12/28/24: Len Lyall Chevrolet & Airgun Outdoors & Shoot Indoors-Buckley, CO Today’s Guests: Dan Johnson, General Manager of Len Lyall Chevrolet talks about their amazing year end sales, excellent trad in values, and their impeccable service shop. Then, Travis Peacock, Owner of Airgun Outdoors in Parker and Tim Christopherson, Owner of Shoot Indoors Buckley join the show. Listen for your chance to win a $25 Gift Card to Shoot Indoors Buckley, CO location. Download the KLZ 560 App to listen live. The Sportsman Of Colorado Radio Podcast on www.SportsmanofColorado.com is sponsored by www.DavisTent.com.
SPEAKER 02 :
Welcome to Sportsman of Colorado, Colorado’s premier outdoor radio show heard every Saturday afternoon on KLZ 560 with insights on hunting, fishing, archery, guns, and ammo from Colorado’s top outfitters featuring the industry’s leading experts on how to enhance your experience in the great outdoors. Now, here’s your host, Scott Watley.
SPEAKER 05 :
Welcome to Sportsman of Colorado. Thank you so much for joining us today. Well, we are wrapping up another year, and man, quick reflection, we started Sportsman of Colorado the very first Saturday of 2013, and so the years have flown by, and we just want to thank all of our our listeners and sponsors and friends of the show, people we’ve met over the years that have helped us out. And really, there has been one that has stood out and that has helped us a lot. And that is our first guest today, Dan Johnson, general manager of Lynn Lyle Chevrolet. Dan, we do thank you, sir. Man, it’s hard to believe we’ve been doing this this long.
SPEAKER 11 :
I know. When you said that, I went, wow, I’m getting old.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, me too. Anyway, Happy New Year. Hey, Happy New Year. Man, almost. I’m telling you, it’s just crazy. You know, I’m sitting there. I’m kind of old-fashioned. I use a day timer, one of the bigger day timers to put in all. Well, you do, too, on your desk now that I think about it. You know, put all the guests for shows. You line up and you think, OK, this is my plan now. I really wonder what’s going to happen in 2025. Because you know what? You never know. It’s blank pages, man.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, I haven’t flipped the calendar yet, but, you know, it won’t be long.
SPEAKER 05 :
I know, for sure. Well, hey, so a good few days left here to come by and take advantage of some good deals. And we kind of mentioned this on the last show, you’re with us, but, you know, hey, neither of us are tax accountants, but it seems to be for a lot of people, your CPA or accountant may say, hey, good time to go buy a car. So go check with them and see and get by Lynn Lyle.
SPEAKER 11 :
I think it happens more often than not. I’ve had a couple of people. One guy, his car broke, and I said, well, just call your tax guy and see. And he called me right back and said, oh, yeah. He said, this works. He says, I saved like $30,000 by buying a Tahoe on my taxes. And I said, wow. So, yeah, we’ll work this deal out. But, yeah, I mean, check, because it could – mean quite a bit tax savings and you know that’s for a lot of businesses same as cash so right um you know and you might as well get it this year you know for this this tax year but but it does work i mean there’s one sitting under my showroom floor that the guy the reason he’s doing it for taxes too i think it has to be six thousand pound gvw which is Basically, the pickups, the Tahos, the Suburbans. I don’t think smaller cars qualify for that, but once again, you and I are not tax accountants. But that seems to be what people are doing anyway.
SPEAKER 05 :
Sure. And we mentioned this on the EVs. There’s some incentives with those pretty good, isn’t there?
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah. As a matter of fact, the state tax, and that just, boom, comes right off the price of the car. It’s $5,000 today, and come January 1st, it goes to $3,500. So if you’re thinking about EV, it probably behooves you to move sooner rather than later, at least $1,500 for absolutely no reason. But yeah, those things are… great they lease great you know low payments and you know for as we’ve talked about before you know for the person that’s unsure about ev but might want to stick their toe in the water you know a lease is a great way to go because you’re you know you’re not completely married to it you’re just kind of on a honeymoon stage and it works out for you and you love it you know you can always buy it at the end of the lease and it works out all about the same and you get all the tax credits. You get the $5,000 state, you get $7,500 federal. It’s huge money, which, because of those two items, that makes for a fairly low payment on a really, really nice car.
SPEAKER 05 :
Sure. Once again, Dan Johnson’s with us. It’s Lynn Lyle Chevrolet, 14500 East Colfax. Now, today’s Saturday, kind of normal hours?
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, we’re normal hours. Now, New Year’s Day, sales will be open, service and parts and body will be closed. Sales will be open 9 to 4, something like that, so we’re here. you know, for, you know, those times. And like I say, if you’re a little late, we could always date at 1231. Okay.
SPEAKER 05 :
All right. Good deal. And, you know, man, you still got a good selection there, Dan. You know, as a matter of fact, I was there this morning just kind of looking around. And, you know, man, I’ll tell you, there’s just something about, you know, being able to get a new car. Maybe it’s just new to you, but, you know. No matter what, if you’re in the pre-owned market, Dan’s got some good choices for you there. And, Dan, here’s what’s funny, too. As a matter of fact, from our conversation this morning, you never know what you’re going to get on any given day. And there was, you know, one clean one that just came back that make a really good card for somebody.
SPEAKER 11 :
Oh, yeah. I mean, you know. I always say, you know, and this is the perfect example, that car that you’re referring to, I believe, was a 16 Equinox owned by an elderly lady. You know, absolutely clean as a whistle. All the services are done. Good Carfax at 39,000 miles. You know, it’s just, you know, that’s a value for somebody. You know, we take them in trade and, you know… Your lady’s car had 100,000 miles, but, boy, you don’t find a car much cleaner than that, and it’s not a whole lot of money. Sure.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, exactly. Yeah, I’m telling you, now’s the time to get by. Hey, it is just a few more days left here in the year. But Dan, his team will take great care of you. And, you know, if you just haven’t looked around and it’s amazing, Dan, how many times people, you know, I’ve met there or talked to them and they’ve got their mind made up what they want. But I’ve just asked them to be open minded. And like, you know, the lady we just did a transaction with, she was she was really wanting to replace her car. But you guys don’t make that anymore. And hey, Stepped into an Equinox, saw her last night. She’s owned it 48 hours, and she is as happy as can be. So you never know what you might end up with.
SPEAKER 11 :
And most of the manufacturers are getting away from the car-car. They’re all SUVs, small SUVs, midsize SUVs. They’re just more practical. You can see better out of them. They’re easier to get in and out of. It’s just mostly all-wheel drive. and you know most cars are either front wheel or rear wheel drive and uh you know it’s just safer and you know yeah i did ask her a little better i did ask her i said so i mentioned to you you might like sitting up high or do you like that and she said i absolutely love it you were right yeah i mean i you know there was once upon a time that’s all we had were cars but now i’m i wouldn’t even think of getting a car you know unless it was a sports car or something but uh you know that’s a whole different animal but an everyday car suvs are so much easier and trucks are so much easier to get in and out of you see better handle better you know it’s just that’s why we’re all going to them you know general motors for you name it you know all the manufacturers are going to small or midsize SUV type thing.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right. And there’s still some deals financing. I know there’s different models. Don’t have time to get into all those, but there are some still really good deals on financing as well.
SPEAKER 11 :
Oh, yeah. I got, like, on some of the Silverado pickups, I got 0%, you know. So, you know, and it just varies. Like you say, you know, they all kind of are different. So, you know, we could spend an hour going through every single model and what the interest rates are. But, yeah, there’s manufacturer’s incentives for interest rates, which make them quite a bit cheaper than… you know, prime rate now, I think, what, six and a half, something like that. So, you know, quite a bit cheaper. So they’re coming to the party and, you know, trying to make cars more affordable and payments more affordable. So, you know, and when they hadn’t done that, you know, in the COVID days or a little bit after, you know, there were nothing on nothing. But now we have some inventory and the manufacturer knows they have to support it. And, And, you know, the deals are good.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yep, absolutely. You know, I do just take a minute and touch on the story with the lady I just brought you, because I think there’s so many people out there that make this mistake. And that’s that’s repairing a car, whether it be body work, whether it be mechanically, when it’s really not worth sticking that money in the car. A lot of people go, well, I don’t want payment. But you know what? When you get into a car that’s, you know. No. 120,000 miles up, whatever the case may be, and you’re sticking $7,000 to $10,000 in a car, that’s going to be a very unique situation where that’s worth it, isn’t it?
SPEAKER 11 :
Scott, I had four this week that are the exact same scenario. The guy I told you they’d call his accountant, and he said, do it. He had a $5,000 repair bill sitting in service, and he said, no. You know, I got 80,000 miles on my Tahoe, you know, so it just worked out. Your lady, same thing. She had, you know, $7,000, $8,000 worth of damage, and it just, you know, it just… And it was, what, I think a 2016 or something? 2016, yep, yep. Yeah. And, you know, and 107,000 miles, and the car wasn’t worth that. Right, right. You know, and I still gave her, you know… No, she was very happy. Yeah. And she had $7,000 worth of repair. $14,000 out of the car that, you know, that was worth seven, $8,000. So yeah, it just doesn’t pay to, you know, you’re just doing, and, and then, you know, then what happens? Okay. So you spend that four or $5,000 and, Eight months down the road, something else.
SPEAKER 05 :
Something else.
SPEAKER 11 :
Completely different. Yep. And then all of a sudden you say, well, I don’t want a car payment. Well, you just spent $10,000. That’s kind of a car payment.
SPEAKER 05 :
No doubt. No doubt. Well, folks, hey, you’re in the market. Get by and see Dan. And when you go in, hey, just let them know whoever greets you. You’d like to say hello to Dan and really thank him for helping us with Haystack Up Radio and our Sportsman of Colorado radio show. We couldn’t do it without their help. And so… Dan, we’re looking forward to 2025 with you, sir, and appreciate all you’ve done for us and for all our listeners and friends. And, you know, business relationships should be fun. And I honestly say this, man, in 14, 15 years we’ve been doing stuff together. Man, it’s awesome. It’s so much fun.
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah, it is. It’s been great. I mean, you know, we’re friends. Yeah. Not just business partners, we’re friends. And, you know, and that’s how a lot of my customers are, too. You know, they just become friends over years and, you know, just do stuff together and, you know, if they need anything, they know we’re here for them, take care of them. They feel like they can walk in here and… You know, they’re comfortable. Yeah.
SPEAKER 05 :
And you look at all the people out of state, man, over these last, you know, few years of friends of ours and stuff that have come. I mean, they call you like you’re their neighborhood dealer and they’re in Kansas or Texas or Oklahoma, you know, and they feel the same way. So that’s when, you know, you’ve taken care of people, man.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, we try, and that’s what builds our business is repeat and referral. There’s a lot of dealers out there that, you know, they’re just going for the one-time whack, so to speak, you know, and, you know, they don’t help mountain service. You know, they’re strangers to the dealership. I’m sure the people hate going there, and, you know, but I try not to run this deal that way. You know, we have, you know, everybody’s, good and friendly, and like I say, we depend on repeat referral. You’re about the only guy I advertise with, and I spend very little money advertising just because our repeat referral business is so strong. Yes, sir.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, we appreciate it, Bud, and Happy New Year to you, your family, your staff, and I’m sure I will see you very soon. All right.
SPEAKER 11 :
Happy New Year.
SPEAKER 05 :
Take care. Happy New Year to you. That’s Dan Johnson, Len Lyle of Chevrolet. Drive east and pay the lease. This is Sportsman Colorado. We’ve got to take a quick break, and we’ll be back with more right after this. Are you ready to experience the thrill of seeing the biggest selection of firearms, ammo, and accessories you’ve ever seen? Hey, Scott Whatley here inviting you to the final three-day Tanner Gun Show, December 27th through the 29th in Greeley at the Island Grove Regional Park. Load up on ammo and save big. Hey, the new tax hike hits next year, so save now. Tickets available at the door or get them online at tannergunshow.com. Tanner Gun Show, December 27th through the 29th.
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SPEAKER 15 :
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SPEAKER 05 :
Welcome back to Sportsman of Colorado. Again, thanks so much for being with us. Well, hope everyone had a wonderful, wonderful Christmas. And we are looking forward to wrapping up the year here. And if you listened last week, we ran out of time with our friends from Bighorn Farm. So Ryan Resch is back with us. So, Ryan, good to see you, sir. Good to see you, too, Scott. And Houston West. Now, I ask him, how did he get that name? Dude, he should be in cowboy movies with that name or something. I don’t know. The parents did me right. Yeah.
SPEAKER 07 :
Did one of them pick Houston and one of them pick, oh, I like West. I was supposed to get named after my dad, and my mom wasn’t too quite fond of that one. Now, you can’t say that without telling us the name. I can’t say it. I’ll get in trouble. You might be in trouble already.
SPEAKER 05 :
I know. I think I did.
SPEAKER 07 :
I just have to tell him not to listen.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah. But Houston West is with us. And we were talking about that. Ryan, let’s hit the store real quick. Still some closeouts going on.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yep. Yep. Still running all of our holiday deals. Up to 15% off select firearms. We’ve got tons of great stuff. I know we’re going to get into talking about some duck hunting and when duck season closes. We’ve got a considerable amount of time left on that. Now’s a good time to sneak in and still grab a good deal here before the end of the year on a brand new shotgun that maybe will make the difference on your next hunt. We’ve got stuff from… Franke, Benelli, Stoger, what else we got hanging up on the wall there right now? We’ve got some CZs, some over-under action, side-by-side, stuff like that. Yeah, we picked up a couple of cool used vintage side-by-sides, some brownings, over-unders from some customers over the last couple of weeks too. Those are either up on gun broker or, uh, making their way towards that way. Cause that is where we kind of, um, highlight a lot of our used guns. If you see them on gun broker, you can come in the store. You can, as long as there’s no bids, you can come in and purchase them at a buy it now price. Um, you can also, uh, just come in and get some eyes on them and even check them out, you know, put your hands on them. And even if they do have bids and then go place your bid online. So, um, yeah, we got some really great inventory right now. And, uh, and some great deals going through the end of the year. So come on by and we’ll get you set up.
SPEAKER 05 :
Good deal. You know, maybe this time of year, maybe just recently through the Christmas holidays, we’re maybe around some loved ones and you’re like, Dad, what are you going to be doing with all those guns? Or Uncle Bob, what are you going to do with those guns you got? And they didn’t know. Hey. This is something that Bighorn Firearms can help you out with. So take just a minute, Ryan, and tell us about that.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, we purchase guns, gun collections. You know, I mean, it could be one or two guns or it could be 125. You know, you can either call ahead or shoot an email to me directly, ryan at bighornfirearms.com. If you’ve got a spreadsheet or some photos, happy to take a look at those and let you know what we’re interested in and what maybe is, I mean, really there’s not a whole lot we’re not interested in. Sure. We can just kind of get the conversation going that way. We can always, if it’s a large collection, we can come out to you at a time that’s convenient for everybody. If it’s just a handful or something like that, or even if it’s like a dozen, we can set up the classroom during a weekday and put up a couple tables in there and have some private space to lay everything out and talk about what you got. And either make you an offer. Consignment is also an option, too. If we can’t necessarily agree on a price or you’re not in a huge hurry to sell everything and you want to squeeze a few extra dollars out of them, we can maybe go the consignment route as well. Yeah, just give us a call or shoot me an email, and we’ll start the conversation.
SPEAKER 05 :
That’s Ryan at Bighorn Firearms?
SPEAKER 13 :
Correct. Bighornfirearms.com. All right.
SPEAKER 05 :
All right, Houston. We talked last week a little bit about the hunting world a little bit and all the guns that you guys have, but let’s focus on shotguns a little bit here for our time today. Yeah. You know, sometimes guys like you moved here, you know, and they may not have been into waterfowl hunting or upland bird hunting or whatever. So if somebody comes in and just says, hey, man, kind of looking for a shotgun. What’s kind of your if I came in and said, hey, I’m looking for a shotgun. I’ve never owned one before. What would be your type interview questions to me to help me make a good buying choice?
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah. that’s a great question i mean most of the time first off it’s you know what do you want to do with it is it something you just want to go hunt with is it something that you want to do you know have as a protection at the house as well um because you can really get into something that can do it all uh you can you know have something you can go rabbit hunt you can duck hunt and you could deer hunt if you needed to probably not out here but back home you know we throw some slugs or some buckshot sure and take it out um You start there, and then you get into how much do you want to spend because that really creates, are you going to go pump? Are you going to go semi-auto? Do you want to go fancier and get the over and under or side by side? Do you like the look? Do you like the feel? Are you mostly shooting targets? You probably want to go with something that’s more of the over and under line, and you can get into those from all across the board for price ranges. Are you going hunting? You probably want that third shot, little things like that. You must have seen me shoot.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah. We were just out last week, and we went with Kevin Flesch to a tournament. We were out in Kansas. Real quick, there was seven of us. In three days, and I only got to hunt one day, but in three days, 461 birds. Oh, goodness. Dude, it was crazy. We were shooting like crazy. I want to come on that one. Chucker, Quail, and the Quail were flying unbelievable in Pheasant. I mean, it was awesome. But anyway, yeah. But it is nice. But, you know, every other guy there. Head over and under. Over and under.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah. I mean, you see that a lot, and it’s great. Over and under is great when you’re smoking the birds, but when that one gets away, you really want that third shot a little bit where you’ll just struggle to reload real fast. But all of those little things can go into it. Do you already have a gun that’s your hunting gun? Do you want something that’s more just enjoyable that you— you know get more pleasure in taking out i mean that’s kind of how i am i get weird about it i like hunting with side by sides and over and unders for ducks just because it’s more of a challenge and it’s makes me feel cooler yeah that’s half of it sure um so and you know i kind of i grew up just shooting 12 gauge i mean that’s all i ever shot until really last couple of years and actually i got a couple from ryan and uh over the last few years and
SPEAKER 05 :
Got one real nice Benelli, you know, in a 20 gauge. And I shot that out there when we got into the quail and chuck. And it was really nice to shoot a 20. I mean, it really was because I’m just so used to that 12 gauge. So, again, there’s a lot of just trying to figure out, you know. What you want to do with it.
SPEAKER 07 :
I’m a big fan of the 28 gauge because it patterns essentially the same as a 12 gauge will, just less pellets per capita. But you have hardly any recoil and just enough power. If you spend money on shells, that’s where that overlap is. But it’ll do everything a 12 will do if you can hit what you’re shooting at.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right. Again, Houston West is with us. It’s Bighorn Firearms, also Ryan Resch, the owner. They’re located at 2175 South Jasmine. And maybe you’ve heard Ryan on before, and you knew they were a gun store, but you didn’t really realize all they carry. So, hey, if you’re into hunting, hey, this is a great store to go check out. And they’ve got a great selection of rifles, shotguns. They’ve got it all. So go check them out. Now, when we talk about a gun fitting, and again, we talked about this last week, shotgun is super, super important. Not all shotguns you buy are going to come with different adjustments. So kind of break in about even what you’re talking about with shims and fitting and, you know, the pitch and things of a gun.
SPEAKER 07 :
So that’s all it really comes down to, you know, body style. Unfortunately, the gun industry, they make most shotguns for your average Joe, you know, your normal dude. Most of us aren’t built that way. We’re all built different. So, you know, length of pull can be a big one. That’s that’s where I like to start with people when stuff’s just too short and you’re jammed up on something. You might be shooting it all your life, and you don’t even know. And how do they measure that length of pull? There’s a lot of different ways you can go about it. The easy, quick way is you put the butt of the shotgun right in the crook of your elbow and see where the trigger lays on your finger. You’d like it to be on about that middle pad. It can be a little bit short, a little long. Everybody’s different. But that’s a really, really great place to start because if it doesn’t fit you there, it’s not going to fit you anywhere else. And you can get more into it in the drop. And like we were talking about, the Benelli’s come with the shims. And if you’re listening out there and you have a Benelli Super Black Eagle and it just doesn’t shoot right, put that 60 degree shim in and it’ll change it. I’ve told so many people that and they’ll go from hating it to loving it. Right. And all that really does is change the angle of the stock. So it makes that barrel more in line with your eyes. So you’re seeing what you’re shooting at.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 07 :
Looking over it.
SPEAKER 05 :
But I would think there are probably a lot of people, and I mean, I was guilty of this for a long time, get a gun, take it out of the box, throw the box up, never even looked underneath the what all came with it.
SPEAKER 07 :
Exactly. Do you see that sometimes? All the time. Mostly with shock. I mean, even me growing up, you know. You just give a shot. Someone give you a shotgun and you go point it at the birds and shoot them. You know, there’s not much more to it. But, I mean, most people you talk to that, unless you’re, you know, a turkey hunter, most people don’t even pattern their shotguns. And people don’t think it’s a big deal. I mean, if your pattern’s going far right, you’re going to miss every bird that you shoot at that’s flying left. So that, I mean, little stuff like that, it gets a lot more technical than just a scatter gun, which is what most people…
SPEAKER 05 :
You’ve got to shoot different loads, too. Like we said earlier, maybe last week, but just because your buddy has that shotgun and uses that shell, for whatever reason, it may fit all of him perfect, but it may not be for you and your gun.
SPEAKER 07 :
And his gun might shoot dead on, so that shell works great for him. Yours might shoot three inches high and to the right. And that’s where it really is important to go in and test and know what works and what doesn’t. And, you know, unfortunate for me, I have that itch to fulfill. So I like to go out there and test a lot of stuff. My wallet doesn’t like it, but I sure do. But it also, it’s interesting to know, to set myself up for as much success as I possibly can. And others. That’s, you know, that’s what we’re doing it for.
SPEAKER 05 :
And here’s the cool thing. People can just come in and talk to you. Exactly. I mean, that’s free. Exactly. It’s free. Just to come in. Ryan has to pay me for it. Yeah, yeah. They don’t.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah. Just come in. It’s worth it, though.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah. But just check some guns out, hold some, see how they feel to you.
SPEAKER 13 :
And, yeah, that’s great. I’m pretty sure he likes talking about shotguns and shooting birds and stuff, too.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, yeah. I do. No doubt. And then, you know, chokes. Now, once you get into a certain level of gun, I don’t know, price point, whatever, sometimes they’ll come two, three, four chokes, right? Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, most everything these days at least comes with a three-choke set, which is great. Most of the chokes you’re getting, depending on price range, the higher in price range you get, the better quality they’re going to be. But that is something that can make a huge difference. If you have a gun that’s just not patterning, it’s not shooting well, if you invest in a quality choke that’s drilled out the way it should be and is concentric the way it should be, it can make a very big difference in your pattern. You can take a $300 gun, put a $200 choke in it, and it’s going to shoot really, really well. You can also have a $1,000 gun with a $50 choke in it, and it might shoot horribly. You can get into that conversation for hours. There’s so many different chokes out there. But definitely specializing them. If you’re looking at duck hunting, it’s probably a good idea to get an extended… duck hunting choke because it makes a big difference.
SPEAKER 05 :
Absolutely. Over these last few years, I’ve really seen that. I’m using a turkey choke now. I forgot what it’s even called. I’m shooting some Apex ammo, number nines, I think it is. And I’ve got it on video, shot a turkey at 93 yards in Montana, dead. I mean, didn’t flop, nothing. That’s a long shot. I mean, 93 yards, just dead, dead. It’s cool when you’ve got the right stuff.
SPEAKER 07 :
When you have the right setup, yeah. And that’s where… Kind of what we’re talking about, you should think of a shotgun as pick it up and go shoot it. You can really get into them and do some real cool stuff with shotguns if you spend the time and energy and research on it to set them up the right way. Yeah, for sure.
SPEAKER 05 :
Hey, get by and see them. It’s Bighorn Firearms, 2175 South Jasmine. When you go in, hey, make all the other guys jealous. Ask for Houston. Tell him you heard him on the radio, all right? And he’ll get you fixed up. He can go through some shotguns. If you’re looking at rifles, whatever, the rest of the crew there can help you out as well. But once again, when you go in, let them know you heard them here on Sportsman of Colorado, and we’d appreciate that as well. So, Ryan, thank you very much, sir. Thank you, Scott. Appreciate it. Glad you brought Houston in, and Houston will do this again. Yes, sir. You’re listening to Sportsman of Colorado. We’ve got to hit a quick break, and we’ll be back with more right after this.
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SPEAKER 09 :
This is AM560 KLZ, your home station.
SPEAKER 05 :
Welcome back to Sportsman of Colorado. Hey, thank you so much for being with us today. It is our final show of the year. And, man, I was just quickly thinking our first show was in January of 2013, the very first Saturday of January 2013. And as I look back now, I had no idea. You always hope for the best, but I had no idea that we would be saying, hey, we’re looking forward to 2025 with you at Sportsman of Colorado Radio. And we certainly appreciate all of our listeners and, you know, those who have supported us. I mean, these shows are not cheap, so to speak. So airtime cost and we could not do it without all of our sponsors. And we just appreciate them so much. And One of the guys that’s been very good to us is Tim Christopherson, shooting doors Buckley. And, you know, Tim, first of all, welcome to the show.
SPEAKER 12 :
Thanks, Scott.
SPEAKER 05 :
Happy to be here. Thanks for being with us to wrap up the year. But, you know, it’s so much fun when you have really good people. that run a good business and you’re trying to do the right thing by people, your employees, and, and that shines through on your shows too, and your longevity of your employees and all and your customers. But, um, I just want to say, you know, personal thank you and a, and a, uh, business. Thank you for your support for us because, uh, uh, we couldn’t do it without you, man.
SPEAKER 12 :
And we’re, we’re always happy to be here. And, uh, I’m looking forward to 2025 and see how we can work together some more.
SPEAKER 05 :
So when you think about your first year when you did shoot indoors to where you are now, I mean, do you look back and go, wow, how’d I get here in a good way?
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, for sure. I mean, my first year was 2020. We opened in July of 2020. So, you know, into our fifth year. But may have picked the worst time in history to start a business if you recall what that year was.
SPEAKER 05 :
We did the same thing with Haystack Health. You know, we started that in 2009, right after the 2008 collapse of things. Yeah, I mean, there’s never a real good time probably, but you just never know the obstacles you’re going to face.
SPEAKER 12 :
Absolutely. And it just felt like, you know, I blinked and here we are in our fifth year. You know, July will be five years for us. It’s quite an accomplishment considering the really rocky start that we had and almost not even getting off the ground with COVID. And, you know, I was built out and waiting for city approvals and that kind of thing. And, you know, it was like open the doors and there was just no customers. So we had to get creative those first few months. And then that first January of 21, it just felt like a switch flipped and customers found us. They were coming in and it really really saved us that having a good start.
SPEAKER 05 :
So did people have to wear masks to come in and shoot? Cause it cracked me up going into, I went to my bank, you know, the first time, you know, after the, all this hit and they’re like, must wear a mask. And I’m like, how ironic is that? What about coming in and shooting? Yeah.
SPEAKER 12 :
It was the same thing. We had the same regulations, which was hard for me to wrap my head around just because our range has 100% fresh air system. So being outdoors is the exact equivalent of being indoors in a shooting range when we’re running that air through at three, four miles an hour. You’re not rebreathing any of that air. You’re not, you know, rebreathing any of that, you know, what’s coming out of the firearms. So it’s really, it was hard for me to wrap my head around for the fact that masks were required indoors in this environment just for, you know, our air handling equipment and what we had in place. Right.
SPEAKER 05 :
Again, Shoot Indoors Buckley, a store that Tim’s mostly at, I guess, but you do have some other locations.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, we’ve got four locations in the metro area, and we’ve got the original location up in Broomfield off of Highway 36 and 120th. We’ve been around for 11 years up there, which is quite an accomplishment as well. Then we’ve got our Denver location right off the exit of 6th Avenue and I-25. And as of the beginning of this month, you can see our brand new 32-foot tall sign from the highway. So we’re harder to miss now than we were a month ago. And then the newest location of Shoot Indoors is right off of Central Park location.
SPEAKER 05 :
Is that right off of – that’s the one off 70, right?
SPEAKER 12 :
Yep, off of I-70.
SPEAKER 05 :
Off 70, right there, Central Park. Okay, right. I know where that is. It’s pretty close to Bass Pro.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yes, very close to Bass Pro. A few-minute drive. They’ve built a good partnership with Bass Pro as well. So they’re working well over there. They’re entering their second year now. So as you guys can tell, I spend the least amount of time there.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 12 :
But that’s independent owners. I’m just helping them out with the franchise. But great, great location. Great staff over there as well. That’s what you’ll find in common among all of our stores is our staff and our enthusiasm to help new shooters really get oriented with the range and really feel comfortable with firearms. Right.
SPEAKER 05 :
What do you think has attributed to your success? You know, there’s a lot of different ranges around. A lot of people try to have all the frills and bells and things. Do you think just kind of keeping it simple is one of the things?
SPEAKER 12 :
I think simplicity is one of our strongest points. We aren’t selling firearms, so there’s no pressure to come in and, you know, try something and buy it or look at something and buy it. Very low pressure when it comes to anything you’re doing at the range. We’re gonna help you get out there safely. We’re gonna help you operate the firearm safely. And even ensure that you’re washing up properly as you’re leaving to make, you know, for your safety after the range day as well. You want to get all that residue off your hands and make sure you’re leaving as clean as you came in. Sure.
SPEAKER 05 :
Don’t want to be going and catching a flight and going through TSA. Right.
SPEAKER 12 :
You know, funny story. My wife got hung up by that one time.
SPEAKER 05 :
Oh, really?
SPEAKER 12 :
When I was reloading one day. This is years ago. and took her to the airport, hugged goodbye, and she called me 30 minutes later. She basically got pulled aside and asked why she had explosive residue on her hands and clothing. Yeah, I got an earful on that one. It can happen, but, again, we ensure that you’re washing up properly. We’ll always send a receipt with you if you’re on your way to a flight, that type of thing, so you can show them, hey, this is why I’m not, you know, triggering your sensors or whatever.
SPEAKER 05 :
Exactly. Cool. Once again, Tim Christopherson is with us. It’s Shoot Indoors Buckley. And I’ll tell you what we’re going to do, and we normally don’t do this many, but celebrate Tim’s four years. Tell you what we’re going to do. And we’re going to make this where you can text with us, all right? First four folks. that will text 720-201-8585 again 720-201-8585 we’re going to give you a 25 gift card to shoot indoors buckley now there are several locations but the card is only good here at tim’s store the one off buckley and 225. so the first four people to shoot me a text send me your name and of course i’ll have your phone there and then i will get with you after the show And I tell you what, we’re going to open this up because our show does replay on Sunday at 8 in the morning, 8 at night, and Thursday morning at 9. So we’re going to take a chance here. We’re going to help some people out, get you over to shoot indoors Buckley. So the first four people, text 720-201-8585 when you hear this, and I will get with you, and we will get your gift card. So, Tim.
SPEAKER 12 :
try to get some new folks yeah absolutely and just want to reiterate that buckley location uh 225 in mississippi that’s where you’ll pick up those gift cards uh last winter’s uh somebody showed up at the denver location trying to get one they did and she called me and she goes if you remember i told you she goes i i do remember now so yeah so yeah let’s reiterate that and just make sure you’re not driving unnecessarily anywhere so we’ll take care of you
SPEAKER 05 :
Now, another thing, you offer some classes with CCW, and we’ve got some laws changing.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yes, CCW classes have been a hot topic here this last six months, per se, with some new law changes that take effect in July of 2025. So you’re going to want to get in sooner than later if you’re looking at obtaining that permit. Right now our curriculum is about four and a half, five hours of really good information. You do get range time with it. And starting July 1st, that class is gonna almost double in length, a requirement of eight hours by the state. A shooting portion with an accuracy requirement as well. And it’s just gonna increase price also. So you’re gonna see prices increase across the board on those CCW classes. So if you wanna save yourself some money and a little bit of time, I would encourage anybody interested to get out probably by March at the latest. that’s when I start rolling out the new curriculum along with the new certified instructors to ensure that you’ve got time to get that permit issued before those certificates expire in July. Right.
SPEAKER 05 :
And then renewals have to be sooner too, right? Yes.
SPEAKER 12 :
A couple of years. The new renewal requirements are every time you’re getting a renewal on your permit that you’ve got, they’re good for five years, you will be required to take a two-hour, what they call a refresher course. You can go over any new state laws in the last five years, as well as a shooting portion and a range portion as well.
SPEAKER 05 :
Now, you’ve got a few special groups you try to help out with some membership, and we’ll get into memberships, but what are some of your specials you offer some folks?
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, so the specials are offered on our daily rates. Any of you that’s current or former military, law enforcement, firefighter, EMT, just show your credentials, ask for that discount, and we’ll ensure you’re saving about $6 on your range fees. Also not paying our $10 new shooter processing fee either. So you save $16 on that first visit. And then the discount continues after that. So we try to take care of those that take care of us. Absolutely. And now let’s talk about some benefits of membership. Our membership has some very, very good incentives when it comes to signing up. We don’t offer discounts on memberships for anybody just because of our value already. But you’re going to get unlimited range time. You know, for $40 a month, you get unlimited range time seven days a week, along with 30% discount on targets, 20% discount on classes, and very steep ammo discounts. We’re taking it down to, we’re trying to compete with our big box stores, really, on ammo prices for members to make us their one-stop shop when they’re coming to the range. They don’t need to go anywhere else first. So we made it really cost-effective for them to come in, buy your ammo, buy your targets, and not spend any more money than you would anywhere else. Right.
SPEAKER 05 :
Tax hike next year, too.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, it’s coming in, what, I believe, April. Yeah. 6.5% tax hike on ammunition. So one more thing we’ll have to factor into our pricing, but you’ll be paying those prices everywhere starting, I believe it’s in April when that tax takes effect.
SPEAKER 05 :
And I tell you, hey, if you’re looking for a great place to kind of a, I don’t know, team building event, hey, maybe a bachelor party, bachelorette party, Tim, I see a lot of things on social media where people come to celebrate it.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yes, absolutely. We are well outfitted to help groups of any size, really. We’ve had… you know, groups of 5 or 10 people come in. We’ve had groups of 30 or 40 people come in. We definitely would ask that you reach out before bringing a group of that size just to allow for staffing, make sure we’ve got lanes open. But in Aurora, we were able to close off our shorter bay, which is 15 yards, and really turn a group loose in there. Five lanes, 15 yards, you can easily house 20 people in there for a private event. Anything larger than that, we would probably end up closing the range down or going outside of our business hours, but we have accommodated that in the past and are happy to do that in the future.
SPEAKER 05 :
Is there anything off-limits that you can’t shoot at Shoot Indoors?
SPEAKER 12 :
The one thing you can’t shoot, and supposedly you can, but I’m not willing to test this, would be .50 BMG. We do not allow .50 BMG, but any other rifle caliber and all… handgun calibers as well as shotguns with buckshot or slugs. Right.
SPEAKER 05 :
All right. Well, once again, the first four people that will text 720-201-8585. Just send me your name. I’ll get in touch with you after the show. We’re going to give a $25 gift card to the first four people. Now, this is our live show on Saturday. but we do replay twice on Sunday. So if you hear one of those times, we’re still going to give you one. And if you hear us on a Thursday from 9 to 10 a.m., we’re still going to give you one. So, hey, this is the time of giving, and Tim’s going to help us out with that. And so we really appreciate it. And, folks, if you’re looking for a great place to shoot, a great staff, and, Tim, 30 seconds here, but if somebody wants some kind of one-on-one time with maybe an instructor, like this is their first time to shoot, and they just don’t really know what they’re doing, but they want to start out with some help, is that available anywhere?
SPEAKER 12 :
Oh, absolutely. You’re going to get that inherently when you walk in. We’re going to ensure that safety is our number one priority. But if you do want some more one-on-one training, we’ve got instructors available for that. Generally $125 for a 90-minute session will be your first session, and then they’re $125 for 60 minutes after that. But we’ll definitely take care of you and get you out on there safely.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, congrats on your success, sir, and we look forward to 2025 with you, and we’ll get over and see you soon. Absolutely. 2024 was great, and 2025 is going to be better. All right. Sounds good. And once again, the gift cards are only good at the Shoot Indoors Buckley off of Mississippi and 225. So once again, remember that. But give us a text, 720-201-8585. I want to thank all of our guests, but really thank you for being with us not only today but throughout the year. And once again, we look forward to 2025 with all of our listeners and sponsors. So happy new year to everyone. And we will talk to you next year.
SPEAKER 14 :
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