SPEAKER 08 : 0:00

I can’t hide myself I don’t expect you to understand I just hope I can explain What it’s like to be a man It’s a lonely

SPEAKER 02 : 0:17

Guys Perspective, where they discuss real-life topics that men today are dealing with. Whether married, single parent, or just single, we invite you to call into this live program with your comments and questions. And here they are.

SPEAKER 06 : 0:34

How’s everybody doing today? This is KLZ 560 AM and you can reach us at 303-477-5600. Again, you can reach us at 303-477-5600. How’s it going, guys? Hey, pretty good. Good to be here. Pretty excited, man. Beautiful day. Before we get started, I just want to say if anybody’s looking for a church, the Upper Room is… arms wide open welcoming everybody you can always reach out to the upper room at 720-532-4638 again that’s 720-532-4638 again we’d like to announce one of our sponsors it’s let’s paint pottery studio at 8410 wadsworth boulevard unit g arvada colorado 8003 they’re open every day except tuesday and they would love just love you to stop by and have a good time you and your family and again that’s let’s paint pottery studio um one other thing before we get started april may may 31st we’re having a best friends man’s best friend’s day like just go to our facebook page post your dog best looking dog’s gonna win us some zeddies two people can eat for free what happened to the jersey man what happened to that i’m gonna i’m mentioning that too and we’re also the winner’s gonna get a jersey a bo nicks jersey ain’t gonna be signed you’re gonna have to do that yourself but you’ll get it and again you can reach us at 303-477-5600 let’s dive into this i just got a quick question okay Because I wanted to start my own janitorial business. So what would an advertisement sound like if I was like, Do you need a janitor? Dude, flush the toilet. Use the right toilet paper. No, if you heard me on the radio say, do you need a janitor, would you call me?

SPEAKER 05 : 2:38

With that voice, yeah.

SPEAKER 06 : 2:40

Yeah, with that voice I would. Today we’re going to talk about swatting. If anybody’s ever had their home swatted… You just give us a call and we’d like to hear your story about it. It does. As a matter of fact, so in a guy’s perspective, we talk about everything. We encompass all aspects of life. We talk about what’s happened to us, what’s happened to you.

SPEAKER 04 : 3:03

Business, relationships.

SPEAKER 06 : 3:06

Right. We’ll talk about the 14th Amendment. We’ll talk about gun control. We’ll talk about Black Lives Matter. Anything. You name it, we talk about it. But today, we’re talking about swatting.

SPEAKER 04 : 3:14

Swatting.

SPEAKER 06 : 3:15

All right. I can relate to this, people. You had an experience? I did, actually. So, like, three years ago, I’m at work, and I get a phone call from an officer, and he was like, hey, man, I need you to get to your house. And I’m like, why do I need to get to my house and get off work? He was like, well, you just need to come down here. I’m like, okay. So I drive all the way from Winter Park. I get to my house, and it’s trashed. I mean, they’re ransacking the place, man.

SPEAKER 04 : 3:52

I’m mad.

SPEAKER 06 : 3:53

I mean, you got SWAT members out there.

SPEAKER 04 : 3:55

These dudes got… Like full regalia. Oh, yeah. Busting out windows.

SPEAKER 06 : 3:59

Yeah, it was the craziest thing I’d ever seen.

SPEAKER 04 : 4:01

Knocking down doors.

SPEAKER 06 : 4:02

Yeah, I mean, it looked like full-on meth lab, you know. Oh, wait, wait, wait.

SPEAKER 05 : 4:07

You were breaking bad.

SPEAKER 04 : 4:08

You were…

SPEAKER 06 : 4:09

Yeah, it was breaking bad all the way around, man.

SPEAKER 05 : 4:12

Dude, the irony is it was near Halloween, right? So that was your Halloween. I mean, what are your neighbors thinking at the time?

SPEAKER 06 : 4:19

I mean, if I’m looking out the window and I’m seeing this going on, I’m like, dude, we moved to the wrong area. Yeah, it’s crazy. It’s beyond crazy. That’s funny you guys mentioned Halloween. There were two little dudes riding their bike. I’m like mowing the lawn, right? One day my house is all boarded up. This is some crazy stuff, man. This is stuff you can’t make up. The front door is all boarded up. The windows are all boarded up. Two little dudes on their bicycle come rolling by. They stop, they look at the house, and they’re like, whoa. And I’m like, yeah. They’re like, that’s a real haunted house right there. I mean, come on, man. Could you imagine being 10 years old? These dudes, not only did they say that’s a real haunted house, they were like, that’s the first house we’re trick-or-treating at, right?

SPEAKER 04 : 5:07

And hey, people, just so you know, he lives in a nice neighborhood. His house shouldn’t be boarded up like a madhouse. Yeah, that’s a nice neighborhood. Yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER 06 : 5:15

I got a beautiful home. So make a long story short, people. I get down to my house and I pull up and SWAT team’s there. Investigators are there. Everybody and their brother’s there. I’m like walking in my house. I ain’t got a front door. I ain’t got no windows. All my furniture is just cut open. Like, I mean, it’s crazy. But it gets even better. I turn around, walk out to the garage. They’re going through my car. They’re taking the car apart. I’m like, what’s going on, man? This is some real SWAT stuff, right? My neighbors are evacuating. They’re peeling out. They got tire tracks going down the neighborhood. Like, it’s crazy. Like… So if your house ever gets swatted or raided, you’re going to know what I’m talking about. It was a bad deal.

SPEAKER 04 : 6:16

Does this happen to people?

SPEAKER 05 : 6:18

All the time. Actually, there’s an uptake on that. As of like last week, I’ve heard about three or four swattings that have happened where they basically do like they’ll send something electronically, like an email. And then this one person that had happened as a podcaster, dude, God, that’s bad news for us. Rushed at 1 a.m., 1 a.m. in the morning.

SPEAKER 06 : 6:40

Oh, yeah, they’ll come at any time. You know, if your house gets swatted, you’re going to know you got swatted.

SPEAKER 05 : 6:46

Good Lord, but think how dangerous that stuff is, though, because that’s almost like sending a hitman to someone when you think about it, but they’re using the full force of the law.

SPEAKER 06 : 6:55

Let me describe to you guys what these SWAT members look like. Like, these dudes weren’t just regular cops. These guys were in full-on body armor, right? Like, one homeboy had a shield. His dog had body armor now. Are you crazy?

SPEAKER 04 : 7:11

It was crazy. The dog had body armor. Did they have the drones and stuff to fly through?

SPEAKER 06 : 7:17

Yeah, so they had… Okay, let me paint the scenario. So they had the whole block taped off. Not only did they have the whole block taped off, but they had, like, a – I don’t know. This must be where they keep drones or something. Like, they had, like, a box van with the door open. They had drones in there, little computers. I ain’t making this stuff up, people. Like, I saw all this firsthand. It happened to me. And – I pull up and the SWAT guys were standing there like submachine guns. It was the craziest stuff I’d ever seen. And when the SWAT goes into your house or when you get SWATed, it’s a little obsessive. This is a problem I had with being SWATed. Let’s get down to business. If you’re going to turn around and raid somebody’s house or swat somebody’s house, make sure it’s the right house, first off. Don’t turn around and- Or the right people, right?

SPEAKER 05 : 8:15

Or the right people. Because that’s what happened with you.

SPEAKER 06 : 8:17

Right, right. So the thing is, is- The problem I have with it is when they get excessive. There’s no point in ripping open couches.

SPEAKER 04 : 8:27

Yeah, unnecessary.

SPEAKER 06 : 8:28

Breaking TVs. I’m so curious.

SPEAKER 04 : 8:31

What were they looking for?

SPEAKER 06 : 8:32

Exactly. What I think happens is when you’re getting swatted, I think they’re looking for either drugs. In that case, I don’t do drugs, but they thought there were drugs, so they’re looking for drugs.

SPEAKER 05 : 8:51

um so i i and i could only say drugs because what was the point of the dogs otherwise so and that’s kind of scary too because when you think about it is that another way of trying to you know throw anything at the wall and see what sticks like basically let’s just say that even though it wasn’t you they were looking for or you’re you know um If they found drugs, then now are you liable for that? Are you going to go, you know, hypothetically speaking?

SPEAKER 06 : 9:18

You’re asking a really good question.

SPEAKER 04 : 9:20

Hey, I’m skipping ahead to the end because I know the story already, but didn’t they plan on you?

SPEAKER 06 : 9:26

Oh, yeah. So that’s another thing. Listen, people, I’m totally for law enforcement. I think cops get the short end of the stick. Number one, I think they’re underpaid.

SPEAKER 04 : 9:38

Yeah, protect and serve. Yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER 06 : 9:39

They protect and serve.

SPEAKER 04 : 9:41

They deal with the scum.

SPEAKER 06 : 9:43

They do. And you know what’s sad about it is they’re human beings. They make mistakes.

SPEAKER 04 : 9:47

Now check.

SPEAKER 06 : 9:48

If your house gets swatted, it’s a mistake. Brock. They’re human beings. Well, are you thinking it’s a mistake when they’re not reimbursing you for the destruction that they caused on your house? Well, they will. Your insurance is going to cover everything.

SPEAKER 01 : 10:00

Your insurance is going to cover, but not the cops.

SPEAKER 06 : 10:02

Yeah, but they’re human beings. So if you don’t have insurance on your house, what’s going to happen? You’re going to have to pay for it all? No, no, no. The police force will take care of it. They’re going to make it right. But they’re humans. They make mistakes. Yeah, we understand that. So here’s where cops get the bad rap, right? Because everybody in social media nowadays has a camera. And so if one cop does something wrong… The other 500 that are doing something right, the one bad apple makes everybody look bad.

SPEAKER 05 : 10:33

Well, let’s just be real. Under the last administration, I mean, look how they demonized the police. For sure. They demonized anybody that was in law enforcement. Right. In fact, it was like the criminal that was recognized, like, let’s just, you know, hopefully I don’t offend anybody, George Floyd.

SPEAKER 06 : 10:50

for sure okay but it goes way back before that and we can hold on guys we can and if anybody wants to call in to 303-477-5600 we can talk about the george floyd and it goes way back to ronnie but what no no no but what i’m saying what i’m saying is we can talk we can talk about it because we got a black dude on our show from chicago who’s a good man so we can we can talk about all these things we’re not just but shy town isn’t here today No, but still, we’re going to talk about these topics like you guys are saying, George Floyd. What happened to George Floyd? It’s a sad thing. It was. But you can’t scrutinize every cop across America because one bad thing happened.

SPEAKER 04 : 11:34

Unless them guys were on that SWAT force that wrecked your house. Point the finger. Point the finger.

SPEAKER 06 : 11:42

But you see what I’m saying? My point is, even though that happened to me, I still think every cop out there is trying to do good.

SPEAKER 05 : 11:49

Not every cop. I mean, look, I’m not going to be devil’s advocate, but I do have friends that are law enforcement officers, right? But with that said, I also do work for people that are a little questionable in their practices. And this is an assumption that I’ve made because, like you said, they are human. And I took a criminal justice class. I remember thinking, yeah, this would be really cool to be a cop because, you know, my… you know, family, you know, were cops. Yeah, my dad was a cop for years. Yeah, yeah, exactly. 25 years. And guess what? After I learned about, like, all the paperwork that had to be done and stuff, I just said, nope, this is not my forte.

SPEAKER 06 : 12:24

Here’s the problem with being a cop nowadays. Is cops are still making the same kind of pay my dad got when he was a cop in the 70s. They’re doing better now. Well, they’re doing better, but it’s still so… You make more than a cop. You make more than a cop. I make more than a cop. You make more than a cop.

SPEAKER 05 : 12:40

Beatrizzle makes more than a cop. Truth in the booth here.

SPEAKER 06 : 12:43

And to tell you the truth is that is not true. Okay. You do not make more than a cop. Outside the truth guy, he don’t make more than a cop. But the point I’m making is cops don’t make enough. Firefighters don’t make enough. EMTs don’t make enough.

SPEAKER 05 : 12:58

Hey, I’m going to say one thing. If I was going to choose to be in the profession, and I know every cop will vouch for this. I’d be a firefighter. And to all you firefighters, I appreciate all you guys do, but my buddy’s a firefighter. And, man, that’s a different experience. Oh, it’s a cool profession. It’s a super cool profession.

SPEAKER 06 : 13:16

Well, now that we’re talking about it, I’d actually join the SWAT team. Sounds kind of fun to break in your house and destroy it. But that’s what I’m saying. So when you hear all these negative things about cops, and I’m talking about my home got swatted. They took my guns and I never got them back. And you never will.

SPEAKER 04 : 13:36

Never will. And I never will. They’re going to be used on another spot.

SPEAKER 06 : 13:42

See, man, now that hits to the core, man. That’s some bull crap right there. That hits to the core. How are you going to go into some dude’s house, take their guns and not give them back their guns? But leave the bullets! But leave the bullets! Did you try to get them back? I tried like five or six times.

SPEAKER 04 : 13:59

I mean, I went down to… They left all your ammo, but took the… Now’s a good time to talk about the plan.

SPEAKER 06 : 14:04

Yeah, here’s another crazy thing. And, you know, like I said, I stand behind every police officer there is. For sure. But this was garbage what happened next. They’re going to turn around and leave a black card there, some cash there, and expect me to go and spend the money and use a card with an unlimited amount. Like as if I’m stupid enough to be some criminal or something. Dude, why didn’t you let me have that? Seeing the house broken up, I was tempted to use that gun. Didn’t they leave marijuana, too? Oh, they left all kinds of stuff behind. Are you kidding me? You know another crazy part about it is when you live someplace long enough, you know who’s in your neighborhood. You know who lives in your neighborhood. Yeah. What crazy part about it is after that happened, they had police officers going back and forth. Like they had some old lady. Yeah. They had some old lady who was like 80, you know, with her cane sitting by the bench by my back door. And I’m like. What in the world? I’m like, listen, guys. Did your neighbors give you a strange eye?

SPEAKER 05 : 15:13

Oh, I would have.

SPEAKER 06 : 15:14

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER 04 : 15:15

Tony Montana now.

SPEAKER 06 : 15:16

I mean, you see something like that, you’re thinking something strange is going on over there. Like, you know, you’re talking with your parents. Well, that’s what I’m saying. I was so mad. I walk in and I was like, man, y’all done tore my stuff up. I’m like, you’re looking for the wrong person. I’m Brock. Like, I ain’t even who you’re looking for. I’m on the mortgage. I’m like, I’m. It looks like a meth lab here, and they were like no I don’t I was like the pictures Windows destroyed every window they busted out every window and what was the purpose on that?

SPEAKER 05 : 15:47

I’m so curious like why did they? like If you’re a cop and you know anything about this, I’m so curious if you would give us a call.

SPEAKER 04 : 15:55

Yeah, somebody’s going to call in and be like, yeah, I was on that bus. Well, here’s the thing.

SPEAKER 06 : 15:59

That’s what I’m saying. Are you at 5460? The thing that gets me is why be so excessive?

SPEAKER 05 : 16:09

You know what I’m saying?

SPEAKER 04 : 16:10

Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.

SPEAKER 05 : 16:13

Hey, you know what? I would say that. I’d probably be that obsessed with you. Like, hey, man, we’re on a roll. Just bust it all out.

SPEAKER 04 : 16:19

Yeah, man, that’s initiation, man. Hey, you got to go through this.

SPEAKER 06 : 16:24

So do you think that happened? A new guy was there in the SWAT team and they’re like, hey, buddy, just go ham on it all.

SPEAKER 05 : 16:29

Break everything.

SPEAKER 06 : 16:30

I mean, it had to have been something like that.

SPEAKER 05 : 16:33

Dude, it’s funny you can laugh at it.

SPEAKER 06 : 16:35

Yeah, I laugh at it all the time. But I know cops got to be serious because their life’s at stake, right? But sometimes you come across a cop that actually has that attitude, right? That attitude that they can do whatever they want.

SPEAKER 05 : 16:48

And what’s the point of that?

SPEAKER 06 : 16:50

I’m just saying.

SPEAKER 05 : 16:51

Yeah. No, no, no.

SPEAKER 06 : 16:51

They do. They do.

SPEAKER 05 : 16:52

Okay. After you’ve been lied to, like probably what? 99% of the people you talk to are lying to you. Let’s just be real. Even if they’re not a criminal. Oh, I wasn’t speeding. Like, well, I clocked you out, whatever. Oh, I didn’t, you know, it must be something wrong with my odometer. That’s funny.

SPEAKER 06 : 17:07

Brian said that because I was, I was getting the emissions done on my, uh, on a vehicle one time. And this was a few years ago. And it couldn’t pass emissions because it was a hunk of junk vehicle.

SPEAKER 05 : 17:21

Was that the rig ride?

SPEAKER 06 : 17:22

Yeah. I didn’t want to say the rig ride, but fine. Now that the cat’s out of the bag, it’s the rig ride. Like, that thing was a hunk of junk. It couldn’t pass anything. But I take it to get into missions, right? I’m all pulling the plugs from it, like sensors and all, so it could pass. It didn’t work, man. Like, this thing was a hunk of junk. Like, didn’t have no shocks. It’s all bouncing up and down as you go down the road. Like, it was crazy. Hoopty. So anyway, the cop pulls me over and I was like, he’s like, Hey bro, like your tags are expired for like two years. I’m like, Oh yeah, I know that. I was like, I just came back from missions. Couldn’t pass emissions. And he was like, well, I’m gonna write you a ticket. I was like, no, didn’t you hear what I said? I just felt emissions. Here’s the mission statement. And he looked me in the face and he was like, I don’t care. I’m doing my job. You’re getting a ticket. And I looked him in the face and said, well, I don’t care. My dad used to be a cop. I’m going to plead not guilty and make your butt show up to the courthouse. Otherwise, they’re going to dismiss it. And I am letting everybody on the radio know, if you get a minor ticket for speeding, go in there and plead not guilty and make that officer show up. Because if he don’t show up. They got to drop the charge.

SPEAKER 04 : 18:31

Dude, that’s a professional tip. That’s a professional tip. What time of year was it when you got that ticket at running? Was that summertime? Yeah. Yeah, see, so you had a darker tan. Yeah. So they hit you hard.

SPEAKER 06 : 18:44

Because I am mixed, you know what I’m saying? So, yes, I was a lot darker than in the wintertime.

SPEAKER 04 : 18:50

No, man. How are you going to blow that card on me, man? Hey, I’ve been flexing my white privilege for a long time, man, because I remember rollerblading through Bear Valley Mall one time. We got pulled over by the cops, and they were like, you’re not supposed to be doing this. And I’m unstrapping my rollerblades, and the cop says, or I said, he said take those things off and i said i said all right fool and he’s like that’s officer dude to you and i was like i didn’t call you dude i called you fool and he let me ride and skate well he didn’t let me skate but we are saying guys don’t be disrespecting cops like that okay so here’s my point here’s my point man like what i found when the cops stopped harassing me when it was when i stopped A, messing up and doing bad stuff. That’s right. And B, when I stopped having an attitude and a chip on my shoulder toward them.

SPEAKER 05 : 19:42

Right.

SPEAKER 04 : 19:43

When I had a problem with them and a beef with them, just as with anybody, then it comes back. Oh, it does.

SPEAKER 06 : 19:49

It does. I can tell story after story of… of doing wrong and, and a cop trying to him me up, you know what I’m saying?

SPEAKER 04 : 19:57

Paintballing with you and your brother. Oh my goodness.

SPEAKER 06 : 20:00

Remember we were going around.

SPEAKER 04 : 20:02

Dude. Okay. Okay.

SPEAKER 06 : 20:03

We’re just talking about, we talk about everything and anything. So throw it on out here. And then we’re talking about swatting and all this goes right along with it.

SPEAKER 04 : 20:12

This goes right along with it. Um, uh, so we’re in high school and we’re driving around. It’s me, Bri Brock, uh, Yeah, this is crazy. Tony and Cricky. And we’re shooting our paintball gun at all kinds of stuff. Well, we shoot at this one car, and it zips in and whips by and breaks on the inside of the windshield. And there was a woman. She was getting out of the car. Yeah, you messed up right there. We’re all laughing and cackling, driving back to school. And Tony had like a mohawk. So what happened was about, I don’t know, 20, 30 minutes into our class, we all get called out. We all get called down to the student advisor’s office and everything, and they start interrogating us. There were two cops there interrogating us. Remember this? Oh, I remember it. Remember this? And they were pitting us against one another, but they couldn’t find the last of the Mohicans because Tony had his Mohawk as a white boy, and they couldn’t find him. They didn’t know who had a Mohawk. Right. They thought it was an idiot.

SPEAKER 06 : 21:12

So you were shooting paintball guns at cars?

SPEAKER 04 : 21:15

You were with us?

SPEAKER 06 : 21:15

I played the fifth. I wasn’t there.

SPEAKER 04 : 21:16

You were shooting paintball.

SPEAKER 06 : 21:17

I was about to say, don’t even talk about you don’t remember shooting paintball guns. We used to do that all the time. I wasn’t there.

SPEAKER 04 : 21:24

We can tell some cool paintball stories. Fortunately, though, like back then, guys, just so you know, we didn’t have cameras that we could film this stuff and incriminate ourselves. So you can incriminate yourself.

SPEAKER 06 : 21:35

But could you imagine how many views we would have got?

SPEAKER 04 : 21:37

Right. We got a lot of views. And a visit. So here we are getting interrogated. I was getting interrogated in Hans Kaiser’s, the student advisor’s office.

SPEAKER 06 : 21:45

Dude, you remember Hans?

SPEAKER 04 : 21:46

Yeah, right? So check this out.

SPEAKER 06 : 21:48

If anybody knows who Hans is, call at 303-477-5600. Keep going.

SPEAKER 04 : 21:53

So, uh, uh, I’m, I’m getting interrogated by the cop and it’s like, it’s personal. I can sense it even at 17. I’m like, this guy, this, this is personal, man. This isn’t normal. Um, and he’s, he’s telling me that my, he said, who pulled the trigger? He said, your, your friends are going down, man. They’re going to tell on you. And I was like, it’s my gun. I pulled the trigger. Oh, he didn’t like that, dude. He opened the Hans Kaiser student advisor door, looked out into the hallway and wow he came back in and he pulled his glock put it to my temple are you serious remember that remember that he put it to my temple i flipped out because you know i pulled my did you poop your pants i pulled my i pulled my crazy white white card man i’m yelling and i’m punching the wall i punched the window out in my my my i still have a scar like i’m bleeding all over and the student advisors are coming in. The cops trying to calm me down. And, uh, and you know, they see a 17 year old kid who’s like bleeding and irate and angry and upset and saying the cop put a gun to his head. Right. Um, and so, so after all that transpired, then I had to go to internal affairs. And I had to tell that same story to Internal Affairs.

SPEAKER 06 : 23:01

Think about that.

SPEAKER 04 : 23:02

And then they basically just, without any lie detector test or anything, it was believable. I had, like, you know, cuts and everything. And they had to reboot that guy. I saw that guy at Sing Sing’s. You did? Sometime later. I’m getting drunk. No, Sing Sing, the prison. Wow. Downtown, I saw that cop. And, yeah, they moved him down a couple of beats, man. Well, yeah, and rightfully so. Rightfully so, because that was – we would have all been in trouble, and rightly so, if he would have followed protocol, which would have handed it off to the precinct rather than taking it on personally because it was personal.

SPEAKER 05 : 23:41

Now, think about this. I mean, with that type of incident, why was he not removed from the job permanently? I mean, there’s some great cops, but, man, there’s a few that are just like what you said.

SPEAKER 06 : 23:52

Because he may have had a good record up until then, and he was probably thinking off of emotions and everything else. Maybe.

SPEAKER 05 : 23:58

And that’s a thing. I don’t know, man. If you pull a gun, whether you’re a police officer or an individual, that seems to me like almost attempted murder, right?

SPEAKER 06 : 24:08

Well, I know when they swatted my house, they were going in with guns. Ain’t nobody got laid off.

SPEAKER 05 : 24:16

You had some pictures to prove it, man. That was crazy.

SPEAKER 06 : 24:20

But what we’re saying, people, is… Be careful. Yeah, there’s some things out there. Be real careful what you do. Now, let me ask you guys this. Do you think… Black people have it worse when it comes to police officers versus you said you pulled your white card.

SPEAKER 05 : 24:35

Is it just black people or people of a darker complexion?

SPEAKER 04 : 24:39

Well, yeah, I remember it was summertime and Brock got pulled over. Yes. He couldn’t get out of that ticket. That was a jerkish move, but that was… Well, you know… I don’t know exactly how to speak on this, except that I know my life, my life experience. I’m a white boy, and I had a cop that put a gun to my head. But the point that I’m making is the stuff that I was doing led me to always get into situations, and then my attitude exacerbated that.

SPEAKER 06 : 25:08

How many times have you been to jail?

SPEAKER 04 : 25:10

Oh, only three times. Really? All right. Well, think about this, too. I’ve been to Taj Mahal, downtown Denver. Well, think about this, too.

SPEAKER 05 : 25:18

A lot of people that are in that area, basically, I kind of hate to say it like this, but maybe a product or maybe it’s peer pressure. There’s a lot of data that shows that people that are being incarcerated, there’s a high recidivism, meaning that they basically go to jail once, go to jail twice. They keep going back, but it becomes a cycle.

SPEAKER 04 : 25:39

Yes.

SPEAKER 06 : 25:40

But I think that’s also because, God, I wish we had an hour, but that’s because the system’s flawed, I think. There’s a lot of flaw in that.

SPEAKER 04 : 25:47

There is a lot of flaw in the system. Well, because they’re not rehabilitating anybody.

SPEAKER 06 : 25:52

No. That’s a good point.

SPEAKER 04 : 25:53

You get institutionalized. You get to go to church. And you come out with a degree for criminal.

SPEAKER 06 : 25:58

Yeah, because when they let you out, they don’t give you a path of what to take to change.

SPEAKER 04 : 26:04

Except me. I’m a foodie, man. When I got into jail, I was like, this is gross. I’m never coming back.

SPEAKER 06 : 26:09

Do they still do sack lunches in jail?

SPEAKER 04 : 26:12

Good weight loss program.

SPEAKER 06 : 26:13

I’m sure they do a sack lunch thing. I’m sure, right? They probably give you the paper bag. Do they even sell those things at King Soopers anymore? Oh, you know, it’s back. Yeah, I guarantee. Yeah, that’s some crazy stuff. But for everybody out there, we do want you to know we’re not bashing police officers. We appreciate y’all. We thank you for your service. But we’re just giving our experience. Yeah, but we love police officers. And I’m just wondering why I’ve never got a pass. Like every time I’ve been speeding or I’ve gotten pulled over by the cops, it’s not like, well, I’m just going to give you a.

SPEAKER 04 : 26:49

you know, slap on the wrist and let you go.

SPEAKER 06 : 26:52

I wouldn’t. No, it’s a ticket every single time. Yeah, but it’s probably a mail-in ticket also. They probably don’t turn around.

SPEAKER 04 : 27:01

Get them two points off.

SPEAKER 06 : 27:02

You know what I’m saying?

SPEAKER 05 : 27:03

Is that when you’re driving off Colfax? Yeah.

SPEAKER 06 : 27:07

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SPEAKER 05 : 27:55

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SPEAKER 06 : 27:56

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SPEAKER 05 : 28:15

I’m a mix. A mix.

SPEAKER 06 : 28:16

We got a white and we got a black dude from Chicago. We’re killing it.

SPEAKER 05 : 28:20

We’re killing it. Thanks again, guys.

SPEAKER 03 : 28:37

being a man is what you make it you can’t always live up to expectations you try to please everybody while you struggle so you fake it and end up out of balance compromising situations as a good man do what he should man give everything he has and do everything he could man you might find yourself feeling all alone inside a house you built that you don’t recognize as home

SPEAKER 01 : 29:07

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