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In this episode of Drive Radio, we delve into the fascinating world of automotive technology and how it’s evolving the way we interact with our vehicles. From understanding the shift in gear control systems from traditional levers to modern-day buttons, this engaging conversation unravels the complexities and conveniences brought about by these innovations. Our hosts and callers share personal anecdotes and insights, offering a blend of humor and practical advice on navigating these changes seamlessly. Whether you’re an avid car enthusiast or just looking to learn more about your vehicle, this episode promises to shed light on pressing questions
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SPEAKER 08 :
All right, we are back. Drive Radio, KLZ 560. Don’t forget, text line 307-282-22. You can text us a message, and I’ll get that answered either on air or directly as much as I can, either or. So we appreciate that very much. And Mike in Highlands Ranch, you are next. Go ahead, Mike.
SPEAKER 11 :
Hi, I’ve got a couple questions. I have a 22 Honda Pilot. The headlights… in the evenings are so bright that I can’t get a block without somebody flashing their brights back at me. The question is, is there a place I can go to get some headlights that aren’t so darn bright, or can I have them reset in some way so they aren’t so darn bright?
SPEAKER 08 :
You can maybe have them aligned lower, although I highly doubt it’s going to make a big difference because the LEDs that are actually in that are the high, those are probably high intensity discharge most likely. Those are probably HIDs actually is the reason why they’re so bright. I’d have to look up and see exactly on the pilot, Mike, whether they’re LEDs or HIDs. Either way, they’re very bright. I know exactly what you’re talking about. I and I don’t know if this is legal. We’ll get into the legal sides of things here in a minute as well. Here’s a question for Roy and Dietze more than anything. Could you in his case where you’re trying to dim the lights ever so slightly, could you put colored PPF on them and lower the intensity of the lights by doing like a smoked PPF on them?
SPEAKER 07 :
There is film for headlights. Okay. But it’s not legal.
SPEAKER 08 :
I know. That’s where I’m getting in.
SPEAKER 07 :
It’s not very legal. That’s right.
SPEAKER 08 :
And, Mike, that’s where I was going with this, because technically covering the headlights with something that’s not clear is technically illegal, although I would think that most officers, if you told them what you did to… accomplish what you’re trying to do, I would highly doubt you’d ever have any problems. You’re doing something that’s the opposite of what most want to do. You’re trying to tone things down a little bit. I don’t see that being a problem. Okay.
SPEAKER 11 :
Are you ready for another one? Yes. This one is sort of a riddle wrapped in a mystery, I think. I had a previous, I think it was a 2021 pilot, And as you know, the gear mechanism is no longer controlled by a shift that you push forward and backward, a stick in other words. It emerges from the console, its buttons instead. And being an old, this is a new trick, and I’m an old dog, and what I found was that when I would go into, let’s say I pull into a parking lot and just decide to put the car in. I just slow down. I put on the brakes. I skip putting the car in park and instead just punch the stop button. Engine goes off. And what I found on that earlier version of the car was that frequently when I tried to Let’s say I went to a restaurant, parked the car that way without putting the car first in park and then turning it off, but just in gear, slowed down to a stop, and then pushed the stop button. I came back out, let’s say a half hour later, could not start the car. The brake pedal, when I depressed, was not working. providing the attention I was used to. Instead, it was just absolutely rock-solid hard. I couldn’t depress it at all, and I couldn’t start the car. So then I did call a tow agency of some kind, which was a busy weekend night, and it took them a couple hours. And by the time the tow guy got here, I took one last try to start it, I was able then to start it, and my conclusion, knowing nothing about cars, couldn’t fill a shot glass of what I know about cars, was that it took the brains of the car a little while to settle and recoup and rethink things and prepare itself again for me to start the car in a traditional way. Having stopped it in a way I don’t think they anticipated, people doing. In other words, skipping the park function, just going straight to stop. Is that owner-operator error? Is that…
SPEAKER 06 :
My wife has the same car, and I do that quite often. I don’t put it in park. I just hit the off button. And what happens is, so I call it the two foot on the brakes. Because there’s no boost, you can’t push that brake pedal down far enough sometimes to get the brake switch to see that you’re actually pushing it down. So when I’ve had that happen, I put both my feet on it and grab the steering wheel, and I push that brake pedal down further, and then it starts. And after it sat, you probably were able to get that.
SPEAKER 11 :
Do you have to say bad words while you’re doing it?
SPEAKER 06 :
What’s that? Sorry. Oh, yeah, I do. Do you have to say bad words when you’re doing it? I do say quite a few bad words when I do it. But, yeah, that’s because I always forget about it. I don’t like the way that system works, and I forget about it. I get home, I park it, and then I go out the next day, and I can’t get to do it because it’s the same thing. So, yeah, exactly. Put both feet on it, grab the steering wheel, and push down as hard as you can on that brake pedal, and it’ll usually go.
SPEAKER 11 :
Because, you know, it caused me to feel like that earlier version of the car. I just didn’t feel like you’re trusted. So I saw a subsequent one. I’ve had that problem in the 2022 as well, but only once. I’m getting better at always putting the car into.
SPEAKER 08 :
Park. Right, park first before I shut it off, yes. Yeah, and for both you and Josh, Mike, I drive a lot of different press cars and so on, and a lot of them are that way. I’m driving a QX80 Infiniti this week where I’m lazy at times as well. Instead of putting it in park, I just pull into the spot, hit the off button. It’s supposed to go to park, and I’ve noticed even on that car that it can be a little glitchy doing that, and it’s funny, some cars do really well with that, and it’s not a problem at all, and what I will tell you is most EVs, you can just hit the off button, everything goes to park, not a problem, they’re easy. Some of the ICE engine cars aren’t quite as smooth in that whole operation, so I consciously make myself go park, off, because of what you guys are talking about. I’ve experienced that as well.
SPEAKER 06 :
And the ices literally have to move something physically. Correct. When the EVs don’t, it’s all software.
SPEAKER 08 :
What do you mean by ice?
SPEAKER 11 :
What do you mean by ice? What is that?
SPEAKER 08 :
A gas engine, diesel engine. Internal combustion engine. EV being electric. And I drive all different types, Mike, as you know, so I’m used to getting all kinds of different vehicles at different times. I try to make myself, especially with a gas engine, diesel engine car, hit park, then off, versus just going off because I’m spoiled on the EVs. You can just hit off and they’re automatic. It’s an easy thing to do. But I have to make myself mentally when I’m in a regular car, park, then off.
SPEAKER 06 :
And that’s part of the problem we both have. We both drive a lot of EVs, too, and then we go drive something like that.
SPEAKER 11 :
That’s right. What was the motivation for the industry going from, actual gear shifts, lever shifts,
SPEAKER 06 :
Let the computer control it. Now, they want the computer to have control. So you’re just kind of giving it a command, and it decides whether it wants to go in reverse or drive. So we have this quite often. A lot of cars, you open the driver’s door, and they will pop it out of gear and put the brakes on. Because I have to do this all day. I drive a car on an alignment rack, and I’m used to it. I’ve been doing this for years. I want to open that door and see that line on the alignment rack to drive it on, and it always… Puts on the parking brake and takes it out of gear every time. And that’s why. They let the computer have control over it. Instead of you.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah. And another reason, Mike, also is agronomics. They can put the gear shifter or the buttons of anywhere they now want. They don’t have to leave room in the console for a shifter and different things that would be taking up space. So in a lot of ways, it’s not only with what Josh just said for the safety sides and so on. You can’t put it in reverse going down the road as well, by the way. It won’t let you do that, things along those lines. But also on top of that, there’s more flexibility in how they can build the inside cabin with that feature as well. Yeah, it makes sense.
SPEAKER 11 :
Okay, guys, well, thank you very much.
SPEAKER 08 :
Very welcome. No, great question. And for a lot of you that maybe haven’t been in a newer vehicle where everything is electronic, there’s no cable going down to the transmission, which is a lot of cars now. and it’s been that way for a lot of years. You just may not know that, even though you might have an actual gear shifter. It doesn’t mean that it’s actually doing anything. It’s like my Silverado. It’s there. It’s doing nothing other than electronically telling what to do, and you may think, well, it’s got a gear shifter versus a knob. It doesn’t make any difference. They’re all doing the same thing. Buttons, knob, gear shift, whatever. You talk the last decade or so, Josh, it’s all electronics.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, and even some manufacturers keep the four-wheel drive lever like we used to have. There’s nothing there. There’s not a thing there. It looks like it. It looks like it.
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You think you’re actually shifted it, but you’re not. That’s right. Jeff in Montana, hang tight. We’ll come right back to you. Drive Radio KLZ 560.
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SPEAKER 08 :
All right, we are back. Drive Radio, KLZ 560. Roy and Dietze both from Pro-Tech Auto Shield over in Wheat Ridge. And Josh from Ridgeland Auto Brokers and Legacy Automotive as well. Jeff in Montana. Go ahead, sir.
SPEAKER 09 :
Hey, good morning again. I was just up in Kalispell about an hour north of me getting a recall fuel tank replacement done yesterday, and so I was looking through the vehicles on the showroom floor, and it was interesting that the HRV and the CRV still do have shift sticks on them, but the Pilot and the Ridgelines don’t.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yep, and eventually none of them will. That’ll be the trend. Yep.
SPEAKER 09 :
And that’s one of the reasons why I bought my 2019 because it did have the shifter. I mean, it’s all electronic. It’s not physically connected to anything. It’s just. hitting switches in there, but for some reason, I don’t know, they don’t like the physical stick, which, you know, I’m kind of with the previous color. I’m not much for the little buttons.
SPEAKER 08 :
It is something you have to get used to, but, again, for all of you that are listening, it’s going to get to the point where you probably won’t buy anything down the road in the not-too-distant future that isn’t all electronically controlled, just the way it is.
SPEAKER 09 :
Exactly. Ted Kinsman, SAD I didn’t have a question me the recall was on the fuel pump I took it up there, and it was almost a four hour job. Ted Kinsman, And when I got back in the vehicle, there was an odor of gas and they actually I think had to remove the back seat or part portions of the backseat in order to get. Ted Kinsman, To the fuel tank is that correct on that vehicle, I would have thought they could do it from below, but apparently. They couldn’t.
SPEAKER 06 :
What year is it? What kind of car is it?
SPEAKER 09 :
The 2019 Ridgeline.
SPEAKER 06 :
Oh, yeah. No, it’s underneath the back seat. Yeah, that’s why it smells like gas because there’s a little access hatch. You pull the back seat up, and there’s a little panel. You pull the panel off and pull that pump out.
SPEAKER 09 :
Oh, so they don’t have to take the gas tank off?
SPEAKER 06 :
No, it’s hard to drop the tank on that because of the fact that it’s got basically all the suspension around it. Because it’s unibody. And it’s a saddle tank, too. So you have the driveshaft going through it, and a lot of the suspension components are basically bolted all around it. So that’s why they put that hatch in there. Now, if it’s a car that’s easy to drop like a pickup truck, Then they don’t do that.
SPEAKER 08 :
And most pickup trucks, actually, they pull the bed, slide it back a little bit, and then do it and still don’t take the tank out. So you rarely take the tank out anymore unless it’s a rear-mounted SUV or something along those lines, Jeff. Typically, even pickup trucks, I mean, for the longest time doing those, we’d literally take the four to six bolts out of the bed, slide the bed back a little bit, do the pump, and off you go, just like you’re doing the Ridgeline. okay um yeah really quick as a side note not that i would ever recommend that i’ve seen technicians because of whatever reason rust etc cut a panel out of the bed of a truck which i would never recommend but you’d see guys do that and spot weld it back in and off they go and that’s the redneck way of doing it
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, I imagine I could find a few folks up here who would do it that way.
SPEAKER 08 :
Over the course of the years of doing them, I’ve seen a lot, yes.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 08 :
Not all good, by the way.
SPEAKER 09 :
No, not recommended. No. Do not try this at home. Uh, one of the questions that it brought brings up is that when I, before I brought it in, they asked that I have only a quarter of a tank or less than a half bank. And, uh, and they said, it’s because, you know, we don’t want the gas sloshing around. And, and I was kind of, when you said that, it was kind of surprised because I mean, I can understand you wouldn’t want it absolutely chock full.
SPEAKER 08 :
It would make a hill of beans a bit of difference. Whoever told you that, that was just nonsense. Well, on that one, actually, the pump sits in a little divot. Oh, so they want it below the divot.
SPEAKER 06 :
So you’ve got to get it below that because when they’re all the way full, it’ll come out like mad. So that’s probably why.
SPEAKER 08 :
I mean, you’re talking, Jeff, three-quarters full or less would have been fine.
SPEAKER 09 :
Okay, yeah, because I brought it up there with 90 miles left on it.
SPEAKER 08 :
They’re probably just trying to make sure that standard procedure, let’s make sure it has half or less and blah, blah, blah, so that everybody they tell that’s the same story, but you could have been three-quarters full and been fine.
SPEAKER 09 :
Okay, well, I’m actually kind of relieved because I had all these visions of disassembling things and taking the tank out.
SPEAKER 08 :
No, actually, if you think about it, what some of these factory guys have done is exactly what the rednecks did on the pickup trucks by putting an access hatch in. All they did was steal what some redneck did back in the day on a pickup truck. Literally. I’m not joking. That’s kind of what they probably thought was, okay, well, if it works there, let’s do that here. We’ll hide it under the seat.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah. When you care the most, you steal from the best. There you go. Okay. Well, and that gas smell, I guess, will dissipate.
SPEAKER 08 :
It will. It will. Yeah. Yeah, fortunately, that one does. Yes.
SPEAKER 09 :
All righty. Well. Lots of information.
SPEAKER 08 :
All right, appreciate you, Jeff. Nope, thank you very much. That was a good question. And the modern, and by the way, the hatch thing, Josh, that’s been happening on a lot of vehicles for a long time. Some you’d take the back seat out, there’d be a hatch behind the back seat, you know, up on the wall of the back seat, I mean. It just depended on the vehicle.
SPEAKER 06 :
Hondas and Subarus, it’s been there forever. I can’t think of a single true Honda.
SPEAKER 08 :
Where you drop the tank.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, or Subaru would drop the tank.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, yeah. which makes it way easier, by the way. Alex, you’re next.
SPEAKER 10 :
Go ahead. Good afternoon, John. You spoke earlier about flame polishing plastic. Yes, it can be done.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yep. Yeah, how long does it last? I’ve never done it. I’ve always wondered what’s the longevity of doing it.
SPEAKER 10 :
I just recently did this on my late 90s Honda CR-V with the door bumpers, and they had a film that went over them. I tried doing it with a fine Scotch-Brite. It worked for a little bit, but… Then I just used a bare torch and just went over it and blackened them up. No problem. Like they were brand new again.
SPEAKER 08 :
How long ago was that? Probably a couple of days ago. Okay. Well, you know what? I’m just curious because I’ve got some where I’m half tempted to try it. So give me a report back in a few months and tell me how long it lasts. Really, I’m curious to see. I’ve seen guys do it on old ATVs where they’re trying to make an old ATV look new or a motorcycle with a plastic fender and whatever. I’ve seen it. I just don’t know how long it lasts.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yes. This is the first time I’ve done it, so I’ll expect the longevity of it. Thank you. I appreciate that. And then also, got a Ford 250 truck with a C6 transmission that downshifts hard. Okay. What are your thoughts on that as far as what it might be? Hmm.
SPEAKER 08 :
Those were all governors and modulators on those. Those were pretty simplistic. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 06 :
Start on the easy side, new fluid and a filter? Yes, everything’s been done. Everything’s done there. And the mounts, how about your mounts, transmission mount and motor mounts, are they tight?
SPEAKER 08 :
Yep, mounts are good. And when you say downshift hard, I mean like teeth chattering hard?
SPEAKER 10 :
No, it will go out, incline through the gears, fine, no problem. But as I let off the gas and then, go to, say, like coming up to an intersection, it’ll downshift hard much like a manual transmission if I just let out the clutch. So I’m wondering if it has something vacuum related or it might be the modulator.
SPEAKER 06 :
It’s an old TV cable on that, isn’t it?
SPEAKER 08 :
I’m not a Ford guy. I know in Chevys, 350s were cable, 400s were vacuum, and then speed because they had a governor in them as well. On a C6, I’d have to look it up.
SPEAKER 06 :
I think the C6 still had the TV cable, so I’d try a TV cable adjustment. Yeah, kick-down cable adjustment.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, the fellow that I purchased this from, all he knew how to do was drive it, so I had to do basically a mechanical and electrical refresh on it. Got it. But when I was driving it, it didn’t have that linkage rod that went from the carburetor down to the… So it’s a rod, not a cable.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah. So if it didn’t, and you put the rod on it, and so there’s always an adjustment on that. So make sure that’s an adjustment, too. Because a lot of times when you get weird upshifts or downshifts on those, it was always TV cable, kickdown cable, whatever you want to call it. That rod is basically… And there’s adjustment on it, so… I’d fiddle with that for a bit on those older ones. You kind of just had to find it. There’s not a good way to do it. I got a little tool that used to put in the cable and, and would give you this, you know, a kind of a measurement, but I don’t even know where that thing went anymore. So, but basically, yeah, just fiddle with it is what you do.
SPEAKER 10 :
And then something maybe with the modulator, check it out, see if it’s adjusted properly.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yep, that’s what I would do.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, and I think on your rod, I would try, knowing it’s a hard downshift, I would try to shorten the rod so it doesn’t think it needs to downshift as early and see if that helps. Doesn’t that have an adjustment at the end, Alex? No, this is all solid. There isn’t any adjustment for this. Then try to bend it a little bit and shorten it slightly. Huh, okay. You know, because it’s got two S’s. It’s got an S in it, I’m assuming, right? It has to. This one has an eyelet both top and bottom. But, I mean, it makes an S curve go down, doesn’t it? It’s not straight shot? Yeah, it’s got some goofy… Yeah, yeah. In one of those bends, try to bend it just a teeny more and see what it does. Huh, okay. Try shortening it up just a tad is my point. Sure.
SPEAKER 14 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 08 :
See what it does. Let us know.
SPEAKER 14 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 08 :
All right, Alex. And report back on the plastic end of it. I’m anxious to see how that works. Marty, you got a question on changing an actuator? Hang tight. We’ll come right back. Drive Radio KLZ 560.
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All right, we are back. About half an hour left of Drive Radio, KLZ 560. Appreciate you all joining us today. Marty, you are next. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 12 :
Good morning, John. Thanks for taking the call. Sure. I’m on a speakerphone. That’s not bothering you.
SPEAKER 08 :
No, you’re fine. Go right ahead, Marty. You’re good.
SPEAKER 12 :
So I was wondering what the shop hours is to change a blend door actuator on a 2013 F-150. A bunch. Pull the dash.
SPEAKER 08 :
Top of my head and exact hours, I don’t know, Marty, but you’re pulling everything apart to get to it.
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, I’ve done it myself. The reason for the call today is my buddy bought a 2013, and of course it needs an actuator. He bought it off a small lot, and he bought some kind of warranty or something with it. They’re telling him seven hours. And I’m no genius, but after I looked on YouTube, I think I did it in about four hours.
SPEAKER 08 :
Could be. Could be. Now, and what year was yours, same year?
SPEAKER 12 :
Mine’s a 10. Okay. It can’t be much different than a 13, I don’t think.
SPEAKER 08 :
I’d have that, and Josh, you would know better than me. I’d have to look that one up. I don’t know.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, I’ll have to look that one up, too.
SPEAKER 08 :
I don’t know either on that, Marty.
SPEAKER 06 :
They’re always changing the dashes all the time on these things.
SPEAKER 08 :
They can be even one model year different can make a difference on it, Marty. So that one I’d have to look up.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, you take the console out. You take the center of the dash out, including the radio. You take the glove box out. And then you put your arms, one through the center hole of the dash and one through the glove box, I think with a number eight micro wrench to get at these little screws. And I put a motorcraft one in there. And after about a year, it started clicking again.
SPEAKER 06 :
So I just looked it up. It’s 7.5 hours.
SPEAKER 08 :
So that’s accurate.
SPEAKER 06 :
That’s book time.
SPEAKER 08 :
That’s accurate. So that one could be just a tad different than your 2010, Marty. And what, sir? I said that could be a little bit different than your 2010 because book time is 7.5 hours. Yeah.
SPEAKER 12 :
Okay. Well, then they weren’t wrong in telling him that.
SPEAKER 08 :
No, they were accurate in what they said.
SPEAKER 12 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 08 :
All right, sir. All right. No, Marty, appreciate that, and thanks for the double check. And, yeah, for a lot of you that are listening, number one, blend doors are always internal.
SPEAKER 14 :
Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER 08 :
seldom do you not have to pull the dash out to replace them, and that’s pretty much the case from, gosh, the late 90s until now. Some of those you could do without pulling the entire dash back then, but even like my 2004 Ram, you pulled the entire dash assembly apart to even do those doors on that truck, and it hasn’t gotten much different since. Are any of them any easier, or is it still tough?
SPEAKER 06 :
They’re starting, I think, because it’s… It becomes expensive for that little click, click, click. They’re starting to make it a little bit easier, but they’re still hard. If you don’t pull the dash, you’re just going to bleed all over everything.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, and or you’re breaking something.
SPEAKER 06 :
You’re breaking something, yeah.
SPEAKER 08 :
I mean, so for those of you, it’s like back in the day, and I don’t know why. We’ve had this question of the day. I think we had it a few weeks ago. It was one of the jobs, even as a technician, that you just hated to do. That was a question of the day a while back. For me personally, without but a few exceptions, One job I still to this day despise are heater cores. Absolutely hate doing heater cores. They are a pain in the neck, no matter, literally, there’s two necks on it, by the way. They’re a pain in neck neck because they’re just, no matter which car you’re working on, Josh, unless it was a non-AC, whatever, whatever, it might be fairly straightforward and fairly easy. But the majority of heater cores are a pain in the neck.
SPEAKER 06 :
Just like when they were back under the hood, you know. Then it wasn’t bad. I hate the fact that with a heater core, you’ve got to pull the dash and all that, and that’s the pain in the neck. And then you’ve got this core that just drips, so it’s impossible to try and get that thing out without making a mess out of the carpet or the rest of the car. That’s the only part I can’t stand because it’s just… I’ve tried to bag them. You put plastic all the way to it, and it just drips all over you and the car all the way out.
SPEAKER 08 :
It’s slimy and nasty and disgusting. Because typically, this is a maintenance thing, by the way, for everybody listening. One of the ways to avoid heater core issues is keep your fluid clean. change your coolant on a routine basis like you should be. And honestly, you’ll probably never put a heater core in if you do all of that correctly. The reason heater cores fail is because they’re one of the low spots in the system and they’ll collect and corrode and do all sorts of things. And because sometimes of the year, They’re being used, and other times of the year they’re not being used, and so that stuff will just sit in there. And the worse the coolant is, the worse what I just said becomes. And the reality is they are a pain in the neck to do. I never like doing them. I still don’t like doing them. And I think because of that, Josh, I was always one to even to this day, if the coolant needs flush, flush it.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yep, get it done.
SPEAKER 08 :
It’s a lot cheaper than that. I do not push that off because it’s one of those areas of the car I just hate working on even personally.
SPEAKER 06 :
And even with modern cars, I mean, we’ve got the whole dash out, and then we get this huge HVAC box now that we’ve got to go through.
SPEAKER 08 :
And here’s my point, and this is why I brought this up, and Marty, if you’re still listening, tell your friend this. Since you’re going to have everything out… If that’s a truck that has 80,000 plus miles on it, put a heater core in it. You’ve already got it all apart. All your labor is already there. Even if he has to pay for the part himself because the warranty company won’t, buy the heater core and put one in it. Correct? Yeah. Do not do that job without doing the heater cord.
SPEAKER 06 :
And maybe put new doors in because usually the doors were binding, and that might be why if they put a new blend motor in it not too long ago, it fails because it’s got too much tension on it, and the motor can’t overcome it.
SPEAKER 08 :
Can’t argue that either. Great point. So those of you that have any of those heater-type issues, which we’re getting into that time of the year where you may, one other thing, too, to remind everybody of. Most people know this, but not everybody does. And there’s misconceptions here. People have an air conditioning problem now, for example. We’re at the end of October, early November. You might use your AC still a little bit here and there. But for the most part, we’re probably done with one exception. Your defroster. And every time it’s turned on, the air conditioning is working. The reason for that is because it’s conditioning, quote-unquote, the air, taking the moisture out, making the defroster work more efficiently. And a lot of the old cars that didn’t have air conditioning, one of the things that would happen is you’d turn the defrosters on, and they’d immediately fog up the windows. Made it worse, actually, not better. The reason for that is because a non-AC car has no way of taking that moisture out of the system where your modern car with air conditioning does. So that’s why a lot of people will say, well, I’m going into winter. Why do I want to fix my air conditioning? Actually, you want to fix it more now than you actually would in the summertime because of everything I just said. Make sense? Very true. And people don’t realize that, and they’ll think, I’ll just put that off down the road, or I’ll recharge it down the road, or I’ll worry about that next spring when I need it again. No, you actually need it more now than you do then because of what I just said. And it’s another misconception most people have because they think, well, I’m heading into winter. I don’t need my air conditioning. Every time you turn the defroster on, the AC is running. Even though it’s warm, it’s running because it’s taking the moisture out of the air. So just a side note for those of you listening where you think, I don’t need air conditioning right now. It’s not a big deal. I’ll take that repair and I’ll save it for later. No, you’re better off fixing it now than you are later. And by the way, parts availability and so on, now that we’re out of the heat of summer, is probably more available now than it is next July. Right. So when it comes to finding parts and fixing it, you’re actually better off doing it now than you are next June or July because of that factor as well. So just a side note, if you need air conditioning work done, don’t put that off because we’re heading into winter. Opposite, actually get it done now. All right, we’ll be right back. One more segment left, Drive Radio, KLZ 560.
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SPEAKER 08 :
All right, we are back. Drive Radio, KLZ 560. And you heard an ad a moment ago for ProTech Auto Shield, and we have Roy and Dietze here today. We’ve been talking about their end of things from paint protection to just getting ready for winter, ceramic coating, all of those things. I’ve got a few more questions for them we’ll get done here before we end the show. Josh, of course, from Legacy Automotive and Regional Line Auto Brokers up in Boulder. If you’re looking for a good, new, used car, and I say this a lot during the week for Josh, but… Even if it’s not on the lot and there’s something you’re thinking about buying, give them a call. Tell Justin what you’re looking for. You guys go to the auction, and you’re looking at cars weekly, right?
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, and we’re trying to buy off the street all the time, too.
SPEAKER 08 :
You’re looking at trades and all sorts of things. And what I mean by that is you may be looking for a particular car, and somebody comes in and they’ve got that car to trade. Well, if they know that they automatically have a place to go with that car, that whole transaction just became that much easier. Mm-hmm. And those are the sort of things that can happen where if you’re, as I always say, never buy a car when you need it. Buy a car when you don’t need it because your choices and the length of time that you have available to buy that car makes everything much easier. So buy in advance, I guess you could say, not when you absolutely have to have one.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, because when you’re in a hurry, you don’t end up in the car that you really want.
SPEAKER 08 :
You make worse decisions. You do. Let’s just say it that way. Or poorer decisions probably is the way to say it. Okay, for all the business folks that are out there, Roy and Dietze that are listening, where you see these wraps and these different things, and we call them wraps because that’s what they are. You’re essentially – you can change the color of a car. You can advertise your business. You can do both. Now, I’ve talked to you guys about this in the past. When it comes to setting up that business and wrapping it, there’s – How should I say this? There’s programs, because I’ve seen them online, where you can take your vehicle, and you can put your logo, and you can see kind of what things look like before it’s all said and done, and this is what I want things to look like. Problem is, that’s not really the right way to do what I just said when it comes to wrapping, because a lot of other factors have to be taken into consideration. Right, Dietze?
SPEAKER 20 :
Yes, because when you’re designing, you’re designing on a flat surface.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 20 :
When you’re… Once you translate that design into your car, your car has curves. So if you don’t take that into account when you’re designing, you’re going to end up with a phone number
SPEAKER 08 :
cut off or in a curve where you can’t really see it when you’re driving or okay things like that okay so in other words when you guys are laying laying it out is probably the best way to say it you’re taking all of those factors into consideration including if the guy’s on a job site and it’s the back door for example and one of the two doors is open what does it look like
SPEAKER 20 :
Yeah, you don’t want to end up with like half a word that’s inappropriate. Thank you.
SPEAKER 08 :
You’re taking all of those things into account so that, A, we don’t want to offend people. B, we want people to still understand who we are and that we’re there and make everything look good at the same time. And by the way, I’ve seen some really good wraps where they look great. You guys did one for a client of mine where it looks perfect. I’ve seen other raps where it’s like, that is so busy and there’s so much going on there, I don’t even know what that business is. You’re so busy trying to figure out what’s going on in the rap that you’re lost.
SPEAKER 20 :
Yeah. And I think that’s one of the things that also people try to put way too much information on a wrap. Like they want to put every single thing they do. So that’s one of the things that we work with our designers to make sure that if they want to add a lot, you know, you can tell them like, hey, you know, this is what it’s going to look like. I don’t recommend it.
SPEAKER 08 :
It’s too much.
SPEAKER 20 :
This is what you should do.
SPEAKER 08 :
Absolutely. Okay. Question came into and I was going to ask it earlier and I forgot. We’ve talked in the past about front window tint. And the reality is, yes, you have to be careful with how much you do and how dark you go because, yes, you could be pulled over and written for a ticket if it’s too dark. Now, if you go super light, the reality is most officers will never even know that. That that tint is on there. And the question I had from a from a listener just a moment ago is what’s that degree? In other words, what’s the percentage to where you’ll be fine versus you’re going to have problems with the legal side of it?
SPEAKER 20 :
It depends on the state you’re in. So here in Colorado, the legal limit for the front windows is 27%. You have to be able to see light and light 27%, which is fairly light. Most people will go darker than that, but it’s legal.
SPEAKER 08 :
That’s when you can have an issue. So 27% means the majority of light is coming through minus the UV. exactly is that right am i saying that correctly where you’re still allowing all the light to come in and what i’ve talked about is with having um you know astigmatism like i have but those of you that have that and drive at night you know what i mean things start to get a little bit blurry the light’s coming at you can kind of get this feathery look to it and so on and what i will tell you is by doing the light tint on the windshield that you guys do you don’t eliminate all of that but you eliminate a lot of that and it makes night driving that much easier does that make sense
SPEAKER 20 :
Yes, and when we talk about the percentage on the windshield here in Colorado, it’s 70%.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right, so you have to allow 70% through on the windshield.
SPEAKER 20 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 08 :
So anything less than that, you’re potentially going to have issues.
SPEAKER 20 :
Exactly.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay, now the brow, you can do whatever you want to on the brow, correct? You can go as dark as you want on the brow. What’s the inch for the brow that you can get by with?
SPEAKER 20 :
At the top of my head, I want to say it’s six inches, which is not a lot either. Most people will go lower than that.
SPEAKER 08 :
And if you do, you could potentially have a problem with an officer.
SPEAKER 20 :
And it depends on the officer. They might have you remove it right then, right then and there.
SPEAKER 08 :
Is there a way, and this is a question that just came in, is there a way for an officer to test the windshield? Because side glass is easy. They just slip it over the glass, and they can tell the light going in and out. Can they tell on a windshield?
SPEAKER 07 :
They can. I mean, there’s a meter that they can use, I mean, from the outside and the inside. Now, that’s an expensive meter. Most officers aren’t going to carry that around. I was going to say that, yeah. But they can. It’s possible.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay, so point being on the front windshield, if you want to be safe and you do tint it, just go really light. The reality is unless, I’ll be honest, unless an officer can feel it physically, in fact, most of you listening, you wouldn’t know it’s tinted. It’s literally that light where you really can’t tell from the outside looking in even, you can’t tell that there’s any tint on it. Am I correct in saying it that way?
SPEAKER 20 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 08 :
It’s really, really hard to tell.
SPEAKER 20 :
It’s pretty light.
SPEAKER 08 :
I mean, most… I mean, there’s times where I’ll be even like, is this one tinted? Because I’ve got several cars. And I’ll be like, okay, is this one tinted or not? And I literally have to go up to the window and, you know, I go find the corner and I just feel, you know, is there any window tint on the inside of this or not? And then I know whether it is or isn’t because really you can’t tell in some cases. It’s that light, I guess, is the best way for me to say that. Yeah. Other advantages to doing the windshield versus side windows besides what I just mentioned? The heat. Heat rejection. Okay.
SPEAKER 07 :
So keep in mind that your windshield is the biggest glass of your vehicle. So a lot of heat goes through the windshield. So if you tint it, if you do some ceramic window film on it, your car is going to stay cooler longer.
SPEAKER 08 :
So when it comes to the ceramic tint, this is, again, another one of those where somebody may say, well, I can get my windows done for $75. Well, yeah, you might be able to. There’s a lot of different types of tint. Thank you. There’s all sorts of different types of tint. Explain that as well, Dietze.
SPEAKER 20 :
So your most basic one is going to be probably the carbon tint. That one is not as expensive. but it doesn’t have the ceramic, it’s not going to give you that heat rejection. It will still give you the UV protection, but it’s not going to have that heat rejection. So it’s pretty much like having the smoke glass on a new vehicle.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 20 :
There’s also ceramic tint, which is what we talk about when we’re referring to heat rejection. That’s the ceramic tint we’re talking about. There’s the metallic tint, which is usually like the mirror one. That’s completely illegal. And sometimes the technology has gotten a lot better, but sometimes it can affect the signal on your radio and cell phones and stuff like that. And then you have the Chameleon window film, which kind of changes colors. I’ve seen that.
SPEAKER 08 :
I’m not a fan. Yeah, I’m not a fan either. Personally, just not a fan. Some people like that. It changes.
SPEAKER 20 :
Some people like that. That’s a different type of film. Okay. There’s a lot.
SPEAKER 08 :
So my point is when you guys are out pricing, even the dealer may even say, hey, we’ll tint the windows. We’ll include it in the package. It’s X amount of money, $300, $150, $200, whatever, whatever the number is. Just be careful with that because typically that’s not super high-quality film. A guy is coming around mobile and doing that. Not that that’s a problem because mobile can be okay. But just know that typically that’s not going to be the highest quality of film because somebody’s running around on a mobile basis doing that for the dealer. The dealer isn’t taking that, marking it up to you. So there’s two steps of markup involved in that, and you’re typically not getting the best film when it’s all said and done.
SPEAKER 20 :
And they will also take advantage that most people don’t know that the back is only smoked glass, not tint.
SPEAKER 08 :
There’s no UV protection on the privacy glass, right? Yeah, and that’s something I learned from you guys. Again, I didn’t know this before you guys came on board with us. Those of you that have privacy glass, could be back window, could be the far back window, could be on your SUV, your Tahoe, Suburban, whatever, and all the wrapped back is privacy glass. That’s fine. It keeps people from seeing in and out, but there’s no UV protection. In other words, the heat buildup and so on will be just the same as if you had regular glass, correct? I mean, maybe a little bit less, but it’s not like having UV protection.
SPEAKER 20 :
Exactly.
SPEAKER 08 :
So you guys can then protect those as well, right? Yeah.
SPEAKER 20 :
Yeah, so I had a customer come in yesterday, and he needed pretty much everything. So I offered, hey, I have a package that includes the window tint. He’s like, oh, I already got the window tint at the dealer. And I’m like, well, what did you get? And he’s like, oh, I negotiated for them to upgrade the tint, and they did the front two windows. And I’m like, well, what about the rest of the vehicle? He’s like, oh, no, it already has tint. And I’m like, okay. So they definitely took advantage of that because it doesn’t have window tint. It has smoked glass.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right.
SPEAKER 20 :
He was like, oh, okay. So that’s something that I went through the whole process.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 20 :
I went through the whole process of explaining the difference.
SPEAKER 08 :
Gotcha. Okay, before we end, Josh, for you really quick, used car prices. Up, down, where are we at with things? What do you predict is going to happen after the election? New car dealers are loaded with cars right now. It might be a good time to buy a new car by the end of the year. Problem is financing is typically high unless you can get some sort of a deal.
SPEAKER 06 :
Right. So right now, I think prices are stable. They’re not really moving that much. But I think hopefully the new car dealers start selling cars because they don’t make new used cars.
SPEAKER 08 :
They do not. You have to have new cars sold to have used cars in the marketplace.
SPEAKER 06 :
And maybe, hopefully, once we get through this election, people start… buying toys again, or new cars, and then… Well, and that helps all of that.
SPEAKER 08 :
I mean, it helps you guys on the window tint and all of that side as well, because when people buy a new car, they’ll go and do those sorts of things. Buying that new car gives a used car to go into the marketplace, which gets you helped out, helps that person that can’t buy the new car, that needs a good used car. I mean, this is a whole circle. that starts to happen that right now is not. No.
SPEAKER 06 :
And even for us, like we’re selling to people who need cars, not people who just, I want a car. Right.
SPEAKER 08 :
I want a new car. This is, I need a car.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah. And it’s, and we’re selling at the lower end of the price range too. Anything above about 15 is not selling right now. So they need a car. They just need transportation. And that’s where we’re at.
SPEAKER 08 :
And for those of you listening, I say it during the week, but I’ll say it again today. Two locations, Boulder, Fort Collins, RidgelineAutobrokers.com. You can find them both there. They’ll also take care of your current vehicle, upgrade it, accessorize it, whatever you need. They’re going to take care of that at either location. And again, RidgelineAutobrokers.com, easiest way to do it. Real quick, what’s you guys’ phone number at ProTech? Our phone number is…
SPEAKER 20 :
303-423-2841.
SPEAKER 08 :
All right. That’s it for today, guys. Enjoy the rest of your weekend, and we’ll see what happens on what Josh said a moment ago with the election. I’ll talk about that probably next week because there’ll be an outcome. I hope by then. This is Drive Radio, KLZ 560.
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