Tune into this episode of A Guy’s Perspective where we dive deep into the pressures of manhood in today’s society, discussing the real-life challenges faced by men whether they’re building careers, families, or personal lives. The discussion heats up about holiday shopping habits and the preference between mall hustle or online comfort. Expect some hearty laughter as the hosts navigate the intricacies of shopping during the busiest time of the year.
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I can’t hide myself I don’t expect you to understand I just hope I can explain What it’s like to be a man It’s a lonely road And they don’t care about what you know It’s not about how you feel But what you provide inside that home
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Welcome to A Guy’s Perspective, where they discuss real life topics that men today are dealing with, whether married, single parent, or just single. We invite you to call into this live program with your comments and questions. And here they are.
SPEAKER 05 :
how’s everybody doing today it’s koz 560 am where the guys perspective every saturday from two to three and you can always chime in and talk with the the guys at 303-477-5600 again that’s 303-477-5600 um these guys love it when you call in especially to Especially when you’re putting us under the table. When you’re schooling us because we think we know so much and then we have some, you know, scientists call in and put us under the table. I love it, man. Like, it’s the way it is. But let’s go around the room and there’s, we’re missing Reno and Andre today. So hope they’re doing good. And let’s start here at the left.
SPEAKER 03 :
I am your favorite janitor. Truth, man, over there. I’ve been pretty busy these holidays, though, boy. A lot of clogged toilets, right?
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Nice, pulling in that green.
SPEAKER 06 :
I’m Brock.
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And this is Heath, the actor in Colorado.
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And we want to say Merry Christmas to everybody. I hope everybody has a Merry Christmas. Instead of shopping online, get out and try to get to the stores and stretch your legs. I think that’d be cool. Everybody get out and just kind of go to some stores.
SPEAKER 03 :
Dude, I love the busy time for the holidays.
SPEAKER 05 :
You do?
SPEAKER 03 :
Oh, yeah. I’m a last-minute shopper. I wait for the last minute.
SPEAKER 07 :
You enjoy that? You enjoy going out in the crowd?
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 07 :
Like, did you go Black Friday?
SPEAKER 03 :
No. No, they’re too stupid, Dan. Yeah.
SPEAKER 05 :
What’s your favorite store? Your go-to store?
SPEAKER 03 :
Oh, the mall. I go straight to the mall. I mean, them places are crowded. It’s like a two-hour wait line.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah. What about you? What’s your favorite store?
SPEAKER 07 :
No, I don’t like shopping at all. I’m pretty much a guy’s guy where if I need a hammer, I’m going to go to the store, walk down the aisle, grab the hammer.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, you’re not going to wait in no two-hour lines?
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, yeah. Like, I mean, not my favorite store, but one I’ve spent a lot of money at this past year for the 12 months or 11 months of building a house was Home Depot and Lowe’s.
SPEAKER 05 :
That was big time for me. That’s a go-to store, huh? There’s a lot of guys like some Home Depot and Lowe’s.
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, yeah, man.
SPEAKER 05 :
Let’s give a shout out to our donor.
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, yeah, to Michael, Michael Hand. And we’re going to read his book and talk about his book, but this is a generous donor. He’s up in Cheyenne, Wyoming. That’s how far this reach goes, people, KLZ 560 AM, all the way to Wyoming.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, it reaches all the way. Yeah.
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It reaches all the way out there. And he’s got a good book about the ABCs of dementia. Yes.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, dementia is a tough one, man. Yeah, and we’re going to read it. We’re going to research, do more about it. I don’t think we’ve ever talked about that on our show, have we?
SPEAKER 07 :
No, I haven’t.
SPEAKER 03 :
We’ve talked about health care, mental health, but I think that’s on a different platform. People deal with mental illness, but this is kind of like…
SPEAKER 07 :
uh you know a mental health situation because he’s not a fan with aging with aging yeah that that uh it’s funny man like before you drive a car you don’t consider you don’t concern yourself with the things of a car we’re at a park insurance what kind of car filling it up with gas you don’t concern yourself with any of that Then all of a sudden you’re driving a car. Now that all is a reality. So since none of us are, you know, in later stages of life, we’re all pre-50, we’ve not experienced that ourselves.
SPEAKER 03 :
And I haven’t had anybody in my family that’s experienced dementia. I wouldn’t even know, you know.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, and if anybody knows more than us, call at 303-477-5600. But dementia, isn’t that where you, like, forget everything? Isn’t that? Or am I wrong? Or is that Alzheimer’s? i don’t i don’t know i i we’ve never talked about it so i’ve never even done any research on it yeah so we’re gonna learn a lot if we dig into this book okay for michael hand yeah so so michael thank you for um thanks michael merry christmas um you’re in our prayers and we’re we’re all gonna buy your book read it and then um maybe we can get them on the show
SPEAKER 07 :
That’s a good idea. I don’t know. You want to come down all the way from Wyoming? It’d be cool.
SPEAKER 05 :
It’d be cool. It’d be super cool.
SPEAKER 07 :
It’s only like a two-hour drive, right?
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, it wouldn’t be too bad. It ain’t too far.
SPEAKER 05 :
Maybe, you know, how long? I go there every year for my fireworks. So there was something I want to say. Oh, one of you guys introduced our book. So our book is going to come out when? When are we thinking, guys?
SPEAKER 07 :
So we got a guy’s perspective, which is kind of an anthology of all of our life experiences culminating to where it brought us together as the guy’s perspective. And we’re writing it now, but we have to go through edit.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, I’m kind of thinking on branching off and doing my own show. You’re going to go solo beat? Yeah, out of a janitor’s perspective. Through the pipes. From the pipes.
SPEAKER 08 :
The correct way to hold the plunger, dude.
SPEAKER 05 :
that’s a funny stuff okay man let’s get serious and dive in man okay we’re gonna talk about little white lies man like when is it ever the time to spit out a lie that’s going to i mean this is right up my alley help somebody you’re familiar with lies yeah you know the bible says let god be true and every man a liar so i just embraced it yeah buddy Oh, we lie with a little lie. But it says right here, If you think my suit looks like crap, And you walk up to me, you’re like, oh, that’s the best suit ever. But in your mind, you’re thinking, whoa, where did he get that thing from?
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Right.
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Is it a lie?
SPEAKER 07 :
Absolutely. I think that’s a lie because you’re not being true to yourself and what you truly feel about. For whatever reason, you have reservations to telling a person the truth. Maybe you don’t know them well enough. Maybe you’re afraid of the repercussions or the consequences. Yeah.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, see, I don’t have the stomach to tell somebody. You know, I don’t have it inside me to say, hey, you know what? You know, I just got my haircut. Oh, you look great. You know, when inside, I’m like, man, they did a bad job.
SPEAKER 04 :
So you just come out and tell the person, hey, man, that haircut’s rough, buddy.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, we got to work on it. That’d be tough. Like, my mom always asks me, you know, do you like my earrings? Do you like my shirt? And I’m like, dude, no. No, I do. But, you know, I’m like, oh, it looks great. Right. Yeah. But you know, I can’t hurt her like that.
SPEAKER 05 :
But, but I mean, there’s some professions where lying is a part of their profession. Let’s be honest. Like none of us here are attorneys, but OJ was guilty, dude. Stretching the truth.
SPEAKER 04 :
OJ was guilty. Guilty is the day is long. You know what I’m saying? They got that dude off. He was guilty. Somebody told a lie.
SPEAKER 07 :
They were stretching the truth by shrinking the glove. What’s he saying? That the glove don’t fit? Yeah.
SPEAKER 03 :
Quit. Yep. The glove don’t fit. You must have quit. Jesus. Dude, I think everybody tells a small white lie like, you know, we’re talking about and just don’t, you know, you don’t presume it to be a real lie.
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You know what I’m saying?
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Because deep down inside, a real lie is, you know, trying to conceal something. You know what I’m saying? It’s trying to benefit the liar. So if I’m trying to lie to you like a real lie, then I’m trying to cover up something, conceal something that benefits me. But if I’m telling you not the truth, it’s to benefit you.
SPEAKER 07 :
I’m not trying to conceal it. You’re talking about intentionality?
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, I would say so. There’s no malice behind it. You know, if you give me a Christmas gift or a birthday gift and I don’t like it, I’m not going to tell you I don’t like it. Oh, that’s, yeah.
SPEAKER 07 :
I’m not either. What is that? There’s a saying, never look the gift horse in the mouth. Never look a gift horse in the mouth. I think that goes back to like the racing days of like the Saratoga horse races and stuff. And if you looked in the mouth of a horse that won because they were on like steroids, they got their teeth all grinded up. So you don’t look in the mouth to find out why it won or how it won. It was steroids, man.
SPEAKER 05 :
And people call us at 303-477-5600 and tell us about a little white lie.
SPEAKER 07 :
So that’s the thing, man. I think the problem is there’s consequences that people don’t want to face. No, yeah, for sure. If you tell the truth.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay, what parent, and I don’t care what anybody says, everybody on this planet has told the little white lie or… What’s up, Truth Daddy?
SPEAKER 03 :
Talk to me, Dad.
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Well, you know, there’s a lot of people do the little white lie just by talking to their kids, telling them Santa Claus is real. You got that. I don’t know how many times I’ve talked to women to to hit him up and told him something not very true, but stretching the truth. Stretching the truth. Yeah. Or just not say everything.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right. So would you say every person on the planet has told a lie at one time or another?
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I wouldn’t say every person, you know, because we don’t know about those indigenous people, but I believe there’s a lot more people than there’s not.
SPEAKER 05 :
Sorry, what profession would you say lies the most? A doctor? A lawyer? A lawyer. Or a politician.
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Or a car salesman. Oh, my God, this guy.
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Thanks for calling, Trues, man. Thank you. Hey, hey, Trues. One thing real quick.
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One thing real quick.
SPEAKER 13 :
All right, with the Trues book, don’t name it between the pipes because people will think that’s a hockey book.
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He can’t score with that. He can’t score with that. Instead of used car salesman. That’s true, man.
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Right? Jesus, man. What did you think about it? I mean, he’s probably right.
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How many women have you lied to to try to get what you wanted?
SPEAKER 05 :
I mean, a bunch of single guys out there. Like he said, he lied to a whole lot of women to get with him. I mean, that’s… But, so…
SPEAKER 03 :
but at the start of it he said look at santa claus oh that’s if you if you have a little person in your house are you really not going to tell him about santa claus oh i man it’s tough because when i was a kid i loved the story like when you’re a little kid you love the story you’re waiting up at night hoping santa claus shows up to bring you presents you’re you know you pass out waiting for him you understand i’m saying you love the story when you’re a kid
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, you get that anticipation, that excitement for it.
SPEAKER 05 :
When did you find out Santa wasn’t real, though?
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When I knew I was lied to.
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How did you catch your parents in the lie? Tell us the story.
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, it’s just, it happens to everybody, man. It’s all good and gravy and easy for parents to provide their kids with all those things when they’re cheap toys. When they get older and they want them expensive toys, they’re like, it’s not in the budget.
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And you’re like, well, Santa’s got a budget? People complain. Call us at 303-477-5600.
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That’s 303-477-5600. When did you learn Santa wasn’t real? I think I learned Santa wasn’t real when I stayed up late one night and I woke up real early in the morning. I’m like, he didn’t come when I was up.
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Yeah.
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You know, and then you start start wondering. And then year after year, it was the same president after the same president after the same president.
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It’s like plumbing tools, plumbing tools.
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Well, I remember when I found out Santa wasn’t real. I was living in Memphis, Tennessee. And in Memphis, Tennessee, they had like on the side of the house. And this is kind of off topic, but in Memphis, Tennessee, the first time I saw a trapdoor spider, too, I was playing like G.I. Joe’s and like the side of the house. Oh, and they left. Oh, yeah. He straight opened up and like lunged at me. I was like, what in the world? But that’s off topic. Anyway, back to Santa Claus. They had this on the side of the house. You could either go out the front door or the back door. And I went to the side and. I saw my parents carrying presents downstairs. And I was like, hold on a second, dude. That dude ain’t real.
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How old were you?
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Let’s see. In Memphis, I was eight because I got my front teeth knocked out when I was in Memphis and then got them re-knocked out when I was on the oil rig. But that’s going down a different path, too. But, yes, I was like eight, probably the same age as most people.
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Talk about lying through your teeth. That’s the – That’s the first time I ever heard you tell me the truth about why they’re so crooked.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, that’s for another episode. So I don’t think it’s necessarily wrong to let your kids know about Santa Claus.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, I think if you’re going to tell your family about Santa Claus, they better know about the real truth also at the same time. And that’s the reason for the season. Jesus died. So if you’re going to tell them about Santa, you better be telling them about Jesus in a manger also.
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Well, look how the truth can live forever because it’s living. But a lie only lasts a season. Like how many seasons did it last for like Santa Claus before you realize Santa Claus ain’t real? but then you look at seven eight ten is real it’s lasting your whole life yeah that’s a good point in fact that lie starts off like a very bright fire that that you know you believe in and then it just diminishes but the truth that like grows in its uh in its intensity
SPEAKER 05 :
And listen, people, we here, we all love Christmas. So I guess that brings up the next thing. It’s are you born with like an innate ability to lie or is lying something that we’re taught?
SPEAKER 03 :
Dude, I look at the story in the Bible where Jacob lied to his father Isaac for the blessing. And I’m thinking, dude, you lied immediately. You lied to your dad that he would give you the blessing in your life. You deceived him. And God blessed that. That’s powerful.
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Well, a couple more amazing points about that, B, is his mother conspired with him. That’s a lot of family matters there, bud. So there was conspiracy. That’s conspiracy. That’s bad. Real bad. But before that, too, when they were coming out of the womb, he grabbed his brother’s heel. Jacob grabbed Esau’s heel and came out before him. So it was already like predestined, back to one of our other shows, it was predestined that he was going to get his brother’s blessing.
SPEAKER 03 :
Oh, so it’s okay to lie in that situation?
SPEAKER 07 :
It’s almost like it was undeniable to end up. I think what happens with God a lot of times, he says that this stuff was going to happen, but woe to that person that made it happen.
SPEAKER 05 :
And people call us at 303-477-5600. I think more than the lie with Jacob and Esau, it shows the dysfunction of their family. For example, look at how it passed down. Abraham, Isaac, Jacob. Jacob turned around and had the 12 tribes of Israel. He took a favored son and made him a coat. How would you feel if it was Christmas Day and your parents gave you one present and everybody else got four or five?
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, and all year long, they were stitching that coat?
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah. Now we’re talking deep. This is real life stuff. That shows the Bible doesn’t just show the commodity of things, but it shows the dysfunction. These men were prophets, and they missed the mark when it came to family ties.
SPEAKER 03 :
No, you make a good point. You know how mad I would be if my parents favored one kid over us, and they’re making him a special coat, and I’m left out. I’m like, yo.
SPEAKER 05 :
But like you said, they deceived his mom. and him deceive their dad and God honored it. I mean, think, think no wonder Esau wanted to turn around and kill his brother for so many years.
SPEAKER 07 :
And that, and that mirrors the other thing of the brothers, the, uh, the, the 12 brothers, um, hating Joseph for sure. Uh, they hated him because they saw God’s like anointing upon him for sure. Um, and, uh, and, and, uh, And I don’t know. There was a lot of lies and deception in that.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, if you look at it, Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. Look at Abraham. God, I can’t believe we’re talking Bible like this for Christmas. Yeah. But if you think about, like, Abraham, he turned around, and as he’s traveling from country to country, he turns around and tells his own wife, hey, say you’re my sister to another person.
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Wow.
SPEAKER 05 :
I mean, to spare his own life. Dude, it’s deep. The Bible is deep. Dysfunction in families.
SPEAKER 03 :
That’s a white lie. That was a white lie. That’s a white lie. You’re right. I say that’s a white lie. Because at the end, he told him, he said that to him so they won’t harm him or whatever the reason was. God, do we have that scripture?
SPEAKER 05 :
Let’s look that scripture up.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, unfurl that because it is about… So Abraham and Sarah, and they were in that land. I forget which land it was.
SPEAKER 03 :
Remember, he lied to them and then… And then God came to him and told him what was going on. And he’s like, oh, well, they lied to me because they said whatever.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah. Well, because she was the daughter of his father, but not of his mother.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 07 :
It would be it would be a not a stepsister, a half sister.
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If I’m correct, they lied twice.
SPEAKER 05 :
If I’m correct, they lied twice. Listen, people, if you know more than us, call at 303-477-5600. I mean, honestly, think about what Brian’s saying. Because that lie could have went either way, dude. Now all of a sudden you have a king. Because didn’t the king turn around and say, hey, why’d you lie to me? Why’d you deceive me?
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Yeah.
SPEAKER 05 :
That’s really your wife.
SPEAKER 07 :
But let me stay on the Abraham thing, though, right? God said that in his old age and in Sarah’s old age that he was going to provide them a child, right?
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Right.
SPEAKER 07 :
But what did they do? They chose to give Sarah’s handmaid, Hagar, to Abraham. So they circumvented God because they thought to themselves in their own lie, they thought to themselves that, well, this is what God must mean.
SPEAKER 05 :
Wow. So do you think they did that versus… I mean, guys, we can stay on Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob for many, many, many, many, many sessions.
SPEAKER 07 :
So what if from lie to lie to lie, it’s just opportunity and grace and hope that God can make a way out of it? Not saying that a lie is the way to go, but… God can take that thing that is death and bring life out of it.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, you’re making a good point.
SPEAKER 07 :
Go from a lie to life.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, think of this, because not only did Jacob deceive his dad, his father-in-law, he went to and said, hey, anything that’s speckled in cattle is going to come with me. He made them eat and drink certain things That caused him to change his skin?
SPEAKER 07 :
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. He exposed the rod and the milk in the rod. And so he did artificial insemination, bro. He did artificial insemination to make sure that everything leaned in his favor. So he had more animals. But he was deceived, though. He was deceived by Laban. Laban told him, hey, here you can have Rachel only after Leia. Only after you lay with Leia.
SPEAKER 05 :
No, for sure. So that just goes to show the dysfunction and the lies in human beings.
SPEAKER 07 :
From a Bible, we see them as righteous human beings. They’re the ones that they’re spoken of in the Bible. And we see them as liars.
SPEAKER 05 :
And people, if y’all know more than us, call at 303-477-5600. We’re going to continue on this. I don’t even know how we got going down this road. I’m trying to get this scripture you were talking about. Because that lie could have been detrimental. Think of how much it would have changed the trajectory of the Bible if that king would have turned around. Well, it almost did, but God showed up. But God showed up. Because what happens if that king turns around and takes Abraham’s wife? Do we even have Israel today? Because isn’t that lineage coming from the free woman and the bond woman? Yes. Rachel and Hagar? Yes. I think it is.
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Yes. Yes. From Sarah came Isaac.
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Abraham Isaac. Yes. From Sarah came Isaac.
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But from Hagar came Ishmael.
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Ishmael.
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Ishmael is our Arab brothers.
SPEAKER 05 :
Oh, my God. So just that lie that Brian started by saying that was a white lie could have turned out to change the whole Bible.
SPEAKER 07 :
It’s believed that the people of Ishmael, from Ishmael, the bond woman, was it?
SPEAKER 05 :
Right.
SPEAKER 07 :
That it is people of Islam. I don’t know. I mean, I’ve heard that said.
SPEAKER 05 :
No, for sure. So have I. But now if we even go back further, let’s take you back to the garden. Well, let’s take you back to the garden.
SPEAKER 07 :
But let me say, let me say, I think just I want to I want to use Jesus scripture, the one that I like. That’s really a paradox. And it’s the when he ties up the. You’ve heard it said that you should not commit adultery, but I say to you that even if you commit adultery in your heart by looking upon a woman with lust in your heart, you’ve committed the sin. And he says so about murder. I think it’s the same about lies, and it’s all about heart matter. And so my sentiment is these things have to happen, and they keep falling in a fallen world for God to show up, just like Brian would say. So God showed up.
SPEAKER 03 :
See, I’ve got to disagree with some of that. Some of it was true. I can’t.
SPEAKER 07 :
See, look at the tongue of a heathen, man.
SPEAKER 03 :
I can’t lie in my heart. Like you said it all, you know, all the same. If you, you know, if you commit, you could commit murder in your heart. No, see, I can’t lie in my heart.
SPEAKER 05 :
But doesn’t the Bible say the heart is exceedingly wicked and no man knows it?
SPEAKER 07 :
David said that the heart is deceitful above all things.
SPEAKER 03 :
I couldn’t commit a sin lying in my heart. I don’t believe that I can lie in my heart and have to repent for it. Heart is deceitful above all things. I got to open my mouth to be a liar. No.
SPEAKER 07 :
Hey, if you couldn’t speak, you could write down a lie.
SPEAKER 03 :
Oh, yeah. No. Yeah. Yeah. If you couldn’t speak. Yeah. If you were deaf, I could lie to you. Wait. Mute.
SPEAKER 05 :
I mean, I guess it goes all the way back from the very beginning. So I asked, was a lie something we either created or we were born with? Well, the devil in heaven, when he revolted and lied, didn’t the Bible say he was the liar from the beginning? Oh, yeah. The father of lies.
SPEAKER 03 :
I mean, so did he lie to all the angels and tell them something that wasn’t true? Oh, my God, man. I mean, if you’re deceiving, what, one-third of the angels?
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, something like that, one-third or two-thirds.
SPEAKER 03 :
I mean, if you’re deceiving these guys, you’re lying to them. just like you know the devil tried to lie to jesus and offered him the world that you know wasn’t the devils anyway so i mean what was he offering the angels to leave their their natural habitat i mean just think about it what did you say i mean what did you tell these guys for sure what just like what did you what was actually the conversation from the bible the bible
SPEAKER 04 :
doesn’t write down everything. So when that dude was in the garden with Eve, what exactly was he telling her, dude?
SPEAKER 03 :
I mean, you’re chilling up in heaven, you know, in the presence of the Lord, and some guy’s whispering you something better?
SPEAKER 07 :
I don’t get it. The amazing thing.
SPEAKER 08 :
If I was talking about Streets of Gold and pearly gates and mansions, and you got some guy like, hey man, I know someplace better.
SPEAKER 07 :
Someplace better.
SPEAKER 08 :
I would have been that angel like, what’s this fool talking about? I don’t expect you to understand I just hope I can explain what it’s like to be
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Welcome to A Guy’s Perspective, where they discuss real life topics that men today are dealing with, whether married, single parent, or just single. We invite you to call into this live program with your comments and questions. And here they are.
SPEAKER 05 :
how’s everybody doing today this is klz 560 am um you can always reach the guys from two to three at 303-477-5600 and we were talking about little white lies and how it can affect a person and is a little white lie you know is it really that bad or can you can it do good and You know, come to find out everything from we talked last show, seems like it would turn out bad for people.
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, lies always equal death, man. Lies always.
SPEAKER 05 :
I mean, because I’m going to say one thing for sure, you know, if I’ve got the three-year-old running around at home, I’m letting her know Santa Claus is real, but… But that’s me. You know what I’m saying? And there’s many people out there that are going to do the same. But like you guys said, if we’re going to say Santa is real, we’ve got to also let them know the reason for the season. And that’s the manger.
SPEAKER 07 :
I think what will happen, though, is if you do that, it’s just my sentiment. I mean, I don’t have children. You guys know this. I had an episectomy. I was like, this world just messed up. But you can cause, I think, like a cognitive dissonance. in the mind of an individual like that because you’re holding Santa up with Jesus. Now, when Santa falls because he’s not real and they find out, then what do they think of the Jesus that you held up in that same capacity?
SPEAKER 05 :
Didn’t think about that. That’s interesting.
SPEAKER 07 :
Just got to be careful. Got to be careful what you tell people to believe in.
SPEAKER 05 :
And people call us at 303-477-5600. Tell us what you think about A Little White Lie. And back to what we were talking about earlier in the show, we were talking about Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, even though we didn’t attend for that, but how the Bible would have been changed off of just one lie. Abraham… was on a journey to to get to the promised land and his wife um he turned around and told the king here brian found the scripture for us abimelech and he was going to turn around and take the dude’s wife and if he does that that changes the bible forever right because now she would have been somebody else’s wife because she turned around and had the promised child which was
SPEAKER 07 :
Right. And what do you and what they did, I guess, Abraham and Sarah, they conspired to tell a little white lie in that event. More lies. Well, yeah. And they told the little lie because they knew that they were because way back then, people, people were more pure, kind of like a copy of a copy of a copy. You know, it gets generates from time. But back then people were more pure. So his father was the same father as Sarah’s father. But they were like half siblings because they had different mothers.
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Right. Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER 01 :
Right.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah. Right.
SPEAKER 07 :
So so they stood on that one half where it’s like, no, we’re not. We’re not together because this is my sister.
SPEAKER 05 :
No, you’re right. And that to me, and listen, people call in and chime in and at 303-477-5600. But like I said, it just showed like people don’t want to talk about like dysfunction, but the Bible shows like all these mighty men into dysfunction in their families. There was a lot of dysfunction, dude. I mean, when you turn around and you give Joseph a coat of many colors and you leave everybody else out, like you said, 365 days out of the year, no wonder his brothers couldn’t stand him.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah. You know, I’m thinking, man, anytime I ever told a lie, it’s because I didn’t have the faith that I was going to be okay in telling the truth.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay, so that brings up a whole new point. When you tell a lie to somebody, do you do it so that you’re being passive aggressive, but also because you don’t want to deal with the conflict or the consequences?
SPEAKER 03 :
No, most of the times I tell a lie is to get out of trouble or to get out of a situation. So you don’t deal with the consequences. Yeah, if I stole, you know.
SPEAKER 07 :
Is it a lie if like we needed to be here every Saturday between 2 and 3 and because I like say I hung out with my wife too long and I enjoyed that rather than telling you guys and I’m like, oh, man, I got a flat. I couldn’t make it in. It’s a lie. I tried to save face and not show up for the show. When I should have just said, oh, man, forget you guys. Have a good show. I’m hanging with my wife.
SPEAKER 05 :
Because I’ve said this on this show before. Here’s the scenario. I got painted one year in psychology class. If you have a special someone in your life and you don’t have health insurance. And the doctor’s not willing to treat them because they don’t have health insurance. But you know that that Walgreens down the street has the antidote to help your significant other. And you have the ability to break into that place and take that to save your significant other. Are you going to? And are you at the wrong for doing it?
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, that’s Robin Hood, man. Hey, man, I’m Robin Hood. I’m going in. I’m going in and I’m taking the antidote off. Stealing from the Walgreens and giving to the sick.
SPEAKER 05 :
But if you think about it, like Robin Hood, sure, to the rich, he was a bad person, a liar, a thief. But to the people he was accommodating, his culture, his society, he was a champ. I mean, look at politicians. They’re lying 24-7 and people are just eating from their lap. You know, they’re coming back to the table for more pudding. I mean, you know what I’m saying? I mean, there’s some crooked stuff out there. So when were we born with lies or were we taught to lie?
SPEAKER 03 :
Oh, you were born with it for sure.
SPEAKER 07 :
It’s in us. Oh, yeah. It’s innate. And you can try to curb it or stop it. But about the time you’re walking down the street, you’re having a bad day. And you smile at the person because they greeted you. And they’re like, hey, how are you doing? Oh, I’m good. That’s a lie. That’s a lie. You’re lying to them and lying to yourself. It may not seem like it’s going to be harmful, but it’s going to make your shell harder so that you start avoiding what you need to to work through the issues that you’re dealing with. Yeah, that’s true.
SPEAKER 05 :
Because do you think everybody’s born with the Ten Commandments in them? Because it says thou shalt not kill, thou shalt not steal, thou shalt not lie. Do you think that’s just something that’s been imprinted on people’s hearts? Or is that something that we just learned from our parents?
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What about you, B? Well, conviction, I think conviction really plays a part in all that. Like, so when I tell a white lie, I don’t really have conviction. But if I know I’m going to lie to you up front, like the other day, I went to the hospital because I had an infection in my, I had an infection. We’ll just leave it at that. So I told the doctor I had pain. I need pain medicine. He’s like, well, I can’t give you anything for it. You can’t give me anything for pain? Why do you think I’m here? Right? I’m at the hospital. And they’re like, oh, I can’t just take, you know, 800, Motrin, or whatever it may be. So I got out of the hospital, and then I needed some pain medicine. So I called somebody up. They had some. And they were like, hey, whatever you do, just take it at home. I don’t want to get in trouble. You know what I’m saying? I don’t want to be responsible for this. But that doesn’t happen all the time, right? I don’t call people up. But in a sticky situation, I’ll call somebody. And so they asked me, please don’t take it until you get home. You know, it was only one pill. So they called me up. They asked me, hey, did you take it when you got home? And I said, there was that opportunity to lie. You know what I’m saying? And I didn’t have it in me. You know, I said, no, I took it now. But if I would have lied, that would have been straight conviction from me lying to somebody, a white lie, saying, yeah, you look good today when you don’t.
SPEAKER 05 :
yeah i don’t feel conviction but when you call me and ask me did i do that and i told you yeah i took the pill right because i think lies i think god man after talking to you guys i used to think there was a different levels of lies but you know now now once we talked about the whole abraham thing something that seemed so minor could have became something so detrimental Like these scriptures here in the Bible, and I’m sure everybody knows about King David becoming King David and Saul going to battle him and Jonathan dying. Well, it says right here that the Amalekite answered. David was like, hey, you saw King Saul and his son and his armor bearer, all of them falling. The dude was like, yeah, I saw it all. And he was basically lying to David. And David didn’t know if that was a lie or not. But David was like, hey, man, I’m going to kill you for saying you killed him like so. God, man, and it brings back to what you said about, you know, if you turn around and say Santa Claus is real and kids see Santa Claus fall, is it planting something in their minds? Like, God, this show has completely changed my thought process on some things. Because I think there’s certain things that parents need to lie to their kids about. You know, that’s just me. Like, if your kid comes to you and he’s injured or hurt or is feeling a certain way, I think it’s a parent’s duty. To take him or her by the hand and say, you’re going to be okay. And the reason why I think that is, I thought about Kobe Bryant today. I don’t know why I did, but you know how his helicopter crashed years ago? Could you imagine how afraid his daughter that was in the helicopter with him must have been like, dad, are we going to be okay? I guarantee he looked his daughter in the face and said, we’re going to be perfectly fine. Even though the situation was so bad, he’s going to bring comfort to her. So I’m so conflicted on the white lie or the lie, you know, because that’s a crucial lie. You guys, the helicopter is going down.
SPEAKER 07 :
I remember a rap song. I can’t remember who the rapper was, but he said something to the effect of, because he had a son who was quadriplegic, and he said, my son will be all right, and if he’s not, my son will be all right because he’s God’s. So therefore saying that you’re going to be all right. You’re going to be all right. But even if we’re not all right, you’re still all right because you’re gods. And I think that’s something that people should really cling to is that when you do have a savior like Jesus Christ, that even in such a fallen world, when we have lie, cheat, steal, all of these things that we do, that’s why we give it to God.
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Right.
SPEAKER 07 :
That’s what I do. And that’s why I know that it’s a grace matter and not a works matter. That’s why it’s not about keeping the Ten Commandments or anything.
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I mean, for me, and people call in at 303-477-5600. If you think we’ve fallen off the turnip wagon and knocked ourselves on the head or, you know, it’s amazing because I think – So the way I view lies is there’s an innocency like a child. If a child tells a lie, I don’t even think the child knows they’re lying. You know what I’m saying? Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER 07 :
But then, yeah, I agree with Brian, right? They know.
SPEAKER 05 :
Oh, you think they know?
SPEAKER 07 :
No, because we’re talking about the age of reasoning. And that’s something that’s up for debate from a… Okay, what do you think the age of reasoning is? Watch, it’s going to be different from what Brian and I say, I promise you. And it’s going to be different from what I say. But Brian and I are going to be closer than you are.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay, what do you say the age of reasoning is?
SPEAKER 07 :
Five.
SPEAKER 05 :
Five. Yeah, we’re far off. Oh, what do you say? I would say 10.
SPEAKER 1 :
10?
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah. You’re going to say 20-something. Oh, no, no, no. Yeah, I say like 16, 17.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay, so what I’ve noticed with some of my friends that have children and stuff and are believers, they have this window of grace that they give to their children because they’re looking through this lens that they’re always their baby.
SPEAKER 05 :
Oh, for sure.
SPEAKER 04 :
For sure.
SPEAKER 05 :
That’s a true statement.
SPEAKER 07 :
So I’ve seen a brother of mine who was like, his kids, if they’re 21, no, they’re still under the age of reasoning.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right, and the reason why I believe that is because your brain is not fully developed until you’re 24, 25, and that’s statistically and scientifically proven. So I think the age of reasoning, at least in my mind, is when an 18-year-old makes a mistake. I’m not talking going, listen, people, we’re not talking shooting up schools and crazy crap like that.
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So then I got a litmus test for us, all three of us right here. Have you ever stolen?
SPEAKER 03 :
Yes. Yes.
SPEAKER 07 :
Me too. Did you know it was wrong when you were stealing?
SPEAKER 05 :
Oh, absolutely. When you stole? Yes.
SPEAKER 07 :
And when’s the first time you stole?
SPEAKER 05 :
Oh, I can comment on that.
SPEAKER 03 :
I was in junior high school.
SPEAKER 07 :
Junior high is the first time you ever stole anything?
SPEAKER 03 :
No, no. I would say, yeah. I would say- Stick of gum. Stick of gum. Yeah, I would say I was younger. A toy. I was in kindergarten school. Oh, okay. Oh, so you were way, way younger.
SPEAKER 07 :
I remember being very young, five, six, stealing and knowing there were consequences.
SPEAKER 05 :
That I absolutely remember the first time I felt like I stole. Absolutely. I was in Arizona. I was moved here right when I was 14. So I, I was 12, 12.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay, so Brian and I were young, like five, six.
SPEAKER 05 :
You were 12 that you knew. Absolutely, 100%. And I see it like it was yesterday. I know exactly where I was when I stole it. There was this arcade down the street from our house. They had plates of pizza, right? You could walk in and have pizza. Dude, I was hungry. I’m not saying hungry. You know how when you’re hungry, like the stomach’s growling, you’ve been outside in the sun all day long and you’re hungry. I went in there, took that plate and loaded up on some pizza, dude. That dude was like, you pay for this?
SPEAKER 04 :
I’m on the last slice eating that crap. I’m like, no, I didn’t and I bailed out, bro.
SPEAKER 07 :
See, that sounds like a well-orchestrated plot for stealing something, which means you were probably already proficient in it. No, no, no, no, no.
SPEAKER 05 :
I’m telling you, you were already proficient. He’s making a good point. But the reason why I think that age is so much greater, it’s because I feel like today, at least in our society, Young people get a bad rap for everything. You know what I’m saying? Just let a kid be a kid. Let him do his own thing.
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To go back to what you guys are saying, at what age, right? But if your parents aren’t teaching you the Bible, right, which tells you not to lie, not to steal, not to cheat. So if your parents aren’t teaching you the word, you would never know what’s a lie and what’s not. So then the Ten Commandments aren’t built into us. Yeah, so if your parents aren’t building the Ten Commandments into you, then how are you going to know right from wrong?
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Conscience, right? Even in a family that is probably atrocious, I think there’s boundaries. If you grew up in the cartel, man, yeah, the boundaries are broadened. There’s a lot more you could get away with and you can do and you can emulate, but there are street code that you don’t transgress.
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And people call us at 303-477-5600. But that brings up, that’s what I’m saying. Like, that brings us all back to the Bible being dysfunctional. These people in it, not the Bible, but it talks about the dysfunction. And why? And why? So that we can relate. Yes, because where you’re born and I hate to say it, but how you’re born and where you’re born will dictate what you do most of the time growing up.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, he makes up a good point. So we can relate because what does it say? It says that no man has been through something that somebody hasn’t already been through. Yeah, so when I’m in my situation, I’m thinking I’m like the only one in the world that’s ever dealt with this mental illness or whatever the situation may be, but come to find out somebody else has already dealt with it.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, it’s understanding trials and tribulations and knowing that your brother has either gone through or is going through those same things.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, that’s because we’re men, and as men, Listen, we’re not women, so we don’t know how that works, dude. But as guys, dude, we know when crap hits the fan, it’s a bad situation, dude. When you don’t have money, when you don’t have the resources you want, at least as a guy, it makes you feel inferior. Perfect word. Unworthy. It does. It really does. And so I wonder, Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, the dysfunction that they had, I wonder if they had something deep-rooted inside of them that would cause them to not feel like the men that they’re supposed to feel like.
SPEAKER 07 :
Hmm. You know, that’s a deep question, but it’s probably a question that a friend of mine, Bobby Lee black says this, um, uh, that things are either done in ego or in love and love is kind of like, you know, all encompassing in, in everything. Uh, and it can, it can kind of cover all things love get right. But if you’re doing things in ego, ego is fear of losing what you have or not getting what you want.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay. So then did Jacob do what he did out of ego?
SPEAKER 03 :
No, I think he did it out of love.
SPEAKER 05 :
He stole his brother’s birthright and his blessing out of love?
SPEAKER 03 :
But didn’t Esau really sell his birthright to begin with for a pot of stool for his dental? And I think the writing on the wall was there because he really didn’t care about it. And so if you’re going to show disrespect to that birthright.
SPEAKER 05 :
No, no, no.
SPEAKER 07 :
I think Brian’s wrong. No, Brian’s absolutely right, man. Oh, no, indeed not. Because he must have known from a young age that Jacob was being treated different than he was because he was supposed to come out first, but he came out second.
SPEAKER 05 :
If he really didn’t care, then why? If Esau didn’t care what his brother Jacob, if he didn’t care about that birthright or what his brother was doing, still in his blessings, why did he want to kill him for so many years?
SPEAKER 07 :
Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. Abraham was just as much to blame. Wait, Abraham, Isaac.
SPEAKER 05 :
Abraham started it all. And then his son Isaac, and then Jacob and Esau.
SPEAKER 03 :
Also, since Abraham lied to the king, it just passed it down to Isaac and Jacob. So Jacob started lying to Isaac.
SPEAKER 07 :
Generational lies.
SPEAKER 03 :
A bunch of liars. But check it out, man. Check it out.
SPEAKER 07 :
Isaac was just as much to blame because he treated Esau with, he doted upon Esau because Esau was the hunter of the field and he loved eating the meat. Oh, he loved that game. He loved the game.
SPEAKER 05 :
God, so then I, okay, so then that brings up the next point. Abraham, you have Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. Jacob and Esau, so when Jacob goes to Isaac, It’s going to give the blessing. Why wasn’t those blessings equal? Why did he want to give the oldest son, the firstborn, a bigger portion?
SPEAKER 03 :
Because they did that throughout. No, no, no.
SPEAKER 05 :
I get it.
SPEAKER 03 :
Every firstborn son.
SPEAKER 05 :
But that’s the type of division I’m talking about. When you show that favoritism, people don’t understand that. It brings us back to the coat of many colors. He wasn’t the oldest son, but he was getting favored above everybody else.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, there’s two examples, two examples of the ones that are doted upon, which then, I don’t know, man. I don’t know if it’s a lie at all, but I think people ought to be careful the way that they treat their children, if they treat one better than the other.
SPEAKER 05 :
That’s what I was saying for Christmas. You turn around and buy one kid a present and you don’t buy, let’s say you got three kids and you buy your oldest a present and the other two get left out. That oldest is in trouble or you buy that youngest a present and the other two. Let’s say you got a five, a four, and a three-year-old. You buy that three-year-old a present and that five-year-old gets left out. That five-year-old will probably hate. Even though they don’t know what hate is. Down inside, that seed of hate’s probably already taken root.
SPEAKER 03 :
Oh, yeah. Down the road, it’s going to pop up.
SPEAKER 05 :
It’s going to pop up one way or another.
SPEAKER 07 :
But check it. Here’s the beautiful thing with God and grace and everything. Everything that the devil would use as a weapon against the individual usually becomes an opportunity to grow and an opportunity to change.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, but I believe that wholeheartedly. But… at the end of the road is not everybody believes that. Not everybody’s a believer. Not everybody has grace and has mercy towards other people.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, but God has certainly used people, whether they are vessels of honor or a vessel of dishonor, he’s put them in lofty positions just because… Because this is the season of giving, right?
SPEAKER 05 :
It’s Christmas, man. We all love Christmas. Yeah. And Merry Christmas to everybody. Like… God, man, don’t you feel bad for some people during Christmas?
SPEAKER 07 :
Didn’t it feel like a lie to say happy holidays because we were muffled and we couldn’t say Merry Christmas? Not that I did. I mean, I’d still say Merry Christmas to everybody.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, what’s up with stores not saying Merry Christmas, dude? I hate that stuff.
SPEAKER 07 :
But it was muffled. It was like there were people who were afraid to say it because you’d get lambasted. You’d get treated wrong or looked at or mistreated for it.
SPEAKER 03 :
So what did they use? What are they using? Happy holidays.
SPEAKER 07 :
Happy New Year’s. Shoot, man. Every email that I send out for like work says God bless at the end of it. That’s just what I do.
SPEAKER 05 :
Oh, right on.
SPEAKER 07 :
I don’t care who I’m sending it to, man. You could be Islam, Jewish.
SPEAKER 05 :
Because it was weird. I was at Walmart and this was probably three years ago. And I turned around and said Merry Christmas to the person ringing up my stuff. And they just looked at me like I was crazy. I’m like, Merry Christmas. And they’re like, we’re not allowed to say that. And I thought to myself, like… I’ll say it twice. Yeah, I’ll say it as many times as I want. Merry Christmas. First off, I don’t work here, you know? And what’s wrong with people having a little bit of Merry Christmas in their life?
SPEAKER 03 :
They want to take Christ out of their… But why?
SPEAKER 05 :
Why do they want to take Christ out of their life?
SPEAKER 03 :
Because they’re not believers. Yeah, but… Just like they took Christ and prayer out of school.
SPEAKER 07 :
Here’s the thing, too, though, man. It’s a tough thing to be a zealot when you’re really… You’re full of zeal for, like, your… your ideology or your faith or something where you need their verification to say Merry Christmas back to you. I don’t need that. I don’t need it from anybody else. I know who I believe in, what I believe in, and what I’ll say. But if somebody’s Jewish and they want to say Happy Hanukkah, I’ll say Happy Hanukkah. I’ll be inquisitive about the eight days and stuff like that.
SPEAKER 05 :
So let me ask you this. Do you feel like you’re violating who you are? If somebody says, oh, I can’t say Merry Christmas and you don’t say Merry Christmas back. If they say Happy New Year’s, you say Happy New Year’s. Do you feel like you’re letting yourself down?
SPEAKER 03 :
No, I can’t. No, if that’s their belief and their situation. Then I’m not going to force anything. God don’t force himself on you. So I’m not going to force my religion on you either.
SPEAKER 05 :
That’s right. That’s what you say. But at the end of the day, man, I think saying Merry Christmas and Happy New Year’s is a good thing. And listen, people, this show turned out to be completely different than we thought it would. But you made a good point, man. I mean, it… What I love about the Bible, when I read it, it shows not only all the good things, because it shows the bad things also.
SPEAKER 07 :
And what I like to say with people, and certainly there’s a lot of archaeologists and historians and stuff that utilize the Bible to verify things that they’ve found in other cultures and experiences, things from the flood and kings and all of this stuff. So it’s got truth in it, and it’s not just hocus pocus or just like cobbled together with all the good. It shows the bad. It shows the ugly. It shows the atrocious.
SPEAKER 05 :
It does if you want to see it.
SPEAKER 03 :
And the redemption. Yeah, you know what? If you want to see it. Yeah, now that you’re bringing that up, I think when you read the Bible, you can tell that there’s one author, even though 66 people, I think, There’s 66 books. I don’t know how many authors there were, but you can tell that the author is the same when you read the Bible. You can tell it’s the same. I don’t care who’s writing it. You can tell it’s from the same source. Because it’s the same source. It’s from God. And so when you read the… And I hate to say it, and I’m not putting anybody down, but when you read the Book of Mormon… You can tell that that has no… Dude, I tried reading it, dude.
SPEAKER 05 :
I couldn’t do it.
SPEAKER 07 :
You could tell that the source is not the same. I got about six chapters in. Same thing with Quran. For me, what I saw was diametrically opposed things. I saw yin and yang. I saw harsh treatment, and then it was chaotic to me.
SPEAKER 03 :
So you read the Book of Mormon?
SPEAKER 07 :
I read about six chapters of the Book of Mormon.
SPEAKER 03 :
So did you know that the author wasn’t the same from the Bible to the Book of Mormon? I’m aware of that, yeah.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, I read about six or like half of it. I couldn’t figure it out.
SPEAKER 07 :
But I’ll close with this one last thing. I did read the Tanakh, which is the Hebrew Bible. It’s exactly verbatim the Old Testament.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, that’s something we can debate on. It’s because the King James writing is going to be different. We’ll talk about that another time. People, see y’all later. God bless and a Merry Christmas to everybody. Merry Christmas.
SPEAKER 11 :
I don’t expect you to understand. I just hope I can explain what it’s like to be a man.
SPEAKER 10 :
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