Join Mike Gallagher as he navigates the heated discussions sparked by Van Jones’ critique of Charlie Kirk’s views on racial issues and criminal justice reform. With Mark Davis, Mike analyzes the undercurrents of race driving today’s political narratives and examines an intriguing New York mayoral poll result. The conversation takes a lighter turn as they delve into a viral ball dispute, exploring societal expectations and the challenges of public etiquette in tense situations.
Mike Gallagher. Every day, Mike visits with Mark Davis, morning host on 660 AM, The Answer in Dallas. Here’s today’s M&M experience.
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Speaking of CNN, Van Jones called out our friend and our colleague, Salem’s own Charlie Kirk. And Charlie is often cited in these culture issues and these political issues. Van Jones weighed in, criticizing Charlie, saying that he is stoking the fans of racial unrest. And look, they have also expressed some measure of sympathy and compassion for the monster who did this to her. Well, what was he going through and what was his mental illness? But Charlie responded. He said, Van Jones, I’m not ashamed of anything I’ve said, but you should be. You’re part of a media cabal that tried to silence this story because it exposes the gross incompetence of Democrats’ so-called criminal justice reform. Mark, that’s the whole story.
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Nobody can. I don’t care. You don’t care. No conservative cares what color the attacker was or what color the victim is. The race angle comes in because we have a massive societal blind spot that lets monsters of color wander free because addressing their mental illnesses, their criminal propensities is is has been pilloried and condemned. as racist.
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That’s the problem. That’s right. The reason race is part of this conversation is because the left and the Democrats have made race the central tenet of criminal justice reform. You know, look, if a white guy had done this to a young black woman… And then after he slit her throat, was caught on tape saying, I killed the black girl, or the N-word, or even worse. Oh, my gosh. We would have riots. We would have George Floyd 2.0. It would be that all over. And everybody knows it. That’s what makes me crazy. Everybody’s all in on this. They understand it. And look, I continue to like our chances. Polling suggests that the midterm elections are going to be very kind to the Republican Party. And I think one big factor is going to be, I believe, the election of Zoran Mamdani as the next mayor of New York City. As we were speaking just a moment ago, the New York Times-Siena poll comes out.
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Mm-hmm.
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Polling, he ain’t even close. He’s so ahead of everybody else. He holds a huge lead in the mayor’s race. However, his lead diminishes considerably if it was one-on-one.
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With him and Cuomo.
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That’s right, him and Andrew Cuomo. Here’s the New York Times-Siena poll right now. If the 2025 New York City mayoral election were held today, who would you vote for? 46% for Zoran. 24% for Andrew Cuomo. 15% for the Republican and our friend Curtis Lewa. Only 9% for Eric Adams. Look, I don’t think it’s a secret. Even President Trump wants it to be Cuomo. So who are we looking to get?
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Are we looking for Eric Adams to drop out? Because Curtis isn’t going to. If he really has 46 and Cuomo just has 24, even if you add in Eric Adams’ 9, that only gets him to 33. Gets him to 39.
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24 for Cuomo, 15 for Sliwa.
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Yeah, but I don’t think the Sliwa voters are going, well, maybe they would. If Curtis got out, would Republicans go, all right, there’s no Republican, at least I’ll vote for the least insane Democrat who is, well, but that’s probably Eric Adams.
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Right, so it’s a 24, 34, 39 vote. Yeah, I mean, if you took all three of the polling right now, Cuomo, Sliwa, and Adams, all three of them, that beats Mamdani. Barely. Barely. I think he’s going to win.
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I really do think he’s going to win. I had held out some, I’ll believe it when I see it, prospect, but I may already be seeing it. I don’t know. It’s November of this year, right?
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Charlie Gasparino had a piece we read yesterday on the show. Charlie said, you know what? There’s starting to be a creeping realization that this could happen. And for the business community and the world, we’re saying, you know what? Give up. Let him win. Burn it all to the ground. Let the world see how socialism and communism is going to fail in a great American city like New York. There is value to that.
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I don’t want that, but that is the silver lining, if you want to call it that. We’ve got a master class in how terrible the ideas are.
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It comes in November of 2026. Because then people are going to look at that. He’ll have, you know, almost a year under his belt of running that city into the ground. He’s already said, I mean, he’s giving interviews now saying, oh, I’ll get rid of the gang task force at the NYPD. We will let more people out of prison.
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We will reduce our jail population. What does that mean? And see to it that people are released more quickly.
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Correct.
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There’s good timing.
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Good timing. Now think about that with what we’re talking about, what the country’s talking about with Charlotte. And then here’s this guy coming along. So we’re going to have to wait and see. The other thing we missed yesterday with you being off, Karen Ballsnatcher. Karen Ballsnatcher.
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That’s a very uncomfortable name.
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Well, that’s her nickname. Philly’s Karen. You’re absolutely right. Philly’s Karen. I prefer Karen Ball Snatcher. I’m sure you do. Look, but you know what’s amazing about this story? In 2025, she’s still not been identified.
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That is beyond… That’s wild! I’m kind of glad because she’s on the wrong side here. We can fast track this because she’s in the wrong. The dad absolutely had every right to the ball. I believe that’s been established. My etiquette question for you, I was watching The Five yesterday, and Greg Gutfeld, this rarely happens, was 1,000% wrong about something. He congratulated the dad for giving the ball up because it de-escalated, and we don’t have enough de-escalation. He’s right about that, but… There’s a way to de-escalate, and that’s by very calmly looking into this woman’s bugged eyes and saying, ma’am, I got to the ball first. He tried that. That’s all there is to it.
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He tried that.
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No, no, no, he didn’t.
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Yes, he did. He shook like, oh! And then he calmly told her, it was my ball, I got the ball. Mark, no. He didn’t do it long enough. What are you going to do? What are you going to do? Are you going to get in a fist fight with a woman in front of your kid? No, no.
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I’m going to never raise my voice.
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She was in his face. I don’t care. She was grabbing him. She had given that ball.
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Greg was 100% correct. So you think the dad was right in caving and folding… Of course he was.
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And look how it turned out. Let’s go to the text line. And look how it turned out. Look how it turned out. The kid got a gift bag. The kid met with players.
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It all worked out great. But the lesson is bad. The bully won. The terrorist won. No, she didn’t.
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No, she didn’t. She’s the most hated woman in America. I know. I mean, Mark, nothing can change that. Good for him. If he’d have reached back and popped her or they’d have gotten into it. That’s not what I’m saying.
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Please listen to what I’m actually saying and imagine. I’m writing a little play in my head, I know. It’s where as she goes, it’s my, my, my, my. He doesn’t raise his voice one molecule more than I am to you right now. And saying, ma’am, I have every right to this ball. I understand you’re upset. But this ball belongs to me and not to my son. You are not getting it back. And have a nice day.
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And when she doesn’t back off, then what? And when she doesn’t calm down.
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She wasn’t calming down. You continue to speak to her in exactly this childlike tone.
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Oh, would you stop it, Mother Teresa? Bologna. Bologna. You maintain your fool.
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You stand up for what’s right. He was 1,000% wrong to surrender the ball.
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He was 1,000% right. He did de-escalate, and that’s the problem. We got everybody hitting everybody.
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I would have de-escalated too. No, you wouldn’t have. When de-escalation involves surrender on a vital point, that’s not good quality de-escalation.
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And the surrender led to a very happy ending for that young boy. But the lesson is that. She’s hated. And again, it’s astounding to me that people know who she is.
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People know her. This woman and the Dobbs decision Supreme Court leaker are two. I can’t believe that we don’t know who either of those people are. Maybe it’s the same person. In today’s world? Wow.
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It’s crazy because you know that she’s got neighbors, she’s got coworkers, she’s got family. And all it takes is one person to say, yeah, that’s Betsy or that’s Martha or whatever her name is.
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And I actually hope that, I actually actively hope that doesn’t happen. Because as much as I’ve, you know, we all have the similar view of her, but she’s going to be destroyed.
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