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From football fields to political scandals, this episode of the National Crawford Roundtable offers a robust conversation on diverse topics. Hosts John Rush and Bob Duco begin with a lighthearted analysis of the Super Bowl, extending their conversation to include notable celebrity political blunders that echo through the cultural zeitgeist. As the episode progresses, the hosts critique recent findings of financial mismanagement by government entities, citing examples like Christianity Today and USAID. This scrutiny extends to the examination of national expenditure, particularly the extravagant spending by FEMA on luxury accommodations, emphasizing the need for greater oversight and accountability. Listeners
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Welcome, everybody. Another edition, National Crawford Roundtable. Be myself today, John Rush from Rush to Reason in Denver, Colorado, and Bob Duco from Crawford. The Bob Duco Show in Detroit, Michigan. Neil Morand is not with us today, so Bob, it’s just you and I. John and Bob today.
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You know, he’s still smarting over the bills. He just can’t get past it.
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He’s in PTSD right now. I will say that we were texting back and forth Sunday night during the Super Bowl and just loving the fact that the Chiefs were just getting utterly demolished, and the score doesn’t even reflect how bad they got beat.
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It doesn’t. It doesn’t. I mean, that was not a 40-22 blowout. That was a much bigger blowout. If you think about it, not to get too inside baseball here, but the Chiefs, the only scores that they got were on big plays where you throw like a big bomb and what do you know, the guy happens to catch it.
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And one of those was with a lot of second-teamers in because they want everybody to be able to play in the quote-unquote Super Bowl. So, again, score doesn’t reflect how bad they got beat.
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No, it doesn’t. I mean, the Chiefs, unless I’m missing something, they did not have one single sustained drive down for a touchdown. They could only depend on the occasional big play to score some final points in the last parts of the game.
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Right. Wow. I did not expect that. Five or six sacks. I don’t remember, Bob. One of the two. Five or six, I can’t remember.
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I know.
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Patrick could not do anything.
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The defensive line of the Eagles was just on fire. You’re right. They couldn’t do anything. And who would have thought KC would get spanked like a four-year-old stepchild on aisle three at Walmart?
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Oh, man.
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That’s what they got.
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One other stat, just a side note, but I think this is really interesting, showing you the difference in, really, I think you could say population today, and this is probably a podcast segment, topic in and of itself, but the offensive line for the Eagles from the first Super Bowl to that one is 100 pounds per individual on average heavier and like six inches taller.
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I saw that.
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Unreal.
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That is insane. These are like a bunch of Nephilim, okay, from Genesis chapter six. Exactly. Which, by the way, can I just ask you, John, before we before we completely get off the Super Bowl, I am curious, though, to get your take on a couple of things that happened there. First of all, the they only showed I mean, here’s the president of the United States at the Super Bowl for the first time ever in history. And it just – I’m not saying that you make it all about Trump and you have, like, the Trump cam constantly like they used to do the Taylor cam. But other than that one brief flash of him saluting during the national anthem that only lasted about four or five seconds – That’s it. His presence there was completely ignored throughout the entire game, but even during that four or five seconds, you could hear the entire stadium start roaring in applause, contrasted with Taylor Swift getting booed.
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it’s like oh my goodness so yeah um and that’s and this is where again another topic probably for another day but this is where you know stars celebrities whatever you want to call them in her case a singer need to be careful what you do politically speaking because that’s the repercussions of when you do she should have stayed neutral throughout the entire campaign she you know she hitched her wagon to kamala harris and that was a bad move on her part
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You know what it reminded me of? And this is going to be really, really old school. But I happen to be an Elvis fan. I mean, people are either Elvis or Beatles.
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No, me too.
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I’m both, but for me, Elvis trumps the Beatles.
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And part of that was the way I grew up. My folks were big Elvis fans and the Beatles just… And I know that’s heresy for a lot of people, but that’s just the way I grew up. I know.
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And my mom was a big Elvis fan, and so it transferred over. And so I get it. I get it. But I’ll never forget, there was a press conference that Elvis gave. This was when he was at the height of all of his success, getting ready to do the worldwide satellite Aloha from Hawaii thing. And so he’s as big and famous as it gets. And he gave a rare press conference. And somebody asked him a political question. And the political question was, what’s your opinion of war protesters? Right. Now, everybody knows, we now know Elvis was actually a Republican. He was. And all his people say he’s a Republican, he’s a conservative. It’s like, okay, fine. But his answer was, you know what, honey? Because he calls his reporter honey. He says, you know what, honey? I just as soon keep my personal views about things like that to myself because, and I love these words, I’m just an entertainer. So I’d rather not say. Wow. Words of wisdom. That to me was smart. It was wisdom. And this guy’s a conservative. He could have said, you know what? Democrats drive me crazy. I’m a Republican. I’m a Richard Nixon supporter. You know, whatever. So, you know, that’s what Taylor Swift and a lot of these celebrities could really learn from, frankly.
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Absolutely, absolutely. Speaking of some of that, and we’ll get to our advertisers here in just one minute, our sponsors in a minute, but before we do that, this one, and not that I was shocked at this, Bob, and we won’t spend a lot of time here because, again, I think all of us knew something was going on there anyways, and that’s Christianity Today. It’s been found out that they were taking money from USAID, and by the way, it hasn’t been Christianity Today for quite some time. I don’t know what today it is, but it’s not Christianity Today. It’s not, exactly. But the reality is they have been on the dole with U.S. aid for quite some time. Right.
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And that doesn’t surprise me at all because I get news. Christianity Today has gone totally woke and left wing a long time ago. They really have. And, like, I remember the old days of Christianity Today. And it’s like, okay, yeah, but now, no, honestly, they’re nothing more than liberal left wing.
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It hasn’t been that way, Bob, in two plus decades. Right.
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I know. At least. It really is. And so I hate to say it, but I’ve pretty much written off Christianity Today a long time ago. So the fact that they’re taking the USAID money, that doesn’t surprise me at all. Here’s what we’ve got to remember about USAID. And this is something that when the left and the media tries to present U.S. aid as, well, this is the U.S. providing aid, humanitarian assistance to people around the world when they get in an earthquake or things like that, you know, famines and such. The United States is always providing. going to help different countries around the world, okay, but it needs to be done on a case-by-case basis. But when you have this big left-wing behemoth called USAID, let’s just dump all the money into that and then let them spend the money how they want to. You know, there was one report that I read, John, think about this, that USAID was telling countries that a condition of receiving our aid is that those countries would have, you know, a Pro-LGBT policies.
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All the DEI nonsense and all of that. I know.
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If you’re not doing DEI, if you’re not doing LGBT, if you’re not doing that kind of stuff, then we’re going to withhold aid from you. So let me get this right. Starving people, starving children are denied food unless you can prove that you’re promoting our left-wing causes. No, forget that.
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Utter nonsense. Absolutely. I can’t remember who the leader of the one African country was, a black guy, and he gets up there in front of the microphone. He’s like, guys, he’s talking to his own people. He’s like, guys, what are we doing here? Why are we taking this money? Why are you mad at the United States of America from doing what they’re doing and tightening their belt and so on? The reality is we don’t need this, especially with basically all the strings attached.
SPEAKER 03 :
I know. I could not agree with you more. So I’m glad to see that happen. I’m not saying the United States should not join the chorus of other nations that may help out some particular people in an emergency, in a need, in something like that, but you do it on a case-by-case basis.
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Absolutely. Well, first of all, one of the things that Donald Trump did his first week in office was signed an executive order reinstating the Mexico City policy. So we don’t have to pay with U.S. tax dollars for abortions and abortion services in countries around the rest of the world. I think that’s fantastic. And ordering that the Hyde Amendment is to, in fact, be enforced in this country. So we don’t directly pay for abortions in this country, although we still do indirectly pay for them through funding Planned Parenthood. But You know, when we talk about all the politics of abortion, one thing we’ve got to remember, okay, there’s still individual babies whose lives can be saved, and pre-born is the mechanism by which they’re saved. Because pre-born has ultrasound machines in pro-life centers across the country, and they show these ultrasound images of unborn babies to expectant moms, and those moms choose life when they see a picture of the baby. They usually accept Jesus Christ as Savior, too. The problem is, folks, that we have more pro-life centers than we do machines in them to show the ultrasounds. And it costs money to show these ultrasound images. So you got some centers where we need more money to be able to pay for more ultrasound images, and we have some centers where we just need ultrasound machines in general. So here’s what we’re asking everybody in the audience to do. On a smaller scale, pay for a certain number of ultrasound images to save babies’ lives. On a larger scale, buy an ultrasound machine. Now, if you buy an ultrasound machine, they’re 15 grand a piece. It’s a nice tax write-off for you. And you know, your forever legacy is going to be that you’re stopping thousands and thousands of abortions every year. Think about that. You actually really are stopping them. Now on the smaller scale, Just pay for an individual number of ultrasound images. $28 is the average ultrasound expense to stop one abortion, to save one baby’s life. How many babies’ lives will you save? Take $28 times fill in the blank. And whatever that number is, that’s your forever legacy of the amount of abortions that you stopped. So maybe you’ve given a pre-born already, but you have it for 2025. How about making that a 2025 decision right now? Here’s how you give. Go to CrawfordMediaGroup.net and click on pre-born. CrawfordMediaGroup.net. Click on pre-born. You give right there. 100% of everything you give goes to ultrasounds, not a penny for overhead. That’s all covered by private donations, so don’t worry about that. You can also give over the phone. The answer to the phone is 24-7, so call 833-850-BABY. That’s 833-850-BABY. Just mention National Crawford Roundtable when you call, John.
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Appreciate that, Bob. And, yeah, for all of you listening, please help out Preborn. It’s a great organization, and they do a lot of things in regards to what Bob has just mentioned. We’ll talk to them also throughout the rest of the program a few more times. In the meantime, Bob, FEMA. This just came out here a couple of days ago. after Donald Trump put a stop to the spending, put a freeze on spending temporarily until things could be determined, what was going where and so on. That’s where some of the things we talked about a few minutes ago with Christianity Today came from. But FEMA spent $59 million on luxury hotels in New York City after Trump put a freeze on the spending. I mean… The thing I’m concerned about, Bob, is I still read on social media and I’ll look at what some of the left has to say about this and even what some of the politicians, which we’ll get into that here in just a moment as well. But why isn’t every single American outraged at this? I am. This is a bunch of garbage. They ought to be.
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First of all, the president of the United States is allowed to temporarily pause spending in certain government agencies that answer to the executive branch. He’s the head of the executive branch. And so he’s allowed to do this. So for first of all, I think anybody who made the decision. To spend that money anyway in defiance of the president? I don’t know why they’re not fired immediately.
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Well, they have been as of today.
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Well, yeah, right.
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Okay.
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So they are.
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And he’s the king of, you’re fired. But of course you do stuff like that. I mean, I can’t imagine when Joe Biden was in office. I can’t imagine some Republican conservative decision maker and some government agency defying the president of the United States saying, well, you know what? Too bad. I’m going to do this anyway. It’s like there’s this this mentality that, oh, this is what Donald Trump says. We don’t like him. So we don’t have to take him seriously. The man is the commander in chief and not by coup. OK, by being elected by more than half of the American public. So. This is, no, I agree with you. It’s absolutely absurd.
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And again, folks, those of you listening, it just shows you, Bob, in my opinion, it just shows you the utter disregard, hatred, whatever you want to call it, that the left has for not only Donald Trump, by the way, for all of you listening, this is to the right in general. This isn’t just Donald Trump. As I keep saying over and over again, this is good versus evil, and you can literally see the way they view things. You know, They look at, and I’ve heard this over and over again from the left, Bob, the reality is, and this is something I talk about constantly, I’m always careful to never say government money. Government has no money without us as taxpayers, those that are paying in, you, I, others that actually have a positive tax where we actually pay every year. I know there’s tax receivers, but we’re taxpayers. At the end of the day, this should just make every single taxpayer out there upset because, again, government has no money. This $59 million, well, frankly, at this point, that $59 million we borrowed as taxpayers that we didn’t have to pay interest on and pay back over time. It’ll be our great grandkids that pay that back unless something else happens. But at the end of the day, Bob, they have no money. It’s ours. I know.
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Well, it is. And there is a philosophical reality to this that people just don’t get. It is U.S. taxpayer money. When I mentioned the Mexico City policy earlier, OK, it’s our tax dollars that Donald Trump says we shouldn’t have to pay for committing abortions and promoting abortions. In Sweden or in any other country around the world. OK, that’s not our job to pay for that stuff. And the president has absolute authority to say, no, this is I’m going to be a wise steward with the government’s money, which, you know, if you think about it, John, because I know you’re planning on talk a lot about Doge. think about how responsible this is in any other normal universe, okay? It’s supposed to be a good thing to say, let’s look through everything we’re spending money on, and let’s find out what we can trim back. Because guess what? What we’re taking in, we’re taking in $6 trillion a year, but we’re spending $8 to $9 trillion a year. We can’t… Household budgets do this.
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Bob, it wouldn’t be any different than you and I. You’ve been in the business world. I am. This is no different than when I coach or when a CEO comes in and they take over a company that’s fledging. In other words, their spend is bigger than their inflow. In other words, the outgo is bigger than the inflow. The first thing they do is exactly what Donald Trump’s doing right now. Time out, guys. Hey, accounting department, no more checks cut until I see each thing. I want to know exactly what we’re spending money on. We are going to stop the bleed, per se, before we do anything else in this company. Yes, we’re going to continue to sell. Yes, we’re going to continue to collect revenue. That’s a part of what we do. We need to figure out ways to make that better. But on the other hand, we have got to figure out where are we wasting money and we have to stop the bleed.
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Do you realize that one of the things that got cut were the millions of dollars that we were spending to send condoms to the Taliban in Afghanistan? I mean, this is how ridiculous this has become.
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I was watching a press conference last night with Elon Musk. The press people were like, well, you know, that really wasn’t accurate. They were actually going to Mozambique or some other place. And Musk’s answer was, well, you know, we can be wrong on a few things, and we’ll correct what we’re wrong on. But the reality is, whether it’s Hamas or Mozambique, $50 million, by the way, is far too much for condoms. And furthermore, why are we doing that at all?
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And don’t tell me that stuff like that doesn’t get intercepted or transferred anyway over to the Taliban. And by the way, you know what the Taliban uses them for? Not just for raping a bunch of people that’s supposed to be against Islamic law anyway, but they also use them to make makeshift bombs. That’s right. And so it’s like – so the idea that it’s somehow now a controversial thing to –
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examine the guy look nobody is saying well hey we’re gonna take your social security check from you hey we’re gonna say nobody’s saying stuff no no in fact bob it’s the opposite of that because we’re now looking at every one of these areas because we’re going to trim some of this frivolous spending because we’re going to cut the fat if you would with government workers and so on all that does is shore up the other things that we need to make sure we pay for
SPEAKER 03 :
How many Democrat voters, John, how many Democrat voters have made jokes over the decades about here’s the government paying $20,000 for a hammer, $30,000 for a toilet seat and all that kind of stuff? It’s almost like a cliche joke. And so now suddenly, because that’s being cleaned up, this is controversial. I guarantee you if this were any if Barack Obama. created a department of doge, okay, that he would be heralded as such a genius and such a financially responsible. But it’s because it’s Trump. Anything Trump does is bad and wrong.
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Yeah. And again, for those of you listening to your point, Bob. They haven’t even gotten to the wasteful spending and things that are happening. But the only thing they’ve said when it comes to Social Security is, number one, there’s far too many on it. In other words, there’s a lot of dead people and people that shouldn’t even be receiving it that are on it that they’re going to go ahead and look at. So, again, at the end of the day, all they’re doing is going to shore up the things that we’re doing in those regards. The other thing I thought was funny, I don’t have it in my notes, Bob, but I thought it was funny. Elon was talking about this last night, and I just read this before I was watching the press conference last night. So all of the government retirees. Do you know how that’s processed? Have you read anything about that?
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I actually don’t know.
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Okay, so there is a cave. I’m not exaggerating. It’s called Iron Mountain. And it’s essentially a big cave they’ve dug out. The thing goes down, I don’t know how many different stories, into the deep. And the reality is everything with the retiree from the government… is done by hand, and I am not exaggerating. Iron Mountain is literally full of file cabinet after file cabinet after file cabinet. And Elon Musk was even saying last night, the reason why only so many retirees per day can be processed is because that’s how long it takes the elevator to go up and down the shaft to deliver the handwritten paperwork that has to go to start the process. And I am not exaggerating. I looked it up, and it is correct. That’s how antiquated some of this stuff is.
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Oh, wow. You know what? I hate to say it, but it really does funnel to Trump because the left, all they have to run on is anti-Trump. That’s really it. It doesn’t matter what he does. I’ve said this jokingly before. If Donald Trump found the cure for cancer, he would be attacked and criticized for putting oncologists out of business. There is nothing the man can do That anybody on the left and the mainstream press isn’t going to somehow, some way find the negative angle to look at that. That’s pretty much everything that they do. Half the stuff that Trump is doing, though, not all of it, but a lot of it that he’s doing would be applauded large if it were. You know what? This is really obscure. So bear with the old school dated reference here. OK, but remember COVID in the height of COVID when COVID first got launched on the scene. And here’s Trump holding daily press conferences, making himself transparent to the American public. And as they’re learning new information about COVID. He’s presenting it live in a fluid way to the American public. OK, but during one of those press conferences, he had his team of doctors sitting there and Trump turns to his doctors and says, you know, there’s this this. ultraviolet light use that’s been used that can show promise to maybe killing this. But then you’ve also got things like antiseptics and such that can kill viruses on surfaces immediately. We should be looking into seeing if there’s some way that this can be done like inside the body. Now that’s thinking outside the box. Right. I mean, we take all kind of stuff that you would normally not ingest. Like, for example, oh, I don’t know, nitroglycerin. Okay. But that can be modified medically to help heart patients. So if that were Obama saying something like that, everybody would be like, he’s such a forward thinker. But because it’s Trump, it got turned into Trump said to drink bleach if you have COVID. Right. He said no such thing. So I’m telling you, John, there is nothing that Trump is going to… The Abraham Accords, four, four Middle East peace deals. He’s got no credit for that. So there’s nothing the man can do because his name is Trump. And we just have to deal with that. And that’s why Trump toots his own horn as often as he does. But I got to say, I can’t blame him.
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Oh, that’s right, because when that pregnant mom sees an ultrasound image of her baby, number one, she usually accepts Jesus Christ as Savior. It’s very common. Pre-born is a Christian organization. But number two, she lets that baby live. She doesn’t go across the street to Planned Parenthood. So pre-born is all about showing as many ultrasound images to expectant moms as possible. And that’s why we’re asking everybody in the audience, pre-born. Pay for these ultrasound images, okay? $28 is the average ultrasound expense to stop one abortion. How many abortions will you be willing to stop? Take $28 times fill in the blank. Whatever that is, that’s your number. That’s your forever legacy of the amount of abortions you stopped. And hey, if you can buy an ultrasound machine, they’re 15 grand a piece. Nice tax write-off for you. But you know what? Your forever legacy is you’re stopping thousands and thousands of abortions year after year after year. So either way, we just want you to give. Go right now to CrawfordMediaGroup.net and click on Preborn. CrawfordMediaGroup.net, click on Preborn. And you know what? They have private donations that cover all overhead. So 100% of what you give goes to the ultrasounds, nothing else. So CrawfordMediaGroup.net, click on Preborn. Or just give them a call, 833-850-BABY, and they answer the phones 24-7. So 833-850-BABY. baby. And just mention National Crawford Roundtable when you call, John.
SPEAKER 02 :
Awesome. And real quick, just to reiterate, Iron Mountain, 330,000 square foot data center located more than 200 feet underground. It’s basically a limestone mine. It is exactly how Musk has described it. It takes a team of 700 workers manually processing about 10,000 federal retirement applications each month, by the way, not each day, each month, These applications are stored in a manila envelope and cardboard boxes with the work conducted in eight massive file caverns. And, Bob, you talk about things that we could streamline and get going in a better direction. It’s things like that, and I hope that Doge keeps going on those things. We’ll talk more about that, of course. in the second half but again folks those of you listening to the national crawford roundtable this has been the first half always appreciate you guys listening always appreciate the kind words reviews the things that you give us as well we appreciate that greatly you can find this podcast of course anywhere your favorite podcasts are played and again myself john rush out of denver colorado rush to reason bob duco from detroit michigan the bob duco show And Neil Boron, Neil Boron Live, who is not with us today. I believe Neil will be back with us next week. But guys, we’ll be right back. The second half of the National Crawford Roundtable is next.
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This is a Crawford Media Group production.
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All right, we are back. Second half, National Crawford Roundtable. Myself, John Rush, Denver, Colorado. Rush to Reason, Bob Duco, Detroit, Michigan, The Bob Duco Show. And Bob, I just look at government, and again, maybe because of my business background and what I do, and the reality is when you’re self-employed, you’ve got to be as efficient as possible in the things that you do because money… In a lot of cases, the margins are so thin, you’ve got to do every single thing you possibly can to address those things. And yet, I look at government, and always have, by the way. I’ve had experience selling to government and doing some things along those lines. And the inefficiencies, if there’s anything at all that Doge can do, that Elon Musk could do, would be to make government more efficient because there are many examples besides Iron Mountain whereby government is just absolutely… It’s almost like they’re incapable of doing anything efficiently.
SPEAKER 03 :
I know. You hate to say this, but that is one of the problems with a government as the end-all, be-all to all of our issues and all of our problems, okay? Because you create something like that, the quality is going to go down if you don’t have… You know, one of the best things, and you know this as a businessman, John, one of the best things to do to improve a quality and service and everything else is create competition and let the free market decide. That’s right. John, you know what? With your businesses that you run, I know you’re a quality guy, high standards. I get all that stuff. But you know something? If you had no competition whatsoever for customers and you just enjoyed a monopoly, you may not slide into laziness and the least path of resistance.
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Only people do.
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But you know something? A lot of your employees would. That’s right.
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They would. Because that’s what happens, Bob. And
SPEAKER 03 :
That’s right. And so in the government… Right. And so when the government gets to enjoy a monopoly in a whole bunch of different areas, and they have, in essence, taxpayer money tenure, okay, where they can’t get fired and they control things, they get lazy. Look at the public school system, okay? This is run by the government, managed from the federal government. And if you compare… public school outcomes to private school outcomes, you know what you see? Private schools, on average, cost about half the money of what taxpayers are paying for each student. And if you look at SAT scores, they’re dramatically higher. So the private sector and the free market is the way to improve the quality of everything. And the left wants to nationalize and have the government take over health care. Are you kidding me? Why would that be any different than things like postal service, various government-run programs that just go in the tank, unfortunately, the public school system? So, no, look, I’m with you. We need to de-governmentize as many things as we possibly can.
SPEAKER 02 :
Not everything. Not everything. No, there are certain things that government needs to be responsible for. Yeah, I don’t want to privatize the military. No, but on the same token, make it more efficient. Right.
SPEAKER 03 :
Right, exactly, exactly.
SPEAKER 02 :
By the way, when you were saying the fact that lack of competition just creates laziness, Bob, we could go back through time, including the children of Israel and some of the kings and how big and fat and happy they got, and the reality is that was their demise, Rome, others. I mean, we can go down through government nation after nation, and when you get fat and happy, that’s when you better be careful.
SPEAKER 03 :
And the government is fat and happy. Government programs are fat and happy. And, you know, it’s interesting because if I say that the issue is Trump here because the left hates Trump no matter what. So whatever he does is automatically wrong. If this were the other way around, OK, if, oh, I don’t know, George Soros decided he was going to run for president. as a leftist. The left wing and the media and everybody else would be saying, this is what we need, an outside businessman, successful billionaire businessman approach to come in and run the United States government like a business. They would be all over that.
SPEAKER 02 :
The problem is because of the man you just talked about, and the reality is he’s probably behind a lot of these slush funds and other things that are happening across the board. And The reality is, and we were going to talk about some of these activist judges, which, by the way, this is where he comes into play as well. And the reality is these activist judges putting a stop to everything Donald Trump wants to do. And all I can think about is, OK, wait a minute, time out. In other words, you don’t want government cleaned up. You don’t want this overspending taken care of. So evidently you’re on, we know what side you’re on if that’s the case. So the reality is you’re all for the destruction of the United States of America, financially speaking, because you don’t want this stuff cleaned up.
SPEAKER 03 :
That’s right. They really don’t. But I’ll tell you what, if if Donald Trump, though, if Donald Trump had decided that he was going to run for president as a liberal left wing Democrat, pro abortion, Hollywood lover, everything else, they would be celebrating what he’s doing. But it wouldn’t be in his DNA then to try to clean up and streamline the spending of the government. John, there’s something philosophically about the left wing brain that they see the United States government in a top down socialist Marxist philosophy of let them tell us how to live our lives and dole out to us whatever they think is best for us. For some crazy reason, this is what the left embraces. And I just for the life of me, I don’t get it.
SPEAKER 02 :
It’s hard to understand. I have a hard time even understanding the politicians that they want to go knock on Department of Education. They want to get in there. I’m guessing I know why they want to get in there because they don’t want some of these audits to happen because they’re afraid of what they’ll actually find, which, by the way, Bob, leads us to pre-born. The reality is they don’t want to stop abortions. They want to continue them on. They don’t care about the demise of They don’t care about the demise of people because the reality is as much as the left would say they love people, no, actually, Bob, they don’t. They don’t value life at all.
SPEAKER 03 :
I know. And abortion is a prime example of this. The left says, oh, we care about the weak, the poor, the vulnerable, helping those that are most in need. How much more in need and weak and vulnerable do you get than an unborn baby sucking his thumb in his mother’s womb and then having some forceps coming in there trying to rip his arms and legs off? This is a real thing happening every day. And that’s why we ask you folks in the audience, give to pre-born. Because pre-born stops these abortions. Not forcefully, you know how they do it? By persuasion. They change the hearts of these mothers by showing them ultrasound images of their babies. Hey, when these moms see a picture of their baby, that’s the first time they’ve ever seen what their baby looks like. They look at an ultrasound image, you go, wait a minute here, this is my baby sucking his thumb? And they don’t go across the street to Planned Parenthood. They say, okay, I’ll let that baby live. And then you know what? The pro-life centers help these moms care for the baby and everything else. But it starts with letting her see the ultrasound image. But that does take money, folks. And there’s a lot of women out there. that are not able to see ultrasound images of their babies because there’s just not enough money to show them to everybody. That’s where you folks come in. Give to pre-born. If you’ve given already, please give again. $28 is the average ultrasound expense to stop one abortion, to save one baby’s life. So pray about how many babies’ lives you’ll save. Take $28 times fill in the blank. That’s your number. Maybe God lays a number on your heart. And, hey, if you can buy an ultrasound machine, we need some of you to do that. It’s a nice tax write-off, $15,000 apiece. Your forever legacy is you’re stopping thousands and thousands of abortions every year. So either way, give now to Preborn. Go to CrawfordMediaGroup.net and click on Preborn. CrawfordMediaGroup.net, click on Preborn. You can give right there. Or you can give over the phone to a real-life person. They answer 24-7, 833-850-BABY. Just call 833-850-BABY. And don’t forget, private donors cover all overhead. So 100% of what you give goes to the ultrasound. So 833-850-BABY. Baby just mentioned National Crawford Roundtable when you call. We appreciate you folks supporting our sponsors to this podcast. We do. Preborn, SunPower LED, which, John, I got to tell you, this photobiomodulation technology is incredible. I know from firsthand experience how well this works and getting me out of pain.
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SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah. Well, actually, this is who they are. Again, I hate to keep making this ideological, but this is part of liberal left-wing ideology also. And that is that we want our way. We don’t want a fair fight. And everything is like a childish mine. It’s like, no, it’s the other team’s turn now. Now they get a turn to be in control and be in charge. I You never saw cases of conservative or right wing or Republican appointed judges stepping in and trying to tell a Democrat administration that the secretary of Treasury is not allowed access to the data in the Treasury Department. I mean, this is absolutely insane. It’s ludicrous. I’ll give you a chance to go ahead and buy out. If you don’t accept it, don’t accept it. But you can accept it. And a judge is going to step in and put a halt to that. Nope, you’re not allowed to do that, too. There comes a point where this is to the point of absurd. I mean, it really is that these left wing judges decide. You know what they’re really doing, John? They’re using the power of their robes to throw a monkey wrench into anything that Donald Trump does to basically keep him from being successful and effective in the job that he does. And they’re using the power. They’re abusing the power of their office. It’s no different than people like Alvin Bragg, Letitia James, Fannie Willis.
SPEAKER 01 :
That’s right.
SPEAKER 03 :
these various DAs and prosecutors saying, hey, I’ve got power. I’ve got authority. I’m going to use it for no other purpose than to throw marbles on the floor in front of Donald Trump.
SPEAKER 02 :
Mm-hmm. That’s exactly right.
SPEAKER 03 :
It’s obscene.
SPEAKER 02 :
No, it is, Bob.
SPEAKER 03 :
That can’t be legal. How do they not get impeached? How do they not get in criminal trouble for this?
SPEAKER 02 :
I don’t know. Well, and this is nothing that baffles me, yet I’ll go on social media in different places and some of the websites and so on, and I’ll read some of the comments on some of the different stories and so on, and the amount of people that defend… this activity saying well you know it’s these jobs of these judges to keep the executive branch in check which by the way i would agree on certain levels this is not that level though bob there’s nothing illegal there’s nothing wrong with what donald trump is doing right now when it comes to freezing funds and are performing audits on what’s going on inside of the government and by the way something that we haven’t talked about yet on this program which i think is really smart i don’t know who came up with this whether it was donald trump whether it was elon musk or there was some other advisor but Doge is very legal because all they did was essentially, quote unquote, repurpose another office that was formed under Obama. So it is what some people out there would say is completely illegal. Some of the politicians even, you know, Maxine Waters and so on. The reality is it is completely legal because all Trump did was repurpose something that Obama started.
SPEAKER 03 :
That’s right. And but this is how the left operates. And that includes these judges. All they have to do is say, I don’t like this that Trump is doing. I don’t like this particular agenda, this decision. So I’m going to try to stop it and I’ll just call it. Unconstitutional. You can call it that all day long. OK, but the executive branch has the constitutional authority to operate and manage the executive branch. I mean, they’re allowed to do that. Trump’s not allocating extra money for something.
SPEAKER 02 :
No, he’s actually taking it away.
SPEAKER 03 :
Exactly. And by the way, he’s not taking that money and distributing it to a bunch of shareholders or to his cabinet, okay, like a C Corp does. No. He’s putting it back in the coffers of the United States government, which is owned by the American people. So he’s basically replenishing the American people’s bank account in Washington, D.C. That’s all he’s doing. How is this not only not a wrong thing, How is it in any stretch unconstitutional?
SPEAKER 02 :
It’s not. In fact, I sent you something where I had read today, and it pulled up Article II of the Constitution, which establishes the executive branch of the federal government. And number seven here says, the court has recognized that officials appointed by the president, even those located within the executive branch, may exercise regulatory or adjudicative powers that are quasi-legislative or quasi-judicial. In other words, everything that he is doing right now is well within his powers to do. And to your point, Bob, yeah, because he doesn’t control the purse, per se, although Biden did when it comes to spending with Ukraine and things along those lines. That’s a whole other topic for another day. This is the opposite of that. He is actually pulling things back. But again, Bob, it goes back to the things that we talk about constantly on this podcast, and I do on my show, and I know you and Neil do as well. And the reality is… This other side, the left, the Marxist left, they know one of the plays in their playbook is essentially financially break the United States. If they can financially break the United States, it triggers some things and sets off things for us as a country that enables them to grab more power and have more control at the end of the day. So it is, for those of you listening, it is their goal to break the United States financially. That right now, anyways, for the time being, has been stopped.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, and especially if it’s Donald Trump and the Republicans are in control. And it’s so ironic, too, that I remember back when Barack Obama was in office and the controversy that was so huge because Rush Limbaugh, the late great Rush Limbaugh, said, I hope he fails. Now, he wasn’t saying he hopes Obama fails in the entire running of the American government. What he was saying was, and I understood this, I hope he fails in his efforts to push through some of his liberal leftist agenda that he wants to, which is really ironic because Barack Obama would be considered a moderate in today’s Democrat Party. But that was such a huge controversy. Gallup was taking polls in America. Is it right to say that you want the president to fail and such? Yet right now, here we are, 2025, and we’re actively watching Democrats in Congress openly trying to make the president fail openly trying to uh basically put roadblocks in front of him judges using their power to do this to try for violence in the streets bob i mean we’ve got politicians maxine waters and others that are doing the streets that’s right let’s fight in the streets oh my goodness you know so by the way if anybody on our side
SPEAKER 02 :
were to come out and do some of the things that they’re doing, we would be called treasonous, we would be called anti-American, we would be called everything under the sun, Bob, but they can get by with it and it’s not a problem at all.
SPEAKER 03 :
By the way, John, one of the things, and I know I’m really beating up on liberals and progressives now, but is there anything that will cause them to see irony in their own Democrat party? I mean, think about this. Chuck Schumer just this week… launched a new website, okay, calling for people to be whistleblowers to show examples of fraud, abuses of power, wasteful spending. This is the language that he used in the government. Fraud, abuses of power, wasteful spending. Are you kidding me? As Ted Cruz posted on X, yeah, I got somebody to report. I’d like to report Joe Biden, okay, and Kamala Harris and Chuck Schumer. But they don’t even see the dripping irony of four years of wasteful spending, fraud, and certainly abuse of power weaponizing the government. They don’t even see. I’m thinking 20 shell corporations to funnel and launder millions of dollars of foreign money to be distributed to your family members or the president. I’m thinking that’s one of the kind of things whistleblowers would point to.
SPEAKER 02 :
You are 100% correct. It’ll be interesting to see how some of these things go. And by the way, I went to that website, and I might actually fill something out in regards to what the left continually does when it comes to the wasteful spending and the things that they do. Real quick before we move on, I do want to talk about the White House Faith Office really quick before we close out today. We might even want to continue that on next week. But reality is, Senator… Andy Kim, that’s a Democrat from New Jersey, he indicated Sunday that he is open to working with other Democrats to actually deny Republicans the votes necessary to keep government funded ahead of that deadline that’s coming up next month. Now, isn’t the left that’s always accusing the right of wanting to shut down the government, Bob? Once again, I hate to keep beating them up, but they’re showing their true colors.
SPEAKER 03 :
They really are. They really are. And again, it’s the philosophy of whatever we can do to trip them up, to stop them up, to throw a monkey wrench into the gears. Let’s just try to stop them from being effective and going forward. And really what they’re saying is let’s stop more than half of the American public from getting what they voted for. That’s really what they’re saying. And so but I got to say something about the Paula White thing, because I’m kind of curious. also to hear what your take on this. Here’s mine. I’ve had some listeners email me going, Bob, come on, you have to have a problem with this. Donald Trump naming Paula White or Paula White Cain to head up the faith office and such. And maybe I’m looking at this wrong, John, but here’s my take on this, okay? This is what I said to my audience as well on my own show. Paula White, I mean, I know the lady, well, somewhat. I mean, I’ve interviewed her on the show over the years. I’ve shared the stage with her at events, okay? And so it’s like, okay, fine. I don’t agree with her prosperity gospel preaching. I don’t, okay? Theologically, doctrinally, as a Christian, I think that’s wrong. And so if Donald Trump created an office for defining proper Christian doctrine in America, and she was the head of that— then I would have a problem with it. But you know what? That’s not her job. Her job is to make sure that Christians are not discriminated against and that we have a seat at the table and that we have a fair shot in America to let our voices be heard. If that’s the case, that is irrelevant to whether her doctrine and how she interprets certain areas of Scripture is accurate or not. That is irrelevant to that. So for that reason… I just think this is a bunch of unnecessary splitting hairs about—it’s looking for an excuse to criticize Donald Trump. All right, so what if she’s prosperity gospel? I wouldn’t want her as my pastor, and I wouldn’t allow that kind of teaching to be taught as theological doctrine—
SPEAKER 02 :
But that’s not what’s going to come out of this anyway, so it’s irrelevant. Yeah, she’s not.
SPEAKER 03 :
She’s not going to be talking about that. So why is this an issue people are dying on?
SPEAKER 02 :
To your point, it’s bringing awareness to our faith, especially to the Christian faith. Again, I like you. Am I a big fan of hers? Would I rather have seen somebody like Graham or somebody like that in there? The problem is Robert Jeffress, frankly. Yeah, exactly. The problem, though, Bob, and you know this as well as I is, yes, there are some politics involved in this. All right, Bob. And by the way, one thing we should talk about, too, when it comes to the White House faith office and don’t know exactly what they’ll do when it comes to putting out proclamations on abortions and things along those lines. But the reality is we put out one on a weekly basis because we do that with our partner pre-born.
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SPEAKER 03 :
You know, I just I love it that the liberal left wingers at Google, even they are like, oh, it’s not worth it. Let’s not fight Donald Trump on this. And so, yeah, Google Maps is calling it Gulf of America. Good. Apple Maps is calling it Gulf of America. But you know who won’t do that? Associated Press won’t do that. I don’t know if you saw that. They’re whining and complaining because Associated Press. refuses to call it Gulf of America. They’re still calling it Gulf of Mexico. So you know what the White House did? Said, okay, well then fine. We’re having an event inside the Oval Office and the press comes in. The Associated Press reporter was denied entrance. Sorry you’re not allowed in. I love it. And now they’re complaining going, this is denying freedom of speech and First Amendment. No, it’s not. No, it’s not. You have the freedom of speech to write your AP article complaining about why they didn’t let you in there.
SPEAKER 02 :
And they have the right to deny you not to come in.
SPEAKER 03 :
That’s right.
SPEAKER 02 :
Exactly.
SPEAKER 03 :
I love it. And by the way, why not call it Gulf of America? It’s ours. We have this notion that the president isn’t allowed to make big changes sometimes. Sure. Why not? Okay. Barack Obama renamed Mount McKinley.
SPEAKER 02 :
That’s right.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay. And Trump changed that back. And so if he wants to rename it Gulf of—and that actually makes logical sense because, like I said, I looked up the actual shoreline. America has about 60 percent of the shoreline of the Gulf of Mexico. Mexico has about 40 percent. It’s been renamed for—it’s been falsely named for the last hundreds of years.
SPEAKER 02 :
And we patrol it, protect it, take care of it anyway, so rightfully so. All right. We’ve got to run, guys. Again, we appreciate you guys listening. CrawfordMediaGroup.net is where you can find it. And, again, you’ve been listening to the National Crawford Roundtable. I’ve been your host, John Rush, out of Denver, Colorado. Rush to Reason, Bob Duco, Detroit, Michigan, with the Bob Duco Show, and, of course, Neil Boron. Neil Boron Live was not with us, but he’ll be with us next week. Guys, thank you very much. God bless you all. This is the National Crawford Roundtable.
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