John Rush dives deep into the world of AI-driven home remodeling solutions with expert John Grishpole from Great Builds. In this insightful discussion, they explore the roadblocks homeowners face when choosing contractors and how innovations like Bid Compare AI are overcoming these hurdles. Grishpole elaborates on the simple, yet effective application of AI in comparing contractor bids and highlights the potential expansion into other domains. Whether you’re dealing with home renovations or considering a new car purchase, this episode offers advice on making informed decisions, ensuring that listeners are well-equipped to handle industry jargon and avoid hidden pitfalls.
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And we are back. And Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560, hour number two. Andy Pate, of course, with me. And this is a segment that I will most likely replay on our Saturday program, Fix It Radio. That’s our Around the House program. But I felt like this particular segment would be fitting to everybody, even on our daytime program. John Grishpole joining us now. John, welcome. How are you?
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I’m doing well. Thanks for having me.
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No, I appreciate it. You are with Great Builds, and you guys have a new free AI-powered tool that helps people compare bids when it comes to having things done around the house. Talk about it.
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That’s exactly it. I’ve been in the industry. My company, Great Builds, matches homeowners with contractors. In my time, when we started the business, we thought that the most important thing was just vetting contractors. We fully focused on finding the best of the best, thoroughly evaluating, speaking with references, doing background checks. all the important stuff to see if a contractor is good or not. But it turns out there’s one other major, major issue, and it’s that the average homeowner doesn’t know how to read a bid. They don’t know how to interact with contractors. So time and time again, I get clients come in to me and they say, hey, look, I got three bids. They look completely different. The numbers are totally different. They have varying levels of detail or clarity. Now what? What do I do? How do I pick which contractor is the right fit? So for years, this is a manual process that my in-house team has been helping clients with, evaluating bids, lining them up side by side so that they can truly be evaluated apple to apple. And over the past few years, I’ve been very closely following the AI space, and I’ve always been a big tech nerd trying to figure out how I can use it in my everyday life. And this was just a no brainer. So I created a tool that does everything that I would normally do to compare bids. And it does it automatically. And it does it with AI. And it sends it right to the homeowner.
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Now, John, for the homeowner, is there a lot of data entry that they have to do? Or is it pretty user friendly?
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It’s simple. You hop into the website. You upload the bids that you received from the contractor. Typically, they come to you in a PDF file that they email to you. Just take that file, upload it to the tool, and put in your name and email so I have somewhere to send it to you. And it can currently work with anywhere between two and four bids.
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So it makes it very, to Andy’s point, fairly simple. Not fairly simple. It makes it very simple.
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It’s as easy as it gets. And frankly, all the homeowner needs to do is upload the bids and then wait a few minutes for the system to do its magic. And the whole point is to bring more clarity to the space. So it doesn’t just line up the bid side by side, but it also gives you an analysis. It helps you understand this bid is higher because of X, Y, and Z. This other bid is missing some of these details, so you should go back to your contractor and clarify these things with them so you can really, truly line up your bid side by side.
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How does it discern between all the variables? Because, I mean, you’re going to have various companies that are going to offer services that are totally different from other companies.
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That’s very true. So first and foremost, it understands what the scope is. It understands what type of project it is, whether it’s a kitchen remodel, a bathroom remodel, a full home gut project, whatever it is. By evaluating all the bids that were submitted, it’s able to identify and fully understand what type of project it is, what should typically be involved in that type of project, and set up the comprehensive scope of work based on that.
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You’re doing – I have another program on Saturdays called Drive Radio I’ve done for years, John, where it’s an automotive program. That’s my background. People call in with car questions and so on. And offline, in a lot of cases, I will have people say, hey, I’m looking to have XYZ repair done. I’ve got a couple of different options here. Which one of these – I’m getting all these different prices. What’s really going on? You’re essentially doing for the homeowner what I do with people, manually speaking, on car repair.
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Right. It’s the exact same problem. I mean, I started it for contractors about six years ago, but every time I talk to someone, they say the exact same thing. Either, I wish I heard about you six months ago, or, man, we need this for the automotive industry. We need this for the insurance industry, for the medical industry. There’s so many avenues that we have so many options. Yeah. Reading Google and reading reviews online is not enough to identify the right option specifically for you. No, it’s not.
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You’re right. Really quick before Andy jumps in, if you ever get to the point where you want to do something on the automotive side, definitely reach out. I would love to chat because I do think there’s a big need on that front. There’s been some other companies that have tried to do some things, but quite frankly, John, there’s not a really solid solution like what you guys have with what you’re doing with great builds. And for all of you listening, it’s Bid Compare AI. Go ahead, Andy.
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yeah john does your ai also um balance in reviews online review scores for the various bidders it does not not currently i i have a running list of things i would like to add to it um that is certainly one of them because that you hit the nail on the head one of the where i started truly is it’ll tell you which bids better it’ll tell you which bid might be suspiciously low but it is not evaluating the contractor for you. So I’ve written some really great content around it. That’s what my entire business is based on, just very clear, thorough contractor screening. And there’s some that is tangible, like reading reviews online, although not all those reviews are honest or legitimate. And sure, a system can verify a license, confirm that it’s active, identify that a contractor has insurance. But there’s a lot of the intangibles that’s really important to evaluate when considering a contractor. So I haven’t found the right way to fully automate that just yet. But trust me, work in progress.
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You know, if my wife had this, she wouldn’t have fallen for my pickup line. What was that? I don’t remember. I’m just saying, you know, I wouldn’t have been able to con her into going out with me.
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Yeah, I hear you. Here locally, John, one of the things that I’ve run into, and I’ve had some people that have reached out to me, and I’ve even done some shows on this particular problem, and I don’t know if this is happening nationwide, but here in the Denver market, in the front range here, we’re encountering what I call third-party providers, whereby they’re listing their services on Craigslist or Facebook Marketplace, and they act like they’re a genuine quote-unquote contractor, but they’re nothing more than a broker, and That is assembling people to go out and try to do work for individuals, none of which are probably licensed, insured or what have you. The broker is handling the transaction, but it’s being done by another party. The warranty gets really flaky at that time. My question for you is, does your system weed those kind of guys out?
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Sure. So, yeah, we call that the home improvement company, if you will. You know, I’m not sure if it would be able to weed those out. Like I said, it will identify if a bid is suspiciously low for that type of project. And certainly if you have three or more options, it’s much easier to see the odd one out. um but it really just judges based on the quality of the proposal um as you guys know some bids might have 10 paragraphs and one number at the bottom for the price right other bids they have every single wine item called out so frankly at the end of the day there’s no right or wrong every contractor has their own reason to why they prepare their bids in their own way but really the point of this tool is to just help people understand Is this a comprehensive bid? Is this bid too low because half of the scope is missing? What materials are included? What are allowances? What is the homeowner responsible for those types of things? So, again, it’s not so good just yet at telling you if it’s a good or a bad contractor. It’s really good at telling you, is it a good or a bad bid?
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Gotcha. Gotcha. Okay. Last, and by the way, awesome. I appreciate this. I will definitely take this episode that we’re doing today. I’ll replay that on my Saturday program, because this is great information for everybody that needs things done around the house, especially when it gets into some of these larger… And I guess that was my next question before I asked my last question, which is where do we get this at? But before I get into that, will this do any type of job? Let’s say, for example, somebody’s calling out a plumber and they’re trying to get a water heater replaced. Can you use it for something small or is it just those large projects?
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That’s a great question. So my company, Great Builds, we primarily only work with general contractors. So when I built the tool initially, the goal was for it to work for large-scale projects like a full-scale remodel or new construction. That said, I’ve had some people test it with smaller projects, just a small plumbing repair, some electrical work. It can still work. At the end of the day, it reads what’s in the bids and it compares them. So regardless, and it currently has helped a few clients that have used it for an architecture bid as well. So it doesn’t necessarily need to be construction. I’m curious, it actually might just work as is for your application in the auto industry. So I’m happy to explore that. But yeah, at the end of the day, it knows well enough how to read the documents, how to understand what they say and what the project is all about, and then puts them side by side and helps you understand, you know, simplify all the jargon that contractors may like to use in their bid and help homeowners, the average person like you or like me at least, really understand what’s going on in this bid.
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Awesome.
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I think helping them navigate the jargon is probably the biggest thing.
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I agree. Okay. How do folks get a hold of it, John?
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So my website is greatbuilds.com, G-R-E-A-T-B-U-I-L-D-Z.com. That’s the website where I currently have it available. I’ve got a pop-up on the page. You can see it all over the place on the website. If it picks up, if it kicks off and people love it, I may turn it into its own website. Again, it’s a totally free service. I’m not trying to make money off of this. It’s just really something I created for my team because we’ve spent so many hours doing this work manually ourselves. And I’m happy to share it with anyone who can benefit from it.
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Well, I appreciate you taking time out of your day. And, again, I will be replaying this on our Saturday program as well. And let’s stay in touch, John. I think this is great. I think it’s great for, A, the space that I’m in and all the different things that we try to do as radio programs and helping. We’ve literally been on Saturdays helping the motoring public for about 25 years. So I’m all for doing whatever we can to help people end up with a better job, whether it’s car, home, whatever, when it’s all said and done. Nothing worse than seeing people get ripped off.
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I completely agree. I’m right there with you. I thought I was getting into the industry of finding contractors for people, but really I’m in the helping industry. Everything that we do within our business and everything else is helping people and primarily helping innocent homeowners. avoid a nightmare. So same thing applies to anyone who’s innocent, who deserves to be treated fairly.
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Awesome. John, again, I appreciate it greatly. Thank you for taking time. I know I said it would be about, you know, 12 or 13 minutes. You’ve been five minutes longer. So I appreciate your time. Very grateful for it and appreciate what you’re doing. Keep up the great work, sir.
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Thank you, guys. Thanks for the opportunity.
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You’re very welcome, John. I appreciate it. And, again, it’s greatbuilds, B-U-I-L-D-Z, .com. The tool is there. That was John Grishpul, G-R-I-S-H-P-U-L. He is the co-CEO of that company. Vector Windersendorff, speaking of bids and different things, I will tell you this. This goes right along with what Dave Bancroft from Veteran Windows has said for years. If you don’t like his bid, in fact, he encourages you, go get another bid because he knows full well he can beat pretty much anybody out there, mainly because he is going direct from the manufacturer to you, sidestepping all of the other overhead that most other companies have. So he’s very confident in that, and I guarantee you he would be a big fan of what we just talked about a moment ago. Veteran Windows and Doors, find them at klzradio.com.
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Putting reason into your afternoon drive, this is John Rush.
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All right, we are back. I almost said Drive Radio because of everything we were just talking about a moment ago. But Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLC 560.
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Okay, along those lines, Mr. Drive Radio, and also we were just talking about Ridgeline, who can guide you to getting a great car. Okay, if you were going to design an AI… That would help people, okay, because here’s what a lot of people do. They want to have a John Rush in their life, a friend who really, a car guy, right? A car friend who can help them, advise them in buying a car. Especially today, there are so many aspects of these cars coming out. And, you know, maybe they don’t hear you and Richard at 445 on Mondays. Good point. Okay, so what would you do with an AI friend? To help them, like they could bring up, say, because you can look at cars online and bring up, say, five or six cars in a certain thing.
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Which, by the way, you can already do.
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Right. But here’s what I’d like. I’d like it to basically ask me, okay, what are your top five priorities? Okay?
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You, the buyer. So in other words, you want a… What are you into? For all of you listening, AI will already help you do a lot of the comparisons. I use it all the time when I’ll have somebody, for example, that’ll say, John, I’m looking at XYZ SUV. What do you think? And I’ll use AI. I cheat. I’ll use AI to say, okay, what other vehicles? Because it’s easier for it to tell me than me to do it off the top of my head. And by the way, sometimes I may miss one or two of the vehicles that are out there. So I’ll use AI for that. But what you’re asking, Andy, is for AI… like me, because what I’m usually doing is saying, okay, I get this is the vehicle you’re looking at, but what are your top five things you need in a vehicle?
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Yeah, I mean, is mileage the biggest thing, or do you want one that’s not good?
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Do you want room? Do you want ride comfort? Do you want four-wheel drive capability?
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Do you want something that you’re not going to have in the shop all the time that really holds the parts? The interior parts really hold up better. There’s not as much plastic. Or resale value. Or resale, yada, yada.
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No, I get what you’re saying.
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Maybe you’re somebody who likes the high country, something that handles in the snow, whatever.
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You’re giving me some ideas where I may have to dig in and do a little bit of that on my own and kind of do what he just did for the other side. Because you’re asking for something that I think a lot of people would appreciate. Yeah.
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Yeah, because it’s different for everybody. You can’t just have somebody say, you know what, oh, you want to look at these five small SUVs or mid-level SUVs, right? Well, here’s the best one, and here’s why. The thing is, you may be right, but the thing is that they may have totally different priorities than you have for what they want. I mean, the rear cargo space may be more important to them than the mileage to them.
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No, you’re hitting it straight on, Andy. And that’s why I always tell people, A, I don’t ever tell someone to go buy a specific vehicle. I mean, occasionally I might if I get that all zeroed in and I pretty much know what somebody’s looking for. I might say, yeah, go buy X, Y, Z. But in general, and I’ve said this before during our car reviews, we’re kind of the car advocate at the end of the day. I’m not necessarily looking at it. I’m not brand specific. you know, loyal or any of that. I’m looking at everything individually, according to the car. But to your point, and I tell this to people, I mean, in some cases, Andy, and we say this during the reviews, you may like the way one car feels and drives way more than the next one, even though that may not have been my choice. If that’s the case, well then buy the car you like the most.
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Okay. Now you are basically the closest thing we have to an AI on this. So I’m just, I’m not actually looking for a car, but I want to throw this at you. Okay. Okay. John, you’re the AI, and I’m plugging this in. I want a mid-level, I’m talking in the CRV RAV4 range.
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Okay.
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Okay. And here are my top priorities, okay? Price. Okay. Mileage. Okay. Rear cargo room.
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Okay.
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Cargo space. Handling. And I don’t know, tech. Okay.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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Most people are going to not like my answer, by the way.
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Okay.
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Because everything.
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Those actually wouldn’t be my priorities.
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Well, but in what you just said, I honestly, and some of you are, again, you’re not going to leave me saying this. I’d go look at a Kia Sportage.
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Yeah.
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Because for everything you just said and what you get, comfortability, fuel economy, price, even the longevity sides of things and so on, I mean, that’s a car that starts at $28,000. Okay. How about this? Power? Which it has.
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You know, handling.
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It has that. Okay. By the way, the key is most people don’t realize this. They’ve actually got one of the more advanced all-wheel drive systems out there. They do a very good job on that end of things.
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Okay.
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So most people don’t give them credit for that, but they actually do. And the tech side of things. I mean, you get more bang for your buck with it than you do some of the counterparts that are out there.
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Okay. Mid-level sedan. Yeah.
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Ooh, that’s a tougher one.
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All right. There’s not as many of them.
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That’s why it’s tougher.
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I know. And, you know, I think people would be looking at, first of all, people are going to want a mid-level sedan that looks cool, quite honestly.
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To me, there’s only one car. And I know this is really bad because typically I would rattle off several cars, Toyota Camry.
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Well, that’s the big boy in the block. That’s the one everybody gets.
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That or an Accord, one of the two. Those two are probably going to be your best choices.
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Is it the best bang for the buck?
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Camry’s pretty tough to beat.
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I mean, is Chevy not with the Malibu come closer? I mean, and it’s not a bad choice.
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But I will tell you, resale value and what you actually get bang for the buck, either Accord or Camry, and Camry probably still comes to the top. Actually, Camry Hybrid is the one I would buy.
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Camry Hybrid.
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Camry Hybrid and that sedan end of things is what I would buy, yes.
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Okay, best SUV hybrid. Best SUV. Let’s go small.
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For somebody who’s tooling around town. RAV4.
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RAV4 Hybrid. RAV4 Hybrid. yeah for the smaller version yes for the smaller version and why would that be because they have the best hybrid system out there period okay of anybody okay you see what i’m what the reason i’m saying this is every saturday morning if somebody wants to call into car ai thank you they can actually call you andy on your show thank you and uh they can plug in the things that they want and we do a lot of john will actually tell them what to get you know and this is that’s a
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To your point, that’s a lot of what we do on Saturday mornings. And, you know, fortunately, we get to get behind the wheel of a lot of these cars and drive them and do different things. But, yeah, and I know, you know, Richard and I talk about this a lot. But on the hybrid side, Andy and I talk about this off air a lot. On the hybrid side, if that’s really the direction you want to head, which a lot of people do, Toyota’s got everybody beat. They’ve got the best system out there, period, by far.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, they’ve been doing it the longest.
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Yeah, Prius.
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They started it all. I mean, they started with the Prius. Mm-hmm. And that really surprised me because I thought other people would come along and, you know, pick that up and exceed them.
SPEAKER 13 :
And that’s an answer I don’t have, Andy, because like you, I thought, and some did, Ford had the Fusion Hybrid, for example, for a while. They had their small little SUV, the Escape. They had an Escape Hybrid, which, by the way, worked extremely well. And Ford kind of started down that path and then it just went away. And I don’t know why.
SPEAKER 08 :
How come Subaru never really went down that road very much?
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Because of their engine design, because they have the boxer engine, and it’s the way they’ve designed their all-wheel drive system and the low center of gravity and all of that fits. They do have some plug-in hybrid versions of that, but it’s still not true Subaru like what most people that want to buy a Subaru are looking for.
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Okay. Now, last question, and you can answer this after the break if you want. What are some areas where you go to other people for their expertise? And, you know, where’s maybe for a trip or where should I go or and maybe or maybe people other other topics where you go to somebody. It doesn’t have to be other people. It can be to you. And what are some topics people go to others and basically plug in the things they want and others give them advice on what you want to do?
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SPEAKER 13 :
All right, we are back. Myself, Andy Pate, Charlie Grimes. And Andy asked me a great question, by the way, before we went to break, talking about what do people use AI for? What are some of the searches? Or where do they go to find certain things? Like, for example, we mentioned the doctor, the medical sides of it a few minutes ago. People ask questions when it comes to, of course, car repair. And we’ve got some of our own experts when it comes to Windows and HVAC and some of those sorts of things. And I think people have questions along those lines. But Andy, I think… What people are not realizing, and this is our side more so than anybody, is they look at AI as the big bad guy. It’s the devil. It’s 666. It’s on its way.
SPEAKER 08 :
No, it’s a tool.
SPEAKER 13 :
And I look at it just like what you’re saying. It’s a tool, and it could be used for good or it can be used for bad, just like we were talking earlier in regards to guns and cars and so on. It’s a tool, and it can be used for one way or the other. And I’m finding… All sorts of uses. For example, Andy just asked a moment ago that, you know, hey, I’m thinking about doing some stuff in my front yard on down the road. And so I just told Andy, you can actually take a picture of your front yard and say, I live in the Denver, Colorado area. I’m at X, you know, feet. And I live in this particular neighborhood. And I would like to change around my front yard landscaping. And I would like to have some things that do this and that and the other. I want to add a fountain, whatever the case may be. It will actually design that for you and tell you what you should or shouldn’t do based upon our climate.
SPEAKER 08 :
Where do you go for this?
SPEAKER 13 :
ChatGPT is what I use. Now, you can use it. You can use Gronk. There’s three or four different AI engines out there that you can utilize for this. I kind of started from the early days using ChatGPT, so I’ve just sort of stuck with it. It doesn’t mean it’s the only one out there. There’s plenty out there. But any of them will do what I just mentioned.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay. What about I want to take a vacation?
SPEAKER 13 :
Same thing.
SPEAKER 08 :
I’m going to this area. What should I do?
SPEAKER 13 :
You can ask AI. You can say, by the way, the best thing to do is to speak to it. But you can either type or speak. And the best thing to do would be to say, hey, I’m thinking about taking a vacation to Fiji. I live in Denver, Colorado. What are the best times of the year to go to Fiji? When’s the off times of the year to go to Fiji? When can I save the most money going to Fiji? What are my best airline choices? And it’ll give you all those answers, Andy.
SPEAKER 08 :
When are the leaves churning in Vermont?
SPEAKER 13 :
And it’ll tell you that as well. Yeah, it’ll say, I want to take a trip to the Upper East Coast. I want to see the fall colors. When are my best times to go? Where are the best places to stay? What are my best routes? What highway should I be on? And so on. It will tell you. Going back to the car thing. I’m looking at buying this particular vehicle. I’d like a comparison of like vehicles, and it’ll even go as far as to say, okay, here’s all your choices. Would you like me to put that in a categorized PDF? It will do that for you.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay, can I go to another topic?
SPEAKER 13 :
Absolutely.
SPEAKER 08 :
And the reason I’m going to go to this is because I didn’t get to call in yesterday, and you and Joe talked about it, and I was jealous. Go ahead. And it was talking about, once again, firing these people who were celebrating the assassination of Charlie Kirk.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 08 :
Pilots. Okay. Nurses. Doctors. Teachers. Okay. I think all of these people should be fired if they celebrate an assassination. I don’t want somebody who celebrates the assassination of people they don’t like handling my health care. What if they don’t like, what if they find out my politics and don’t like, and by the way, I’ve had this happen in my life. Okay. Not mine personally, but somebody very personally important to me who the hospital did not like their views on COVID at the time and treated them very differently. And basically they’re dead now. Okay. I think that you should lose your job if you celebrate the assassination of an American. First of all, I think that should endanger your job anywhere. I agree. But I’m just obviously in any customer service place. Because let’s say you’re even a restaurant, I mean, and you’re a waitress. And people in the area are going to find out this waitress celebrated an assassination. You know, they’re not going to want that person serving them. I mean.
SPEAKER 13 :
I wouldn’t want to go there.
SPEAKER 08 :
No, heck no.
SPEAKER 13 :
I would do everything possible to not be there.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, I would let them know, fire this person or I won’t be there.
SPEAKER 13 :
Meaning that owner is going to lose revenue now.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah. And that’s not a mean threat. You’re just being honest.
SPEAKER 13 :
No, this is called dollars and cents, Andy. People speak with their pocketbooks.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah. And so, you know… Right? Oh, totally. I believe, though, that in the case… I think in the case of teachers, I think that’s probably the biggest case. How can you have a teacher… who literally celebrates the assassination of anyone, either side, be teaching our kids.
SPEAKER 13 :
I agree with you.
SPEAKER 08 :
I think that any teacher that in any way, shape, or form weighed in in that way should be let go immediately.
SPEAKER 13 :
I can’t disagree with you. 100% correct.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay. I was just wondering because I wanted to hear what you thought.
SPEAKER 13 :
No, you’re 100% correct. I agree with you. And I understand what Joe was saying, that there’s some contracts and things like that where that might not be as easy as you think, although I believe an American airline pilot lost his job over something along those lines because the FAA actually stepped in and said, yeah, you can’t be doing this. No. You are a person that is responsible for the lives of others that are behind that little wall that you sit in front of.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, I can’t have you responsible for people’s lives when you celebrate the loss of a life.
SPEAKER 13 :
Right. It doesn’t go hand in hand.
SPEAKER 08 :
No.
SPEAKER 13 :
And I, by the way, I’m with them when it comes to that. And I’m on your side on this. I understand what Joe was saying yesterday that, yes, in fact, there’s going to be some situations where it gets a little stickier. Although I think you’re on shaky ground, even if you’ve got some sort of a union contract when you do those things.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, even if you have a union contract, when somebody says that they’re celebrating an assassination.
SPEAKER 13 :
The death of somebody else.
SPEAKER 08 :
That’s still cause, I think, for termination. Now, you may have to go through the union. I think, Joe, as a point, you’ve got to talk to the union.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 08 :
But I have a feeling the union is going to look back and say, yeah, they’re gone.
SPEAKER 13 :
You’re on shaky ground because it doesn’t look good for them either.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right. They don’t want.
SPEAKER 13 :
They have to have votes down the road also.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right.
SPEAKER 13 :
I mean, they’re political as well. All right, one thing that I want to mention, I was going to try to do this last week. In fact, I was going to do this the very day that all of this stuff about Charlie came out, you know, the day of his assassination. And that is we have some individual race registrations that are free for the Boulderthon. That is a race that’s coming up towards the end of the month by Puma. It’s presented by Puma. And you can run either a 5K or a 10K. And some of you are runners. I am not. Andy, are you a runner? No. Okay, so Andy’s not a runner, neither is Charlie. So none of the three of us are going to participate in this, but hey, knock your socks off. And some people are big runners, and I know some of you listening are. So we have four individual race registrations for free, meaning you can run in this race for free. Normally, this is going to have a high registration. It’s 95% sold out already, meaning that not only would you have to pay, but you may now, because this was a week ago, you may not even get… a registration at this point. So we have four free ones that I believe even if you’ve got a racing partner you want to have join you, I think they’ll accommodate us on that as well. Don’t quote me on that, but I think they will. I do know for sure that we can get you four registrations. So what I need you to do is call Charlie, 303- 477-5600. We just need your name and email address. And then we’ll pass that along to the race officials, and they will get you all registered. So if you’re somebody that would like to compete in the Boulder-thon coming up here at the end of the month, it’s the end of September, September 28th, so just two weeks away, basically. If you want to participate in that, we need your name and your email address. You can run your 5K or a 10K, and all of the registration stuff is handled for free here. And normally there’s a cost to that, and I don’t know exactly what the cost is. I’m sorry I don’t have that in front of me, but there is a cost to it. And, as I said, as of about a week and a half ago, it was 95% sold out. So it could be sold out right now, meaning you may not even be able to get in. So if you want to run in that, call us. We’ll get you taken care of. 303-477-5600. Golden Eagle Financial coming up next. Al Smith, he did a great interview of late. Tune in, listen in. We’ll be right back after that. Find him at klzradio.com.
SPEAKER 15 :
TJ here with KLZ and Al Smith of Golden Eagle Financial. And Al, I have a question for you. I’ve been putting money away for a while in a savings account or maybe a couple of investment accounts, but what am I doing wrong and what can you do better than that?
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, I think a savings account is important because all the financial gurus, including myself, agree you should have three to six months savings that you have ready liquid access to. But retirement planning is a bit more long-term. And it’s a bit more strategic. We want to take a look at the sum of money you’ll need way into the future. And we want to look at how that money can last by providing you income for as long as you live.
SPEAKER 15 :
What kind of planning or strategy do you provide for folks with that that have a big savings but haven’t made that next step?
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, that’s a good question. If someone has a large amount in savings, one of the things I do is we have a conversation about their risk tolerance. Nobody’s comfortable losing money, but having money in the market over a long period of time is a mechanism to accumulate wealth. And so we talk about the different levels of risk and the different products that are available. And we don’t put everybody into one box, but I have an enormous assortment of financial products. And it’s not that there’s good ones or bad ones. It’s there are some that are more appropriate for some people, but not for others.
SPEAKER 15 :
And that sounds excellent. How can folks get in touch with you for that meeting?
SPEAKER 09 :
You can reach me at 303-744-1128. And if I’m not there, it goes to voicemail, but I return my voicemails promptly. And we could have a conversation in the office. If you live a considerable distance away, we can have a long phone conversation or a Zoom call, whichever you would prefer.
SPEAKER 15 :
And as always, you can find him at klzradio.com slash money. Al, thanks so much for joining us today.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, thank you, TJ. Thanks for the conversation.
SPEAKER 15 :
You bet.
SPEAKER 13 :
All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. KLZ 560. So somebody had called into Charlie and asked if we knew anything about armed queers. Do we have any of them in Colorado? There definitely is a group in Salt Lake City. They have an Instagram page and so on. They call themselves the armed queers. This is news to me. I don’t know anything about it.
SPEAKER 08 :
No, I’m pretty sure they have… segments of it all over the country okay we are a major urban area so i’m sure they do okay i i don’t know of them i’ve never sorry this is not an issue that’s come up a lot but is this a dangerous group yes okay and what we’re really talking about is trans tifa trans tifa trans tifa or trans tifa trans tifa and trans tifa is a very very very dangerous group
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, here’s my advice to them, though. F-A-F-O. You better be careful because you’re messing with the other side that doesn’t take too kindly to being threatened and bullied and so on. And I’m not exaggerating when I say that, Andy.
SPEAKER 08 :
No, I agree.
SPEAKER 13 :
I know. They are very dangerous. I get what you’re saying. But they should probably be very careful as well because guess what? You push hard enough on one side and it’s not going to end well.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, I think they have a more direct problem, and that is, I believe that the Trump administration right now is looking into those groups very, very intently.
SPEAKER 13 :
I think that’s ultimately what Pam Bondi was trying to say.
SPEAKER 08 :
Do you think that this… that they’re basically going to be bringing in a number of people with this killing. I mean, we don’t know, obviously. It’s too early. I don’t know. That one I don’t have an answer.
SPEAKER 13 :
I wish I had an answer for you on that one, Andy. I don’t know.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, it’s too early. I mean, it does sound like there was… Here’s what would get it with me, is if a lot of people in this online group that they had knew in advance…
SPEAKER 13 :
That he was going to do this?
SPEAKER 08 :
That he was going to do this.
SPEAKER 13 :
Oh, yeah, now you have a real problem.
SPEAKER 08 :
Or had a very good idea that this would be a target of his in advance. That would be a huge problem.
SPEAKER 13 :
That’s a problem.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah. Yes. I don’t know yet. We’ll see. But that would be a huge problem. And by the way, that would be the kind of problem that would blow up their entire group.
SPEAKER 13 :
Very easily.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 13 :
Very easily. No. And again, for a lot of you listening, these are things that, you know, myself, I know Andy as well. I don’t follow these sorts of groups and I just don’t have any reason to go investigate and mess with and deal with. I mean, honestly, I have a lot of other things on my plate. on a daily basis it doesn’t mean that we shouldn’t be looking at these so i appreciate the phone call because i was not aware of this so i appreciate the awareness and bringing that up so we can tell others about it but yeah this this stuff these fringe groups i call them andy that’s the kind of news to me because i don’t pay a lot of attention to that stuff
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay, well, do we have a moment?
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, we’ve got until the top of the hour.
SPEAKER 08 :
Go ahead. Gay people with guns. I have no problem with that. Sure. By the way, I know some gay Republicans who love to shoot guns. They’re big-time patriots. Correct. Knock your socks off. Huge MAGA people. Go for it. Yes. Trans people with guns.
SPEAKER 13 :
That’s a mental illness.
SPEAKER 08 :
I believe it is. That’s a mental illness with a gun now. Look, I’ve always said this. These are people who literally believe they are in the wrong body.
SPEAKER 13 :
Right. And you’re going to allow them to have a gun. By the way, these are the same people that believe in red flag laws, yet they’re not being applied to themselves.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 13 :
Right?
SPEAKER 08 :
I mean, if I literally believed that I were Michael Jordan trapped in this unathletic old body.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, we’d be calling the stretcher for you.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yes, you would. Okay, you’d think I was nuts.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay, when you literally believe that you’re trapped in the wrong body, that’s a mental illness. And I don’t think mentally ill people should have a weapon. I’m not comfortable with them having cutlery.
SPEAKER 13 :
I’m going to go one step further, and some of you on that side may not like me for saying this, but I’m going to say it anyways. I look at it as not only a mental illness, but I believe you’re borderline demon-possessed because that is very satanic in saying that, listen, I am this close, because this is Satan, I’m this close to being God. I want to be like God. I want to replace God. And, oh, guess what? You were made in the wrong body, so just tell God to shove it. Well, that’s basically what you’re saying. Right. Isn’t that what they’re saying, Andy?
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah. Although, of course, they don’t believe in God or virtually none. I would think virtually none believe in God. Maybe some do. I don’t know. Sorry.
SPEAKER 13 :
I obviously don’t interact with that. I don’t know. Yeah, I can’t answer that one.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah. I look at this and I’m just like, look, I am sorry, but… The simple fact is that segment of the population, for such a tiny segment of the population, has had a very outsized number of violent acts of late. And it’s just like, look, we’re talking about a mentally ill group.
SPEAKER 13 :
Right. Yes, absolutely.
SPEAKER 1 :
100%.
SPEAKER 13 :
I’ve said it over and over and over again. I’ll keep saying it. Years and years and years ago, had this come up, they would have left in a straitjacket, gone to a mental institution. Right. But today we celebrate it.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, that group talks about targeting fascists, as they call it. What is a fascist to them? A fascist is anyone who disagrees with the trans lifestyle. So to them, I am a fascist.
SPEAKER 13 :
So am I. Because you hear me talk about it constantly.
SPEAKER 08 :
Which means we have targets on us.
SPEAKER 13 :
Right.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay, with these groups.
SPEAKER 13 :
Right. Wow. Because they’re total nutjobs, Andy. They’re wackadoodles.
SPEAKER 08 :
Can you even imagine what it’s like to believe that speech is violence? So they would look at our speech as violence. therefore we’re a threat, and it would be justified to take us out. Remember all those numbers we talked about at the beginning of last hour on all those numbers on liberals and how much more they’re between three and eight. It was like times as likely to justify killing as conservatives.
SPEAKER 13 :
Which there’s never justification for.
SPEAKER 08 :
No.
SPEAKER 13 :
Period. Period.
SPEAKER 08 :
My gosh, killing people for disagreeing with you. Are you out of your mind? And don’t get me wrong. Do I think that liberals cause great damage? Yes. I think Barack Obama destroyed our country with Obamacare. I really do.
SPEAKER 13 :
Absolutely.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 13 :
He definitely destroyed health care for sure.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, that’s what I mean. Yes. I mean, he set back health care in so many ways that are so horrible. I look at what Biden sold us out to foreign nations for crying out loud.
SPEAKER 13 :
And both of them ran around the world apologizing for us and who we are as a country and so on and so forth. Total, total garbage.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 13 :
I would never think of committing violence against these people. Me neither. I want to beat them at the ballot box. But, Andy, our brains don’t work that way, though. That’s the difference. We’re sane, thought-provoking, but we’re sane, thoughtful individuals that understand the value of life. You know what really scares me, though, John?
SPEAKER 08 :
Because you’re totally right. We value life. Right. They don’t. What scares me is that there is a small contingent on the right, though, that does look at violence as an option. I’ve dealt with this in the last few days. You know, I put out posts basically telling people, hey… The left absolutely, I mean, they are desperate to have us take a shot back. Right? They desperately want us to shoot back so they can say everybody does it. That’s what they want. And I advise everybody, stay peaceful, watch them squirm. Okay? In other words, your peacefulness is really bad for the left right now. And by the way, strategically, it really is. Well, there were a couple people who didn’t like this advice. And I’m telling you what. That very, very tiny contingent on the right does kind of scare me.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, I mean, I will say this.
SPEAKER 08 :
They are tiny, thank goodness.
SPEAKER 13 :
They’re very tiny. I mean, is it something to be watchful for? Yes. Am I going to lose any sleep over it? No, nor will Andy. But at the end of the day, is it something to be aware of? Yes.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, and I don’t think these people are going to do anything.
SPEAKER 13 :
But I appreciate somebody calling in and talking about that because it wasn’t something that was in my notes for today. It’s not something that, frankly, I’ve been following very closely there. You’re going to find on both sides. We just talked about Fuentes during the first hour. Right. You’re going to find radical groups all around. And I call them that because they’re not a part of what we’re doing. And I think even some that would be on the left themselves, Andy, I think they would even call these, you know, these armed queers. I’m not sure they would even claim them.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right. You know, have you heard the left put out these stats like, I don’t know, like Democrats only commit like 4% of the political violence and the right commits all the rest. Oh, it’s totally, but they totally wipe out anything done by BLM. They don’t count anything done by, yes.
SPEAKER 13 :
They’re not political?
SPEAKER 08 :
BLM overran whole cities.
SPEAKER 13 :
And burned them to the ground. Exactly.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, you know, burning Tesla.
SPEAKER 13 :
Burning police stations to the ground.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, burning Teslas, that doesn’t count. Virtually nothing counts if they don’t want it to count.
SPEAKER 13 :
Vandalizing cars, all the different things we’ve seen in the past year, Andy.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right. Look, here’s the bottom line. Take a step back. Is it Democrat or Republican cities that are being shot up every weekend?
SPEAKER 13 :
Democrat.
SPEAKER 08 :
Where’s the violence, John?
SPEAKER 13 :
Democrat.
SPEAKER 08 :
Everywhere the Democrats run, it’s a very dangerous place to be. By the way, not just for conservatives, but for people. Okay?
SPEAKER 13 :
For anyone. Yeah, good point. Yeah, great point.
SPEAKER 08 :
You know, I think that the saddest thing in the world, well, the saddest thing is anyone dying. And Charlie, my gosh, what a wonderful man. Right. But I also, it just breaks my heart every time we hear of yet another innocent black kid in Chicago getting killed by a stray bullet. Two groups fighting. This kid has nothing to do with it. They’re all playing on their doorstep.
SPEAKER 13 :
I agree with you. Somebody also asked, you know, what’s the situation with the flags, half-masked and all of that? You know, why did Charlie Kirk get it and why didn’t others? I’ll simply say it this way. Charlie Kirk was very well known not only nationwide but worldwide. He left an impact upon lots of individuals, not to take anything away from other people that have died. But when you have to go look up who died to even determine who they were, that’s why government, you know, President Trump ordered, you know, flags to be flown, half staff, half mast, if you would, because of Charlie Kirk. Right. Or for Charlie Kirk, I should say.
SPEAKER 08 :
He had a massive national presence. This other person was a local presence. And that’s why I would expect locally they had flags at half-mast. It’s just national, local. That’s all it was.
SPEAKER 13 :
Now, I will say this, and I’ve got time to say this, and please, nobody be offended at what I’m going to say. I think we fly it at half-staff far too often. That’s my own opinion.
SPEAKER 08 :
No, I agree.
SPEAKER 13 :
I think there’s a lot of times where it’s flown at half-staff, and it’s like, okay, why? Why?
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, John, it brings up the question, well, why for this one, not for that one? Why for this? In the old days, wasn’t it pretty much just political leaders and military?
SPEAKER 13 :
Typically. Or great tragedies like 9-11 that would happen to the country.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right, right.
SPEAKER 13 :
You know, great travesty on the country. You know, that was a hit on our country. And, of course, it was flown then for that very reason. And I’m one like you. I’m like, you know, we do it far too often. It needs to be less than it is, in my opinion.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 13 :
That’s me.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, just because it brings up questions like that one, which are good questions.
SPEAKER 13 :
Which they’re good questions, absolutely. Yeah, I’m not dogging those questions. That’s a great question. All right, we’ll come right back. Cup Creek Heat and Air Conditioning, where if you need a furnace tune-up, which a lot of you do, we’re heading into that time where you might, you know, some of you that are up in the foothills even, might be turning on the furnace at night right now. Get that tuned up, ready to go with Cup Creek Heat and Air Conditioning. Find them at klzradio.com.
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SPEAKER 13 :
Andy and I were just talking through the break that, you know, if something had been different last week, let’s say instead of Charlie Kirk being assassinated, heaven forbid, AOC. Right, someone on the left. Somebody on the left.
SPEAKER 08 :
A major national voice on the left. Would I want them at half-mast? Yes.
SPEAKER 13 :
It would be the same situation. Now, I will say this, and I said this last week. The difference, though, in the response to is hugely different. I believe if somebody like that were to be assassinated on the left, there would be literally rioting in the streets the next day or that same night.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, they would say that, I don’t know, that the white nationalists were coming to get them all.
SPEAKER 13 :
In the case of Charlie Kirk, it was prayer vigils nationwide. It was very peaceful.
SPEAKER 08 :
There’s been no violence from the right to the left nationwide.
SPEAKER 13 :
since what happened to charlie how much would happen if aoc were gunned down by someone by someone of the right by someone of the right cities would be burned down yeah i’m not exaggerating when i say that cities would be on fire right now as we speak a week later you’d still be dealing with the aftermath of something along those lines absolutely you would be that’s the difference between one side and the other as you opened up the show today talking about the differences in in the violence from one side to the other That’s the difference. That’s what would be going on right now versus what is actually happening. Yeah. Huge difference. There’s no comparison. All right. Another hour coming your way. We’re going to talk about Turning Point USA and what’s next for them as soon as we come back. This is Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
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