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Join host John Rush as he delves deep into America’s tumultuous history, spotlighting the riveting 115-day presidential race involving Rutherford B. Hayes. In conversation with Richard Battle, listener favorite, they draw fascinating parallels between historical and modern political challenges, highlighting how the leadership of yesteryears can guide today’s divided society. Special attention is given to the complexities of electoral processes and the significance of principled leadership in fostering national healing post-Civil War.
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All right, we’re back. Hour number two, Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560, and Richard Battle joining us. Richard, how are you today? How’s your day going?
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Good afternoon, John. We’re doing great. Thanks for having us back with you.
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Always a joy. The 115-day presidential election that hastened national healing. Talk about it.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, Saturday is Rutherford B Hayes birthday. And so it’s kind of ironic that that came up and I decided to talk about it right at the time of the government shutdown. Uh, but that particular election was so unique. especially in the face of the division of the Civil War and the healing after it, and comparing the leadership in those days versus the leadership today, that I thought it’d be good to review it.
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Okay, let’s get into it. So first of all, Rutherford Hayes, what number president was he?
SPEAKER 05 :
You’re asking me the one question I can’t remember.
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Because I didn’t have it off the top of my head. I’ll look it up. I’ll look it up while you’re talking.
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Not a problem. I don’t have the number, but what’s amazing was that election and another byproduct of that was George Custer, part of the reason he was doing what he did before he got wiped out. By the way, 19th. He was the 19th president. 19th. Custer was trying to be the Democrat candidate for president in 1876, which Samuel Tilden, the governor of New York, was the Democrat candidate, and Rutherford B. Hayes was the multi-term governor of Ohio, was the Republican candidate.
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Okay. Interesting.
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So when the election finalized… Tilden was ahead by 19 electoral votes, but there was contention in five states. Imagine this. One of them was Florida, South Carolina, Louisiana, Vermont, and Oregon. And so there were issues about tabulating ballots as well as unqualified electors that were causing problems. So some things never change. Some things never change. There were 20 electoral votes in those five states. Tilden was ahead by 19 electoral votes on election night.
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Close race.
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Well, it was a very close race. And so what was interesting, it took 115 days to resolve it. We think that the 37 days in 2000 were bad. And they barely got it resolved before Inauguration Day on March 4th. And if they wouldn’t have gotten that done by March 4th, that would have violated the Constitution itself.
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Hmm. Good point. Wow. You know what? These are things I don’t think most people know. I had read this at one time but forgot all about it.
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Well, and here’s another point that your listeners will like. Colorado was admitted to the union that year, and they had three electoral votes that went to haste. But the admission process was not the normal admission process. If they had gone through the normal admission process, Colorado would not have made it in 1876, and those three electoral votes wouldn’t have occurred.
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Okay. Okay. Good. I didn’t know that either. Good to know.
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So there were so many unique things. The Congress, lacking interest in having an accountable opinion about what should happen, instead of the Congress taking care of the election like 1800 and 1824… They appointed a federal elections commission, which is not constitutional. And they had representatives and senators and then Supreme Court justices to try to adjudicate the dispute, which was interesting. And their vote was one vote difference after a Supreme Court justice was kind of flaky on the deal. And so one vote difference on that. as they went.
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How did the country react and or respond to all of that at the time, or do you know?
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Well, what’s interesting is, of course, the communications in those days were not as good, so people couldn’t keep up. You had telegraph, so the people that were really involved could keep up, but then you had to rely on transcriptions in the newspaper to keep them going. But if you’ll remember, when you and I were kids, politics were not part of our daily life.
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No, they weren’t.
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And even more so in the 1800s. So I think most of them probably figured, well, there’s very little difference between one and the other. So regardless of who wins, America wins.
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How good of a president was he?
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Well, one of the things he did, and I think he was very principled, because he promised to only serve one term. And what happened, the Democrats controlled the House of Representatives, but they lost the election. and and the reason why was they cut a deal uh reconstruction had been going on for 11 years and the north had punished the south i mean after the war there was so much bitterness in the south if lincoln would have lived i think reconstruction would have been easier and quicker and the healing would have been quicker so hayes and his people Every day to the last 115 day, it looked like Tilden was going to win the election. But Hayes cut a deal that if he were elected, he’d only serve one term, and he would withdraw federal troops from the South, ending Reconstruction. And so those southern states said they’d vote for Hayes if he did that, and that’s what swung the election.
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That’s what made him win. Interesting. And won by one electoral vote. Amazing. I did not know that. That’s amazing. Again, these are stories that, again, I think I knew this at one point in time or I’d read this at one point in time, but, man, we forget, and I forgot how close that was.
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Well, we forget about it, and they used the law to adjudicate the election. There are provisions in the Constitution and in law to adjudicate election disputes, and they did it. There weren’t riots in the street or anything. They went through a legal process. There were attempts five years ago to do some of that. And, of course, there’s contention on both sides there. But there were attempts to go through a legal process. And some people argue both directions, whether it went through properly or not.
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So, as I just said a few minutes ago, some things never change. And I think my point in that, Richard, is that, you know, I always hear from, you know, different people that, man, you know, we’re back to the point where, you know, we’re up against, you know, it’s going to be Civil War again. And, you know, it’s just getting so bad. And I don’t know how we can continue on and this, that and the other. And I’m always quick to remind people that, you know, we’ve been through rougher times as a nation, but we have short memories in regard to that.
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Absolutely. And part of the reason I like talking about this is those people put country ahead of self and party. And they had the Democrats and the Republicans had to do that to come together to solve this particular issue, which was bigger than self or party. And that’s what we need now going forward to help us heal. They had argued for 30 years before the Civil War. There was bitterness long beyond this. I mean, the city of Vicksburg didn’t celebrate Independence Day until 1944 after the Civil War. So there was still bitterness, but this was a major step forward to healing. And if they could heal that, we can heal this if we have statesmen and women step up.
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Yeah. And, you know, as you and I talk on a pretty routine basis, that’s where the leadership end of things comes together and the simple fact that we don’t have enough of.
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Yes, and the difference between a politician and a leader, a politician thinks about the next election, and a statesman leader, if you will, thinks about the next generation.
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Yep, that’s exactly right. All right, so we’ve got books, we’ve got other things on the website. Talk about that for a minute.
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Well, if I may, I’m going to give one quote that I think is important. Absolutely, absolutely.
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Go ahead.
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Before self-promotion, nothing brings out the lower traits of human nature like office-seeking. Men of good character and impulses are betrayed by it into all sorts of meanness.
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Yep. Yep.
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Think how applicable that is.
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Yep. No, you are 100% correct. I can’t argue that at all. That was his. That’s Rutherford B. Hayes’ quote.
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That is Rutherford B. Hayes’ quote, and these are in the Americans who made America 19th century. Growth Division and Reunification Volume. RichardBattle.com is the website. All 12 volumes are there signed. If you’d like them inscribed, email me, Richard, at RichardBattle.com. After you order, we’re happy to do that for gifts, which holiday season is coming up. On Amazon under Richard B. Battle, all 12 books, including 11 of them in Kindle and 8 in audio version.
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Richard, always a joy. Glad to have you back this week. We appreciate all you do.
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My pleasure. Take care. God bless America.
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And as always, you can find him at klzradio.com slash money. Al, thanks so much for joining us today.
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Well, thank you, TJ. Thanks for the conversation.
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You bet.
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Hi, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Yesterday, Andy and I really broke down the GOP meeting that was the SEC meeting that happened this last Saturday and really talked a lot about, you know, where are we at, where are we at as a party, and so on. And along those lines, there was an Apple News story that I read this morning that just caught my eye and thought, well, I’ll go ahead and read this. And the title of this particular article is, A Far-Right Faction Took Power in Odessa, this is in Texas, Odessa, Then It Had to Govern. And I read the entire article, which, very interesting. Only problem is… As I’m reading that entire article, I’m thinking, this is exactly what’s happening in Colorado, only it’s in a statewide basis here in Colorado, not just in a particular city, particular area. I would encourage you, whether you have… And let me look here, whether you have Apple News or not. This is coming out of a publication called Texas Monthly. Texas Monthly. So most of you could probably look this up, even if you don’t have an Apple account. But I think Apple News, I think… And I don’t know this because I’m an Apple user. Charlie, can you read an Apple News story if I send it to you? Or have you ever tried doing that? He’s not sure. We’ll have to figure that out, whether you guys can actually read an Apple News link or not. And if some of you know that answer, let me know. But very interesting article. And really what it boils down to is a – faction, a group of really hard right individuals, ended up winning power in the city of Odessa, took over, and literally changed lots of things in regards to how the city functioned. And let me give you some examples. And while in principle, this is what I talk about with our party here in Colorado right now, who’s in charge? In principle, their right is But in the way they handled things, they were wrong. So, for example, Texas already has a very strict abortion law statewide. And yet, even with that, and even given the fact that Odessa has no abortion clinics in its city limits, they thought that they needed to pass a law banning abortions in the city and spent a lot of time and money doing that. And yet they had issues going on with their water supply, whereby they had certain days where you couldn’t drink the water because it wasn’t fit to drink and so on and so forth. In other words, they were working on things that they thought were important while the city struggled. Again, principle, yes, correct, but practically speaking, completely wrong. Again, why would you bother with an abortion ban in the city of Odessa when there’s not even an abortion clinic there? Why would you spend any time on that? Well, because in these guys’ eyes, and they were guys, in their eyes, that’s what they stood for and that’s what they were going to do, period. They were God-fearing, Bible-believing Christians, and this is what we’re going to do, even though people might not be able to drink water in town. And you see the error of their ways in what I just said? Yes, in principle, they’re correct. And I don’t believe in abortion either. You guys hear me talk about that even on the National Crawford Roundtable in regards to the sponsors that we have there, Preborn. And great organization, by the way. But do I agree with how these guys handled the abortion situation in Odessa, Texas? No, they’re knuckleheads. They’re idiots. Sorry, I’ll just say it as is. They’re complete idiots. They’re so principled that they lost sight of taking care of people. I mean, people need drinking water. That’s far more important than passing an abortion ban in a town where there’s not even a clinic anyways. I mean, how stupid can you be? Well, very stupid. And this whole article goes through talking about how they they fired the current city manager, which, by the way, I hate city managers anyways. But they fired the city manager they had. They put out a search for a new city manager. Well, as it turns out, they end up hiring a city manager that is really it was very incestual. This particular person was very key inside of the state GOP party, had no experience ever being a city manager there. They basically rigged it to where even though they did a study and a search, they paid a firm to actually do a search for a city manager. They end up hiring the insider, if you would, for a tune of about $275,000 a year. Remember, Odessa, Texas, that’s in the heart of the Permian Basin, very, very wealthy area. Because of that, they have all sorts of money, all sorts of funds. But these knuckleheads chose to spend it in ways that were on them and not the town. Again, as I was reading through this entire article, all I’m thinking about are the things that Andy and I spoke about yesterday in regards to the Davidians, as Andy calls them, and he’s right in calling them that, as in the Davidians that are running the state party today here in Colorado. Now, fortunately for Odessa, Texas… They were actually able to turn the tide. People finally woke up. The voters in the area finally woke up and realized that, wait a minute, this isn’t going the right direction. We should probably vote in some folks that are more concerned about how the town actually runs versus their inside politics and the fact that these guys are all getting rich off of being on city council, which is exactly what was happening. And let’s turn the tide. And they did. They ended up electing, quote unquote, moderate Republicans that came in and now are getting the town back on track and trying to fix some of the infrastructure issues they’re having and so on and so forth. It got so bad that the city couldn’t even borrow money any longer because their bond ratings were so poor because of the way the town was being run. It affected that end of things. This is what happens when you let radical activists run a town. That’s the ultimate story here is exactly what’s happening in Colorado happened in Odessa, Texas. And eventually it’ll it’ll fix itself here in Colorado. It’ll right itself. These knuckleheads will no longer be in power and things will change. And I know, by the way, a lot of you knuckleheads listen to my program. You won’t be there forever. You won’t be in power forever. You’re in power for right now, but that won’t last. Eventually, people will wake up, and they will realize that they’ve been had, that they’re getting scammed by the likes of you, and we’ll go back to somewhat of some normalcy, hopefully. The question is, how long will that take? I don’t have that answer. I hope it’s sooner than later, and I hope some of these people that are, I call them this, the political grifters, that grift in and out of Colorado, they get on the coattails of somebody else, they realize there’s money to be made, and there’s ways to make that happen, and I can run for this, and I can run for that, and I can be this, and I can be that, and eventually that runs out as well. And I hope that’s sooner than later. Keep in mind, and I’ll be careful how I say this, but I think this is pretty well known, keep in mind we’ve got two people that are really in charge of the party in Rhino Watch right now who can’t even do my job, that got kicked off air in doing my job because of things they did and basically their arrogance in how they feel things are and can no longer even sit in my chair because of that. And I’m not again, I’m not going to get into details, but that’s essentially what happens when you get to that point where you feel like you’re above everyone else and you start acting and saying things along those lines. You’re no longer able to do your job. And yet and yet they’re still collecting money and raising money off of the very things I’m talking about in regards to the GOP here in Colorado. How sick and twisted is that, by the way? There’s a lot of folks right now in charge of the GOP here in Colorado that are in it for one reason, one reason only, money. They’ll tell you it’s, oh, we’re principled. Oh, we’re doing it because we want to see Colorado go back red, which, by the way, it hasn’t been red forever. So that’s the dumbest thing anybody would ever say in Colorado anyways. And that’s coming from a native standpoint, by the way. But yeah, these guys and gals that are basically running the party here in Colorado, the 20 or 25 people that Andy and I talked about yesterday, these are people that are in it for one reason, one reason only. Money and greed. Power and greed. Ego. I guess you could call it several things, but money, power, ego, all of them going together, by the way. Each one of those feeding off of the other. And all they do is criticize anybody else that would come against them because they’re not principled. They’re a rhino. They’re a weak Republican. They’re this. They’re that. That’s exactly what they’ll come back and tell you. They’re not worthy to even run in an election because they don’t think like we do. By the way, do you see the danger in what I just said? They don’t think like us, so they’re not worthy to run. That’s a dangerous place to get to, by the way. So those of you that are in that camp, shame on you, by the way. And by the way, any of you that think along those lines, have you really looked in the mirror and thought about what’s going on and that you’re a part of something you shouldn’t be? And I mean this sincerely. Some of you I’ve known for years and years now, and you’ve gotten wrapped up with the wrong people. And you’re doing it for all the wrong reasons as well. Your ego some way, somehow is being fed, and I don’t know why, because it’s being fed by people that, frankly, don’t have your best interest at heart. They’re users through and through. So, again, go read this article. I encourage every one of you that are listening, even if you’re on that side of the aisle, go read this article. Look and see what these people did to Odessa, Texas. They’re now reeling back from that. They’re trying to get this thing back on track and fixed. after literally these guys thoroughly screwed up Odessa, Texas. And you would think, how could that happen in a place like Odessa? It did. No different than it’s happening here in Colorado. Now, the difference is these guys actually got elected. They were in power and they made a bunch of changes to Odessa, Texas. Here in Colorado, they’re not doing things on a statewide level as far as politics are concerned because their activist ways won’t allow their candidates to be elected. Now, they’ll tell you that, oh, we have the best candidates ever, and it’s this primary system that doesn’t allow things to happen correctly, and that’s why we can’t win. As I said yesterday, they’re delusional. These are literally people that are – it’s a mental illness. I don’t know how else to say it. These are mentally ill people, much like I talk about people on the left being mentally ill. The same thing is happening inside of our own party. These are mentally ill people that are so addicted to the ego and power and money that they’re losing sight of what really happens with regular Coloradans. And it’s really sick if you think about it. They are so drunk on power, and they are so happy now that they finally have a piece of the power pie, and they’re not going to give it up. Come hell or high water, we’re not giving it up. But eventually they do, and they’ll have to, just like in Odessa, Texas. So once again, go read this. It’s so eerily similar. to what’s going on in Colorado, that as I read this, that’s all I could think of is, this is us. This is the Colorado GOP, those that are in charge. And literally, it’s so incestuous, it’s ridiculous. And as I was reading through some of the comments, by the way, regarding the decisions that were made on Saturday from the SEC and so on, and some of the people that are criticizing those decisions, by the way, I’ll name names, the Eric Grossmans of the world, which, by the way, nobody even knew who Eric Grossman was until Dave came along, Dave Williams came along. And they’re just pals. And all Dave did was feed Eric money. for a business that I’ve never heard of and most of you haven’t either, and there’s not even any Internet presence on that company, and yet he was the party planner that we fed hundreds of thousands of dollars to. And yet he’s the first guy to come out and say what happened last Saturday isn’t correct. I mean, these people, again, they are delusional. They’re drunk on power, and eventually, and I’m going to keep talking about this because we need to eliminate these people. They need to go away. Eliminate, not as in eliminate, but eliminate them from the power they have is what I mean. Please don’t misunderstand what I just said. Eliminate their positions. Let me say it that way. In some cases, by the way, these are people that have only been in Colorado for the last five, six, seven years. They haven’t even been here that long. In some cases, less than that. And yet they jump on, they jump in, and they’re going to capture some of that cash, some of that fame, And they’re not giving it up. Unfortunately, in Colorado, we’ve allowed that. And I think we do because we just don’t vet things like we should at times. And again, it’s because of our independent thought and how we as conservatives look at things and so on. And I’m not saying that’s a bad thing, but we are not the well-oiled machine that the left is. We allow things to happen the left never will. And we can learn some things, by the way, from what the left does and be much better off for it. And we should, strategically speaking. Cup Creek Union Air Conditioning coming up next. Don’t forget about their furnace tune-up special. Find them today. Just go to klzradio.com.
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All right, we are back. Sonny Kutcher joining us now. Young Americans Against Socialism. Sonny, welcome.
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Thanks for having me. How are you doing this week?
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I’m doing great. Always a joy to have you. First off, give us an update of what’s going on on your end of the woods, your neck of the woods with Young Americans Against Socialism.
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Well, you know, we are just still trying to get our resources out to everyone that needs them. I think that’s the most important thing that we can do is just have resources available for families. When they come looking, you know, they are able to find it. And especially after Charlie Kirk’s assassination, you can tell from the statistics and whatnot that our searches have gone way up. People are definitely seeking out this material, seeking out information, and especially for their kids because they understand how important the work that Charlie was doing is to reach college kids and to seed the indoctrination. It’s really quite shocking. People are seeing now, okay, we need to help our children from a young age. age and so uh that that’s where you can find us at yas.org which is the website and we’re happy to uh you know share your story if you’re you or somebody you know has experienced you know uh tyranny from another country or they’re a survivor or they know somebody we’d love to hear from you and to be able to share those stories
SPEAKER 19 :
You know what? And I want to dovetail into that because I did a great interview in the first hour. We do health and wellness for that first hour on Wednesdays, and we had a great guest on today. We were talking about mental illness and how it’s on the rise and how things are being prescribed and where is it coming from. And really, we dovetailed back into, and this particular psychologist fully agreed with me, This is part of the Marxist movement. It’s exactly what they want. They want to see this mental health crisis. It’s been by design. This particular psychologist, Sonny, fully agreed with me. And what I want to dovetail into you from him is you have a lot of materials whereby if there’s somebody struggling even on the mental illness end of things, I’m not saying it’s going to be a fix-all, but if people would read your material and and learn what’s really trying to be done, or not trying, what’s being done in our public school education especially, and if they’d really sit down and look at your material and understand where they’re at, I am convinced that they could even probably head off some of this mental illness problems we have, especially with young people.
SPEAKER 16 :
I definitely agree with you. I think the material when it comes to our rights, talking about the Constitution, talking about the story of America and the Declaration of Independence and how Americans, the early colonists, fought for their independence. These stories and these values, absolutely, I would agree with you, do build the foundation. They are the building blocks and the core pillars for Americans and humans in general to understand that our rights do come from God, that there is natural law, that natural law exists, and that the reason the Constitution is so unique and so special is because it actually codifies that. It actually protects those rights into law to say, hey, no matter what, Our government is here to protect us. And so we want to make sure that no matter what, our rights, our freedom of speech, our freedom of the press, all of these different things are protected because that’s the only way that you can keep a functioning society from derailing.
SPEAKER 19 :
Great point. And I think the other thing that he and I talked about is just, you know, how, and I know you guys talk about this in the material as well, this idea that, you know, hey, you don’t need God. There is no higher power. There’s nobody there that you can look to for comfort and care and so on. The reality is we’re government. We’re going to take that place. Look to us instead. Oh, by the way, if you come to us with any kind of mental illness, we’re just going to prescribe a pill to you anyways, which, by the way, is by design, Sonny. Again, there’s so much material that you guys have that would help people really understand what’s the real motive here. And I think if people were to really understand what the motive is, I think in a lot of ways it might change their whole perspective on things.
SPEAKER 16 :
Definitely, because we can’t control the people that go into office, right? We all have free will, and so that is why government is so susceptible to corruption and to tyranny, because people abuse their power. So the governmental system in Europe and France, let’s say, or Germany or whatnot, they either have a parliamentary system or they have an XYZ system in whichever country you want to discuss, That may be fine and great. That may be quite all right. However, you cannot control people who go in and want to abuse their power and then, you know, end up creating like in England where they’re actually people who are being arrested for, quote-unquote, hate speech because they don’t have the First Amendment. They don’t really have that in writing. It doesn’t exist the way that it does in this country. So I absolutely agree with you. I think that this goes right into just the same – concept as it is when we do talk about health recommendations from the government, governmental agencies saying, oh, we are going to be the arbiter of science and of what’s medically conducive for your child or what’s medically recommended for your child. I think that’s why so many families especially are waking up as far as the pharmaceutical industrial complex, what President Trump has been talking about with autism. People want to get to the root of the truth. They want to understand the truth. And so if they could see, perhaps, and from that perspective, if you are a parent that is, you know, really getting into the pharmaceutical industrial complex and how they’re actually poisoning our children, how they’re wanting to, you know, schedule all these vaccines back to back to back that are creating issues with our children, undoubtedly, because RFK, he always talks about you don’t see 75 year old men who are autistic or not just men, but 75 year old people who are autistic. It doesn’t really, it doesn’t exist. Right. So there’s something happening. That’s the trickle down. And that’s why, uh, knowing how that happens in every single way from the government to the people, you would talk about healthcare when you talk about, uh, freedom, when you talk about these laws, when you talk, you know what I mean? So that’s why it’s so important to understand how socialism works because that is economically you know, quote, unquote, their idea of economic prosperity trickling down from the government to the people, and it just does not work. Just like it doesn’t really work when the government runs too much for us.
SPEAKER 19 :
No, you’re exactly right. And again, it was one of those things where I was thinking, you know, as I was talking to him, and I’m thinking, okay, we’ve got Sonny coming up, and the reality is so much of this literally ties back and forth to each other that your education and what we need to get out into the hands of And I say it all the time, Sonny, and I know we’re trying to get this out into young people especially because that’s at the heart of what we’re talking about, although there are people even my age that probably could benefit from reading your material that, frankly, even though they believe like we do, maybe have never really read through the factual data of why they believe what they believe.
SPEAKER 16 :
Definitely. And I also think that what an important and special opportunity it is for parents to understand Not only understand that, you know, okay, hey, yeah, my kid needs to understand, you know, what the Bill of Rights is and what their freedoms are and how the Constitution protects these freedoms. Great. I think there’s a special opportunity here for parents to actually take responsibility as being their child’s first and most important educator. Nowadays, you know, more and more people are homeschooling. We know that that’s not possible for everybody, you know, and we know that’s not feasible for everybody, or maybe that’s just not everyone’s priority or preference, rather. But how special is it to really take that time and to dedicate to understanding your rights, your values, so that your child can grow up knowing that they cannot be taken advantage of, knowing when it comes to legalities, when it comes to contracts, when it comes to employment, when it comes to financial literacy, when it comes to critical thinking, when it comes to observing the news, the media, their peers, college. everything in their life eventually will build upon these values and build their confidence and their critical thinking is so important in order to protect these rights for themselves, because guess what? Yes, these rights are given by God, and they are protected by the Constitution, but that does not stop people from actually trying to infringe upon those rights and actually impeach upon your rights.
SPEAKER 19 :
That’s right. No, very well said, by the way. I appreciate all of that. I know you’re short on time today. How do folks find you?
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, yass.org is the website, so you can certainly check us out there. We’d love to hear from you. There’s a little banner at the bottom where you can send us a message if there’s something that you’d like to share or you have questions about. We’re just so grateful for the support, and this is the time. This truly is the time to get involved, just to share the resources, watch the interviews on our website, on our YouTube channel, so you can go, honestly, search Young Americans Against Socialism or YASS, the acronym, America, YASS America, on Twitter, on Instagram. YouTube and you’ll find it because those interviews are so helpful and impactful to really help people visualize and understand and feel realistically what it means and what it was like what it still is like to live in these communist and socialist countries and that really is the heart of our organization and then the resources kind of funnel through from there of what we learn and how we can distill this information to share with your children in a curriculum or a learning guide format and so feel free to go to the website download those resources and let us know what you think
SPEAKER 19 :
Awesome. Sunny, as always, I appreciate it. Thanks for taking time out of your day. I know you’re busy, and I appreciate it greatly.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, thank you so much. I appreciate you, and what a blessing it is to have so many people who want to learn, want to share this information, and so we’re really grateful for this opportunity always.
SPEAKER 19 :
You have a great day. Thanks, Sunny. And we’ll let her go. Have a great evening. Mile High Coin coming up next. Again, those of you that have been collecting things, and it just stuff builds up over time. You know what I mean by that. You get a little item here, a little item there, and pretty soon you’ve got a jewelry box full of stuff, and it’s like, you know, I’m not even using the majority of what’s in here. Okay, turn that into cash, or at least find out what’s its worth, what’s its value. Mile High Coin will do that for you for free, 720-370-3400.
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All right, Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Story that I had read, and Charlie sent me this as well. Two Denver area companies and three of the business’s top executives are facing federal charges for allegedly defrauding the government on sales of forklifts and trying to dodge tariffs on equipment imported to the U.S. So what these guys were doing, in a nutshell, was they had imported Chinese forklifts into the U.S., changed the bill of lading, had basically a scam going on with the Chinese company that was sending these over, and they were falsifying documents, making it look like they weren’t coming from China, but in essence they were, and they’ve been caught. Now, they started doing this, I believe, I’ve got to look at the article here, but I believe… That was all the way back to 20, I want to say 2018 or 2019. In other words, this didn’t just happen. This has been going on for a while. This isn’t just because of the tariffs and things that were just enacted of late, by the way. This is going on way before that. And again, these guys, frankly, these guys should go to jail, I believe. And here’s why. Let me explain. These guys more than likely were involved in a bidding process for forklifts to the government. And I don’t know exactly what department of government these were going to, but it doesn’t matter. Going to the government. And where I think this is, and why they should go to jail, by the way, is, A, not only did they defraud the government because they claimed these were U.S.-made, and by the way, there was a law enacted, and Trump did this, I believe, back in 2020, or earlier, 2016, let me say it that way, his first term, 16 to 20, whereby he encouraged and mandated that the government buy as much U.S.-made products as possible. These guys probably figured out, okay, wait a minute, we can get an edge. We can probably sell an item to the government that’s a little less money than what somebody that’s actually got a U.S.-made product has. We’ll still be okay. We’ll figure out a way to make it look like these are actually U.S.-made forklifts, and we’re good to go. We’re golden. So they thought. And here’s where it frustrates business people like myself that are doing this the correct way. They basically stole money from other U.S.-made forklifts, and the companies that were selling those are trying to sell those to the government. They beat those guys out in the bidding process with an inferior product that costs a lot less. But they literally took money out of genuine U.S.-made products that could have actually gone to the government. And yeah, these guys should go to jail. There’s a bunch of garbage. I don’t know how these guys sleep at night. Of course, they don’t care. I don’t know who these individuals are. I’ve never met them. Don’t know what they even look like. Don’t know what their ethnicity is or anything else. Brian Perkins, Jeffrey Blasdell. and a former executive, J.R. Antzak. I can’t, I don’t, I’m saying that probably wrong. A-N-T-Z-Z-A-K. Antzak. They conspired to import forklifts from China and then conceal the forklifts’ foreign origin. Once disguised, the group would sell the forklifts to federal agencies, including the Department of Defense, Federal Emergency Management, so FEMA, and they represented the trucks as being made in America. They intentionally violated the Buy America Act to defraud the U.S. government. It’s not just a legal issue. It’s a demonstration of complete disregard for U.S. law and the safety and security of our U.S. military. Because, again, this went to the Department of Defense as well. Now, side note. I guarantee you that if I were to go and look at one of these forklifts and give it a once-over, I could have probably told you within five or ten minutes that this is not an American-made forklift. Am I a forklift expert? No. Have I owned forklifts? Yes. Do I currently? Yes. Can I pretty much identify a foreign-made one versus an American-made one? Yes. So I’m trying to figure out why did it take so long for government to figure out that these guys defrauded them in a million dollars in tariffs, duties, and fees. And on top of that, sold products to government that weren’t even made in America. In other words, I’m trying to figure out, it wouldn’t have taken very long. Even, by the way, just doing an oil change and some other things along those lines on one of these, you could have figured out pretty quickly that these weren’t made in America. So why did it take this long to finally bring these guys to justice? Five years later, basically. Six years later. That’s the biggest question I have is why did it take so long? Again, I get it. The wheels of government go really, really slowly. But keep in mind, these guys have been basically living a life of luxury, I’m guessing, selling all these forklifts to the government, probably making pretty good money on doing so. All on our dime. And not having a single worry about it, not even thinking twice about it. So, again, my take is not only did they commit a crime in doing what they did by selling to the government and avoiding all the tariffs, but they took money out of real good, solid, legitimate American companies that could have provided the government with forklifts. They stole from them at the end of the day. So, yeah, lock these guys up and throw away the key for all I’m concerned. Roof Savers of Colorado. Great company, by the way. Wants to help you save money on your roof by extending the life of, in a lot of cases, actually helping you with your insurance policy as well. Talk to Dave today. Find out how that works. 303-710-6916.
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Now back to Rush to Reason on KLZ 560.
SPEAKER 19 :
All right, that’s it for this hour. Another full hour coming your way. Scott Garlis will join us at 530. I’ll also talk a little bit about the government shutdown. And then Colorado just had a big meeting, a big conference, I guess you could say, on artificial intelligence and how that should work inside of the state of Colorado. I’ll talk about that as well. Don’t go anywhere. Hour three is next. Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
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