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What happens when a man cheats and the entire internet joins the divorce? In this brutally honest episode of A Guy’s Perspective, the crew unpacks the viral “Andy the Cheater” scandal — caught on a kiss cam, roasted by social media, and (allegedly) fired by the woman he cheated with. Is it justified justice or cyberbullying on steroids?
The guys talk infidelity, double standards, emotional fallout, and whether anyone ever really comes back from a public blast like this. Plus, the unexpected therapy of sharing their own painful divorces, suicidal thoughts, and the raw truth of being a man under
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I can’t hide myself I don’t expect you to understand I just hope I can explain What it’s like to be a man It’s a lonely road And they don’t care about what you know It’s not about how you feel But what you provide inside that home
SPEAKER 05 :
man is what you make it you can’t always live up to expectations you try to please everybody while you struggle so you fake it and end up out of balance compromising situations as a good man do what he should man i’ll give everything he has and do everything he could man you
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Welcome to A Guy’s Perspective, where they discuss real life topics that men today are dealing with, whether married, single parent, or just single. We invite you to call into this live program with your comments and questions. And here they are.
SPEAKER 06 :
How’s it going everybody today? It’s 2.03 p.m. and we’re KLZ 560 AM and you can always reach the guys at 303-477-5600. Let’s go around the room and introduce ourselves.
SPEAKER 07 :
203? That’s like three minutes extra. That’s like $300 that costs us.
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Oh!
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Anyway, we’re not talking about money today.
SPEAKER 06 :
We’re not talking about money today. You boys look good today, though. How are you guys feeling? I’m feeling good.
SPEAKER 08 :
I’m feeling good, yeah. You got good news? I did get good news. Yeah, no surgery. That is, that’s huge. Everything’s getting rebuilt back up in my heart, so… I’m just like the Terminator, man. Every time I almost die, I just regenerate.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, yeah, you could give glory to technology if you want. That and the pharmaceutical industry, right?
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Yeah. Cool. How are you doing? Tell us about it.
SPEAKER 07 :
Me? Heath?
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, I’m doing all right, man. Life’s been crazy. A lot of things. Building a house. Never built a house before. Got the windshield replacement company. Ramming and jamming. Got that going. Acting. Oh, I got an acting gig coming up.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, tell us about your new movie coming up.
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, with Hank Braxton, man. It’s called American Vampire.
SPEAKER 06 :
Is that from American Werewolf in London? The slaughtered lamb is the coolest part of that movie, man. When they go out, stay on the road.
SPEAKER 07 :
We’re going to have to slaughter a lamb then.
SPEAKER 06 :
Dude, American Werewolf in London is a legit movie. Yeah.
SPEAKER 07 :
That is super legit. This one ain’t following that so much. There’s a bunch of hillbillies cooking meth in the woods. Oh, what in the world? And they’re vampires? Yeah, and I’m supposed to be kind of like a…
SPEAKER 06 :
uh uh uh what is it not a security guard a guy who goes after after uh bounty hunter oh there you go like a bounty hunter nice that’s gonna be cool so anybody who’s interested when that movie comes out um look heath up and give them a shout um also remember our social media platforms where where can they find us at
SPEAKER 08 :
We’re still on Facebook, Spotify, a bunch of podcasts. We’re getting a bunch of emails coming in. If you want to advertise with us, we’re willing to take you on.
SPEAKER 07 :
And pray for Anjan out in Bangladesh. Maybe he’ll get us back on YouTube with the videos.
SPEAKER 06 :
These Bangladesh people, man. That is no customer service right there, bro. I guess we’ll dive into the show. I guess… As of right now, everybody’s probably seen social media all around the world. This guy and his mistress or something like that. I mean, well, let’s go around the room. Do you think social media should be just exposing everything about this guy?
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, that’s what it’s for, is put people on blast. That’s what social media is now for? Heck yeah.
SPEAKER 08 :
That’s how you fight anymore.
SPEAKER 07 :
That’s how you fight anymore. Yeah.
SPEAKER 08 :
No one fights hand-to-hand combat anymore. They just blast you on the Facebook and what is it? Facebook is not even the real deal anymore. What’s it?
SPEAKER 07 :
Instagram and… Yeah, whistleblow or you put people on blast and release reports and all kinds of stuff.
SPEAKER 06 :
Listen, I get what he did was wrong. We’ll all admit that. But at the same time, is social media taking it way overboard? I mean, like… This dude’s now losing his career, family, probably the house, the dog, the whole nine yards.
SPEAKER 07 :
And it takes two to tango, even if that tango is on your side. Wow. I don’t know if they do it on their side. Maybe they do it from behind, but I’m not sure how they do it. You know what dance I’m talking about? Come on. The dance, the lumbar. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER 06 :
But, I mean, so, I mean, do you think it’s just being, like, overly drastic at this point? Like, is it just being dramatic?
SPEAKER 08 :
I mean, dude got caught on that kissing cam. What do you expect, you know? I mean, it’s fair game at the end of the day. I mean, everything you do. I mean, everybody, check this out. If you almost get in a fight, because, you know, this almost happened to me. I’m going to be real. You know, I was in a little hand fight with someone, you know, and now the new way to do it is to whip out your phone, you know.
SPEAKER 07 :
And start recording.
SPEAKER 08 :
Start recording. Exactly. So, yeah, those days are over, man.
SPEAKER 07 :
Ask them incriminating questions. Exactly. incite incite anger in them yeah that’s that’s what happens uh and they started a bunch of morons well but here’s the thing too man regardless of technological advancements or us filming and stuff like that um and people getting caught in in such a grand way um It begs the question, why is everybody, when they’re in a committed relationship, they’re always mad at the person that they were with, not the person. You know what I mean? Oh, not the one that they were cheating with? Yeah, they’re always mad at the one they were cheating with rather than the person who was in the committed relationship that should not have been cheating. Yeah. You know what I mean? I get that. I’m so confused right now. So if my wife were to cheat on me, who should I be mad at? The person that she cheated on me with or her?
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, her. Her.
SPEAKER 07 :
That’s worse.
SPEAKER 08 :
But I get what you’re saying, Heath. You’re basically saying that… Most people would be mad at the person that she would cheat with, right?
SPEAKER 06 :
That’s right. I can get that. That’s funny you guys said that because now my mind’s being dropped. So my dad, when he was a police officer in New Orleans, this is something that stuck with me my whole entire life. He said that he got called to an incident to handcuff a gentleman, to arrest a gentleman. And he said he showed up and the guy had I don’t know if this part that’s a little hazy to me because I was so young when he told it. The guy who was cheating with the gentleman’s wife, he I want to say he shot and killed that gentleman. And then so. My dad, being a police officer, went and picked him up and handcuffed him. And my dad, if he was to call in right now and ask him, hey, would you ever talk to a criminal? He’s like, no, the second I handcuff you, you’re a criminal in my eyes.
SPEAKER 07 :
Anything you say can and will be used against you in a court of law.
SPEAKER 06 :
But this day he said he was fed up. He had picked up so many guys for domestic violence charges. He said he pulled the police car. I’ll never forget this. Pulled the police car over.
SPEAKER 07 :
He didn’t thump on it.
SPEAKER 06 :
No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Pulled the police car over. And you know, remember how they had the metal like meshing? Now it’s like the plexiglass or whatever. Yeah. But you could like interact. Yeah. Well, he said he pulled the police car over, and he said he couldn’t take it anymore. He looked the gentleman in the face and said, hey, man, I’ve never done this before, but why would you turn around and injure or hurt or kill your wife’s mistress? Now you’re going to prison for life, and she’s free to do whatever she wants. He said at that moment, like, it… hit home on that guy, and he just kind of… And he lost everything. Yeah, he broke down. Like you said, people were genuinely upset at the person.
SPEAKER 07 :
The anger and the retaliation is misdirected.
SPEAKER 06 :
Right, is misdirected.
SPEAKER 08 :
So is there a biblical answer to this, though?
SPEAKER 06 :
I mean, think about it. Hold on. There is. Remember the scribes and Pharisees came to Jesus and they were picking up the stone and they were like, he that’s without fault cast the first stone and all of them bailed out. Right. My pastor actually talks about it and says that in order for those Pharisees to have caught that lady in the act.
SPEAKER 07 :
They had to have been there.
SPEAKER 06 :
They had to have been there.
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, it was like the ranch. The ranch. The ranch. Oh, that’s like a couple swinger club down in the violence range. Okay. That’s what I was just about to do.
SPEAKER 06 :
I’m like, what’s the range?
SPEAKER 08 :
You know, maybe there aren’t affairs anymore. Maybe these are just open relationships and they just weren’t aware.
SPEAKER 07 :
But then that’s the question. That’s what it was. Okay. Monogamy. Yeah. Do you think that that’s the way it should be, man? Like… It seems so difficult. It seems so difficult for men and women in relationships to remain faithful to the individual. I want to say, honestly, in my marriage, I feel that my heart is after my wife. It’s like captured by her. Does that make sense? Sure. Yeah. Right. But honey, if you’re listening, even if I see women who look like my wife, I’m attracted to them. Like that’s my draw because of who my wife is, but it’s because my heart has been like drawn after her. Does that make sense?
SPEAKER 06 :
so now so no no no no it does like when somebody’s like yeah yeah i’m just kidding around i was gonna say there’s probably some psychology behind it or something like that you’re just attracted to a big butt and a smile i don’t know so with with that guy though um and and i’m not trying none of us by listen listeners what he did was wrong cheating on his wife we get it but in the same sense what caused him to do that
SPEAKER 07 :
But both, you’re talking about both though, right? The man and the woman were both married to other people. Oh, so she was married?
SPEAKER 09 :
Yes. Oh, okay.
SPEAKER 08 :
See, I didn’t know that. Everybody always wants, in any infidelity, it’s always the man’s fault, right? Isn’t that what it always seems like? It’s always the man’s fault that everyone forgets. It’s false narrative.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, that changes the show. It really takes two. I didn’t even know who she was because nobody says her name. Does it even say her name?
SPEAKER 08 :
Who?
SPEAKER 06 :
No.
SPEAKER 07 :
I know she was in charge of HR. Yeah, but they were both married. They’re both married.
SPEAKER 06 :
So then why is everybody coming down on him and not coming down on her?
SPEAKER 07 :
Agenda. The man. But, I mean, you see what I’m saying, though? Well, it might be agenda. But, hey, understand this, man. Algorithm. If you’re looking up certain things, then certain things are going to appear and populate in your phone.
SPEAKER 08 :
This is true.
SPEAKER 07 :
You know what I mean? So you click on something that says, oh, the man, the man, the man’s at fault, the man’s at fault. Then all of a sudden, everything through algorithm is going to be predisposed to share that with you. It wants to feed you the narrative that you want to believe so that they could later sell you something. I want to look for a big button to smile.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay. So let’s see what, and we’ll say it on the other side too. Let’s see what quantum physics says about quantum physics. This situation.
SPEAKER 08 :
About infidelity. Yes. It was going to happen, basically.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, yeah. I don’t know if it was going to happen, if it was destined for it to happen, but it says this. Okay, the observer paradox. One interesting ambient humorous comparison relates to the observed paradox in quantum physics, suggesting that infidelity isn’t discovered, it might not count, or that the person being cheated on is at fault for discovering it. Okay. Oh, wow. So quantum physics turns around and says that the people, the show, who were taking pictures saying, hey, they’re in infidelity.
SPEAKER 07 :
They’re culpable.
SPEAKER 06 :
They’re the ones, yes, they’re the ones that have caused all this to happen in this gentleman’s life. no it makes you wonder because if that picture doesn’t hold on if that picture doesn’t go out and go viral then it never happened no yep so then it never happened makes you yeah yeah if the tree falls in the forest does it still make a sound well not with a bunch of deaf people around well open your ears people but yes if a tree falls in the forest does it make a sound Yes.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, it always makes a sound.
SPEAKER 06 :
No, it doesn’t. Oh, my God. No, because you are not there to hear it.
SPEAKER 08 :
See, man, you hear this.
SPEAKER 06 :
Hey, man, if we’re going to see… Drake, I want to try to… If we’re going to talk about scientific stuff along with this… Wait a second. Because if he was never at that show, would anybody be calling him a cheater?
SPEAKER 08 :
Yes. Eventually.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yes. Man, I feel like eventually… It makes you wonder… It really makes you wonder. Dude, they’re still cheaters. On each other. No, no, no. He is. He’s cheating.
SPEAKER 08 :
And she is too.
SPEAKER 06 :
He’s cheating, but we’re throwing a spin. Dirty, filthy man. Man whore. We’re throwing a spin on this. If he’s not there and they don’t take the picture of him, who knows if he’s a cheater?
SPEAKER 07 :
No.
SPEAKER 06 :
No, no, no. He’s still a cheater. I agree with you guys.
SPEAKER 07 :
But you’re saying that the people don’t know.
SPEAKER 06 :
People, he would never be getting blasted all over social media.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right.
SPEAKER 06 :
Because do you see where I’m coming from? He’s a cheater. What he did was wrong. But we should not be blasting him on social media like that.
SPEAKER 08 :
That’s pretty dirty. I get what you’re saying.
SPEAKER 06 :
Do you see what I’m saying? That’s all I’m trying to say.
SPEAKER 07 :
Does the punishment fit the crime? Right. Does the punishment fit the crime? But Lorena Bobbitt. Yeah, remember her? Is that the lady who did the scissors? Yeah. oh my goodness you could have got that or or you could have got on blast but but i heard that uh he made a uh porno flick oh yeah after that yeah got everything sewn back on yeah you got it sewn on bigger in all reality him and her were at the wrong yeah
SPEAKER 06 :
But what I’m trying to say using that right there, the quantum physics, is it justified, like you said, should social media be blowing this out of proportion the way it is?
SPEAKER 07 :
Is that the only way that quantum physics says that anything either exists or doesn’t exist? You know, is that the only way?
SPEAKER 06 :
No, no, no, no. There’s more to the quantum physics. Yeah, I want to hear more about that. There’s more that I want to say.
SPEAKER 07 :
But it’s like quantum physics can only say something exists if it’s provable and it’s, you know.
SPEAKER 06 :
Right, because the way physics works is physics is like the dynamics of how we can justify universe and justify basically measurements. Yes, exactly. So let’s look at this. This is interesting that we’re talking about all this, guys. Because even though he’s at the wrong, I don’t believe social media should be blasting him like that.
SPEAKER 08 :
And she too, man. But that’s the thing is that no matter who it is, it’s always the dude’s fault, is it not? He keeps forgetting. And what caused this, man? Let’s just be real. When you start cheating on someone, there’s a lot of stuff that happens.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, this is one thing that happens a lot. It’s your family away from family, right? Which is, for most people, work. For most people, it’s work. You think infidelity is… Well, I would like to look at the statistics, man. How many people have their family and then they go to work and because they’re spending more time and hours and intimate details with people at work, that that leads to infidelity.
SPEAKER 08 :
So this has turned into a Sancho Saturday conversation.
SPEAKER 07 :
Finally. Yes.
SPEAKER 08 :
Finally, we hit Sancho Saturday. Sancho Saturday, huh? Yeah, the milkman came to visit.
SPEAKER 06 :
So do you guys disagree with me that social media has blown this out of proportion?
SPEAKER 07 :
No, social media blows everything out of proportion.
SPEAKER 06 :
It really does.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, yeah. This is just a hot topic right now. It’s like, I can’t. You can lie on social media about people.
SPEAKER 08 :
I mean, you know what I mean?
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, I’m going to make a picture of Dre and Brock holding each other.
SPEAKER 06 :
Oh, what in the world? They’ve got to be your show guys. How about The Truth? Oh, okay.
SPEAKER 08 :
There’s The Truth and Reno.
SPEAKER 07 :
Hey, but here’s the thing. This is a film thing, and it’s no publicity is bad publicity. So sometimes negative things that happen put people in the limelight that they’ve wanted to be in their whole life. Huh.
SPEAKER 06 :
So, okay, that’s funny that you said that.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay. Well, I’m thinking about Arnold Schwarzenegger and remember the cleaning lady?
SPEAKER 07 :
Right. Oh, the cleaning lady.
SPEAKER 08 :
Remember the cleaning lady? No. You know what I think about it? I think sometimes when you have an affair or that happens, let’s just be real, there’s a type of excitement, right? Supposedly and the sex and everything like that because now you’re playing, well, I get gobbled or not. So it amplifies.
SPEAKER 07 :
It’s exhilarating.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, it amplifies it. It becomes more daring. But the thing with Arnold Schwarzenegger and that cleaning lady, I don’t know.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, do you think this could be salvaged? We don’t know this gentleman or his significant other. But do you think overall in the big scheme of things that it could be salvaged, especially now that it’s on every social media platform across the globe?
SPEAKER 08 :
Andy, it was at a Coldplay concert and they just threw him under the bus.
SPEAKER 06 :
Who is Coldplay anyway?
SPEAKER 08 :
Are you kidding me? I don’t even know who they are.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, they’re big. Yeah. I can’t think of a song, but they’re very big.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yellow and…
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh. Oh. Thank you. Now we know. Chris Martin was married to Gwyneth Paltrow. I did not know that. So he’s had a thing for her.
SPEAKER 06 :
So do you guys think it can be salvaged?
SPEAKER 07 :
What, their relationship, their marriage? These people that have… Or even their life after being blasted. That’s deep.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, and I also wonder, too, if there’s anybody that has cheated and they married the person they were cheating with, I mean, what do you guys think about that? Wow. Because that’s always got to be in the back of your mind.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, you’re starting it on a really rocky road. Yeah. It’s shifting sand. But I know someone that did that. They married their… And it worked out. Their affair, and they’re still together. Maybe they learned their lesson.
SPEAKER 06 :
And if anybody knows, warn us, call us at 303-477-5600. It’s an interesting topic. Can people come back from it? I think people can salvage anything if they want to.
SPEAKER 07 :
I also think they can come back from infamy, this infamy that they’ve gotten. And then they can pivot into something that is probably just as lucrative. Think of Hawk to a Girl. Right?
SPEAKER 06 :
She ended up making some money off that. Right.
SPEAKER 07 :
Think of anybody who’s been in the spotlight for a moment for, like, idiocy and stupidity. Then all of a sudden they pivot that into, oh, I’m on a real-world TV show. Exactly.
SPEAKER 08 :
I can see that.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah. I’m a train wreck. Go ahead and give me a contract now. Who’s the dummy? Who’s the dummy? That’s funny you’re saying that. If they can make lemonade out of lemons.
SPEAKER 06 :
Could this, because it’s all over social media, do you really think that accidentally happened or was that all planned? No, man. You think that was accidental?
SPEAKER 08 :
But there’s always conspiracy. You never know.
SPEAKER 07 :
You never know, man. You never know anymore. I think the slap that was heard around the world by Wilson, I think that was planned. I think that was planned.
SPEAKER 08 :
I’m starting to lean that way too, actually.
SPEAKER 06 :
I’m telling you guys, I thought that was planned the whole time. So then could this be? Could this be planned?
SPEAKER 08 :
I mean, it makes you really wonder. I don’t know, man. This dude makes a whole crap ton of money. How much more does he need to make now?
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, is there ever enough? Okay, so check this out, guys. That’s funny we’re talking about this because 70% of all restraining orders are falsely made up. Dang. So now this guy is in a situation where maybe his wife is going to leave him, give him the boot. Remember Tiger Woods? Yeah. I mean, think about Tiger Woods.
SPEAKER 07 :
Johnny Depp.
SPEAKER 06 :
All these guys.
SPEAKER 07 :
Amber Heard or whatever.
SPEAKER 06 :
All these dudes turned around and committed infidelity. Their relationship was in the dumps. Yeah, it was. Dude, they lost a lot of money. So this guy is probably going to lose his job over this.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, he already lost his job.
SPEAKER 06 :
Oh, he did? Yeah, I think she fired him. Oh, what in the world?
SPEAKER 08 :
The HR released her. That would be dirty.
SPEAKER 06 :
Oh, my God, this is so complex. That would be dirty. I mean, think about that. He cheats with the HR lady and she fires him. Oh my goodness. Poetic justice. So 85% of restraining orders against men. 70% of all women initiate divorce. 90% of all men pay alimony. 80% of men pay child support. So it went from real bad to this guy. It’s getting really bad to him now. Oh, yeah. I mean, because he’s probably going to lose the house.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 06 :
I mean, if these stats are right, that 80% of men are paying child support and alimony, he’s probably going to lose the house now. I don’t know his relationship with his kids, so we can’t speculate on that.
SPEAKER 08 :
But if he lost his career… Now think about, well, what about going back to the kids? Could you imagine that, knowing that your dad is just being put on blast? Oh, dude. Yeah.
SPEAKER 06 :
Right, all over social media, dude. Yeah. I mean, seriously. Now all of a sudden this went from… That’s the reason I’m saying social media has done this guy no justice at all. Yeah.
SPEAKER 07 :
But it’s the new… Okay. We were going to actually talk about weapons of mass destruction, guys, but this is kind of a weapon of mass destruction. Oh, it is. It is. Just like there’s biological warfare, this is technological warfare. It is. You know, people have committed suicide, like kids. It can ruin individuals. It can decimate communities. It could… Yeah. Wow.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, you never know. I mean, that dude just might just off himself.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah. That’s crazy. It’s true what you’re saying. I mean, it could get so bad in this guy’s life. He’s going to King Soopers to buy some chicken and somebody’s going to be like, what in the world? Aren’t you that guy here?
SPEAKER 08 :
That would suck.
SPEAKER 06 :
I mean, think about that. Now, like Andre said, he could very well just snap at any moment. And jump off a building.
SPEAKER 08 :
Eat a bullet.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah. I mean, it happens. Cyberbullying is real. And I’m glad we brought it up. Is this cyberbullying? Or is it whistleblowing?
SPEAKER 07 :
This is not whistleblowing.
SPEAKER 06 :
Because I guarantee you can open your phone right now and this guy’s on the front page of it.
SPEAKER 07 :
Every time I’m on a Facebook or a TikTok or something like that.
SPEAKER 08 :
Every third image is them or Darth Maul and Princess Leia and Luke Skywalker.
SPEAKER 06 :
It’s been demified so bad. Listen, people, we’re the guy’s perspective. We talk about everything. We happen to be talking about what’s happening to this gentleman in infidelity. You can call us at 303-477-5600. Tell us if you think we’re wacko or not. I feel like this is cyberbullying. I’m not defending the guy, but I think what he’s getting is it’s not cool.
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, and it’s not just going to be this blast that happens because then most likely there will come a wave of divorce and court proceedings. Financial decimation. Yeah, this is all evident. So that’s still looming. Unless, I don’t know how a relationship comes back from this, man. Has any of our audience ever? That’s a really good question.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, has anybody out there in the radio audience ever come back, you know? Come back from infidelity. Yeah, maybe there’s a great comeback story. That would be cool.
SPEAKER 06 :
No, yeah, that would be interesting. Call us at 303-477-5600. Listen, us guys have done all of it. You know what I’m saying? We’re guilty just like every guy on the planet is guilty. You know what I’m saying?
SPEAKER 07 :
Jesus trapped us in a paradox, man. I love him for it. um he made it simpler and and and more complex to attain uh uh any any sense of righteousness anyway um because he said that you’ve heard it said that if you look upon or you’ve heard it said that if you commit adultery um that that’s a sin right like adultery is a sin but even but he said even if you look upon a woman with lust in your heart you’ve committed the act
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, see, then that goes a lot deeper.
SPEAKER 07 :
No, and this is what it is. The reason Jesus said that is because he knows the hearts of men and that if the desire is for another person or another woman, when God has joined you together with your significant other, then you are committing infidelity.
SPEAKER 08 :
What are your thoughts about this? Is it more gender-based? Are men more apt to cheat on their women? Because it’s always women, usually, too. You know, I mean, usually, well, I don’t know, unless you’re in a gay relationship or something like that. But, I mean, usually there’s a woman involved, too. So what makes the woman not a partaker, you know? I mean, is it 50-50? You know, are the stats, you know, stacked against men? Or is it just equally done with women? As being unfaithful? Yeah, are women just as unfaithful as men?
SPEAKER 06 :
No. I think… I’d want to say it’s a 50-50, right?
SPEAKER 07 :
Takes two to tango, right? In this day and age, I do think that more so women are also… They can be unfaithful, but usually it used to be that women could be unfaithful emotionally. Guys, this is… Men were unfaithful physically.
SPEAKER 06 :
This is what I hate, and we’ll talk about it on the other side. We have like 30 seconds. Dude, The Bachelor’s… You know, reaching out to like 60 million people and that’s all infidelity. But every woman across the globe is watching that and she’s hollering, take Christina down as she’s sitting there kissing on this home. Like, I don’t get it. Maybe that’s programming. I don’t get it. Everybody sits back and says, oh, infidelity is the worst thing in the world, but we’re watching it 24-7. I’m super confused about that. Listen, we’re not justifying what that guy did. He was at the wrong. I will say it again. He was at the wrong. But social media is burning this guy.
SPEAKER 07 :
Blowing it out of proportion.
SPEAKER 06 :
It is bullying.
SPEAKER 10 :
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SPEAKER 10 :
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SPEAKER 03 :
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SPEAKER 06 :
How’s everybody doing today? This is the second half of KLZ 560 AM. You can reach the guys at 303-477-5600. Listen, in the first episode, we were not defending this man’s infidelity, but we were saying that what’s happening to this gentleman online… is cyberbullying. And we even did some quantum physics stuff on it that if they would have never, ever seen him at the concert or took in a picture, would he have actually been in infidelity? We all agree, yes. But at the same sense, the person who took the picture of them in infidelity, are they causing it to… Whoever first initially posted the picture, are they causing more damage than…
SPEAKER 08 :
Then good. Who’s going to be dumb enough to be, you know, in that type of setting knowing there’s a kissing cam? Think about that. Like if you’re cheating with some chick or, you know, and you’re at a Rockies game or wherever, Avalanche. I mean, if that camera comes around and it’s pretty sporadic.
SPEAKER 07 :
They should have just owned it. Oh, you think they should have just stood there and said, hey. If you were brazen enough to be out there in public with your relationship and your infidelity, then just own it. Just own it.
SPEAKER 06 :
So that’s funny we’re talking about this because while we were off air, we were talking about the divorce I had went through. And my ex, I truly, I didn’t have sound evidence. Well, I did have sound evidence because I had, she told me, I guess that’s sound evidence, right? Sound evidence. Yeah, there’s no way around it. So she cheated on me. But at the end of the day, and sure, it wasn’t all over social media and all kind of dumb stuff. But I think for me, if my ex would have been caught on camera and all over social media… I think I would go to the public and say, take it down. Even though it would have been ruined, even though our relationship would have been ruined, I would have stood up in front of the news because apparently they’re wanting to talk to this gentleman’s wife.
SPEAKER 07 :
Because you think that it’s a private matter.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yes, it is. It shouldn’t be.
SPEAKER 07 :
Just because it’s about privates doesn’t mean it’s a private matter.
SPEAKER 06 :
It shouldn’t be put all over social media to where now you’re bullying this gentleman. I agree.
SPEAKER 07 :
I’ve often wondered how far does the neighborly thing go? Is it neighborly if you know that your neighbor is cheating or being cheated on? When are you nosy and when are you a neighbor?
SPEAKER 06 :
I’m telling you right now, I’m not walking to my neighbor’s house. I’m not walking up to their house and being like, hey, your husband’s cheating on you or your wife’s cheating on you. You ain’t going to do that. I ain’t doing that.
SPEAKER 08 :
I think eventually people will find out, you know. But on a twist, you know, I had the same thing happen too. We were just talking about that. All three of us have been, you know, our homes have been wrecked and divorced because of infidelity. Yeah. My ex was the same way, but the twist that she would do is she went on. Now the thing about it, she’d use social media to try to destroy me by saying I did this, this and this. And it was like, there was no truth to it at all. And it was, yeah. So I bet you anything. I mean, there’s so many factors and the way social media is used. It’s like you said, it really is a bully.
SPEAKER 06 :
It is. And listen, we’re not defending the guy. He was wrong. But to turn around his wife, if nothing else, should stand up in social media and say, hey, listen, take that stuff down, man. You can’t stop that beast. You can’t.
SPEAKER 07 :
You can’t. You can’t stop when social media is in motion. You cannot stop it. Every effort that you give to stop it will only perpetuate it.
SPEAKER 08 :
So check this out. The wife did, according to Charlie, the wife did take everything down, photos of him, her, and the children. But I would speculate that it was the attorney, that divorce attorney said, drop everything off of social media that you have right now. And I can promise you that 100%. And my thought is that they are getting ready now. and set up to go through a good-sized divorce. And someone’s coming out with money.
SPEAKER 06 :
What do you think this guy’s feeling right now?
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, being busted? Well, just in general.
SPEAKER 06 :
Do you think he’s ashamed that he got busted? Do you think he’s feeling regret right now? Of course, man. What do you think he’s feeling?
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, he’s probably, too, ashamed of being caught, but second.
SPEAKER 07 :
I think he’s hanging with that same lady that was on the video. I don’t think so. I think they’re hanging out together now.
SPEAKER 06 :
Hold on. Heath, we’ll take you, and we’ll go around the room. If that situation happened to you and you were in that current situation, what would you do at that moment?
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh man, that’s a heavy question.
SPEAKER 06 :
That’s a heavy question.
SPEAKER 07 :
So if I, if I was in that situation and I’m married and I was, I was caught on a kiss cam and you’re all over social media now and you’re all over social media. Wow, man, I want fame.
SPEAKER 06 :
Oh, so you’re going to embrace it. You’re going to be like, cool.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay, we got his answer. He wants fame.
SPEAKER 06 :
I’m not going to.
SPEAKER 07 :
No, as an actor.
SPEAKER 06 :
You’re probably going to get rich.
SPEAKER 07 :
You’re probably going to get rich off of it. A long time ago as an actor, I did say there’s one thing I’m not going to do, and it’s not like pornography. Uh, so I do all kinds of films, everything from horror to sci-fi to blah, blah, blah. So one thing I wouldn’t do is pornography. Um, but, uh, um, but that was also because of morals and I, I love my wife and I don’t want to cheat. And so, no, I do not want to gain that. That position of either fame or infamy and man, would I just grovel to my wife? I would almost accept the fate that she would be like, we’re done. We’ve talked about it. Amber and I, we’ve talked about it. She said, hey, if if.
SPEAKER 06 :
If anybody knows better than us or would like to chime in and talk to us, guys, call us at 303-477-5600. We want to hear your take on it.
SPEAKER 07 :
We want to hear some of your cheaters calling in. So the standing agreement between my wife and I, if we cheat, if I cheat, or if she cheats, it’s just pack it up, done, walk away.
SPEAKER 06 :
But she’s not going to go to social media and be like, hey, dude, ruin this guy.
SPEAKER 07 :
Ruin your company. No, because that’s hanging on to me. You don’t know that, man. That’s the thing.
SPEAKER 06 :
He might know. He’s been married long enough.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, that’s the thing.
SPEAKER 06 :
So if you guys can be cordial and part ways, fine. As long as she ain’t trying to ruin your company and put you on the street, that’s dirty.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right. But then how much have I ruined her reputation by making her look like a fool if I was the one cheating in that position? Good question. Yeah, you got a good point there. Tell me that her friends, family, oh, I always knew. I always knew he was a cheater.
SPEAKER 06 :
Or whatever. I don’t even know what family member that was. That was the mother-in-law. Andre, we’re going to ask you the same question. What would you do?
SPEAKER 08 :
Oh, man. If I was Andy in Andy’s shoes?
SPEAKER 06 :
Oh, is that his name? Yeah. Oh, I didn’t even know his name.
SPEAKER 07 :
I’m glad we came up with his name because I hated when Brock was calling him a gentleman. I didn’t know his name. Andy the Cheater. Andy.
SPEAKER 08 :
Andy the Cheater. Just call him Andy the Cheater. Okay, Andy the Cheater. Oh, man. If I was in that position, I… I’d feel pretty bad because I realize I probably destroyed the future of not only my wife and family. I’ve caused a division. I’ve created such a stain on my children’s lives. But oddly enough, if you look at Bill Clinton, man, that dude cheated with Monica Lewinsky, and that guy got the free side. But I will say he did not have sex with that woman, though, right?
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah. That’s funny you mention Bill Clinton because he’s on the list. You have John F. Kennedy, Donald Trump. George Cleveland, Franklin D. Roosevelt, all these dudes.
SPEAKER 08 :
Is that Cleveland? Is that from Family Guy?
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah. I mean, infidelity runs rampant. Me, what I think I would do is, if it was in that situation… I’d eat a bullet. What? I think. I don’t think the wife’s mad. No way. I think. I think. No. Okay. Here’s the reason why. Here’s the reason why I would. No, you got bad advice. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Here’s the reason why I think I would. Okay? And if I didn’t do that, okay, eating a bullet’s a little harsh. I think what I would do is I’d pack up everything and I would move someplace far away. Here’s what I can tell you. And this is the reason why I would. It’s because wherever this gentleman lives, social media is wrecking him. Period. He may not be able to come back from it. Well, I do think people come back from these things.
SPEAKER 08 :
He could come back from it. Slick Willy did.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, okay. Who’s a Slick Willy? Okay, how about this? How about this? We were all talking about divorces, and I didn’t even talk about mine. But we talked about divorce, and haven’t we all gotten better and grown and become better? You know what I mean? Experience has made us better people from what we went through.
SPEAKER 06 :
Right. No, 100%. Right. But our spouses are the ones that cheat, though.
SPEAKER 07 :
Maybe this guy just was never caught. Maybe he was caught a few times and it wasn’t so bombastic. It wasn’t out there. It wasn’t like this. Um, and so it was never rock bottom. Maybe this is rock bottom for him. Maybe this is rock bottom for the woman.
SPEAKER 08 :
And how many times has he cheated before? Right.
SPEAKER 07 :
That’s what I’m saying. But, but then is it, is what is that enabling or is that culpability for the person who remains in a relationship with the cheater? Right. And I’m not victim shaming here. I get you.
SPEAKER 08 :
I get you.
SPEAKER 07 :
But I’m saying if you know and you stick with the person, then shame on me. Fool me twice. Fool me twice.
SPEAKER 06 :
Shame on you. Right, right. I mean, the heart does strange things, guys. It does. Guys, I’m telling you. And right, I love myself. I would never eat a bullet, but I’m leaving. I would move, guys. I would move. I don’t know, Alaska someplace. But here’s the problem. I don’t think you can run from your problems.
SPEAKER 08 :
No, you never can.
SPEAKER 07 :
No, you never can.
SPEAKER 08 :
But the crazy thing is when you think about, speaking of eating a bullet, is how often does that happen where, you know, a lot of men, when they find out and come home and… Their wife’s been cheating. You know, there’s so many people that have ate a bullet, right?
SPEAKER 06 :
Guys, I’ve never said this on the air, but I will say it right now. When I went through my divorce, it was so drastic and detrimental. I have this guy in my church. His name is Kerry. He looked me in the face. He had no idea. Dude, I was jacked up in the head going through a divorce, dude. I didn’t know whether I was coming or going. Dude, I would sleep in my driveway of my car because I didn’t want to walk into my house. I was messed up so detrimental. Dude, to sit back and say suicide didn’t run through my mind, I’d be a liar. Dude, I was 27 years old. You’re right, buddy.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 06 :
So sitting back and saying guys will turn around and eat bullets, they do all the time. So Kerry had no idea what was running through my mind, and this is crazy. He walks up to me out of the blue one day and says, whatever you do, you don’t commit suicide. I’m like, what? It was like a fleeting thought ran through my mind. I’m like, where did that come from? And all of a sudden, somebody’s addressing it in my life. It was crazy.
SPEAKER 08 :
I believe it. I believe it. Because come to think about it, I kind of contemplated that too.
SPEAKER 06 :
Oh, dude. When you’re young, you don’t know what’s going on.
SPEAKER 08 :
And some people do the murder-suicide thing.
SPEAKER 06 :
This is a deep discussion. Anybody who knows more, call us at 303-477-5600.
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, yeah. When I when my divorce was happening, it was Amy and I and I was young. We were together four years and then she she was working. And this is why I said something about work. Like when people are at work, they start having and establishing a relationship with somebody. Yeah. It becomes a little bit more and more. And so there was somebody that she was like keen on and and and. I don’t think she had cheated, but then when we talked, it was about us separating amicably. And so that we were getting a divorce and we tried to live in the household while going through that divorce. And oh my God, the things that like flooded out from that. And so to the suicide note, when I felt that I was like just decimated emotionally, And how am I failing my relationship? And this is the thing. Sometimes, sadly, with biblical, people put so much weight on themselves in their marriage. Like, if it fails, I’ve failed.
SPEAKER 06 :
Oh, for sure. For sure. Because I hate to say it, that’s what we’ve been taught.
SPEAKER 08 :
It’s always the man’s fault. If the man was this, if the man was that. I hear it all the time.
SPEAKER 06 :
And you know what was hurting me most of all? It wasn’t that I felt like I failed my family. going through a divorce god that i felt god i felt like i failed my kids and there’s been a repercussion from that people listen call us at 303-477-5600 i can’t believe we’re talking about all this my kids have been so jacked up from a divorce that i went through that my youngest She still blames me today. If she was to call in right now, she would say, hey, dad, you’re a piece of garbage because you divorced my mom. Well, she didn’t know the whole story. So what I’m saying, this gentleman, I’m not giving him a pass. But what I’m saying is if he doesn’t find a way to get away from social media and figure his crap out, it will consume him. I didn’t even do the cheating. Neither did you. Neither did you. And it was consuming me, man.
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, but the messed up thing. So the two points for me was, when I was so low with the, with the relationship that we were going through a divorce, um, I did pull into it cause I had four properties. Remember?
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 07 :
I had four houses. And so I pulled into the garage of the house that was vacant and I sat there with the car on for about an hour and a half, two hours. And fortunately there’s not enough, there’s not enough carbon monoxide because the catalytic converters and stuff like that. So I’m like, I opened the door and I was a little woozy and I got out. Um, Were you trying or was it like… Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER 06 :
So guys, why do guys, why do, when you go through a divorce, why does it run through your mind like that?
SPEAKER 07 :
Depth of disparity, no hope.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, and you know, typically if you’ve married someone, you know, the old saying is till death do you part, you know, through thick and thin or whatever. The good and the bad. But what happens when that other person chose to, you know, not be a partaker of that? I mean, my ex, she told me right at the end of the day, she was like, I just wanted to have an open relationship. But, you know, if you would have known if I would have known that ahead of time.
SPEAKER 07 :
That’s what she said.
SPEAKER 08 :
That’s what it was. Well, dang, I didn’t know that.
SPEAKER 06 :
Guys, because I’ll be honest with you, through everything I went through, I got stuck paying child support. Oh, yeah. Oh, dude, it was dark days. And I’m obviously not going to go into all of it over the radio, but we are guys. We speak to men. And men that have went through what we went through can relate to us. So you can call us at 303-477-5600. Please don’t be a woman calling in and telling us because we don’t know. Completely relate. Yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER 07 :
But what I did thereafter because… How did you cope with your divorce?
SPEAKER 06 :
Let’s go down that road first.
SPEAKER 07 :
How did you cope? Okay, man. I had some stupid advice from a friend. Was it the same friend? He said two things. One, lean into work. I hear that all the time. That’s good advice. That’s not bad advice. Yeah, I leaned into work. But, you know, when you’re a workaholic. But anyway, I leaned into work. And the other thing was I leaned into women. Okay. So I was with like… like 20 or 30 women in like a two month period. I’d never done that before in my life. I felt like a pimp and a player and stuff. But what was crazy is I did find that I began to understand women a little bit better, understand myself a little bit better because up until that point, I hadn’t, I hadn’t really had a lot of relationships. And it brought me to a beautiful position, which was then I stopped and I prayed for my wife that I have now. We’ve been together 20 years.
SPEAKER 08 :
How did you cope? Well, very similar to what you did, Heath. You were a player? Yeah, and a pimp.
SPEAKER 06 :
What’s the movie where he talks about, you know, he wants to buy the rib? Oh, yeah. Just one rib. I’m going to get you, sucker.
SPEAKER 08 :
I’m going to get you, sucker. Yeah, yeah. Now, you know, I would say that, but you know, you reclaimed… This is the sad part about it, and I get why you did it. You reclaimed, you know… Ego. The ego. Because when that type of stuff happens, man, the first thing… Let’s just be real. You think about, man, what was I… failing at you know was it sex was it money was it you know just not being you know provider or whatever all this stuff attacks your manhood and you know for that to happen you know it’s it’s devastating but you know the beautiful part about it is um i had a lot of friends even lady friends you know that were single that would always ask me man how we never understood why you dated or why what you seen in her you know because i guess i was a one-up you know but at the time like love is blind i guess like the same goes well i believe this and if it call us at 303-477-5600 and tell us your experience or talk to the guys and
SPEAKER 06 :
Ask us questions.
SPEAKER 07 :
This is one of the things I believe is that a lot of people are in love or infatuated with the idea of being in love.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 07 :
And I’ll say that again. They’re in love with the idea of being in love. And so sometimes you get swept away when you really – you need to think clearly about is this person a good match and a good fit equally yoked for me. But we get swept up and we just try to make it work.
SPEAKER 06 :
So let me ask you this. Like – Especially, well, we’ll ask Andre, or I can use me for an example. It seems like divorce is so much more harder when you have kids. Oh, it is. Do you guys feel that way, or is that just my thought process?
SPEAKER 08 :
I feel like if, and the saddest part is I probably should have divorced before I had my kids. Okay. Yeah, because there were some things that I suspected, and of course I was right. Yeah.
SPEAKER 06 :
so sometimes you just got to listen to your intuition man your own feeling your gut because you had three boys three boys yeah and and i had three girls and and god man it’s just it’s amazing that um you stick around you stick around when you have kids yeah yeah because you know what because you put your kids first yeah right because you think you’re helping your children out Yes. Well, this is the thing, right? Like, because I used to always tell myself, um, probably let’s see, I’ve been divorced for a while now. I would say after my first five years of divorce, um, because I got put in DV classes in the whole nine yards for, for breaking a restraining order. I’ll never forget.
SPEAKER 08 :
I feel like attorneys just throw that. That’s the very first thing that attorneys do. Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER 07 :
It’s a tactic. It’s a tactic for sure. Yeah, because you hamstring and hem up the person so that they can’t even contend about the divorce proceedings.
SPEAKER 06 :
Right.
SPEAKER 07 :
Because you’re dealing with criminal charges. Right.
SPEAKER 06 :
Because here’s what’s crazy about where my mindset was at the time. I’m in these TV classes, right?
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, at that time, $30 a pop, and then you had to have an ankle monitor.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yes. Anybody who knows more than us, call at 303-477-5600. We’ve got 10 more minutes or eight more minutes. I’m in that class, right? And it’s like five years down the road. And I’m still thinking about, for the sake of my kids, I’m like, maybe I ought to make me and my ex work. And that DV counselor was like, what are you thinking, dude? That’s gone.
SPEAKER 07 :
That ship has sailed.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, like, give it up. But isn’t it weird how, like… When you’re in your 20s, like, we’re in our 40s now, but when you’re in your 20s, like, things are different.
SPEAKER 07 :
I’m kind of of the opinion, hey, if you don’t want to be around me, see ya. Yeah, especially now that you’re older.
SPEAKER 06 :
I will say right now, we’re good men in this room right here. We are some good guys. Been through some stuff. Yeah, because we’ve learned. You know what I’m saying? Like, I don’t want to be the douchebag who was standing up there cuddling the lady in front of…
SPEAKER 07 :
All social media, but social media is hurting him, though, too. Bro is super gray. What’s his name again? Andy. Andy. Andy the cheater. How old is Andy the cheater?
SPEAKER 06 :
I don’t know.
SPEAKER 1 :
60?
SPEAKER 07 :
70? Yeah, I think he’s 50.
SPEAKER 1 :
70?
SPEAKER 06 :
50.
SPEAKER 07 :
So I’m 40.
SPEAKER 06 :
I’m all 50.
SPEAKER 1 :
50, 70.
SPEAKER 07 :
Same difference.
SPEAKER 06 :
The point I make, another thing. I would say I’m not going to make that mistake today. Another thing, I’m not going to make that mistake today either. Another thing that gentleman just turned around, have you noticed they take the worst pictures of people and post it on social media? That was a bad picture.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, you know what was happening is they were trying to duck and dodge. Can you imagine being put on the spotlight? So shifty-eyed.
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER 08 :
It’s the highlights.
SPEAKER 06 :
Those are the highlights. If we were to give that guy some advice, what would you tell him?
SPEAKER 07 :
Stop. Stop? I would tell them, in this day and age, and I know it’s not necessarily biblical or that people really want to ascribe to this. Ascribe or prescribe? Ascribe. I think prescribe is if the doctor gives you a… But there’s so many things. You can be in an open relationship. You could be not married. How about that? If you’re just not married, then go ahead and date other people.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah. And I think if you’re in an open relationship and you’re married, I just don’t I’ve known two people that are in an open relationship. And I’ll tell you what, those marriages did not last because as soon as that other spouse joined in, it was jealousy.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 08 :
The divorce kicked in.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, how long was this guy married for? Did it say? All right. Don’t know. Maybe he was only married for… I honestly didn’t look that far. I’ve just been looking at the memes. Yeah, it’s just got so many memes. It’s got so many memes, bro. It’s horrible.
SPEAKER 08 :
It’s funny, but horrible.
SPEAKER 06 :
But at the end of the day, back to what we were saying, this dude was absolutely wrong. His character’s shot. But social media is bullying this guy.
SPEAKER 07 :
It’s the new hot topic. It really is, man.
SPEAKER 06 :
And like you said, mass destruction… Dude, social media just sucks. Social media is a form of mass destruction, buddy. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Let’s just be real with it. It’s either going to help you or it’s going to hurt you.
SPEAKER 08 :
So do you feel sorry for him now that he is on social media? If you’re starting to put yourself in his shoes?
SPEAKER 06 :
Oh, dude, I feel bad. I don’t feel bad for him getting caught cheating. He got caught. What he did was wrong. I feel even worse for his woman. But I feel bad that he’s – because, like, we talked about what’s going through his mind. Yeah. You know, he’s being blasted all over social media. And I read one person’s post. They were like, when you mess with the fire, you get burned.
SPEAKER 07 :
It’s like – What’s the scripture that because every way of them was wicked that he gave them over to a debased mind that they might be – You know what I mean? So that somebody would go so far. And do you know that God actually does that lovingly? He gives you over to the base mind so that you get so deep in the depths that you might return to him. Yeah.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, but this guy’s Christianity and all, his church probably gave him the boot. Maybe, maybe not. They don’t want to deal with that. They don’t want to deal with that.
SPEAKER 08 :
I don’t know. I think there’s some churches out there that have a good reconciliation program.
SPEAKER 06 :
Oh, you think? Yeah, yeah. Oh, okay, okay.
SPEAKER 07 :
There’s a lot of ministry on there. What is it? The test can become the testimony.
SPEAKER 06 :
There you go. That’s a true statement. And if anybody knows more than us, call us at 303-477-5600. Let us know if you think social media has gone too far with this, if they’re bullying the guy or if he gets what he deserves. Before we get off the air, let’s go around. Let’s take a vote. Do you think he gets what he deserves?
SPEAKER 07 :
I don’t think the punishment entirely fits the crime. It’s kind of like a cruel and unusual punishment, but that’s the society we live in now. Put them on blast.
SPEAKER 06 :
What about you, Dre?
SPEAKER 08 :
Man, I’ll tell you what. Some of them people that believe in karma, he must have been a bad person or must have done some bad, bad stuff for him to get that much handed to him. Retribution. Yeah, retribution. But I don’t know. I don’t believe in karma by any means. But after this whole conversation, I kind of get what you’re saying, which I kind of feel bad for him in that aspect. For sure. He made his bed, and now he has to lay in it.
SPEAKER 06 :
Right. And I think he’s getting what he deserves in that sense. So he should have never done that to his wife. But in the same sense, I think I think social media must be tearing this guy down right now.
SPEAKER 08 :
But the odd thing is that they’re tearing him down, but not really her. No, that’s what’s weird about it.
SPEAKER 06 :
I don’t even know her name still. We went a whole hour and we don’t know her name. We were just calling her the HR lady, but we know his name.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 06 :
Andy the Cheater. Andy the Cheater. That’s what’s crazy about it, dude. Those guys get a hard rap, man. I feel bad for guys, bro. We get stuck with the child support. The dog ain’t licking us no more. That’s right. The house is gone. The truck got repoed.
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, man. That’s a country song. That’s a country song.
SPEAKER 06 :
Sorry, man. We’re not trying to laugh, man. We’re just a bunch of guys having a good time. Again, you can always reach us on Saturday from 2 to 3, and we’re 303-477-5600. I don’t care what nobody says. He got what he deserved, but that’s cyberbullying to its max.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah. I mean, because I mean, if it was to happen, well, you know, and there’s there’s more benign things that people have done or been and they’ve gotten bullied online. Yeah. Yeah. I got a kid. If it’s a boy, teenagers are dirt. Yeah. And people are like they’re on him. You know, it’s just crazy.
SPEAKER 06 :
And you know what, guys, I’ll be the first to sit here and say it like like I’ve done some douchebag things before. I have to. I’m not going to lie. I have done some really bad crap.
SPEAKER 08 :
I’ve never cheated on my wife, but when I was not married, I would say everything was fair game at that point. Does that make me less of an individual? Taught me a lot. It changed me. It changed my perspective. It probably helped me
SPEAKER 06 :
So, I don’t know. And next week, we don’t know what our topic is, but people give us a call. Tell us what you think. Go to our social media page and talk to us. Put us on blast. Yeah, blast us. You douchebag. For sure. Yeah, I have people call me a douchebag all the time, man. Yeah, put us on blast. Thanks for joining us.
SPEAKER 05 :
Being a man is what you make it. You can’t always live up to expectations. You try to please everybody while you struggle so you fake it and end up out of balance compromising situations as a good man.
SPEAKER 04 :
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