In this episode of Rush to Reason, hosts John Rush and Andy Pate engage in a spirited dialogue over the implications of Trump’s immediate actions post-inauguration. Hear their expert analysis on how Trump’s fiery rhetoric might impact his base and beyond, and discover the potential effects of Biden-era policy reversals. Tune in for an exciting mix of political analysis, weather banter, and candid opinion.
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With your host, John Rush.
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And it’s Tuesday. Welcome, Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Myself, Andy Pate, Charlie Grimes. How’s Andy today?
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Andy’s doing well, and notice, I come back, and it’s a beautiful day.
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It all works together, John. You know, for those of you that haven’t been outside, temperature-wise, it’s about 42 degrees, which I know sounds cold, but compared to what we’ve had, it’s a heat wave.
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No, it’s fantastic.
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You can take your coat off if you want, it’s that warm. Literally, it’s very nice. I love it. Yes, well, we’ll take this over what it’s been, although cold weather coming back over the weekend, potentially more snow. Question of the day yesterday. In 1964, what was the prize motivation for Martin Luther King Jr. being awarded the Nobel Peace Prize? It was for his nonviolent struggle for civil rights for the Afro-American population, which, by the way, is unlike the left of today. Yeah. Today’s impossible question. What was the name of the German military’s plan to invade the Soviet Union in 1941, and what did it ultimately fail to achieve? That is the question of the day today, which I would have to have looked that up, so I have no idea.
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Well, I know they attacked Russia in the winter. That was pretty stupid. Beyond that, I really don’t know.
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Again, I would have to look that one up. All right. A lot to cover today. We’ll cover all sorts of things, including, as I promoed, a lot of what Trump has done, not just today, but what he started doing even yesterday, which it’s not common. I should say it’s very uncommon for a president to be inaugurated, go through all of the festivities of the day, sit down then for several hours with the press, answering questions and signing executive orders on your day one.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, answering all those questions while he was signing was amazing to see. I’m not sure I’ve ever seen that.
SPEAKER 15 :
And just talking away, he was very natural in what he was doing, very congenial, maybe is the best way to say that. I mean, and for those that maybe thought Trump looked tired earlier in the day, I think that shows you that, no, he wasn’t. As I said yesterday, I looked at him at the inauguration more of, It’s relief not being tired. I’m finally here.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, I’m not sure Trump ever tires.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, I don’t either.
SPEAKER 03 :
You know who he reminded me of? Because when they were asking these questions while he’s signing, right? And these are mostly, mostly left-wing questions. Yes. And he was giving these short, tough guy answers. Not mean, but short, tough, to the point, no yielding. He reminded me of Tom Homan. A lot. I mean, he was talking just like Tom Holman does when people give him immigration questions. It was kind of weird. But, wow, he was great.
SPEAKER 15 :
He did great. And, again, I mentioned a lot of things yesterday in regards to the inauguration and so on. Today we’re going to get into more of some of the things that he has done since. In fact, one of the things that I’ll go over as soon as we come back is – The initial recisions of the executive orders, the harmful executive orders that the last president, President Biden, put in, and we won’t go through every single one of these, but I think it’s important to look at, number one, what are some of the initial recisions? eos that trump has done reversing those that president biden did which by the way some some of these president biden did all the way up to just like january 3rd for example or some of these are even january uh even later right yeah some of these reversals are things that biden has done just in the past couple of weeks
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, it was really amazing.
SPEAKER 15 :
Which is good.
SPEAKER 03 :
I don’t know if we’ll have time later on in the show, but I thought there was a real difference between Trump’s strategy in his inauguration speech, which I think came from his heart. I don’t think his strategy was too great in his speech, but I thought his strategy in everything he signed was absolutely brilliant, and I think it’s going to pay off huge in publicity going forward.
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And by the way, I think his strategy in the inauguration speech was, all of you rotten, dirty-to-the-core individuals that are sitting behind me, this is what I’m going to do moving forward, and I don’t care that I’m saying this and you’re sitting next to me.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, he was speaking as an angry, hurt person. He was speaking purely from emotion. His speech was pure revenge. Now, did the Dems sitting behind him deserve it? Absolutely, every word. Did I personally enjoy it? Absolutely, every word. But generally, there’s a reason you don’t kick a dog when it’s down. You’re helping the dog. And so you’re making the dog look sympathetic, not to the Trump base, which we are, but everybody outside it. People are looking. That speech yesterday came off as all revenge, all anger. And, you know. And basically, it put a lot of Trump supporters in this position. We, right afterward, are having to tell people, you do realize their supporters tried to kill him. You do realize Biden just spent the last few weeks trying to derail Trump’s entire presidency. You do realize these people went through Mar-a-Lago. You do realize these people launched investigations against this man nationwide that they wouldn’t have launched against any other human being. I mean… you realize what this man and by the way this last administration just gave pardons out to some of those very individuals andy just mentioned right they just gave they just pardoned everybody who did evil right okay look these are evil people they deserved every word do i think that it was the greatest strategy to put it in that speech now i wanted him to say it all but i would have held a lot of that for his next speech that he gave a couple hours later but
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, and me personally, I don’t care.
SPEAKER 03 :
I know you don’t care.
SPEAKER 15 :
By the way, down the road, no offense, even in about three months, nobody’s going to remember that anyways.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, but YouTube lives forever. The thing is this.
SPEAKER 15 :
The things that he’ll do moving forward won’t matter.
SPEAKER 03 :
What I mean is this. You say the speech anyway. I’m just saying I would have done that speech a couple hours later. That was a rally speech. He was doing that… Out of bitterness and rage. And you know, you, John, you always say, make decisions with what? Your head or your heart? With your head. With your head. That speech came from his heart. That was rage. That was revenge. Now, Trump supporters want what? They want revenge. That’s what they want. So Trump supporters were standing up cheering blissfully at everything he said.
SPEAKER 15 :
And the way I looked at it was not so much that way as more of, you know, it takes a lot of kahunas. To say that about the very people that are literally 10 feet away, that, by the way, he wouldn’t care if he was looking at them straight in the eye. He would say the same things. But it takes a lot of cojones to do that.
SPEAKER 03 :
I don’t know if it takes so much cojones. I just think it takes rage.
SPEAKER 15 :
Most wouldn’t do that.
SPEAKER 03 :
Donald Trump hates them. I mean, he hate, well, of course, so do I. He hates them with a personal, deep passion for what they did to him, to his family, to his home. To the country. To the country. And this was, that was a speech that was absolutely driven by rage and vengeance. And now, did they deserve it? Every word. You know, look. Absolutely. Here’s what I mean. One quick thing, then we’ll go to break. The signatures that he did, they’re going to pay off huge in PR. Let me give you an example. He just released tons of prisoners, J6 prisoners, right? From that, we are very soon going to get what? A lot of stories from these people about how they were wrongfully treated. The reason that the Biden administration wanted to keep these people hidden was so that they wouldn’t speak. Correct. That was the whole reason. Okay, now they’re going to come out. They’re going to be speaking, and that is going to be incredible PR for Trump and against Biden. All right. He did several other things. I won’t go into it right now. Trend de Aragua, being terrorists, things like that that are going to pay off huge. Okay. There is effective PR outside your base, and then there’s ineffective PR outside your base. And the basic difference is usually this. When you act with your heart, you will appeal to your base, not beyond it. When you act with your head, you can appeal to both.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, and the way I look at it is he has nothing to lose, so who cares?
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, he has a lot to lose. No, he doesn’t. No, because he’s campaigning not just for him. Right now, the campaign for Vance 28 has already begun.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, but that’s so far out. No one’s going to care. Trust me on that. That won’t make a hell of a difference. What he did yesterday will have no difference on that. Absolutely no difference. None. You and I will have to agree to disagree. No. Because it’s not going to matter.
SPEAKER 03 :
John. You’re looking at it differently. No, I’m not. Because I’m looking. Yes, you are. Yeah, you’re totally looking. You forget people have short memories. No, no, no. You’re looking at it only as the base. And by the way, he could have been a lot worse than he was. You’re looking at this purely as the base. I’m looking at this beyond the base. Beyond the base, people were infuriated by what they saw yesterday.
SPEAKER 15 :
They were infuriated. I don’t care, and it won’t matter moving forward.
SPEAKER 03 :
I know you don’t care, but you’re the base. You play to the base.
SPEAKER 15 :
You like the base. I am. You know where I come from on that and how I want to make sure that we’re bringing everybody in as many voters as possible.
SPEAKER 03 :
Keep in mind, let me finish.
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By and large, the majority of Americans voted for him. By and large, the majority of Americans were rallying around what he said yesterday because they realize that’s exactly what’s happened.
SPEAKER 03 :
Oh, actually, no. Not every person who voted for him feels that same rage.
SPEAKER 15 :
They voted for him for a lot of reasons. Oh, I disagree with you.
SPEAKER 03 :
No, they voted for a lot of reasons. A lot of them just voted their pocketbook. A lot of them voted because of the incompetence they saw on the other side. A lot of them voted out of rage because they felt he was wronged.
SPEAKER 15 :
Agree.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay. It’s a real coalition that voted for him, not just one kind of rage person.
SPEAKER 15 :
I don’t think any of those people that voted for him would have been upset by what was said yesterday.
SPEAKER 03 :
Oh…
SPEAKER 15 :
I’ll just say that straight up.
SPEAKER 03 :
I don’t know if I would go that far. I know I wasn’t. Look, I enjoyed it, obviously, but I’m in the Trump herd.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, I think the majority of people that wanted change voted for him exactly for that, whatever their reason for change was.
SPEAKER 03 :
But the change was going to come with the stroke of a pen. I understand. The change wasn’t going to come because of that speech.
SPEAKER 15 :
But they still, at the end of the day, Andy, voted for the guy that’s going to make the change.
SPEAKER 03 :
Right. But what happened, the change was when he did that brilliant signing. that he did later, you know, answering all these questions and doing the signing and having it announced to the crowd and the crowd going wild. That was the change. That was all the change. All his speech was was something that played only to his base and nobody else. You know, I mean, look, every Friday I do movie reviews, right? I don’t do reviews for me. When I give a review, I do them for all viewers.
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Like I say, we’ll just have to agree to disagree, and that’s fine.
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Am I saying that this is going to cripple the Republicans for years? No. Actually, here’s my prediction. Really quick, we’ll go to break. My prediction is he will overcome what he did in that speech with a lot of his actions that are going to wow people and people are going to love it, and then they will forget. But do I believe the PR of the moment in that speech was good beyond the base? No, of course not.
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Okay. Enough said.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay.
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God. Country. Reason. Now back to John Rush.
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And welcome back to Rush to Reason. Dead for us afternoon, Rush. KLZ 560, John Rush, together with Andy Page. John, I got a question for you. As you know, Trump pulled us out of the Paris Climate Accord, thus proving there is a loving God. Okay. I just want you to know. To me, it’s the greatest thing in the world. Let me ask you this. Does the Paris Climate Accord even exist without America to rob?
SPEAKER 15 :
Not enough money to make it happen.
SPEAKER 03 :
If you don’t have us to rob. Well, if you don’t have China.
SPEAKER 15 :
The UN doesn’t exist without us.
SPEAKER 03 :
If you don’t have China and India to cut down their smog, and if you don’t have us to rob, what’s the point of the Paris Climate Agreement?
SPEAKER 15 :
Milk.
SPEAKER 1 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 15 :
Sorry, fleece. I mean, those two words, that’s it. Other than that, there is none. And I’m being very serious when I say that because there really is no point to it whatsoever.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay. Really quick here on the discussion we had before the break. John, we don’t actually disagree very much. What you’re basically saying is, yeah, it wasn’t playing beyond the base, but it won’t matter because his positive actions will overwhelm the PR of that so quickly it’ll bury it into the past. I actually agree with that. I do believe his positive actions will overwhelm the effects of that speech. The only reason I would have wanted to be more magnanimous is to really twist the knife in the people you just beat come out as the good guy standing on their grave. But I still would have made the exact same speech just a couple hours later. So, you know, whatever.
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So really quick, some of the executive orders that were reversed, I’m not going to go through every one of these, but you’ll get the underlying idea of what Trump did, not only on, you know, this wasn’t just, most people think today is day one. But literally, he couldn’t wait. Yeah. What I’m going to read off to you are things he did last night. Again, as Andy was speaking a moment ago, you know, signing these things, talking to the press and so on. So he has reversed these executive orders, advancing racial equity and support for underserved communities through the federal government. Again, not the proper role of government. And it’s bigotry. Gone. Ensure a lawful and accurate enumeration and appointment pursuant to the decennial census. Whatever that means.
SPEAKER 03 :
What? No, wait a minute. Is this going to affect the census coming up? Because I hope so. I’m guessing we’ll probably make it better. Well, we have to keep in mind, John, that places like California literally have more seats in the House because of a faulty census that actually counts illegal immigrants as people who are not citizens as citizens. Correct.
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Organizing and mobilizing the United States to provide a unified and effective response to combat COVID-19 and to provide United States leadership on global health and security. That’s gone. Good. Preventing and combating discrimination on the basis of gender identity and sexual orientation. Gone. Good.
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No more bigotry. Good.
SPEAKER 15 :
Ethics commitments by executive branch personnel, whatever that means.
SPEAKER 03 :
Really quick here before you run on. I loved his line that we’re going to be colorblind and merit-based.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah. That’s incredible. And two sexes.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, yeah.
SPEAKER 15 :
Two genders.
SPEAKER 03 :
That was later, though. That was the next statement.
SPEAKER 15 :
Right. Protecting public health and the environment and restoring science to tackle climate crisis. Gone. In other words, no more fleecing. Right. Because that’s really what that means. That’s all it is, is robbery. Let me expand on that. What it means is we’re going to cut funding to a lot of you that are in that world that are out to prove something that doesn’t exist in the first place. So the reality is, guess what, guys, go get another job. Basically what that says. You know, it really infuriates. Oh, gosh, yes. Because let’s face it, anybody that’s on that side is only on that side because they’re funded to be on that side.
SPEAKER 03 :
Look, how right can your side be when you have to silence the other side for you to win?
SPEAKER 15 :
Good one.
SPEAKER 03 :
Their side, I mean, they’re in trouble right now because big tech is opening up much more free expression. Let’s just say that. I’m not saying big tech has gone to the right. I’m just saying. I’m just saying. Right? Yep. They’ve got a real problem on their side right now because eight years ago when he first took office, they owned all of big tech and could completely control the narrative around his presidency. They can’t do that this time. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 15 :
Really quick meaning, and we had some conversation on this yesterday with some different callers and guests and so on, meaning that there’s theory out there, and I can’t really argue with this, that big tech wouldn’t have switched gears and come over to this side if they thought the left had a chance of winning 2028.
SPEAKER 03 :
That’s very possible.
SPEAKER 15 :
In other words, they want to be on the winning team moving forward.
SPEAKER 03 :
I think it’s twofold. I do agree with that. Let me add something to it, though. I believe big tech was shocked at the arm twisting behind the scenes that they received from the Biden administration. I mean, look, big tech already wanted to suppress right wing speech and they were doing it. And yet they were ramping that up to an eight. And the Biden administration wanted them to wrap that up to an 11 or 100. To 100, exactly. And so they were stunned that people on their quote unquote side were using power plays and shouting at them in profanities on the phone. I don’t think that these people are going to look at the left quite the same.
SPEAKER 15 :
I agree. Next one, revision of civil immigration enforcement policies and priorities. Yeah, we already know what he did along those lines.
SPEAKER 03 :
And it’s beautiful.
SPEAKER 15 :
Ensuring an equitable pandemic response and recovery. I hate that term equitable, by the way, Andy.
SPEAKER 03 :
Equitable. Pandemic response. In other words, you’re going to use your pandemic response to equalize outcomes?
SPEAKER 15 :
And by the way, there’s several more of these in a row that really he just got rid of what has to do with COVID-19 because the reality is we don’t need to be dinking with that period right now.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, of course not. And by the way, the reason that they wanted to push that was because people in the black and especially the black community suffered more from COVID for various reasons. And so what they wanted to do is use the money, then pour more money into a community that votes more for the left.
SPEAKER 15 :
And protecting this is when he reversed protecting the federal workforce, whatever that meant that Biden did on January 22nd of 2021. What protection do they need, Andy?
SPEAKER 03 :
I’m not sure how he was protecting them. I mean, unionized? I thought they were already unionized for the most part. Or protect them from… That one’s reversed. I don’t know.
SPEAKER 15 :
I got nothing. President’s Council of Advisors on Science and Technology kind of goes back to what we were talking to just a little bit earlier, tackling the climate crisis at home and abroad. That’s another one he reversed, strengthening Medicaid and the Affordable Care Act. Yay. Hallelujah. Yeah. Because they don’t need strengthened. No, they don’t. They actually need dismantled and redone.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, he won’t do that, unfortunately, but I would like it.
SPEAKER 15 :
No, I wish he could. And, you know, that one’s, again, that’s a… He had to get elected. Yeah, that’s a larger… topic that you’ve got to get a lot more people on your side to be able to tackle that one. Let’s say it that way.
SPEAKER 03 :
Let me ask you this, John. Do you think that with things like Doge, if we cut out all the fat in all the other areas, then it will shine a brighter light on the fact that entitlements are spending us into the grave? Do you think maybe they’re kind of going at it that way?
SPEAKER 15 :
That wouldn’t be a bad way of looking at it. Let’s clean up a lot of these other areas, for example, and I won’t get into it. But he’s even going after a lot of wasteful use of either government leases or buildings that we own that aren’t being used, buildings that are even beyond repair and so on. Trump just wants to eliminate all that stuff, sell it off, get rid of it, be done with it. Yeah, I agree. Which, by the way, I don’t care if we take a loss on it, get rid of it. If we’re not using it, why keep it? I totally agree. Get rid of it. So to your point, yes, that could very well shine a brighter light on some of these other issues. Let me just go through a few more of these. This one’s interesting. Establishment of the White House Office of Faith-Based and Neighborhood Partnerships. Yeah, we don’t need… The White House, which, by the way, you have to read the underlying things of what that really means and so on, because really, at the end of the day, Andy, that’s not what it says it is.
SPEAKER 03 :
No, I mean, usually things like that just become a bunch of leftism. Correct. Honestly.
SPEAKER 15 :
Correct.
SPEAKER 03 :
Go ahead.
SPEAKER 15 :
Promoting access to voting, that one has to do with the federal government encouraging registration to vote and so on and doing it in ways that, frankly, probably make the left have a leg up on the right. Yes. Is what that means. So that goes away as well.
SPEAKER 03 :
Every American, simply by being an American, is encouraged to vote. You don’t need the government going into their preferred communities to try to pump up votes. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 15 :
Establishment of the White House Gender Policy Council that is now abolished, guaranteeing an educational environment free from discrimination on the basis of sex, including sexual orientation and gender identity. Again, that goes back with the last one we just talked about. Again, you look at a lot of these executive orders, by the way, that happened early in Biden’s Not all of them on the first day. Some of these are rolling into even like April and May of 2021. But a lot of these, Andy, literally it’s like, OK, most of them have to do with gender, have to do with protecting federal workers, have to do with climate change, have to do with budgetary issues. And a lot of it is DEI crap.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, and I guess along with those, energy and the border. Correct. Basically, we’re going to end the invasion. We’re going to unleash American energy, real energy, not this fake stuff, real energy, and we are going to stop bigotry in the United States government.
SPEAKER 15 :
Right. I like it. Right. So, you know, again, go through. There is a gosh, I don’t know how many of these executive orders of Biden he reversed on the on, you know, on literally last night. You know, not even I guess you could call yesterday day one. But most people would call today day one because usually go through the inauguration of the parties afterwards and so on. But. Trump did a lot of this literally on like half day one or however you want to call it.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, you know, Trump, he just can’t wait. He had an itchy signing finger. OK, he had to go. Let me ask you a question. You can answer this after the break. Just a big question. Would you mind going through some of these after the break and just saying how you think these are going to play with the public going forward, six months out, a year out, two years out? Okay.
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SPEAKER 15 :
All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Myself, Andy Pate. Okay, before we continue on, one thing I just want to throw in before I forget, not to get on our high horse or anything along those lines, but I think it’s always fair to recognize those things that we have talked about that, frankly, came true the way that we said, because there’s always… conspiracies and all sorts of things running around that really we do our best to try to dispel one of those conspiracies all the way through you know up to the election once kamala you know once it was pretty much determined that she wasn’t going to win and once we got to election day and she didn’t win there was all these theories rolling around that they would still make her president before the end of the term, and just so they could say, even if it was for a few days or a week, that we’ve got our first black female president. And I said all along, and so did Andy, that no, because of the rift between the Bidens and Harris— Right. That that’s not going to happen. Jill’s never going to allow her into the White House. She’s never going to have that opportunity, period. And that was part of the deal in the first place they made in Joe backing out of the race and allowing her to enter the race as the presidential candidate. We said all along that because of that rift between those two, it’s just not going to happen. And there was a lot of you out there listening. Sorry, I’m just going to say it as it is. A lot of you listening that didn’t agree with that, that thought for sure they would make her president even for a short time. And it didn’t happen.
SPEAKER 03 :
No, it didn’t happen. And you know why, John? Because they made the deal for Joe to reluctantly step aside and get out of the race. Let me tell you something. That’s where the giving ended. Correct.
SPEAKER 15 :
There wasn’t going to be any more giving. There was no more deals. That was it.
SPEAKER 03 :
Oh, but Joe would want to make history afterward by giving us the first black female president. No, Joe doesn’t care about history. You know, here’s something that the left doesn’t seem to understand. Look, you’ve got two kinds of people on the left. You’ve got your activists who are down for the cause, and then you’ve got your users. Right. Okay? We have some of this on the right, too. Joe’s a user.
SPEAKER 15 :
He only cares about what he can get from… It’s the Biden crime family, so you’re right. Right. Absolutely.
SPEAKER 03 :
You know, we talk about the state party here a lot, right? There are some who are absolutely down for the cause with what they’re all about. Attack open primaries no matter what. They’re activists. They really believe in it. Dave Williams doesn’t believe in it. He doesn’t care. Dave Williams only wants what’s good for Dave Williams.
SPEAKER 15 :
He’s Joe Biden, actually. He is Joe Biden. And I’ve said it all along. He only cares about himself, just like Joe only cares about himself. And everything we said about what would happen all the way up to Inauguration Day, which, by the way, exactly what we said came true. I want to remind all of you of that, because some of you out there were pretty headstrong on the fact that they would somehow shift things around. She would be president, blah, blah, blah. And we said all along, no, that’s not going to happen. And it didn’t.
SPEAKER 1 :
No.
SPEAKER 03 :
Why would he… He was done with his giving. He had fulfilled his end of the deal. His bargain was done. Yeah. There’s no tip. I’m not going to give a tip afterward, okay? I paid. I’m done.
SPEAKER 15 :
That’s exactly how… And again, he and Jill looked at that from day one, and I’ve said all along… They don’t like common law. And a lot of this has come from Charlie, because he reads a lot of inside things that I really honestly don’t have time to read, so he gives me a lot of info. The riff… between Kamala and Jill is, as Donald Trump would say, huge. Yes, it is. It is major. They do not like one another at all.
SPEAKER 03 :
You know, and it’s not just personal, but it is personal, but I’m going to go a step further, okay? It’s also ideological. We have to keep in mind that up until his presidency, Joe Biden was never regarded as a left-wing extremist. He was bitter because he had to take on Kamala to quote unquote balance his ticket. Good point, Andy. Which would energize the hard left and also put a woman of color. And here Joe Biden is saying, look, I’m having to have a quota hire as my VP. That’s how he saw her. I guarantee you.
SPEAKER 15 :
I think you’re right. I would agree with you on that one.
SPEAKER 03 :
He had people I guarantee he would have preferred to have, and I guarantee he had never been part of the hard left in his party. He had never been part of the… He was in the Bill Clinton wing of the party all the way, okay? Always. Yeah, he had those left-wing tendencies, but he’d never been this hardcore, radical, wacko left-winger. And he knew that when he brought her on the ticket to satiate that part of the base, he was going to have to spend the next four years of his presidency doing everything they wanted. And he did it, and it blew up his presidency. And he was bitter. You don’t think that Joe Biden left after four years thinking, my gosh, half the stuff I did wasn’t even what I wanted to do. And I blew up my entire presidency.
SPEAKER 15 :
So do you think he’s saying, I told you so, to the party now?
SPEAKER 03 :
Yes, he is. Joe Biden was never this open borders, let’s have a full invasion of our country guy. He was never like that. He became like that for them. He opened up the border and had a full invasion, which is something he had never advocated his entire life. He never believed in more than two genders. he never supported i agree with you he never supported trans athletes beating up women in the boxing ring he never supported boys well except in his own life he never supported men being in women’s locker rooms but you know what i’m saying i know what you mean okay he never supported any of this stuff john that wacko extremist but he let them do it why because they were in control of his party and they would oust him if he didn’t and he was bitter and at the end He’s looking back on a presidency and watching Donald Trump excoriate him in his inauguration speech.
SPEAKER 15 :
I can’t argue that. And by the way, that’s got to be really hard. To add another layer to that, it is the Biden crime family. Joe definitely was… A criminal. Yeah, he was definitely… on the move to do as much destruction to America as he could, but through other ways than what Andy just said. He was doing it via China and all sorts of other deals that were happening through the back door, but not in the way Andy, you just mentioned.
SPEAKER 03 :
Right. He was doing it through selling out America to foreign interests.
SPEAKER 15 :
Correct.
SPEAKER 03 :
For his own wallet.
SPEAKER 15 :
Correct.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay. But he never wanted America to be turned into crazy land.
SPEAKER 15 :
I can’t disagree with you on that one.
SPEAKER 03 :
He was never for that. They ruined his presidency. I guarantee you, Joe Biden, who was sitting two seats away from Kamala, was looking at this and thinking to himself, you and your people, Kamala, destroyed my presidency.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, you cost us.
SPEAKER 03 :
And now I’m watching this guy talk about how he’s going to take a sledgehammer to everything I did, and here’s the thing. Half of what I did, about half of what I did, was because of you, and I didn’t even want to do it.
SPEAKER 15 :
I can’t argue that.
SPEAKER 03 :
What do you think?
SPEAKER 15 :
No, I can’t argue that. I think that’s a really good analogy, and I think it’s why there are times where… And bear with me here, because they are quote unquote enemies, you know, Trump and Biden. But on the same token, I think there’s times where Biden wishes it wasn’t that way.
SPEAKER 03 :
I agree. I think he has more in common with Trump a lot of the time than he does with Kamala.
SPEAKER 15 :
Which, by the way, is why he said, welcome home. What lefty would have said that to Trump during the inauguration? None. None. That proves your point, I think, Andy.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 15 :
Because she would have never said that.
SPEAKER 03 :
Right. Right. Well, there are a lot of people who think that Joe and Jill voted for Trump.
SPEAKER 15 :
That one would not shock me.
SPEAKER 03 :
That would not surprise me at all.
SPEAKER 15 :
That would not surprise me one bit, Andy. Because I think they have utter disdain for her as well. Yes.
SPEAKER 03 :
And not just for her.
SPEAKER 15 :
Not just on the level I was talking about in regards to the White House and so on, but just in general, period. And by the way, I think that happened.
SPEAKER 03 :
Because Joe at least has a history of achievement in government.
SPEAKER 15 :
She does not. And by the way, I don’t think that may not have been that way from day one when he was inaugurated back in 2021. But I believe that came shortly thereafter when they also realized, oh, holy cow, we brought on one of the dumbest people on the planet to be my VP.
SPEAKER 03 :
Right. Am I right? Oh, totally. And on top of that, John, keep in mind, she was forced on him. Correct.
SPEAKER 15 :
But my point is, even after all of that, where he might have said, OK, you know, I’ll play along and so on. And then she starts going out and she has a few speaking engagements and does a few things early on in the term. And they realize within about 90 days, by the way, the party even did within about 90 days. Well, we can’t do that anymore because she is the dumbest person in the room.
SPEAKER 03 :
Right, and then you never heard from her. Right. She became Dan Quayle. Correct. Okay, and here’s the thing, John. You’re a businessman, okay? What if you had a business partner forced on you, and then, but you barely knew him, okay? You didn’t like the decision. Good point. He was a quota hire, whatever, you know, whatever. But then, over the next nine months or so many months, you see, wow. Wow.
SPEAKER 15 :
What a moron.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay. Aren’t you even more bitter because this person, because you didn’t even choose him.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, because now, you know, wait a minute. I’m now going to carry this presidency all the way through. I have no help.
SPEAKER 03 :
I have no help.
SPEAKER 15 :
I have no help. It’s all on me.
SPEAKER 03 :
I have no help. And the party right now is being run by people who want her.
SPEAKER 15 :
And by the way, I’m indebted to them because they got me elected in the first place. So now I’ve got a kowtow to them and I’m doing it on my own.
SPEAKER 03 :
Exactly, because all of the energy in the Democrat Party is in the AOC wing. Outside of that, they’re lifeless.
SPEAKER 15 :
Can’t argue that one, Andy. I think you nailed it. I cannot argue that at all on any level. I think you are spot on. And I am guessing that today. As Joe Biden woke up, well, of course, I’m not sure Joe knows where he’s at most days. But let’s say Joe Biden woke up somewhat relieved that I no longer have to deal with anything of what you just said, but disappointed in the fact that had we played this differently from day one, we may have had a different ending. Agreed. Absolutely. So I think they have two emotions there.
SPEAKER 03 :
I think you’re right. And I’m going to tell you right now, Jill Biden, I think the odds are better than 50-50 she voted for Trump.
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SPEAKER 15 :
All right. Something we were discussing through the break, which you guys don’t hear what we talk about. But there’s a video audio as well of Amy Klobuchar, who was in charge of a lot of the inauguration events and things. And she was even did a good job. Yeah, did a good job. She was very involved in the coordination of the handoff, if you would. You know, the ride from one place to another where Trump and Biden were together. And she talks about all the things that they talked about and how congenial they were and the great conversation they had, what they spoke about. Something she couldn’t mention because of security issues and so on. But in general, she gives a lot of things that they actually talked about and some of the fun that they had together. So going back to Trump’s speech. Right. At the inauguration. One thing we kind of want to add to that, knowing all of that, is it’s very interesting if you think about it. Donald Trump never named Joe Biden. personally and all the things that he said were wrong with the last administration going along, by the way, with a lot of what Andy talked about with how Joe got there in the first place. So now you have to ask the question, did Trump and Joe even know some of that conversation was going to happen? And it was Trump really going after more of those that were, quote unquote, in charge, the AOCs of the party, if you would. And is that where that was directed to? Not so much at Joe Biden himself. Right.
SPEAKER 03 :
I think so, because because think about it. Trump excoriated the Biden administration throughout that entire speech in shocking manner. Right. And then they have a friendly conversation afterward, which they did. OK, so was he really excoriating Joe Biden or was he excoriating those who forced Biden to not be Biden for four years? Because don’t get me wrong, Biden’s a left winger. The whole party is. I get it. But he is nothing like Biden is a Bill Maher left winger.
SPEAKER 15 :
OK, would agree.
SPEAKER 03 :
At least his history. That’s his history.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, I would agree with that.
SPEAKER 03 :
His history is he’s a Bill Clinton, Bill Maher, that kind of thing. You know, he’s a criminal, but he’s not a wacko. Okay? And… I just get the feeling that Donald Trump was tearing apart the presidency that was forced on Joe Biden.
SPEAKER 15 :
By the party, not by Joe himself.
SPEAKER 03 :
The party that also forced Kamala on him, which comes back to why, no, he wasn’t going to let Kamala be president for a couple months.
SPEAKER 15 :
No way. Reassures all the things we were saying.
SPEAKER 03 :
It’s all kind of coming together. What do you think? No, I agree with that.
SPEAKER 15 :
Is it painting a picture? The more you analyze this and look at things. And again, there’s a lot of inside baseball that we don’t know that Trump does. And some of this may come out down the road and, you know, memoirs and things that get done after, you know, somebody’s president and so on. And you might see some of that on down the road. Who knows? But I would venture to guess that what we’re saying is more likely than Trump just trying to lambast Joe Biden.
SPEAKER 03 :
I totally agree. And you know one other thing that I think was driven by the Democrat machine and not Joe Biden, because Biden wouldn’t have cared? All of the lawfare against Donald Trump. That was the hard left carrying that out. These were not a bunch of Bidenites. These were the Kamalites.
SPEAKER 15 :
And here’s where I… By the way, you’re right. And I think… You could prove that by the pardons Joe Biden did. Yeah. Knowing that. Wait a minute. Had I not had we not done some of those things to Donald Trump initially, I wouldn’t even have to worry about this today. But I’m doing these pardons now because honestly, to have no choice because my party foisted this on me.
SPEAKER 03 :
Right, my party demonized everybody connected to Donald Trump and Donald Trump. And by the way, we got Donald Trump shot at, okay? Now I got to protect my family.
SPEAKER 15 :
Which, by the way, probably secured him winning more than anything else that was done.
SPEAKER 03 :
Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER 15 :
The shot heard around the world. Um… Andy, I don’t think we’re wrong on any level on any of this when you really start analyzing some of what’s gone on in the party. And by the way, does the left have a lot of work to do to regain a lot of voters back to their side? Absolutely. Especially if, which he is, if Donald Trump hits the ground running, which he is, and he gets things really back on track and gets money back in people’s pockets and lowers energy prices and, and, and, and, and. Yeah, they’re going to have a tough row even in the midterms.
SPEAKER 03 :
Tell you what, in the next hour when we have some time, let’s talk about how well his actions are going to play out over the next couple years. I think it looks good.
SPEAKER 15 :
Oh, I agree. Yeah, definitely. Well, yeah, let’s do that. And, again, there will be a lot to talk about over the course of the next several years, which is exciting. Isn’t it fun? Isn’t this fun? Absolutely.
SPEAKER 03 :
This is just, I mean, we have spent the last four years every day waking up saying, oh, my gosh, I can’t believe they did that now. And now it’s the opposite.
SPEAKER 15 :
It is going to be directly the opposite. All right, another couple hours coming your way. Hour two is next. Don’t go anywhere. Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
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