In today’s fast-paced world, unexpected automotive issues can arise, leaving many frustrated and overwhelmed. This episode is dedicated to providing clarity on overcoming such hurdles, offering actionable advice from seasoned experts in the field. Whether you are dealing with squeaky belts or contemplating a career in the intricacies of the automotive industry, our discussion provides insights that go beyond the surface, encouraging growth and learning in the world of car repairs and management.
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Whatever that is. Performance and image, that’s what it’s all about.
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And we are back. Thanks for joining us today. We appreciate it very much. Myself, Pat Schneid, Alltech Automotive. Of course, Charlie Grimes, our engineer for today, and Larry Unger answering phones, and lots of text messages coming in, and I appreciate those greatly. A lot of them have to do with some of the topics that we’ve already covered. Some of them even going all the way back to Fix-It Radio and Hour One. A lot of text messages still coming in about generators and things like that, which is great. You guys keep texting and appreciate it greatly. And Others, again, just kind of adding into this whole fuel situation and the sensationalism that’s involved with all of that. And I even continue to get text messages or sorry, media blasts from, you know, TV stations and so on. And I mean, it’s. I mean, it’s a big deal. I’m not trying to minimize the fact that it’s an inconvenience, people that filled up and then had issues with their vehicles not running properly, and now you’ve got to stop and get that fixed and so on. I get it. And there’s a pain there, Pat, that nobody wants to go through. I fully understand that. It’s never a fun situation when something that is way beyond your control happens. And I’m not being critical of anybody along these lines because there were multiple stations that were affected by this. It wasn’t just King Soopers. It was a lot of other stations that were, or not a lot, but other stations, I should say, were affected by this as well. And as somebody texted in earlier, I think the number is now up to 19 stations that were affected by this.
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Well, so here’s one way that I look at it, John, and you made some comments about this on Fix It Radio regarding the power outages. You know what? We take so much for granted today. This is way out of any of our individual control. So that’s exactly why you don’t want to blow this out of proportion and over sensationalize it, right? Step back. Take a deep breath. You’re going to have to deal with it if it affects you. And let’s get back to what really is affected, what really needs to be fixed, and how do we go about that. Try not to make it a bigger deal than it is, but that is a part of life today. Life is moving very fast. It’s complex, and sometimes we get put in these situations, and we do have to deal with it.
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Yes, and thank you for saying that. And, folks, stuff happens. Stuff happens. And, again, I’m not trying to minimize this because is it fair, you know, especially for folks whereby, you know, you may not have a lot of extra money to even pay the deductible on the insurance and things like that where if that’s the route you have to go down. And I get that. I really do. I understand that not everybody is in the same place, you know, financially speaking. And in some cases it’s a huge burden to even go through this. And I fully understand that. And I’m not trying to minimize this at all. But what I am saying, and I think this is what Pat’s saying as well, is things happen. You deal with it as it comes along. It’s what I guess maybe as a business owner, I’ve learned over the years is all sorts of things, Pat, happen and you respond to those things accordingly and you do the best you can to figure out what that is and get past it. And it’s what we as business owners do. And in my world, it’s just called life.
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It is. It’s called life. And if it makes you angry, okay, great. Let it settle. Get over it. And now that you’ve
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figured out uh some of the the you know the basic facts what are we going to do about it that’s much more productive fixing it than it is being mad about it don’t let your emotions ruin the situation right um yeah in fact thank you for saying that at the end of the day you cannot let the emotions control these sorts of things because when you do you make you make you know you make rash decisions you don’t make the right decision correct it’s all said and done and Again, going back to this one, here’s my recommendation, too, for any of you that have actually found yourself in this particular scenario. Number one, we have a full listing of auto shops that can help you with this particular problem listed on our website, drive-radio.com, and they’re all up and down the front range. So first of all, call one of them, let them know your scenario, and they will go through and do a lot of the things that we’ve already mentioned on our program today. Trust me, all of them are going to be on the same page that we are today that Pat and I are on, so we’ll make that easy that way. Phillip and Loveland, you’re next. Did you say Stewart? No, I said Phillip. Or is it Stewart or Phillip? This is Stewart in love with me. Okay, Stewart, I’m sorry. I said Phillip on my screen, but that’s fine. Stewart works. We’ll go with your real name. Let’s do that.
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Not my alias.
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There you go.
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All right. First off, good afternoon. My wife has an 07 Camry. Okay. And we had a problem with power strings, stuff like that. But anyway… now when she starts it up uh there’s a squeal in the in the belt and so we had thought with power steering maybe something got on the belt blah blah blah you know and it’s slipping on and the pulleys and stuff so anyway they replaced the belt the noise is still happening and they thought maybe that at first that this vehicle had an automatic tensioner but It’s a fixed tensioner. So, anyway, they’ve gone over it and over it, and it’s still doing this. Also, Winston fires it up. What did you say, Sherry, about the… There’s a strip. Oh, and the rear defrost doesn’t work. That’s because one of the strips is bad.
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Yeah, and the only thing you’re going to be able to do to fix that one, Stuart, is you have to put a new glass in that has all of the new strips and everything on it. That’s the only way. There’s guys out there that claim they can fix those. I’ve never seen one fixed yet.
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No, they can’t. They can’t do it because they’re impregnated in between the glass. That’s right. And it doesn’t work. So any way to try that is crazy. But the tensioner and the noise, the squeal is the problem.
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Does it change, Stuart, with temperature, engine temperature, temperature outside, how long you’ve driven it and so on?
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If it’s cold outside, it’s worse. Okay. When it’s warm, it doesn’t do it as much. I was wondering if the pulley on the tensioner or one of them Well, the tensioner is just a wheel, right?
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Right.
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But that wheel has a groove, does it not?
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Depends. Some do, some don’t. And I was going to say, there’s a tensioner and there’s an idler. Yes, could be as well. I mean, to your point, Stuart, and where Pat’s going with this, could be numerous things. Yes. Could be an idler. Could be the tensioner. Could be that you’ve got one of the actual pulleys is grooved too badly, and no matter what you do with the belt, it’s still not going to make any difference when it’s all said and done. There are several factors, including alignment, Stuart, that can cause noise.
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It could even be a bearing on one of the pulleys, although it doesn’t sound like that. It almost sounds like the belt slips when it’s cold, and as it warms up, the belt gets more tacky and it starts to grip. So then, is the tensioner doing its job? So one question is, have you replaced the tensioner yet?
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Have they replaced it, Sherry? Not that we know of. Now, we’ll try that. We’ll go back to the mechanic. If he can’t fix it, then…
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Well, in Europe and Loveland, if they can’t fix it, run it over to Pat. He’s a town over. Run it over to Pat and have them look at it.
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Yeah, we do have a location in southwest Fort Collins, so not too far in, but we definitely could take a look at that for you.
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Are you off 287?
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Let’s see. We’re off of Shields in Fort Collins, which is, is it Taft in Loveland, I think?
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Yeah.
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Yeah, and then we’re just about two miles up from Front Range Community College, which is one of the first institutions to come into on south Fort Collins there.
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So you’re on horse tooth?
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Just, let’s see, basically Drake and Shields, on the northeast corner of Drake and Shields.
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Okay, I know where that’s at. Yeah. Yeah, okay.
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And you might even, Stuart, just have them take a, before you do anything else, even going back to your existing technician, just have, you know, swing it by, have them take a listen to it and just really get an idea. Sometimes listening can really give you an indicator of where we need to go with things and at least give you some ideas at that point as well.
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Well, I’m wondering, you mentioned fixed tensioner. I’m not familiar with this engine. I’m wondering if it has a stretch belt. Some belts are stretchy and tension themselves and have idler pulleys. Other cars have a tensioner that moves as the belt stretches, and the tensioner keeps pressure on the belt. But somehow, we need pressure on that belt so that it doesn’t slip and squeal.
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Yeah, this is the four-cylinder. It’s not the six.
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Okay. And we can certainly look that up and just getting an eye on that belt and see if you can see any slip marks. Because the belt itself is relatively new, is what you said. Yes.
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All right. Well, we’ll log on. Motor on, as they say.
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Okay.
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Yes, sir. Anyway.
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Hey, thank you for calling. Yep.
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You bet. Thank you.
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Appreciate it, Stuart, very much. Thank you. Have a great afternoon. Let’s do this. We’ve got lines open, 303-477-5600. Question of the day, which we got just a few answers on, and some of you could throw some things at us, and that is items that you should always have in your car. And again, that can be seasonal. I understand that’s heading into the more winter months because we haven’t had much winter yet, but we always have winter in September. We still will. So what are those things you should always keep in your car? Myself, Pat Schneidt. We’ll be right back. This is Drive Radio, KLZ 560.
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And by the way, I got a couple of text messages in today because you guys have heard the commercials for the extra mile, which I need to make sure I put a plug in for that. That’s a new hour. I say new. We’ve been doing that now for, oh, gosh, a couple of months now. I want to say maybe three months total. I think we started, I don’t know. When did we start? First of November, Charlie. So it’s been two months full. So we’ve done about eight or so episodes at this point, seven maybe because of the holidays. Anyways, some of you heard the ad, you know, the mention that I did earlier, the promo that I did talking about today’s topic, which is going to be, you know, why is auto repair so expensive? And it is. And I get into, spent almost an hour talking about why that is. And there’s several factors. And the one thing that people forget is all of the things that it takes to actually run a business, from insurance, the cost of employees, training, on and on we go. I mean, I go into a lot of detail today. And one of the big factors affecting the automotive world today, and Pat is more than welcome to chime in on this, is the simple labor end of things. We’re paying more for labor today. And not saying this is wrong. I mean, technicians deserve to be paid. They’ve spent, in a lot of cases, an entire career. They’ve bought tools. They’ve been trained. They’ve got all sorts of things going for them in their career. And yes, they deserve to be compensated. But the reason why their pay continues to increase is because there’s not any competition. What I mean by that is we don’t have new people coming into the industry. So the ones that are there can almost now name their price. because there’s no new people coming in to take over for them, meaning there’s not enough competition being created to keep wages at a stable place. Is that the right way to say it, Pat?
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That’s a great way to say it, and I actually have a perspective on that. I spent almost 30 years in a corporate career in consumer electronics, and so when I was in that world, it was very typical to have, as an employee, full benefits, benefits you know, company-sponsored matching 401k program. When I got to the automotive repair industry 10 years ago, 11 years ago now, those things were not common, right? So technicians were being paid a flat rate wage without any health benefits, without any financial investing advice. And so those things are now changing. And so that’s becoming more expensive, if you will, for the employer. So look at our two shops. We have brought… We’ve got employer-paid health care. We’ve brought company match 401K. If I don’t offer those benefits, I can’t attract the talent. If I can’t attract the talent, I can’t fix your cars. So the blue-collar industry of automotive repair is catching up to that, I think, across all the trades.
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Great way to say it. But here’s the thing. And some of this is our own fault. I see a lot of, you know, going back to influencers and so on, I still see a lot of negativity, even from folks inside the industry, discouraging young people to get into the automotive world as a trade. In other words, don’t be a technician and here’s why. You know, go work in HVAC field, go work as an electrician, go work as a plumber. And unfortunately, again, we’re our own worst enemy as an industry. We’re discouraging people to even enter into our industry when, in fact, it’s a great industry. I’ve been in it the majority of my life. It’s treated me very well. I put kids through college owning shops and so on. So at the end of the day, is it an industry that you can have a nice, long career out of? Absolutely you can. And it’s really sad. When we have some of our own even telling young people, don’t get into the industry because that’s bad advice. There is a great career when it comes to fixing cars. And not saying that there’s anything wrong with being an electrician or a plumber or HVAC. But here’s the difference even in those situations versus being an auto technician. First of all, when you’re an auto technician, you never talk to the retail public. Rarely do you talk to the retail public. Typically, there’s a go-between. Now, if you’re an electrician, if you’re an HVAC guy especially, if you’re a plumber, by the way, you’re typically going into somebody’s home and you become not only the technician but the salesperson as well. And in a lot of cases, depending upon that company you’re working for, you have a quota that you’re meeting when it comes to selling things to that particular customer when you enter their home. Meaning that some cases, you’re encouraged, and I’m sorry, I’m just going to say this as it is, you’re encouraged to sell things that the customer doesn’t even need. And yet, in the automotive world, we’ve had a huge black eye for years and years and years of people doing that, when in fact, we don’t do that. I mean, rarely do you find a shop anymore that actually recommends somebody that they need something done to their vehicle that’s not legitimate. So my point is, you can be an automotive technician. Work an 8 to 5 shift, and get an hour off for lunch, by the way. You can literally show up at 7.30 or 8, work until 5 o’clock at night, in some cases 4.30, have an hour for lunch, do that five days a week, and on Fridays even leave at 3 o’clock if you want to, because a lot of technicians do, have a really good life, a really good career, and you’re not having to do any of the things I just mentioned in those other trades. Nothing against those other trades, but… But you have the ability to make well over a six-digit figure fixing cars and doing that on less than 40 hours a week work-wise.
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Well said, John. So what that gets back to, if cars are interesting to you, if you like cars and that’s a passion of yours, absolutely do not shy away from the industry.
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Yeah, and again, unfortunately, we have got what I consider, quote, unquote, I put quotes loosely around some of these influencers because there are some guys out there that would encourage young people to not get involved in our industry because it’s too much work and owners aren’t fair and you can’t make enough money and there’s too much of an investment in tools and on and on and on we go. And frankly, folks, it’s all hogwash. none of that is true yes there’s bad owners in every industry there are people out there that will take advantage of their employees in every industry from the medical world to attorneys to you name it I can go down the list there are bad actors in every single industry And unfortunately, it’s in every industry, but that doesn’t mean that it’s a general thing that’s happening inside of the industry because the reality is it is not. There’s a lot of fabulous, great owners out there that treat their people extremely well. They want their people to be there. They do things necessary to make sure that the shop is run efficiently. They want to put money in your pocket. They want to get cars fixed right. They want solid customers. But my point is, at the end of the day, because there’s lack of quote-unquote competition in that world, we’re having to pay technicians a higher wage, meaning your price to get your car fixed is going to increase until we get that solved. And frankly, it’s not being solved as we speak right now. It is not. Nope. And I don’t see it being solved anytime soon.
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No, I don’t either. That argument does apply to some of the other trades, too. I think those expenses are going to continue to increase maybe across the next decade.
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Yeah, Pat, I do not think you’re wrong because, folks, here’s the reality of it. Even if we had a plethora of people joining trade schools and so on right now to get into the automotive world, By the time a young person that maybe has some mechanical ability and maybe they don’t, and unfortunately we don’t have too many scenarios like myself, I was very blessed. And somebody asked earlier, you know, how blessed do I feel? Folks, you don’t know how blessed I feel. So much so, you know, to grow up in an industry whereby I started when I was 11, 12 years of age, I had a ton of mentors. I literally, and most people don’t know this, I’ve never been to automotive college in my life. Oh, that’s a huge blessing to have the mentorship. I have taken some classes here and there when it comes to automotive things, but my schooling was old technicians that literally poured into me the knowledge that they had that I was then able to apply to my career and then hopefully as time went by, which I still do today, take that same knowledge and share it with others. And that’s how I became a technician and then an owner and so on. And reality is I owe a lot of what I did to those older technicians that were able to pour things into me to make me the technician that i was because i didn’t learn it at school i learned it from them my point is a lot of young people don’t have that ability that’s true so they start out at you know 18 19 years of age they go to school they might spend a couple of years in tech school and then the real the reality is they don’t get any real world experience until they’re now 20 or 21. meaning they’re not going to be a really good, solid, full-fledged tech until they’re probably 25 or 26. So think about that time frame. If we had people entering in a plethora today, which we don’t, but even if there were a ton of them starting today, they’re not ready to even do some of the replacement of other technicians that Pat and I are talking about for about five to seven years. So to Pat’s point, we’re a decade away from any major change, and that’s if there’s a plethora of people, young people, entering the marketplace now, and they’re not.
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Right, right.
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So Pat’s 10-year time frame might actually be off because they’re not entering.
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Yeah. So, I mean, this is what you need to do is to support that interest and really get those kids into those seats at the school, get the training and let’s go.
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Yeah. Yeah. And so those of you that are out there listening where you might have young people, grandkids, kids themselves, neighbors, if People that you know that maybe you’re mentoring and they have a knack, they’ve got some mechanical ability, they’ve got critical thinking skills, which is hugely needed when you’re an automotive technician. If they’ve got some of those basic skills, yes, encourage them to get involved and have a career in the automotive world because they can make money doing it.
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And it comes back to your passion. If that’s something that you enjoy, listen, as a shop owner, we can choose the people that we employ. And we do not employ the people who don’t like to mentor young individuals. In fact, we’ll do a one-day job shadow. We’ll do a job apprenticeship to see if the aptitude really is there, if the interest is really there. Those things are all possible. And I think dialing it all the way back to… What does this mean for the consumers? As the price of auto repair is going to go up, how can you mitigate that to the best of your ability? One thing you really need to remember is preventive maintenance is your best option. So rather than waiting until the acute repair is necessary, listen to an advisor, find a trusted shop, get the preventive maintenance done. That’s a way to balance it out in the meantime, right? Not everybody’s on that page, but if you’ve got a good shop and a good advisor, that’s where you’re going to go.
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Lines are open 303-477-5600. Somebody asked me a moment ago if I would explain the differences between turning in a lease car at the end versus purchasing it as a buyout. I’ll be happy to do that. I can do that as soon as we come back. Myself and Pat will be right back. Drive Radio, KLZ 560.
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Okay, we are back. Drive Radio, KLZ 560. Thanks for joining us. Paul in Black Forest, you are next. Go ahead, Paul.
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Hey, John. Happy New Year.
SPEAKER 10 :
Thank you, sir. Appreciate that.
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Quick comment on the lack of techs growing up in the world, and I’ve got kind of both sides of that coin. I’ve got two nephews who had a chance to go to college. One of them tried it. Still in their 20s. One went to Vo-Tech, became a heavy diesel equipment repairman.
SPEAKER 10 :
Gotcha.
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He’s 6’4″. And I got pictures of him standing next to tires that are three times taller than him. Wow.
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Amazing.
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The kid’s about $1.60, wringing wet, and everything he touches weighs more than he does.
SPEAKER 09 :
Wow. You know, I’m not familiar with that industry.
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But he’s doing very well at it.
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But I’ve heard that that size, a small-sized technician, is actually better because you can climb around on the equipment that you need to get to the parts you need to get to.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, and the old guy’s using for exactly that.
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Yep, exactly.
SPEAKER 03 :
And then the other one who tried college, he ended up going to school and became a welder, commercial fabrication. Oh, fantastic.
SPEAKER 09 :
Good for him.
SPEAKER 10 :
That’s a great trade.
SPEAKER 03 :
Totally contrary to the college path that we grew up under.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, and we live in a day and age now, Paul, where everybody’s encouraged to go to college, and the reality is there’s a lot of kids that would be better off to do what you just talked about. Yep.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, it depends on what they pursue and what the parents insist on. We’ve had that discussion before about being enablers.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 03 :
I let my daughter use my GI Bill to go to college, but the insistence was you will graduate in four years.
SPEAKER 07 :
Nice.
SPEAKER 03 :
And you will get a job and get a degree in a job that will make you a good living that you’re interested in. And, well, everything’s a tradeoff. Well, she did. She’s a mine geologist in Idaho now. That’s awesome. We don’t get to see her. And she’s working a mile or more underground, which kind of gives me some concerns, but she loves it. And out of seven people that interviewed for her first job, four went on the mine tour a mile deep and said, no, sorry. Wow.
SPEAKER 09 :
That’s amazing. Yeah, that’s a little crazy. Amazing.
SPEAKER 03 :
My daughter said, oh, man, this is cool.
SPEAKER 09 :
Good for her.
SPEAKER 03 :
Here we go. You know, and then I’ve got this home hobby shop, John. We’ve talked a lot over the years, and RVs and all kinds of weird stuff. Mm-hmm. And I just work, you know, no advertising. It’s just a hobby. Friends, family, coworkers, neighbors, people who try to maintain their old vehicles and stuff. Almost everything I work on is 200K or around there for mileage. And a lot of them are kids who can’t afford the current shop.
SPEAKER 09 :
Right, right, right.
SPEAKER 03 :
But I’ve continuously offered these people. Some of these families have three, four kids. They’re just getting into driving. And I continuously offer, look, come on over. You can watch. I don’t have insurance problems to deal with. I’ve got a lift. You can watch. I’ll show you how to do it. I can watch you do it, whatever you want to do. In 13 years out of probably, I don’t know, 50 kids’ cars and stuff that I work on, take a guess just how many times they’ve taken me up on that.
SPEAKER 10 :
Not many. Two. Oh, my. Yeah, I figured not many.
SPEAKER 03 :
No interest at all. Everything else is more important.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yep. Right. I’m not shocked at that at all. Not at all. Well, thank you for being that guy, though, and providing that opportunity. That’s right, absolutely.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, my wife was retired from the Army, became a college professor, and she saw kind of the same thing in the classroom. Kids don’t do homework, don’t really care, just they’re marking time. Put their time in. That’s the thing they’re expected to do. But her philosophy was, if I can light the fire on one, that’s a success.
SPEAKER 09 :
That’s all that matters. Oh, absolutely. You affect one kid’s life, and that’s a good day. Good job, Paul.
SPEAKER 03 :
But switching back, I called you guys back in November on this F-150, and once I got to the punchline at the end of this old 97 Ford, which is a beautiful shape that I got from my grandson, it had a Viper alarm system in it. And you guys quickly pounced on that. It was, oh, man, you’ve got to go start ripping those things out of there immediately.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yep, that’s the first thing I would do.
SPEAKER 03 :
And we did that, and I finally got up there over the holidays, and the fuel pump was done, too. Of course, it’s been sitting for three months, so that didn’t help. Okay, okay. But I had a shop put a fuel pump in it. It’s still a no start. And the thing cranks over fine. He’s got fuel. He’s got air, whatever. But we’ve always, since this started, had no communication with the ECU.
SPEAKER 10 :
So no spark. I texted you about trying to find this ECU earlier today, John. Right, right. And it’s in Idaho, right, is what you said? Yeah, it’s in northern Idaho.
SPEAKER 03 :
Got a really good shop up there. We’ve used them before. Okay. You know, family business, good techs. They got all the diagnostic tools and all that and everything. Run the traps on everything I would think they would do. So now we’re down to finding this ECU for a 97 F-150, which I might be off by six months or a year, but that’s the first year of OBD-II for F-150s. Yep.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, and there is – I did find a guy at SEMA that will fix those. Let me see if I can pull that up for you really quick. I think – let me see if I took a picture of his card. Give me one second here. I thought I did. If not, I can go back through the vendor list and find it. But I did find a guy at SEMA that will fix – Yeah, and I will do my best to find that. And I’ve got your email, so if I don’t have it right here in front of me, which it doesn’t look like I have, I’ll do some digging and find it. But there are guys out there that will fix it. I found a guy at SEMA that actually does that. That’s what they specialize in.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, that’s what we’ve been trying to find. And the tech up there is calling around. He’s been calling after hours from home since there’s West Coast. No joy on that particular one. There’s tons of them available for 98 and later, which is a common part for four years. But this one is a real unobtainium type of deal, so it’s probably going to have to be a repair.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay. Okay. Yeah, I’m guessing it will be. You’re absolutely right. I would agree with that.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, this is a text message I sent you, John, rather than an email.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay, so I’ll find that, and I can get that back to you. And by the way, making it easier for me, because a lot of times texts get buried. Send me an email, just john at drive-radio.com. Send me that, and I’ll dig through my SEMA stuff and find that for you.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay, I’ll do that, John.
SPEAKER 10 :
I’ll send that ECU number again. Perfect. Do that. That’d be great. I appreciate that, Paul. Got time for one more?
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, go right ahead. We’re fine.
SPEAKER 10 :
Go ahead. Absolutely.
SPEAKER 03 :
I’ve sent you a picture of this before. I’m kind of weird. I’ve got an old Ford Escape I use as my plow rig.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 03 :
It’s not really streetable because of emissions anymore, but I’ve got a front receiver on it, a snowboard plow. It cuts my snow removal time from four to six hours to like an hour, and that includes a neighbor’s driveway, and I’m in a nice warm cab. Nice. That sounds good. Yeah, and even with open diffs, the four-wheel drive, you know, one on each axle going forward and backward. 4,000 pounds, it pushes this heavy, wet snow no problem at all, or a snowblower won’t touch it.
SPEAKER 09 :
What do you got, a six-foot plow on the front?
SPEAKER 03 :
No, I think it’s wider than the car, so it’s probably approaching seven. It’s the older generation, taller snow sport, and it works slick as paint. You got to manually lift it and tip it, but that keeps an old guy in shape.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay, but really quick, I got the phone number for you, too, by the way.
SPEAKER 03 :
Oh, okay. Let me get that written down here.
SPEAKER 10 :
Go ahead, John. It’s Circuit Board Medics. 800-547-2049.
SPEAKER 1 :
2049.
SPEAKER 10 :
And the website is circuitboardmedics.com. Excellent. Okay, so there you go.
SPEAKER 03 :
And then, anyway, to get back to the snowplow rig, after doing this thing, I’ve been running about six years now, and I made the front receiver out of a Chevy, universal Chevy pickup truck one, and it’s held up well. But the power steering, as you can predict, you get plus all the time. Power steering pumps start at ground, so I replace it, right? It’s a typical little round three-inch Ford. Unfortunately, it’s underneath the right-side motor mount, top motor mount. I put another one in. I nabbed the reservoir because the filter looked pretty nasty in there, kind of clogged up, no good way to clean it. No big deal, not very expensive parts. Well, as I’m purging the air out of it, you get the expected little bit of backflow and foaming and bubbling and all that. Get wheels off the ground, turn it back and forth. Well, first time I go to drive the thing and turn it, it’s blowing the fluid out through the cap vent. So I’m thinking all I could get is reman for that at the local guy, so I go take it back, get a better quality reman. Put that in there, same problem. Even if I don’t start it out right at the minimum line or below, if I plow for an hour, it’ll empty the reservoir and start growling again. So how does one… You know, there is maybe some kind of a circulation valve on the rack and pinion, which is buried under there. You can’t even see it, let alone get to the line. But one tech up here that I know recommended pulling a vacuum on the reservoir, which I’d have to rig up a cap to do. And the high point in the system is actually where the pressure sensor is that keeps the idle speed up. That’s the high point, and I’ve removed that and tried purging air, and no joy. Still nothing? No bubbles in the fluid, but it just starts pumping right out of there.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay. And you’re pretty sure it still has air in it just from the sound and the way it acts and so on?
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, the AIO is searching everything I’ve done. That’s what everybody points to as a common problem, but if there’s air…
SPEAKER 10 :
And you’re jacking it up and running the wheel, you know, stop to stop, stop to stop to try to get the air out of it?
SPEAKER 03 :
I’ve probably done that 40 times, locked the lock.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay. And whose pump and rack did you use on it?
SPEAKER 03 :
The first one was a Cardone, and the second one was CarQuest brand. Okay. Okay.
SPEAKER 10 :
Boy, I hate to say this, but I would probably go get an OEM pump and put on it.
SPEAKER 12 :
You think?
SPEAKER 10 :
Yes. And I’ll be honest, that’ll fix it.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, you’re probably right. I mean, I’ve got a really good guy now, the commercial guy at Advance and Monument. He’s really super helpful and sharp. And, you know, we’ve taken them apart and looked at them. They look identical pressure relief valve in there on a little spring.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 03 :
Everything circulates. The only thing we could think of is that, you know, when it dislodged that reservoir and all the other stuff getting to it, something got jammed into that. Something might have got jammed into that valve down on the rack.
SPEAKER 10 :
I would put an OEM with the can and everything on it is what I would do in assembly.
SPEAKER 03 :
You think it changed to a remote reservoir as well?
SPEAKER 10 :
Yep, I do it all. And this is the voice of experience talking about having some of these issues even, you know, a decade plus ago in my shops, Paul, and having to do that. So it hasn’t changed any, by the way. It’s the same as it was then.
SPEAKER 09 :
You’re taking a little bit of a systems approach. It’s like, what else is connected? What else is related? And rather than go one at a time, let’s do them both. I would. Yeah.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, it’s probably worth it. I mean, the only time I’ve ever seen this, and I grew up a lot like you did, John, in shops, was the old hydro boost days. You could, if you really were not paying attention, get those lives reversed because of Right. Delco pumps.
SPEAKER 10 :
Right.
SPEAKER 03 :
The blowback out through the cap.
SPEAKER 10 :
Correct.
SPEAKER 03 :
But this is so cookie-cutter simple. I mean, there’s two lines, you know, a three-quarter-inch line from the pump to the reservoir and a high-pressure line coming out.
SPEAKER 10 :
Right.
SPEAKER 03 :
And then a circulation hose to the – I actually got a cooler on it.
SPEAKER 10 :
My gut feeling is the pump’s not doing what it should. That’s my take. It could even be cavitating inside, Paul. I’ve seen that happen on the aftermarket pumps, too. That’s the other thing that can happen. It can be creating its own air.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, without causing any bubbles to get into the system.
SPEAKER 10 :
I’ve seen it more times than not.
SPEAKER 03 :
All right. Well, it’s a blessing if it’s not some kind of valve down on the rack itself. I’m not that familiar with how that thing works.
SPEAKER 10 :
Paul, I’m going to run to break. I appreciate the phone call as always. David in Loveland. Jeff, you guys hang tight. We’ll come right back. Kyle in Dallas, if you’re still listening, call us back. We’ll get you squeezed in here before we end the show as well. Drive Radio, KLZ 560.
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SPEAKER 10 :
All right, last segment, Drive Radio, KLZ 560. Myself, Pat Schneid, Alltech Automotive out of Fort Collins. Jeff in Montana, you’re next. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 04 :
Hey, good morning again. I just wanted to push back on a statement. It’s not really anything significant, but you said it’s competition that makes it work. I think it’s more like the law of supply and demand that causes the whole thing around technicians. Oh, yeah. No, absolutely.
SPEAKER 10 :
There’s not enough supply. You’re right.
SPEAKER 04 :
No, you’re not competing for anything because you’ve got a lot of jobs. I think the jobs are competing for technicians.
SPEAKER 10 :
That’s exactly right. You’re 100% correct.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, and the whole trades thing is Joe Rogan has made a great career out of making people understand something very simple, that trades are wonderful, and they’re absolutely necessary in that. you can make so much money. Uh, I was just talking to my kids this morning or texting back and forth. My, uh, my uncle was a guy who, uh, he was just a simple carpenter bricklayer. He, uh, my dad was, had all these, uh, schemes to get rich quick and none of them ever worked. My dad died. My uncle died a rich man with a house in Texas and Minnesota and a motor home to move between the two. So, uh, so, you know, You don’t need college. And if you want to, your whole thing about people not needing schooling necessarily is absolutely spot on as well. So I just wanted to kind of make that clarification. Also, I had a question. Years ago, somebody said that a shop can be ASE certified if only one tech in the shop is. Is that right?
SPEAKER 10 :
That’s correct.
SPEAKER 04 :
I think that’s right.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yes, that’s correct.
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay, so all the texts don’t need to be certified.
SPEAKER 10 :
No, not to have the symbol on the front of the door or advertisements or anything along those lines. No, you need one technician that is, frankly, not even have to be certified in every area or even be a master tech. And in defense of most shops, there’s typically on the good shops, there’s not only one, there’s several that are. And most shops, mine, I always encourage that. We did our very best to make sure everybody. In fact, I incentivized my guys with pay to actually have those certifications. Yep, you bet. And a lot of shops do that.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yep. And that’s spot on. You know, it’s not something that you want to avoid or try to gain, but something you want to try to have.
SPEAKER 10 :
That’s right. Oh, absolutely. Yes. Yes. And by the way, it doesn’t mean that because you’re certified, you can fix cars properly. You know, I’ve known a lot of guys that can pass a test, but they can’t fix a car. But generally speaking, it’s a standard whereby as an industry, we have that. And it does help set a bar in a way that you wouldn’t have otherwise.
SPEAKER 09 :
And it’s the only third party. It’s the only one we have. That’s right.
SPEAKER 10 :
It’s the only one we have. Yep.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, I mean, you know, you’ve got accountants out there who are members of professional organizations who I wouldn’t trust. That’s right.
SPEAKER 10 :
It doesn’t mean diddly squat. Exactly. Same applies. Absolutely. Right.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, it’s true in every industry. So I’ll let the last caller. Okay. I’ll do it, Jeff.
SPEAKER 10 :
I appreciate it. Always great comments. David and Loveland, you’ll be our last caller. Go for it, sir.
SPEAKER 06 :
Just briefly, good afternoon. I just want recommendations for a dash cam.
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, and I get this question a lot. And what I will tell you is, first things first, find out if your insurance company gives you any kind of discounts for having a dash cam. And if so, they might have certain ones they want you to use to get said discounts. So what I’m always back to is, go to your insurance company, ask them, if I do a dash cam, do I get any kind of a discount? And if so, which one do I need to use? And if they do, they’ll tell you what those are. If they say, hey, it doesn’t matter, there’s no discounts, whatever, then from there, David, literally just go online and do some research and look at the reviews. There are a plethora of them out there. You can get them from Amazon, all sorts of different places, and I do not have a preference. I do not use one. We’re looking at them for our fleet right now, and that is through our insurance company, by the way. That’s where I knew that the insurance companies in a lot of cases will give you a discount, and there’s a lot of them on the market. Some are really good. Some are not so good.
SPEAKER 06 :
Thank you. Thank you very much.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay, but that’s the way to – and for any of you that always ask that, and I get that question, I’ll bet at least once or twice a month people will ask, you know, what’s your recommendation on dash cams? And there’s forward-facing, rear-facing, some do both. Garmin makes some. I mean, there is a – again, there is a plethora of them that are out there. And the way the majority of them work is they’ve got an SD card, of course, and they are recording at all times. Now, what they’re storing – is based upon an event so the way most dash cams work is they’re constantly recording and then if there’s something that happens there’s an accident you hit the button whatever they then back up in time x amount and store that footage and then what they do is of course they’ll move forward and store that footage as well so they’re always recording but they’re not always storing said information typically the only store that information when they’re told to either through an accident through an event or you’ve pushed the button to say hey i’ve got a road rage issue going on or something along those lines you hit the button and then it does exactly what i just said but it will not record and store every second of every moment that you’re driving at all times. It’s recording, but it’s not storing that information. It’s not like a DVR for a camera system you might have on your home or business where it’s recording everything and storing that and then writing over that. Most of them don’t do that. Most of them are taking that snapshot of time and then recording that accordingly. It’s not putting onto that disk, if you would, or onto that drive. It’s not recording and putting on the drive every single thing that you do. And again, some insurance companies, not all, some will give you a decent discount for actually having that because at the end of the day, it’s going to show whether you’re at fault, not at fault, is the other person at fault, and we as a company have had situations along those lines whereby it’s a huge aid in having it. So Yeah, it is something worth looking at. In fact, in this day and age, driving around the metro area, probably something that is more apt to have and use and utilize. But all right. With all that being said, you guys have a fantastic rest of your day and weekend. Pat, as always, thank you, man, for coming down. I appreciate it greatly. Hey, great to see you again, man. All the best for 2026. Always a joy. Alltech Automotive up in Fort Collins. You guys go check them out. You can find them at drive-radio.com. Larry Unger answering phones today, as always. I appreciate him greatly. Charlie Grimes as well. He’s our engineer for today. And again, folks, if you’re listening to a replay of our program, we appreciate that greatly. Don’t forget, Drive Radio, The Extra Mile, coming up at 3 to 4 p.m. That’s on Saturdays Listening. I talk about the real cost of auto repair and why it’s expensive. That’s on today’s program. So, guys, have a great rest of your weekend. Drive Radio, KLZ 560.
SPEAKER 13 :
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