In this explosive episode of The Dana Show, Dana takes a blowtorch to the media’s carefully constructed narrative surrounding a chaotic ICE raid in California. What was reported as an innocent strawberry farm raid reveals itself to be a front for a massive illegal marijuana operation using child labor—ten minors, many unaccompanied and here illegally, were found working in shocking conditions. ICE agents served a criminal warrant, only to be met with armed resistance and political outrage—not from the perpetrators, but from California officials like Gavin Newsom. Dana exposes the left’s twisted priorities, the media’s word games, and the
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That report and take a look at this video right here. It appears a protester fired some kind of gun at federal agents. This happened this afternoon. It was a really chaotic scene at the time. A lot of smoke was being launched at the protesters. And again, it appears a protester fired back with that weapon. It looks like he fired at least a couple of times. We have not heard about any agents being hurt.
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Well, I think one of the things that we can say without any hesitation at this point is that Democrats are shooting at ICE agents. And I was told again for the millionth time that this was an insurrection. I noticed the the way that they reported it. Well, looks like it’s some kind of a gun chick. That’s a gun. That dude has a gun. And they were firing at ICE agents. And I’ve watched this clip. I’ve watched like a million of these clips since this happened yesterday. And we’re going to dive into it if you don’t know what the full story was. They raided a marijuana farm. Farm or like, yeah, farm, right? Like a pot farm, I guess. I don’t think that there’s any other word for it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it was really shocking, the people that they took into custody at this place. And we’re going to dive into it because there were kids there. They had children at this thing. And so, you know, I’m… Reading about I’m reading Gavin Newsom’s tweets and all this other stuff and Gavin Newsom is, you know, he’s he’s very upset. He’s out there very upset about all of this for some reason. I don’t know why he’s the one who’s upset because this is they knew that this was happening this entire time. I mean, this farm has been there for from what I understand for quite a while. It’s it’s been there for quite a while. And so I don’t know why they’re the why, you know, he’s he’s not more upset that that was happening and that there was, you know, some kind of that they were literally using child labor at this thing. And we’ll share with you his tweets. We’re also going to jump into some of the latest as it pertains to because we have more immigration issues to discuss as well. And we’re also going to dive into I got some culture. I got some Hollywood for you because apparently there’s going to be a movie or well, a series, I think, made. about the American Revolution. And it’s Ken Burns that’s going to be doing it, and I’m a little concerned. Although I thought he did such a great job with the Civil War documentary back in the day. I have to say I’m a little concerned with what this is going to look like because Hollywood’s changed since that was made. And you don’t know what it’s going to look like. So welcome to the show. It’s Friday. And we’ll get you set up for the weekend. But this is what happened. I’m pulling up a couple of my other stories on this. This is what happened last night. This was in California where they have gun control. Kane, why didn’t the gun control work? I don’t know. They are supposed to have gun control. And they raided this pot farm. And the farm that they raided, I mean, like I said, it’s been there for a little while. They had pulling up this statement from the Customs and Border Commissioner. And they said 10 juveniles were found at the marijuana facility, all of them illegal aliens. Eight of them were unaccompanied. Now they’re under investigation also for child labor violations. So they had 10 children that they found at this place, 10 kids. And they said eight of them were unaccompanied. I was thinking about all of this. And then let me pull up my story. I had to archive it. This is the New York Times piece where… They discussed how there were how many like 100,000 kids that were missing that had been brought in from over. Remember the story that remember the whole story came?
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Well, there’s 300,000 kids missing during the Biden administration.
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Well, this was over. It was somewhere around. The numbers were again because you’re they’re not entirely credible. Because you can’t really trust a lot of the reporting from people coming across the border. So it was anywhere from, I think it was like 238,000 all the way up to like 255,000. And then they said, well, we think that there’s even more with gotaways, etc. But the point is, is they were all children. And I don’t mean like 19-year-old children or 20-year-old children. I mean like 8-year-old children. They were all little kids. And the story that the New York Times did, and this piece was, I’ve shared it with you a million times. So if you’re a subscriber, you got it somewhere. I’ve shared it with you quite a bit. It’s a couple of years old. But it was one of the most honest pieces of reporting. I can’t believe I’m saying this. One of the most honest pieces of reporting ever. uh that we’ve seen any of the kids that they haven’t recovered i kind of fear like went into this child labor situation this is audio somebody three this was trump talking about it listen
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You know, something that you should have that you haven’t reported. As you know, 300,000 children are missing, right? 300,000 under Biden. We’ve already gotten back 10,000 of those children, and we have a lot more planned to come back. We’re getting them back by the thousands. But 300,000, and as of this morning, over 10,000 we’ve gotten back.
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All of these kids. And you remember it was… Was it Alejandro Mayorkas who had said that… he was upset with the different department agencies, and this was under Biden-Harris and the earlier part of Biden’s term. He was upset with these department agencies that were supposed to be dealing with this. He said that they didn’t process these kids fast enough and that Henry Ford would be disappointed. It’s supposed to be like a conveyor belt in terms of the speed with which they just funnel these kids through and release them. And the New York Times had this huge story as to they lost contact with so many of these kids. And the ones that they did find, they would find literally working child labor. They would find them working in factories, et cetera. And a lot of them were going to the same areas because, you know, the cartels have a racket inside the United States where they have set up basically slavery. with people coming across the border, particularly children. And so under Biden-Harris, they completely lost all, they lost like all control of this. They don’t know where anybody is anymore. No, they had no clue. And then these kids started popping up. So is anybody surprised that we’re seeing them there at this thing, at this farm? I mean, they’re wanting to keep illegal child labor. That’s what this is. I don’t know how else you spin this. All of the remarks that I’ve seen about this from the left, from these elected Democrat officials, have been they’re upset because they feel like they’re just targeting people picking strawberries. That’s literally how they have been putting it. Cain, you know, it’s not pot. It’s just strawberries. I mean, it’s a pot farm.
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It’s not labor. It’s just labor.
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Yeah, it’s just they’re there. They said they went and they raided these kids that were just picking strawberries. Wait a minute. Can you be mad about the kids being forced to work for five seconds? Holy cow. They said it was a strawberry farm. It’s a strawberry farm. And it was a pot farm. They were actually serving a criminal warrant that was signed by a federal judge. And then that’s when you had the mob that fired back. And then they had a standoff with them. But they said that the way that it was going, the way that the narrative was that it was picking strawberries. Jimmy Gomez said, quote, how many MS-13 gang members are waking up at 3 a.m. to pick strawberries? Oh, yeah, zero. Trump said he’d go after the bad hombres, but he’s targeting immigrant farm workers who feed America. Yeah, I don’t think so. I mean, that’s incredibly dishonest. It was a criminal warrant being served at a pot farm. It wasn’t a strawberry farm. No one’s frying up pot leaves and eating them like arugula. There’s literally no food that’s being grown at the pot farm. There are no strawberries that are being grown at the pot farm. The only thing that is being grown and farmed at the pot farm…
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This pot.
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That’s it.
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You know what’s funny? Yeah. His actual strawberry farms don’t even claim they’re feeding America.
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Yeah. No one’s feeding America with a strawberry farm. I mean, they’re delicious, but let’s be honest about it. Good night. What are they? I’m like, I’m surprised that they’re not freaking out. Like this was our daycare facility. How dare you raid the daycare facility? Who’s going to pick our weed now? Oh, yeah. Sorry. Strawberries. That explains a lot, though, about some of these Democrats, though. I’m just saying. But I really can I just pause right here? And I don’t mean to, like, stall out over one particular aspect of this topic. I really need someone to explain to me how the pot farm turned into a strawberry farm. Is anybody of any ideas? How in the world does a pot farm turn into a strawberry farm? How did that happen? Where did that come from? Did they just decide, let’s make up something cute and sweet? Strawberries.
SPEAKER 09 :
I don’t know. Aren’t they legally growing it there? The pot? Yeah. So why would they need to cover up the fact that they’re growing it?
SPEAKER 21 :
You’re telling me. I mean, I am pretty sure that there are a lot of Americans that would take the job working at a pot farm.
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Yeah. Seems like it’d be easy.
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I mean, I’m probably sure you would get, so like my mom, when I was a little bitty kid, she worked a number of jobs all at the same time. And she worked over nights at a factory that packaged granola bars for Quaker. And we would get like bags of granola bars. So I’m just saying, I don’t know if they do the same thing at the pot farm, but I’m sure that there’s some people in the country that would work at the pot farm to get the equivalent of that. You know, I’m just saying.
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I’ve already been the beneficiary of Dana’s farm.
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Yeah, well, you haven’t gotten a lot. I’m only giving you, like, and tomato and pepper because I’m waiting for everything else to come in.
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Proportionally, very generous.
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So we’re going to revisit this because we’re not done exploring this topic. And some of the, oh, man, some of the spin that’s happening, it’s pretty harsh. It’s pretty hardcore. So we’re going to dive into all of that. And then we’ve got, what else do we have here? Oh, gosh, I really don’t want to talk about Texas politics. Can we just speed on past that little topic? I would love to. So we’re going to dive into all of that and more as we move. The folks who help bring you the program, it is the people over at Burnout Gun. And I’m always going to tell you to carry. I have no problem carrying. I have no problem using lethal force to protect my life. I do have a problem with… municipal restrictions or private property restrictions that want to disarm me and make me a literal defenseless piece of prey for any kind of predator. But unfortunately, this is you know, we have some people who think that magic that gun free zones are magic and work and they don’t. But long story short, you want to be able to protect yourself when all of your other options have been eliminated. And this is where the burner gun comes in. burner gun shoots chemical irritant projectiles that can disable threats from up to 50 feet away. And unlike regular traditional stun guns, this has like, I mean, they have like maybe one or two rounds. This is five. And they have two different versions. I mean, they’ve got rifles and all kinds of stuff. But for this, I think you need the SD, which is their most popular model. And it’s a pistol. And then the CL, which is like, you know, a compact pistol. It stands for compact launcher. And it is a small I mean, it’s like similarly sized to a smartphone, but it packs the same deterrent power that the SD does. Super affordable. But here’s the kicker. No background checks, no waiting periods, no permits, doesn’t care about gun free zone signs or any of that stuff. It’s great for college kids that aren’t old enough to carry, but yet are still living on their own in a different town and going to school and have to be out and about. And it can be shipped directly to your door, so it’s accessible for everybody. You can visit Burna.com slash Dana. Get your hands on the new Burna C-L-B-Y-R-N-A. Burna.com slash Dana. Ready when you are.
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And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It’s time for Dana’s Quick Five.
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This is some story. It’s the Daily Star, so it’s a British paper. A fabled 60s folk rock band that took charts by storm outed as an AI-generated group. So this was done on Spotify, and they were called Velvet Sundown, and they acted like it was like a group from the 60s. I mean, you can kind of look at it. I’m sorry. I could look at the image, and I’m like, that’s AI. You look like A.I. because it just doesn’t look nice. It doesn’t look right. It doesn’t look real. They released their debut album, Floating on Echoes. And then they like a million followers on Spotify. And then now everyone’s like, oh, my gosh, it came out that it was they don’t actually exist. And everything was done with A.I. Like the imagery, the music, everything was done using A.I. And I hate everything. This is first off. Of course, they did it with a dirty hippie band. Of course they did. Right. Of course they did. You look at the photo and you’re like, that’s A.I. generated. Yeah. How do you not look at that and not realize that it’s AI? That’s AI.
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That’s a picture from the 60s.
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Those people look like they’re from the 60s. That man on the bottom right, his hair, he is like, does not have a, none of them have a 60s vibe. There’s all a modernity about it that makes it. And the fact that it’s AI is doubly gross. But I feel like all the people who got swindled by it deserve to be. Because it’s what you get when you listen to 60s folk rock. I’m going to mess this up. Could psilocybin… Oh, great.
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Did I do it?
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That’s perfect. I did it. Is it the magical ingredient for a shorter life? According to one study, it says yes. Now, that doesn’t mean that you go trip off your beans on shrooms. That’s not what that means. But they said that they were looking at the… I’m not going to get into the super specificity of it, but there’s basically a chemical that they were looking at which could actually be used to Increase longevity. Yes. So that’s, it’s not like they’re telling everyone to go out there and start. I don’t even know how, would you just eat the shroom? What do you do with it? Okay, good. Okay, non-drug question, or like drug question from a non-druggy. Do you like cook them? Like do you stir fry them? Would you grill them like you would a portabella? Or do you just like eat them?
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No, I don’t think it’s like the food mushrooms.
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I’ve never even seen one. Yeah. Like the baddies.
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I think some of them are so powerful you have to have much, much smaller amounts. Oh, could you? Can’t be stir-frying a portabella and it being one of those psilocybin type things.
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Oh, okay. I was just curious. But yeah, they said that they think that there is, there’s a compound within it. that can contribute towards extending lifespan. So that’s what it’s about. We had the Amazon package yesterday. 3 in 10, we had this one too. And the robot that performed the surgery. Yeah, we had also that as well. We were talking about the Ken Burns. We’ll come up with that here shortly and dive into all of that. We have a lot more on the way, including getting into some of the latest with Democrats in New York. We also have Greece that is now enforcing immigration law. What? I know. It’s very weird. So we’re going to dive into all of that and more coming up on the Dana Show. Stick with us. It is our friends over at Super Beats, their product, Super Breen. You can get it at, I mean, you can like, it’s from the same people who do the Super Beats hard shoes. And now they have the Super Breen. You can walk into a Sam’s Club and get it. and it’s less than a dollar a day. You can invest in metabolism and blood sugar support. And that’s what Superberine does. It’s not just any berberine that they use either. I mean, this is a, it’s like a bougie berberine, if I’m being honest, but there’s a reason. It’s clinically studied. It delivers nearly 10 times higher absorption than standard berberine. And they accomplish this in a number of different ways. They make it to where it’s a higher absorption and It’s concentrated, so you’re getting all of the goodness in just one easy-to-swallow capsule. And if you’re worried about GI distress, Super Bering includes grapeseed extract that improves, adds for greater tolerability as well. You can find both the new Super Bering for your metabolism and blood sugar and the number one best-selling Super Beats Heart Chews all at Sam’s Club. Restock your heart health support with the Super Beats Heart Chews and expand your routine with Super Bering for healthy metabolism and blood sugar support.
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People are welcome to protest. They have their First Amendment rights, but they can’t cross that line. They can’t impede us from doing our job. That’s a felony. They certainly can’t put hands on an agent. That’s a felony. So what happened in California is just another example of protesters becoming criminals. And they’ve been emboldened by even members of Congress who compare ICE to Nazis and racists and terrorists. I mean, the rhetoric is so high. And I said two months ago, it’s going to end up with a loss of life. And we had one the other day in Texas.
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Well, yeah. I mean, and now this is the stuff that we’re seeing. That’s Tom Homan. They have to literally arrest 7,000 illegal aliens a day. That is crazy math. Yeah. I mean, man, that’s 7,000 a day. Okay, hear me out. So instead of, like, video games, let’s have, like, Drone Watch, a civilian program that just, like, you know, monitors the border so no one else comes in. And then we assist. Just saying. Then we assist. Yeah. border patrol and ice and you know catching some bad hombres also why isn’t there like a really cool like alternative country western band called bad hombres like why doesn’t that exist just had that it’s friday so thoughts are flying uh welcome back to the program i think we got everything in all our ducks in a row here the um This was this is in Ventura. So this was more footage from this ICE raid. And again, it wasn’t they were serving a criminal warrant that was signed by a federal judge. But this is the raid. This is more footage from it. And people were like they were having a standoff. So it’s not like ice. We’ve got to make this clear. Ice didn’t just roll in and was like, let’s start tear gassing everybody. They didn’t do that. That’s not how it worked. They rolled in. People were hostile. They were attacked and they responded. It’s like typically how cause and effect works. You know what I’m saying? And then they had all these kids that they you see some kids in the background. They’re running away. Oh, my gosh. Then you have these kids that were that were in trouble that because I don’t even they can’t even confirm if they were brought there with family members or not. That’s another thing no one in the media is talking about. They can’t even confirm. And they were asked this. I saw this on X. They they can’t even confirm that the kids that were brought in or that that were there were even there with like family members or people that they know. They know they have no idea. These kids might just have been like sold already. To this pot farm, whoever’s running it, and that’s how it’s working. They just have no choice in it. They’re just chattel. This is unreal. I retweeted a couple of things. Well, actually, I responded to Gavin Newsom. Because Gavin Newsom has, this is pretty unbelievable. He’s been, he was the one saying that it was despicable that this is happening. He was criticizing POTUS for some reason. I have no idea why. And then I’ve seen some Democrats go, well, he should be focusing on what’s happening in Texas and not this. These are, I mean, real tweets from these actual people. I wanted to pull this one up. So he had tweeted about this. I guess he’s not having a great, he’s not having a good day. Gavin Newsom’s not having a good day. He had tweeted, where did I respond to it? bear with me. X is slow today. Everything is nuts. But he had, he was, he was tweeting to it. He was tweeting about it saying, I condemn any assault on law enforcement. Oh my gosh. I can’t actually, we almost read that. I can’t read that one. He, he basically called someone a, um, A feces poster, a fecal poster. He called Libs of TikTok a fecal poster because Libs of TikTok had shared a video showing one of the illegal aliens pulling a gun on the ICE agents. And Newsom tweeted, quote, of course, I condemn any assault on law enforcement, you fecal poster. Now to January 6th. OK, first off, this was attempted murder, not just assault. This is so insane. It I mean, it was attempted murder, pulling out a gun and trying to shoot and murder a federal agent. That’s not just mere assault. Also, is it befitting of his office to refer to people as fecal posters? Is it is it is that good for Gavin Newsom to do that for him to refer to them as such? And also, let’s talk about January 6th. Let’s do that. Let’s talk about January 6th. Because January 6th, the only person that pulled out a gun was a Capitol Police officer who fired it indiscriminately into a crowd of people. He violated the number one rule of firearm safety, which is know your target and what’s behind it. He had no clue what was behind his target. He was just going to try to shoot and kill Alicia Babbitt, which he successfully did. And the left finally discovered a police shooting that they loved. And they celebrated him for it and gave him awards and all of this. That was the only person who had a gun drawn on them and who was killed. So if he wants to compare this to January 6th, okay, I’m your huckleberry. Let’s take that. Because this is worse than anything ever for January 6th. Are you kidding me? This is worse than anything imaginable. Look at all of the attacks on ICE agents recently. And they’re going after their families? So the left went ahead and said it. They decided to they decided to equivocate. So I’m just going to go ahead and say that this is I mean, it is it’s like way it’s worse than January 6th. And here’s the other thing. The guy who drew down on the ICE agent, he’s just running out there free and loose. The FBI wants to give $50,000 to anybody that has information about the guy who opened fire on these federal agents. They want to give out a $50,000 award for it because they don’t have him in custody. It was the U.S. District Attorney for the U.S. Attorney for Central District of California. They said the FBI is offered a $50,000 award for for information leading to the conviction of this unknown suspect who fired a pistol at law enforcement officers. I’m not going to say appeared to fire a pistol because he had a gun in his hand and he fired the damn thing. Look how cautious media is being right now. That’s a whole other aspect of the story. Well, he may have a shooting instrument. But if you are. even suspected of not being a Democrat and you have a firearm, then you have a full-on, high-clip capacity, super shooty assault machine that runs on unicorn juice. I don’t know. That’s what they say. They just run with it. But when it’s an illegal alien, they’re like, well, he appears to be raising an object and it appears to be doing something. Well, that is a gun that he has, you butthats. That’s a gun. Why are they being so cautious with this? For the love. These are the people who said, oh gosh, what was the kid in Wisconsin? Rittenhouse. Yeah, Kyle Rittenhouse. They were trying to say Kyle Rittenhouse was just indiscriminately killing black people. And he wasn’t. He literally was like shooting at white pedophiles that were trying to attack him. I mean, I’m not just saying white pedophile. Literally one of them went to jail for it. So it’s not just like, you know, hyperbole. This is the media that anytime they hear anything, they immediately about involving a firearm, they immediately want to condemn everybody who supports the Second Amendment as being somehow culpable in mass murder. But with this, a precious illegal alien at a pot farm? No, this dear sir was just raising an object, Kate. It appeared to be a gun, but we’re stupid reporters. We don’t know because of politics. So, and Newsom is not mad that an angry, violent mob tried to obstruct justice. Wait, does it sound familiar? Because that’s what they accused people of on January 6th. He’s not mad that there was an angry mob at a pot farm and they had child laborers and that they were facing off against ICE agents. No, no, no, no, no. He’s mad at Trump. And he said, quote, Trump calls me new scum, but he’s the real scum. Oh, my gosh. This is like the worst thing. Like rat beef ever. So boring. Same thing back and forth. The most unimaginative. He’s the real scum. Says what he he says, quote, instead of supporting the businesses and workers that drive our economy and the way of life, these tactics evoke chaos, fear and terror. Wait, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. What tactics? The tactic of human trafficking? The tactic of selling fentanyl to our communities? The tactic of literally forcing child labor? What tactics particularly are you talking about here? This is Strawberry Fields. They act like it’s a damn Beatles song.
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Strawberry Fields forever. But they’re just picking strawberries, Kane.
SPEAKER 21 :
Yeah, okay, sure, sure. This is what they’re upset over. Rodney Scott, who’s Customs and Border Protection Commissioner, he was the one who said, yeah, breaking 10 juveniles were found at this facility, all of them here illegally. So Newsom is upset. He’s like, well, they’re just tearing children away from families. Where? Before they traffic them across the border to go work illegally at pot farms? At what point do you get upset over that? Right? Jeez. This could have… Can you imagine if an ICE agent would have been killed and then they would have had to open fire to defend themselves? Can you imagine? Dear heavens. At some point, the luck on this is going to run out, guys. This is… It’s just… It’s horrific. Now, in addition to this, speaking of ongoing immigration, I’ve got a couple of other issues about this for you. So, this… It’s not a strawberry field as we’ve discovered. It’s not that at all. And then you I’m sure that there’s going to be more of these happening because when you get a criminal warrant, you can go serve that criminal warrant. It’s not the same thing as a raid. So I’m sure we’re going to see more of these instances and I’m sure we’re going to see you already had Democrats that were meeting at town hall saying that people need to be more violent in response to this stuff. So they’re trying to agitate as much as possible. They would love to parlay this into some kind of momentum for midterms. That’s the scary thing about it. In the meantime, in New York, they’re struggling to absorb some of the cuts. They act like it’s a big, giant cut. It’s not. But there are some. The bill that the Medicaid programs, because states are being required to step up where it concerns Medicaid so that we’re not paying for the stupid programs that New York is doing. The budget chief for Democratic Governor Kathy Hochul was warning that the state is going to suffer a $750 million hit this year because of cuts to the essential plan that take effect on January 1st. They said that amounts to a $3 billion annual cut when the state’s new fiscal year starts on April 1st. They said no one’s prepared to backfill that $3 billion in cuts from Congress. So they did not spend money wisely, and they demand that U.S. taxpayers foot the bill for $3 billion and… The difference. Oh, boy. And the essential plan, people who are they said that it covers one point six million low income New Yorkers who are eligible for Medicaid and it relies on billions of dollars in federal funding. Guess who takes advantage of that essential plan? Yeah, illegal aliens. That’s the other part of it, that they’re not telling anyone. They wanted to shift and put people on this benefit program. Now, they were trying to say, well, they’re not generally eligible for it, but they have been signed up for it. There have been news stories on this. So this idea that they have not been that they have been excluded from it is false. We have more on this coming up. We also have days of these United States on the way as we roll towards the conclusion of this first hour. Our partners that bring you the program, Alio Capital. This is such a great use of AI, like the way that AI should be used with the next generation investing platform. They put control and macro strategy in your hands and create smart, resilient portfolios with it. Now, how they do this is Alio uses AI and top-down macro thinking to help you build a strong portfolio without the jargon and the hype and all this stuff. They’re not going to do meme stocks. It’s just going to be actual, durable, diversified strategies. And you can see the big picture and know how that affects… uh, you know, your portfolio real time. I mean, you can see it act in real time, a shift to inflation rates, global risk, and Alio supports both hands on and hands off investors. So you can manage your own investment or you can let AI handle it. Alio gives you all of the tools that you need for smart, confident, macro driven investing. And so this is a such a, it’s such a great way to do this. And the people who created it use this. I mean, I’ve created an account. I And that’s what adapts it to all of these real-time shifts. It’s so super smart and really one of the best ways to use AI. Take control of your financial future today. Download the Allio app from the App Store or Google Play. You can also text my name, Dana, to 511-511. That’s A-L-L-I-O, Allio Capital. Download the Allio app or text Dana to 511-511 today.
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SPEAKER 08 :
Like sands through the hourglass, so are the days of the United States.
SPEAKER 12 :
They’re always hedging, you know, because in the back of our minds, we weren’t raised with the certainty of maleness that, you know, kind of the confidence that young men in their 30s have, which they haven’t earned. They just have it. We don’t start feeling that and owning that until our 50s and 60s at a time when we start to be treated as invisible in society. What is she talking about?
SPEAKER 21 :
Who the hell sits down and is like, I’m going to devote an hour of my life to the Michelle Obama podcast. Everybody’s got a podcast these days. Jiminy Christmas. Welcome back to the show. What is this phrase? What did she say? Sorry. Certainty of maleness. What does that even mean? What does it even mean? We weren’t raised with the certainty of maleness. Like, what is uncertain about it?
SPEAKER 09 :
I think they mean fatherless homes, maybe?
SPEAKER 21 :
No, that sounds smart.
SPEAKER 09 :
Certainty of maleness would be a father in the home, right?
SPEAKER 21 :
I mean, that’s what you would think, but that’s probably not what they’re talking about because that sounds intelligent.
SPEAKER 09 :
Oh.
SPEAKER 21 :
Who pays her to do this? Who’s like, I want to have somebody who’s actually, like, not even mid-Oprah. Sit here and just run about the certainty of maleness. Like, what is the audience for this? Who sits and listens to that? It’s she just it’s her delivery. Her words aren’t any different from Kamala Harris’s. It’s just her delivery. Her delivery is better. And so it makes you think for a minute. Wait a minute. Maybe it’s not word salad. No, but it is. It’s word salad. It’s like the Southern Baptist preacher speaking technique. you know, by the way, you can’t get mad at me. I was raised Southern Baptist, uh, where you, you know, you are dramatic and you can say, you know, you deliver things like that. It sounds authoritative and like, you really know what you’re talking about and very important. And you could just be reading, you know, Kraft Mac and cheese box. And it’s, you know, sounds like really impressive. I just yeah, I’m pretty sure we were raised. I mean, if you weren’t raised with the certainty of maleness, then you were brainwashed abusively. So if you had no concept of the certainty of maleness, what is that? I don’t even understand what these words mean that she when she strings them together like this. Like, you didn’t know that men existed? Or you did, but you still questioned it? That sounds like a you problem. That’s not a societal problem. That sounds like a you being confused problem. You being raised wrong problem. That’s what it sounds like. I don’t know. Is this her own podcast, or is she a guest on someone else’s?
SPEAKER 04 :
I think it’s hers. It’s hers. Yeah, it’s IMO. IMO, which means In My Opinion, I think.
SPEAKER 09 :
Right. But also, I’m Michelle Obama. Oh, my gosh. That’s so bad. Oh, good catch, Kay.
SPEAKER 21 :
That’s so bad. Oh, that’s right. Yeah. You know that they thought that they probably focus grouped it then. But we weren’t raised with a certainty of maleness. Yeah, we pretty much were. Why is there all of this questioning over it? I mean, it’s science. Why are there all these questions?
SPEAKER 09 :
Also, how are they so certain they’re against toxic masculinity or masculinity in general if they can’t also admit there is and be certain of masculinity?
SPEAKER 21 :
I don’t believe in toxic masculinity, but I absolutely believe in toxic femininity. It’s the third and fourth wave matriarchal society. I mean, I’m going to tell you, gents, nobody dislikes them bitches more than, you know, the chicks who are not that, okay? Like, nobody dislikes them more. We got our second hour coming up. We got some fun guests for you today as well. Danny Boy O’Connor is going to be joining us. He was in House of Pain, but he’s also a major, major fan of The Outsiders. We got a lot of stuff to discuss. Stick around. The folks at Angel Studios, we often talk about the lack of quality and the quantity that comes out of Hollywood. And how everything is, it’s not just that it’s rehashed, it’s that everything seems like a denouncement of you and your way of life. We were just talking about how Superman, for instance, is basically a destruction of American exceptionalism. Hollywood still doesn’t get it because they’re still doing stupid things. Angel Studios knows this, and this is why it was created. Angel Studios has amazing titles that they are distributing. And they are not just making movies. They’re creating not just experiences. They’re also reminding everyone of American exceptionalism with every film. And they’re proving that great entertainment can be both meaningful and fun for film goers of all ages. And you can help them in this mission. You can become a premium member of Angel Studios Guild. Join a million Americans that have done so. And when you do that, you get tickets to every theatrical release. Free streaming, you get all kinds of stuff. You also get to weigh in on what is being made and the timeline of how it’s released. So you get to help green light films and direct what you want entertainment to look like. This is huge. And they have so many different titles, something to stand for with micro they have sound of hope. They have Sound of Freedom, Green and Gold. They’ve got all kinds of stuff. They also have King of Kings based on Charles Dickens’ story, which is a great animated feature for families. You can visit angel.com slash Dana. Join over a million Americans taking back control of entertainment. Join the Angel Guild and help fund the future of storytelling that reflects your values. And don’t forget, premium members get free theater tickets, ad-free streaming, and much more. That’s angel.com slash Dana.
SPEAKER 17 :
What about concerns from some of your Jewish colleagues in particular about him not outright condemning the phrase, globalize the Intifada, in a recent interview? Some of your Jewish colleagues have said that that could be very disturbing, potentially dangerous. Do you agree with that?
SPEAKER 01 :
You know, there’s no candidate in this party that I agree 100 percent of the time with, to be honest with you. There’s things that I don’t agree with Mamdani that he said. But at the end of the day, I always believe, as a Democratic Party chair in Minnesota for the last 14 years and now the chair of the DNC, that you win through addition. You win by bringing people into your coalition. We have conservative Democrats. We have centrist Democrats. We have labor progressives like me. And we have this new brand of Democrat, which is the leftist. And we win by bringing people into that coalition. And at the end of the day, for me, that’s the type of party we’re going to lead. We are a big tent party. Yes, it leads to dissent and debate. And there’s differences of opinions on a whole host of issues. But we should celebrate that as a party and recognize at the end of the day, we’re better because of it.
SPEAKER 21 :
How many times is he going to say that? At the end of the day? At the end of the day? At the end of the day? How many times is he going to say, at the end of the day? This is the DNC chair, Ken Martin. This is the DNC chair. They cannot even condemn the guy who is endorsing Globalize the Infantata. And that’s that man, Zoran Mamdani. Welcome back to the program. Dana Lesh with you, top of the second hour. They can’t even disavow that. And his excuse is, well, you know, it’s a big tent party. It’s a big tent party. Man, that’s a hell of a tent that you got there, Ken. Hell of a tent. Yeah, we got, you know, we got Democrats. We got these new Democrats called leftists. He actually said that. That was a sentence that came out of his mouth as he was trying to sound intelligent. I’m dying to death right now. Wow. So the big tent includes like people who are terrorists, then people who are like globalize the infantata, because we all know what that means. So I don’t think that there is a limit to how far they can go. The left, if I’m being honest about this. This is pretty wild that that’s what your party includes. Well, you know, it’s just a big tent. We’ve got, you know, these these you don’t have any conservative Democrats. Who are the conservative Democrats in the Democrat Party? OK, he doesn’t count. He’s the only one. He’s he’s more Republican than he is Democrat anymore. Good night. They don’t have conservative Democrats in their party. They don’t have any. They have none. So what does that mean? It’s just a big tent party. You know, we got these Democrats and we got left this new Democrat called leftist. It’s like a South Park skit, Kane.
SPEAKER 09 :
So their tent is so big they they invite people and shoot at law enforcement and who are violent and burn buildings.
SPEAKER 21 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 09 :
So that’s how big their tent is.
SPEAKER 21 :
We’re a big party, so we can have people who want to rob Israel off the map. Globalizing infantata.
SPEAKER 09 :
I suggest they rethink it or their tent’s going to burn down.
SPEAKER 21 :
I bet he thinks that infantata means baby tots, like tater tots. Right? Are those the kind of tater tots for babies?
SPEAKER 09 :
Is it the intifada? Right? Isn’t that how it is? It’s not the infantata.
SPEAKER 21 :
Dude, these are people who say, wait, Bogota, right? These are the Bogota people. These are the Nordstrom pipeline people. Right? So, of course, you have, you know, the Bernie. Do you not have me up?
SPEAKER 23 :
Clothing for babies.
SPEAKER 21 :
My awesome soundbite? Yeah, yeah. Okay, good. I was real upset over that one. I was leading you down the pathway to this.
SPEAKER 23 :
They are selling what’s called onesies. These are little things. Clothing for babies.
SPEAKER 21 :
Crazy. The infant, they’re tots, they’re tighter tots, but for infants. That’s what he probably thinks. Probably. That’s what Ken Martin thinks. How in the world is, how do you, how are you asked, do you condemn the phrase globalize the infantada? And then you go, well, we’re a big tent party. What in the Pawn Stars hell is that? Best I can do is this. What is that? Good night. And of course, he’s real mad. He goes, well, I’ve never condoned the phrase. Okay, well, you’ve never said that it doesn’t belong in your party. You’ve never said that. The infantada literally means suicide bombings. Globalizing it means bringing terror everywhere. You absolute butt mitten. That’s what it means. It means bringing the terror everywhere. He was asked specifically as to whether or not someone who espouses that is not just welcome in the party, but is welcome to be a leader within the party. And he’s trying to dodge it. He’s trying to do a Mott Bailey and say, well, no, no one lacks this phrase. That’s not what you’re actually being asked. No one’s asking you whether or not you support or condemn the phrase. They’re asking you whether or not you believe that someone who endorses that ideology not only is welcome in your party, but is welcome to be a leader within your party. And he can’t answer that because he knows he can’t. What is he going to say? Oh, I don’t think man Danny belongs here. I don’t think anybody he doesn’t. He’s not said that at all. Even on social media, he’s been really careful with how he said it. He has never at once said that it has no place in the party. He’s just talking about rhetoric. This is more than rhetoric. This is like from the river to the sea kind of stuff. This is way more than rhetoric. This has to do with whether or not, again, you believe that that ideology obliterating an entire people is something that is welcome for a leadership position within the Democrat Party. And going by what Ken Martin is saying here, it is. It is. That’s what it sounds like to me. But he’s trying to he’s trying to muddle muddy the waters here a little bit so that he doesn’t have to actually answer that. I mean, that’s exactly what that phrase means. And so this this is who this party is. So are you surprised when you see the stuff that you saw in California and Ventura, California with the pot farm? Does it surprise you? No. Doesn’t really surprise you, does it? Doesn’t surprise me either. It’s not very surprising. This is who they are. This is deflection. Well, it’s just a big party. But they need these people as agitators to get out the vote. So they have to spin these. They have to spin it like this. What else are they going to get people to come out and vote for for midterms? Think about this for a whole just for a second before we move on. What are they going to get people to come out and support their party for for during midterms? Putting illegal aliens on Medicaid? That’s not going to go over very well. Most people believe in enforcement of current immigration law. They don’t want people coming over the border illegally. So what are they going to lure people in on? And apparently Mexico, they’re saying now, is turning against U.S. immigrants. They said there’s anti-gentrification protests targeting Americans in particular have erupted in Mexico City and others. They’re mad because they say locals are being priced out of trendy neighborhoods. Are really that many people moving there, Cain? I’ve always wanted to go and visit because for the food and the, you know, archaeology, the sites and all that. But otherwise, I don’t know. I don’t want the cartel business.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah. I mean, there is a, you know, I think there’s an aesthetic to being off grid, which a good portion of Mexico is. So I guess maybe that’s what they’re attracted to.
SPEAKER 21 :
But no, I just wouldn’t literally want like tamales and tequila.
SPEAKER 09 :
That’s like, yeah, that’s also a plus.
SPEAKER 21 :
yeah i but i mean are there that many people but i’ve seen this happening everywhere but now they’re really hyping it up as like punishment for the ice stuff here in the united states like yeah well mexico doesn’t like you and naturally we’re seeing the media run with these narratives yeah they said um like like listen to this is from the times not new york times but just the times it says quote
SPEAKER 20 :
Days earlier, a mix of Mexicans and foreigners were sipping on flat whites in this trendy Mexico City neighborhood last Friday when an anti-gentrification protest descended upon them. The Starbucks customers hit the floor as a group of the protesters turned violent, throwing chairs, smashing windows, looting snacks. People brandished signs reading expat equals gentrifier and Gentrification is colonization. I got a question.
SPEAKER 21 :
Why do they speak Spanish? These anti-colonization protesters in Mexico, why do they speak Spanish? So intriguing. I’m just, you know, why? Why do you guys speak Spanish and not something else? Maybe maybe it’s because you are a colonizer. Maybe that’s why I’ve never seen people that don’t know the history of their own nation. Fascinating. You guys are colonizers, they said, while speaking Spanish and worshiping the same gods that the Spanish conquistadors worship when they brought them to Central America. I’m just saying that’s kind of how it goes. It’s just it’s like it’s like chicken saying down with chicken nuggets. I don’t know. I doesn’t make any sense. But there’s this whole thing on it. They’re talking about, oh, my gosh, they’re so upset. They’re so upset. The the restrictions and they the high quality of life and moving into these areas. It’s maybe then ask about your government. Ask why your government makes things difficult. Ask why you have high crime rates because of cartels. Instead of getting mad at the nation that’s tolerated this nonsense for as long as it has. I mean, you are literally you are you’re a colonizer. You are the product of colonization and you’ve continued to colonize. You continue to colonize by speaking Spanish. You continue to colonize by practicing Christianity. You continue to colonize. If you want to have a discussion about colonization in Mexico, then let’s talk about literally everything that you do. That is an offshoot of a culture that conquered you and brought all of this stuff to your land. I’m so tired of this stuff. That is the story of humanity all across the world, by the way. The conquered and the conquerors. That is it. No one feels sorry for you. Stop. If you want to change your government, then get the cartels out of the way and stop snorting cocaine. There’s an idea. So stupid. Golly, we live in the dumbest era ever. Now, in addition to this, there’s more. Because we’ve got I wanted to touch on this really quickly. I mentioned this before we go to headlines because this is fascinating. This Greece is Greece of all countries. They’ve decided that they’ve had enough with the unfettered illegal immigration coming from North Africa. And so apparently they’re suspending all asylum applications. According to the great prime minister, they said that the path to Greece is closed. The messages to all traffickers and all their potential customers, the money they will spend will be entirely wasted. So they. I mean, this is pretty amazing. France needs to do the same. Spain needs to do the same. Spain’s all socialists. They need to do the same. But they’re doing this. Greece has had enough of it. So this is probably I’m sure that there’s going to be arguments from other European nations over this. But they said that it’s a temporary suspension using the same legal basis that the government applied during the previous crisis back in March 2020. They said it’s necessary because they said and they also added that anyone who’s entering the country illegally will be arrested and detained. And. Then they also had Greeks leaders speaking per the EU, and they said there’s going to be a reaction from the EU on this. The EU wants chaos. The EU is specifically designed to destabilize the area. I do not believe that the EU has brought any kind of benefit to Europe at all whatsoever. It has brought so much destabilization under the guise of bringing all of this goodness and trade, et cetera, et cetera. Look at the destruction that it has wrought. for that was it a worthy trade because there are nations that don’t think so clearly because they’re bucking the immigration regulations and then you add the uk that left entirely we got a lot more on the way as we uh power towards headlines and the folks who make it happen relief factor is the partner they help people manage everyday aches and pains especially if you don’t want to be hung up on prescription medication so this can be very beneficial for you to have the relief from relief factor and they make it super easy for instance the ingredients that they use turmeric omega-3 fatty acids resveratrol is all designed to target inflammation and support joint health and it’ll help you get back to your daily activities without constant discomfort if you deal with inflammation if you deal you know like you know like for instance my husband he had um I had an old sports injury and he was able, you know, he’s able to manage all of that with Relief Factor and be able to lift without, you know, worrying about anything. It’s 100% drug-free, all developed to support your body’s natural healing process. So don’t stay stuck living with pain. Try Relief Factor’s three-week quick start for just $19.95, less than a dollar a day. And you can support a veteran-owned company and see the difference for yourself. Visit relieffactor.com or call 1-800-4-RELIEF. That’s 1-800-4-RELIEF.
SPEAKER 09 :
And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It’s time for Dana’s Quick Five.
SPEAKER 21 :
So a lot of people now are saying that Joni Ernst is the next GOP senator on retirement watch. She’s a two-term senator from Iowa. She hasn’t announced her plans for 2026. She’s gone through the motions of launching another campaign. She’s hired somebody to manage it, all this stuff, reports Politico. And she’s announced her annual fall fundraiser. But there are a lot of people saying that she might retire then run for re-election. So that would give Republicans, they said, another seat to defend. But honestly, that district is going to be red. That’s going to be a red district. So it’s not like they’re really going to have to defend it. They just have to get like a really it’s where the primary is the general, basically. But they have never said they’ve never said definitively that she’s going to run again. So I think if she hasn’t already gone on, I mean, just compare it to John Cornyn, like John Cornyn’s gone all in. If you haven’t gone all in already and have said unequivocally that you’re running, then you’re not going to be running, especially for it like Senate, because they’re trying to maintain control. that tiny, tiny, tiny little majority that they have there. Canada is seeing U.S. asylum claims surge as both nations are strengthening their border security, which they ought to. I mean, that just makes sense. But they’re seeing… An increase in these asylum applications. And this is according to well, it’s according to a couple of different things, including Bloomberg. But they said that it’s increased in the past, you know, in the past year. But why would anybody be seeking asylum in the United States or in Canada from the US? I don’t know. That’s the big question. Detectives are baffled. After a man in Australia stole 53 right foot shoes from a store, from a business. He put them in big old duffel bags. They’re trying to track him down. I don’t know. First off, how hard was it? How hard is it to track down the guy? It was at 730 at night. How hard is it to track down a guy who takes the time to take only right foot shoes, shove them in a duffel bag and then wheel them, wheel them, literally wheel them through the mall? How difficult is that? They were placed on tables in the middle of a common area of a shopping center. And he’s caught on CCTV. He didn’t really make an effort to kind of hide himself. He just, you know, had a hat on and that was about it. But yeah, they 53 right foot boots. Is this going to be a sad story of like a Tiny Tim kind of character at home that only has like one right leg? I don’t know. Coming up, our friend Carol Roth joins us. Stick with us. If you’ve noticed dry skin or changing texture that comes with time, you’re not alone. And that’s exactly what One Skin is here to help with. Healthy skin starts at the cellular level. Taking care of your skin isn’t just about looks. One Skin’s topical supplements make it easy for you to do something practical for your skincare. They’re designed by a team of women scientists, and they use the proprietary OS01 peptide to target the root cause of aging, which is cellular sin sense, also known as zombie cells. These cells slow down collagen and hydration, making your skin weaker. OneSkin’s OS01 peptide is clinically proven to reduce wrinkles, boost hydration, and help strengthen thinning skin. Plus, they have over 4,000 five-star reviews for their face, body, sun, and travel products. Visit OneSkin.co now and enter promo code DANASHOW to get started today with 15% off. That’s OneSkin.co promo code DANASHOW for 15% off. After your purchase, they’ll ask you where you heard about them. Support your show and tell them we sent you.
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I think he’s doing a terrible job. I think we should be, no, I think we should be three points lower interest rate. He’s costing our country a lot of money. We should be number one. And we’re not. And that’s because of Jerome Powell. In terms of interest, we are number one in the world.
SPEAKER 21 :
He’s really mad at him. And you can tell that POTUS is really mad at Jerome Powell because of this headline. Quote, Trump official criticizes the Fed chief for ostentatious office renovations. It’s like everything is on deck now. Everything is getting attacked. Everything is germane to it. We’re going after now your office decorations. So what does that mean for the rest of us? Because everybody else is just like, okay, so things are going to get better, right? It’s like that Natalie Portman meme from Star Wars. Things are going to get better, right? I just don’t think so. So let’s have some real truth talk. Carol Roth, who’s our beautiful best hair on television friend. And it’s Happy Hair Fridays with Carol Roth, by the way, who has gorgeous hair. Did I say that once? Because I should say it again. You can find her at CarolRoth.com. She’s got a great newsletter up there. And of course, her book, You Will Own Nothing, Your War with a New Financial World Order and How to Fight Back should be a horror film. It really should be. It’s one of the scariest things you’ll ever read. And she is, you know, she worked in investment banking. She’s on TV. You guys know Carol. She joins us now via video. Good to see you, my friend. And when is this? They really they really don’t like each other, which does not help the negotiations. I don’t think that attacking the office decorations are going to help. So what is the way out here for this?
SPEAKER 22 :
Oh, this is such a sordid tale because, you know, in many ways, they’re both right and they’re both wrong. Trump is absolutely right with Jerome Powell when he says he’s been a terrible Fed chair. He’s been a terrible Fed chair. The Fed itself is terrible. Yes. It’s pretty easy to be a terrible Fed chair when you’re the head of a terrible institution. But he supported the economy way too long after COVID. We were in a quote unquote emergency and they were doing emergency funding while the S&P 500 and Nasdaq were hitting all time highs like in June of 2020. He did too much. He cut too much. Then he said there was going to be no inflation. Then he was late to raising and then he was Late to lowering. So, I mean, he’s just been wrong the whole time. And I think we’re probably still somewhat high. So that part we completely agree with Trump on. That being said, one of the things that gets lost in all of this discourse is. is that because of our fiscal foundation, our fiscal situation, the fact that our debt to GDP is now north of 120%, that we are running war level deficits, even though we’re not in a war and that the economy is expanding, we’re in a very precarious financial position. And the people, the central banks that used to buy our debt because we are the world’s reserve currency, they have not been buyers for like the last 10 or 11 years on net. So the people who are buying longer term debt, the debt that’s a 10 year bond, let’s say, are price sensitive buyers. And they have to figure out what kind of a return they want for having the government hold their money for 10 years. And given that situation and the fact that there is less demand for our debts and we’re putting in more and more supply, both from a refinancing standpoint as well as new supply from our deficits, At the longer term horizon, what we call the long end of the yield curve, the Fed doesn’t control that. The market controls that. And so supply and demand takes effect. And so the fiscal decisions are what’s running that. We saw that back at the end of, I guess it was the end of 2021. three twenty twenty four. I don’t know that the years all blend together. But when the Fed the last time they cut interest rates, you would have expected the yields on the 10 year to go down. But they didn’t. They increased. And it’s again because they don’t control it. So, yes, Trump is absolutely right. Jerome Powell’s not great. The Fed’s not great. But the decisions that they’re making in terms of Congress, the fiscal decisions, the amount of debt, and again, let’s be clear, the bad fiscal position that was handed over from the Biden administration, because if that weren’t the case, they wouldn’t have to negotiate this in the same way. That is what is limiting his ability to refinance our debt at cheaper rates.
SPEAKER 21 :
Oh, there’s so much that goes into it. I wish it was something as simple as, well, I would just wish Powell could just, you know, just cut the rates. Let’s just do exactly what POTUS is asking for. I know that there’s getting the cart ahead of the horse. There are unforeseen consequences. Well, unforeseen, maybe not to you, but to maybe some others, because we do have a serious financial illiteracy problem, as you’ve said many times. And it’s true. But. I just I feel like there there’s there’s there’s more that he could do without. He doesn’t have to go whole hog. There’s definitely more that he could do. Is it? And I hate even bringing this like aspect of analysis to it. Is it because Powell is just it’s a political hindrance? He just he just dislikes Trump and he and he doesn’t like the way Trump is handling it, you know, and Trump can play hardball pretty hard. And I feel like Powell isn’t he’s not he doesn’t receive that well. I’m just pulling my hair out trying to figure out why it’s such an impasse.
SPEAKER 22 :
Yeah, I think that the Fed is always late. They’re not ones that get ahead of the curve, no pun intended. They’re always behind, and they’re always behind schedule. I think that he’s not necessarily being political now, but he might have been political when he did the cut right before the last election. So I think, you know… I would chalk it up now probably more to the fact that they’re just bad at their jobs and they don’t understand what it is they’re doing and they just look at their own tools and not sort of the broader set of things that’s going on. So I think that that’s more in play. But the reality is, Dana, through the Treasury function and through some, you know, sort of interesting out-of-the-box thinking, we could do other things that would lower rates. We don’t just need the Fed to do it. We could come up with all kinds of things. They could revalue the gold on their balance sheet. They could come up with a scheme. They’re talking about making Franny and Fetty truly public companies again. And they could have people take very cheap blows against the equity of their house for Americans to invest in long term treasuries. There’s a lot of different like out of the box weird things that they can do. I think what you are getting at in terms of the other side, the flip side of that is that there’s a trade off. And the reality is that given the situation, you can’t just do these things and expect that there isn’t an equal and opposite reaction. Otherwise, you believe the MMT people that think that we can just come up with money from nowhere. And if we do these things, the release valve on the other side, the equal and the opposite reaction is likely to be inflationary. So that is the trade off. If we get to a way where we’re going to lower the rates, whether it’s through the Fed or these other machinations, the concern is that that actually ends up being accommodative in some way or another and that that ends up accelerating inflation again, which I’ve said, I think, to you many times and certainly many times elsewhere, I think is the likely scenario. But what it doesn’t do is we can fix the problem temporarily. Let’s say we got the rates down to 1%, zero, whatever, pick a small number. And let’s say we somehow could refinance all the debt, even though it’s not all coming due, but as much as we possibly could, and we put ourselves in a better position. unless we fix that overspending problem, unless we shrink and eliminate that deficit and get things back where we’re growing this country and we’re growing the GDP, but not doing it through deficit spending, then we’re going to just be back in the same situation in a couple of years. So we have a path to buy us time, but those things that they can do to buy us time and make sure it doesn’t all collapse go to a heck in a handbasket right now, it doesn’t solve the problem. It just purely buys us time.
SPEAKER 21 :
Right. We’re talking with our friend Carol Roth and buying time that brings us to that one big, beautiful bill that finally passed and went went to POTUS’s desk. You’re so excited about it. You can just read the love on Carol’s face for this bill, because that’s like what we’re going to have to deal with this again during an election cycle. I mean, there’s so much in here that’s, you know, all of the relief, which is temporary. And I felt like not enough lawmakers were honest about it. Where does that put taxpayers? Where does that put us in this big mess?
SPEAKER 22 :
Well, as I’ve said many times, I always thought the big, beautiful bill needed some ozempic or a fat shot, as Trump liked to call it, right? It’s a little too big, maybe not as beautiful as we had hoped. There were things that were very important in there. And some of the tax policy, both on the personal side and the business side, was critically important. Because at the end of this year, we were facing one of the biggest tax hikes, if not the biggest tax hike of all time. And given our precarious financial position, one thing we cannot do is create a situation that is very restrictive in terms of the economy. So that’s not great. The thought that the tax cuts, though, and the extension in many cases, there’s some new things in there, but most of it is an extension is going to juice all this new economic activity is a little bit concerning to me. Because when you think about the first time the Tax Cuts and Job Acts, we went from restrictive tax policy to this better tax policy and that unleashed growth. But we’re now in that situation. So the extension of it doesn’t create that new push. Maybe a little bit for anybody who is holding back, thinking that there would be an expiration and certainly for some of the small new additions that came in. But as a whole, does it really provide rocket fuel for the economy? No. What it prevents us from sliding backwards, that would have happened. It prevents us from a worse situation that we would have gone back to. But does it move it completely? Completely forward in this crazy way your long term. I don’t see that either. So I think we’re in somewhat of the same situation We certainly need more deregulation to help provide that rocket fuel and that’s something they said they’re gonna get to so we’ll just Take them at their word right now and hope that that comes to pass But I didn’t see And I didn’t hear communicated what the plan on the spending side was. And I don’t think that it went far enough. And if they weren’t able to make it go far enough now, which I understand there are political limits, I would have liked to hear a strategy that says, well, we can’t do this now because, hey, if we just cut off spending, we would also take the economy because it’s been propped up by government spending as well as the consumer. But here’s our plan to shift it over the next couple of years. And so maybe that’s the plan. We just have not given them opportunities. We have not heard what the plan is to take all the doge and all of these issues and make that into a long term plan so that we can bring those deficits down to frankly, they should be Zero. Right. We should we should have a balanced budget or a surplus over time. And I know that’s going to take some time, but it would be great by the end of the term to at least have half of it addressed and be moving in that direction. And so I just don’t feel like we got there. I’m not saying that we won’t. I’m not saying there wasn’t a plan. I just don’t know at this point what it is.
SPEAKER 21 :
And I feel like they tried to kind of do that with floating the idea of pocket rescissions, but I don’t think enough people know that process. And then, like you were saying, there wasn’t any specificity as to what would be allowed to languish and go past that deadline and then the funding run out. There’s not really strong messaging on that.
SPEAKER 22 :
No, and it’s confusing. And the whole process is frankly confusing. And I think that’s part of the frustration. I think that people don’t want one big, beautiful bill. They want small, beautiful bills. They want little things where they understand this is the issue and we’re not going to give on this and take on this. We’re just going to say, hey, here’s this and let’s agree and then we’ll move forward. That’s what small government people want. And frankly, most of Americans want so that they can understand that there’s full transparency and it doesn’t become politicized. And it’s not what we got. I think there is an opportunity. They have some great communicators, including Trump, on their team that can go out and tell us what the next phase of the process is, which we’re all kind of hanging on by a thread. Unfortunately, the next phase of the process that was brought to our door and, you know, Brought brought in and thrown on the doorstep as of yesterday is a new tariff war, which is not exactly what everybody expected.
SPEAKER 21 :
And that’s the other thing. The fuel. Right. Before I let you go, I got to ask about that, because now we’ve got 35 percent. Was it 35 percent on Canada? And then he was talking about maybe a 50 percent on Brazil because of the Bolsonaro. It sounded like it was punishment for the trial Bolsonaro trial. I don’t know if that’s maybe the best thing on which we are going to bank tariffs, but that’s what’s being floated. Last quick thing on that, your thoughts, because I don’t think that that doesn’t contribute in a helpful way to this.
SPEAKER 22 :
If we want to grow our way out of the mess that we’re in, and we all know we’re in a mess, we need certainty. We need certainty for consumers. We need certainty for businesses. We cannot operate it with things shifting on a day-to-day basis based on somebody is getting angry. So let’s come up with a plan. As we’ve just cut taxes, let’s not tax businesses and consumers through tariffs on an ongoing basis.
SPEAKER 21 :
Let’s not take that away.
SPEAKER 22 :
And let’s just move on and take your win and be happy and get back to business.
SPEAKER 21 :
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SPEAKER 09 :
It’s his life mission to make bad decisions. It’s time for Florida Man.
SPEAKER 21 :
All right. So first and foremost, this is a really long story. This guy was very busy. A Florida man saw the back door of somebody’s house left open. So he went inside and the intruders in custody because he got shot. Right. His guns save lives. He goes inside and the person who lives there heard strange noises and the guy charged at them according to WOFL TV and the guy who lives there called out and said, is somebody here? And that’s when the intruder charged towards him. He emerged from a hallway and charged at him. The man fired a single shot into his leg. Deputies responded. The man who fired the shot was not injured. And so the guy was, he’s being held on no bond. He’s got all kinds of charges against him, but Yeah, that’s that’s wow. Guns save lives. They do. Florida man known as Sugar Daddy opens fire in a motel because he was mad that his car got towed, according to the police. And he said, quote, all y’all going to learn today, end quote. Well, he apparently was the only one who learned. Ronald James Davis. This means 51 years old. First off, what? What? Crime makes you ugly and old. Good. Just saying. He’s accused of first degree murder and attempted murder. It was a 430 in the morning plantation in Florida, literally like a South Florida city west of Fort Lauderdale. He shot and killed a dude. Guy was laying face down and pulled blood. Woman’s inside the room. They both were shot. The woman identified Davis as the as the killer. He got he showed up to the hotel because he was mad. He got a traffic ticket and his car was towed and he approached a victim, threatened to beat her up if she didn’t pay. He was, I guess, trying to collect money, shake down people for money so he could get his car back. And he was pounding on the hotel room door and everything went to Hades. That’s what happened. So maybe just I don’t know. Don’t get your car towed. And then that’s not a good way to hustle for money to try to cover your bills. Third hour on the way. And our friends over at Kel-Tec, Kel-Tec makes some very good stuff. And you guys are very familiar with Kel-Tec. The PR-57, as you guys know, it’s a very interesting pistol. This is the rotary barrel pistol chambered in 5.7. It’s 40% lighter than any other 5.7 that’s on the market. And it’s inspired by real-world data and defensive needs. So super affordable, $399 MSRP. But you also have a unique top-loading design. It replaces traditional magazines with stripper clips for a slimmer carry profile, 20 plus 1 capacity, low recoil for ease of use. It’s really great everyday carry. Quickest and easiest field strip available as well. It’s the new Kel-Tec PR57 rotary barrel pistol chambered N57. Lighter than any other on the market, and you can find it at Kel-TecWeapons.com. Innovation Performance Kel-Tec, K-E-L-T-E-C-Weapons.com. Tell them Dana sent you.
SPEAKER 14 :
Hey, Jillian, hi. Excuse me, but homegrown Americans kill at a much higher rate. I’d like to put them in jail, too. Okay, everyone, just stop talking for just a second. Jillian, please stop talking. You all are all talking at the same time. It’s impossible to hear or understand. When I say stop talking, please stop talking. Thank you.
SPEAKER 21 :
OK, you don’t have to be a bitch about it. You can just be like, well, let me jump in here. That’s just because you’re not a great host and you don’t know how to handle your guests. And that doesn’t mean that you shift into like bad mommy mode and then try to like condescend to them and dress them down. Most of whom are probably people with more achievements and accolades than you’ll ever hope to achieve in your shorter career. But that’s not a move to do. You don’t do people like that on your program. I don’t even know if that’s her program. I don’t even know who this chick is. But all I know is that she cannot run a program or manage guests. Welcome back to my program, Dana Lash with you. We’re at the top of this third hour. We’ve got a lot happening. And my friend Danny Boy O’Connor is going to join us later on because he’s got a book out. He’s obsessed with the Outsiders movie. And the book, which was a great book. I mean, it created a whole genre in publishing. And he’s going to join us to chat and hang out for a little bit, so you don’t want to miss. So that was, was it MSNBC or CNN?
SPEAKER 09 :
That’s CNN.
SPEAKER 21 :
I can’t even tell the difference. I don’t even know who these people are. Like, if the life of the planet depended on me correctly identifying these people, I’d be like, we’re all dead. It’s not happening. I don’t know who any of these people are. Nobody’s got time for that on a Friday in July. Come on. Nuttiness. Absolute nuttiness. Yeah, it basically is like the Thunderdome there. It just seems rude, though. Like, oh, stop it. When I say stop, all you have to do is say, wait, wait, wait. Let’s go one at a time. But you don’t have to sit here and try to flex and be like, when I say stop talking, I mean stop talking. I would have gotten up. If I would have been at that table, I would have ripped off my mic, thrown it down and left. There’s no way I was, there was no way I’d be letting some woman talk to me like that. No way. So would you, what would you have done?
SPEAKER 09 :
I don’t know. I don’t tend to talk over people as much. So I don’t think I’d be in that situation.
SPEAKER 21 :
It’s about hating old people or it’s about you’re going to do something like that. You didn’t know anything. I was just merely, I, you’re my friend. I was being observational. I was observing past things is all. That’s the only thing I’m just saying. So, yeah, they’re having a time. They’re having a time. Sometimes I wonder if they regret trying to diversify the ideology represented on that network more because that’s ultimately what you end up getting. It’s pretty crazy. A couple of other things to touch on. We had – let me pull this up. We’re talking about some of the GOP stuff. I really don’t want to get into – everybody heard the Texas story, right? Oh, boy. Okay. So in Texas, you got John Cornyn, who’s a senator. Not a lot of people like John Cornyn because he’s been there for a long time. And typically when you tend to be in a place for a long time, when you tend to be there for as long as he’s been there, you kind of don’t. his record is kind of haunting him a little bit, a little bit, a lot of it. A lot of people think he’s a rhino. Some people think he’s ineffective. Some people think he’s an effective rhino. I mean, he’s got baggage, right? So it doesn’t help. But he’s been running, I mean, I don’t even know how long. He’s been in office for forever. He’s been running unopposed, essentially, in the Senate for some time. Well, until now. So you have the Attorney General of the state of Texas, Ken Paxton, who has filed to run in the primary to challenge Cornyn. And he’s been so far, he’s put up a good challenge. The White House hasn’t waited in yet in it. And Cornyn was meeting with POTUS apparently earlier this week, according to Punchbowl News. Paxton’s already tight with POTUS. Because remember, Ken Paxton was up there in New York when Trump was going through that New York witch hunt, which was a really stupid trial, by the way. That was the dumbest case ever. I can’t even believe it was prosecuted. But here we are. It’s New York. And he was out there. Remember, he was in the background like he was a part of like the hype squad that went out there. And all of this, you know, yes, I’m sure he believed in the rule of law and that it was being subverted in that case. But I also think that he was looking out for, well, I’m going to be running against John Cornyn at some point. So I want to make sure that I get that coveted Trump endorsement. So he’s challenged John Cornyn. And it’s already been I mean, it’s barely started and it’s already so nasty. Well, then yesterday it got nastier.
SPEAKER 20 :
Don’t don’t don’t in days of our Texas Republican politics.
SPEAKER 21 :
This could I mean, you’re talking about a senator who could be working with all of you. So his wife, Ken Paxton’s wife, Angela Paxton, by the way, did they ever respond to you? I mean, it’s been a day. They’re not going to I’m not going to grill him. I mean, I like what Paxton’s done, but I’m not an idiot. You know, I like what he’s done, but I know that there’s a lot of people talking about a lot of issues with him. Anyway, his wife came out and said that basically, according to all the documents that have been reviewed and publicly reported on that, he committed adultery. I don’t know if he committed adultery again past the 2018 affair that he had. And he came out and talked about it in the press, and I guess they got over it, and their marriage continued. But she filed for divorce yesterday, and that was cited in the documents that were made public. She’s accusing him of infidelity. So I don’t know if it’s based on that 2018 affair or if it’s something new. That’s one thing that wasn’t made clear, but… It’s already you can imagine how that’s fitting into a nasty Republican primary. So here’s the question. And I don’t mean I’m not trying to diminish anything. I just want to get right to the point of the issue. Does it matter? Nobody wants to talk about this on the Republican side of things. Doesn’t matter. Does marital infidelity matter in elections? Meaning, do you think it’s an effective weapon? Is it effective when it’s weaponized against someone?
SPEAKER 09 :
The answer to that question is yes. It is effective when weaponized. It is effective when weaponized, but I don’t think it matters very much. Now, there is an argument to be made that, hey, if he’s going to do this to… his wife, he might do this to the state of Texas or the country or whatever. I don’t buy into that necessarily so much. So I don’t look at this as something that may automatically kills his chances to become senator, but I think it is an effective weaponization.
SPEAKER 21 :
I don’t know if it is an effective weaponization.
SPEAKER 09 :
I’ve seen it happen.
SPEAKER 21 :
I don’t know if it’s mattered since Bill Clinton. Well, I take that back. No, I don’t take it back. It hasn’t mattered since Bill Clinton. And you can bring up John Edwards, but John Edwards, if you remember, didn’t get in trouble because he had an affair. John Edwards got in trouble because of how badly he tried to cover it up. When John Edwards screwed around on his wife with that Ryle Hunter, he paid his campaign surrogate to pretend that he was the one having the affair. And then when she had the love child, He basically had he paid this guy off just to claim that baby as his own. And I mean, that guy was married and had to deal with that in his own marriage. And they he was using campaign contributions to cover it. And then there was that rich heiress, Bonnie, Bunny Mellon, whose money he was taking to pay for all of it. So he got in trouble for campaign for like all kinds of fraudulent spending and all of this. That’s why he got in trouble. And the cover up is usually always worse than a crime for the most part in instances like this. And so they weren’t mad at him because he had an affair. They got mad at him because he was using Bunny Mellon’s money to pay off people in his campaign to pretend that they were the ones having the affair and that his love child was actually theirs. If you remember, they got caught on that CCTV footage at a hotel that somebody sold to the National Enquirer. National Enquirer actually got to report some journalism and nobody else would touch the story and they reported on it. And that’s how it went gangbusters. And then he hit it and they were trying to say, well, National Enquirer reported on it. So it’s trash. Yeah, that’s guilt by association. That doesn’t really work. So it came out and then he went to court and and then his wife was sick. She had cancer. His wife had cancer terminal. Oh, my gosh. It was just a diet that all of that all of that contributed. But that being said, if it had just been an affair, I think he would still have been Democrats golden boy. He was they were he was going to be the one that they had before Barack Obama. Barack Obama was not the next one after Clinton. It was John Edwards. They wanted John Edwards. He was the VP pick for Kerry. They wanted him. He was the golden boy. And they thought that they could you know, they thought they really had it made. But turned out, you know, they didn’t. So I don’t know, because it didn’t really a lot of people talked about it with Trump the first term. But I think the thing that made it difficult was. in talking because i agree with you and i’ve said before i’m like well if you can’t you know i i you know is it’s a judge of it’s a judge of character and that if they can’t stay true to their wives can they stay true to the voter however again i think that’s not the way to look at it you got to look at the currency of this Everybody has a currency. Some people want public adoration. Some people want power. And if that currency is being served, they will be faithful to that currency. They will be faithful to whatever gets that currency more so maybe than they would ever be within the bonds of marriage. And that’s one thing that you can always count on and predict with certain politicians. So I think that’s in some cases makes it different with POTUS. For his first term, it seemed like everything was already resolved. And I think that’s what made it harder to stick. Like he was on good terms with his first wife, on good terms with his second wife. They all seemed to be reconciled to how everything went down and they were fine and everybody was getting along. None of his kids were Hunter Biden. Nobody was on drugs and running out and partying. You didn’t see any bleary-eyed photos of any Trump’s kids pouring out of the club at two in the morning, hopping into a car all drunk as skunks. You didn’t see any of that. And I think that… kind of i think that tempered any criticism this is is what’s different though this is what’s different so i um with i i just think that uh i don’t know i just think it’s just weird it’s just the whole thing i i with paxton there’s a lot of rumors that And there are a lot of rumors. There’s a lot of different stuff that I’ve heard over the years. I don’t know. I’ve never put stock in any of it. I don’t pay attention to any of it. I just know that there’s a lot of whispering and all of that. Whether or not that hurts him, I think, depends upon the negatives that John Cornyn has. And also, how badly do they want to get rid of John Cornyn? And how does this play out? I think some of this is going to be predicated upon the nastiness of their dissolvement of their marriage. So if it gets nasty between them, is that, that could potentially overshadow his Senate bid. And then that, yeah.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah. I agree with that 100%.
SPEAKER 21 :
So I don’t know. That’s, that’s just kind of like the big thing with it. I, I, I’m not going to like report on it breathlessly. Like it’s TMZ and, However, I also think that for people who bring up questions as about fidelity and they say that that may be a mark against a candidate for them. I don’t think that you can get mad at those people for saying that either. I mean, you’re going to be like you’re going to pretend to be family first or you’re going to be family first. You’re going to pretend to be principals first or not. I think it’s just – I think it exposes people as grifters when they get mad at other individuals that they claim are on their side for espousing observations that everybody held 10 years ago that everyone kind of agreed on. And they think, yeah, that’s a market against somebody’s character. Believe me, I get being Machiavelli probably better than most of these people do. However, what I don’t like are people getting attacked because they say, well, yes, you shouldn’t be cheating on your wife or yes, you should keep it within the bonds of marriage, whatever. And I see that happening all over social media. If that’s not something that you use as a standard of value, then that’s fine for you. But don’t look down or attack somebody else that’s done probably more than you have for the conservative cause because they disagree.
SPEAKER 09 :
And now, all of the news you would probably miss. It’s time for Dana’s Quick Five.
SPEAKER 21 :
All right, so… There was, let’s see, two people facing… Oh, no, I’m not doing that one. We’re not doing any of those. I don’t like those. There’s a billboard and billboards in Cleveland that are drawing a lot of criticism because they say, I buy… It says, I buy crack houses and your house is trash. People are… Literally, that’s what it says. Is your house trash? And then it’s like a guy in glasses. And so it’s drawing some criticism. One of the billboards reads, yes, I buy crack houses. People are upset over it. There’s a lot of backlash from community members and city officials. One particular sign has been taken down, but all the others have remained in place. Local real estate investors say the signs go too far. Somebody goes, what was your point? I didn’t understand. Well, the point was that they want to buy your crack house. That’s the point. The guy wants to purchase your house of crack. Or if your house is trash, he would like to buy your trash house. I mean, I think that’s kind of the point, right? It seems pretty direct. Isn’t that the whole point of why they’re upset?
SPEAKER 09 :
It’s a crack house and a trashy house.
SPEAKER 21 :
A trashy crack house. Rarely are the crack houses bougie. You know, I’m just saying. Like, I don’t even understand. This is the sign. And then these investors are like, what is the point? I don’t understand. Well, he wants to buy your trashy house in cash. That’s what I get out of it. Yeah. Do you know that your suitcase is 58 times dirtier than a public toilet seat? What? I believe it. Who else wipes their suitcase down every time before and after you go through security? And then when you get home? Just me? Yeah, it’s 58 times dirtier, according to a new study. And the wheels, obviously, are the dirtiest. So, ew. Like, they found, like, staff, a bunch of stuff I can’t say, and grody stuff on these things. Ugh. Don’t lick your wheels. Don’t lick your suitcase wheels.
SPEAKER 09 :
Nobody does that. But I think about it now.
SPEAKER 21 :
I bet some people do.
SPEAKER 09 :
I’ve wheeled my suitcase into the bathroom before. So imagine rolling around on the bathroom floor that whole time.
SPEAKER 21 :
I don’t take my suitcase back into my room when I get back from traveling until I wipe the wheels down.
SPEAKER 11 :
Really?
SPEAKER 21 :
I always have the little wipes on me. Always. But I don’t take it into my house. I can’t say that for everybody else in my family. But I don’t take it. I am that person.
SPEAKER 11 :
I’m going to start doing that now.
SPEAKER 21 :
I know. No, this makes me so sick. This is a travel and leisure story. So let’s see. They’re going to bed. They’re going to ban lead ammunition for hunting and shooting in England, Scotland and Wales. Yeah, they are. It’s restrictions on shots and toxic metals. What do you think the lead comes from? It comes from space. Where does the lead come from? It comes from the planet that you’re on. If it’s in the planet, how is it all of a sudden toxic? You know what? Lead’s toxic if you get shot with it. So just don’t do that. We’ve got a lot more on the way. Do you like the Outsiders movie? I mean, there’s some really cool stuff that’s happening. Our friend Danny Boy O’Connor, he’s doing some really big things in Tulsa. He joins us about his new book next. Stick with us.
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SPEAKER 21 :
Welcome back to the program. Dana Lash with you. We’re at the bottom of this third hour. And I got to tell you, so you guys know Simple Minds, one of my favorite groups ever. And New Gold Dream is one of my absolute favorite songs of all time. And I played this like bumper music at some point. And I got a message on Instagram and I my jaw hit the floor. Because it’s Danny Boy O’Connor who messaged me on Instagram. And it was like one of those things where, I mean, this guy’s like a legend. And he was a part of like a legendary musical moment or era in the United States. I’m like, oh my gosh. And then not only does he also love that song. But then you realize that he loves a particular author that made a major impact on you when you were growing up and a story that like resonated through the generations. And I’m talking about S.E. Hinton and the Outsiders, which that literally created an entire genre in publishing. There was no YA anything before Hinton came out with her with her books. She I mean, boom, boom. She was a teenager when she wrote this book and she had a bestseller. She was like famous out of the gate. Very few authors get to enjoy that, not just the notoriety, but knowing that there is such widespread appreciation for their work as she did. Well, then I was reading more about it and I saw that Danny Boy O’Connor really was so invested in the story. Like most people get memorabilia, you know, they’ll get like a signed copy of the book. maybe if they’re lucky, they might get a copy of the actual screenplay. He got the house. He literally went, he was in Tulsa, bought the outsider’s house, the actual craftsman home where they filmed it. So I think I can safely say without any debate, that nobody is a bigger fan of the Outsiders than Danny Boy O’Connor. And I doubt that there’s a bigger film fan anywhere than Danny Boy O’Connor, who joins us now via video. My good friend, Danny, God love you.
SPEAKER 18 :
It’s so good to see you. So good to see you and get to talk to you. It’s been a long time coming, and I definitely remember reaching out to you. You have a fantastic choice in bumper music. I said I think the only one who comes close was the late, great Art Bell, who had a very eclectic taste in music. Some of it I didn’t think I would like, but you hear it long enough and you’d learn to love it. But you and me, I feel like if somebody found my iPod, they would probably return it to you because we like a lot of the same stuff. And for a dude who grew up doing hip hop all his life, people have survived that I’m like into New Wave or, you know, The Cult or Sisters of Mercy or all of the stuff that I like. That’s really what I listen to full time and have done since day one. But yeah, that’s so good to meet you. And I love your show. And I Yeah.
SPEAKER 21 :
Well, thank you. I’m a big fan of yours as well. And the fact that I just had my musical taste affirmed, I’m like going to forever keep that. It’s going to be my epitaph. I want to talk to you about your efforts in Tulsa because I also love The Outsiders. And I think I read this thing about it where it was talking about how libraries and teachers really helped maintain the popularity of that book through multiple generations. And that’s how I first read it in school. And it was… a non-condescending way of talking about the differences between people and a search for uh inclusion and it was and i think it was so non-condescending because it was written by a teenager and i think this book has impacted everybody in some way but you most significantly because when you were in tulsa i read that you had somebody that was taking you around to look at where they were filming the outsiders and you saw this house and you ended up buying this house
SPEAKER 18 :
Yeah, so some of that is correct. I went on tour and we played Tulsa in 2009. We played the famous Canes Ballroom. We had never played as House of Pain, my original group, but we played it as another group called La Coconostra, which was an amalgamation of House of Pain and a couple other groups. And it was that tour that I ended up stumbling upon Tulsa. And then I realized, oh, my God, this is where they filmed The Outsider. So I went looking for locations. Never in a million years did I think I’d buy the house. But for the next five years, God had a funny plan. And I kept making my way to Tulsa somehow. And at year five, after the fifth year of coming here, I realized that if somebody doesn’t step up and do something, this house might get torn down.
SPEAKER 21 :
And it was going to. Yeah.
SPEAKER 18 :
went and found the owner. It was really hard to find her. She was living in Florida. She inherited the house and she had tenants that were eight months behind in rent. And so we told her we would be interested in hearing her offer. And when I first found it in 2009, they were asking $42,000 for the house. I ended up, I’ll cut to the chase, I ended up paying $15,000 for the house. Wow. Jaw dropped. Couldn’t believe I was the new owner of the outsider’s house. But when I got here to Tulsa and… saw what I actually bought, I realized it was a fair deal. But that’s where my life story changes because When you’re six foot six and an alpha male, for me, it was hard to ask for help. But when I got here, I had to really admit that I didn’t know what I was doing. And I’m not the guy who’s like, I’m not the contractor guy or not to build you things. I’m a creative director, but I’m not like in that area. And I asked for help. And I tell you what, Dana, the people of Tulsa put me on high, surrounded me. They cut the lawn. They fixed the roof. They painted the whatever. They were so amazing.
SPEAKER 20 :
Just invested in it.
SPEAKER 18 :
Yeah. Yeah. And and I decided, you know what, I’m never going home and home was Los Angeles, California for the last 48 years. And after six months of working on this project, I said, I’m moving to Tulsa and I’ve been here for eight years. I love everything about it. The people here are great. And yeah. There’s so much opportunity here. Not only what, you know, there’s rich music and film history here, but there’s a budding film industry growing on here right now. And Leon Russell’s also from here. So there’s a church studios right down the street from our museum that has also been restored into an incredible museum. And it’s a handful of things that are going on right now. When I first got here in 2009, you couldn’t say all of the things that I can name off that are that are popping right now in Tulsa. But right now, Tulsa is on fire in the best possible way. And it’s I couldn’t imagine living anywhere else.
SPEAKER 21 :
And you’re helping to put it on the map. I want to tell everybody about Danny’s new book, The Oral History of the Outsider, Staying Gold, how S.E. Hinton’s novel and Francis Ford Coppola’s movie became cult classics and launched today’s Hollywood icons to superstardom because there were I mean, it was an amazing I know it was done like on a shoestring budget. Because I know when Coppola was making this movie, he was, you know, he was coming out. He already had The Godfather success. This was coming out in 83. But he was able to put together this amazing, like a dream cast of who you would want to play in this.
SPEAKER 18 :
The Brat Pack.
SPEAKER 21 :
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER 18 :
Yeah. Emilio Estevez, Tom Cruise, Matt Dillon, C. Thomas Howell, Ralph Macchio, Diane Lane, Leif Garrett. I mean, everybody guys went on, you know, and took the 80s over by storm. So, yeah, it’s an incredible cast, but nothing beats the author and incredible director to Coppola. I’m a huge.
SPEAKER 21 :
He’s one of my favorites.
SPEAKER 18 :
I mean, goodness. But. I told Susie Hinton when I first met her, I said, there’s there’s nobody has had me more in fear to meet the person. And I’ve met everybody growing up in Hollywood that you could meet. I said, Susie, I almost canceled on our date because I was I just didn’t think I’d had it in me to do it. And she said, well, but we hit it off straight away. She’s a fantastic woman. She wrote the book when she was 15 and a half.
SPEAKER 21 :
And she donated to this museum, too, not to interrupt you, but she didn’t.
SPEAKER 18 :
Yeah. she’s the number one supporter financially and just of giving us the blessing but her story is really what hit home for me because you know she wrote that book at 15 and a half she failed english d plus and creative writing that year the book has never been out of print in over 42 years um it sells every year there’s a new crop of of outsiders fans um the reason it becomes a movie is because the librarian noticed a tipping point with her students She said, Danny, the girls would read anything I give them, but the boys, nuh-uh. And she said, I gave them this book, and they devoured it. So she said, I’m going to have 100 of them write to Francis Ford Coppola, of all people, and ask him to look at this book and perhaps turn it into a movie.
SPEAKER 11 :
I love that story.
SPEAKER 18 :
I said, why would you do that? I said, he was the godfather one and two in Apocalypse Now at that time. She goes, yeah, but he did such a masterful job staying true to the black stallion that I thought he’d be a shoo-in. And so there’s so many… Courses of miracles that had to happen for this book to turn into a movie, the movie to turn into a museum, and now the museum to turn into a Broadway musical, which just took four Tony Awards and is, you know, sweeping the nation. It’s going to kick off here in October at the Tulsa PAC. I love that. That’s amazing. It just keeps growing and growing and growing.
SPEAKER 21 :
I love this story with Coppola. He said that when he got, I read an interview where he said that he got this big thick packet and all these kids had their signatures. And he said, I looked at every signature and you could tell they were all individual, like these little signatures. And he was like, I had to read it after that. I had to.
SPEAKER 18 :
He got on a flight. They sent it to the wrong address in New York. And then his assistant brought it back to LA and he was getting on another flight to go to New York. And he said, there was nothing to read on the plane. So I dug in that packet and I started finding all these letters. By the time I got off that flight, I knew we had to make this movie. So.
SPEAKER 21 :
And he did and he fought to make it happen in Tulsa. And I know I don’t want to give all the mysteries away of the museum, but I know that there was a mystery involving the director’s chair because you have Coppola’s director’s chair. It’s at I know you have tons of stuff at the house, but you have that chair. It went missing for a while.
SPEAKER 18 :
Well, yeah, it was stolen on the set of Rumblefish, which is also an S.E. Hinton book. And Coppola also did that movie.
SPEAKER 11 :
Came out the same year.
SPEAKER 18 :
Yeah, two weeks later, after wrapping The Outsiders, he went right into Rumblefish, also filmed in Tulsa. And I guess… Somebody experiencing homelessness at that time decided they needed a chair. And Coppola, everybody broke character to go save his chair. And he said, guys, we’re here to make a movie. If he wants the chair, let him have it. So a wonderful man named Gary Johnson, a retired Tulsa PD guy, found the chair two weeks later behind a liquor store. A guy was living there and he was playing games on the train tracks. They thought he was trying to kill himself. So he was there to evict him. He said, you grab your chair. Wait. where’d you get that chair? And he’s like, that’s not my chair. You want that chair? So he said, Danny, I was had that in my man cave for 34 years until you got to town. He said, that was going to Valhalla with me. But since you, you, you, you’re doing this, this incredible work, we want to donate it to you. And so that began my journey. And then, and I started to build an incredible collection and, uh, there’s nothing that comes close to our collection of not only her books, movie memorabilia from wardrobe to cars in the movie. And now I collect all of her work and the dream is to do an S.E. Hinton Museum.
SPEAKER 21 :
That’s amazing. And I think that’s definitely deserving. I don’t know anybody that has so many hits at that young, like right out of the gate was writing bestsellers. You did. We’re talking to our awesome friend, Danny Boy O’Connor and the Oral History of the Outsiders, his new book, The Early Orders You Can Do Right Now, Barnes & Noble, 25% off today’s last day. You were so faithful to the restoration of this house. I was reading about how detailed you were getting. Like you were even you were like looking at the like for the lack of a better word, like screen grabs, trying to get the tint of the wallpaper correctly, like marks on appliances. Like you were so faithful to this. What inspired that?
SPEAKER 18 :
Probably my OCD. You know what? I knew that I was such a fan and I knew that there were a lot of fans like me and I knew that if it didn’t pass a test, you know, it was not going to. The last thing I wanted kids to come out and go, that’s not how it looked. So I was obsessed with it. It took three and a half years. I remember the first interview I did, they said, how long do you think it’ll be? to this is up and running i said give me three three and a half months you know three and a half years later and you know 250 000 worth of of stuff not to count the gifts in kind we cut the ribbon but if you were to give me another three years that’s how much of a perfectionist because i wanted this thing to be as equally like it has to represent essie hinton it’s not about you know as much as it’s about her legacy and how this book is has reached children and you said it you nailed it it’s about the right side of the tracks and the wrong side of the tracks proverbially and finding what she says is we saw the same sunset although our worlds were two you know completely different places we saw the same sunset for me that’s finding a mutual thing that we both can like whether you’re left right black white doesn’t matter we both look up see a beautiful creation the sunset that god made even by default if we both like it it brings us one step closer and so that’s what we do at that place and uh i will end by telling you that uh we did have close to six thousand school students tour the museum the last semester that just passed before they went into summer. And that was an unexpected consequence of building this museum. I built this museum for me and your husband to look at switchblades and Matt Dillon’s leather jackets and stuff like that. But it’s really a museum driven by the kids. And the educational component that we’re trying to build out is why we’re doing a gala coming up in October on the 12th on the heels of this musical that’s going to come to town.
SPEAKER 21 :
That’s amazing. I want to share with everybody before I let you go talking with Danny Boy O’Connor, this quote that I read from you, which I thought was so incredibly profound. And it kind of hit me the same way as like the message of the outsiders and the way that you approached restoring this house into this museum. You said, I think as a nation or as a people in the past, we’ve looked at pop culture as being disposable. And now the things that were once disposable to us become more important than, say, like a Monet. And you said, I’ve been to Amsterdam. I’ve seen Rembrandt. It’s a brilliant painting, but I don’t relate to that in any way. There’s no part of my DNA in that. And The Outsiders is like a rite of passage. I love this because I think – You’re good.
SPEAKER 18 :
You dug that one out. That’s good. That is – such a great deal i mean i mean fonzie raised me and and and jachi and joni and and and you know shauna now was the the guys i wanted to look like because they looked like the guys in brooklyn where i grew up originally before i came to california everybody i knew was like a shauna type character so when i saw the outsiders i thought well listen i don’t have much but if i had a band of brothers that would surround me and me surround them and just look out for each other that this life would be doable and so it sure has been but uh I don’t believe that I would have had the success that I’ve had here in Tulsa if this house wasn’t Los Angeles or New York. It’s just people here are cut from a different cloth and I’m never leaving.
SPEAKER 21 :
Amen to that. Danny Boy O’Connor, the book, you got to get it now, The Oral History of the Outsider, Stain Gold. And you can do that pre-order right now. uh barnes and noble and it comes out this fall and of course the musical we’ll make sure we remind everybody about the gala uh i’m gonna get down there and visit it because i love the book i’ve been to tulsa we got affiliates in tulsa i gotta get down there and i gotta go visit i gotta go look at the switchblades and i gotta go look at this director’s chair and the jacket and the car and everything else danny boy o’connor god bless you my friend and icon in so many different ways and you’re just keeping on going appreciate you thank you my friend stay gold that’s right
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SPEAKER 21 :
I forgot to tell people when I had Danny with us is that you can support those ongoing restoration efforts over at the Outsiders House Museum. You can get a brick. Oh, yeah. It’s part of the story. It’s actually cool. It’s a personalized brick and it helps to go towards the long term survival of the museum. And it is like really when you when you read how detailed they got into recreating that house room by room. It’s wild. Like the floor. Exactly. The kitchen, exactly everything like he went through frame by frame from the film. It is wild. And I think Rob Lowe went to it and visited it and he was like blown away. He had it on his Instagram account. He was like blown away at just the efforts that in how the realism of it. It was like when they were back there. All right. So and that’s at Brick’s. us is there a brick yeah bricks are us dot com slash donors at the outsiders i’ll have that all up on a social so you can access it today’s stupidity king all right looks like democrat maryland attorney general anthony brown one this is cut 21
SPEAKER 07 :
apparently they don’t want to cooperate with ice with federal law enforcement listen to this if you want federal transportation dollars you’ve got to cooperate with ice and maryland refuses to cooperate with ice okay well there you go well um can i also not cooperate with laws i don’t want to follow
SPEAKER 09 :
He’s in the F.A. portion.
SPEAKER 21 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 09 :
Oh, the F.O. is going to come around.
SPEAKER 21 :
It’s coming. Yeah, it’s coming. It’s going to come around. Folks, that does it for us this week. Find us over at Facebook and YouTube. Like and subscribe. Subscribe, chapter and verse as well. Have a great rest of your Friday. Have a great weekend. I’ll be back with you on Monday.
