In today’s episode of The Kim Munson Show, Kim celebrates the essence of independent media as she addresses pressing issues surrounding energy, transportation, and more. She offers thoughtful analysis on freedom versus force, inviting listeners to consider the implications of current policies. Later, she speaks with Joshua Lowenstein, highlighting the U.N.’s 30 by 30 agenda and its probable encroachment on both public and private lands. Listen in as they discuss the essential role of land rights in maintaining liberty and the convoluted layers of bureaucracy seeking to undermine them.
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And we are on all the KLZ 560 platforms, which is KLZ 560 AM, KLZ 100.7 FM, and the KLZ website and the KLZ app. So you can listen to us anywhere in the world as we search for truth and clarity, looking at these issues through this lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. Something’s a good idea. You shouldn’t have to force people to do it. and it’s never compassionate to take other people’s stuff whether or not it’s their rights their property freedom livelihood opportunity or lives via force force can be a weapon but it can be policy unpredictable and excessive taxation fear coercion Government-induced inflation, we’re feeling that one right now. The World Economic Forum’s agenda, the globalist elite’s agenda, and these are all connected. The United Nations agenda, the Colorado State Legislature, the Colorado governor, the World Health Organization. These land use codes and zoning regulations and force fees, those are in a way more subtle, but they’re really ramping those up. And we’ll be talking with Josh Lowenstein with Our American Lands today. in the second segment of this first hour because there’s something new that you need to know about and remember my friends if something’s a good idea you should not have to use force to implement it on the show we focus on the issues and the people pushing those issues we’re trying to stay out of all the eighth grade girl personality fights and so that is our goal Let’s see here. I want to say thank you to Laramie Energy for their gold sponsorship of the show. My friends, this whole industry is under attack. And what that means is that reliable, efficient, affordable, and abundant energy sources are under attack. And it is these reliable, efficient, affordable, and abundant energy sources that powers our lives and fuels our hopes and dreams. So just connect the dots. Our own prosperity is under attack, not only with the oil and gas industry and coal industry, but other industries. But thank you to Laramie Energy for their gold sponsorship of the show. Our word of the day, and thank you to Neil for this, is ineptocracy. And it’s a system of government. Oh, I’ll spell it. I-N-E-P-T-O-C-R-C-Y. And in an eptocracy, it’s a system of government where the least capable to lead are elected by the least capable of producing and where the members of society least likely to sustain themselves or succeed are rewarded with goods and services paid for by the confiscated wealth of a diminishing number of producers. And the Biden-Harris administration has really, I would call that inepticrisy. And I did see a post on X regarding Obama, and he was accusing the Trump administration of everything that the Biden-Harris administration has done. And whenever these radical extremists start speaking, basically they are telling you and when they’re accusing others of whatever, it’s really what they have done. And in this X post, someone said Obama has lost his touch, but it looks like he’s trying to continue to sow division in our country. And so we need to speak truth into these issues, and we need to unify around this idea that all men are created equal with these rights from God of life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness. At some point in time, in eptocracy, what happens is the producers quit producing, which means that then there is nothing to take from the producers to give to everyone else. And as a friend of mine said in… socialism, communism, everybody’s equal in their, they’re equal in their misery because, and she said, we’ll all be sharing a saltine cracker. And so that is why we have a window in time here. This is our time in history. We had the Revolutionary War, Civil War. I think this is the third founding of our country. And my friends, yes, we were made for this moment. So speaking of the Revolutionary War, I got this quote of the day because in 1775 at Fort Ticonderoga, New York, Henry Knox begins his historic transport of abandoned British artillery to Boston, Massachusetts, later forces the British to evacuate Boston. It’s an amazing story. I don’t have time to give you the whole story right now, but Henry Knox was born in 1750, died in 1806. He was a Boston bookseller, then a military officer and politician. He was a founding father of the United States. He became a senior general of the Continental Army during the Revolutionary War, serving as chief of artillery in most of Washington’s campaigns. Following the American Revolution, he oversaw the War Department under the Articles of Confederation from 1785 to 1789. Washington, at the start of his first administration, appointed Knox the nation’s first Secretary of War, a position he held from 1789 to 1794. He’s well known today as the namesake of Fort Knox in Kentucky, the repository of a large portion of the nation’s gold reserves. And Henry Knox said this, he said that taxes may be ostensible, a cause is true, but that they are the true cause is as far remote from truth as light from darkness. So one more time that taxes may be the ostensible cause is true, but that they are the true cause is as far remote from truth as light from darkness. And other things on this day in history. Let’s see, 1793, Noah Webster establishes New York’s first daily newspaper, the American Minerva. 1854, Alfred Tennyson’s poem, Charge of the Light Brigade, is published in the Examiner. And The Charge of the Light Brigade is about a disastrous military action during the Crimean War where British cavalry charged into a heavily defended position against Russian forces due to a misunderstood order resulting in significant casualties. The event is also commemorated in a poem by Alfred Lord Tennyson, which highlights the bravery and duty of the soldiers despite the tragic outcome. Then in 1941, the first U.S. World War II bombing mission in Far East Luzon, Philippines. Now, it was this weekend, December 7th, 1941, was the bombing of Pearl Harbor. So this was the start of World War II. So just a few days later, after Pearl Harbor’s bombed on this day in history, 1941, Adolf Hitler orders U.S. ships and those loyal to her to be torpedoed three days before declaring war on the U.S. And then climate event. And be sure and check out our documentary, A Climate Conversation. And you can find that at climateconversation.com with our amazing podcast. But in 1985, Phoenix, Arizona gets three inches of snow. So hence, I think that’s where the activists realized they needed to once again change the name from global warming to climate change. And then I thought this was pretty funny. In 2021, more than 40 camels are disqualified from King Abdulaziz Camel Festival beauty contest after Botox injections and other cosmetic enhancements were discovered. I think you probably have to use a lot of Botox to make a camel attractive. Okay, let’s get over here to headlines. First headline, we talked about this last week, Pam Long brought this to our attention, that at Fort Carson, the soldiers, the food is scarce, the quality is pretty crummy, and this is not okay. So Pam actually did all the research on electeds and Fort Carson emails as well. And she has gotten that over to us. And we are going to send that out on Thursday in a standalone email. from the Kim Munson show. We very seldom will do a second email during the week. We want to respect your inbox. We do our Sunday newsletter. But I said to Zach, I think this needs to be a standalone and we need to take a little time to get all that together. We’ve got all these different projects going on. So that will be going out, I think, on Thursday with all that information. And then, my friends, we need to take action. And we cannot let this be happening to our soldiers? And if you want more information, you can find that at military.com. And the title is For Soldiers at Fort Carson, Food is Scarce. Next thing, this is from Fox News, DOGE, that’s the Department of Government Efficiency that Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy are heading up, is pushing to return federal workers to office as buildings sit vacant. And so this is this is a big, big fight. And I didn’t realize that I shared with you last week that at one of the Christmas parties, I was sitting next to a former federal worker. And he said that many of these federal workers may have moved and they may be getting fired. On a pay scale, a bump for an area that they may be living in that’s more expensive and they may have moved away from that area. So this is why this is such a big fight. And so this next article, and I think I highlighted it last week as well, says thousands of federal employees land a work from home deal ahead of Trump. So here you’ve got, and this is from Bloomberg, it says a Biden administration appointee has agreed to lock in hybrid work protections for tens of thousands of Social Security staff, part of a slew of organized labor efforts that complicate President-elect Donald Trump’s efforts to reshape the federal workforce. So they’re just leaving all kinds of landmines for the Donald Trump administration. Then next, I think that we were all shocked to see this gunning down of… Oh, gosh, I lost the title on it now. Sorry about that. Let me get to that. But regarding the UnitedHealthcare CEO that was gunned down in New York City, and this is remarkable. And apparently the left, there are those on the radical left that are in support of this gunning down of someone. because I’m concerned about denial of benefits from UnitedHealthcare. Stay tuned on this story. It is pretty shocking. And then the next thing is California with their fast food wage law. It looks like instead of many of these people getting more money, they’re losing their jobs. And this is from the Daily Caller. It says California shed more than 6,000 jobs due to the fast food wage law. And so it has the opposite effect from what they say they’re trying to do, but I think it has the effect of what they’re trying to do. And so we must continue to keep our eye on all of these different policies, and we do that on a regular basis. It happens because of our great sponsors, and one of those is the Roger Mangan State Farm Insurance Team. 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And welcome back to the Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter and you can email me at Kim at Kim Munson dot com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We’re an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something’s a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. Please dab on the line with me, Joshua Lowenstein. He is the founder of Our American Lands. and they hosted their first conference in October in Monta Vista. I had the great honor of emceeing that event. Joshua Lowenstein, welcome. Good morning. Hey, I’m doing well. This Biden administration is trying to do all kinds of things before the inauguration of Donald Trump. And we talked about the potential Dolores monument, but you’ve uncovered something else that is mind boggling. So tell us about that.
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Well, the you know, there’s they’re trying to do 30 by 30 on a scale now because they know they’re about to be out of office tomorrow. That is going bonkers. And the local eco-activist group here in San Luis Valley has suggested that Colorado should have 14 million more acres of Colorado put into conservation, special protective conservation, more than the conservation there already is. Everything is, all the federal land has federal protections for the land, the water, the animals, all of it. And this particular new designation coming from the Fish and Wildlife Service is proposing to designate nearly, you know, almost 5 million acres of Colorado under the Endangered Species Act to protect the Canadian lynx that got introduced about 20 some years ago into Colorado. And 437,000 acres of that is enveloping private property too. So it’s just crazy.
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So 30 by 30, we talk about it pretty regularly on the show, but explain to our listeners what 30 by 30 is, Josh Lowenstein.
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Well, it’s part of a plan that started in the 90s with Agenda 21 and then for basically United Nations and the various globalist entities to take over and control 30% of the world’s land and water by 2030 and 50% by 2050.
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And I think there’s this impression that public lands, that the public would have access to it for agriculture, grazing, motorized recreation, hunting, fishing, and natural resources, which is what you have here on our American lands. But 30 by 30 wants to return the land to its natural state without, I think, human interaction.
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Well, rewilding.
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Rewilding. Yeah. And so this is a really big deal. How did you uncover this? Because I think they’re trying to be very sneaky about this, Josh Lowenstein.
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The fellow who just got elected to House District 52, Larry Don Sucla, out there on the West Side, posted this on Facebook, actually. So… If you don’t mind, I can read all the counties that are affected by this. Yes, please do. That’s Archuleta, Boulder, Chaffee, Clear Creek, Kanaos, Dolores, Eagle, Gilpin, Grand, Gunnison, Hinsdale, La Plata, Lake, Mineral, Montezuma, Ouray, Park, Pitkin, Rio Grande, Soich, San Juan, San Miguel, and Summit Counties. And parts of New Mexico, too, are affected by this giant misuse of the Endangered Species Act. I mean, there’s only 150 lynx in Colorado. That kind of gives them about 33,000 acres each.
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Wow. Oh, my gosh. Oh, my gosh. So the end game on this is control, control of the land. And America was founded, one of the foundational principles of America is private property rights. And, of course, globalists, they don’t want people to have private property rights. They want us all to be little minions, and they want to be in control of everything. And so what what needs to be done about this, Josh Lowenstein?
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Well, there’s a public comment period that ends on January 28th, 2025. So the we need to once again, they make these comment periods so short, you know, that, you know, it’s only what, you know, not even two months away for that. for getting all the public comments. And so there is, uh, I will get you more information exactly on how to do the commenting on that. The information I have doesn’t show exactly where to make that comment too, but one of the big things that they talk about in their description of how this would affect this, this, uh, 5 million acre area is to limit firewood cutting and or deadfall and dead standing tree harvesting for firewood. And of course, as we know, the gross mismanagement of our national forests in relation to being able to get clear out some of that deadfall is the reason why forest fires get so serious and overtake so much land. And they’re talking about forcing that issue to be even more so because they don’t want humans out there in this area. I think that ultimately they want us to be the endangered species.
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It’s pretty crazy. And to your point, without forest management, these forest fires get bigger, they get more intense, and it seems to me like it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out that that’s a real problem, unless ultimately, I’m not sure they even care about the earth. They’re just using… all of this to try to gain more and more control. That seems like ultimately what’s happening, Joshua. I know that’s a strong statement. Do you agree?
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Absolutely. 100%.
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Okay. Tell people a little bit more about Our American Lands. That website is, I’ve got it right here, it’s ouramericanlands.com. And I know you’re gaining more and more momentum, and the conference that you had in October I think was very, very important. But we need to be shedding light on this because, again, I think it’s quite sneaky on what they’re trying to get through.
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Well, you know, it’s just crazy. The degree of which they do this stuff is just insane and maniacal. But Our American Lands is a land use advocacy nonprofit organization with the intent that all of these public lands are for multi-use and simple as that. The other part of this is private land. And, of course, this particular designation would, take almost half a million acres, which is the size of the Dolores Monument proposal by itself, but half a million acres in acreage of private property, too. And we advocate for private property rights as well. So it’s stuff that just has to be nipped in the bud. We have to get out there. All the various organizations that are pro-land use and pro-freedom need to just raised holy heck about this.
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So on the private lands, are they going to limit the use of the private lands, or what’s the game plan on that?
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This claims that it won’t, but in Montana, for example, where Fish and Wildlife, the same group that’s bureaucracy that is doing this, They took over 5.8 million acres in western Montana for various reasons, but the Fish and Wildlife just deemed it without having to do any environmental impact studies or anything like that. And they’re using conservation easements, basically forcing people that live in that area out. So if you live in an area that’s going to be enveloped by this particular designation – you better be on guard because they’re going to be trying to come after your land to boot you out.
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Okay. So Joshua, Gammy has texted me. She said she wants that information on those counties, and she’s going to do a write-up on it. And so if you can get me that, we’ll get it into the show summary for today with the link of where to make comments and the counties that are affected, and we’ll get that in there. Josh Lowenstein, thank you for keeping me informed and for staying on top of this. And again, I recommend people check out ouramericanlands.com.
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Thank you, Kim. I really appreciate it.
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Welcome back to the Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter and you can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We’re an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. Something’s a good idea. You shouldn’t have to force people to do it. We are in the second week of Advent, which is hard to believe. And Advent is the four Sundays before Easter. Christmas, and I’m here to help you with your Christmas shopping. And for that veteran that is in your life, why don’t you consider buying a brick that will be on one of the pathways of service for the USMC Memorial, which is out here in Golden, Colorado. The foundation is raising money for that remodel. It was dedicated in 1977. And so a great way to help them and to honor your loved one. is to buy a brick. You’ll get a beautiful certificate that can be framed and put on the wall. So more information, go to usmcmemorialfoundation.org. That is usmcmemorialfoundation.org. Pleased to have on the line with me, Daniel Turner. He is the founder of Power of the Future. Daniel Turner, welcome.
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Kim, it is great to be on your program. Thanks for having me back.
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It’s always such important conversations. And Daniel, this Biden administration is trying to leave all kinds of problems for the Trump administration. And at Power of the Future, and that website is powerofthefuture.com, you recently published something, the lame duck watch, White House distributes $100 billion in clean energy grants. I’m going to say green, and that’s the green that’s going into people’s pockets. So this is unbelievable.
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Yeah, we started this project, Lame Duck Watch, after the election, once the results were official. And because we knew the Biden administration on their way out the door was going to try to sabotage the incoming Trump administration on all things green, all things wind and solar. And the biggest accomplishment the Biden-Harris administration has in this space is if you can call it that, but their biggest accomplishment is money. And if you look at any of the cabinet secretaries, when they talk, if you listen to even Vice President Biden, Vice President Harris on the campaign trail, everything always came down to we’ve invested $50 billion here, we’ve invested $5 billion there, as if spending money were somehow a metric of success. regardless of whether or not these programs even work, money is everything. And so we knew once the election was clear, this administration would try to spend as much money as possible for two reasons. One, this will hopefully create a lot of obstacles for the incoming Trump administration. Once money’s out, it’s hard to get back. And if you have given money to these Green projects here and there or these green climate justice groups, which no one really knows what they do, they’re going to create a lot of problems going forward. And then second reason why they’re giving a lot of money, they’re buying golden parachutes. You look at someone like Secretary Granholm, the energy secretary, I’m proud to say the outgoing energy secretary, when she testified before Congress multiple times saying, They would rail on the fact that she never divested in any of these companies that were getting huge grants for electric buses, etc. And she would flat out just lie to Congress. This is where I get very frustrated with Republicans in Congress, because then they would go on radio and TV and say, this is outrageous. And I would be screaming, do something, right? Do something about it. If you’re not allowed to – if you’re breaking the law, if there’s an ethics complaint that I gave this company billions of dollars, oh, and I own stock in the company, do something about it. But they don’t. They just stop with the feigned indignation. Grants to these types of companies will guarantee that they will get jobs in the next – once the administration is done. These folks – They need an income. They need a health care plan. They need to put their 401k at work to work. And the best way to do it is to get a job on a board or as a strategic advisor at one of these companies who was the beneficiary of billions of dollars in grants from the Biden administration. So that’s what we’re keeping an eye on.
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How is it that the administration has all this money to give out? I thought that the House of Representatives was the one that had the purse strings.
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Yeah, this was all part of the Inflation Reduction Act, which the Biden administration says was around $400 billion in grants. But the Wall Street Journal estimated it to be closer to $1.2 billion. And the Inflation Reduction Act, if you and your wonderful listeners remember, and I’m sure you do, This passed almost two years ago. It was basically Christmas Eve. Not one Republican voted for it. And quite frankly, it did cost Senator Joe Manchin from West Virginia his job. He was the deciding vote. They promised him a whole bunch of carve-outs for West Virginia. He ultimately caved. None of those carve-outs came to be true. He was duped, and his constituents were livid at him. And Joe Manchin, who was up to this point… on energy issues, a great senator. Moderate Democrat, represented the people of West Virginia for years as a senator and previously as governor. He knew he was toast. He retired, even though he wanted to run again. So this Inflation Reduction Act is a disgusting poison pill of gobs of money. And sadly, it is signed into law. And just because it’s a law we disagree with, It doesn’t mean we have the right to not follow the law. So the Republicans have a huge burden on their shoulders starting in January to repeal as much of this as possible and claw back all of these green investments. And that’s going to be a problem. Because of Republicans, yes, there are governors like your governor in Colorado, Governor Hochul in New York, Governor Newsom. Democrat governors love the green cash. But there are a lot of Republicans who also like free cash. And you see Republican governors embracing wind and solar and transmission lines and carbon capture, the biggest scam ever. On the planet. And when when it comes time to repeal, it’s going to be those Republicans who are going to say, hey, how about you just keep my little corner of this is the problem with with with D.C. money. People get addicted to free money. Republicans are just as guilty as Democrats.
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Well, they really are. But the bigger picture is, is this is printing money, which creates this government-induced inflation, which is squeezing our families as they’re going to the grocery store, their energy costs. It’s squeezing our families. And it’s really, I think, immoral. So one of the first things I would… I would like us. I don’t not think the government should be giving out grants. I do not think that’s the proper role of government, Daniel Turner.
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No, I agree with you 100%. And when it comes to all of these green technologies and wind and solar and batteries, if there were a market demand for it, and this is why I love your show and I love your catchphrase, if these were great ideas and there was a market demand for it, we would not need to force it on the American people. And outside of government mandates… for renewable energy, so-called renewable, where your state, your governor, your city council says, by the year 2035, 50% of Colorado’s electricity has to come from wind or solar. Well, that’s a government mandate. And now if you’re a utility company, you say, holy goodness, I got to find some wind and solar. So you have to start finding wind and solar companies. And then the government swoops in and says, don’t worry, we have all this free money, and we’ll give it to you to put up wind and solar. If these were good technologies, if they worked, if the people wanted them, we wouldn’t need government mandates, and we wouldn’t need government cash. And the problem I think we’re going to face, which really does frighten me not to sound apocalyptic. But one of the things that frightens me is that the Trump administration is going to cut off those mandates and that cash, and you’re going to have municipalities nationwide that now have these awful wind and solar things that don’t work. And what do we do to their electricity, right? We’ve closed the coal plant. We’ve closed the natural gas plant. We’re praying that these things work. But when the money dries up to backstop it, What’s going to happen? And we know what’s going to happen because we look at places like Germany. We look at all of Western Europe where their electricity prices are going on 15, 20 times what ours are because the money has dried up and now they are paying the cost. going green and and it is bankrupting their economies Germans economy is in full-out recession because of their energy policies and that’s America’s future unfortunately and we have to let it happen that’s what breaks my heart Kim we have to let this happen because we cannot continue to backstop failed technology with government money
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Well, Daniel Turner, this day of reckoning is going to come one way or another. One could be on our choice, or the other is market forces eventually will just make it happen. And so let’s get in the driver’s seat on this. Daniel Turner, a couple of things. First of all, I had mentioned a Climate Conversation documentary in the first segment, which is the documentary that is the project of Walt Johnson. And we have created these amazing podcasts. And you are one of our guests on that podcast. And I would so recommend people check that out at climateconversation.com because it was just a great conversation. And people can learn more in depth of everything that’s happening at Power of the Future. So we thank you for doing that podcast.
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And it’s a wonderful documentary. I can’t recommend it to enough people. I’ve recommended it many times. I’ve watched it many times because I feel like I’m always learning as you listen to these experts talk about a real conversation on climate. And we’ve hit the point with some of our more prickly issues, climate being one of them, but we could also talk about the gender issue. We could talk about abortion. We could talk about education. Sadly, we’ve hit the point in our nation that we can’t have climate conversations. And I’ve said many times, and I’ve testified before Congress, and it’s never Friendly. It’s never a conversation. It is scream. I’m the one getting screamed at. Right. I can’t scream back because they would arrest me as contempt of Congress. But I get screamed at by these politicians who are so full of rage and anger. There’s no climate conversation to be had. And you watch this documentary and you do such an incredible job with it. where you just ask a very honest question and let’s talk about it. And if you are curious about the climate issue and you don’t know much about it, I cannot encourage you enough to watch this just brilliantly done and really easy to understand masterpiece. It really is wonderful.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, thank you, Daniel. I wasn’t quite expecting all that, but we do agree. And people have really said they appreciate just really the gentle questioning, the Socratic questioning, and that it’s really has helped people get their brain around these issues. And then the podcasts are super awesome. So we’re going to continue the discussion. with daniel turner who is the founder of power the future we get to have these conversations because of our sponsors and lauren levy can help you with anything mortgages in 49 of 50 states just not new york so again lauren levy for everything mortgages
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And welcome back to the Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter and can email me at Kim at Kim Munson dot com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We are an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something’s a good idea. You should not have to force people to do it. Another gift idea that I have for you is this great little Medal of Honor quote book from the Center for American Values. And the center is located in Pueblo because Pueblo is known as the home of heroes. Four Medal of Honor recipients grew up in Pueblo, Colorado, which is pretty remarkable. Andrew Dix, Medal of Honor recipient who grew up in Pueblo, and Brad Padula are the co-founders of the Center for American Values. It’s located on the beautiful Riverwalk, and they’re doing all kinds of great things. You can find that at AmericanValueCenter.org. But this little book is just beautifully done, so inspirational, and a lovely gift. So be sure and check that out at AmericanValueCenter.org. And Daniel Turner is on the line with us. He’s the founder of Power the Future, really focusing on the people that feed and fuel us. And first thing, Daniel Turner, this just came in on the headlines. And this is from The Sum and Substance. And it says, business leaders are deflated by preliminary state rules on carbon management. This is here in Colorado. It says, Colorado regulators… gave preliminary approval Thursday to the state’s first comprehensive rules on carbon capture and sequestration, stringent rules that business leaders warn could scare off projects that are needed to meet statewide emission reduction goals. And these rules from the Colorado Energy and Carbon Management Commission, any time I see the word commission, I think of 1984, which is Orwell’s book, but they’re said to give final approval on December 11th. which will include the state’s application to take regulatory primacy for the growing sector from the EPA. This is pretty scary, Daniel Turner.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, the whole carbon nonsense, and this is going to be an enormous responsibility for our incoming EPA administrator, Lee Zeldin. We need to define our terms before we can make policy. And one of the crafty things the Biden administration has done, and we’ve accepted it, we’ve somehow developed this notion that carbon and carbon dioxide are poisons. And need to somehow be regulated or can be even regulated. And the problem here is that it’s very similar to arguments in COVID. Arguments that we see in the trans movement, where when we just accept the fact that gender is a construct. And now we make policy based on that. And you have to go back to the premises of the argument and say, I don’t buy that premise. I don’t buy the premise that gender is a construct, a social construct. I don’t buy the premise that carbon dioxide is a pollutant. And so before we can even talk about regulating it, we need to have the EPA determine policy. What pollution actually is. I use this often when I talk to college students and I give these presentations on climate issues and I ask them what percentage of the air is carbon dioxide, right? The air that we call it air, atmospheric particles, etc., what percentage of it is carbon dioxide? Is it 12%? Is it 50? Anyone know? And then when you tell them it’s 0.04% of what we breathe, of what’s in the air is carbon dioxide. And you say, now that 0.04%, how much of that carbon dioxide is produced from humans breathing? Anyone know? And you say it’s 0.03%. So 0.03% of 0.04% is what we’re talking about. And as a reference, I usually put up a graphic of a football field because everyone knows football. And when you have the ball on third and inches, right? And if it’s inches, we’re so close to a first down, it’s inches. 0.03% of 0.04% of a football field is about 1 20th of an inch of the one yard line. So look at the entire football field and go to 1 20th of an inch of That’s what we’re arguing about. We’re spending trillions of dollars. We’re decimating third world nations. We’re empowering Russia and China and Iran with untold wealth to create hell around the world over Russia. 1 20th of an inch of the one yard line of the football field? How silly are we? How silly have we become in these climate arguments? And that’s the problem I have with the whole carbon capture movement. We have allowed the left to define the terms, and we need to take a number of steps back and say, this is all absolute stupidity. I’m not playing your carbon capture game anymore.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, and the other thing is carbon dioxide is plant food. We might want to also mention that. And so when there’s more carbon dioxide, plants thrive and flourish. And, gosh, I like thriving and flourishing for plants and people and the whole thing. So questions? Generally, I’ve been pretty excited about many of the announcements for Donald Trump’s picks for his cabinet and other important positions. But I am concerned, first of all, regarding Kristi Noem. My understanding is that she’s been very pro-carbon pipelines and all that goes with that and The more I’m learning about that, it seems to me like it’s a land grab. So I’m concerned about Kristi Noem. What’s your thoughts on all that, Daniel Turner?
SPEAKER 08 :
I am not surprised that Governor Noem got a position in Department of Homeland Security, meaning that she did not get a job in one of the energy-focused areas. And if you recall, even on the campaign trail, President Trump would say that he loves RFK. He understands RFK’s mission and making America healthy and looking at the ingredients in our food and working with small farmers. But then he would joke, but I’m going to keep him away from the oil, right? I’m going to take care of the oil because he knows on the climate issues and on energy issues, RFK is a disaster. He’s an absolute climate lunatic. So focus on our food. I’d like to know what the ingredients of our food are. And I think that’s a great place for him to spend his time. And similarly for Governor Noem, I have a huge problem with Republican governors who, as I mentioned earlier, are addicted to free money from the federal government to push a climate agenda. And that’s exactly what the Biden administration did with Governor Noem and with many other Republican governors. They give them free money to say, if you build this carbon capture facility, if you lay the pipelines to get the carbon dioxide to the facility, we’ll pay for everything. And then the governors get to say, we got this grant and we created jobs. And all of that is very attractive, right? 5,000 new jobs created this month, and they’re all construction, blue collar, and You take photos with the labor union. But we’re building nonsense. Right. We could hire FDR did this masterfully. We could hire millions of people to dig ditches and fill them back in. And I don’t think Keynesian economics works. are a solution to fixing the climate. And that’s all they have in their back pocket is spending money and hiring people to do silly jobs. I have a big problem with the carbon capture agenda. And I do have a problem with using executive powers imminent domain to force people to give up their land to lay carbon dioxide, carbon capture pipelines against their will when the whole thing is a bunch of hokum. It really is. The whole thing is a bunch of nonsense. As I said earlier, Republicans are just as guilty of being bribed by free cash.
SPEAKER 16 :
They are. And then last question. Doug Burgum, who is the governor of North Dakota, is pretty cozy with Bill Gates. And Bill Gates, in fact, gave $100,000 to his gubernatorial campaign or in support of his gubernatorial campaign. So I’m a bit concerned. And let’s see, Doug Burgum is Department of Interior, right?
SPEAKER 08 :
Interior, yes. And their relationship is based on nuclear energy. I think this says a lot more about Bill Gates than it does about Governor Burgum. Bill Gates is building these enormous data centers everywhere around the country because we’re moving to this AI technology and AI requires technology. A huge amount of electricity and coupled with his micro with his AI data centers is he is constructing micro nuclear reactors because they need they need power. There was an article not long ago that Bill Gates is reopening a reactor to a three mile island, the famous three mile island where nothing happened. but the media scared us throughout the 80s that we were all going to die from nuclear fallout. Bill Gates is reopening Reactor 2 at Three Mile Island to power his new data center. I’m fine with that, but I have some huge concerns. Mostly, I think it’s comical that for the rest of us, Bill Gates wants wind and solar. But when it comes to his profits… He wants nuclear, right? He’s not building a wind farm, right? He’s like, no, I need these things to work. I can’t risk my data center on the wind or whether or not the sun is going to shine. I don’t know where you are today, but here in rural Virginia, it’s completely dark, cloudy, overcast, pouring rain, no wind. Your wind and solar right now is doing absolutely nothing. And Bill Gates says, I can’t risk that. I got money to make. So he’s building nuclear. That’s a concern I have. And secondly, I’m concerned of the corporatism, because the American people deserve to reopen reactor two for cheap electricity. Why is it that corporations get to swoop in? So I’m not concerned at all about Doug Burgum. I think he’s a fantastic pick. I think he understands the need for technology and reliable electricity, and he’ll make sure it happens. I am concerned that people like Bill Gates get to write gigantic checks to get nuclear reactors built when our governors and our city councilmen, et cetera, don’t have that same political pressure just because they want to serve their constituents. They will put crappy wind and solar that is inefficient, expensive, Chinese-made with slave labor. They’ll stick the American people with that. But corporations that write big checks can get the good electricity. And that is a huge concern I have going forward.
SPEAKER 16 :
I love the fact that you are just right to the point, Daniel Turner. And I would recommend that people get on your list for PowerTheFuture.com. We’ll talk again soon. And I wish you and yours a very Merry Christmas. Thank you.
SPEAKER 08 :
Thank you, Kim. God bless.
SPEAKER 16 :
God bless you as well. And so my friends today, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals, and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you. God bless America. Stay tuned for our number one.
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Yes, Kim, what is happening, just so you have the picture from 30,000 feet up as a consumer looking at the entire picture. In 2022, for example, 76% of the insurers in Colorado scaled back in high-risk areas. That resulted in higher premiums for those folks that were still here. By scaling back, they made it very difficult to get insurance and very expensive to get insurance. So what happens when you can’t find insurance? Let’s say you’re in a high-risk area, a wildfire area, for example, or you’re in Colorado in an intense hail area. I’ll give you an example. I had a friend that called me, and he was buying a house in Colorado Springs, and he signed the contract, ready to go, and only to find out he couldn’t acquire insurance. No one would insure this house because it was in a hail zone, and on top of that, on the edge of a national forest. So the whole deal fell through because he couldn’t find insurance We had a mortgage, so we wanted to make sure that, of course, a mortgage company wants insurance, right? So what’s going on here is a phenomenal, I think, renaissance in terms of looking at insurance a different and a new way. So what’s happened, by the way, in Colorado to ameliorate this kind of a problem? In 2023, the legislature passed what’s called a fair plan, which is common in high-risk areas like Florida, California. a fair plan as an acronym stands for fair access to insurance requirements plan so if that’s the case the fair plan how’s that going in colorado well in 2024 after the legislation was passed in 23 they’re in the process of creating this insurance plan For those who cannot find insurance, there are people that just can’t find it. So this fair plan basically says that we will insure your home for up to $750,000. There’s a limit. And if it’s a commercial property, up to $5 million so you can get insurance. But that insurance isn’t very… It’s not really good, but it’s your only choice. So that $750,000 house, you might need a million dollars of insurance on it, but you can only buy 750 through this plan that the state is developing. And by the way, that plan is sponsored or funded by insurance companies, they are going to assess a company based on their fair market share. So let’s say State Farm has 20% of the market share in Colorado on homeowners. We’re going to pay 20% of whatever that assessment is to create a reserve to pay the claims on these properties that are in high-risk areas. And how is that going? It’s not available yet. We don’t have all the details, but it’s well underway. So the FARE plan, I think, is our answer to the problems we’ve already talked about, insurance getting out of control for costs. And insurance companies saying, hey, we’re out of here. And a lot of companies are leaving Colorado because they don’t have the reserve and they can’t pay these claims. So, by the way, make sure whoever you’re going with, check them out. Are they an A-plus company, AAA, depending on the rating agency?
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Back to the Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is KimMunson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter, and you can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We’re an independent voice, and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. Thank you, Joe. I just asked Joe a question, and he had that in my ear. if i lost my train of thought that’s what happened there a couple of things i did want to mention the colorado union of taxpayers which is an all-volunteer group that watches legislation that is scheduled for hearing down at the state house and of course the legislature will convene the first part of january we’d love to have you be a member It’s only $25. We are going to have a legislative kickoff on the 23rd of January. And we’d, again, love to have you join us. And it’s only $25. And this group, when you see them, say thank you to Steve Dorman, Greg Golianski, Russ Haas, Bill Hamill, Carl Honaker, Rob Knuth, John Nelson, Joseph O’Loughlin, Wendy Warner, Marty Nielsen, Rami Johnson, and Mary Jansen. They are spending a lot of time. to stay on top of all this, and I do really, really appreciate them. On the line with me is Rich Guggenheim, and he is the Colorado Director, I think, of Legislative Affairs for Gays Against Groomers. Rich Guggenheim, welcome. Did I get that right?
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, actually, I am just the Director of Legislation for the whole country now.
SPEAKER 16 :
Oh, so that’s why you were in Washington, D.C., huh?
SPEAKER 17 :
That’s correct. Yep. A lot bigger plate to deal with.
SPEAKER 16 :
This is huge, and you sent over some of the photos and videos of your time in Washington, D.C., and then you sent this over from Radar, and it says, Gays Against Groomers went to the U.S. Supreme Court to fight for Tennessee’s right to save children. So when did you go, and again, this was the oral arguments on this particular case, so set this up for us. When did you go? What happened?
SPEAKER 17 :
All right, well, I’ll set it up before I got there. We were asked as an organization if we would help write an amicus curiae. And I thought, sure, I’ve never done this before, but I will approach this from my background as a scientist and worked with several other organizations on this. We had detransitioners that were able to share their story. I approached it from a science background. and threw in some science journal articles from medical journals that showed the harm of it. I decided with others that we should throw in some case law that sets the case that says that states do not have the right to harm children, and that gender-affirming care is not, in fact, care, but is harmful, that we demonstrated in the science piece of it. And then the transition stories of the harms that have been caused by it, We were truly honored and humbled by the fact that this amicus out of the many, many, many amicus that were submitted was chosen for oral arguments. So I got to go. I got a ticket to be in the Supreme Court while oral arguments were happening. And that was truly a unique, humbling experience. Our friend Travis Morrell was there. I was also asked to speak at a rally that was being held outside on the steps of the Supreme Court. And I got to talk where I made it clear that we as gay and lesbian people have never supported anything that would harm children. And if the LGBTIQA plus community seeks to undo the harm that they have done to themselves, we’ve got to support policies that ensure the safety and well-being of our children. And so that happened. That was really intense. I had a lot of Media coverage, as you alluded to, some friendly and also some people that were very unfriendly towards all of that. And then afterwards, I had the opportunity to go over and have lunch at the Heritage Foundation. I did not realize that my speech was retweeted by Elon Musk, viewed over 22 million times.
SPEAKER 04 :
Oh, my gosh.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, and my phone’s just going crazy with the pop-up notifications, and I’m like, oh, hey, I’m trying to read a speech. But that led to an incredible opportunity. I want to say thank you to our friends, Greg and Lisa Lopez, who opened so many doors for us. I got to speak with Speaker Mike Johnson. I got to talk with Marjorie Taylor Greene, Nancy Mace, Stephen Scalise, It was just a huge list of people that we got to speak to. And on Wednesday afternoon, we went over and spoke to Senator Marshall, Robert Marshall out of Kansas. And I had a dad with me whose son has, he’s lost his son to a gender ideology, started transitioning at two. His ex started transitioning their two-year-old son. And I wanted him to hear that story. Because that’s super impactful as a dad. I’m sure you can imagine this man telling the story and losing his child to this. And so the next day, Senator Marshall introduced a bill in the Senate to ban gender-affirming care on minors.
SPEAKER 16 :
Really? Yes. Okay, and that would be federal law, so that would be across the complete United States, yes?
SPEAKER 17 :
Yes. And so I really hope that we can get all of the senators. This shouldn’t even be, as you and I have talked, this should not be a right versus left. This should be right versus wrong. And I think that there should be 100 senators who will sign on to this bill. We know that’s not going to be the case, but this is really going to put people on public record to show, do you support the mutilation of children? And that’s one of the things that you may have seen the video about. We were in the Hall of Congress and we ran across AOC and we asked her, why do you support butchering children under the guise of inclusivity?
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, I watched that video that you sent over, yeah, and you were like a dogged journalist behind her and she just was really ignoring you.
SPEAKER 17 :
Well, what you didn’t see was she was having the gaggle That’s a term referring to a small press conference. It’s just a little group of media people. And one of the media outlets that was there just went off on us for interrupting his press conference. And I looked at him and I’m like, who are you? And he’s like, I’m the press. I’m like, I’m her constituent. She works for me.
SPEAKER 16 :
You said that?
SPEAKER 17 :
I did. I did.
SPEAKER 16 :
Rich Guggenheim, this has been quite the journey for you. Did you ever dream that you would be in Washington, D.C. at the Supreme Court? This has been quite the journey.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yes, it has been the journey. And no, I never thought that I would do that. If you know where I’m from, I am from a little small town in Colorado. We don’t even have a stoplight. It’s a small town that is 14 blocks long and three blocks wide. And if the river floods, then it’s even smaller. So it’s, you know, you just, I will tell you this. If you’ve ever been to the state Capitol or you’ve ever been to Washington, D.C., this is our government. And it is so important for us to make our voices heard. And in this case, I had a truly humbling experience to be able to go there and tell this story and say that this ideology robs children of their innocence and it deprives them of the freedom to grow up and live healthy happy productive adult lives and we have to stop that
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, it is such an attack on our children. So tell us about the Supreme Court case. And this is what Tennessee has a law that would be banning the gender mutilation of children. And they’re being sued for that. So this has made it all to the Supreme Court, correct?
SPEAKER 17 :
Correct. And this case is one of the, I think there are 24 states across the country right now that have passed bans on gender affirming, what’s known as gender affirming care on minors. So this pediatric gender affirming care really comes down to being the right for some people to say to its bodily autonomy. What I don’t believe is that a child can make a decision with their prefrontal cortex having not been developed to say, I want to pump myself full of hormones, wrong sex hormones. I want to pump myself full of off-label drugs that we know cause harm, sterility, cancer. And there’s just so many side effects of this that we could go on all day about that. But you could read the science. We also, you know, we’re chopping off healthy body parts. And it was absolutely shocking to me to hear Justice Sotomayor talk about removing healthy body parts from children as if it was a haircut. Now, you and I both know that our hair grows back. I have to go get my haircut every few weeks because of that. But if you chop off an arm, it’s not going to grow back. If you chop off a leg, it’s not going to grow back. And so this idea that it is something as simple as getting your haircut is so deeply insulting and shows an absolute lack of compassion for and understanding of human physiology and biology. She thinks that this is how it works. And I also thought when she’s talking about this, how insulting it must be to women who have survived certain forms of cancer and have to have certain body parts removed for her to just say, remove it like it’s a haircut.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, and then I’d seen a headline regarding Supreme Court Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson that was trying to make this gender mutilation of children a civil rights issue. So were you there when she was commenting on that?
SPEAKER 17 :
I was. And it’s not a civil right. It’s a civil wrong. Nobody has the right. to mutilate a child, and a child does not have the right to consent to something that they cannot fully understand the lifetime of complications that are going to result from it. And I don’t believe that. We heard people saying, oh, I knew my child was trans. They started telling me they were in the wrong body at 18 months. Your child can’t even string together a coherent sentence at that age. Why are you insisting that they’re trans? It’s this logic. It’s not logic. It is propaganda.
SPEAKER 16 :
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SPEAKER 16 :
And welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is KimMunson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. And thank you to all of you who support us. We are an independent voice and we are independent because of great sponsors. And I thank Laramie Energy for their gold sponsorship of the show. It is reliable, efficient, affordable, and abundant energy that powers our lives and fuels our hopes and dreams. All that is under attack because our oil, gas, and coal industry are under regulatory bureaucratic attack, particularly here in Colorado. We’re at the tip of the spear for all of this stuff that’s happening. We’re at the tip of the spear, I think, on this gender mutilation of children as well. And that’s why the Supreme Court case… And it’s Grimetti versus Tennessee that was heard last week. And Rich Guggenheim, who lives here in Colorado, he is the director of legislative affairs for Gays Against Groomers. And Rich Guggenheim, set this up the day that you went to the Supreme Court, going into the chambers. What happened? How they introduced the case? What does all that look like?
SPEAKER 17 :
That is, well, first of all, you get there, if you are brave enough to camp out overnight, you camp out overnight. And then in this case, being such a high profile case, there’s a lot of people there camping out. And you get there and you’re waiting in this line and they come out and they hand out tickets. Under normal circumstances, they issue about 50 tickets. And then there’s a public viewing line where the public is allowed to go in and view it for three minutes. In this case, they took away the public viewing line, and they opened up more seats for interested parties to come and sit. So you get in there, and then there’s – it’s very – it almost feels like pomp and circumstance to a certain extent. You know, when you come into a normal courtroom, everybody stands, and then there’s – They say the honorable judge so-and-so is presiding, all rise. You stand up, the judge sits down, and you sit down. But then there’s like this whole ceremony that comes along with this. You know, everybody stands up, and then they say the honorable justice so-and-so and the associate justices, and they read the theme, and they’re like, oy, oy, oy, and it’s – Then after that’s done, they sit down. And each side, in this case, you have both sides of the attorneys on both sides representing. And in this case, the ACLU was representing the people who support mutilating children. And their attorney was the first transgender identifying person to argue a case before the United States Supreme Court. And then we had our side. Each side gets 30 minutes to make their case. And there’s some back and forth between the justices and the attorneys on these issues. And it was quite a fascinating experience. For those of you who, your listeners who may be interested, you can go to the Supreme Court website and listen to the audio version of it. You can’t bring anything into the courtroom with you. You can’t even bring your Apple Watch with you. So everything comes off. And it’s quite fascinating because, you know, you’re just there and it is so much to take in. It’s quite the experience. You know, you’re just trying to. really use all of your senses while you’re there to absorb the moment that you are living in right now. And I truly, honestly believe that this was a defining moment in the history of the United States. And it’s going to change the trajectory that we are going down with gender ideology. This is the first domino to fall.
SPEAKER 16 :
So all of the justices come in and each side has 30 minutes to present. Is there a back and forth between each side as they’re presenting and the justices? Do they ask questions or what does that look like?
SPEAKER 17 :
No, it’s usually, you know, you have each side gets their 30 minutes and the justices will go back and forth with that lawyer and they’ll say this. There’s questions that they’re going to ask and statements that they’re going to make during it that kind of gave you a clue as to the cards that they’re going to play. I think when they issue their, it’s called an opinion, not a ruling or a verdict. So when they issue their opinion, you can kind of tell where they’re leaning. I really felt that there’s a great, strong presence among some of the justices that they are going to oppose this. And then there’s others. And I have to say this about Justice Barrett. She seems more neutral on this issue, maybe even a little bit on the fence. And so I’m hoping that that’s just because she actually has some jurisprudence on this and she is discreet. But then there are others that you could just tell, like, oh, yeah, we are playing this as a social justice right. Or no, we are absolutely opposed to this. And so it’s kind of fascinating to see that piece of it as you’re sitting there and you’re listening. You can almost tell. And there are just moments in that there where you hear the argument being made. And for me, you know, you’re trying to keep your composure because you’re absolutely silent in this room. But you get that knot in your stomach as you hear it. And then there’s other times where you’re just like, yes, zing. And so it’s kind of an emotional roller coaster for you being in that courtroom. And I suppose it’s that way for everybody, regardless of what side of the issue you’re on on that particular case.
SPEAKER 16 :
Wow. Okay. So and how long was the case heard?
SPEAKER 17 :
it’s, it’s, it runs about an hour to an hour and a half. It gets, you know, with all of the, the, the pieces that take up the most time, honestly, are for us to get in there, put our stuff in the locker, go through the security. And it’s like the thing that you go through at the airport where you stand there and you put your arm up and it goes around you. And it’s literally the same kind of same machine. And so by the time everybody gets through that and into that, and you get into your seat and it’s, You’re in there for probably a good two and a half to three hours.
SPEAKER 16 :
Okay. Okay. Next question. I saw this article that just recently came out. Let me give the credit here. This is from, it’s called Stacker. And it says, how the Supreme Court case on trans youth could affect health care for all Americans. Okay. And it says this case, and again, they use all the words of gender affirming care. No, it’s gender mutilation. So I’ll change some of the words. It says the Supreme Court case that will decide whether Tennessee can continue to ban gender mutilation for transgender youth could imperil the ability of all Americans to make decisions about their health care, experts say. The outcome depends on how far the court is willing to stretch its ruling that overturned federal abortion rights. And I love it when they say experts, but they don’t say who that expert is. This is all part of, I think, kind of journalism that’s trying to affect people’s opinions. So what would you say to this? Is there trying to use this as a, quote unquote, a scare tactic for people to make decisions about their health care?
SPEAKER 17 :
That’s exactly what it is. And it has nothing to do with that. The whole premise of this case is ending the gender mutilation of children. This is not about depriving anybody of the rights to receive health care because this is not care. This isn’t about health. It deprives people of that. And as I said earlier, this is about forcing an ideology on children and parents without giving them all of the facts that will later deprive children of of the freedom to live happy, healthy, productive adult lives. And that’s wrong. There’s nothing, nothing acceptable about what we’re doing to children, and we’re literally butchering them and sterilizing them. And the fact that a lot of parents, and a lot of people say we should be going after the parents. I think a lot of parents are also manipulated into this because we have this pharma-medical media industry lying to them, withholding information from them. And you may have heard about the lawsuit that was filed against the top pediatric gender sex change operator. That person is also the same person who withheld publishing information in science that showed that there was no positive outcomes for children who undergo this emotionally.
SPEAKER 16 :
Oh, yeah. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure that out. And I’m seeing all kinds of headlines on bureaucrats that are manipulating data, whether or not it might be water quality or this. These bureaucratic agencies have really lost about all credit with me, and I think many more people are waking up to that as well. Rich Guggenheim.
SPEAKER 17 :
Oh, absolutely. And I think that’s the important thing that we have to, we have to shine the light on this stuff. And I think as you say, these experts. People don’t trust the experts anymore because the truth is coming out. We don’t trust the media anymore, and that’s why you see legacy media dying. We don’t trust the science anymore because the scientists are being bought and paid for by special interests. And it’s these same people who are buying up the media, buying up the politicians, and driving this agenda that is harming Americans and depriving us of freedom and liberty.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, and that’s why the work that you’re doing is so important. So just clarify just one more time. You said that Elon Musk tweeted out, or not tweeted, X’d out, I guess, your speech from the steps of the Supreme Court. And 23 million people looked at that. Did I hear that correctly?
SPEAKER 17 :
Yes, which was, it was crazy. Yep, that is right. And I really… if he ever gets the opportunity to hear me or meet me or hear this, I just, I appreciate what he is doing to protect children. And he’s got a special interest in this as his own child with one of his own children. So yeah, 23 million people have viewed that speech and it’s, it was crazy. And one of the experiences to walk into the heritage foundation and they have a big screen in their, in their lobby with all the new stuff. And there’s literally me doing a media interview on TV at the heritage foundation and
SPEAKER 16 :
That’s really cool. How can people find the speech?
SPEAKER 17 :
You can find it on our Gays Against Groomers X feed. It’s against groomers. You can also find it online. I’ve got it online. It’s 5280 based homo. And I’ve got that. And you can see some of the other clips that were more interesting during my time there at the U.S. Supreme Court.
SPEAKER 16 :
Okay, Rich Guggenheim, changing gears just a little bit, kind of the final question, is Colorado is really at the tip of the spear on this transgender mutilation of children with legislation and bureaucratic decisions. Do you, your ear to the ground, do you hear of any other things regarding this whole gender question that’s going to be brought forth in this next legislative session?
SPEAKER 17 :
Yes, there is this rumor that I’m hearing that there is a plan to introduce a transgender bill of rights here in Colorado. I worked with some of our representatives during the interim to write bills. I’ve got about 10 bills that I’ve proposed. I know one of them that has been, we’re going to continue working on a parent’s bill of rights. We’ve got a detransitioners bill of rights. There’s one, again, that we’re going to try again with our ballot initiative to save girls’ sports. Um, we are coming up when there’s a faith act, which is going to prevent non custodial parents from sheltering and housing children. We’ve got the stream act, which will require schools to stream all classroom content because it really helps neurodivergent children who get sick. I love to not get behind, but, um, you know, we’ve got so many bills that we’re working on. And just so you know, at the federal level, since I’ve been in DC, I talked to, um, Senator Marshall, as I said, but I’ve also talked to our own Lauren Boebert, and I’ve talked with Nancy Mace, and I submitted three draft bills to introduce at the federal level, Save Girls Sports, Parents Bill of Rights, and Detransitioners Bill of Rights.
SPEAKER 16 :
Wow. How can people follow you, and how can people help you?
SPEAKER 17 :
Well, you can follow me on 5280BasedHomo on all of the socials. You can also follow Gays Against Screamers. And, you know, I’ll just say this. As you can imagine, these things all cost money. This trip to D.C. alone was about $1,600. So anybody who can donate to help cover those costs, we definitely appreciate your donation. If you are part of the LGB or T community, join us if this is something that you believe in protecting children. And if you’re just an ally, we definitely need you in this fight, too. Go to our website. Subscribe to our newsletter. Follow us on all of the socials. And when we have rallies, when we have school board meetings, when we have the need to sign up and testify at the state capitol, at the school board, at the city council, I just did a training on Saturday night on how to testify. We need people to show up and testify. These are your children. These are our children that are being mutilated. And we have to fight to protect them. And I know we work. I know we have a lot on our plates. But Our children are the most sacred thing that we have been entrusted to provide for and take care of, and we need to do all we can to protect them.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, I totally agree. And, Rich Guggenheim, thank you. And thank you. Pretty exciting, pretty impressive, and pretty courageous on going to Washington, D.C. So keep me in the loop on everything that’s happening. I greatly appreciate it.
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Yeah, will do. Thank you, Kim.
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But how many regular people are murdered in New York City after this? And they haven’t sent in the FBI or put much of the NYPD on their cases. In God’s eyes, we are equal. But it doesn’t seem like it is in this world right now. And I was thinking about that. Gammy had texted me that Bond was denied for, let me get to that, for Tina Peters. And I was thinking, how is it that she’s sitting in jail for just some process crimes and bios, passwords, security breach and crimes? the Jenner Griswold secretary of state office had breached the bios passwords, had them on a website for their, their website for four months. I justice is supposed to be equal. And, uh, so I agree with our listener and let me just check this, um, because I, this came in early this morning. Let me just check that. It says, um, Hmm. Okay, it says Tina did not get bond. I have not checked that out, but I think that’s really, really unfortunate. But again, I think that there are those that are trying to put the great fear. I will just say that in our county clerks. Let’s see here. Okay, so this is from one of our listeners. Jenny said, if she recalls, Polis received grant money regarding about $1.6 million each year for four years to hire more counselors regarding, it looks like that’s drugs, stop drugs. And so they create the problem and they want the solution. Of course, that costs all of us a whole bunch of money. Let’s see here. Okay. Okay, so this is from Eric. He said, compare what the government did in Australia to ban their kids from TikTok or X or Instagram to prevent the exposure of kids to transgenderism. What Obama did years ago in the USA was to… create all this information regarding transgenderism. And it says it’s in our schools now. We’re going to have Cain on at the end of the week. I think he’s going to be in on Friday. It’s important that we continue to shed light on all of this that’s going on here. 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It’s closing its doors for good on December 31st, according to social media posts. And it says the advent of COVID, steadily increasing costs, including food, paper products, wages, insurance, and taxes, have forced us to raise prices to levels that are increasingly not affordable for many of our customers, the owner said in a post. Try as we might, we have not found a satisfying solution to the challenges we face. We give a heartfelt thanks to those of you who have supported us for these many years. And it says for 66 years, the family owned restaurant has offered Democrats affordable Mexican style dishes beyond just tacos. And the owner said taco houses, cheese enchiladas and enchilada sauce had become signature menu items. But get that. Do you hear this increasing costs? That would be government induced inflation, insurance costs and taxes. So those are the things that we need to get under control. And we’re going to go to work on all this with our DOJ, that’s Department of Government Efficiency Colorado. And that is a work in progress, but we’re going to… invite all of you to help us with this because we need to reclaim our state and our colorado 2024 election project which we have those two lawsuits are filed and they’re in that legal ping pong back and forth but those were both filed before the election giving a standing and we’re going to work on a third lawsuit to be able to um really look at our elections and then would like to create legislation to fix these legal loopholes that I think are really making it difficult for us to ascertain for sure that we have free, fair, honest and transparent elections here in Colorado. So, my friends, we’ve got a great week planned for you. 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