In this compelling episode of Rush to Reason, host John Rush dives into a whirlwind of topics—from the GOP’s messaging failures and Colorado’s political future to the dangers of conspiracy culture within conservatism. A thoughtful caller discussion unpacks the GOP’s struggle to connect with voters and the possible rise of figures like Victor Marks in the gubernatorial race. John takes a firm stand against anti-Semitism in the conservative movement, calling out figures like Stu Peters, Laura Loomer, and Candace Owens for spreading hate and distraction.
The show also takes a reflective turn as John opens up about the recent passing
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All right, hour number three, Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Brad and Lakewood, go ahead, sir.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, you and I have talked about this before, so I might be a tad bit repetitive when I start out. The Republicans don’t know how to message. With this government shutdown, it’s fairly obvious when all the Republicans voted for it and two Democrats in the Senate voted for it, The Democrats are the problem, but yet they continue to use the same Saul Alinsky trick, blame the opposition for the same thing you’re doing. Why can’t the Republicans articulate their message that we have the filibuster and we’re five votes short?
SPEAKER 04 :
That’s a great question, and you know me. I feel like the same way you do, Brad. One of the biggest complaints I have with our party is the fact that we – you just said it – we message terribly. I don’t know why it’s so hard for us to get our message across because it’s not that difficult. Now, I will say in this particular case, I think – We could be messaging better, don’t get me wrong. I agree with you 100% on that one, Brad. But I also think that the average middle-of-the-road voter, which is what either side needs to win, I don’t think you really need to at this point in time on this particular one. I think they realize full well exactly who’s causing the shutdown.
SPEAKER 07 :
But I read these comments, like on Hickenlooper Bennett’s Facebook page, people keep telling Hickenlooper to stand firm, and it’s the Republicans’ fault, so…
SPEAKER 04 :
Keep in mind that those people that are actually responding to those particular pages, those are your hardcore lefties. Those are not individuals that are in the middle of the road. In fact, most of those people are probably not even on those pages at all. So reality is you’re going to have that hardcore lefty that’s going to say that no matter what. Don’t let that bother you because that’s just who they are.
SPEAKER 07 :
Do you think there’s ever any chance of a Fetterman joining the Republican Party?
SPEAKER 04 :
That’s a great question. I was thinking about that last week. Maybe if his party continues to push him, you know, out the door like they’re doing, basically, and continuing to browbeat him like they’ve been doing. Yeah, actually, Brad, I think there might be a chance.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah. I think the Democrats actually might throw him out of the party first. They might.
SPEAKER 04 :
They might. There’s talk about that. You could very well be correct.
SPEAKER 07 :
No, no. Why are we continually in recess or session all the time? I called up Scalise’s office today and say there’s a couple of good bills that could be brought to the floor. Massey’s H.R. 1040, which would actually end the double taxation of Social Security, or MTG was saying that she introduced a bill to have Antifa declare a terrorist organization. But every time you turn around, Mike Johnson has the house out of session or on vacation or whatever you want to call it. Wouldn’t it make more sense? call session, get these bills passed, and then they’d be ready to go to the Senate?
SPEAKER 04 :
I would be doing that. That would be the way I would do it, Brad. I can’t disagree with you there.
SPEAKER 07 :
Do you think Trump just has poor judgment? Now, obviously, we’re far better off with Trump. He’s not going to be perfect. At times, do you think he has poor judgment character, or do you think it’s the case of Nobody’s going to be 100% perfect.
SPEAKER 04 :
Nobody’s going to, yeah, no, I think it’s more of the latter. You know, we live in a day and age, Brad, where, I mean, even as employers, I mean, I’ve got folks that I coach whereby you’ve got certain employees whereby you’re putting up with certain things because you know the alternative is probably going to be far worse than the one you have right now. So there’s just certain things as an employer you actually put up with knowing you don’t have much choice. I think Trump finds himself in that same position.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, especially when we only have 220 employees. Republicans in the House. Now, about MM and LL, I don’t see the Colorado Republican Party doing much to fight that either. And one thing about Democrats is they refuse to give up. Next year, they’re going to be doing something to mess with the progressive, do a progressive income tax and get rid of the flat tax. Why aren’t we as Republicans, like the Independence Institute or Advanced Colorado, doing something to fight that, say, like, let’s lower it down to zero, because even Polis supports bringing it down to zero. Why aren’t we doing a petition drive to counteract that?
SPEAKER 04 :
Brad, we have a hard time figuring out who we’re even going to get behind for a governor. So at the end of the day, no offense, we don’t have enough collective will in this state on the conservative side to accomplish much of anything. I hate to say that, but that’s where we’re at.
SPEAKER 07 :
Who do you support for governor?
SPEAKER 04 :
Nobody yet. No one. Way, way, way too far out. I have no idea. I watched – I was going to mention this, so I’m glad you asked. I watched a little bit of the – debate’s not the right way to say it, but the forum, the gathering they had up in Fort Collins where I think everybody was there. Not everybody. There was probably half, I want to say, maybe, of everybody that’s on – You know, there’s, what, 19 or 20 now. There was about half of them that actually went up there and were at that particular forum. Victor Marks, who’s one of the bigger names right now, was not there. I’m not sure exactly why. And I’ll just say this straight up, Brad. Out of the – I want to say there was roughly 10, maybe 12 – I don’t think there was even 12. There might have been 10 candidates that were there up – and I should have written this down, but I didn’t. But out of all of them that were there, there were probably four – that really I felt like have any kind of a chance of moving forward. I think a lot of guys have thrown their hat in the ring to make themselves more well-known, politically speaking, which I’m not blaming them for doing so. But the majority of those that were there, even at that forum, will never make it much further, period, in what they’re doing.
SPEAKER 07 :
Who are the four? I would go… Right now, if I could vote, I would vote for Greg Lopez.
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The four that I think will move on out of everybody that was there that I was listening to will most likely be Mark Baisley, Scott Bottoms, Barb Kirkmeyer, of course, just because she’s a politician and knows exactly how to roll things through, and probably Jason, the sheriff. Those four probably will move forward out of the group that were there.
SPEAKER 07 :
You don’t think Greg will move forward?
SPEAKER 04 :
Maybe. So I guess maybe there’s five that might move forward. I mean, Greg will no matter what, just because that’s his will. And I’m not trying to belittle anybody or be mean to anybody. I don’t see Greg making it past the primary. I’m sorry. It’s just not going to happen.
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Yeah, Scott Bottoms appears to have the momentum.
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Scott’s got the momentum and the hardcore of the party. Scott, and I love Scott, and I’ve interviewed him, and he thinks just like I do, but he won’t make it past the primary either because that middle-of-the-road voter, and if he does, we’re losing because that middle-of-the-road voter won’t vote for Scott no more than they would vote for me.
SPEAKER 07 :
How about Barb Kirkmeyer? far more liberal than I would like.
SPEAKER 04 :
She is, and as far as that goes, Barb is probably more electable, but the problem I think I see Barb having is getting enough other hardcore conservatives behind her. That’s a problem we’ve got in the state right now. They’re not going to get behind her, so she doesn’t have a choice. She doesn’t have a chance either.
SPEAKER 07 :
So do you think we have any chance at all of winning the election? Republican governorship?
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The only person right now, and I’m not putting my name in the hat for them because I don’t know them well enough, they’ve not been fully vetted, I’m not sure exactly how things are going to move forward, but I think right now, momentum-wise, Victor Marks probably has as much chance of winning it as anybody does.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, I had never even heard about him until a couple weeks ago, so… But I’ve been hearing a lot of really good things about him, and he seems to have a lot of people really fired up.
SPEAKER 04 :
He does, and I want to make sure I’m crystal clear on this. I’m not speaking badly of anybody else. I’m simply just saying this as spitballing strategy, Brad. I have no dog in the fight, and I’m not putting my name behind anybody. I never do on the primary side. I don’t endorse anyone. I never will, so I’m not. I’m simply speaking out loud. about each individual candidate, but as far as momentum in the party minus the hardcore folk on the right, which that, you know, those 20 people that are basically running the party right now, which I’m going to do everything possible to get them out of this state, frankly, because I’m working on that every single day as much as I can, Brandt, because they’re screwing up the party. They’re not helping it. Other than those 20 knuckleheads and some of their followers, yeah, I think Victor’s got probably more chance of winning it overall than anybody else.
SPEAKER 07 :
Who were the 20 knuckleheads you were saying? I didn’t catch that.
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The Rhino Watch knuckleheads.
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Oh, yeah, yeah.
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Those bozos that really are having really great influence in the party, but those bozos need to go bye-bye.
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Yeah, yeah. They’re awful.
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They have no idea what they’re doing, Brad. They’re in it for the money and the glory only. They are not doing anything to help the party out at the end of the day. Zero zilch. Nothing.
SPEAKER 07 :
Now, about this Charlie Kirk assassination, there’s all these conspiracy theories going around. Do you believe any of them? Nope.
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I don’t believe any of them. Candace Owens and all of that are on her side are total knuckleheads, Brad. I don’t know what they’re really trying to accomplish when it’s all said and done other than to get views and clicks for themselves. Most of these conspiracy theories are nothing more than that. How can I be ahead of somebody else? How can I be in the news? How can I get myself up above everybody else in viewership and ratings and clicks and so on? All these conspiracy theories, in my opinion, are exactly that. It’s so funny, Brad. All these people that supposedly are hardcore Christians, and yet they want a definitive answer as to what happened. And even the doctor himself, from what I’ve read, is saying, listen, I don’t have exact answers as to what happened. All these people of quote-unquote faith, Brad, have no faith when it comes to that end of things. In other words, what I’m getting at is, you know what, it may not be explained as to exactly everything that happened and what happened to the bullet and what happened inside of his body, because at the end of the day, they’re not in charge.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, have you ever heard of this guy named Stu Peters?
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Yeah, and Stu’s a wackadoodle, I’m sorry to say, but he is. And I know there’s people listening to me that think Stu’s a great guy. I’m not one of them.
SPEAKER 07 :
I just heard about him in the last couple weeks.
SPEAKER 04 :
Stu is another guy. And I think, you know, here’s the thing with Stu. Does a blind squirrel find a nut every now and again? Absolutely they do. Does that mean that, you know, Stu is right on everything that he does? And I know I’m going to take some flack for this because there’s people out there listening. I’ve even got family members that think Stu’s a great guy. I’m not in that same camp. I’m not. I can’t. How should I say this? I’m looking for the right words. Again, I think Stu is right in a lot of cases, but Stu goes way too far in most. Let’s say it that way.
SPEAKER 07 :
He appears to be very anti-Semitic, too.
SPEAKER 04 :
Stu’s a Jew-hater. Which for me, really quick, Brad, for me means I can’t really trust anything else the guy says because he’s a Jew-hater.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, anybody that wants to blame all the problems of the world on one religion or one race or… You’ve got people that seem to think we should repeal the 19th Amendment when they start blaming one group way too much. Correct.
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And thank you for summing up, Stu. That’s my biggest problem with Stu is, yes, occasionally I think he’s right on certain things. The problem is what he’s right on gets overshadowed by everything you just said.
SPEAKER 07 :
Hey, can I make a quick comment about the football conversation?
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, no, and by the way, everything you just said, I’m glad you brought up because we’ve got people out there that’ll look at guys like Stu kind of religiously, if you would, Brad, thinking that that guy, basically he’s holier than thou and whatever he says is right. I don’t see him that way, so thank you for bringing that up.
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Yeah, the problem I have with football nowadays is I think we need to go back to the days of Bud Grant where defense wins the game and offense sells the tickets. They don’t let the defense do their job. Over 500 touchdown passes, that’s all good and well, but would he have done that in the days of Tarkington? And if Tarkington was allowed to play today under the same rules of Marino? they’d be throwing 600 or 700 touchdown passes, you know?
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, I mean, I don’t know. That’s a tough one, Brad. I mean, every game, as you know, every game, doesn’t matter whether we’re talking football, baseball, basketball, whatever, it all morphs. The players become better and better over time. You know, the reality is it is what it is. It’s like politics. You’re not going to go back in time, so you’ve got to learn to deal with what’s there right now because it’s not going to change.
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And as far as, like, baseball, I don’t like it. I remember the days when it was 10 teams in the AL, 10 in the NL, and then they had the division championships. Now they’re going to this best of seven, best of five wildcard stuff. I lost interest in all that. And the old players had a lot more charisma. I remember watching guys like Barron Mantle and Whitey Ford and Yogi Berra and Killebrew, you know. So the players today, they just don’t have the charisma that the old players have. And personally, I think a lot of players today wouldn’t make it in the old days because nowadays we have too many teams and the talent’s diluted. That’s my personal opinion.
SPEAKER 04 :
And I’m getting messages, by the way, where people think that I should just be on PBR, Brad, because of my views with some of these other knuckleheads. And by the way, these are the Jew haters that send me these messages, Brad. So we have them that actually listen. And I don’t get where these people come from, Brad. Like you said a moment ago, not to get away from the sports thing, but just to go back and talk about some of the texters and people that listen to the program. Brad, I don’t understand these people. I don’t get where that mindset comes from. It makes no sense to me. And these are, by the way, Brad, supposed Christians that send me this garbage.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, what’s PBR? I don’t even listen to that.
SPEAKER 04 :
Public Broadcast Radio.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, see, I listen to people like you and Mark Levin.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, I don’t listen to PBR or any of that kind of stuff anyways, because it’s just, A, and you guys all know me, I am not that. I am by no means a liberal like what would be on those particular stations. I think of all, Brad, you of all people know I’m not that guy.
SPEAKER 07 :
No, but I listen to a lot of stuff, even if I don’t agree with it or like it, like a,
SPEAKER 04 :
Stu Peters, I’ll listen to him just because I want to see what the… Yeah, yeah, and occasionally he’s one of the few guys that somebody will send me a little clip, and I might, you know, spend a minute or two listening to Stu. Again, the problem with Stu is while he’s right on some things, he’s wrong on so many others, he invalidates the stuff he’s right on.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, when he continually blames one religion for all the problems of the world… You don’t have much credibility.
SPEAKER 04 :
No, again, these guys that are right sometimes, they lose all credibility because of their wackadoodleness in other areas, Brad.
SPEAKER 07 :
Laura Loomer is Jewish, and I think— Oh, Laura Loomer, she’s another wackadoodle.
SPEAKER 04 :
That woman is darn near insane, I’m sorry to say. Oh, sorry about that. She’s a wackadoodle, Brad. I mean, and she is somebody that I do think at one time was pretty spot on. But these guys get off in these weirdo spaces. And this is the one thing, Brad, I’m glad you brought this up because I was going to talk about some of this today after things I read over the weekend. I don’t understand why they get so far off track. I don’t know whether it’s because they start getting some traction and people start clicking on some of their posts and they start making some money on this. And so then it sort of just feeds this conspiracy monster, I guess you could say, Brad. And then they get totally off track.
SPEAKER 07 :
And it is easy to get caught up in the hype because I really liked her and I thought she was really good.
SPEAKER 04 :
She used to be. At one time, Brad, I think she was, but she is a wackadoodle now. Is that why they don’t want her going anywhere near… Oh, absolutely, because most of what she’s ever predicted in regards to anything with any validity to it at all has never come true.
SPEAKER 07 :
I see. So maybe… And it is easy to get caught up in the emotion when you… Some of these people are very influential and they can…
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, I think it’s two things, Brad, and you just said it. I think they get caught up in the emotional thing. And here’s the other fact of the matter. They get caught up in the money as well because when they start getting to the point where they gain some traction on especially the social media aspect of things, Brad, the money gets really big. I don’t think people really understand how much money is in it for these people. It’s a huge number on a monthly basis, Brad.
SPEAKER 07 :
I see. Now, do you think MM and LL are going to pass?
SPEAKER 04 :
That I have no idea, and I haven’t studied enough of some of that stuff to really know. The one thing about Colorado, and, of course, those are the ballot measures to retain excess tax revenue. In Colorado, as bipolar as the voters are, I mean, they’ll shoot down things like that and yet vote in the same legislator that will pass them. So it’s liable to fail, but yet that really doesn’t change anything at the end of the day because they won’t vote these knuckleheads out.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, the Independence Institute keeps saying they’re gradually moving towards zero income tax, but they’ve gone from 4.63 to 4.40.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, I don’t see us moving in that direction, Brad, despite what they say.
SPEAKER 07 :
It’s taken them forever and a day. You’d think they would have had something on the ballot to lower it a little more.
SPEAKER 04 :
You’d think. I want a ballot measure that caps property taxes, period. It caps them totally, period. They can’t go any higher than X.
SPEAKER 07 :
I agree. Didn’t they have something on there a few years ago and Advance Institute pulled it?
SPEAKER 04 :
By the way, yeah, I think you’re right. And I think that’s what I just said. I think that’s a measure you could get passed in Colorado.
SPEAKER 07 :
And when Advance Colorado did that 117 no tax, we couldn’t raise fees without a vote. They got outspotted by the Democrats. So why didn’t they go back to the drawing board? They should have wrote it right the first time, but why don’t they try it again and go, no, we can’t raise fees without a vote.
SPEAKER 04 :
Great question. That’s a great question, Brad. We should. We should.
SPEAKER 07 :
I’ll let you go.
SPEAKER 04 :
Brad, all great questions. Thank you. I always enjoy when you call. I appreciate it. It’s a great conversation and went a little longer with you before the break, but I appreciate you calling. I mean that sincerely. Golden Eagle Financial coming up next. Al did a great interview of late. Listen in. Find him, by the way, at klzradio.com.
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TJ here with KLZ and Al Smith of Golden Eagle Financial. And Al, I have a question for you. I’ve been putting money away for a while in a savings account or maybe a couple of investment accounts, but what am I doing wrong and what can you do better than that?
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Well, I think a savings account is important because all the financial gurus, including myself, agree you should have three to six months savings that you have ready liquid access to. But retirement planning is a bit more long-term and And it’s a bit more strategic. We want to take a look at the sum of money you’ll need way into the future. And we want to look at how that money can last by providing you income for as long as you live.
SPEAKER 12 :
What kind of planning or strategy do you provide for folks with that that have a big savings but haven’t made that next step?
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, that’s a good question. If someone has a large amount in savings, one of the things I do is we have a conversation about their risk tolerance. Nobody’s comfortable losing money, but having money in the market over a long period of time is a mechanism to accumulate wealth. And so we talk about the different levels of risk and the different products that are available. And we don’t put everybody into one box, but I have an enormous assortment of financial products. And it’s not that there’s good ones or bad ones. It’s there are some that are more appropriate for some people, but not for others.
SPEAKER 12 :
And that sounds excellent. How can folks get in touch with you for that meeting?
SPEAKER 05 :
You can reach me at 303-744-1128. And if I’m not there, it goes to voicemail, but I return my voicemails promptly. And we could have a conversation in the office. If you live a considerable distance away, we can have a long phone conversation or a Zoom call, whichever you would prefer.
SPEAKER 12 :
And as always, you can find him at klzradio.com slash money. Al, thanks so much for joining us today.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, thank you, TJ. Thanks for the conversation.
SPEAKER 12 :
You bet.
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This is Rush to Reason on KLZ 560.
SPEAKER 04 :
All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 5CC. Okay, got a couple of text messages on my comments about Demarius Thomas. So I might as well further that. And I don’t want to get super in-depth because this isn’t the radio program for that. We don’t get into a lot of theological things and so on. And again, this is not really the right place and time to do so. Let me at least give you my, you know, 10,000-foot overview of how those sorts of things work. And this is just me. Everybody has their own beliefs. I get that. But I think you really have to look at Scripture to really get your belief system correct when it comes to, quote-unquote, the afterlife. And I really say that kind of tongue-in-cheek because, you know— afterlife meaning those that are Christians that are saved, where they go versus those that are not. And I guess that’s what people say when they say afterlife. I look at it as a continual of life because that’s how I see things. It’s really not an afterlife. It’s just a continuation of our life, of our soul. Now, I’m somebody that doesn’t believe in ghosts, period, period. Now, do I believe there can be demonic things that happen, and people might even think that that’s a ghost they saw, but in fact it’s what demons can do and so on? I think demons can do all sorts of things and frankly don’t get near enough credit for the things they do because people credit other things happening instead of that. Because Satan is very much a force, evil is definitely out there, and he can use that evil in all sorts of ways. So I firmly believe that a lot of things people think are quote-unquote supernatural are demonic instead. Let me start there. I also am somebody that doesn’t believe that anybody that’s ever gone on to heaven is looking down upon us. Nowhere in Scripture does it talk about that. That is a huge misconception. And I’m not going to get into all the different faiths that are out there from Catholics to Protestants and so on. I just don’t believe that that happens because, again, it’s not scriptural. And I’ve talked about this in the past. I have my own belief on where we actually go and the timing of and so on. I’m not going to get into that today, but I’m not somebody that believes that somebody can be in heaven and look down upon us. You’re not finding that anywhere in Scripture. So to me, that’s a feel-good measure that even a lot of preachers get into because it’s easy at a funeral to say that so-and-so is now going to be there and be your comforter and so on. And by the way, I think they take away from God and Christ himself Holy Spirit in doing so, because frankly, we should be looking at the Trinity, God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Spirit, for that comfort and what we should be looking at for approval, not some dead loved one. We shouldn’t be living our lives for a dead loved one, is my point. We should be doing that for Christ and God and the Holy Spirit working through us to make that happen. That’s what we should be using. Not some, again, not some dead loved one that went on to be with him or went somewhere else, depending upon what their faith was. So I’m not somebody that believes in that. You know, just my dad passed last Thursday. Do I think he’s up there looking down on me right now? No, he is not. Did my dad go to heaven? Yes, I believe so. He was a believer. Taught us the same things. Passed that on. So no, I don’t think he’s up in heaven looking down upon us. I have my own belief on how all that works, but no, he is not. And some would say, well, geez, John, that sounds really, you know, that sounds kind of cruel in a way. No, if you went to my whole explanation of where I think he’s at and how it all works, you’d understand my thought process. And again, it’s too deep of a subject to get into on radio, but no, he’s not looking down upon me. And no, I’m not going to live my life for his approval. I live my life for God’s approval, not my dad’s approval. And my fear of a lot of even pastors, preachers, priests, and so on, when people die and there’s a funeral and a service of sort, the whole message is, in a lot of cases, this is what this person is now going to be doing in your life. It’s wrong. Because now people are looking to the dead loved one instead of God himself, which I think is completely wrong. Sorry, any of you pastors and preachers that are listening to me, if you do that, stop, because you’re giving false hope. I don’t know how else to say it. You’re giving people hope in a person that has gone on before them, not in Christ and God himself. And that’s the problem I have with that whole viewpoint of somebody has died and now they’re looking down upon you, because no, they’re not. In fact, I think it’s really anti-scriptural, and in a lot of ways I think it’s anti-God. It’s anti-Christ, because you’re looking at the wrong thing then at that point in time in your life versus what you should be looking at. So I’ll leave it at that. That’s a deep subject, which, again, I don’t have really the right time and place to do that. That’s really more of a longer, might even be a podcast-type topic that maybe Neil and Bob and I can all get into and get their opinions, because they’re very spiritually-minded as well and understand—Neil’s an ex-pastor even— I really, again, this whole DT thing to Marius Thomas in 33 is the age that he died at, and that was a score yesterday, and he must have, no, he wasn’t there. It’s not how things work. Do I believe it’s a coincidence? No, I just believe it’s a game and the numbers add up. That’s how I look at it. It had nothing to do with him and him being inducted into the Ring of Fame that day and so on. If he hadn’t been inducted, would it still have been 33 to 32? Yes. Yeah, that I firmly believe. Is it a coincidence that we inducted him yesterday and that was the score? I don’t necessarily believe in coincidences. It’s just the way the score added up. That’s the way that I would explain what happened yesterday as far as all that goes. So, all right, let’s do this. Geno’s Auto Service coming up next. If you’ve got anything that you need done to your vehicle as we head into the fall-winter months, we’re in fall right now, winter’s not that far away, give Geno’s a call today, genosautoservice.com, and Geno starts with a J.
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All right. And I’ve had a couple of messages on the whole, you know, Jew thing and the Jew haters and so on. And, you know, some are saying, you know, I just hate what they do. You can hate what they do, but don’t hate them. For example, I hate what the left does. I don’t hate lefties. I hate what they do and what they stand for. And I think that’s the difference between our side and them, by the way. Their side would just soon annihilate all of us. Just be done with those conservatives. They’re a bunch of knuckleheads. Shoot them all like you did Charlie Kirk. That’s what the left would say. I would never say that about them. I cannot like what they’re doing but still love them because I know that they need to go to the same place I’m going. They need salvation just like anybody else does. So I don’t hate them, but I hate what they stand for and what they do. And that’s an absolute right way to look at things. And you can do both. Problem is, most people that hate Israel hate the Jews as well. In fact, they’re going to blame the Jews for everything that’s happened throughout, you know, the beginning of time. You know, our banking system and on down the line. I mean, I’ve heard all of the stupid conspiracy theories all through time, and it’s just that. Conspiracy theories. I mean, you can go through almost anything out there and come up with some sort of a excuse as to why that happened. True or not? But that’s not how it’s supposed to be done. And I think some people just have a hard time just accepting that not everything can be fully explained. And some people really struggle with that. I don’t. Sometimes there’s just no explanation. It is what it is. And maybe for me, because I’ve worked around mechanical things my entire life, and I’ve seen things at times that, for example, will break, and you look at it and you think, how in the world did that happen? And I get it. There’s probably a logical explanation as to why, but sometimes there isn’t. Sometimes it’s just like, you know what, it just is what it is. And maybe for me, because I’ve done that my entire life, Whereas at times it’s like, you know, I don’t know why that did what it did, but it did. And I can accept that and move on. There are people out there, though, and I think certain personality types struggle with that because they have to have a finality to whatever it is. And so they’re just always looking for that. Now, I also think there’s wackadoodles out there that are trying to find everything they possibly can so they get more likes, clicks, and whatever. Candace Owens. There are people like her that, you know, she is grasping at straws to try to figure out a way to make herself relevant. And she’s got a certain amount of followers that will buy into whatever it is she says, keeping her somewhat relevant. But she’s dying on the vine. I’m sorry to say she is. She was a very relevant person at one time and has ruined her reputation. She’s no longer relevant. Not in my view. Stu, you know, who Brad was talking about, some of those types of individuals, I find them very irrelevant. I’m sorry, they just are. But I do think that there are those people that they try to find relevancy. And again, a blind squirrel can find a nut every now and again. So sometimes they’ll even come up with something that’s actually factual. But at the end of the day, they’re irrelevant when it’s all said and done. John, you’re next.
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John, I’m going to ask you a question that I’ve never in my 64 years on this planet figured out. How can a Christian hate a Jewish person when our religion is based on Judaism?
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, we’re grafted in. I mean, Scripture’s very clear on that, John, that we are grafted in. We Gentiles have been grafted in to that original tree. That’s a great question. I don’t know, John.
SPEAKER 17 :
It makes no sense. I want to say it’s satanic. It’s Satan working to try to get people to hate each other, but…
SPEAKER 04 :
I don’t know, John, if I can necessarily, now that you say it that way, I don’t know that I can disagree with that. I think there’s certain things that get implanted into some people’s heads, and all of a sudden, you know, just because a particular group of people does something that maybe isn’t 100% – pardon the pun here – kosher, but because it’s not 100% kosher, they’re now against the entire tribe, if you would, and you can’t do that. You and I both know that. You can’t do that.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, you can’t. It’s just crazy. I commented on Friday when you weren’t here to Andy that I was hoping the Giants would just be respectable yesterday.
SPEAKER 04 :
They were very respectable, John.
SPEAKER 17 :
So I watched the whole game. Here’s my takeaways. I don’t know what Richard said. I was in a meeting. No, go ahead. You’re fine. So you can’t miss extra points.
SPEAKER 04 :
No, you cannot. That was one thing they missed early on in the game, as you know.
SPEAKER 17 :
Right. You can’t chase that extra point trying for two-minute conversions that early in the game.
SPEAKER 04 :
That I agree with as well. Right. And keep in mind, too, though, there was also a fourth down and goal that we could have done a field goal and shouldn’t have to where we might have even had a whole different outcome at that point because we would have put points on the board and we didn’t, John. So we screwed up, too.
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And John Madden used to always say that. you never take points off the board and not going on a fourth and two, going for it, that’s taking points off the board. Your kicker is a great kicker. He’s not going to miss that chip-shot field goal yesterday on that fourth and two. But the other thing is, and this is the thing, Jackson Dart yesterday made a rookie mistake when he threw that interception. If he eats that ball… and makes the Broncos go the length of the field after it changes the whole concept of the game. So I’m taking good things, and some of my buddies that are Giants fans are losing their minds today, but I’m taking good things away from it other than the fact that our regular kickers on IR and we need to find somebody else because this kid can’t kick. I mean, he missed two extra points, and that should never happen in the NFL. True, true. Because he missed one, if I remember right, I think he missed one against the Eagles, too.
SPEAKER 04 :
Oh, yeah, and you’d know more about that than I would.
SPEAKER 17 :
I think he did. I can’t remember fully. So that was my takeaways from the game, but I just wanted to comment on that. I didn’t hear what Richard said. I heard something. Bronco talk today that they were like, that was the greatest game they ever saw, and I was like, what?
SPEAKER 04 :
No, it wasn’t. That was the most awful game I’ve ever saw. Sorry. I would say that differently. Best fourth quarter probably most people have ever seen, but no, that was the worst game I think I’ve ever seen, John.
SPEAKER 17 :
You know, as a Bronco fan, I would agree with you. As a Giants fan, I enjoyed the first three quarters, and I was just hoping, oh, and the last thing was when they got the ball back to go for the field goal at the end How do the Giants, and this is where I am going to beat the coaches up, with your best players on defense or your defensive linemen, do you only have two down linemen on first down?
SPEAKER 04 :
And by the way, they had been pretty well at taking care of our offensive line because we had some holes there, as you know, and they had been pretty good at exploiting those. Why did you give that up? I don’t know.
SPEAKER 17 :
Right. I mean, well, Bill Parcells, when he was coaching the Giants, used to say it best.
SPEAKER 04 :
When you go in to prevent defense, you prevent the win. That’s true. And by the way, I would agree with him on that 100%. I hate that about teams, John.
SPEAKER 17 :
I would have, if I was coaching or if you were coaching, I would have blitzed on first down. No, I agree with you. I would have blitzed on first down and make Knicks beat you. Yes. Not give him all the time in the world.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, so…
SPEAKER 04 :
And I get it. What they’re trying to do is shorten up the field because it’s always tough when you get to the red zone to actually make a touchdown at that point. So the teams will play in a defensive manner that they’ll give up some points, or sorry, some yards, but at the end of the day still not let them score. I get it. I get the analogy, but I don’t like it.
SPEAKER 17 :
I don’t like it either, especially when your best defensive players are defensive linemen and you don’t have them on the field.
SPEAKER 04 :
And they had exploited us all day long.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, I would have.
SPEAKER 04 :
I mean, I was watching the game. I mean, I was there, John. Literally, they were exploiting us. You were there? Yeah, I was there, sat next to a Giants fan, by the way, who was a very nice gentleman, by the way. And at the end of the day, yeah, I mean, they exploited us all game long. I don’t know why they didn’t keep doing that. They should have.
SPEAKER 17 :
So just a point, because I’ve never been to a Broncos game since we moved here. I don’t know why. I just never have. Yeah. How many Giant fans were in the stands? Quite a few. It seemed like… Quite a few.
SPEAKER 04 :
I mean, not as many as what, you know, if you get a Green Bay game here, it’s, you know, it’s about 50-50, unfortunately. But for the Giants, it was probably 10%, I would say.
SPEAKER 17 :
Oh, okay. Well, that’s a… It’s a pretty good stand. I mean, it’s a pretty high number. And was it a full crowd at the start of the game?
SPEAKER 04 :
Oh, yes. Absolutely.
SPEAKER 17 :
Okay, so one last question, John, and I know we started on a different subject. No, you’re fine. You weren’t one of those people that left in the third quarter, were you?
SPEAKER 04 :
I actually did, not because of that. I had some things at home I needed to get done before dark that I just didn’t have any choice, and that was going to be my plan.
SPEAKER 17 :
really you know all along and and we had went early to meet some other folks for tailgate and some things like that so i’d been there since about 11 30 and i had stuff i needed to get to i would have done that no matter what oh okay okay but i i don’t understand fans that leave until it i would now if i was a fan and my team was losing by that much halfway through the fourth quarter i might have left but not at the beginning of the quarter and it on tv they were showing it seemed like When the Giants got it to 26, it was like they headed for the doors like an exodus. I don’t know. All right, John, you have a good rest of the week.
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Hey, no, you as well, John. I appreciate it very much. Thanks so much for the phone call. Let’s take a break. Come back. I’ve got a couple of text messages I want to comment on that, frankly, I think are deserving of. I’ve got one individual commenting on some of my comments about Demarius Thomas and so on, and I want to add something to that that I hope would help this particular conversation. individual as well. So we’ll come back and do that. Cub Creek Heating and Air Conditioning, again, $56 off tune-up special when it comes to your furnace. Give them a call today. Go to klzradio.com.
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All right, text message came in. This, by the way, is a texter that I text a lot and I feel a good relationship through texting. Never met on an individual basis, but really feel like I have a great relationship via the text line. And I have a lot of them, a lot of you, and I appreciate each and every one of you. I really mean that. So this text came in. My best good first cousin died in a hunting accident two years ago tomorrow. Tomorrow is also my birthday. By the way, happy birthday. I will say I do think that I’m cursed. I’ve always hated my birthday now, and I really hate it and dread it. To your point, I need a definitive variable, a verifiable explanation as to why it happened on my birthday. Now, here’s what I will say. I can’t give you, nor can anyone, give you a definitive answer as to why that happened on your birthday. I don’t know. Only one person being God himself knows that answer. I don’t know. I will say this. No, you’re not cursed. I can say that definitively. That I do know. You’re not cursed. You might feel like it. And by the way, I will say this. That feeling of being cursed, that is demonic. That comes from Satan. That is not coming from God himself. I can assure you of that. That I know as much as I’m talking on the air right now. That is not coming from him. That comes from the evil side of the aisle. So that I do know for a fact. Now, I also know that things happen because we are in a fallen world. Death is a part of living because we’re in a fallen world. The fall of man in the Garden of Eden is why we all have to face death. And it happens to each and every one of us. There’s two things that are a surety in life. I know it’s kind of a joke, but it’s true. Death and taxes. Those are the two guarantees in life. Okay? Outside of that, I can’t tell you what the guarantees are. But I also know, in this case, you’re not cursed. That I can tell you definitively. Now, why did that particular event happen on your birthday? Tell me why my mom died two days before my birthday. Okay? I can’t answer that. Okay? I have no answer for that. Does it put a shadow of whatever on your own birthday when things like that happen? If you allow it, yes. It doesn’t have to be. It doesn’t have to be. That shadow, by the way, isn’t coming again from God. That shadow comes from Satan. That I do know. God’s not putting a shadow on you because of somebody’s death. And again, for believers, death is something to, and I know it’s hard to say this, and I’m not trying to be coy when I say this, but if you’re a believer, death is something to celebrate, if the other person’s a believer, and not dread and not regret. Because as believers, we all know the end. And that part of funeral services I do agree with and I do get and I think should be restated many, many, many times. The whole they’re going to look down on you, I talked about that already. No, I don’t agree with those messages that come up in funerals because that’s not the way to look at things. To know where we all go at the end, and I’m sorry, I didn’t mean to turn today’s program into what happens after we die, but with my dad just passing and all of that, some of this is very, I guess, very appropriate for me in my life right now, and it’s even a reminder to some of my loved ones that are probably listening to the program right now. We know where we go. That’s the plus side. That’s the positive side of dying when you’re a believer. Case of my dad. I know her. I know her. I’ll see my dad again. Believe that wholeheartedly. So why do bad things happen on certain dates? Like in this case, why did your cousin die on your birthday? That I can’t answer. I don’t know. Again, no more than I can answer. Why did my mom die when she died? It’s a date. I think that’s probably the best way to look at it. It’s just a date. There’s just no meaning to it whatsoever. Yes, it’s your birthday, but it is just a date at the end of the day. And no, you’re not cursed because somebody passed on or around your birthday. That’s not how it works. Again, that one I can guarantee you. So if there’s any encouragement I can give to you is quit looking at it that way. Stop thinking that you’re cursed just because a person that you were really close to died on that day. Again, it’s a date at the end of the day, and as believers, we know where we’re going, and we should celebrate that fact and not look at it any other way. That’s how I look at it. Now, everybody handles death differently. My wife always reminds me of that. I’m somebody that looks at it the way I just explained. And I don’t have a lot of downtime crying and going through all of that. Those emotions for me, those were all Thursday night. I got through that. Friday was Friday, and then off we go. And I know not everybody deals with things that way. It’s me, and I’m weird, and I know that. Charlie knows that. My wife knows that. I get that. Some people take longer to grieve. I understand that. I’m not that person. You know, I had people texting me that, man, y’all just take the weekend even next week off with everything just happened. I’m like, shoot, no, I’m going to be at work. I’m going to be on the air Saturday. I mean, I took Friday off. It was preplanned because I already had a funeral. If that hadn’t been the case, I’d have been here with Andy on Friday. Now, as it turned out, it worked out well because I was able to get some other things done with my dad and other things and some things I needed to get taken care of and clean out his room and do some things that way. So it worked out well and it gave me extra time that I wouldn’t have had otherwise. And I needed that because that worked out well. But at the end of the day, no, I don’t need to take the week off. I mean, I’m okay. And for those of you that are always, you know, that are, by the way, graciously asking me, how am I doing? Am I okay? All of that. You know what? I appreciate that. And I mean that sincerely. I really do. I’ve got great, great, great listeners. You guys are fantastic. Guys and gals, because it’s both. And I mean that. And I love each and every one of you. And I appreciate the support you guys give me in times like that. I really do. Many of you were very supportive when you heard what had happened last week. And I appreciate that greatly. Believe me, I do. But in this case, I want to give at least some comfort to you that texted and think you’re cursed because of somebody dying on your birthday. You’re not. That I can assure you. You are not. Not how it works. Again, as much as I’m sitting here talking on air, I can assure you of that. That is not how that end of things works at all. So and again, I do appreciate each and every one of you. You guys have been super supportive over the last few days. And I mean that sincerely. But no, I am good. Family is good. We’re doing very well. My dad was at a point where we’re just I’ll be straight up honest. He was at the end. and his quality of life wasn’t there anyways, and it is now. That’s probably the best way for me to say that, and that’s exactly how we are all looking at it as a family. But again, I appreciate the thoughts and prayers that you all have given us, and I mean that sincerely. Veteran Windows and Doors is next. Dave Bancroft, who will help you when it comes to your window and door purchases. He takes out the middleman, therefore saving you thousands, in some cases, I’m not exaggerating, in some cases tens, of thousands of dollars based upon other quotes you might get from other window and door companies that are out there trying to sell you the same thing. And just taking the middleman out saves you all of that money. Give Dave a call today. 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All right, that’s wrapping up today. I appreciate you guys all listening. Tomorrow, Andy and I will – I didn’t get a chance to do this today. I wanted to talk more about the forum that went on up in the Fort Collins area this past weekend with some of our gubernatorial candidates here on the conservative side. Didn’t get a chance to really put a lot of time into that. Andy and I can do a little bit of that tomorrow, so rest assured I’ll get to that. And again, had a question earlier from Brad asking me, who am I supporting right now? No one. there’s a lot of things that have to shake out between now and the primary and will. So with that, we’ll be back tomorrow. Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
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