This episode of A Guy’s Perspective opens with a sobering reflection from Martin Luther King Jr. on the nature of racism, laying the foundation for a raw and wide-ranging conversation about the First Amendment and the power of speech. Joe Lyon, Brock, Heath Hine, and the crew dive into why freedom of speech was prioritized as the first constitutional amendment, exploring its implications for religion, media, politics, and everyday life.
They draw comparisons between authoritarian regimes and America’s liberties, highlight how speech fuels division and unity, and wrestle with modern controversies—from pronouns and political rhetoric to Charlie Kirk’s shooting and
SPEAKER 11 :
I can’t hide myself I don’t expect you to understand I just hope I can explain What it’s like to be a man It’s a lonely road And they don’t care about what you know It’s not about how you feel But what you provide inside that home
SPEAKER 12 :
Welcome to A Guy’s Perspective, where they discuss real-life topics that men today are dealing with. Whether married, single parent, or just single, we invite you to call in to this live program with your comments and questions. And here they are.
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That racism is still alive in American society and much more widespread than we realize. We must see racism for what it is. It is a myth of the superior and the inferior race. It is the false and tragic notion that one particular group One particular race is responsible for all of the progress, all of the insights, and the total flow of history. And the theory that another group or another race is totally depraved, innately impure, and innately inferior. In the final analysis, Racism is evil because its ultimate logic is genocide.
SPEAKER 06 :
How’s everybody doing today? This is KLZ 560 AM, The Guy’s Perspective. That’s going to be hard to follow right there. Martin Luther King was laying it down. You can always reach us at 303-477-5600. Let’s go around the room and announce ourselves.
SPEAKER 15 :
Hey, this is Joe Lyon, Weaponized Nation. That’s W-P-N-I-Z-D dot shop for the website. I’m glad to be here.
SPEAKER 05 :
I love it. I’m Brock. And this is Heath Hine, the actor in Denver, Colorado.
SPEAKER 06 :
And if y’all were listening to the start of this, we kind of played an audio, and we’re going to talk about our First Amendment freedom of speech, and we’re going to go into it about the book we’re going to write. It’s interesting because… Like freedom of speech, have you ever wondered why it’s like the very first one out of all the other amendments?
SPEAKER 05 :
Maybe in a quick summation it would be so that all the rest of the words mattered. Any of the other rules mattered after that.
SPEAKER 06 :
That’s probably telling the truth right there. What do you think?
SPEAKER 15 :
There’s also a lot of power in the tongue too. Yeah. Like you could sow good, you could sow evil, you know,
SPEAKER 05 :
Your words are everything. Yeah, the power of life and death are in your tongue, and those that love it eat its fruit.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yes, sir. If we didn’t have the First Amendment, what would happen to us as a group of guys? We surely wouldn’t be writing a book.
SPEAKER 05 :
And we wouldn’t be on this radio show.
SPEAKER 06 :
That’s true. I didn’t think about that.
SPEAKER 15 :
I mean, you’d probably have a lot less fights with your wife, I’d imagine. Oh, if there was no freedom of speech, everybody got to shut their mouth.
SPEAKER 06 :
So if there wasn’t freedom of speech, do you think a lot of people would be locked up today for voicing their opinion about things?
SPEAKER 15 :
I mean, I think as Americans, we take it for granted. Look at places like North Korea, right? If you go against the prime leader, you’re executed. Wow. I mean, imagine if that was our reality. Yeah. Wow. That’d be horrific.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER 15 :
That’s a dictatorship. Nobody wants that. And the freedom of speech allows us to ask questions, to challenge, to speak out against our government, not just the freedom of speech to say whatever we want, but to challenge, to raise awareness, to, you know, just get your thoughts and your voice heard without fear of death or prosecution, persecution. It’s… I mean, imagine some other countries, like what they go through not having that one freedom that we take for granted here. Yeah.
SPEAKER 06 :
He’s making a good point. Absolutely, Joe. Because that First Amendment freedom of speech, and we’ll read what it is, but it gives us the freedom of press, the right for peaceful assembly. the right of protest, and the freedom of religion. That’s all under the freedom of speech. Freedom of religion is under that too? Yeah, under the First Amendment. I didn’t know that until I looked it up. So First Amendment says Congress shall make no law representing any establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof or abridging the freedom of speech. So it all falls under the First Amendment, which is crazy. So if you were to get rid of the First Amendment, like you said, we would be some third world country where we’d have a dictator who would…
SPEAKER 15 :
Probably lock up a lot of people or… I don’t know how many survivors we would have if we didn’t have the First Amendment. Think about that. Think about our population. How few of us there would be for saying the wrong thing. Yeah.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, you know what I think about all the time, right? It’s like the Bible. If we didn’t have the First Amendment, they would try to get rid of that probably. Yeah. I mean, because of the laws and the truths that are behind it, I think that would probably be the first thing society would try to get rid of if we didn’t have the First Amendment, right?
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, absolutely. Well, how does this play out for when people say things that you don’t like that they’re saying? And we have division and stuff. Obviously, sometimes people take up arms against someone for what they said. sometimes people like go fist to cuffs and they get in a fight just because somebody said some words remember what was the thing uh uh what what you say and stones and sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me or whatever i’m rubber you’re glue whatever you say bounces off of me and sticks to you what will you make you can’t just leave words like i don’t know you made a good point because charlie kirk right like like
SPEAKER 06 :
For speaking his mind. How long ago was that? Like three weeks now he got shot?
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 06 :
He probably got shot for speaking his mind, man. That’s probably really what happened.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, look at Jimmy Kimmel. He was banned for I don’t know how many episodes for something that he said. He didn’t lose his life. And he sows more hate rhetoric and division than Charlie Kirk could ever imagine.
SPEAKER 06 :
Oh, yeah, for sure.
SPEAKER 15 :
It’s a slap on the wrist.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, and a slap on the wrist. That’s crazy.
SPEAKER 05 :
Let’s not forget the guy who opened up this show, Martin Luther King, shot for an idea, a dream that wasn’t liked by his enemies.
SPEAKER 15 :
I don’t know. If you look at the current reality that we’re living in today, if you’re on – the opposite side of the fence or the wrong side of the fence. If you say something that hurts someone’s feelings these days, like not addressing the proper pronoun, all of a sudden you’re in trouble. How am I supposed to know what you identify as? You look like a duck, you talk like a duck, you’re a duck.
SPEAKER 06 :
Wow, he’s opening a can of worms. And in this show, that’s what we do, man. I love it.
SPEAKER 15 :
No, he’s bringing up a good point.
SPEAKER 05 :
Absolutely.
SPEAKER 15 :
So there’s freedom of speech in that scenario, right? Yeah. I mean, your life is your life. I don’t have to accept it. I can love you. I don’t, but I don’t have to agree with that. I don’t have to address you a certain way because of how you identify and how am I the aggressor or how am I in the wrong for saying the wrong thing to you? Right. Like your feelings are more important than mine. They’re not right.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right.
SPEAKER 15 :
Wow, that’s deep right there.
SPEAKER 06 :
Oh, we already got some. No, no, no. I mean, what you’re saying is right. Like, we should all be able to voice how we feel without being scrutinized, without being judged, without being punished in some way, shape, or form. I think it’s wild. What’s up, Truce Daddy?
SPEAKER 14 :
So boys are speaking of freedom of speech, but people tend to forget, yes, you do have freedom of speech, but there’s also consequences when you exercise those rights depending on where you’re at, where you work, and stuff like that. It doesn’t give you free speech anywhere. My understanding of freedom of speech is only protected by government facilities if you work there, not private employers or anything like that. So I can’t go into work and say whatever I want without facing consequences. Wow. Even though I do have freedom of speech. You know, I can say whatever I want, but… Yeah, you’re correct on that.
SPEAKER 15 :
I mean, obviously there’s limitations to freedom of speech. I mean, that’s written into the company or the corporation’s bylaws of what you can or can’t do. But in this context, we’re just referring to your opinion and, like, your beliefs. That’s… Not necessarily in line with employment and what the rules and regulations are for that job, but just in a generality, just being able to speak your mind without fear of consequence. But obviously, you can’t have freedom of speech if you’re inciting a riot, right? So words are still important. There’s things that you can and can’t do.
SPEAKER 05 :
Was it iced tea and body count, or was it a public enemy who said, freedom of speech, yeah, boy, just watch what you say? Right on, Choose Daddy.
SPEAKER 06 :
Thanks for calling in, buddy.
SPEAKER 05 :
All right. Later. But you do. You have to watch what you say, man.
SPEAKER 06 :
But he’s making a good point, though. Is freedom of speech really freedom of speech? Because like you said, you can’t cause an uprising. But look at music. It causes it 24-7. There’s some crazy stuff in songs.
SPEAKER 05 :
I agree with him, though, man. I agree with Truth Daddy. What he said is it’s freedom of speech. But, yes, you’ve got to know the time and place because there are consequences. Like, okay, if you go to your mother-in-law’s house and she cooks something and you tell her how terrible it is with freedom of speech, you might get slapped or you might not get food next time. Or grounded. Or grounded. There’s a consequence.
SPEAKER 06 :
If you get on a plane and holler a bomb, man, you’re probably going to jail.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah. Well, again, that’s not really in line with freedom of speech. That’s voicing a threat.
SPEAKER 06 :
That’s voicing a threat. Right. No, no, no. He’s right because there are certain things that make exceptions for freedom of speech. Yeah. If you go out here on Colfax and just start waving your hands like a crazy person and say, hey, Colorado’s going to get blown up, they’re probably not going to say anything to you. But if you walk into the governor’s office and say, I got a gun, you’re probably getting taken down, man.
SPEAKER 15 :
In the context of today’s topic, with freedom of speech as it pertains to the First Amendment, You have to hone in on the fact that it’s freedom of speech of religion, freedom of speech pertaining to the government and voicing your opinion or your thoughts on the government. It’s not saying whatever you want whenever you want. There’s still guidelines within that First Amendment in the subcontext of the descriptions.
SPEAKER 06 :
And do you think that’s what our forefathers were meaning when they gave us the First Amendment? Like, you can speak up, but in like an umbrella of this is what you can and can’t say.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, I think so. I mean, it was also to keep the government in check. The government was never formed to be what it is today. The government was formed to help the people, not go against them, not to sow hate and sow division and try to control everybody. And that’s what our government is essentially doing now. We have our last election on Kamala’s side. Her whole campaign was Trump’s a Nazi, Trump’s a racist. So now you have a lot of people on the left who adopted that idea and And now if you voted for Trump, you’re a misogynist, you’re a racist, you’re all these other things. And our government elect should never do those things. They should never try to intentionally sow hate and racism and division amongst its people. They’re there to serve us. We’re not supposed to serve them. And so it’s just gotten completely out of hand.
SPEAKER 06 :
And if anybody wants to call in at 303-477-5600 and tell us if we’re right or wrong, and you’re not a Republican, tell me, is he right? I mean, was Kamala at the wrong with everything she said? And why was she able to get away with that kind of stuff?
SPEAKER 05 :
Man, you know, I know we’re on, like, such topics of politics and everything here, and I really don’t follow it as much as I probably ought to be knowledgeable and speak upon it. But, yes, I have a wife who is vegan. Yes, I live on a sanctuary of farms. He drives a Prius. Tesla. Driving Tesla.
SPEAKER 04 :
Drives a Tesla.
SPEAKER 05 :
That’s so funny, man. But, you know, I mean, I would say that, you know, yeah we could point the finger about like um trump being being villainized or something like that but the same thing there’s trump is in office now and aren’t there people who are still balking squawking and talking about uh obama yeah still talking about biden what are you doing your your your your government is under the control that you wanted it to be under so so like pull your pants up shut up move forward you got you got your president you got your president i
SPEAKER 07 :
Absolutely love it.
SPEAKER 05 :
No, no, no, no. Because we can only go so far where we’re talking, hey, about the victim and all that stuff.
SPEAKER 06 :
Let’s move forward. So when it comes to our book, and for all our listeners out here, we’re about to write a book, and it should be out sometime January or February next year, but… Does writing, is that covered under freedom of speech? Or is that something completely different? Because I would think if you write, that’s still freedom of speech, freedom of press. Like being able to say what you say on paper should be the same as if it comes out of your mouth, right?
SPEAKER 15 :
As long as it’s not a manifesto.
SPEAKER 06 :
Oh, that is deep. Or slanderous.
SPEAKER 15 :
Slander, libel, defamation.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right.
SPEAKER 06 :
That’s real deep right there.
SPEAKER 05 :
With a litigious society as we have, you’ve got to be careful about the people that you blast, the people that you whistleblow.
SPEAKER 06 :
So that brings up the next point. So you said defamation. I was going to get on that. No, it’s an interesting thing. If you think about our court system and the way it’s set up, if you have… Let’s say somebody’s going through a divorce and their significant other puts a restraining order on them. You’re now like basically in front of all society saying this person’s a piece of garbage. Isn’t that defamation of character?
SPEAKER 15 :
I don’t think it’s defamation if it’s fact-based.
SPEAKER 06 :
Oh, if it’s fact-based. No, no, no. That’s right. If it’s fact-based and it’s not.
SPEAKER 15 :
If you have proof, then it’s fact, right? Yeah.
SPEAKER 06 :
Gotcha.
SPEAKER 05 :
But, I mean, because I’ve been in legal battles before, being, you know, domestic violence and stuff like that. And you won against Shores. Yeah, yeah. But my issue with that was I feel that it is legal abuse. That’s what I call it, legal abuse. It’s when somebody utilizes or is even told to utilize the law in some way to hamstring somebody so that they can’t defend themselves in, like, a civil matter. Which…
SPEAKER 15 :
You’re touching on the fact that that’s what our government does, too. Yes. Weaponizing the law for their own agenda. Yes.
SPEAKER 06 :
Do you guys feel like that’s what our government does? Weaponize the law?
SPEAKER 15 :
It absolutely does, on both sides.
SPEAKER 05 :
It doesn’t matter if you’re left or right. Yeah, we’re being played. We’re being played. And the important thing is that we break down those barriers between us, where it’s men against women, black against white, gay against straight. We’re all citizens. We’re not consumers. But that’s what we’re looked upon as, as consumers themselves. And so that’s why the elite and the governments and the big corporations are playing us all against one another.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, you have to ask this question. How do you control people? Division. Division. Yeah, divide and conquer. So they’re dividing all of us, making us hate each other. Look at what they’re doing behind closed doors.
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This is good, people. Call in at 303-477-5600. You guys are going down. Y’all are talking deep today, man. Y’all came prepared.
SPEAKER 06 :
no that’s that’s true i mean because look religion even causes division yeah i mean that’s like one of the causes for like war i mean look at the middle east and stuff like that yeah yeah love thy neighbor as thyself except if they’re muslim yeah except if you know what i mean like so so do you think that all do you think that all like When people talk evil like that, is that part of racism too, like Martin Luther King was talking about? Or is it just a form of it that leads into racism?
SPEAKER 15 :
I don’t really think that’s racism as it pertains to religion. That’s probably just more judgment and ignorance, if anything.
SPEAKER 06 :
Okay, so when you have somebody who’s a different religion, like you can have someone who’s Catholic and Baptist and they don’t even want to talk to each other because of their religion, you don’t think that’s like a form of racism? I think that’s ignorance.
SPEAKER 15 :
I mean, if you actually study God and study the word, you’ll realize that Muslim goes to the same God that we serve.
SPEAKER 06 :
What do you mean?
SPEAKER 15 :
It’s all the same God. Every religion is the same God. It’s just there is a different interpretation of the word.
SPEAKER 06 :
Oh, I get what you’re saying. I get what you’re saying.
SPEAKER 15 :
Okay. But it all goes to the same God unless you’re atheist. But outside of that, Muslims are praying to the same God that we serve. It was that division with Abraham, right? Ishmael. Ishmael and Sarah.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 15 :
So like one side goes one way, the other side goes the other way. But it’s the same God.
SPEAKER 05 :
And all that stuff started. Same prophets. All that stuff started because Abraham was told that he was going to have a son. And then his wife and him conspired against God to have him be with Hagar.
SPEAKER 06 :
his her her handmaid yeah and then later she hated that kid yep she was like you’re not gonna have any part with this and so she yeah yeah that that consequences people well i just i think about it all the time right because words are so powerful words can either cause people to turn their life to god words can cause people to commit suicide let’s be real like yeah like it’s bad words are powerful yeah like you can hate speech yeah and so i really think about religion like
SPEAKER 15 :
what god that would be a cool segment to do right like why is there so many different religions and why do they clash so oh you think it’s a power thing huh power control i mean a lot of churches let’s be honest i mean obviously we go to church but church is business business like church is corporation there’s a lot of money in church look at the catholic that’s funny he says that people don’t want to believe that that’s that’s true
SPEAKER 06 :
No, no, no, he’s right.
SPEAKER 05 :
People don’t want to believe that. Joe’s absolutely right, and that’s why I’ve told you that we should turn this into not an LLC, but it should be a church. Because we have a testimony, we have a ministry, and we want to move forward with something, and because I want to fight against the government, we should 501c3 this thing.
SPEAKER 06 :
And if anybody knows more, let’s call at 303-477-5600. No, no. Keep going about what you’re saying. I mean, that’s true. Like, there’s power, and it’s a business. Church as a whole, the Catholic Church or the UPC organization, it’s a business.
SPEAKER 15 :
Even this whole non-denominational church, like some of the biggest churches in the world, or at least in the United States, are non-denominational churches. And they just say that because they don’t want that Baptist label. They don’t want that Lutheran, Catholic, whatever.
SPEAKER 05 :
Pentecostal, on and on.
SPEAKER 15 :
But it’s still a business. It’s a business. And it’s like a feel-good-come-all type of atmosphere where you just feel welcome. You’re not necessarily labeled, but you can say you went to church and feel good about it. Right. And those churches grow faster than any other church. I’m not trying to slam. I mean, my daughters go to Flatirons Academy, which is Flatirons, a non-denominational church, right? So I’m not bashing it. But they know what they’re doing. They’re making a lot of money.
SPEAKER 06 :
So do you think that also? Do you think church organization is a business as a whole, like he’s saying?
SPEAKER 05 :
They run exactly the same as a business. Yeah, man. We go back to 530 A.D. with Constantinian, what was it, the religio-political movement. where they tied up all of religion and politics into one. And it’s still that way today, only been mastered, only been bettered. And, yeah, it’s unfortunate, man, because there’s too many people that get caught up in a trap that they think is a righteous path to Jesus. The beautiful thing about the word and about God is that he understands that we were going to be tested by all these things and that there is a deceiver. So I still think that all things come together for good for those who love the Lord and are called according to his purpose. He knows the heart of every man. So even if you’re trapped, even if somebody is trapped in a Latter-day Saints type thing, not to bash those guys, but they’re crazy. I have Mormon friends, man, so I can say that stuff.
SPEAKER 06 :
But you guys are talking about things that I’ve always wondered, like… Like, church in a whole, is it an actual business? And if you think about church, it’s all about words. Like, they’re trying to move you in a direction, and that’s probably every religion, right?
SPEAKER 15 :
Even the UTC has a parent company and a holding company, and it all goes uphill, right? I mean, it’s all structured the exact same way as any typical corporation would be.
SPEAKER 06 :
So here’s another thing.
SPEAKER 15 :
The only difference is you’re not trading hours for dollars. You’re taking tithes. But at the same time, you’re still expanding. You’re still scaling. You’re still trying to get more members, which are customers. It’s just business philosophy.
SPEAKER 05 :
And that’s what I was thinking. That’s why I still say we should turn this thing into a church, Brock, because I thought either A, it should be a 501c3 nonprofit organization or it should be a church, but I think a church moreover because we are men of God. We do have a heart after helping people. If we get in a position financially speaking, we’re already helping people with the money we have, but if we make more money and if we’re keeping more money because it’s a donation,
SPEAKER 15 :
It’s funny that you mention that because I was thinking about weaponized church.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, because what I keep thinking about is since we’re trying to write a book, and is it more powerful to write a book or just us, you know, voicing our opinion, going out, advertising our company, getting sponsored? Because, I mean, a book’s going to last forever. A book is good. But so is an audio.
SPEAKER 15 :
The good thing about a book is it’s… you could give away like a downloadable version for free, which can then, and I’m sure Heath knows all about this. Like you get a splash page and you know, give us your name and your email for a free ebook. Ah, right. So that’s like your entry into the next offer into the next offer. Yes. So then if you want to sell another product or service after your free book, so you’re getting your message out there, they read it, they like it. Now they’re following, you know, they want to hear more.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, drug dealers were doing this from the beginning, man. They give you a little taste. Free sample, yeah. And then they lock you in. Yep. Ooh, that was good.
SPEAKER 15 :
I want some of that.
SPEAKER 06 :
I mean, because, I mean, if you look at the Bible, it’s what stood the test of times. You know what I’m saying? And that’s written down. I understand that, like you guys were saying, there’s religions across the globe and everybody’s trying to interpret what the Bible says. And if that’s the case, how do we know what people are saying to us are the right things?
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, you know, because because the Bible moves a person whenever they’re talking conviction and accountability and things like that and just discernment.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, and it isn’t even about feeling. It’s scriptural, and it states that no interpretation of Scripture has ever been decided by men, but holy men of God through the Holy Spirit. My goodness. So it’s not…
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, even look at the translation to King James, right? I mean, how much of the original Arabic was actually missed out in some of the actual, like, context of what Jesus and the disciples were saying in a completely different language. Translation by, what was it, Henry VIII that translated it? Or he turned it from Arabic to English, I believe. Aramaic. And then Arabic. Yeah. And then from there, you got, like, the King James version. And, I mean, how many times was the original text, like, taken out of context? Right.
SPEAKER 06 :
And people, listen, we’re going to go to break, and then this is really good. We’ll come back on the other side. Call us at 303-477-5600. I promise we’ll get to your call. Just be patient with us.
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I don’t expect you to understand I just hope I can explain What it’s like to be a man It’s a lonely road And they don’t care about what you know
SPEAKER 12 :
it’s not about how you feel but what you provide inside that home being a man is what you make it you can’t always live up to expectations you try to please everybody while you struggle
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That racism is still alive in American society and much more widespread than we realize. We must see racism for what it is. It is a myth of the superior and the inferior race. It is the false and tragic notion that one particular group, one particular race is responsible for all of the progress, all of the insights and the total flow of history. And the theory that another group or another race is totally depraved innately impure and innately inferior. In the final analysis,
SPEAKER 06 :
racism is evil because this its ultimate logic is genocide how’s everybody doing today this is the second half of koz 560 am um we’ve got joe at weaponized nation and we got the actor of colorado heath with us and we were talking about the first amendment that was adopted in 1791 and um freedom of speech and it just as we were in the break i thought about it like Hitler was able to move a whole nation because of what he said. So I think I think words is probably some of those powerful things on the planet, you know, because the way I listen, people, the way I believe is that you can speak into your future. There was a reason why people named their kids certain names back in the day. I don’t see anybody running around calling their kid Lucifer, you know. But because there’s blessings that are tied to it, at least I believe, I think. I don’t know if it’s still like that today.
SPEAKER 15 :
I don’t know if you guys are familiar with NLP, like Neural Language Programming.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 15 :
Basically bending people to your will by what you say, how you say it, guided conversations, navigating people to a certain idea where it’s your – agenda but then they think it’s their idea oh my god um so it’s all it’s like strategic seduction so basically it’s manipulation at its finest yeah you’re literally just using your words to manipulate people to bend to your will
SPEAKER 06 :
Think of how powerful that is. You know, it’s crazy. I had read this article the other day, and this goat was walking next to a leopard, and the goat was like, hey, the grass is blue, and the leopard was like, no, dude, the grass is green. And so they kept arguing about it, and he was like, hey, let’s go to the king of the jungle and ask him. They came to the king of the jungle, and the goat was like, hey, what color is the grass? And he said, I think it’s blue. And the king of the jungle was like, you know, the lion was like, yeah, you’re right, it’s blue. And then he walked off and the leopard was like, why’d you say that? He said, because you shouldn’t waste good words on a fool. They’re going to believe whatever they want to believe. And that’s true.
SPEAKER 07 :
You can manipulate a person to believe whatever you want them to believe.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, you cast pearls before swine. It does no good to try and change the mind of a fool.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, that’s the same as people letting their opinions form their facts. Like when you can literally show them proof and they still don’t believe you. Yeah.
SPEAKER 06 :
Like you take the flat earther theory. I mean, there’s people out there that they’re diehard believes in certain things because that’s what they’ve been taught. The earth isn’t flat? Hey.
SPEAKER 05 :
How’d you get in here?
SPEAKER 06 :
That’s what I’m talking about. But, I mean, you see what I’m saying? Words are powerful. And I think that’s the reason back to the whole church thing as an organization. I think they fill up churches because words are so powerful.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, you can use them to build people up or to tear them down. You can use them for manipulation or selfish gain.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, it’s also… If we’re here and there’s nothing beyond us, it kind of makes us small, right? Like, what’s really the point of life if, like, this is it? Like, we live this life, we die, it’s over. I mean, like, what are you really living for? And if you don’t believe in a higher power, then you’re going to not – I mean, a lot of your actions in your life is dictated based off your beliefs, whether you believe in God, whether you don’t believe in God, how you were brought up, nature versus nurture, all these other things. But, I mean, I live my life with a love of God and a fear of God. So I don’t do certain things, even outside of the law. Like I’m more – obviously I’m more about breaking the law, but God’s law too. Right. So if you don’t believe and there’s like more than us – Our world would be in chaos.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, okay, so then that brings the next point. If a person doesn’t believe in the Bible, can they believe in God? You know who the biggest believers of God are?
SPEAKER 15 :
Atheists.
SPEAKER 05 :
How so?
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, how so? I got to hear this, man.
SPEAKER 15 :
They do everything they can to disprove God, and they probably have the most knowledge of God than any Bible thumper. Yeah. Because they want to argue every point that you make with them. So typically atheists know more about God than anyone else does.
SPEAKER 05 :
I have atheist friends, man, because I’m in film, right? But I was riding with Kevin Ward down to Salida, so it was a three-hour drive, and we listened to a debate between Matthew Dillahunty, an atheist, and Jordan Peterson. Sounds familiar. Yeah. And I really like Jordan Peterson, man. This guy is knowledgeable on a lot of things and biblical as well. But I have to say, man, and I even admitted to him, I said, look, your guy won. The atheist won because he was more prepared. It’s like we know you have to study your enemy, right? And so he was more prepared. He did better. But I will say that… My atheist friends that I do know, they have said that since they don’t believe in an afterlife, they believe that this life is the one that they have to do the best at. They have to give the best. So it doesn’t necessarily mean that somebody who is lacking God is lacking morality or lacking empathy.
SPEAKER 06 :
No, no, and that’s funny you guys mention that because I think about what Elon Musk, and I know I mentioned Elon Musk. No, no, no, I don’t think he’s an atheist. He’s an alien.
SPEAKER 05 :
I don’t know what he believes. Everybody agrees with that.
SPEAKER 06 :
But what he does believe is kind of like what you were saying. If this is all that we have to look for, then that means we’re just a single entity, a single candle, a single flame in this vast universe.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right.
SPEAKER 06 :
So, yeah, to be extinguished. And so if that’s the case, then life has to be the most precious thing. And our words have to be the most precious thing we hold on to because that’s what’s going to carry the next generation, I guess. Think about, like, morality.
SPEAKER 15 :
I mean, if you’re not afraid of, like, God’s judgment.
SPEAKER 06 :
And if anybody knows more than us, call us at 303-477-5600.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, I mean, if you’re not afraid of, like, being judged at the pearly gates, I mean, imagine the crime rate.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right.
SPEAKER 15 :
You know, because a lot of people…
SPEAKER 06 :
don’t break the law not just because of law just out of fear of going to hell right so you know what he brings up a good point because i’ve thought about this also if a man is on death row or a woman’s on death row do you think they actually apologize do you actually think when they know they’ve committed that crime they they’ve either hurt a family they’ve done something egregious do you think their first and last words are i’m sorry
SPEAKER 15 :
i mean i can secure their conscience if they do ask for forgiveness and accept god then yeah they’re forgiven do you think god will actually forgive them in my opinion yes what do you say if it’s sincere i mean it can’t be like right before they’re about to get zapped hey god my bad bro like we did right but like if there’s some fear and they mean it you know and that they i think that anybody can be forgiven
SPEAKER 05 :
What do you say to that? I mean, I know that God knows the heart of every man. And I know that when we do.
SPEAKER 15 :
That’s the truth. That’s the truth. Because God knows your heart.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 15 :
If you’re sincere.
SPEAKER 05 :
Back to the sincerity, Joe. Yeah. But I do believe that, you know, anybody can be saved. What is it? John 316 for God so loved the world. He gave his only begotten son that whosoever should believe within him should not perish, but have everlasting life. So all one has to do is believe.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, there’s also context in the Bible that’s talking about how God will turn his back on people too, though. So that person on death row has had God turn his back on him. Because, I mean, the Bible talks about how God will chew him up and spit him out.
SPEAKER 05 :
Because I wonder about that. That’s the lukewarm will be spewed out. Yeah, the lukewarm. We’re probably all lukewarm.
SPEAKER 06 :
I was going to say, what person on the planet has never been lukewarm? Call us at 303-477-5600. This is a good topic. I mean, you guys are bringing up a good point. He knows your heart.
SPEAKER 05 :
He totally does.
SPEAKER 06 :
But, I mean, that person on death row who’s saying, I’m sorry, are they just doing it for themselves then at that point to give themselves a clean conscience?
SPEAKER 05 :
Vanity of vanities. Everything is vanity, man. We’re all vain in our self-serving.
SPEAKER 15 :
The thing that I always think of is if you let’s say you’re a murderer and you go out tonight and you kidnap someone and you you execute him. And before you go to bed, you ask God for forgiveness and you repent of your sins and all is forgiven. You wake up and you go and do the same thing the next day. I don’t think that. I don’t, in my opinion, I don’t think that you can live like that knowing that you’re going to go out and break the law or sin on that level every single day and just take God’s grace and God’s mercy for granted.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, yeah, I mean, that does fly in the face of the Holy Spirit, and it grieves the Holy Spirit when we do those things. But we’d also be liars if we say that we haven’t all sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. And that’s why I love Jesus’ message where he says that, you know, even if you look upon your brother with hate in your heart, you’ve committed a sin. You’ve committed the act of murder. So I’m a murderer. I’ve hated people. I’ve looked at them. I’ve hated them for cutting me off in traffic. Oh, yeah. Don’t get me started on traffic. But no, no, no, you’re talking about something a lot of people— So I might not be in prison for murder, but in God’s eyes, I have murdered.
SPEAKER 06 :
Because you’re bringing up a good point. If you’re standing in line, let’s say you can’t stand this person you work with, you guys are going, you show up at the restaurant, they’re there with their family, and in your mind you’re thinking, I can’t stand this sucker right here. Like, this dude needs to get out the restaurant. What’s the difference in that versus just walking up to the person and saying, I can’t stand you anyway? Yeah. I mean, you see what I’m saying?
SPEAKER 15 :
We all have those thoughts, but I think as long as the thought doesn’t go from, like, a thought to action.
SPEAKER 06 :
And I agree with that.
SPEAKER 05 :
It drops down into the heart. Yeah, it goes into the heart. And becomes a belief and an idea and stuff like that. But, I mean, God’s talking about our eyes, man. When you look upon a woman with lust in your heart, that you’ve committed the sin of adultery. And all, again, like, what is it? If you’ve failed in one law… Or if you’ve kept the whole law but failed in one, you failed in all. So whether or not I even do fail, like by committing murder or adultery or dishonor my mother and father, anything like that, I’m still just as bad as the guy in prison, man, in God’s eyes.
SPEAKER 15 :
Wow, that’s deep. All of that is why it was so important for Jesus to do what he did, to die for all of our sins. Because if we were still living in the Old Testament God’s law, we’re all screwed. There’s not one person that would make it.
SPEAKER 06 :
Again, people call us at… We’d be washed away with the flood. Again, people call us at 303-477-5600. We’d like to hear your input on it. We had Truth call us earlier. No, because words are powerful, like… I mean, so this is a question I want to ask you guys to go into the rest part of the show. The Bible says in the beginning God created the heaven and earth. Our pastor believed that when he spoke that things are still being created today. Do you guys believe that? Do you believe his words are so powerful that the universe is still just created?
SPEAKER 05 :
I’ve got evidence that things are still being created today.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay, don’t tell us like Andre said, he got inducted.
SPEAKER 15 :
He just finished the earth being fully round. Last week.
SPEAKER 05 :
It’s fully round now, people. It was flat, and now it’s round.
SPEAKER 06 :
Let’s hear your evidence on this.
SPEAKER 05 :
The evidence is like everything that we do as human beings in creating. So like one of the simplest, one of the most evident is when you have a child. When you have a child and you’re creating, aren’t you?
SPEAKER 06 :
So let me ask you this.
SPEAKER 05 :
Creation is still happening. Birth is always a miracle.
SPEAKER 06 :
But do you have to speak it? Like, let’s say you’re about to start a new venture, a new business. Do you first have to say, I’m going to start that business? Like, hear yourself say it versus just telling yourself in your mind to do it. Because I think there’s more power when you speak it out, right?
SPEAKER 15 :
I mean, I think it’s reciprocal. I mean, I don’t think you take any action without first thinking about it. You don’t just do something without thinking about it. So even speaking it. I mean, actions speak louder than words, so is the action itself actually speaking it? Oh, my God.
SPEAKER 07 :
That is, dude, he’s going to cause our listeners to think about that all week.
SPEAKER 06 :
No, because now I’m going to think about that all week. Is the action actually speaking it?
SPEAKER 05 :
Right.
SPEAKER 06 :
Is that step number one?
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, if one moves in action before they ever spoke it, then they are.
SPEAKER 06 :
Because would God have created everything if he didn’t speak it? Is that action?
SPEAKER 05 :
Like what you’re saying.
SPEAKER 06 :
You’re taking us all the way back to the beginning. I mean, seriously.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, maybe it was a show, an example for us to follow that there is power in word.
SPEAKER 15 :
In the spoken word.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah. Yeah. Now, somebody who doesn’t have a voice, can they still speak? Yeah, absolutely. They can text. They can type. They can sign. Morse code. Morse code. They can… There’s a lot of things, right? Handwritten.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, communication is also… non-verbal, right? Like body language. Like nodding your head, shaking your head. There’s a lot of different forms of communication.
SPEAKER 05 :
Absolutely. More is caught than taught. That’s what Dave Ramsey says for like kids. Because they watch you. They watch what you do rather than what you say to do.
SPEAKER 06 :
When you go all the way back to like the first people, I mean, language has to be probably… I mean, because look at Tower of Babel. God changed everybody’s language. So language has to be at the top of the food chain for like… Because you’re never going to get those people to try to build that tower wherever it was built without somebody motivating them to do it.
SPEAKER 15 :
Tower of Babylon.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, because he changed everybody’s language at that time.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 06 :
You know, so, God, man, so language has to be, when you speak something to somebody, you can dictate, like, what direction they go. That’s why I’d want to bring… Hold on, let me ask you this. As an employer, you guys both have your business. Do you guys, how do you talk to your employees? Do you ever come down on them like, hey, man, that’s the stupidest thing you could have ever done? Or do you ever just like, hey, man, good job, like, and do you feel like you get more honey from the beehive when you’re sitting there?
SPEAKER 15 :
You want to go, Joe? I… I mean, there’s been two or three times in my 20 years of being an entrepreneur that I kind of went off on someone because the guy was stupid. I told him not to get on these blinds and he got on them. Then I told him to get off. And then within 30 seconds, he got on them again. And there were plantation shutters, expensive. And he broke them, obviously. And I was like, man, are you stupid? Did you tell him like that? Yeah. And the customer was there, too. I mean, I didn’t feel bad about it because it was so stupid. I’m like, you got to be the dumbest person I’ve ever seen. So, I mean, obviously, I had to fire him. But he was, like, crying and everything. I’m like, man, you’re not cut out for construction. Like, you need to find a hobby. But typically in business… One of the reasons I started being a business owner is respect. I didn’t like my bosses being condescending, talking down to me, just trying to cut off my head to feel taller in front of people and feel good about themselves. I always said, when I’m a boss, I’m going to treat people how I want to be treated, like the golden rule. If you raise your voice in me, I’m going to meet that. If you try to get in my face, I’m going to meet that. But if you’re cool with me, I’m cool with you. I don’t dictate. I’m not a bossy person. I’m very mellow. And I get a lot of action out of people for that because they feel heard. They feel respected. And they treat me with respect, and I give them respect. But I’m the first to tell you, I can outdo you. If you want to bring it, I’m going to bring it harder. That’s funny.
SPEAKER 05 :
I don’t know, man. I’m kind of a wuss when it comes to being a boss, man. I’ve had a number of employees and contractors and franchisees throughout the 30 years I’ve been doing this. And I just… I have high hopes for people to do a good job, so I leave them – my dad always said this. I give them more than enough rope to hang themselves. And I think I do that too. I give people a lot of leeway, a lot of help, and a lot of times I find myself enabling. And those enabled usually just screw up further and further and further. But there is something to also finding the right person. And when I plug them in, then I get to let them do their best. And I can usually just cheer them on. Hey, great job. Here’s some more work.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah. It’s positive reinforcement.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 15 :
And I mean, I, I treat business like a, I can’t remember where I heard this, but there’s a saying that says slow to hire quick to fire.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 15 :
So you take your time with them in the beginning.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 15 :
But as soon as they give you any kind of inclination that they’re the wrong fit, you got to get rid of them. Cut it. Otherwise it becomes toxic. It starts spreading to other people within your organization and everything just collapses because you’re only as strong as your weakest link. Right. Right. So if you let that guy get out of line and you accept it, it’s only going to get worse. Yeah. Yeah. Man, I might need to take some classes from you, Joe.
SPEAKER 06 :
But I mean, that comes down to, but that all comes back to like freedom of speech, what you can and can’t say. Because like you said, if you’ve got somebody who’s toxic and running their mouth about everybody, always negative, coming in negative. Yeah, they’ll bring the ship down with them. That stuff. Yeah, you’re right. It brings the ship down. It spreads to other people.
SPEAKER 05 :
And why I like hiring people as either contractor or franchisee is because I take away that employee-owned and employer dynamic. So I do get to get away with a lot more where it’s like, hey, man, look, I’ll just stop giving you the work. You haven’t proven yourself to be able to take the work contractor. Right.
SPEAKER 06 :
So basically you’re hitting them where it hurts the money part.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, I do. Because that does. Yeah. And so, you know, and it’s a right to work state. And, I mean, I’m just doing my best. But it really comes down to hiring the right people, man. Slow to hire. Yeah, and you can vet them. You can vet them.
SPEAKER 06 :
Because I always think about, like, People who wake up 24, I guess it goes on to, like, people that are always down, people that are always negative. Because I think the reason suicide is so high, it’s because people are always negative to themselves. Like, they’re always speaking, like, something bad over them. Like, I suck at my job. Exactly.
SPEAKER 15 :
If you loved yourself, it would be impossible to kill yourself. That’s a true statement. Like, I can’t, if I love you, I can’t kill you.
SPEAKER 06 :
No, that’s a very true statement. But I think people don’t understand that, the dynamics and the power, because maybe they came from a home where their mom and dad never built them up, was always like, oh, you’re going to be no good. You’re not going to do this. And I’ve never done a study on this, but I bet if you took a young man from a home that said, hey, you’re going to be a future president, that person’s probably going to thrive and do better than somebody who’s always told you’re a piece of crap.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, you’re getting into like nature versus nurture.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah. But it all ties in together, doesn’t it?
SPEAKER 15 :
Take the topic of racism that, you know, we heard Martin Luther King speak of. Racism is taught. Like that’s learned.
SPEAKER 06 :
Jesus, that is deep.
SPEAKER 15 :
Like that comes from your parents. Yeah. That comes from your surroundings. That comes from your upbringing. I raised my daughters with love. I’m like, you can love anybody that you want. Like we’re all the same. We’re all equal. I have a black stepfather, as you know.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah. um have our church so so let me ask you this so you think racism and then i’ll go to you he’s really just real fast because we’re running out of time you think racism is something that’s taught absolutely what what do you say i agree racism is something well why did you pause
SPEAKER 05 :
Um, I don’t, I don’t know. No, I, I agree. Uh, racism is taught. Hate is taught. Hate is taught. Yeah.
SPEAKER 06 :
And the reason, so I’m going to let you guys kind of like in on like my mom, like I don’t talk about my mom very often, but my mom is black. My dad is white and, and. like like did your mom is black yeah so so the dynamics of like when my dad married a woman who was black it kind of caused like riff in inside our family because i know i was pausing i know i was pausing it’s because um it took me a moment to understand that well obviously uh there’s there’s over and covert
SPEAKER 05 :
What do you mean? For teaching. So sometimes it could be covert. It could be generational, passed down. So people don’t even realize that they’re being taught hatred. They don’t realize they’re being taught racism or bias or anything like that. Or even societal. So it’s pumped into us through society. Even media.
SPEAKER 15 :
Even media. Let’s just talk about Caitlin Clark for a second here. And ESPN, look at your feed on Instagram and look at the stuff that ESPN drops. It’s all clickbait. They make it about black and white. They’re dividing us on the content they’re producing. So subliminally, they’re making us racist. I actually think that people are more racist today than they were in the 60s.
SPEAKER 06 :
Oh, my God.
SPEAKER 15 :
because of how much is sewn into us. We have access to so much information, like on social media. So it’s just, it’s constantly being thrown at us for clickbait and for ratings and for views.
SPEAKER 05 :
Right. And so what, I don’t know if it’s in the Bible, but it’s like careful little eyes, what you see in little ears, what you hear. And that’s about human beings, especially kids who are impressionable to be brought up in a society that is telling them what to think and feel. right and so um so it’s not even the parents the parents themselves might be pseudo racist and that’s nature pseudo racist but it’s outside influences that are coming in and people are just they’re getting all of that yeah and it’s you can’t it’s scary the only way to defend against it is like joe uh with his with his business which is uh covering up with the uh the the to weaponize oneself with like god’s armor Yeah, weaponize yourself with truth and love.
SPEAKER 06 :
Quickly, we have two minutes left. Tell us what Weaponize Nation is about exactly.
SPEAKER 15 :
I talked on it a little bit a couple weeks ago on the show here, but it’s doing daily success habits in your body, your being, which is spirituality, your balance, which is your family, and your business. And there’s protocols every single day. There’s two things in each category that we do, and we kind of gamify it. So you check a number off a list, and you get eight points for the day, 28 points for the week.
SPEAKER 06 :
Because we’re running out. Just tell us how important it is to work out, like your physical part.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, it’s very important to work out. I mean, your body is everything. It’s a catalyst to everything that you do. If you’re 400 pounds and can’t get out of bed, you can’t go to church. You can’t make love to your wife. You can’t hang out and play sports with your kids. So, I mean… You only get one body.
SPEAKER 06 :
Now tell us the spiritual part real quick.
SPEAKER 15 :
That’s the being category. So every single day we just pray, meditate at least five, ten minutes, and you just journal what you felt or what you received, what you heard, your revelations.
SPEAKER 06 :
And everybody, we just want to say it was an excellent show today. Just remember the guys’ perspective. Keep us in your prayers. Keep Weaponized Nation in your prayers. And just know that we’re a guy show. We specifically, you know, focus on guys. And y’all have a good afternoon.
SPEAKER 05 :
God bless. Thank you so much, guys. God bless.
SPEAKER 11 :
I don’t expect you to understand I just hope I can explain What it’s like to be a man It’s a lonely road And they don’t care about what you know It’s not about how you feel But what you provide inside that home
SPEAKER 12 :
Being a man is what you make it, you can’t always live up to expectations You try to please everybody while you struggle so you fake it And end up out of balance compromising situations As a good man, do what he should man Give everything he has and do everything he could man You might find yourself feeling all alone Inside a house you built that you don’t recognize as home
SPEAKER 10 :
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