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In a riveting new episode, we explore the chain of events that led the FBI to shut down the probe into the Clintons—a move mired in controversy and political maneuvering. Our discussion spotlights key figures like Andrew McCabe and Sally Yates, examining the alleged obstruction tactics employed. With expert commentary from Just the News’s John Solomon and more, we question the broader implications for justice and policy-making in the United States. Stay informed and engaged as we bring you the stories behind the headlines.
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We got breaking news. Kash Patel’s FBI reveals a 2017 plan to shut down the Clinton probe.
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Keeping you informed and engaged now more than ever. This is Sekulow. We want to hear from you. Share and post your comments or call 1-800-684-3110. And now your host, Logan Secular.
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Like John Taffer in a restaurant when he finds cockroaches, Will, you gotta shut it down! This is Logan Sekulow. I’m here with Will Haynes. We’ve got Rick Rennell joining us a little bit later in CC High. Of course, I’m talking about another Just the News bombshell article. Our friend John Solomon was on the show yesterday. As they have the FBI, I feel like they’re just like, you know what? You want to see some emails, man? You want to see some crazy stuff we found? They’re like, look what we found for 2017. This is an email or message that we got with a full-on timeline from some pretty high-level people. I don’t know, like the Deputy Attorney General Sally Yates. saying in 2017, shut it down, quoted specifically on the probe against the Clintons and the Clinton Foundation in a very opportunistic time.
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That’s right. So this is a separate investigation that the FBI was looking into doing into the Clinton Foundation, as well as her time as secretary of state. The allegations that were surrounding that kind of the in the public sphere where people were talking about some of the interesting people that were high donors to the Clinton Foundation receiving meetings or maybe other things, maybe an appointment, things of that nature while she was secretary of state. And there was even a book about it, Clinton Cash. And so this would have been during the Obama administration, while she was Secretary of State, what they would have been looking into.
SPEAKER 05 :
But it was actually during, I guess, the Trump administration.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, so it began, the FBI started looking into this actually in 2015. So the tail end of the Obama administration is when they started looking at this, they started working towards it. And the detail here is remarkable. This is a timeline that was written by a DOJ attorney assigned to the FBI under James Comey. And there’s a lot of redactions of individual names. Mainly, it appears to be U.S. attorneys, people that work in those offices or in the FBI field offices. But main names you see are people like Andrew McCabe, who was the deputy director of the FBI, the deputy attorney general, Sally Yates. These are names that we knew very well. In the starting lineup. And they were, as it appears, and we’ll get into how in the next segment, but they were putting up roadblocks at every corner to the field workers that really wanted these FBI agents had information. They had done preliminary investigations and they were being told, as Logan said, to shut down this investigation into alleged corruption at the Clinton Foundation and from former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.
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Yeah, absolutely. And look, our friends at Just the News, again, John Solomon on a different topic was on yesterday. He kind of hinted to us, yeah, keep refreshing the page. Something may be coming. This gets released. I have to say, if you want in-depth coverage, Just the News is where you go. You know, I think we do a good job here of breaking it all down for you. But I usually have, you know, I like to listen to a lot of these stories when I’m driving into the studio and make sure I’m fresh on what’s going on. And usually if it’s Fox News articles, about five minutes, four minutes listen. This one I clicked on, it was a 23 minute listen. I had to double speed this to just take it all in. And I still think there’s a lot that I am still learning from this. That’s how deep dive works. That team at Just the News gets. I want to hear from you. Phone lines are open. I know this probably isn’t that shocking because, again, it feels like we have days upon days of them revealing this, but at least we’re finding out. At least we’re finding out that suspicions were true. If you felt like things were not happening the way they should have been happening, you were right, and now you have Kash Patel and the FBI saying, yeah, and here’s the proof. Phone lines are open for you at 1-800-684-3110. Once again, 1-800-684-3110. As we are now, it’s August 14th. We are nearly… Right at the halfway mark of our 35 years of victory drive. That means all donations are doubled. Great time to give to us right now. You’ve seen this time after time this week. And the ACLJ is there always on the front lines. We’ve been there with you for the last 35 years. And without your generosity, none of the efforts we have, whether it’s the Supreme Court of the United States, whether we’re fighting to defund Planned Parenthood, we’re going to talk a little bit more about that and some of the abortion funding issues that are coming up very soon. We’re going to have CeCe Heil joining us, one of our senior attorneys here at the ACLJ, to break all of that down. Because I know you need to know beyond a show, what else do you all do? You do so much incredible work, not to diminish our show. I think our show is one of the best parts of what we do. I’m just going to say, maybe that’s selfish. But you know what? Support us, support the show, support the legal work at ACLJ.org. We’ll be right back with your phone calls and more. Welcome back to Seculo. Phone lines are open for you at 1-800-684-3110. We saw a large spike in viewers just over the last segment break, so I want to make sure we restate what’s going on, and we can move on and take some of your calls. And again, we’ve got CeCe Heil joining us, Senior Attorney here at the ACLJ, and later on, Rick Grinnell. You know, Rick, as someone who’s been a member of our team for a very long time and always has some really interesting points of view. He’s also the head of the Kennedy Center, which was shaking some things up yesterday. We’re going to talk about that. But, Will, let’s go back to the main topic. This, of course, is another FBI expose, if you will, showing. that a lot of what we thought was true was true, that there were people on the inside saying, hey, we need to be investigating what’s going on with the Clinton Foundation, what’s going on with Hillary Clinton and all these people. And of course, there are people above them, some of those top names, like I said, the starting lineup, whether that’s a Sally Yates or any of these others, really instructing in no, not in some sort of vague way to legitimately shut it down, shut down investigations that were going on.
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So here’s why this is important as well, because a lot of people like, OK, we knew that there was alleged corruption of the Clinton Foundation and Hillary Clinton and Bill Clinton and the lot. But we we need to see how our government handled that. And when it appears that our government was putting their thumb on the scale in an election year and even before an election year to their preferred people, their insiders, that needs to come out. So that there can be accountability. So it can’t happen again. So reform can happen at these agencies. And here’s what we’re seeing in this. This is a timeline that was documented by a DOJ attorney assigned to the FBI under James Comey. And what we find out is that there were three field offices, New York, Washington, and Little Rock, that all were looking into the allegations of corruption at the Clinton Foundation and a cash for access kind of scheme that was alleged there. And New York and Washington had preliminary investigations. Little Rock had a full field investigation. So they start looking into this. They start coordinating with the U.S. Attorney’s Office and especially in Little Rock. And they said, you know, I think there’s a good angle on this. We need to make sure we run it up the chain to DOJ. We start to find out that a lot of activity happens where the DOJ and the FBI are all having meetings or having video calls, one of which was held by Deputy Director Andrew McCabe in February of 2016. And so this was their first stuff that started was in August or July of 2015. So before we were really even in the election cycle, they’re looking into this.
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They’re starting to look into this.
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That’s right.
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So maybe this is when the FBI was still kind of doing their job. So at least the field agents.
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Yeah. Then it starts going up. Deputy Director McCabe led this meeting. It was a secure video teleconference call with a lot of individuals from the Criminal Enforcement Division, the Washington field office, New York field office. And he said. that we need to make sure there are no overt investigative steps to be taken on the Clinton Foundation investigation without his approval. So already out of Washington, the deputy director is saying, you can’t do anything until I give you approval of a step of an investigation. This is now seven months after they’ve already started working on this. It continues on. Then it gets up to the deputy attorney general in March of that year, about a month later. she orders the eastern district of arkansas u.s attorney’s office shut it down they don’t want to see this happening so people understand also maybe they don’t the arkansas office specifically because that’s where the foundation was well exactly well that’s where the clinton’s are from they have a lot of ties there now most of the operations were out of new york which is why new york field office was involved but little rock new york and washington field offices all independently we’re looking into this together That’s right. At least as far as we know. So then we learned she tells them to shut it down. They didn’t really. The FBI agents, because they are, we’re still looking at, we’re going over stuff. Then they started telling them, listen, you have no, once again, no overt investigative action can take place until authorized by the deputy director. Then there were people that were pushing back saying, no, we’re frustrated. Like we’ve got stuff here. There was an allegation. You’re just taking it from that one book. The field office says, no, we have confidential human sources. We have our own investigative stuff. Yes, we did use some open source things when we looked at that, but we’ve done work on this. Still told to shut it down.
SPEAKER 05 :
Human sources. What about non-human sources?
SPEAKER 04 :
I can’t speak to that, Logan. I don’t know.
SPEAKER 05 :
Why did they have to specify we have human sources?
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, unless it was signals, intelligence, things of that nature. Okay, fair.
SPEAKER 05 :
I think signals and intelligence is right. That means something different in my world.
SPEAKER 04 :
It kept going, though, throughout that entire year. How long is the timeline? It was like six pages, Logan. You would never read it. That’s why I didn’t give you the raw document. It keeps going, though, so much so that even though the deputy director of the FBI, Andrew McCabe, said, I want to be, I have to approve every process. We all went to Toy Story 4. We get to November 1st, days before the election. There’s still frustration within the FBI and in the Eastern District of Arkansas.
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2016.
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2016. Just a few days before the presidential election. The big one. Andrew McCabe sends an email officially recusing himself from the Clinton Foundation investigation. So he oversaw it and stonewalled it the entire time, not letting people go forward, say, I have to micromanage every step of this investigation. And a few days before the election, recuses himself from it. So almost to give cover of like, I didn’t play any part in this. The timeline speaks differently. After the election, the individuals are still wanting to move forward. They’re like, we have things here we need to investigate. This is a public corruption case potentially that should be worked. It is like all other public corruption cases, except for it was more sensitive. And then the DOJ told them, you know what? we want to move on right now we’re going to move on from this and turn the chapter so the entire time the Clintons from 2015 mid-year through the election were protected by individuals at the DOJ and the FBI at the same time while they were saying we don’t want to get into this that FBI agents had been working on for such a long time. These very same people, Sally Yates, Andrew McCabe, were at the forefront of breaking all the rules, breaking all the norms going after President Trump. James Comey sent spies into the White House. He sent people because he could to go interview people of the new administration. But yet something that field offices, the line agents of the FBI wanted to look at to do their job were told to stand down by Sally Yates. That’s incredible. When you start to see this on paper, And no, we weren’t just making it up in our heads of how deep this went. It’s all right there. There was a DOJ attorney that documented this timeline. And Logan, that’s why we have to talk about it. That’s why we have to bring this up because it can never happen again.
SPEAKER 05 :
I want to take a quick phone call that’s related to this because of course a lot of people are saying never happens again. That’s great. But what about now? Let’s go to Margie who’s calling online one in Massachusetts. Margie, you’re on the air.
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Hey, hi. Thanks for taking my call. Yes, that’s exactly my question. We hear so much of this corruption, things that are going on that are just mind-boggling. Yet we sit back and we’re saying, well, when is anybody really going to be brought to justice? When is anyone going to be put on trial now that they’ve found these things? There’s so much…
SPEAKER 05 :
you know deny a deniability out there i and then you come up with things like this that you’ve found that they’ve uncovered and so when does it start rolling when what do you think is going to happen well i mean getting to what it could happen i think there’s a lot of options on the table here’s what i think and look i felt this way too when all this started coming out it started feeling very much like 2016 where you’re going to have a lot of words you’re going to have a lot of things that go after hillary clinton then nothing’s going to happen The difference is you’re a very different FBI. You’re a very different administration right now. They are releasing documents that could have been released for decades at this point now, or almost a decade. Almost a decade they could have released these documents showing this. So at least you have an administration, you have Kash Patel, in that office who is at least willing to take this first step of saying, okay, we’re going to show you the evidence. Now, let’s see where we can go with that.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, and when you think about what a chaotic time it was at the beginning of that first administration of President Trump and how they effectively were able to hamstring his entire administration with the Mueller probe, with an impeachment. They were able to hide the ball over here by forcing these hoaxes on the administration to hamper any sort of these type of things to move forward. And then 2020 happens and Joe Biden is able to fill the Department of Justice with his loyalists that were certainly not going to do that. So you have to consider what happened during the first time frame. It’s not like all of a sudden the DOJ was ripe for reform and the FBI was ripe for reform. It was a fraught time. Now that people like Kash Patel and Pam Bondi are in there, that’s why, Margie, we see there is a strike force. There are grand jury investigations. They are doing what should have happened a long time ago.
SPEAKER 05 :
It’s absolutely easy to feel down because we’ve become so accustomed to this being the case. And you’re right, Margie, where all the data, all the facts are given to us and nothing happens. But you know what? I’m hopeful that it is a new day and new things can happen. So Margie, thanks for calling in. When we get back, we’re going to be joined by CeCe Howell. We’re going to talk to you a little bit about some of the ACLJ work in terms of abortion funding that’s going on and what we are doing to help in that front and make sure it is defunded, hopefully permanently. With that, we’ll have her on. Later on, Rick Grinnell is going to be joining us. Of course, we want to take more of your calls at 1-800-684-3110. We’ll get back to this topic as well a little bit later. Be right back. Welcome back to Sekulow. I always make sure that even when we’re on all these top topics, and a lot of you are watching right now, and I know you’re going to want to talk about the FBI and their conversations saying to shut down the probes into the Clinton Foundation and things of that nature. We’re going to get back to that, so don’t go anywhere. But what’s also important is we share about the work of the ACLJ, because we are right now in our 35 years of victory drive. We are talking about the victories we had and the victories we will have going forward. The ACLJ fights for life, but also fights to win. I think that’s a little bit different. I know you may say, well, of course, everyone does. That’s not necessarily true. There are a lot of people out there that are just happy to rake in fundraising, take any case possible, knowing they probably are going to lose, not fighting their best fight, because maybe it’s better for them. Maybe it’s better for them to lose financially. We don’t do that here. Some topics we’ve essentially put ourselves out of business on because of how successful we’ve been here at the ACLJ. And that’s okay, because that’s the point. We are joined now by CeCe Heil, Senior Attorney here at the ACLJ. CeCe, we got some updates on what we were doing. We’re filing briefs. We’re getting really critically involved in a lot of what’s going on for standing for life and against the federal funding of abortion and state funding of abortion.
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Yeah, and I think abortion is one we’d love to tap out of. lose any more work on abortion. We’d love to win this once and for all. So we are once again talking about that case in Massachusetts where Planned Parenthood went after the federal government for their funding freeze, which of course Congress can do. They have the power of the purse. They stopped funding to Planned Parenthoods, those that provided abortion and got over $800,000 reimbursed for Medicaid. that is absolutely in control of congress in the control of congress they can do that but planned parenthood filed in massachusetts again they look for places where they know that they will have liberal judges that will follow them like we talked about this case this judge in her opinion in the district court literally it was like a planned parenthood advertisement so um she enjoined the spending freeze that came out of the budget. She enjoined that. So that means she is forcing the federal government, our taxpayer funds to be paid to Planned Parenthood. And like we said, we’re going to follow this case as far as it goes. And the government has filed their appeal with the First Circuit, and they just filed their a motion to stay that injunction. And that means they filed a motion with the appellate court to stop the injunction of the lower court, meaning that that funding freeze, no funds going to Planned Parenthood remains in effect. And so we just just this morning filed our amicus brief in support of the government’s motion to stay. And right now we are the only amicus brief that has been filed in support of this. Hopefully there will be more, but we have filed. We’re on this. We tell everybody, you know, we’re ready and set to go. And as soon as our due date came, we filed it this morning. First thing.
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That’s right, Cece. And even with this, to show even the work of our attorneys, how closely they monitored this. Originally, they thought that our filing was going to be Friday. So a full extra day to write a brief that isn’t short and has to be correct and have the law and the facts as we present to the court correct. And find out two days ago, actually, your deadline is Thursday at noon, and our team filed it before that deadline this morning. We’re able to get that ready so that we can be on the record, so we can support the administration’s position that this is an issue that can be handled by Congress, that they can pass a law, the president can sign that into law. And they don’t have this constitutional right that they’re trying to claim to the funding and reimbursement from Medicaid. And so our attorneys are diligent, hardworking. They know the facts. They know the law. And that’s why at each stage of this, we’re going to be there. We’re going to be there filing these briefs. Even if we’re the only one outside of the parties to the case, we will be there to fight for the absolute right that Congress has to defund Planned Parenthood.
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Right, and I’ll just get into, you know, our brief says that there’s no constitutional right to subsidies for abortion providers. The Supreme Court has said that over and over and over that the government can value life over abortion. It can value childbearing over abortion. The Supreme Court has said that. Congress has the power of the purse. We make that clear. They talk about a bill of attainder, which is, A bill that actually is punishment, and it’s only been used five times, and it was for death, imprisonment, or banishment. So the fact that Planned Parenthood is simply not getting funding from the federal government, that in no way equals punishment. And then we point out that if a court tries to control the power of the purse, that actually interferes with the separation of power. So it’s a very important amicus brief. And it’s important right now because we need to make sure that this injunction is stayed, that these funds stop going to Planned Parenthood, because as we’ve talked about before, this the stop. of funding only applies to one year right now, one year. So if this injunction stays in place while this appeal is going forward, that means that it’s going to time out this one year restriction of funds. So right now we need to make sure that that injunction is, there’s a stay on it, that the funding can be withheld and Congress can do what they voted to do, what the taxpayers wanted them to do, defund Planned Parenthood. That is a law in place and it needs to be honored.
SPEAKER 04 :
And I think CeCe, even for the audience, that maybe this isn’t their issue. Maybe they don’t follow the funding of Planned Parenthood or even care about that. I mean, we very much do here at the ACLJ, but even this entire concept in the law, that Planned Parenthood is trying to say, once we were receiving this funding effectively, Congress can’t take it away forever. That the dangerous precedent that could set with fiscal conservatives that want to shrink the size of government, that want to get the bureaucracy out of so many things, that want to… see these handouts to special interest groups or non-government organizations, which are effectively quasi-government organizations, this could set precedent where anytime Congress tries to stop wasteful spending, In their opinion, if if the plaintiff comes forward and tries to say, you can’t take my money away. Right. And they start pointing to this like this has much broader implications, in my opinion, than just this specific fight.
SPEAKER 02 :
There’s no entitlement to federal funding. And it’s not just about this argument. It’s not just about taking funding away that was there. It’s even like taking funding away, just deciding not to fund something. That’s where that’s how dangerous it can be. It’s like, well, federal government, I believe you should fund me and you’ve decided that you’re not going to. But I have an entitlement to federal funding. So, yes, this goes way beyond just Planned Parenthood and abortion. It’s definitely a separation of powers issue. And it’s definitely an issue that Congress has the power of the purse and they don’t have to be forced to. to support or not support anything.
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Absolutely. I want to say thank you to those who stuck around. I’m watching. Very few people left during this part of the conversation. I know this diverts the show. It’s not the topic you clicked on. A lot of you clicked on something completely different. But we want to make sure you’re always informed on what we’re doing here at the ACLJ and also what’s happening just around the world and how you can get involved directly. That is why we’re celebrating 35 years of victory and that’s why we need your help to go on for another 35 years. Join us today. Go to ACLJ.org. We have a second half hour of the show coming up, but I know some of you got to leave at the half hour. But if you don’t. Stick around. We’ve got a great back half coming, including Rick Grinnell is going to be joining us. But phone lines are open for you at 1-800-684-3110. If you want to talk about this, if you want to talk about our fight for life, if you want to talk about specifically the Clinton Foundation probe, any of those topics, they’re on the table today. So give us a call at 1-800-684-3110. If you don’t get us, though, on your local station or you’re listening to this later, know you can watch the full hour live. That is from 12 to 1 p.m. Eastern time. And, of course, you can catch it later on on YouTube, Rumble, however you get your podcasts online. And of course, at ACLJ.org. Give today and have your donation doubled. We’ll be back in less than a minute.
SPEAKER 03 :
Keeping you informed and engaged now more than ever. This is Sekulow. And now your host, Logan Sekulow.
SPEAKER 05 :
Welcome back to Sekulow. We did want to reset a little bit. We know, thank you again for all you who stayed and listened to about our fight for life. I think it’s very important if you’re listening to the first half hour. Now we’re in the second half hour. Will, we are back at it. We want to talk about what’s going on. Rick Grinnell, by the way, is going to be joining us next. And Rick, I’m sure, is going to have a lot to say about this as well as he has some information about Adam Schiff. And of course, we’re going to talk about about the Kennedy Center, which had a big announcement yesterday with President Trump doing a full-blown press conference as President Trump will host this year’s Kennedy Center Honors, which should be a fun time. We’re going to discuss that coming up in the next segment. Before we do that, a lot of people may be clicking on, seeing the headlines, seeing the FBI told to stop and shut it down to the probes against the Clintons and the Clinton Foundation. Of course, some of these date back decades. 2015, 2016, with this direct message coming in 2017. This is what happens, Will, when you get an FBI that at least is doing their job and wanting to at least show the American people what’s been going on in the last decade.
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This is a six-page timeline. There’s a lot of redactions of names that are things… members of the U.S. Attorney’s Office or maybe field agents that aren’t publicly known or out there. But some of the key names that we do see are people like Sally Yates and Andrew McCabe. And what we know is that This investigation, at least from the Washington field office, they started looking into the Clinton Foundation around July or August of 2015. That is well before the election cycle really started for the 2016 election. And remember that Hillary Clinton didn’t even secure the pledge delegates until June 7th. As they were of 2016, they started looking into this and going through it. And every corner they turned, they were met with a roadblock, not from members of the Clinton Foundation or sources they were looking into, but from their own superiors in the government. From people like the Deputy Director of the FBI, Andrew McCabe. From people like the Deputy Attorney General, Sally Yates. They were obstructing the forward movement of the field offices. Three of them. which were looking into the Clinton Foundation alleged corruption, cash for access allegations that were out there. There was a book about it. People read about it. That was even one of the excuses that people in the government tried to say, this is just an open source investigation because you read the book. And they said, no, we have confidential human informants. We have sources. We have reporting, investigative tactics, what we’re trained to do. We want to move forward with this. And every corner they turned, it was shut down. And the person who even said, I have to have direct oversight over every single investigative step before you do it, then recused himself days before the election after almost a year and a half of that oversight, making sure he could slow it down and stop it from ever getting anywhere. And that’s exactly what happened. Meanwhile, those exact same people were breaking all the rules. in the way that they went after American citizens that work for President Trump’s election campaign, people that were nominated, put into positions within that administration after the election, the disparity of what we see, how they treated an insider to them and an outsider like President Trump is just shocking. And it’s all documented by a DOJ lawyer.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yep, absolutely. Look, we’re going to take calls when we get back. I was hoping to get some calls today. In this segment, unfortunately, we ran out of time. But stay on hold, Luann, if you’re on hold, and James, you’re on hold as well. You’ve been on hold for a while, but I will get to you. In the next segment, we’re going to have Rick Grinnell, and then I’m going to take as many calls as we can. We’ve got four lines open right now. So I encourage you right now, this does anything for you. If it’s stirring anything up, or you’ve got any questions or comments, Hit us up right now, 1-800-684-3110. Get in line, because I’ll take as many calls as I possibly can in the final segment. Next step, we got Rick Grinnell. Rick Grinnell has been a member of the ACLJ team and a member of the Sekulow broadcast team now for many years. He also serves as the head of the Kennedy Center. He is a special envoy for President Trump. He was a former director of national intelligence and also an ambassador to Germany, along with other incredible roles he’s had throughout the world. Always has great thoughts and feedback. So you don’t want to miss Rick joining us in the next segment. Of course, the Kennedy Center had a big moment yesterday unveiling who they’re going to have for the Kennedy Center Honors and who that host will be. It’s going to be a fun, fun time. We’re going to talk about that with Rick coming up. Once again, phone lines are open at 1-800-684-3110. Have your donation doubled today as part of the ACLJ 35 years of Victory Drive. Welcome back to Secular. We are now joined by Rick Grinnell. Rick has been a member of the ACLJ team here and is part of the broadcast team for a number of years. Like I said, always comes at us with very interesting information, inside information that really no one else can have, that no one else can share because you’ve been so involved in pretty much everything that’s gone on. in some form of politics, Washington, D.C., whatever it is, throughout your entire life and career. But of course, I wanted to say thank you and celebrate the fact that yesterday was a big moment for you in the Kennedy Center as it was unveiled, not only the restoration that’s going to be going as you’ve been running the Kennedy Center, but honestly, the list of people who are going to be honored this year at the Kennedy Center as part of this spectacular event that’s gone on for many, many years. And this list, a great, look, I’ll say this, a bipartisan list of of, of artists, musicians, um, people who have been involved in the arts for so many years. Uh, and of course leading the way, my favorite band, the hottest band in the world, kiss. I can’t, uh, I can’t, you know, that’s why me and your mom’s probably the only thing we’ll disagree on. Uh, it’s my love for kiss, but they have been a great American legacy story. Uh, people that came here with American dream mean Gene Simmons born in Israel. Your parents were, uh, Holocaust, uh, the evacuated from the Holocaust and moved to Israel, born in Israel, moves to New York, learns English. And now you have, uh, his band, he and Paul Stanley, another New Yorker who went through 50 years, uh, 50 years went from first generation Americans to now being honored by the White House, being honored by the Kennedy Center. And then you go down to other people who are on the list. Of course, we go into details on all of them, whether it’s Sylvester Stallone or whoever it may be. I feel like you don’t know as many details about the other slogan. Let me go through everything. Paul Stanley was a cab driver in New York City. Let’s know, Rick, I first want to say it was a long time coming. The Kennedy Center needed a lot of love. And I’m so thankful that you have been there to champion the arts.
SPEAKER 01 :
Thanks. First of all, let me just say that from the moment that the words kiss came out of President Trump’s mouth, I knew I had to check my phone to see if Logan Sekulow was still alive because I knew that he was going to have a total meltdown in that moment.
SPEAKER 05 :
Will even commented, he was like, hey, he knew how to say Ace Frehley right, which was impressive. It was impressive. My phone blew up, too, being like, did you have something to do with this? Like, no, I did not. But I wish I did.
SPEAKER 01 :
Listen, I have to say that I always knew that you would love it. So you were in my mind. I wish I could have told you beforehand, but I just didn’t trust you from immediately exploding with joy. So I had to be careful with that. But we’re really excited about the Kennedy Center Honors. What we’re trying to do at the Kennedy Center is remove politics You know, I’ve said this before. It’s really worth repeating. I like to say it constantly, but we at the Kennedy Center have not canceled a single show, a single person. All we did was to say that if you’re going to perform here at the Kennedy Center, you’ve got to… think about the money situation so if the combination of not selling enough seats or not getting sponsors is a problem for you then we’re going to hold you accountable to pay the difference because i i can’t just keep uh spending money uh that that doesn’t come in because The Kennedy Center budget has just been atrocious. But we’re cleaning it up. We made really tough choices on staff. We’ve cut back. Our fundraising now is incredible. It’s better than it ever has. But we’re digging ourselves out of a hole. And so I like to say to people, everyone is welcome. We just got to pay the bills. And so you gotta be able to have a program that attracts sponsors or seats or both. And so we’re looking to make those changes and the Kennedy Center Honors, which are Sunday night, December 7th, is a part of that. We’ve got incredible sponsors that came out. CBS is a sponsor. Delta is a sponsor. Boeing is a sponsor. We have more corporate sponsors coming forward at the Kennedy Center than we ever have. And I think that’s because we’re just changing it for common sense programming and we’re going for… people to get the honors that uh really deserve it that haven’t had the honor in the past and that appeal to the broad public without having politics involved and so even our critics uh over at the washington post and uh other places have had to admit that what president trump did yesterday was incredible and the fact that he’s gonna be the one That’s honoring them. He’s the host. He’s going to talk about their life, their career. Having the president of the United States give you the award and honor you with speaking about your career, I can’t think of a better way as an American to celebrate the greatness of arts and culture at the Kennedy Center.
SPEAKER 05 :
Absolutely. and it should be that way. And I’m very happy about that. Again, the list is George Strait, Kiss, as we said, Michael Crawford, who’s a legendary Tony Award-winning actor, Gloria Gaynor, we all know, a disco legend, and of course, Sylvester Stallone. A lineup, like you said, that most people would recognize the names, would know about it. And again, whether they are… part of the tradition of Americana or whether they have been a part of the arts in such a strong way is undeniable. And I love this lineup, Will. But of course, that’s not all we’re going to talk about. We’re not only going to talk about the arts. I could talk about that for the rest of the show, but I know we’d start losing some of our audience, Will.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, I mean, I wanted to talk about it as well, but I do think we couldn’t have you on today without asking about your favorite antagonist, the senator from your home state, California, Adam Schiff, who has… started to get in some hot water with some things that are starting to bubble up to the top now that there’s people that are doing real oversight of things in the administration. But one of the main things that came out this week, and we talked about it a couple days ago, was what just the news released and what Kash Patel had uncovered was FBI 302s that had a whistleblower that was a Democrat from the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence that was concerned about Adam Schiff authorizing leaks of classified information, things he was allowed to see, but not declassify himself. And that the entire purpose of that was to seek an indictment against the president. A lot is now coming out about this. And you even tweeted, the Democrats have seen the evidence, uh, they no longer are going to be trusting him. What are your thoughts on just everything that’s unfolding? Everything’s coming to light. We know that you revealed a lot of things while you were even acting director of national intelligence, but I just want to get your take on this.
SPEAKER 01 :
Look, back in February of 2020, somebody tweeted this this week, and I was pleased to see that somebody had Google and somebody had a memory. But back in February of 2020, we declassified a whole bunch of information. And back then, we proved that Adam Schiff played politics, manipulated the truth, lied to the American people. all for political gain. And we proved that through declassifying documents showing his attacks on Mike Flynn were totally phony and fake. And what should have happened in February of 2020 is Bill Barr, who is the Attorney General, should have immediately taken that and he should have indicted Adam Schiff. The evidence is there of what Adam Schiff did and the manipulation. I think as a politician, as the chairman of the Intelligence Committee, someone who goes on TV and says, trust me, I know what I’m talking about, but I can’t tell you because it’s intel. He was lying. We now know he was lying. And I think it’s disgraceful that he was allowed to continue without facing consequences. I hope that changes. I think that he still needs to be held to account for it. The evidence is there. And this week, somebody reminded the world that we knew about this in February of 2020. The Biden team didn’t do anything about it. And so now it’s high time that the Department of Justice go after this. One thing I do know is my friend Kash Patel, who is focused on transparency and is doing a great job, is someone who understands all of the manipulation of Russiagate. And so I hope that Kash as well is looking at the evidence and saying, talking to the Department of Justice because it’s the Department of Justice that has to file the indictments, not the FBI. And I believe that it’s high time that Adam Schiff faced these consequences. The evidence is there for anyone to look at. Transparency is not political. We just uncovered the truth. And we now know that Adam Schiff completely was lying and manipulating and utilizing the intelligence to go after a person who was about to become the national security advisor for the United States of America. It’s really disgraceful what he did.
SPEAKER 05 :
That’s right, Rick. We only have about a minute and a half here, so I just wanted to say again, thank you for all the work you’ve been doing here at the ACLJ as well. As we are celebrating 35 years right now, 35 years of victory, and we move forward for another 35 years, I just want to give you a second to just say thank you to you for being a part of this team for a number of years, lending your voice and your message, because there are very few people that have the insight you have from as inside as you do and know that we really, really appreciate it. You’ve been a huge part, a huge part of growing this broadcast, and I want to thank you for that.
SPEAKER 01 :
Well, thank you. I am so proud to be a part of the ACLJ family because we do good work. I say this often, but we don’t just talk about it. We have a team of lawyers. We have offices. And we do this work to fight against government lack of transparency, against manipulation by politicians, and just the outrages that we see in our society. And we couldn’t do it without our partners. And so I hope people… believe in the mission. I hope that they will reach out and join us, contribute, knowing that we’re not just talking about these problems, but we have a whole team of people that have to be paid that are on the front lines challenging the system and really making a difference.
SPEAKER 05 :
All right. Thank you, Rick, so much. When we get back, we’re going to hear from now the most important voice in the room, and that’s you. So give us a call at 1-800-684-3110. Get in line. We’re going to take as many calls as we can. Coming right up. All right, last segment of the day. It flew by today. We got two lines open at 1-800-684-3110 if you want to call in. Some of you have been a hold for a long time. All of you are watching on YouTube, which is pretty cool. I like to see that. I like to see when new media starts shifting and we get people to call in who are just watching online. Luann’s calling from Florida. On line two. Luann, thank you for holding so long. You’re on the air.
SPEAKER 09 :
Hi, how are you? Great. All right, my question is this. With all this corruption to be so prevalent in our government, it had to go back a bit. Now, as far as the Clintons go, they’ve gotten away with it for so long. But I read an article yesterday, according to, you know, our laws, the president, he has presidential immunity. But in the article I read, Barack Hussein Obama may not have presidential immunity because he was still involved after… Our president, President Trump, was sworn in in 2017. According to this article, President Obama was still involved in this witch hunt on President Trump.
SPEAKER 05 :
We’ve seen some of that play out. Go ahead, Luann.
SPEAKER 09 :
I’m sorry, just I’m curious as to where are these indictments, because growing up in the Bronx, you know, the saying was you can indict a ham sandwich. Well, why aren’t these ham sandwiches getting indicted? Where are the indictments from our Department of Justice?
SPEAKER 04 :
there well so let’s uh let’s break it down for a little bit though but we know that barack obama was at least involved in some ways post okay or the obama you’d say organization the the individuals that that we know of uh luann to that point yes i mean it is accurate that if president obama while he was former president was doing things that were criminal post his presidency that presidential immunity doesn’t extend to that in that way we’re just getting kind of clarity on presidential immunity right it’s kind of new but also to that fact where the indictments i think um We know that there’s a grand jury investigation, that they are gathering the materials to present to the grand jury to seek indictments. We don’t know against which people. We know where the investigations were, at least reportedly. But I genuinely do believe we will see indictments brought against individuals based off the movement of the DOJ. I also, yes, you can indict a ham sandwich. but you can’t necessarily convict a ham sandwich. So the other part of that, Luann, is that if you want the Department of Justice to do this correctly, if you want them to get indictments that turn into convictions, they have to have the facts on their side. They have to have the case laid out. This is a new team. They need to be able to do this right. And I think the faith in the system demands that they do it right. Because if it is sloppily done, if it doesn’t yield justice in any way, and you still have to have faith in the justice system to get to a conviction because it is set up that you’re innocent until proven guilty by law. jury of your peers so we have to keep that all in mind we can see all the evidence we can hope it leads down the road to justice but we still have to let it play out because we believe in the rule of law and we believe that our system while every system has flaws in it we believe that we have the best system on earth and we need to protect that yeah absolutely now if you were to convict a ham sandwich if all of your indictments turned into convictions what would that uh i mean i think what it would be
SPEAKER 05 :
What could you actually convict? I know, I was trying to come up with a really funny pun.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, you can’t come up with it.
SPEAKER 05 :
On the fly, but… And you said sloppy, I thought. Another sandwich. sloppy joe sloppy joe biden oh no that’s what he called him right that’s the president trump that was his nickname he was sleepy joe sleepy joe thought it was sloppy joe that’s what people call me in the chat they’re like put on a jacket uh let’s go to james who’s calling in i think arkansas online one who is in youtube or he’s in youtube he’s on youtube watching uh james go ahead
SPEAKER 06 :
You guys lost track of what we was talking about. I never had an opinion about abortion, but then I listened to you guys, so now I got a question. Go ahead. Can we abort the mother and keep the baby?
SPEAKER 05 :
James, I understand what you are maybe saying. I’m glad you waited on hold for 37 minutes for that. But I understand that the idea of you never thought you’d have to do this. There are a lot of conversations where you get concerned about that. We’re not someone here to even shame women on here that even have had abortions. We know that is a very tough decision. We know that no one takes it lightly. And we also know that it’s something that people deal with in a very intense way. and it sticks with them that being said we also fight for the pro-life pregnancy resource centers those incredible centers that are there for the mothers for expectant mothers who need that guidance and that help that aren’t just guided into one choice they’re actually guided into options and that option could be adoption that option could be child care a lot of them provide a lot of necessities whether that’s food whether that’s formula whether that’s clothing and diapers um That’s why we fight for those people. So I know you may have been saying that sarcastically, but I don’t take it that way. No, that is something we really stand up for. It’s not only just for the children and to make sure that children are not only born, but are born and thrive, but also make sure these mothers also have the ability to thrive or to make the best decisions for their family. So I appreciate you calling in because it gave me the option to talk about it. Let’s go to Roger who’s calling in Alaska. Is that right? That’s Alabama, Logan.
SPEAKER 04 :
Alabama.
SPEAKER 05 :
Sorry, the L and the K. You’re only thinking about the Alaska Summit tomorrow.
SPEAKER 01 :
I get it. That’s what it was.
SPEAKER 05 :
The L and the K, they’re right next to each other on the keyboard. Right. I like you looked down just to make sure I was right. No, I mean, I knew you were right. Some of us QWERTY. Go ahead. Go ahead, Roger. You’re on the air.
SPEAKER 08 :
I’ve got a couple of questions that have been bothering me. When I went to school, I had to take two Constitution tests. If I didn’t pass them, I couldn’t graduate. Some of the things I’ve seen them do, manipulating the law, one of them that they banged into our head was no past potemper laws. Now, I’ve watched them twist and manipulate that against Trump and charge him for things in the past and try to convict him of it like the law was back there, but it wasn’t. And then they think that they are protected against these people and they cannot be prosecuted and there’s an old expression down here in arkville alabama if you know uncle jimmy joe bob you ain’t going to get in trouble is this how this is actually going to go down and why did not the burnout bags get burnt well as we know alabama known for not having any corruption in their uh in their law enforcement or their government we know no problems in there uh but uh roger uh to go to your point we only got two minutes left
SPEAKER 05 :
To go to your point, when it comes to all of these situations and the feet dragging that happens and the delays in this, some of it’s inevitable. And when it comes to some of these are new laws, you got to think presidential immunity is something that’s brand new. There was something that just got passed. And now President Trump is saying, yeah, Barack Obama probably should be thanking me because I was able to do that knowing that there’s some of these Supreme Court ruling. So, yes, some of it actually would go back in time, if you will. But it just depends on the law.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, and to Roger’s point about Jimmy Joe Bob, the Clintons may have not known him, but it did seem that there was… This is Roger Clinton calling. Oh, that’d be incredible. I don’t think it is. But you look at what you see in this timeline, you see that Andrew McCabe was putting roadblocks at every step for an investigation. You see Sally Yates saying, shut it down. That expression rings true in many ways when you read this timeline.
SPEAKER 05 :
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