Join us as we unravel a night of political theater where congressional decorum was pushed aside in favor of loud disruptions. We delve into two touching moments of young individuals being celebrated by the POTUS, juxtaposed with the Democrats’ response, or lack thereof, to these events. This episode challenges listeners to consider what it means to be ‘normal’ in today’s polarized political climate, focusing on real stories of honor and the reactions they drew.
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Finding that members continue to engage in willful and concerted disruption of proper decorum, the chair now directs the sergeant at arms to restore order. Remove this gentleman from the chamber.
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Members are directed. Well, that was a white trash moment. Good heavens. I don’t think that I have ever in my whole life
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I don’t think that I have ever seen anything like what I just saw on the floor last night. It was pretty stunning, this move to disrupt whatever they were doing. to cause problems. There were times when I couldn’t even hear what POTUS was saying, and he kept having to stop. And there were, I mean, a number of Democrats that were told to, that were escorted out. And I just don’t know that I’ve ever seen anybody go to the point of… Yelling over the president of the United States and not just yelling over him, but then like trying to stop him from speaking. That’s the difference, because I see some of these stupid people. They’re like, oh, well, Marjorie Taylor Greene yelled a whole bunch. Marjorie Taylor Greene may have objected, but she didn’t stop the whole flippant proceeding. I mean, Al Green stopped the whole thing. He was he was loud. He stood up. He was shaking his cane. And then there were a number of other ones who were yelling also. And it was just such a bad look for Democrats. All they had to do was show up and be normal. All they had to do, show up, be normal. That’s it. You know, it’s not hard. I mean, we all do it every day, do we not? You show up to work and you’re normal. You know, you don’t try to raise hell. You’re not a jerk. You show up, you do what you got to do. You go to the grocery store, normal, right? You go to your kids’ games or whatever, normal, right? Not Democrats. No, they got to be the biggest freaks in the room. They got to be the ones who constantly cause problems. And then they sit here and they wonder, well, gee, why didn’t anybody vote for us? Well, let me tell you why nobody voted for y’all. Because of the optic last night. The optic last night. You had the President of the United States, who, by the way, was sweetly honoring the the uh the 13 year old cancer survivor i’m going to play some of that because that was one of the most heartwarming moments i’ve ever seen and it was him and then there was another young man who had applied to go to west point and potus told him at the inauguration last night that he was going to west point so i want to highlight this optic for you if we have that the 13 year old cancer survivor And he was the one who became an honorary Secret Service agent. Watch this. This is one of the highlights.
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And tonight, DJ, we’re going to do you the biggest honor of them all. I am asking our new Secret Service director, Sean Curran, to officially make you an agent of the United States Secret Service.
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Best surprise face ever. That was so great. I loved that moment. That was such a great moment. Now, not to be a bummer with all of it, but here’s the optic I’m talking about. You have this situation. His face was the best face in the world. You have his story, and then you have the story of the young man, which we’ll play later, who… wanted to go to West Point and he was accepted right on the floor. Actually, you know what? Go ahead and play that. He was accepted right in. POTUS told him, you’re in. You’re going to West Point, cadet. You’re going to West Point. Watch this. This was the other great, great moment that they had. And I’m just shocked at how many people insisted on just sitting down. Do we have this one? This was the West Point cadet. This was the other great moment for that night. I have.
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Okay, yeah, let’s go ahead and this is great. A six-letter varsity athlete, a really good athlete, they say. A brilliant student with a 4.46, that’s good, GPA. And his greatest dream is to attend the US Military Academy at West Point.
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So great. He’s hugging his mom. So great.
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Great stories, right? And Jason, that’s a very big deal getting in. That’s a hard one to get into. But I’m pleased to inform you that your application has been accepted. What a great object.
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I’m going to get into the meat and potatoes of his speech here. But this is what I want to really highlight. So this was… So this was… These were two stories in addition to… POTUS talked about Lake and Riley. He talked about Jocelyn Nungary. He talked about those families who’ve been victimized by illegal immigration and the criminality that goes along with it. Democrats said… The camera cut away at one moment… And it showed Debbie Wasserman Schultz and I can’t remember her name, the rep from Michigan. And they were sitting there, one of Wasserman Schultz in her pink jacket, the other representative with like a pink accent, sitting there looking sour. And it was right after the moment. I had to think that the cameraman did it on purpose. It was right after the moment that he had told DJ after DJ had his surprise face, etc. And they had a quick shot after this. And it showed Debbie Wasserman Schultz. and the other, I think it was Dingell, that were sitting there looking glum and sour. And then when there was a wider shot of the room, all of the Democrat side, and this is, it’s not unusual for Democrats not to cheer for Republican achievements or parts of the Republican agenda, but this was different. This was very different. This was about acknowledging not Republican achievements, but two young men. And they couldn’t even be bothered. They couldn’t be bothered to clap for the Hungary’s. They couldn’t be bothered to clap for Lake and Riley. They couldn’t be bothered to clap for the young woman that they had. She was the one who we talked about her yesterday was seriously injured in a volleyball match. game by a man who was playing on the women’s team opposing them. This is the shot that we’re talking about. I mean, what is your problem that you can’t applaud for these things? Aren’t there some things that are sort of shared? Not everything has to be through the lens of Republican or Democrat, but you wouldn’t know that by watching Democrats last night because they sat on their asses and they refused to even so much as clap when they were talking about these things that these victims’ families went through or these young women. We get it. You hate legal immigration and you want to traffic in as many people across the border as possible, which is why you do absolutely nothing when you have the opportunity to curtail the deluge that’s coming across the southern border. I get it. We all get it.
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But could you maybe get over yourselves for five seconds and acknowledge that there are greater things than your politicization in the room?
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Maybe 13-year-old DJ or maybe the young cadet or maybe the families of these victims who’ve had to suffer from the policies that you’ve created that encourage the criminality. They chose to not be human.
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That is the optic last night. And then they wonder why they lose. People voted for normal. Normal. Normal people doing normal stuff, having normal problems, living normal lives. They chose normal. They didn’t choose men playing dress up.
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They sure as hell didn’t choose a lawless border. They didn’t choose any of that. They chose normal. And Democrats could have given them normal last night.
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The most basic thing they could have done for everything you want to say about Republicans, the most basic thing they could have done was to just Be normal. Be normal.
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Don’t show up with your auctioneer paddles with stupid contrite sayings written on them. Just trite sayings on them. It’s stupid. They showed up with these little auctioneer paddles. One side said, well, I think they had all different signs. One side said, Musk lies. And then the other was, what was it? Musk lies. False. There were several. Did they all get the same ones? I don’t know. I don’t know if they did or not. So, all they had to do. Normal. They didn’t have to wear pink. I find it incredibly ironic that people showed up last night wearing pink. But heaven forbid you ask them to define what a woman is. But if it’s to their advantage, these prostitutes for the cause will wear pink. So lame. They wouldn’t be normal. It’s so not hard. They couldn’t show up. They couldn’t applaud for just basic things that are shared, should be shared issues. And they couldn’t do it. And then they just can’t understand for the life of them, guys. Why it is that no one votes for them. Why is it? I can’t imagine why. After watching last night, can you imagine blowing? I mean, how many more opportunities are they going to blow? How many more? Now, the speech last night, there were two things. I thought it was, I thought Trump struck the right tone. And that was going to be tricky for him because you you’ve won and you want to telegraph that not only to your base, but your supporters in Congress. You want to keep that momentum going, but you don’t want to look like a jerk at the same time. The left is always going to hate him no matter what he says. But I actually thought he hit the right tone and he was funny and there was some levity. We’re going to talk about this because there were several things that he did right. One thing he did not go far enough on and one thing he didn’t do at all. And we’ve got to talk about those. So we’re going to get into all of that here. We’ve got a really, really busy day. We’ve got a lot on deck. We have headlines on the way, and we’ll make sure that we get to all of that. And then, of course, we’ve got a couple of guests. We’re going to be looking at taxes, tariffs, and the economy. That was one of the things that he really, really needed to hit, and he didn’t. So we have a lot more in store. Stick with us. Our partners that help bring you this program, Gold Co. You guys know I love gold and silver. It’s tangible. And during the president’s first term, gold surged 53%, silver 51%. Precious metals could potentially break new records in 2025. So protect your wealth with gold and silver today. They stand the test of time. At danalikesgold.com, you can get your free 2025 gold and silver kit today and qualify for up to $15,000 in bonus silver, maybe even more. safeguard your savings with this free 2025 gold and silver kit. Visit danalikesgold.com, join the thousands who’ve already called GoldCo the number one rated gold company, and you can get a free copy of their 2025 gold and silver kit and qualify for up to $15,000 in bonus silver, possibly even more. That’s danalikesgold.com.
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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It’s time for Dana’s Quick Five.
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So more than half of the adults worldwide will be overweight or obese by 2050, according to a report, and this is from a piece of garbage… British publication, but oh well, it’s called The Guardian. More than half of the adults, they said in the study, it’s published in another journal that I don’t really have a lot of faith in, The Lancet, considering everything with coronavirus, but they said more than half of adults and a third of children and young people worldwide will be overweight or obese by 2050. They said it’s an unparalleled threat. So, 2.11, you know, well, maybe if, you know, we didn’t put so much processed junk in our food for… To be faster. I don’t know what. We’re faster and unhealthier. Apparently, I don’t know if this is like regular animal behavior. I saw this. I don’t know that I would consider this a headline. But there was apparently a mouse that was videotaped giving CPR to his unconscious mouse friend. As evidence of animal first aid, this mouse, this is wild. Are you sure that’s what he was doing? See, I feel like this is a Monty Python thing. So, you know, to me, it looks like the mouse is trying to eat his tongue. You know, maybe pick out his teeth. You know, finders keepers, right? You don’t need them right where you’re going. So maybe that’s what he’s doing. And we, as stupid humans, are looking at this going, oh my gosh, look at the mouth. That’s not what he’s doing. He’s, you know, because he’s a rodent. Did that thought occur to the people who were studying these mice?
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No, they need good results for their studies.
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Yeah. Oh, by the way, real quick. I don’t think I have this on here. I think I forgot to put it on here. But are you guys aware of the woolly mouse?
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The what?
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the rage clapping look can we just i asked for people every single week more than that we’re showing all the did you see her how hard she clapped and it was it was one of those weird slow serial killer claps first off welcome back to the show dana lash with you bottom of this first hour first off let’s full stop there are difference in claps okay right so you have the You know, polite little, like, what is it, an opera clap? When they do that, they’re like, or a golf clap, whatever. I don’t know. There’s the little barely clapping because it might be gauche. And then there’s the more like, yeah, that’s great. Like, I really appreciate what you just did. Then there’s the excited like valley girl seal clap, right? And then you have like the clap that affirms. It’s more of a, like the Shia LaBeouf gif where he’s, yes, like I am affirming you. And then you have what she is doing. We call this kids, the serial killer clap. So there’s another movement that goes along with the serial killer clap, right? So not only do you have the, I’m trying not to hit the mic. Not only do you have the, but you got to stare like a psycho. At the person to whom you are addressing the clap. So in her mind, as she is doing her rage clap, I mean, it’s purposeful and she’s got she’s so offended. She’s so offended. You can. Oh, my gosh. It’s just almost the perspiration almost created a cloud of rage over her in the room. I mean, she’s rich. She’s like her jaws clenched. Her lips are pursed together. Her fingers, even though she’s clapping, her fingers are pressed together. She’s tense. Her thumb is stretched out tense. I mean, her arms are I mean, it’s rigid. She’s probably imagining violent acts with every clap. She’s rage clapping. I just wish she would have said Foka and not Pocahontas. I do not feel bad about this broad. First off, if you are unfamiliar with the stuff that she’s claimed in her life, hold up, hold up. Wait, full stop right now. Wait. Am I going to get cited for even like humming it? Casting it. So are you guys? I wrote about her extensively back in the day. Do you guys remember? Because she said she was in a Native American, right? I don’t even remember what all nation she was claiming membership to. Just to remind you how ridiculous this woman is. Guys, she wrote a she had a book called Pow Wow Chow. Indian recipes, right? Indian recipes. Because she’s an Indian, right? She was literally marketing herself at Harvard as the first woman of color that’s on the board, whatever. White as can be. And remember, they ran her DNA. It was actually Cherokee genealogists that ran it. And they said that… The closest she ever came to Cherokee in terms of genealogy was maybe being near the blood of those her ancestors murdered when they were rounding them up for the trail of genocide. But I digress. So she said that she was Cherokee. She’s Cherokee. You know, you know, the famous Cherokee recipe came of cold omelets with crab meat. It’s a French recipe, but apparently Cherokee were great French food connoisseurs. Did you know this? I had no idea. Oh, my gosh. They loved Worcestershire sauce and probably could pronounce it better. They loved all of that. They loved imported mustard. Did you know? Because that’s in her recipe. We’re told that the crab dip is a famous Cherokee food. And nobody questioned it because she was a Democrat. And they were they were like, maybe no one will notice that we’re putting up this blonde haired, blue eyed white woman and saying that she’s a Cherokee Democrat. Nobody will know. So I don’t feel in no ways bad. I smiled at that one. All right. We’ve got I want to get into some of this other audio and that we have. So two things that POTUS did. I thought that he did and I thought, well, one thing that he did, I think he needed to do more of and one thing he didn’t do. First is this. I loved when he… was he talked about tariffs, but I think that he needed to do more when he talked about tariffs. I think that he needed to go a little bit deeper. And I say this because I think that some people need to realize, I mean, we all understand how it works. We need to understand his strategy for it. He talked about it, Audio Sunbite 5. This was part of it. Listen.
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Our farmers starting on April 2nd, it may be a little bit of an adjustment period. We had that before when I made the deal with China, $50 billion of purchases. And I said, just bear with me. And they did. They did probably have to bear with me again. And this will be even better. That was great. The problem with it was that Biden didn’t enforce it. He didn’t enforce it. Fifty billion dollars of purchases. And we were doing great. But Biden did not enforce it. And it hurt our farmers. But our farmers are going to have a field day right now. So to our farmers, have a lot of fun. I love you, too. I love you, too.
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He talked a little bit about how it would benefit American households. Audio soundbite six. This is part of the tariff talk.
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Stories like Jeff’s remind us that tariffs are not just about protecting American jobs. They’re about protecting the soul of our country. Tariffs are about making America rich again and making America great again, and it’s happening, and it will happen rather quickly. There’ll be a little disturbance, but we’re okay with that. It won’t be much. No, you’re not. And look where Biden took us. Very low, the lowest we’ve ever been.
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I actually thought, you know, for other than this and there’s one other miss that he had, I thought his speech was pretty spot on. But people understand tariffs and they understand taxation. When you’re talking about tariffs in terms of equalizing everything, it’s not that people are dumb. And I think that people need to get over being afraid of asking, so what does this mean? explain this because not everybody can study every facet of politics. I mean, you all have families to raise and you’re working your butts off and you’re trying to pay down the deficit that we’ve got. I get it. It’s on the part of the shoulders of the politicians to do this. And one of the things that Trump needs to do is have a 30 second elevator pitch explaining, you know what, this is what my strategy is. And I understand what his strategy is. I don’t know if I entirely agree with all of it, but I totally do get it because we’re being kicked around by all these other countries. And then when we say, hey, if you’re going to sit here and tax our goods, then we’re going to reciprocate, which is one of the things that Trump mentioned yesterday. So spare me the weeping and gnashing of the teeth of this fake BS about free trade or fair trade when it’s never afforded to the United States. And I think it’s completely within our interest to advocate for such, which is the leverage that he is using tariffs for. He needs to explain this in a 30 second elevator pitch to Americans, busy Americans who are too busy to sit here and start reading about econ 101 and going back to their school days. He needs to explain it in a way where, look, this is what it is, my strategy for it. And in the remaining the remaining 15 seconds, make people understand, OK, it’s going to be tough, but there are going to be tradeoffs and it’s going to be less tough because of that. He needs to say it like that. I would have done it differently. I would have had tax cuts first and then have messed with tariffs because people need to see that movement in their money. They need to see them keeping more of their own money before you start talking to people about increasing the cost, even if it’s temporarily of other items. That is something that I think we all understand. And by the way, for everybody, it is okay to not entirely agree a million percent with a politician because you have a soul and a brain. And I seriously doubt any of you even agree with your spouses on 100% of everything. So you have permission. I’m giving it to you right now. It’s okay to not agree with a million percent. You would be a zombie if you did. It’s okay to have questions. It’s okay to be like, I don’t entirely get it. I don’t entirely understand the line of importance of all of this or the order of it. Excuse me, the order of doing tariffs before tax cuts. I think that people are much more amenable to tariffs after they’ve seen some reduction in their financial burden because of tax cuts being made permanent. That’s what I would have done differently. Now, I also understand that we’re on the edge of a knife economically, and maybe that’s later he can explain that reason. But it is so important. Here’s why it’s so important that he’s got to keep everybody on the same page on this. Those are the people that made your coalition. The people that got tired of Democrats, the people that were tired of the endless spending and the unaccountability, they went over and they voted for Trump. This was one of the big reasons, the three big reasons, immigration, the woke stuff and money. Those are the three big reasons that people left the left or left the middle and voted for the right. So it’s not a party party. It’s a coalition. You have the party and then there’s other people that are helping the party. That’s your coalition. In order to keep those people, you’re going to have to deliver. They’re going to have to deliver. Which brings me to my second point. He mentioned this to Democrats, but he didn’t say it to Republicans. He said, you’re all going to be wanting to pass those tax cuts. You might not get elected. He needs to be telling that to Republicans. The biggest hurdles to his agenda weren’t on the right side. So when you’re standing up, you have, you know, stage right and then house right. So it’s house left, stage right. It wasn’t those people, the Democrats sitting on the right side that he needed to address that to. It was the Republicans that he had sitting on that were on his left that he needed to make that statement to. And I understand that it was a celebratory mood, but I think there was a little room for a little bit of sternness and severity and pointing out those Republicans and saying, you know what? I didn’t give you leave. I didn’t get a mandate in November for you all to pass a continuing resolution that literally does nothing more than perpetuates and continues Biden’s existing fiscal framework, including all current spending levels. That’s not what I got a mandate to do. He should have put them on blast in front of the American people. And I was disappointed that he didn’t because he is the only one with the ability to pressure these lawmakers in the way that is required to make them bend to the voters will on this. That’s why he’s there to make these people bend to voters will because clearly they’re not listening to us. But maybe if he gets there and he’s real strict with them, maybe they’ll listen to him. He needed to do that and he did not do that because they’re his biggest hurdle. They are the people who are saying, yeah, let’s add $345 billion in additional spending. Yeah, let’s not actually cut anything. Let’s continue the Joe Biden rate of spending, which is exactly what is in that CR. And it’s not even a budget. It’s not a bill. It is a resolution. It is a continuing resolution. So they’re like, yeah, well, let’s just go ahead and continue. We’ll go ahead and do this and we’ll add, yeah, not a big deal. They will cost him his legacy. And his success and his legacy and how history will view him is going to depend on what they’re doing. So I really wish that he would have taken that moment and there was enough good stuff where he could have brought it back and everybody would have been happy, but the message would have been sent. He needed to be strict with them. The tariffs, I thought he could have gone into more because you can’t just say, well, it’s going to be a little rough, but then it won’t be. You give people a little bit more than that. And I think, too, if he’s up there and he’s telling people, look, you know what? We’re going to have tax cuts. Again, I think the order of things should have been tax cuts and then you mess with tariffs. Now it is what it is. He needs to finesse that a little bit. He needs to say, you know, and we got tax cuts on the way. Don’t we, Republicans? Golly, I would have just literally have paid cash money. to have cameras on the faces of some of those representatives to see their reaction good heavens what that’s million dollar video and that was such a missed opportunity it would have been so great if you’d have been like you know and you know the tariffs uh you know it’s going to straighten itself out bear with me follow me in this follow me in this i know what i’m doing We’re going to get it straightened out. But in the meantime, these Republicans, they’re going to make my tax cuts, my 2017 tax cuts permanent to make sure you got the relief that you need. That’s the message that he needed to push last night and he didn’t do it. And that’s it was a great speech. Don’t get me wrong, but I’m telling you guys. It is all kind of it’s all going to come down to the economy, every damn bit of it. 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Out of praising a young man who serves thus far survived pediatric cancer as if the president had something to do with that. This was in the midst of him praising Doge. Doge cuts, among other things, have cut off funding for ongoing research into pediatric cancer. Oh, my gosh.
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I. What is the matter with you?
SPEAKER 19 :
I got to ask, she’s talking about last night, that’s Rachel Maddow. She’s discussing DJ, the 13-year-old. He had brain cancer. He beat brain cancer. They gave him five months to live. And they made him an honorary Secret Service agent. And he was calling on childhood cancer rates. And he was talking about cancer rates. And he made mention of Health and Human Services, Secretary Kennedy. Why is that such a bad thing? And the only person who is claiming that Trump is acting like he cured it himself is Rachel Maddow. I mean, you know, maybe this kid survived that. But is he going to survive you bitches saying this crazy stuff about him? What does it matter with you people? And it wasn’t just her. We’ll talk about Nicole Wallace here coming up. What does it matter with you? Stick with us. Second hour on the way. We’re also going to talk about Doge dividends as well. It’s our friends over at Super Beats, the Super Breen product from the people who make the Super Beats hard chews. And there are other, there are beet brands out there, but the only one that I, that, you know, that I have, know puts the experience and the science and everything else behind it is super beats, which is why I prefer them over everybody else. They have the hard shoes, but they also have this super brain, which is a plant based supplement. And it’s formulated with an ingredient that helps to support your metabolism and also helps to support blood sugar levels. It is nearly three times more effective than your diet and exercise alone. These are real results. It’s super convenient. And they’re clinically researched. It’s used by doctors from the makers of the Super Beats hard shoes. So they have them now at the Sam’s Club. So if you go into Sam’s Club, you can save not only in the Super Beats hard shoes, but you can also save on the Super Boreen from human. You’ll love the way it makes you feel.
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But I think this was a lesson in finding one thing that you let yourself feel. And I let myself feel joy about DJ. And I hope he’s alive for another, you know, 95 years, right? And I hope he lives. the life he wants to live. He wants to be a cop. He knows what he wants to do. And maybe when you have childhood cancer, that crystallizes for you. And I hope he has a long life as a law enforcement officer. But I hope he never has to defend the United States Capitol against Donald Trump’s supporters. And if he does, I hope he isn’t one of the six who loses his life to suicide. And I hope he isn’t one who has to testify against the people who carried out acts of seditious conspiracy and then live to see Donald Trump pardon those people.
SPEAKER 19 :
I can’t believe I can’t imagine anyone that hates Trump so bad that you can’t even you can’t even stand up and acknowledge a cancer survivor, a 13 year old cancer survivor and just be like, that’s great that he got that honor. That’s so nice that he got that. No, that was Nicole Wallace over. Was that CNN or MSNBC? MSNBC. And. I. So she’s saying she doesn’t kill himself. What is the matter with you?
SPEAKER 15 :
The kid with terminal cancer, she hopes he won’t kill himself.
SPEAKER 19 :
Hey, if the media wants to know why no one likes them, I got an example for you. Yeah, we played Rochelle Maddow. We played her. She did the same thing.
SPEAKER 15 :
That dude is bitter.
SPEAKER 19 :
Why can’t you just say that was a nice moment? Why can’t you just… See, this is the difference between… I’m going to toot my own horn. It’s the difference between me and the left cane because I can call balls and strikes and I can be like, this is a nice moment. They can’t do that. And I don’t do it because I’m trying to be nice. I clearly don’t care about that.
SPEAKER 15 :
The only thing you ever get wrong is how I feel about old people.
SPEAKER 19 :
Well, it’s not my fault that you hate them. And you think that they’re all suspicious and potential murderers. It’s not my issue. You’re going to have to talk with the Lord about that one, sir.
SPEAKER 15 :
I shouldn’t have said a damn thing.
SPEAKER 19 :
You had to bring it up, didn’t you? I did. Had to bring it up. You going to say anything about the 13-year-old, the old people? No? No. But why can’t they just go, that was a nice moment? They can’t even say that. They can’t do anything that makes, they don’t want to look like they’re humanizing Trump. Even if that means snubbing this 13-year-old survivor. This is what I’m talking about. They have no, they refuse to be normal. They think that being normal is like admitting that Trump won. That’s the psychology of it. Think about it. How messed up is that? I can’t even acknowledge this 13-year-old survivor because it might give someone the impression that Trump did something nice. I can’t acknowledge that. You clearly have lost when you can’t even do that much. And they have lost. All they had left was any dignity that they may have had, which after last night, I don’t think they do. I… I really don’t have any words. I think that they’re going to have to study the mental breakdown of people. You know, what did 2016 do to you? It broke my brain. They’re going to have to study this. This is wild. And there’s, I mean, we’ve got a lot more of it too. I wanted to switch it up. This is a very interesting story because you guys know I like watching what happens with the commies, right? And we’ve talked with Stephen Yates quite a bit about the Panama Canal. So, you know, way back when the United States helped build the Panama Canal, Panama gets to govern it. You know, that’s the thing. And China has, they took like two of the biggest book-ending ports, Cristobal and Balboa, on either side of the Atlantic and the Pacific. And In order to keep from having to go all the way around South America, you know, you’ve got obviously this waterway in Panama. And it’s a very valuable, excuse me, very valuable waterway. It’s Chokepoint. And China had their big bookending deal. ports through CK Hutchinson Holdings that was a Hong Kong based entity and as you know China took back Hong Kong because the Brits decided for some insane reason to give it up and they took over Hong Kong and there were riots and people getting arrested and it was awful and that’s where that that company is located or at least domiciled out of and I mean they’re under CCP control and It was the first thing, the first agenda, the first trip for Rubio. And I thought that was very interesting that that was his first trip. I wrote about this over at Substack and I sent it out. I think it was out this morning and you can, I highly encourage you to read it. Sent it out this morning and it gets into, because there are other ports, but those are the two biggest ones that are on either side of the canal. And it was announced yesterday that BlackRock has purchased it. They’ve acquired those ports from C.K. Hutchinson. It was a multi-part transaction worth about $22.8 billion, the companies announced yesterday. And in addition to those Panama Canal ports, the deal with C.K. Hutchinson includes 43 additional ports across 23 countries. And I, like I said, I was very curious about this because it was one of Rubio’s very first trips. If you remember, he went, and this was, you know, very beginning of February. He had gone to, end of January, beginning of February. He had already gone to Panama, and he wanted to end the participation of Panama in China’s Belt and Road Initiative. So he went down there to talk to Panama’s president, Jose Molina, and he was saying that Washington would take the necessary measures if Panama doesn’t immediately take steps to end China’s influence and control over the canal. I mean, this was one of his first trips. That to me signals something’s going down. He immediately, he’s in, he’s sworn in, and he’s immediately dispatched to Panama. Interesting, because remember, Panama was flirting around with Belt and Road. They were going to be a part of it. China was flirting around with the Panamanian government. And there were a lot of rumors about what was happening. They said that, for instance, people were saying that China was being more and more aggressive in the waterway. In fact, some described it as more aggressive. Others said it was, quote, out of control. They had granted its power to influence all those Hong Kong companies and told you that. The U.S. envoy was the one who, when he went down there, he went down there like mid-January, I think right before Rubio, right as Rubio was going through the confirmation process. And they had Mauricio Coron, who was the U.S. envoy for Latin America. He went down there. And he had been saying, look, this is this is he was saying that it wasn’t Molino’s fault that China’s presence was, quote, completely out of hand. He said that it was under previous Panamanian governments that allowed China’s presence to get out of control. Now, that’s a very interesting description. What does that mean? The creeping presence, he said, everything throughout the entire canal zone. He said everything from the ports to the logistics to the telecommunications infrastructure. He said it’s not just about the national security of Panama or even the United States. It’s the entire Western Hemisphere. And. their influence has been steadily growing in Latin America. They’ve been, their satellite images showing the construction. They were building all kinds of bridges and everything else in this area. And there were a lot of concerns like, this is really fueling China’s interests. So Rubio was dispatched and unlatched Panama from China’s Belt and Road. Now China was livid, as you can imagine. So then we have this situation with acquiring these two ports. Now, it was $22.8 billion deal. That sounds like, in terms of Washington, D.C. money, it doesn’t sound like a lot, does it? I know it’s crazy to say that. But I’m just, the government cannot come in outright. So it has to be an economic thing. I’m wondering if they did not cut a deal with BlackRock because this is what the point of my post was. So BlackRock was bad, but now it’s good again. And I said, you aren’t the only one confused or concerned or concerned that such a move implies what a move implies regarding existing national security or potential hostilities in the area. I mean, it’s a big optic win for Trump because now you’ve got an American corporation taking control of the Panama Canal from China, those ports. But I still remember all the BlackRock stories. You know, BlackRock says investors should triple their allocations in Chinese assets despite increasing regulatory risks. This came out. This was the Wall Street Journal and Bloomberg piece back in August of 21. Reuters, BlackRock, MSCI draw scrutiny from U.S. House Committee on China. It said that U.S. Congressional Committee on China was investigating asset management giant BlackRock. They were questioning whether or not they were facilitating investments into blacklisted Chinese companies, etc., etc. I mean, you get the general idea. And the Wall Street Journal had a piece out a couple of days ago where they were celebrating. In fact, the headline was, quote, Black Rock’s woke era is over. We’re going to talk to Will Hilde about that later this week because it’s they were they’re being celebrated as having ended all that stuff. But have they? And it’s interesting that it’s just now being announced. You know, literally, this Wall Street Journal piece was from like three days ago, right as the steel is going down. Was it something that was floated out there to make everybody feel better about BlackRock being the one to buy these these ports? And I’m saying that I don’t I don’t have I don’t know. I don’t know the people who run BlackRock. I don’t I’m just questioning everything that’s been reported because you guys remember like a couple of years ago, we were all going wild over BlackRock. Carol Roth wrote a whole book. You will own nothing and be happy. What was one of the big players in her book? BlackRock. All the companies that they invest in, even if they walk away from DEI and Wilkery, what about the companies they invest in and build up? What are their policies? Even if BlackRock walks away from ESG, what are the policies of the companies that they are investing in and building up? That’s like a question that we all have. So I’m wondering, were they the only entity that the U.S. government could use to run China out of the Panama Canal with money? Because this was a priority for the administration right out of the gate. Like Rubio, the ink wouldn’t even dry and he’s down there. And then this deal comes in. You got the Wall Street Journal piece. It’s just all very coincidental. And to me, it suggests a very increased concern for national security and China’s plans for that waterway. Very interesting. Definitely a story you got to keep an eye on. So I don’t know. I mean, it’s I don’t know if there was anybody else. Is it moderately better? I mean, I think anything’s better than the CCP. But there are we got a lot of questions. So that’s definitely something to keep an eye on. We have more on the way and coming up at the bottom of the hour. James Fishback will join us. You guys might remember he’s the guy who was proposing the Doge dividend payments proposal. Curious as to what he thought about the joint address, basically State of the Union last night. Gold, Co. You guys know I love gold and silver. It’s tangible. And during the president’s first term, gold surged 53%, silver 51%. Precious metals could potentially break new records in 2025. 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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It’s time for Dana’s Quick Five.
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Another attack on a Tesla entity, this time charging stations, torched an apparent arson near Boston. It is the latest in a string of fires that are intentionally targeting the EV company run by Musk. And this was, I mean, half a dozen of them, half a dozen of these charging stations. Those things aren’t cheap. And they’re not cheap because all the DEI that you got to do, well, I don’t think that’s in effect anymore, but that you had to do under Biden, remember? Yeah. There was a study that said people believe conspiracy theories out of spite, literally for no other reason. Out of spite. That’s what they’re saying. That’s what they’re saying. A desire to level the playing field at a cost. That’s what’s driving these beliefs. That’s not how it works for me. Yeah, I really don’t. Not me. I’m like, are they leftists? Like, that’s the only thing.
SPEAKER 15 :
It’s simply a lack of full information. That’s literally what it is.
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Nine cases are reporting outbreaks, measles outbreaks, and cases are growing. The latest is in West Texas. The total number of people that had it were 146. They said it’s the first… They had one fatality, a child, last week. It was the first measles fatality in the U.S. since 2015. A lot of discussion about… I think measles and chicken pox obviously are two different things. But… A lot of questions about this. I mean, I don’t have a problem with certain vaccines. I just don’t. Certain ones, I’m like, eh, maybe you can wait. Maybe like the scheduling. Some of them, you know, like with obviously the Rona, I’m like, hi, brand new injection. No thanks. So I don’t know. I’m curious about this. The JFK International Airport is on red alert. Apparently a foreign traveler imported a deadly disease and infected an untold number of people. Horror movies start like this, right? Isn’t this how it works? They said that… It was a child who entered the country on a China Airlines flight and tested positive for a highly it was a for apparently had bad measles. And now they’re thinking it’s a potential outbreak. He went through the terminal, traveled on a shuttle bus to Philly, went to two different clinics and were diagnosed. So they said anybody who was on the shuttle bus, you’re urged to get tested. Basically, anybody they’re like trying to trace who all this kid came into contact with. That’s insane. Good heavens. So I don’t know. I don’t know, people. This is all just I can’t. I can’t. There’s too much coming up. We got James Fish back. He’s the guy who proposed the Doge dividend, the $5,000 check thing. We’re going to talk to him coming up. Stick with us. The folks who help bring you the program. It’s our friends at All Family Pharmacy. This is a great company, a great website. And I love what they provide because All Family Pharmacy has over 200 medications. They’ve got the ivermectin. They have the other thing that I can’t pronounce, Cain. What is it? The Mendazola? That one. They also have the hydroxychloroquine, the antibiotics. Look, I’ve been sick a couple of times. Once over the holidays, I was getting strep throat. Immediately got hooked up at All Family Pharmacy. I know what my symptoms are. You know what strep’s like when you’ve had it a million times. And was able to… bypass like a trip to urgent care and $150 deductible and all this kind of stuff. Oh, yeah. And was able to get my medicine and skip the hassle. And all of the medicines are made in the USA. That’s the one thing you do not have to worry about at all. Family pharmacy, the inputs, they’re not getting the stuff from China or India. This is all USA ingredients. You have the highest standards of quality and safety. And it’s affordable. No insurance, no problem. Straightforward pricing, online ordering. Shipping is just either two to four days or if you’re in a pinch, overnight. So your health is always within reach. Visit allfamilypharmacy.com slash Dana and get 10% off using promo code Dana10. Don’t wait. Protect yourself and your family. That’s allfamilypharmacy.com slash Dana. Coupon code Dana10 to save 10%.
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Welcome back to the program. Dana Lash with you. Bottom of the second hour, and you can listen coast to coast. Of course, we also have the stream on X and Rumble, Channel 347, DirecTV, everywhere. We’ve been going over the joint address. That POTUS gave last night. And I was pretty pleased with it. I wanted a little bit more on the tariffs. I wanted a little bit. I think the American people need to have this explained to them in a 30 second elevator pitch, which if anybody can do it, POTUS could do it. And I really wanted him. And the only thing I didn’t get was I really wanted him to go after those congressional Republicans about implementing these recommended Doge cuts because their recommendations are coming in. And yet I keep seeing like the CR that was recently passed through the House. It’s literally just continuing the current fiscal framework from former President Biden, which was, you know, the heinous spending. It’s just continuing that, kicking it down the road for another fiscal year. So where we need those cuts implemented. And I that was always going to be the the fight was making sure that these congressional Republicans, they love it. They talk about they’re like, oh, we love Doge. They go on Fox all the time. We love Doge. But then when push comes to shove and they’re in there trying to implement these cuts, they cowered out and they run away. There was a really good suggestion a couple of weeks ago in this whole debate about it. Like, you know, when do taxpayers get some relief? James Fishback is the CEO of Azoria and he’s the he’s the CEO and he’s also an advisor, not just to POTUS, but also to Doge. And he came up with the Doge dividend. And I like it not just for the consonants, but. I like the idea of it. I like the idea of taxpayers keeping more of their money. I’ve got some questions about it, though, because we’re all nervous because we’ve had so much spending the last four years. And these Republicans in Congress are making me a little nervous now. James joins us via Skype. James, it’s a pleasure to have you. Thank you so much for joining us. And I appreciate you wanting to claw back money for the taxpayer. I’m all for that. Talk to us about this, because from what did I read it right? Like you had this in a dream, like you came up with this idea. You like woke up. I dream about like, you know, flying seahorses and stuff. And you dream about, you know, money and tax cuts. Tell me about the origin of this.
SPEAKER 20 :
It was, in fact, a dream, Dana. I’m happy to report. I dream about a lot of weird stuff, but economic policy is one of them, having been a macro investor for the past decade. And the proposal, to your point, is called the Doge dividend. It’s quite simple. It’s take 20 percent of whatever President Trump gets. saves with Doge over the next couple of years and send it right back to hardworking taxpayers who sent it to D.C. in the first place. Why would we send it back? Because D.C. misused and abused their harder earned tax dollars. they sent their money to dc dana to support education and infrastructure what we ended up supporting was dei scholarships in myanmar and a iraqi sesame street instead that is called breach of contract and when there’s breach of contract you need to pay restitution the restitution here goes to the taxpayer over the past five years the government has spent about 30 trillion dollars the taxpayer directly through income tax has covered about 20 trillion of that, roughly 70 percent. So when you cover 70 percent of the bill, you’re entitled for a refund. And that’s what this plan represents. Honored that the president supports it. And I met with senators and House members last week in D.C. to help get this over the line. It’s long overdue. And it also helps incentivize Americans, to your point, to put the foot to the fire for congressional Republicans and to say, look, guys, enough is enough. The Biden fiscal framework of the past four years will not work. We’ve got to hold you accountable and we’ve got to have taxpayers end up reporting waste, fraud and abuse that they see. Why would they do that? Because the more that Doge saves, the bigger their Doge dividend check is. And our hope is that these checks would go out next year.
SPEAKER 19 :
Where the concern that I that I hear from some friends like Carol Roth is a very good friend of mine. You know, I don’t want to say we’re tight. She still kind of is an investment. But she says she I mean, everyone loves the concept of the idea. I think what the concern that some folks have is that it could maybe perhaps further inflame inflation. And I think people are nervous because We have, like I said earlier, you know, we have these recommended cuts, but so far Congress isn’t doing anything to actually to implement any of this, which makes everybody nervous because then they go, OK, well, where’s the what is the money then? Where’s it coming from? Is it because it’s all borrowed? So where is it coming from?
SPEAKER 20 :
Yeah, it’s a good question. Now, I was one of the few macro investors in 2021 railing against the Biden administration for printing all that money and for the Fed keeping rates at zero. So I recognize the risk from inflation back then. And I got to tell you, this time is very different. Let’s see why. The first is look at the macro backdrop, Dana. When the last time we sent out large checks like this, what was happening? There was a labor shortage. There were supply chain dislocations, the pandemic, the labor lockdowns, the shutdowns of schools and small businesses. So you artificially constrained supply at the very time that you were fueling demand. Let’s not forget, though, Dana, stimulus checks were just about 13% of the $6 trillion that was printed by Joe Biden during COVID. The rest of the money went to federal unemployment benefits. went to PPP loans, went to all sorts of fiscal boondoggles up and down the economy. And so oftentimes we place the blame on stimulus checks. But again, when they’re just 13% of the $6 trillion of fiscal stimulus, it’s hard to put the blame just on them. Now look at the macro backdrop today. Energy prices are coming down. We’re reining in spending. We’re deregulating the economy. It couldn’t be more different today versus what we saw under Biden in 2021. And then for folks who were concerned about sending out checks to a large number of Americans, We don’t just do this during COVID, Dana. We do this every single year. We send out tax refund checks to folks who paid a little bit more than their withholding would have suggested because of deductions. And just last year, for example, we sent out 100 million households a check that was on average $3,100. Most Americans, what do they do with that tax refund check? They use it to pay down debt. And the act of paying down debt is not inflationary. It’s actually deflationary. Look, Most Americans actually took out debt during the Biden years to keep up with inflation. It’s not just the national debt that’s gone up. It’s American household debt that’s gone up. And so, Dana, when we’re able to give Americans a refund, they can pay down some of the debt that Joe Biden and Kamala Harris forced. forced them to take on by shooting inflation up to 40-year highs. And so across the board, whether it’s the macro backdrop, the supply picture, or the fact that we regularly do this and most Americans use these savings, use these refunds to pay down debt, I’m just not concerned about the inflationary picture today as I normally would. I trust Americans to do right with these checks. And I’ll tell you, most taxpayers remember this check does not go to every Tom, Dick and Harry. It goes to taxpayers and taxpayers are a responsible bunch. They don’t buy crab legs and go to the Gucci store. They use this to reorganize their finances and to pay down debt. That’s what the data suggests. And again, the macro backdrop is disinflationary today. Whereas under Joe Biden’s leadership, it was massively inflationary.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah, we’re talking about the Doge dividend for those who are tuning into the program. James Fishback is joining us, CEO of Azoria, because we had obviously the joint address last night. And I always find it, especially when it comes to – I believe the income tax should be abolished. The IRS should be abolished. I believe in a consumption tax, limited government spending, take everything back to Article I, Section 8. We would have such a – we would be so far out of the red. We’d be so deep into the black if we actually were – I know it’s like a fairy tale because you’re asking the government to be responsible. And a lot of people, they think, you know, when you look at a tax refund, I mean, you’re giving an interest free loan to the government. That’s essentially what it is. And I don’t think a lot of people understand that. I mean, that’s what do you what do you what is your thought on that? Because that’s how I’ve always viewed. I mean, it’s your money. You’re letting the government have it. You don’t get anything extra out of it. And I always question, like, am I looking at this wrong? Like, how do you how do you view that issue?
SPEAKER 20 :
I view it exactly the way you did. It’s a tax-free loan. And by the way, when you give the government money and they don’t hold up their end of the bargain, which is to say they don’t spend that money, Dana, taking care of our vets, taking care of our roads and bridges, taking care of schools, whether they’re in East Baltimore or East Palestine, then guess what? We’ve got a problem. And so when you look at it over the past – five years, it turns out the taxpayer overpaid their taxes because that money was sent to Baghdad for Sesame Street and to Colombia for a transgender opera. And so when you overpay for something, Dana, whether it’s at Costco or Walmart, you’re allowed to come back and get a refund. You’re entitled to restitution. It’s no different for the government. So much of the government’s problems, Dana, and you talk about it on your show all the time. I’ve been following you for a very long time. is so much of the government’s issues stem from them not wanting to be held to the same standards as a household or a private business. If a private business wrongs you, whether it’s a landscaper or whether it’s a catering company and they don’t deliver, you get a refund. When the government wrongs you and spends your tax money and abuses it on all sorts of woke nonsense in foreign countries, you deserve a refund. And look, President Trump is a transformative president for many reasons, but one of them is that he doesn’t hold government to a different standard than we would hold our own households or our own local businesses. That’s why he won this historic mandate. The fact that he supports this Honestly, it’s really humbling and honoring. But I got to tell you, Dana, he gets the credit for this. He built Doge. He’s creating the framework for which these savings are even happening. And so I think it sends more than anything. People want to try to crunch the numbers. I’m always welcome to do that as a trader and investor. But I got to tell you, the immeasurable dynamic here is what symbol it sends. to Toby and Edith in West Virginia, who pay over their lifetime on average, let’s call it $270,000 of federal income tax. And for the first time, the same government that for the past four years has called them racist and xenophobic and targeted them for the way that they pray and the beliefs that they hold, sends them a check and says, effectively, you overpaid. We are sorry. And let us restore the social contract between the taxpayer and his government. That is a perfect way to celebrate 250 years of our country. Our founding fathers would want it no other way. When the government wrongs you, just as when a private business wrongs you, you are due for restitution. And more than anything, that’s what the Doge dividend calls for.
SPEAKER 19 :
Isn’t I mean, isn’t the overpaying part of it? That’s all done on credit as well, isn’t it? I mean, because we’re dealing with borrowed money.
SPEAKER 20 :
It is. That’s right. And by the way, the federal government forced us to borrow money in our name to fund this. Remember, we are the ultimate holders of the U.S. debt. Chuck Schumer doesn’t get a debt call. Our grandkids, our children are on the hook for that. And so they forced us into debt to send $20 million to Iraq for Sesame Street, to send $40 billion to USAID for all sorts of Marxist nonsense. They put that on us, and we are saying enough is enough. We want a refund. Remember, of the $30 trillion in government spending, Dana, over the past five years, $20 trillion of it, 70%, was directly funded by the taxpayer. Not even borrowed, but directly funded through taxpayers. And so when you fund that stuff and you overpay and you misuse and abuse, you’ve got to tell the taxpayer, I’m sorry. And what better way to apologize? What more genuine apology than one that says, here is restitution. Here is a check. Right. And look, the $5,000 check number is based off of the assumption that we hit $2 trillion in savings. That’s not preordained or predestined. If it’s only $1 trillion, then the check goes to $2,500. If it’s only $500 billion, that’s awfully low by our estimates at Azoria, then it’s $1,250. I got to tell you, you and I as taxpayers, Dana – We don’t necessarily, I say this with humility for you and me, we don’t necessarily need $1,250. It’d be nice. I think probably you and I would donate that to charities of our choice that support our values locally. But it’s really about the symbolism of the government after all of these years of defrauding us saying, we are sorry. Here is a small portion of your money back. I got to tell you, that’s going to increase trust in the federal government. And that is a precondition for really supercharging the golden age under President Trump’s leadership.
SPEAKER 19 :
Last question for you, talking with James Fishback, CEO of Azoria. I don’t know that we’ve ever had a discussion about all of the different ways that we can lower our, our debt, lower our tax burden. And it’s really refreshing because I, I don’t remember us ever having a conversation like this and people in DC actually taking it seriously for a really long time. Like, no, like I, you know, not to slam other Republicans, but I don’t think Doge would have been something that they would have been interested in entertaining as an idea. Even, you know, eight years ago, 10 years ago, uh, before Trump, um, With this, this is why I get so frustrated because these cuts that are being recommended, I don’t even care if it’s $2 billion. I don’t care if it’s $200 billion. At this point, it’s like every bit matters. We’re on the edge of this knife economically. You know this. You talk about this. How realistic and how frustrating is it knowing that all of these taxpayers and the coalition on the right is all these people that came over to vote to make November happen. This was one of the things that motivated them. And there are lawmakers that are dragging their feet. And I know that Musk had said $2 trillion is ideal. It might be really tough to get to that. And I really hope that we do. But what about pressuring some of these lawmakers to get going on this? Because now we have the tariff battle, which makes more sense when you put it in the context of, well, we also have tax cuts on the way and we also have all of these other doge cuts and we’re going to be decreasing spending. So it’s kind of a tradeoff in terms of an economic hardship, which I wish was messaged a little bit more last night. But how do you deal with the problem of those people in Congress? Because ultimately, it’s all got to go through them.
SPEAKER 20 :
You’re speaking hard truths, which are hard for a lot of members of Congress, including in our party, to accept. The truth is, Dana, they have been part of the problem. Article one didn’t just give them the power of the purse. It also gave them the power to cut back on that spending. Doge should not even have to exist. Congress should have been applying oversight to USAID for all of this crap that they wasted our hard-earned money on. And so it’s kind of cute how they’re running around and doge this and doge that. But as you pointed out, that CR was just the Biden status quo continued. That’s why we need bold executive action from President Trump and from Elon to continue doing this work, because I got to tell you the truth. I don’t trust a lot of these members of Congress to actually do this work because it wasn’t until Trump and Elon and Doge came around that they really had nothing to apply, no cuts to speak of. Remember, a lot of this USAID stuff was directly authorized. by Congress under Article 1. It’s time for them to look in the mirror and take responsibility. That might be hard to swallow. That’s not a popular thing for me to say in my meetings in the Senate and House as I was last week. I don’t get a lot of friends for saying that, but it’s just the truth. And Americans, wherever they are, need to accept that. If you’re a member of Congress, where were they over the last five years when we were sending all this crap to Iraq or to Colombia or to Myanmar? It’s time to speak up. And Doge is doing that.
SPEAKER 19 :
There you go. James Fishback, would love to have you back. I would always love to talk about this, especially. I feel like we’re going to be fighting it out a little bit with House members. So a pleasure and appreciate your words. Thank you so much for joining me.
SPEAKER 20 :
Thank you.
SPEAKER 19 :
Of course.
SPEAKER 20 :
Thank you, Dana. My pleasure.
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SPEAKER 19 :
One of the things that I liked about watching the State of the Union, because normally I, you know, unless I do because it’s my job, but, and, you know, if I think that they’re gonna, I watch for particular issues, but I noticed, did you watch Vance and Johnson behind him? It was like watching two brothers in the backseat of a car. Wasn’t it? Like Johnson is the smarmy one. And Vance was the guy who’s like, is there a fight? Yeah, it’s a fight. Yeah. Like that guy. I got that total vibe from them. Welcome back. Top of this third hour. That was how Trump started his address last night. The media is losing their minds. You guys want to hear more? Yeah, you do. So we’ve got… Let’s see. Where do we start? Do we start with, let’s see, Democrats? Do we start with booty juice? Do we start? Actually, let’s talk with the DNC chair. And all yesterday, they were all apoplectic all day yesterday. The DNC chair does not like Mr. Musk.
SPEAKER 12 :
What would be your message to Elon Musk and his teenage doge dudes who are currently firing career civil servants? Well, go to hell. I mean, the reality is what you’re doing is destroying our country right now. That’s what he just told voters.
SPEAKER 19 :
He just told the voters to go to hell. Go to hell. Career civil servants. That phrase makes me want to vomit. I just react viscerally to hearing that phrase. And look, Keep in mind, and I really shouldn’t have to say this, I need people to not be sensitive. I’ll get the email from people who are like, well, I worked in a government job or whatever. I agree with you. I follow your show. It’s still a little hard to take. I appreciate that. I get that. I really feel like a lot of the ire isn’t aimed at those folks. You know what I mean? I feel like the people that deserve the ire are the ones who go, well, I don’t have to tell you what I do in a week. Well, you’re not telling them. You’re telling us the taxpayer. And by God, I got every mandate. I own you as much as I pay in tax. I could buy and sell you. So do not give me that. I will physically come to your house. And if I have to force your fingers to type out what you did in a week. Oh my gosh. The one thing that will make me absolutely unhinged is for anybody in any publicly funded position to tell me or you that we don’t have the right to know what they do. By God, I pay mid six figures in taxes. You don’t get to tell me that. And if you feel like you do, I’m going to send you an invoice and you can refund me what I am owed since I am not getting the return on my investment, which is your authority comes from us. Without us, you ain’t got nothing. And I don’t feel at all bad about saying it because that’s the reality. That’s how it should be said. Oh, it’s still bad. Oh, they lost their minds. And then you had, do I want to play Stephen Colbert? I really don’t feel like it. Do I really want to? I mean, he’s so insufferable. He’s still on air. He’s on at night. What is he on? I don’t even know. Isn’t that like what 110-year-old people watch? They watch Stephen Colbert? Yeah. The Social Security members? Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, the people who, what’s his face? Willard? Who’s the guy who’s on the Today Show and he would tell everybody the Smuckers Jam?
SPEAKER 15 :
It’s their birthday and Smuckers. That was Willard Scott.
SPEAKER 19 :
Willard Scott. Yeah, it’s the Willard Scott Club. Those are the people that still watch. No offense. They watch the Colbert. They watch him. He was talking about their little the little paddles. Audio somebody 26. Go ahead. Those little auctioneer auction paddles. That’s what they were. I thought it was pickleball. Can I just tell you real quick? I’m sorry. I have never even seen a pickleball instrument. I don’t even know what pickleball looks like. It’s probably a ball that looks like a pickle. I don’t even know. And I don’t know, is it ping pong? Whatever. I was trying to ask my husband last night. I was like, what are those little, I was like, what are those little skibbity bop rock paddles that they got there? What is that? What are they? The little paddles that they were holding up. I don’t know. Anyway, 26.
SPEAKER 09 :
The man barked out one appalling claim after another, but don’t you worry. The Democrats came ready to fight back with their little paddles, okay? That is how you save democracy, by quietly dissenting. Bidding on an antique tea set. It was hard to tell what was going on. I’m just kidding. That was very cool, Democrats. In fact, I made my own sign.
SPEAKER 19 :
I’m not I still don’t think he’s funny because he comes off as I mean that it wasn’t that what he was saying wasn’t funny. It’s just his delivery. He’s so full of spite. And you can tell that whenever he tries to deliver something. I thought the paddles were stupid. By the way, when were they supposed… Everybody, like most of… One lady was feigning herself with it. What… At what point were they supposed… Like, false said one, Musk lies. But then I saw several… Who got what paddle? Do you get two paddles? Was it bothersome for them that they could only basically have two messages? Because you only had two sides? You know, I don’t know. What was it? Rashida Tlaib became a meme because she just brought a whiteboard. Why are you that dumb? Why would you do that? Why, dear heavens, would you just bring a whiteboard and hold up a whiteboard… You’re inviting a whole entire Reddit army to meme you. Oh, and they did. They’re glorious. They’re absolutely glorious. But they, I will, I really do believe that they just don’t know how to react. They, and I’ll play it. Because every now and then he has to say the obvious thing. See, there it is right there. Golly, with that. Oh, got a little picnic blanket. Audio soundbite 24. I do think that there’s some truth in this. Listen.
SPEAKER 23 :
uh… it is i have to say you can really sense john king you can really sense republicans with a pep in their step and democrats rather demoralized i mean understandably so given the fact that republicans control the house the senate and the white house not to mention a conservative uh… lean on on the u s supreme court but beyond that um… Even when Republicans are out of power, you sense like an energy quite often when Democrats are controlling things. The Democrats, not to be cliche about it, but they are in disarray. They do not know how to… They don’t know how to be an opposition party.
SPEAKER 19 :
I don’t feel like hanging on for the 5,000 walk-in seconds, Christopher walk-in seconds it takes for him to say this. They do not know how to be an opposition party. They do not know how to do graceful, smart opposition because they’ve had a billy club this whole time. They have no idea. They’ve got to relearn that. And they just they are a mess. Everyone sitting here talking about the fragility of the coalition on the right, which I acknowledge. And I’ve been one of the first to talk about it. I get that. But no one’s talking about whatever goopy mess the left is right now. What is happening with these people? Nobody knows. They’re they’re a mess. They’re not they can’t even be on the same page with their little. Little paddles. They can’t even be on that same page. Audio Sun by 21. This was a hot mic moment. And I thought I was hysterical because Johnson noticed it after he said it. He just kind of moved the mic away. We’ll try to be real subtle with it. Watch this.
SPEAKER 10 :
By the way, I think the speech is going to be great. But I don’t know how you do this. The hardest thing was doing it during Biden. When the speech was a stupid campaign.
SPEAKER 19 :
Look at him. He saw that mic and he’s like, get that down. I didn’t think what they said was bad. It was right. But I like what he said. It was when it was Biden. It was a stupid campaign speech. I will say, too, one of the other things that when Trump walked in last night. So there were a couple of things. The I wrote about this. If you again, if you’re at Substack, if you get my Substack, I wrote about this last night. Talking about the lack of decorum from Democrats last night. The there were two instances where I guess they just decided to just say to hell with the norm. The actually it’s not what it’s it’s one thing to heckle. I don’t really even like the heckling. But you can talk all you want to about Marjorie Taylor Greene. She never stood up and waved a cane and refused to sit down and was shouting down entire sentences of the president. You can say what you want, but she never did that. I don’t care what you think about her. She didn’t do it. Al Greene did it. That wasn’t even how it started, though. According to CNN and Manu Raju wrote about this and I cited it in the newsletter, Democrats boycotted a longstanding tradition. So Democrats in the House and Senate, usually they join what is known as the escort committee to walk with the president into the chamber and through like, you know, they escort the president inside. There wasn’t a single Democrat that joined the escort committee. You have had Republicans that have previously joined the escort committee for Democrat presidents. Not a single Democrat wanted to do it for Trump last night. And CNN pointed, quote, knew in a sign of protest, House and Senate Dem leaders didn’t leave to join the escort committee despite being called to do so. And the escort committee typically escorts the president in. A spokesperson for Hakeem Jeffries told me, quote, it speaks for itself. So their insolence didn’t start during the address. It started way before when you couldn’t see, when the cameras weren’t rolling. And there were others who were escorted out even after Al Green. That is just shameful. Their respect for the office is predicated upon whether or not they control it. Just like their respect for the powers of SCOTUS. dependent upon whether or not they’ve got one of their people in to be able to make the calls for nominations but this was such a bad look I’ve never seen it have you came have you ever seen the speaker have to call for the sergeant arms no I haven’t seen it not like that especially What do you think? If I was a sergeant at arms, I’d be like, I’ve been waiting for this, because you don’t do anything.
SPEAKER 15 :
Because there’s two levels. Actually, three levels, technically. Number one is like, hey, settle it down, and then hopefully they comply. If they don’t, then the speaker’s like, sergeant at arms, let’s get them settled down. And then the third level is if they still don’t want to settle down, is kicking them out of the chamber. So they actually have many chances leading up to that whole getting kicked out thing. But it was clear that Al Green wanted to be kicked out.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yep. Jennifer Hemingway is the current sergeant at arms. And so, yeah, they got to score. You got to score people out. You got to get people out of there if they’re not if they’re not going to behave themselves. But I mean, because they can carry a firearm and all that. I’d be like, I’ve been waiting all my life for this because normally, you know, they’re the person who opens the door. You know, it’s Mr. President of the United States. So we got a lot to hit, a lot still to hit. And then coming up towards like going through all of my millions of tabs coming up, we’re going to talk with Grover Norquist specifically about the tariffs and the taxes, etc. What what he’s hoping to see from the new admin, what he thought of the address last night. We’re going to discuss some of the tariff stuff as well. And he’ll be good insight on that for you. I’ve seen the amazing changes Relief Factor has made for so many people, and I’ve seen it firsthand through my husband Chris’s pain relief from using Relief Factor. Right now, it’s easy to give their product a try because Relief Factor makes it pain-free with their three-week quick start for just $19.95. Get rid of pain and start living better. Relief Factor is a 100% drug-free daily supplement that helps your body fight pain naturally. Developed by doctors, it works by supporting your body’s response to inflammation. It doesn’t just mask pain for a short time. It helps reduce or even eliminate it. It’s safe to take daily, and in fact, the longer you take Relief Factor, the more effective. Whether it’s neck, back, joint, or muscle pain, Relief Factor can help. Over 1 million people have turned to Relief Factor. Give Relief Factor a try. With their pain-free trial, you can get a 3-week quick start for only $19.95, less than $1 a day. Call 1-800-4-RELIEF. That’s 1-800-4-RELIEF. With their pain-free trial, you can get a three-week quick start for only $19.95. Call 1-800-4-RELIEF or visit relieffactor.com.
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SPEAKER 19 :
An undercover cop dressed up as a Power Ranger to stop a thief. I choose you. Wait, no, that’s Pokemon. Sorry, wrong PO. Let’s see. I don’t know. There were half a dozen officers, so it looks like it was in Carnival. But they laid out a bunch of culprit. They laid out the culprit. He was stealing phones and wallets from people at Carnival. And Sao Paulo, they published footage of the arrest. Yeah, they were dressed up as Power Rangers. That’s actually really good. I’m not going to lie. Because then you don’t know. Like, you dress somebody up as a Power Ranger, you know, is that a space gun? I don’t know anything about Power Rangers. No, it’s a real one that looks like a space gun. But then people, they’re not going to be like, that’s a cop. They’re just going to be like, Power Ranger, he’s a reveler. Okay. Nope, he can totally arrest you and take you down to the ground. That had to be really confusing for the culprit. Like, you have a bunch of dudes dressed up as Power Rangers. They’re adult onesies, essentially. They’re not flattering. And he’s arrested by all of this. I bet it was confusing at first. Let’s see. A painting that says thou shalt not steal was stolen from a church in the UK. I’m not surprised. It’s the Lord’s Prayer and it talks about not stealing. And it had one, it had several religious paintings, including one that was the Lord’s Prayer. But then they had another inscription that said thou shalt not steal. Totally stolen from St. Andrew’s Church in Little Steepling in Spilsby. You know exactly where that is, don’t you? In Lincolnshire. You know where that is exactly, Kane, don’t you? Of course. No signs of forced entry, everyone. Let’s see this. Let’s see. Ooh. A teen becomes the first in Utah to earn a collegiate cornhole scholarship. I could totally do this. Battling illness. He’s got an illness. Utah teen, 18-year-old Luke Herbert is the first to earn a collegiate cornhole scholarship. He’s a collegiate cornholer and a Bonneville High grad. Moved to South Carolina. Plays cornhole. You can get a scholarship doing that? What about skeeball? Throwing objects into holes is kind of a skill I have. Whether it’s ski ball, probably grenades. No, because you’ve got to hit it with a stick. Now, if I can walk on a golf course and just throw it, I’m sure I’m golden. And I only have one way of throwing. It’s going to drive a hole through your head. I only have one thing on that. All right, Grover Norquist is coming up. Now I want a cornhole scholarship. It’s our friends over at Patriot Mobile, the only Christian conservative cell phone service in the country. Patriot Mobile wants to save you money. They have a U.S.-based customer service team, so you’re helping to create and maintain U.S.-based jobs. They’re not spending the money that you pay for your cell phone bill to work against you. It’s nationwide coverage. You can trust all three major networks. You’re connected wherever you go. and you’re actively supporting the things in which you believe. And you can keep your current number. You can keep your phone. You can upgrade. I mean, the choice is entirely up to you. It’s never been easier to switch. Visit patriotmobile.com slash Dana or call 972-PATRIOT and get a free month of service when you use promo code Dana. Switch today. That’s patriotmobile.com slash Dana at 972-PATRIOT.
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SPEAKER 19 :
Welcome back to the program, Dana, last year with you. We are at the bottom of this third hour. You can watch on the simulcast, Channel 347, DirecTV, Rumble X, and you can listen to us terrestrially, markets in every state all over the country. Joining us now, my friend, Grover Norquist, president of Americans for Tax Reform, ATR.org, and his latest book, Leave Us Alone. I love this. I want that as my epitaph. Leave me alone. Getting the government’s hand off our money, our guns, and our lives. And he joins us now via Skype. I always enjoy seeing your office, Grover, because you have the office of somebody who I know you actually read everything in there. We’re working on it. I love it. I wanted to get your before we dive into all this stuff. I kind of wanted to get your thoughts just real quick on the address last night. What did you do? You think that the president did what he needed to do to maybe sell people on his strategy as it relates to tariffs and the Doge cuts? I felt like he needed to do a little bit more there.
SPEAKER 01 :
Well, I think he did a very good job and he really challenged the Democrats and said, if you guys vote against making my tax cuts permanent, do you understand what you’re doing? OK, you are raising taxes on the middle income family of four by eighteen hundred dollars. Yeah. That’s what you’re doing. It’s a 22% tax increase for average Americans. It’s a huge tax increase. You’re threatening to raise taxes on almost every American. And for seven years, you lied and said my tax cut was only for rich people. That was nonsense. Let’s look at reality. We doubled the per child tax credit, doubled the standard deduction. All of these things make life easier for Americans and less expensive.
SPEAKER 19 :
And I want we all definitely want to see more of that. We need savings. We have been, as you know, I mean, ATR, we’ve been overburdened for so long. The the issue of tariffs, I I was a little I don’t want to say confused. I had questions about the order in which they were rolling this out, because I know that it’s going to be a fight. to go through congress and have the 2017 tax cuts made permanent or get any other kind of any kind of cut at all whatsoever whether it’s tax cuts or anything that doge recommends having that made permanent uh but it seems like that i feel like that needed to be done before implementing tariffs what is your opinion on all this
SPEAKER 01 :
We need to make sure that Americans know that the tax reduction they got under the president will continue permanently. And he made the comment, starting beginning of January, this year, okay, we’re not gonna wait, if this gets held up for a few months or longer, the tax cut is gonna be made permanent back to January. People, businessmen looking to invest, decide how many people to hire, build and buy a new truck. You have to know what the tax rate is going to be, what expense is going to be, all those things. And he told America this is coming. And he said to all the Republicans, I know you’re all with me on making this permanent. Those other guys over there, the Democrats, not so much. They’re going to try to raise everyone’s taxes. But he really locked in the Republicans as well and said, we’re all voting together to make present law permanent. We don’t have to pay for it. ever again. It is a huge What a helpful thing to go to the American economy, to businessmen and women and say, you have certainty for the next 50 years.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah. And that’s I mean, gosh, to have that that certainty for that. I mean, that would that would be such a boon. We haven’t had that in years. We’re talking with our friend Grover Norquist. You can also find him on X. He mentioned cryptocurrency. Your thoughts on. The cap gains tax cryptocurrency. I felt like he hit some really good issues that are I really feel like this term is his economic term, like the the first the second half of his original first term was like the judicial reform. This is all it seems like economic reform. What what did you what was your favorite thing that he laid out that you thought was the most realistic? That’s something that we can get done right away. We can feel that relief. What is your take?
SPEAKER 01 :
Well, making the tax cuts permanent, but adding to that, he’s talked in the past about going to a 15% corporate rate lower than the 21 we have. That would make us more competitive with China. Taking the number of regulations down dramatically, it’s several trillions of dollars in regulatory burdens. If you dropped it by a trillion dollars, That would make us more competitive with China, with Europe, with the whole world. I actually prefer reducing the regulatory burdens on Americans than putting tariffs on other people. It gives us the same advantage, but other people can’t react to that. They can’t punish us for ending regulations which are inflicting pain on the American people, raising the cost of our energy. uh working very much on drill baby drill and on super abundance of energy production that’ll keep prices down that’ll make american goods and services more competitive uh in the world very very powerful uh message there and he said to the world we’re growing come join us we’re growing
SPEAKER 19 :
I noticed you mentioned, you know, how that reducing those those regulatory burdens would do so much more than the tariffs. I just saw this thing literally just moments ago. Kentucky Distillers Association. They said hardworking Americans are going to suffer. They said it. They called them a trifecta of inflation. That’s what Bashir. He’s a Democrat. I’m kind of a moderate Democrat, a Democrat nonetheless. But, you know, the Kentucky distillers, they’re kind of they’re flinching a little bit at this. And I know that there’s some other industries that are as well. Is that the right move to do? What impact realistically? And I know that you can give a realistic one. I feel like everybody else is an operative. What actual impact are we going to have from that?
SPEAKER 01 :
Okay. When Trump puts tariffs on steel and aluminum in the past, China’s reaction was not tariffs. It was to stop buying soybeans from the United States. And instead, they bought it from Brazil. And our farmers are still… damaged by that. We actually had to take some of the money we raised in tariff money and give it in welfare to farm community, which was damaged by China deciding to buy elsewhere. So the first group damaged in a trade war with China are American farmers. when he had a trade war with europe and there was some back and forth on tariffs there the european reaction was to go after american brand companies like american bourbon and to raise tariffs on that so that’s what damn and then of course once people stop drinking your bourbon for a while and develop a different taste it they don’t come back just because the tariffs have moved again so the europeans wisely, ingeniously, evilly, picked a lot of our best products and said, we’re going to drive you off the shelves. So that’s why I am concerned about reaction to tariffs and where cutting the American taxes gets you more competition and getting rid of regulations much easier than tariff wars without the costs.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah. Yeah. We’re talking with our friend Grover Norquist. And that’s that was kind of my concern. That was my fear is that and I know that it can be the idea of using tariffs. I know it can be a tool for leverage. But then when it goes beyond that, when you’re but when you’re when you’re continuously playing chicken with different world leaders, then it becomes kind of a more long lasting problem. And I think that’s what everybody nobody knows. Nobody knows. I mean, it’s kind of a bluff at all this point with how far this is going to go, isn’t it?
SPEAKER 01 :
Well, you could go through life threatening people with nuclear weapons every day. But the one day when they said, OK, we don’t care. Now, what do you do?
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah, exactly. Exactly. The the we talked about the 15 percent. That was the corporate business tax. This some of the. I wanted to touch on some of these cuts because I hear so many different things from so many different economists and so many different financial advisors that the cuts that I think what is it came? We were saying it was out of the two trillion. It was like maybe two percent of what the total five percent of I think the goal was to cut two trillion dollars. What’s been recommended so far is five percent. You’ve been through this battle for years in D.C. How realistically how realistic is this? Are congressional Republicans, are they actually going to approach this austerity with the swiftness that it needs to be approached with? Because we’ve got midterms coming up and these people that are on the fence now are going to be on the other side of it by the time they got to start filing and running for reelection or declaring candidacies.
SPEAKER 01 :
uh we need to make it clear that we’re reducing spending uh every year 200 000 federal employees retire they tend to be older uh and so that’s ten percent of the workforce you can over the next couple of years dramatically not reduce the number of federal employees and if you decide to restructure so you don’t ever hire them back again these are these are savings of hundreds of billions of dollars out into the future. So keep an eye not on this year’s savings, but when you don’t hire somebody, that is a lifetime of pay, pensions, benefits that you’re not paying out for each one employee and we can be and should be dropping 100 200 000 federal employees uh the former comptroller of the pentagon dove zachheim said you could drop 200 000 civilian employees at the pentagon from 700 000 down to 500 000 and you wouldn’t notice it in terms of work getting done 200,000 guys getting paid more than 100,000 a year each is a great deal of money, and that is every decade going out into the future. So that’s huge. Block-granting welfare programs but having them grow only with inflation is huge savings. When we look to do that in Trump’s first term, it was going to be a trillion-dollar savings over a decade, trillion dollars every decade out. That’s the one where, if you remember John McCain, promised to be a yes vote and voted no. Had he been a yes vote, it’s a trillion dollars every decade that would have been gone. So you want to change entitlements just a little bit, but over time, that really adds up to a great deal of money.
SPEAKER 19 :
It does add up to a great deal of money and a great deal of money can be cut. I know you were saying that selling the federal buildings, that’s 40 percent of the square footage of the D.C. area, swamp buildings. You’re talking about moving agencies out of D.C., relocating them in various states. That seems like a that seems like a reasonable idea. I’m actually shocked at how much brick and mortar space is isn’t used. And yet we’re still we’re all funding it still.
SPEAKER 01 :
They were often empty, not at full capacity before COVID. Since COVID, they’ve gone to where they really are empty buildings in Washington, DC. And having a building full of people in DC for parking and for lighting and for security and for the building itself, is a very expensive proposition. Move it 20 miles out of DC, and the prices come way down. Move it 200 miles out, and they come down a great deal more. Plus, you won’t have the kind of groupthink if these departments are out scattered in other states and not all in the DC area. You don’t have the groupthink that people here all have.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah, that’s a very good point. That’s a very good point. Grover Norquist, the book, Leave Us Alone, Getting the Government’s Hands Off Our Money, Our Guns, and Our Lives. You can find them at atr.org as well. Always a pleasure. I always look forward to your ingenious ideas to save us all money. Appreciate you.
SPEAKER 01 :
Dana, thanks so much.
SPEAKER 19 :
Good to see you. Good to see you too.
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SPEAKER 13 :
We’re going to choose to not go on vacation in Florida or Old Orchard Beach or wherever. We’re going to choose to try to buy Canadian products and forego bourbon and other classic American products. And yeah, we’re probably going to keep booing the American anthem.
SPEAKER 19 :
Oh, shut up, you turd. Why would you do that? What does that do? Like, I disagree with Canada’s government on stuff, but, you know, the people, we’re still buddies. Like, you know, like that Pierre Poli there? I could watch him eat apples and just basically give a metaphorical middle finger to media all day long. I mean, we’re all friends still.
SPEAKER 15 :
But is booing our national anthem going to change the tariff idea? No, no.
SPEAKER 19 :
I mean, if you’re trying to make us dislike you, well, I already dislike him. You know, that’s one way to do it. Welcome back to the program. I wanted to play real quick two things. I’m going to try to get all this in. First, Cain, give me number 16 real fast. Okay. Yeah, the bad… He should not be named this, Al Green.
SPEAKER 12 :
What a horrible… Was that a planned moment? Did you know you were going to do that?
SPEAKER 03 :
So Al Green says that he got triggered when Trump said that he had a mandate.
SPEAKER 19 :
First off, how are you named Al Green and you don’t sing? How are you named? My first concert, now this hits me a little personally. My first concert that I ever went to was Al Green at the fabulous Fox Theater in downtown St. Louis. I actually know Al Green’s music. I don’t ask. It’s a very odd childhood. But I was shocked because I was like, he’s a preacher and people throw their panties at him. Anyway, he’s a great performer. You can’t be named Al Green. Stop using that name. And then last but not least, this was the best quote of the night. Audio Somebody 34.
SPEAKER 04 :
We’ll soon be joining the Chord Kid out.
SPEAKER 19 :
We just need this one line. Get to the line, get to the line. One at a time, get to the line. I sounded like Trump this time. Get to the line. Yeah, where he said, our message to every child in America is you are perfect exactly the way God made you. Audio Sun by 34. That… was his best line because he affirmed no one’s affirming kids for who they are. Society wants only for them to be affirmed for what society wants them to be. That was one of the most powerful moments of the night. All right, today in Stupidity Camp.
SPEAKER 15 :
All right, it is Maxine Waters. And Juan, I put this in Slack. If you don’t have it, it’s no big deal. I can play it from here. But it’s Maxine Waters. She thinks, and by the way… Haven’t Republicans been called election deniers since the day one? Listen to what she says here. Go ahead and play.
SPEAKER 03 :
Turned it over to him. And we don’t know everything that Elon Musk has done with his high technology ass. We don’t know what he’s been accused of by some, as it may relate to the election. But we’re not going to give up in investigating.
SPEAKER 15 :
So now she thinks Elon somehow hacked our last election?
SPEAKER 19 :
But, you know, these are the same Democrats that said in 2000 that Bush stole the election. In 2004, Ohio election, that was stolen. Oh, but in 2008 and 2012, it was totally secure. It was totally secure in 2020. Totally secure. These people are clowns. Folks, make sure you go sign up at Substack. Lots of good stuff that comes out there on the reg. Chapter and verse. Find us over at YouTube, Facebook. Like and subscribe. I will. I’m scheduled for Ingram tonight. Watch Facebook. It’ll be up there. Have a great night. Back with you tomorrow.
