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All right, Hour 3, Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Myself, Andy Pate, Charlie Grime, Daniel Turner joining us now, Power of the Future. Daniel, welcome back. How are you?
SPEAKER 04 :
Hey, it’s great to be on with you. Thanks for having me back.
SPEAKER 17 :
Always a joy. And let’s talk a little bit about, I was talking in the last hour about artificial intelligence and where things are headed and different things along those lines and how to tell us something is real or fake. But the bottom line is AI is here. It’s going to continue to grow. We have to power that, by the way. How are we going to do that?
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, exactly. And we are going to need roughly three times the amount of electricity we currently produce. if AI is going to continue in the trajectory that we anticipated to go.
SPEAKER 17 :
Okay, and really, for everybody listening, I mean, I think both Andy and I understand why. I’m not sure, though, that every person out there listening right now really understands why is AI bringing this problem of needing more power.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, that’s a great question. So back in, you know, when I was a kid and you had a question, you needed the answer. You went to the card catalog and you found the book in the library and you got it out. You looked up the answer required no electricity. Right. It was pretty easy. Now, when you use the Google, right, you jump on your laptop and you use Google. it uses a very small percentage of electricity but obviously your laptop is powered your laptop is connected to the internet the internet is connected to a whole bunch of servers somewhere in america that’s finding out the answer to that question what is the capital of romania and you do a google search right now when you use something like chat gpt or artificial intelligence Hey, could you write me a poem for the hosts of Rush to Reason, but do it in the style of Edgar Allan Poe? Those are the funny things that we use ChatGTP for. That uses around 15 times more electricity. than that Google search. So you’re using a tremendous amount of all those servers that are cranking out all this information, that are looking at Edgar Allan Poe and analyzing it for a style, and looking up Rush to Reason, and finding things about you guys to make a funny little poem, and it does that in four and a half seconds, but a tremendous amount of electricity. Now, when we feed those computers things like, analyze this genome for me and determine if if there’s a proclivity towards cancer, right? Those are the great things that artificial intelligence is going to do for us. But hundreds of thousands of kilowatt hours of electricity to do something that a bunch of scientists could do, right? But you need thousands of scientists for thousands of hours, and you’re going to get that answer eventually. The computer’s going to do it faster, right? But the power to do it is extraordinary.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, and a great way to explain it, and for everybody listening, it’s because those server farms that are doing all of this high-power computing, which, by the way, Daniel, as you know, the chip power that’s there is astronomical. You know, NVIDIA, others that are making… you know chips for these machines and the amount of power even though for for those of you listening there’s even now to cool the chips because that computing power and what’s happening in the chip creates so much heat and Dan you know what I’m going where I’m going with this even the cooling systems required to do what we’re talking about on the computing side, and just not talking about what the computer and the chip itself does, but what it takes to keep the temperature even to even make that happen, that is requiring X amount of power to make happen, meaning it just continues to compound, I guess you could say, astronomically.
SPEAKER 09 :
It’s a great point, and this is where we need our policymakers and our leaders to be somewhat intelligent. And surprise, surprise. That’s the problem. That is a huge problem. So the average data center for artificial intelligence, and I think America has about 500 built centers. in the last couple of years. We’re on roughly 500 data centers. The average data center uses the equivalent of water to cool, water and electricity of 100,000 homes. Now that’s extraordinary. When you think of a development in your neighborhood, you know, old man Johnson died and the kids sold the farm to a developer and they put up 60 houses and you say, whoa, that’s a lot of cars, that’s a lot of electricity, that’s a lot more people in the neighborhood, those 60 houses. Imagine 100,000 houses, but the server center, the data center, you know, is maybe only an acre footprint. So you don’t really feel the amount of water and electricity. I’ll tell you where I live, which is in rural Virginia. My great state of Virginia has a third of the data centers in America are in Virginia. And Virginia has a huge water and electricity problem. And now suddenly people are saying, well, we must be in a drought because of climate change. And I say, no, we’re in a drought because we built the equivalent of 20 million homes in Virginia, and no one has given us any more darn water.
SPEAKER 17 :
Because make sure I’m equating this correctly, which I just did the math while you were talking. Those 500 centers are the equivalent of 50 million homes. Am I correct?
SPEAKER 09 :
bingo, of 50 million homes using water and electricity. That’s a lot of water and electricity. And so as we’re building these data centers and we’re talking about AI, it’s very important. I totally get it. We want to be ahead of China. We want to win the AI revolution. It’s like a space race, right? Bingo. But there are there are infrastructure problems that we need to wrestle with. And when we are putting these up, are we doing the water and the electricity? I love my governor in Virginia. I think Glenn Youngkin’s done a great job. He’s attracted a lot of business to Virginia. But I haven’t seen a new power plant be built. I haven’t seen a new. We’re putting the cart before the horse, right, Daniel? Exactly.
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And we never build those things until we panic ourselves into them.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, that’s a great point. And that’s what I meant when I say our elected officials need to start being intelligent. Because, you know, you run for office saying, I’m going to attract data centers and revenue. Who runs for office saying, I’m going to build water infrastructure? That’s so boring. That’s like being the governor of California saying, I’m going to do forest management. No one runs on forest management. And then when the forests burn, you blame climate change.
SPEAKER 17 :
This is where you bring up a great topic, Daniel, that Andy and I probably even come back and talk a little bit more on once we let you go. But this has been my complaint with the majority of politicians, city council-wise. statewide, going all the way up to the federal level, the reality is there are, and I mean this as sincerely as I can, the reality is the majority of people that sit in office, I’m not joking, Daniel, if the cell phone doesn’t work or the laptop doesn’t turn on, they’ve got to call somebody to help them get through that because their intelligence level on the items that you and I are talking about right now is nil.
SPEAKER 09 :
100%. And that’s a big problem when it is our water systems and our electricity systems that are being used for the larger good of data centers. And I welcome technology. I welcome progress and development, of course. But when my state is being compromised because we are building data centers left and right and there’s no infrastructure plan, and that’s a big problem we’re facing. There aren’t a lot of infrastructure plans for data. water systems or electricity systems.
SPEAKER 07 :
I mean, hypothetically, where would you even get that much water? I mean, obviously you can’t use, I mean, saltwater, coastal. No. So where are you going to in Virginia suddenly get that much of an increase in water?
SPEAKER 09 :
You know, the only thing I can think of is desalination plants. And I look at Israel, which I’ve been to before.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yep, they do it well.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yep. Bingo. And I think that’s what California needs to do, too. We don’t have a water shortage problem in America. And I know there’s a lot of arguments over the Columbia and the Snake and the Colorado River. We don’t have a water problem and we don’t have droughts and it’s not climate change. What it is is the same river, which has been flowing the same way for millions of years. now suddenly has 18, 20, 100 million people attached to it.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, and we’ve not built to your point. We didn’t think ahead of time on storage and proper use of, and not necessarily conservation, but Daniel, just proper use of. We didn’t do that very well in the beginning because we felt like we had more than we ever needed.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, exactly. You look at places like Lake Mead or Lake Powell, which are those man-made lakes in the great American West. When they were built, the population was 180, 200,000 people. The populations now are in the tens of millions. And so they look at those lakes and they say, this is climate change. No, it’s not. It’s overusage. It’s people. It’s overusage. And unless we start thinking about bringing in huge pipes from the Great Lakes, We’re bringing in huge pipes from the mountains. Unless we start building reservoirs in our… I mean, the Rocky Mountains got a lot of snow. Some infrastructure project, an actual reservoir up there somewhere. But I start thinking that way where we’re getting a little ahead of ourselves on this infrastructure failure when it comes to AI.
SPEAKER 17 :
And the problem, Daniel, is a lot of what you said has been talked about in states like ours, but you get the environmental movements, the wackadoodles that are out there that literally will shut down things. We’ve got a dam project here in Colorado on the Front Range, Gross Dam. It’s in the Boulder area. county area and they got approved years and years ago and it was been a big battle army corps of engineers and so on they actually gave them approval to raise the dam i believe it’s 300 plus feet giving us that much more capacity of water that’s it’s denver water actually that owns the the water rights to that and they’re the ones that are actually building it they got approval to build it but it’s been a constant battle even is currently luckily the trump administration has come in and some of their officials have said yep you guys are going to continue on get that thing finished We want to see it done, but it’s still a continual legal battle to get those things done, to your point.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, look at California, what they did with their water and not using it and what happened when the fires hit. Go ahead, Daniel.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, and Governor Newsom has slated to tear down three current existing dams. I don’t know if President Trump will now allow him or the government will try to step in at the federal level, but he’s on the record saying that there are three dams he wants to tear down for those same environmental reasons. And you start talking about Native American communities and endangered fish, and suddenly reason says, rushes right out the door, right? And how are we going to survive as a people? How are we going to survive in our current quality of life without these infrastructure projects? And again, they’re not the fun and sexy things. And there are big elections happening all over the country this year and then obviously next year’s midterms. And we’re always talking about the big titillating issues. We’re talking about transgender, and those are important, don’t get me wrong. We talk about guns, and that’s important, don’t get me wrong. But there are some really boring, perfunctory issues, like infrastructure, like roads, like water, and we ignore them to our detriment. Can’t argue that.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, make water infrastructure great again just isn’t pithy.
SPEAKER 09 :
It is not. It is not. But, boy, do we need it.
SPEAKER 07 :
We do.
SPEAKER 09 :
Otherwise, you know, these data centers will find another place to go. And whether it’s communist China. You’re right. Any other country is trying to lure them out of America. And if we lose the data centers and the AI race, we’re screwed.
SPEAKER 17 :
You’re right. No. Daniel, you are spot on. Power of the future. How do folks find you?
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Powerofthefuture.com. It’s always great to be on with you guys. Thank you so much for having me back. Likewise, Daniel.
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SPEAKER 17 :
All right. We are back. Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. And just I want to dovetail into what Daniel was talking about. As we said, we would we would continue this on. And this has been one of my biggest complaints with the majority of politicians, including some that I have a ton of respect for. I think they’re very brilliant individuals, unfortunately. They’re very brilliant at some things and very dumb in others. Yeah. And unfortunately, we have got people from both sides of the aisle that are making decisions on some of the things we just talked about in regards to technology, like Daniel was talking about a moment ago. And I’m not exaggerating that, frankly, when their cell phone doesn’t work properly, they’re calling an aide to get it to work. And I’m not exaggerating when I say that.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, too many politicians make these grand sweeping statements. Let’s do this big thing. And they don’t think of any of the logistics that are going to be needed to support it.
SPEAKER 17 :
Because they don’t know, Andy.
SPEAKER 07 :
They’re clueless. Yeah, and we were talking off air. We were just talking about all the water that you would need just to regulate to cool these things. What about the energy itself? You need to unleash coal and nuclear. and obviously natural gas you need to unleash those things if you want to get anywhere near the uh electricity needs that democrats want to power their utopia right okay right they want to power their utopia And I’m telling them, look, guys, if you try doing that on wind and solar, you’re out of your mind.
SPEAKER 17 :
It’s not going to happen.
SPEAKER 07 :
No.
SPEAKER 17 :
Not enough there. It’s not going to happen, Andy.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah. Coal, nuclear, natural gas. You need those. You need a lot of those. You need them right now. Do it. Okay. And by the way, natural gas burns clean. Coal burns far cleaner here than it does overseas. And we’ve gotten it much better. Nuclear is clean. Come on, guys. But they fight it every step of the way.
SPEAKER 17 :
I know. And again, folks, one of the biggest complaints I’ve had with politicians in general, both sides of the aisle, locally, statewide, nationally, is the reality is most politicians, they’ve got some sort of ability, pizzazz, fundraising ability, whatever it might be, Andy, the right charisma to become an elected official. Right. But their knowledge level when it comes to some of the things that we’re talking about, actual real infrastructure, policy things that need to be made on every level, they don’t have the foggiest idea how that stuff works.
SPEAKER 07 :
John, we have to keep in mind there’s a reason that America is pushing $40 trillion in debt here pretty soon, and that is feel good you can sell in a soundbite.
SPEAKER 17 :
is good long-term good takes time people don’t listen for time for a very long time and that’s a real problem we have with america today the problem isn’t just the politicians it’s the audience right and folks again i’m not trying to be critical of any individual politicians but i guarantee you i could take virtually i don’t think this would be too far-fetched andy i think i could take virtually any politician on our side from ted cruz to lauren bobert right and sit down and have a conversation on the technical aspects of what Daniel and I just had a conversation on, and neither one of them would have any idea of the amount of things involved as to what Daniel and I and you just talked about.
SPEAKER 07 :
I totally agree, but I’ll give both of them credit to this. Both of those two people you just said would listen to Daniel.
SPEAKER 17 :
I agree. And that’s the beauty of it. I agree. My feeling, though, is, and this is what I want to see changed, I want people that are actually on the ground in Washington that don’t have to go to an advisor to find out how to do X, Y, Z. I want people that actually understand how it works. That would be nice. And I know that’s utopia on my end, Andy, because very few people that understand that want to run for office. I get that. But I really wish we had some folks on the ground in not only D.C., but our own capital that understood some of these things and not listening to advisors and lobbyists on how this should work.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, and I wish we could go into this example. We do not have time, but Trump. Trump understands tariffs far, far, far better than most people who fancy themselves to be economists.
SPEAKER 17 :
True. Talked about that yesterday.
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, you did?
SPEAKER 17 :
A little bit.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, then you’re way ahead of the game because, look, he understands the very fact that he understands why we have to do this.
SPEAKER 17 :
Andy, I said yesterday that the problem with most experts on tariffs, even some that are here locally running talk shows, they’ve never written a payroll check. These are people that think they know how they work, and they think they understand the premise of that, frankly, again, have never employed anyone.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, and let me take it a step higher. Not only have they not written payroll checks, John, they’ve never engaged in high-level negotiations. You see, here’s the whole reason, if I may. Can I have a minute on this? Yeah, we got time. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 17 :
We got plenty of time. Go for it.
SPEAKER 07 :
Folks, for all those who look at Trump’s tariff strategy and wonder, oh my gosh, is this a big risk? First of all, the big risk is not doing it because things were getting worse and worse and worse. He already headed down the wrong path. Oh, we were hemorrhaging jobs and industries overseas left and right. Okay, that was a guarantee. Now, the only… negotiating leverage. And the best negotiating leverage that an American president has is the American consumer. Right. That’s your number one leverage. You have to look overseas and to all these other countries and say, I will keep you from the American consumer.
SPEAKER 17 :
Right. We’re the biggest buyer.
SPEAKER 07 :
We are the biggest buyer. That is your leverage. Now, we’ve had a whole string of presidents, some good, some bad, but all of them never used that leverage. In the time, over the last several decades of them never using that leverage, what has happened? Every single other country has escalated. Spurns out of control. tariff after tariff after tariff and they’ve been building upon each other to where now we’ve gotten it to where we can barely sell anything overseas and to other countries okay now this president is coming in and saying we have to use that leverage there is no way you can do that without short-term pain my only concern is not his strategy i think his strategy if the american people hypothetically hypothetically If the American people were to look at Donald Trump as one and say, we will take the short-term pain for the long-term gain, then I would absolutely guarantee 100%, no risk whatsoever, that he would bring in far better trade deals across the board and a much better future for America. Guaranteed. The risk is not his strategy. It is the American people.
SPEAKER 17 :
I agree. Agree. They don’t have the wherewithal for the pain.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right. Will they agree to be leveraged? And we have to be. And by the way, it’s working quickly.
SPEAKER 17 :
I know, Andy, but I’m with you. I’ve always wondered or have wondered, do we as Americans have the wherewithal to withstand any kind of, you know, I’ve explained it like a family that has to have some budget cuts. Hey, guys, guess what? Dad’s not getting the kind of hours he once did. Mom doesn’t have the ability to go to work because I’m helping raise you guys. So the reality is we’ve only got X amount of money to go around. We’re going to have to make some cuts, budgetarily speaking, until we get through this particular time. And by the way, Andy, no family, no kid wants to hear what I just said.
SPEAKER 07 :
John, the first guy who’s come along to do any real budget cuts, people are burning his cars. Right. Okay. I know. Think about this. I know. America has put almost $40 trillion that it has spent of its children’s money so that we could float our own economy today. This is how stupid America is. And so while I look at Donald Trump, I know his strategy is right. There is no question his strategy is right. The only way we can lower their tariffs on us. is through the threat of tariffs on them.
SPEAKER 17 :
Pain on their side.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right. They must be.
SPEAKER 17 :
Have to pain them.
SPEAKER 07 :
Exactly. They must lose the American consumer. He must leverage the American consumer. His strategy is absolutely positively guaranteed to be right and to work.
SPEAKER 17 :
And you’re seeing that in regards to even the Canadian prime minister, the new one, being here today talking to Trump and some of those conversations and even what China’s starting to do and China having to prop up their own economy because of what’s happening and the fact that the Chinese people are somewhat revolting because they don’t like what’s happening. They’re cult. The reality is that we can withstand this. Even we as customers, we as consumers, we can withstand this longer than any other country can, Andy.
SPEAKER 07 :
Exactly. Why is China collapsing right now? Now, they’ve had other problems, obviously. But what’s really put them over the cliff? They’re losing the American consumer.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, we are their biggest customer.
SPEAKER 07 :
But this is the first president who says, I’m actually going to play that card. I’m going to play that leverage. OK. And so I wish I could look at all of America. But I realize when I look out in America and I look at them and I say, guys, if you just wait through the short term pain, the long term gain is not an if, maybe or might. It’s guaranteed. But I want to look out in America and say that. But what the America that looks back at me is America is so stupid that it’s put itself 40 trillion in debt.
SPEAKER 17 :
The only thing I wish that Trump would add into this, and I know we’ve talked about this a lot, I did a little bit of this yesterday and even Thursday, is – and I know, I’m a states’ rights guy.
SPEAKER 08 :
Me too.
SPEAKER 17 :
And I don’t want Trump just making a blanket statement that we’re going to make states do X, Y, Z. But I really wish there was some conversation where even Trump would be saying, listen – I know – even saying it like I just – listen, I believe in states’ rights. And I understand that each state has the right to try to attract different businesses to it and so on. And I understand that that can be different from Oklahoma to Colorado to Texas to Wyoming to Nebraska to Virginia. I get that. And I understand that each state is going to do things a little bit differently. But – collectively, I’m going to bring all the governors together, and I want to figure out ways to whereby we can fast-track different projects in this country so that somebody wanting to come in and build a plant in XYZ state doesn’t have to jump through three years’ worth of studies before they even put a shovel in the ground.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right.
SPEAKER 17 :
I want to figure out a way for that. I want to figure out a way as a country where we can fast track these things and not have these huge delays that a lot of local municipalities and states and so on, you know, put upon those particular people wanting to do that.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, but here’s the problem, John. The Democrats don’t want Trump to have fast success.
SPEAKER 17 :
I know they don’t.
SPEAKER 07 :
They want to hold him up.
SPEAKER 17 :
They don’t want the development either, Andy. Right. That’s the other problem you’ve got. They don’t want that.
SPEAKER 07 :
I mean, look, what does it do to America to have California ban offshore drilling? There is so much oil off their shores. Right. And they’re keeping that from America. Right. They shouldn’t have the right to do that. Well, it states rights. Now, whoa, whoa, wait a minute. That’s America.
SPEAKER 17 :
And so it affects the entire nation.
SPEAKER 07 :
And it does.
SPEAKER 17 :
Right. Well, I agree. For example, I’ll give you another situation where I don’t feel like states rights Trump what’s going on federally. That’s the whole Second Amendment. Agreed. Absolutely. I don’t think that Colorado should have the right to pass the law that it just passed, even though it’s a state’s rights thing. Right. I believe that federally, the Constitution, the Second Amendment itself, trumps, pardon the pun, but trumps everything else coast to coast, even municipalities when, you know, city of Denver having its own gun control laws, for example, that that federal Second Amendment, quote unquote, constitutional, you know, supremacy. Right. Right. Trump’s everything else, and I’m one of these that feels like no state, no city should be able to pass anything Second Amendment-wise, period, because the Constitution already says I have the right to bear arms. Agreed. And that should be a federal thing. By the way, even including the right to carry should be reciprocal from coast to coast, period, because that should be a federal thing, not a state thing. Yeah, absolutely. That’s where I look at this and say, yeah, I believe in states’ rights, except for when it comes to the good of either your rights overall or what’s good for the country.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right. I totally agree. Does that make sense? Yeah. I think it’s absolutely criminal for states like Colorado to take away people’s Second Amendment rights and limit them to that degree. It shouldn’t even be discussed.
SPEAKER 17 :
Right. And the reason why I feel different about that than, say, abortion is because abortion is not a right, quote-unquote, like the Second Amendment is. True. Does that make sense? Yeah. Okay. We’ll come back and talk more about that because I want to make sure that we’re clear on that. And the reality is, again— Yes, I would love to see Trump figure out ways where, communicatively speaking, he can start talking about how we want to attract some of these industries and businesses back here and do it in such a way that we can fast-track things so we’re not looking at a four- to five-year time frame on bringing some of these jobs back to America. Roof Savers of Colorado up next. Right now in this storm that we’ve got, if you’ve got any leaks, anything going on with your roof, it’s all under one roof. Roof Savers of Colorado, 303-710-6916.
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SPEAKER 17 :
All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. Myself, Andy Pate, Charlie Grimes. And, yeah, again, folks, just going back through some of what we were talking about in regards to politicians and their knowledge level and tariffs and where is Trump at and all of those different things. And I hope. and pray that the American public have the fortitude, Andy, to stick with this long enough to see us through. I also would like to see Trump because I think, by the way, it would help. This is my point with what I was saying earlier about Trump maybe communicating a little bit differently on, listen, we want to try to fast track even some of these people bringing things back and so on. I think if people realize that, wait a minute, the left is telling me that what Trump’s talking about is a five-year plan, but if it’s a two-year plan and we can get jobs back in the matter of 12 to 18 to 24 months, okay, guess what? I’ll take a little bit of pain right now to have that happen. I think we need to communicate that better is my point. Right.
SPEAKER 07 :
How long is the pain going to be? Correct. And here’s how long I think the pain is going to be, 6 to 12 months max. I don’t think there are any countries out there that can handle tariffs like this any longer than 6 to 12.
SPEAKER 17 :
Some can’t go that long, Andy.
SPEAKER 07 :
I know they can’t. Some can’t go a month. There are some who need relief now. I’m just saying, I’m trying to think of the ones who can wait longer.
SPEAKER 17 :
China being one of those, by the way. The only thing that gives them the ability to go longer is because they will lie. falsify data, which they’re already doing, by the way, not report what’s really going on inside of the country. That’s what they’ll do.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right, because they don’t care about the oppression of their people. Correct. They do that for breakfast.
SPEAKER 10 :
Correct.
SPEAKER 07 :
But also another thing China can do is, because they are so expansive around the globe, they can connect with other countries and make deals to a point. Can they replace the American consumer, though? No, they cannot. This is why we have to leverage.
SPEAKER 17 :
And let me let me expand on that, Andy, because what you just said is is true. And I think I hope China understands this. You combine a lot of other countries. You go through the list of countries that, you know, have have a solid GDP, for example, which let’s remind everybody ours is around twenty eight trillion. China’s is about $17 trillion. The next closest to that is Germany at $4 trillion. Right. So if China wants to replace our $28 trillion, they literally have to spread their goods around to a lot of countries, which, by the way— Countries who are already buying from other places. That are already buying from other places that also have the consumer base willing to buy said goods because, frankly, there’s a lot of other countries that don’t look too highly on cheap Chinese crap.
SPEAKER 1 :
Right.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, it’s not just that, John. So many of these other countries are already buying from other countries. Well, and in some cases, buying different products. Right. America is a rabid consumer.
SPEAKER 17 :
Correct. We buy crap all the time, Andy. We buy, buy, buy, buy, buy, buy, buy, buy, buy.
SPEAKER 07 :
We buy crap we don’t need, Andy. Okay, I got news for you. Other countries don’t do that. France doesn’t buy like us. No. Okay, it’s just the way it is. Nicaragua doesn’t buy like us. It’s just the way it is. Andy, we can go down the list.
SPEAKER 17 :
The Brits, the Germans, the Italians, on down the line we go. None of them buy like we do.
SPEAKER 07 :
This is why, in my opinion, and this is going to sound bad, and I hope I don’t get us in trouble for saying this. But in my opinion, it is almost criminal that the last several presidents have not leveraged the American consumer. I would agree with you. In trade negotiations.
SPEAKER 17 :
I would agree with you on that.
SPEAKER 07 :
It is incredible that all these other presidents did not look at the rest of the world and say, look, you want access to the American consumer. You’ve got to give us a better deal because right now we can’t sell anything anywhere. OK, not nearly enough. We can’t sell nearly enough stuff. You can’t have 100 percent, 150 percent, 40 percent, 80 percent tariffs on this product, that product, another product. You can’t be doing that to all our products. And me still as the American president look at you and say, oh, you can still have full access to the American consumer. And that is what every single president has done until this one. There is no risk in his plan. There’s only risk in our stomach for the early days of the plan.
SPEAKER 17 :
Well, and again, Andy, I think it’s something that, again, you don’t hear any of this talked about in the media at all, frankly, because I don’t think most people think through some of what Andy and I were even talking about a moment ago, which is the simple fact of what we buy. versus what other countries buy. And if China wants to go peddle its goods around the world, the problem is they don’t have the same consumer base. Even if these countries are buying, let’s take Germany, for example, $4 trillion a year. Are they buying the same type of goods, Andy, that we are? No, they’re not. No, they’re not. We like what China sells. Not every other country does, Andy.
SPEAKER 07 :
You know, it’s kind of like this, John. What’s your favorite food to go out for?
SPEAKER 17 :
Oh, I don’t know. I love all, you know me, I’m fat. I love all food. Okay, well, let’s say… Mexican food, let’s say.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay, you love Mexican food. Okay, guess what? Mexican restaurants can really market to John.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 07 :
There are other kinds of restaurants, Indian food restaurants, probably can’t market to John quite as well. Probably not quite as well. You know, I know you like some of it. I like all of them anyway. Well, you like curry. I get it. But you know what I mean? There are people who are not John… who they can’t market to, okay? They want John as their market.
SPEAKER 17 :
If you’re somebody that doesn’t like spicy foods, the Mexican restaurant’s not going to market to them well.
SPEAKER 07 :
So if I were to tell these restaurants, you are going to lose all the John rushes out there. You’re going to lose all of them if you don’t cut a better deal. Guess what? They’re going to cut a better deal.
SPEAKER 17 :
Right, because they can’t go without that customer.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right. Right. We are the best customer in the world. And I got news for you. Every president until now looked at that customer and said this. I got to keep cheap stuff coming in the short term always or they’re going to vote me out. And this is the first president who had the guts to look at us and say, you know what, guys, you better take a little pain right now or you’re going to lose all your jobs.
SPEAKER 17 :
And I’m going to say this and I mean this. Trump did a little bit of this the last time, actually did a lot of it, not to the extent that he’s doing it now. But he did some of this the last time he was president. But keep in mind that we had eight years of Obama and four years of Biden that were in the back pocket of the Chinese. Yeah. Literally. That’s why they didn’t do it, because they were their puppets. And I mean that sincerely. Joe Biden, especially. Oh, yes. Absolutely. In the back pocket of the Chinese.
SPEAKER 07 :
Literally owned by the Chinese.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yes. And I would go as far as to say Obama wasn’t far off of that.
SPEAKER 07 :
I would agree. Not as bad as Biden, but yeah, definitely.
SPEAKER 17 :
And what I mean in the back pocket of doing what the Chinese want so you can get them to play ball the way you feel like they need to play ball. We’ll go ahead and do that. Oh, yeah. Totally benefited Obama and Biden. Absolutely. Exactly. And so what we’ve got now is a president saying, we’re not doing that.
SPEAKER 07 :
Biden literally had his family members bought off, which is that’s a different level.
SPEAKER 17 :
But yeah, yeah, yeah. But, you know, you bring up a great point, Andy. It’s something that, again, is not talked about in general media. And for those of you listening, these are things that you need to share among your peers, among your family, among the water cooler and so on is the fact that we are the biggest customer. There’s a reason we’re the biggest customer. And we buy things from other countries as customers that, frankly, most other countries don’t buy. Right.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, and the bottom line is this. It has gotten to where countries more and more and more and more and more aren’t buying from us, which means we’re not making anything, which means jobs are gone. We can’t keep hemorrhaging jobs.
SPEAKER 17 :
And we allowed some of this to start happening. And I like Glenn Beck. I’m not probably his biggest fan, but he puts out some good stuff on a pretty routine basis. And he put out a video the other day that I watched. It was a short video, a couple minute long. And he was talking about areas around Detroit and Indiana. Whereby at one time, you know, Dearborn, Michigan was one of the largest, you know, Buick City and some of those things that were around those areas and the amount of cars they produced and so on. And how in the 90s, literally those things started to go away and they got offshored and they got sent to places like Canada and Mexico and Brazil and so on. And literally those places now are a skeleton of what they once were. And there was no reason for that to happen. Right.
SPEAKER 07 :
There was a two-headed monster that happened. On the one hand, it was leaders who didn’t leverage the American consumer. On the other hand, it was unions who drove up the price of American labor to such heights that we couldn’t compete.
SPEAKER 17 :
Good point. And now, really quick to close this particular segment out, we’ve got Spain. No, it’s Spain. But they want to reduce the 40-hour work week to, I believe, 37 and a half hours. Why? I guess because they want their people to have more comfort, quote-unquote.
SPEAKER 07 :
Who cares?
SPEAKER 17 :
That was my thought.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay, then you’re going to compete less with countries that… You know what? In India, they work how many hours?
SPEAKER 17 :
Oh, a lot.
SPEAKER 1 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 17 :
A lot.
SPEAKER 07 :
And in China, they work how many hours? A lot. At Nike factories, they work how many hours? A lot.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah. Well, I did some math. We can do this before we go to break. Yeah, go ahead. There’s 168 hours total in a week. I’ve done this in the past, but… Bear with me, because it always bothers me when I hear somebody say, well, man, I just can’t make ends meet, and I’m always asking, well, how many jobs do you have? Well, just the one. Okay, let me explain what I mean by that. 168 hours in a week. Take off an entire day of the week, Sunday, take 24 hours out of that, okay? I’m going to give everybody at least one day off, Andy. So take 24 hours out of it. Make sense? Yep. Okay. So that’s 24 hours. We’re going to take 48 hours for sleep. That’s six nights because we’re taking Sunday off already. So six nights at eight hours, which not everybody needs eight hours, but I’m giving everybody eight hours of sleep. So we’re taking out another 48 hours. I’m going to take out another 30 hours for just rest and play, which, by the way, is six hours a day on those other six days. That’s a considerable amount of play, by the way, I feel. Some would argue with me and say that’s not enough, but I think it’s plenty. That’s 66 hours left in the week to work, and most people work 40 or less. Right. I get it. Some of you listening work 50, 60, 70. I get it. You’re not all that way. But my point with Spain is you want your people to basically work half of that.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah. You lazy, worthless, good for nothing.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yep. And my point always has been with individuals where they say, you know, I just I can’t make enough money. I can’t make ends meet. You know, that’s because you don’t have enough jobs. Or you haven’t made yourself worthy enough through skill sets or whatever to make yourself valuable enough to where you’re making more money on a hourly, weekly, monthly, yearly basis.
SPEAKER 07 :
What about my sociology degree?
SPEAKER 17 :
That doesn’t count. I was watching a video. There’s a guy out there on social media, young kid. He’s got a channel whereby he interviews very wealthy individuals that have made money through most of them being entrepreneurs.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 17 :
And he happened to interview by chance, and I think he picked some of these people out, and he must know where they hang out and stuff. But he actually ended up interviewing the ex-CEO of Centos. Centos is a uniform company, and they make and service all sorts of different places with soaps and different things and mats and so on. It’s a huge company, a billion-dollar company. And he interviewed him, and he basically got to the point where he said, you know, number one, how did you get to be CEO? He said, well, I just started out in the company, and I worked my way up, and this, that, and the other. And he said, you know what I learned early on? He said, when my boss came to me, and it was the end of the day, and he said, hey, are you done for the day? And he’d say, yep. And he said, and I would respond. This is the CEO now talking. I would respond with, is there anything else you’d like me to do for you? And he said, most of the time, my boss would just say, yeah, no, good. You’re good. Go home. He said occasionally he’d ask me to do something else, which I would stay and do. He said before long, I became his right hand. And he said I wanted to become his right hand because I knew that if I was his right hand and somebody above him was asking, hey, do you know anybody that is good at doing such and such? The first person they would think of was me. And he said, over the years, I did that over and over and over again and finally became CEO. My point, Andy, is this. If you want to make more money, make yourself more valuable. And available. It’s as simple as that. We’ll be back here in just a minute. Finish things out. Ridgeline Auto Brokers coming up next. They want to take care of you buying or, you know, you’re going to sell a vehicle. They’ll do that as well. They’ll take your vehicle, consign it, sell it. They can help you buy a new vehicle as well. They do it all under one roof. RidgelineAutoBrokers.com.
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It’s time to leave your safe space. This is Rush to Reason on KLZ 560.
SPEAKER 17 :
All right, minute and a half or so left of today’s program. I appreciate you all listening today, by the way, on a very wet and… Cooler.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 17 :
Tuesday, but that’s okay. It’s all good. Makes the grass green, as we said earlier. So that’s all good.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay. Really quick here. The Supreme Court ruled that the Trump administration can ban the trans people from the military. I say amen.
SPEAKER 17 :
Did they give a reason? I didn’t read the ruling, Andy.
SPEAKER 07 :
Did they give a reason why? I didn’t have time to read the ruling. I’ve been busy with the show. But they basically sided with the Trump administration. Look, here’s the bottom line, John. people who literally believe they are in the wrong body, I don’t believe belong securing our country.
SPEAKER 17 :
I would agree with you. Okay. Let me add to that. I would agree with you. Go ahead. The same as I would agree with anybody else that would have any kind of a mental health problem. Right. Whereby it may affect their ability, their judgment and so on. I would agree with you on all levels. I don’t want anybody having to go through that and still defend our country at the same time. Right. That makes sense. Yes. I mean, it’s not that I’m angry with them. I’m very concerned about them and their mental well-being. And I’m concerned as a citizen about them protecting my freedom.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yes, so am I. Rush Limbaugh once said that the military is there to kill people and break things. That’s what it is meant for. It is not a social experiment, okay? It’s not about your rights. And you can say, well, what if you did this to a black or a Hispanic? There’s nothing about being a different race that keeps you from defending our country.
SPEAKER 17 :
No.
SPEAKER 07 :
Male, female. Nope, there’s nothing about that, although you have to meet physical standards.
SPEAKER 17 :
Requirements.
SPEAKER 07 :
Requirements. That’s right. But no. But if you literally think that you were in the wrong body, that’s a mental illness. You should not be in the military.
SPEAKER 17 :
I agree with that. Have a great night, folks. Stay dry. This is Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
