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In today’s episode, Kim Monson analyzes the bizarre stats coming out of the Social Security system, with millions listed at implausibly high ages. Together with guest Kevin Lundberg, they explore the nature of government inefficiencies and discuss the ongoing legislative session where a staggering number of bills have been introduced. Furthermore, the show touches upon contemporary cultural shifts regarding educational priorities and the impact of these on everyday life skills.
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Indeed, let’s have a conversation, and welcome to the Kim Monson Show. Thank you so much for joining us. You’re each treasured, you’re valued, you have purpose. Today, strive for excellence, take care of your heart, your soul, your mind, and your body. My friends, we were made for this moment in history. And thank you to the team. That’s Producer Joe, Luke, Rachel, Zach, Echo, Charlie, Mike, Teresa, Amanda, all the people here at Crawford Broadcasting. Happy Tuesday, Producer Joe. Happy Tuesday, Kim. And it is still winter out there. And so take it easy on your way into work today. Don’t go too fast and get there in one piece. That’s important. Check out my website. That is Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter there. You’ll get first look at our upcoming guests as well as our most recent essays. You can email me at Kim at Kim Monson dot com. And thank you to all of you who support us. We are an independent voice on an independent station. We think independently and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something’s a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. Socialism is not about free stuff. The free stuff is just to try to get you to vote for it. But it’s such a bad idea that ultimately socialism has to come down to force. And it’s never compassionate to take other people’s stuff, whether or not it’s their rights, their property, freedom, livelihoods, opportunities, their childhoods, or their lives via force. And force could be a weapon, but policy, unpredictable and excessive taxation, fear, coercion, government-induced inflation, the World Economic Forum agenda. It plays out with the globalist elites agenda through the United Nations. We’re seeing it play out at the Colorado State Legislature with this Colorado governor. Land use codes, zoning regulations, force fees, conservation easements, national monument designations, all those things control property. Even though you think you might own it, you don’t, because if you can’t control your property, you don’t own your property. Remember, if something’s a good idea, you should not have to use force to implement it. We focus on the issues and the people regarding those issues, but we work really diligently to stay out of all the personality eighth grade fighting. And so we want to stay disciplined to looking at those issues. And the show comes to you 6 to 8 a.m. Monday through Friday. On all KLZ platforms, those are KLZ 560 AM, KLZ 100.7 FM, the KLZ website, and the KLZ app. So our word of the day is muster. It’s an intransitive verb, and thank you to my friend Yvonne. She is a linguist, and she is really great on… And things about language. So yesterday I said, cut the mustard and regarding I was referring to something. And I, as I was saying, and I was wondering, is that the right word? And so I did some more research on all this and she called and she said, it’s, it could be past the muster. And muster is to call troops together for inspection, to cause to come together or gather, or to bring it into existence or readiness, a summon up. So as I looked at this more, pass the muster, but there is actually, has been, cut the mustard has been a term that has been used as well. And so this is from dictionary.com. And it says, where does the phrase cut the mustard come from? So that is a phrase as well. And this says from dictionary.com, as with many slang and idiomatic phrases, the origin of cut the mustard isn’t so clear cut. It says to cut the mustard is to reach or surpass the desired standard or performance or more generally to succeed to have the ability to do something. Most often the phrase is used in negative constructions for when something doesn’t live up to expectations or can’t do the job. So, for example, the quarterback couldn’t cut the mustard. So it cuts the mustard appears to be an American original. Evidence for the phrase can be found in Galveston, Texas, a newspaper in 1891 and 1892. The author, O. Henry, who spent many years in Texas, where he may have picked up the expression used to cut the mustard in his 1907 collection of short stories, The Heart of the West. I looked around and found a proposition that exactly cut the mustard. And it says the word mustard itself goes back via French to the Latin mustoom, which was an altogether different substance. It was the juice squeezed from grapes before it was made into wine. Mustard is so named because the condiment was originally made by making mustard seeds into a paste with must. And it says it’s not exactly clear what cut the mustard does has to do with excellence. But then it goes on to say others have suggested connections to the phrase pass muster when a soldier gets approval after troops are assembled together for inspection. So Yvonne, thank you for that because I was questioning myself. And so there’s pass the muster, cut the mustard. And so our word for today is muster. And that is to pass inspection. It is spelled M-U-S-T-E-R. Your challenge is to use that in a sentence today so that you can impress your friends and family with your expanded vocabulary. Our quote of the day is from George Washington, and he was born February 22nd, 1732. He died December 14, 1799. And this was a quote, a letter to Edmund Randolph in 1795 regarding truth. He says, there is but one straight course, and that is to seek truth and to pursue it steadily. And that is what we are doing here on the show. Today, the bill of the day is Senate Bill 113. Prime sponsors on this are Democrat Senator Jeff Bridges, Republican Senator Barbara Kirkmeyer, and then Democrat Representative Shannon Byrd. and Republican Representative Rick Taggart. It’s the Mid-Year Adjustments to School Funding Cut. The Colorado Union of Taxpayers is recommending a no vote on this, and this is our commentary on it. It said, this bill from the Joint Budget Committee increases the state share of school districts total program funding by a little over 64 million for the 2024-2025 budget year due to increased total enrollment. Although lower at risk students and lower than expected local property tax supportive schools. I find that hard to believe, but continue on. Cut the Colorado Union taxpayer opposes this due to poor initial forecasting. The total budget shortfall that already exists in the low school performance. How much of this, we asked, how much of this increased enrollment is due to undocumented immigrants, and should taxpayers pay for this additional burden? So that is Senate Bill 113, and we are recommending a no vote on that. today there will be a continued debate on the Senate bill zero zero three which is the magazine bill it is a real assault upon our Colorado here in Colorado our Second Amendment rights and so stay tuned on that apparently there has been Uh, amendments that have been proposed, and thank you for amendments to try to make a bad bill. Uh, better, but it’s just a bad bill. It just needs to go down. Uh, and this is the semi automatic, semi automatic firearms and rapid fire device. Senate Bill 25003. The prime sponsors on this are Senator Tom Sullivan and Senator Julie Gonzalez and Representative Andrew Boesenecker and Representative Meg Froelich. They’re all Democrats, and this is really an assault upon our Second Amendment rights, the right for us to keep and bear firearms to protect ourselves against bad actors. And so we’ll stay tuned on what is happening with that. Our first, let’s see, our first headline that I wanted to go through, I found this really interesting. I hadn’t really been paying attention to this. And this is the U.S., or this is the Invictus Games. And I was talking with some people the other night and it was pretty huge that the U.S. team beat the Canadian team. And within the first nine seconds, there were three fights. Apparently, the American anthem was booed. And apparently the record for the Canadian, I think the goalie has been, he’s been almost undefeated. So this was one of his first defeats in this game. So I was trying to find more information about this yesterday, and it was difficult to find. I thought, huh, that is so interesting. So this morning I did find more news reports that the U.S. had beat the Canadian team. But trying to find then the finals on it, I think the U.S. won. Text me and let me know. 720-605-0647. And then I also saw, going through headlines on these Invictus Games, that Ukraine had a record number of medals that they received. Okay, that’s cool. But then if you read further down into the story, the U.S. led the medal count there. I thought… That is really curious that these headlines are focusing on other countries and not talking about what a big deal this was that the U.S. won. And so that was one of the first things that I wanted to mention. Next thing, Colonel Rutledge, you all know him. He’s a consistent contributor to the show. He’s 96 years young, and he’s traveled the world, visited with many different people, and he brought up something super interesting. And Joanne Fabric’s retailer is going to close many of their stores due to bankruptcy. And Colonel Rutledge said, I wonder if this is again, it’s a fabric store, a craft store. I wonder if it’s that the curriculum is no longer teaching sewing and home economics apprenticeships. And I think that he’s absolutely right. There is a lot of young people that don’t know how to sew a button on. may not even own a thread and needle. And these are basic things to take care of oneself. And also home economics, how to run a household. And a lot of this comes out of, I think, the radical activist feminist movement where girls were taught that this was beneath them to do these chores, to run a household and to have children and to learn to sew. and make your own clothes, all those things. And Colonel Rutledge said after his wife, Virginia, had passed on, they had purchased a sewing machine for her when they were, I think in Japan, a really great sewing machine. And he offered it to many different schools and hardly any of the schools would take it. And so one has to ask, here we are with this curriculum that’s being pushed on the LGBTQ plus agenda and the transgender agenda and having kids question whether or not they’re a boy or a girl or whether or not they’re a human being or an animal. That that is happening, and again, we’re putting more money with this particular Senate bill that I highlighted here, the Senate Bill 113. We’re putting more money towards that, but our kids don’t know the basic things on how to take care of themselves. And so I thought that was a really interesting point by Colonel Rutledge. Lastly, I think we all saw the headlines regarding this Delta flight in Toronto that flipped upside down. Some people were injured. All 80 aboard survived. But I realize now when you’re flying, when the flight attendants are going through and asking you to make sure that your seatbelt is secure and that you have everything stowed, there really is a reason why. And so I’m very grateful that all of those people survived. But you get on an airplane. You think that you take it for granted. You’re going to arrive at your destination. Of course, we’ve seen these the flights. in Washington, D.C., from Wichita, Kansas, that collided with a military helicopter and everyone perished. And so life is precious. And we’re called every day to get up and do the very best that we can in serving our good Lord. And so we need to make sure that we do that every day. Last thing Colonel Rutledge mentioned as this yesterday was President’s Day honoring George Washington and Abraham Lincoln. Washington survived five times, five different times being shot at. And Colonel Rutledge said he felt that there was a direct correlation between Washington and Donald Trump when Donald Trump survived the assassination attempt back in the summer. And the divine provider really did have his hand on Donald Trump as well. So he seems like he is a man on a mission to get government back in the proper roles that it belongs in. 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And welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at Kim Monson dot com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We’re an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something’s a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. It is Tuesday and very pleased to have on the line with me former State Senator Kevin Lundberg. He’s also the author of the Lundberg Report, which you can find at Kevin Lundberg. That’s L-U-N-D-B-E-R-G dot com. Kevin Lundberg, welcome to the show.
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Well, thanks, Kim. It’s great being with you each and every week. We can get this done.
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This is and we’re doing this throughout the legislative session. And Kevin, it is pretty well out of control down there at the statehouse. As of this morning from Bill Track 50 shows that there’s been 458 bills that have been introduced. And it is a bill mill down there. And it’s there’s a lot of the special interests that are pushing this legislation. They’re getting a legislator to carry that bill with specific agendas. We also have some some great Republicans that are working to try to roll back some of these bills that are some of this legislation there as well. But it’s crazy bill down there.
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Yeah, it is. It is. Now, that number that Bill tracked, they’re probably including resolutions in that number because my account is more like 425 or so of actual bills that are proposed right now. And that’s kind of on track with how many will be there this time of the process because every legislator gets five bills that they can introduce. And so with some others, it adds up pretty quick. Forgive me, your initial question.
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Oh, well, I think I wanted to get over here to actually we were talking about the Lumber report. And first thing I wanted to mention is you included a link to an ex post regarding a little film track of Elon Musk as Sherlock Holmes. And I found that super creative and super interesting.
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Yeah, yeah, that was just kind of a fun thing I dropped in. Occasionally, I mean, I try to scour all the, you know, contacts and news sources I have, and sometimes you run across something that’s refreshing, and it’s just a little short video clip where with creative AI video, they drop Musk’s face and actually – Watson is Tucker Carlson. And they’re just kind of making this interesting parallel to the sleuth work that Musk is doing right now, digging through the vast, vast systems in the federal government, trying to find where the real fraud and waste and areas of efficiency exist. And it’s a tough job, but he seems to be up to the task, too. So I thought that little clip kind of said it in a lighthearted way.
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And so people can access that by going to your website, kevinlundberg.com, click on the Lundberg Report. And, yes, it’s somewhat – it’s very refreshing. So be sure and check that out. So, Kevin, earlier this – Oh, go ahead.
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Go ahead. Well, I might mention this one thing is that it is an ex-account that you have to have as well when you click on that. But most people do, and I think – there’s another place that Musk has done a real good job of cleaning things up. So you’re safe back on X rather than, you know, the old Twitter systems they had. Anyway, move on.
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So, Kevin, we’ve seen reports both nationally and locally of protests against Trump, Musk, Doge, which I was talking with some friends last night. I said these people that are protesting this I think are starting to look kind of dumb because I texted this over to you early this morning from the Epoch Times. that database, the Social Security database, apparently has lists over 12 million people older than the age of 120 as eligible for Social Security. There’s even one person that’s older than 240. How on earth has this been going on? Why hasn’t Social Security been checking this out? This is unconscionable.
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Well, it does show you some of the, shall we say, irregularities in government systems. Now, I did read a follow-up on that. If you read very carefully what Musk said about that, because he’s quoted in there, he didn’t say we’ve found fraud. He said we’ve found these weird age… listings of people on Social Security. I did read a follow-up comment from somebody who said, well, yeah, but within the Social Security system, that doesn’t mean they’re getting the dollars. As a matter of fact, this person said that they automatically cut off payments for anything that’s listed more than 115 years. And the guy went on to say that Social Security, their data system is on an old literally 60-year-old, what do we say, machine language that really didn’t accommodate the listing of the ages of individual people. And instead, there’s sort of this default that drops in. But yeah, it shows you how easy it is for things to get just completely convoluted. And I’m certain, absolutely certain, especially after I’ve looked at how voter registration records are kept, that the Social Security system has some real weak links. And I’m sure there are a lot of folks that are picking up a check that maybe they shouldn’t be. You know, they’ve got to dig deep and they’re finding some interesting things in there. And this is kind of a stark example of how you can’t just trust the government to have everything in order and in good shape.
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Well, another thing in the Epoch Times article, it says that the Social Security data reflects the number of eligible Social Security recipients in the system at more than 398 million. Yet the Census Bureau estimates the national population to be roughly 341 million. That seems like that’s a problem.
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Well, I’d say that seems like another pretty significant dilemma that they’ve got there, especially since for most Social Security recipients, you have to be in your 60s or older. And so, yeah, yeah. I mean, it points out just how complicated things have become. You know, when I was in the legislature, and particularly on the Joint Budget Committee for the last two years of my time there, you get statistics thrown at you all the time, and also the immense use of databases. And… The state of Colorado spends tens of millions of dollars just keeping their databases up and running every year. And then oftentimes, you know, they’ll spend three or four years putting something like that together. And like I remember when I got into the legislature, they were working on a system. I think they called it CBMS, if I recall. And it was for all the people receiving Medicaid payments. And it took them several years. I think it was like $180 million to develop the system. And by the time it was rolled out, it was essentially two things. One, it didn’t work. And number two, it was really behind the times because they started working on it so long ago. It’s… Yeah, you can’t surprise me with any weird number that comes out of the government’s lists of who’s where and who’s what. But you do have to dig deeper and say, okay, does that mean that Social Security is actually cutting checks for these people, or is this buried in their vast data system that they’ll never get rid of any tidbit of information that they collect, whether accurately or not?
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So, Kevin, I want to drill down a little bit more on that when we come back from break to talk about that. And then also you had mentioned our voter rolls here in Colorado and and the fact that they’re bloated, that that they’re not taking care of them. What can that mean exactly? So I’m talking with Kevin Lundberg. He is the author of the Lundberg Report, a former state senator as well, and really informed about that. things that are happening here in our state it’s so important that we drill down on all of these things and these different issues and we get to because of sponsors like karen levine for everything residential real estate
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And welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Check out our website. That is Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter and email me at Kim at Kim Monson dot com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We’re an independent voice. We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something’s a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. The text line is 720-605-0647. And be sure and check out the USMC Memorial Foundation, their website. And make sure that you have them in your giving this year in 2025. It’d be great to do something on a regular basis because honoring those that have given their lives or been willing to give their lives for our freedom is so important. And we can do something right here in Colorado to honor them. So that website, again, is USMC Memorial Foundation. usmcmemorialfoundation.org. Kevin Lundberg is on the line. You can find him at kevinlundberg.com. And be sure and check out his Lundberg Report. It goes up every Saturday. And he also has a call every Monday morning with a number of people throughout Colorado. And so you can check all that out. It’s all in the Lundberg Report. But Kevin, we’re talking about Elon Musk, that apparently there’s this number, a significant number of people, what we say 12 million people over the age of 120 that are listed as eligible for Social Security. And then apparently a commentator said, well, they may be in there as eligible, but that doesn’t mean that they’re getting the money. Right. And then we see over here in Colorado, our voter rolls are so bloated and we’ve got mail-in ballots flying out all over the state at great expense. And there are those that say, well, not all those people vote. We have signature verification, although I will interject that there’s no signature audits at all. But I find it interesting that instead of saying, hey, this is a problem, let’s clean it up, people make excuses. What’s your thoughts on that?
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You’re absolutely correct. And Judicial Watch, which is a big national watchdog group on a lot of different issues, actually sued the Colorado Secretary of State. I think they filed the suit a few years ago, and it finally got settled, and it was over the issue of the accuracy of our voter registration records. And they’ve been doing this all over the country. They sued the city of Los Angeles or the county of Los Angeles, I should say, for their voter records. And they, what was it? It was, I believe that they had identified like a million or a half a million registrations that weren’t valid. And they said, you need to take these away, you know, And in states where they mail out ballots, and I think they do that in California, they certainly do it here in Colorado, if you’re on the list, a ballot goes out. And if there isn’t a valid voter on the other end, well, what happened to that ballot? Yeah, and they talk about signature verification. Well, that’s a bit of a joke. A friend of mine who actually lives in Boulder County said, He said he intentionally signs his ballot with his left hand and he’s right-handed just to test their system. And he said, well, they go through, you know, even though his signature doesn’t look anything like his signature. That’s a very arbitrary mechanism there. And it’s a false assurance that’s given to people. There’s only one real answer to that part of the voting process, which is it’s so dangerous when you have you know, literally hundreds of thousands of, of invalid voter registration records. And here’s why I say that back in 2013, when they established the all mail ballot system in Colorado, that was house bill 13 dash 1303. Um, one of the things they did is they intentionally removed 300,000 names from the inactive list, uh, of voter registration. That means somebody who hasn’t voted for at least two election cycles, and they’re most probably not there. They remove them from that list and put them in the active voter registration list, intentionally throwing 300,000 additional registrations in the we’re going to mail out a ballot list. And yeah, I mean, I could go on and on and on for hours on how sloppy. Our system is in Colorado. And this automatic voter registration system means that all the departments in the state of Colorado are instructed to send names and addresses and ages for anybody they collect, and they are to be automatically put on the voter registration list. I don’t know if… I’ve read that not everybody does that. But if the Secretary of State gets that name, address, and age. And the age is to verify they’re over 18. I don’t know if they get anybody over 120 or not. But over the age of 18, they are to be automatically registered. And then the next thing that happens is the Secretary of State sends out a card, or maybe the county, Clorica, I’m not sure which, sends out a card to that address saying, you’ve been registered to vote. If you can think of a reason why it shouldn’t be, tell us. But if they don’t get any response, the next thing they do is they mail a ballot out at the next election. This is irresponsible. And there’s very little check as to whether this person is a U.S. citizen and a citizen of the state of Colorado or not. If it’s the Department of Revenue, and they handle driver’s licenses, they are to verify that this is not an alien-listed person, that they are a citizen to their knowledge. But all other departments are not given that instruction, and so it’s very obvious this is an ugly, ugly system.
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It is an ugly system. And a couple of points is last year there was a I can’t remember the bill number, but a Senate bill, I think it was, which was modifications to our elections. And the I actually think it might have had bipartisan support on it as well. It’s like, oh, come on, guys, got to keep your names off those bills. But the prime sponsor was Finberg out of Senator Finberg out of Boulder. And I did testify against it. But he said, we’re just going to be tweaking elections just a little bit. But it was 42 pages long. And I’m thinking, this is a little bit of a problem. So they’ve been building on that House Bill 13-1303 really almost every year. But in that bill last year, it changed the preregistration date to preregister voters from the age of 16 to the age of 15. And so how is it that we’ve got this bill here this year? I can’t remember the number, but it’s a bill that says that you have to be 21 years of age to purchase ammunition. But yet now it’s saying that you can be 15 years old and pre-register to vote. It’s pretty inconsistent here in Colorado.
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Oh, absolutely. And on top of that, the Colorado Constitution was passed. adjusted to state that you must be 18 to be registered to vote or to vote, I should say. But then to back that up and say, but years before that, you can register to vote is upside down. And also there’s another law that says if you’re going to be 18 by the general election date and you’re pre-registered to vote, you can vote in the primary when you’re 17. I have yet to figure out how in the world they’ve coordinated those things because it just doesn’t make sense. But it’s quite obvious why they do this. And I’ve been watching them do this for my entire time when I was down there. In 2013, that was kind of the capstone that they put in place. And then, yes, they’ve been adding to it every year and carving away, creating more little little spots where they can dig in and find a few more voters that aren’t really voters or ballots that aren’t really headed towards any voter. And then what happens to them is a good question. It’s so easy to register. You know, the identification you’re required is actually nothing because it goes through a long list of when you register to vote, you have to provide your driver’s license number. But if you don’t have it, you can provide a utility bill with your address on it. But if you don’t have that, you can just put down your social security number. But if you don’t have that, you can just check a little box or sign something that says, I am a U.S. citizen and this is where I live. It’s just designed to allow… the bad actor an easy path to do what they do during elections. And I guarantee you that every election has bad actors in there that want to twist the actual outcome. And what we need is a system that’s as airtight as possible. Hey, let me give you a little bit of good news, though. I haven’t seen it yet, but I fully expect something to happen at the federal level that will say for federal elections, these are the rules you have to play by. Because Congress can dictate particulars for elections if there’s a federal office being determined in that election, like a member of Congress, U.S. Senate, president. All those general elections, which is every general election, may have to provide a more robust system for voters. If that’s the case, then we’re going to have to do some reconfiguring because Colorado is one of the worst states for allowing anything to happen during our elections.
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So, Kevin, that is interesting that you would say that. My ear to the ground has also said that there may be something regarding federal elections. So it’s going to be super interesting then to watch what happens regarding the state elections, county, municipal, which I really think that that’s where the real battle is. I had Peter Berneger on earlier. A few weeks ago, who is with Wisconsin Center for Election Justice, which we did get that lawsuit filed right in November 1st, I think it was challenging our mail in ballots that mail in ballots have been going to people that have moved. And so that is in the legal wrangling right now. So it’s basically that our voter rolls are not cleaned up. The other lawsuit that we raised the money for, and when I say we, all of you out there, was the lawsuit with United Sovereign Americans, which we filed that on September 10th of last year. And it was based on this, that plaintiffs revealed that there were 1.4 million facially ineligible or uncertain registrations. in Colorado in 2022, resulting in a little over 100,000 improperly counted votes and 34,000, almost 35,000 more votes counted than votes reported. And that’s right here in Colorado. So we’ve got those lawsuits out there. What I’m learning about lawsuits is that it takes a while there’s legal wrangling back and forth. So that is going on with both of those lawsuits that Colorado and step forward to fund. And so, um, uh, we’re going to be working on, uh, moving our elections 2024 project into reclaiming Colorado 2025. So stay tuned. I’m working on trying to figure out what to do on that. Exactly. Kevin.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, and I am so glad that you’re in the battle on that, uh, For my part, I’m the chairman of the lawsuit committee for the Colorado GOP challenging the open primary system we have here in Colorado. And there, too, we filed back in, what was it, July of 2023. And it’s still kind of grinding through the process. We’re going through depositions at this point in preparation for an actual trial later this year. and it’s sort of an open and closed case in the sense that the Supreme Court already ruled that you can’t force a political party to accept the primary votes from non-party members, but Colorado’s got a system that claims they can get around it, and we’re trying to press on that. It takes a lot of effort, and And you do have to drill down to the specifics. You know, you mentioned very particular. I remember, you know, the big mail-in ballots started in 2013. In 2014, the first election where this applied, my sister received four ballots in the mail. Four. She had moved a couple of months before, and so she got a ballot from her old address and her new address, and then she got two ballots that showed up in somebody’s name at her new address that hadn’t lived there for 10 years. You know, talk about a mess. And those were some of those inactive voters that hadn’t been removed from the rolls, but they’d been declared inactive. And the legislature just said, well, let’s send them a ballot anyway.
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There’s real problems with that. And we’re going to continue the discussion with Kevin Lundberg, but did want to mention the Center for American Values located in Pueblo, Colorado, nonprofit that I dearly love. And they do a variety of things. They honor our Medal of Honor recipients, keeping those stories alive with their portraits of valor. great educational programs, and they’re focused on these values of honor, integrity, and patriotism. It needs to be on your bucket list to get down to the center. They’re going to have a couple of online, excuse me, on value presentations coming up in March and April, which are going to be just awesome. So stay tuned for that. But more information on all that, you can go to AmericanValueCenter.org. That’s AmericanValueCenter.org. And I really appreciate all of our sponsors. And one of those is Lauren Levy for Everything Mortgages.
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And welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMonson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We’re an independent voice. We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something’s a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. Talking with Kevin Lundberg, the author of the Lundberg Report. You can find that at KevinLundberg.com. And he’s a former state senator, served down at the legislature for many years. So he really understands what’s happening down there. Kevin, we normally talk about legislation, however. I think this is such an important discussion regarding the bloated Social Security roles that Elon Musk and Doge just uncovered. It’s like, how were they able to uncover that in just a little under, what, two weeks, and that the Social Security Administration couldn’t uncover that at all? I find that an important question.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, well… Elon Musk is bringing a new work ethic to the federal government, and the private sector side, he gets things done, and he demands that people that work for him get things done as well. And, you know, that’s the exact opposite of your typical impression of a federal employee. And there are many, many federal employees who are doing a tremendous job and working as hard as they possibly can. But there’s sort of this attitude of, yeah, we’ll take care of it later because it’s such a big system and it’s so overwhelming. But Musk’s coming in here with a new a new value, which is we’re here to get it done now. Production, not process. We want the results. And so, you know, he’s showing it’s possible. You can do this, but you’ve got to work at it.
SPEAKER 17 :
Well, and yeah, there’s a new sheriff in town on all of this. So next thing, this came in from one of our listeners. First of all, good point. These lawsuits that you have that we’ve raised the money for with United Sovereign Americans and Wisconsin Center for Election Justice, And thank you to everybody that has contributed is that the government has unlimited resources for their attorneys because they’re using our tax dollars. So it says they use our tax dollars for the lawsuits. So maybe we can sue the secretary of state that she would do her job. Also said that get out the vote can be used to. For fraudulent voters in Colorado. I think that that’s another thing that happens. They do the get out the vote. They get people registered that generates that that ballot. And just think about kids that get out the vote on a university or college campus. They move away. What happens to those ballots? That’s a question. But then she said this. She said Governor Hickenlooper, well, Senator Hickenlooper just came out and said that illegals can’t be arrested at the polls. She said, wait a minute. I thought illegals are not voting. That’s a good question. I’m trying to source that and see where Hickenlooper said that. But pretty, pretty good to catch that, I think, from our listener.
SPEAKER 05 :
Oh, yeah, yeah. And it shows how upside down the logic or at least the rhetoric that they use is because there’s a whole lot being hidden here. And let me go back to you. You talked about you can influence an election in a very legal fashion by getting out and aggressively encouraging people to vote. Right. And I believe the Democrats, they perfected that grassroots effort in a great way. But then I’ve just seen too many places where there’s, to put it generously, fudging the legal lines on things. And it goes on and on. Here’s a fascinating thing. There’s a bill right now in the legislature – that deals with voting. What’s the name of it? Oh, I’ll have to look. I’ve got too many bills on my list anymore. But it’s talking about having a safe environment for voting. And what it really is, is a gun control that says if you’re involved in encouraging anybody to vote, you cannot have a firearm on you. And you can’t exercise your constitutional rights to carry a firearm. You know, they’re always putting in additional rules that make it more and more difficult for the law-abiding citizen to go out and participate in the process. And they’re creating these avenues where, as I said before, the bad actors can step up to the plate and and continue to put their thumb on the scale when it comes to the elections.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, and we have to ask why. They may say, oh, there’s no bad actors doing any bad things, but then why would we even have these bloated roles where there would be the opportunity? We want to button that up so that doesn’t happen. Kevin, I know we normally talk about legislation, and there’s a whole bunch out there. We did get our cut email out to legislators and our members yesterday. It goes to the governor as well. We’d recommend that people join us at the Colorado Union of Taxpayers, and it’s just $25 a year, and you will be very informed when you get that particular email. email. So there’s a lot of bills out there, but I wanted to ask you regarding your ear to the ground on this Senate Bill 003, which is the magazine bill making it very difficult for people, law-abiding citizens, to keep and bear firearms. And I guess they have been making amendments to that. What do you hear about Senate Bill 003?
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, right now it’s passed the Senate second hearing. which is the time that they really amended, and there were heavy, heavy amendments made. But everything I’ve heard, and I’ve reviewed some of it, but it’s a pretty complicated bill. Usually when you have a big, bad gun bill like that, when the amendments come in, it’s to satisfy some of the concerns of some pressures so that maybe they can get this across the finish line. Well, I understand this time that they made it worse. And I mean, this is a ban on the ability to buy or manufacture or sell most semi-automatic weapons. And they even added, I saw this one thing, one of the amendments added this long list of specific guns that are very common firearms used in hunting and and self-defense, and they’re saying, but you can’t get any of these here in Colorado. It’s making it worse. They’re showing their hand. I think they’ve touched a third rail in politics, too, because people need to know that the people passing this bill, and it’s the Democrat Party and I’m going to lay the president of the Senate’s name, who I have a high respect for him in a lot of ways. But the fact that he called this Senate Bill 3 means it’s a high priority for him. And that’s a bad mark in my mind for what he’s trying to do to the people of Colorado and illegally, too. You go back and look at not only the Second Amendment of the U.S. Constitution, but in the Bill of Rights for the Colorado Constitution, it basically says the right to own and bear rights.
SPEAKER 17 :
arms shall not be questioned and they’re doing more than questioning it they’re banning it in many respects and so two things we’re just about out of time the president of the colorado senate is who uh let’s see senator coleman okay and then last thing and i’ll just leave this hanging out there would uh would you consider a run for u.s senate against hickenlooper
SPEAKER 05 :
Boy, that comes out of left field there.
SPEAKER 16 :
So just ruminate on that, Kevin. You can let us know what you come up with next week.
SPEAKER 05 :
I’ve learned to never say never, but on the other hand, I haven’t considered that seriously. Okay. Kevin, thanks so much.
SPEAKER 17 :
We’ll talk to you next Tuesday. It’s always so informative, so thank you.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay. Well, thank you. Looking forward to seeing you next week, too, here on the air.
SPEAKER 17 :
Okay, and George Washington said this, truth will ultimately prevail where there are pains taken to bring it to light. So, my friends, stay tuned. We’ll be back for hour number two.
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Good morning, Kim. Thank you for having me.
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Well, I wanted to get your take on President’s Day and our great presidents, Abraham Lincoln and George Washington. I think Ronald Reagan gets into that mix. And, of course, what’s happening right now, I think we’ve got a great president as well. But what’s your thoughts on Washington and Lincoln?
SPEAKER 09 :
Oh, two incredible Americans that stepped up when we needed the most. I mean, Washington, the father of the country. I mean, leading the troops against the greatest fighting force at that time, the British Army, and just coming through, leading by example. When the troops were down, when they were cold, when they were underfed, when they were tired, he was able to rally folks and get them to get behind him, and he led. He led with courage and boldness and wisdom. something that every great leader should have, and he had it in spades.
SPEAKER 17 :
Well, and he called it, John, he called this American idea, this Revolutionary War, the glorious cause, which I get just inspiration from that, John.
SPEAKER 09 :
It does. He did. Great leader. I mean, we would very likely not be what we are today had he not been the leader at the time when we needed him.
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And then that segues to Lincoln.
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Yeah. I mean, talk about leading during a chaotic, divisive period in time. I mean, nothing compares to what Lincoln faced, uh, when he took office and, and, uh, again, the cause, a great cause, um, that was dividing, well, the slavery that was dividing the country. And, and he took up that mantle and, um, led with, again, courage and wisdom. What’s fascinating to me, you look back in history of our country, and we’ve had people like Washington, we’ve had people like Lincoln, and then Reagan, great men, great leaders, great Americans that came to the forefront, that did what needed to be done when it needed to be done at a time when the country was struggling and and needed that great leadership, and we’ve been so fortunate. We can say that right now again. But Lincoln, he’s one of my favorites, read a book, Team of Rivals, that talked about his leadership and how he was able to take his rivals and have them help him lead the country at that time. Fascinating book.
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Well, and it does bring up the discussion with Donald Trump. The fact that he has two Democrats in his cabinet, Tulsi Gabbard and RFK Jr., is really fascinating. I guess they’ve come to, well, I think both RFK Jr. and Tulsi Gabbard love America, but they could have been considered rivals. So it’s so fascinating watching what’s happening now, John. And when I say that we were made for this moment in history, we are in a historical time right now. And I think God has put us here for this.
SPEAKER 09 :
Completely agree with you, Kim. You look at what has transpired the previous four years and the deterioration and and just every aspect of the American dream. And now we’ve got a leader who is committed. He is not going to stop. He’s not going to back off. He is bold, doing what needs to be done, and exposing the corruption, the fraud, the waste, getting rid of the deep state. It’s a Herculean task, and I can’t think of too many other men. I can’t think of any right now. that would be up for that task.
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I know. And so we’re in historic times. Let’s move over to Boson and John, well, Boson Law. And I’d mentioned in the first hour that Elon Musk, it was reported in the Epoch Times that there’s over 12 million people that are over the age of 120, I think it is, that are considered eligible for Social Security. That doesn’t really seem possible. But you can help people that are not 120 that really are eligible for some Social Security disability. And when we… See what’s happening regarding all that Elon Musk is uncovering. People should not be reticent if they have become disabled to reach out to Bosun Law for Social Security Disability.
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No, and that’s a great tie in there. And I had not heard that whole story. I heard just a little tiny blip about it, you know, fraud that was being found in the Social Security Administration with regard to people getting benefits. So that’s the tie. How many people? Over 120 getting benefits?
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, let me give this to you. This was from the Epoch Times. It says database lists 12 million people older than 120 as eligible for Social Security. Oh, my goodness.
SPEAKER 09 :
So that money is going out and we don’t know where.
SPEAKER 17 :
Right. Okay.
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And, again, this is people that legitimately are eligible for this, and they won’t know unless they reach out to you at 303-999-9999. And it’s important that they do so because it does take a little bit of time to get through that process. Right, John?
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In Colorado, an initial decision after an application for disability benefits is filed. Initial decision averages over 280 days, some much longer than that. So time is of the essence. It’s get something started quickly with that phone call.
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And again, that’s 303-999-9999. John Bozen, thank you so much. We’ll talk next week.
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Thank you, Kim.
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And welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at Kim Monson dot com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We’re an independent voice. We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something’s a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And I do thank the Harris family for their goal sponsorship of the show because we are an independent voice on an independent station searching for truth and clarity on these issues. Very pleased to have on the line with me, Dr. Sina McCullough. She is the health and nutrition expert with the Epic Times. Dr. McCullough, welcome to the show. Well, thank you for having me. Well, and I’m excited to talk with you about the bird flu. Apparently, I just wanted to get your take on this because this has been in the headlines. They’ve been killing a number of flocks because of bird flu. What’s your thoughts on it?
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Yes, so… Let me go ahead and start with some statistics to bring everybody up to speed, if that’s okay. This recent outbreak started in 2022, and they’ve estimated that they killed about 157 million birds already. In Iowa, Ohio, and Indiana, those are our nation’s top three egg-producing states, they have lost more than 55 million birds. And I want to point out from the top, that doesn’t mean that all these millions of birds have tested positive for the bird flu. That could mean in an entire flock, one bird tested positive and then they culled or killed the entire flock. Okay, so I think that’s one thing. There’s a little bit of, in my opinion, fear-mongering that’s going around, that this is some rampant thing, that all these millions of birds have been infected, and that’s actually not true. Again, they’ll kill the whole flock if they have one positive test. Now, according to the CDC stats, the numbers are rising. In November, they said that there were 7 million birds affected. By December of 2024, there were 18 million. By January, there were 23 million. Just in the last 30 days alone, they’re saying there’s around 20 million. And about 70 humans have tested positive. One person has died. That person did have underlying health conditions. And most of the people who have been infected or tested positive They were around sick poultry or sick cattle, and these were mostly mild cases. And the CDC is saying that now it’s also affected a duck farm in California, and it’s spread to dairy cows, roughly 950 herds across 16 states, and that there’s a new variant that’s also affected cows and a veterinarian. So we’re getting a lot of information, in my opinion, that has drummed up a lot of fear. You couple that with the high prices in AIDS, that it’s just skyrocketing. And people are starting to get really concerned. And so now what’s happening, the latest I’ve heard, is that now the administration is coming out and saying, well, maybe we stop killing all the birds. Maybe we start isolating them and using a medication approach. And this is a little concerning to me personally. I mean, I don’t want all these birds to be killed either. That’s not the solution. But what they’ve just done is just this month, the USDA issued a conditional license to Zoetis, a pharmaceutical company, so they can produce the avian flu vaccine for chickens. So that one’s happening with the avian flu vaccine for chickens simultaneously. We have Healthy Human Services giving $590 million to Moderna for another mRNA vaccine for humans for bird flu, and another $11 million to the NIH for more research in this area. So for me, this is, like personally, this is very concerning. There’s a lot of similarities that we see. saw that happened in COVID. For instance, they’re using the PCR testing method once again, and I’m seeing different reports of different cycle thresholds that they’re using. And some experts are coming out and saying that once again, they’re using too high of cycle thresholds. So you’re going to have positives when there weren’t really positive test positive cases. You have isolation happening. So not only with these flocks that are testing positive, how they’re obviously isolating and killing those birds, but the New York governor recently ordered that all live bird markets in New York City and some surrounding areas to shut down for a week to try to stem the spread. And now you have the emergency use authorization that was declared by Healthy Human Services. That was declared back in July of 2024. which has paved the way for the PCR testing and emergency treatments to be used like the vaccine exploration. And I was doing a lot of digging on this issue this weekend. And it does seem like that there is some credence to people who are coming out and saying that there’s a potential lab leak for this bird flu as well. So in my own personal opinion, I see a lot of similarities here. And I think that just as a nation and worldwide, we’re going about this in the wrong direction.
SPEAKER 17 :
Well, and it seems like it’s a real assault upon our food source. Out here in Colorado, there’s reports that some grocers are rationing eggs. And we’ve got on top of the bird flu, we’ve got laws as some of the different states have regulating that you have to have cage-free hens, which I think is making eggs more expensive as well. But Dr. McCullough, so culling all of these birds, and yet you’re reporting that some of these statistics that there’s testing more and more positive for birds, it seems like it hasn’t been very successful of killing all these birds. All that it’s done is maybe really made eggs more expensive and making chicken meat less available. What do you think on that?
SPEAKER 15 :
I think you are spot on in that analysis. Just between January of last year and January of this year, the price of eggs has risen about 53%. And that’s according to the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics. And in my area, grocery stores are rationing the eggs. And a dozen eggs here is about $12. I mean, who can afford that, you know? And the prices are expected to increase by about 20% in 2025, and that’s according to the USDA. The message that they’ve been using has not been working. What they’re saying is that – what the government and other reporters are saying is that the reason why cooling all these flocks is not working this time as opposed to in the past is because this virus is mutating more rapidly than previous viruses. But I was – I would actually argue that it’s because the strategy is incorrect what they’re doing is as I mentioned if you go in and you kill the whole flock even if only one chicken is infected you’re missing the opportunity because you’re exterminating all these chickens without regard to immunity, without researching why some birds are flourishing while others are dying. And this is the most fundamental principle in animal husbandry and breeding is that the farmers would select for those animals that have the healthy immune system. So part of the answer, in my opinion, is, is that you need to be saving those birds that are surviving from the infection, and you need to be breeding those birds. And those future generations will then have that natural immunity that is passed on from the birds that survive. But instead, they’re killing the survivors. I mean, that to me, you know, as a researcher and a scientist, that makes no sense to me at all, because those surviving birds have developed that natural immunity. We should be harnessing that natural muting, rather than instead of like working out of fear and just trying to kill everything that has potentially been exposed to it. And we know it’s not a good strategy because reports now have been coming out that they’re saying that this is more fear-mongering, that the virus has been spreading, and that now the latest CDC report shows that it’s been present in more veterinarians than we previously thought. Like the CDC’s recent report said that three veterinarians tested positive for the H5N1 antibodies, and this was out of 150 different veterinarians that were tested across 46 states. And one of those veterinarians was in a state where there wasn’t even the H5N1 infection reported in dairy cows, and this veterinarian worked in dairy cows. So they’re saying that all this is really rampant and all these veterinarians are unknowingly being exposed to it. Well, they’re not showing any symptoms. None of them had any symptoms, but they produced antibodies. So that, to me, indicates that’s a good sign that the body’s doing what it’s supposed to do. And even if they were exposed to it, the body handled it, right? The antibodies, we have in science said for generations now that antibodies are determined that you have natural immunity. And now all of a sudden we’re using it as this fear-mongering that, oh my goodness, it’s spreading, it’s like ubiquitous out there, so let’s all be afraid. And one of the retired USDA scientists commented on this finding, and he said that this means that humans are susceptible to subclinical infections and possibly reassortment risks. So this is one thing that I think we’re also misinterpreting this reassortment risk. So what that means is that they’re saying that these viruses can mutate, but also if you get infected with the bird flu at the same time that you’re getting infected by our seasonal flu, that they have different genetic material that makes them up and that they can recombine into a different order and could potentially recombine into a new virus that could pass from person to person. Right, so that’s really the fear of what they’re talking about. But the problem is then if you’re killing all the survivors, you’re increasing the likelihood that that scenario is going to happen.
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And welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMonson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We’re an independent voice. We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something’s a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And I do thank the Harris family for their goal sponsorship of the show. It is because of these great sponsors that we’re on the air. And you can text me, 720-605-0647. And a nonprofit that I dearly love and support is the USMC Memorial Foundation. And just within the last week, two gentlemen that I have gotten to know through Cooper’s Troopers, which is a group of combat veterans that meets on a regular basis up in northern Colorado, or excuse me, the northern metro area. He was almost 100 years old, Iwo Jima veteran Jack Thurman, and then also just found out that Vietnam veteran C.R. Cusack just passed on as well, both amazing men. And so a great way to honor them is to contribute to the USMC Memorial Foundation. You can do that by going to usmcmemorialfoundation.org. So such a fascinating conversation with Dr. Sina McCullough, and she is the health and nutrition expert with the Epoch Times. We’re talking about the bird flu. And first, it makes so much sense that you would only call out the sick birds, not the complete bird. because those with natural immunity, you would want to continue that on. And so this is crazy to me that we would be killing all of these chickens, and it’s really affecting our food prices, our food source, and it just really doesn’t make any sense to me, Dr. McCullough.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, it really doesn’t make much sense to me either. This is a longstanding practice, actually, that we’ve had in the U.S. But as we see, the bird flu continues, right? Like this is not the first time that we have had bird flu. This one particular strain, this H5N1, has been around since 1996. So the strategies so far have not worked. So one of the strategies has been culling the birds. That hasn’t worked. Another strategy has been mass vaccinations. which has not occurred here yet in the United States, but it has occurred in other countries. For instance, like China has done this. And that’s actually, in my opinion, leading to a perpetuation of the bird flu. So one reason is because they are, this is probably going to sound very familiar. They are generally leaky vaccines. So one thing that we’re having happen is that these vaccinated birds, they’re still getting infected. They’re still shedding the virus, you know, albeit probably at lower levels, but without showing symptoms. And so it’s harder to not only detect when they do have this virus, but they’re more likely to spread it. These leaky vaccines have been shown to cause like more rampant viral mutations. In fact, There was just a study that came out recently in Science Advances, and it concluded that vaccinating against this highly pathogenic H5 subtype of the avian influenza virus, which is what we’re having right now, they concluded that vaccinating against it may actually be driving the viral evolution of it. And so when that happens, it becomes even more of a moving target. They will vaccinate, and then it’s It’s a leaky vaccine, so the virus will mutate, and then they’re trying to keep up with it to figure out, okay, what’s the next strain that it’s mutating into, and then you have to vaccinate again. So it starts this kind of snowball effect. We saw this happen in actually Merrick disease in chickens. where they decided to combat it with leaky vaccines. And that ended up with a more virulent strain that emerged and persists today. And now it’s more deadly to chickens if they do actually get that disease. In terms of bird flu specifically, China and Egypt have already been mass vaccinating for quite some time now. And they have now developed vaccine-resistant strains to the bird flu. So I don’t think that’s a good solution either. Again, we see these eerie parallels to COVID. And so, again, I think that we need to work with nature here and not against nature.
SPEAKER 17 :
I could not agree more. Dr. Sina McCullough with the epic times. So next thing you mentioned earlier in the interview that, um, a lot of money has been, um, dedicated to some of the vaccine makers to do an MRNA vaccine in chickens. I don’t really want that in my food supply.
SPEAKER 15 :
I don’t want that either. And we already know that, um, You know, COVID was really eye-opening, even to us who, like myself, study the food supply and have studied it for a long time. I’ve written two books about it, one alongside Joel Salatin, co-owner of Polyface Farms. He and I have a podcast and we banter about food politics and health all the time. And it wasn’t until COVID happened and we learned about these mRNA vaccines that Joel and I uncovered that some livestock were already receiving mRNA vaccines. So that was new to us, even though we study this subject all the time. So so it’s already a concern. And now the the the further concern is that it’s going to become more rampant and now it’s going to become in the chickens. And this also poses a concern about trade, how we’re trading chickens. So that could also disrupt the food supply and cause price changes in our food. But I certainly don’t want to eat anything that has been injected with mRNA. I actually source all of my meats And, you know, my chicken, the eggs, I source them all locally and from Polyface Farm, from places that don’t vaccinate whatsoever. That instead, they focus on good animal husbandry, like, you know, rotating the birds across the field. Like, you know, Joel is famous for that. You know, truly pasture chickens, how you move them across the pasture instead of keeping them in one close area. You know, as of right now, we’re not really seeing that the organic prices are, the birds are being affected as much. The prices certainly have been affected, but I wouldn’t be surprised if more organic birds do eventually become affected by this? Because as you are probably well aware, a lot of times organic birds are actually raised in the confined animal feeding operations. They’re just not in little cages in those buildings, but they’re still in the buildings on dirt. And, you know, chickens like to scratch. And so they scratch the dirt and they are routinely inhaling the bird feces that’s on the ground, which can actually cause, you know, leaky gut and potentially leaky brain and and can actually affect the egg production as well if those are egg layers. So, yeah, this is a much bigger problem than I think a lot of people are realizing, and just killing the birds that are in these affected flocks and mass vaccinating is really just kicking the cow down the road while it’s sabotaging our food supply.
SPEAKER 17 :
And it’s putting more money in the pockets of pharmaceuticals.
SPEAKER 15 :
Exactly. More of our tax dollars going to the pharmaceutical industry.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yes. So hopefully we’ll get this turned around. It does seem like they’re trying to get people ramped up regarding the reactions to COVID. And you mentioned that possibly this was a lab leak. That’s like deja vu all over again, Dr. McCullough.
SPEAKER 15 :
It really is. And, you know, like I said, I did a deep dive into this this weekend. There is no real smoking gun at this point. But if you’d like, I can tell you just a couple quick pieces of evidence that are leading toward, you know, supporting this notion. Yes. Okay. So the first one, as I mentioned, 1996. was the first time this h5n1 virus was detected and that was in a domestic goose in china the next year in 1997 was the first known human infection it’s important to note that before 1997 scientists believed that the bird flu could not infect humans so this was a really big surprise for people i mean it was the same h5n1 virus that first known human infection occurred in hong kong Well, it just so happened that there were a couple of scientists working in Hong Kong who were working with the bird flu, this H5N1 bird flu. There was the H5N1 virus that actually infected humans in Pennsylvania, and that was back in 1983. And the H5N1 that was studied in this lab that came out of the Hong Kong area that was the first known human infection, it contained genetic traces of that Pennsylvania virus, the one that was found in 1983. That one is the closest known relative of the 1997 H5N1 virus. And it just so happens that these researchers were studying it in that lab in Hong Kong, the same place where it came out. Now, after that happened, Fauci and the NIH gave a lot of funding to gain-of-function research, right? So the thought is that these scientists were already doing this gain-of-function research in their lab, and then Fauci and NIH boosted the amount of funding for them to study it And basically, they said that they’re trying to study it to try to develop a vaccine and, you know, prevent this from becoming a pandemic. There were, later on, there were some additional, or I said the first one was a suspected lab leak. You know, we can’t prove that. Later on, there were some reported and documented and confirmed leaks. So, in 2013… This was the first actually reported documented incident. And this was one of those scientists. He was working out at University of Wisconsin. And one of the workers, one of the researchers accidentally pierced their finger with a needle that contained an engineered H5N1 strain. They quarantined that researcher at home for seven days, which wasn’t an approved quarantine facility. The government said later they didn’t know that there wasn’t an approved quarantine facility, that there was supposed to be one, and they treated that worker with Tamiflu. But the university, again, lacked the quarantine facility, and that prompted the NIH to say, okay, you have to have stricter protocols. Then there was another leak in 2014 the next year. And this was when, at the Center for Disease Control in January 2014, there was a benign H9N2 bird flu, like avian influenza sample. It was cross-contaminated with the highly pathogenic H5N1 virus. That contaminated sample was sent to a USDA lab, and the issue was only discovered after some chickens died during testing unexpectedly. So the CDC then investigated, and they revealed the contamination likely occurred to, like, people were rushing and mishandling the samples, and they were tired, so basically poor lab practices. But it was acknowledged that this actually happened. And this came on the heels of two more what I think are just unacceptable incidents that happened. There was a mishandling of anthrax. that ended up getting people sick. And then there’s forgotten smallpox vials that they were left in some storage room, and they supposedly had live smallpox virus in them. And so this is what led to the moratorium on the federal funding for Game of Function research until, as you know, October of 2014. So we do know that there were some leaks already. We also know that in 2019 that there was, in one of those original scientists’ labs who was working on the gain-of-function research, that there was an air-purifying respirator hose that was actually detached in one of their trainees. And this potentially exposed them to the engineered H5N1 strain that we’re talking about today. And they’re saying that strain in particular was possibly capable of airborne transmission between mammals. So, again, while there’s no smoking gun and we cannot say definitively, it looks highly suspicious, to say the least, that the same lab that they were working on, you know, these viruses in, it happened to have an outbreak there. It happened to be very similar to the Pennsylvania outbreak, which is a strain they were working on. And we have subsequently had several possible leaks that have been confirmed by the government.
SPEAKER 17 :
So did any of those people die, Dr. McCullough?
SPEAKER 15 :
So to my knowledge, none of those people died. They treated them like the first one, the one that had the needle prick, they treated them very quickly with the antivirals. And so that one didn’t die. I could not find the report on the exposure to the anthrax, but I don’t think that anybody became ill because they were given antibiotics and vaccines as a precaution there. Okay. Yeah. So nobody in those had, as far as I know, from the data that I was able to uncover, nobody from those had died. Okay.
SPEAKER 17 :
Dr. Sina McCullough, we’re out of time, but just your final thought, this has been fascinating.
SPEAKER 15 :
My final thought is, you know, Joel and I always say, let’s have faith over fear. you know, be informed, be educated, and make those informed decisions that, you know, that are led by God and that resonate with you. And so for us, it is encouraging people to either grow their, like raise their own chickens or, because at this point, I think that it’s been highly proven that our food supply is not, it’s not very flexible, right? It’s not very forgiving. It’s it could be very unstable and fragile. So our solution has become self-sufficient. And if you don’t want to raise your own flock, then try to find a local farmer and support your local farmers.
SPEAKER 17 :
Okay. Dr. Sina McCullough with the Epoch Times. Thank you so much. Absolutely fascinating. And all of these discussions happen because of our sponsors. One of those is Lauren Levy for Everything Mortgages.
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So be sure and check out all the great work that they’re doing at the center. The center is nonpolitical. It’s nonpartisan, focusing on honoring our Medal of Honor recipients. These instilling these values of honor, integrity and patriotism and great educational programs as well. So check that out. At the center at well, the website is American value center dot org coming in on the text line. Thank you, Richard. I was asking about the hockey final for the Invictus games with the US team. He said he thinks that’s Thursday night. And then he also said, Kim, don’t say that the airliner. from Wichita collided with a helicopter. When an airplane is on final, they have almost zero maneuverability. If the pilot had enough time, the only thing he could do is pull up and go around for another attempt. So what happened in Washington, D.C., was that the helicopter slammed into the aircraft that was on a final approach. Best guess right now is that the altimeter in the helicopter was malfunctioning and they were a lot higher off the ground than they should have been according to regulation. Those Blackhawks that are flying on the Potomac River are nothing more than water taxis picking up VIPs from Capitol Hill and flying them around. Their maximum altitude is supposed to be 50 feet. It says, secondarily, the three persons on the helicopter were wearing night vision goggles, so they were unable to distinguish one airplane from another. The tower asked them if they had a certain airplane in sight. They replied, yes, but it was the wrong airplane. Why they would need to be wearing night vision goggles is unimaginable. My best guess is that this was a training flight and the instructor was the third person on board in the back seat. So thank you for that clarification on that, Richard. And then let’s see here. One of my friends, Lucy, said she’s going to bring some eggs from one of our local producers, said that my eggs will be coming this week. Thank you, Lucy. And then Holly said this whole vaccinating of chickens would be a big bonanza for big pharma. Look at the number of poultry and livestock animals that only live a few years compared to humans. So big pharma could make a lot more money vaccinating animals than vaccinating humans. And again, I’m very concerned about the mRNA vaccine that would be. used as the quote-unquote vaccination. And I meant to ask Dr. Sina McCullough this, but is this mRNA vaccine that they’re talking about, is that an emergency vaccine, just like the COVID vaccine, or has it been tested and FDA approved? So that’s probably a question that I need to ask Pam Long on that. So good questions on that. Let’s see here. Other things. Oh, gosh, a lot coming in. This is really a lot of concern regarding what has happened with this potential gain of function research on that. And let’s see. Let’s see here. I think that’s oh, this is from Sandra. She said, I really appreciate Kevin Lumberg’s Truth Tuesdays. Thank you. And that Elon Musk is our watchman on the wall. So prayers are being answered daily and we’re strapped in. We the people need to participate and join in this battle. Absolutely. Sandra, we need to do that. And here in Colorado, we are at the tip of the spear. The work that my colleagues and I are doing at the Colorado Union of Taxpayers is so important. And so be sure and join us. You can do that by going to coloradotaxpayer.org. It’s just 25 bucks. And we will get you the email that we send out to legislators and the governor on Mondays. Everybody spends a lot of time on that. But and we’ve taken positions already on 119 bills. And so that’s really important to join us on that. And then also, again, thank you to all of you who have supported the Colorado 2024 election project. We’ve got those lawsuits out there in that legal ping pong back and forth now. And stay tuned because we need to do what we can here in Colorado. So our quote for the end of the show, I went to George Washington since his birthday is this week on the 22nd. And also we honored President’s Day. And he said this, truth will ultimately prevail where there are pains taken to bring it to light. So today, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals, and like Superman, stand firm. for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you, and God bless America.
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