Explore the flux in technology stocks, with Apple at the forefront of the discussion. Learn about significant stock moves influenced by insider knowledge, as Bill Gunderson navigates through earnings season highlights. From major collapses in the tech sector to strategic stock holds and sells, this episode provides a comprehensive overview of the current market climate alongside expert insights into potential trends and future forecasts.
He’s been seen on CNBC, the Fox News Channel, and the Fox Business Channel. His articles can be found on MarketWatch, Seeking Alpha, thestreet.com, and many other places. He’s the author of the weekly Best Stocks Now newsletter and the inventor of the Best Stocks Now app. He’s president of Gundersen Capital Management. Here is professional money manager Bill Gundersen.
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And welcome to the Best Docs Now show with professional money manager. Bill Gunderson, president of Gunderson Capital Management, and I’m here with Barry Kite, our chartered financial analyst. And we are off to kind of a sluggish start in the market here so far today, although the futures were looking pretty good. And then once it opened up, it wasn’t quite as good, but it’s okay. We’ll take it. On President Trump’s first full day in office, the Dow is up 247 points. which translates to 57 basis points. It is helped along by 3M today, the pride of Minnesota. The NASDAQ, however, is down 11 points today, which is just 7 basis points. Meanwhile, the S&P 500 is up 23 points. to 6,020 a lot of big tech stocks were doing okay last time i checked russell 2000 having a very good day good day for small caps they are up 1.15 percent right now the bond market is pretty quiet down a couple of basis points here so far With a lot of talk yesterday, a lot of executive orders, which we’ll get into, a lot of new plans. 4.58% right now is where the 10-year, actually it’s up a few basis points right now. And last but not least, Bitcoin is having a bad day. It’s down 3,800. uh… right now so welcome to today’s best stocks now show with professional money manager bill gutterson president of gutterson capital management well barry we gotta go back uh… to where we left off it seems like uh… an eon ago uh… that the market uh… was open although it’s just been three days we finished up uh… last week that that was up three thirty five The S&P was up 59. The NASDAQ was up 292 as we had a huge day on Friday. And I’m going to say that what saved the day there for the markets and the NASDAQ were the cool inflation numbers. That was definitely the headline for last week because it looked like the market was rolling over and getting ready to correct even further. The Dow was down about 6%, 7%. And it looked like the NASDAQ and the S&P were going to follow. And then along came a cool, a decent PPI report. But it was the CPI report on Thursday that really sent the market hurling higher and staving off a correction or putting off a correction for now and even kind of broke that trend line, which was starting to point down there early last week.
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And had the market, actually had the market price in one more rate cut for 2025. So, I mean, who knows if those numbers will be right. But that inflation report, some mild inflation reports last week really brought the 10-year treasury down, I think, around 15 to 18 basis points.
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Yeah, so you can see how one report, of course, it cuts both ways. I mean, one report can really impact the market. both to the upside and the downside and it saved the day last week in the market and turned the market around. Okay, well we had a little bit happen here yesterday. I would say a seismic shift in many ways.
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It went very smooth, didn’t it?
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Well, yeah, I mean indoors and place to place, very well choreographed, timing good. There was definitely a lot of transparency in the Oval Office as the reporters sat there and asked Trump just about any question they wanted. And he was there to answer their questions. It was like coming into my living room and ask me anything you want. And the reporters were like, wow, they couldn’t believe it. I don’t think President Biden did that once during his entire administration. Anyways, and we’ve got a slew of executive orders. I don’t even know where to begin on that, but a lot of them will impact the market. There’s no question about it. Government spending definitely comes under fire. A regulatory freeze prevents bureaucrats from issuing any more regulations. until the administration has full control of the government. Okay, no more regulations, the small caps like that. A freeze on federal hiring, except military personnel. He took away the clearance of all the people that signed the Russia collusion letter, including a couple of bigwigs out there. I saw Leon Panetta was on that list. And the old, let’s see, Brennan. Brennan was on that list also. They lose their security clearance. A directive on inflation directing every department in the government to be mindful of inflation and rising costs and see what they can do to reduce costs in their own little department. withdrawing from the Paris Climate Accords, no more 50% EV cars by 2030, which is just five years away. That wasn’t going to happen anyways. Well, there was a mandate.
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You had to make people buy them, I guess.
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That has been a struggle to get people into electric vehicles, especially forcing them. Exiting the World Health Organization, declaring an emergency at the Mexico border, which I think you’re going to start to see deportations today. We’ll see how that goes.
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Cartels, listed cartels as terrorist organizations.
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Terrorist organizations. You know, I’ve been to Mexico many times in my lifetime. I’ve seen… bodies hanging from overpasses, you know, their bodies marred by the drug cartels. They’re a vicious group of people. And I do think that they will fight back. The woke culture comes under fire. And ironically, you know, today is the first day of the World Economic Forum, the annual World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland. And I would just say that, boy, I mean, their whole agenda has suffered a very, very severe blow. You know, maybe their ideas are still popular in Europe, but they got a big resounding thumbs down here in the U.S. And they’ll have to regroup on a lot of things. Mexico and Canada can expect tariffs on February the 1st. And now Canada has kind of changed their tune, saying, well, we’re going to fight back with tariffs of our own. And, of course, Mexico is really under fire with, number one, remain in Mexico, number two, sending the people back to Mexico, even though… They’re from other countries. And then the heavy tariffs and the war on their drug lords. So, boy, I’ll tell you what, a lot happened.
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And the pesos under fire as well pretty significantly.
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Really? Okay, I haven’t. That’s not one thing I look at every morning is where the peso stands or the ruble. But I would imagine that would hurt. I’m sure the wind energy stocks are not doing very well today as well. That’s been ditched for now. And, you know, I don’t know if his numbers were right, but he’s claiming that 28 whales have died from the wind platforms in the ocean. And I don’t know if that’s true or not, but… You know, save the whales. And also, it’s not real good for birds if birds fly in there. So he halts all leasing, just like Biden halted all leasing for drilling in the Atlantic and the Pacific Ocean. Huge swaths of land, water, under deep sea water from drilling. Trump turns around and halts leasing and permitting for wind energy. What’s that leave? Nuclear, I guess. The nuclear stocks are having a very good day today, once again. I’m seeing some of the smaller ones, especially like Oklo and SMR, Nano, Vistra. After the big fire in California, that didn’t seem to hurt. Their own fire, not the wildfires, but Vistra’s plant had a fire. That didn’t seem to impact the stock too much, however. And I think nuclear is probably going to have a pretty good future along with the oil. Oil is definitely going to have a good future. Not so much the price of oil. Liquid natural gas is going to be a big winner, LNG. Oil is down today to $76. It was approaching $80. And now all of a sudden with the threat or the promise, the almost certainty of a lot of supply coming online and Trump using that as a bargaining chip, if you want to do business with the U.S., you’ve got to buy our oil from us and other products that we produce. Okay, when we come back, we’ve got quite a bit actually to talk about today on this Tuesday. We’ve also got, I believe, 40 S&P 500 companies reporting earnings this week. Let’s take a look at where we are on earnings season. We’ll be right back.
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Thank you.
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And welcome back here to the second quarter of today’s Best Stocks Now show. The worst chart I’ve seen so far today, and that explains… Sometimes you take a look at an index like the NASDAQ and you say, why is it down when so many of these really good stocks in the NASDAQ are having a pretty good day? Well, one of the major players in the index, Apple… is down 3.6% today. Man, I’ve been warning about Apple for a long time, how it’s time to change the CEO. I’m sorry. Even, who was it, one of the big tech CEOs also said… Zuckerberg.
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Zuckerberg, wow. Basically just said he was, you know, just not, essentially not innovative. Exactly. Which we’ve said a good bit. I’ve said it many times.
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Their sales in China down 19% year over year. That doesn’t bode well for their earnings report coming up. Apple will report earnings on January the 30th. The Granite Shares does have an inverse Apple ETF. I don’t know if it’s leveraged or not. I don’t think it is. I want to say it’s one-to-one on the downside. That’s the way you could hedge Apple. There are people out there with huge gains in Apple, right?
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And they don’t want to sell it. Right. I mean, those folks always call it kind of a cost-basis jail, right? Capital gains jail. Almost something would have to really change with the stock for you to sell it. But I do think it’s interesting. I see underneath Apple a news story here. From today, earlier this morning, it says, Nancy Pelosi discloses buys of Alphabet and Amazon. I saw that. And sells Apple. Yeah.
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Well, I mean, that means she’s already done it before this, probably. She probably heard those China numbers, not through the grapevine, but through channels that we don’t have access to. But I am happy that she bought two of our stocks. What did she buy? She bought Amazon.
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Amazon and Alphabet, and then sold Apple.
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Okay, well, yeah, and there was a few others in there, too.
SPEAKER 01 :
Yeah, I was just looking at it.
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That was the headline. Yeah. Okay, so anyways, yeah, the Nancy… There’s a guy on… There’s a guy on X that he’s built his whole website and his information channel on what the insiders, the way insiders, the people in government are buying and selling. Like Nancy Pelosi has a terrific track record as a money manager, so he does always disclose. Now, back to Apple just for a minute.
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Yeah, she’s in the wrong business. I know.
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Yeah, but if she wasn’t in the business she was in, she wouldn’t have the information, even from a hospital bed somewhere with a hip replacement. Anyways, all of a sudden a big chunk of Apple showed up at our firm. And that’s what happens when somebody transfers their portfolio to us. All the stocks come over in kind. And I hadn’t had a real chance to look at it the last time I mentioned that. And I said, well, I’ve got to look at that because there may be huge capital gains in that stock, which would be devastating to somebody to just sell it. But it was in an IRA rollover, Barry, so guess what I did with it? Kerplunk. Yeah, I mean, I don’t like the stock at all. I kept just a little bit just to see if Apple can turn the ship around, but it doesn’t look like it. In the biggest company race, Apple is down to $3.3 trillion. And NVIDIA, well, they’re about tied right now. In fact, I think NVIDIA has now taken the lead. Let’s see where Microsoft is. Not that it really matters. Microsoft is no behind at $3.2. And then the fourth player in the race is the fourth player. It’s NVIDIA. Maybe it’s a three-horse race.
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It might still be. I mean, LVMH was up there, but it’s gone down a bit.
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Yeah, it’s the biggest one in Europe. Okay, now let’s take a look here at some other things that are taking place here today. This is earnings season. And we are getting earnings starting today, this morning. We’ve had quite a few companies report. And I’ll give you an update when we begin the second half of the show. I’ll give you an update on where we’re at so far in earnings season. Are we off to a good start? Are we off to a bad start? So-so start. Well, you’ll be surprised, I think, when you hear the start that we’re off to so far. Okay, the other thing I thought was, you know, bringing in the, on the world stage, the Middle East is definitely front row center because he actually had spent some time, you know, talking about having his Middle East envoy speak on the plans there. The Houthis are going to end their attacks on Western ships in the Red Sea, But they’re going to continue to attack Israeli ships. Well, I would say good luck with that. Because I think if they go ahead and continue to attack Israeli ships, there’s going to be hell to pay over there. The other buys by Nancy Pelosi. Oh, she also tweaked her holding in NVIDIA. Let’s see, did she buy more Nvidia? I think she did. Let’s see. On Amazon, yes, according to the blah, blah, blah. Okay, so anyways, yeah, no, that’s pretty much it. Nvidia, she sold 10,000 shares on December 31st. She bought Palo Alto. Yes, Palo Alto, P-A-N-W. Okay, now, write this one down.
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Did you know she holds between $1 million and $5 million worth of Palo Alto?
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Yeah, and that’s just a small position in her portfolio. But here’s one for you, Tempus A.I., T-E-M. I don’t know if that’s in the app. That’s a real small AI healthcare company. TEM. TEM. Okay, there you go. Let’s just take a look at the chart.
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And Vistra, too, by the way.
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Tempest AI is up 36.1% today. Okay? So, you know, not only just her moves move these stocks. Okay? I mean, it’s like when Warren Buffett buys. Yes, and she bought Vistra. So we’re on the right side of that Pelosi trade, too. Now, MicroStrategy, they float shares. They do secondary offerings. They keep floating shares. And what are they doing with the proceeds? They’re buying more Bitcoin. So, you know, there’s a house built on sand. The foundation is sand as far as I’m concerned. It’s basically you’re investing in Bitcoin when you invest in microstrategy.
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It’s a levered play, essentially a leveraged play on Bitcoin.
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Yes. Okay, now one of our stocks is getting a downgrade today. This is one of our worst. It’s down 8.3%, but, man, has it been a big winner. Astera Labs, A-L-A-B, which is in the AI infrastructure space, a big player in that space, and we own it in our – In our emerging growth, we bought it there first just to see. It was kind of like a AAA stock, AAA baseball, or AA. Then we promoted it to AAA. We doubled down. We added it to the ultra-growth portfolio, and it’s had a heck of a run. A little downgrade today. We’ll get into earnings when we come back.
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This is Bill Gunderson. Thank you for tuning in to today’s Best Stocks Now, Best Inverse Funds Now show.
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Now, back to the second half of the show.
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And welcome back here to the second half of today’s Best Docs Now show. Take a look at the earnings season so far.
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We’re just barely underway. Let’s take a look at the market. The Dow right now is up 257 points. A lot of that’s triple M, 3M, which we’ll get to in a minute. The NASDAQ has turned positive. It’s up 15. If it weren’t for Apple, it would be a lot better. The S&P is up 40 basis points right now. Now, as far as earnings season goes, we’ve been saying this ad nauseum. We don’t have an earnings problem in the market. How much to pay for those earnings is the debate that takes place every day in the market. Some days they’re willing to pay any price, it would seem, for equities or Bitcoin or whatever the asset class may be. And other days, just like that CPI news set the market on fire, don’t forget a bad report. I mean, I think it was the previous week that the Strong Jobs report, too strong, We can’t have that set the market into correction mode or headed towards correction mode until the CPI turned it around. And I think you can say, I don’t have any kind of research to back this up, but I do think that when the market is trading at a high multiple, It’s just logical that it’s going to be more volatile. Little things like jobs reports, little things like CPI reports, people are really keyed in on that, watching it very, very closely because they know they’re sitting on somewhat of a tinderbox with high PE multiples. Now, 9% of the companies in the S&P 500, so 45 companies, have reported so far 79% have reported a positive earnings surprise, and 67% have reported a positive revenue surprise, which is about in line, especially during a bull market like we’ve had since 2009. We’ve had a bull market in earnings since 2009, and every week I make sure to put that chart of earnings, that is right front row center, center pretty much, in the newsletter, and The earnings chart that explains the market more than anything I can use to explain why the market has gone up since 2009. There was only one dip. in there and that was 2020 the covid year and uh right towards uh we had just a little bit of a of a downdraft in 2019 and then earnings have been going up ever since and we’re looking for record earnings in 2024 which ended 21 days ago and that’s what’s being reported right now I can’t tell you how much the S&P made in 2024 until they’re done reporting those earnings. But it’s expected to come in somewhere just under $250 per share. This year, we’re looking at about $270 per share. And then 2026, which obviously is way out there on the horizon, but analysts have over $300 per share projected. So you can’t really look at that and be too negative on the market because earnings drive the market. The question is, how much are those earnings worth? How much are investors willing to pay? Well, over the last five years, the average has been around 18 to 19. Over the last 10 years, it’s been closer to 18 times. And right now, we’re up near almost at 22 times earnings right now. for the S&P 500 and you say, well, where does that fit? Over the long haul, well, that’s another chart I put in the newsletter every week. You’ve got to go back to October, July, October, late 2022. That was the year after COVID when everything, when all that money was sloshing around. They did run the price to earnings, the P.E. ratio of the S&P 500 up to 30. And then, of course, it went down to 17.5 after that with the Fed raising interest rates in 2022. And then we’ve been climbing ever since, since July. And the P.E. ratio is now, the P.E. ratio, this is looking backwards, 27.4. So 30 was the high before the big downdraft in 2021. But again, that’s when the Fed was moving against the market by raising rates. And right now the Fed has at least got a little wind at our back with no more rate hikes. Although there is one firm out there calling for a rate hike this year. But most people wouldn’t expect that. and of course we’re at twenty we we got up to twenty eight point five we’ve come down one point in the p e ratio uh… that helps a little uh… and uh… you know but we still keep in mind that we still are trading uh… at a very high at a very high valuation ratios uh and you know when when that really comes to the four and is put up there on the marquee is when interest rates rose rise like they did a couple weeks ago yeah and we’re already back to 4.56 at the moment down uh down nine basis points on the on the treasury uh today so that’s almost probably a close to a quarter point in the last year yes all of a sudden two trading days interest rates have started to head down i think it’s the hawkish talk on spending
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When it hit 4.8, I mean, it was funny. I mean, that was kind of the most thing. We were kind of of the mind that 4.7 was kind of that resistance number where if it went above, we were a bit worried. And it did touch 4.8 and literally hit that number and has been going down ever since.
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I didn’t think anything would stop it until it got to 5. But it finally did halt at 4.8. And now we’re back to just below 4.6. So we have come down about a quarter of a point. And that’s helped the market, obviously. Okay, let’s take a look at, well, 3M obviously is a S&P 500 company. Their earnings will get added into those S&P 500 earnings. 3M comes in with earnings growth. You know, it’s just hard for me to get excited. Sales growth is 0% at 3M, 0%. They’ve been mired at about $6 billion a quarter in sales for a long time. There’s no growth. It’s a non-growth company. Over the last five years, 3M’s growth negative 5% per year if you annualize that. And their earnings growth, they beat, they came in with $1.68. They beat their earnings, but that’s 31% lower than last year. So you’ve got to put that into context. Now, as far as the Best Stocks Now rating ranking system and my preference for stocks goes, 3M does not have the criteria that I want to see. Now, it’s a very heavily owned company. You get an account from Morgan Stanley or Merrill Lynch, and it’s more than likely going to have 3M in the portfolio. It’s not even a $100 billion company, which in today’s world kind of makes you a large cap. I think a mega cap is kind of after $100 billion. It’s $79.6 billion, which is nothing to sneeze at. But it’s no growth. And I’ve said many times, stocks follow earnings. Stocks follow earnings. And without that growth in there, you know, at least 7%, 8%, 9%, it’s very hard for the stock to go up because of the lack of earnings growth. Okay, the other one that has reported is one that we’re associated with. Our, what do you call it?
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Schwab.
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Schwab is our custodian, okay. So, you know, there’s where your money is actually deposited. They’re the bank. They’re the gatekeepers of, you know, who gets into your account, who does what, et cetera. Schwab has become probably the biggest custodian of all. They’re twice the size of 3M. They’re not in the Dow. They had a pretty good report. In fact, their sales were up 6%, and their earnings were up 49%. So Schwab obviously is assimilating that Ameritrade purchase that they made. I remember when I was with Scottrade in St.
Yep, and then I ended up with Schwab at the end of the day. So Schwab isn’t on my radar. I mean, Schwab’s in the financial sector, but Schwab did have a good report. That’ll go into the S&P 500 aggregate. And Schwab is up 4.2% today. So we’re off to a good start. After a very good start, I would say the banks got us off to a very good start. And we’re continuing on that path at least the first full day of trading this week. We’ll be right back.
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Where you want to go, do what you want to do.
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We’re in forever.
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And welcome back here to the final segment or the Best Docs Now show with professional money manager Bill Gunnarsson. Snow in Texas. I’m getting some photos from the Austin, Texas area of snow on the road. And I mean a lot of snow on the road. We’re supposed to have snowmageddon here. In Charleston and on up to Myrtle Beach area tomorrow. Well, a seismic shift hit the market here. I mean, you couldn’t be any further apart in ideology. The biggest change I’ve seen from one to another, I guess you have to go back to the last election when it went the other way. We were like a pendulum. We go back and forth. So a good thing to do on a day like today is to look inside the market. The parts. How are the parts? Where are we seeing the moves in the market? Are there any telltale signs? Or has that already all been built into the market? I’d probably lean more in that direction. Everybody already knew pretty much what executive orders he was going to sign, which industries, which sectors he was going to help, which ones that would be hurt by the shift in policies. So let’s just look at the Dow real quick. We know why 3M is up. 3M is up 3.9% today because of a very good favorable earnings report. A very impressive chart today and a breakout on the upside. I don’t know if this bodes well or not. Raytheon, RTX. which is a member of the Dow. Raytheon is breaking out. That’s probably the best chart in the Dow today. It’s up 2.8%. I guess we’ll be selling a lot of American-made missiles from Raytheon to foreign countries that need their Their technology. Caterpillar’s also having a good day, up 2.8%. I think America’s open for business. We’ve got Caterpillar’s over here. We’ve got Raytheon missiles over here. And don’t forget Boeing airplanes. Boeing is having a very good day. It’s up 2.4%. and not a bad chart, actually, on Boeing. That’s the best chart on Boeing I’ve seen in quite some time. And then you go next to Home Depot, which is having a nice move here today, and then Walmart having a very nice move. On the downside in the Dow, Apple. Apple is your stinker today, down 4% right now. That’s a pretty big move for that stock. Yes, there was a downgrade on Apple. There was Nancy Pelosi news selling her Apple.
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She downgraded Apple.
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Bill Gunderson sold all the Apple. We might still have a little bit that I kept just in case, okay, in one or two portfolios. And thirdly, their sales down 18% as Huawei… has really taken over the market there. I’m sure there’s a lot of Apple technology in those Huawei phones, right, that through reverse engineering or whatever, I don’t think they worry too much about patents and all that kind of thing over in China. but Apple is definitely the loser there. And then the oil stocks are actually down today, and here’s the reason why. I mean, a lot of that was built in, that Trump was going to do a lot of things that would really increase America’s output, number one. So that still bodes well for the equipment and the picks and shovels, but the actual oil companies themselves, that drives down the price of their product. when you increase supply. So you see down a little bit today in Exxon Mobil and also in Chevron. Now as we look inside the tech, When we look inside the NASDAQ, I don’t think big tech is really quiet today. The leaders in the NASDAQ, Ulta Beauty up 4%, Dollar Tree up 3.4%, Seagate. I saw somebody saying Seagate is their top pick. today, one of the big firms. It’s up 3.3%. Western Digital, which is a competitor to Seagate, is up 2.6%. I don’t see big tech. Intel’s up 1.7% because there’s still talk of a potential buyer out there for Intel. I don’t know that I see that. Google was breaking out to a new all-time high. It’s pulled back a little. It’s up 1.5%. I know their CEO and most of the big tech CEOs were at the inauguration yesterday. You had Google. You had Apple. Tim Cook was there. You had Bezos there from Amazon. Of course, you had Elon Musk there. You had the CEO of Microsoft there. They want to be in Trump’s good graces, I guess, and put in a showing. Okay, on the downside… walgreens is getting taken apart just when you thought it was a value play uh i don’t know they’ve warned or something it’s down 13.2 percent today and tesla is down 3.1 percent today i would have to say that might have something to do with the executive order on the ev right yeah instead of 50 ev cars on the road i mean right now i think it’s six five five to seven percent somewhere in there You’d have to have a heck of a lot of sales in electric vehicles to get to, well, that’s been rescinded now. So that, I’m sure, is hitting Tesla a little bit. And then as we look at the S&P 500, not really seeing anything that really sticks out to me. I will say one that is catching my eye because it’s breaking out. I like breakouts. That tells me that potentially a new uptrend is underway. It seems to be joining the nuclear list, and that is NRG Energy. It’s a Texas utility. It competes with Vistra. It’s out of Houston, and I believe Vistra is in Dallas.
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We owned it maybe two and a half, three years ago for some reason.
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You know, I don’t see the growth potential, but the market seems to see something I’m not seeing, and you never want to ignore that when you see the price action as good as it is. in NRG. Okay, well, we’re out of time. I’ve got a full day of charts and money management and all kinds of things to do here today. The four-week trial is still going strong, I can tell you that. I’m in contact all throughout the day with folks. whatever i can find that looks good and a teaching moment if i can and of course if you want to just say you know what i’d rather have gunderson’s team manage it i don’t have the time give us a call set up an appointment at 855-611-BEST 855-611-BEST have a great day everybody
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