In today’s episode of The Kim Munson Show, we welcome guest host Brad Beck for a deep dive into conservative principles and the ongoing political battles at the heart of Colorado’s statehouse. As Brad and Kim engage in vibrant dialogue, they underscore the importance of preserving individual rights and freedom in the face of increasing government control. This episode serves as a reminder of the vital need to participate in the battle of ideas and the essential role that independent voices play in shaping our future.
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Indeed, let’s have a conversation. Welcome to the Kim Munson Show. Thank you so much for joining us. You’re each treasured, you’re valued. You have purpose today. Strive for excellence. Take care of your heart, your soul, your mind, and your body. My friends, we were made for this moment in history. Thank you to the team, Producer Joe, Luke, Rachel, Zach, Echo, Charlie, Mike, Teresa, Amanda, all the people here at Crawford Broadcasting. Thank you, Producer Joe. It’s great to have you behind the board.
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It’s really fun being behind the board. Honestly, I get to hit all the buttons that usually people don’t get to hit.
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And there’s a lot of buttons when I look at that board, that’s for sure. And in studio with me is my friend Brad Beck. And Brad, you guest hosted the show last week. This is becoming your home away from home.
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I’m enjoying it. It’s a lot of fun to be here with your listeners, and I appreciate the opportunity. And good morning, Colorado.
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Well, it’s great to have you. We’ll talk about your essay, The Town Square, here as our featured guest in this hour. And lots going on, Brad. And so let’s go ahead and jump into all of the things that we do. First of all, I wanted to say thank you to the Harris family for their gold sponsorship of the show. And Brad, as you know, we’re an independent voice on an independent station searching for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through this lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. And these independent voices are super important.
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Well, it’s important to have your sponsors because they do the thing that most people don’t, and they financially back your voice and free speech. We appreciate it. And we’re going to talk about free speech. We are.
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And actually, George Washington knew this. There was some quote. It’s along the line, if we don’t have free speech, then it’ll be like lambs going to the slaughter. And free speech is so important. And, Brad, you and I have lived through it. I remember political correctness. That was really a form of self-censorship. Didn’t quite realize it. And those of us, we wanted to have good manners. And, okay, we won’t talk about politics or religion. Well, what else do you talk about?
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Well, the evil of sex or something. I don’t know. Oh, yeah, exactly. There’s that other thing, too. Yeah. But, you know, you need free speech because if you’re not able to have a voice, the opposition wins. And I know in business it’s very difficult because you want to have a wide variety of customers. You don’t want to say this group is right and this group is wrong when you’re trying to service customers. It shouldn’t be about that. But oftentimes you are self-censored because you want to grow your business. And so you have to be strategic about it. And the old saying of don’t say anything that you wouldn’t say around your grandmother or mother, you know, applies in that case. But today you have to be a little bit stronger and say, you know what, you can’t say those certain things around people and not get away with it, you know.
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Well, that makes me even think of our sponsors because we, you know, clearly we are focused on the conservative principles. And that word conservative, we need to reclaim that. It’s been demonized. Now they say it’s good to conserve water, conserve energy, conserve here. But what does conservative really mean? And I want to reclaim that word. And what it means is to conserve and preserve these principles, right? that we see in the declaration that we are all created equal with these rights from God of life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness. And then, of course, in the Constitution that’s put in place to make sure that we can protect that vision. And so what we need to conserve that. And then I was having a great discussion last night with Jessica Passan. I had the girls were over. last night, and she’s with the Colorado Hispanic Republicans. And this evening at Wide Open Saloon, the Colorado Hispanic Republicans will be hosting a forum with the candidates for the state GOP chair. And Jessica is just fervent on her concern for our country. And she said, Kim, we need to be able to unite. And I was thinking about this morning, she’s absolutely correct, but what do we reunite behind? And I think that’s one of the things that’s been so interesting about Trump with make America great again. That’s an easy thing for people to understand to unite behind. So we need to unite behind these principles of our founding. If somebody wants to take that down, I don’t see how I can unite with them.
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What would you say to that? You mentioned conservative principles, but I think they’re American principles. They’re not just right or left. They are correct. This country was founded on the idea of individual rights. That’s what makes us exceptional because for the first time in human history, our founders came together and recognized those universal equal natural rights where other countries did not. So when I look at a place like the United Nations, And you have certain countries, China, Russia, on the human rights commissions. Really? With the Uyghurs in China? Right. I mean, they don’t recognize the rights that those people have because it’s inherent. They are human beings. It’s in all human beings, whether you’re in the Democratic Republic of Congo, which is an oxymoron, where they’re killing Christians and minorities there, or… Any place in the world, we all have these equal natural rights. The problem is governments don’t recognize them. America did. And there was a time when it didn’t matter what political flavor you were, you recognized them as well as a citizen, a fellow citizen. So we have to bring that idea back. The idea of being conservative, to me, is honoring our heritage, our shared values of honoring other individuals, letting them freely pursue their happiness. And happiness, rightly understood to me, is self-mastery. You don’t steal from other people. You don’t take what’s not yours. You don’t harm other people. You let people pursue their self-mastery of themselves. And if we have people understanding the true value of that, the true meaning, then there’s less acrimony. It’s like I think Dennis Prager was always saying about If you had biblical ideas, but mainly the Ten Commandment ideas, you know, thou shall not steal. Although the ten ideas that were from the very beginning from a biblical base, I think that helped people. It didn’t matter what political party they were. They knew their values, and it was universal in this country. And it wasn’t until the progressive era, really at the end of the late 1800s, the beginning of the 1900s, where things started to change. and the new ideas from Europe, the Frankfurt School really started to become more endemic in both our academic institutions, business, and in people’s lives every day.
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Brad, it’s so interesting that you would mention Prager because you and I are starting to read each other’s minds, and I’m getting a little worried about that. Because I was just thinking about Prager as you then brought him up, and he said of all the Ten Commandments, is there one more important? And again, I’m paraphrasing how I remember the— the radio show, and he said that he thought maybe the number one would be Thou Shalt Not Steal. And as you know, because you’re on the show a lot and also you guest host it, is I have in here that it’s not compassionate to take other people’s rights. But I could change that word to steal, that to steal other people’s rights or their property, their freedom, their livelihoods, opportunities. Our children, they’re trying to steal their childhoods. Or their lives. And force obviously can be weapons. We all know that. But you and I were talking on our way in. The policies that are being pushed down here at the statehouse are taking away so much. And it’s stealing it. And that goes against the Ten Commandments. And so remember, if something’s a good idea, you shouldn’t have to use force. You shouldn’t have to use force so you can steal it. Because that’s really what happens with force is you’re stealing something, right?
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We have to have better ideas, bigger ideas, ideas that people can relate to. And we win by persuasion. We don’t win by force. Let the opposition think that they can have force and that’s all they have. But you saw it in November of last year. People are smarter than that. They didn’t want to be forced to continue living their lives under the dictatorial edicts of the previous administration. And you see people who are patient right now with President Trump and what he’s trying to accomplish. There’s going to be some pain before we really see the other side of day. And I don’t like tariffs. I’m a free market guy, but I understand what he’s trying to accomplish. And it may not be, you know, within the first six months. It may be 12 months. It may be 18 months. But it’s got to go through. Otherwise, we really are stealing our posterity’s future. We are taking away the opportunity and the hope that every American should have, and that is freedom. And we’re losing it. And even though President Trump and his team are doing well, yeoman’s work i mean it’s amazing what what the epa uh zeldin did yesterday and unwrapping this gordian knot people don’t realize how much we are being constricted every day and as you read even here in colorado what 400 plus new laws i mean give me a break let me give you the number as of this morning okay this is from bill track 50 543 bills or resolutions I mean, I’m going down to the Capitol today with some fifth graders because I do a program we call Liberty Day through our Optimist Club, and we expose young kids to the idea of the American founding, the Declaration, the Constitution, and then we bus them down to the Capitol so they can see the buildings and maybe interact with some folks. But it starts young, and we have to continue it. There’s no stop date. It’s a continuum. It is. And people have this feeling, oh, it’s election, we voted, we’re done. No, my friends, we need to be engaged in whatever capacity. Just pick one issue and go down to the Capitol once a year and speak at one of the committee meetings or give support to those who do. Because if we don’t, if we take a vacation, the other side is never complacent.
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If we all just took one thing, and that’s why the Colorado Union of Taxpayers is doing such great work. You can be informed. Join us. It’s only $25. And our volunteers, and I want to give you their names so that you can say thank you to them. That’s Steve Dorman, Greg Golianski, Russ Haas, Bill Hamill, Rob Knuth, John Nelson, Wendy Warner, Marty Nielsen, Ramey Johnson, Mary Jansen, Dave Evans. Corey Onazorg, Paula Beard, and Ray Beard. This team, every Friday, every weekend, I go through on Friday evenings and go through the bills that are scheduled for the hearing for the next week and select bills for them to review and take positions on. They work all weekend, and they get those positions. Typically, they are posted by Sunday at 5. And then bless Mary Jansen and Dave Evans and Steve Dorman. And Wendy Warner, then they’ve gone through and they’ve written bill summaries for us. And then I work to get this email that goes out on Mondays to all the legislators. You will get that email as well if you join us. But that way you’ll, first of all, I think knowledge is power. People have said, well, Kim, why should I join the union of taxpayers? Is it making a difference? And I know it seems crazy down there. But if you don’t, first of all, know what’s going on, there’s no way you can make a difference, right?
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Oh, yeah, I’ve been a member of the organization since Don Beasley ran for HD33, and he signed that cut bill. That cut pledge. The pledge, right. And, you know, for $25, it’s two cups of coffee at Starbucks. I mean, you know, give yourself an opportunity to do something with that $25 that really invests in what you do. You guys don’t get paid. You do it because it needs to be done. Yeah. And there’s other folks that do scorecards as well. They need support because they’re trying to expose what’s happening down at the capitol.
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Right. And you mentioned scorecards, Liberty scorecards. Sue Moore, her team is really doing a lot of great work as well. I think we’re the two games in town on this. Right. And so that’s important. A couple of things. Let’s get to our word of the day, which is idiom. My friend Liz gave this to me yesterday. And I’m still not sure if I can use this in a sentence. It’s I-D-I-O-M. And it could be an expression in the usage of a language that’s peculiar to itself. having a meaning that cannot be derived from the cojoined meanings of its elements, such as in the air for undecided, or grammatically atypical use of words such as give way. Number two, it says the language peculiar to a people or district like a dialect. Number three, the syntactical, grammatical, or structural form peculiar to a language. And the last could be a style or a form of artistic expression, as in jazz idiom. So you probably know that because you were the kosher cowboy right in the rock and roll.
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Back in the day when I had hair. Well, down at the Capitol, they use a different idiom. They use terminology that sounds different. Very nice, very accommodating, and it’s often very deceitful. It’s the kind of language that goes through many layers, so it sounds well, and when you vote yes, it’s no, and then the consequences flow from that. So we have to be careful of many different idioms.
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Okay, and it’s I-D-I-O-M. Well done. And so good on that. Our quote of the day, and I chose this from George Orwell because we’ll be talking about your essay. George Orwell was, I didn’t realize this, was born Eric Arthur Blair. Did you know that?
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You probably did, of course.
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And born in 1903. He died in, excuse me, 1950. He was an English novelist, poet, essayist, journalist, and critic, and he wrote under the pen name of George Orwell. And he said this, if liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear, Brad.
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It’s important to hear all voices. You may not agree with them, but it makes you sharper and it makes you have the ability to at least have a different viewpoint and respectfully have dialogue. Rather than talking past each other, you’re at least addressing the issues that are at hand. And I think one of the bigger problems we have in America is we keep talking past each other, not actively listening, and then rebutting what somebody says in a way that persuades those that are listening around.
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Absolutely. And then, excuse me. The last thing that I wanted to mention was our bill of the day is House Bill 25-1198, the Regional Planning Roundtable Commission concerning the creation of a Regional Planning Roundtable Commission and the prime sponsors on that are All Democrats, Representative Meg Froelich, Representative Kyle Brown, Senator Faith Winter, this again is another grab to take away local control and to try to push control of our communities into government control, basically, is what it is. Cut is a hard no on this as well, but I want to keep people informed of bills down there on that, Brad.
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It’s important that people see what the bills are for, and oftentimes it is the pure evil of power. There’s no reason we need more government and we need more laws. I mean, people got along without him for 150 years before our declaration was even brought to the forefront. And Mr. Jefferson’s brilliant words, we got along somehow. We didn’t need more permission. We didn’t need more accommodation by a group of power hungry individuals. And I think that’s what they are. Otherwise, they’d let people pursue their own self-mastery.
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pursue their happiness right well absolutely so we’re going to talk with our minority republican leader ty weeder and ty winter winter and ty winter here in just a moment and all this happens because of our sponsors one of those great sponsors is the roger mangan state farm insurance team
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Welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We’re an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. Something’s a good idea. You should not have to force people to do it. So pleased to have on the line with me Representative Ty Winter. He represents Colorado House District 47, and he is the Assistant House Minority Leader down at the House. And Brad Beck in studio with me, co-founder of Liberty Toastmasters. The girls were over last night, and there was a hearing on Brandi Bradley’s bill that was regarding – criminals that are raping children and to try to protect children. And one of my colleagues, Patty, was in the queue to testify. She finally left at 1015 last night. She was still in the queue. Gammy sent me a text message, said at one o’clock that they’d still been there. This is crazy what’s happening. And these Republicans down there at the statehouse to be down there that late. then have to go back down there the next day and fight this is amazing. So I’m so pleased to have Representative Winter on the phone, Brad.
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Good morning.
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Morning, Kim. Thank you both for having me. I appreciate you this fine morning.
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Well, we appreciate you as well, Representative Winter. So what do we need to know? What’s Coloradans need to know about what you guys are facing down there at the Statehouse?
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Well, you know, I want to first start off with the topic you were talking about when we jumped in, and that was House Bill 251073, protections against child rape. And, you know, I want to commend Representative Bradley. You know, she’s a self-proclaimed mama bear. She comes to this Capitol and she swings hard for kids and parental rights. And, you know, at 2 a.m., that bill finally died under the cover of darkness. But, you know, at the end of the day, she was in the fight. She was in the right fight. And I’m honored to serve next to her as she, you know, keeps trying to pursue ways to protect children. It don’t make sense to us, a lot of this stuff in here. But you know what, Kim, we’re in the fight. And there’s something that an old timer told me once, and it rings true. He goes, you know, Ty, you know, Jesus never guaranteed you were going to win every battle, but he asked you to be in the fight for good. So she definitely was in the fight for good. And, you know, I’m honored to serve next to her.
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So you said then finally that bill did was not did not move on then last night, huh? After all of that testimony.
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No, ma’am, 2 a.m. You know, it died last night at 2 a.m., which is unfortunate. But that doesn’t mean the fight is not over.
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Oh, hold on. I got myself mixed up. So we wanted that to pass, and it died. Okay. I had this glimmer of hope, and then I realized, oh, I was looking at it from the wrong. So they went ahead, and they did not pass a bill down there to protect children from rapists. Am I getting that right now, Representative Winter?
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Yes, ma’am. Even on the Colorado House Republicans, if you want to check out their Twitter or Facebook page, it said a failure to protect Colorado’s children, House Bill 251070C, sponsored by Rep. Bradley, died and killed in committee at 2 a.m.
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Wow. OK, Representative Winter. I have an early morning hit at 6 a.m., so certainly I understand crazy hours. So what is this going to look like? All of those in committee were there until 2 a.m. Let’s think about it, getting to their cars, probably getting home, maybe 3 o’clock, probably pretty whipped up just with all that’s happened. And then what time does everybody have to be back and start today?
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Everybody rolls in. You know, start time is at 9. That’s when we gavel in. But, you know, if we’re going to do the job right, we have to get her earlier. And we’ve all been going through it. You know, we did Senate Bill 3 a couple nights ago. I came in yesterday on three hours of sleep. I went home last night and slept from 7 last evening until 5 this morning. So it was a good recoup and recover. That’s one thing I want to say is I am honored to serve next to the other 21 House Republicans that we have. We’re fighters. We stay in the fight. And at the end of the day, no matter how tired we are, we show up and we fight for the values of our constituents. And it’s a great honor to be part of this team, to be elected the assistant minority leader and to fight alongside these good individuals.
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Well, Representative Winter, first of all, thank you. We’re just, what, kind of halfway through, maybe a little, or very close to halfway through. And as you know, I’m the president of the Colorado Union of Taxpayers, and we are watching legislation there. And we use this thing, Bill Track 50, which is really great, because I can get a quick synopsis on what’s happening. And as of this morning, there’s been 543 bills or resolutions that have been introduced. We don’t really need another bill. And I have been pleased that many Republicans have proposed things to try to roll some of these laws back. Of course, they typically don’t make it out of committee. But halfway through, what do people know? What can people do to help? We want to reclaim Colorado. I think we’re at the tip of the spear. We’re trying to take that beach in our ideological Normandy. What should people know?
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They need to keep testifying. I think part of the opposition’s plan is to wear everybody down and just make them feel like that there is no hope, and there is hope. There’s always a glimmer of hope, Kim. We are busy. We’re a little past halfway of session, and it has been fast and furious. It’s a lot different feeling in the building this year. I think with Trump being elected, it has really heightened. tensions in the building definitely on the other side there just that’s all they talk about in committee I mean it’s Trump anti-trump you know immigration so that’s really been living in their minds rent-free I’m gonna come back to the bill that you’re talking about there are a a lot a republican bill that died but there’s a lot a good republican bill to get through that really work to you know protect their communities I’ve been really working hard for small town in rural Colorado this year so I think that there’s you know there’s spots where we win, there’s more spots where we lose. And that’s just the makeup of the building. But I think for what is going on this year, I think we have a really solid team with our new incoming freshmen. I think everybody’s bringing mindful legislation. And we don’t even always agree with each other on that because every district is different and every district has their needs. And even though we’re all conservative Republicans, we also believe in governing through the consent of the governed and having representative government. And there’s just certain issues that are i guess more niche to different parts of the district so i say we agree most of the time there’s sometimes we don’t disagree but that’s the beautiful thing about the republican party is we’re the we’re the side of all ideas we listen to everybody we don’t push anybody out and we really try to bring everybody’s ideas together to move towards the common good so we have a lot of work left to do but i think that this team is ready to get it done
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Well, in some ways, I feel like on the freedom side, it’s like trying to herd wild horses because there’s something about freedom, which is it’s great, but it’s also it can be challenging, Brad.
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Well, we don’t walk in lockstep like the left does. We have a lot of good ideas, and Representative Winter is a perfect example of that. He represents a rural community and rural district. And, you know, it’s very different from where I live in the People’s Republic of Boulder, where a lot of this craziness is generated from.
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Well, and so supporting all of you, and it might even be just sending an email to your legislator, your Republican legislator, just saying thank you. I think even that can just be very helpful. Don’t you think so, Ty? Because sometimes it can seem, I think, a little lonely when you’re out there fighting this fight. And so knowing that people just have your back is a good thing, yes? Yes.
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Yes, ma’am. The phone calls, the prayers, the prayers are huge. And what, you know, we’ve had, we have groups come in and they’ll bring us lunch. They’ll, you know, do a home cooking smorgasbord for us last Friday. Representative Lux County, home county came in and brought, I mean, a smorgasbord, all home cooked food, which makes everybody feel good because You know, another thing that’s really hard down here is to take care of your not only mental health, but your physical health. You’re eating pizza and Chick-fil-A. You’re not moving around much. So it’s always nice when we get a home-cooked meal brought in, and we have a lot of groups do that for us. And that makes it nice for us, too. So the prayers, the kind words, the calls, you know, the come down here, pat on back of encouragement. And who can go wrong with bringing food to people, especially when they’re used to eating fast food? So a home-cooked meal is always nice as well.
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You know, that’s so funny that you had mentioned that. When I was on student council, or student council, city council, oh my gosh. It was like student council. It was like student council, but I was thinking about, I felt like a lot of city council people put on the freshman 15, you know, the 15 pounds that girls would put on when they went to college. Because, again, you’re eating all of this other stuff. And so, yeah, a home-cooked meal. I wish I was there because I’m from western Kansas, which bumps up where Stephanie Luck’s district is. And I know what that home cooking is like. And I wish I would have been down there for that representative winter.
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Yeah, it was great. It was great. One thing I did want to touch on, if you don’t mind, is I really wanted to touch on Senate Bill 3. Please do. If we could chat about that a little bit. You know, that’s the most egregious anti-2A piece of legislation to ever come through the building. I think it’s even more egregious than the first two attempts is the way that they’re working their way around. They’re going to house the control of it in CPW. which is an end around, but what’s really frustrating is I sat in on testimony. I was subbed in with Representative Ryan Armagost, Representative Caldwell, and Representative Sober, and we heard testimony from probably about 10.30 in the morning until about 10.30 at night. majority of testimony was pro second amendment but the arguments were so much different this time kim i mean of course it’s constitutional right you know unalienable god-given right we have the normal second amendment arguments but it was really interesting to see how constituents started to dig in um we heard from folks that gun rights are civil rights we heard from communities of of color um we heard from all different um you know uh racist colors and creeds it was really interesting to hear how you know gun rights or civil rights. We also heard from folks with learning disabilities because part of the process now, if this bill passes, to buy some of these weapons that they deem assault rifles is you’re going to have to take classes. And we’ve had people come in and say, I don’t read that well. You know, I’m not a test taker. I have issues. Then the financial barrier is because to take these classes and then to pay your sheriff to give you this card, I mean, that’s making guns for the rich, which I think is totally opposite of what our founders wanted. So they’re creating a class, it’s class warfare, and it allows the most people with the most money to have guns. We talked about source causes, mental health. We talked about lack of morality and family values. And like I said, the sheriffs were not only adamantly against it because they’re constitutionalists, but they were against it because they just think it’s unenforceable. And then now they have to add more employees, unfunded mandates to go ahead and be able to process these applications. Another thing that was brought up is can CPW even do the job? We know how bureaucracy is and how mucked up it gets. And, you know, is the money going to come away from our wildlife and our beautiful state parks? So that’s another issue. And then I guess the most disheartening thing about it was is most of our constituents, they testified and they figured out that the gun laws in Colorado are meant to be death by a thousand cuts. They say they’re not on the face value or in court. They say that these laws aren’t unconstitutional, but they’re usurping the Constitution. It’s an end around it. And they’ve lost the spirit of the Second Amendment. And we all know that that is. And I think a lot of people are afraid to say it because of the stigma that comes with it. But the Second Amendment is meant to keep government in line. End stop. It’s great to have it for hunting. It’s great to have it for self-defense, even in your own home. But end stop, the Second Amendment, a hard stop is to keep government in line. And that way people have some type of rebuttal to the government if things get bad. So, you know, it was great to see the gun community come out, the Second Amendment community come out, the constitutional community come out. But it was disheartening when we saw like three to one testimony against the bill and ideology carried the day. Because if the Democrats on the panel would have been listening to the constituents in front of them, I think it would have been a different night. But I think all of them came in with their minds made up on how they were going to vote. We took the vote. And at the end of the day, the Second Amendment took another hit.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, and I think it is death by a thousand cuts. And one of the things with our Bill Track 50, I asked our designer on this to give me some key words. And I asked her to put in firearms. And as of right now, there’s 22 bills. that have the word firearms in them down there at the State House. So I think also, Representative Winter, is one of the things they’re trying to do with this bill is to take all this attention over here. And there’s some other bad bills that are being passed. And I dance around this a little bit because when I talk about the Second Amendment, I say that it was put in place so that we can protect ourselves against bad actors. And many times you can think that could be bad guys or girls trying to knock down your door or whatever. But a bad actor can be government as well. And so I do dance around that. But I also mean and I understand that, that that is one of the reasons the Second Amendment is there. Last question. I know we’re going over a little bit on this, but super fascinating. Yeah. Polis wants to run for president. He’s trying to paint himself as a libertarian. If 003, the Senate Bill 25003, the magazine bill, makes it to his desk, he can either sign it, he can leave it on his desk, and if he doesn’t veto it, it becomes law. He’s going to be in a bit of a conundrum. And he’s got really shrewd political handlers. Do you think he’s going to veto this so that he can appear more libertarian? Or do you have any ear to the ground on that whatsoever?
SPEAKER 12 :
To be honest with you, when it first came out of the Senate, I thought there was a chance, but I think these amendments are really for the governor. I don’t think these amendments for the Senate or the House, because I think even in its most radical form, it would have skated through both chambers based upon the views and values of our colleagues across the aisle. But I truly believe that all these amendments are made are to make it more palatable for the governor so he can sign it. So I would say that if this bill makes it out of Congress, you know, it’s going now to finance on Friday. So tomorrow morning it’ll be in finance because it, you know, does involve money now, even though they’re playing a shell game on how they’re going to get the money. When it comes to the floor, I don’t see it stopping on the House floor, especially with the concessions. So I truly believe that if it comes out the way the governor wants to, he’ll be able to sign it and cite many other states that are attempting to do the same thing. You know, Illinois, I think there’s a few states on the eastern coast that have done stuff similar to this. There are some things in this bill that We’ve been told that it has been stricken down at lower courts. But then there’s a lot of things in this bill that are, we think, ultra-restricted that have been held up in other states. So this bill will definitely go to court when passed and signed. But I would say that with the concessions that are being made, those aren’t for the bill’s sponsors. Those aren’t for the Second Amendment community. Those are to make it palatable for the governor. That way he can hang his hat on signing it.
SPEAKER 16 :
Interesting. One other question. You mentioned CPW is going to be the governing body over this. CPW is Parks and Wildlife?
SPEAKER 12 :
Parks and Wildlife. Yes, ma’am. That’s the only way they could make it work. When it came out of the Senate, it had a big fiscal note. Departments were saying they couldn’t handle it. And now it’s going to be on the backs of sportsmen. It’s going to be housed in CPW. And it’s, you know, and… Who should allow a bureaucracy to be able to make a right to privilege? And that’s what makes it so hard for me, is we’re literally taking an unalienable God-given right, and now we are turning it into a privilege for the citizenry, like a driver’s license. And that’s just inherently wrong. And I don’t think that they have the ability. I don’t think they have the capability. I don’t think that they have the time to do this thing. But that doesn’t seem to matter, because just like the sheriff said, we don’t have enough staff to patrol our streets. for real criminals, not people that you’re trying to criminalize. And now you’re going to put this extra task on us. So in the long run, I think the process will be slow and arduous. And it’s just part of the death by a thousand cuts because people say, well, if it’s going to take me five months to go through all of this by the time I pay for all these courses and for all these licenses, I’m just going to give up on the fact. And at the end of the day, I think that’s their end goal is just to beat people into submission to where they don’t even attempt to do these things anymore.
SPEAKER 15 :
Wow.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, Representative Winter, thank you for spending this time with us. This has been so informative. Thank you for the work that you’re doing. Please let let your whole team down there know that they are so appreciated. And again, thank you. And let’s stay in touch.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yes, ma’am. Thank you. You know, God bless House District 47. God bless Colorado. But most importantly, God bless the United States.
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SPEAKER 16 :
And welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Check out our website. That is KimMunson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We’re an independent voice, and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something’s a good idea, shouldn’t have to force people to do it. Brad Beck’s in studio. We’re going to talk about his essay, The Town Square. Brad, you mentioned something when we were talking about Dennis Prager. And our children, you said something along the line is we’re taking away the opportunities, our children. Another word for take away is steal.
SPEAKER 03 :
Right. Well, you see it as Representative Winter just mentioned. Cuts by a thousand times. I mean, they just keep little by little chipping away. And while people are being complacent or thinking, hey, we won that one, there’s 10 other. It’s like shark teeth. They’re just ready to replace with something else. And I saw this and observed it in Boulder County where I live. You know, Louisville would do something, and Lafayette would do something else, and Longmont would do something else. And then it was like somebody said, switch. You know, it was a play-action call, and the other communities would be doing what the other community down the road just finished. And you started to look at this and say, where is this coming from? And it’s, you know, I don’t believe necessarily in… the idea of conspiracy theories but you start watching what happens and you’re saying something is happening here that people are controlling or at least it appears that and i don’t want to say that there’s a you know nefarious thing out there but it just appears that there’s something going on behind the scenes and we’re not even aware of it and i think that’s true
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, and that’s why it’s so important to shed light on this. And that’s why your piece, The Town Square, is so important. And so let’s talk a little bit about that.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, you know, in most town squares, there’s always a character or two. You come down to 16th Street and in Denver or, you know, up in Boulder, the mall, and there’s always somebody down there with a guitar case with all kinds of stickers. In this case, in my piece, there’s a guy I call Old Ned with an old car, old truck, and it’s just covered in all kinds of bumper stickers, we would say, sayings that people might find offensive, sayings that make people laugh as they walk by, and, you know, there’s Old Ned sitting on the bench, and people would come up to him and say, is that your truck? And Yeah. And they give him a thumbs up or maybe a different finger. And they say, you know, you’re politically incorrect or I don’t like what you have on your truck or, you know, go find a policeman and complain. And free speech, as Jonathan Turley says in his new book, The Indispensable Right, is something that we need to protect incredibly. I mean, that’s why we have a Second Amendment to protect the first. And free speech is important, whether you agree with it or not. This idea of hate speech. I mean, who gets to decide what’s hate speech? There is just speech. Hate speech is something that the government defines. And when the government gives you something, they can take it away. So I’m really concerned, especially on our college campuses. Now, you have a group of individuals out there that are protesting pro-Palestinian, and that’s their right to do it, as long as it’s safe and they’re not going after people.
SPEAKER 16 :
And they’re not doing it on our dime.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, exactly. And they’ve got to be students, too. I mean, you have this outside group coming in and agitating. Just like Jewish students have the right to walk across their campus and not be stopped or be intimidated to go to class or speak out freely or wear a yarmulke, keep on the back of their head without being attacked. I mean, it goes both ways. And so, yeah, people should have the right to say what they want, get on their soapbox, have their bumper stickers. It can be offensive to you. Good on them. But you have to have a better idea, a better bumper sticker, a better argument. So when people have something that is against your way of thinking, maybe it makes you think a little stronger, a little harder, come up with a better idea, a better persuasive argument, and the dialogue happens rather than the violence. And we’re seeing, and we’ve seen it in the last year, of juvenile delinquents, radicals, people who can’t handle an argument or a different way of thinking, and they result to violence. And it’s unfortunate because we are a country based on free speech. And if we don’t have that, if we’re not able to speak what’s on our mind, the opposition wins. Evil wins. So we have to defend that indispensable right as Turley talks about. And even in the face of rage, even in the face of threat, we should be able to say what we want when we want to as long as it doesn’t incite immediate violence or harm to another individual. It’s the old thing of, I think Potter Stewart said it, where your right to swing ends at my nose. You know, you cannot take that next action. An action’s important, but you should do it for a reason that is appropriate, not just because somebody said something and you don’t like it.
SPEAKER 16 :
And we – those on the radical activist left, I think, have really realized this. And so that’s why there’s been this assault both upon the First Amendment, freedom of speech, the press, the mainstream media became parrots of – PBIs, politicians, bureaucrats, and interested parties instead of doing their job, and that is talking about these issues and shedding light on it. And, of course, what’s so interesting, though, is things then adjust regarding the town square is the mainstream media is becoming irrelevant, and you’re seeing X become this town square now, right? Right.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, ever since Elon bought it, you have this dialogue that you can have. And listen, I disagree with a lot of stuff out there. There’s many different platforms. There’s some that are considered very hateful, like Gab. But I read what’s on Gab. And, you know, there are those neo-Nazis that put their opinion out there. And I totally disagree with them. But they have the right to say what they have to say. Right. I have to come up with a better idea. I have to persuade a greater amount of people to say, is that right? Do we want to go down that path? Is it something that meets my values, your values? Or are we going to let it run rampant and the small minority take over? I use a line in here about getting in the mud with the pigs. And after all, bacon comes from these creatures and our reward is butchering their bad ideas with better ones. And we get the tasty reward, the bacon. Right. So a Jewish person would say that. I will not agree or deny that I ever imbibed on that tasty treat. But, you know, it’s the idea of butchering bad ideas and taking them head on. You know, if somebody wants to say something, okay, then I have the right to say something too and abut them with a better idea, a better argument. And that’s difficult. It takes practice. I mean, that’s what we practice at Liberty Toastmasters. So people can take a table topic, as we call it, for three minutes and get comfortable with going down to the statehouse or to their school board meeting and having an argument that gets people. It’s dropping seeds. It’s getting people to be exposed to better ideas. And if you do it strategically one right after another. you’re able to get a whole story in without really taking over your time. I mean, focusing, being concise, being clear, being able to say in a story form that makes a point that changes hearts and minds. That’s what it’s really going to help.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, and you are really at the forefront, I think, here in Colorado on this messaging, which is so important. I’m talking with Brad Beck, a frequent guest on the show, guest host of the show, and also the co-founder of Liberty Toastmasters. And we have these important discussions because of our sponsors for everything mortgages. Reach out to Lauren Levy. There may be an opportunity with these inflation numbers that have come out. There might be a little downward trend. Just check it out. Downward movement on these interest rates. You might be able to save some money on your mortgage. Give them a call. And that’s Lauren Levy.
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SPEAKER 16 :
Welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Check out our website. That’s Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We’re an independent voice. We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something’s a good idea. You shouldn’t have to force people to do it. You’ve got to stay tuned because what Brad and I are going to talk about in the second hour is going to make you. It’s not funny and it’s funny. Brad, before we, and this goes way too quickly, but several things I wanted to mention. This Saturday is the Celebrate the Climb event with Paula Sarles with the USMC Memorial Foundation. We’re going to talk with her in the second hour. Next Thursday down at the Center for American Values, Dr. Walt Larimore is going to present on values regarding his book about his father, World War II. uh… hero uh… and it’s uh… his book is at first light and it’s regarding just his father’s remarkable story i’m going to emcee that event down in pueblo next thursday uh… tonight the colorado hispanic republicans will be hosting an event out at the wide open saloon in sedalia that’s on thursday tonight uh… and they will be featuring a forum regarding all of the candidates running for state gop chair i think all of them And then on Sunday, I will be out in Holyoke for the Phillips County Lincoln Day event, and I will be the keynote speaker.
SPEAKER 03 :
Do you sleep?
SPEAKER 16 :
Last night before I went to bed, I said, how many hours does Donald Trump sleep?
SPEAKER 15 :
And…
SPEAKER 16 :
You and I, I was thinking the same thing about you.
SPEAKER 15 :
Do you sleep?
SPEAKER 16 :
But let’s finish this up. This has gone way too quickly. But you mentioned during break five years ago and look at now. I think we can take hope from this. So.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, you know, five years ago, it was two weeks to flatten the curve. Everybody was buying toilet paper and freaking out. And, you know, I looked at it after two weeks and said, this is about power. And I continued to go into work and I continued to try to be hopeful. And while everybody was saying the sky is falling, you know, I was reading more. I was listening more. I was being more introspective. And my mentor, Jeffrey Gittemer, went online, did a Facebook Live at 959. It was called the 959 Club. And it gave a lot of people hope because we talked about positive things. We didn’t, you know, fall in line with, you know, staying six feet away from each other. We were socially close. but physically apart because we were mandated by it. I just saw a video the other day, a little reel, of a guy in the ocean out by Malibu on a surfboard, and two police boats out there, Coast Guard boats, were trying to get him to come back in because he wasn’t following… you know, two weeks to flatten the curve, and they arrested him. They put sand in skate parks so kids could not go skating. I mean, you look back at this, and it was all about power, and it was all criminal. And we fell in line, and very few of us said anything about it because we didn’t want to get our hands slapped or worse. And I’m fearful that this is going to come back some way I mean, they try to do it with bird flu. They try to do it with all kinds of different things. And there are serious things that are happening out there. But our freedoms, our free speech are precious. And we have to defend them. And we have to have the ideas ready so when they come back at us, we’re able to stand up as citizens, free individuals. We’re not on our knees begging for permission.
SPEAKER 16 :
So important. Our quote yesterday from Maggie Thatcher was along the line of we can’t just be against things. We need to be for some things and be able to communicate those. And she’s absolutely correct. But it takes a lot of work to understand. the real principles and that’s why the work that you’re doing Liberty Toastmasters I learn so much from everyone else we don’t always agree but it makes me think about things it makes me kick the tires on ideas which makes me better and that’s why we would really recommend we’ve got about a minute left talk just a little bit about Liberty Toastmasters and we really love to have guests and our goal is to help each of us to be intellectually curious and to become better
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, we meet Saturday from 10 to 12 at the Independence Institute. It’s a great opportunity to hear three or four prepared speeches. We have the opportunity to speak extemporaneous for those who want to just get up and try to answer a question. And you don’t have to answer the question. default and say, well, that’s great. I don’t know anything about it. I’m going to talk about an idea, a principle, something along that line. And then the gold that we really prospect for is the ideas, the feedback that we give each other. Because when you get that critical feedback and saying, you know, you did this really well, do more of it. Here are some things you might want to consider to get better next time you have the opportunity to speak. And it’s really a great opportunity to be introspective, but also to see the dynamic, the structure of And to hear, as you said, different ideas. You know, freedom’s the only tent big enough for everybody. Oh, I love that. And it’s Dave Walden printed that up on billboards and things like we used many years ago. And it’s still up at the office at the Boulder County Republicans in Boulder. But, you know, it’s really true. We have lots of ideas. And you’ve got to get exposed to these ideas to be able to articulate both sides of the arguments.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well done. And how can people get more information?
SPEAKER 03 :
Look us up on the web, and it’s toastmasters.org. You’ll have a link directly to our clubs. We have one in Longmont, one in Denver. Come and visit us and see what we do.
SPEAKER 16 :
Awesome. And you’re going to stay for next hour. Okay. Our quote for the end of the show is George Orwell. He said this, “…a society becomes totalitarian when its structure becomes flagrantly artificial.” That is when its ruling class has lost its function but succeeds in clinging to power by force or fraud. Can you say doge? So, my friends, today be grateful. Read great books. Think good thoughts. Listen to beautiful music. Communicate and listen well. Live honestly and authentically. Strive for high ideals. And like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you’re not alone. God bless you. God bless America. Stay tuned for hour number two.
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SPEAKER 16 :
Indeed. Let’s have a conversation. And welcome to our number two of the Kim Munson Show. Thank you so much for listening. You each are treasured, you’re valued, you have purpose today. Strive for excellence. Take care of your heart, your soul, your mind, and your body, my friends. We were made for this moment in history. Thank you to the team. That’s Producer Joe, Luke, Rachel, Zach, Echo, Charlie, Mike, Teresa, Amanda, and all the people here at Crawford Broadcasting. Happy Thursday, Producer Joe. Happy Thursday, Kim. And the girls were over last night. So what that means is I took advantage, Joe, of the Hooters Wings Day special. You buy 20 wings. You get an additional 10 for free. And I had the lemon pepper rub and the Texas barbecue rub. And it’s always a fan favorite. And I know you like Hooters Wings, yes? Yes.
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Yes, ma’am. I like their buffalo. It’s so good.
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And they’ve got great specials Monday through Friday for lunch and for happy hour. Brad Beck, I can’t believe it’s March. March Madness, I guess. I used to be a real sports hound, but it takes a lot of time. Now I’m over here and all this other stuff. But I guess the drawing for the 64 is going to be this weekend. And I do love March Madness. I love watching all that.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, I love March because that’s my birthday month. So since I’m born on St. Patrick’s Day, everything is green in my house. Thank you, honey, including the food we eat sometimes and the beverages. But one of the things, I used to love all kinds of sports. When I was a kid growing up, I did Little League and Pony League, and I surfed, and I lived in Southern California and loved baseball. But, you know, it’s gotten to the point where it’s just not as enjoyable. College ball is my wife’s a fanatic about that. But, you know, there’s so many things going on that I’m paying attention to the public policy and the politics and reading great literature and my passion, actually. And one of the things I was going to mention to you, Kim, is. You know, you can get mad at things, and oftentimes we read things and we talk about things that make people mad, but I’m hopeful. And the reason I’m hopeful is you and many other people are paying attention, and that gives me hope that we can push back on so many of these things so we can get back to enjoying sports and get back to living our lives, pursuing our happiness, enjoying our families and our friends. and really looking forward to a time when that shiny city on the hill is a reality. It’s so elusive these days, but I’m hopeful because of what people like you are doing.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, thank you. And I was just thinking Hooters Restaurant’s been great sponsors of both the shows, and it’s really important how I got to know them. You know the whole story about when I was on city council, and it’s the story about freedom and free markets and capitalism and those pesky PBIs. wanting to control our lives. And so they’ve really been great sponsors. And this is tongue in cheek. But you can go to Hooters and obviously they have all of the games on. So March Madness is going to be a lot of fun. They have five locations, Loveland, Aurora, Lone Tree, Westminster, and Colorado Springs. But maybe I should pitch this to them, for all of us wonky people that are watching policy, is that just one night that we have C-SPAN on and we have what’s happening down at the Statehouse and all of these different, just different TV. It’s tongue-in-cheek, but wouldn’t that be kind of funny?
SPEAKER 03 :
I would say if they have MSNBC on and every time they said Doge, you had to take a shot. I mean, you know, you need Uber.
SPEAKER 16 :
You’d have to have your Uber drivers. Yeah, that’s for sure. So maybe I’ll pitch that to them. Yeah, that’d be fun. We’ll have to see what happens with that. It’s great to have you in studio, and let’s get into a few of these things. Let me make sure that I get through all this. First of all, our word of the day is idiom, and you’re more familiar with that word than I am. My friend Liz, she and I were talking around the coffee machine yesterday, and she was talking about a guy that she listens to, and she used the word idiom. And I thought, well, that’ll be a good word of the day. But I’m still not sure I’ve used it properly. But it’s I-D-I-O-M. Eric, one of our listeners, says, always spell it. And it’s a noun. And it could be, maybe I’ll just give examples. It says, an expression in the usage of a language that’s peculiar to itself, either in having or meaning that cannot be derived from the co-joined meanings of its elements, such as in the air, for undecided, or such as give way. It could be a dialect. It could be a structural form of language, or then it could be a solid form of artistic expression. And that’s probably the closest I have is like the modern jazz idiom. So it’s I-D-I-O-M, but you’re a little more familiar with the word.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, and I like the use of it in the arts and the idea of music because music has notes and it has structure and it has flow and there’s melody and there’s pitch and rate. So it has its own idiom. It has its own language. It has its own ability to communicate with people. Okay.
SPEAKER 16 :
Isn’t it interesting how you can have these notes? And there’s always new creative ways to put these notes together, which I think is so amazing. But you have these notes, and they can be put together in such different, I guess, idioms, right?
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, think about this. What’s the most powerful note? It’s not the note. It’s the silence. Oh. And in silence, you have a time for reflection and catching up, much like we do when we talk about in Toastmasters. You have the pause. Now, you don’t want to pause in radio. You’ve got to keep things moving because otherwise people will reach for their dial. But silence, pause, is huge. It’s powerful. And it gives people time to really think about what is either being read or heard or spoken.
SPEAKER 16 :
very interesting when i have all kinds of things to continue on let’s let’s get over here though a couple of things are a quote of the day is from george orwell i chose this because of your essay that will roll out this weekend make sure you check out my website that is kim munson mon son.com sign up for our weekly email newsletter there you will get first look at our upcoming guests as well as our our essays You can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com. Thank you to all of you who support us. We are an independent voice on an independent station searching for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through this lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something’s a good idea, you shouldn’t have to force people to do it. The show comes to you on all KLZ 560 platforms, KLZ 560 AM, KLZ 100.7 FM, the website, the KLZ app, and then – Anywhere you have an Alexa, apparently it comes in nice and loud and clear. But our quote is from George Orwell. He was born in 1903, died in 1950. He was a pretty young guy. I didn’t realize that. I don’t know what his story is. Do you?
SPEAKER 03 :
I don’t know what he had something, some affliction, but the great ones seem to flame out quick.
SPEAKER 16 :
That can happen. But he said this, if liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. So we talked extensively about this in the first hour. And while you were talking about this, saying the right to say what people may not want to hear, As you know, I grew up in western Kansas. My father was really a freedom guy. He had a high school education. My grandmother had an eighth grade education. But if you go back and look what that entailed, it would be more than a Ph.D. these days. But he would quote Shakespeare to me and go through the founding and go through these principles. And so one of his pieces of land was land that butted up against I-70. And they used eminent domain, which ended up he was paid somewhat something for that land, but they needed that for I-70. And when Eisenhower came back from World War II, this is my understanding, he had seen the Autobahn, and he realized that we needed a way to be able to get products across the country, troops if need be. And, of course, it opened up the open road for people as well. So my father was never – Never really disagreed with that. He understood that. But I remember he would say that sometimes, this would have been in the late 60s probably, that he would see VOW vans with hippies heading west. And the next thing you know, there was a protest in Boulder.
SPEAKER 1 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 16 :
But my father was in the Air Force for four years, and he said, I may not agree with what they have to say, but I serve my country so that they could say it. And that’s always stuck with me. And so, Brad, when we started to have this whole thing regarding bullies, my child being bullied at school, I think probably most of us have been bullied and most of us have probably have bullied and I became really uncomfortable with that because what we’re seeing then is is looking to other authorities to stop the bullying. And what I’ve realized, and that’s why we do this show, is if you don’t stand up against bullies, they don’t go away. They just take more and more power. So you’ve got to stand up, and in this ideological battle we’re in, you’ve got to punch them in the nose.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, it’s interesting you bring up bullies. I remember I was in junior high school riding my bike, home from a long day at school and I was on a corner across not too far from the school and these two guys who I don’t remember who they were to this day got off their swing stingrays and started swinging at me for I don’t know what reason and luckily there was a guy named Big Jim who was big he was about six foot two and you know we were all scrawny kids and he picked them up like cartoon characters and butted their heads together and they ran away and never saw him again And I was like, you know, you need somebody to stand up. I mean, we became friends after that, and I won’t give his last name. But it’s interesting that you need somebody, the watchers, watching over you, whether they be people who are bigger than you physically or… they’re giants because they’re not afraid to stand up and speak a little bit of truth to the power of individuals who think they know better than you or me and so we need those people average citizens to say wait stop stay in your lane there’s a reason why we have a limited government at all levels federal state and local and so i’d encourage people to go to the local town hall meetings When you see something, get up, put your pants on, go to the town meeting. Well, make sure you do that first. Right, exactly. Otherwise you get another charge on top of you. But we need people to stand up and speak their mind. And you and I may not agree with what they have to say to rebut to a city council or a school board, but we need to be able to speak with confidence and talk to people and then listen to people and come to some kind of accommodation so we can move things forward. opposite of that is, you know, the founders made it to where, you know, things didn’t move fast. They moved very slow, and there was debate, and there was argument, and things moved in a way that people could really participate, and we’ve lost that, and we need to get back to it. And I thank God for people like Elon Musk, who have stood up, even though he was from another position for so long, but then his eyes got opened, and look what he’s doing now. I think it’s marvelous.
SPEAKER 16 :
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SPEAKER 16 :
And welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is KimMunson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We’re an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something’s a good idea, you shouldn’t have to force people to do it. Karen Levine at Remax Realtor is a great sponsor of the show. monday it was also uh change in time daylight savings time and she’s on an airplane so i said you know what i’ll just say some nice things about you and so karen levine has been a great friend and sponsor for many many years and so you want her on your side of the table if you’re going to buy a home or sell a home or look at a new build and that number is 303-877-7516 my friend brad beck co-founder of liberty toastmasters has stayed on for the second hour it’s great to have you here thanks for having me and and
SPEAKER 03 :
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SPEAKER 16 :
She is. Yes. She is. And she had a lot of moving parts, and she made it happen. But on the line with me is my friend, and he is a fan favorite, and that is Scott Powell. And he is a fellow at the Discovery Institute, a senior fellow at the Discovery Institute, but he’s written a very, very important book. And that is Rediscovering America, How the National Holidays Tell an Amazing Story About Who We Are. And Colonel Bill Rutledge, 96 years young, has said that it is a great book to have on your shelf at home in your Freedom Library. Scott Powell, welcome to the show.
SPEAKER 11 :
Thank you, Kim. Great to be with you.
SPEAKER 16 :
And you’re skiing.
SPEAKER 11 :
I am.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, not right now, but later today. How’s the snow?
SPEAKER 11 :
The snow is pretty good. It’s a little bit of spring skiing now. It’s being in the middle of March almost.
SPEAKER 16 :
And you live in Florida. So you and I talked yesterday. You’re in Utah and having just a great time. And so thank you for making time for us today regarding one of your most recent pieces that people can find in Town Hall. And it’s that Doge requires rethinking, reform, and new initiatives before the U.S. debt market collapses. So Doge is pretty interesting. And Brad and I were talking about this during break. This was a headline. Couldn’t believe this. It says a court steps in after USAID employees are ordered to – shred and burn classified documents, the court steps in and says, no, you shouldn’t do that. Can you believe this, Scott Powell? USAID people are shredding and burning things as they’re leaving?
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, it’s a sad day in America that this sort of thing is happening. But it doesn’t really surprise me. Let’s just think back not to, you know, only four years ago, We should ask ourselves, how do we get to the place in our country that a duly elected president of the United States could be targeted by the Department of Justice and the FBI based off a fabricated fake dossier that those doing the targeting actually knew was fake? But they still used it to secure four FISA warrants in a massive abuse of power, and yet no one suffered consequences for it. How can former President Trump have his home at Mar-a-Lago thuggishly raided on the thinnest of pretenses while another president, Joe Biden, gets a free pass on his handling of classified documents? You know, how do concerned parents showing up at school board meetings to question the curriculum being used to indoctrinate their children end up being considered domestic terrorists by powerful elements of their government? I mean, This is the America we’ve just been living through in the last, well, it goes way beyond four years ago, but it certainly came out in heightened relief during the Biden administration. And in some ways, I have to say that I think God’s hand was on America in ways that some people don’t realize, because Donald Trump felt very strongly that there was vote fraud in 2020, and he wanted to get that rectified and wanted to serve his consecutive second term, but got in another plane, I think, in that, you know, it didn’t go forward. The courts wouldn’t hear the case. And meanwhile, so Joe Biden got installed. So the American people witnessed how bad it could get. And at the same time, those four years really were essential for Donald Trump to get trained up into what he needed to do when he did serve his second term. And so Doge is a function of that great training and that great orientation that Trump developed. He realized that out of the gate, he needed to tackle the corruption that was destroying America. And that’s really what Doge is all about. And thank goodness we’ve got a guy like Elon Musk, a technological wizard, who knows other wizards, young wizards, and he assembled a team of people who could go into these agencies and find out where the corruption was within 24 hours. It’s incredible. It is incredible. And massive corruption they found. So far it’s about half a billion dollars of misappropriated funds. Or half a trillion, right? I heard in an interview that he expects it will be up to a trillion dollars of savings for the American people by the time the process is finished. So it’s a half trillion that they found, right, Scott? Just about, yeah. It’s over $400 billion so far. And it’s just been going for, what, two or three weeks? Yeah.
SPEAKER 16 :
What has been happening, I think, is that the American people have been being fleeced by these PBIs. And when we look at these deficits, so the deficits, I think, have been running about $2 trillion. If he finds a trillion right there, I think… Brad Beck, I think people had maybe lost hope. They said, we’re on this train and it can’t be turned around. We’ve got these deficits, this debt. And Donald Trump’s like, we can’t turn this around. This is amazing.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, it is. And Scott, I would just ask you, you know, President Trump had four years of a hiatus, I would say. And it’s a good thing that he didn’t, in hindsight, get in. That’s right. When he was elected. I think he was elected. But, you know, we can discuss that. The question I have is how do we convince our fellow citizens to be patient? Because this is going to take some time for the economy really to turn around. And since people are so focused on their 401ks and their retirement especially, you know, they’re getting a little skittish. And they’re not being patient like the four years that President Trump waited for. How do we talk to our friends and family and coworkers to say, hey, just hold on, it’s going to all turn around?
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, I think we have to cast a vision that a reformed government, a downsized reformed government, will be a much better future than continuing on the status quo. We, in many ways, have had a bit of a false economy. And I think also people need to be reminded that don’t put it past these deep state operatives who to target not only Tesla dealerships, but to target the stock market. They want to destroy Donald Trump’s administration. They really do. They’ll do anything. So I think there’s market manipulation going on on the downside right now for that very purpose. But in the end, the markets will respond differently. to the economics. And it may be that we have a little bit of a slowdown. I don’t know that we’re headed for a full-throttle recession. I don’t really think so. So I think we have to cast a vision to the American people that as there is more money in the private sector, that is good for the economy, first and foremost. and there’s less meddling by the government. These government agencies, remember, have been very mischievous in preventing the market signals from working as they normally would. So as we pull the government back, not only do we save taxpayer money and keep more money in the private sector, but we also allow businesses to do what they do best. And what they do best is allocating resources. You know, a business won’t continue down a money-losing path. Let’s say a division of a business comes up with a new idea of a new product line, and so that gets launched. But it turns out they were wrong, and the product doesn’t work very well, and it begins to lose money. What does the CEO and the board of directors do in such a situation? They say, shut it down. Close it down. We don’t want to lose money. you know, for months to come. Let’s just reposition. We’ve got other good ideas in the hopper. And let’s invest in those things at work. So there are two benefits from Doge, if not more than that. But one is we keep more money in the private sector. We reduce debt. That’s two. And number three is that we get the government out of the economy more than it already is. And that’s a real benefit. Believe me.
SPEAKER 16 :
I have always thought that we needed to reduce the size of government, Scott, but I didn’t think it was possible. And I now do think it’s possible. And I love your points here that we need to look further than just one. what is happening right now to 401ks or retirement plans. We’re going to continue the discussion with Scott Powell, co-founder and my friend, frequent guest and frequent guest host on the show. Brad Beck is in studio. We have these discussions because of our sponsors. And I’ll tell you what, Lavaca Meat Company is a premium product. And the only preservatives that they use is the freezer. And they are located at the corner of Nevada and Maine in Old Littleton. Truly a treat for that steakhouse experience at home. Reach out to Lavaca Meat Company.
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SPEAKER 16 :
Welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. in the afternoon for their On Values presentation. I have the great honor to emcee that event and the featured presenter will be Dr. Walt Larimore regarding his book At First Light and his father’s story. I interviewed Dr. Larimore for America’s Veterans Stories. It’s fascinating. So be sure and join me. It’ll be great down at the Center for American Values. Information at AmericanValueCenter.org. In studio with me is my friend Brad Beck, co-founder of Liberty Toastmasters. We’ll be rolling out his essay this weekend regarding the town square. And on the line with me is my friend Scott Powell. He’s written the book, Rediscovering America, How Our National Holidays Tell an Amazing Story About Who We Are. Very important book. And Scott Powell, we’re talking about your piece that was recently published in Town Hall. And that is that I have the title right here. And that is Doge requires rethinking reform and new initiatives before U.S. debt market collapses. And Yvonne, one of our listeners, said this. Everything is possible. Those who say it cannot be done need to get out of the way of those who are doing that. Scott Powell, I love her spirit on that.
SPEAKER 11 :
I do, too. It’s great. But it is a serious matter that we face because we have been racking up so much debt that we’re getting to a point where the capital markets may not be willing to continue to lend money to the United States. And if there was, for instance, a failed auction, the government sells its debt through a public auction process. And if there aren’t enough buyers, you know, for instance, much of the debt gets rolled over. So we have this outstanding debt that comes due and it doesn’t really get paid off. It gets reissued to, you know, oftentimes to the same investors, but also to new investors. But unfortunately, our debt-to-GDP ratio now is really alarming. The red lights should be flashing, and they are flashing to savvy people in the capital markets that if the debt level goes above 130% debt-to-GDP, it’s usually the beginning of the end of that government. That’s really what happened in Greece back in, when was that? That was somewhere around 2010, I think it was, where Greece failed. They couldn’t meet their obligations. It’s happened in other countries. It happened in Weimar, Germany. So we take it for granted that the great America can just keep borrowing money, but history does not bear that out. So the place that we’re in right now is that we have an opportunity to change the trajectory. And remember, the deficit, which all deficit spending adds to the national debt. So we’re not likely to get to a balanced budget with a true $2 trillion deficit. But if we could reduce the deficit significantly, that would be a very favorable signal to the capital markets. And America could, you know, I don’t think we’d have any problem in financing our debt if we’re going in the right direction. Because there’s two sides to the equation. There’s the government spending, and then there’s the government revenue that comes in. And God bless Donald Trump for being as creative as he is, because he’s looking to finance our government needs more through tariffs, which was, in fact, the way that our government financed its operations throughout the 19th century, really from the beginning of the country through the 19th century, we were primarily financing the operations of government with tariffs. So the fact that Trump is initiating more reliance on tariffs is historically a sound idea. And secondly, he’s creative in other ways. For instance, he recognizes that we do need to bring it we do need to we’re a country of immigrants and we want to have legal immigration and in fact we want to invite into our country wealthy people because wealthy people provide jobs for other people wealthy people spend their money uh and um so he’s rolled out this golden visa citizenship program whereby if a per if a uh i it’s probably a family that if a family brings in five million dollars, they qualify for a golden visa. And a golden visa is a path to citizenship. It’s a more rapid path to citizenship than the old EB-5 visa program. And you know, within two weeks of announcing that program, 250,000 people outside the United States, non-citizens, signed up and said, we’re all in. We’ve got 5 million. We want to become citizens in the United States. If you multiply 5 million times 250,000 people, it is $1.25 trillion that would be brought in and make a big dent in that deficit. And that’s only… in the first couple weeks that the program was announced. What if it’s 500,000 people? It would be $2.5 trillion of new money that comes. This is new money that’s coming into the United States. It didn’t exist before. If we had 500,000 new people on the Golden Visa program, we would not only have no deficit, we’d be able to pay off part of our debt. So there is a lot of reason for optimism. And of course, the naysayers who want the status quo to continue. Remember, who are all these naysayers that don’t like Doge and so forth? A lot of them are on the take. They’re part of the corrupt political process that has evolved and developed in the United States. And they don’t want the And then you tie that to the political parties, and there’s blame to go on both sides. Republicans spend too much money. The Democrats do too. But the Democrats really finance a lot of their political operations through the recycling of money that’s believed to have been targeted for other reasons. For instance, USAID, a lot of the spending that the USAID went back into political initiatives, creating narratives – to support the Democrat Party philosophy, like the Green New Deal.
SPEAKER 16 :
It’s remarkable. As you’re talking about this, Scott Powell, is first of all, Doge finding, let’s say, a trillion dollars. And then with Trump really getting this economy going. And I really think that, of course, the economy was really humming before the whole reaction to COVID. And I think that he has looked at this and he says, if you make that economic pie bigger, through private enterprise, actually your tax revenues will go up as well. So he’s looking at reducing spending and then driving revenue, which those two things are very positive. And Brad Beck had an interesting comment about your piece, and he was talking about that. I’m thinking, well, this could be a third leg on this. So talk about that, Brad.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, Scott, as I was reading your article earlier, which is revealing. There was, towards the end, a paragraph that said the federal government is resource-rich, being the largest landowner in the United States, owning some 640 million acres, about 20% of the country’s land mass. I think it’s 28%. Wow.
SPEAKER 1 :
28%.
SPEAKER 03 :
So there’s almost 30% of this nation that could be opened up for land building for affordable housing for resources that are basically inert laying in the ground and until they’re mixed with man’s mind they don’t become resources so we have an opportunity for oil gas mining but then the bigger question is should the united states government own any of that land
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, I think we could allow the government to own the national parks and certain relatively small areas. I think that would be fine. But I agree that the ownership of land, the American people, first of all, should own the government. And therefore, all this public land is really the American people’s land. So, you know, there’ll be a huge political opposition, you know, to that. you know, to privatize these public lands. But if the American people really understand that it’s part of a program to revitalize the American economy, and that if we don’t revitalize our economy, we’re on a path to decline. We’ve been on a path to decline really for quite some time. You know, the national debt at the end of the Obama, at the beginning of the Obama administration, the end of the Bush administration, that would be 2008, was about $8 trillion.
SPEAKER 15 :
Oh, my gosh.
SPEAKER 11 :
And that’s how many years ago? That’s only 17, yeah, it’s about 17 years ago that the national debt was around $8 trillion, and we ballooned it to $8. $36-plus trillion. That’s a four-fold, almost more than a four-fold increase in our debt in this relatively short period of time. If that trajectory continues, the American economy will collapse. The government will not be able to finance its debt. And so we’re in this transitional period. But I think One of the points I make in this article is that the capital markets will support a continuing borrowing by the U.S. government if we turn the corner and show that we’re really serious to bring our deficits down. And talk is cheap. We’ve got to do it. We’ve got to have actions that show that we are committed to deficit reduction. And ideally, we’re targeting a balanced budget. over the long haul. That’s the right way to manage a household, is it not, and a business. Well, it sure as heck should be the right way to manage our government. We used to do it that way.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, and absolutely. And then this came in from Yvonne, and she said yes to honest investors on this golden opportunity, but no to wealthy bad actors. Vet those golden tickets. I think she’s got a good point there, Scott.
SPEAKER 11 :
Oh, absolutely. No, I think that there will be great vetting. There won’t be any rich drug cartel kingpins getting golden visas. People will have to show – you know, they’ll be vetting of these people. There’s no doubt about that. So I think that goes without saying that we’re not just going to let people in that have a big purse. They’ve got to be contributors to the American dream.
SPEAKER 16 :
Okay. Scott Powell, this is always so fascinating. And again, we’re talking about your piece in Town Hall. And your book, I would highly recommend that people have your book, Rediscovering America, how our national holidays tell an amazing story about who we are. And in the book, you’ve taken each of our major holidays, and they’re little vignettes. So it’s something that a parent, a grandparent can sit down with their grandchildren or child and talk about these holidays. And I really recommend that people have your book on their shelf at home.
SPEAKER 11 :
Then you can read it again and again almost every year. You can, absolutely. And you’ll find new things in it that you missed the first reading.
SPEAKER 16 :
Absolutely. Your final thoughts, Scott Powell, Senior Fellow at the Discovery Institute.
SPEAKER 11 :
Well, I think there’s great reason for optimism now. And, you know, Trump accomplished a lot in his first term, not the least of which was, you know, was the discreditation of the legacy mainstream media. So we really have the birth of a new media system. and more and more people are turning to getting the truth in the alternative media because they can’t get it in the mainstream media anymore. So I think it’s really important that people find reliable sources of news, and there’s lots of them. And, Kim, I’m sure you’re on the cutting edge, and you know a lot of good sources. So remind people of where they can get accurate information about what’s going on in our country and the world.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, first and foremost is the Kim Bunsen show, Scott.
SPEAKER 11 :
Absolutely.
SPEAKER 16 :
Scott Powell, thank you so much. Really appreciate it. Thank you for taking time while you’re on your ski vacation to make this happen. Have a glorious day out on the slopes.
SPEAKER 11 :
Thank you, Kim.
SPEAKER 16 :
Brad, I always learn so much.
SPEAKER 03 :
Scott’s one of those guys that remind you to follow the path, not the trees, when you ski. Because if you’re looking at the trees, you’re going to hit one. But if you’re looking at the path, you’ll make your way through it.
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SPEAKER 16 :
And welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is KimMunson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We’re an independent voice. We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something’s a good idea, you shouldn’t have to force people to do it. Brad Beck, my friend, co-founder of the Liberty Toastmasters, is in studio. And another great friend of mine, Paula Sarles, is on the line. She is the president of the USMC Memorial Foundation. She’s a Gold Star wife as well as a Marine veteran. And she does the craziest things for her birthday. For her 75th birthday last year, she jumped out of an airplane. Have you ever done that?
SPEAKER 03 :
I have not. I’m not that brave.
SPEAKER 16 :
Somebody suggested it to me, and it’s like, why would I do that? So that was last year. She’s turning 76 this year. She’s going to be climbing 426 steps out at Red Rocks on Saturday. Paula, welcome to the show.
SPEAKER 13 :
Thanks a lot, Kim. I am a little crazy.
SPEAKER 16 :
I tell you what, this is awesome, though. And people, one of the things that’s on your heart is to raise this money for the remodel of the Marine Memorial. It was dedicated in 1977. And it’s time for a remodel. And, of course, the plans are just amazing. But before we get into the climb, celebrate the climb, this memorial, as I’ve gotten to know you and been at different events, has been a place of healing for many of our veterans. And I think it’s so important that people understand that.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yes, it is. And I have so many memories. Anecdotal stories, and the remodel will give us a building to make it 100 times better. But when people go to the memorial, it brings out the Marine in them or the veteran in them, and it changes lives.
SPEAKER 16 :
It does change lives.
SPEAKER 13 :
It happened for my husband and I when we went there the first time.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, you and your husband, both Marine veterans, he was a Vietnam War veteran as well. And coming back, you both didn’t really talk about it for a while, and it was really the Marine Memorial where you both started to feel the healing from all that had happened with our veterans.
SPEAKER 13 :
Right. We were treated. I mean, I’m sure everyone’s heard the stories, but if you’re a woman, it was way worse. And it wasn’t until we went to the memorial that we really felt welcomed home and felt like we were in our element and could talk. And it began a lifelong healing process from all that had happened to us.
SPEAKER 16 :
And that’s what you want to provide for other veterans as well. And so I love that. And so you’re raising money. You always are thinking of creative ways to do it. And so people can actually make a one-time donation to the Marine Memorial Foundation, or they can pledge per step. And you’re doing this in honor, first of all, of the Marine Corps birthday, 250 years this year, right? Yes.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yes, and our commandant told us to celebrate everything we do, so that’s what we’re doing. And we’ll have cake and everything at the top when I get there. Not if, when I get there. And then we’re celebrating 100 years for Iwo Jima Friends, and of course, You know, Jack Thurman passed away recently, but we still have Don Whipple with us and Tom Ram. So we’re celebrating their birthdays this year and my birthday.
SPEAKER 16 :
And 76 years young, I would say. And where can people go to get information about the climb and to make a contribution?
SPEAKER 13 :
They go to our website, usmcmemorialfoundation.org, and there’s a red banner at the top that you click on, and it’s real easy to find them.
SPEAKER 16 :
So, Paula Sarles, I remember the first time that I saw you. This journey of mine with America’s Veterans Stories, back in Normandy with a group in 2016 with four D-Day veterans, and got an invitation to Cooper’s Troopers, Grady Birdsong, and all of the Marine veterans there. And they meet once a… Once a month up in North Denver for lunch. It was founded by, was it Ed Cooper, who was a combat veteran, realizing that combat veterans needed to come together. And that’s one of the things that I’ve learned is that even though we may try to understand a civilian’s combat, we can’t. Only combat veterans can understand combat. But I was up at the luncheon and just trying to… Take it all in. And I remember you walking in, and I can see it as clear as day. And I’m like, who is that woman? And now to call you my friend is a great honor.
SPEAKER 13 :
Oh, that’s so sweet. I feel the same way because you do some amazing things, my friend. Wow.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, it’s truly my honor. And Brad Beck, I know that you have such an honor and respect for our veterans as well. And so what Paula’s doing with the USMC Memorial Foundation is huge.
SPEAKER 03 :
It really is. And thank you for your continued service because I think it’s a great reminder that we as citizens need to honor those that gave their all and those that came back and are living their lives but don’t want the accolades but had gone through some pretty major things.
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, and speaking of that, Paula, we’ve got just a little bit of time left. But a guy that I interviewed, Vietnam veteran Michael Keller, I saw him yesterday. And he’s having health challenges. I’ll just put it that way. And I think those health challenges are because of his service to our country. And I was thinking about it, that we don’t understand – those challenges that those that have come back may be facing as well from injuries on the battlefield. And, boy, we take so much for granted. It would be just a real, I think, an important thing for people to support you in the Celebrate the Climb event tomorrow.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, I appreciate any support that we get. And we are making headway. I’m hoping this year will be a major breakthrough where we can really start the next level. And it’s because of people like your friend that we do this. And when we finish the building, you know, the memorial is a place of healing right now. But when we finish the building, it’s going to take it to a whole new level. We’ll have a full service there. And the dream is to have a Mount Carmel type memorial facility there that’s a one-stop shop for veterans to come in and figure out exactly where they need to get their help i love it and that’s part of the plan it’s a place to educate young people about our values so we’re partnering with the center for american values on the education piece and it’s just going to be great when we get it done
SPEAKER 16 :
Well, I thank you for your tireless efforts and your creative birthday celebrations, Paula Sarles.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, we’ve got to keep the doors open somehow.
SPEAKER 16 :
Absolutely. So more information to make that contribution is usmcmemorialfoundation.org. That’s usmcmemorialfoundation.org. Thank you, Paula, for all you do.
SPEAKER 13 :
Oh, thank you, Kim. God bless you.
SPEAKER 16 :
God bless you as well. Brad Beck, it’s always wonderful to have you in studio.
SPEAKER 03 :
It’s amazing. How does time go so fast? Sitting in this chair or sitting in that chair, it’s amazing to me. But thank you for all the things you bring to the forefront and exposing what happens in our great state and how we need to get involved.
SPEAKER 16 :
Absolutely. And knowing what’s going on is the first step. And this is what George Orwell said. He said, a society becomes totalitarian when its structure becomes flagrantly artificial. That is, when its ruling class has lost its function, but succeeds in clinging to power by force only. or fraud. So my friends, today be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, and strive for high ideals like Superman’s stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you are not alone, and it’s so important to remember that we’re not alone. And whenever you feel alone, remember that you’re not and that God is with us. And so, my friends, God bless you. God bless America. And we will be back tomorrow. We’ve got an amazing show planned for you as well. So be sure and tell your friends and family about the Kim Munson Show.
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Talking about freedom Talking about freedom I will fight
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