Welcome to the Kim Monson Show podcast. Kim Monson is your host. Is there a good reason to violate rights? My fellow Liberty Toastmasters discuss how to distinguish between the natural rights of the individual versus the violation of rights by the establishment of collective entitlements and how that is playing out in 2025 America. Professor Kurt Gerwitz addresses AI on Wall Street and also an individual’s legacy. Cattleman with La Vaca Meat Company Jim May shares some cowboy poetry. ————————————————————————————– The Kim Monson Show airs on KLZ 560 AM every Monday thru Friday, 6-8 AM MST. You can
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Yes, ma’am. I can do that with my Apple HomePod as well.
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And that’s anywhere in the country, huh?
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I believe so.
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Oh, man, this technology thing. I am a dinosaur. So anyway, so anywhere. In the country. And that person, that joyful laugh that you just heard is my good friend, Carol Baker, who is the president of Liberty Toastmasters North. Today is Liberty Toastmasters Day. It’s going to be super interesting. Thank you for being here.
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Well, I’m glad to be here. Liberty Toastmasters is one of your sponsors, but we appreciate the opportunity to give people from our club a chance to do that public speaking job. on the radio with a microphone and it’s a it’s a really unique opportunity for uh our our fellow liberty toastmasters and i i think they’re really stepping up and they’re learning so much about it no kidding and there’s nothing like practical experience it’s not like doing a little thing at home listening to maybe a podcast or doing a training module but to get to actually get together with different people every couple weeks and uh practice these things we get together twice a month for our club liberty toastmasters we meet downtown at independence institute that is the first and third saturday of the month then liberty toastmasters north meets in longmont and that is the second and fourth saturday of the month so some of us will attend each other’s clubs and get to go perhaps to four meetings a month and get some practice at hearing these things
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well it has really helped me get my voice and i still have so much improvement to make but we all do but that’s why i love liberty toastmasters and if people are thinking about running for office or helping with a campaign testifying at city council down at the state house i would highly recommend that they join us at liberty toastmasters people think And I was guilty of this as well that, oh, I think I know how to speak. I think you’ve said.
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I’m the one who says, oh, I’ve already known how to talk. I just need to know how to speak.
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And that’s really important. And so we’d love to have people join us on this. Several things. Let’s see. First thing, let’s get to our word of the day. The word of the day is symbiotic. It’s S-Y-M-B-I-O-T-I-C. It’s an adjective. It could be involving two types of animal or plant in which each provides the conditions necessary for the other to exist or involving people or groups. organizations that depend on each other equally, you might say at this point that there’s a symbiotic relationship between Donald Trump and Elon Musk. Yes?
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Yes. Each of them seems to do better by having the other one with them. And not that they do the same functions, but the better. Do you know, it seems to me that when I learned that word, I heard of the… that maybe many other people learn, and that is the rhinoceros out on the African safari that has this little bird that lives on top of it. But this bird sustains itself with things that it picks off the top of the rhinoceros that’s been embedded in the dried mud. But the rhinoceros benefits from having that little bird. Yeah.
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And so, yes, that’s a symbiotic relationship as well. And I’m taking this word of the day. That’s something that we do at Liberty Toastmasters, and it’s to help us increase our vocabulary so that we can impress our friends and family.
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Oh, is that why we do it, Kim? Is it the dinner table?
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Actually, maybe a little bit. Maybe a little bit. So I’ve added that into the show. The next thing, it is Friday, and that is our quote of the day. I take that from the Medal of Honor quote book that has been put together by the Center for American Values, which is located down in Pueblo, Colorado. I’d highly recommend that you get the book. have it in your freedom library. And it is not all of the portraits that they have there, not all of the Medal of Honor recipients are included in the book, but there’s many of them. And the Center for American Values is located in Pueblo. It is nonpartisan and nonpolitical, focused on these foundational principles of honor, integrity, and patriotism. So our quota today is from Alan J. Lynch, United States Army Medal of Honor. He was born in 1945, and this was actions he took during the Vietnam War. And many of these citations, Carol, are long. And I kind of blindsided Brad Beck initially and also with Kane and Alan last week without giving them the citation because many times there can be a lot in there. So I sent that over to you. But I like having different voices with this. So if you would start with the citation for the Medal of Honor for Alan J. Lynch.
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And he’s the one who provided your quote for the day, huh? Yes. All right. with a numerically superior enemy force. Quickly and accurately assessing the situation, Sergeant Lynch provided his commander with information, which subsequently proved essential in the unit’s successful actions. Observing three wounded comrades lying exposed to enemy fire, Sergeant Lynch dashed across 50 meters of open ground through a withering hail. of enemy fire to administer aid, reconnecting a nearby trench to a covered position to protect the wounded from the intense hostile fire. He killed two enemy soldiers at point blank range with the trench cleared. He unhesitatingly returned to the fire swept area three times to carry the wounded men to safety.
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And when his company was forced to withdraw by the superior firepower of the enemy, Sergeant Lynch remained to aid his comrades at the risk of his life rather than abandon them. Alone, he defended his isolated position for two hours against the advancing enemy. Using only his rifle and a grenade, he stopped them just short of his trench, killing five. Again, disregarding his safety in the face of withering hostile fire, he crossed 70 meters of exposed terrain five times to carry his wounded comrades to a more secure area. Once he had assured their comfort and safety, Sergeant Lynch located the counteracting friendly company to assist in directing the attack and evacuating the three casualties. His gallantry at the risk of his life is in the highest traditions of the military service. Sergeant Lynch has reflected great credit on himself, the 12th Cavalry, and the United States Army. And he said this, and he said, I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me.
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Philippians. I wish I knew the rest of the reference.
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I want to say 114. I didn’t bring the book with me, but I’m not sure which one it is either. But I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me. And that is Alan J. Lynch. Love that, huh? Wow. Yeah. Wow. Okay. Next thing, our bill of the day is one you need to take a look at. And this is one that Gammy, once she really got into it, she was probably needing high blood pressure medication. And this is House Bill 251165, geologic data. storage enterprise and geothermal resources this actually has bipartisan support because i’m not sure that people really understand what this is and um even our cup board members were divided on this but the majority is opposing the bill so we are a no on this And again, that’s House Bill 25 of 1165. We said the bill creates a geologic storage stewardship enterprise in the Department of Natural Resources for carbon capture sequestration and groundwater sourced geothermal energy. So, first of all, this carbon sequestration and these transmission lines, we’ve talked enormously about this on the show, and there’s, I think, great danger in that. But anyway, we continued on at CUT, and I would recommend that all of you join us at the Colorado Union of Taxpayers. And it says this bill covers two topics and therefore should be two separate bills, one dealing with the underground carbon sequestration and the other dealing with groundwater sourced heat pump systems. The proposed commission is mostly independent of the state yet having the authority to issue bonds. That’s dangerous, where we have unelected people encumbering us to pay off debt. It says, lastly, the whole concept of underground carbon sequestration is predicated on a climate crisis which has not settled science. The technology is extremely expensive, often making power plants run at a loss without subsidies. Additionally, carbon capture and storage projects rarely see success, with many failing to materialize due to the high cost involved. For instance, the Petra Nova coal plant in Texas, once seen as a success story, closed after underperforming. And so we are a no on that, and that is House Bill 25-1165. We get all this information because of our sponsors, and one of those sponsors is Hooters Restaurants, and they have five locations, Loveland, Aurora, Lone Tree, Westminster, and Colorado Springs, and great lunch specials. And today, Kurt Gerwitz and I are planning on going over Hooters restaurant for lunch a little bit later today. So be sure and give them a little bit of your business. Another great sponsor is the Roger Mangan State Farm Insurance team. And we recorded some of his spots yesterday. And my gosh, he’s so knowledgeable. The team cares so much about their customers. Give them a call and make a complimentary appointment at 303-795-8855. Like a good neighbor, the Roger Mangan team is there.
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And welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That’s kimmonson.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at kim at kimmonson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We’re an independent voice, and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something’s a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And my good friend Carol Baker is in studio. She’s the president of Liberty Toastmasters Denver. And we’ll be talking with our buddies here in a little bit. That’s right. And on the line we have Britta Horn. And Britta is running for Colorado State GOP chair. And Britta Horn, welcome to the show. Good morning. Good morning, ladies. Thanks for having me. Well, it’s good to have you, Britta. And I sometimes think state GOP chair is kind of a thankless job. Why are you throwing your hat into the ring?
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Oh, definitely. I’m throwing my hat in the ring because… I think it’s time to have a party that’s going in the right direction and making sure that we’re winning elections, growing the party, and really getting as many resources as we can to make sure that we can do one and two.
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Well, it seems that there’s really a fissure in the Colorado Republicans right now. How what do you think is going to be the best way to repair that?
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Well, definitely. I think if we repair our relationships, we have lost that sense of getting along and talking to people and making sure that all voices of the Republican Party is definitely getting, you know, heard. And that, because you know this, Ken, we’ve been doing this stuff for years. You know, who would be a good candidate in one county, like, say, Douglas County, is going to be a different kind of candidate that we can get along with. IN MINERAL COUNTY. WE HAVE TO MEET THE NEEDS OF THE PEOPLE WHO ARE THE REPUBLICANS IN THE COMMUNITIES, IN THE LOCAL AREAS, AND LISTEN TO THEM, WHAT KIND OF candidate they need and what kind of you know direction they want to go for their community and if we don’t do that and just to have this one size fits all kind of party that’s what we’re losing because we can’t seem to get our messaging and our communication straight so what’s one of the that maybe the first thing that you would do if elected as colorado state gop chair I definitely just put out an action plan my first 100 days as the Colorado GOP chair, but definitely unifying the party. We have to do what I just said. We have to make sure we align with the county chairs and elected officials and grassroots leaders. And I also wanted… making sure they have all the needs they need for all 64 counties, making sure they have training, and then helping them learn with local leadership, and definitely implementing some programs, especially for younger people. We have a lot of young Republicans that are on our team and have endorsed me, and they just want to make sure that we can get them in, understand what the job is. The job’s really simple, Kim. We definitely just have to follow a process of making sure we’re taking care of the leadership in the community, making sure we’re listening to people, and reaching out and finding everybody who has, we know, Overall, Colorado still has a red tinge to it in the outlying areas. And we want to just make sure we’re taking care of those voices and hearing from them. And there’s a long list more, but definitely financial transparency. We definitely need to do an audit on all the books here at the party because we’re not seeing that and we’re losing without that transparency. We’re not getting that integrity. We’re not getting that trust. And people are looking for that. And if you’re not going to see that, then walk away.
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Okay. One of the issues, Britta, that people have been – it’s been a big issue, I would just say, in the Republican ranks, and that is this open primary thing. What’s your thoughts about that? Yes.
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Open primary, yeah. We definitely, at this point, is what we did. That’s back, remember, that Prop 108, and that happened back in, what, 2016. And I definitely, my husband and I, we definitely saw it. When we saw that pass, that just doesn’t make any sense that there’s a group of people who are not part of the party, are not on the team. You know, like I say a lot of times that are out on the bench, you know, the bench. and the bleachers watching the game, and then they get to vote on who the team captain is or the coach is. So thanks for appreciating that. It’s like, how do you do that? So, you know, we definitely went over to Claremont institute because we know they’re carrying that lawsuit and uh we gave money to them because we think it’s unconstitutional i know you and i would believe that as a principle it’s unconstitutional so we’re against all that from happening and yet this is the game we’re playing with right now and so we’re working with that right now to make sure we can get as many conservatives to vote for our candidates and then hopefully that will come through and i don’t think we’re going to see any any daylight from that lawsuit in 25 or 26 But we’ve still got to figure out how we can make sure we can get more candidates to win because we’re only 22.79% of the whole state in terms of Republicans in the Republican Party.
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Okay. So the lawsuit, because I had Eastman on yesterday, and we talked a little bit about it. And it’s been kind of a sticky point regarding state GOP chairs on whether or not they would support that lawsuit. So where do you stand on that?
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Oh, definitely. The lawsuit that is with Claremont Institute saying that it’s unconstitutional. Absolutely. Yeah, like I said, we gave money to them to say we want to be a part of that because that’s all you can do with the lawsuit right now. We can’t sit here and fight about it and mince words. We have to wait for the lawsuit to go through. But we do believe it’s unconstitutional. Okay.
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Britta, I think I hear you saying we want to expand the tent. What would be your message to unaffiliateds that are out there? What would be the message? Because I really think that we have the important message, but somehow in Colorado it doesn’t seem like we’re able to get that out to them sometimes.
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Right. I think it’s our communications and our public relations. We’ve got to revamp that and make it a strategy that delivers that mission, that compelling vision of us, strengthening those relationships and having those one-on-one talks. And when I was down and working for the Trump campaign in New Mexico down in 2020, We did all these things that I would like to institute is going into the communities, and they’re kind of like pop-up events. They’re just like quick events in your community and start talking and reaching out because we’re hearing the other side just hearing not the truth, whatever you want to call that, and everybody’s buying into it. And it’s just like we’re not doing a good job of messaging and communicating and saying we really do have a very less-government, you know, less taxes, more freedom, kind of information to get across. And I think the more and more we’re doing that, especially with, like, the economy, like when we’re talking about, we cannot talk till the cows come home about how expensive eggs are, but, you know, it’s really hurting our community. It’s really hurting our state. Right, all the costs, but we can just go with that one alone. I couldn’t believe I had to pay 68 cents for an egg the other day because Costco was out of eggs. We couldn’t even buy any. And it’s just…
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That’s the thing, Britta, when government gets involved, just like they did with, well, first of all, killing all the chickens because of the bird flu, killing healthy chickens, which is crazyville, instead of those with natural immunity, letting them continue to make the flock stronger, but then also dictating the square footage of chickens. Well, then what happens is the price goes up. The supply goes down. Here we’re seeing shortages. And the quality, we end up having challenges on quality as well. Britta, I want to say thank you for throwing your hat in the ring. How can people get more information about you?
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Oh, definitely. Thank you very much. So my website is BrittaHorn.com, B-R-I-T-A-H-O-R-N.com. I’m on Twitter at Real Britta Horne. I’m on Facebook. I have two Facebook pages. I’d love for anybody to reach out and let’s chat about these things and let’s do this. We’re 30 days away from this election, and we have got to win it for Colorado. Okay.
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Britta Horne, thank you so much. All right. Thank you, Kim. Bye now. Definitely. And last night I met a friend at a restaurant down in Old Littleton, and they serve Lavaca meat. And I had a delicious filet from Lavaca Meat Company last night. And it certainly, though, is, even at home, the steakhouse experience at home.
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Yes, it is. It is Friday. Welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. Thank you so much for joining us. You’re each treasured, you’re valued, you have purpose. Strive for excellence today, my friends. And thank you to the Harris family for their gold sponsorship of the show. It is because of all of your support that our independent voice on this independent station are on the air. And Lucy, thank you. That quote of the day from Ellen J. Lynch says, United States Army Medal of Honor recipient is I Can Do All Things Through Christ Who Strengthens Me is Philippians 4.13. Lucy, thanks for being on top of that. Thank you, Lucy. And Carol Baker, my good friend, and she is the president of Liberty Toastmasters Denver. We meet the first and third Saturdays of each month at the Independence Institute. Easy for you to say. And the Liberty Toastmasters North meets the second and fourth Saturdays in Longmont. That’s right. So I did want to mention before we get into this, tomorrow there’s going to be an event. And it is going to be up in Fort Collins. And it is a march for Tina Peters, as many of you know. She is in the Larimer County Jail, and this will be 11 to 2, meeting at the corner of Timberline and Prospect in Fort Collins. So I wanted to let people know about that. And so let’s jump in here with our buddies, Carol Baker, and get onto it. And our subject, it’s a pretty interesting subject. Yeah, and what it is is basically individual rights and how they match up against collective entitlements. That’s kind of the bottom line on it.
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Right. I think we see both sides of that so easily. When somebody’s explaining one side, it makes so much sense. Until somebody’s explaining the other side, then it makes so much sense. We’re going to have a chance to hear from Marla Fernandez today, and she’s somebody that I have crossed paths with. As we were hearing from Britta Horne about Colorado Republican Party issues, Marla and I have seen each other in CrossPaths as we have worked toward Colorado House Representative races. That’s been basically my heart is the state level. But when we get to these meetings of Toastmasters, we get to work on the nuts and bolts of how to present something well. And we all want to strive to get better at that. So sometimes we’re leaving out the content, but just talking about the delivery. Mm-hmm. And I’ve seen Marla come along, so it’s a long way. So Marla Fernandez, welcome to the show.
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Hi, how are you? Thank you for inviting me.
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So what’s your thoughts, Marla, basically individual rights versus the violation of those rights with collective entitlements?
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In our society, I wanted to bring in a story. When we speak about rights, we often lose sight of their true essence. and those natural rights endowed by our creator. I saw this up close at El Centro when I worked in the early 2000s as a volunteer, where immigrants, particularly undocumented day laborers, sought a chance to work with dignity. But what began as help often spiraled into dependency and control, a stark distortion of the rights they were promised. And this experience opened my eyes to how easily rights can be manipulated into mere entitlement by those in power. So natural rights like life, liberty, and property are inherent, independent of any government grants. And yet when governments start granting rights They also assume the power of restricting them, converting unalienable rights into privileges that can be revoked. So this is not just a theory. At El Centro, I witnessed the slow erosion of these real rights as government help. expanded into entitlements that ultimately controlled and limited freedom. And this issue reaches beyond El Centro to the recent shifts in policy. When we don’t carefully distinguish between empowering individuals and granting entitlements, we create a dependency that serves the interests of power, not the people. And we must question Who truly benefits when rights are redefined? Are we protecting individual freedom, or are we allowing a powerful few to dictate the boundaries of our liberty? Let’s ensure that our policies and debates honor the spirit of the founding principles. Observe closely how rights are discussed and defined. It’s the essence of our freedom at stake.
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Well done, Marla. Thank you so much. Very well done.
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Okay, Carol, who is our next guest? One of our regulars, and that is Rick Rome, and I always like to hear what he has to say on these things. So, Rick, what’s your thoughts?
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Individual rights and collective entitlements.
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Well, I’ll tell you, ladies, I’m reminded of my grandmother, an incredible woman, first-generation immigrant from Eastern European country, brilliant woman, spoke seven languages, had nine children. Wow. Yeah, exactly. One of the things that she used to teach us when we were all very young, all of our grandkids and great-grandchildren, was you have something, you take care of it. You have a home, you have a room, you clean your room, you take care of it. You make sure that God has given you these things. You respect God by handling them in a way that’s responsible. We were given a gift in this country. And that gift is not the rights that are inalienable by God. We were given the gift of a country that acknowledged that those rights were inalienable by God and saw fit to enshrine it in the Constitution. So this notion of life, liberty, pursuit of happiness, we have an obligation to keep those things clean and in the best condition that we possibly can. I hear my grandma’s voice right now telling me that I have to do my part. And, you know, these things are under assault. Let’s not fool ourselves. We have abortion and the assault on women that’s coming from the left in terms of their roles in the family and their valuable role in society and their role in raising children. I mean, my grandmother had nine of them. She should know. Our rights on pursuit of happiness, assault on property rights, which is the mechanism that we’re able to do that. We have an obligation to protect those things. But that’s where the collective obligations come in, and I don’t necessarily see it as entitlements. I see it as an obligation that we have as a collective. And that’s where the Bill of Rights, we start talking about those ideas. The freedom of speech is under assault in Europe. But we have a Toastmasters Club in the Denver metropolitan area and also in the Longmont area where we talk about these things exactly and learn to articulate in a voice that is clear, concise, and persuasive. A great way to exercise that First Amendment right and that collective responsibility we have to our rights. We’re in an off-year election cycle, which means they’re nonpartisan races. You have an obligation to inform yourself and vote. It’s incredibly important that you do both of those things. An uninformed vote is like waving around a loaded gun.
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You’re right.
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You’re right, Rick Rome. It’s scary when you stop and think about it. And people are doing so on a partisan basis without considering what it is that they’re actually doing. So in a nonpartisan, off your election cycle, find a candidate, one that you believe in. You had Britta Horne talking about the party politics side of things. We have mayoral races. There’s school board races. Take your pick. Educate yourself about the candidate. They would love to hear from you. They would love to have you help them, whether it’s money, making phone calls, knocking doors, hanging a sign. Get involved in a way that you feel comfortable and do so. But foremost and first, protect those rights. They’re important. We have an obligation.
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Thank you, Rick Rome, and I wish I would have known your grandmother.
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Well, I will add one last thing since you guys were talking about chickens. I named mine rice, noodles, dumplings, and cordon bleu. And dumplings and noodles better get on the stick or they’re going to live up to their namesake.
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That is funny, Rick Rowe. It is. He’s clever. He’s very clever.
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Okay, Carol, who is our next guest? Well, we have the opportunity to hear from Marshall Dawson today. What’s going on, Marshall?
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Well, I’ll tell you, Carol, and good morning, Kim. You know, I think something that many people don’t know is when you call in, there’s this brief pause where you really can’t hear what’s going on on the show. And all of a sudden, when I pop in, I hear Rick Rome talking about chickens. I missed something good. I don’t know what that is. All right. But listen, I’m going to take this topic of entitlements and proper role of government and One thing you know is that when we do table topics, sometimes we get to call an audible and maybe play off of a topic or discuss something completely different. I wanted to mention that my experience as a candidate is that often there are voters who look for candidates who will violate others’ rights. And they’re not willing to vote for you unless you’re willing to do that. And maybe it’s the government’s job to provide for everyone. If you’re not willing to do that, then you’re not going to get their vote. So I do want to say that it’s really good that we are discussing this. I know that, you know, the other people who call in are going to have some great things to say about it, you know, so that we get ahead of that conversation, you know, ahead of election time. But I did want to say also there are voters who intentionally and who are willing to use government to violate rights. For example, let’s say that I want a new rec center nearby me. And I want to vote for city councilmen who will condemn property in a poor part of town and put that up. That’s one way that voters will have governments violate rights. I did want to point out something as well. 20 years ago, we had the Kelo decision in the Supreme Court. That allowed for governments to take private property from one entity and and give it to another private owner under the guise of, well, it’s going to be better for the city or the municipality because it’s a public use because this owner is going to use it better. We’ll get more tax money. It was a horrendous decision. It was so egregious that almost all states just started lining up to pass laws that would prevent that from happening. Now, with all the great news that we’ve been seeing recently in the last few weeks, you might have missed that last Friday, Bowers v. Oneida County Industrial Agency was argued in front of the Supreme Court. This is another case where property was taken from one private owner and, in this case, actually given to their competitor. And so what is asked of the Supreme Court is whether the public use clause can require something more than just the minimal rational basis when the government takes from one owner to give to another. And specifically, should Kelo be overturned? So I’m really optimistic that with the current makeup of the Supreme Court, we can get away from the 20 years of government being able to take from one private owner and give to another. And hopefully in whatever it takes, six to eight months for a decision to come down, You know, this will be one more example where we are winning in 2025.
SPEAKER 10 :
Boy, great point on that, Marshall. We could expand on that significantly. I have all these things I want to talk with you about on that. We don’t have time, but Marshall Dawson, thank you so much. And our next person, who’s that going to be here, Carol?
SPEAKER 16 :
We have somebody who’s from the Liberty Tourism Minister’s North Club, and that is Carol VanLandingham. I have not met you yet, Carol. I’m going to have to get up to your club before long just to make sure I meet you. So what’s on your mind today about this event?
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, it’s nice to be on. Thank you, Tim and Carol. Thank you for hosting. So here’s a couple of things that I’ve been talking about since I found out what the topic was yesterday. America’s built on the principle that our rights come from our creator, not from the government. Things like freedom of speech, property rights, and personal responsibility define our society. But often, I think that they’re threatened by the growing push for collective entitlement. government-funded programs that require wealth redistribution. I believe that helping those in need is a moral choice. It’s very important. But when the government forces it, it’s not charity, it’s control. And every entitlement comes at a cost, higher taxes, more regulations, and less individual freedoms. History proves that when the government expands, liberty shrinks. So I believe the question is simple. Do we want to be a nation of free individuals or dependent subjects? I think the choice is ours. Yeah.
SPEAKER 10 :
Wow. Well done on that, Carol Van Landingham. Any other thoughts on that? I’ll be ruminating on that all day.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah. I like that last question. It just kind of makes me think about, yeah, what do we want? Yep. Okay. Thank you.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, great. Carol Van Landingham, that is awesome. Thank you so much for sharing that. And any other thoughts on that? I’m going to ask her just to repeat that last question she just said.
SPEAKER 16 :
Do we want…
SPEAKER 15 :
The question is, do we want to be a nation of free individuals or dependent subjects?
SPEAKER 16 :
Or dependent subjects. See, I’m hearing a theme through here. Thank you.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well done, Carol Van Landingham. Thank you so much. And I did want to mention that the USMC Memorial Foundation, Paula Sarles, will be doing a Celebrate the Climb. 426 steps out in Red Rocks in honor of her 76th birthday and the Marine birthday, as well as some of our Iwo Jima vets that are turning 100. You can get more information about that by going to usmcmemorialfoundation.org. That’s usmcmemorialfoundation.org. And all this happens because of our sponsors. And one of those for everything mortgages is Lorne Levy.
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SPEAKER 10 :
And welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at Kim Monson dot com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We’re an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something’s a good idea, you shouldn’t have to force people to do it. And Carol Baker is in studio with me. She is the president of Liberty Toastmasters Denver.
SPEAKER 16 :
That’s right. And we have another one of our regular members here calling in, and that is Ross Klopp. And Ross, it’s been interesting to see your development during the time that you’ve been meeting with us consistently at Toastmasters. But I also like to hear you fairly regularly here on our Liberty Toastmasters Day on the commencement show. So have you given this some thought? And what do you think about these subjects of individual rights and entitlements?
SPEAKER 04 :
Oh, yeah. Thank you so much for having me on today. Good morning, Kim and Carol. And yeah, I’ve given this a lot of thought. And basically, there are the individual rights that are generally the rights in the Constitution, freedom of speech, religion, freedom of unreasonable searches and seizures and so on. Those are the rights that are actual rights. And then there are what I like to call bogus rights. And those are rights that politicians just make up out of thin air. And it’s basically like a bribe for votes. And those, unfortunately, take away another right. And usually they take away the right of property and higher taxes. So that’s one way that politicians will eliminate or try to eliminate a God-given right. The other method that they like to use is they will just directly go after that right. And unfortunately, that’s what we’re seeing now in Colorado with all this anti-Second Amendment legislation that we’re seeing at the state. More than 20 laws proposed that are going against the Second Amendment in the last five years. And when a government does that, they almost always have the same reason for it. And that’s supposedly public safety. The two problems with that argument are, first of all, all this gun control has made public safety worse. Crime has gone up. Violent crime has gone up as well. And you can look at other states like Washington, and they have the same pattern that we’re seeing in Colorado. It’s not just in Colorado. And then the second reason is, Our state really doesn’t care about public safety very much, unfortunately. You could just look at our highways that resemble more of a NASCAR track than a highway. Good point.
SPEAKER 10 :
It’s not funny, but it’s funny.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, it’s pretty bad. I went down to Arizona about a week ago, and I mean, I’d like counting the cars that were going over 100. And I only saw one patrol car all the way down to the state line. So it’s not like it’s being patrolled very closely either. Now, actually, patrolling highways, that doesn’t go against any of our rights because there is actually, there’s no right that says you have the right to drive like a maniac on the highways. So that would be something I’d actually be okay with the state doing. And unfortunately, they’re not really doing that. So if they’re really interested in public safety, that’s where I would look first. And they’re not doing that. So basically, we’ve got to do everything we can to protect our rights. And one thing we can do is call our representatives, elected officials and governor and tell them that this is unacceptable, having a legislature going after our rights. So thank you.
SPEAKER 10 :
Thank you very much. He has such a good sense of humor.
SPEAKER 16 :
He does.
SPEAKER 10 :
Bogus rights. I love that.
SPEAKER 16 :
Right. He can get us tickled. But you know, that keeps it light enough that you want to go ahead and keep listening to him. And then after you listen to him a little bit, I know that he does what he’s talking about.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, he does.
SPEAKER 16 :
He does make presentations at the state capitol. Yeah, definitely. So who’s our next guest here? Well, we have a chance to hear from Bennett Rutledge. I’m sure he also has given these things some thought. And Yeah, share something from your point of view, Bennett Rutledge.
SPEAKER 20 :
Thank you. For the perfect segue, I wanted to talk about the right to participate in your government. It’s not just calling an elected representative. It’s not just writing a letter. It’s going down to the state capitol and watching laws being made. Not for the faint of heart, I’ll tell you. Right. True. And it also includes the right to show up at a public trial, which means, unlike has happened to me in the past, the city government refusing to tell me when my friend’s trial was going to be held so that I could be there to give moral support. Mm-hmm. And right now we’re having some trouble with the state legislature. One of the bills that’s in the air is SB25-003. Well, it used to be called the semi-automatic firearms ban, and it’s sort of snowballed from there. A little over a week ago, I was looking on the schedule, and it was supposed to be taken up next Tuesday. But it’s not on the schedule for the House Judiciary Committee anymore. However, what has shown up on that schedule is a bill putting a muzzle on civil asset forfeiture. So one way or the other, I’m going to be down at the State Capitol in House Committee Room 0107 as soon as the House side adjourns, or as soon thereafter as I can, to speak my mind on whichever shows up. I invite you to join me.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay. And again, what day is that, Bennett Rutledge? Tuesday, March 4th. Tuesday, March 4th.
SPEAKER 16 :
Can’t believe March 4th is next week. That’s after a rally at noon on the west steps of the Capitol and before the State of the Union address at 7 o’clock that night. Okay, Bennett. Yeah, we just might as well get busy with all of our civic activism all in one day.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, we have a responsibility to do so. Bennett Rutledge, thank you so much. And thank you. Bye. Okay, Carol. I learned so much from our colleagues, and I love doing this on the show as well. I know people learn a lot. So what’s your thoughts about all this?
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, I hear a theme through all of this today, and yet this theme is presented by people. from different points of view and different experiences and different priorities. And that’s what you refer to as we learn things from different people. We learn different things from different people because there’s no way any one of us just knows all of this. So, uh, The theme I’ve heard in here, though, is that I recognize there are times when a government entity can support some sort of plan to do something, take some action to make some improvement in a neighborhood or public safety or the economy or just, you know, development or whatever. But it eventually takes away some choices and opportunities from government. People as individuals, as residents, or as business operators, owners. And as I notice that, when you start hearing that something’s too good to be true, and you start hearing there must be another side to this, I notice Marshall in particular is good at this, and that is presenting the other side to that. Be concerned ahead of time about the unintended consequences of Think about, wait a minute, is this really right? You know, this is America and you’re taking away somebody’s individual rights. Marla made a reference to it as it may be a process that ends up becoming something the government can control. If they gave you the right, they can take it away. What started out as a beneficial thing, right? But if I’m going to hear somebody present another side of something, how at Toastmasters can we learn how to present that in a way that somebody still wants to listen to it? Because if we sound oppositional, if we sound defiant, if we just sound like just, yeah, but, and sound stubborn, who wants to listen to that? If we just sound like we’re being contrary, right? So how do we present another side in a way that still sounds like we are taking the listener’s situation as we value their situation and value their point of view and let them hear that. You know, when I was a teenager, I didn’t want to hear my parents say, now you know there’s another side to that. You know, I was just resistant. I already had my mind made up. I already heard the good side. So I think we tend to be naturally resistant to skill, I believe, and practice and hearing feedback from others about how do we present the other side in a way that somebody still wants to listen. So and that’s such an interesting point in
SPEAKER 10 :
And one of our listeners earlier this week said, how do you, and I’m paraphrasing, find common ground with the radical activist leftists? And I don’t think that we can on that. I think that what we’re really battling for in this battle of ideas is the big, broad middle, which is the unaffiliated, which is the blue dog Democrats. They need to understand that this Democrat Party is no longer the Democrat Party of JFK or their grandpa or their grandma. This is radical activists. This is communistic agendas that we’re seeing with this Denver mayor, with this legislature, with this governor that’s in control there. So I think we’re battling for that big, broad middle. So your blue-dog Democrats, unaffiliated, libertarians, Republicans, conservatives. And I think that we’ve got to get that message down of proper rule of government. And I think Carol… nailed it with her question. Yes. Do we want to be free individuals or dependent subjects? I think she nailed it.
SPEAKER 16 :
Right. And she says, do we want to be a nation of collectively as individuals? We have some control over what we are going to become collectively.
SPEAKER 10 :
And so do we want to be a free nation? And collective goes into control and to force. Or do we want to have freedom? Those are really the questions. And so I really appreciate everybody’s perspective on this. And again, Carol, it’s great. It’s always such a treat to have you in studio. I like being here in person, yes.
SPEAKER 16 :
And, again, inviting people to Liberty Toastmasters. That’s right. That’s right. We have a meeting tomorrow morning, as a matter of fact. Tomorrow is the first Saturday of March. Ready or not, February is a short month. March 1st is here already. So we will be meeting March 1st and March 15th, two weeks from now. So at the Independence Institute. That’s right. Right. Downtown 16th and Clarkson. Right. I have my favorite parking spot. And it’s nice on Saturday mornings to head downtown. The traffic’s a lot lighter and whatever. And I just the more often I go, the less intimidated I am about being there. So, yeah, come on down.
SPEAKER 10 :
And more information, Liberty, you can go to libertytoastmasters.org, I think.
SPEAKER 16 :
Clubs, liberty.toastmastersclubs.org.
SPEAKER 10 :
Or you can just go to Toastmasters National or International and put in Liberty Toastmasters. Carol, thanks for being here. You’re welcome. You’re the best. Okay. And our quote for the end of the show is from Plautus. He said, Courage is what preserves our liberty, safety, life, and our homes and parents, our country and children. Courage comprises all things. So today, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you, and God bless America.
SPEAKER 12 :
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SPEAKER 13 :
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SPEAKER 10 :
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SPEAKER 10 :
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SPEAKER 13 :
Is it freedom or is it force? Let’s have a conversation.
SPEAKER 10 :
Indeed, let’s have a conversation, and welcome to the Kim Monson Show. Thank you so much for joining us. You’re each treasured, you’re valued, you have purpose. Today, strive for excellence. Take care of your heart, your soul, your mind, and your body, my friends. We were made for this moment in history. Thank you to the team, Producer Joe, Luke, Rachel, Zach, Echo, Charlie, Mike, Teresa, Amanda, all the people here at Crawford Broadcasting. Friday, it is Friday, Producer Joe, and I know that you always… I have a sigh of relief after Liberty Toastmasters because it’s a lot of moving parts to make all that happen, but it’s so good. I love it.
SPEAKER 08 :
It’s certainly a fun segment, but I need, like, arms, legs, and maybe a couple extra arms to be able to do it sometimes.
SPEAKER 10 :
To make it all happen, for sure. Oh, I just saw this come across the wire. In studio with me is Kurt Gerwitz, and this is from Business News. Citigroup accidentally credited a client with $81 trillion, not $280, a report says today. But the near miss was caught before funds were actually transferred. I would notice if I had 81. That would take care of the debt.
SPEAKER 05 :
Almost.
SPEAKER 10 :
Wow. I don’t know what else to say. I think that’s pretty interesting. As you know, we look at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something’s a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. Thank you to the Harris family for their goal sponsorship of the show. We are an independent voice on an independent station and really do appreciate them. Our word of the day, Kurt Gerwitz, is symbiotic. S-Y-M-B-I-O-T-I-C. And it could be involving two types of animals or plants in which each provides the conditions necessary for the other to continue to exist. Or another could be involving people or organizations that depend on each other equally. And I think that Elon Musk and Donald Trump have somewhat of a symbiotic relationship, Kurt Gerwitz.
SPEAKER 05 :
You know, in business, we overuse the word synergy because that means one plus one equals two. It’s when two people or, you know, when you combine things that they add up to be the sum of the parts becomes greater as they become. So I like symbiotic better, though, since synergy is so abused.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, there is some synergy with what’s happening with Trump and Elon Musk. We haven’t talked about that. because it’s basically just been about four weeks, five weeks, I guess now, that Trump, too, I’m calling it Trump, too, has started on this really changing things up, I’ll say so. But let’s get over here to a couple of other things. Our quote of the day is from Medal of Honor recipient Alan J. Lynch. He was born in 1945. Actions that he took during the Vietnam War. Carol Baker and I went through that citation in the first hour. Pretty amazing. And this is his quote. He said, And so that is our quote of the day. And then our bill of the day is House Bill 25-1165, and it’s Geologic Storage Enterprise. First of all, that’s a very naughty word here in Colorado politics is enterprise because they’re moving it out of the purveyance of Colorado’s Taxpayers Bill of Rights. But Geologic Storage Enterprise and Geothermal Resources. and managing those. First of all, it’s not a proper bill because it has two things that it’s doing instead of one. We have a single-subject rule here in Colorado. But this is CUT, our Colorado Union of Taxpayers, and I need to give you their names quick-like. And that is, and when you see them, say thank you to this group. And they’re all volunteers. Steve Dorman, Greg Golianski, Russ Haas, Bill Hamill, Rob Knuth, John Nelson, Wendy Warner, Marty Nielsen, Rami Johnson, Mary Jansen, Dave Evans, Corey Onizorg, Paula Beard, and Ray Beard. These are all volunteers with me as we’re looking at legislation down at the Statehouse. And ding, ding, ding, my friends, as of this morning, do you want to take a guess, Kurt Gerwitz, on how many bills and resolutions have been proposed down at the Statehouse so far?
SPEAKER 05 :
The number 200 is showing up in my mind. 511.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah. Now, there are some good ones to try to roll some things back, but most all of it is very onerous. And so anyway, Colorado Union of Taxpayers, we’re a no on this, and this is what we said. Cut members are divided, but with the majority opposing this bill, the bill creates a geologic stewardship enterprise in the Department of Natural Resources for carbon capture, sequestration, and groundwater source geothermal energy. The bill covers two topics and so should be two separate bills, one dealing with the underground carbon sequestration and the other dealing with the groundwater sourced heat pump systems. The proposed commission is mostly independent of the state. Get that. Yet having the authority to issue bonds, which we, the taxpayers, have to pay off. So unelected people could encumber us to have to pay this off. Not okay. It says the fees may not be adequate to cover costs. Lastly, the whole concept of underground carbon sequestration is predicated on a climate crisis, which is not settled science. Be sure and check out our documentary, A Climate Conversation, and watch that for free. Did you… Oh, great. Okay, got that. It says the technology is extremely expensive, often making power plants run at a loss without subsidies. Additionally, carbon capture and storage projects rarely see success, with many failing to materialize due to the high cost involved. For instance, the Petra Nova coal plant in Texas, once seen as a success story, closed after underperforming. So that is our bill of the day, House Bill 25-1165. Cut is a no on that. And there is bipartisan sponsors on this as well. So we probably need to have some conversations on this, Kirk Gerwitz.
SPEAKER 05 :
I have listened to you say that twice now, and I don’t understand it. What do you mean? What does the bill do? Can we do one sentence on what they’re trying to do?
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay, this carbon sequestration, this is a big deal. This is taking CO2, which is plant food. and injecting it into the earth. And there’s been huge subsidies under both the Trump administration and Biden administration for these CO2 pipelines. And again, it’s government funding. that would be through these tax credits is manipulating the market. So we need to get rid of those tax credits. We should not be putting CO2 deep into the earth either. And then I don’t quite understand the whole geothermal thing yet, but that’s one of the big things. And enterprise zones is taking that out of the purveyance of that included in our Colorado Taxpayers Bill of Rights, the revenue and the expenses on that. And so it’s trying to do a runaround on that as well. So there’s all kinds of naughty things that’s going on with this bill. Did I make that? That’s not even clear.
SPEAKER 05 :
So the bill is not creating a geothermal, like they’re not pushing carbon into the ground because of this bill. They’re going to create something or they’re going to force a utility to do so, to do the sequestration.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, it could be that. It could be other things as well. It’s pretty complicated. That’s really a lot of our Wednesday morning conversations with Trent. But I guess just basic things. First of all, there’s two subjects. Second of all, enterprise zones, which we should not be doing enterprise zones anymore. And then there’s the whole carbon sequestration that’s based on the climate change narrative, which that is not settled science, even though they like to say it is. So there’s a lot of things that are wrong with this. And then the fact that this unelected enterprise zone could issue bonds that we have to pay off. So that’s the first four things. Debt is dangerous. Debt is dangerous. That’s true. But it is Friday, and one of the things I love about Fridays is Jim May, cattleman with Lavaca Meat Company, and his cowboy poems. Jim, welcome.
SPEAKER 19 :
Hey, good morning, Kim. Can you hear me all right? I’m on the road today.
SPEAKER 10 :
I gotcha. And last night, I met a friend at Grand Station in Littleton and had a great Lavaca steak. And I looked over and I thought, I know that guy. Well, it was your brother, Dan May. So I talked with your brother and Jerry there as well for just a few moments.
SPEAKER 19 :
Oh, wow. That’s great to hear. I didn’t know you did that. Actually, I am getting on. Uh, an airplane today, um, and flying to Nevada, I think wheels up at one o’clock. That’s kind of way I’m on the road. I’m going through the ranches and doing some work there. But yeah, you had, uh, you saw Dan and Jerry. Great. That’s, that’s awesome.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 19 :
And the steak was delicious. Steak and thank, and shout out to the grand. We appreciate those guys for, uh, Everything they’ve done featuring our meat there at the store, and anybody that wants to try our meat, go into the Grand and grab a steak or a burger, I think, right?
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, they have a burger as well, for sure. So, yes, definitely. So what do you have for us today, Jim May?
SPEAKER 19 :
So what, because I’m going west and flying, and I’m going to do this poem. I think I’ve done it once before on the radio. It was the 280Z, the talking lady. Now, the talking lady. Okay, now, this little card that my brother wrote, bought. Dan bought it. We both bought it when we were kind of in college, about 20 years old, 21. And as I told you, we had already purchased a section of land and we were trying to get things going. But when we had these ranches out in Nevada, we bought a little ranch out there in Nevada and we used to drive that Z out there. And it was called the Talking Lady because it was a limited edition 280Z and it If you left your lights on, it would say, your lights are on. She had a real sexy voice and everything. So anyway, I wrote this little ditty because today we’ll fly out there. We’re actually going to stay overnight tonight, and then we have a little plane that we jump in and go to the three or four ranches that we go to, and then we do everything in one day. So should I just – it’s about a five-minute deal, so I better get going, right? Okay, sounds good. Okay, here we go. The 280Z, the talking lady. My brother and me in the 280Z were always heading west to check the ranches and cattle. The board closed at noon, and we’d be gone just as soon as we could hop in that Z and skedaddle. That Z could fly like a hawk, and she could even talk. The limited edition for Nissan, the talking lady. We passed every car, truck, or bus, and it seemed like nobody passed us as we flew down Interstate 80. We needed to cross the Salt Flats, and then after that, we’ll have dinner at the State Line Casino. See all those Friday night lights, and if things went all right, maybe Saturday it’ll be the Nugget in Reno. This weren’t no vacation. Drought and fires and frustration slammed into a three-day road trip. The sea wouldn’t slow down as we passed every town looking for cattle that we wanted to ship. Those little American truck stops and the tourist gift shops flew by like the Wyoming wind. Across the Utah salt flats, the rattlesnakes and rats, but those casinos would be there at the end. Windover had us down because that dang border town got in our pocket and the house came out ahead. Who named that place? What a disgrace. They should have called it Bendover instead. Next morning, at 4, we’re out the door. Breakfast in Elko, just past the Ruby Range. That Z didn’t quit. That blue streak of it? To Stockman’s Casino, where our luck would all change. Then the talking lady comes on. She says, your lights are still on, in her normal, sly, sexy voice. We need some breakfast by now, and I’m hungry and wow. Steak and eggs, that’s always my choice. So now the Z gets a break, a ranch pickup we take to check out the stock in the range. A few hours need to be spent, so we were content to jump in Roy’s plane for a change. We fly over the range in that cowboy airplane. The high desert looks dry once again, but the cattle look good, and if they feed like they should, this might just work out in the end. We land and talk to our crews, and we tell them the news. We’ll buy supper tonight at the Star Restaurant. The sun goes down and we all go to town and enjoy the food and the fun and the bar. And the young bucks with us will taste a pecan and cuss. That’s a drink I can never get down. They’re like breasts on a woman. One’s never enough and three’s too many, you clown. It’s now Sunday morning, and yes, though it’s boring, we go to the church and we all take a knee. We pray for more rain and that we can handle the strain of the long drive back as we fire up the Z. She’s rested and shiny in that Nevada sun, and now she’s filled up and fired up and ready to run. Home to Denver, we head out. The lady seems to shout, your right door is open. I almost fell out. Things have changed some since then, but I remember when the Z in a dream was all that we had. Now the Z has become a jet, and lest we forget, all in all, the trip wasn’t that bad. For my brothers and me and the 280Z, it’s not the destination, but the journey now that we see. Now we do in one day what used to take three, and I love the vodka rocket, but sometimes I miss that 280Z. It’s funny now as I recall and wonder how we drove all, those 2,000 miles in the span of three days. As that jet touches down, it hardly makes a sound. I’d fallen asleep back there quite a ways. I was dreaming of the talking lady, her demeanor a bit shady. She’d been talking to me and the crew. Your lights are still on. The left exit door is now opened. and your annual services do. She sounds a little older, her mood a little bolder. I can hear that old voice in the sky. Please stow the tray table. Take out the trash if you’re able. The vodka rocket looks like a pig sty. I see you spilled some wine. There might be a fine. We try to keep this cabin in mint condition. My name is Captain Brady. I am the talking lady. Please return the stewardess to her original upright position. Okay, that’s a Jim May long one, guys.
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Indeed, it is Friday. Welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out my website. That’s Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter and you can email me at Kim at Kim Monson dot com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We’re an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something’s a good idea. You should not have to force people to do it. And do check out the USMC Memorial Foundation website. The details regarding the climb challenge that Paula Sarles, the president of the USMC Memorial Foundation, is going to do in honor of the Marine birthday, her birthday, and the Iwo Jima veterans from Cooper’s Troopers who are turning 100. And so make a make a pledge on how how much you will support her on her climb challenge there. And again, that’s at USMC Memorial Foundation dot org. Professor Kurt Gerwitz is in studio with me and Kurt. This whole AI thing, you’ve been on it, you’ve liked AI, and now there seems to be more happening with that. I’m actually seeing people that I work with use AI. So what do you want people to know?
SPEAKER 05 :
I’m going to try to get you at lunch today at Hooters. I’m going to try to get you to – we’re going to play with ChatGPT, which is one of the first topics I ever brought to you. It was November of 2022. Okay. Can you believe we’ve been doing this show that long together?
SPEAKER 09 :
Oh, my gosh.
SPEAKER 05 :
And, yeah, I just – when you see it, you’ll have an experience. You’ll have an emotional experience that the robot you’re talking to, boy, that does feel human. And so that was a big thing that got me interested in AI. And now, you know, I’m a college professor in finance. And so I teach this class on equity research. And so I love the stock market.
SPEAKER 10 :
So I give one of my publics… Equity, not the DEI equity, the other kind of equity, right?
SPEAKER 05 :
You know, that’s funny. I do have to explain to people that, you know, when there’s the balance sheet equation, everybody has to know the balance sheet equation. It’s assets equals liabilities plus equity. There’s no quiz for your… for your audience here, but yeah, we say liabilities plus equity, and I’m like, oh yeah, equity has different meanings out there. Yeah, so I’d love to talk about the stock market, and I was like, what is AI going to do to the stock market? Not just that we’ve got a smart robot, a better algorithm that can trade stocks, but what is gonna happen with these companies that are so heavily invested in AI we’re seeing it’s almost it’s about T trillion and you know my I do this every time I’m on the show how long is a million seconds and it’s about 11 days how long is a billion seconds And it’s 34 years. And how long is a trillion seconds? 34,000 years. And so like these numbers, we really lose sight of the difference between an M, a B and a T, millions and billions and trillions. And so we’ve spent a trillion dollars. on investing in AI, and how does that compare to World War II or the Cold War itself? I’ve got something I’m gonna tell you about today is the Sputnik moment, because we had a huge correction. But let me see, how is this landing with you so far?
SPEAKER 10 :
I’m interested.
SPEAKER 05 :
Hopefully not overwhelmed. I remember I was on the last month. I remember somebody wrote in. One of your audience members wrote in and was like, I have no idea what he’s talking about. So I’m trying to reach people where they’re at. I’d love to try to present this at a fourth grade level.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, and I probably am at a fourth grade level on this whole AI thing. So, yes, simplify it for me.
SPEAKER 05 :
So in World War II, U.S. government spending was about $4.7 trillion. And we’ve put $1 trillion into the development of AI. It’s a new way of computers thinking. We all remember the days when computers would just really struggle with if you misspelled something, if you had a comma in the wrong place, if you’re writing code and you had a semicolon in the wrong place. I still have that problem sometimes when I’m playing with code. that the whole thing just doesn’t work it was that that uh deterministic it was like every character mattered well they started they they kind of um rewrote how computers can process information they they they built these lattices it’s really complicated but it’s it’s you just imagine a net similar to how our brains work with the neurons all wrapped around each other and And just connected to each other. And so they started running, it’s basically a probability machine. The best way, the place AI has been showing up in our lives for the past decade, and we’ve maybe noticed it, is the autocomplete machine. When you’re on the internet and you start to search for something and then it starts – it wants to fill in. It’s guessing what the next word is. And so that’s what these chatbots are doing is they’re guessing what the next word is. So it’s not the same as human thinking. And so it’s – but that experience of ChatGPT is – it’s revolutionary in that like they’re going to – it’s going to – It’s going to replace a lot of jobs. It’s going to enhance a lot of these jobs with the technical service provided. When you call in and say, I have a question. You know what I hate in the world? I hate these phone trees. I had to call Chase Bank the other day, and I just get sick to my stomach before I even called. It actually wasn’t as bad as I thought. But the phone tree where it’s like you have to listen to the menu for six minutes to figure out – press seven if you’re this. And I always do this.
SPEAKER 10 :
Customer service.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah. I say human, human, human, agent. So that should – we should see that get better very quickly. But AI – so AI is not just doing language. It’s also doing – images and it’s we’ve been training it i don’t know if our listeners realize that every time we go on a website and we have to prove we’re not a robot um you know you have to with the captcha and you’re you’re like how many street signs do you see and you have to select them you always get that right no of course nobody’s 100 or anything of course sometimes i’m a robot No, it’s what we’ve been doing with that. That’s actually, they’re using our correct answers to show the machine what a correct answer is so it can learn. how to manage images. So we’re, we’ve been, so you’ll hear this vocabulary, like training the AI and what the data like have, they have to have this a lot of data, but they also have to be told reinforcement learning. They have to be told yes or no. Like, is that correct or not along the way? And, and so it’s, it’s a, I’ve done this deep dive on the technology and, but most interesting to me is the finances. Like what is, how real is this in terms of, dollars in america and where’s it all heading and it is it’s it’s the driver right now it’s it’s it’s our only hope that we could grow um our economy into into pain like into paying off these debts that that we’ve really i i’m not sure i connect that dot how how so how would that help our economy so much i don’t get that Yeah, well, there’s two ways to answer this. One, I do want to answer your direct question, talk about the economy. But I also love just explaining Wall Street to people or explaining how the stock market works. The stock market loves one thing. There’s only one correlation there. It’s corporate profits. And so to answer your question, it’s productivity. It’s how much of a thing can you get done in a period of time? And so for you, Kim, I’m going to show you how people are using AI to help them write emails. I can tell you my wife works at Ball Corp. She loves her job. If any listener gets the chance to go work for Ball Corp, you absolutely should. It’s one of Colorado’s greatest publicly traded companies. And so you can know about the company online. I tell my students that they can know more about the company than most of the employees do, but it’s a great company. It’s a great place to work. Well, her CEO, a guy named Dan, he says, look, if you’re writing an email, go run it by ChatGPT because your ideas use ChatGPT. And they give it nicknames and such because that’s such a terrible name, ChatGPT. I call it Gladys or Charlie. And I say when you have an idea and you bounce it off of a very – actually, I heard it very well described as a bad intern. But even a bad intern does a good job of listening to you and bouncing back. And so it’s good for brainstorming. The best use case is like help me formulate ideas. And it’s basically like being able to talk to, dare I say, Wikipedia. Or it’s the Internet’s knowledge base, but it’s conversational.
SPEAKER 10 :
Interesting.
SPEAKER 05 :
So productivity is the answer to your question. How does it affect things?
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 05 :
Workers can get more done.
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And welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is KimMonson.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMonson.com as well. Text line is 720-605-0647. And I wanted to mention the Center for American Values located in Pueblo, Colorado on the Riverwalk. They do several things. They honor our Medal of Honor recipients. And they’re focused on these values of honor, integrity, and patriotism through their On Values presentations, which is going to be a really great one in March. And so stay tuned on that. And then also their educational programs, K-12. Again, they’re nonpartisan, nonpolitical, but doing great work. More information, AmericanValuesCenter.org. I know we’re a little bit all over the board here, but Holly – is such a thoughtful listener. And she said, for the carbon sequestration, wouldn’t a simple response be that CO2 is necessary for not only plant life, but human life? Therefore, trying to bury CO2 is not only dangerous, but totally unnecessary. Yeah, I think she really nails it. I was talking in circles, I think. Kurt, what do you think?
SPEAKER 05 :
So we have a situation where, like, we have a symbiotic relationship with plants. We breathe out CO2. They breathe in CO2. We were just saying on the break, they use that carbon in the CO2. The C in CO2 is in the air, but they take it and they turn it into their fiber or the wood, basically, right? Right. Could we plant enough trees to take the CO2 out of the air, put them into the trunk of the tree? And we have a problem with it’s a little out of balance. Like your movie that I enjoyed.
SPEAKER 10 :
Climate Conversation. Watch it for free at climateconversation.com.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yes, that movie shows this chart of – I don’t know if it’s CO2 or if it was temperature – And at the end there, it’s spiking really high. This is why people are – now, assuming that those metrics, that the measurements are correct, and I think your experts on that show would question those, but you still showed a chart of a spiking – either CO2 or temperature. And so we think that a lot of humans think that it’s out of balance, that we’re breeding out too much because we’re also pulling up old plants and burning them in the form of fossil fuels and that’s putting CO2. There’s a lot of CO2 in the air. That’s not disputed, I don’t think, scientifically. There’s a lot of CO2 in the air. And the question is, is it too much? Actually, okay.
SPEAKER 10 :
If you watch the film, and that might be referring to the hockey stick, which that really, I need to go back and check that out. But compared to history, we’ve had times where there’s significantly more CO2 in the air. And the parts per million, and again, we talk about it in the film, we’re on the low side of that. And if you get to a point where you don’t have enough CO2 in the air, then we are moving towards colder and colder temperatures, and you can get to a point where plant life cannot live, and if plants can’t live… People can’t either. And colder and colder temperatures are more difficult for humans to live as well. And you can see all that in the movie. So there have been times where there’s been significantly more CO2 in the air throughout the history of the planet.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, but the history of the planet isn’t always good for human flourishing. Our planet’s been here so long, there are times when it was completely uninhabitable.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, but if we if you again, if you take a look and if Walt is listening, just text me with the and maybe Mark’s good. Well, Mark says CO2 is only point zero zero three percent of the air. And the parts per million, we’re on the low side of that. And people actually flourish and do better when it’s a little bit warmer. Plants do better. Plants, they use less water when it’s a little bit warmer as well. And that’s one of the things that Gregory Wrightstone said in the film.
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So I could tell you I’m not an expert on on climate science. I enjoyed your film and I think there’s a lot there’s it’s an interesting space for debate. I do think there’s a lot of people on the world. I think like if you think about like when my my parents were growing up. The population of the world was like 1 or 2 billion, and we’re at 8 billion humans now. So there’s questions like are there too many people? I can’t answer that. The carrying capacity of planet Earth, how many humans can we sustain? Are we doing damage to the environment? These are huge issues. What’s interesting, what I can speak to, what I just started to go down to prepare for this show and my presentations is this insatiable demand for energy. And electricity, which are a little bit different, right? Electricity is one form of energy, but we get energy from… fossil fuels as well and So we’re seeing these what I’m what I was I was learning yesterday was we’re looking at these these companies that are investing in AI and AI is extreme like you mentioned it when you got when you were talking to Trent about The you know like using the AI the image recognition of AI to use lasers to zap the weeds on our on our fields instead of using you know herbicides and that it’s going to be energy intensive. And so we had this, you know, the whole world has been moving towards, you know, creating more energy, whether that’s oil and gas, and it’s these alternatives also, whether they’re, you know, considered clean. Most of the alternatives are considered clean, and America’s only, you know, like 15% of our energy comes off of non-oil and gas.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay, so I have to ask you this, because we hear this all the time, clean energy, right? But what’s clean, again, we talked about it in the film, is what’s clean about strip mining of rare earth minerals in Africa by children that’s basically slave labor? What’s clean about these solar panels that we don’t know what we’re going to do with them when their life expectancy is gone? What about what’s clean about these fiberglass or well, I’m not sure it’s fiberglass, but but whatever these wind turbines are made out of and they’re being put into they’re not recyclable. They’re being buried. We I think we have to really talk about that word clean energy because people like the word clean energy, but it’s not really. And so I’m not sure that we want to give that I want to give that up anymore.
SPEAKER 05 :
Which is why I was trying to use the word alternative energy. And you’re right. It’s clean in the sense of like the way we manage our trash in the United States. We put it in – I live in the suburbs and we fill up our dumpster and it disappears and we don’t see it. Is that clean? My house is clean.
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Good point.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right? Good point. Someone else’s house is living too close to that landfill perhaps. But yes, so there’s this insatiable – so the demands of power are increasing significantly, and we are in an arms race in AI. We’re like between countries. If you look at – I mean the obvious one is America versus China. But what America does for our military, which I love this cultural thing that we do is we create – We play war games. We have an adversarial process inside so that we can always keep our edge. And if you give one of those fake armies against the other fake army, you give one of them AI, meaning that they can process information faster, they come out ahead. What if the AI gets hacked? Yeah, I mean, anything’s possible, right?
SPEAKER 10 :
Sure.
SPEAKER 05 :
But if the AI does not get hacked, then it’s a clear advantage. But this AI is just – it’s using a lot of computer power to do that complicated web algorithms that I was describing. It uses so much energy that there’s new demand for energy on planet Earth that’s going – we’re going to see – we’re seeing all these startups. We’re seeing a lot of – like Meta is the name for Facebook now. And they – they’re building these – they don’t care. They’re looking for the cheaper energy.
SPEAKER 10 :
So the alternative energy – You mean like what everyday people would like to heat their homes would be cheaper energy?
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah. I mean whatever’s – well, price per either BTU or kilowatt hour, those are complicated metrics on energy. But they – I think the average is $0.15. They’re trying to get it down to $0.05 or $0.01. And so whether it’s solar or hydrogen, there’s a lot of investment in hydrogen right now. We want to do nuclear more safely than Three Mile Island and Chernobyl have us thinking of. And all these things, there’s a ton of investment in America right now in this space. And it’s not federal investment. It’s investment you would like, Kim, because it’s not tax dollars. It wasn’t forced. It’s investors taking risks and saying if we – If we have a breakthrough in energy creation, then we’re going to have an economic advantage and, frankly, a military and strategic advantage against our adversaries in the world. So it’s really exciting to see that it’s a double-edged sword. You’ve got this demand on energy, which is going to. you know, it’s gonna, it challenges the grid, the grid is, I’m a little concerned about the fragility of our grid, you know? But it also is, like, we’re responding, because we have, you know, economics, we have a free market, we have people who can take risks and people who can be rewarded for innovations, We’re going to see this crazy amount of energy being created on. But they’re also doing, you know, the fossil fuels are also keeping, you know, keeping that demand up or keeping supply up.
SPEAKER 10 :
So here in Colorado, this radical activist legislature and governor are doing everything they can to kill the coal industry, to kill the natural gas industry, to kill the oil industry. But the left on the other – and, my gosh, you saw that with the Biden administration as well. And one of the first things that he did when he took office is he shut down the Keystone Pipeline. Immediately, 14,000 people lost their jobs, and you didn’t have anybody on the left concerned about those jobs whatsoever. And so all of a sudden now with this whole AI thing and you’re talking about they want affordable energy. But yet here in Colorado, with Excel and government being in bed with each other, our costs to heat our homes in the winter are going up. But the left doesn’t seem to be concerned at all about the, as you said, insatiable appetite for energy, for AI. And I find that hypocritical at best. What do you think?
SPEAKER 05 :
I wanted to talk about Donald Trump’s – his initiative that he announced in January about the – it’s called Stargate. And he said we’re going to put $500 billion into AI investments. And that’s going to include energy. And I don’t – I don’t know what policies are happening in Colorado that are going to hurt us. I just assume that you’re right and that they will.
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Trust me, I’m right. I’ve been watching the legislation.
SPEAKER 05 :
I mean, here’s the game, right? There’s $500 billion going to come into this investment, and a lot of that’s going to go into energy creation. Will that happen in Colorado is a question. And if we’re not business friendly, we can see it already happening in Texas. It’s blowing up in Texas because they’re very business friendly.
SPEAKER 10 :
You mean in a positive way? Their economies really?
SPEAKER 05 :
Dollars are coming in. Electricity is being created. I’m not telling you whether it’s alternative energy or it’s traditional. I’m telling you it’s both, actually, is what we’re seeing. And we need it here. We need to have all of it.
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We do. And Denver… is in decline. And it is because of terrible policies, not only by this legislature and governor, but Mike Johnston, the mayor. And it’s not the city that I have loved, but I think that we can reclaim it. And that’s why we Grind it out in this battle of ideas every day because ultimately the good ideas will win. Love having you in studio. It’s Professor Kurt Gerwitz. We’re going to go to break, and we do all this because of our sponsors. If you’ve been injured, be sure to reach out to John Bozen and Bozen Law.
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It is Friday. Welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Check out our website. That’s Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. Sign up for a weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at Kim Monson dot com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We’re an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something’s a good idea. You shouldn’t have to force people to do it. And we’re having all kinds of great conversations. This carbon sequestration, as Jenny said here, she said, CO2 is life gas. Remember, people who promote this agenda of CO2 is bad, they’re against life. That ultimately is true. And the question of can the earth support all these people through creativity and innovation, I think so. And we value human life. And so these people that say that that there’s too many people, I’m like, well, why don’t you get off the planet first?
SPEAKER 05 :
So there’s a book out there that says it’s called I think it’s called One Billion Americans. And it looks at China and it looks at India and says, well, they they each of those countries has a billion people. We should, too. We’re about a third of the way there.
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Although here in America, we’ve really promoted abortion, so not having new Americans. But we’ll do that for another discussion. Professor Kurt Gerwitz is in studio. On the line with us is Karen Levine, and you know her for everything residential real estate. You want her on your side of the table. And she has just returned from the National Conference. Karen Levine, welcome.
SPEAKER 06 :
Good morning, Kim. And it was actually international. I was at the RE-MAX LLC annual event known as R4. And there are 147,000 members or agents in the network for RE-MAX.
SPEAKER 07 :
So we sell real estate all over the world.
SPEAKER 10 :
That is unbelievable. So what’s the takeaway? So you were in Vegas, and was it fun? I imagine was the town buzzing? What was going on?
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, it’s always a lot of high energy. It’s a great time to network with agents all over the world, and we had some amazing keynote speakers, obviously, there to educate us, motivate us, and empower us to be better agents. And I think… There were lots of great takeaways. There was lots of fun. I think what hit me is through much of the public policy throughout the recent years, we have made homeownership more complicated or less affordable for first time homebuyers. So the first time homebuyer is much older than they were a decade ago because it’s taking longer time to save up for down payment. for able to get into the marketplace because values have risen and real estate is a great investment because values rise over time. So that’s a good thing. But when we kept interest rates down artificially low, that caused more appreciation than we had seen in the marketplace in quite some time. I think what I learned is there’s a lot of opportunity out there. There are many ways that I can help first-time homebuyers as well as sellers. And our sellers are older because we’re an aging population and we’re staying in our homes longer. So I am excited to help those who have a need to buy real estate, invest in real estate, or are ready to make a move, whether that’s a move down or a move up or a move across the country or the world.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, and I think that’s – you’ve been through all these different markets here in Colorado, and I know that you are helping people get into homes, first-time homebuyers. And I know that – I mean, I find it amazing, 147,000 agents throughout the world with RE-MAX. It’s pretty remarkable, and I appreciate all that you’re doing on all of this, Karen Levine.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, thank you very much, and you know I have a passion – for helping people, serving them well in their real estate needs. And coming back from Vegas, I’m always pumped up, ready to get back to work.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, sounds great. How can people reach you, Karen Levine?
SPEAKER 06 :
They can reach me, 303-877-7516.
SPEAKER 10 :
And that’s for a new build or selling a home, buying a home, 303-877-7516. Karen Levine, thank you so much. You’re welcome. Have a great day. you do as well so okay kurt gerwitz um this came in from one of our listeners uh and and i think i asked this question but we’re we had been talking about ai it uses a tremendous amount of energy just a tremendous amount but yet the the enviros have said we everyday people need to conserve energy but yet they seem to like ai i i just i’m struggling with matching that up
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, I don’t think that you could say they like AI. I don’t think AI is a – it’s not a political issue.
SPEAKER 09 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 05 :
And I hope we can keep it from being one. I know we try to politicize everything. But it is a national security issue. That’s how it involves – that’s why Trump’s involved. Got it. Okay. It is an economic issue, and economics touches politics. Okay. But yeah, I don’t think – it is sort of like a – it’s forward-looking. This is what the stock market does is when I’m teaching my students on how to – what’s the intrinsic value of something, meaning like what is that thing worth? What is the dollar value of that thing? And the answer is it’s a function of its future cash flows. And so AI is going to increase cash flows by making humans more productive. And that’s going to cost – it’s costing more energy than we expected. We do want – what Trump is doing correct with both crypto and AI. is that he’s saying America needs to be – needs to play in the space of these new technologies. Can you imagine a president in the past saying – fighting against like, oh, cars are displacing horses. We should think about your – just think about how much you loved your horse. Like we can’t have cars. The Eisenhower – The interstate system in the United States is one of the… Actually, it’s not technically one of the modern wonders of the world, but I think it should be. I really do. And this is like that. We’re in this time now. We’re in a gold rush. We’re in a bubble. And we’re in an arms race. We’re in all three of those with AI right now. And it’s very interesting, very exciting. There’s a ton, a ton of money going into this. And we have to… Putin… Vladimir Putin, everybody’s favorite dictator, said that whoever gets to this heightened level of AI first will dominate planet Earth. And if you want freedom to win, if you want the American values and ideals to win the battle of ideas across planet Earth, then America needs to win the AI game.
SPEAKER 10 :
Fascinating. 20 seconds. I know you’re not giving investment advice, but if somebody was interested in researching some of these companies, what would you recommend?
SPEAKER 05 :
The way I did the research – and I tried this a year ago with you, and it didn’t go as well as it did just now. The pace of innovation on this is moving so quickly. I would say go to the chatbots, the AI chatbots, and start a conversation with them. And you’re going to be amazed. They miss some things, but they’re getting better at references. They’ll point you to a website where you can go. But just start with whatever question you have and have a conversation with the robot. And I hate to say that I’m encouraging that, but, yes, that is the fastest and best way to do that. So I’d ask, which robot should I invest in? I mean, I won’t say that, but the winning robot right now is ChatGPT.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay. Fun having you here. Thank you. And our quote for the end of the show is from Plattus. He said, Courage is what preserves our liberty, safety, life, and our homes and parents, our country and children. Courage comprises all things.
SPEAKER 12 :
I will fight for the right to live in freedom.
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