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On this week’s episode of A Guy’s Perspective, the conversation goes big—global big. The show opens with the raw honesty of “What It’s Like to Be a Man,” then launches straight into a deep dive on war, dictators, and why conflict keeps surfacing throughout history. From Hitler to Attila the Hun, from Pharaoh to modern extremists, the guys unpack motives, mindsets, and what drives people to seize power.
The discussion moves fast: America’s nuclear arsenal, “peace through strength,” whether military force prevents bigger disasters, and why callers believe America is still a stabilizing force in a divided world. A Vietnam
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I can’t hide myself I don’t expect you to understand I just hope I can explain What it’s like to be a man It’s a lonely road And they don’t care about what you know It’s not about how you feel But what you provide inside that home
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is what you make it you can’t always live up to expectations you try to please everybody while you struggle so you fake it and end up out of balance compromising
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Welcome to A Guy’s Perspective, where they discuss real-life topics that men today are dealing with, whether married, single parent, or just single. We invite you to call into this live program with your comments and questions. And here they are.
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How’s everybody doing today? This is KLZ 560 AM. This is The Guy’s Perspective. You can always reach us at 303-477-5600. Say that one more time, 303-477-5600. The upper room today at about 3.30 or 3 o’clock is having kind of like a taste of Colorado where they’re doing ribs and other things. So we’d encourage our listeners to head on over there and join in on that. I think it’d be fun. And another thing, it’s the holiday season, so – We want to mention to everybody, you know, this month is Thanksgiving. So find somebody and tell them, you know, what you’re thankful for. You know, I think that would go a long ways. And let’s go around the room, introduce ourselves. And Reno had something to say.
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Well, they need to know where to go to the Upper Rome. It’s 1001 South Pearl Street.
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Thank you. I guess I didn’t say the address. In Denver. In Denver. And remember, it’s like 330 to, I don’t know, 5 or 6, something like that.
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We’ll get some of them barbecue Adam’s ribs.
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I’m telling you right there. Well, let’s talk about it. So we’re going to talk about that intercontinental ballistic missile that – Trump, you know, was, was testing out. It was just, but before we get into that, like what, what is it about war that like, like, like there’s, there’s been dictators throughout history that all they want to do is go to war. What is up with that? Let’s let’s start with Hitler. Let’s let’s start with Hitler, man. Was he crazy or did he just have an agenda?
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What was his agenda?
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To take over the planet is what it seemed like.
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Probably Attila the Hun, the same. Caesar. Yeah. Who else? All those guys.
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Pharaohs of old? Pharaohs. I think all those guys, either they had a mindset that steered them in a direction that they’re going to take over the whole entire world, or they were wackos. Who knows what it was?
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Well, there’s the two. I mean, the tale of the Hun, that one was he said something to the effect of I’m the wrath of God put upon you. So as though it was invoked by God and also like Pharaoh thought he was God. Think about that. That’s amazing. So some of these people, actually, I think a lot of them are insane. They thought God was telling them to do this stuff.
SPEAKER 05 :
No, you’re probably right.
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You’ve got to be careful which God you serve, people.
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These people probably honestly thought God was telling them to wipe out a bunch of people. Like, it’s crazy.
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Yeah.
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I mean, like, you’ve got just extremist people that think that they’re doing something good for their religion, and I don’t believe they are.
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Yeah.
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I mean, but then again.
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Didn’t you just read, though, a minute ago that most of these wars are not money, and it’s not religion, it’s not faith? What is it?
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It was over land. Like a lot of wars that are happening is land-based. I mean, think about America. There was a mass genocide on Indians for what? Land. We took their land, period.
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You want to bring that up around Thanksgiving? No, no. I didn’t think about that, bro. Manifest destiny. Happy Thanksgiving.
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But I guess getting back to what our topic is, I think people should really be thankful America is here. And this is my opinion. I have no way to back this up. I just believe that if it wasn’t for the troops of America, God sent troops because America is God sent to the world. The world would be in trouble without America.
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But there’s that danger again, man, is everybody thinks that, you know, the side they’re on is right, man. I’m sure Bloods think they’re right and Crips think they’re right.
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Well, he may be making a good point right there.
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Everybody, yeah. Well, you better believe in the side you’re on.
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But it doesn’t matter. Well, I mean, when the people who blow themselves up, they they’re doing it for uh for a cause like they’re they’re going to be rewarded for for their sacrifice so they believe they’re they’re right and they’re doing what what they believe is right right and we think those type of people are crazy but they think they’re doing right like absolute resolve they’ve they’ve come to the conclusion that that is what they want want to do
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So that brings into the point that I’m going to make. It’s America, at least from what I read and from everything I read, they’ve got 3,000 nuclear bombs. What is the point of that? What’s the point of having weapons of mass destruction like that that could end all civilization?
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Good offense is a good defense?
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That’s a good point.
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The best offense is a good defense?
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He’s probably right right there.
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It’s kind of like somebody carrying a gun or having a gun to protect their household. They don’t necessarily want to use it. Who said this? Christian Slater. I like what he said in True Romance. He said, it’s better to have a gun and not need it than to need a gun and not have it.
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Hmm. Because I honestly because no, no, no, no. Honestly, I think about it all the time. Like there’s crazy people in this world. If you do not have something, a weapon of some sort to protect your home or protect your nation, people would take advantage of you.
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So there’s there’s people that think Christians are absolutely bananas.
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That they’re the far right. I think fundamental on any side is a problem. Sometimes when something’s really fundamental and far left, far right, those are the crazies.
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Because you know what’s amazing? Ronald Reagan said peace through strength. Sometimes the only way that a conflict can be resolved is is through strength of arms or through a conflict. I hate to say it.
SPEAKER 09 :
That’s a good point. That is a very good point. No one’s going to mess with the, you know, most people won’t mess with the biggest guy.
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Yeah.
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Right. With the most muscles.
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Right.
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They’re going to take on the smaller.
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Right. You said it, Truman. Did he say walk softly and carry a big nuclear warhead?
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No, but I mean, if you think about it, because I truly, truly, people listen, I truly believe America is God sent. I think the globe would be in trouble without America.
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Do you guys disagree with that? I agree with you, but I also think the Muslims think that way about them, the different religions and the different, People of the world, they think that about themselves.
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What do you think, Heath? I don’t know, man. I’m a little more about the Trey Parker and Matt Stones. What’s it called? Didn’t they have like something America?
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah. Yeah, but… It was Team America. Thank you, voice from the sky, Charlie. Right on, Charlie.
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Team America, where, like, you know, all we’re doing is just going about getting involved in business that we don’t need to be involved with, and it ends in this unnecessary fallout. I think Vietnam is probably one of those leading examples, but, I mean, I’m not a war buff either, so I don’t really dive in. I think sometimes we meddle, but I think sometimes we help.
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So you think America should just stay out of people’s business? Like, okay, and if anybody knows more than us, call at 303-477-5600. I think what America does by setting up military bases around the globe and things like that, I think that’s a good thing. Some people think it’s a bad thing. I mean, I personally, and so, okay, let’s talk about this. So, an inter-ballistic missile could get from America to Russia in 30 minutes, dude. Think about that. Like, I think, I personally feel and believe that because America has the arsenal we have, it stops wars across the globe. I kind of feel a little upset, man.
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I mean, I was just on a United flight and it took me like…
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three hours to get to texas true true come on put me on that ballistic missile but i mean if you think about it like i get war has been a part of history every nation every country the whole nine yards but i just feel like if it wasn’t for america the globe would be in a bad situation I personally believe America sends out the gospel and tells the world about Jesus more than any other country on the planet.
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I’d have to agree with you.
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You guys think so? I mean, think about it. I think every country on the planet wants to be like America. I think they want to trade with America. I think they want to live like Americans. I think they want to make money like Americans.
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The American dream. Are we still in the lead position, power of the world? Are we the superpower of the world still?
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That I don’t know. I mean, could it be between us or China or Russia, one of those three guys? That’s usually what it’s been about. Probably. I mean, but I would rather live in America than China or Russia. Yeah.
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I don’t know what it’s like to live over those places. I think one of the only ways that we could get a broader perspective is to travel for us to experience some other life and existence outside of the U.S. So that we could either be… Enlightened. You’re making a good point. Either enlightened or we could be reminded of how grateful we should be for our country and what we have.
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I’ve done that, and I really appreciate the U.S. Where you been, man? of the philippines is it completely different in the philippines than it is here in america it’s different um especially when they shut off the water at 7 00 a.m and you have to take a shower with the bucket and a pail oh so they shut it off for everybody no no no it was just in the housing development we were in they were doing some type of construction When you’re there, you have to live like wherever you went. You have to live like there. You’re not in a four-star hotel. I was in six weeks living with my wife’s family.
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Yeah. It’s a tough place. I’ve been to Mexico a few times.
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Oh, I bet Mexico is completely different than America.
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I’ve been to Juarez. I’ve been to some of the nicer places. But, man, San Felipe and Juarez, those are pretty hard, man. Yeah.
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Yeah, so it makes you really think about and appreciate America. Because I truly, guys, I’m telling you, I really believe that we take America for granted. I believe we take, and here’s the reason I’m going to say so. I believe we take our military for granted. And listen, people, us three guys, Heath, Reno, and me have never been in the military. So if somebody wants to call at 303-477-5600, we’d appreciate to hear from you. But I will say one thing for sure. When you have athletes… that kneel during the national anthem, that’s bull crap, dude. Especially because this country gives you the ability to make millions of dollars. And it’s not just athletes that do it, but people that burn the American flag, people that… You’re talking about like Kaepernick when he kneeled.
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It was a whole different thing, though.
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Yeah, no, no, no, no, no. Hold on. I get the injustice part.
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There was a disrespect of the country.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, it’s a disrespect to the country.
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But he was kind of like holding it hostage for the tyranny.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, there’s two different instances. Okay. So Kaepernick nailed it. during the national anthem, and he got pretty much blackballed from the league. Tim Tebow nailed during the national anthem in protest of abortion, and he was penalized but he wasn’t penalized at all he was kind of martyred like he was held so it’s a difference it’s a different standard for depending on your reason for kneeling so no i don’t agree with kneeling for the national anthem for any reason you know use use a different platform
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Right. That’s huge. Let me lay this on you. What’s worse, man? We get out of school and then we stop doing Pledge of Allegiance. I don’t wake up and do the Pledge of Allegiance every day.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, they don’t do it in school anymore either.
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Right. But point being is what’s worse, kneeling and partaking at the same time or not even partaking at all?
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Oh, I’d rather somebody not partake than to turn around and burn the American flag on national TV in front of the whole entire world to see. I didn’t say burn the flag. Or even yield. If you look at it, if you take these athletes. I know this is controversial and people calling at 303-477-5600. We’re dropping bombs here now. That’s what I’m saying. Think of how controversial it is because some people believe that police brutality and the injustice that’s happening to them here in America, that’s the reason they’re doing it. But in the same sense… Those stripes on that flag represent something. There are men and women who died so that people can have the opportunity to even deal with it.
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13 stripes, 13 colonies.
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They’re using a platform. They’re using their platform of the NFL or the NBA, whatever it may be. And they’re being paid by the league. So I don’t believe that’s the right platform for any of that. Just Neil doing the national anthem, I don’t think that’s. I think it’s the wrong platform to protest.
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Well, what about, and I agree with you, what about the backlash of anybody who is part of something, but they can’t speak their mind during it, but then they have something like Facebook, their own personal thing, and then they get backlash because they spoke their mind.
SPEAKER 09 :
Because they’re a part of the NFL or NBA? Is that what you’re talking about?
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, yeah. Say there’s a teacher, and she or he says something inflammatory on social media, and then they lose their job because they said that. now the problem is you’re impeding on people’s personal life so if they don’t use their platform where they’re at to say what they want then where can they say it then is there really freedom of speech right
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Oh, my God.
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We’re really like, no, seriously, this is real. Because this is the state America is in right now. Just division. And I believe America is sent by God for this whole planet. But the division of America is so massive. And it’s not just athletes that are protesting this stuff. There’s campuses. Look at what happened to Charlie. He was speaking his mind, and the dude got assassinated. And I don’t care what anybody says. That was an assassination on a dude who believed what he believed.
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Where’s the source of the division? Who’s dividing us? Oh, my God. That is deep. What is it? No, no, no.
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You’re asking a good question.
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I got my opinion. Well, my opinion is it’s the media. It’s not Democrat. It’s not Republican. It’s media. It’s media.
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Misinformation.
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But who’s driving the media?
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What’s the agenda? This is really good. People call out 303-477-5600. Reno’s really hitting on something. What’s really driving the division?
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So what do you think it is?
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I’m with you guys. I think it’s the media, dude.
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I think media is taking things… What’s behind the…
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Politics?
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Money.
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Money?
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Money. It’s all money.
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But if you think about it, what does the Bible say? The love of money is root of all. It doesn’t say money.
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It says the love of it. Myself, I think what drives the division in most cases, and this will probably tie back to war and taking over land, if you think that the mind is being a land cultivated or fought for. oh my god if our minds are being cultivated and fought for then they cause division and divide and conquer and it’s it’s um it’s the cultural hypnotic societal mechanism that is like leading us uh astray so that we are so twisted up that we can’t we can’t like uh join forces and arms and unite so we can’t be together oh a reno let let
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What do you think about that? Because he’s making a good point about the mind, man.
SPEAKER 09 :
I believe it changes with the time, like times and seasons. So I think the agendas change.
SPEAKER 05 :
Because you made an interesting point I never thought about. Is college cultivating our minds in a way that causes us to look at things in division?
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Yeah, all the way down to preschool, man. i i mean that’s that’s yeah it does and i’m not trying to like really attack like school systems and stuff but the thing is that you got to be careful little mind or little ears what you hear and little eyes what you see and how we get you know manipulated what are what was school for anyway is is to make little robots ah wow you’re absolutely right hey hey hey michael how’s it going
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Good. Thank you for taking my call. Yeah, tell us. So I’m a 78-year-old combat Vietnam veteran.
SPEAKER 05 :
Hey, man, thank you for your service. We appreciate that.
SPEAKER 10 :
I just left a barbecue in Greeley for the Thai Plains Honor Flight where they took a plane load of us veterans. There was 125 Vietnam vets. Wow. Korean vets. And they took us to Washington, D.C. in September. But if you want to see patriotism, it was all in that room. And there was a couple hundred people there. But I thank you that you’re honoring us vets.
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Yes, yes, indeed.
SPEAKER 10 :
I tried calling… But I couldn’t. You rattled off the phone number so fast.
SPEAKER 05 :
Oh, sorry.
SPEAKER 10 :
We’re sorry about that. It took me three times before I got it all dialed in. So, anyway, first of all, I appreciate a lot of the conversation. You were talking to a Filipino. I was in Longapote during Vietnam. Wow. Salamat, by the way, to your friend, Kamisas.
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Wow.
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And then… And then, but yeah, America is great. I’m a Christian, I think, and I hung a Charlie Kirk flag on my house. Wow, that is powerful. And just to annoy my neighbor, who happens to be the Colorado Secretary of State, Jenna Griswold.
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No way.
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Yes way.
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Oh my goodness.
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So she’s a Marxist. And of course, I put up, I just had a flagpole, a proper one, 20 foot, that I could raise and erect. I did that for Charlie Kirk’s birthday. And now for Veterans Day, I have all the armed forces flags and everything. But of course, you know, during the elections, when she was trying to keep, you know, claiming that Trump was a threat to democracy, well, keeping Trump off, a ballot is a threat to democracy.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yes, sir. Thank you for saying that. Michael, hold on. Thank you for saying that over the air, man. That is huge what you just said.
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Yeah. I mean, that’s what Marxists do. And then, of course, I put up all my Trump flags on that time frame. But after we won, I was gracious enough to take my Trump flag down, you know, because you don’t want to pour salt in their wounds. But this thing that just happened in New York with the communists, the Muslim communists. It’s got a lot of my friends just fit to be tied.
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Thank you. Thank you for calling, man. And we salute you and we thank you for your service. Thank you so much, man. We have two minutes left and then we’re going into the second half. Thank you for calling. That was an amazing call right there, dude. That’s… Dude, if you’re a part of the military, I don’t care what nobody says. Our military… is God sent because I really believe, and we’ll get back to what you said with your mind, I really believe that if America’s military was not on this planet, there would be some bad stuff that would happen to us, dude. I really think God set America up for this time.
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Well, you can certainly tie back to World War II with Hitler and our involvement. Yes. Yes. Had to stop that.
SPEAKER 05 :
Had to stop that. Because what happens if America doesn’t get involved? you know what i’m saying like it really makes you history would be written different okay because you said you said the the land is being taken in our mind absolutely that that thing and you said college is trying to make us into robots trying to cultivate our mind the school system
SPEAKER 09 :
Gotcha. So they want workers. They don’t want self thinkers. They want followers.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 09 :
Hmm. So you don’t, you don’t really get into like financial literacy and, and anything like that until secondary or, um, you know, collegiate.
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Right.
SPEAKER 09 :
You have those classes. I believe all that stuff should be taught from elementary. Wow. Cause that’s really your foundation.
SPEAKER 05 :
God, you hear what you two dudes are saying? Like, we’ve never talked about this on this show before, dude. You guys are going deep right now. Like, that’s some psychology stuff.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, it is. It is. It’s one of the, I don’t know if it’s the final frontier for them to capture our minds. Oh, my God. But it’s certainly the present frontier.
SPEAKER 05 :
And we’ve got one more minute left, people, and so catch us on the other side. And just like the gentleman said, I need to slow down giving the phone number. So on the other side, it’s 303-477-5600. What he said was powerful. He’d been in the military for years. He sent them out to Washington, D.C., like,
SPEAKER 06 :
He’s 78 years old and they put up some Charlie Kirk flags.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, you’ve got to chip your hat to me like that.
SPEAKER 06 :
Just to upset Janet Griswold.
SPEAKER 05 :
That’s some patriotism stuff right there, man. And I guarantee that gentleman, he did it right for America. And people like that are God sent, man. You know what I’m saying? It takes a lot to join our military. And so people, we’ll catch you on the other side. Thank you for listening. And number is 303-477-5600. We’ll get back to it.
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I can’t hide myself. I don’t expect you to understand. I just hope I can explain what it’s like to be a man. It’s a lonely road. And they don’t care about me.
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I can’t hide myself. I don’t expect you to understand. I just hope I can explain what it’s like to be a man. It’s a lonely road.
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and they don’t care about what you know it’s not about how you feel but what you provide inside that home welcome to a guy’s perspective where they discuss real life topics that men today are dealing with whether married single parent or just single we invite you to call into this live program with your comments and questions and here they are
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How’s everybody doing today? This is KOZ 560 AM. We’re The Guys Perspective. This is the second half of the show. We want to thank every veteran that’s out there. We want to thank every military person here in America. We were talking on the first half about how um america’s god sent and and the gentleman said i need to slow down giving the phone number so i’m gonna say it slow 303-477-5600 let’s go around the room and introduce ourselves um reno a local business owner
SPEAKER 06 :
This is Heath Hine, Clearview Windshield Repair, Replace, Calibration, and we started doing tint too, guys. We can tint like windows.
SPEAKER 05 :
Nice. Yeah. So give these guys a call. First half, we were talking about that. Um, that intercontinental ballistic missile testing that Trump did. And so that kind of started us off. And, um, I I’m a firm believer that because America and our military’s here, it holds back a lot of the garbage that other countries would try to do to this planet. Let’s dive back into it, guys. What do you all think?
SPEAKER 06 :
I know I’m always all over the place with my thought process and such, but one thing I can say is there’s not been much war brought to our country because of our military. Obviously, there’s Pearl Harbor and there’s Oklahoma, which I don’t even know if that was outside, but then there was the towers, right? Yeah. So those two things on the two coasts. But for the most part, man, we’ve defended or at least staved off any war. Except for, what’s up, Arena?
SPEAKER 05 :
No, no, no. You brought up a good point. What do you guys think was worse? Pearl Harbor sneak attacking us or the Twin Towers? I mean, because both were really, really bad.
SPEAKER 09 :
I have a hard time believing the Twin Towers with all the thermite that was found. Oh, you think it’s an inside job, huh? The buildings were pulled, but how long does it take the engineer to pull a building to have it collapse on itself in the way that it did? Even Building 7, no plane debris at the Pentagon. Of course, I wasn’t there firsthand, so I wouldn’t know, but How long do you think it takes to pull a building?
SPEAKER 05 :
Wow.
SPEAKER 09 :
Just to engineer it.
SPEAKER 05 :
So one of the guys on our show thinks it’s a conspiracy. I think it was a terrorist attack. And anybody who knows better than us, call it 303-477-5600. No, it’s funny what he’s saying because a lot of people believe that.
SPEAKER 06 :
And I was going to say that’s a valid point. It is a valid point. I might be misrepresenting saying, oh, well, we’ve defended ourselves against any attacks except for, say, for those two. But if it’s from inside, then you’re not really being attacked, are you? You are the attacker.
SPEAKER 09 :
Mmm. Mmm. So, okay, okay, well, let’s… Well, we went to war after that. There you go. We went to war after that. War… Not on American soil.
SPEAKER 06 :
Right.
SPEAKER 09 :
But we went to war after that, and war makes money. How’s it going? Tell us. Truth?
SPEAKER 15 :
Well… We are at war, actually. We’re not the type of war that you see people coming across the shore or anything like that. But we’re at war with our country, with politics. And the first shot has been fired over there in New York. Wow. That’s how they’re doing it. That’s how they’re coming out of it with a different direction.
SPEAKER 05 :
You’re saying from what’s-his-name getting elected, I want to say his name was Mami. What was that, Charlie? Mamadami.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, Mamadami. Yeah, those were the first shots right there.
SPEAKER 05 :
Wow, that’s deep. Think about what he did. Keep going.
SPEAKER 15 :
We are at war. They’re just not coming over with boats and stuff like that.
SPEAKER 05 :
That’s deep.
SPEAKER 06 :
No, because they’re being blown out of the water in Venezuela.
SPEAKER 05 :
Thanks for calling, buddy. Thank you. He’s making a good point. He’s saying the war’s not happening in a different country. It’s happening here by politics and what it’s doing to us. I mean, seriously, if we have enough money in America, I mean, Elon Musk is the richest dude in the world. Why is there people going hungry here in America? That’s a good question. That’s a very good question. Because they’ve revoked SNAP benefits. Well, yeah. No, no, no, no, no. I get all that. But the first half of the show, you guys were talking about the mine and it being attacked. And then we talked about the Twin Towers falling. And I believe it’s a terrorist thing. But if what you’re saying is true, if they’re attacking us from within, then is it trying to destroy the fabric of America? Because I think America is such a great nation, it protects the world. It’s almost like a hand that watches over people. You see what I’m saying? Because the caller just now, he was like, hey, the war is happening inside America. They’re not coming with boats and planes and things like that. They’re trying to destroy us from within. You know why?
SPEAKER 09 :
Why? Because that’s the only way they could get in is to sneak in.
SPEAKER 06 :
Sleepers out.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, you can’t come to any of our borders and invade because we’ll strike it down. So they have to sneak in and do it from within. That’s the only way you can get in is to sneak in.
SPEAKER 05 :
And if anybody knows more than us, call at 303-477-5600. I usually don’t because I generally talk like off of what I’m learning online and in school. But a scripture kind of came to me. What does it say? Like in order to spoil the house, you’ve got to bind the strong man or something like that. If anybody knows that scripture more than us, call at 303-477-5600. Isn’t that what the Bible says? Like you first got to bind up the strong man in order to take down his whole house. So if it’s an inside thing and they’re crippling the American people from inside, is it crippling our country and our military? That’s deep, dude. That’s a good question. Yeah, if we’re saying the Scripture wrong, we could very well be saying the Scripture wrong. You know what I’m saying? But it’s interesting.
SPEAKER 09 :
Isn’t that to Jesus’ return? Matthew 12, 29. What does it say? Or else how can one enter into a strong man’s house and spoil his goods, except he first bind the strong man?
SPEAKER 06 :
That’s deep. Contextually, Reno, isn’t that talking about the return of Christ?
SPEAKER 05 :
I don’t think so. I think it’s a parable or something like that, I think. But either way, it’s perfect for what we’re talking about. If you can cripple America, which I believe holds back all kind of bad crap on this planet, if you can take us down, then you take down a lot of stuff. it’s the words in red from jesus yeah so so i think i think he was talking like literally yeah like i mean think about your home if like if if they can tear down the strong person in a house i think they can take over the whole house same with a country if you take down you know their leader you can probably take over their country i would imagine and give us a call at 303-477-5600. That was wild that that even came to me, dude, in the middle of y’all talking about that.
SPEAKER 06 :
Scripture’s coming to you because you’re not wearing regular shoes. You showed up with sandals.
SPEAKER 05 :
But, I mean, so back to what we were talking about. If America’s got all these different nuclear bombs and other countries have nuclear bombs, what’s the point of it, dude, if you can destroy each other? And I truly believe… Then this is my feeling, and we’ll go back to you guys. If America wasn’t here, would this globe be a different globe?
SPEAKER 09 :
Absolutely.
SPEAKER 06 :
For better or for worse?
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, for better or worse.
SPEAKER 09 :
I’d say it’s hard to say because it’s not actual. I think it would probably be for worse.
SPEAKER 05 :
Why do you say that?
SPEAKER 09 :
Kind of the same things you were speaking on, what America provides, the military, the people want to come to America.
SPEAKER 06 :
For a hope, future.
SPEAKER 09 :
There’s other countries. People want to come and live in America. They want to be American. I mean, we’ve got people sneaking over the border all the time.
SPEAKER 06 :
They want to come to America. It’s a better way of life. Why don’t Canadians come over here?
SPEAKER 09 :
We’re trying to sneak to them.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, we do. We try to sneak to them for the health benefits.
SPEAKER 05 :
He just made a good point. A better way of life.
SPEAKER 06 :
America.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, guys, I and correct me if I’m wrong, but I think America is still. The the the the mat or the the format for what every other country wants to be like, dude. I mean, I mean, maybe I could be wrong. I mean, we’re still just a baby country, ain’t we? Well, to a certain extent, only two.
SPEAKER 09 :
I’d rather.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, what country would you rather live in than America? America.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, there’s not a country I’d rather live in than America. There’s countries I’d want to visit. For sure. Visit, for sure. America is my home. There’s not another country I’d want to live in.
SPEAKER 05 :
So you would never leave America?
SPEAKER 09 :
Now, there are certain things about other countries that I like, like… There’s places that don’t have health food stores because their food is already healthy. There’s no pesticides in their food naturally. They don’t have all the junk. They don’t have the high fructose corn syrup, the hydrogenated oils. They don’t have all of the stuff that we’re being fed here in America. So there’s a lot of things that I like about other countries, but as far as a whole, this is where I’d rather be.
SPEAKER 05 :
God, this is a good discussion, guys. Call at 303-477-5600. Why would you want to be in America over every other place on the planet if America is top picked?
SPEAKER 06 :
I mean, I certainly like my position of being in America and opportunity, land of opportunity, and built a business and found a wife and friends. I had a lot of freedom and opportunity. So, I mean, I like it. I like America.
SPEAKER 05 :
Would you ever leave? If you had the option to live in, like, Dubai, would you leave?
SPEAKER 06 :
No, I mean, I don’t think I’d live.
SPEAKER 09 :
I don’t think you could become a citizen of Dubai. Gotcha.
SPEAKER 06 :
No.
SPEAKER 09 :
From the outside. Yeah. I could be wrong.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, I don’t know. I never thought about it.
SPEAKER 09 :
I don’t think they would allow it. I am not a hundred percent.
SPEAKER 05 :
So, so let me, cause, cause for me, I think America is great in any, every way, shape and form. And I, I ain’t trying to ever live any place else. I’m like arena. I’d like to visit, but what would be the one thing that you could change if you could change anything about America?
SPEAKER 09 :
No, absolutely. Let’s hear it. Absolutely. The food processes, the stuff that they make available to you in grocery stores, you got to pay. If you want organic, you got to pay, you know, maybe not double, but, you know, might as well be twice as much.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right.
SPEAKER 09 :
You go organic, your grocery bill is going up. Right. But that would be our food supply. What about you?
SPEAKER 06 :
I could top that. Okay. If I could change any one thing about America, it would be about the division that we have, division in all capacities.
SPEAKER 05 :
God, that is deep.
SPEAKER 06 :
That’s what I don’t like.
SPEAKER 05 :
So let me ask you this. It’s because of the division that we have in America and on the planet, do you think that’s the reason we have so many nuclear warheads?
SPEAKER 06 :
Because of the division?
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah. Because you see what I’m saying? The whole world seems to be divided. And I truly believe because of America, there’s some kind of stability. If you got rid of America, I think it would be mass chaos. But that’s me, though.
SPEAKER 06 :
You know, I mean, back to what you were saying at the beginning, most most war is obviously prosperity, but it’s for land acquisition of land, takeover of land and stuff. And then there’s sometimes soft takers, overs, man, like the European Union and what I believe is going to be the North American Union. Why do you believe that? Oh, I think that’s going to happen. They’re going to open borders north and south. It’s just going to be a North American union.
SPEAKER 05 :
So you think probably – do you think that’s going to happen in the next 50, 60, 70 years, 80, 100 years? Yeah, probably. Because you’re probably – you’re not going to see that in your lifetime. Oh, my God. We are getting deep, dude.
SPEAKER 06 :
This is a good topic. They usually unveil it when there’s like a – like the euro is the dollar. The euro is the euro. For sure. Which is for – the European Union. Right. Which is a lot of country, right?
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, so I guess on, because you’re making a good point, I guess it comes down to in order for them to do that, is cryptocurrency going to take everything over?
SPEAKER 06 :
There’d have to be a one world order.
SPEAKER 05 :
So like a one, would there be a one world military then at that point?
SPEAKER 06 :
One dollar, or a dollar.
SPEAKER 05 :
One currency.
SPEAKER 06 :
Measure of currency, yeah.
SPEAKER 05 :
Because if you have a one world order, this is the thing I don’t understand. If you have a one world order, do you have a one world military to keep that in order? Is it just a one world currency? And if anybody knows more, call out 303-477-5600. But if it’s all united, then what would they have war with? would they have war with that that’s what i’m saying so it god this is i wish we had another hour on this man if you’re all one body then like you know you’d poke your other appendage well but now you’re bringing up like the whole mark of the beast stuff because if there’s one world order and one world government don’t you have to have a one world military too
SPEAKER 06 :
Some, I guess, would say, well, some believers would probably say something like the UN is demonic, satanic, or what.
SPEAKER 05 :
And you think they would have control of like…
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, and the other is the, what is the ecumenical movement of one religion?
SPEAKER 05 :
That’s deep, man. Call us at 303-477-5600. Because you’re bringing up something deep. Because that ties all back to what you guys were saying. You’d have to change the mindset of a lot of people in order for that to happen, dude. Yeah. You know what I’m saying?
SPEAKER 09 :
Is it already happening? Oh my God. By the things that we’re being, the information we’re being fed and everything that’s happening.
SPEAKER 05 :
Do you think social media is just pumping it into us?
SPEAKER 06 :
Possibly. Which is why we fester all the time, why we always pick at wounds, why we always go back to wars that aren’t finished and we reopen them and we just, it’s ceaseless. I don’t know.
SPEAKER 05 :
It’s pretty dark. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. What you’re saying is because we’re talking about because I truly believe people listen. If you’re just chiming in, we’re talking about how we’re thanking our military. We’re thanking United States of America. If you were a part of our military, we’re saying thank you in English. Heath brought up a point about a one world currency and North and South all being combined, which I never think will happen. But if it was, you would have to have one leader over it all.
SPEAKER 06 :
One governing.
SPEAKER 05 :
One governing body. You would have to. How else could it be done? But that brings up the next point. If that was to happen, you’re probably the next Hitler. Let’s be real.
SPEAKER 09 :
That’s kind of extreme. Yeah.
SPEAKER 05 :
No, I mean, that’s exactly… His whole goal was to take over the whole world. Yeah. I mean, he had to start with where he was at. I mean, I just… I personally think, for me, I think if you have a one-world government and a one-world currency, you probably have to have a one-world military. I mean, I don’t see any other way to get around that. I mean, how else could… But I think – here brings up my next point. Right on. Oh, Michael again. How’s it going, Michael?
SPEAKER 10 :
What’s up, bro? Yeah, well, it’s me again. I was a Vietnam vet we talked to earlier.
SPEAKER 05 :
Man, we love when you call, man.
SPEAKER 10 :
78-year-old vet.
SPEAKER 05 :
Tell us about it.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, the only thing I want to say is this one commentator was – talking about the enemy within you know the bottom line is you know when we took our about we uh to defend the constitution against all enemies form and domestic so you’ve got a lot of domestic uh enemies however what i wanted to say was that the latest thing coming from the imams of the radical islam is they’re making the case that for every muslim family the average is three and a half kids And they say, well, you know, the current American population, white or black, it’s only one kid per family. So they want to take it over just by sure numbers. So eventually, I mean, you see people talk about, say, the browning of America. That’s why they want everybody across the border. But all that stuff plays into, you know, we are sold a bill of goods about, when we had families, let’s say the planet only have one or two kids, but everybody else in the world is making a half a dozen of them. And you see that when the immigrants, illegal or whatever, come over, they’ll have four kids. Whereas we all were left with just two kids. And then we go so far as to adopt a kid out of China. You know, so all I’m saying is that that plays into a really huge aspect of of what the population makeup is going to be. And they can do that from within without us ever doing anything.
SPEAKER 05 :
That’s deep. We never thought about that, guys. Thank you, Michael, for calling. That was a really, really deep conversation. Thank you so much. If you hear what he said, like the caller before, True, said that they’re attacking us from within. He made a good point. If you bring other people over here… Yeah, sure numbers.
SPEAKER 06 :
Sure numbers. Then it’s a patient game. Oh, my God. Isn’t China at like $2 billion? China’s got $2 billion.
SPEAKER 09 :
That makes a lot of sense, though.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 09 :
I mean, we’re… Yeah! I mean, that…
SPEAKER 05 :
And people call us at 303-477-5600. Dude, Dad, what he said was deep, dude.
SPEAKER 06 :
The one thing, and I don’t know, Michael, I don’t know if you like comedies, man. I love comedy. There’s one with Dax Shepard, and I forget the other guy. It might come to mind. Oh, it was a Wilson, Luke Wilson. And it’s called Idiocracy. And what happened is all the smart people stopped having children.
SPEAKER 05 :
I saw that movie.
SPEAKER 06 :
It was funny, dude. Kept having multiple children, breeding like rabbits.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right.
SPEAKER 06 :
And before you know it, we get blown out of proportion where the idiots are running and… running the whole country.
SPEAKER 05 :
So so so awful, what you just said, do you feel like they’re trying to change in 2025? Do you feel like they’re trying to change our mindset, like you guys said, to make us basically like robots instead of thinking outside the box?
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, I’m still thinking about the comment where they’re slowly growing just by reproducing. And then at some point they’re going to completely outnumber us. And that’s actually biblical with the Exodus, the children of Israel.
SPEAKER 05 :
Oh, I cannot believe you just brought that in. Reno has been dropping bombs on us lately, dude. I’m telling you, man. Yeah, dude, he’s got that ballistic missile on point, dude. But no, say what you just said, because that was deep. Hey, Dave, how’s it going?
SPEAKER 09 :
Oh, slowly.
SPEAKER 05 :
Tell us. Tell us what you think.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, I wanted to contribute a little bit. I’m not a Vietnam vet. My father was, and I’m a Cold War vet. Wow. And I would say I think both of us fall to this right. They do have, on their own time, they have the right to kneel. It’s up to their boss whether they do or not. But what they never have the right to do is stand in my face and shout it.
SPEAKER 05 :
Wow, Dave, that is deep. Wow. We thank you for your service. That is a really good point, what he just made. Dave, thank you for your call, man, and we appreciate you. Thank you for your service.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, your dad’s service.
SPEAKER 05 :
And your dad’s service. Thank you so much. Did you hear what he said? Like, if they want to kneel, fine. Just don’t get in my face and shout that stuff and do that stuff.
SPEAKER 06 :
Right.
SPEAKER 05 :
You know?
SPEAKER 06 :
So is he talking like in the face of it be like, okay, so we’re watching a game and that happens and then that becomes the highlight of the game?
SPEAKER 05 :
For sure. I guarantee that’s exactly what he means. So they don’t have to show that. But they do a lot of times, but they do.
SPEAKER 06 :
But the media does for the – Oh, yeah. To inflame something.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah. Yeah. back to that whole division thing that just just like dave and michael was saying dude they’re trying to jack us up and the truth from all inside what did the reno say about exodus oh yeah yeah yeah yeah thank you for thank you for our callers we we’ve got five minutes left call at 303-477-5600 and tell us so the the um what was it um
SPEAKER 04 :
Exodus children remember.
SPEAKER 09 :
When they were starting to populate and they were outnumbering the Egyptians. Oh, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER 06 :
Pharaoh had said that if, you know, lest they grow to number, lest they find out and they overthrow us.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, because they didn’t know they were outnumbering them. Right. Because once they realized it, then… So then… That’s why they had to…
SPEAKER 05 :
You know what just dawned on me is how, like, biblical things play into history today. It’s almost like it’s showing us something.
SPEAKER 06 :
Here’s a funny thing, man. I mean, I’ve talked with, you know, I have a lot of friends, man. I have everybody who’s, like, you know, straight and Christian, and I know some Satanists. I know a lot of people, man. But I’ve had some good talks with people who don’t, you know, they’re not godly. they don’t believe in like god like they’re just smart is what you’re saying they’re just smart um and uh um and then i lost my train of thought yeah you said you have all these different people you talk to they’re not necessarily christians do they just give you a different perspective that’s what it was pertaining to uh um the the pharaoh uh who started the war between pharaoh and god and And it was Pharaoh. Pharaoh was the one who said that because of the Israelites growing in number that they’re going to kill every firstborn. But then some of my friends who were like, you know, nonbelievers, they would immediately go to what kind of God is it that you serve that he would kill, you know, all of these firstborn in Egypt, right? But that was tit for tat. God only did what Pharaoh did to him.
SPEAKER 05 :
So I guess that brings up the next question. Do we believe in predestination? Was Pharaoh predestined just like Esau? Was he predestined?
SPEAKER 06 :
To play the bat. Because the potter has… the power to create a vessel for honor and a vessel for dishonor. God does.
SPEAKER 05 :
We have one minute left, people. And just remember, you can always get in contact with us at 303-477-5600. Normally, we don’t tell people what our topic is going to be next week, but we’re going to talk about predestination. Was America predestined? Was Pharaoh predestined? That would be a good topic. So, people, chime in next week, and we’re going to talk about what things predestined, and we’re going to see what these boys got in store for us.
SPEAKER 13 :
That steak at home is predestined to be in my belly. 303-477-5600. See y’all later.
SPEAKER 12 :
I don’t expect you to understand. I just hope I can explain what it’s like to be.
SPEAKER 08 :
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