The hosts of A Guy’s Perspective tackle a heated and wide-ranging conversation about global conflict, nuclear weapons, and the role of the United States on the world stage.
The discussion begins with the question many Americans are asking: Why is the United States targeting Iran? The hosts explore the history of tensions between Iran, Israel, and the United States, including the killing of Iranian military leader Qasem Soleimani and the broader geopolitical implications that followed.
The conversation expands into a debate about nuclear weapons and global security. The group discusses which nations currently possess nuclear arsenals, the risks of unstable governments
SPEAKER 07 :
I can’t hide myself. I don’t expect you to understand. I just hope I can explain what it’s like to be a man.
SPEAKER 01 :
Welcome to A Guy’s Perspective, where they discuss real life topics that men today are dealing with, whether married, single parent, or just single. We invite you to call into this live program with your comments and questions. And here they are.
SPEAKER 03 :
All right, man, let’s go around the room, introduce you guys ourselves. Let’s get to it.
SPEAKER 11 :
Hey there, hey there. This is Heath Heine, the windshield repair master. Let me find your crack and fill it.
SPEAKER 12 :
I am your entrepreneur and local janitor. I’m Brock.
SPEAKER 06 :
I’m Reno, owner of Blueprint Electric.
SPEAKER 03 :
And so it’s been an interesting week, man. You know, America’s sitting there bombing, you know, a bunch of… I almost said, you know, something I shouldn’t have said right there. But they’re bombing another country and they’re bombing Iran. Why are we bombing them? I mean, all week long I’ve thought about it. I’m sure you guys have thought about it. I’m sure our listeners have thought about it. Why are we bombing them anyway?
SPEAKER 12 :
I think this goes back to 2020 when, you know, President Trump was president the first time. And he ordered a strike on Qasem Soleimani or whatever. Sounds like a terrorist to me. But no, he was considered, you know, like a second man in charge. He was like a hero. In Iran Like no other president Would touch that guy But Donald Trump You know Gave the go Gave the The green light Didn’t we just kill Their like main leader So after Yeah you just killed Their Ayatollah Yeah Yeah right
SPEAKER 03 :
No, no, that’s who we killed.
SPEAKER 11 :
Ayatollah Panini or whatever it was.
SPEAKER 03 :
That’s the only reason we just decided to bomb them just because we didn’t like their leader?
SPEAKER 12 :
No, this goes back because the proxies, because Iran, you know, they put Israel and America together as one. Right. So when Trump bombed Soleimani, you know, Iran took it to attack Israel. And that’s what you have with the attacks of October 7 when, you know, twelve hundred civilians in Israel died. Now, they could say that it was, you know, you know, they could say that it was. That it wasn’t Iran, but they paid for the malicious groups that orchestrated it. So they’re funding them with their money. Iran can say they had nothing to do with it, but they had everything to do with it. So that’s why you have such a war you do in Israel now. Gotcha.
SPEAKER 06 :
Guys? I thought it had to do with the… nuclear weapons program.
SPEAKER 03 :
That’s what I thought. Yeah, I mean, if you’re a country that… Listen, at least the way I believe, some conflicts can only be resolved by war. You know? There’s some countries that are not stable enough. They do not have leaders. We’re being serious right now. Do not have leaders… That are stable enough to even have a nuclear program. You know what I’m saying? Those people need to be bombed. Maybe they don’t need to be bombed, but their mission to achieve their ultimate goal of receiving a weapon of mass destruction needs to be taken out.
SPEAKER 11 :
Isn’t part of the agenda for this war to usher in the Second Coming or anything like that? I know it seems a little bit off topic, but for most Christian nationalists and stuff like this, they believe that the war has to happen.
SPEAKER 12 :
in in uh israel um in order to to bring that in therefore making it a holy war i can’t agree with that for the simple fact they’ve been at war for so long yeah i’m saying they’ve been at war for so long i mean you know just to say they’re at war now oh that’s that’s the war that’s going to happen you’re not you can’t be positive in that yeah it’s never ended yeah i don’t think it’s a holy war at all it’s technically not a war it’s military operations there you go that’s
SPEAKER 03 :
That’s what’s funny. Right. So no, he’s 100% right. Because Congress has to declare war, even though everybody’s saying this is a war. Congress never declared it a war. So it’s not technically, I guess, a war.
SPEAKER 11 :
So even a president can’t veto that or they can’t begin a war without Congress?
SPEAKER 03 :
No. So I guess what the president does, the president has the ability. He’s the commander general. He can send our aircraft carriers, jets. He can bomb your land. He can send the troops in the whole nine yards. But there’s a big difference between Congress declaring war. and Trump or our president or our leader just sending troops in and bombing stuff.
SPEAKER 06 :
So he just has to give notification that he’s sending troops. Right. How far in advance, but he has to give Congress notification that he’s sending troops for military operations.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, but I seriously believe this. This goes back to what I was saying about the deadly attacks. on israel october 7th because 1200 1200 civilians were killed not not soldiers so they you know they killed they killed civilians brutally so with that in mind when you’re going when you’re going into the war now talking about you know a nuclear they can’t get a hold of nuclear bomb look what they did without the nuclear bomb they were just killing people who was killing them Iran. That’s militia. So if you see this kind of horror that they’re doing with just bombs and whatever they have available now, what are they going to do if they get a hold of a nuclear weapon? That’s why it’s so imperative that you stop them now.
SPEAKER 06 :
So is it the government of Iran or is it the militias in Iran?
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, it has to be the government because they’re supporting them. So it has to be the government. Well, because it is a holy war. In all reality, because if you look at a map, like I was looking one time, a friend was showing me, you know, Israel, because there were different colors, right? So you had red Israel, and then everything else was brown, right? And I was like, what’s the brown? He’s like, that’s all Muslim nation. I was like, my gosh, look how much Muslim covered around Israel, which is Christian base. So here you have Muslims attacking the Christians because they want their land. But Israel’s like, no, you’re not going to have my land because this is all, you know. So I would say, yeah, it is a holy war.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, wouldn’t Iran be charged as like, wouldn’t that be war crimes at that point? But I guess if they just turned around and bombed Israel, when did you say that happened? October 7th.
SPEAKER 1 :
2023.
SPEAKER 12 :
2023? But they say it was for retaliation for the order of President Donald Trump killing Kassim Hasselini or whatever.
SPEAKER 03 :
Because the way war crimes work is… willfully killing or um killing civilians or prisoners of war so couldn’t they actually technically be charged under like war crimes or or would that just be kind of like what we’re doing just bombing people because i i think trump has an agenda like you like you said you can’t let these crazy dudes have a nuke that that can’t happen well i don’t want you to have like you know a breakdown in um uh
SPEAKER 11 :
What is it? A breakdown. Sorry. I’m having a breakdown, people. No. But what’s good for the goose is good for the gander. So if you say that our president can’t really declare war, it has to be Congress, but he can go in and he can start shooting up places and stuff, then what if the same goes for every United Nation or every other nation? If they go ahead and just start bombing people but they haven’t declared war, well, they’re not in war. So how then could they be held for war crimes if they didn’t even declare war?
SPEAKER 03 :
Right. They probably can’t. And anybody who knows more than us, call at 303-477-5600. Because formal war requires a joint resolution or declaration of war from Congress as a mandate by Constitution. Current actions. These are considered, from the executive perspective, authorized military strikes on a major combat operation led by President Obama. As commander-in-chief, while Trump’s administration notified Congress of the strike, they have not requested a formal declaration. Okay. Objective and scope. Formal war. Traditionally implies to total war effort aimed at the complete destruction and unconstitutional surrender of the enemy state. Often involve full-scale invasion and occupation. So, I think what… we’re doing, I think, to declare war would be like what Russia’s doing to Ukraine. Like Russia’s full on going into Ukraine and annihilating everything. They’re killing civilians, they’re blowing up buildings. But what we’re doing is just like a targeted attack on certain individuals to make sure they can’t
SPEAKER 11 :
hurt us as an americans or other people that that wouldn’t have the ability to be able to fight back if that makes sense a side note that i have on that is i do think from a military strategy point um and maybe ethical and i’m doing air quotes ethical uh that the precision precision bombing gets its target rather than, like, you know, what happened with Nagasaki and Hiroshima.
SPEAKER 03 :
Oh, for sure.
SPEAKER 11 :
You drop a bomb, it doesn’t matter who it harms. I would like to, I guess, applaud the military for growing in that capacity that they could be more precise on who they need to hit, when they need to hit, where they need to hit.
SPEAKER 03 :
Oh, yeah, we got the baddest military on the planet, dude. There’s no doubt about it. I guess because I salute Trump for what he did because if you let these type of people Because how many nations – can we look it up or maybe a caller can call in and let us know at 303-477-5600? How many nations have nuclear bombs right now or the nuclear capability? It’s low.
SPEAKER 12 :
It’s like seven or – it’s like ten. Eight or ten.
SPEAKER 03 :
What nations would that be? I’m sure China, America, Russia – pakistan korea for sure kim jong-un well yeah i mean you but you see what i’m saying like like like that dude’s a wacko like long jong-lun or whatever his name is dude like why does that guy got a nuclear bomb like kim jong-un
SPEAKER 06 :
Nine countries currently possess nuclear weapons. What countries are those? Russia, United States, China, France, United Kingdom, Pakistan, India, Israel, and North Korea.
SPEAKER 12 :
Okay. That’s what I don’t get. Why is it? Now, I’m so for Israel, but why are they allowed to have a nuclear bomb? Good question. But then on the other hand, they’re saying, oh, Iran, you can’t. In Iran’s mind, let’s just take ourselves out of it for a minute or your religious beliefs out of it, right? Just take yourself out of it and just think logically. If you’re an Iran president, it’s okay for Israel to have a nuclear bomb, but I can’t defend myself and have one also? That would be their mindset, wouldn’t it?
SPEAKER 06 :
um there’s 12 500 warheads and who do you think has the majority of those oh probably russia i say russia america the united states holds 90 of that total there you go of how many
SPEAKER 11 :
12,500. Is there a way one of us… So we have 1,000 nukes or something.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, is there a way we can look up the total amount that maybe Russia and China and America has total, like total nuclear warheads?
SPEAKER 06 :
No, this is the total warheads altogether.
SPEAKER 03 :
Oh, gotcha. That are active, that are in play as of right this moment?
SPEAKER 06 :
So it’s 12,300 to 12,500, but the United States of America owns 90%. Jesus Christ.
SPEAKER 11 :
There’s this one bomb that China has and they were showing off in the Olympics or something like that. I’m not sure where they showed it off. This is my opinion, people. And they call it like 61. And it’s 61 because it has like 60 nuclear warhead on it and one atomic.
SPEAKER 03 :
Golly. I mean, you brought up a good question. Okay, so the Olympics just happened. Russia wasn’t allowed to participate, or they could participate, but they couldn’t raise their flag.
SPEAKER 12 :
No, they didn’t participate at all. Okay, well, that’s fine.
SPEAKER 03 :
Right. But if America would have been bombing Iran right now, do you think they would have kept America out of the Olympics? Of course not. Of course not. Because we’re the most major player on the planet because I think everybody follows us except for maybe China and Russia. And to go back to what you’re saying, why can Israel have a nuclear bomb and not Iran? I think it’s the stability, the mindset of people. Like Israel’s under check to America. Because they’re our allies. So if Israel has a bomb and they wanted to use a weapon of mass destruction, we would step in and say, no, you can’t do that. Who’s there to check and balance Iran? Nobody. They would just do whatever they want to do, just like Russia can do whatever they want to do.
SPEAKER 11 :
Their allies are Russia and China.
SPEAKER 03 :
Russia’s not going to stop anybody from using a bomb. That’s the most evil country on the planet.
SPEAKER 06 :
So I’m sitting here looking it up, and it’s saying two different things. Between Russia and the United States, on one chart it shows Russia having a bigger stockpile than the U.S., and on another chart it shows the U.S. having a bigger stockpile than Russia. See, that’s the war. So I don’t know what’s accurate.
SPEAKER 11 :
That’s the real war. The real war is giving us all misinformation, giving us two variants of information. How does one tell truth from non-truth? Use Snopes? Is that the only thing we can do?
SPEAKER 12 :
No, that’s good. What you’re asking is really good. But it wouldn’t matter who had more nukes because that’s all it would take to annihilate a country.
SPEAKER 06 :
So between Russia and the U.S., it’s 90%, not the U.S.
SPEAKER 03 :
And somebody call in at 303-477-5600 and tell us how many nukes would it take to actually… destroy a whole country, let’s say a continent, how many would it take to destroy a whole continent?
SPEAKER 11 :
10 20 yeah you think that many huh well but but then we’re talking about fallout too though because there’s the there’s the initial and the blast and the and the people who are at the epicenter then you have the fallout of uh um radiation and what happens thereafter yeah what kind of radius would that reach that gives you a nuclear winter man it goes around the world the whole globe well that that’s what i’m saying like like
SPEAKER 03 :
how many nukes would it take to do that and that’s what if it’s just one then by what we’re doing by all means we need to make sure at all costs if somebody could destroy our planet we don’t let that happen i think we should probably ask the um tootsie roll pop owl how many nukes to get to the center it’s the guy man it’s god but but i mean no think about that like like like It would be absolutely imperative to stop somebody from at least – because we don’t know the leader that just got killed. We don’t know his mindset. We don’t know the mental state of that person. There’s crazy people in this planet. There’s people that now get – guns they get background checks they go into malls and they shoot up malls there’s there’s kids going into school shooting up kids um grocery store shooters that that thing in boulder over there that happened a few years ago there’s wackos all around and that’s on a small level imagine if it was a
SPEAKER 11 :
big thing yep i see uh what is it with uh great responsibility comes or great power comes great responsibility oh my god and and that’s a tough thing man even putting the putting a gun in the hand of the wrong person mentally unstable ends in in in bloodshed wow how much more how much more dude say that say that again everybody needs to hear what you just said re-say that man yeah What is it? With great power comes great responsibility. And even putting the gun in the hand of the wrong person mentally unstable can cause him bloodshed. But much more when you give things like nukes. That’s crazy, man.
SPEAKER 06 :
But the only thing… So tens or hundreds of nuclear bombs would disrupt global climate. Yeah. Tens or a hundred, you said? Tens or hundreds. But depending on where they, I guess it doesn’t matter where they land. It’s going to disrupt the atmosphere and the climate. Okay.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, what happens if it hits the ground versus explode in the air?
SPEAKER 11 :
Is there a difference? Well, even what Reno’s saying is between tens and hundreds. Dude, it could be ten with just like China shooting at us and us shooting at them. That’s ten. Wow. Five and five. Wow. That could disrupt climate.
SPEAKER 06 :
Wow. It could disrupt climate to the point where nuclear fallout. Never know what could happen. What were you saying?
SPEAKER 12 :
I just don’t see why America tries to be, you know… The police? The police of the whole country, like the whole world. Like, I mean, we need to take our own interests. And I know we back Israel, and that’s the number one reason why I voted for Donald Trump is for that very reason. And maybe that’s what we’re doing. But I think we totally need to stay out of, you know, other people’s –
SPEAKER 11 :
situations well it always leads in ruin man because obviously i think i for what i know going back to like world war ii yes we needed to get involved because of what was going it was a genocide of the jewish people unless you don’t believe that uh and so we had to get involved and we were getting bombed by uh pearl harbor by by japan and so we had to move we had to move on something But every war thereafter, it’s like we do. We meddle. We get involved with something for our own interest, and then it has just terrible, terrible fallout, man. While like Vietnam, we might have lost 13,000. I’m probably wrong. Quote me if I’m wrong. But 13,000 troops, they lost 1.3 million. It’s like unbelievably unbalanced, a lot of bloodshed.
SPEAKER 06 :
So let me ask you this, since you said that. Yeah. If someone like Iran and Russia or Pakistan and India or countries in close proximity had a nuclear war, do you think it would affect us?
SPEAKER 11 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 06 :
Then why wouldn’t we get involved?
SPEAKER 11 :
Oh, good question. That’s a very good point. So getting involved for the greater good so that something can be handled quickly.
SPEAKER 06 :
If they have a nuclear war where bombs are launched and we don’t get involved, and if we stop it by getting involved, and it saves not only lives close to it, but it could affect us over here, Once that stuff gets into the atmosphere, you don’t know how far the reach is. But that’s a big gamble, isn’t it?
SPEAKER 12 :
That’s a big gamble to start it, to stop something that you think is going to occur. In aspect, it could start it.
SPEAKER 06 :
It could just be wisdom.
SPEAKER 12 :
It could go either way there.
SPEAKER 03 :
So that’s just a gamble. Well, I want to ask you, if America doesn’t take the bull by the horns, who’s going to do it? Well, I mean, you know what I’m saying? Like somebody’s got to step up. I mean, it’s just like a business. Somebody’s got to step up. I mean, it’s got to be done, guys.
SPEAKER 06 :
And it’s not a gamble. It’s not a gamble if it’s smart.
SPEAKER 03 :
Whoa, whoa, whoa. It is a gamble.
SPEAKER 06 :
It’s not a gamble. Hold on, guys.
SPEAKER 12 :
Hold on. One at a time, Brian. You say it’s not a gamble. You go in there and attack Iran to stop them from getting a nuclear war. If people that they’re people that they have want to come and defend them, then guess what you have? You have a world war.
SPEAKER 06 :
I guess it’s a difference of opinions. Well, of course. Because it’s not a gamble. In my eyes, it’s not a gamble. That’s powerful. There’s no gamble in it. If you’re doing something that’s going to affect me and I don’t get involved and then I don’t get involved, it affects me. That’s good, man.
SPEAKER 03 :
I’m going with the Reno on that, man. I got to go with the Reno on that.
SPEAKER 11 :
That was wisdom, man. I’m going to go with Brian.
SPEAKER 03 :
Oh, okay. All right. Us two on you two. Okay. All right. We’ll do this. We’ll do this. We’re separating the room, people. Yeah, we’re splitting up on this.
SPEAKER 11 :
I’m going to Reno on this 100%, dude. If it’s going to affect me, I got to jump in. But I’m going to say this, man. How many times can Tyson win a fight?
SPEAKER 03 :
Hold on. Hold on. We got to go back. Are we talking his prime or now?
SPEAKER 11 :
In his life, in his entirety. And he’s not 200 years old like the U.S. is. The U.S. has been winning a lot. But guess who’s been preparing during those losses? Other countries have been preparing during their losses and our wins and don’t think that they haven’t been counting every loss, getting better, getting better, getting better.
SPEAKER 06 :
It’s coming, man. It’s not only that that affects me, but it’s that that affects those that I love. or those who I am partnered with, like Israel.
SPEAKER 03 :
And people, this is really good. Call at 303-477-5600. I have to go with Reno. If somebody doesn’t step up and put a stop to it, who’s going to?
SPEAKER 11 :
But come on. You’ve got to say it’s going to ignite something. It can either go one of two ways. It could go the way that Trump wants it to go, which is go in there, do the strike, hasn’t declared war, and they bow and kowtow to us, and then all of a sudden we’re on top again. Or they could have been preparing this whole time, man, because they’ve learned how it is to lose, and they don’t want to lose no more. So that’s why they’re doing things. And I’ll talk about it on the other side with the economical impact.
SPEAKER 06 :
But you don’t think we’re getting better?
SPEAKER 03 :
They just stay in the same place? He’s rebuttaling you guys. I didn’t even say that. He’s rebuttaling you guys.
SPEAKER 12 :
Or their allies of Iran get involved and come to their defense. And before you know it, you have way more casualties. And now you have a real war at your hands.
SPEAKER 03 :
So do you believe we should let an unstable country have a nuclear bomb?
SPEAKER 06 :
Absolutely not.
SPEAKER 03 :
You two men believe we should let some wacko just build a bunch of crap.
SPEAKER 12 :
On that, if Iran does come up with a nuclear bomb and they decide to use it, the whole country would get blown off the map.
SPEAKER 03 :
So that’s what Arino’s saying. Somebody’s got to, for the sake of the little guy, somebody’s got to intervene. And if Trump doesn’t intervene, what other United States president, and I hope every president’s learning from what Trump just did. You should step in and put America first. Because you know what? America has to come first. I’m sorry about Ukraine. I’m sorry about Russia. I’m sorry about Israel. If we don’t put a stop to some wacko, they’re probably bombing America. They’re probably not bombing anybody else.
SPEAKER 11 :
I didn’t even think that Brian had that idea. He must have watched the… Trey Parker and Matt Stone. What is that? Team America. To be like, man, we’re policing all of the world.
SPEAKER 03 :
But it made me think about it. When he said that, the thought came to my mind. If somebody doesn’t step up and take the bull by the horn and protect the world and be that shield for humanity, who else is going to do it?
SPEAKER 12 :
No, that’s good. And I agree with that. Also, I’m like, you know, stuck between both sides because there’s good, you know,
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, what good’s coming out of Iran if we just don’t drop hundreds of bombs? Like, what good could have came from what they were doing? I don’t see the good in that.
SPEAKER 11 :
There’s a wise man, and he said, war, huh, what is it good for?
SPEAKER 03 :
Absolutely nothing. We’ll see y’all on the other side. Thank you.
SPEAKER 07 :
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SPEAKER 01 :
Welcome to A Guy’s Perspective, where they discuss real-life topics that men today are dealing with, whether married, single parent, or just single. We invite you to call into this live program with your comments and questions. And here they are.
SPEAKER 03 :
How’s it going, everybody, today? This is the second half of our show, The Guys Perspective, on KLZ 560 AM. You can always talk to the guys at 303-477-5600. We’re not going to waste any time. We’re going to dive right back into it. We’re in a heated debate. If Heath and Brian were kind of thinking that America sticks their nose into places they shouldn’t, and me and Irina were like, well, somebody’s got to defend America just kind of to recap and defend the world. Since World War II, the U.S. has engaged in numerous military operations authorized by Congress or initiated by the executive branch without formal declaration of war. Examples are the Cold War, Korean War, Vietnam War, Gulf War, the War on Terror, the War on Cartels, the current war we’re at. But Congress hasn’t declared a war, but because the president of the United States, which is, I believe, the most powerful man on the planet. Can attack, you know, and he’s got to give like what is it like 40 hours or something like that or two days notice to Congress that he’s going to do it. So I think what he’s doing to Iran is a good thing. But that’s me.
SPEAKER 11 :
I don’t think that you you did tell people just now what what are not wars. Right. But you didn’t. Did you tell them what our wars?
SPEAKER 03 :
I did not.
SPEAKER 11 :
the War of 1812, the Mexican-American War, Spanish-American War, World War I, World War II, Pancho Villa, and what was that? Remember the Alamo?
SPEAKER 03 :
And those were declared wars by Congress. Like when Congress declares war, you’re, buddy, it’s full on.
SPEAKER 11 :
You can annihilate somebody. So technically speaking, or legitimately speaking, there has not been a quote-unquote war since World War II.
SPEAKER 03 :
Right, Congress hasn’t declared America in war.
SPEAKER 06 :
So has there ever been a war on American soil?
SPEAKER 11 :
Civil. Civil. Civil war. It’s the only one I know of.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, Revolutionary War. Thank you, Charlie, for the booth. No, he’s 100% right right there. Revolutionary War. You know? But here’s a better question. I’m at war every day with my belly in these streets. Here’s a better question. Here’s a better question. Since the turn of the century, has an enemy ever stepped foot on our soil to try to take us over? No, man. Or could they even?
SPEAKER 06 :
So do you consider 9-11… Good question.
SPEAKER 11 :
No, it’s called an act of terrorism, is it not? It’s not an act of war.
SPEAKER 06 :
I have my own opinion on that.
SPEAKER 11 :
Oh, inside job. We’ll stick to the topic.
SPEAKER 03 :
So when it comes to Iran, and here’s the only question I have. We’re trying to eliminate them because Trump said these are the reasons why he’s taking them out. He wants to get rid of their missile capabilities, annihilate or neutralize Iran’s navy. Prevent Iran from developing nuclear weapons, which I completely agree with. Dismantling state-sponsored militia, proxy groups, or terrorist groups. The question I have is when did Israel jump in? Like what’s Israel’s part of this? We’re trying to stop them from having a nuclear bomb, but why?
SPEAKER 11 :
Like Brian was leading to is there’s already been a war between.
SPEAKER 03 :
Hey, what’s up, buddy?
SPEAKER 08 :
Hey, what’s going on, fellas?
SPEAKER 03 :
What up?
SPEAKER 08 :
What up? How you doing, son?
SPEAKER 03 :
What do you think? Do you agree with Heath and Brian? Do you think we’re just meddling, or should we bomb them and make sure they don’t get nuclear capabilities?
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, some people we do meddle with, but this is just we do at the Bobville because we’ve been at – they’ve been – I can take it for a long time. You know, debt to America, all that kind of stuff. You know, they’ll bother the terrorist state, all that good stuff. We just can’t let that fly. You know, and send the money to them so they can build their own stuff. Wow. It’s not the way to do it like the last president did. You know, send them a billion dollars for what? So they can blow us up with our old buddy?
SPEAKER 03 :
Wow, he’s bringing good points. Thanks, buddy, for calling. Yeah, thanks, Dad. We appreciate that. So he made a good point. Did we actually send Iran money at one time?
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, he made a good point that I was going to bring up before he called. All right, so Trump could go in there, do what he’s doing, maybe cause a World War III. You’re not for sure, right? And in four years after this, if it doesn’t cause a World War III, right, a new president comes in. Before you know it, Iran could be back to their old ways, doing the same thing, trying to get weapons, nuclear weapons. And we’re at the same situation we’re at now down the road. Like the caller just said, our old president was sending money to Iran, and they were using it to build weapons that just shot us.
SPEAKER 03 :
But here’s the thing. If we stop them now, that may set them back 40 years. So you either stop them now and you eliminate them now. Hold on, hold on, hold on. I’ll let you finish. You eliminate their nuclear capability now. They may never be able to recover from that. But if we don’t, there’s probably 100% guaranteed that if they get a nuclear bomb, they’re bombing America.
SPEAKER 06 :
So what you’re saying, Brian, is to just stay out of it because another one of our presidents is going to come up down the ranks and send them another $8 billion?
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, you don’t know that.
SPEAKER 06 :
I’m asking a question. Good question.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, I would say history repeats itself. That’s a good answer. It’s bound to happen. I mean…
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, shoot, the only way to stop that then is make President Trump the king so that no longer flip-flopping between Democratic and Republican.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, there’s no way that’s going to happen. But hold on, hold on. He’s bringing up a good point. You can actually keep the same party in if everybody votes Republican. Yeah. But if they’re out voting Democrat and you get a Democratical president, you don’t know what’s going to happen.
SPEAKER 12 :
I mean, I was listening to what you said, and you made a great advice. that we might we might take him back 30 40 years but wasn’t that the first strike supposed to do that when we bombed them the first time back to bush we were supposed to set them back but it didn’t do anything they didn’t do anything at all so now you’re back at you’re you’re back at square one doing it more intensely now and who’s to say it has to succeed But, I mean, you’ve got to give it a shot. I agree with that, but you never know. We could be at the same situation.
SPEAKER 03 :
Listen, man, if you take a big old crap and the toilet gets plugged, you’ve got to plunge it. So if you come back and take another crap, you’ve got to re-plunge it, bro. I’m telling you, we’ve got to get rid of these fools. I’m telling you, at all costs, call at 303-477-5600. All right, so if you…
SPEAKER 06 :
If you discipline your kid and he comes back and does the same thing, do you just stop disciplining him?
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, this is a totally different story. Yes, because what you’ve done in the past is totally different. Get Iran to hate your guts. You saw the videos. Death to America. This is before this is all occurred. How much do they hate you now? How much is their blood boiling to get you?
SPEAKER 06 :
Your opinion of me is none of my business. There’s always going to be people that hate you.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 03 :
But so before you go, he does any country hate America more than Middle Eastern countries?
SPEAKER 11 :
Not more than Iran. Not to my knowledge. I don’t know about that. But to second what Brian was saying, I do believe that like, you know, every war that has happened in the Middle East and we’ve been involved in is only emboldened them to become a more formidable, formidable foe. Yeah. How the Iraq? Well, I’ll tell you. Afghanistan. Like I was telling you, here’s one of the things, obviously, because I’m not sure about all you guys, but obviously we have divided information that is being shared with us when we watch things like TikTok and YouTube and whatever. And if we’re right leaning, we’re going to see right leaning. If we’re left leaning, we’re going to see left leaning. But the things that I’ve been seeing, I guess are left leaning, is that Iran has been utilizing a bunch of like drones, man, that are like $20,000 or $50,000. And while that sounds like a lot, that’s not very much in comparison to the Patriot missile and the NAD missile. Is it a NAD missile?
SPEAKER 06 :
How much is a Patriot missile? A million.
SPEAKER 11 :
Each one of them is a million dollars. And you know how many it takes to take down one of those $20,000 or $50,000 drones? It takes about three. $3 million is being spent every time they send a $20,000 drone over, man. Now, believe me, they did that for a specific reason. They did that because it’s crippling the U.S. economy by getting us into a deficit. It’s a battle of like, hey, big bank take little bank, man, is what it is. It’s a battle of like, you know, you can never win against that.
SPEAKER 03 :
And people, if you know more than us, call at 303-477-5600. We’d love to hear your opinions.
SPEAKER 11 :
And one other thing, one other tidbit of information I gained from this was that they duped the U.S. satellite missiles and stuff to the tune of like $5 million or better because what they did was on an airstrip they painted shadows of aircraft like – F-14s, the Iranians did. They painted aircraft and we shot missiles down to just like the ground. It was paint. We blew up paint. It cost $5 million. Is that true? Yeah. Well, from the liberal stance.
SPEAKER 03 :
Does war ever, does anything good ever come from war? I think what’s happening from this can be good, but you guys think it’s a bad thing.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, there’s two sides to it. War is ugly. I mean, it’s, you know, people die in the most gruesome ways in war. But the end result, is it necessary? Like, will we get the same results without it? Like, what’s another option?
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, I mean, I agree with what’s going on if they succeed, right? I don’t want to hear down the road that it didn’t accomplish, you know, what they were set out to do and we’re back at it again.
SPEAKER 03 :
How would the greatest nation on the planet not succeed? I mean, you know what I’m saying? We have the greatest military on the planet.
SPEAKER 11 :
Let’s use Israel as a nation in God’s chosen people and how many times were they told to decimate their enemy, and they didn’t. They took them captive. They took them home. They took them with them, and they went against God, and then that just didn’t kill the sin or whatever.
SPEAKER 03 :
Here’s a question for you guys. Do you think if America was not present, all these countries would have already attacked Israel? Because I’m a strong believer that America holds back judgment. Because we have people who are praying right now. We have missionaries around the world, whether it’s apostolic, Catholics, Baptists, whatever it is. There’s somebody crying out to the Lord to protect Israel. So I wonder if America was not present, would Israel even still be here today? That’s a good question.
SPEAKER 06 :
I don’t think they would, but that’s going along the lines of Bible prophecy, why we’re attached to Israel.
SPEAKER 11 :
But see, therein lies the thing, man. And there’s this guy, James Tallarico from Texas, which I really like because the guy is faith forward. Like he’s all about Jesus. And one of the things that he stated, and I stated this in one of our conversations time past, was the worse than tyrannical regime is one that believes they’re on a mission from God. So when you have somebody who believes that they’re on a mission from God, and that goes for us too as America, just as we can, like, villainize anybody who has another faith and belief in another country, and we think that that fundamentalism that they have is detrimental to others, we could be the same, man. We could believe so much that we’ve got manifest destiny and we need to move forward and, like, scout people. I don’t know. I’m a bleeding heart, man.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, on that note, why do you think there’s so many countries hate America? Why? I mean, when you look at what America does, it seems like we’re sending food over countries. It seems like when your country needs weapons, we help them. When your country needs money, we help them.
SPEAKER 06 :
They’re jealous.
SPEAKER 03 :
Wow.
SPEAKER 12 :
Wow.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, I think a lot.
SPEAKER 12 :
And that has to do with being free for sure. A lot has to do with, you know, we’re free. You know, we’re one of the greatest countries in the world. And people are seriously jealous of that.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, I agree with you. I mean, maybe there’s that because we are pretty free. We do have freedom of speech. We can all come from different ideologies, thoughts, and everything like that.
SPEAKER 06 :
And where do people talk about their striving to get to America for their American dream or what they don’t realize is the American nightmare? But a lot of people are striving to get to America for a better way of life.
SPEAKER 03 :
And call at 303-477-5600 and you can talk to us. I truly believe, but that’s me, that… If America wasn’t present on this planet, I think Israel would have been annihilated a long time ago. I also believe that the reason why people hate America is, like y’all said, we have freedom and we’re a God-fearing country. And I think they hate that stuff. And that you support Israel. Oh, that’s a huge one, dude. Oh, for sure. That’s I think I think we’re because I don’t understand. I understand we’re bombing to take care of their nuclear power, but I don’t understand why Israel’s bombing them. If I was America, I would say, listen, these people hate you. Stay out of it. What will handle it? But for some reason, Israel, anytime we bomb something, Israel jumps in and I can’t. That’s the part I can’t figure out. And I don’t think that that’s the way it’s supposed to be. Here’s the only problem I have with what’s happening in Iran is that Israel has jumped in. Now it’s two countries versus one. You know what I’m saying? That, to me, makes no sense. We can handle Iran all by ourselves. We don’t need Israel’s help.
SPEAKER 11 :
But wasn’t it the other way around, though? I mean, obviously, it’s the ongoing holy war that’s been between Israel and Palestine, and we’ve been the ones to get involved. Yet again, while there’s a war going on between Israel and Palestine, and there’s all these people flying flags in here and choosing sides, then all of a sudden, America, the big policeman that we are, gets involved.
SPEAKER 06 :
Will that war ever end? Because it’s been going on since Ishmael.
SPEAKER 03 :
And that war is probably never going to end. But you’re asking a good question. Why is that any time Israel goes to war, America jumps in? Like, that’s the part I don’t understand. Or if we go to war, Israel jumps in. Like, I don’t understand it.
SPEAKER 11 :
Maybe that’s like an ally. I mean, if any one of us are getting in a fight on the street, guaranteed I’m jumping in.
SPEAKER 03 :
No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, for sure, for sure. But I think if it’s just America bombing Iran, everybody stays out. But when Israel starts dropping bombs, I think that’s when it escalates to a whole new level because those people can’t stand each other. So that’s – and listen, people, if somebody knows why Israel is helping us because we don’t need their help, call in.
SPEAKER 11 :
Or why we’re helping them.
SPEAKER 03 :
I see why we’re helping them.
SPEAKER 06 :
What? I think it’s Bible prophecy. It’s in the scriptures. End times?
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, because isn’t there a scripture that says, He that blesses my people will be blessed, and them that curse my people will be cursed? That’s probably the reason why they’re having all kinds of problems over there, dude. You know?
SPEAKER 06 :
The eagle’s wings, which represents America.
SPEAKER 03 :
Right. I just… I don’t know for, for me, I I’m, I’m completely for Trump. I think Trump needed to do what he does. Just like you said at the first show, we need to make sure our planet is safe. The only thing I can’t figure out is why Israel has to jump in on every single conflict America jumps into. Again, makes no sense.
SPEAKER 11 :
I mean, I’ve got a hypothesis, and it’s that Christian nationalism, believing in God and Israel and trying to help them through the Bible and stuff, that America is trying to usher in the rapture or the second coming of Christ, and that Israel, the Jews, they’re involved in the fight because they want to prove that Jesus ain’t. I mean, it’s just a hypothesis.
SPEAKER 03 :
No. Yeah. No, for sure. I mean, I just listen. You guys know my belief. Like, I don’t believe we’re ever going to see a world war in our lifetime. That’s me. I also don’t believe we’re going to see the rapture in our lifetime. That’s me. But I do believe I do believe. That when Israel jumps in on other countries that can’t stand them, it causes those countries to hate us more.
SPEAKER 11 :
Am I a jerk if I want to make a bet with you that we’re going to war?
SPEAKER 03 :
Oh, no, no, no, no, no.
SPEAKER 11 :
I’ll bet you a hundred bucks we’re going to go to war.
SPEAKER 03 :
No, and in our lifetime, I would take that bet because I don’t believe we’re going to see a world war.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, and now we have something, or at least I have something to go off of, which is the declaration of war only makes it war. So I would bet you $100 that there’s going to be a declaration of war.
SPEAKER 03 :
You think Congress is going to – hold on, hold on. Let’s solidify this. Are you saying Iran, you think Congress is going to declare war?
SPEAKER 11 :
I’m going to say yes.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay. A hundred bucks? How’s it going, Doug? Talk to us. How’s it going?
SPEAKER 09 :
Doing good. Doing well. You guys need a lot of more information on several topics, but Israel Jumps In is involved because they’ve had people in Iran for years. Iranians, the mullahs in charge, are different. They were installed by the British and some other… back in the 70s, and they’ve been wreaking havoc ever since, the Persian people that actually live there don’t want to live the way they have been since the 70s. And Israel has infiltrated it. The Iranian mullahs put together a committee to find out all the Israel infiltrators in the country. Yeah. Yeah, that was wild. Yeah. It’s no more complicated than that.
SPEAKER 03 :
Let me ask you this, Doug. Do you think if America was not around that these other countries would have already bombed Israel?
SPEAKER 09 :
Oh, yeah. Israel would have ceased to exist a very long time ago.
SPEAKER 11 :
Doug, I have a question, too. Thank you so much, man.
SPEAKER 09 :
And there probably wouldn’t be a Jew left anywhere in the region.
SPEAKER 11 :
Wow.
SPEAKER 09 :
Wow.
SPEAKER 11 :
I have a question, too. What transpired in the 70s that changed everything in the Middle East?
SPEAKER 09 :
The British and others fomented the revolution in Iran. Yeah, it was Iran then. They’d already changed their name from Persia because of some lust for Iran, like Aryan, Aryan nation. They changed their name to Iran. But then the British and others fomented this revolution and then installed the mullahs and the Shah and have the mess that we got now.
SPEAKER 12 :
Oh, quick question, Doug. So you support what America’s doing?
SPEAKER 09 :
Absolutely. It has to happen.
SPEAKER 12 :
I agree with Doug.
SPEAKER 11 :
It has to happen. I agree 100%. Doug, do you want to take that bet with me, man, on the $100 that we’re going to go to World War III?
SPEAKER 03 :
Congress is not declaring war, man.
SPEAKER 11 :
No.
SPEAKER 03 :
No, it won’t be three. Thank you, Doug. Thank you for calling. That was an excellent call. Yeah. And anybody else who wants to chime in at 303-477-5600, phone lines are open. Give us a call.
SPEAKER 12 :
Guys, this all goes back to October 7th. I don’t care what anybody says. They killed so many civilians. It was the worst day in Israel since the Holocaust. I mean, think how bad that must be.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, I just wanted to say that was a really good call. He had a lot of good information.
SPEAKER 11 :
He did. Yeah, thanks, Doug.
SPEAKER 03 :
And I love when people call and say, we need more information, because we do. We don’t know everything. We only go off of what we can research. We want to say thank you for all of our military here in America. America is the greatest country in the world. But, Brian, I still think I don’t think that’s the reason we’re taking them out. I think we do not want them to have nuclear power because if they do, I believe that an unstable individual, like you said the first show, if you put somebody who’s got a mental illness with a gun, That’s probably a bad day for everybody depending on the gun they got. I mean, look at men that kill their wives and their children or ladies that go into a mall and shoot people. When you’re mentally unstable. The school shootings. Yeah, you’re going to jack something up. And like you said, if you get a weapon of mass destruction, you’re probably going to target people that you don’t like. And these countries don’t like America.
SPEAKER 11 :
I got a zinger of a question, a left field question. Don’t we, obviously we like our guns in America, so you don’t really want to determine who gets a gun or doesn’t get a gun. So why do we need to determine who gets a weapon of mass destruction or not a weapon of mass destruction?
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, because you said it.
SPEAKER 11 :
It’s a big, big gun.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, because you said it yourself. If somebody’s unstable and they take that weapon, they’re not just turning around killing one home. They’re going to annihilate neighborhoods.
SPEAKER 11 :
Right, but we don’t screen people for guns and stuff.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, we do. Because online, you can’t tell that. When somebody orders a weapon online, you go off the information they give you. But I see what you’re asking.
SPEAKER 11 :
My only point is being that it’s a little bit incongruent for somebody to think that, oh, well, everybody should have these, but then determine who shouldn’t.
SPEAKER 03 :
I think without a check and balance, and this is me, without a check and balance, a country should not have a weapon of mass destruction unless there’s a board of people that have some kind of common sense. I maybe I’m wrong, but you know what I’m saying? I think like America, you have the Congress.
SPEAKER 12 :
Why did you determine they don’t, they don’t have any common sense. What, what, how did you come to this? This is how I came to the conclusion. Your theory is they can’t have a nuclear weapon, nuclear weapon, because they have no common sense. What brought you to that idea?
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, we, I’m going to tell you what brought me to that idea is a simple fact that you can hear them chant death to America. We hate America. At that point, they are our enemies. They’re not sitting back showing the emoji of heart to us, that’s for sure. I mean, those people want to drop bombs on us. At the end of the day, that hatred runs deep for America. And if you and that’s the reason why I’m saying they don’t have any common sense. Like I said, Long Jong-un or whatever that fool’s name is. Kim Jong-un. Kim Jong-un. Like, why does that guy have a nuclear weapon? And at this point, he’s got one. So we can’t stop him. Why didn’t you go? Oh, I mean, you see what I’m saying? We can’t stop him. But Trump tried. Trump. Trump tried. You didn’t go attack North Korea. Trump tried. Many, many, many times in his first presidency, he turned around and said, we need to stop this guy from having that stuff. But now he’s got it, so there ain’t nothing you can do about it. I’ll tell you what’s the bomb, man. Korean food. There’s some just up the street here. Okay, we’re going to say goodbye on that one, and we’ll see you all next week. That’s the bomb. Bye.
SPEAKER 05 :
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