In this hour of Rush to Reason, John Rush is joined by Steve House for a wide-ranging conversation that connects health, technology, and the future of society.
They begin with the latest developments around the Surgeon General nomination and concerns about pharmaceutical influence, then pivot into a deeper discussion on personal health—covering peptides, preventative care, and why more people are taking control outside traditional systems.
The conversation expands into the bigger picture: artificial intelligence, human longevity, and how innovation could reshape everything from lifespan to mobility. They explore both the promise and the risks—warning against overreliance on AI while recognizing its
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Okay. Happy Thursday, everybody. Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. No Dr. Kelly today. She is out. Actually, she’s hosting Dr. Drew today. So she should be with us next week. I apologize. It’s been a couple of weeks since we’ve had her. And today, I think I explained the other day, she booked… Dr. Drew and not that she forgot about us, but the time zone changes and so on, you know, probably in a way did. So that’s fine. She’s doing something that’s very important. And she’s filling in for Dr. Drew, which is he’s got a great TV show. So she’s filling in for Dr. Drew. Steve’s supposed to be joining us. Charlie’s doing his best to get a hold of him right now. Let’s do this question of the day. Well, Charlie’s getting that set up. What 20th century policy caused widespread famine under Mao? That was yesterday’s impossible question. It’s the Great Leap. The Great Leap. So today’s impossible question is who wrote Leviathan? Who wrote Leviathan? Now, I’ll give you guys all a little hint on some of these. I have foggiest ideas. I play trivia near where I live. We do that on Wednesday nights. My wife and I and another couple, our best friends, we have a lot of fun. It’s a great time. And I will tell you right now that these types of questions, you know, who wrote this, who did that, what famous artist did this, that, and the other, I stink at. I am absolutely awful at those types of questions. I dread them when they come up because, honestly, I don’t have the foggiest idea on some of those. And we had a couple of those in last night’s trivia. And when those come up, I’m just awful. I really am awful. So, okay, until we get Steve going here. I don’t know this story. This is just coming up on my Facebook feed. And this is coming from a David J. Harris Jr., who I don’t know, don’t follow, just sort of came up as breaking news on my feed. And I don’t know, again, I don’t know if this is true or not. A J.P. Morgan executive allegedly used her power to sexually harass, abuse, drug, racially abuse, and threaten the career of a junior male employee. She is accused of turning the male broker into a sex slave. Now, I’m not laughing at the story, but really? I mean, really? I’m not saying I don’t believe this, but I kind of don’t believe this. I mean, and I’m looking at the picture of this gal, and she’s a fairly attractive lady. I don’t know how old she is. And again, I don’t know if this story is true or not, but as I read this, I really am thinking to myself, Really? I mean, who is this guy? And does he not have any kind of a backbone? He can’t stand up for himself? Guys, when I see stories like that and read stories like that, I’m absolutely dumbfounded because I just am. If Dan were here, when he and I were co-hosting together, this is before COVID, of course. Some of you that are listening now don’t remember Dan, but If he were here with me, we would be having a field day with this one. Let’s just say that. We’d be having a field day because this one, to me, I cannot, literally, I cannot wrap my head around it. So it makes no sense to me whatsoever. And Charlie, Steve said, he texted, he said, call him now and we’ll get him up and rolling here. Let’s do this. Let’s take a quick break. Good timing here. We’ll take a break. We’ll come back, give Steve a longer segment that way. Dr. Scott coming up next, by the way. And if you’re looking to live your best life possible, talk to Scott today. Give him a call directly, 303-663-6990.
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Okay, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Steve House joining me now. Steve, welcome. How are you, sir? Hey, sorry I was late. I’m good. You are fine. Not a problem. We got question of the day handled. Got things rolling as well. So we are rocking and rolling. Okay, where do you want to start today? What’s first topic for you today?
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Well, since she’s not with us, I thought it was interesting that today was the day that, you know, Callie Means or Casey Means withdrew for the Surgeon General role and being approved by the Surgeon General role. So we now have another one. We should have recommended Kelly to begin with and gotten her over with. It would have been great.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, and Charlie sent me that article a little bit earlier. I did not get a chance to dig into that. So where do we go from here on this one then?
SPEAKER 09 :
You know, what’s interesting about it is that their biggest – sort of criticisms of Dr. Means were, number one, she didn’t have a lot of experience as a doctor, but, you know, we all knew that. But the other one was that her stance on vaccines. If you can’t get someone approved to the Surgeon General’s role who has a sort of a cautious to negative view of the way we manage vaccines, what are we doing? Yeah, you’re not going to hear that. We know that, yeah, I know we know the safety problem. We will get somebody, but the issue is we already know that there’s big safety issues with those vaccines, all of them at some level of Most of them have never been safety-proofed. So, you know, all of a sudden it says, okay, if you don’t believe what establishment pharma believes, you can’t be the Surgeon General, and that’s just really not good for America.
SPEAKER 08 :
No, because what that says is, as you know, Steve, what that’s really saying is big pharma still controls everything at the end of the day.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yep. It tells you they do control things at the end of the day. I mean, if the Senate won’t approve a candidate based on the fact that they’re cautious to negative regarding the way vaccines are distributed in this country… We’re going to be stuck with vaccines, at least our kids are, and bad advice, critically bad advice based on what we’ve seen, just because politically the pharma companies pay so much money for lobbying and for getting people elected.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, and which also tells you, and I’m not telling you anything you don’t know, that tells you who the Senate is beholden to, by the way. It does. Which that’s unfortunate as well.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, I mean, it’s… That’s part of the, you know, the other topic we were talking about is I suggested that we have a conversation about, you know, is there an American revolution on the horizon? Well, you know, I mean, if there is an American revolution on the horizon, so much of it is tied to the fact that, you know, the corruption, I mean, you know, we’re hearing reports even today that, you know, people coming out of Kenya, Kenya is kind of a staging area. I’ve been to Kenya a few times. Staging area to bring in people to the United States. through illegal means or legal means, but mostly illegal means. They stage them there and they explain to them while they’re there how to do a billing scam on daycares. And so they know the source of the learning is all the way over there. Before they ever come to America, they’re taught how to do this. Six months into it, they’re driving Mercedes because they made so much cash on the scams. That’s what Americans are tired of, is they’re tired of the fact that We now know this, and we’ve known what’s going on in Minnesota. We know what our taxes are being done for with, you know, the annual Festivus report, if you will, from Rand Paul and his dad, Ron. I mean, we see the crap that Doge found, and nothing’s happening. So how will there not be an American Revolution at some point?
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, and by the way, great question. It’s a great way to start things off today. I mean… I don’t know. I mean, when you say revolution, and I get it, that can mean all sorts of different things, and I think there’s already starting to be some pushback in a lot of areas, and there’s a huge divide, as you know, Steve, from the left versus the right. I talked about this yesterday just a little bit during health and wellness, and I don’t have any data to back this up, but I feel like, and you and I have talked about peptide use in the past. I’ve got Dr. Scott, who’s with us on a routine basis and one of our great sponsors and feels the same way about peptides that you and I do, that it’s a really great – way to keep yourself healthy, have a longer life, all sorts of things that are huge benefits there. And yet there are a lot of folks I feel on the left, and my comment yesterday was, I think if you were to look at politics of the users of peptides, not saying that all folks using peptides are from the right and nobody from the left does, but I think by and large you’re going to find more people you know, libertarian minded slash conservatives using peptides than those that are on the other side until you get to the upper echelon of the left. And then they understand the realities of. And by the way, they even understand what Big Pharma is doing. They just haven’t bought into it. They probably bought stock, but they haven’t bought into Big Pharma and they’re all for Big Pharma. But yet they’re ones that aren’t using Big Pharma, Steve, because they understand the repercussions of. But the average person on the left, I don’t think, understands that. you know, where peptides come from, how they’re being used, the advantages of and so on, because they believe so much in the establishment health care, they’re not going to draw outside the lines. Am I wrong in that?
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No, you’re not wrong at all. I mean, you know, if you really like did a flow chart on your wall and said, so let’s work our way to drugs from a baby who’s healthy to start. I mean, what ends up happening is, is we know our food is toxic. I mean, there’s so much evidence that You know, with the growth of chronic diseases, our food is toxic. So, you know, we have toxic food. People get sick. They ended up needing drugs like metformin for diabetes and all these other things. And then the argument is, well, the pharma companies aren’t bad. They’re creating medications that are saving people’s lives. Well, they are in a context where you’re not doing anything about what’s causing the problem. Right. So you’re allowing and promoting.
SPEAKER 08 :
They’re providing a solution to a problem in a lot of ways. Not they necessarily, but I could say indirectly, Steve, they’ve created.
SPEAKER 09 :
They have, and then you have the Monsantos of the world who are creating non-organic type structures that are also toxic to our systems. But we talked about, you know, take medication commercials off TV, right, because we’re the only place in the world. Well, if you’re going to do that, you should take breakfast cereal commercials off, too, because breakfast cereal is a really bad thing. I mean, for the most part, you know, the sugar and all the other stuff that goes into that stuff, it’s really bad for you. But there’s this vicious loop that says, Do you believe that if someone makes a medication that is anti-inflammatory, for example, and you have inflammation pain, and now you can walk around without pain, is that person bad for making an anti-inflammatory? Well, the answer is no. But what’s really bad is that the medical establishment in this country, which starts with HHS and NIH and CMS and everybody else and even the Surgeon General, The medical establishment has not done virtually anything about preventing the need for drugs.
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True. I just got a great text message in from one of my great friends that just said, the left would take peptides if it was mandated, Steve. Yeah. And by the way, we just lost Steve. We’ll get him back here in a second, though. And by the way, that particular text message, I can’t argue with. And I know Steve would agree with me on that one as well, that if it was mandated that the left had to take those— I can assure you that they would be taking peptides. I want to hear more of what Steve has to say on that. We’ll do our best to try to get him back here. If he doesn’t call back, we’ll get him back on the line. We’ll have Charlie call him directly as well. And he may sound like he had a good connection, so who knows? Sometimes things just happen on the cell network. I’ll make sure that he’s got our number really quick. And I think he’s calling us as we speak. So we’ll do our best to get him back on. And you know what? I’m sorry. It’s hard for me to text and type or hard for me to type and talk at the same time. And I’ll tell Steve just to call us and we’ll go that route as well. And again, folks, what we’re talking about is, and Steve said, just call him back, Charlie, and we’ll get him back online. And again, what really got this conversation started, even on the peptide end of things, is Steve was talking about, you know, are we at a point where there’s, you know, the start of a revolutionary war in America, people pushing back? And I look at the whole, you know, use of peptides and things along those lines as being very much a part of that. These are people that are looking at taking control of their own health care. versus having big pharma, big health control their health care instead. And that’s where a lot of concierge doctors like Dr. Scott come into play, whereby people are paying for their health care outside of the normal health care channels. And typically speaking, you’re going to get better care. I talked about that during health and wellness yesterday with the doctor that we had on yesterday. So, yeah, and Steve, welcome back. A lot of this stuff I was just mentioning a moment ago to our audience that – You know, even just peptide use, taking care of your own health, in a way, is a part of this, I guess you could say, war on America, whereby one side doesn’t want you doing that. And you didn’t hear this, but I had a great friend just text in a moment ago that said, yeah, the left would take peptides if it was mandated. And you know what? They’re not wrong.
SPEAKER 09 :
That’s absolutely right. I mean, I don’t—in fact— You know, there’s plenty of people on the left who are, you know, very fit people who are looking for the edge that everybody else is. Correct. So it’s probably not all of the left.
SPEAKER 08 :
Oh, no, no, no. Well, but, you know, but hear me out here. I think those that you’re mentioning on the left. are definitely on the left. They definitely vote on the left. They’re all for that. But I also think these are people that intrinsically know what’s going on when it comes to health care. They’re still bought in when it comes to everything on the left and probably even own share of Big Pharma. But yet at the same time, like the head of Big Pharma, knows what they’re doing.
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Yeah. Does that make sense? They do. And yeah, of course. I mean, you know, they’ve probably been setting up strategies to overcome every next or the next objective or objection to, you know, whatever’s coming along on purpose, right? I mean, they’re doing that. And even with peptides, right? I mean, you know, there’s plenty of people had access to peptides. I did BPC-157 myself for shoulder pain, and then all of a sudden it went away. Right. Right. And then you couldn’t get it anymore. And so you’re going, okay, so what’s their strategy, right? Yeah. Well, they want to somehow leverage it or they want time to come up with their own solutions or, you know, the conspiracies today say, well, they’re implanting COVID vaccines and mRNA vaccines inside of peptides and then they’ll approve them and everybody will get the vaccine regardless or get the mRNA regardless. Who knows? What we do know is the delay in approving them is not a healthy delay.
SPEAKER 08 :
No, and I think this is where, you know, and I’ve even heard some folks from the left say things like, well, all these people taking peptides, they have no idea, you know, 20 years down the road what the ramifications are going to be and this, that, and the other. And by the way, Steve, these are the same individuals, exact same individuals that took an mRNA vaccine that had no proof that it would work and had no testing behind it either.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, yeah, not only did they do it, but they gave it to their children, none of which ever died of COVID. Good point. And the vaccine doesn’t prevent transmission or getting it. So you’re right. But the thing about peptides is the problem with peptides is that they’re much like bioidentical hormones. I mean, they mostly come from organic sources that are already in you. So the biggest issue with any drug in your reaction to a vaccine, all the aluminum and mercury that goes in vaccines,
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is that you’re putting something in your body that it is not used to doesn’t like doesn’t isn’t naturally found there peptides is a different deal right completely it really is yeah no they are they are 100 the opposite of and for those of you listening that don’t know what we’re talking about i encourage you and and there are this is where ai we’re going to talk a little bit about that as you know steve and i are on today with each other but you know Just go to any of the AI platforms. And the top platforms right now, of course, are ChatGPT, Claude, Gemini, Gronk, and I might throw one more in there. But those are the top ones right now, Steve, that are out there. And for any of you listening that want to learn more about peptides, I will tell you straight up. This is an area where AI is actually very strong, and I feel, Steve, very unbiased. I don’t think they put much of a spin. I’ve done some research on this on the AI sides of things, and I don’t think AI puts much of a negative spin on it whatsoever. In fact, if I didn’t know any better, I would say AI is for it.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah. I mean, you can train AI in any way you want, but typically it’s going to take the facts, and the facts are, you know, find me – side effects, find me deaths, find me serious problems from peptides, and you’re not going to find it. You’re not going to find much at all. That’s right.
SPEAKER 08 :
They’re not there.
SPEAKER 09 :
So, you know, when AI goes out and looks for the quality of a product or the opinion of someone on the product, they’re looking for reviews and exceptions and, you know, side effects. It’s just, you’re not going to find it on peptides. You can come back and argue, well, there’s not that many people have used them, but the number is growing at a radical basis. And frankly… If you were taking samorilin or something in that category as opposed to an anabolic steroid, you know which one of those two is going to win. Right. That’s right. I mean, whether samorilin gives you the growth you get in this anabolic steroid, it probably does not. but it doesn’t give you cancer and all the other things that go with an anabolic.
SPEAKER 08 :
That’s right. And for those of you listening, again, that’s another one. Sumoralin, tesamoralin, there’s several different blends of that particular peptide, and they all kind of do a different thing. But for those of you, and this is, again, Dr. Scott really understands this thoroughly. Any of you that are looking to, A, lose weight, build muscle, get rid of belly fat, and so on, talk to Dr. Scott. He can walk you through these peptides and the different uses of, and to your point, Steve, diabetics, Do they work? Yeah. I’m living proof. Yes, they work. Absolutely.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah. I mean, they’re sort of, if you really think about it, what has to be happening, and I haven’t gone this deep yet, but what has to be happening is you’re taking an organic substance that turns on, it’s like a key to turn on different things in your proteins, et cetera, that help either healing or they help growth and all those things. Most of those things that have been turned off were turned off by age and and toxic substances in your body from food and other medications. So peptides is sort of a natural way of turning on the healthy part of your body. Good point. So that it can actually go forward. It’s no different in some ways than ivermectin and fenbendazole. You’re getting rid of something bad rather than trying to create something new.
SPEAKER 08 :
And or, like with the case of NAD, where your body automatically, as you age, starts producing less of something, adding that peptide back in just boosts that end of things that as we age naturally occurs. And I was going to share this with you because Dr. Scott was talking about this. He’s going to highlight this next Wednesday when he hosts. And that is he went to a conference here not long ago where there were certain doctors and slides and things there where they were talking about how if by age 50— You really start on a regimen of eating right, eating organically like you just talked about a moment ago, getting a peptide regimen and exercising and so on. And I’m not joking, Steve. This is the number. If you start doing that at age 50. you could see a lifespan of 120. And even somebody our age, if you start doing it at our age in your early 60s, you easily could see 110. And frankly, Steve, I don’t know that I can disagree with that because I feel as good today as I did when I was 40. And that was 20 years ago.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, I mean, clearly you can, the lifespan can be a lot longer. I mean, it’s, five and six years longer just in some other countries in the world who aren’t doing anything special other than staying away from the, you know, inorganic toxic food regimen that we’re on here in this country. You know, 120, I mean, people worry, well, you know, I could be 120, but my brain would be gone. Well, no, it wouldn’t. Not if you do things correctly. If you treat your body well, yeah, your brain’s going to be there.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, and here’s the reality. Here’s what’s starting to happen. Even the, and this shows you that this isn’t far off from, well, this shows you this is reality. Even folks in the life insurance end of things and the actuaries, Steve, are now starting to change for individuals that are doing the very things you and I are talking about. When you get the insurance world, changing things life insurance-wise and the actuaries of because of what you and I are talking about, that means it’s real.
SPEAKER 09 :
It does. And think about what they went through during the COVID vaccine process. Good point. I mean, all-cause mortality went through the roof. Well, who loses? Well, the person who dies, but also the life insurance company because their actuarial said that, you know, John Rush was going to live another 15 years, and he died because he took an mRNA vaccine, the second one, and it made him sick and killed him. I mean, that was a horrible, horrible environment. The life insurance industry itself and the health insurance industry, if we’re not going to the generic, ridiculous stuff we did in Obamacare would drive behavior change. Right. You’re right. But, you know, right now they’re not.
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We are back. Steve House with us. And I got a text message, Steve, that said, I saw President Trump sign an executive order, I believe, placing Dr. Nicole Sapphire as a surgeon general. Could we talk about that? She’s from Fox News, a radiologist, not impressed with her. That’s what was texted in. Now, I’ve not seen that, so I cannot verify that. And you can’t just executive order a surgeon general in, or can you, Steve? To my knowledge, that has to go through the Senate, right?
SPEAKER 09 :
Right. In this case, what he did was he nominated Nicole to be the Surgeon General. So she still has to go through this. That’s what I thought. Yeah.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah. You cannot executive order somebody into a particular position along those lines. No more than you could executive order a Supreme Court justice in. Right, Steve?
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, and imagine how much easier government would operate if you could executive order anybody you wanted. That would be very interesting.
SPEAKER 08 :
Somebody just said, do we really want to live to 120? If so, why not 250? Well, truthfully for me, I think my answer is yes, I would want to live to 120, and if I could live to 250, I would do that as well. I mean, Steve, maybe I’m wrong in this, and you tell me, check me, but if you’re a sane human being… the will of every human is to live, not die. Or am I wrong, Steve?
SPEAKER 09 :
No, you’re absolutely right. The human body, I mean, there is parts of life. I mean, we’ve studied this or written about things like menopause, right? And so there’s a part of menopause where, you know, the body says you can no longer produce children, so we should get rid of you. And internally, there’s some things happening. That’s why women struggle so much. It’s so difficult. I mean, I feel very fortunate to be a man when I read and understand those processes. But generally speaking… your body tries to keep itself going, period. It wants to live. Now, 125, 250 years, it all depends on what your condition is, right? If you’re in a decent condition, you can still move around, walk, enjoy things. I mean, think of the storyteller you’d be if you were 150 or 175 years of age. If somebody were 200 years of age today, you go back 200 years, you’re talking about 1826, Right? 1826, this was prior to Abraham Lincoln.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, and I don’t want to get, you know, spiritual and all biblical on everybody, but, you know, the way things worked way back in the day before the flood is people lived to 700, 800, even 900 years, and they were literally passing down the information, the stories, Steve, that you just said, keeping each other in check on those stories and making sure they were accurate. That’s how things were passed down from generation to generation at that time, and yeah, they lived to be that old at that time.
SPEAKER 09 :
Well, you remember back a few years ago, it was probably actually in the 80s, Bill Bennett wrote a book called The Book of Virtues. And The Book of Virtues was nothing but the stories you’re talking about. And what you were supposed to do was read to your children so that they could learn from the virtue involved with Horatio goes over the bridge, or courage and different things. And these were stories passed from generation and generation and generation ago. He wrote them down because we stopped living long enough to pass along those virtues, but that had a lot to do with culture and societal morality and things like that.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right. No, and again, I look at things maybe a little bit different than others, but Steve, I love life. I like living life, and I don’t plan on really slowing down, and I’m going to continue to do the things that I do, and Yeah. I mean, if I can live to be 120, will I? Absolutely, I will. Yeah. And again, we’re going to dovetail into this. The great innovations that are coming down the pike, could it allow some of us to do that? I believe wholeheartedly it could, Steve.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, and especially as you start to embrace what could go on in space, right? I mean, because once you go to weightlessness, you take pressure off your joints. I mean, we could have an advanced aged population that existed somewhere in space with a lower gravity, less intense, less friction-based environment. So if your brain’s still working and your body’s getting a little bit aged, In space, you might live, you know, an extra 50 years just because you don’t have the friction around you.
SPEAKER 08 :
Good point. Hadn’t thought about that side of things.
SPEAKER 09 :
And again, you know, think about innovation here, right? So, you know, we turn 75 years of age and decide that we want to enter a sprint race. And we put on an echo skeleton where an echo skeleton, basically, you can sprint as fast as you need to sprint. I mean, there’s some limitations, but You know, once you get to the point where you go to echo skeletons who are helping you move around, it can exercise your muscles and your joints, and yet it doesn’t require you to have the great lung capacity to do it. So that’s an innovation coming that will help people move in ways they never dreamed of.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, including, to the point, Steve, as you know, quadriplegic, paraplegic individuals, you can put an exoskeleton on them, and as long as they’ve got the ability to teach the skeleton, per se, how to move, what to do, and so on, yeah, their life changes immensely.
SPEAKER 09 :
While we’re putting chips in people’s brains, Elon Musk has got these neuro devices that help people move by thinking, so now do that plus an exoskeleton, and while… getting out of a wheelchair and walking, and I can’t say that I know what this would be like because I’ve never been there, but I’m assuming that if you were mobile when you prior to that were not mobile, even if you couldn’t feel yourself taking the steps, What your brain would absorb would be things that you could see and experience that you can’t do any other way. And so, I mean, the quality of life would have to go up significantly if that were the case.
SPEAKER 08 :
Oh, Steve, it would. I mean, we as a family have a friend that’s, you know, a paraplegic. And, yeah, the reality is the changes that would happen in those particular individuals’ lives, even if for a time per day they had the ability to do that, would be life-changing.
SPEAKER 09 :
100%. It would be life-changing. I mean, for those guys who live 150 years, they might actually see the Cleveland Browns win a Super Bowl. I mean, think about the life-changing aspect of that.
SPEAKER 08 :
You’ve got to throw a little football in there. No, and to your point, the innovations in AI will drive a lot of this, and I get it. It’s a hot topic. Some people are embracing AI. I am one of those, and I know some of my listeners think I’m crazy for doing so. I don’t think so. I look at the time-saving measures, the things that even can happen on the business front and so on, and I just look at AI differently than probably a lot of people do. And do I think it’s ever going to replace somebody like myself, even talent-wise? Well, no. what I look at, Steve, is, okay, if it gets to the point where it can come on air and do what I’m doing, okay, I’ll go do something else. I mean, at the end of the day, I’m one of those, Steve, where I’ll figure out what the next thing is to go do because I’m never going to sit idly by and let something supplant me. I mean, if something comes along that’s that much better, okay, so be it. I’ll find something else to do.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah. I mean, as long as you have that mindset, I mean, my gosh, look at how many people have amazing mindsets even in the most difficult circumstances. I know a doc at um cleveland clinic of all places um who has or cleveland metro who’s been a quadriplegic since the day before he got his attending status he was in a bike accident next day was supposed to be a full-fledged attending and he’s a quad but he’s a doctor and he has children and a wife and he’s you know he’s made the most out of his life add some of the innovation that we’re talking about to their lives and their attitude already i mean it’s like Brian Vaynerchuk being blind and all of a sudden being able to see, it’s not just that they get back to a place that they should have been or were. They go beyond that because their attitude through that process was so good in adapting and overcoming things. Imagine what kind of a human being you’ve got standing in front of you now.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, and we’ve had some things that have been huge for certain individuals, you know, cochlear implants, for example, Steve, and you look at what AI could even do in that end of things, and that’s just one small area. I mean, some of the things that you’re talking about take that little step and just magnify it immensely, whereby some people, their entire lives would be changed. And by the way, the lives of those around them would be changed, right? Oh, yeah, no doubt about it. I mean, let’s not forget that. I mean, we tend to sometimes focus only on that single individual that this would be life-changing for. But the reality is, no, no, no, there’s probably hundreds of people around that one individual that their lives are also changed.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, absolutely, 100%. I mean, there’s so many people like that that inspire us, and if you get inspired, you have this capability to do things that you just never dreamed of. And so people who are more challenged than we are physically or mentally and overcome and adapt, those are the people that inspire us to be better, and we ultimately become better.
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay, the negatives. We know with all positives, yes, there can be some negatives. This is where I feel like we, we conservatives, especially Christian conservatives, should be very involved in AI to A, keep it in check, and B, utilize its resources so we can actually help build up each other in a better way, build a better planet, I guess you could say, Steve, at the end of the day. But with all of that, yes, there can be some negatives. What do you see are some of the negatives?
SPEAKER 09 :
I think if you become too reliant on it and you expect it to live a part of your life for you, I mean, look, this is kind of a gross example, but it’s out there, which is you find young female robots that look extremely attractive. essentially in relationships with young men. I don’t know how far that’s going to go or how far it’s gone, but it’s happening. And you’re like, that’s not a healthy thing. It’s just not a healthy thing. You know, life isn’t about… If you’re in a relationship with a robot and every time you ask a question under stress, you ask for feedback, if you’re always going to get an answer that satisfies you First of all, you’re not going to be resilient. You’re going to lose your ability to be resilient because you’re going to be soft enough that if you don’t get the right answer, you’re just going to melt down, etc. So you can’t lose your resilience because you depend on a system like that. I mean, that’s certainly one of them. I think the other is just, you know, literally lazy. I mean, for Elon Musk to say at some point no one will have to have a job because AI and robots will take care of all of it. Well… I think having a job is a satisfying thing. It gives people a chance to get up in the morning and go do something and become that. I think societies, the Roman Empire was a great example. The Roman Empire failed principally because no one in the empire that wasn’t a slave had to have a job. They didn’t have to have jobs. And they ultimately failed because their morality went down the toilet. I think the same thing would happen here with AI going overboard.
SPEAKER 08 :
You know what? I can’t argue that, and I think that’s where, again, as our side looks at this and navigates through it, yeah, we can’t lose sight of what you just said. I mean, it’s intrinsic for all mankind, male and female both, to have worth in what they do. Now, I know that intrinsically men get their value out of what they accomplish, what they work, the work of their hands, and so on. Women, on the other hand, they get their intrinsic value out of the relationships they build, the home, the kids, and so on. They’re both building things, albeit different things. But at the end of the day, and by the way, this is what the left wants to take away, because we’re all the same, Steve. And the reality is, no, we’re not. We’re not all the same.
SPEAKER 09 :
We are not all the same. Thankfully, we’re not all the same. Yeah, thank God. I don’t think we can be all the same, right? I mean, I think there has to be variations in who we are. Otherwise, life’s not interesting, right? It’s pretty vanilla. I mean, why does it matter when you look out your window if you see beautiful mountains versus you look out your window and you just see a clump of trees because you live on flat land? The answer is because we’re inspired by variation. We’re inspired by changes and things that are going on. And partly it’s why I think our school system struggles so much is because it’s not only is it the same as it was when my dad graduated high school back in about 1952 or 1951, It’s still 13 years. It still looks a lot like the high school then. We haven’t done much to change it, and now we sit people in classrooms for hours and hours and hours. It’s not that interesting.
SPEAKER 08 :
especially when we live in a world where we now have AI at our fingertips the way of and this is something that the Marxist school system by the way I think will hold people back because to your point no it’s not the same shouldn’t be the same our learning methods shouldn’t be the same unfortunately Steve we’ve got teachers unions that will tell you that oh no no this is the way you do it this is the way you learn and no it hasn’t changed well yeah it has actually it’s changed big time yep it has
SPEAKER 09 :
How would you want to change it more? Or don’t you want to change it more?
SPEAKER 08 :
I would want to change it dramatically. I mean, I think our way of doing school today, sending a kid in the classroom for eight hours and going over things repetitiously, number one, frankly, I don’t think that’s been the way it should have been for quite some time now, for decades. We continue to do it because it’s just the way we do it, and it’s completely backwards, Steve. It’s not the way we should do it at all.
SPEAKER 09 :
It doesn’t take into account all of the things we’ve learned, all the innovations we’ve gained over time.
SPEAKER 08 :
And a simple fact that every kid doesn’t learn at the same pace.
SPEAKER 09 :
No. Precision education and precision medicine were promised years ago. We talked about this stuff on some of our first shows. If you could personalize, if I knew your rate of learning and how you learned, I might teach you on an iPad versus somebody else who needs a chalkboard versus somebody else who needs one-on-one conversation, if I could figure out how to effectively move you along the spectrum to make you more productive, better prepared, and a better example, then why wouldn’t I do that? Society wins when that happens.
SPEAKER 08 :
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It’s time to leave your safe space. This is Rush to Reason on KLZ 560.
SPEAKER 08 :
All right. We are back. Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. OK, Steve. And again, Steve House with us right now. And as we go through and talk about, you know, our whole learning system and the fact that maybe I should say leering system. I mean, reality, Steve, is. It is so backwards. I get it. There are some private schooling, homeschool kids and so on where, yes, they are definitely ahead of the curve. They’re learning things differently than what the Marxist school system we have teaches. But the reality is we have a system whereby – the public system, I should say – whereby, for the most part, Steve, every kid is treated the same. There is really no variation in the way that we treat kids today or the way we teach kids today. And, frankly, Steve, that’s to our detriment. I mean, we are – purposely, in my opinion, setting kids back versus jettisoning them forward? No question about it.
SPEAKER 09 :
I mean, take this one factoid, and you can get this from virtually any superintendent of any school system in Colorado or otherwise. If you enter kindergarten with 500 words or less in your vocabulary, you’re going to fail high school. If you have 1,000-word vocabulary or greater, you’re going to do just fine in high school. If you have 2,000 words, you’re going to go to Harvard if you want to. If we know that in kindergarten… why don’t we correct it right then?
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, my feeling is, this is my feeling, and you tell me if I’m wrong, but my feeling is because if we can keep people held back and we can keep our thumb on them, it’s much easier to convince them that $40 trillion in debt is no big deal.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, there’s something to that, right? I mean, if you let people be too curious in facts that matter, and it goes back to where Americans are today. I mean, I’ve never seen more people say, I’m not paying my taxes anymore. I’ve never seen more people saying, you know, the government needs to go away. Bulgaria, in December, marched on the capital. Bulgarian population marched on the capital, 400,000 people plus on the government, and the entire government quit. They just said, you know, they stayed there until the government quit, and they had to reform a new government. That type of behavior occurs when the government thinks it’s smarter than we are. It occurs when the government has taken advantage of it. It occurs when Tommy Coverville talks about the fact that getting $2,500 in Social Security checks is not going to get you through a month, even though you paid in it for years. Anything they can do to suppress… dissent is what happens with the government. And the government, quite frankly, is very powerful, and people don’t realize it, I don’t think.
SPEAKER 08 :
They are. And yet, on the same token, we’ve got, you know, let’s talk about this for a moment. We have got a situation happening right now in Iran where we’ve got a president who I believe, by the way, I think is doing things correctly. He’s literally… Handling that war effort right now, economically speaking, he’s got the straight handled. It is basically, for all intensive purposes, closed. Iran is literally dying on the vine, economically speaking. Things will change there because they won’t have a choice because otherwise they’re all going to starve to death. And yet we have people today complaining about $4 a gallon gasoline, which, by the way, we had under Biden.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, I mean, there’s nobody who should ever accuse Donald Trump of not knowing how to get leverage. Because he clearly has leverage. And if you have leverage and you have the ability to be consistently applying leverage, which means you don’t have to run away soon because you ran out of an ability to deliver, you ran out of gas in your boats, it can be very, very constructive for you. And I think that’s what he’s doing in Iran. And there will be a turnaround. Yeah, temporary $4 gas. I mean, we went down from $4 to under $2 just almost in the first year that Trump was in office. So it’s artificially inflated due to a war. It’ll come back to where it needs to be. But if it ends, you know, 47 years of terror coming out of Iran and the Iranian people, it will never be satisfactory to me if the Iranian people don’t end up better off.
SPEAKER 08 :
I agree.
SPEAKER 09 :
Because it is their country, not ours.
SPEAKER 08 :
That’s exactly right.
SPEAKER 09 :
We shouldn’t bomb schools to kill 168 girls. We need to take responsibility for being horrible when we do that kind of thing. But in the end, it’s still a measure of Are they better off? Are those people better off? And if they’re better off, then it probably was the right thing to do.
SPEAKER 08 :
And to your point, it’s why I look at this this way. We have a president who is holding off as long as possible in knocking out power plants and other things, Steve, which he could have done up to this point. We’re not doing that because in the end, that harms the very people you’re talking about. And that’s where I do look at Donald Trump. And he doesn’t get near enough credit from the left for being benevolent and not doing those things that, frankly, we could have done up to this point, Steve.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, and you know what? He would have lost support from a lot of people. I would have been very upset at him had he done that because of the very factor, which is if you’re going to go into a country like Venezuela or Iran and you’re going to take a sovereign nation, regardless of whether they’re governed by a dictator or not, if you’re going to take a sovereign nation and do that to them, you better end up leaving them with something better, and bombing their power plants would be bad. It’s just like the United States of America. I mean, if we were to take the federal government out and reconstitute according to Jefferson… That only works if people are going to be better off.
SPEAKER 08 :
Right. And to his credit, he hasn’t done that. He is using one of the most powerful tools he’s got, which is the blockade and knocking out the straight, knocking out, as you know right now, reality is their oil wells are… effectively going offline. They will continue to go offline. There are studies out there right now, Steve, that says they’re permanently going to lose 500 million barrels a day or 500,000 barrels a day. I should say not 500 million, 500,000 barrels a day, meaning that’s about a $10 billion a year hit, which is huge money for that country.
SPEAKER 09 :
I know. I mean, most of those countries in that region of the world depend on the oil to feed their people. Now, there’s a very delicate line there, right? I mean, taking their oil offline and then the post-war period, if they don’t have funds coming in, their people are going to be desperately hurt. And, you know, you’ve got to really play that game.
SPEAKER 08 :
And that’s where the cards, as you know, the cards that we’re holding says, hey, guys, hey, Iranians, guess what? If you play ball with us and we get this thing handled in regards to your nuclear weapons, the reality is we can bring some of these things. We can bring Western civilization ideas and the way that we handle oil in this country and so on. We can bring that to you. We can even increase production for you if you guys are willing to sit down and play ball.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah. What you’re basically saying to them is, do you want a better life? Let me ask you the second question we rarely ask is, and how would you define that? And if you want a better life and you’ve defined it in a way that this process gives you that better life, then I think we’ve done something really good. Right.
SPEAKER 08 :
And by the way, for all of you listening, we as a country, even those of you on the left, we as a country have the ability to deliver those things in a not-too-distant future, Steve. The reality is we can turn those wells around very quickly. We have the technology and the ability to do so if, in fact, they’ll play ball.
SPEAKER 09 :
That’s correct. We can. Venezuela is the one where I think a lot of people are looking at what’s happening there, and they saw that the president took oil tankers from Venezuela and Nobody ever actually heard what happened, right? I mean, never said, did America sell the oil and put the money in our treasury? Did the American sell the oil and give it to Venezuela? It’s unfortunate we don’t hear the end of the story because that would tell us a lot more about what we’re doing in the rest of the world when a similar situation like Iran happens.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, and if there’s anything that we don’t do very well, and this is one thing I am critical of our side on an ongoing basis, we communicate crappily. I mean, I don’t know how else to say it, Steve. We don’t communicate for beans. That’s our problem. And if there’s anything we need to rectify, it’s that, by the way. We really do.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, I mean, we have to understand, too, that we can’t be cold or turn a deaf ear toward… Because I had an opportunity to talk to a Lebanese man who’s from a small town in Lebanon that got bombed by Israel in this recent bombing action, and he lost eight members of his family in the bombing, and he said… None of us was in Hezbollah. We don’t even know anybody in Hezbollah. And we lost eight of our family members. If you think that we have anger and hatred toward Israel because we’re terrorists, you’re wrong. We have anger and hatred toward Israel because they killed eight members of our family for no reason. That’s one of the products of war. If we communicated more effectively… Very true. and told some of those stories and took responsibility for that, I think people would see the compassion. They don’t see enough compassion. We used to be better at that. During the Reagan era, we were a lot better at it than we are now.
SPEAKER 08 :
I agree. Steve, I’ll let you go, man. I appreciate it. Thanks so much, as always. Always a pleasure to talk to you, John. You bet. Have a great night, Steve House, and a great friend, and I love Steve dearly, and we go back a long way, and I appreciate his wisdom greatly. Ironworks Realty, again, somebody else that has wisdom that can help you with that particular home whereby you may have inherited things that you weren’t planning on, and yet, estate-wise, you’ve got to do the best you can to try to get things back on track and bring dollars, I should say, right back into the estate. Jeff Paquette can help you with all of that. Ironworks Realty, 303-489-5569.
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Back to Rush to Reason. Okay, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Again, thank you all for listening. I appreciate it greatly. Thank you for the text messages as well. Text line, as always, 307-200-8222, 307-200-8222. Next couple of hours, I will have opportunity for you to call into the studio line if you would like. Alvin Louie is going to be joining us here in just a few minutes, and we’re going to talk about the Southern Poverty Law Center case. and what they’ve been charged with. And, of course, there was a grand jury investigation. We’ll get into that as soon as we come back with Alvin. Don’t go anywhere. Hour number two is next. Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
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