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Switching gears, John shifts attention to the issue of broadband expansion in rural America. Recent federal funds aim to enhance broadband access, but are traditional infrastructure projects the best solution? John argues for modern alternatives like Starlink, which could provide rapid and economical access. Explore the possibilities and challenges of rural broadband and discover why certain solutions might be more efficient than others.
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All right, welcome. Happy Tuesday, everybody. Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Labor Day is, or the weekend, I should say, fast approaching. A little bit of stormy weather this week, which was predicted, so hopefully it’ll be nice by the weekend. So, question of the day, from yesterday. This one was pretty easy, by the way. Most of you had several text messages along these lines, and most of you, or all of you that texted, were spot on. Which state became the first state in the United States? Delaware, I believe it’s even on their website. So that one’s fairly easy. Today’s impossible question, what could help you increase your lifespan even if you begin at an old age? So what could help increase your lifespan even if you begin at an old age? That is today’s question of the day. Answer that again on our Rush to Reason Facebook page. Okay. As I was reading through lots of different things this morning and looking at different talking points for today, and I’ve got several things that we didn’t even get to yesterday that I’ll cover today as well. I’ve got several guests lined up for today as well. But one thing that I was reading, which Andy and I have talked about this a lot, and we’ve had many a discussion slash argument with certain individuals that have been guests here or callers or whatever, and that’s on the subject of tariffs. And the fact that Andy and I both feel like they’re not only needed, they’re long overdue. It levels the playing field. I know a lot of people don’t necessarily agree with me on that, but they do. And they level it in many ways. And one of the ways, of course, that they level it is they bring revenue in because as, and I get it, depending upon the circumstance and depending on that particular company, that manufacturer, some tariffs will be eaten, or should the cost of the tariff, excuse me, I had to sneeze, the cost of that tariff can sometimes be absorbed by the manufacturer, can sometimes be absorbed by the importer, and in some cases, the end user will pay that. And it just depends on the market, to be honest with you. How competitive is that particular item? Who do they have that if somebody, if they didn’t lower their, or if they didn’t keep their prices the same, in other words, if they didn’t absorb some of those costs and they ended up having to pass those along, in some cases that 15% or more might be enough of a bump that somebody doesn’t buy that product anymore, they’ll go buy something else. And the manufacturers and the importers look at all of that. And at the end of the day, you may only see as an end user a 5% increase, for example. Or in some cases, no increase. It just depends on the circumstances and on that particular product. But what they do do is, and this is something that we all can’t forget, no matter what happens at the end user price, that retail price, it still gets paid. The tariffs are still paid. And so there was a opinion piece on Fox News this morning. It’s entitled, Morning Glory, Are President Trump’s Tariffs Actually Working? If so, will skeptics revise their disdain for them? And there is utter disdain for tariffs. You hear it from our side. You hear it from the left. It’s funny how the left does that, because if this was one of their folk doing it, you wouldn’t have the same whining and complaining. But even our side does. So this is interesting. There’s a new report that was released from the CBO, the Congressional Budget Office, that is surprising or even stunning. The CBO is not thought to be a friend of the Republican presidents and congresses. I’ve said that for years, by the way. The CBO, even the way they figure some things at times, I’d like to know their calculations and where they’re coming up with stuff, because I think they do a lot of things. And remember, when you’re looking at budgets in the future of Congress, I’ve sat through enough meetings and enough budget meetings and so on to where, in some cases, it’s a swag. And you all know what a swag is. They don’t really know what some of the fill-in-the-blanks are going to be. They guess. But in this particular case, and they’re not a friend of the Republicans, period. They’re not a friend of conservatives. Let’s just say that. And I know they’re supposed to be independent, and they’ll claim to be, but they’re not. No more than the Fed’s independent. So questions always arise from supply siders about whether CBO rejects serious dynamic scoring of developments in the law and in major regulatory actions, whether the agency’s methodology is issued in an issue to report on the Trump tariffs at the close of last week. So we project, this is the CBO, that increases in tariffs implemented during the period from January 6th through August 19th of 2025 will decrease primary deficits, which exclude net outlays for interest, by $3.3 trillion if the higher tariffs persist from 2025 to 2035. That’s a Philip Swaggle. That’s the CBO’s director. By reducing the need for federal borrowing, those tariffs collections will also reduce federal outlays for interest by an additional $0.7 trillion, so $700 billion. As a result, the change in tariffs will reduce the total deficit by $4 trillion altogether. That was news that came out Friday. Have you heard any of this, by the way? in any of the news media outlets, including Fox News and others. This is an opinion piece, by the way. This should actually be a news piece. So a question I have for everybody, have you heard this from anyone? I hadn’t. And you guys know, I mean, I don’t scour every single news organization every single day, but I do a pretty good job of looking at things, and so do all of you. And you guys will even send me things at times that I haven’t picked up. So all in all, collectively, we do a pretty good job of knowing what’s in the news. And I didn’t hear this anywhere. So bottom line, will the tariffs help offset things? Yes. Is it an end all? Of course not. There’s lots of other things that we need to do on top of tariffs to get our not only our budget back in play, you know, back into balance, but then also pay off the debt. This is a good start, though. Huge start. And we need to do more of this. And my point with the CBO, and it’ll be interesting to talk to Jordan Goodman next month in September, because I’m one that I’m always a skeptic of the CBO, because frankly, they’re rarely right on their predictions. They’re rarely right because they don’t factor in certain things that are out there that will have an effect upon revenues, for example, as you grow the economy and revenues increase. So, for example, if the Fed will actually lower interest rates and that moves the needle in a positive direction, economically speaking, what does that do at the end of the day for everything? The CBO doesn’t typically look at that. Yeah, they might a little bit, but not like they should. They don’t really account for growth is my point. They do, but in a very minor way. So it’ll be interesting to see what they do moving forward. And again, there’s hardly any news on this at all. And frankly, I believe that there’s not much news on it because most people want terrorists and Trump to be wrong. Nobody wants to admit that it’s the right thing to do. especially the skeptics, the quote-unquote economic experts. They’re definitely not going to admit to this. All right, Dr. Scott coming up next. Great doctor. He’s my doctor, by the way. Wants to help you with all of your medical needs, whatever they happen to be. And what I would say is give him a call, and I get questions that come in from time to time asking me certain things along these lines. And my normal answer back is, you know, the best thing to do is just call Dr. Scott because I’m not a doctor. I can’t answer medical questions. I don’t even try to play one on the radio, so asking me medical things, I interview a lot of people and I’ve got an idea on some things, but I am by no means in a position of advising on what to do health-wise with anything at all. So best thing to do is just call Scott. 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All right. We are back again. Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Thanks for tuning in each and every day that you do. I get a lot of you that let me know that. Some of you even from a very long distance away, which I appreciate those of you that listen out of our area as well. I mean that. I really do. I appreciate that very much. Speaking of out of the area or rural areas is what I should say. And this is something that I’ve been talking about now. for a while with all of the money that was allocated towards rural Colorado or rural areas, Colorado being one of them, but rural America is what I should say. And the amount of money, the billions of dollars that were allocated under Joe Biden and his administration for bringing broadband service to a lot of those rural areas. And some of the estimates of what that was going to take was staggering, in my opinion, far more than what it should have been. And why we weren’t looking more at Starlink and some of the other systems that are available versus just running cable and wire was beyond me. Well, it looks like somebody finally got a brain, and we are now awarding Amazon and Starlink and some others, those two mainly, though, in regards to getting broadband into some of those areas for a much, much, much reduced price. Their bids, by the way, are a fraction smaller of the price of what was allocated for colorado colorado has an 826 million dollar budget for this by the way which is ridiculous that is taxpayer money that could go someplace else and be used in a much better way that is absolutely ridiculous especially with what elon musk has done with starlink i i i don’t think i would be exaggerating in saying this i think you could give buy and give every single rural area that doesn’t have any kind of broadband access. You could literally give them Starlink and pay their monthly subscription. for far less than $826 million. Again, I would have to do the math because I don’t know how many areas in Colorado we have that are underserved. I doubt it’s as high as most people think because a lot of areas, even though they’re rural, still have the ability to have some sort of broadband. and I don’t know what the exact numbers are, 50% – so the low Earth orbit services like Starlink, they won 50% of the state’s approximately 90,000 eligible locations. So there’s 90,000 eligible locations. So real quick, I can do this math because I know what the cost of Starlink is because you hear my son Richard periodically. He has it. So I kind of know what the cost is. So most of the units, if you’ve got a bulk deal – You could easily buy those units for about $250 a pop. That’s $22 million right there if you bought every single one of those people a Starlink system. So $22 million would buy those 90,000 homes a Starlink. The monthly service is about $150 or so. And again, you could get a bulk deal, and I bet you you could get a bulk deal and probably get that down to around $100 or so a month, I’m guessing. meaning it’s $9 million a month. So if you did that for even a year, that’s $108 million. Keep in mind, there’s $826 million. And by the way, that $826 is just to deliver the service. You’re not paying for anybody’s service once you bring it to their door. They’re still signing up and paying. I just figured a way to where you could literally buy them all a dish, essentially is what it is, and pay for their service for a year and still save gobs of money. It’s roughly a third of that $826 million. So you could have a 70% savings and give people broadband for a year in my model on those 90,000 homes. Why has no one at our state level sat down and done what I just did in a matter of 30 seconds? And believe me, there’s probably more that I could even get into along those lines. Again, give me the ability to go meet with whoever’s in charge of their contracts for Starlink, and let me sit down with them and say, I’m the state of Colorado. I’ve got 90,000 homes we’re going to hook up. I want 90,000 of your units done, installed, and handled. What kind of a deal can I get on 90,000? And then I want service for a year on top of that. What kind of a package deal can you make me per home? Guarantee you I could sit down and within a couple of hours have that deal done. No problem. And do it for a fraction of that $826 million that’s been allocated. Meaning that money could go somewhere else or just go back to the feds and Mr. Fed go spend it somewhere else. But we don’t do that. So there was public comment on the preliminary winners and blah, blah, blah. Again, this is the problem with government is too much red tape, too much nonsense. You know what the answer is here. No one’s going to be able to bring in broadband to a rural home any cheaper than Starlink. Period. Period. It doesn’t exist. And how do I know this? Because I know that business. And I know what’s going on there. I know how much it takes to lay cable per foot per mile. You can’t do it that cheap. It just it’s impossible. And why no one at the state level can sit down and do what I’m doing right now is beyond me. This is ridiculous. And I’ve been talking about this in kind of a roundabout way now for a couple of years, ever since this money was allocated. It’s a joke. There is no reason why – by the way, the original program is $42 billion coast-to-coast. $42 billion. Not million, billion. Again, I guarantee you I could sit down with every single one of these rural areas and then sit down with Elon Musk or whoever he’s got in charge of that particular division – and come up with a plan whereby you could get this done for a fraction of that $42 billion. Which, again, he even said that at one time, I believe. So I’m not saying anything that isn’t already known. Elon Musk, I think, has even said that in the past, if I’m not mistaken. So there’s been some other winners, by the way, in all of this, Amazon being one. Maverick Broadband is another one. Highline, SpaceX, which has a very small percentage of this, by the way. Inventive Wireless. It’s a patchwork. By the way, stupid. Dumb. I could have done all of this in one fell swoop and not spent anybody’s time, effort or energy on this because there’s one answer. Starlink. Period. End of discussion. I don’t quite understand why we’re having to go. And again, I get it. It’s government. We have to go through all of this because that’s what government says. And that’s why government is so inefficient, because they do things that are dumb. And even some of these bids that came in from some of these particular companies, even Amazon, at $560 a location, far too much. You could do it for half that. Half. I’m not joking. I know what the units cost, and that’s if you went to Costco and bought one. You could literally cut these bills in half by getting a bulk deal. Some of these are averaging $1,700 a site, which is too much. So, again, there’s ways to get around this. And by the way, even in this particular award, Starlink is too high, in my opinion. But in their defense, they’re only getting 5,400 of the 90,000 locations in Colorado. They’re only getting 5,400 of those. So, yeah, their price is going to be higher because there’s not as much of a bulk deal. So anytime I read these things, it just makes my blood boil because it’s just a flat out waste of tax dollars. So many other ways to do this and make this work better. But you have these people that think they’re smarter than everybody else running this. And the fact of the matter is they’re not smart. So it’ll be interesting to see how this all shakes out. And I get the fact that, yes, we want to have high-speed internet to a lot of different people that right now probably don’t have. I was amazed. I didn’t talk about this much. But was it last week, Charlie, the AOL finally shut its dial? It’s dial-up modem network down finally. So dial-up for AOL finally shut down last week. I had no idea there was that many millions of people Still using dial-up, there is, or there was until last week. I was shocked by that. I thought, good night, those are dark ages. I didn’t realize that service even still existed, but in some areas it did. So I understand the need to get people up to speed when it comes to broadband and the Internet and so on. I fully understand that. But to be still dinking around with this when we could have had Starlink in a bunch of these locations already up, running, and done, you probably could have had the whole 90,000 done by now. We’re still figuring out who’s going to do it as a state. Ridiculous. And we’re worried about in Colorado. Keep this in the back of your mind. Our state budget is off by about $750 million or so. Last I checked, they’re working on as we speak. I’m not saying you could have allocated $750 million out of this $846 million from this because I don’t know what the rules are around that. But I would have been working on how can we tap into that by lowering the overall cost of broadband, and will that free up some of this budget money to go someplace else? And I don’t know the stipulations. Probably the feds say it has to get spent some way, somehow, but you’ve got to wonder how else could you have done that. That’s what I would have been spending some time working on. not some of the other things that’s going on in the budget, which I may get to today. We’ll see. Veteran Windows and Doors. Speaking of budgets, Dave can help you save money when it comes to your window and door budget because he takes out the middleman. He saves you money in doing so. And all you need to do is go to klzradio.com and find him there.
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So one of you, by the way, sent me a really nice email on how tariffs actually work inside the government. In other words, where do the payments actually go? And they do go to the general fund. And in that case, those monies are used. And yes, monies are fungible inside the government. But those monies are then used for all sorts of things that we have that, you know, budgetarily speaking, they get to use and they work well. Very well. So it’s one of those. And by the way, thank you for sending me this. It really kind of spells out point by point exactly where these things go. It goes to handle things for national defense. It pays out refunds and different things inside of the government. It pays their bills, blah, blah, blah. On and on we go. And there’s about, I don’t know, eight or nine things here that are listed that it does, maybe eight things. And there’s more, by the way, because it’s, as I said, the money is fungible, so it goes to all sorts of different things. And, again, thank you for sending me this. I appreciate that very much. It does say here at the bottom that these costs are usually passed on to consumers, but I explained that earlier. It’s not always that way. It really depends on the market, the product, what the competition is like, how much room that exporter actually has in profit that they could actually lower things down and still stay competitive. Same thing on the import side and so on. Those are all things, by the way, that most people will never tell you when it’s all said and done. So our next guest joining us now, Christina Bob, joining us. Christina, welcome. How are you?
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Hey, great. Thanks so much for having me.
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I appreciate it. Welcome back, by the way, author of Defiant Inside the Mar-a-Lago Raid and the Left’s Ongoing Warfare. And we learned some things even this last week in regards to a lot of the things that have happened in regards to, you know, Donald Trump and just a lot of the, you know, not just accusations, but the trials, all the things that have gone on there and just the literal kangaroo court that was happening through a lot of that.
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Oh, yeah. I mean, I think the left is getting very nervous right now because they threw everything they had at him and at this country and at the American people and it didn’t work. And now he’s back in control and he wants to clean out the corruption and they’re getting nervous.
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You know what? I don’t think I can argue with that. I think they are as well. I think they’re really looking at several things. And by the way, I think it’s partly why I was just talking in the first part of the program today about tariffs and what the CBO has finally come out and said that, oh, these things actually will actually help reduce tariffs. the national debt and do some positive things and so yeah shocking imagine that by the way and that’s things i’ve been talking about for a while yeah these things are actually now coming to fruition fruition you’ve actually got the cbo which by the way is never our friend in my opinion uh they’ve actually come out and verified some of these things and i think uh part of this christina is the fact that the left wants to do every single thing they possibly can to throw, what should I say, water onto the fire of what Trump’s doing. Anything they can do, they do their best at it. The problem is the fire’s not going out.
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Yeah, no, that’s exactly right. Donald Trump is just prevailing. I mean, it’s pretty remarkable to watch. And myself, you know, I also was indicted. I’m still a criminal defendant, although my indictment’s been turned out. And they threw everything that they had at us. And sometimes I look around and go, oh, my gosh, how did we make it? You know, and the lawfare with Mar-a-Lago and gosh, it’s just it’s It’s exciting to see what he’s doing. And I think it has shaped his presidency, really, and how he views his role in his administration this time, because he knows he knows how awful they will be if he doesn’t accomplish what he needs to accomplish.
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No, that’s a great point. And yes, for all of you out there listening, you, Christina, have firsthand knowledge as to how a lot of this working. We all watch this from the sidelines. You are in the game.
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Yeah, kind of unbeknownst to me. I didn’t realize it until I got indicted and sued and subpoenaed and all of that stuff. But yeah, I was President Trump’s representative. I was one of his staff attorneys on site during the Mar-a-Lago raid. I was the custodian of records for that. I got sucked into the January 6th investigation, both Jack Smith investigations, because I had volunteered to work for Rudy Giuliani post-2020. And so I had all the 2020 election information and I just was in the brunt of everything. And I’m so honored that President Trump did the foreword for this book. This is the official version of what actually happened at Mar-a-Lago.
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Thank you for saying that was one thing I was going to get to. So thank you for sort of leading the way. What are people going to actually find in the book? What makes this one different than some of the other ones that have been written?
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This is actually what happened. I was watching, I think it was Fox. One of the big Fox folks who I actually typically respect was kind of summarizing the raid, comparing it to John Bolton’s. And I was like, God, they have no idea what happened. And so you get I mean, I’ve got text messages, emails. I’ve got the timeline. I’ve got the discussions, all the communications, everything. You know, I met with the Department of Justice and the FBI prior to about two months prior to the raid. They did have a grand jury subpoena, but they didn’t have a crime, which, you know, in D.C. they were clearly trying to manufacture it. Another piece of this that I think people often. forget or it really wasn’t covered back in 2022 when all of this was going down but the mar-a-lago case was never meant to be a florida case it was always intended to be a washington dc case i lived in florida worked in florida met with president trump in florida signed it for the documents in florida witnessed the raid in florida met with doj and the fbi in florida everything i did was in florida you know when i got subpoenaed i had to go to washington dc to testify and i had to go to washington dc to get interrogated and interviewed by the department of justice and the fbi and so You know, why? Because it appears they were trying to create some type of Hillary Clinton email scandal-esque type espionage case against Donald Trump to prosecute him in Washington, D.C., and they failed. I mean, they just didn’t get anything out of the raid. And so they were forced to transition down to Florida and create some fake little obstruction of justice case that everybody knew was never going to hold any water. But they didn’t recover anything from the raid. There was no crime.
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What do you feel of all the stories and things that have been said, whether it’s things that are written, things that have been talked about on talk shows and so on? What do you feel gets done? What part of the story, I guess what I’m trying to ask, is told the most wrong all the time?
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Oh, they say President Trump didn’t cooperate or his lawyers were difficult or, you know, they obstructed. They were in the way, yet Joe Biden’s lawyers were cooperative. And that’s the difference. That could not be further from the truth. We had a meeting with the Department of Justice. We said, is there anything else you want to see? They were invited into Mar-a-Lago. President Trump himself said, what would you like to see? You have authority to see anything you want. I’ll show you whatever you want. And we showed them what they wanted to see when they were leaving. We said, is there anything else? They said, no. And we said, OK, great. You know, let us know if you need anything else. And then two months later, they raided the place. I mean, the whole thing was fake. The story they have told you on TV is fake.
SPEAKER 11 :
Unreal. By the way, none of that shocks me, and I kind of figured a lot of that even when I was watching it firsthand. I’m like, okay, wait a minute. None of this, you know, two plus two doesn’t equal four here. None of this is adding up at all. It just doesn’t make sense. And even some of the things that, you know, pardon the pun, but the trumped-up charges, it was just ridiculous. It’s like, okay, wait a minute, time out. You’re going after President Trump for things that aren’t even close to what other presidents have done in the past.
SPEAKER 07 :
Exactly. And they’re all made-up crimes. If you look at the indictments, I think there’s 39 counts. Yeah, sounds right. And every single one of them is obstruction of justice or some type of interfering with the FBI’s investigation, the Department of Justice’s investigation. Meaning, all of them are, you know… like throwaway charges. They’re usually things you tack on to like a real crime. They didn’t have an underlying crime here. And so basically, if the Department of Justice had never opened an investigation, none of those crimes would exist. First of all, they didn’t actually exist in the first place. They were made up. But regardless, if the investigation had never been opened, there would be nothing to charge.
SPEAKER 11 :
Interesting. Not shocked by any of this, by the way. And folks listening, these are things you’re going to find in the book. I guess what I should say, Christina, get the real account of what happened by reading your book.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yes, exactly. And there’s a lot in there. There’s so much in there that I’ve had probably about a dozen people that have gotten pre-copies of it, read it, going, this is so different from what we saw. So I’m excited for the public.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, and because, you know, as we all, well, maybe we all don’t know, because there’s a lot on the left that will still run around and talk about how treasonous Trump is, and he did this and he did that. Of course, all of those are just talking points that are shoved out from the left, none of that being true. But it’s the Hollywood-ish, I guess you could say, Christina, sides of things and what they do to make it look really good on TV for them. And that’s exactly what these guys did. Am I right?
SPEAKER 07 :
A hundred percent. I mean, they gaslit everybody. And I had another interview asked me earlier, they said, well, why aren’t we seeing, you know, indictments and grand juries? Why aren’t we seeing that all yet in this administration? Why hasn’t it happened? And exactly what you said in prior, when they were going after Trump, they were creating a whole bunch of smoke and they were creating a whole bunch of news stories that that were never real and they never had any substance to them, but they always just wanted to keep it at the news. So we saw all of this stuff that looks like progress and never was progress. It was never going anywhere, but they were constantly coming up with these stories. And so now that we don’t necessarily have those stories coming out right now, people think nothing’s happening.
SPEAKER 11 :
The expectation is to see that again is what they’re saying.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, exactly. And it’s like, well, no, I think they’re actually doing a real investigation.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, and thank you. I have said I’ve had callers even here that I have debated with Christina on exactly the topic that you’re talking about, where, you know, people want blood. They want and I get it. I understand why they do. And I’m and I’m fully with them. I want it as well. But I also want it in a way where it’s going to actually be a case that actually sticks, where something actually happens when it’s all said and done. And if you don’t get all of your I’s dotted and T’s crossed, that’s not going to happen.
SPEAKER 07 :
That’s exactly right. And I think that’s what’s going on here. And just looking at the difference between the way they executed the raid on John Bolton’s home versus Mar-a-Lago, Kash Patel came up front the morning that it was happening, posted on X, said no one is above the law. He took ownership of it. He acknowledged that they were raiding Bolton’s home. The FBI issued a formal statement to the effect of we have a warrant. We’re executing it now. And they proceeded with their investigation. With Mar-a-Lago, they didn’t do any of that. They never announced it. It wasn’t until Donald Trump announced it after the raid was over that anybody even knew it was happening. And then it took three days for the Biden administration to go, oh, my gosh, how did Mar-a-Lago get raided? We had no idea. We had no idea.
SPEAKER 11 :
Sure you didn’t.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, exactly. And then finally, three days later, Merrick Garland had a pathetic little press release that he took responsibility for everything. But they were hiding from it. They were hiding from what they did. And that’s not what we’re seeing with John Bolton. Kash Patel looks like he’s on very solid legal ground. He has probable cause. He’s got his warrant. And he’s not shying away from it, which leads me to believe they’ve got something.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, and the difference is with this administration, this is what I keep trying to tell all of my listeners, is the difference between, and you’re saying it for us, for me, you’re verifying everything that I’ve already been saying on air, which is this administration is going to make sure that whatever it has is going to stick or we’re not going to go down that path because there would be nothing more embarrassing than to go down that path and not have anything come out of it, which is exactly what’s happening to the left right now.
SPEAKER 07 :
A hundred percent. I mean, you either have you have something you have a smoking gun that you can bring to the bank or you have nothing. And trying to mess around in the middle is going to be.
SPEAKER 11 :
And I hate to go down this path because it’s a touchy subject even for a lot of my listeners. But all of the Epstein stuff, the reality is. That’s such a and you’re you’re a legal expert. You’re far more advanced in this than I am. But talking about things that are decades old and trying to prove different crimes happen then and try to get everybody that was involved in that actually prosecuted there. And I never believed there was any list in the first place because nobody would be stupid enough to put a list together if you’re in that position. So bottom line, Christina, I look at that one and I know why we’re passing on that one, because at the end of the day, that one is extremely hard. To bring anything to, you know, to have any fruit come out of that, I guess what I’m trying to say, extremely difficult to make that happen. As old as that is, that’s not the same as what’s going on here.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, I mean, they’re continuing with the investigation. I give the Trump administration credit for hearing the American people say, no, no, no, we want to know what’s going on with Epstein. And with the Epstein stuff, I think it is the two-tier system of justice that people are upset about. They say, wait, why did the billionaires and famous people get to get away with, you know, pedophilia? And Americans are getting thrown in prison for their political beliefs.
SPEAKER 11 :
I get that. I get that. But what I have to remind people of is when Epstein and all of that came to fruition, that was all the way back in 2008. I mean, the reality is that wasn’t yesterday. It was a long time ago. And you, as an attorney, would know this. Going back through all of the records and who’s handled them throughout all of these years, decades, by the way, you know, how do you prove who had what, who did what? Did somebody plan something? Did somebody not? I mean, going back through that, Christina, and just trying to figure all of those things out, to me, not worth the effort. I’m sorry. It’s just there’s bigger fish to fry.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, there’s a lot of fish to fry, that’s for sure. And I think, you know, I applaud Todd Lanch for doing the interview of Glenn Maxwell. Like, you know, that gave us some insight. But people need to be held accountable one way or another. And I think it appears that this administration is doing that right. You know, I think there they are. They’re going to be.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, what I think they’re doing, Christine, and this is what I’ve been telling my listeners, what I think they’re doing, which is different than what you normally would see. And I get it as as supporters. Everybody wants their own blood. I guess you could say they want to be you know, they want to be avenged for what’s happened in the past. I understand that. I’m. I fully get that. But what this administration is doing is going about it more surgically, I guess I could say. In other words, they’re going after the folks that, again, at the end of the day, there’s going to be a definite win there. These aren’t just things that we’re doing on a whim. We want definite wins. Otherwise, why go down that path?
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, 100%. I mean, you have to have wins on this. You can’t go down this path and not come up victorious.
SPEAKER 11 :
If you don’t, it’s going to hurt. And this is for all of you listening that are out there. If you don’t have wins, it’s going to kill us politically. You opened up with this, Christina, talking about how this is killing the left. The same thing will happen to us if we’re not careful.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, I mean, it’s a zero-sum game at this point. You either win everything or you lose everything. And when the stakes are that high, you have to be very careful.
SPEAKER 11 :
I fully agree. Where do folks get the book, Christina?
SPEAKER 07 :
It’s available on Amazon, Barnes & Noble, wherever books are sold. Please check it out. Defiant Forward by Donald Trump.
SPEAKER 11 :
It’s always a joy to have you. I appreciate it very much. Thank you so much.
SPEAKER 07 :
Thanks so much for having me.
SPEAKER 11 :
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SPEAKER 11 :
And we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Thanks for listening today. I appreciate it very much. And a text message came in and said, we all agree on the corruption of the left. Where, in all caps, are the arrests for J6, Mar-a-Lago, election interference, COVID hoax, and the list goes on and on. Okay, let me answer each one of those by themselves. On the ones that are listed, there won’t be any. That one’s an easy list. There’s not going to be any. And here’s why. Getting to the actual crux of finding enough evidence on J6, for example, on Mar-a-Lago, on election interference. Now, you might get something out of Mar-a-Lago, although the FBI was just doing what the FBI was directed to do. So you’ve got to go all the way back to the last presidency and you’re not going to arrest Joe Biden or any of his inner circle. So good luck with that. That ain’t going to happen. And what the administration is doing right now, which you just heard Christina talk about, is they are being surgical and they are going after the ones where they know they have things that will stick. You’re not going to get arrests on J6. You’re not going to get arrests, I don’t think, on election interference. Not going to happen. You’re not, for sure, going to get anything related to COVID. Not going to happen. If you guys out there are wanting… You know, some sort of arrests and things to be held accountable in those particular areas. It’s not. I’m sorry. Stop thinking that way. It’s not going to happen. Now, when it comes to Russiagate, which is what is happening with the raid earlier that she was talking about with John Bolton, some of those sorts of things, yes, I think you’re going to see some answers and you’re going to see some folks be held accountable. But these ones that are listed in this particular text message, I’m sorry to say you’re not going to see anything. If that’s what you’re hoping for, I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but you’re not going to have anything. It’s not going to happen. And the reason for that is the amount of time, effort, energy, and resources that it will take to even come close to proving that somebody had anything to do with that that you can then somehow prosecute, it’s not going to happen. Good luck. I’m sorry. It’s it’s it’s not going to happen. So and I think Christina was very was very wise in how she was saying what this administration is going to do in regards to, you know, going after some of those individuals that you can actually have something stick and be held accountable. Because, again, folks, going back to what Christina said, if you go after that list that was just mentioned in the text message, J6 election interference, whatever, pick pick pick which one. If you go down that path and you don’t have anybody that you can actually stick to the wall, quote unquote, and hold them accountable for those particular actions, you’re going to lose politically in a big way. Because what it’s going to look like to the other side and even the folks that are in the middle of the road is that you’re just being that political party that’s going after your enemies, which I get the left did. But we have to be better than that. We have to be smarter than that. We have to have a real outcome. They came after Donald Trump more than once, over and over and over and over again. And as it keeps going here, as we keep going down the path, none of those are going to stick at the end of the day. They’re going to look really bad. And right now, Trump’s approval rate is doing very well. I think he’s at 54%. Don’t quote me on that, but I think that’s what I noticed a day or two ago. He’s doing well. And by the way, if you can get the Fed to participate and get the economy back up and rolling, you’ll see his rate even go up further. That’s why the Fed’s not doing anything, by the way. That’s a whole other conversation. I saw all sorts of things this morning, read all sorts of different things from Wall Street Journal on, talking about how they’re mad that Donald Trump wants to fire the one gal that’s on there. I think Amy Cook is her name. Don’t quote me. I don’t have my notes in front of me on that one. I’ve got that for later in the show. But he wants to fire her off the Federal Reserve Board because she submitted loan applications saying that she basically had two homes. They were both for primary residency. That’s mortgage fraud. He wants to remove her from the board for doing so. I don’t blame him. He should. She sits on a board that’s in charge of those things, and yet she’s abusing it. She should go. End of story. Everybody’s talking out there how that’s not the way it should work, and Trump doesn’t have any authority to do so, and that means that he’s now going to have more power over the Fed, and it shouldn’t be that way. That is a bunch of BS, by the way. Anytime you read anything along those lines, you should just be laughing. I do. Biggest bunch of BS I’ve ever heard. All of these folks that are supposedly experts wanting the Fed to be independent, it’s not independent, nor has it ever been. It has had so much influence politically speaking, it’s ridiculous. Anybody that would be out there saying it’s independent, you hear me and Jordan Goodman argue about that all the time, it’s about as independent as I am from Crawford Broadcasting. In other words, it’s not. They are tied in, believe me. Jerome Powell is doing everything he possibly can to help the left. You can see that by his actions. So, yeah, he’s tied in politically as it gets. He is not independent in any way, shape, or form. So going back to, though, this text message. By the way, thank you. I do appreciate the text messages. I think in this one they may have gotten in a little bit late on the conversation. It doesn’t matter. I mean, at the end of the day, I know what people want. And I’ve talked about this in the past. You guys want heads to roll. I get it. I do, too. But we have to be surgical in the heads that are going to roll and make sure that it sticks. Otherwise, we lose. And some of you are saying, well, the left doesn’t lose. They didn’t lose. Well, yeah, actually, they are right now. All of these things that they came after Trump for, that they continue to overturn and realize that there’s nothing there, there never was anything there, that’s looking bad for Democrats right now. It is not good for them. So in the end, is that going to work out for them? No, they lost the last presidency because of it. They lost the last election because of those things. Do you guys all not understand that? We can’t do the same thing or we will also. We have to be better than them when it comes to this whole prosecution of and holding people accountable. I can’t stress that enough. And yet I see so many talking heads that are out there, even on our side of the aisle, that don’t understand what I just said. Well, because their way of doing it gets more clicks and views and likes than the way I do it. So anyways, I’ll be back. Another full hour coming your way. This is Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
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