In this episode, Mike Gallagher and Mark Davis engage in a riveting discussion on the complexities of political protests and immigration policies. They dive deep into the heart of the matter, inspecting the absence of racial diversity among anti-Trump protesters and questioning the constitutional entitlements immigrants hold. Navigate through their compelling dialogue on the evolving socio-political landscape, with an emphasis on the judiciary’s role in balancing rights and legislative procedures.
00:05:27 Debate on Due Process for Illegal Immigrants
SPEAKER 02 :
mike gallagher every day mike visits with mark davis morning host on 6 60 a.m the answer in dallas here’s today’s eminem experience rome and and venice venice is one of the world’s most remarkable cities and florence and all that they got them a fine prime minister in italy these days too you got that right let me you see that little clip of her said they said electing a conservative would be terrible but we are safer our economy is doing great Well, you know what I love about the conservative wave that’s happening all over the world? The world is getting better. And young people are more and more conservative than ever. In fact, in reading about the Pope earlier this morning, I was reading about the fact that young priests are more and more conservative than ever. Now, let that sink in. It’s like the world is healing. Young people are more and more conservative than ever. College campuses, young people under 18 are more conservative than ever. And that gives me a whole lot of hope. And maybe it’s with that spirit. Maybe it’s the Easter spirit of the miracle, the resurrection. I mentioned being in New York. Saturday morning, I’m strolling down Madison Avenue, and here comes a sea of people. Oh, my.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, boy, you sent me some video of that. That was not good.
SPEAKER 02 :
Well, is it not good? Let me tell you why.
SPEAKER 03 :
Oh, no, their free speech rights are fine.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 03 :
They don’t need to protest. Oh, sure.
SPEAKER 02 :
And I watched them. I was just riveted by it for some reason. Now, first of all, let me give you a couple of observations about the anti-Trump protests that took place all over the country. There were like 50 cities, right? 51, 50, 50, whatever the number was. I watched these people pretty closely. First of all, a striking absence of people of color, Mark. It’s the strangest thing, because it’s a ton of people. Now, I’m not going to minimize this. I’m telling you, I’m standing at 47th and Madison Avenue, looking up Madison Avenue, as far as the eye could see. So if this was us, I kept thinking, if the unthinkable happened and Kamala Harris got elected president and thousands and thousands and thousands of us marched all over the country, we’d be like, wow, this is great. Isn’t this fantastic? So that’s how they feel. That’s okay. They didn’t burn any buildings. Nobody got hurt. The police were calm. Everybody was calm. But I was really interested in the demographic makeup of these protesters.
SPEAKER 03 :
mark they’re all boomers they’re all they’re all boomers they’re white boomers well you know why it is the bernie aoc wing well it’s about the oligarchy we got the oligarchy yeah get in the delorean yeah so so that that is it’s that kind of weird egghead college professorial liberalism that that is dying on the vine and uh
SPEAKER 02 :
They’re old hippies. They’re just old hippies from the 60s who think they got their moment again. They think they’re back at Woodstock. This is their Woodstock, and it just is so interesting. But what do you attribute the almost zero presence of black or brown people?
SPEAKER 03 :
What is that about? Because the appeal of the Bernie slash AOC old college professorial, and I don’t want to push back against the hippie thing. Hippies were cooler than these people. These are old leftist urban cranks. That’s true. Which is a great band name. You know, I think that they’re all about this haughty, condescending thing that a lot of people of color just don’t want any part of. Yeah. A lot of blacks and Hispanics are looking at Trump and, I mean, I’d agree with everyone. They’re saying, you know what? The notion of more American jobs, the notion of borders. We’re kind of on board, more on board than some of these Upper West Side malcontents.
SPEAKER 02 :
I think you’re right. And then the final thing we’ve got to talk about, I want to get this off my chest. I watched Senator John Kennedy, who’s like the Will Rogers of the Senate and folksy and charming. He’s always got a one-liner. And there he is bagging on Trump and bagging on this.
SPEAKER 03 :
Was this on Meet the Press with Kristen Welker?
SPEAKER 02 :
Yes, and he’s like, the president is deporting. At one point, this Chris Van Hollen slipped, and he actually tried, he almost called Abrego Garcia an American. He started, he said, it’s unthinkable that an American, I mean, somebody swept up an American. Because this is where my…
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SPEAKER 02 :
Here’s what this all boils down to. This is real simple. And why John Kennedy is bagging on Trump all of a sudden.
SPEAKER 03 :
What was his specific point? Because he started out with a Kristen Welker segment.
SPEAKER 02 :
Due process. Due process. Now, but here’s the problem, Mark. Let me ask you. You’re one of the smartest people I know. Let’s do. Does an illegal have the constitutional right of due process?
SPEAKER 03 :
Not the same that you and I have. However, and this is the thing where, and this is kind of a Mike Gallagher moment, maybe we’ll still be the same, going away, we can do it some more tomorrow, because we’re getting our brains beaten in, and there are enough squishy voters where they’re like, oh, that sounds reasonable. Should there be a moment at which an immigration judge takes even 30 seconds, looks at a piece of paper, goes, yep, okay, he can go,
SPEAKER 02 :
They did that with him.
SPEAKER 03 :
In a couple of levels and a lot of the reasons for, I think it was like the tats and the bulls.
SPEAKER 02 :
But they did that with this guy. This guy’s a gang member, Mark.
SPEAKER 03 :
They stopped the guy. That’s my belief as well.
SPEAKER 02 :
I know it is. And the courts and the cops and everybody determined this. But the due process thing intrigues me. You tell me. You qualified it. I was very interested in how you responded to me. You show me in the Constitution where an illegal immigrant is entitled to due process. Where is that in the Constitution?
SPEAKER 03 :
It’s more of a matter of legislation. It’s more of a matter of the procedures that exist that if we are going to deport people, there’s usually a turnstile that you walk through.
SPEAKER 02 :
But my benchmark, my North Star is the Constitution. No, exactly. It’s like it was with abortion. There’s no right to an abortion in the Constitution. There’s no right to due process. Oh, I get you. I get you.
SPEAKER 03 :
There’s no constitutional crisis, no constitutional law.
SPEAKER 02 :
Oh, exactly.
SPEAKER 03 :
It seems to have been a skirting of existing procedure, which if they’ve got even a molecule of a point, I offered an idea. Let me offer it to you. Hey, President Bukele loves Trump. You want to do us a solid here? Let the dude out of the prison on the streets of El Salvador. That really bothers me.
SPEAKER 02 :
I heard you say that. I heard you say that. What’s the matter with that?
SPEAKER 03 :
We’re not bringing him back.
SPEAKER 02 :
It ain’t our problem. He’s an El Salvadoran. He’s a national. He’s their problem. And why would we tell the El Salvador? That’s like El Salvador telling President Trump what he should do with Carmelo Anthony.
SPEAKER 03 :
We’re not going to tell him. We’re going to suggest that maybe.
SPEAKER 02 :
Why?
SPEAKER 03 :
Because it would get everybody to shut up and we could get on with our lives. But we’ve got nothing to do. There are enough stupid voters, there are enough stupid low-information voters that day after day, week after week, of this guy being the most famous Salvadoran in history, not helpful. I’ve got midterms to think about.
SPEAKER 02 :
It seems very arrogant, I think, of us to tell the El Salvador president what he should or shouldn’t do. Well, forget what to suggest. Who the hell are you to tell the El Salvador president what he should or shouldn’t do with one of his own people?
SPEAKER 03 :
Because we’re getting our brains beaten in. That’s not his problem. That’s not his problem. It’s my problem as somebody that doesn’t want to have more. You know it. There are a bunch of idiot voters out there looking. This guy shouldn’t be in prison. Well, fine. Solve the problem. Get on so that we can get on. There’s too much oxygen being taken up. I mean, this is one of those areas where I know exactly what you mean. Yeah. I’m just fascinated by your position on this. I’m trying to stop the problem because we’re getting our brains beaten in. What does that mean? I don’t know. I don’t think we are. I think you’re overstating that. No, because stipulate real quick. We’re incredibly late. Are there millions of stupid people in America? Yes. Yes. Are they seeing day after day after day after day after day after day of this incessant coverage of this guy shouldn’t be in prison? But they’re wrong. But they’re wrong. I know that and you know that.
SPEAKER 02 :
So you want to suggest respectfully to the El Salvadoran president to do something that we have nothing to do with because of the stupid people in America?
SPEAKER 03 :
Yes, because it will shut everybody up. It will shut everybody up. In fact, in retrospect, if we had just deported him, not to the prison, if we just sent him back to El Salvador and dumped him on the streets of San Salvador, would that have been okay? Yes, of course it would. So all I’m suggesting is that we make it like as if we had done that. That’s all.
SPEAKER 02 :
All right. Well, we’ll have to agree to disagree. Happy Monday. It’s good to be back to work. More on Tuesday. More on Tuesday. I love you, man. I love you, too. For full shows live and on demand, it’s the Salem News Channel.
