Join John Rush and Spencer Morrison on a deep dive into the realm of American economic policy in their latest episode of Rush to Reason. As Spencer Morrison sheds light on his book ‘Reshore’, listeners are invited to understand the socio-economic factors that have led to the decline of American manufacturing and the potential for a revival through strategic tariff implementation. They tackle the controversial viewpoints on trade deficits, bringing to the forefront the lesser-discussed financial maneuvers of Wall Street that impact national economic strategies. The episode pushes boundaries by questioning the so-called benefits of low-cost imports and presenting
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All right, we are back. Hour number three, Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Spencer Morrison joining me now, author of Reshore, How Tariffs Will Bring Our Jobs Home and Revive the American Dream. Spencer, welcome.
SPEAKER 16 :
Thanks for having me on the program, Rush.
SPEAKER 11 :
I appreciate it very much. All right. You’re in good company. I’m like you. I tend to, you know, I’ve tried to even tell people, you know, turn off the news. Don’t look at social media. Go about your life. And the reality is you probably won’t know a lot of difference in what your daily life is like. But everybody out there on the media end of things, Spencer, is going to tell you that we’ve now entered the end of the world.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, yeah, that’s exactly correct. And you know what? I’ll tell you what. In some sense, we’re nearing the end of the economic world if we don’t change policy on tariffs.
SPEAKER 11 :
You are correct.
SPEAKER 16 :
Of what President Trump is doing.
SPEAKER 11 :
time we have to turn it around
SPEAKER 16 :
We’ve got to turn it around. You know, America’s run a trade deficit every year since 1974. And the total value, if you add all that up and adjust it for inflation, is $25 trillion. That’s $25 trillion that was spent building up China, building up their industries, rather than being invested here in America.
SPEAKER 11 :
Okay, what do you tell those people that would say, well, you know, Spencer, at the end of the day, you know, we’re the biggest customer in the world. We’re going to have some deficits. Who cares? Deficits aren’t all that bad. What’s all the fuss about?
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, I think deficits are terrible when they’re long-standing chronic deficits, and they’re a deficit with everyone. You know, there’s this old trope. They say, well, I have a deficit with my grocery store. It’s not a bad thing. If they get money, I get groceries. Sure, but you don’t run a deficit with your grocer and with your barber and with your auto mechanic while you don’t have a job. You have to have production. You have to have income. You have to have money coming in in order to spend it, and we’re not doing that right now. A trade deficit means literally… There’s a deficit in production. So how are we purchasing those goods? We’re selling assets like real estate and ownership in America’s stock market and debt. We’re selling all this government debt. That’s how we’re getting the goods.
SPEAKER 11 :
Right. And I think it’s very – not publicized enough, but it’s pretty well known that I come from the car end of things. That’s what I’ve done the majority of my life and sitting in this chair just by – By sheer chance, Spencer, because I’m a car guy at heart and ran businesses my whole life and so on. And the reality is I can tell you from the car end of things that we manufactured a lot more things at one time in this country than we currently do today because we found it, quote unquote, cheaper to build cars elsewhere. So a lot of those jobs that used to be in places like Detroit and Dearborn and and other places around the country are no longer there, and it’s a wasteland now because of it. And the reality is once it was determined that we could do things cheaper someplace else and farm those things off, we did.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, you’re totally right, John. And you’ve got to wonder, cheaper how? The quality of goods is certainly cheaper. You’ve got to buy the same product two or three times now compared to even 40 years ago. You know, the goods are cheaply made, so I think we have to, you know, make this distinction between, you know, the price of something can be low, but if the quality is also low, we’re not actually getting a deal here. And I think that’s exactly what’s happened to the American consumer. The wool’s been pulled over everybody’s eyes.
SPEAKER 11 :
The other thing that’s being, I think, pulled over their eyes right now currently that I talk about continually, Spencer, is even the products that we’re going to continue to buy. Say we’re going to continue to import certain things from other countries. And the misconception, and maybe I’m wrong in this, but the way I see it painted, and I don’t watch a lot of news, so maybe you’re more familiar with this than I am, but I think the fear that a lot of Americans have is, oh, that item, that pair of tennis shoes that I’m used to spending – X amount of money on, all of a sudden that’s now going to double because of tariffs. Well, people forget because they’re not being informed that the tariff is on the cost of the good, not the retail price of the good, correct?
SPEAKER 16 :
You’re entirely correct, John. A lot of people don’t understand that. And it’s not even just on that. So you have to remember that when these tariffs, for example, they’re 145% on goods from China, that’s the price that the importer pays to China to purchase the goods. And that importer is usually based in Singapore or Hong Kong or wherever it may be. So if they pay, say, for example, you have $60 sneakers. They’re paying the Chinese $5 to make the sneakers. Then they’re marking it up in their warehouse in Hong Kong. They’re selling it to the American wholesaler for $20. And then it’s on the shelf for $60. So that 145% tariff isn’t going to make those shoes $130. You’re going to get a relatively small amount. Yeah. Exactly. It’s a small fraction of what it is. It’s not a sales tax. This is a targeted surgical tariff.
SPEAKER 11 :
So, and I think I know the answer to this, but then why are the American public continually being lied to or misled, maybe not out-lied to, in some cases it is, but why are they being misled down this path that those tennis shoes are now going to go from 60 to 120?
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Well, you’ve got to follow the money. You’ve always got to follow the money. So earlier I was talking about how we pay for this trade deficit. We pay for it by selling off assets, so real estate and stocks. So basically we’ve taken this $25 trillion, we’ve got the foreign goods, and now this money has to be balanced out somehow. So according to the balance of payments… And all of this money re-enters the country. It’s flooded into the stock market. So there’s a ton of money to be made in offshoring, because not only are they getting the so-called cheaper goods, but this money is being flushed back into the stock market, raising the price of raising the price of equities. So it’s a double whammy on Wall Street. They’re getting profits on the so-called cheaper goods. They’re also getting profits because their stocks are being inflated by foreign buyers. So there’s a lot of money to be made in selling out the country.
SPEAKER 11 :
That’s why Wall Street doesn’t like them.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, it’s $25 trillion in their bank account.
SPEAKER 11 :
Can you blame them? No, thank you. I mean, you’re talking about some of the things that I talk about here continually, and it’s the reason why, you know, right now, currently, Wall Street doesn’t like what’s going on. A, Wall Street doesn’t like change. B, they don’t like being shortchanged.
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No, they’ve made an astronomical amount of money on offshoring, and the gravy train, you know, if President Trump is successful in getting America to reindustrialize, the gravy train is over for them, because they’re going to have to pay living wages to to American workers rather than paying what amounts to slave wages to people in China or Vietnam. And then on top of that, they’re going to lose the gravy train of this $25 trillion that’s been funneled into the stock market. That’s going to dry up as well.
SPEAKER 11 :
How long do you feel like some of these companies that, by the way, have already committed to building plants and doing things here in the U.S., which I keep reminding people of, that these particular policies and what happens when these companies make those types of investments is these aren’t the next two- to three-year or even five-year investments. These are 20-plus-year investments when it’s all said and done. How long do you think it’ll take some of these companies to actually follow through with that?
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Well, I think it really depends on the policy. If the tariffs are high and they’re stable and companies can bank on them in the future, then you’re going to see quite a lot of reshoring. And I think it’s going to happen a lot faster than people think. I mean, you look back at World War II, for example. America doubled its industrial output in the space of two years. So it’s possible to move really fast, but we have to have the national will to do it.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, and I’ve talked about this. I want to get your opinion on this. I think on top of what you just said, we have to have, yes, a national will. And I’m not a big one on the Fed stepping on states any way, shape, or form. I’m a big states’ rights guy. Although, when you talk about some of these manufacturing things that we want to get back into the country, get up and running, You have to figure out a way, Spencer, to get cities and counties to be able to fast track some of this development. Because I know here in Colorado, if you want to put a factory in, you and I decided tomorrow we’re going to build XYZ factory. Depending upon where we find that and all of the other hoops you and I have to jump through, we’re not building that plant for five years.
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Especially with all of the onerous environmental regulations. A big part of this is the fact that there’s a conflict of laws between local municipalities and between the states and between the feds and everybody stepping on each other’s toes. So it’s a huge problem. I mean, again, tariffs is about creating a market for American-made products because right now the market in a lot of cases doesn’t exist.
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That’s right.
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It’s been offshore to China.
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Correct.
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But it’s more than that. I mean, there has to be internal reform that goes along with this. Tariffs are not a one-size-fits-all solution. On top of that, we have to get the cost of power under control. We have to simplify regulations so we can actually build the factories and do the heavy industry here. So all of these things need to work in synergy. So it’s a big, big project.
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Yeah, and thank you. I agree with you saying that because there’s a lot of folks, I think, even that could be for the tariff end of things, which I am, and you can tell by talking to me, but yet on the other side forget that, okay, yeah, that’s great, but if we’re going to encourage development and things along those lines and get things ramped back up in the country, we’ve got to figure out a way to fast-track some of these things because you and I building a plant in a place like Colorado, for example, and not even being able to stick a shovel in the ground for three to five years, that’s ridiculous. That’s got to change.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, it’s beyond ridiculous. The reality is that how are we supposed to compete with China when they can slap up a coal plant every week?
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Tomorrow.
SPEAKER 16 :
They can build a new coal plant.
SPEAKER 11 :
Exactly. Yeah, and we can’t.
SPEAKER 16 :
Every week they’re building a new coal plant.
SPEAKER 11 :
That’s right.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, they don’t even want us to build. They don’t even want us to burn coal.
SPEAKER 11 :
No, but they can put one up every week. No, you’re exactly right. Okay, where do folks get the books? Reshore How Terrorists Will Bring Our Jobs Home and Revive the American Dream.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, you can get the book on Amazon.com. It’s also available directly from the publisher at calamopress.com. And then my content, you can always find me on X at Real SP Morrison.
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Thank you, Spencer. I appreciate it very much. Thanks a lot, my friend. You bet. Have a great night. Spencer Morrison, again, reshore how terrorists will bring our jobs home and revive the American dream. And with that, we’ve got a very special interview, or I should say some informative things from Golden Eagle Financial. Let me just say it that way.
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Al Smith from Golden Eagle Financial and the show you love, Retirement Unpacked, is here with me. How are you today, Al? I’m doing great. How are you, TJ? I’m doing great as well. I have a couple questions for you. As a financial advisor, do you also do taxes?
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No, I don’t prepare my clients’ taxes. I do, however, spend a lot of time talking to them about taxes. To use a sports analogy, tax preparation is like doing a recap of the game. What I do is more like creating a game plan and then following up over time to see how it’s working.
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And how much are taxes a part of that game plan that you create?
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What about people who already have really healthy balances in 401ks, IRAs? Won’t they be facing significant taxes as they draw income from those accounts?
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Is that kind of strategy really only for the wealthy?
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All right, I’ve got a couple minutes here before we go to the bottom of the hour break. And I’m going to go back to something I talked about earlier in regards to a lot of the infighting that’s happening inside of the Colorado GOP. And in particular, a post that’s been put out by a gentleman by the name of Mark Hampton. I don’t know Mark at all. Frankly, I don’t care to. I think he’s a bully. And I don’t associate very well with bullies on any level. Period. Just because I don’t like that approach. And I’m sorry. Yes, I get I’m a talk show host. I can say all sorts of things here. Some people might think, well, geez, John, you’re just you’re a bully on the radio. Well, not really. I give all sorts of people ample time. They can call. They can talk. They can text and so on. Now, I will say this. I’ve only ever. blocked on the text line a handful of people and frankly only because when you get to be a total moron and you will not have any kind of reason at all in what you’re basically trying to tell me and you’re not listening to any reason yeah i’m done i’m not going to fight with idiots Sorry, I just won’t. I’ve got better things to do. My time is too valuable for me to text back and forth with idiots. And I’ve only ever banned a couple of different individuals from being on this particular program or any of my programs, for that matter, period. And that’s a pretty good stretch to be here as long as I’ve been doing this over all of these years and only have a couple of different callers that I will not allow on air to talk. That’s actually a pretty good track record on my part, I think. So my point is I’ll pretty much talk to anybody and let somebody have their 10 minutes of stardom, if you would, and give me their opinion on things and so on. But in the case of Mark, I don’t think that he’s got – I’m sorry to say this. He just doesn’t have any reasoning in his pea brain. I won’t read the entire thing that he wrote, but he basically goes into a diatribe about Dave Williams and how he was great for the GOP here in Colorado and how much money he actually saved the GOP. And because of the way that he structured his own payments as chair, running them through Fox Group, LTD, how much money that actually saved the party. And yes, there is some savings when… you as an employer are paying somebody as a contractor, you know, a 1099 type basis, if you would, versus actually writing them a payroll check. Yes, there’s some savings, and I’m fully aware of that. Although the diatribe that Mark gets into on assuming that Dave did that only to help out the GOP, I think that’s a stretch, and let me explain. So anytime somebody is a 1099 contractor, or have their own business, if you would, as in the case of Dave. It’s still a contractor, but he’s working on behalf of the party to do X, Y, Z and getting paid to do so, and he ran it through a company rather than getting a payroll check, which a lot of you get a W-2 at the end of the year. You’re getting a payroll check. That company is taking out taxes, paying the government, and so on, all on your behalf. By the way, it’s one of the biggest complaints I’ve always had as an employer is why am I the tax collector? It chaps my hide. That part I absolutely despise. The government has quasi made me the tax collector for free, and it’s not right. That’s a whole other conversation probably for another day that just grinds on me that very few people ever talk about, frankly, because most people in media have never written a payroll check. So they have no idea what I just said. But the reality is that’s how it works. So you can, in this particular case, Dave decided that he’s going to be his own company, and he’s going to take his $200,000 that you get as chair. I’m going to go ahead and run that through my company instead of actually being paid with a payroll check, which I will say straight up, that’s wise. I don’t think Dave did that. to save the party money, by the way. Sorry, Mark, but he didn’t do that to save the party money. Dave was self-serving in that manner. And frankly, I don’t blame Dave. I’m not knocking Dave because let me explain. When you’re your own company and you’re being paid, in this case, by the Colorado GOP, because you’re your own company, you have the ability tax-wise to do things with that company that enable you to have expenses and deductions and things that you wouldn’t get by just getting a W-2. For example, if Dave wanted to say that, you know, I need a vehicle to do what I’m doing for the state party and others as a part of my, you know, Fox Group LTD, I need a vehicle to be able to drive around. Well, he can go buy said vehicle and depreciate that off and have an expense for said vehicle right inside of that particular company. Those of you that have companies know exactly what I’m talking about. And most likely, if Dave was smart, he did that. And again, I’m not judging him. That would be the way to do it. Where I’m at with this is Mark’s explanation. This is where it gets funny. While accurate, it’s misleading. In other words, he’s he’s accurate in talking about how it does save the party money by writing a check to a company, not an individual, because there’s no matching FICA tax and unemployment and other things that you would actually have in all of that. You’re not writing a check as an employer for those, quote unquote, benefits. benefits and things that happen inside of a normal employee-employer relationship. When you just hire a company to work for you, you avoid all of that. So I get the fact that there’s some savings there, and he’s correct in that, although when he gets into the taxable side of what Dave owed and what Dave sacrificed to do this, he’s completely wrong. Because, frankly, unless he’s seen Dave’s tax return, he has no idea what Dave did. And I venture to guess he hasn’t seen Dave’s tax return. So Mark has no idea what Dave is doing in regards to the income coming into Fox Group, how he’s putting deductions into Fox Group, how those things are being handled. And keep in mind, too, that I’ve seen this on the FEC report. Dave also reimbursed himself for mileage and a lot of other things that he did, which that’s where it gets a little bit dicey, because if Dave, for example, was in fact – using his own vehicle and depreciating that vehicle inside of Fox Group, but yet getting mileage reimbursement for that, that’s technically not allowed. You’re not supposed to be able to do that. Now, Dave could charge an additional fee if he wanted to, but to have a mileage reimbursement, yeah, that’s not kosher. You technically can’t do it that way. And I’m not a CPA, I’m not an accountant, but I just know that those are things that you can’t do, but he did. He did. So again, Mark, if you’re listening or anybody wants to send this off to Mark and even have him listen to this, while you’re technically correct in some of these things that you explained, you’re incorrect in a lot of the ways you explained them. And you assume a lot of things that frankly are probably not true. Because the way you stated how much taxes Dave paid in relation to the way that he structured his own pay inside the party are probably very wrong. In fact, I would bet they’re wrong. In fact, I know they’re wrong. Now, he goes into talking about how that all of us that have an IQ of 70 or less would have no idea how all of this works. So, of course, we’re just going to run with this narrative that Dave committed fraud, which, by the way, I’ve never accused Dave of committing fraud at all inside of the party. I’ve said that I think he’s very crooked. I think he’s very crooked in the way that he does his dealings and so on. I wouldn’t trust him as far as I can throw him. But I’ve never I’ve never accused Dave of committing fraud. And by the way, I don’t think anybody has. What’s happening inside of the party now is we want an audit of what’s gone on. Where has all the money gone and for what? Let’s have an accounting of. Let’s have a forensic audit so we know exactly where these things are at. And let’s start out that way moving forward. And by the way, I’m all for that. In fact, had Dave been smart back when he took things over from KBB, Christy Burton Brown, and he was claiming how messed up everything was, financially speaking, and Tom Bjorken, if you’re listening as well, all of you that claim that everything was so messed up under KBB, why didn’t you do your own audit? And here’s what they’re going to say. We didn’t have any money to do it. That’s BS. Yes, they did. They most certainly did. You can look at the FEC reports and determine that, yes, they did, in fact, have money. It’s a matter of what they chose to spend that money on. That’s what it boils down to. And they chose to spend it on different things than that. Now, where I’m accusatory of the past administration and how they ran things is, and by the way, it’s the same thing that they accused KBB of, and that is paying a lot of their cronies, you know, the inside cronyism that went on on who we paid who to do what is outlandish. You can look at the FEC report and prove that. Eric Grossman. who is now running a doge-type site for Colorado, was the, was, what’s that, Charlie? Thank you, a fake doge site, because it’s not real. But they’re accepting donations and so on. They’re running it much like you would a nonprofit or a PAC, and I haven’t looked into all of that yet. Some others are, so I may just let them finish their work, and I’ll just wait and see what the findings are. But Eric Grossman, who, by the way, is from the southern part of the state, who, frankly, most people have never heard of, other than probably from me talking about him on air, he was the party planner for the party when it came to their events. He was the special event planner that I did tons of research on and could never figure out what type of party he ever planned prior to coming on board with the Colorado GOP. So in other words, his special event company that he owned had never planned a special event for anybody that I could determine prior to coming on board with the Colorado GOP. So anybody that’s in that realm, I’d love for you to text me and tell me what Eric did prior to the Colorado GOP besides being a mayor and being involved in some politics and so on. Would somebody please tell me what Eric did as far as party planning goes, event planning goes prior to coming on board with the Colorado GOP and now running a Doge site for Colorado? I also would like to know what kind of experience does a guy like Eric Grossman have when it comes to analyzing state expenditures and where there’s waste? Because frankly, the party up until now… didn’t do anything along those lines when it came to forensic audits and so on. Tom, you as the previous treasurer, and you’re claiming that this particular administration now that’s in there is doing some of these audits and they don’t need to because of this, that, and the other, and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Well, then, Tom, why didn’t you fix some of those things prior to this administration taking over? If you were such a great accounting wizard, why didn’t you fix them? Why didn’t you get the answers needed prior to the next group of individuals taking over? And where I’m going with this, folks, is there’s always these accusations flying both sides of the aisle. I get it. You know, both sides of the of the argument, I guess I could say, because this is all on the same side of the aisle. But we’re arguing and a lot of us were arguing over the way things were run up to this point. And by the way, rightfully so, because they weren’t run correctly before. I don’t care what you say. Some of you that have texted me, it’s funny. Some of you that texted me on how great Dave was doing and the lawsuit and all of those things, you’ve gone deathly quiet since Dave didn’t win his lawsuit. Since it’s been determined that there really wasn’t any reason for Dave to go out and hire and spend $100,000 on attorneys. It’s interesting that none of you that have been texting me in the past as to how great Dave was have said a word since. Where are all of you? Why have you stopped texting? Why have you stopped going to bat for your boy Dave? Are you finally turning the corner, realizing what a scoundrel he actually was, or what? But yet there’s still guys like Mark Hampton out there running around that’s going to basically, you know, King Dave does nothing wrong. You know, let’s bow and eat a Dave. You know, the ultimate hero of the Colorado GOP, which, by the way, is laughable. I’ve talked about all the things over the past two years that didn’t happen in the party, the things that Dave did do, the amount of isolating that he did, the amount of counterattacks he did against even candidates that were running for office here in the state. And I can go down the list. I won’t. I’ve talked about him, you know, literally. And by the way, I don’t know what his IQ is, but he acts like he’s got an IQ of 70. And just the name-calling that’s going on from that side of the aisle to the current folk that are now running the party, I just find it ironic that you all that are doing the name-calling… Are the same ones that wanted to throw everybody else under the bus. Everybody’s a rhino. Nobody that agrees with you is a rhino. On and on we go. You’re turning out to be exactly what Andy and I have said now for over two years. You’re just a bunch of loons. Your credibility is continually waning. You’ve lost every little bit of it that you maybe once had. And those of you that are listening to me that are in that group, you better quit while you’re ahead or you’re going to go down in history as just a bunch of morons. Stop. You’re not helping yourself. You’re not helping your cause. You’re not helping what you consider to be grassroots. And on and on I go. I mean, the reality is, just stop. You’re not helping yourself. You’re hurting yourself with every little bit of press that you put out, like what you did with this particular post from Mr. Hampton. You’re not helping your cause. You’re making it worse. So I would encourage all of you that are on that side of the aisle to, if nothing else, just shut up. If you don’t want to be on board with this particular group of individuals, that’s fine. But stop your sniveling and whining. Stop your sniveling and whining. And if nothing else, try to disprove some of the things that I’ve mentioned here throughout this particular segment. And I could literally break down every single sentence word by word that Mark put out and show you the error of his ways. But I don’t need to. I don’t have that energy that time. I’m not going to do it. The reality is, like I said earlier. while somewhat correct in what Mark said, he is completely incorrect in his explanation of and has no idea when it comes to what Dave did with his own company structure, taxes, and so on. So unfortunately, Mark is completely wrong in what he put out because of that particular fact of what I just stated. a moment ago. Geno’s Auto Service coming up next, and Geno’s wants to take care of you and your vehicle. Steve Horvath, the owner, was with me this past Saturday on Drive Radio. They want to keep your vehicle running as long as possible. 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All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Okay, something that some of you may have noticed, some of you may have not seen, and this one I haven’t talked a lot about. And I always hesitate to talk about these sorts of things because I hate— talking about our own, much like I hate these conversations that I just had, even about our own party here in Colorado, although I’ve been talking about that one for a while because I want to see the party go the right direction and start making some inward positive notes when it comes to electing people because we wouldn’t be having some of the issues that we’ve got going on down at the Golden Dome, which there’s been a lot of things that are out there that some of you have even asked me to talk about that I have avoided because I hate to say this at the end of the day, good luck. Me talking about it is not going to change anything. Everything from the gun thing that has passed that Paul assigned to the whole transgender end of things and parental rights and so on. I mean, I can talk about that stuff, but no offense, you guys all know about it already. You read as much about it as I do. What’s there to talk about? Until we get some solid influence down at the Golden Dome, it’s irrelevant. The talk needs to be, how do we get people elected that can be there to make change? Because when you don’t have a seat at the table, no change can be made. So, yes, I hesitate to talk about people on our side of the aisle, although you guys also know me, and those of you that know me from the left, I don’t mince any words. I’ll say things from both sides of the aisle about both sides of the aisle because it is what it is. So, Candace Owens. who I’ll be straight up honest, I’ve played her on this program. I’ve never interviewed her on a personal level. I don’t think, Charlie, in all the years we’ve done this, I don’t think I’ve ever interviewed her. I’ve interviewed people that have been close to her, know her, things like that, but I’ve never interviewed her personally. I will say straight up that even up till now that I agree with everything Candace did. No, I didn’t. I think there’s some things that even before now Candace has been very wrong on. But she has been fired recently. from the Daily Wire because of her stance on Jews and anti-Semitism. And I’ll just say it straight up. I think Candace has gone off the rails. I’m sorry. She just has. I don’t know what has happened to her of late. I’ve read different theories that people have about her and concerning her, and I don’t know her, so I don’t know the answers. There’s theories that, you know, she’s done certain things because of monetary reasons and so on. And, folks, I don’t know. I can’t prove any of that, so I have no idea. I don’t know. I don’t know where her views on certain things. I do know that she does not like the current state of Israel. She doesn’t like those that are in leadership. Fine, that’s her prerogative. But to throw in… all of the Jews in the Jewish nation and basically be against them because you don’t like the way the country’s being run, I think is very poor. And by the way, she’s not there on a daily basis, so to even say that the country’s not being run properly, that’d be like a Canadian telling us that Donald Trump isn’t the right guy for the office. And there’s a lot of Canadians that think that, by the way. I’ve got something I was going to play in regards to Canada. If I get time, I will. But regardless, Candace has been fired. She is no longer with the Daily Wire. Now, where does she go from here? I don’t know. She’s kind of been doing her own thing and trying to go off, I think, kind of in her own way up until now. And at this point, she’ll have to do that. But I’m sorry to tell Candace she’s not Megyn Kelly. She will not have the platform and be able to do what Megyn Kelly did because she’s not Megyn Kelly. She’s not as popular. She’s not as – how do I want to say this, Charlie? She’s just not as fun to listen to typically, topically speaking. She gets off – Candace can really get off on some of these weird sort of tangents if you would, and she can literally dedicate – Several different episodes of – I don’t know whether she does podcasts or it’s Daily Wire stuff or whatever, Charlie, but she can literally get off on these tangents and dedicate several different episodes to the same topic where it’s like, okay, yeah, we get that. Move on. So she’s not – She’s not Megyn Kelly. She’s not going to be as popular as Megyn Kelly. Megyn was able to go out on her own and do her own thing and has done very well at it, by the way. And Megyn made a huge turn. Keep in mind, at one point in time, she and Donald Trump were arch enemies. They have since buried the hatchet. Megyn is very much on the Trump side of things and talks about a lot of the things that I do on a regular basis. And again, do I agree with every single thing Megyn does? No. But by and large, are her and I pretty close? Yes, we are. Do I like Megyn? Yes, I do. I didn’t when she was against Trump, but I do now. And, again, I don’t know why Candace has gone off the rails. I had a lot of respect for Candace up until, frankly, about a year or so ago. She got off on some different tangents, and it’s like, why are you going down that path? I just don’t see where this is going to end well for you. And now she’s gone down this path of really coming out, and it’s seemingly at least the impression that she’s giving is she’s an anti-Jew. And I just don’t know why you’d want to go down that path. So she has been fired. She will no longer be there. Candace insists that she is not an anti-Semite. But her actions, by the way, don’t say that. 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All right. I was talking to Charlie during the break, and I just remembered what Candace Owens, where she went down this whole rabbit hole of things that, frankly, when she did, I sort of stopped listening. I don’t know how else to say it. She would, you know, there’d be a video, a TikTok, Instagram or whatever. And I just sort of like, yeah, OK, whatever, Candace. And that’s after she went down this path of going after the prime minister’s wife of France or president of France, whatever you call him. Bridget McCrone. She went in. Candace went into this entire like diatribe and went down this whole path of she was born a man. Now she’s a woman and she’s a transgender and blah, blah, blah. And to the point where I think even the French president threatened Candace. And there was this whole, you know, shebang over all of that whole to do over it. And I’m one of those where it’s like, who cares? I mean, honestly, who cares? It’s France. They’re weird anyways. Who cares? I’m sorry if you’re from France, but weird. I mean, I don’t care. I don’t care that she’s a transgender. I mean, at that time she was going through all of that. We had all sorts of issues going on here in our own country. Now, what I told Charlie during the break, and I’ll tell all of you, if there was an idea that Jill Biden herself was a transgender, then there might be a story there. I’m not sure what kind of a story, but there might be a story there. But at the end of the day, this whole thing with France and Candace going down that rabbit hole, where I’m not joking, she spent on her program weeks, and I’m not exaggerating, weeks. I think even did Charlie a documentary or something along these lines, if I’m not mistaken. I mean, she really went down a huge rabbit hole of, is Bridget Macron a man? And I think there is like a documentary or a short film or something along those lines. I’m looking at it. It’s on IMDB, so I’m correct on that, Charlie. She actually did an actual like series on this. And again, at the end of the day, who cares? So you take that and then you go down this path that she’s doing now of really people are accusing her of being anti-Jew. Bad move on her part. Whoever, if anyone is advising her, they’re doing a very poor job of it. Charlie told me something during the break, and I think he’s correct. Candace has always seemed to be one of those people that she wants to be the shock jock in the room. She wants to bring you the most shocking thing she can, even if it means she has to do an apology after because maybe it’s not quite right. She kind of at times wants to be Alex Jones. Is that a good way to say it, Charlie? Because that’s what he does. He’s this big shock jock. Unfortunately for Alex, he’s wrong 90% of the time. Somebody else, by the way, that kind of fits into that, and I saw some posting on some things that she had said today, Pam Geller. which some of you I know follow her and you think she’s great. I don’t, by the way. I don’t follow Pam. I think she’s a wackadoodle. And Laura Loomer is another one. Neither one of them will I follow. I think both of them are way out there. And there are other ones that, by the way, do some of these things just because they get more notoriety and because of the more notoriety, they make more money. No, Charlie, they didn’t used to be. Thank you. No, at one time, those were both very sane, I think very down-to-earth women that really had good center and had things handled pretty well. And then something went awry. And I don’t know what, but something went awry. And would I look at anything Laura Loomer or Pam Geller, either one, say? No, I don’t find either one of them to be that respectful at all. In fact, they’re wrong more than they’re right. I’m just telling you, they’re wrong more than they’re right. Where I got on the Pam Geller thing is where there was supposedly an article she put out today that Alberta wants to become the 51st state of the U.S. They’ve started some sort of petition. They have 170,000 signatures. Okay, so they do. They’re not going to become the 51st state, folks. I’ll bet my life on that. Not going to happen. Not going to happen. Pam can put it out. That’s shocking news. It ain’t going to happen, folks. Anybody that’s repeating that even, you’re a dodo head. Not going to happen. You can talk about it all you want. While it’s a nice idea and it’d be great, it’s not going to happen. Period. You think Canada’s going to allow that to happen? It’s not going to happen. So why talk about it? Why waste any breath on that? Because it isn’t going to happen. But that’s the kind of stuff that, in this particular case, Pam Geller has put out. And again, Laura Loomer, I mean, she’s the same way. Some of these people will put stuff out there. And again, it’s nothing more than for a shock effect. I was talking about another talk show host here in the Denver area earlier, talking about tariffs and things along those lines. Folks, and I hope I say this the right way. I try to be as unbiased – we all have bias – but I try to be as unbiased about certain things as I can. I try to look at things very reasonable. And I don’t go after the shock effect on this show. And maybe it’s because – and Charlie and I were talking about this during one of the breaks – maybe it’s because this isn’t my only gig. This is not my only source of income. I don’t – frankly, folks, and I’m not trying to say this in any kind of a rude or mean-spirited way against Crawford Broadcasting – I could make more money not doing this show. I have other businesses, other interests, and other things that I honestly could go do that I’m not joking would generate me more revenue and income, profit, at the end of the year. And I could make more money, financially speaking, by not being on Air Every Day. And I’m not saying that to be mean or rude. I’m very thankful to be here. I enjoy sitting in front of this microphone. I enjoy talking to all of you. But I’m not in it for the money. I guess that’s ultimately what I’m trying to say. I’m not here for the money. I’m like Trump in that way. I’m not here for the money. I’m here because I like being here. I like talking to all of you. I feel like I’m doing my part to maybe help set the record straight in a lot of areas and even get Colorado back on track in a lot of ways, get the country back on track. That’s why I’m here. I’m not here for the cash. I don’t think a lot of talk show hosts, by the way, can say that, especially in this town. Most of them are in it, maybe with the exception of one other. Most of them are in it for the cash. It’s their only source of income. So they have to pour every single thing they can into it, and the more clicks and likes and views and listens and all of that that they get, that’s how their worth goes up, and that’s how they make more money at the end of the day. I don’t have to do that, folks. That’s not what I’m here for. I’m not here for ratings. I’m here to get as much information out to all of you as I possibly can, try to set the record straight in as many areas as I can, try to get all of you to think more independently as you can, so that at the end of the day, we have a better country, better state, better city, and so on. That’s what I’m here for. So I don’t do a lot of those shocking things that you’ll see a lot of other hosts and folks do. I guess because I’m not that person anyways. Charlie knows that. He’s known me for a very, very long time, even before doing this daily program. I’m just not that person. But on top of that, I don’t have to. And if I had, I’d have to go find something else to do. Because I can’t do what Pam Geller and Laura Lomer and Alex Jones and even now Candace Owens. I can’t do that, folks. That’s not in my nature. I’m not that person. and even some other hosts in town. I’m not that person. I can’t do that. I will always try to give you guys what I feel is the most accurate, presentable information that’s out there at any given time. If I make a mistake, I’ll come back on and talk about a mistake that I have made. I’ll set the record straight. I try to be as honest with all of you as I possibly can, and I am not here for the flash. I am not here for the clicks. It’s why I’m not huge on social media, folks, because I don’t care. I don’t care at the end of the day. That’s not why I’m here. 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All right, folks, that’s it for today. Hope you guys all have a fabulous evening. Try to stay dry tomorrow. We do have a lot of weather coming in, so stay safe. One last thing. I should have done this as a PSA earlier. I haven’t done it yet this year. If you don’t know how deep the water is that you’re driving through, don’t. I’ll leave you with that. Have a great night. Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
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