Join Ethan Brown and John Rush as they delve into the roots of anti-Semitic narratives and discuss the social dynamics that fuel these conspiracy theories. They explore the resilience and outstanding contributions of the Jewish community despite facing baseless accusations throughout history. This episode serves as a reminder of the power of education and understanding in dispelling misinformation.
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All right, we are back. Hour number two, Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Myself, Andy Pate, of course, Ethan Brown joining us now. He is host of the Sweaty Penguin podcast. Ethan, welcome. How are you? I’m good. How are you? Doing very well. So as I was reading your information from publicists that they always send out, as I was reading through that, I’m like, okay, time out. This is stuff that, frankly, I haven’t heard and really wanted you to come on and talk about because I just find this very disturbing, and that is there is a narrative out there that somehow Israel and Jewish communities are at fault, for example, the fire that just happened in California. How so, Ethan?
SPEAKER 03 :
It sounds ridiculous, doesn’t it? It sure does. Yeah. As a Jewish climate writer myself, I figured I had to dispel this once and for all. But yeah, there’s been long-standing conspiracy theories about Jews controlling the weather. And more recently, it’s cropped up in the context of Israel’s war effort in Gaza, either as some sort of karmic retribution for folks who are against the war effort or from folks who think that US tax dollars that are going to Israel could be funding local efforts to prevent these
SPEAKER 15 :
these disasters of course those two things you see i thought maybe they were thinking they were concerned that jews were like in the old testament calling down fire from heaven and uh starting fires i mean it’s all the burning bush i mean you know i mean was there did they make sure to protect the area around the bush before it was burning um
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, seriously.
SPEAKER 15 :
This is so stupid. I got nothing, man.
SPEAKER 12 :
I mean, Ethan, I get it. Anti-Semitism runs deep in a lot of areas. I’ve never understood why. I mean, it’s just not something that I was ever born with or ingrained with growing up. In fact, my father was probably… about as opposite of all of that as you could ever imagine. I mean, we were not allowed to even say certain words in our home, making fun of one another as boys. So there was all sorts of things my father was very big on, and this being one of them. But, you know, I guess being dumb on my end, where do these narratives get started? I mean, who thinks of this nonsense?
SPEAKER 03 :
It’s bizarre to me because it comes from vastly different places. The Jews control the weather conspiracy. I tried to do some research. It seems it originated from when the Rothschilds, which are a Jewish banking family, bought a large stake in the Weather Channel. People suddenly decided, oh, that means they control the weather, which obviously is not the case.
SPEAKER 15 :
Hey, Ethan, really quick. If Jews control the weather, do they take requests? I mean, I’ve got a few.
SPEAKER 03 :
I’ve got several.
SPEAKER 15 :
I’m just a Jewish person. I haven’t been invited to any of these meetings.
SPEAKER 12 :
In a way, I wish they did, because, yeah, I have requests also, Ethan.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah. The last weekend, we didn’t enjoy it.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, we always blow zero here. I would love to have changed that. I’m just saying.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, I was shoveling snow off the deck yesterday. Yeah, okay.
SPEAKER 12 :
You understand. I mean, but that’s how ludicrous this sounds.
SPEAKER 03 :
I agree. And that’s part of why I wanted to address it, because, yes, it sounds silly and I was speechless, too. But in the case of Hurricanes Helene and Milton, there were anti-Semitic attacks being thrown at Jewish officials, such as Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas, the mayor of Asheville, North Carolina, Esther Manheimer. These things were actually preventing them from being able to communicate critical information to their constituents. because their social media was so flooded. And so that’s when it actually becomes a problem, and that’s why I felt important to address it.
SPEAKER 15 :
You know, Ethan, talking more seriously here for a moment, the fact that such ludicrous accusations are thrown at the Jewish community, they wouldn’t do that if the Jewish community was actually doing anything. I mean, your community is not engaging in terrorism. You’re not blowing up subway stations. You don’t have Jewish gangs running around in Denver looting. I mean, Jewish people… it seems almost because of the overwhelming goodness of the Jewish community that they have to go to such extremes in their accusations.
SPEAKER 03 :
I mean, it’s been, as I’m sure you know, Jews have been persecuted wherever they’ve gone throughout history, be it the Middle East or the pogroms in Eastern Europe and the Holocaust, of course, and it continues to this day. And I think It’s kind of, people have said anti-Semitism is a shape-shifting virus. I think that’s a very apt metaphor because really when we, I mean, when we either were too white or we’re not white enough, either we should have a state or we shouldn’t have a state. Like whenever we do one thing, the other thing becomes the right answer.
SPEAKER 12 :
So it’s tough. No, and again, you can tell you’re in very light company, and I just have to sometimes shake my head at some of these things because I just – and I do my best, by the way, Ethan, we do on this program to dispel a lot of the just nonsense conspiracy theories that are out there. And by the way, they roll out there for all sorts of things, not just along these lines, but all sorts of utter nonsense. And – I mean, where they start, I have no idea. I mean, one person or a group has to get them started. I don’t know where the core is of some of these things. But the problem, Ethan, is, as you know, once they get rolling, it is extremely difficult to kill these things. For example, the flat earthers that are out there running around that I still see different social media posts and things on. I just think to myself, you can’t be that dumb, can you?
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, I think these things spread quickly, and I think, honestly, it’s… thing of cognitive dissonance. Our brains are wired to make a conclusion and then find evidence to back it up. And so if people are prejudiced for one reason or another, they’re going to create new explanations for it. And I wish that weren’t the case. The best we can do is just try to put out good information, be our best selves and hope for the best. Agreed.
SPEAKER 15 :
Really quick, Ethan. Yesterday in his inauguration speech, Trump came out and said he wants a society that is colorblind and merit-based. Look, if we actually go in that direction, I think that would bode very well for the Jewish community.
SPEAKER 03 :
I think so, too. I think that obviously that’s the end goal, but I also acknowledge that there are certain things structural advantages and disadvantages that certain groups have that if you’re, for example, if you are coming out of Jim Crow laws and you might have lower wealth that still stems from that or something like that, you’re you might face certain difficulties.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, and that’s where you and I will have to agree to disagree, because we live in the land of opportunity in the United States of America, and Ethan, I think even… There’s an expiration date on that. Yeah, I mean, you take lots of different individuals that have, you know, dark-colored skin… And I can list, you know, I can rattle some of them off that grew up in utter poverty and yet still made something of themselves. I still look at that as your choice as an American to do what you want to, not driven by your surroundings, but what you want to intrinsically do inside. Which, by the way, that bodes very well with the Jewish faith, if you ask me.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, I wouldn’t argue that upward mobility doesn’t exist. I think it exists here probably better than anywhere because of that opportunity.
SPEAKER 12 :
And by the way, Ben Carson being one of the greatest examples of what I just said.
SPEAKER 03 :
Sure. I think it’s obviously a very nuanced conversation and not exactly my area of expertise, but I think there’s kind of a, I don’t think there’s one side that’s correct. I think there’s you want to create opportunity for everyone and also acknowledge everyone’s experience.
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, going back to what Andy said a moment ago, on the merit-based sides of things, and I talk about this on air often, Ethan, if you look at what Israel and the Jewish community has done, worldwide, technologically speaking, advancements that have been made from the beginning of time till now, it’s pretty hard to find another people group that have done as much merit as what the Jewish community has done in those areas. Am I wrong?
SPEAKER 03 :
I would agree. I think, not having studied every single group on Earth, but certainly knowing our story, I think it’s pretty amazing that we, after being conquered from our own homeland in Israel and driven into exile, were able to come back, purchase land, create a new nation, become one of the top startup nations in the world, invent desalination, drip irrigation, all these different medical advancements. Oh, it’s amazing. And then in the rest of the world, Nobel Prize winners have been largely Jewish. Yeah. And I think it’s largely due to a lot of the values we have in our culture of education and speaking our mind.
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, I’ll tell you really quick, Ethan, as an American, and I say this often. Had it not been for you all, we today in America could easily half be speaking German and the other half be speaking Japanese, had it not been for the Jews that helped us develop the weapons necessary. And that’s a whole other topic in and of itself. But the weapons necessary to defeat what happened in World War II, we have no idea what the outcome would have been otherwise.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, and another thing, I mean, desalinization, what they’re doing in Israel, boy, they could have used that recently in California.
SPEAKER 12 :
Don’t get me started.
SPEAKER 15 :
You know, I just think it’s wonderful. Look, all people are equal. All people are the same. All people are made in the image of God and have great potential. Everybody. It makes absolutely no difference. But the Jewish community, their history, their culture has been one of rewarding excellence.
SPEAKER 12 :
And I think that’s great. Yeah, exactly. Good way of saying it, Andy. Well, thanks. I appreciate that. And part of that, Ethan, is I think because that faith, which our Judeo-Christian faith in America stems from your guys’ faith as well. Again, I don’t want to get technical and get into all sorts of biblical history and so on, but the reality is our faith is very much based upon yours as well. And both faiths, by the way, but yours especially, creates excellence, does it not? Yes.
SPEAKER 03 :
I think it’s less the faith and more the tradition. I think that certainly a lot of Jews are not as religious, but the fact that we are… I mean, I was talking with a couple work colleagues a month or two ago, one of whom was Jewish and one wasn’t, and the two of us are not as religious, but we were both realizing we had all this
SPEAKER 15 :
financial literacy that our non-jewish co-worker didn’t have just having been raised jewish this is something you talk about at the kitchen table so why is that because you’re right it’s it’s both religious non-religious it doesn’t matter and i agree it’s more of a cultural thing i’m not saying so much a religious thing but how come the smallest group in the world is a gathering a meeting of jews on welfare
SPEAKER 03 :
Sorry, can you say the last part again?
SPEAKER 15 :
Why is the smallest group in the world a meeting of Jews on welfare?
SPEAKER 12 :
In other words, there’s hardly any of you that do that.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, religious, non-religious, whatever. It doesn’t exist. It almost doesn’t exist. Or, you know, violent Jews. There’s another one. I can’t find any, okay? All I know is this. Blaming you guys for the weather is something people do because they can’t blame you for much of anything else.
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Sure. I think there’s some elements of that. Honestly, it’s hard to know where it comes from, in part because it comes from so many different directions. There’s more white supremacist groups that will create anti-Semitic narratives, and then there’s folks on the far left as a result of objections against Israel that create anti-Semitic narratives. Correct. Sometimes I feel like often you have one side of the aisle calling out the opposite side and the other side calling out. I think the left suddenly cares about anti-Semitism when someone on the right says something and vice versa. I think for myself, I try to call out all of it and uplift anyone who is supportive for us, no matter what their politics are.
SPEAKER 12 :
For me, I think I can sum up why you guys have some of the problems that you have with one word. And I’ve thought this all along. It’s called jealousy, Ethan. The rest of the world and a lot of other people’s groups are very jealous over the things that we have talked about that the nation of Israel and the Jewish culture that you and Andy were just talking about has created. And in turn, that jealousy creates a lot of the things that we’re talking about.
SPEAKER 03 :
I think that’s an element of it. I think there’s also just some poor education and poor understanding of history that goes in as well.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, that doesn’t help. And by the way, I can’t argue that because sometimes people that are uneducated in something become even more jealous because they don’t understand all of the backstory to that. But, you know, for example, and I know we don’t have a lot of time, but let me let me give you this example. Somebody may be very jealous of their neighbor for having something that they have, and yet if they really knew the neighbor’s backstory as to maybe the fact that they started from nothing, maybe never even had much of an education, but worked really hard and enabled themselves to be able to do something now that they have that the other neighbor doesn’t have, my point is because of that lack of understanding of that neighbor, that jealousy still exists.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yes, I think that’s very fair.
SPEAKER 12 :
And I think in you guys’ case, again, I think I can sum up a lot of what goes on, and even where these conspiracies get started from, it’s called jealousy. They don’t have what you have.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, I think that’s true. And again, I think, like we were saying, it’s not always that they understand it all and are jealous. Often it’s that lack of understanding that might still lead to that. How do folks find you, Ethan? You can find me on all social media at EthanBrown5151. If you want to check out the Sweaty Penguin, go to thesweatypenguin.com. Yeah, thanks again for having me.
SPEAKER 12 :
No, I appreciate it, Ethan. Thank you so much, and I appreciate that. Sharp guy. Yeah, and… Again, when I read that, I got that into my inbox, and I’m like, okay, wait a minute. I literally had to read that one twice, Andy. Typically, I don’t. Typically, I can get a pretty good idea of what’s going on with an email that comes in, and I’m like, okay, wait a minute. We’re going to blame the California fires on the Jews. Heck yeah. The dumbest thing I’ve ever heard.
SPEAKER 15 :
John, you know what, though? There are a lot of Jews. Where do I submit my weather requests?
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Putting reason into your afternoon drive, this is John Rush.
SPEAKER 12 :
All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Debra’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Okay, we’ve got something that you wanted to play that kind of coincide with our last guest about the California fires and so on. That has to do with the Bill Gates, Donald Trump interview.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, and Gates doesn’t talk about the fires, but that’s actually a problem. And I’ll tell you what, really quick here. As you know, Donald Trump is trying to make inroads with all of big tech, which is very intelligent. I believe so. He is scaring the bejeebies off the Democrats because they have owned the public—
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, because they’ve owned mass media, which, by the way, including even some of the big tech stuff. Now, as we’ll get into this and even come back and talk after, that scenery is changing. Big tech, of course, with the purchase of X by Elon Musk has changed things immensely. Some of the others are now getting on board thinking, oh, man, either we get on this train or we’re going to get left behind and or have all sorts of other problems if we don’t. And I think Andy said earlier in the last hour or two that some of these guys are also looking back to this last administration thinking, you know what? We really didn’t get treated very well by these guys. We got demanded and overrun and all sorts of things that, frankly, we don’t like either. So, you know, let’s hop on this other train this time and see how this works out.
SPEAKER 15 :
exactly and bill gates this is less than two minutes he’s just talking about a meeting that he had with trump they actually got together for three hours and he talks about his priorities but i’m going to criticize this here we go have you met with donald trump since the election yeah i had a chance to go have a long and actually quite intriguing dinner with him what did you discuss what was intriguing
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Well, we touched on a lot of things. It was over three hours, to my surprise. It was just he and I, his chief of staff, Susie Wiles, and the person who helps manage things for me, Larry Cohen. So the four of us sat there, and it was quite wide-ranging. Global health is the area that I work in, and such amazing things have happened and can happen there. I spoke a lot about HIV and that the foundation is literally working on a cure for that. We’re at an early stage. And so he, in the COVID days, accelerated the vaccine innovation. So I was asking him if maybe the same kind of thing could be done here. And we both got, I think, pretty excited about that. We talked about polio, where we’re very close to getting that done, but If you stop, it’ll spread back. And so I explained why it’s been tough in Pakistan, Afghanistan. We’ve had cases show up in Gaza. We have cases in Africa. And he was fascinated to hear what he could do to maximize the chance that during the next four years that incredible milestone will be achieved. I felt like he was energized and looking forward to helping to drive innovation. I was frankly impressed with how well he showed a lot of interest in the issues I brought up.
SPEAKER 15 :
Okay, and really quick here. John, I’m a little sick of this, okay? I’m not sick of Trump reaching out to these guys. He’s broadening his coalition. I think that’s great. It’s brilliant. I’m all for it. But what if Bill Gates actually did things to help Americans not advance his agenda for once? You know, he’s got all this unbelievable wealth, right? And I’m with him on the polio thing. I am. That’s great. But, you know, AIDS… AIDS. Really? So, you know, Bill, why don’t you do something like this? Why don’t you build better firefighting equipment? OK, what if you develop cleaner ways to burn coal, which is cheap and plentiful energy for poor Americans? What if you developed even safer? nuclear energy development what if you help the logging industry in california which by the way would bring them a lot of money and would have shut down a lot of the fires that happened okay they wouldn’t have spread nearly as fast what if you did things that actually mattered rather than advancing your agenda all the time aids research i mean he thinks we need to spend more on fighting aids which is the most heavily funded disease versus the threat level ever Serious. If you look at the number of people who have had AIDS, and by the way, do I want to spend money fighting AIDS? Yes. But we already have, John, to a staggering degree. If you look at the number of people who have had it and the amount of money that’s gone into fighting it versus other diseases, it’s ridiculous. And he’s more worried about that. Here’s an idea. What about heart disease? That kills many, many, many times more. What about elderly care, Bill? How about caring for the elderly?
SPEAKER 12 :
Care for Alzheimer’s, all sorts of things.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, Alzheimer’s. What about Alzheimer’s? We just saw it with our past president. What about children born with disabilities? Hey, you know, Bill, instead of advancing your agenda all the time, how about helping Americans where they are? Right. where they need to be helped, because all I hear is you’re really happy that Trump sat down with you for three hours and, you know, was supportive of your agenda. How about you be supportive of things that actually affect way, way, way more Americans? What do you think?
SPEAKER 12 :
Can’t argue that. I’m sick of this. You know, not a fan of Bill Gates and frankly haven’t been for the longest of times because I’m not even a Windows guy. So that tells you how much I dislike Bill Gates because I don’t even like the software he produces. But that’s a whole other conversation.
SPEAKER 15 :
But, John, it would be like me sitting down with Trump and coming out of it and telling everybody I’m so excited because of all the improvements he’s going to help make to Lambeau Field. Right. OK. And people would be like, that’s great. You’re a Packer fan. What about the rest of the nation? This guy cares about his agenda. Look, we’re talking about one of the wealthiest men the world has ever seen. Think of the good he could do. Think of, you know, what if he had been helping with reservoirs before the fires in California? What if he had been helping with logging?
SPEAKER 12 :
What if he had been helping? As far as, you know, making, you know, glass that’s fireproof and things along those lines and making it affordable enough to where people can put that in their homes and so on and so forth.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah. Instead of telling us all about global warming, which didn’t cause any of it, and it’s just insane that people try to push that, well, set all that aside. There were all kinds of things, concrete things. We don’t wonder about these things. We knew had we put more money into these things, a fire like that would have killed far fewer people, damaged far less property, done far less damage. Look, bottom line, L.A. would still be there, but What new? We didn’t have the funding that we needed for the L.A. Fire Department. We didn’t. We had DEI rife through the L.A. Fire Department. Right. That was their priority rather than being ready for a fire. We didn’t have the reservoirs that they could have had and should have had. We didn’t have the logging. We didn’t have the clearing the brush. We didn’t have all these things. You know, how about the desalinization that the Jews are doing over there in Israel? We could have had that. They have none of it. OK, I’m sick of it. People like Bill Gates want to talk about fighting AIDS, which has had once again, I I think it’s horrifying that somebody gets AIDS and, you know, I’m all for funding that. But my goodness, the money we poured is well taken.
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SPEAKER 12 :
All right, we are back. John and Cheyenne, go ahead, sir.
SPEAKER 10 :
Hey, so right after I hung up with you yesterday, I saw it on X. I think the best executive order Trump signed yesterday of all of them was revoking all those security clearances.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, that was a good one, too. I loved it. Absolutely.
SPEAKER 10 :
The 51? Well, it was more than that because it was those 51 plus a handful of others that lied about other things. Right. But the 51, a lot of those guys work for CNN and MSN and they’re guests and everything. And they just lost all their access. I know. That’s wonderful. That’s where TIA has to go in and say, if anybody here gives out classified information, we’re going to have you arrested to those people who don’t have a clearance. Because that’s how they make their money, having inside information, and it’s all gone. And I think that’s a better punishment than even going to jail, because now you’re going to make them paupers, hopefully.
SPEAKER 12 :
Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER 10 :
I don’t know. Can’t argue that. You know, that’s the thing. The same thing. Liz Cheney, yeah, they gave her a pardon. But in the court of public opinion, nobody’s ever going to elect her to public office again.
SPEAKER 12 :
No, she’s done.
SPEAKER 10 :
She’s done. She couldn’t even turn to a Democrat. and run in Virginia because they would look at her and say, no, you don’t vote Democrat, you vote conservative.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, you could get in the primary side of that another Democrat to eat her up. So, yeah, no, she’s done.
SPEAKER 15 :
John, even up in, John, you’re in Wyoming, even up there, is there any business or non-prof or whatever who would hire her without worrying that she would actually hurt their PR?
SPEAKER 10 :
Absolutely. I don’t think so. Maybe one of those lunatic companies up in Teton County, or maybe the University of Wyoming, but even that, they just cut one of the bills that just got passed by the House, went over to the Senate, is to completely eliminate all DEI at the University of Wyoming. They did half of it last year. And the governor line item vetoed a couple of things because he said we’d lose federal funding. Interesting. Because this is a regular session, pretty much the legislature said, fine, we’re going to eliminate the rest of it, and if we lose federal funding, so what? We don’t want the DPI funds anyway. So the other one that’s coming up, and I know it’s a little change of subject, is the property tax bill has come back around. The one that got lost last year. If your property is valued, a residential property valued at under a million dollars, you do not pay property tax.
SPEAKER 12 :
That’s in Wyoming?
SPEAKER 10 :
At all. Yeah. Wow. It’s up at the legislature now. They’re going to put it up again. But that’s the bill. And they’re going to replace it by adding an increase to the state sales tax of 2%.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, okay, fine. Consumption tax, fine. Whatever, I’m okay with that. I’d be okay with that here.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, but would your governor ever do something like that?
SPEAKER 15 :
No. No, no, no. That would never happen. Are you kidding? By owning property, we’re evil people. You’re right.
SPEAKER 10 :
You know, Andy, isn’t it fun to be part of the evil people? Yes, it is. Mm-hmm. You know, just going back to your guest at the top of the hour, if you just go back and start reading your Bible from the beginning again, how many times have the Jews been persecuted over the last 3,300 years?
SPEAKER 12 :
Too many.
SPEAKER 10 :
I mean, it has been a scapegoat going back 3,300 years. Anytime something goes wrong, let’s blame the Jews first.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yep.
SPEAKER 10 :
That’s the go-to. And growing up, I mean… Look what happened in New York in the late 80s. The rabbi, the grand rabbi’s motorcade killed a little black kid and they had five days of riots going after the Jews. They killed a Jewish man who was just walking home from work. So it’s like their favorite. And I’m not saying it’s it’s like if we need a scapegoat, we’re going to blame the Jews first. And I don’t know. How do we stop that, John?
SPEAKER 12 :
You don’t. You don’t.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, with knowledge and information and everything.
SPEAKER 12 :
And I’m not trying to be coy, but no, this is a good versus evil thing, John, and the reality is no, you don’t. Sorry, you can’t.
SPEAKER 15 :
All you can do is mock it, and I do. For the second coming of Christ.
SPEAKER 12 :
It’s so stupid. You can’t, John. It is what it is.
SPEAKER 10 :
No. You can’t, but you have to stand up to it. Yeah, still fight it.
SPEAKER 12 :
I mean, I’m not saying we don’t still do something about it, but can you end it? No. This is good versus evil.
SPEAKER 10 :
Not until, like you said, the second coming.
SPEAKER 15 :
I just, John, I think it’s a really good thing we have TSA to keep all these Jews from taking down those planes.
SPEAKER 12 :
Oh, yeah. I’m pretty worried.
SPEAKER 10 :
You know, the same thing. You know, what was the last time You saw a march by the Jewish people that ended in a riot.
SPEAKER 12 :
You don’t. Doesn’t exist.
SPEAKER 10 :
No, it doesn’t. They don’t. But it’s okay that Hamas and their Palestinian supporters march, take over buildings.
SPEAKER 12 :
BLM on down the line we go, John.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, and they are not held accountable for it.
SPEAKER 12 :
Correct.
SPEAKER 10 :
Oh, by the way, John, thanks for rubbing it in about a nice day. We had 50 miles an hour winds for the last 24 hours.
SPEAKER 12 :
We had a little bit this morning, but then it went away and became nice.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, you’re lucky. No, it hasn’t got out of the 20s up here yet. But every bit of snow we got on the weekend, about five inches, is all in Nebraska. Oh, good point. Completely gone. That’s where to send it. Huh?
SPEAKER 15 :
That’s where to send it. Good job.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yep. You know why the wind blows in Wyoming, Andy, right?
SPEAKER 12 :
Because Nebraska sucks.
SPEAKER 10 :
It sucks.
SPEAKER 1 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 10 :
You might get some calls.
SPEAKER 12 :
Probably will. We have a lot of Nebraska listeners. That was a joke. That was a joke.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yes, we’re joking because we’re enjoying day one of the new administration.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yes, there we go. John, appreciate you, man. Have a good one, man. Appreciate you. Dan and Blackhawk, go ahead.
SPEAKER 22 :
So you can tell, John, I’ve been dealing with 60-mile-an-hour winds up in Blackhawk.
SPEAKER 12 :
Okay. Is it done yet?
SPEAKER 22 :
And the snow doesn’t blow into Nebraska. It blows into my driveway.
SPEAKER 15 :
It does. I’m telling you what, and, you know, for those who don’t know, I worked in Blackhawk for quite a few years. When the wind howls through there coming down that canyon, it is unreal.
SPEAKER 22 :
Yeah. I mean, we had probably four to six inches Friday night, Saturday afternoon. And it wasn’t warm enough to melt the snow, so we got the wind last night and all it does. I’ve got to figure out how to do the snow fence, but I woke up this morning and I had two-foot drifts in my driveway.
SPEAKER 12 :
Never fun.
SPEAKER 22 :
Five inches of snow. Yeah.
SPEAKER 12 :
Never fun. Welcome to eastern Colorado.
SPEAKER 1 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 22 :
So anyways, but that’s okay because it drifts it in areas and then when springtime comes, we’ve got the snow melt.
SPEAKER 12 :
We could be in Florida where it’s snowing.
SPEAKER 22 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 12 :
Which it is.
SPEAKER 15 :
I wonder if they really, if they think, oh, this is horrible, or they think, you know, this is kind of cool.
SPEAKER 12 :
We never get this. That’s just weird.
SPEAKER 22 :
We had somebody who’s from the south, from Mississippi, that moved here. She showed me a picture of one of her friends, or her daughter’s fiancé took some Mrs. Dash. salt and we’re putting it on the snow.
SPEAKER 12 :
Oh my word. Put a little bit of dash on there. There we go. Good stuff. Holy cow. That’s hilarious.
SPEAKER 22 :
I saw the picture of the snow and it was like a half inch.
SPEAKER 12 :
That’s hilarious.
SPEAKER 22 :
They’re like, what am I going to do?
SPEAKER 12 :
Drive.
SPEAKER 22 :
Wait till tomorrow. Don’t worry.
SPEAKER 12 :
Drive. That’s hilarious.
SPEAKER 22 :
They don’t know what to do. Yeah, they don’t. No, no.
SPEAKER 12 :
You got it. New Orleans, same thing. They don’t know what to do.
SPEAKER 15 :
You know, I will say the one thing, though. Down there, they let their tires run all the way down, so they may not have the best tread for this. Might want to stay home.
SPEAKER 22 :
Yeah, well, they do. I mean, what’s a day? It’s an extra day, right? Why not? Yeah, so anyways, going back to Mr. Gates… You know, he thinks the world’s population is too… Oh, yes.
SPEAKER 12 :
There’s too many people. Oh, yes, it’s an overpopulation.
SPEAKER 22 :
So even though he’s talking about AIDS, the reason why, and I may be wrong, but his motivation is to make sure that people die. And so even though he could do the technology for glass, make it fireproof or, you know, whatever, he doesn’t care.
SPEAKER 11 :
Right, you’re right.
SPEAKER 22 :
He’s probably happy that those people lost their homes and they lost their livelihood, and he hopes that they eventually die in poverty.
SPEAKER 15 :
Because he doesn’t care. You know, I do worry about anybody whose big concern is overpopulation. I always worry about those types.
SPEAKER 22 :
Yeah. I mean, if he really wanted to, he could work on the wells in Africa to make sure that they have clean water in Africa. All sorts of things he could do. And down South America. But he doesn’t. You know, because that would only help people survive and thrive.
SPEAKER 12 :
The guy has more wealth than the GDP of most countries.
SPEAKER 22 :
Yeah. And the thing is, how many people… in those impoverished nations, if they were actually healthy, could contribute to maybe solving some of the quote-unquote world’s problems.
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, and it’s not like left-wingers can’t do it. I mean, Taylor Swift is a big left-winger, right? Gave a million dollars to help people in North Carolina, and she gives a lot of money to help a lot of people in need. You know, you can do it. You don’t have to just all the time say it’s my agenda or nothing. Right.
SPEAKER 22 :
Right. Well, it was funny because I read the, what is it, the Sweaty Penguin?
SPEAKER 11 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 22 :
And he had an article where, of all places, Colorado, so the Department of Transportation, NUREL, and some other agency are working together to try to lessen the carbon imprint of air travel. And they’re looking at such things as as hydrogen fuel, electric fuel. It’s a ways off, right? But they’re intergovernmental agencies trying to work on a solution instead of being in a silo approach to things. So it was interesting to read that. So, you know, there’s part of the global warming stuff that’s in there. And I’m like, okay, I guess. But what about, you know, they forget, well, we do have a higher population, but when we were burning campfires to keep warm, that was putting smoke and stuff into the environment. And they keep talking about CO2. I think it’s carbon monoxide, not CO2, because what do the forests, what do trees do?
SPEAKER 12 :
Oh, no, they don’t like CO2 either, although it’s good for us, but they don’t like it. It’s tree food, and they don’t like it.
SPEAKER 15 :
I don’t know what they have against trees eating, but.
SPEAKER 22 :
Well, but CO2, the trees take the CO2 and turn it into oxygen and then they turn that carbon into either, you know, they grow based on the carbon and then they die and that carbon is released back into the environment. It’s like, so CO2, they claim that CO2 is a bad thing, but I’m like, we breathe CO2.
SPEAKER 12 :
Right.
SPEAKER 22 :
Or we exhale CO2. Right.
SPEAKER 12 :
They contradict themselves in a lot of things. And again, Dan, we have experts on and dispel a lot of those things on a regular basis, and the majority of quote-unquote climate experts can’t argue with this stuff.
SPEAKER 15 :
John, it’s like you always say. Their goal isn’t to fix anything. It’s to control human beings. That’s right.
SPEAKER 12 :
That’s all it is.
SPEAKER 22 :
Yeah. So there’s logically thinking, which most people can’t because they’re told what to think in school. They’re not taught to think in school.
SPEAKER 12 :
Very true.
SPEAKER 22 :
They’re just taught this is what you’re supposed to think. And the people that, I mean, to tell you the truth, the first president I voted for was Ronald Reagan. Me too. And so back in 76, I think I was like in sixth grade. I think you’re a year ahead of me, John. But in 76, my elementary held a mock election during Ford Carter. And I voted for Carter. And then the next four years, I saw our country go to hell in a handbasket, so to speak.
SPEAKER 11 :
Right.
SPEAKER 22 :
And that swung me. I’m never, I shouldn’t say never, but that changed my thinking about what these people were doing. But I was in sixth grade thinking these things through. And so my parents probably had some influence, but I think my influence was just my voting record made me realize I voted for the wrong candidate. And even though I was in sixth grade, you know, I still could recognize it. Yeah, I recognized it. And I’m like, so when I was able to vote for Reagan, and that was in 84, I voted for him.
SPEAKER 12 :
Very cool.
SPEAKER 22 :
I was glad that he won. I appreciate it, Dan.
SPEAKER 12 :
Always good. Good stuff. Appreciate that very much. And, yeah, good thing he didn’t actually vote for Jimmy Carter. Not that it mattered. He won anyways.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, he did.
SPEAKER 12 :
Which, what a disaster. Oh, gosh. Okay, so we’ve got a minute before we go to break. Who’s worse, Biden or Carter? Biden, but not on the same level.
SPEAKER 15 :
Biden because he was forced to be even worse. Carter did more damage directly to the economy, of course.
SPEAKER 12 :
Only because it was smaller then.
SPEAKER 15 :
Right. The economy could more easily be damaged. You didn’t need as big a wrecking ball back then. Correct.
SPEAKER 12 :
And we didn’t have the oil that we have today.
SPEAKER 15 :
Honestly, if you want to say who did the deepest damage of our time, it was Obama.
SPEAKER 12 :
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SPEAKER 12 :
And we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. A couple of minutes left in this hour. Don’t forget, we’ll be back for another full hour. And no guests, just me, Andy, and I. We’ve got plenty to talk about today, given everything that has happened here of late.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 12 :
We’re going to have a lot to talk about, period.
SPEAKER 15 :
Okay, sum it up. Going forward, over the next two years… You know what? Let me do something. I think the Democrats have a problem in 2026. I’m going to explain it very quickly. California. The Democrats came really close to taking the House because they, right at the last second, took back several seats in California in the House. Barely. Like in the less than 1% range.
SPEAKER 12 :
They have issues now.
SPEAKER 15 :
With everything that just happened in California, do you think they hold those in 2026? I do not.
SPEAKER 12 :
I will be surprised because, as I’ve said many times, they think this fire stuff goes away right away. They have no idea the repercussions and the things that they’ll now be going through in that particular area of the state for literally the next five to ten years.
SPEAKER 15 :
I believe they could lose three House seats in Southern California as a result.
SPEAKER 12 :
And possibly their governorship.
SPEAKER 15 :
To a Republican?
SPEAKER 12 :
Possibly, Andy. Or maybe a more conservative Democrat. Well, definitely it will be more conservative than Newsom, for sure, because that guy’s done. I mean, anything like him will be done. He’s done. Because they’re going to want change and reform and see things done differently when it comes to some of the stuff they’ve just gone through.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, ordinarily when you see California Highway 1, you see at night all these car lights going for miles. Those are now torches and pitchforks.
SPEAKER 12 :
Coming up toward him. When you’ve got celebrities even talking about not being happy, Andy, because you know how wolf they are.
SPEAKER 15 :
Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER 12 :
That’s a problem, because if they are, all of the others that are even halfway that way are definitely that way now. Agreed. All right, another full hour coming your way. Like I said a moment ago, don’t go anywhere. We’ll be right back. Myself, Andy, and Charlie, this is Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
SPEAKER 1 :
Thank you.
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I’m a rich guy.
