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In this episode of Rush to Reason, host John Rush delves into some of the most pressing issues affecting our society today. From the looming failures of socialist grocery stores to the complex debate around education reform, John tackles these topics with his characteristic insight and wit. Special guest Jersey Joe joins the discussion, bringing his unique perspective on the failed municipal grocery initiative in Kansas City, and the implications of socialist policies. Together, they explore the controversial claim by former Secretary of State Mike Pompeo about who’s the real threat to America, and they unpack the broader implications
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And we are back. Hour 3, Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Jersey Joe joining us. Joe, how are you? John, I’m just fine. How about yourself? Doing great. Good week. It’s been a lot of fun. It’s a little warm out, but that’s all right. Cool weather on its way.
SPEAKER 10 :
That’s it. What, Labor Day is what, 10 days away?
SPEAKER 04 :
Not very far.
SPEAKER 10 :
Not very far. Right around the corner. Right around the corner. Hey, I want to talk about, I know your last guest was about education.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 10 :
Sonny Kutcher talked about education. I’ve got a couple of clips I want to play. But before we do that, two things about socialism. Did you talk about the Kansas City grocery store going out of business?
SPEAKER 04 :
You know, I had it for my notes earlier in the week, and I just never got around to it.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, just an update, because I’ve got two things. You know, the mayoral candidate for New York City said, Mamdami has promised to create a network of city-owned and operated grocery stores in New York City. Well, in Kansas City, Missouri, they had one for almost 10 years. And last week, after $18 million of taxpayer money, they finally closed their doors. Now, let me tell you how big of a failure it was. This was the only grocery store within a five-mile radius of a neighborhood where most people don’t have cars. which means to shop other places, people had to get on a bus and take a bus somewhere to buy their groceries and take a bus to get home. So this city-owned and operated grocery store that had literally no competition within five miles of a big neighborhood went out of business after $18 million of city money. And customers complained about empty shelves and rotten food. So that’s just an example of when the city tries to run something, they fail.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yep, absolutely. Well, yeah, as you know, Joe, no competition, you know, and I’d mentioned this, and you know these numbers as well as anyone, and I mentioned this when we first started talking about Mindami and the fact that, you know, he’s going to, You know, take out all the costs and it’ll be low cost and we can lower the price of groceries and this, that or the other. I mean, this is a guy that he does know this. He’s not that dumb, but he’s forgetting to tell people that grocery store chains, Kroger’s and so on of the world, you know, they operate off of about a two to three percent net when it’s all said and done. So what’s he going to lower food prices two to three percent, Joe, when it’s all said and done?
SPEAKER 10 :
No, he can’t. And they, of course, have huge buying power, because they’re buying… And I threw that into the mixture as well.
SPEAKER 04 :
So at the end of the day, Joe, there will be no savings. Zero.
SPEAKER 10 :
There will be no savings, and they’ll probably all wind up… Well, he may wind up subsidizing with taxpayer money, but they’re never going to operate… Well, that’s a different situation.
SPEAKER 04 :
I mean, he’s not talking about that, of course, but his model and what he’s talking about is impossible to make work. It won’t happen.
SPEAKER 10 :
It won’t happen, right. So now, on a kind of a related socialism note, so… And I’m going to read you a headline from CNN. But first, you know, socialism always begins with questions like, why can’t we provide just provide health care for everyone? And it ends with questions like this. And this is a headline from CNN. Can rabbit meat save Venezuelans from starvation? Can rabbit meat save? People in Venezuela are starving. It’s called the Venezuelan diet. You’re losing 20 pounds every six months because there is no food in Venezuela. And, of course, Venezuela at one time, Bernie Sanders, used to point to Venezuela as the socialist model that the U.S. should be following. So that’s how it starts. Why can’t we provide health care for everyone? And it ends with, can rabbit meat save Venezuelans from starvation? That’s how it ends. Anyway, let’s move on to education. You just had your guest. And Sonny Kutcher yesterday talked about, I believe you two talked about the failure of the United States educational system. Correct. Well, here’s a former Secretary of State Mike Pompeo did an interview with John Stossel. And it’s interesting. John Stossel asked him, you know, which person, in your opinion, is the biggest threat to the security of the United States? And he mentioned somebody whose first name is Randy. And I just want to preface this. Randy is a woman, not a man. So can you play this clip from about Mike Pompeo telling John Stossel who the most dangerous person in America is?
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Most dangerous person in the world. Vladimir Putin? Kim Jong-un? Former Secretary of State Mike Pompeo dealt with both of them, but when I interviewed him, he named someone unexpected. I’ve said that Randy Weingarten is the most dangerous person in the world. Randy Weingarten? The teachers union boss? I don’t like her either.
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Who are we? The UFC!
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She once brought her union outside my office to protest by saying her union hurts kids. But the most in the world? The most dangerous person in the world. More than Putin?
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Yep. You know, it’s a close call on some of these things. But we’ll figure out Putin. We’ll figure out Xi Jinping. You teach kids that America is a racist nation. You teach kids that groups matter more than individuals. You teach kids that there’s an oppressor class and that somehow America is the most indecent nation in the history of the world. You’re done. The republic is finished. That next generation won’t grow up to understand that, no, these institutions matter, that we are the most noble nation in the history of civilization. Our schools are the place that inculcates this set of founding ideas. And when you do those things, too, you destroy the family, the other primary institution in the United States. You’re going to watch my full interview.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, and by the way, it goes right along the lines of what we just got done talking about with Richard of, you know, this last hour, Joe, is exactly that. Yeah, I mean— The brainwashing of kids to where they don’t—they cannot think for themselves. They have no ability to do so.
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They have no ability, and they become indoctrinated with all of these beliefs that they’ve never, you know, bothered to dig into. And, you know, schools don’t teach critical thinking. Nope. Nope. And, you know, they can fill their heads, John, with all sorts of nonsense. And, of course, I run into this every day. As you know, with no secret, I spend about 20 minutes every morning— on some of these liberal websites. And the nonsense that some of these people on these, that frequent these, that follow these liberal websites, John, What they don’t know or the false beliefs they have, John could fill a book.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, and you’re correct in what you’re saying. Is it one or the other or both? And I think maybe it’s a combination of the two. It’s literally been they’ve been brainwashed into believing something. They’ve got no ability to figure out whether that’s fact or fiction. They have no interest in figuring out if it’s fact or fiction because they have been told for years, Joe, not that the sky is blue, but it’s black.
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Yep. And I think it was a Jesuit priest who said one time, give me a boy till he’s six and I will shape him for life. And that’s unfortunately what we’re seeing now. A few smart people, like, you know, you get people like Andy who at some point in their lives, they wake up, you know, that’s the way they were raised. And Andy finally, you know, thought for himself and said, wait a minute, everything I believed isn’t right. And there is a better and different way. And there was another guy that Stossel interviewed, a guy named Mike Schellenberg wrote a book He was a flaming liberal, and now he’s come out and said, some of the things that I advocated and what my fellow liberals advocated are responsible for the death spiral that San Francisco’s in today. But those people like Handy and him are few and far between. Yes, they are.
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That is a fact.
SPEAKER 10 :
Right. Now, I’ve got another one. Now, Nick Freitas is a state, he’s on the state legislature in Virginia, but he’s got kind of a podcast going. And there’s a little clip of he starts off with a woman. She’s got a Ph.D. from UC Berkeley in soil biology. And she’s posted her own little podcast lamenting the fact that she can’t find a job. She’s she’s drowning in debt and she’s blaming capitalism. And then Nick Freitas gives his perspective on her problems. We can play this. Truly tragic story.
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I got a PhD from Berkeley. I can’t get a job to save my life. I got a soil biology PhD. I don’t want to like move to some random place in the middle of nowhere. And like, I have long COVID, so it’s difficult for me to work like a full-time job. I’m getting crushed by capitalism.
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I’m going to stop you right there. I don’t think that’s what it is. I think it’s probably the tens of thousands of dollars in student loans you took out in order to get a degree in a field that generally doesn’t pay a whole lot of money. And even when it does pay pretty well, you have to actually move to the areas that are willing to pay you to do that kind of work. And you’re going to have to put in the hours, which you don’t seem willing to do because you had the flu a while back. So I don’t think it’s capitalism that’s crushing you. I think it’s economic illiteracy combined with a sense of entitlement, both of which I believe are majors at Cal Berkeley.
SPEAKER 04 :
I can’t argue that.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, and they’re always looking, you know, the young people today, all of their problems are always somebody else’s fault. They won’t take responsibility for their own life choices.
SPEAKER 04 :
It’s all capitalism’s fault, Joe.
SPEAKER 10 :
It’s all capitalism. So this woman, she didn’t just get a bachelor’s, she didn’t get a master’s, she got a Ph.D. in soil biology. And where do you think you’re going to use that Ph.D.? Manhattan? Los Angeles? Yeah. Dallas, no, you’re going to use it in Nebraska, Iowa, you know, farm country. And and she’s saying, well, you know, I had like got long COVID. I can’t work long hours. Well, dear, you know, you got to you spent. By the way, to get a Ph.D. in UC Berkeley, John, that’s at least seven years of college. You know, she’s probably two hundred thousand dollars.
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Wow. Unreal. And she’s— Along those lines, I’m going to slip this in. I had a conversation with a gentleman last night, and we were just talking about just kids and accomplishments and different things and so on. And somehow, I don’t know, I threw out there that, you know, half the battle in a lot of things in life, work or learning or whatever, Joe, it’s just showing up. In other words, you know, you can be the dumbest guy in the room, which I normally am, But you show up on time every day or early and put in the extra hours, and the reality is, just by showing up, you’ll be surprised at the things that you can learn and get ahead with. And it’s something, Joe, that we have not taught these past several generations, that showing up is half the battle.
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And showing up, and John, combined, you know, when I was, you know, I was, you know, a branch manager of a small service. When I first started out, I was a You know, I had seven or eight guys. I was running a branch service office, and I used to make the mistake, you know, sometimes you have a choice. You need to hire somebody, and on one hand, you got this, you know, guy, 40 years old. He’s got a ton of experience, but his attitude is, eh, maybe so-so. Then you got this young kid. He’s full of spit and vinegar and whatnot. Great attitude. He’s a yes-sir, no-sir, clean cut, but he doesn’t have the experience. Well, on a couple occasions, I made the mistake of hiring the experience, and what I found out is that I can inject experience, but I cannot inject attitude and aptitude. That’s right. So I believe one of my successes as a manager, I rose, become district manager, regional VP, CEO, is that if forced to choose between experience on one hand and attitude and aptitude on the other, I would always go with attitude and aptitude. And those people would want to learn. They’d become a sponge. They would show up. That’s right. They were always there early. And people ask me, you know, Joe, what’s your biggest success? My biggest success is John have names. There are people that I hired, coached, mentored. That’s right. And those are my biggest successes.
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Absolutely.
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They all have names.
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Absolutely. No, that’s absolutely right, Joe.
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100%.
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So other news of the day, did you hear about the mayor of New Orleans?
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I did not.
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She’s been indicted. She’s 18 count for federal indictment. It turns out that she was sleeping with her New Orleans police assigned bodyguard, and he was billing the city for the time he spent in her bed, and she lied about it. So she’s under indictment. They’re both under indictment. Let me just read. New Orleans Mayor LaToya Cantrell indicted Friday in federal charges alleging she carried on an intimate relationship with taxpayer-funded security guard and conspired to defraud the city of more than $70,000. U.S. District Court, 18-count indictment, blah, blah, blah, blah. And Officer Jeffrey Vapy. So that’s what’s going on the Big Easy.
SPEAKER 04 :
Wow. So it wasn’t just the simple fact that she was having a relationship with this guy, but on top of that, she was trying to defraud $70,000 worth at the same time.
SPEAKER 10 :
Financial fraud, $70,000. Wow.
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$70,000.
SPEAKER 10 :
So dumb. So dumb. Stupidest thing I’ve heard a week. I do this every week. This week I had three to pick from. One was Joy Reid. She had her own talk show host on MSNBC. She came out and said, by the way, she got fired last month from MSNBC, but Joy Reid, she said, white men can’t fix the history. She’s claiming white men can’t invent anything. Everything they invented, they stole from black men. And, you know, I’m looking, you know, Eli Whitney, McCormick, Willis Carrier. I didn’t realize they stole all those inventions from black men, John. But that was her position, that white men can’t invent anything, and everything they ever invented they stole from a black man.
SPEAKER 04 :
And that’s one, Joe, where this one I honestly believe that she chooses to not believe that what she’s saying is a lie. In other words, she believes she’s saying the truth because she knowingly doesn’t want to acknowledge the truth. That’s my feeling on somebody like her.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, she’s created her own world, and there’s something called confirmation bias. You selectively believe what you want to believe. and ignore anything that doesn’t fit your preconceived beliefs. So she has that.
SPEAKER 04 :
I’ve got a question for you, Joe, since you’re with me, and I’ve got listeners that are asking me, am I going to cover this this week? And I just haven’t had the chance, but I might as well do it now. And that is, of course, the big takeover of here in Colorado. It’s going to be Channel 9. There’s a few stations here in Colorado. But the big, huge merger that’s being talked about has to be approved, of course. What are your thoughts on all of that?
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, I think, you know, mergers, John, every industry is getting consolidated. I believe, from what I’ve read, that they’re going to have to divest either Fox or Nine News.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay.
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Because one of the FCC rules is you can’t… Control the market. You can’t have more than a certain percentage of the market. So they’ll probably have to divest one or the other. And it doesn’t bother me if they divest Fox because, you know, I think somebody would pick Fox up. Maybe another more conservative network like Crawford would pick up Fox. Not necessarily growth, but I’m just saying… Right, somebody like that would, yeah.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, somebody with a more conservative slant would pick up… And then they would take 9 News and make it more conservative, meaning would the little weenie head Kyle Clark still have a job, or how would that work?
SPEAKER 10 :
No, no, I think if the acquirer elects to keep 9 News, they’ll keep Kyle Clark doing what he’s doing if they elect to spin off Fox. Yeah. Clark’s with 9 News, right?
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, so make sure I’m following right. If they decide to spin off, in other words, they sell off Fox News, they keep Nine News, then do they keep Nine News very liberal like it is now? I don’t see that happening. I would think that they would turn Nine News into more conservative.
SPEAKER 10 :
You know, Jed, that would be great if they did. It would be great to have two conservative stations in Denver.
SPEAKER 04 :
And again, make sure I’m following it, because Charlie said the same thing, because I’m not following either one of you. If they take Fox News, because they own it already, here in Denver, Channel 31, if they decide to spin that off and sell it and they keep the cash cow, which is 9 News, would they not then take 9 News and make it more conservative and send Kyle Clark packing, or no? No.
SPEAKER 09 :
I don’t think, John, if Nine News is making money.
SPEAKER 04 :
I don’t think it is. And this is where, you know, you got to get down to the brass tacks and find out. A lot of people out there think that Nine News is making a boatload of money. I would question whether they’re making as much as people think.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, I think it will all come down to the financials. I mean, what’s his name? Colbert got canceled because the show was losing $40 million a year.
SPEAKER 04 :
I mean, I’d like to see the financials of Nine News, first of all, to determine, you know, that particular station, not all of Tegnet, but Nine News specifically. What’s it actually bringing in? I’ll bet you it’s not as rich as people think.
SPEAKER 10 :
And, John, if they’re not making money or they’re losing money, then maybe a format change is warranted.
SPEAKER 04 :
And really quick, for all of you listening, the reason I say that is if you look at the high-powered folk they’ve got on the news, from Weather to the Kyle Clarks and so on, I think they could very easily be in a similar position to what you just mentioned, Joe, where they may be looking at that saying, wait a minute, yeah, we’ve got a lot of revenue coming in, but we’re spending every last penny of it when it’s all said and done. So there may not be as much money left over as everybody’s thinking is my point.
SPEAKER 10 :
John, you could very well be right. And another observation on, I started looking at this 10 years ago. When I was living in Denver, John, there were a bunch of liberal radio talk show hosts. I mean, I don’t know if you remember, how good your memory. And not just in Denver, there were some national syndicated shows out of Seattle and New York. John, they’ve all dried up.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, they’re not around anymore. You’re right.
SPEAKER 10 :
They’ve dried up. But yet, in the meantime, conservative talk shows like yours and and KOA and KHOW and here in the East Coast. John, I’m in one of the biggest radio markets in the world. And in the morning, John, I can pick from six different conservative news programs. There is not a single liberal radio station that I can find in the greater New York City market. So what’s that telling you about the taste of the audiences when it comes to their appetite for liberal news and opinion.
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Well, and more power to Nexstar for doing this, and they’re paying $6.2 billion. Truthfully, if it were me, and maybe they’ve got a different outlook, and maybe they know something that I don’t know, but personally, Joe, I wouldn’t be buying anything in regular over-the-air wave television ends of things, period, because I believe there’s more and more people like myself that I haven’t watched a 9 News or a Fox 31 or an anything episode in years now because I cut the cord a long time ago and I don’t watch over-the-air stuff at all, period. Yeah.
SPEAKER 10 :
And before I left, John, I cut the Denver Post off. I just couldn’t stomach the Denver Post anymore.
SPEAKER 04 :
So given there’s more and more people like you and I, was this even a good investment?
SPEAKER 10 :
John, well, you know, the partnership I’m in, we look for businesses that are struggling, and we say, what’s wrong with this business? You ever see the Gordon Ramsay restaurant show?
SPEAKER 04 :
Oh, yes, absolutely. Yes, yes, yes.
SPEAKER 10 :
It’s a three-part equation. Correct. Diagnosis, what’s wrong? Prescription, what’s wrong? you know, what do we have to do to fix it? And then three, managing the change process. When my partners, we look for businesses that are, you know, getting by but struggling, and we say, why are they struggling? Can we fix it? And, you know, and do we think that the team is willing to accept the change? So, To the extent that you can find a business, you can buy cheap.
SPEAKER 04 :
But the problem with this, Joe, and everything you’re saying, spot on, totally agree with. My feeling on, you know, a 9 News, for example, or just regular over-the-airwave type television stations in general is the audience is not moving up. It’s shrinking, and I don’t see, unless I’m wrong, I don’t see that changing.
SPEAKER 10 :
And in which case, then it’s a bad decision. But if they believe, when you look at who the big names are, John, you’ve got Hannity, Glenn Beck, Mark Levin, you know, all the big Joe Pags, these guys are all. So maybe if they believe, right or wrong, if they have a belief that we can fix this and make it better, like a Gordon Ramsay restaurant rescue.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, you could be right. That remains to be seen.
SPEAKER 04 :
You could be right. And, again, personally, just not a space that – I wouldn’t be – personally, I wouldn’t be spending $6.2 billion. And somebody did mention a moment ago in a text message that kind of to my point about 9 News, even maybe proving a little bit of what I was saying, they have – gone through and laid off and changed a bunch of personalities over there. My gut feeling is, Joe, either A, positioning for a sale and trying to get the books cleaned up and make them look better, or they just don’t have the cash in the first place and they’re trying to make things profitable. In other words, I don’t think it’s as big a cash cow as others might think.
SPEAKER 10 :
No, and I don’t think it all hinges on just 9 News. I mean, there’s a lot more.
SPEAKER 04 :
I agree. Of course.
SPEAKER 10 :
There’s a lot more than just, you know, they’ve got a lot more.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, they’re buying Tegna, which is everything. It just happens to include 9 News in this case.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, so maybe 9 News is 3% of the total. I get it. You know, maybe 9 News is a throwaway from that perspective.
SPEAKER 04 :
Could be. And maybe, who knows, maybe that is when they spin off and settle somebody else. Who knows at the end of the day?
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, maybe they keep Fox and spin off 9 News.
SPEAKER 04 :
You never know. It’s hard to say.
SPEAKER 10 :
All right. All right.
SPEAKER 04 :
Joe, always good stuff. I appreciate it. Listeners love you. Thank you for what you do.
SPEAKER 10 :
My pleasure. You take care.
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All right, and a lot of you, again, texting in, it’s been a big topic for some of you, and I’ll be straight up honest, I haven’t spent a lot of time talking about that whole potential merger or buyout, I guess I should say, honestly, because it’s one of those where until the fat lady sings, I don’t really worry too much about it. I don’t do too much speculating. Now, I will say that Some of you sent me some articles from some things that have been posted around town to where it even looked like if you didn’t know any better, you would think Kyle Clark was, you know, giving everybody his formal announcement that he’s leaving. So who knows what will happen? You guys know I have no love there whatsoever. There’s a lot of folks out there that think Kyle Clark’s one of the best journalists in town, and I would highly, highly disagree with that. He’s nothing but a little snake and has so much slant to what he does, you don’t consider that journalism. He’s definitely a hardcore lefty and shows that every single time he does a story, that comes out loud and clear. In my opinion, that is not unbiased journalism. That is very biased opinion. He might as well just have an opinion piece. It’s not journalism and news, in my opinion. So, in other news. James Dobson, folks on the family, which a lot of us here in Colorado know, heard him on, a lot of you probably heard him over the airwaves for years and years and years. Great organization, did a lot of great things throughout the years he passed away today. I think he was 89, am I right, Charlie, 89 years old? uh passed away and what charlie was saying which this is the other flip side of the story which great man did a lot of great things and again did i agree with every single thing he did i don’t agree with every single thing anybody does but for the most part solid guy solid operation they did a lot of great things and the vileness of people responding to those news stories on a lot of different platforms outside of fox news those of you that are on the left you should be ashamed of yourself Just the vileness, you know, this is a person that did a lot of great things in this world for a lot of great people, and you may not like him in what he did, but to then attack him after he’s dead, you know, basically talking about how you’re glad he is and so on, just utter nonsense. Again, showing the true colors of those folks that are on the left. Jennifer, go ahead.
SPEAKER 11 :
Hi, John. There was a question about how there isn’t left wing talk radio so much in the country anymore.
SPEAKER 04 :
Not as much as they’re used. You know, honestly, Jennifer, there’s never been a ton per se. You know, there were the Allenbergs and some of those of the of the day. But, you know, there’s never been, in my opinion, near the numbers that we have on the conservative side. You know, Rush Limbaugh started all that, as you know.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, long before him, I was listening to a guy by the name of Joe Pine. Look him up sometime.
SPEAKER 04 :
Joe Pine, okay.
SPEAKER 11 :
P-Y-N-E. He was the original hardcore shock talk show host in the early 60s.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 11 :
Anyway, there’s a real good reason for it. My experience with people on the far left and the left is they can’t really pay attention to something unless it has pictures.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 11 :
I’m not kidding. They’ve got to have a TV screen that they can look at.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, I’m not, you know, in other words, the audience. You’re not talking about the host. You’re talking about the audience. Typically, they won’t listen and tune in and interchange with that particular talk show host because they have to have pictures. In other words, it has to be TV.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, exactly.
SPEAKER 04 :
I don’t know. You know, honestly, Jennifer, I can’t argue with that. I think you’re pretty correct in that.
SPEAKER 11 :
One thing I wanted to ask you about is, you heard about this business about painting the wall black?
SPEAKER 04 :
Painting the wall black, no.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, painting the wall.
SPEAKER 04 :
Oh, the southern border, the southern border wall. Okay, sorry, sorry, sorry. Yes, yes, yes. Okay, yes.
SPEAKER 11 :
Aren’t they painting the north side of the wall?
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, I would think that you would want to paint both sides for the rust protection and so on, so my thought would be you’d paint both sides.
SPEAKER 11 :
I don’t think they can really get to the other side, though.
SPEAKER 04 :
Don’t we have, like, an easement or something along that to do maintenance and so on, if need be?
SPEAKER 11 :
Maybe, but I have the definite impression they’re only painting the north side. Interesting. So it’s like, okay, you get a little insulation to keep the heat in from the thickness of the paint. But since it’s in the shadow, it doesn’t really matter what color it is.
SPEAKER 04 :
Is there controversy over the color? Am I missing something there? I’ve not read a ton about this. Oh, it’s supposed to make it hotter. I see.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, yeah. Supposedly it’ll be 20 degrees hotter. Well, but the thing is, if it never is in the sun, it’s never really going to do that.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, and truthfully, even that darker reddish color that I’ve seen it be in the past, that’s generating heat as well, especially in the area that that border wall is in. So, you know, I’ve been around enough steel in my life, Jennifer, and the things that I have done that, trust me, it’s hot already. So, yeah, you can paint it black and probably increase it. I’m not sure that I would buy the 20%. increase, to your point, given that if it’s only going to be on the north side, I don’t see that happening. Sorry, that to me, that doesn’t work.
SPEAKER 11 :
Exactly. My opinion, too. And the fact that it has that reddish rust coating on it means it’s kind of protected anyway.
SPEAKER 04 :
It is. And again, I picked up enough steel that sat out in the sun, even with that particular coating on it. And I will tell you, Jennifer, that if you don’t have a pair of gloves on, you’re not touching it on a hot day. So it’s hot anyways.
SPEAKER 11 :
Absolutely. Thanks, John.
SPEAKER 04 :
No, great comments, Jennifer. I had not been keeping up a lot on the color of the wall. I apologize. I’m sorry to sound ignorant there a moment ago, but that’s not something I’ve really spent a lot of time on. And I’m not sure after Jennifer just talked to me on that, I would spend much more time on it because at the end of the day, I look at that being irrelevant. I wouldn’t paint it white, of course. I would leave it a darker color for the heat sides of things. But at the end of the day, I don’t think it’s going to change things dramatically. a whole lot when it’s all said and done all right one thing i want to talk about i need to take a break let me do this i gotta get caught up let me take a quick break i need to come back uh very fairly quickly because we get behind with joe because we go a longer time which i enjoy doing and i know you all let’s do it you all do as well so give me a minute here i’ll come right back i’ve got something to talk about when it comes to cracker barrel roof savers of colorado coming up next though when it comes to your roof make sure you’re dialed in dave can extend the life of your current roof may help you out on the insurance sides of things especially if you’ve gotten a notice that says hey we’re not going to insure you any longer because of the condition of your roof Talk today before you do anything else. 303-710-6916.
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All right, we are back. Cracker Barrel. I was going to talk about this yesterday. Didn’t get a chance to. So they’re changing several things around. They’ve done a couple of things that backfired and didn’t go so well. And for those of you that don’t know Cracker Barrel, there are a few of them around the Denver area. And they have been known in the past for their, you know, fried okra, chicken fried steak. It’s sort of, you know, southern cuisine. You know, cooking, I guess you could say they’ve got tons and tons of artifacts. In a lot of cases, you could even buy some of the artifacts. Last I read, there were even antique buyers that would run around the country buying different things for all of the stores and so on. Well, they’ve sort of… Gotten away from some of that. They’re, quote-unquote, cleaning the store up on the inside, getting rid of some of that, painting the walls white. They’re now looking at a logo change. They changed the outside chairs from Rockers to Adirondack, which, by the way, didn’t go well. They’ve switched back to Rockers. So they’re trying some things to change the, quote-unquote, image of Cracker Barrel. Now, you know what? Whatever they want to do. More power to them, to each their own. I think it’s a bad move. If they were struggling with their customer base and they didn’t have good sales and they were trying to rebrand themselves because of that, then, you know what, then, okay, fine. This is, by the way, a $700 million rebrand. Not cheap. That’s expensive. Rebrands are expensive. By the way, even on a sole proprietorship where you take your business logo and make a bunch of changes and so on, it’s not cheap to do all of that. Just what you have to do in signage and so on, it’s an expensive thing. So do that over and over again on the corporate level like they’re doing. And yes, I can see why it’s $700 million. It’s expensive. And frankly, I don’t know that it’s necessary. If you want to do a few things at a time, go for it. In fact, my advice to them would have been, knowing your customer base. knowing who your target audience right now is, you may not like them, but they are there spending money, I would slowly make some of these changes. I would not do it overnight. I’m not in charge. Some, according to Charlie, middle-aged woman is. We were laughing earlier because I think she’s older than middle-aged, but I could be wrong. I could be wrong. I guess it depends on what your definition of middle-age is. At any rate, They’ve also signed agreements to be sponsors to like the Nashville Pride Parade, and they’ve gotten involved in a bunch of other LGBTQ organizations. And again, if that’s what they want to do, more power to them. But I think, as I always say and Andy says, especially as I coach my business clients, that’s not their core. That isn’t their core client. Now, maybe they’re trying to attract another type of client, but I – I hate to break the news to them, unless you’re going to make an entire menu change and change the entire face of what you do as Cracker Barrel, all you’re really going to do is tick off your core client. And if I could sit down with their CEO for even an hour, I think I could share a lot of things with her. She’s probably not going to listen, but I could share a lot of things with her that would hopefully help her to understand that while she’s wanting to go a different direction, and she’s a pretty woke individual, by the way. She is very DEI and all of that. That’s just who she is. Very well known for that. I’m not saying anything out of line. That’s who she is. You can go look it up. But at the end of the day, I mean, she can make whatever changes she wants to. She’s in charge. Somebody put her in charge. More power to them. But it’s going to affect their sales. And this is not wise on their part because they’re going to make their customer base mad. The customer base will end up going someplace else. And in the restaurant business, what you really have to be careful of, any business, by the way, but the restaurant business especially, you saw this during COVID. As Andy and I have said many times, this was Andy’s phrase that he coined during COVID, when people change their flight patterns, they won’t come back. And it’s really important in the restaurant world. It’s important in every business, as I said a moment ago, because it can happen to any business, from car repair to whatever. I understand. Flight patterns can change. And when they do, you’re liable to lose that customer for good. But in the restaurant world especially, because there are so many choices on what you can do to go eat. Cracker Barrel is kind of one of those, and I don’t think I’m wrong in saying this, Charlie, it’s more of a destination. If you’re a person that’s really into fried okra and chicken fried steak and gravy and all of that, the gift shop and so on, you’re going to Cracker Barrel. That’s why you’re going, by the way. You like all of that stuff. Now, personally, and I hope I don’t offend anybody here, not my restaurant. And it’s not because of what they’re doing now. It wasn’t my restaurant before they did logo changes and things like that. Just not my kind of food. As you guys all know and listen to me on Wednesdays and Thursdays, there’s probably some things there I could go and eat that would be healthy and so on. But that’s not going to be my first choice of place to eat. I mean, most of what they’re going to serve me is a gut bomb. I don’t know how else to say it. It’s like that would not go over well with me, period. Not the way I eat. So not my place anyways. But they’re going after a completely different set of customers in what they’re doing versus what they have now. Again, I’m kind of, Charlie said this earlier, you didn’t hear him, but I don’t care what they change, logo-wise, store-wise, whatever. I mean, they can do whatever they want to. It’s more power to them. In fact, I would say, and I think Charlie would agree, that the logo now is probably a little easier to read than what it has been. And if that was the only thing they’re changing, I don’t think they’d have any flack. But you combine it with the rocking chair change to the interior decoration change to their involvement now with the LGBTQ community. And we go down the list. Well, geez, now you’re really ticking off your core customer. Not smart, by the way. My prediction is this doesn’t go well. Because unfortunately, at the end of the day, even somebody like me, I’m going to know Cracker Barrel as Cracker Barrel. Unless they make, like I said, a complete menu change, it’s not my store. It’s not my restaurant, I should say. It’s a store, too. That’s what’s kind of cool about it is – and I have been, as you can tell. I’ve been numerous times with my family in the past where, you know, you can go in and shop and do this and do that. And, you know, I – I’m going to make somebody mad. I’m not an antique guy. I’m sorry. I walk in that place and I just want to get a roll-off dumpster and start pitching. That’s just me. Sorry. And Charlie’s in there laughing at me because that’s just me. Literally, I roll in there and I just start looking around. I get a headache. I’m like, can I throw all this crap away sooner than later? Because that’s me. So that store, that restaurant does nothing for me. But I’m not its core client. Right? OK, I’m not the person that’s been going to Cracker Barrel for eons wanting to wanting to drive to eat there because that’s typically what you do. They’re more destination driven even where they’re located. So they’re set up that way and it’s not my kind of place. So let’s do this. 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It’s time to leave your safe space. This is Rush to Reason on KLZ 560. All right, John and Cheyenne, you’re next. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 14 :
You know what the thing I always liked about Cracker Barrel was? Whether you’re in Tennessee, West Virginia, Alabama, or anywhere between there and the coast, it’s the same thing. You’re going to get the same thing. So if you need breakfast and you’re on a road trip, you know what you’re going to get.
SPEAKER 04 :
You know what I mean? Gotcha.
SPEAKER 14 :
So it’s one of those comfort food places. But if you go to the South, John, there’ll be an hour wait after church for Cracker Barrel.
SPEAKER 04 :
Oh, yeah. Yeah, I’ve sat through some of those lines because of family and stuff, John. Yes, absolutely I have.
SPEAKER 14 :
Me, I’d rather find a local diner. Usually their breakfasts are better. But if you’re, you know, But if you’re traveling and you don’t know where you are and you’re just on a road trip and you’ve got to stop and grab something to eat, you know what you’re going to get.
SPEAKER 04 :
Gotcha.
SPEAKER 14 :
And that’s always… You know, kind of like stopping at Outback or Texas Roadhouse.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, I get it. No, I get what you’re saying. That makes total sense. Yeah, I understand that. Yeah.
SPEAKER 14 :
But if they change everything and they change the menu, then it’s going to turn people away. So… I don’t know.
SPEAKER 04 :
My whole thinking on this whole rebrand is they’re trying to attract a customer like me, John, but I’ll just tell you straight up, they’re not going to no matter what they do. I’m not going in that restaurant, period. It’s not my place, no matter what.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, I mean, if you go in there… The way, you know, you get bacon and eggs now or sausage and eggs. That wouldn’t hurt you.
SPEAKER 04 :
No, but I mean, just I mean, again, for me, I already gave you and let’s take all that crap off the wall. And I know people go for the gift store and all that. To me personally, in my personality, I look at all that stuff. I want to roll off dumpster and I want to start pitching. That’s all I can concentrate on when I’m in the stupid restaurant.
SPEAKER 14 :
Oh, I see what you’re saying.
SPEAKER 04 :
So it’s not my place at all. The atmosphere just isn’t me. Sorry.
SPEAKER 14 :
Okay. And, you know, if I have a choice, I won’t go there. But if it’s the only thing available, I know what kind of food I’m going to get.
SPEAKER 04 :
And there is something to be said for that. That I can understand.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah. You know, sometimes you just want something that you know you’re not going to, you know. You go into a little diner in a small town, you’re taking a chance. Is it going to be great? Is it going to be horrible?
SPEAKER 04 :
I get that. And for everybody listening, I’ll do greasy spoons. I’ll do stuff like that all day long. That doesn’t bother me. Just crack or barrel for some reason. I just walk in the door and I’m just like, okay, where do I start? I got to start pitching. Where do I start? Yeah. Is that your OCD? Yeah, I guess so. Yeah. And I’m not an antique guy. Somebody texted and said, do I and my wife not go antiquing together? My wife will, not me. All that stuff. I want to take a shower after I’m done with one of those places.
SPEAKER 14 :
Oh, okay. Well, yeah, and like you said, it’s not the food as much as it’s the atmosphere that turns you off.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, yeah, exactly. Good way to say it, John. Perfect saying. Thank you. Yes, absolutely.
SPEAKER 14 :
Like you say, if you go in for pancakes and sausage, you’ve got to get pancakes and sausage. It’s going to be good. That’s right. It’s going to be great. No.
SPEAKER 04 :
That’s fine.
SPEAKER 14 :
It’s going to be as good as what you can make at home, but it’s going to be okay.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right, exactly.
SPEAKER 14 :
John, have a great rest of your day.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well said. John, thank you very much. I appreciate it. Some of you I know are probably making you laugh when the text messages. And I’m dead serious. I am serious. Anytime my family, my brother, when he was alive, he loved Cracker Barrel. And if there was a chance to go, that’s what we would do and so on. And I would go just because it was him and so on. And I’ll just be straight up honest, not my place. I went just because family loved it, but is not my favorite place to go. Never has been and never will be. And especially now, all of what they’re doing again, I feel like they’re trying to do a makeover, which, OK, fine. This is the problem a lot of companies have, though, when they do this. Who is their real target audience when it’s all said and done? I mean, are you just doing this to do it to be more woke and let people know that you’re woke? Or do you really have a target audience in mind that you’re really going after? And if you are, OK, that’s fine. But you’re going to tick off all of your main clients, meaning that your sales are going to take a huge hit until those new customers start rolling in. I just see this as a complete recipe for disaster. Sorry for the pun there, but this is a recipe for disaster at Cracker Barrel. I don’t see this panning out for them when it’s all said and done. Dr. Scott coming up next and a great doctor. Talked to him today, by the way, and he wants to help you with all of your medical needs, whether that be looking to be healthier, whether you’ve got some ailments. I had a good friend of mine actually call me this morning. and ask, hey, I need some help. I don’t feel as well as I used to. I don’t know why. I can’t put my finger on it. Is this something you think Dr. Scott would be willing to help me with? And I said, absolutely, he would help you with that. That’s exactly what he does. And if you’re somebody where you just don’t feel right, something feels off, your regular medical providers, your regular doctors are not getting to the bottom of it. This is what he specializes in. Talk to Scott today, 303-663-6990.
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All right, that’s it for this Thursday night. Tomorrow, movie reviews. It’s Nisha 2 and Relay. That’s what Andy’s reviewing. And then Movie Rental Hour are going to be movies that we wish we’d never seen or movies that you regret seeing. Have a great night. Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
