In an engaging session with market expert Bill Gundersen, gain insights into the pulse of today’s stock market. Explore Apple’s declining influence in China due to surging local competitors, and NVIDIA’s strategic meetings aimed at navigating impending tariffs. Delve into the allure of miracle drugs, hailed as breakthrough innovations by industry stalwarts, offering a fresh perspective on health sector investments. The episode also highlights the strategic reactions of stock giants to legislative maneuvers, with tariffs and inflation concerns taking center stage. Whether you’re interested in Decker’s Outdoor’s stellar performance or Intel’s struggles, the conversation serves as a comprehensive guide
00:00:01 Introduction of Bill Gundersen and His Credentials
He’s been seen on CNBC, the Fox News Channel, and the Fox Business Channel. His articles can be found on MarketWatch, Seeking Alpha, TheStreet.com, and many other places. He’s the author of the weekly Best Stocks Now newsletter and the inventor of the Best Stocks Now app. He’s president of Gundersen Capital Management. Here is professional money manager Bill Gundersen.
SPEAKER 08 :
And welcome to the Friday, January 31st. Where did January go? It will be gone. We’ll start February tomorrow. And we’re expected to hear from Donald Trump at some point on those tariffs that he’s been warning about. In the meantime, we have the Dow right now is up just 18 points. After the inflation numbers come in line, the NASDAQ, on the other hand, is off to a very good start. I’ve got to believe it’s mostly Apple and a little bit of Intel. The NASDAQ’s up 243 right now. That’s 1.2%. The S&P 500 is up 36 points. That’s 60 basis points. The Russell 2000 is down a little bit, the small cap stocks. The 10-year is down, oh, about a basis point here at 4.50. It did get to under 4.50 for the first time in a long time yesterday. And of note, gold is hitting a new all-time high today on those tariff worries. I noticed that breakout in gold yesterday in a lot of gold stocks. And we’ve got a new all-time high on gold at $2,856 per ounce. So welcome to today’s Best Docs Now show with Bill Gunderson, president of Gunderson Capital Management. I am the president of the nationwide fee-based only money management firm, and I’m here with Barry Kite, our chartered financial analyst. And we had a pretty good day yesterday, Barry. One thing I noticed, you know, if I go underneath the surface of the market, I said at the end of the day the momentum was back in the market. And, you know, when I say that, I see the buoyancy spreading to the hot areas, the hot money of the market, right? And right now I would call that, The nuclear stocks, the Oklos of the world, the SMRs of the world, a lot of the smaller companies, they had very vibrant days yesterday. So, you know, the animal spirits are coming back in. I suppose we dodged a bullet with Chairman Powell on Wednesday not being too tough on us, and the market kind of celebrated that on Wednesday. and a very good day in the market yesterday. A lot of momentum. ServiceNow was a big down stock. That was one of our holdings. Microsoft, also a loser on Thursday, one of our holdings. But Tesla, Meta, the nuke sector, nuclear had a really good day yesterday.
SPEAKER 05 :
And Tesla’s following it up again today at 4% already.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, so much for that Monday deep-seek sell-off. thinking that we can run these data centers without as much energy now. That seems to be a thesis that was built in the market very quickly, and it was also a thesis that appears to be wrong, as money has come gushing back into Vistra, Constellation Energy, Oklo,
SPEAKER 05 :
And we’ve got Jensen talking about the beginning of the week and how we’re ending the week. We’re going to end the week with Jensen, the CEO of NVIDIA, meeting with Trump, I believe, today.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, he’s meeting face-to-face with Trump today, so that will be very interesting, what comes from that meeting. Well, we started off today, the preferred inflation gauge of the Fed, the PCE, came in as expected, okay? Yeah. So nothing surprising there. You know, inflation seems to be at least kind of under control, but not under control enough for the Fed to be signaling any price cuts or any rate cuts in the near future. And in addition to that, you know, Trump has signaled that February 1st would be the day that he would impose tariffs on Canada and Mexico and maybe China. And I think the market is a little bit nervous, obviously, about that, especially on companies that do a lot of business over there, overseas. He’s also warning the BRICS today, 100% tariffs on BRICS nations, which would be Brazil, Russia, India, China, South Africa. and several other companies in Europe, mostly like Spain, Italy, if they try to replace the U.S. dollar as a reserve currency ahead of his decision to impose 25% duties on Canadian and Mexican goods this weekend. And we’ll see if he follows through on that. Of course, Mexico and Canada have an opportunity to step up to the plate and give him whatever he wants to avoid the tariffs.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, and Colombia folded pretty quickly.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yes, but in the meantime, as far as we know, avocado prices, which mostly come from Mexico, and European cheeses and wines, French wines, etc., No, Canadian goods. 25% tariffs are expected this weekend. BRICS is 10 countries, actually, now. Brazil, Russia, India, China, South Africa, Egypt, Ethiopia, Iran, United Arab Emirates, and Indonesia. And, of course, they want to remove the dollar as the world’s currency. and replace it with a currency of their own, and they’re being threatened with 100% tariffs from Trump. Well, you know, we’ll see what Jensen Wang has to say after his meeting with Trump today. Wang, you know, is a little bit, you know, his hands are tied a little bit as far as going to China. I don’t see any loosening on that policy. But I think that, you know, Trump will kind of signal his intentions with AI. He seems to be much more, you know, less worried about AI than Biden was. Biden had, you know, some strict regulations on it all, which Trump removed. So we’ll see how that meeting goes. NVIDIA, in the meantime, did perk up a little bit yesterday. Let’s see how it’s trading today. It can only help Wang to have Trump on his side. NVIDIA’s trading pretty well today. It came down to that 120 support line, and it’s back up to 125 today. You know, another story involving NVIDIA. Is the U.S. going to probe if DeepSeek bought advanced NVIDIA chips from Singapore? I saw that today. Look how Singapore could tariffs be coming. But many people, I’ve seen comments that DeepSeek had to have a lot more of NVIDIA chips than they were letting on to. And that begs the question, where did they get those chips? So anyways, well, you’ve got the FBI involved in that DeepSeek startup. I’ve got to believe there would be some problems for DeepSeek.
SPEAKER 05 :
And at the same time, I would have to believe that Deep Seek was prepared, right, for some of this scrutiny, I would imagine. So whether it was some miraculous new method or if there was some misuse of something involved, whether it’s chips, I mean, there’s a lot of different… aspects where you can have some infringement, whether it’s just data, right, chip-wise. There’s a lot to this story, I believe, that no one knows, and who knows how much we’ll ever know.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, the lights are being turned on, DeepSeek. NVIDIA says that they don’t believe that DeepSeek did violate U.S. restrictions.
SPEAKER 05 :
And that could be a – that’s probably – there’s certainly probably some political correctness in there. I mean, he was just – didn’t he just visit – I believe Wang just visited China. And so you’re kind of – he’s almost in that Elon space, right, where you’re in between – some of your business certainly depends on China, but you want to kind of talk it back the other way. It’s certainly an interesting dynamic. It’s been an interesting week.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yes, and Trump’s Commerce Secretary, Howard Lutnick, he thinks that they did somehow evade U.S. export controls to buy tons of NVIDIA chips. Okay, so we’ll see where the truth is, but it sounds like we’re going to get to the truth. Another meeting that they want to happen, the parents of Sam Bankman Freed want to meet with Trump. They’re seeking a pardon. I don’t see that happening, Barry. I don’t really see that happening. I think that Franklin Freed was using some of that absconded money to fund Democratic campaigns. A lot of interruptions in the world today. We’ll be right back. We’ll be right back. And welcome back here to the second half of today’s Best Docs Now show. You know, I really like the way that Lilly has been trading recently. Now, I remember when RFK Jr. was nominated to be the HHS secretary, which I don’t know. Have you heard any update on when they’re going to vote on that? I watched some of the testimony, which was good TV, that’s for sure. But I’m not sure, are they ready to vote on that today? We’ll see if he becomes the guy. But I do remember that, you know, Market really feared him on the weight loss drugs. Well, guess what? RFK Jr. hails GLP-1 weight loss meds as miracle drugs, which I’ve been saying now for over a year. It’s a miracle. It’s a miracle. These are miracle drugs. Think of all the weight loss programs that have come along over the years and all the counting of calories and all the frozen meals that limit calories and all the different sweating it out on an exercise cycle and a bike or a treadmill, etc., etc., etc., etc., And, you know, a shot in your stomach, a very simple shot in your stomach once a week, it works. You know, I’ve seen it with many people. They claim that they’ve lost weight when they’ve never been able to lose weight before. And as the health and human service secretary, I still say that the number one health problem that we have in America is not hunger. No, it’s the opposite of hunger. It’s obesity. And from that comes diabetes, comes heart trouble, comes all kinds of issues. And I just can’t see how it’s not a miracle drug when, you know, a year’s time you could lose 20 to 25%.
SPEAKER 05 :
And it can translate into cost savings, right, for the government, for Medicare, for Medicaid, for health plans, health insurers out there.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yes, he used the term miracle drugs, which is pretty incredible. And, I mean, like I say, when you look at the cost, the health care costs that have been soaring, And his comments that, you know, America’s sicker than it’s ever been, how much of that is tied to obesity? I mean, all you’ve got to do is sit in a waiting room, right, at the doctor’s office when people that are having issues and whatnot look around the room. There’s a lot of sick people in America today.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, well, I mean, on Tuesday you had a new study came out. I guess the FDA approved Ozempic for kidney disease, right, which, I mean, that’s not what it was initially intended for, but it helps with that. Yeah.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, I have a friend who’s a former biotech CEO. He retired maybe a couple of years ago, but he was the CEO of a publicly traded biotech company. And he kind of told me, tipped me off. He says, hey, you know what? This is going to be one of the biggest drugs of all time. It’s a miracle drug. So my hat is off to him. I listened to him. I made Lilly one of our largest physicians. And I’m a big believer, a big, big believer in this GLP-1 phase. I mean, you know, it’s even at the Academy Awards. What do they call it? Ozempic face? The Wagovi. Wagovi. Everybody’s got a Wagovi face and all this and that. But it works. Okay, I mentioned the gold settling at a record high yesterday. Gold has kind of been stuck in that $2,700 area for a long, long time. And I think… As I look at charts on a daily basis and I look underneath the surface of the market, I saw all the gold stocks. I saw Newmont Mining breaking out all of a sudden. But more importantly, I saw the commodity that drives the bus breaking out to an all-time high. I don’t know if they’re still selling gold coins at Costco, but they raise their hourly pay to $30 an hour, Barry. It makes me almost want to go there and get a job in the bakery. I can bake the loaf of bread if I have to.
SPEAKER 05 :
You know what that’s going to mean? Pretty soon we’ll have a $5 or $10 increase on the membership side.
SPEAKER 08 :
If they keep that hot dog at $1.50. But they do a good job.
SPEAKER 05 :
For $30 an hour, I will say they don’t ride the clock there. They’re doing work. At least at our Costco, that place is always busy.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, the changes apply to Costco employees at non-union locations, but $30 an hour. So you know what? I’ve heard from a lot of people it’s a great place to work. In fact, I have another friend that manages the Costco in West Ashley.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, we’ve got a couple of clients. Yeah, we’ve got a couple of clients that have had careers there sometimes.
SPEAKER 08 :
And they love working there. They’ve made nothing but money in the stock, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
SPEAKER 05 :
They like working there as much as we like shopping there. Put it that way.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah. Okay. Well, I tweeted out this morning that we would be talking about Apple and their five-year target price. Apple today… did okay with their earnings, and that has something to do here with the rise in the NASDAQ and the S&P 500 today. But analysts show mixed reactions among the iPhone and China woes, okay? What do they mean by China woes? Well, Huawei. Huawei is their China woe. Now, I remember going into a Best Buy, maybe a couple years ago, and seeing Huawei phones on sale there. And we eventually banned Huawei phones from the U.S. because of all of the spyware that was supposedly in them, and the chips that gathered information and surveillance and whatnot. But Huawei is going strong in China. and they have become the biggest phone maker in China now, biggest seller of phones. They have surpassed Apple, and that’s a big, put the big squeeze in the herd on Apple, losing that big market in China. Now, not that they don’t still sell a lot of phones in China, but Huawei has taken a big, big chunk, out of their market share in China. And of course, the same thing is happening to Elon Musk.
SPEAKER 05 :
I’m pretty sure they sold less phones in the last year in China than they did the year before. We’re all used to, for most companies out there, over the last 25, 30 years, China’s been a growth place for companies. In Apple’s sense, at least in regards to the iPhone, that’s no longer the case.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, Apple is up just 1.3% now. It’s kind of given up a lot of those early gains. But when we come back, I’m going to open the hood on Apple just like we did on Tesla yesterday. We found that Tesla is a very expensive stock that needs to really deliver. Where does Apple sit right now from a valuation point of view? How much upside is there that when we get back, it’s the Best Thoughts Now show? This is Bill Gunderson. Thank you for tuning in to today’s Best Stocks Now, Best Inverse Funds Now show. I put several hours of research in during the wee hours of the morning each day to bring you the very best cutting edge stories that I can. To get two free weeks of my newsletter, go to GundersonCapital.com. To talk to us about our fee-based only money management services… Call us at 855-611-BEST. Now, back to the second half of the show.
SPEAKER 04 :
We got to get together sooner or later.
SPEAKER 08 :
And welcome back here to the second half of today’s Best Docs Now show. So as promised, we’re going to peek under the hood of Apple. And, you know, my worry, we talk about all the time the evolution or the, you know, the sequence of events that companies go through. They start off as a startup, an idea, and then a startup, and then maybe they make it go public. Maybe at some point in time they’re an emerging growth company. I remember when Amazon went public, you know, 25 years ago. In fact, I put a picture in my newsletter about a month ago of Jeff Bezos standing there at the NASDAQ the day that Amazon went public. And, of course, the lifespan of the company. Amazon is no longer a startup. It’s no longer an IPO wannabe. It became an IPO, I think, at about a dollar a share many years ago, probably about 50 cents now with all the splits. Went through some tough times as a publicly traded company. And then all of a sudden it became an emerging growth stock. started to hit its stride it became an ultra growth stock in my opinion and eventually it became a large cap growth stock which it is today and it occupies one of the slots in our uh in our premier growth portfolio it does not pay a dividend however which usually comes a little bit later in life eventually it will get to that point apple got to that point a few years ago As the growth started to slow down, it started to offer investors a small dividend. And, you know, I would say that Apple is further down the road than Amazon is. There’s no question about it. Amazon is still kind of in a very high growth phase. Apple is not in that high growth phase anymore. And for that reason, It doesn’t really meet my criteria these days. As you look at this quarter that they just had, their sales were only up 4% year over year. That’s not the double-digit growth that, you know, great growth stocks are made of. Apple has surrendered that double-digit growth, and their earnings were only up 10% year over year, which is not the 15%, 20%, you know, that kind of stamps you as a superior growth stock. Apple does not have the kind of growth that it used to have unless it can innovate, unless it can come up with something that will spur that growth again. Going forward, I’m using a 10% growth rate, and I think that’s pretty generous. It’s a 10% grower at best. And if you look at this most recent quarter, that’s exactly where they came in, 10% year over year. So my fear is it’s becoming a market performer. And, you know, we’re seeking alpha, okay? We’re seeking returns better than the S&P 500. That’s the definition of alpha. And I find it hard to make a case that Unless something new comes along from CEO Cook, that can help make a case for that. And, you know, so I kind of see a market performer. And as I look at the results of Apple, that’s what I’m kind of seeing recently. Over the last 12 months, Apple’s up 24.5%. The S&P’s up 23%. Okay, so there’s no alpha really there. And as I look over the last three years, this is even more telling, Barry. Apple has returned 12.3% per year total return, and the S&P is 12.4%. And that backs the analysis that I’m making that I think has become a market performance.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, and they’ve created themselves an ecosystem where you’ve got certainly a steady earnings income stream in terms of having that continuous refresh in terms of the phone. A lot of us trapped inside of their ecosystem in terms of whether it’s iTunes or iCloud or what have you, particularly on the phone side. But you’ve got to have that… next kind of innovation piece and you know we just it’s hard to envision where it’s going to come from remember at one point it was going to be a you know a car uh other point you know you’ve got the uh you know headset or glasses ai you know vr right and then they’ve been you know we from an ai standpoint or at least story-wise they’ve kind of been behind the eight ball on that so
SPEAKER 08 :
Exactly. And, you know, so looking backwards, they have been a market performer for the last three years. And looking forward, when I look at their earnings today and extrapolate them out at 10% growth over the next five years and apply a multiple to that, I come up with 56% upside potential. That’s very subpar. That’s a D minus. I like 80% or more upside potential. And so they fall well short of my evaluation criteria. The stock doesn’t have a lot of momentum, and the chart is not very good. So anyways, that’s where I stand on Apple. I know a lot of people are sitting on their Apple. They have big gains on Apple. They don’t want to sell their Apple. But I just think, at best, it’s a market performer, unless they come up with a big reason once a year to trade in the old one for the new one because of something new that you’ve just got to have. And I just haven’t seen that from Apple in a long time. So that’s where we stand on Apple, very neutral. You know, if the name of your show is Best Stock Now, The name of your newsletter is Best Stocks Now, and your portfolios are Best Stocks Now. Apple just doesn’t fit the bill at this point in its life. Now, Intel is way past its prime. It’s even further down the road in its sequence as a publicly traded company. They did beat their Q4 estimates. The stock is, let’s see, last time I looked it was up a little bit. Let’s see, Intel right now is, no, it’s down 1.2%. It’s at or near a new low at $19.77. It’s been disgraced, really. The CEO is gone, Gelsinger. It’s been kicked out of the Dow. I don’t know that it ever paid a dividend. Maybe it did. But if they did, they don’t have a dividend yield anymore. And the performance of the stock has been horrible. And, you know, I think Gelsinger summed it all up when he made the announcement that he wanted America to fast and pray for the employees at Apple. You know, I’ve never heard a CEO do that before.
SPEAKER 05 :
Or an Intel. No, an Intel. Yeah, an Intel.
SPEAKER 08 :
I mean, an Intel. I go, what in the world? Is it in that bad a shape? Well, look at… He must have known.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, he must have known, huh?
SPEAKER 08 :
Over the last 10 years, you’ve held this stock for 10 years, you’ve lost 2.7% per year or Over the last five years, you’ve lost 19.3% per year. Over the last five years. Well, the market’s delivered 17%. Over the last three years, you’ve lost 23%. But, you know, a lot of that’s happened in recent years, which, you know, spreads out to those three, five, ten-year returns. Here’s the real whammy. Over the last 12 months, the stock is down 53.7%. Now, you’ll notice that it’s Jensen Wang meeting with Trump today in the White House. It’s not Patrick Gelsinger and other CEOs that have been at the helm along this 10-year descent of Intel. And yet, you know what? Still a very highly owned stock, widely owned, very widely owned. Maybe not as much anymore, but it used to be one of those ones that you could almost guarantee that it would be in a portfolio coming from one of the big Wall Street firms. Well, now maybe it’s a turnaround play at some point in time, like GE was. They’ve got to find somebody, and I know that they’re still looking for a CEO. Maybe they can poach somebody from NVIDIA or AMD, Barry, and get that thing turned around. Okay, now when we come back, as you know, we always talk about our losers. And we have one that has been one of the greatest stocks we’ve ever found. It continues to meet all of my criteria. I even bought some more yesterday for our new client. And the stock is down 15% today, despite a very good report, very good guidance. But when you’ve got companies that have done what this stock has done, the expectations are very high, and I guess the report just wasn’t quite good enough. We’ll be right back.
SPEAKER 02 :
And welcome back here to the final segment of today’s Best Docs Now show.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, we consider one of the best stocks that I’ve ever found has been Decker’s Outdoor, which is headquartered in Goleta, California. And Decker’s began with UGG and Sheepskin Boots. They came along with Teva Sandals, some other products. But lately, it’s been Hoka Hoka Hoka. I’m a guy, I fly in an airplane, I look at people’s shoes, Barry, and not that I have a shoe fetish or anything, but I see a lot of hokas.
SPEAKER 05 :
That’s where we got the boots on the ground reference.
SPEAKER 08 :
Men are wearing hokas. They’re not wearing Nikes anymore, right?
SPEAKER 05 :
Boots on the ground.
SPEAKER 08 :
I wear hokas, okay? And Nike is a mature stock that pays a dividend that has entered kind of into Apple territory. It’s ahead of Apple probably by a couple of years. as far as being a dead stock or a market performer, not even a market performer, but Decker’s continues. It’s the number 26 ranked stock in my app as of yesterday. And here’s why. Over the last 10 years, while Intel’s been going down by 3% a year, Decker’s has averaged 32% per year, which puts it in the upper 10%. 1% of all the stocks out there. But wait, it gets better. They have picked up, their performance has even picked up more since they introduced HOKA to the world a few years ago. Over the last five years, Decker’s has averaged 50% per year, while the market’s averaged 17%. Now that’s alpha. Three times the market performance. And over the last three years, Decker’s has averaged 64% returns versus 12% for the S&P 500. And over the last 12 months, it’s up 73% while the market’s up 23%. So as you might figure, the expectations are extraordinarily high for this company when they report earnings. And I knew they were going to report earnings yesterday. That didn’t make any difference to me because over the years, I’ve seen them knock the ball out of the park many times with their earnings. And I thought they actually had a pretty good earnings report. I didn’t see anything wrong with it.
SPEAKER 05 :
They had record-breaking Q3 performance with revenue growth of 17% year over year. Yeah. And gross margins improved to over 60%. So I bet you Nike would love those numbers.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yes. But I guess where the problem is is they – Forward growth that they put out there was, I think, 15% or something like that. And the street, there’s such a thing as a whisper number. Okay, there’s the consensus out there that is the printed number, but there’s expectations underneath the surface in the analyst community. It’s called the whisper number that they’re hoping for. They’re hoping that Decker’s had sandbagged them and was going to give even higher guidance than they gave. Well, it wasn’t good enough.
SPEAKER 05 :
Notice the old earnings game.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yes. So the stock today is down 16%. Now, I did add to our position yesterday. I mean, we have huge gains in this stock. But if you got in on the buy yesterday, you’re going, ah, this is a bad stock. Well, I can just tell you that over the years, Decker’s has thrown in a few clunkers here and there. I don’t consider this to be a clunker. I consider this to be an overreaction by an overly optimistic analyst community and investors community. And the hot money is leaving Decker’s today. The stock was breaking out to new highs yesterday. So, you know what, I will factor in the new numbers. As of yesterday, I had 89% upside potential over the next five years in Decker’s, which meets my criteria. The stock was gaining momentum. The stock was hitting new all-time highs, and it had a great chart. But it is down 16% today.
SPEAKER 05 :
By the way, part of those forward guidance includes some currency headwinds, right? Currency headwinds tend to not persist for an extended period of time. So part of that is the fact that they’re doing some business overseas. And then, of course, when that currency comes back, translates back to the U.S., As the U.S. dollar strengthened, right, that currency translation coming back doesn’t buy as many dollars.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yes. So I’m not real worried about it. I’m disappointed by the market’s reaction here today, but I’m not going to lose any sleep over it. I think it will be back to its be hitting new highs eventually. I don’t know when, but I think it will be. Well, we have had a huge week. This has been a monster week of earnings. And, you know, as of last week, the expectations for this quarter, 12.7% growth versus the comparable quarter last year. We’ll see if the needle moved at all for the quarter. For 2024, we’re still waiting for those final numbers when this earnings season ends. We’ll see if those numbers moved at all. We’ll see if the 2025 numbers have moved at all, which obviously we’re now currently in, one month into this new year. And we’ll see if next year’s 2026 earnings numbers moved at all. That is the number one indicator for the market. It’s not any technical averages. It’s technical, you know, different technical tools and whatnot. It’s earnings, earnings, earnings. That’s what drives the market. So I will be updating my market macro outlook going forward. The market is not cheap. I agree with Chairman Powell. And I will be updating my target prices on the market. We did quite a bit of buying this past week. That will also show up in the newsletter tomorrow. And we’re still offering the four-week trial today. to follow and get all of the alerts that I send out during the day. I’ve been pretty busy this past week. A lot of alerts went out this past week. Go to GundersenCapital.com for a four-week trial of that service. And if you say, well, I don’t have time to be watching the market during the day like you do, Gundersen, we’re going to interview you and your team and see what we think about managing our money and moving our assets from where we’re at now because we’re in a bunch of soggy stocks like the ones you mention all the time on your show. Set up an appointment at 855-611-BEST. 855-611-BEST. Have a great day and have a great weekend, everybody.
SPEAKER 06 :
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