Through lively conversation and pointed commentary, this episode of Rush to Reason brings into the spotlight the often-debated role of airport security administered by TSA. John Rush navigates through personal anecdotes and industry insights, questioning the validity and utility of screening protocols that vary across cities. Whether you’re a frequent flyer or an occasional traveler, this engaging episode offers thought-provoking ideas on improving security measures, ensuring convenience, and enhancing passenger experience.
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All right, happy Tuesday. Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Myself, Andy Pate. Charlie Grimes, of course, our engineer today. 97 degrees. Got a little bit warm out today. It is a little bit warm. Well, it didn’t feel 97 on the way in for some reason.
SPEAKER 04 :
Oh, it didn’t?
SPEAKER 16 :
When did you come in? One ish or so, but I don’t know. Maybe it’s gotten hotter since then. I don’t know. Didn’t feel that warm at all.
SPEAKER 04 :
It always feels hotter in the afternoon.
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Sun beats down, starts baking things up a little bit.
SPEAKER 04 :
Exactly, yeah.
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All right, yesterday’s possible question. What element has the lowest melting point of any element? You or Charlie know this answer? Charlie, did you know this one? Lowest melting point? Lowest melting point of all elements.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, yeah. Charlie says ice cream. Definitely not ice cream, Charlie. Sorry.
SPEAKER 16 :
Answer is helium. Negative 457 degrees Fahrenheit. That’s when it melts.
SPEAKER 04 :
Helium melts?
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At that. I was not aware of this. Okay. I was not either. So negative 457 degrees. Almost 458. Really close to 458. All right. Today, in the impossible question of the day, Facebook page, answer it there. What is the rarest blood type in America? Not worldwide, but in America. What is the rarest blood type? Thoughts?
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No idea.
SPEAKER 16 :
Any idea, Charlie? Nope. Charlie says, I used to know this. Actually, I think I would have gotten this one only because I know some folks with this blood type. Charlie says O negative. That’s actually the most common. Or no, O positive is the most common. I don’t know where O negative fits in, so… Charlie’s O positive. That is, Charlie says if you have an emergency, he’s here because it’s the most common.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, that’s good to know. Thanks, Charlie.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yes, thank you for that.
SPEAKER 04 :
Let’s just, you know, just to be safe, we should just keep Charlie hooked up to an IV line.
SPEAKER 16 :
Just have him walk around with it.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, yeah, just, you never know.
SPEAKER 16 :
We’re weird. Okay, go ahead. All right, today in other news. Yes. And my wife actually was able to give a little glimpse of this. Actually sent me a picture of it. The new TSA checkpoint is open at DIA. It’s on the east side. It’s a new security checkpoint, and the A Bridge, of course, connects into that, and so you can go through there. Because it’s on the upper level. It’s not down below.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 16 :
It’s on the upper level, which… The other one on the west side is as well.
SPEAKER 04 :
What’s new about it? They just added one, or is it new in some way?
SPEAKER 16 :
I want to say there’s, don’t quote me, 17 lanes. So it’s all brand new, all new technology. Even those that don’t have pre-check, it’s pretty slick and easy to go through. She said this morning, even though there was a lot of people there, given the fact there’s a whole other 17 lanes now open as an addition to what they had before, that there wasn’t hardly anybody in it.
SPEAKER 04 :
And they don’t have to check shoes anymore, right?
SPEAKER 16 :
I believe that is the case.
SPEAKER 04 :
Is there anything else you would drop out? Honestly, John, when I’ve gone through these, I think they did a pretty good job.
SPEAKER 16 :
I’ve had pre-check for so long that the shoe thing doesn’t even – I haven’t even had to take shoes off forever. So I honestly – yeah, I would say that shoes – and my biggest thing still on some of this is, okay, who came up with the – what is it, 3.4-ounce size? I mean, where did the .4 come from? Make it three ounces, make it four ounces, make it five ounces, make it six ounces. I mean, where did the 3.4 come from? What rocket science figured that one out?
SPEAKER 04 :
I would assume it has to do with some explosive that requires that amount.
SPEAKER 16 :
And 3.6 is just too much.
SPEAKER 04 :
I guess so. I don’t know, John. I know this is a shocker to you, but I’ve never carried explosives on planes.
SPEAKER 16 :
Me neither, so I have no idea where that 3.4 came from. What I do know, and we’ve talked about this a lot on air, and this will probably create some comments and phone calls, but to me, TSA in and of itself is nothing but one big, huge feel-good measure for certain passengers. At the end of the day, is it really, really stopping anyone from doing something nefarious? No is the answer. It’s a feel-good measure is all it is.
SPEAKER 04 :
I don’t know. Here’s my big concern about this, John. If you have nothing checking people in, once you’re on a plane, you’re a captive audience. True. And it is really tough. I wouldn’t want somebody nefarious bringing a weapon on a plane.
SPEAKER 16 :
No, I wouldn’t either.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay. But that doesn’t mean that we need this whole TSA experience. I’m not saying that because I’ve never agreed with it. It seems very intrusive, and it doesn’t seem very productive. I don’t know. But on the other hand, nothing.
SPEAKER 16 :
And they miss a ton of stuff anyways. That’s my point. They don’t catch. Every year they do an audit on TSA. This is true. And the amount of things that they miss that come through is astronomical, by the way.
SPEAKER 04 :
And why do they miss so much? Is it because of DEI hiring or is it incompetence in general? I’m sorry to even ask that, but that’s been a big deal. in a lot of areas? Or is it simply the overwhelming weight of just the masses of people that go through?
SPEAKER 16 :
I think a combination of everything you just said. And I’m sorry, if you work for TSA, I’m sure if you’re one of our listeners, you’re probably a very intellect, very smart individual that probably understands the things that we are even talking about. But Andy, I’ve met some TSA agents where they’re doing some screening and different things along those lines, and I’m thinking to myself, okay, if the hands of the world are now in your hands, if the security of this plane is now in your hands, we’re in deep doo-doo.
SPEAKER 1 :
Okay. Okay.
SPEAKER 16 :
All right. So I do think there are times where it may very well be a whole competency factor in the fact that, yes, they have to hire now. Not now, but in the past, the DEI thing has been huge in the government agencies.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, and I wasn’t saying that in any kind of a bigoted way. I just know that DEI hiring has become a real problem in airports, in airlines, and in a lot of these areas. And I just think it’s worrisome when you’re saying that these people are handling – I would want the best of the best of the best. That’s all I’m saying.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, and I think, you know, I’ve talked about this in the past. My feeling has always been that I think each airline should be in charge of their own security. And, again, I know this creates all sorts of other, you know, logistics and things along those lines, and you’d have to figure out all of that. And airports, of course, would have to be revamped and changed, although a lot of that was revamped and changed after 9-11. So my feeling is there needs to be competition in this end of things.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, this would make the airlines –
SPEAKER 16 :
Responsible.
SPEAKER 04 :
Responsible for the safety of their airlines, which right now they’re not.
SPEAKER 16 :
Not really.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right. So the responsibility is totally through. Yeah. I don’t know that that’s really working either. I do know this, that I get groped a lot. I don’t know why they see me as such a threat.
SPEAKER 16 :
You know, some do. You read different things, and some people seem to, every time they go through, have more of a problem than others. And I don’t want to say anything about my experiences because about the time I do, I’ll have some bad experience the next time. So I don’t want to jinx myself. So all in all, I usually get along pretty well.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, it hasn’t been bad at all. I mean, they’ve always been nice, and it’s been pretty quick. Not a problem. I haven’t had any problems with them. It’s just that I get pulled aside a lot. And I know it’s random. I get that. I’ve just had bad luck. But it’s kind of funny. I mean, do you believe that they should be… you know, targeting various groups. Yes. Muslims. Absolutely. Profiling. Absolutely.
SPEAKER 16 :
They should be doing. Absolutely.
SPEAKER 1 :
1000%.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yes. Yes. Most definitely. They should profile. So Democrats. That would be high on the list. Okay. Well, and, And my other issue, and I’m sure we’ll get comments on this, and we’ll take a break and come back, so I know we’ll carry on. But my biggest issue is the inconsistency that happens at most TSA things. In other words, you may go through Denver and be carrying the exact same piece of luggage that you go to Houston, that you go to L.A., that you get my drift. Right. And each time you go through, you may get a totally different experience out of the particular agents that are working. Running that particular bag. That’s my biggest issues. I don’t think it’s consistent as it should be. And sometimes I’ll come back and tell you that’s the technology they’re using or that piece of equipment or whatever. And I disagree. I think a lot of it is just certain airports training of and so on that builds the consistency. That’s my opinion. John and Cheyenne, hang tight. Let’s do this. Give you plenty of time this way. Dr. Scott coming up next. He’s going to be your host tomorrow, by the way. I’m taking a day off tomorrow to handle some affairs for my folks, which you guys all know kind of about all of that, and taking the day off. So Dr. Scott agreed to fill in. He’s going to handle things for you tomorrow. So three hours of health and wellness. He’s got a lot of stuff to talk about, so make sure you call in tomorrow with any questions. In the meantime, his direct line, 303-663-6990.
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God. Country. Reason. Now back to John Rush.
SPEAKER 16 :
And we are back. Rush to Reason. John and Cheyenne, go ahead. John, it’s not even the… It’s supposed to be hot. Yes. Correct.
SPEAKER 17 :
But, no, go back. Remember, TSA was a knee-jerk reaction in 9-11 where all of a sudden the government had to take over.
SPEAKER 16 :
That’s right.
SPEAKER 17 :
And if you want to see the best-run security in the U.S., go to San Francisco, where they never took the TSA on, and they still do it privately, operated by the airlines. I didn’t know that.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, also, John, also they turn their city into a place no one wants to visit. That keeps them pretty safe, too.
SPEAKER 17 :
Absolutely, though. Actually, though, Andy, a lot of flights to the Pacific Rim go through San Francisco. So it is a busy airport. It’s not as busy as it used to be, but it still is a busy airport. United has a big hub there.
SPEAKER 16 :
Right, right, right.
SPEAKER 17 :
So they got it right, and it was just like you said, John. It was a knee-jerk reaction to 9-11, and there’s no standards there.
SPEAKER 16 :
No, that’s – and you fly a lot, John, and I don’t fly as much as a lot of guys listening that are doing flights for business and things like that. But I’m guessing anybody that flies any trips at all in a year’s time – in other words, if you do more than a couple of trips a year, you’re going to realize just how inconsistent – It really is. And in that, I think for me, John, that’s the part that I complain the most about is it’s like, OK, one time you go, you’ve got the exact same bag, exact same stuff. Nothing’s changed. As you know, I travel with an actual travel backpack that’s already pre-packed, ready to go. All I do is take my laptop out of one bag. I put it in that bag and off we go. So it’s the exact same stuff every single time I go. Nothing inside of it changes. And yet one time it gets scanned, another time it doesn’t. It’s just so inconsistent. Yeah.
SPEAKER 17 :
Oh, my wife laughs all the time. She goes through known crew, but every now and then they’ll say, oh, you got random, you got to go over to TSA Pre and whatever. But it seems like she says every time she goes through LAX, she gets random. I don’t know why. And I don’t know how they figure it or anything. It happens to her at other airports, Denver, whatever. But she said it seems like every time at LAX I’m always the one that gets picked. So it’s a never-no. But, Andy, you were saying, remember, before they started building the east side, they closed the north security. So there hasn’t been a north security.
SPEAKER 16 :
at uh dia for a long time right or the bridge security closed too that closed a while back also that’s right so they just needed another one open back up that’s all well the plan all along was to put this one in but to your point john they had to close certain things to get the construction completed and so on and now it is and i last time i flew out of uh denver i went through west uh tsa pre holy smokes what a smooth operation yeah it is um
SPEAKER 17 :
And then they’re going to close the south one off, too, at some point, which is going to make everybody who comes in from the hotel end of the airport very annoyed.
SPEAKER 16 :
Oh, yeah. Are they planning on replacing that one, or what’s the plan there, John? I have not looked, so I don’t know the master plan.
SPEAKER 17 :
I have not heard that, but I know my wife told me they just told her that the known crew on the south is going away at the end of the month. So you got to go to a different one. So I guess they’ll have them on the east and west sides now. But, you know, it’s just same thing. Anybody who are, you know, known crew can go through without having. Right. But I think the biggest thing we should do is what the Israelis do. Profile people getting on the plane, booking tickets before so you can tell who’s a troublemaker and who’s not.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah. They have ways of doing that for all of you that are listening. Last minute changes and things along those lines. And there’s known traveler lists and things along those lines. And, John, the easiest way to avoid all of that is you have the ability to – either get, you know, pre-check or clear, and they do a background check and so on. So they’re checking more of what you are as a flyer versus, you know, Joe Schmoe, who just booked a ticket. And frankly, I think that’s okay. If you’re a known traveler or you’re a business guy, you travel all the time, you know, you can prove through history that you’re not a problem. Well, then no offense. Why should you get the same scrutiny as a guy that just flew for the first time?
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, and also, if I may… I think that this puts a lot of the onus on each community to look within their community and say, cut it out. What I mean is this. You’re profiling based on numbers, right? Each community that has more incidents, more crime, more whatever. And so if a community, let’s say the community is middle-aged white men, okay, and we have the highest crime rate. And let’s say, or middle-aged white Christian church evangelical men. Okay, fine. And we get profiled. And so we get pulled over all the time. Should we really be complaining about that? Or shouldn’t we look at the rest of the people in our demographic and say, cut it out, shape up.
SPEAKER 16 :
Stop the nonsense.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, exactly. But the other thing I was laughing about while you were saying that is when the 85 year old grandmother gets pulled out and it’s always, there’s always one on YouTube for additional screening for whatever reason. I’m like, really? That’s who you want to pull out.
SPEAKER 16 :
And to me, that’s another one where those guys need the power to say, yeah, Mr. Computer, give me another one because, yeah, we’re not doing this one. We’re going to move right along because we’re not going to hold up the entire line for this.
SPEAKER 04 :
It’s a waste of the numbers. Correct.
SPEAKER 16 :
And, John, that’s my biggest issue with TSA in general, and if you’re somebody that works for TSA, you probably would understand this. They have no freedom to make judgment calls on their own without bringing some higher up in to actually then forego whatever it is they’re needing to do. To me, that’s the biggest nonsense of all.
SPEAKER 17 :
Oh, yeah. And the other thing I’m going to say, and I pay for it, is the $85 every five years for TSA Pre is the best. If you fly more than once or twice a year, it is so worth it just to not deal with the craziness of the regular line. You know, take your stuff out, do all that stuff. I mean, I just walk up, I know I don’t have anything, drop my backpack down. I have found a beautiful… hiking belt with a plastic buckle that I use when I’m traveling. So I don’t even have to take my belt off the belt buckle.
SPEAKER 16 :
Nice.
SPEAKER 17 :
And, you know, I think it was 20 bucks on Amazon.
SPEAKER 16 :
Great idea.
SPEAKER 17 :
But it’s little things like that that get you cruising right through the line, too. That’s right. When you’re just, you can walk up, drop your backpack, or if you’re carrying a roller board, put it up on, go. And the other thing I always do on the bus coming over from the parking area is is I just empty my pockets out into my backpack. I do the same.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, I do. Everything I have in a particular pocket in my backpack, everything goes in out of my pants pockets once I’m back out and on the train or wherever, I’ll put everything back in. But yeah, I just, I don’t worry about it. It’s just all in there. It’s good.
SPEAKER 17 :
The only thing I miss about Denver is when they moved American from A back to C. Oh. Because it was so much easier. Not going in, not a big deal.
SPEAKER 16 :
Coming back.
SPEAKER 17 :
When you’re leaving, just being able to go over the bridge coming out.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yep, much faster.
SPEAKER 17 :
Without having to deal with the train.
SPEAKER 16 :
Agree. Yeah. Agree.
SPEAKER 17 :
John, you guys have a great day.
SPEAKER 16 :
Always great, John. Appreciate you very much. And, yeah, that’s ultimately I think John’s with me. The ultimate complaint is there’s just like any other government agency, Andy, it’s inconsistent. For example, you can bring this down to the state level. You can go to DMV one day, talk to one clerk with one particular issue you might have, get one complete answer, go back a week later and get a completely different answer from somebody else. There’s just such lack of consistency among government workers, in my opinion. And I don’t know whether that’s incompetency, lack of care. You’re not really paying attention to what the rules are. You’re making up your own as you go. I don’t know, Andy. I don’t know why that inconsistency in the government sector is as bad as it is.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, I mean, what you’re saying is they need to standardize much more. on their tactics and how they do things, their methods. I don’t know, John.
SPEAKER 16 :
And really quick, maybe, Andy, they have. Maybe they have. And the issue is that individual themselves is going to just go rogue and do whatever they feel like doing, because at times I think sometimes they get on a power trip and they come up with their own rules that, frankly, aren’t the rules that they’re supposed to be following. That’s my thought sometimes.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, yeah, a government worker, because let’s face it, they are not competing. Okay, this is not… Firing one’s tough. It is almost impossible to fire one. And so when you’re in that position, after a while, you can simply get full of yourself and you can get power.
SPEAKER 16 :
And you can kind of make up your own rules as you go, Andy. Right.
SPEAKER 04 :
Now, I’ll be honest. The last few times I’ve been to the DMV in Aurora, they’ve been nice as can be.
SPEAKER 16 :
Same. I can’t argue that one.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, they’ve been terrific.
SPEAKER 1 :
100%.
SPEAKER 04 :
You’re right on that. I’ve had no problems at all. But I’m just saying hypothetically, let’s say one wants to get full of themselves. Guess what? They can’t.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, and by the way, there’s nothing you can do about it. We could talk for an entire show on this because you could take this thing all the way down to police officers and so on. Sure. In other words, you know, where is the consistency? One officer may look at something one way and another officer might look at something completely another way. Where is the consistency at the end of the day?
SPEAKER 04 :
John, my wife, and I can say this now. It’s been a few years. She was in a car accident. She was not at fault. She got hit, okay? And she was going into the intersection. The other person came and churned right into her, all right? And my wife had the right of way. It was clear. Clear as day. And you could tell with where the lights were. You could tell with where the lines were. Everything was obvious. The cop comes in, power trips, and is trying to blame my wife. And first of all, all he’s supposed to do is take in statements.
SPEAKER 16 :
Take notes, that’s right.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, take in statements. But he is insisting that, he insisted that this other person came in from another direction. Why? I don’t know. They were coming at each other, and the other person turned in the left lane right at Corey. And this cop insisted on it and insisted on it, and Corey and I, well, I came in after a while. I’m just like, well, how could that even be? And it turned out he was absolutely wrong. Do we get an apology? No. Of course not. It was ludicrous. And he just about had my wife in tears. She thought she, she, because this is a cop, John, they are all powerful. Okay. And when they go and testify, you’re in trouble. And this person, I mean, she was thinking, oh my gosh, I just got hit and I’m going to get blamed for this.
SPEAKER 16 :
That’s my whole point, Andy. I feel like in and I realize the same can happen in the private sector. You can get one store clerk that, you know, wants to do their own store policy versus what the actual policy is. So I understand it can happen in all lines of work. But it seems to me and maybe I’m just too critical, but it seems to me that the inconsistency is way more on the governmental side, state, local, federal, as it is in the private sector, Andy.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, I think it comes down to what you were saying. In a way, it’s like profs in a college. They have tenure. You know, it’s just so hard to fire them, right? And in the free market, you can fire them at least easier.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, and in the free market, they’re competing for those customers. To your point, government is not. That customer is built in. In the free market, you have to compete for customers. So if you’ve got a clerk that’s all of a sudden making up their own return policies in the store.
SPEAKER 04 :
And upsetting. customers.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, and upsetting customers. And it doesn’t go along with what’s supposed to be happening. Well, that store clerk is liable to not have their job in the not too distant future, because all it’s going to take is one or two people complaining that, hey, you know, you’re not abiding by what your store policy is on whatever it is, a return or whatever. And at the end of the day, that clerk’s not going to have a job, Andy.
SPEAKER 04 :
See, and there’s another reason you avoid DEI hiring policies. Why? Because it’s that much harder to fire. Somebody.
SPEAKER 16 :
You’re right, Andy.
SPEAKER 04 :
Because, you know, you’re setting yourself up for lawsuit, lawsuit, lawsuit. This is why we were saying on an earlier show, what was it? I don’t know, last year, I think, when you and I were just saying, just honestly, if you hire straight white guys, you can fire them for anything. And that’s the beauty of it.
SPEAKER 16 :
You’re right.
SPEAKER 04 :
And I hate to say that because I don’t care.
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SPEAKER 04 :
And welcome back to Rush to Reason. Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. John Rush together with Andy Page. John, I want to talk a little bit about… Fantastic Four. Sure. Okay, this came out two weeks ago. Right. And it’s in its second weekend it just had. And the reason I want to talk about this is it’s actually a huge story in how it dropped off. Now, in its first weekend, it did average. It did pretty well. Okay, 118 million domestic. I don’t want to talk about foreign numbers. Those are kind of all over the map. But 118 domestic, which is under what they had hoped for, but it came in just a little below projections. Not that big of a deal, right? Well, the big question was, would it hold up as well as Superman? And Superman came in just about that range, but it only dropped in week two by 53%, which is very good. That’s a very strong hold, right? Because with these superhero movies, most people want to pile in the first week. They’ve been looking forward to it for six months. They want to see the movie. Well, Fantastic Four, first steps, they were looking at first, they were saying this could drop as much as 60%. Then after Friday night, they were saying maybe 62%. And into Saturday, and I was watching this the whole week, and they said, my gosh, it could hit 65%. It wound up at 67% drop. Okay, that’s literally two-thirds drop in ticket sales just from week one to week two. Now, the reason this is a big deal is because, well, first of all, it’s not nearly as good as Superman, right? And Superman came out two weeks earlier. And also, it had no strong movies, nothing in the same genre in week two. Fantastic Four didn’t have to deal with another superhero movie, another action movie, nothing like that. It had Naked Gun, which didn’t do very well, by the way, and The Bad Guys 2, which just did not very well either. So you had two quiet movies, so you would think it would hold pretty well. Here’s the thing. It’s not because it’s a bad movie. Okay, Rotten Tomatoes gave Fantastic Four First Steps 86%. And the crowds who went to it, the audience score was even better, 92%. Now, of course, a lot of that, we all know people go to movies they want to see, so those audience scores are usually a little higher, but at least you know people weren’t coming out of there angry. They went in, they expected to see a movie that was pretty good, and they enjoyed it, and they came out and they enjoyed it. And one other thing, you would say, well, what, did it go all woke? Nope. The movie wasn’t woke at all. So this is why it’s so interesting to see. This thing had a worse second week drop-off than The Eternals. OK, I mean, the worst ever was the Marvels. OK, that was like a 73 percent, 74 percent drop off from week one to week two. It was absolutely unimaginable. It was so bad. But this thing dropped off. And another thing that was kind of surprising is it didn’t have a huge week one. I mean, if it had a 200 million dollar week one because it was a holiday weekend, then the next week, of course, you would expect a bigger drop off. Well, there was nothing like that. So a lot of people are buzzing right now about why did it drop off so big? And I think the answer is very simple. The actors in this have simply infuriated half the country with the things they’ve been saying. And ordinarily, the actor doesn’t become the story. But remember, Rachel Zegler with Snow White, she became the story. It wasn’t even about the movie. The movie wasn’t terrible. It wasn’t great. It was just an average, you know, just a movie. It was okay. But she destroyed it, and, of course, Snow White went on to lose a ton of money. Now, when you look at this movie, Fantastic Four, people look at how much it costs to be made, but they’re not looking at, like you and I always say, look at all the costs that go into it. It needs to clear $600 million. It’s not going to make it. It may not make $500 million. I think it will. I think it will be in the low fives. But this is going to be the third loser of the year for Marvel. The third big losing movie of the year for Marvel. They’re in trouble. And it is all because of these actors who won’t shut up. Obviously, we know that the star, he wouldn’t shut up. But also the guy who played the thing, he wouldn’t shut up. And he started saying about fascists need to be thrown into space and just stuff like this. John, when are these people going to learn quit mouthing off at your audience? That’s all you got to do. All you got to do is shut up.
SPEAKER 16 :
Good question, Andy. You would think by now they would have, but the problem is, as we say a lot, liberalism is a mental illness. They get this idea in their mind that they’re right no matter what and everybody else is wrong and it doesn’t matter. This is going to be a success period. This will have no effect upon my movie. I’m going to say what I want because you know what? Those dirty birds on the right, those guys, those warmongers, those right-wing Christians, all these guys that are on the right, it’s my duty to make sure that I call them out. And then when their movie ends, I guess, Andy, they’ll blame it on something else. Well, it’s global warming. It was a hot summer, and nobody wanted to go out to the movie theater, where, by the way, it’s nice and cool and air-conditioned. I don’t know what excuse I’ll have, Andy. Right, right. It beats the heck out of me.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, I mean, well, they have no excuse. The simple fact is this. Pedro Pascal and Iban Mas Bakrak, he plays the thing, because he made some rotten comments, too. And the cast just didn’t shut up. They didn’t shut up. Stupid. Yeah, you contrast this with Sidney Sweeney.
SPEAKER 16 :
Who’s the opposite of.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, obviously a beautiful young girl. She does this ad campaign with the jeans and it sells like hotcakes. And then it comes out supposedly that she is, I mean, at least somebody with her name. And her age is a Republican in Florida.
SPEAKER 16 :
It appears to be her. For all of you listening, is she? Is she not? Here’s the thing. She hasn’t said either way. No. Which, to her credit, she’s just being silent, smiling all the way to the bank, cashing her check. And enjoying the fame that she now has. Now, I will also say this, that she’s also been in a few videos where she’s on the shooting range and she’s actually pretty good shot with a pistol and she’s done a few other things outside of that. So, you know, where does she stand politically? We don’t know. By the way, good for her. That’s the way it should be.
SPEAKER 04 :
Oh, yeah. I mean, she’s like the female version of Tom Cruise, right? Out there shooting on the range, just having fun. She goes home to her dog, who she loves, and she also does videos that she’s working on her car, and yet she’s a supermodel. And she’s just every guy’s dream girl, right?
SPEAKER 16 :
And again, at the end of the day, again, for those of you that are on the right, be careful. We don’t know exactly where she stands politically speaking, but I think it’s safe to say because she isn’t means she’s not really jumping on one side or the other. She’s just enjoying this all the way to the bank, which is what the rest of these stars should be doing as well.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, and I hope she continues doing it. Look, I believe that she’s been a gay rights activist, and I believe she’s pro-choice. I don’t believe that this is some conservative MAGA-style Republican at all, if she’s even a Republican, but I do know this. Donald Trump comes out, and of course he says, oh, she’s a Republican. And he says, then I think it’s a great ad. I think it’s great. And he puts out a post on it, and everybody has a lot of fun with it. So Sidney Sweeney is caught up in a firestorm. Right. The actors who are at the head of Fantastic Four First Steps caught up in a firestorm. Difference being they really caused theirs.
SPEAKER 16 :
I mean, she’s an ad where you she’s the byproduct of.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah. You say jeans versus jeans. I get that. But, you know, nobody really cares. The whole Nazi thing that just came from the left. It wasn’t anything. Here’s the big difference. She shut up. They didn’t. Her way worked, and stock prices are going through the roof. Their way produced a 67% drop-off in a movie that all the fans who went to it and their critics said is a very good movie.
SPEAKER 16 :
Which to the point of what Andy said about Sydney, you’ve now got Dunkin’ Donuts that jumped on the bandwagon basically with their own, you know, gene type ad. And they’re just doubling down thinking, okay, well, if American Eagle can have a huge bump in stock, why can’t we?
SPEAKER 04 :
It’s fun.
SPEAKER 16 :
I love it.
SPEAKER 04 :
They’re having fun. Why not jump on the train? Have some fun with it.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, and knowing that, you know what? There’s one side of the aisle that seems to pay their bills better than the other side. So let’s jump on that side of the bandwagon for a change.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 16 :
Am I right? Yeah. What’s wrong with selling to the people who have jobs? And they’re actually going to buy your product. Right. I saw some last night.
SPEAKER 04 :
And by the way, once again, who’s Fantastic Four? Who are these people trying to offend?
SPEAKER 16 :
That side. Yeah, the side that actually has cash. Right. So last night I was watching a few videos where there were some men on the street asking, you know, different people in different, I don’t know where these people are at, a bunch of loony lefties that were at some gathering. And so people were at, you know, interviewers were asking them, you know, what do you think about the American Eagle, you know, the Cindy Sweeney, Jean Adness, that and the other. And I mean all of these lefties, most of them, of course, women. just all appalled that, you know, somebody would actually say anything along those lines. That’s nothing but total racism. And this is all about Nazism and, you know, the blue hair or the, sorry, the blue eye, blonde hair, you know, this, that, and the other. And I’m just thinking to myself, boy, you people can read anything into anything, can’t you?
SPEAKER 1 :
I know.
SPEAKER 16 :
I mean, you’re reading stuff into this that isn’t even remotely the case. You’re just, I’m sorry, I’ll just have to say this. Of all of the women that were being interviewed, All I can think of in the back of my mind is, yeah, you wish you looked like that.
SPEAKER 04 :
Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER 16 :
Because you don’t.
SPEAKER 04 :
Sidney Sweeney, and I’ve been saying this because I’m a movie critic. Sidney Sweeney has been the hottest sex symbol in Hollywood now for about a year and a half. She’s been the thing. In fact, I guarantee you they paid a lot to get her to do these ads. And it’s like, guys, you know, why can’t you just have fun with that? Why do you have to make it political? You know what all these lefties should have said? Good for her.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, because here’s what here’s what they’re doing. And this is what they don’t even realize. They’ve done it to, you know, the likes of, you know, Elon Musk and Tulsi Gabbard and others. What’s going to happen? This is my prediction. I don’t have a crystal ball, but if they continue continue down the path that they are. And they continue even some of these man on the street interviews. And you see some of the things that I was watching last night, because, by the way, all that’s going to get back to Sidney at some point, whether she’s wanting to watch this or not, that’s going to continue to come back to her. And the reality is what they’re going to do is even if she’s not a hardcore conservative right now, they will force her into that before it’s all said and done. That’s how stupid they are.
SPEAKER 04 :
They could drive her further into the right.
SPEAKER 16 :
I most likely will.
SPEAKER 04 :
Andy, you know, one thing I can tell you about Sydney Sweeney and this, I did know is she is very, very hard working. Okay. Right now she’s been training hard because she’s going to be doing a boxing movie. All right. And she she’s already a health nut. She’s already a fitness nut. OK, so she’s already into it. And of course, why wouldn’t she be? Right. You know, she probably relates a little to Trump because his wife was a supermodel. I mean, that’s kind of funny. But this is an extremely hardworking young actress who was seen as just a sex symbol and wants to be taken seriously as an actress. So she is just beating herself to death trying to become this great actress. Let me tell you something, John, really hardworking people over time come to resent the left.
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Now back to Rush to Reason on KLZ 560.
SPEAKER 16 :
All right, we are back. Speaking of the loony left, they’re going to throw a temper tantrum over this, and that is that Coloradans soon won’t be able to use their SNAP benefits. to purchase soda. The Department of Agriculture on Monday approved a waiver from Colorado seeking to exempt soda and sugary beverages from SNAP beginning 2006. So, shoppers in Colorado who use the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, otherwise known as says SNAP will soon be barred from using their benefit to buy certain junk foods. The U.S. Department of Agriculture on Monday approved a waiver from Colorado seeking to exempt soda and sugary beverages from SNAP beginning in 2026. Jared Polis said in a statement that the waiver marks a big step towards improving the health of Coloradans and reducing obesity rates, diabetes, and tooth decay, which, okay, for all of you when I said the left is going to throw a fit, yes, I realize Governor Polis initiated this or his – His office initiated this because he’s going to say this is something that will help Coloradans improve their health. Keep in mind, Jared Polis ultimately wants to run for president. But you’re still going to hear the left throw a fit about this because they will say this is discrimination. There’s no reason why people on Snap shouldn’t be able to buy the same thing everybody else should buy. On and on we go.
SPEAKER 04 :
Am I correct, Andy? If you want to buy the same things everybody else can buy, then make your money.
SPEAKER 16 :
I agree with you.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay, because those other people out there, they’re doing it with their own money. You’re doing it with their own money. Okay, see the difference there? They’re doing it with their own money. You’re doing it with their own money. When you want to buy whatever you want to buy, use your own money. And maybe you need to make more money.
SPEAKER 16 :
And to prove my point, folks, this is typically something you would see in a more red state because the other waivers were approved for, get this, West Virginia, Florida, Louisiana, Oklahoma, and Texas. So why in the world is Colorado in the midst of this? Again, because Governor Polis ultimately wants to run for president. This has nothing to do with Coloradans. Trust me in that, folks. Nothing to do with Coloradans.
SPEAKER 04 :
Oh, yeah. Yeah, Polis has been trying to play it toward the center now for the last several years.
SPEAKER 16 :
And what he’ll do on the campaign trail is talk about how he made Coloradans healthier again by doing things along these lines. That’s what the campaign slogan will be at some point. So trust me, he’s going down this path. This has nothing to do with somebody being healthy or not, but his own party, I guarantee you, and he has to be upset over this because the reality is they’re going to come back and say, this isn’t fair. Right.
SPEAKER 04 :
Of course it’s not fair. Why should it be fair? Actually, it is fair. You know what I mean. I mean, it’s fair because you didn’t make the money. But that’s what they’re going to say. You shouldn’t be able to spend other people’s money on fun stuff.
SPEAKER 16 :
On crap.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, yeah, but seriously, do you need soda to live?
SPEAKER 16 :
No, you don’t.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 16 :
In fact, you’re better off without it.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right. Obviously. So, John, should you be able to spend other people’s money on ice cream, on soda, on things that are happy, fun things?
SPEAKER 16 :
No. No, you shouldn’t be.
SPEAKER 04 :
No, it’s other people’s money, okay? If you’re going to use other people’s money, then it’s got to be on necessities. I agree. Is that fair?
SPEAKER 16 :
I agree with you 100%. In fact, I would go even steps further. Okay. I would tell you that if you’re on Snap, you can’t buy anything other than hamburger. You’re not buying any steak, for example.
SPEAKER 04 :
I agree.
SPEAKER 16 :
If you’re going to buy – we can go down and pick even other products. In fact, if you’re going to go down the cereal aisle, you’re going to buy the lowest-priced cereal that’s in the aisle, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. I mean, I would go down the list and say, listen, you’re going to be on the bare bones, beans and rice – You know, in other words, we’re going to make this difficult. So you want to go get a job. Now, I know before any of you come back at me and get all critical, I get that some people can have a job and still be on snap. But I explained some of that yesterday in regards to hours that you can work and the way you can find other jobs and different things and so on. So don’t go down that path with me because it’s not going to work, folks.
SPEAKER 04 :
No.
SPEAKER 16 :
You’re talking to a guy that legitimately at one point in time could have pulled out the bankruptcy card. I could have been on snap. I could have done a lot of things because of a time in my life where it wasn’t really that good, Andy. But my way of getting out of that was you work harder.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay. Well, John, how about this? I’m going to let you… I’m going to put you in the position of having to be really mean. What about young mothers? Because they’ll say, look, I got a kid or I got a couple of kids and they either take a dramatic amount of time or I have to have them watched babysitting, which costs a dramatic amount of money. I understand that. Therefore, I don’t have the kind of time that John Rush has.
SPEAKER 16 :
I gave examples yesterday afternoon in the 5 o’clock hour as to how you can find jobs you could do at home, never leaving, never having to leave the kids alone and still get things done and make money at the end of the day. So that is an excuse is all that is.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, and I’m going to – now let me be hard. I’ve never liked that excuse because let’s say – forget about working at home. Let’s say you’re doing like I’ve done at a theater or a casino. The young mothers, a lot of the time – wound up getting all kinds of breaks and bennies that other people didn’t, and it made it harder on the team, and so that they would have to get this shift or that shift to align with their kid’s shift, and therefore somebody else wound up working those other harder shifts. I don’t think it’s fair. Look, they didn’t have your kids. So why should the staff have to take care of your kids? Okay, now we’re looking at these government benefits like SNAP. The taxpayers didn’t have your kids.
SPEAKER 16 :
No.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay, so you’re saying that you can’t work extra hours because of your kids, but you had your kids. You chose to have your kids. Okay.
SPEAKER 16 :
I’m going to say something else that’s harsh.
SPEAKER 04 :
I know that sounds harsh.
SPEAKER 16 :
This isn’t in every circumstance. I understand that. But you see videos on this, and there are certain individuals that will decide to have more kids because their benefits increase by the more they have.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 16 :
And that happens.
SPEAKER 04 :
I think it’s disgusting. I think it should be capped.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, because what you’re really doing is having kids, not because you want to have kids and you love them, but it’s because you’re putting a dollar value on each one of them.
SPEAKER 04 :
Right.
SPEAKER 16 :
Which is the worst thing you could ever do, in my opinion, in having kids.
SPEAKER 04 :
I just don’t think society, look, and we disagree a little bit on this. I know we do because I don’t even like the write-off for kids. I’ve never had kids. I don’t know why I have to pay more so other people can have kids. You believe, well, yeah, but our society needs to have more children, not fewer. And so we have that disagreement. I get that, okay? But I think we can agree that they need to cap it at two or three. And after that, I think it’s on your dime. OK, because it gets crazy after a while.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, yeah. And I don’t I don’t know.
SPEAKER 04 :
Why are you charging it to the tax? I don’t know if I can disagree with your personal.
SPEAKER 16 :
I do think, though, that the you know, the problem we’ve had for years and years is people have had smaller families. Nobody has three, four or five kids anymore. And that’s really showing up in our population. It is that we have in our in our declining birth rate. So we’ve got to do something which Trump is doing, even with his. You know, education fund and the Trump fund and things like that, trying to get people incentivized to actually have kids. And a lot of that, by the way, Andy, that they’re not having kids. It’s not from our side, by the way. Our side has figured out how you can still have kids, how you can support them, how you can not be on snap and all these other things. It’s the other side. that hasn’t figured out how to do this. And by the way, the other side has gotten to the point to where they don’t want kids at all. In a lot of cases, if you’re a transgender or you’re a gay couple or you’re a lesbian couple, you’re most likely not having kids. I mean, I get it. Some kids can have some of those couples can have kids through surrogates and so on. But typically that doesn’t happen.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, I think also white liberal women, which has become, by the way, their most reliable voting block. OK, they don’t have a lot of kids.
SPEAKER 16 :
If any, in some cases, Andy. Right. No, you’re exactly right. So this is a deep topic. Maybe one of these days we’ll come back and touch on this more because the other thing that’s starting to happen, I’ve seen a couple of videos on this, and this is the way these algorithms work. Because when you see one video, then you’ll start getting populated with more and more. And there’s a big trend right now. Before we go to break, I’ll say this. And, again, this is something we can come back and talk about at some point in time, Andy. But there’s a big trend now to where there’s a lot of women. that are getting into their 20s and 30s. Maybe they had a marriage that didn’t do so well, so they’ve got two or three kids from that marriage, and they’re realizing that, oh, man, this hatred of men, this is starting to not pan out very well for me because I’m not doing very well in the dating scene now either because I’m now a single mom with two or three kids, and I’m not very wanted in the dating scene like I once was. And my hatred for men and what I used to spew out isn’t turning out so well today because now I’m alone. Might want to like guys a little more. You might want to change your thought process there. Yeah, again, that’s another deep topic we could come back at a future show and really cover because that’s becoming a bigger and bigger trend right now.
SPEAKER 04 :
Actually, I wouldn’t mind talking a little about that now or two.
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All right, closing out this first hour, and we will come back and talk about a few more of these things, because essentially what’s happening with the left, and it’s been happening for a while now, and it’s finally, I think, coming to a head. And this is this whole, you know, they’re woke, they’re this, they’re that. The problem is that doesn’t work. And it goes against all of what common sense tells you when it comes to family values and having kids and some of the things that Andy and I just got done talking about and just the hatred towards men in general. This is now coming back to roost for them. They lost the last election. I said this during that time when we were leading up to the election that they’re losing the war. when it comes to men, and they literally lost the last election because of their hatred for men, especially middle-aged white men. And we’ll talk more about this in an hour or two. Don’t go anywhere. Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
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