In this thought-provoking episode, Kim Munson invites you to consider the essence of American patriotism and the vital role of the Constitution in our democracy. With expert insights from Yvonne Paez, the show discusses Trump’s controversial potential acceptance of a Qatari jet, exploring the international and security implications. Dive in to understand how these discussions connect to larger themes of election integrity and the decline in public safety in US cities.
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Remember, if something is a good idea, you should not have to use force to implement it. And on the show, we focus on the issues. And sometimes that takes a lot of real discipline to do that because human beings have personalities and we can get into the personality thing. And so it takes a lot of work to focus on the issues, but we are dedicated to doing so. Our word of the day. is indelible. It’s I-N-D-E-L-I-B-L-E. It’s an adjective. It could be impossible to remove, erase, or wash away, permanent. Number two, making a mark not easily erased or washed away. And number three, unable to be forgotten, memorable. And I pulled this because actually it was used in the scriptures on Sunday. Now I can’t remember exactly what it was exactly, so I’ll go to what the dictionary said. It could be indelible ink. an indelible pin for labeling clothing or an indelible memory so your challenge is to use indelible in a sentence today and our quote of the day i went to mark twain and he said in this he’s and of course he was a great author And he said, in the beginning of a change, the patriot is a scarce man and brave and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot. And the other night when we were at the Cup board meeting, we were talking about that the founding of our country is There were just a few that stepped forward for freedom. And ultimately, with their courage, our country was founded, and it was then put in place, this constitution, that we would settle our differences uh, via, um, our constitution instead of picking arms up against each other as, uh, as throughout history, that’s what has happened. And that is what is so unique about, uh, the United States of America is that we are, have this framework to, um, Settle our differences that way. And that’s why the Constitution is so important. And that’s why we need to make sure that we understand it, read it and adhere to it. And with all that’s going on, we’re going to have a very interesting conversation today in the second hour, because. Trent Luce, and rightfully so, he’s looking at some of these things that are happening and are questioning them. We always have to question. That is for sure. But I think it’s going to be an interesting conversation. And I’m going to want you all to weigh in as well, because he’s got some questions about the Trump administration. And I think we need to probably have a conversation about that. I had not pulled up the bio on Mark Twain, so I wanted to do that quickly. And again, this is such an important quote on what he said. He said that in the beginning of a change, the patriot is a scarce man and brave and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot. And Mark Twain was born in 1835. He died in 1910. He was an American writer, humorist, and essayist. He was praised as the greatest humorist the United States has produced, with William Faulkner calling him the father of American literature. His novels include The Adventures of Tom Sawyer. It’s sequel, Adventures of Huckleberry Finn. Those were a couple of books that I know had been attempted to be banned in school libraries a while back. I was just, as I was mentioning that, going down memory lane. So again, that’s a great quote by Mark Twain. headlines, there’s a couple of things that I wanted to mention. First is I saw that there was a police activity yesterday at Denver’s Union Station. And that has become a very dangerous place. And I remember pre-COVID, I would go down And there was a great little hamburger place there that I’d meet friends for lunch. And I used to love to go down to Union Station. Of course, a lot of money was poured into Union Station to make it really a beautiful building. But there’s a lot of crime there, and that’s going on right now. And so I’ve pulled this from westward. and Union Station and Civic Center. Again, I used to love to go down to the Civic Center as well, and also that whole area. And I really don’t like to go down there much at all. Both those places have become pretty dangerous places to be. And it’s because Denver is in decline. And why is Denver in decline? Because the extremist Democrats that have taken over the Democrat Party in Colorado And they have been in power down at the Capitol and also in Denver government. And our city, this beautiful city that I loved is totally in decline. And we’ve got to do things to reclaim this and we need to do this at the ballot box. And that’s why the election stuff that we’ve been working on is so important. Stay tuned. I did talk with both Marley Hornick regarding our lawsuit with United Sovereign Americans. Of course, we had Harry Howry on last week, who’s a co-founder. And it looks like there may be some adjustments to that lawsuit. But just stay tuned. That is out there. And then I talked with Peter Berneger the other day regarding our other lawsuit. And he said that the secretary of state had come back and We had to have a very targeted list, and we ran that as of Election Day. And that targeted list, we found 14,500 people that should not have received ballots and had voted. And so that is the premise of the lawsuit. And apparently the Secretary of State came back and challenged 30 of those names. And Peter and company went through and on each of those 30 names and every one of those 29 of the 30 names were totally rock solid on our side. And so stay tuned on what’s going to happen with that. But elections are so important. So we need to be doing two things. We need to be making sure that our elections are free, fair, honest and transparent and Number one, and then we need to make sure that we are electing candidates that have the fortitude to actually, first of all, understand our American ideas, stand, be representatives of the people instead of representatives as politicians, bureaucrats and interested parties. One other thing, I saw this headline, and this is from CNBC, and it says Medicaid work requirements would kick hardworking people off health care coverage, Senator Warnock says. Now, wait a minute. If you have to have work requirements, how can it be hardworking? So anyway, let’s just unpack this just a little bit. It says, as some Washington lawmakers look to slash federal spending, Medicaid cuts could be on the table. But proposals to implement work requirements for coverage eligibility should be off the table, Democrat Senator Raphael Warnock tells CNBC.com. He says, what we see is that this is a good way to kick a lot of people off their health care, hardworking everyday Americans who are struggling. So let’s, first of all, if there’s work requirements, it seems like you would be hardworking. So that’s the first thing I don’t understand. But the second thing is, is health care has gotten so expensive and taxes have gotten so expensive, sales tax. Hardworking people that are trying to buy things for their families, everyday things that they need for their families, that’s more expensive because of sales taxes. And, of course, property taxes going up across the board, that plays out to all of Americans. And so I do agree. I think that we need to have work requirements for Medicaid. And so Warnock’s talking out of both sides of his mouth here. 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and welcome back to the kim munson show be sure and check out our website that is kim munson m-o-n-s-o-n.com sign up for our weekly email newsletter you can email me at kim kimmunson.com as well thank you to all of you who support us we’re an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force force versus freedom if something’s a good idea you should not have to force people to do it the show comes due because of our sponsors and i thank the harris family for their goal sponsorship of the show On the line with me is Yvonne Paez. She is the co-founder of Perspectives 101, which is a civics group that meets up in northern Colorado. It’s nonpartisan, but talks about many of these issues just to inform people. So Yvonne Paez, welcome to the show.
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Thank you, Kim, and good morning to you and to the audience. Thank you.
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Good to have you. And also, you guest host the show as well from time to time, and I greatly appreciate that.
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Oh, you’re very welcome. And thanks for mentioning Perspectives 101, which you will actually be there this month on the 22nd.
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I’m excited about that. That should be really interesting and good conversation. So let’s jump in here, though. There’s a lot of headlines regarding Trump. Apparently, Qatar has offered him a jet, and he’s kicking around the idea of accepting it. And Joe and I were talking about it. I said, huh. Seems to me like that would be a real security issue for him to accept a jet from an Arabian country and from the Arabian area over there. And he said, well, you know, why don’t you talk to Yvonne Paez? Because she’s been in the military and a police officer. And so we wanted to get your take on this. And I’m looking at different headlines on it. And Trump is saying, why wouldn’t I accept this gift? Nikki Haley says, regarding the Qatari jet, if this were Biden, we would be furious. Chuck Schumer is threatening to block any judicial or DOJ nominees over this jet. So what’s your thoughts on all this, Yvonne?
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Oh, gosh. Okay, so, you know, having been responsible for securing sensitive military facilities, et cetera, of course, when I heard this a few days ago, the first thing that comes to my mind is the security alert, alert, alert kind of thing, right? But I don’t jump into it. I mean, I find it comical. I mean, I’m sorry, but it is a little, you know, you shouldn’t laugh at these things, but sometimes you kind of do. When everybody starts, you know, just losing their stopover over this and, you know, doing all this pearl clutching and whatever. So let’s kind of analyze this. So, you know, when I heard about it and I think about Qatar’s offer to gift an Air Force One to the United States and him considering it as a security issue. Right. So what could go wrong with that? Let’s see. I wouldn’t say that they’re necessarily a hostile nation, but it’s a nation that can go any way they want to go. So it’s not necessarily like they’re your lifelong friend and stuff. So you have to be a little careful. And so what kind of security issues are we talking about? Obviously, the simplest one is, oh, can it be bugs? But more than that, I mean, can there be physical dangers with it, right? And if somebody doesn’t understand physical dangers of something, let me equate this to Let’s say the U.S. builds embassies in other countries, right? And I’m somewhat familiar with some of those processes. And that usually has to be done by American contractors. So a U.S. embassy is going to be built by Americans somewhere else. They’re going to send American people over there. And to some of what I understand – They ship every single part and piece that’s going to build that over there at their American made. So, I mean, you can see why we’re what that’s about. It’s about keeping control of every piece that’s going to go into the manufacturing of something where you’re going to put Americans. And that’s just an embassy. So if we start talking about, you know, a plane that’s going to carry the president, you can you can put that on steroids. Right. So that’s what we’re looking at. So why is there a security concern? For obvious reasons. So back to the bug, maybe danger of a physical danger. I mean, is this thing going to go down? Is it going to explode? Is it going to whatever? Are they going to, you could like, if somebody else makes this and you have no control over the makings and people think, oh, well, when it’s done, we’ll just go sweep it, you know, and we’ll find whatever bugs are in it. It’s not that simple. I mean, when you’re manufacturing every piece, every bolt, you know, the whole thing, things can be just baked into the fabric of stuff. So, yes, it’s a concern. Okay, now why am I not that concerned at the moment? Well, one, he hasn’t even accepted it. And let me say, you know, back to the security thing, if you’re a student of history, you know, we need to think things like Trojan horses, right? But people who don’t think that way are just lacking in imagination, I guess. So then there’s secondary considerations. But what do you think so far?
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Well, I like what you’re saying. So continue.
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So then after that first thought, because that’s where my mind’s going to go first is all the security, then I kind of actually laughed. And then I thought as if making him or the U.S., you know, him a plane in the U.S. is any less dangerous. I mean, this guy, like, half the country voted for him, or just over half, and the rest of them either, you know, voted for him just wanting to see what’s going to happen, or, you know, or, you know, so the rest of them didn’t vote for him. And a lot of them are very, very, how do I put this politely? They’re not very excited about him being president and, or for those of us that understand it, suffer from TDS. You know, they hear the name Trump and they’re just, you know, they’re having palpitations, shall we say. So when a person has been, you know, treated the way he’s been treated and then all the lawfare and then, you know, people take a couple shots at him, things like that, then what makes you think that making a complaint in the United States for this man is going to be any safer? So Uh, that’s where my mind goes, because again, I really think about these things and because I was in charge of making people safe, um, in, in the military. So, um, so that’s a problem, right? So I kind of laugh at that and I’m like, well, can Boeing be trusted? Because, you know, maybe as a company, but you know, a company is made up of people and if, you know, people get in there and they want to harm him, well, then that’s an issue in itself, right? Then we’ve got the whole issue of Boeing not getting the plane done. So that’s a whole different issue. And I kind of laughed again saying, well, why can’t Boeing get a plane done? I mean, isn’t that what they do? So then you have to realize, well, why are they stalling? Do they want him? They don’t want him to have a new plane. So they’re going to write it out until he’s done with his terms and give a new plane to somebody else. I mean, is this kind of like, I don’t like you. I’m not making your planes. So it’s really kind of funny. So then I think of, I laugh again and go, you know, it’s not about the, it’s not about really about who’s making the plane over here or over there. It’s about getting the plane done. So I think of who he is and think about how he thinks. And he’s just a person who gets things done. And I’m sure he’s quite impatient with it not getting done. So he’s kind of enjoying pitting one builder against another builder to maybe light a fire under Boeing’s, hiney and put a little egg on their face for a plane building company either stating or somehow well who cares what they’re saying the the the actions are that they’re not building or finishing the plane. So there you go.
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Okay. So I, and so you and I were talking about all the security things and this is coming in on the text line as well as I also seen a headline on this. And so in the constitution, there’s the, this emoluments where our elected representatives are president. They’re not supposed to be accepting gifts from other countries. Although I’ll just say the word Biden and we’ll just let that hang out there. But but and this is a good point from Mark. He said Trump would be subject to gifts and gratuities as all other government officials are, as should be. But it would be seen as influence peddling. And I think that appearance. So that’s why I find it kind of interesting that Trump would let that be out there. So your thoughts.
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Well, let me stop you right there, because this gift isn’t to Trump. Let’s make that clear first. The plane belongs to the United States government. So the gift is to the United States. And if we want to start talking not accepting gifts, then, you know, somebody I heard somewhere, you know, among conversations about this, well, then it makes total sense that maybe we should return the Statue of Liberty because it’s my understanding that the French gave us that so we can give that back. So who is the gift for? Okay. Not that we should be accepting it. Not that it’s safe or anything like that. But it would be a gift to the United States government, right? So, again, it’s not about the silly plane. I mean, to me, really, it’s about, you know, embarrassing Boeing a little bit for not being able to do what they claim that they do, which is build planes. Right.
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Okay, which he certainly has been art of the deal on so many different things. And so it’s interesting. So you’re not as concerned about the security component of it as I think I initially was on that, Yvonne?
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I’m incredibly concerned about the security part of it, only if it’s ever gifted to us. So, you see, we’re not there yet. I mean, this could just be, you know, they’re offering something, and he’s like, okay, let’s think about this. And in the meantime, everybody over here is going, oh, my God, oh, my God, we’ve got to make a plan because we can’t let somebody else make it. Well, gee, isn’t that what we want?
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Okay. So ultimately, you think it may be that he will accomplish getting what needs to be done, just as he normally does with a very kind of negotiated way to handle things. So let’s just back up a little bit to Perspectives 101 before we let you go. And you started this, gosh, was it before COVID or during COVID?
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I started it just before COVID, and I would say we because it was us, Solomon and I, who started it just before COVID. It would have been the fall of 2019, and we pretty much figured out through speaking with people that when we spoke of ongoing things, most people said I had no idea. Then we felt that if nobody had any idea of what was going on around them, and we were driving this bus called the U.S. straight off a cliff, maybe we should be informing people of what was going around, what’s happening around us. Because people are busy, and they’re just working, and they’re busy doing their lives. So it’s not easy always to get information. And so we bring different speakers on all sorts of different subjects. And then we inform people about what’s going on. So it’s really an informative conversation. civic group is all it is, but it’s, it’s, it’s fun. It’s a good time gathering and it’s, it’s enlightening.
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And there’s no website. So if people want more information, how can they get it?
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They can email perspectives101.info at gmail.com.
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Okay. Well, Yvonne Paez, as always, thank you. I really appreciate your perspective. I appreciate you when you guest host the show as well and have a great day.
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Thank you. And again, let’s not worry about what hasn’t happened yet. Let’s see why it’s being done.
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Okay. Great point, Yvonne. I really appreciate your perspective. Hence, Perspectives 101. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, Kim. And all this happens because of our sponsors. And for anything regarding buying a home, selling a home, or looking at a new build, you want to have Karen Levine on your side of the table.
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And welcome back to the Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at Kim Munson dot com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We’re an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something’s a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And tomorrow is the USMC Memorial Foundation Golf Tournament. And if you’re a golfer, I think there might still be a few spots left. And it’ll be a beautiful day, a great way to support the memorial. And Teresa Irby, our partnership liaison, and I will be out there for lunch. I’m not a golfer, but we will be out there for lunch, and we’d love to have you join us. You can get more information about that by going to usmcmemorialfoundation.org. That is usmcmemorialfoundation.org. And I’m pleased to have on the line with me Virginia Maka. She is the founder of Stand for the Land Kansas and has really been working to protect private property rights. She’s been concerned about the imminent domain and takings of land for these big swaths of land for transmission lines, but she’s also got some other things going on. Virginia, welcome to the show. Good morning, Kim, and good morning to Colorado from Kansas. Well, as I think most people now know, I grew up in Kansas, and I love the plains of western Kansas and the plains of eastern Colorado. But you’re doing amazing work there. And just before we get into the subject that you are doing amazing work on, regarding green energy components that are being manufactured with slave labor. Give us an update on the transmission lines, what’s happening with that on Stanford and Kansas.
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Kim, as every effort that we’ve put out in front, our counties have really held the line, and it has pretty much slowed down. the pace to a very slow crawl for the green energy people here in Kansas. We actually are now combating our public utility provider, which is Evergy Energy. They are a necessary monopoly, according to the state, and they are on their third rate increase to cover the construction So we are headed to battle in June on these rate hearings and have people show up and testify. The last time I was at a rate hearing, it lasted to well over 11 o’clock at night, and they heard every person there, which is well over 100, maybe 150 people, voicing their opinions on these rates. And it is really hurting our senior citizens and our people on fixed incomes. It hurts the impoverished. It really hurts the community. So we are looking at some legislators waking up and a lot of people are coming to the front on the county level. So we’re really excited about some of the things that we’re doing.
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So, Virginia, I was at a meeting yesterday, and it was energy people and also an elected person. And they were talking about these AI centers and the increased energy needs, which looks like that plays out to transmission lines. And I thought, huh. And then also talking about green energy. And I’m a little concerned about what’s happening in the higher echelons regarding energy. I came away a little disconcerted on this because it seemed to me like people – are buying into this whole AI thing and the energy needs on that, which would play out in transmission lines. And I just came away a little concerned. I know that I’m being a little evasive on that, but I’m concerned that the higher echelons, that they’re not really understanding what this is doing to everyday people.
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You know, Kim, everybody in your audience should be concerned. Now think about this. AI is based on information and data. That’s your data. That’s your information. That’s information that’s being collected by your own government. And so think about if someone had the power to know everything about you and these AI centers were able to create a profile of you. What power does that person have to create that profile, whether it’s right or wrong? So data is one of your most precious assets and the public doesn’t even realize it yet. So if you watch, say, a movie about, you know, clandestine spies and they have a profile of you and What if that profile is not correct? What if that data is not correct? We should all be concerned about these data centers because AI is based on information and data. So you have to ask yourself, what exactly is this data and this information? And is any of that my information and my personal and private data? that perhaps our own state government collected. So yes, data centers are a huge problem. I believe that Elon Musk has even addressed the person in charge of AI and AI needs to be moral and needs to be responsible, but no one seems to be listening to him. And I believe that there are people now in that arena that are looking at the power. Look what China does to their people with a social score. And that’s kind of a scary thing. And we wouldn’t think in America that could happen. It could very easily happen. And so I’ve been in the data arena for a while. And that is kind of how I got over to this subject of human rights. I started looking at China and social scores and the power of having that kind of data and what you could do to a person’s life. So tax credits, everybody needs to stand up against tax credits for data centers. AI can be used for good, but it can also be used for bad. There has to be an edict on responsibility and protection of the individual’s rights. So that is concerning as well. The transmission lines that are going to carry this, the solar and the wind, is a pipe dream. And President Trump knows that. And that is why his Secretary of Energy has been out here talking about nuclear, talking about oil, talking about gas, talking about coal. because those are base load energies that you can depend on and it delivers energy. It doesn’t deliver tragic, eminent domain across everybody’s land. The reason that everybody is concerned about eminent domain is because the green energy footprint is so large and so complicated. that in the end it’s not going to satisfy these energy needs. I don’t think we’ve gotten into a conversation yet about that kind of power going across our lands and even the electromagnetic fields that it could possibly affect your health. So that I think those are future conversations and we have to battle them on all fronts.
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Well, we do. And thank you, because I’ve been contemplating just these conversations that I listened to yesterday. So I thank you for that. So let’s get over here. Actually, let’s go to break early, Virginia. That way we don’t have to stop the conversation on this. I’m talking with Virginia Maka. She is the founder of Stand for the Land Kansas, has a deep understanding of our Constitution. has a deep understanding of property rights, individual rights, liberty, and certainly some of the images that she sent over. And we had one of those images also in our documentary, A Climate Conversation, and that was of children that were mining minerals that were needed in batteries, in car batteries. And from just a moral standpoint, we have to ask, should we be purchasing things that are being manufactured by slave labor? And so that’s the question on the table. And we have these discussions because of our sponsors. And we’ll talk with him in the next hour. And that is Lorne Levy for Everything Mortgages.
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And welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. Email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We’re an independent voice on an independent station searching for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something’s a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. and do check out the Center for American Values located in Pueblo on the beautiful Riverwalk. They will be in honor of Memorial Day on the 28th of May. They will have an On Values presentation. You can get that information by going to AmericanValuesCenter.org. That’s AmericanValuesCenter.org. I’m talking with Virginia Maka. She is the founder of Stand for the Land Kansas, and we’re talking about something new that she is working on. And that is regarding bringing to light, first of all, that slave labor is being used in China to manufacture the components for, in air quotes, green energy. Of course, I’ve learned in all of the research we’ve done, the green and green energy is the green that’s going into PBI’s pockets. But resolutions that they are presenting to counties to say that we’re not going to, well, regarding holding renewables to a human standard. So talk to us about this, Virginia Maka.
SPEAKER 06 :
Kim, the two words that send fear through anybody in the green energy sector is human rights. And you look at human rights. as being the basic rights and freedoms that every person has just because you are human. And those basic rights are just being trampled when it comes to China’s production of green energy. So I sat with some lawyers and we made a resolution And our first county in Kansas has adopted that resolution, holding renewables to a human standard. Because in America, we should honor everybody’s human rights, whether they are here or the products that are actually offending our human rights as landowners, as Americans, our basic freedoms play into the same arena. So… I did some research, and what I found was that there is an area of China. It’s the northwest quadrant of China, and it’s an autonomous territory, and it’s called Shenyang. This territory is mountainous, it’s desert, and it’s home to the Muslims, the Uyghur Muslims. These are the most highly persecuted people in China. Their small children at eight years old are taken from their parents and that they will never return to their parents or see their parents again and are put into slave labor camps. And these slave labor camps are, they have hospitals, they have training, they have everything against the Uyghur Muslims’ religion. They programmed these children, and these children head in these labor camps to mines, and they mine the toxic chemicals specific for green energy. So those toxic chemicals are ending up over here in America in these panels. They are cobalt, which is deadly, silicate, copper, silver, and cadmium, which is even more toxic because we’ve spent half a century cleaning up the cadmium from the lead mines. And so there was an effort of our federal government It was part of the Uyghur Human Rights Project. And this project held human rights hearings across the world, across the trade countries that funnel these panels or green energy components into our country. So our federal government God bless them. They did something right. In December 23 of 2021, Joe Biden signed in to law, the U.S. Congress Public Law 117-78. And that is the enforcement of an import ban on these components by June of 22. And there was No exception granted except you would have to go in front of the Commissioner of U.S. Customs, which I don’t know who that currently is, but we all need to make sure that that’s on our radar. And the importers will be expected to show the burden of proof that those components were not made on the backs of slave labor from this autonomous region. Now, what’s really great about this, it was codified in our trade law, Section 22, USC Code 6901. And we have many trade partners that have codified this in their trade law. So Canada and Mexico were also part of this. And in essence, we made a database. where we could actually track and identify these products that are imported through these countries that have come up through our trade partners to see if they actually offend the human rights treaty that has been adopted by all these countries. So I actually found these panels, these solar panels existing in Kansas. And I took pictures of those panels, and I took pictures of the SKU numbers, the company they came from. And the company, Trini Solar, happens to be the biggest defender of the slave labor laws that have been put in place to protect the Uighur Muslims. So this resolution As it is adopted in a county, what it says is before any permit is issued, these papers will have to be surrendered to law enforcement and law enforcement will work with Homeland Security to verify that these components or panels were not made on the backs of slaves. And so right now we are working through that chain of custody of those papers when they are submitted to the county so that we can make sure there’s a clear pathway to verify that these panels were not made on the backs of slaves where these panels came from. And that when that permit is issued, we at least have a conscious free commission that stood up for human rights. So it’s been a very interesting two words to throw out there to commissioners. Some of them think it’s a lifeline and you can tell which ones don’t. So that is what we’ve been doing here in Kansas, working on Those components like chain of custody of these papers and how we verify those through Homeland Security and how our sheriffs in our counties work with Homeland Security to verify where these panels came from.
SPEAKER 07 :
So are you getting support from the Trump administration on this or do you interact with them much on that?
SPEAKER 06 :
The sheriff will interact with Homeland Security. Okay. We’re waiting for our first set of papers to be submitted to the county that adopted this. The county that adopted this actually is a federal, is a hub. And we noticed they were filling up warehouse after warehouse at an old ammunition plant to the ceilings with these panels. to the point where they actually went out to a little town named Galesburg, Kansas, and filled warehouses full of these panels. And that is where I had the opportunity with a neighbor to take some pictures of an opened, you know, open exposure of these panels and really get a gist of where they came from, why they were hiding them in warehouses. And these panels were, would literally take up thousands and thousands of acres of Southeast Kansas and that those acres would be off the tax rolls. So, um,
SPEAKER 07 :
Which means that unless taxes are lowered, which we see PBIs don’t like to do that, taxes will remain the same, but that lands off the tax rolls. So that means that taxes will go higher and higher for everyday Americans, and which ultimately that’s another way of taking property away from people is through taxation. So this is all connected, isn’t it?
SPEAKER 06 :
It sure is. It is a web. When you raise – when you take land off tax rolls and don’t tax solar companies on this, it falls back on the people that are paying taxes and their taxes go higher. And then you have mitigation if something happens. And then you have cost of –
SPEAKER 07 :
Like a hailstorm, a hailstorm and those chemicals going onto the land. And we’re just about out of time. Virginia, we’re going to book you again, get you scheduled on this. It’s a web. And trying to connect a web is a difficult thing. You’re doing amazing work. How can people find your website?
SPEAKER 06 :
You know, if anybody would like more information, I have a slideshow prepared, and I have a video. And the video is so heart-wrenching. I didn’t realize the impact that it had, but it had massive impact on two commissioners in this county. Because once you see it, you can’t not unsee it. And so if they would email me at Virginia at Stan4, the number 4, thelandkansas.com, I will send you all the information that you will need to go in front of your county commissioner because this isn’t just for Kansas. This is across the Midwest. If you are having problems with green energy, at least hold them to a standard, a human standard. And there isn’t much a county commissioner can say when it is a federal law and it’s codified in our trade law. I will educate you on that. And I would love to come back and talk about the Uyghur Muslims and what they face every day.
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We’ll make that happen. Virginia Maka, Stand for the Land Kansas. That’s Virginia at Stand for the Land Kansas dot com. Our quote for the end of the show is from Mark Twain. He said the two most important days in your life are the day you are born and the day you find out why. So today, be grateful. Read great books. Think good thoughts. Listen to beautiful music. Communicate and listen well, if honestly and authentically. Strive for high ideals. Like Superman, stand for truth, justice and the American way. You are not alone. God bless you and God bless America.
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And important discussion. I just my heart is hurts to think I’ve looked at some of these images. Virginia Maka was our featured guest in our number one about Uyghur children in China that are being used to manufacture things for green energy, such as solar panels or the ingredients that go into that. And my heart hurts for this. So I’ll be thinking a lot about this. Check out our website. That’s Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. And while you’re there, sign up for our weekly email newsletter. That way you’ll get first look at our upcoming guests as well as our most recent essays. You can email me at Kim at Kim Munson dot com. And thank you to all of you who support us. We’re an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues ourselves. through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something’s a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. The show comes to you 6 to 8 a.m. Monday through Friday. First hour is rebroadcast 1 to 2 in the afternoon, second hour 10 to 11 at night. That’s on all KLZ platforms, KLZ 560 AM, KLZ 100.7 FM, the KLZ website, the KLZ app. And you can say, Alexa, play KLZ. And then after all that, you can find us on Spotify and iTunes as well. We look at these issues. Through this lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom, if something’s a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And we look to protect individual rights, property rights, parental rights, our election systems. We focus on a lot of really important things here on the show. But let’s get over here to our word of the day. And that is indelible. And it is spelled I-N-D-E-L-I-B-L-E. And it could be impossible to remove, erase or wash away. And I would say this conversation with Virginia Maka is indelible in my mind. regarding these children and these photographs of these kids that are doing slave labor in China for green energy components. So indelible is our word of the day, I-N-D-E-L-I-B-L-E, and it could be impossible to remove, erase, or wash away, permanent. Number two, making a mark, not easily erased or washed away. Or number three, unable to be forgotten or memorable. Our quote of the day is, is from Mark Twain. And he said this, Mark Twain was born in 1835, died in 1910. He was known, well, he was an American writer, humorist, essayist, and praised as the greatest humorist in the United States by William Faulkner, calling him the father of American literature. And he was the author of The Adventures of Tom Sawyer, The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn. And this is what Mark Twain said. He said, In the beginning of a change, the patriot is a scarce man and brave and hated and scorned. When his cause succeeds, the timid join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot. And I wanted to get through just a few of these text messages from our number one regarding our second segment with Yvonne talking about this offer from Qatar of a jet. And Trump is getting a lot of heat on if he accepts it. But Yvonne brought up this important point. And Susan said this is right, that it is a gift to America, not Trump. And then also, we were talking about security if this jet was manufactured by a country from the Arabian Peninsula. And Susan said this, with Boeing’s DEI hires could be worried about the safety of a Boeing plane. And then let’s see here. Another, Sandra said, great conversation with Yvonne. Envy can be… Remember, envy is always the driver, which is one of the deadly sins. And we have to ask ourselves, if the Democrats would have been offered a Boeing 747, how would they respond? Good point. Again, this is being offered to America, not to Trump. We need to remember that. And then… Another one says, Trump is a gracious man. He is a man who’s had his life threatened more than once. He’s no dummy. I don’t believe he would ever accept this gift. And then regarding Boeing, Mark said this. He said, you have to understand that the challenge for Boeing is that Air Force One is a military acquisition. Government requirements and all the red tape involved in military acquisitions is the reason the systems are taking so long to build, test, and deliver. And this happens with all defense contractors, not just Trump. And so great points on all of that. And we have these important discussions because of our sponsors. And on the line with me is Lorne Levy for Everything Mortgages. He works with a lot of different companies, which means he’s not just constrained to use just one company, which I love. Choice is a great thing. And he can help people in 49 of the 50 states, just not New York. Lorne Levy, welcome.
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Hey, good morning, Kim.
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Well, and last week, I embarrassed you because I had received, and I say that tongue-in-cheek, I’d received a really heartfelt thank you to both you and Karen Levine, Remax Realtor, for helping this particular person’s son and his wife. They’d gotten themselves in a difficult situation, I think because of a health challenge. and you and Karen stepped forward and really helped them, and I read that on the air, and it was really, it’s amazing. I was talking to Karen afterwards. I said, it’s one thing when you appreciate something that somebody has done, but to take the time and energy to write an email and send it to me, I really thought that was very special, Lauren Levy.
SPEAKER 11 :
I agree. I was surprised by it. That’s why when you read it, when you sent it to us, I was kind of surprised. I was like, wow, because you don’t really – these are things you just do in the course of your day, you know, and you don’t realize you’re having an impact. So it was nice.
SPEAKER 07 :
It really was nice. So let’s talk about, I thought I saw a headline yesterday that inflation numbers had cooled a bit. So what’s your thoughts about that, Lorne Levy?
SPEAKER 11 :
You’re correct about that. And when we saw, even this past week, we saw applications for mortgages to buy homes went up about 1% week over week. And I think that’s because there’s more inventory. So buyers are seeing more and more signs out there and feeling like they don’t have to be stuck just with the one home they can find, you know, now there’s more choice. So that’s helping. Um, and you did see inventory numbers cooled. I went ahead and read pretty deep into those articles and I’m not that it didn’t cool. It’s overall, it did. Um, it’s just certain segments. So like, for example, we’re all seeing relief at the gas pump right now. I mean, I’m seeing numbers with a two in front of it again, which is nice. Um, and, uh, but I still think the grocery store is a challenge and, uh, and housing meaning mortgage rates and things like that. So it did cool in certain places, which is great for what the Fed looks at. But it was a split number sort of, which is why you didn’t see a huge reaction from the market. You’re seeing bigger market reactions from, well, the news was greatly outweighed by the 90-day pause on the tariffs on China. So, you know, that took hold, which was nice. The market had a good day, you know.
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So I’ve got a question on tariffs. I know someone that has some things manufactured in China, just a small little entrepreneur, and they came in just at the very top of the tariffs. So these little companies that might have been affected by this, and then you have this pause, do you think they’ll get any relief from those tariffs? And I know that that’s probably a question that would be difficult to answer.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, and I think it would be tough to be that person. You know, Kim, to be honest with you, because imagine trying to run your business and, you know, one day, I will say this, you know, I can only speak anecdotally. That’s how it affects our lives, right? I’ve seen a couple different emails come across my desk from companies that I may have purchased something for previously, whatever it might have been, a gift from my wife, something for my kids. I don’t even remember what they were. And they’d be, you know, they were just trying to explain the quirkiness that’s coming with their business because they’re not sure how to price things. So they’re saying things like when the tariffs kick in, you might see this price increase. If they don’t, we’ll stay with this. So I think it’s been tough to manage because when you’ve got to plan for the tariffs and do something accordingly and then all of a sudden they don’t happen or they get paused and you’ve got to bounce back. So, you know, I don’t know how you manage around that. You know, I’m just kind of glad I don’t do those businesses because I think it would be difficult.
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I think it is difficult. And I know that people are frustrated in the business sector. Certainty is what business likes. And so this uncertainty, I’ve heard from people, they’re a bit frustrated with Trump that support him, but they’re frustrated because of the uncertainty. But yet, I think it’s going to be a little rocky. We were headed over a cliff. We’ve got to remember that. And to try to get this turned around, it’s going to be tough.
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I agree 100%. I think the challenge these people you’re talking about that are frustrated is because of the role of their jobs. Everybody has their job to do, and they react according to how things affect them, right? We talk about that all the time. How does it affect me and my house or my work? And if you’re a CEO of a company and you’re publicly traded on the stock exchange, you’re expected to do things like have your stock price go up, right? Nobody likes a CEO who’s guiding a ship down that’s sinking. You’re also supposed to be able to do something called give guidance. So every quarter you come out and you report how your company did, which is great, but that’s historical news, and you’re supposed to give guidance to say this is what we expect for the next quarter and the one after that. Well, companies are having trouble doing that because they don’t know if the tariffs are going to be there or they’re not, so it’s hard to give guidance, right? And when you can’t give guidance, you almost look like you don’t know what you’re doing. And that ties into that certainty thing, and it makes their job hard, and at some points it makes their stocks go down. And that puts a lot of pressure on these CEOs because they don’t want to lose their jobs. And so all of a sudden it becomes, I totally get what Trump’s doing, I support him, but it’s starting to rock my own boat, and I don’t like that. And that’s what happens, and you can’t blame them because they’re worried about what’s happening in their office.
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But there is the bigger macro thing, and that is that we were headed towards disaster. We’ve got to get this spending under control. We’ve got to get this debt reduced. We’ve got to move back to liberty for everyday people. And I think what we’re talking about is the tension between the macro and the micro, right?
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, and you’re right. I mean, That’s true, Kim. The challenge is if you’re the CEO of this company, whatever company that might be, and you’re seeing this through and you believe in it, but in the meantime your stock is going down and you can’t give guidance, and God forbid, lo and behold, they go to a new CEO and all of a sudden you’re out of your job. And then the country turns around and everything’s great, but you’re still out of a job. That doesn’t work in your micro world, right? Right. The only example I can give you is this happening. I used to be a real estate agent as well, work hawking 15 years ago. And an example would be if you have someone that is listing your house for you and you tell them, I want to sell this house for a million dollars. And they suggest you sell it for $920,000. And you say, no, I want to do it for a million. So they list it for a million. It’s on the market for a few months. Nobody buys it. You fire your agent because you don’t think they’re doing a good enough job. You hire a new agent who says, we should list this for $920,000. You agree with them this time and it sells for $920,000. The original agent didn’t do anything wrong. They just got stuck in a situation that was untenable.
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paid the price for it you know something along those lines would be a similar example okay okay for these ceos you know yeah so we’re in a we’re in a historic time there’s no doubt about it and in that though there is always opportunity and i so believe in home ownership uh instead of paying and if people want to pay rent that’s certainly one thing But from public policy to have housing, again, making housing expensive for home ownership because of public policy, you know that I shed light on that all the time. And I love the idea of people being able to own their own property in order to do so. Getting a mortgage is most of the time necessary, and I would recommend that people give you a call. What’s that phone number, Lorne Levy, to reach out to you for anything mortgages in all of the states except for New York?
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As always, just give us a call at 303-880-8881. Again, that’s Lorne Levy, Everything Mortgages, 303-880-8881. We will talk next week.
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And welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We’re an independent voice. We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something’s a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And we are an independent voice on an independent station searching for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through this lens of freedom versus force. And we do this because of our sponsors. And I so appreciate the Harris family for their gold sponsorship of the show. And it is Wednesday. So it’s a Trent Luce Wednesday. And you know him, sixth generation farmer and rancher lives in Nebraska and for 20 plus years. has been shedding light on the challenges that the people that feed and fuel us, that rural America, rural Colorado are facing. Trent Luce, welcome to the show.
SPEAKER 14 :
Can’t believe another week has gone by, Kim. Thanks for having me.
SPEAKER 07 :
I know, I know. And I have to say, I’ve been a little stressed about the conversation that we’re going to have because you sent over in our text messages a video that you had done just recently regarding some of the stuff with the Trump administration. And I like so many of the things that Trump and company are doing. And yet I want to make sure we’re within this whole our constitution. And so I’ve been a little stressed about this conversation. So let’s jump into it. Let’s talk about it.
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Why are you stressed? You just do what you can every day to fix it.
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Well, I am, but I try to stay on the issues. So let’s go to Pam Bondi. One of the things in your video, you kind of went after Pam Bondi. You said she was an animal rights activist. which I didn’t know. But I also know that she’s taken up the case of my friend Erin Lee regarding their daughter that was being targeted by the Poudre School District on this whole transgender agenda. And so I like Pam Bondi a lot for that. So I think that’s where I’m struggling is I really like this over here and I don’t like this part. And so that’s where I’m stressed.
SPEAKER 14 :
I see that as their clear path of doing enough things that people really love. For example, deporting illegals. If you’re illegal in this country, you don’t belong here. And yet they’re taking that to a whole new level. They’re doing enough things that you really like that you don’t want to dislike where they’re crossing the boundaries of constitutional law. I have personal interactions with Pam Bondi. Pam Bondi was the reason that Greyhound Racing was shut down in Florida. And she was the attorney general at the time. And she partnered with another person that you won’t like the fact it’s Laura Trump, Donald Trump’s daughter-in-law. And when after Pam Bondi and Laura Trump championed and banned Greyhound Racing in the state of Florida, I had state legislators from around the country, like Michigan and different places, that said, I just got a call from Laura Trump. And this is when Donald Trump was still president in the first term. And she said she’s representing the White House, calling, asking me to generate animal rights initiatives as bills into our state statute. Why would she do that? They’ve been working behind the scenes. And by the way, Then what happened after that? Donald Trump signed in his first presidency a signed legislative action which made animal abuse, animal neglect, animal crimes of any type a federal offense. In fact, if you go look at what that federal offense did, it actually gave more punishment to people who neglect their dog than neglect their kid. And that’s all a direct result of what I witnessed and was a part of in Florida. And then I saw this play out and just expand. And Pam Bondi at that time was pulled into the first Trump administration, even though she had duties in Florida, and it was pretty well known how this was all going to play out.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay, so the risk on this, I think we all agree that we shouldn’t abuse animals, right? Absolutely. So how this potentially could play out, so maybe that’s where they’re at, is that we should not abuse animals, but we should also not be aborting children. I just want to mention that. One of the things, I think Dennis Prager said this, I’ll attribute it to him, hopefully correctly, that People that love animals may not necessarily love children, but people that love children typically always love animals as well. I thought that was an important statement that he made. Again, I’m doing that from memory. So we agree we should not abuse animals. And instead of codifying that into law, that should be really more of a cultural thing, that we do not abuse animals. The problem is, then, as I’m trying to connect the dot, as you have this over here, and then you and I have talked about it, regarding what was that potential piece of legislation or initiative that was going to be proposed in Colorado that would consider it… animal abuse to do the husbandry things that our farmers and ranchers do to produce food. So am I connecting that dot? Is that why you’re concerned about this?
SPEAKER 14 :
Absolutely. OK, first of all, this is not about supporting animal abuse. This is about saying that we don’t need a federal crime for an animal abuse case that occurs in Adams County, Colorado. And secondly, when you start making it a federal offense instead of a state or county offense, which it’s perfectly set up now to be a state crime, if you abuse animals, you potentially are going to be charged and convicted, if guilty, in the state. What is the benefit of the federal action? Zero. And what happens when you have the federal action is exactly what you just said. which, by the way, we defeated that temporarily in Colorado, but Oregon has a mirror image of that particular legislation in Oregon, which is a ballot initiative. And that language actually says that it is illegal if this ballot initiative were to pass. It is illegal to consume an animal until it dies a natural death. We have so confused the role of animals and distinguished them between people. People are God’s chosen creature. But he put all of us here to interact. And so to say that the abuse of an animal is a greater crime than the abuse of a human being, I can’t tolerate that.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay. And we are to be good stewards. God says we are to be good stewards of our earth. So as you’re saying this, and I know we need to go to break here, but okay, we’re going to go to break and I’m going to keep this as a cliffhanger. You will not want to miss the next part of this conversation with Trent Luce. All these discussions happen because of our sponsors. I’m so pleased to have the Second Syndicate as new sponsors because they are focusing on bringing these voices together and to support our Second Amendment. And why is the Second Amendment there? So that everyday people can keep and bear firearms to protect ourselves against bad actors.
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SPEAKER 08 :
I miss maybe.
SPEAKER 07 :
And welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at Kim Munson dot com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We’re an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something’s a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And tomorrow is the golf tournament for the USMC Memorial Foundation and Teresa Irby, who is handling our partnership liaison relationships for the Kim Munson Show. She and I will be out there for lunch, and we’d love to have you join us. You can get a lunch ticket by going to usmcmemorialfoundation.org. And I think there’s still a few spots for golfers as well. So check that out there. I’m talking with Trent Luce, sixth-generation farmer and rancher. And, Trent, you did a video earlier this week, Dakota Trails, talking about concerns with some of the Trump appointees. And you’ve had a lot of people that have responded to you on this, yes?
SPEAKER 14 :
I have had a massive number of people respond. Shockingly, not one person chewed me out. You’re the closest thing to that.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay, well, next thing.
SPEAKER 14 :
By the way, I just want to add one other thing before we leave Pam Bondi.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 14 :
As a direct result of Florida shutting down Greyhound Racing, that today there are two tracks still left in existence, both in West Virginia.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, the premise of all that was that the animals were abused. How would you address that?
SPEAKER 14 :
The animals are not abused. Every greyhound has an adoptive home after the fact. The people who raise and breed greyhounds have done a tremendous job at making sure that there is life after the race for these animals. And to say that you somehow abuse them in racing them, this is what dogs do. I have four dogs. I can see two of them at the moment. They’re out and they race all the time. And if there’s a rabbit, boom, they’re off running after it. There is absolutely nothing abusive about the standard operating procedures that of racing. And it’s no different than what you brought up where this is the danger that we’re in, trying to eliminate our food supply. There are people that want to say that simple things like pregnancy testing a cow is abusive. And if that Colorado initiative had come to the forefront and passed, that would have been banned. Artificial insemination would be banned. All of these things, which have been standard operating procedure for generations, would now be considered abuse of the animal, and we cannot allow ourselves to go down that path. And what they did in Florida is absolutely an atrocity, and the place that we are today in elevating the status of animals above that of human beings, and that too is in the Bible.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay. Just one other thing, and this is somewhat facetious, but those that have been so concerned about animal rights, and I have that in air quotes, and want to move us over to eating insects, well, what made me think of this is when you said something about that in Oregon there’s this proposal that we cannot eat an animal until it’s died its natural death. Well, by that time, it doesn’t… It doesn’t probably have as much nutritional value and certainly probably doesn’t taste good. But then would the next thing then be insect rights? Because obviously killing an insect before its natural death would be the same thing. And I know I’m being facetious, your comment on that.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, I think the average fly lives two months, so you’d have to eat it pretty quick. They need to be eating a baby. How are you going to balance that out?
SPEAKER 07 :
Well done. Next thing, two things that came in here. This came in from Jenny. She said, people are morally confused. And so would this abuse extend to prairie dogs that are plague-infested rodents that are destroying our lands? And the answer on that is yes. I know that there’s been times where there’s been proposals for developments for homes or whatever, and it’s been difficult to get that approval because of prairie dogs. So what would you say to that?
SPEAKER 14 :
The most asinine prairie dog thing, and I lived on the Rosebud Reservation for five years. I dealt with prairie dogs every single day of my life when I was there. Every friend I have in ranching spent at least one night in the hospital because a horse stepped in a prairie dog hole. I lived with prairie dogs. But the most asinine thing I’ve ever heard about prairie dog management is that as the front range of Colorado is developing, they actually would take great big vacuums in there, suck the prairie dogs up, put them on a truck, and haul them to eastern Colorado and turn them loose. Now, that’s not beneficial to anybody, and yet they did that in the name of protecting the prairie dog. They took more emphasis in the prairie dog than the people’s places they released them on in the eastern part of Colorado.
SPEAKER 07 :
Which, again, is that’s where people are raising food to feed us. Correct. And so it would make it more difficult for them. Next thing, this came in from another listener. She said she doesn’t really like Pam Bondi. She supported red flag laws in Florida and was also part of the Epstein case as that played out and sat on her hands. I was not aware of either of those things. I’m very familiar with the red flag laws here in Colorado, and I also know that there were Republicans that were in support of the red flag law here, which I was adamantly opposed to, because basically the red flag laws have no due process. Somebody can be accused of something, and they may not even, at least how it worked out here in Colorado, not even know they’ve been accused of something. Law enforcement could come in and take their firearms unbeknownst to them, and then to try to get them back is extremely difficult. So I am pretty anti-red flag laws across the board, and I can’t think of one I would support. I’d have to look at it. And again, I don’t know this about Pam Bondi. You may, of course, the listener that submitted this, she’s very informed. So I do not like that support of the red flag laws.
SPEAKER 14 :
She’s absolutely right. When you start peeling the onion on Pam Bondi, you’re not going to like anything about her, to be honest. I mean, just take that Epstein thing. Everybody was so happy that we got Trump and his team in office. Now we’re finally going to have a discovery on the Epstein files. When’s that going to happen?
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay, good point. Good point. Okay, let’s continue on. And again, Trump, I love what he’s doing regarding immigration. The fact that we have had all these illegals that have come into our country, I think is one of the things is to affect our elections with both putting them in different areas to increase population. And then I’ve been concerned about certainly if we have free, fair, honest, and transparent elections. And so there’s that component. But I love the fact that they’re going after these people that have come into America to hurt us. And so I really do support him on that. And he’s done some really great things regarding getting rid of rules and regulations. So there’s a lot of things I like about him. But you mentioned Doug Burgum. from north dakota and when he was appointed uh now let’s see what’s his position i uh he’s director of interior department of interior okay i had concerns about that because of his relationship with bill gates and so you have concerns about him as well oh i i know doug bergham personally
SPEAKER 14 :
as I do Kristi Noem, and the people of both of those states are so happy to get rid of both of them. It’s just jubilation all over again. And I got a Kristi Noem story that happened over the weekend that’s quite interesting. But Doug Burgum, he sold his business, his Great Plains Software, to Bill Gates and was a vice president of Microsoft for 12 years. Bill Gates was his largest financial contributor in both of his gubernatorial runs. Bill Gates gave him an open checkbook to run for president of the United States. And he is now part of this energy group that they established with EPA director, Department of Energy director, Doug Burgum, Department of Interior, and USDA. And they came out of this four- or two-day meeting in Oklahoma at Oklahoma State University, the Harold Hamm Institute, and said that our number one goal is to be the global leader in artificial intelligence. That completely flies in the face of what they’re doing to disassemble our reliable, sustainable supply of electricity. It is so energy dependent. It is a sucking sound like you’ve never heard before to continue to pursue these artificial intelligence centers. And so day one of Trump’s administration, January 20, 2025, he writes an executive order about a state of emergency for our nation’s energy. And it goes through everything that we agreed to, that we are depleting our reliable supplies of electricity. And then they come up with this plan. His team comes up with this plan to create the most electric intense consumption we’ve ever known demand. It doesn’t make sense. While we have as a nation, we have now slipped below 16 percent of our electricity generated from coal. And we have 800 years worth of coal in the ground where we choose not to use it.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, my understanding, though, is that Trump is saying dig, baby, dig and drill, baby, drill. And so he is.
SPEAKER 14 :
And yet the coal plants are shutting down and nothing is happening. He says that so that people continue to like what he says and what is happening on the ground does not reflect what comes out of his mouth.
SPEAKER 07 :
OK, OK. So what do we do about it?
SPEAKER 14 :
The same answer I have all the time. First of all, we recognize that he is not doing what he said he was going to do. I can’t even find the details of this $600 billion deal he signed in Saudi Arabia. Saudi Arabia has had a plan very openly to be the global leader in fertilizer, the global leader in fuel. And my concern from day one has been that this whole boondoggle of CO2 pipelines to these ethanol plants is literally a Saudi Arabia takeover of our energy supply. And on the day that we have Iowa, which, by the way, we had good news coming out of Iowa this week, by a vote of 27 to 22 in the Iowa Senate, they also passed similar to what South Dakota did, saying that no eminent domain can be used for CO2 pipelines. It’s now waiting for Governor Reynolds to sign that, which I believe is less than a 50% chance she’ll sign it, I think that she’ll veto it. But the same day the Iowa Senate passes this, the Energy and Commerce Committee in D.C. is following up on the Trump executive order for a state of emergency, and they are talking about federalizing all pipelines so that no state can refuse eminent domain. And this flies in the face of what the people want. And I predicted that, Kim. I can actually – I don’t want to sound braggadocious – But I said after about a week of South Dakota passing 1052, which said no eminent domain for CO2 pipelines, I predicted that we would see a federalization of CO2 pipelines and the federal government would tell the states, we don’t care what you say, you’re going to take them. And that is exactly what is happening at every turn. We have a guy running this country like a king instead of representing the will of the people.
SPEAKER 07 :
Gosh, I hope you’re wrong on this. It’s important that we shed light on this. One of the things, you mentioned the word emergency. I was over at the CUT board meeting on Monday night, and I do, very quickly, I’ve got to say thank you to these people because they’re amazing. what they have done during this legislative session, looking at these bills. We’re getting ready to work on our ratings report, which is labor-intensive. We do this for free, and we pay our memberships to do so as well, which is $25 a year. You might think we’re all crazy, but I think that’s what happens with patriots. But we’d love to have you join us. It’s $25, and you can go to coloradotaxpayer.org to do so. But when you see these folks out there, say thank you to Steve Dorman, Greg Golianski, Russ Haas, Bill Hamill, Rob Knuth, John Nelson, Wendy Warner, Marty Nielsen, Ramey Johnson, Mary Jansen, Dave Evans, Corey Onozorg, Paula Beard, and Ray Beard. And Russ came up to me before we started the meeting and he said, do you know what the most dangerous word is from someone in the government? And I was thinking of the Reagan quote, which is more than one word, is I’m from the government and I’m here to help. He said the most dangerous word is emergency. And I think he’s right. We saw that with COVID. And whenever you see the word emergency, and of course, that’s another one of the things that they’ve used down here at the Colorado Statehouse with the safety clause, indicating it’s an emergency, putting that safety clause on so that the piece of legislation cannot be reviewed by the people of Colorado. So whenever I see that word emergency now, I’m going to have big red flags, Trent Luce.
SPEAKER 14 :
Who was the first person in the United States to coin the term emergency with COVID?
SPEAKER 07 :
It was Trump, wasn’t it?
SPEAKER 14 :
Donald Trump.
SPEAKER 07 :
I still think he got played by Fauci.
SPEAKER 14 :
You can think that all day and night, Kim. But he continues to stand up for the jabs that Operation Warp Speed created. I’ve heard him personally. on different freedom calls and still stand by his plan to get everybody jabbed for COVID. He can’t tell me that he’s just being played.
SPEAKER 07 :
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Now, welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at Kim Munson dot com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We’re an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force. Force versus freedom is something’s a good idea. You should not have to force people to do it. And do check out the Center for American Values located in Pueblo. They’re going to have an On Values presentation on May 28th in honor of Memorial Day. And Memorial Day is a time to stop and remember those that have given their lives for our country. And so you can get more information about that event by going to AmericanValuesCenter.org. That’s AmericanValuesCenter.org. So, Trent, several things coming in on the text line. One is regarding, we were talking about Pam Bondi, and she was behind getting greyhound racing stopped in Florida. This listener said, lots of euthanized dogs due to non-performance on the track. Enough for one per two students at a pre-vet school in the 80s. And this person said they only had to share their dog cadaver with From the Loveland track with one other person, perhaps Greyhound Adoption Group stepped in after that. So it sounds like there was something that was abusive. What’s your thoughts, your comments on that?
SPEAKER 14 :
Euthanizing a dog is abusive?
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, but because of non-performance, that seems a little much, yeah?
SPEAKER 14 :
Euthanizing a dog… that then is used in a vet school to learn on students that dog is still providing a valuable use. The question is right. They quit doing that in the 80s. We don’t do a lot of things that we did in the 80s. But you brought up something that I have great concern about. Did you know that there’s only one vet school, Iowa State University, that still uses cadavers for teaching students about real-world experiences? Yes. Every other school, every other vet school uses a simulated model, and you cannot teach with the same degree of precision these vet students with a simulated model. And Iowa State, I’ve been at Iowa State. I’ve spoke to their Iowa State vet school. I’ve been in the lab. I’ve seen how these students excel. They fight every day to keep using cadavers in that vet school to teach students to learn to help other dogs be better and help them heal. That’s part of the process.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay, so a couple of questions. First of all, well, I just have to mention this, and that is I know at least they used to. I think they still do. Hanchu’s Medical Center would use baby body parts for research. I actually saw the invoices for that. So I think that’s important. And then don’t we still use human cadavers in medical school?
SPEAKER 14 :
I can’t speak to that.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, I don’t know the answer. If any of you know the answer on that, let me know. Then this came in from another listener says that they think that you’ve you’ve you’re unhinged. And so I’m trying to give everybody their their voice here. And then another listener said, I so hope that you’re wrong, Trent. But I am concerned that the COVID vaccine has not been banned yet. and growing concerned about that. And then somebody just recently said that, that on the CD schedule for children, that the COVID vaccine is on there, which really concerns me as well. So how, I hope you’re wrong on this. I have to say I was very concerned about this headline I saw the other day that Trump was postulating getting rid of our constitutional right of habeas corpus. And again, over this illegal immigration, I know that Lincoln suspended habeas corpus during the Civil War, and I’m not really comfortable with that either. So I think what it is, is we have a. duty to be vigilant on this. I like a lot of the things that Trump is doing. The things that you’re bringing up, I’m concerned about. So we need to be shedding light on this and make sure that we’re pulling all of our electeds towards the Constitution and towards this American idea, Trent Luce.
SPEAKER 14 :
Scott Bassett is the Secretary of Treasury. Do you know who he worked for before he came to work for Trump?
SPEAKER 07 :
Who?
SPEAKER 14 :
George Soros for 12 years. He was his first lieutenant. and he’s now Secretary of our Treasury. He comes out of the London banking system, but was a direct employee and was his right-hand man. Howard Ludnick, before he became Secretary of Commerce, you know what he did?
SPEAKER 07 :
No.
SPEAKER 14 :
He founded Canton Fitzgerald, which owns 800 different businesses, including NextEra Energy, which is out here in the country, destroying our countryside, placing easements everywhere. and doing things. NextEra is the most ruthless I’ve come in contact with as they continue to build these wind and solar developments around this country. And what do they do that for? For the production tax credits that they get from 45Q. So do you think this Trump team is going to be opposed to these easements for transmission lines, which are a direct result of wind and solar, when his right-hand man, the Director of Commerce, is getting a subsidy to do it?
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay, so bottom line is this goes back to we’ve got to get rid of these tax credits, tax incentives, grants, and that’s across the board. We’ve got to get rid of those. And I did just do a quick search. This is from Wikipedia. It says that Scott Ascent is an American former hedge fund manager. um that he was a formerly a partner at soros fund management and founded key square group a global macro investment firm um and that he in 1991 was hired by soros fund management um i i i that connection is certainly of great concern and so we’ve got to watch what’s going on there and uh Certainly a lot of food for thought. And I think we’ve got a caller. Yes, Joe. Oh, Gammy’s on the line. Gammy, welcome. What’s on your radar? Hi.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay, guys. I haven’t been so well, so I’m not screaming. Trent Luce isn’t crazy. None of us is crazy. Half of the people that are vying for Trump’s position are are connected to bad sorts, and that is why the only hope we have is to go local and control our states, our cities, and make it clear that we’re not going to comply because they are doing jabs still, and they know they’re wrong. Everyone from David Martin on proved this is a bioweapon. But these people are globally trillionaires. They’re not going to let go of the power. So they’re fooling everybody. And it is up to us to do this. because it ain’t going to come from up there. They don’t want us to have control, and they’ll sabotage Trump and me and you and Trent and everybody, because they still have the World Economic Forum agenda, whites, Soros. They are going to kill us. So either we wake up and realize it’s a war for our children and fight, or we’re screwed.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay, Gammy, I appreciate you calling in, and I know it’s a real effort. So I really thank you for doing that. And we have just about a minute left. And this came in. It says, Trent, I’m a huge Trump fan, and I just want to say thank you for being a truth teller. We get so caught up in defending Trump from the Marxist attacks that we can miss these issues, which should hold his feet to the fire. And so, again… That is our responsibility. And there are many things that Trump and company are doing. And I really appreciate him for that. And then the things that that we are concerned about. Yes, I agree. We hold his feet to the fire. 30 seconds, Trent Luce. I appreciate I appreciate the conversation.
SPEAKER 14 :
If something is a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it.
SPEAKER 07 :
I wonder where you have heard that. I am total agreement on that. And tax incentives, tax credits are a form of force. So it’s not a good idea, and so we need to get rid of those. Trent Luce, it’s always interesting. Have a great week, and we’ll talk with you next week.
SPEAKER 14 :
Thanks, Kim. Have a great week.
SPEAKER 07 :
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