Step into the world of political theater and social discourse with Mike Gallagher. This episode tackles the friction at the Vatican, where smoke signals mislead the public about a new pope. Meanwhile, President Trump secures a historic trade deal with the UK, setting a new gold standard in international relations. Explore the impact of artificial intelligence on culture with a captivating adaptation using Matt Damon’s voice, before turning to Bernie Sanders’ controversial reliance on private jets amidst his fight against the oligarchy. With a keen eye, Mike unpacks these narratives, ensuring listeners stay informed and entertained.
00:40:54 Issues in Florida and Republican Political Landscape
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He’s the happy conservative warrior, Mike Gallagher, broadcasting across hundreds of radio stations nationwide and seen on your trusted conservative TV network, Salem News Channel. Here’s Mike.
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Uh-oh, there’s some confusion at the Vatican. White smoke appeared to billow from the Sistine Chapel. But evidently, that’s a mistake. I don’t think they really believe that they’ve selected a pope yet. It’s confusion because it does look like it’s white smoke. Footage from the Vatican feed of the conclave that’s currently underway showed white smoke, which is meant to signal that a new pope had been elected. However, right after that, black smoke was seen. That would be my luck. I’d be the guy responsible for the smoke, and I’d get them mixed up. I would. I’d completely screw this up. Wait, black? So do the black smoke pellets? I did the white smoke. I thought you said white. No, no, dummy. I said black. Black. We don’t have a new El Papa yet. So it was a false alarm. No white smoke yet. The guy evidently, or whoever is responsible, pushed the wrong button. There’s good news for the Trump White House. Big announcement today. A trade deal with the U.K., President Trump announcing today a big agreement with the United Kingdom, the first of what is expected to be a series of developments since the United States imposed tariffs against allies and adversaries alike, according to the Wall Street Journal. Trump, early this morning, called this deal full and comprehensive. He said many other deals… which are in serious stages of negotiation, to follow. The golden era is beginning. And this uncertainty is starting to subside in America. I just saw a clip. AI is astounding. What artificial intelligence can do blows my mind. There’s a scene from a great movie called starring Matt Damon and Ben Affleck, called Good Will Hunting. Remember that movie? And I’m pretty sure this scene was adjusted from that movie. To depict a Matt Damon… describing America’s return under Donald Trump. Now, it’s not real, of course. I don’t know what Matt Damon’s politics are, nor do I care. It always interests me when people get excited about what celebrities, who they like politically. Do you see the news out of Washington, D.C., the Kennedy Center? Next month, they’re going to have a big fundraiser at the Kennedy Center, which has basically been taken over by the Trump administration in order to be less woke. And I’ve been to the Kennedy Center on a number of occasions. It’s a beautiful cultural center. But the… The narrative, the belief has been that it has become super woke. It’s run by a bunch of liberal Democrats. Now Rick Grinnell, who has been a longtime Trump supporter, is sort of running things. And they’re going to have a production of Les Miserables in June. Trump’s going to attend. Evidently, President Trump loves Les Mis. And it’s a great musical. And he likes the classics like that. He likes Les Mis and Phantom and Cats. He’s not real cutting edge when it comes to theater. He’s old school that way. So he’s going to attend the June 11th performance of Les Miserables, which is part of a fundraiser at the Kennedy Center. Well, 10 to 12 cast members are going to sit that one out. They’re going to boycott the performance. They’re going to be triggered. They’re going to know the orange man is in the audience. They can’t sing Master of the House or One Fine Day or whatever the songs are from Les Mis. One Day More, I mean. They can’t sing those songs. They’ll start crying. You’ve got Trump in the audience. I have a friend who’s a theater guy, or used to be anyway, and he said they ought to fire every one of them. Well, they’re not going to fire them. They gave them the option. The producers told the cast members, now, look, if you don’t want to perform because Orange Man Bad is going to be in the audience, you don’t have to perform. So 10 to 12 of the actors are going to sit this one out. Principals, ensemble, a dozen cast members are going to refuse to perform. That’ll show him. Don’t do your job. You’ll get to sit home, put your feet up, and eat some Doritos and watch Netflix that night. And you know what I keep thinking of? The pragmatic side of me wonders what’s going to happen to the actors who are willing to perform. Because I know that theater community, they can be real, real vicious, and they’re going to go after the actors who are willing to perform that night. And they’re going to start wondering, are they MAGA? Are they conservatives? Are they, are they, so… send a little prayer their way because their careers might be in trouble when it really should be the other way around. If you’re so woke that you’re not going to… I mean, I saw a guy a couple weeks ago say, look, I’ve performed before Obama, Trump, Bush, Clinton. The president is the president. And what those actors in Les Mis refuse to recognize, he’s your president. You can’t change that. All right, so here’s this clip that I saw. Again, this is, and I’m pretty sure it’s Matt Damon. Guys, tell me if I’m wrong here. Did you see the clip, Christian? It is, right? And I think it’s from Good Will Hunting, but they changed the words. This is all done via AI. But you’re going to appreciate this. Dilly Studios did this, and they posted it on social media, and I wanted to share it with you.
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What the hell’s happening right now? Fine, I’ll spell it out for you. It’s 2025, and instead of Grandpa Bedpan drooling on the nuclear codes, you got Donald Trump back behind the Resolute desk, pen in one hand, tariffs in the other, and he’s raising hell. The border’s locked down, reinforced with razor wire and tanks. Cartel scouts getting lit up like Christmas trees. Ice is back. You’re paying two bucks a gallon because we’re flooding the market with American oil while those climate cultists cry in their oat milk. People can finally afford to buy eggs again. No proxy wars. No blank checks for Nazi cokeheads. Putin checked. She checked. NATO? Free ride’s over. Pay up or shut up. At home? Job surging. Factories humming. Middle class making a comeback like it’s 1955. This ain’t the Trump you remember. This is Trump 2.0 and he’s running out of to give. A hundred days in and the deep state’s already bricks. They stole it in 2020 but we got it back. So now we’re playing for keeps. Trump’s back in charge and America’s getting rebuilt. With or without you.
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And then it says at the end in big, bold letters, America is back. America is back. You know, I worry about AI, but once in a while, AI does some good. That’s pretty cool, isn’t it? And that was Matt Damon’s voice. The only problem is that they start using all of our voices without our permission. That could be problematic. Remember when Bill Maher called the show? Eric Hansen will never live it down. Eric’s been with me for 25 years, and I trust Eric with everything. Eric’s the rock on our show. I mean, we’ve got a great team, best team in broadcasting. Christian and Tracy and Teresa. We’ve got Jasmine, who’s training today on the video side of things. Joey, of course. Robert, Roger Shulman. We’ve got a great team here. But Eric’s been, he’s the veteran. He’s the old war horse. Do you know that in 25 years, he’s never taken a day off, a sick day? Now, he made up for it when he went to Budapest for about a month last month with his wife, but that’s okay. We won’t hold it against him. Eric comes screaming into the studio, Bill Maher’s on line three from Hollywood. I said, Bill Maher is not on line three. No, no, it’s Bill Maher. I said, Eric, it’s not Bill Maher. Mike, I’m telling you. I said, look at the number. He goes, it’s from Bill Maher Productions. In California, in Los Angeles. I said, all right, well, let’s go. Line three, here’s Bill Maher. And it was Bill Maher’s voice. Hi, Mike. Yeah, I have some things to say. And I started talking to him. There were long pauses, which was the first red flag. It was all AI. Somebody had used AI. First of all, they spoofed his actual office number to make it look like he was calling from the Bill Maher Productions, whatever that is. And it was Bill Maher’s voice, but it wasn’t Bill Maher. It was all AI. So that’s what AI did there with the Matt Damon speech, which we liked so much. I love that clip. America is back. Here’s a lot of text messages coming in. Illinois, do these stage actors not realize that they are performing daily for hundreds and thousands of Trump voters? I always wonder about that. I mean, all these woke actors who go into live theater, do you not realize half of your audience or more voted for the guy you hate so much? North Carolina, let the understudies get famous showing what they can do. Here’s Louisville, Kentucky. The Les Mis cast members should not be given the choice. So unprofessional, they should all be fired. Blake’s in Jacksonville, Florida. Blake, what do you make of the Les Mis actors boycotting the performance at the Kennedy Center next month? Because Trump’s going to be in the audience.
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Free Beacon says Bernie Sanders spent $221,000 on private jets fighting the oligarchy tour paid for by friends of Bernie Sanders. That you’ve spent millions of dollars in campaign funds on private jet travel over the years. How do you push back on both of those things?
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When’s the last time you saw Donald Trump during a campaign mode at National Airport?
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No, no, no. It doesn’t. But he’s also not fighting the oligarchy.
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You run a campaign and you do three or four or five rallies in a week. The only way you can get around to talk to 30,000 people. Think I’m going to be sitting on a waiting line at United waiting, you know, while 30,000 people are waiting. That’s the only way you can get around. No apologies for that. That’s what campaign travel is about. We’ve done it in the past. We’re going to do it in the future. That’s right.
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No apologies. You think I’m going to wait in line? Get on a United plane? These clowns are beyond satire. They’re oblivious. They’re oblivious to the cartoon characters they really are. Wow, good old Bernie Sanders, the gift that keeps giving. Hey, summertime is all about making great memories. Backyard barbecues, road trips, maybe something you love to do, but living with pain, maybe back pain or hip or leg or knee pain, that can keep those future memories from ever happening. Relief factor is a way to get summer back. Summertime is almost here. Can’t wait. And relief factor? is a 100% drug-free daily supplement that helps your body fight pain naturally. Developed by a team of physicians and scientists, Relief Factor uses a unique formula of four natural ingredients. What I love about Relief Factor, besides it being drug-free, is it doesn’t just mask the pain, it helps reduce or even eliminate it. Can we get you out of pain? Let’s give it a try. Their three-week quick start is a low-cost way to see if it’ll work for you. It’s only $19.95, less than a dollar a day. Go to relieffactor.com to get started, relieffactor.com, or call 800-4-RELIEF. 1-800-4-RELIEF, 800 the number 4-RELIEF, or visit relieffactor.com. Fight pain naturally with Relief Factor.
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I always love these clowns who lecture everybody about how we’re supposed to save the planet and we’re all guilty if we use more than one square of toilet paper at a time. But they’re flying around the country because they’re so important, they can’t be bothered to fly commercial. I saw that clip last night. I thought, that cannot be real. I didn’t see the full interview with Bret Baier and Bernie Sanders. I couldn’t believe it. Do we have the short version? We have the short version of it? I think there’s like a 15-second version. You think I’m going to stand on line to get on a United Airlines flight? I mean, it’s incredible. And, you know, everybody shrugs their shoulder. Here’s a text from Florida. Bernie is a hypocrite. Big deal. It’s not important. It’s not important. You know why it’s not important to you, Florida? Why? Because you accept the unacceptable. You accept the narrative. Well, they’re all a bunch of frauds and they all lie and they all are hypocrites. And you just accept it. You shrug your shoulders. Bernie Sanders… Play it one more time. It’s a little bit longer than I want, but I’d love to just isolate the part where he is such an elitist that he… turns up his nose at the idea of standing at a United Airlines gate like the rest of us have to do, like normal people do every day. You could absolutely fly commercial on your Stop the Oligarchy tour. It reminds me of Billy Graham. Billy Graham, one of the most famous stories about Billy Graham is how modestly he lived. And I have to admit, I know I’m going to open up a whole can of worms over the so-called prosperity gospel style, but when I see some of these television evangelists who live like absolute just kings, I mean, huge mansions and private helicopters and private jets and And look, well, we can spend time on this as a subject someday, but I admit I’m a little bothered because I keep thinking about Billy Graham, who essentially lived in a very modest home his whole life. And he had one of the world’s most impressive ministries in the history of ministry. And he didn’t live in a big fancy mansion. He was humble. He was a man of God. And he prayed with Republican and Democrat presidents. And I just think about Billy Graham when I see, I mean, nothing against Joel Osteen. I’m sure he does great work. You ever see his home? Oh, my gosh. It’s like Buckingham Palace on steroids. T.D. Jakes? You ever see the guy that has been the pastor of the Potter’s House? Yes. He doesn’t live in a potter’s house. These folks live like big-time gazillionaires. Like oligarchs. The subject of Bernie Sanders’ wrath. So it makes me, but again, that’s kind of a different subject. But I also think there’s an applicable comparison here. Because when Bernie Sanders claims to care about the middle class and the working class, here he is with Bret Baier last night making no apologies for flying private from city to city spewing his Trump hatred.
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Free Beacon says Bernie Sanders spent $221,000 on private jets fighting the oligarchy tour paid for by friends of Bernie Sanders. That you’ve spent millions of dollars in campaign funds on private jet travel over the years. How do you push back on both of those things?
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When’s the last time you saw Donald Trump during a campaign mode at National Airport?
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No, no, no. It doesn’t. But he’s also not fighting the oligarchy.
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You run a campaign and you do three or four or five rallies in a week. The only way you can get around to talk to 30,000 people. Think I’m going to be sitting on a waiting line at United waiting while 30,000 people are waiting? That’s the only way you can get around. No apologies for that. That’s what campaign travel… For that whatsoever.
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You think I’m going to wait in line at Newark Airport to get on a United flight? Like the rest of you bums? And you know what to me is the giveaway of what that fraud said? It’s that there are 30,000 people waiting for him. He’s such a big deal. We’ve got 30,000 people. I can’t get to them on United Airlines. I’ve got to get to them on a private jet because that’s how important I am. That’s how much better I am than everybody else. Bernie Sanders doesn’t care about the working class. How many homes does Bernie Sanders own? You ever looked into that? You think AOC cares about hard-working, tax-paying schlubs who fly commercial? And here’s a text from Massachusetts who says, Mike, your Florida texter is wrong. These clowns think they’re better than everyone else. Bernie should be called out and embarrassed for his rank hypocrisy. 800-655-6453. Joe’s in Columbus, Ohio. One open line. We’ll get with Bill Bunkley here in just a moment and talk a little bit about Governor DeSantis. Here’s Joe. Hey, Joe, welcome aboard. How are you?
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Hey, Mike. Thank you for taking my call. Of course. Glad you joined us. Hey, Bernie is part of the problem. He is part of the oligarchy. Okay, you just mentioned he’s got multiple homes. He considers himself above the average person. And he’s just being a hypocrite. I can remember when I first started flying and working for the government, I can remember one time coming back from D.C., we were having some problems, and finally some guy sitting next to me stood up and said, John, can’t you tell the pilot to get this plane off the ground? It was my congressman. He was flying coach, just like me.
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Wow. Wow. And he’s back in the coat. And they could all fly coach just like you. They could absolutely be on a commercial flight. And they don’t. They won’t do it. Look at the movie stars who preach about climate change. Do you realize what kind of a carbon footprint a private jet has? Well, they don’t care. They’re better than you. They’ll tell you you’ve got to save the planet, and then they’ll get on their Gulfstream 5 to fly off to the Cannes Film Festival. Pathetic. Pathetic. 19 minutes before the hour. Incidentally, portions of our show sponsored by the Hotel Hartness, my home away from home. When I visit the upstate of South Carolina, travel and leisure’s world best rates Hotel Hartness, the number one resort in the entire state, the third best resort in the country, and number 24 in the world. It’s right in the upstate. You can stay there, too. Go to hotelhartness.com, hotelhartness.com. A lot of text messages about the pastors and the televangelists who live in big mansions. Colorado writes, those guys you mentioned do not teach the true gospel of Christ. Their lifestyle says it all. Steer clear. You know, you wonder sometimes, would Jesus live in an 80-room mansion? I mean, I know I’m going to get all kinds of trouble here. Colorado, those rich televangelists… are probably hardcore atheists. Billy Graham, here’s South Carolina, Billy Graham once went to Europe and they criticized him because he took a big ocean liner to get over there. Reverend Graham’s reply was, if you can find me a donkey that can walk on water, I’d buy it in a minute. Arizona. Billy Graham was the real deal. It’s a real fascinating issue because I also know that I don’t think God frowns on financial success. In fact, just the opposite. I’m getting into waters here that I should stay out of. I’m wading into territory that I should completely avoid. But the truth is, it feels a little off-putting to see… how some of these folks live. I mean, it’s amazing. And I don’t even know if it was real, but supposedly it was a picture of Joel Osteen’s home. Tracy, can you find a story about Joel Osteen’s home? He’s got a very popular, likable guy, big smile, you know, he does his thing. And, you know, I also give him a lot of grace because I’ll bet Joel Osteen has brought a So you’ve got to remember that. I want to remember that. I do remember that. I want to keep that in mind. But my gosh, how big a house do you need if you’re a man of God? I don’t know. Then again, you think about, look at the Catholic Church right now, the conclave. And all the rituals and the gold. It’s one of the richest churches in the world. I guess every… major religious organization has this dichotomy. There’s apparent contradiction. But, you know, let’s just keep it to politics for a minute. As of 2025, Bernie Sanders and his wife, Jane O’Meara Sanders, own two homes. They’ve got a primary residence in Burlington, Vermont. that they bought in 2009 for $405,000 and a lakefront summer home in North Hero, Vermont, purchased in 2016 for $575,000. Do you think most people have a million dollars of a real estate portfolio? If you’re fighting the oligarch, the oligarchy, how can you not say that Bernie Sanders is that which he fights? You think a guy with a couple of half a million dollar properties is a downtrodden socialist just fighting for the little guy? Give me a break. This is comedy. And then he goes and admits it. I make no apologies. No apologies. You think I’m going to wait in line to get on a United Airlines flight? Make no apologies for that. Yeah, they’re legitimate. Yeah, you can believe them. They’re authentic. Now, look, I do want you to live in a nice home. And when you’re ready to buy a home, there’s one place I recommend, Fellowship Home Loans. These are great guys, Mike and Brian. In fact, they are good people who have built a company on biblical values, and they want to put you first. In today’s economy, you’ve got to have a lender who can help you make smart, strategic moves when it comes to real estate. You need cash for home improvements? Thinking about a HELOC or refi? Fellowship can help you do it faster, more efficiently, and do it for less. These guys are a direct lender. They’re not a broker, so there’s never any middleman. There’s no unnecessary fees. So fewer hoops to jump through, less waiting, and real answers from real people who care. Whether you’re buying, selling, refinancing, or exploring your options, Fellowship Home Loans will tailor everything to your unique needs. Get started today. FellowshipHomeLoans.com slash Mike G. FellowshipHomeLoans.com slash Mike G. Or call 800-510-MIKE. 800-510-MIKE. Fellowship Home Loans. Mortgage lending by the book.
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How about Bernie scoffing at having to fly commercial? Okay. He was all with Bret Baier yesterday. And once again, Bret Baier, the show where everybody can come and be treated with respect and deference. And he was scolding Bernie for doing his anti-oligarchy. It’s all about the oligarchs. And yet you’re flying private. And Bernie essentially said, what am I supposed to do? Stand in line at United for 30 minutes? I’ll turn him into Jackie Mason now. Sometimes I turn him into Doc Brown, but now he’s Jackie Mason. I’m going to tell you, he’s got a point. Oh, be quiet. He does not. He’s a socialist.
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He’s a socialist. I know the optics are bad. He cares about the middle class. He cares about the under… Oh, come on. Don’t give him any grace for saying something that stupid. He’s wrong about everything. What am I going to do? Stand in line at United? You’re going to defend that, Mark? Yes.
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What the heck is wrong with you? I’m going to say that anybody has, okay, if you’re Bernie Sanders, okay, you’re Bernie Sanders, let’s make you Bernie. Let’s channel Bernie. We’re going to channel Bernie. Get in the DeLorean. We’re channeling Bernie. And you’ve got five events in five days talking to 30,000 people. What are you going to do?
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You get on United because you’re a socialist.
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You’re a comrade. Okay. And this is a point. Don’t stop it. Don’t make this a posturing point today. Because, of course, you have a point. Of course you do. That if you are the anti-oligarch, if you are the socialist, you should probably find a crop duster that will get you there.
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And if you’re AOC, you don’t fly first class.
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Mm-hmm.
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They’re hypocrites, Mark. If you’re AOC, you don’t get a picture taken of you up there eating shrimp cocktail in first class. They’re fighting for the little guy. But they’re not fighting for the little guy. Bernie Sanders is rich. Bernie Sanders has multiple homes. He’s a millionaire. Absolutely. But to actually physically say, to open his mouth and say, like you said in your Jackie Mason impression, what am I going to do? Stand on line? And by the way, on line, it was the very northeastern way of saying in line. They like to say on line up there. Staying on, what am I going to do? Stand on line at United? Well, yeah. What am I? What do you think I’m doing? Golly. You know, I’m going to have a good chat with Bill Bunkley. I don’t know if you know much about Bill.
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He’s a great Tampa Bay – Religious broadcaster.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. He’s on our Christian teaching and talk side, but he knows Florida politics. Axios did a big intriguing piece on Ron DeSantis yesterday. I don’t know if you caught it or not. But it was basically – the narrative is his fall from the top of the mountain has been pretty spectacular. Wow. As measured by what? As measured by his difficulty in corralling the Florida legislature right now, having all kinds of problems here in Florida. The Republicans are kind of revolting against him. And ask yourself this question, Mark. Do you see him as the 2028 nominee? Oh, I don’t know.
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Would he be in the conversation? Of course he would. As we talked about yesterday, do we just hand it to Vance if this administration is so awesome? There’s an argument that says we do. If not, if there’s a big, crazy, wide-open primary, DeSantis, Nikki Haley, Marco Rubio.
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I don’t think DeSantis is in the conversation.
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Other than Abbott, by the way, Abbott might be as well. Other than Abbott, name a more noteworthy governor. Name one.
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Quick. Come on. I’m talking about a noteworthy candidate in 2020.
SPEAKER 03 :
That’s what I mean. But I would suggest that a top three noteworthy, high-achieving Republican governor is instantly in the conversation. Where does this come from, this constant desire? I think this is a… He’s damaged goods. I think this is an echo… Of the gripe that you had, I don’t know if you had it as much as other people, for DeSantis forever running against Trump. DeSantis remains an absolute rock star. It may not work in 2027 when everybody’s running for president of New Hampshire. He won’t be governor anymore because he’s term limited. And he may fade from the front of the pack.
SPEAKER 04 :
He’s not the rock star.
SPEAKER 03 :
Nope, not at all. Tell me why not. I’ll tell you. Tell me why not.
SPEAKER 04 :
First of all, it’s wishful thinking on your part because you like the guy. And that’s fine. And he’s a good governor. I mean, I say as a governor.
SPEAKER 03 :
So what’s the problem? So what will block him? What will make him a forgotten persona?
SPEAKER 04 :
You already addressed it. Most of MAGA’s base doesn’t forgive him for running against Trump. And I’m just telling you, it wasn’t his time.
SPEAKER 03 :
Most of MAGA’s base has forgotten that already. No, they haven’t. Oh, you’re wrong. Okay, does MAGA hate Ted Cruz? Does MAGA hate Ted Cruz? No, no. You’ve made my point. I was in Apples and Oranges. Cruz and Trump went mano a mano. It was a bloodbath. And Cruz came around, become Trump’s best buddy. And now all is forgiven. Tell me how it’s different.
SPEAKER 04 :
Because Cruz challenged Trump right out of the gate in 2016. It was Donald Trump’s time. Everybody knew it. And Ron DeSantis was advised against running against him, and he did it anyway. No, you’re giving way too much credence to thinking that everybody’s forgotten about it. I’m telling you, the guy is done. He’s done in national politics.
SPEAKER 03 :
He’s got the wife. You wouldn’t have said, oh, okay. He’s got the wife.
SPEAKER 04 :
They’ve got this big scandal where the wife wants to be his successor, which, by the way, there’s nothing good about that idea. Nothing good about that.
SPEAKER 03 :
And he also was, he kind of wanted, there was a thought that he would name Casey to fill the Rubio vacancy for the U.S. Senate.
SPEAKER 04 :
That’s exactly right. So there’s a lot of bad feelings right now in Florida about DeSantis. And look, he is an effective governor. I’m not disputing that.
SPEAKER 03 :
That is the most important thing. All this other stuff is window dressing and sideshows.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, we’ll let the game come to us. We’ll see what happens in a couple of years. I just think that it is fascinating. I’m going to talk to Bill today about his supposed fall. I mean, they’ve got Republican consultants saying it’s like a made-for-TV movie. This guy was, remember, at one point was beating Trump in the polls. and then, you know, sort of dropped off the cliff.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, that was never real. I mean, his lead in the poll was just a function of it. Sometimes when people first get in, there’s kind of a phony puff of initial enthusiasm. Maybe, maybe. Time will tell. I’ll tell you what, just the last 30 seconds, I will tell you this, because the strongest point you have is his inability to wrangle the Florida legislature. You know Florida still has red flag laws?
SPEAKER 04 :
You better believe it. And Florida has skyrocketing property taxes, crazy HOA fees. There’s a lot of challenges here. And what is DeSantis worried about? Banning fluoride. I mean, my goodness. I mean, I get it. And people get fired up about it. That’s one of those red meat topics. People get all excited about it. Oh, we shouldn’t. All right. Well, then let’s. And I kind of agree with it. You know, it’s a little bit like the shot. If you don’t want a medicine in your water, which technically Florida, I get it. So go buy a Florida fluoride toothpaste. Don’t put it in the drinking water, I guess. But in the scheme of things, I’m not sure that’s what people are sitting around fretting about.
SPEAKER 03 :
You are correct, sir.
SPEAKER 04 :
You are correct. How about some of these Republicans like James Lankford insisting that illegals have a right-to-do process? How about Tom Tillis in North Carolina blocking Ed Martin? You know what this feels like to me, Mark? And I don’t know if you think I’m over-exaggerating. It does feel like an attempted coup. They’re trying to sabotage the Trump agenda, don’t you think?
SPEAKER 03 :
They’re those who are trying to attract positive attention to themselves by going rogue. Two cases, Lankford, there was a quote of, I think we’ve both seen it. I don’t think he believes in lengthy, weeks-long jury trials. The bottom line is, should there be due process for every deportation case? Yes, and in most of their cases, it should take about 20 seconds. Did you come into the country illegally? Yes. Bingo. Do you have documentation that you should be in the country? Yes. Okay, you can stay. Are you here illegally? Yes. Bye. Due process. Boom, there you go.
SPEAKER 12 :
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SPEAKER 04 :
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