes or not staying in their homes.

SPEAKER 16 : 106:39

Yeah, absolutely. Some of the Democrat – there's, of course, Democrat blogs out there, and there's organizations that represent themselves to be media. They're not. They're Democrat blogs. They mock us. They say, oh, what's 27? They didn't even get the number right. What's 27 cents per delivery? It's actually now – it was 28. It was 27 when it started. Then it went up to 28. This year it's 29 cents per delivery. What's 29 cents, I would say, to a family? it's $60, $70 a year, and that's real money when you're trying to make ends meet. That's the way we look at it. The other side looks at it differently. And when you cobble together all of these different elements that we put together, you get $4,500. That's real money.

SPEAKER 12 : 107:22

Well, it is, Senator Lundin. So what are just maybe a few of the things that you're proposing that will help save this money?

SPEAKER 16 : 107:30

You bet. We're working on repealing Senate Bill 260. It's a big bill that gave us a whole bunch of these hidden fees and taxes, the 29-cent fee we just talked about. It's also created four additional enterprises of government to produce transportation ideas that put people on trains and buses. The challenge is... The people of Colorado are not adopting the transportation program that the Democrat social engineers are trying to push on the people of Colorado. So this money that's being collected is going into a project that is not even being broadly adopted by the people of Colorado, nor do I believe it ever was. will be. And we're from the West. We are used to getting on our horse, riding to where we need to go do our business, tying our horse up at the rail, doing our business, and then getting back on our horse and going home. That's kind of the way we work. This idea of herding people into buses and trains doesn't work. Now, I went to school in New York City. I love the metropolitan transit system, the subway system of New York, because it actually made sense there. You had a lot of concentrated people. You could move a It made sense that here in the wide open West, it just doesn't make sense. So that's one place. We've got the bag fees. This is probably the smallest in terms of dollars. It's another bill that Senator Bright from Weld County is going to bring that. We'll bring down costs on transportation. We've got a bill that would promote nuclear energy. It's estimated that nuclear energy would generate a savings of $700 to $900 per family in Colorado if we added that into the energy mix in Colorado. But the biggest place is housing. That's where people are really feeling the pinch. The cost of housing has escalated by about 35% in the last five years. Median home price used to be about $400,000. Now it's north of $600,000. And no new condominiums or materially no new condominiums, which are the most affordable housing, are being built in Colorado because of the construction defects laws that invite lawsuits. It's estimated that it adds about $40,000 per door, the cost of construction defects or the threat of construction defects laws on every for sale multifamily home that's built. You can build the same thing for rent, multifamily, an apartment building or an apartment unit, For tens of thousands of dollars less, then you could build the exact same unit and have it for sale. It's just a difference in the laws where the construction defects laws invite lawsuits on developers and builders that would build multifamily for sale units. and therefore they don't develop it. The risk is too great, and so it's not being built. And so we don't have that first rung of homeownership, condominiums, for sale, multifamily homes. They're just not being built in Colorado, and we've got to fix that. So that would bring one of the biggest hits. I mean, there's an estimated $2,900 per family in savings that would be associated with that.

SPEAKER 12 : 110:50

Well, this is really creative, and it's standing for something. I love that, Senator Lundin. So thank you for giving us a primer on all of this. I really do appreciate it. So thank you.

SPEAKER 16 : 111:03

Absolutely. You know, we're there at the Capitol for the people. That's what Republicans do. Government, yeah, occasionally it does something right, but not very often. The people, they're the creative power that drives forward Colorado and drives forward America.

SPEAKER 12 : 111:17

Well, absolutely. So, Senator Lundeen, thank you so much. And Pam Long, author here at The Kim Monson Show, thank you also. And this is an important piece that we'll be rolling out this weekend. so with that our quote for the end of the show i went to bob hope and he entertained the troops during war times and he said this i was there i saw your sons and husbands your brothers your sweethearts i saw how they worked played fought and lived i saw some of them die i saw more courage more good humor in the face of discomfort more love in an era of hate and more devotion to duty than could ever exist under tyranny So today, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and list well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals, and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you, and God bless America.

SPEAKER 06 : 112:29

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SPEAKER 05 : 112:46

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