In this thought-provoking episode of ‘A Guy’s Perspective’, we dive into intense conversations about the geopolitical tensions surrounding nuclear power. Our dynamic panel of men from differing backgrounds engage in a candid dialogue on America’s relationship with Iran and the broader implications of nuclear armament. From historical contexts to modern-day ramifications, we critically assess whether the possession of nuclear weapons is a stabilizing deterrent or a catastrophic liability. Join us as we navigate through the intricacies of Trump’s military decisions and the global response to these actions. We also delve into the broader implications of cyber warfare as the
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I can’t hide myself. I don’t expect you to understand. I just hope I can explain what it’s like to be a man.
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Welcome to A Guy’s Perspective, where they discuss real-life topics that men today are dealing with, whether married, single parent, or just single. We invite you to call into this live program with your comments and questions. And here they are.
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How’s everybody doing today? This is KOZ 560 AM. You can always reach the guys at 303-477-5600. Again, that’s 303-477-5600. And we want to thank everybody that calls into the show. Every week we have callers, new callers, first-time listeners. We love it, so keep it up. Listeners, keep calling in. I know we’ve got a wild show. We go off on a tangent sometimes. We argue, we fight, we… Yell at each other. We agree. We laugh. We say whatever comes to the top of our head because we’re guys. So let’s go around the room. Who are we going to start with? Introduce yourselves.
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I guess I’ll go first. This is Heath Heine, the actor in Colorado. So if you need an actor, let me know. And if you need your crack filled, call me at 303-229-7442. Brian, local janitor. I’m Brock.
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Andre, local business owner. I’m Reno, local business owner.
SPEAKER 10 :
All right, let’s dive into it, man. Guys, so we know that this war or this skirmish that America is having with Iran, like it was all over their nuclear, them getting nuclear power and stuff like that. So we bombed them. So I guess we’ll start off with this question. If a nuclear weapon is the ultimate security device that will keep your country safe, why wouldn’t everyone have one? We don’t want everyone to have one. Explain that.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, sometimes we have nuclear devices to make sure we’re deterring other people that are more responsible, if you will, you know, from just haphazardly launching a nuclear holocaust. Because in the beginning of the nuclear showdown we had with the Soviet Union, it was based off of MAD, Mutual Assured Destruction, where basically they, you know, we told them, hey, if we ever go to a nuclear situation with the Soviet Union, we will, even at the very last hand, the dead end. If everybody’s gone, all parts are decapitated, you know, generals, et cetera, all leadership, we’ll still keep on launching our nukes. And the Civil Union said, you know, they’re the one that actually had the dead hand, which basically said that a computer would launch the nukes anyway in the event that they were decapitated. So by that, we have a nice deterrence into saying we’re not going to do that. But when you have things like Iran, where they’re zealots, let’s just be real, they’re zealots for Islam, you know, When we got into this war, this was a war that Trump really should have thought a lot more about, especially going against a zealot that would love to kill, you know, and collect 40 virgins or, you know, do things in the name of Allah. I think that right now having some state like that, a terrorist type state, it can never happen and it should never happen. You know, unfortunately, Kim Jong-un from back in the day, I mean, they were allowed to have their weapon. And you can’t tell me they aren’t the bully of that little bully of that area. You know, we’re always looking at them.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, I think Iran has completely proved themselves to be incapable of allowing to possess a nuclear weapon. With, you know, driving planes into buildings or, you know, death to America.
SPEAKER 05 :
Is that what Iran did? They did them.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, those that back them, for sure. Same network.
SPEAKER 05 :
They flew planes into buildings. Is that what you’re saying? Iran did?
SPEAKER 10 :
That was Iran?
SPEAKER 03 :
No, it wasn’t. I don’t think that was Iran. But Iran does play an asymmetrical warfare. They use terrorist proxies. And sometimes these small armies, these small groups that can’t fight a major military power just picks away and it’s death by a thousand slices.
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So does developing a weapon of this kind of magnitude trigger a total cutoff from the global banking system? Should the global banking system just say, hey, you’re unstable. We’re going to cut all funds from you.
SPEAKER 03 :
I think that would help.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, instead of, like, putting sanctions on the country, shouldn’t America step up and be like, hey, man, we’re at the top of the food chain. We’re going to cut off all money supplies.
SPEAKER 03 :
But that’s not going to happen. I mean, because most of the banking industries are not set through the United States. You know, if you want to go conspiracy or whatever the case may be, the Rothschilds and all that and the ultra wealthy bank and, you know, bankers, they prefer to have people like the United States not have the amount of money, you know, to go ahead and get into a war. Spend all your ammunition, spend all your munitions. They let everybody in that country suffer by higher gas prices, etc. They’re loving it because at the end of the day, you know, with that, they lose the autonomy. We lose the power if we can’t recoup what we’ve invested. Simple business when you think about it, right? If I put the money into a war, I better have a nice return, right? Otherwise, what’s the United States doing? It’s taxing the only people that can generate money. That’s what government does. Government doesn’t create wealth. Government taxes people, and that’s the wealth that they create. But if people can’t afford to fill their gas tanks and all that, then guess what? The whole economy starts to collapse too. If interest rates are still high, if the value of the dollar is low. Think about it. All these scenarios work against us and work against, facilitate the ending of a country’s supremacy. Can you think about it?
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Okay. If we look at the broken window fallacy, according to economics, we start to understand the hidden costs associated with destruction. The concept, is centered by French economists who also underline the importance of what is being seen and unseen according to economics. So basically in a nutshell is that if you go to war and you think it’s beneficial for your country to build all these bombs and bullets the whole nine yards. You’re not seeing the underlining issues that we have because look at what’s happening with gas prices. Let’s talk about that. Because of what we’ve done, hey man, I hate to say it, American Israel bombed them. Now gas is going through the roof.
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Well, check this out. North Korea is a great example of that. I mean, they’ve invested so heavily in nuclear armament, things like that, that their people are broke. Their people are poor and starving. Wow. So, I mean, this war machine, you know, I heard you guys a couple weeks ago. I wasn’t on. And Brock, you kept asking why the United States started the war, and we didn’t. We didn’t. Israel started it. Israel was the first person that dropped the bomb.
SPEAKER 10 :
Oh, we didn’t drop the bomb first? Israel?
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 10 :
So out of these 12,000 bombs we dropped, Israel is the one that initiated it?
SPEAKER 03 :
They’re the ones that initiated it. Is that true, guys?
SPEAKER 09 :
No, wait. Don’t you think they got permission first from Donald Trump to do so?
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, if that’s the case, then it’s kind of surprising that every time Trump says, hey, we’re not going to bomb the heavy water factories, we’re not going to touch their gas or something like that, and then all of a sudden Israel went ahead and bombed it anyway. I don’t know what’s happening with, you know, I again, I’m not a Republican. I’m very much into making sure that if the party that is in power is doing things that’s actually hurting the people. Now, I do have a problem with that because I’m a United States citizen. I’ll fight for my country. But guess what? I’m not going to fight in a war that could result in an endless amount of death and destruction. And that surprised me that things have moved this way when Donald Trump has professed not to be a wartime president. And he wasn’t up until now.
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So do you think at the end of the day Trump made a mistake? Let’s go there, guys. Did Trump make a mistake by bombing Iran?
SPEAKER 03 :
Because I don’t think he did. So I will say that I’m not a Democrat that hopes that Trump fails. I don’t hope anybody fails because the Democrat Party directly can’t stand that man. Right. I’m not Democrats, but the people that represent Democrats, they wish for the failure of Trump, even if it kills and destroys the United States of America. That’s how bad they are. I’m not. I want this to work. I still have hope that it will work. But. This is an old scenario that has been war-gamed and things like that. This really surprises me. I think that somehow he was talked into something or the intelligence could have been wrong. Or there’s intelligence that really shows that we were in an imminent threat of mass destruction or something. But you know who ruined it for the Republican Party is George W. Bush when he invaded Iraq, basically saying that they have weapons of mass destruction. Where were they?
SPEAKER 10 :
And listen, people, if y’all disagree with what Andre’s saying, call at 303-477-5600. Because I think, I stand behind what Trump did. Because if you allow, so check this out. Okay, net zero gain. Both countries have, if both countries have nukes, neither one of them are safe. I know we sit back and say a nuclear bomb is like the ultimate deterrent. It’ll cause people not to come after your country. But if you allow this country to have a nuke at the end of the day and they’re unstable, like I said before, I think they’re going to launch it at Israel, number one. And I think they launch it at America, number two. But that’s me, though.
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And I’m with you because that’s what I’m saying. They have to be a responsible country. Iran is a terrorist-proven state. It’s on our watch list. They have proxies that are terrorists. They fund terrorism throughout the world. So why would we allow that to happen? But the question I have is how come it seems like every seven years or every six years, they’re two months away from obtaining a nuclear bomb. We’ve heard that over and over and over again. And I hate to say it, but there’s only… I don’t know. I don’t want to be… Because, guys, listen.
SPEAKER 10 :
This is the problem I have with the whole situation. I agree with what Trump did. But Russia, United States, China, France, United Kingdom, India, Pakistan, Israel, and North Korea are the only ones that have nuclear powers right now. Why isn’t that… these nine countries have them and the rest of the world doesn’t are we the only people that are stable everybody else is a bunch of wackos that’s a great question but i mean you know what i’m saying that that’s probably what people ought to be asking well historically speaking you know the german you know after or during world war ii they were seeking that type of advancement
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And then we basically took their scientists, gave them a nice salary, didn’t put them in prison. And they, you know, essentially helped us create our first atomic weapon. And the Soviet Union, you know, spied on us and or at spies that infiltrated us and they obtained it. And thereafter, we started kind of sharing a little bit of our nuclear technology and basic nuclear reactor and stuff like that. So I would say not third world, but people that were more first world started to obtain the knowledge of how to create a nuclear weapon.
SPEAKER 10 :
And every answer you’re giving is good. But here’s what I think every listener outside the question I asked should be wondering. Are we causing other countries to pursue nuclear capabilities because we keep jumping in on every conflict around the globe? Or is that what we’re supposed to do since we’re America? Well, it’s a good question, dude.
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Well, there’s a war pact, you know, those war pacts like the Warsaw Pact that the Soviet Union had, and then we had NATO. That basically was meant to kind of create a covering for other countries that were part of either, you know, the former Soviet Union’s Warsaw Pact, or otherwise our NATO alliance. And those alliances allowed us to say, you know what, we will protect you, but You know, we don’t want you to have that type. There’s going to be some regulation on nuclear ambitions.
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Yeah. Yeah. But if you think about this, if I’m a little country and everybody else has got. The capital to build weapons, to build bombs, A, B, C, and D. And I know that this one bomb will keep my whole entire country safe and keep everybody away. Wouldn’t I just flip you off and be like, hey, dude, I’m going to build it regardless of what you tell me I can and can’t do? Well, that’s what Iran’s doing. Exactly, because it’s kind of like your house. Like, they turn around and say, give up your guns. Well, if you turn around and gave up all your—if the American people gave up their guns— Dude, you would open yourself up to so many bad people. They’d walk in your house and wouldn’t even think twice and jack everything you got.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, I think what we’re dealing with right now with the war is I don’t like the fact that we’re putting troops on the ground.
SPEAKER 10 :
But are we putting troops on the ground?
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, we have Marines lined up. We have special ops lined up. I know they want to take that island in Iran. But Iran’s saying they’ll defend it, you know, tooth and nail. And you know what? I believe them. Because when you’re ruled by those type of Islamic wackos like you like to say. Oh, dude, dude, yeah.
SPEAKER 10 :
Bro, they’re wackos, period.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah. You know, they’re not going to give up. It’s just like any type of zealot. You know, history is repeating itself. I mean, when, you know.
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I mean, because we’ll go back to it. And listen, if somebody out there can fact check us on this at 303-477-5600. Because if Israel actually launched the first bomb at them, these people already hate Israel. So imagine how many of these other countries are like, hold on a second. They got the greatest nation in the world backing them up. So they’re able to bomb us at will. If I were if I were these Muslim countries, I’d be mad, dude.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, the Muslims have never really liked Israel. It goes back to Israel and – I’m sorry.
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Isaac and Ishmael. Thank you. Because it really makes you wonder. I would feel so awkward if my neighbor had guns and I didn’t have any way to protect my home.
SPEAKER 05 :
So if a nuclear strike happened, it would affect the entire globe.
SPEAKER 10 :
But would one nuclear bomb affect the whole entire globe, or would it have to be… Depends on the, you know, restraint.
SPEAKER 03 :
I don’t know.
SPEAKER 08 :
I think there would be fallout, there would be nuclear fallout, and it would go the circuit of the world, the wind.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, it only travels so far, though, you know.
SPEAKER 05 :
There’s a treaty… TPNW, the Treaty on the Prohibition of Nuclear Weapons, adopted in 2017. There’s a treaty on that stuff? Yeah. It argues that no country should have nuclear weapons due to their catastrophic humanitarian consequences.
SPEAKER 09 :
But, I mean, how many countries live up to those treaties?
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, obviously, we’re not living up to it now because we’re one of the countries… So there’s supposed to be only five countries with nuclear weapons.
SPEAKER 03 :
So I would interject too, is with that treaty, it’s just a piece of paper. Because we’re not, guess what, we’re not only using the weapons of mass destruction as not only a nuclear, right? It’s also changed to biological, which, you know, we signed, you know, so many papers that said, hey, we won’t do it. Soviet Union doesn’t do it under the Reagan administration. But clandestinely, we still maintained our shops. Look, when you look at what happened with COVID, that place was in Wuhan, China, right? Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER 10 :
Dude, that crap came from a lab.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, yeah. Well, and a lot of that funding came from us. So why is it surprising? So we’re not sticking with that. But then also you got one more thing. The newest thing that can shut down a whole country is cyber warfare, right? That’s like the new atom bomb, if you ask me.
SPEAKER 08 :
Tariffs. Yeah. Tariff is a warfare. Tariff is a warfare. Tariffs. Don’t you believe so? No, they’re using it for warfare, yeah, for sure.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, like what you were saying, attack on grids, like the EMPs that would take out the entire grid and cause us, it would take out all the electronics.
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Because it makes you wonder, like, America’s stable, right? Well, okay, and hear my theory behind it. So we have a president, he’s stable. Is he? Well, if he’s not stable, he’s got a group of men around him that are stable. These other countries, if you have a supreme dictator like Wong Jong-un, who’s there to put this guy in check?
SPEAKER 08 :
So the thing is, like you were stating before, that the nuclear weapons that a country possesses is how they can ensure safety in their country. For sure. I disagree with that, man, because it’s diplomacy. Do you think diplomacy is what’s going to stop a country from taking over another country? Yeah, man. One would think that, oh, well, a contract is what’s going to make this work between you and me, but that’s not true. It’s whether you are a man of your word or I am a man of mine.
SPEAKER 10 :
I totally disagree with that because Russia is not listening to any diplomacy.
SPEAKER 09 :
I mean, I just, I don’t see the end game, right? You went in there, you did what you did. You’ve dropped over what? 10,000 bombs or whatever you’ve done. And you probably miscalculated, you know, the situation. And so now that you’ve done what you’ve done and you thought what you were going to do was going to work to end the war and found out these guys are more resilient than you thought. So now you’re, now you’re, in desperate measures, probably. Would you agree, Reno?
SPEAKER 05 :
I kind of agree with the viewpoint of MAD. Mutual Assured Destruction. Mutual Assured Destruction. Because they think that if there’s the nuclear weapons can actually prevent large-scale wars, and if you have nuclear weapons… And the threat of you using it keeps him from using it anymore.
SPEAKER 08 :
Oh, that’s exactly how I believe, dude. Then it’s a Mexican standoff. We’re all standing here with guns pointed at one another. Like, who’s going to go? Who’s going to pull?
SPEAKER 10 :
But that’s a good thing. If you don’t have a dog in your yard, they’re climbing the fence, dude. It’s ridiculous.
SPEAKER 03 :
That’s kind of racist. That kind of Mexican standoff. Have you ever heard, if you want peace, prepare for war? That’s where I disagree. Diplomacy doesn’t work. So in this type of scenario, you know, I mean, history is repeating itself. If you want peace, then you do have to prepare for war. It’s just Trump decided to be the one president to say, you know what, okay, enough’s enough with Iran because we’ve had both Democrat and Republican presidents Presidents have been, ever since Jimmy Carter, who really dropped the ball on Iran, this situation has been shuffled from president to president. I don’t know why President Trump thinks he needs to be the person to take it because our economy was starting to turn, but now I’m just curious how this is going to play out. I hope for the best, but I’m going to pray.
SPEAKER 05 :
Prepare for war. You said if you prepare for war… that makes so much sense because Need it and not have it, or have it and not need it, or need it and not have it.
SPEAKER 08 :
Oh, yeah. So if the medicine is war for the illness and the ailment that people and humanity are, then just do it, man. Do the damn thing. Like, go ape on it. Like, drop the nuke, man. Do it. Because too much of a good thing? Is that too much of a good thing? But here’s the problem.
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If you turn around and push the button. What would happen? Honestly, think about that. If you turn around and leveled one whole country, wouldn’t every country come at you at that point?
SPEAKER 08 :
Because they know you’re mad. M-A-D-D, right?
SPEAKER 10 :
And call us at 303-477-5600 because I don’t think that’s a very good… What’s the D?
SPEAKER 08 :
The other D. That’s Mothers Against Drunk Driving. I’m sorry.
SPEAKER 10 :
So do you feel like this is causing inflation? It is. It is.
SPEAKER 08 :
But, okay, it’s always been stated that war is profitable for the country that goes to war. If it’s war on your own land, it’s not profitable because it’s decimation. But so in time past, America has been able to prosper by war, but not these long wars, not these things that carry on forever and they don’t finish and they don’t finalize.
SPEAKER 10 :
I’ll tell you who war, at least from what I’ve studied, affects. High inflation hits the middle class or the middle income. The person who’s trying to save, it affects them most. War’s not affecting the dude who’s on welfare because he don’t care. It’s not affecting the billionaire. It’s affecting your companies. It’s positively affecting the billionaire.
SPEAKER 08 :
Well, I don’t think it is. Hey, yeah, depending for sure. Well, if like Trump’s sons who knew who who knew to invest in drones before they started launching all the drones. Yeah, you’re going to make money on that.
SPEAKER 10 :
Right.
SPEAKER 08 :
But the middle class person is going to make money.
SPEAKER 10 :
The middle class person is going to be the one who’s suffering, though. The guy who’s got to put one hundred and fifty dollars in his gas tank. Yes, that’s the dude that that’s suffering. So at the end of the day, I agree with Brian. I agree with what Trump did, but now I think it should be done and over with. You dropped 15,000, 12,000 bombs. What’s the end result? What are we trying to do?
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, and he keeps… That’s the problem is… He keeps moving the marker. And so now we I just read today we have 30 something, you know, more targets now. And that’s what’s that’s what I voted for Donald Trump, you know, because he wasn’t a wartime president. And I seen the persecution he went through. I liked his ideas. And I seen how even the Democrats that loved him just turned on him because he chose to be a Republican. I don’t like people that are that way. You know, just be real with people, be honest with people. And that’s unfortunate because right now I don’t feel Trump’s being honest with us. Something changed and I’d like to know what it is. I wish he would get on and just kind of be a lot more honest. I mean…
SPEAKER 10 :
You don’t think he’s being honest about saying the whole reason we’re over there is to make sure these whack jobs don’t get a bomb?
SPEAKER 03 :
You know, I honestly feel that there might be something that they have on him or people are basically, or maybe it’s his age.
SPEAKER 08 :
And when you say they, you mean like Netanyahu?
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, yeah, maybe like the Mossad or whoever.
SPEAKER 09 :
Maybe it’s his cabinet. Maybe it’s people that are right next to him. Maybe these guys have been placed in that area to be on his side that they can whisper in his ear the things that the Republicans want them to hear.
SPEAKER 10 :
No, I agree with you guys 100%. I think, God, what I cannot get – I just don’t see what he’s doing at this point.
SPEAKER 05 :
Who profits from war the most? Who’s the major benefactor?
SPEAKER 10 :
Not the middle class guy.
SPEAKER 08 :
Not the small business owner. Probably the war machine. Absolutely. There’s so much money that the U.S. puts into military. Billions.
SPEAKER 10 :
So who does? Because at the end of the day, if you look at what’s happening, if we didn’t have to spend money on resources and bombs and bullets, we could put that money elsewhere.
SPEAKER 05 :
Who do they purchase those artillery from, the bomb that cost whatever million? Who do they purchase that from?
SPEAKER 10 :
You’re asking a good question. Aren’t we making that stuff in-house? We can’t be outsourcing gunpowder and crap, right?
SPEAKER 03 :
And so this is the dilemma, too, is that under the previous administration, we just gave a lot of our resources over to the Ukraine effort. And to the point where, you know, we now are at a shortage. And even, you know, despite Trump trying to protect that thought that we don’t have enough, you know, artillery or whatever the case may be, we have a shortage. You know, we have a supply shortage on that end. So things need to be desperately made because he’s even, you know, so bad. Artillery?
SPEAKER 10 :
uh just like the uh and people we’re going to talk about this on the other side call at 303-477-5600 and tell us what y’all think about what trump’s doing i don’t expect you to understand i just hope i can explain what it’s like to be
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SPEAKER 10 :
How’s everybody doing today? This is KLZ 560 AM. You can call the guys at 303-477-5600. On the other side, we were talking about the war. Here’s what I want to say. And we’re going to start it off. I truly believe that Trump was God sent. Proverbs 6.6 says, because of economics, the Bible says, look to the ants. The theory that emphasizes the importance of hard work, planning for the future, and cooperation. This model does not leave room for anyone to be lazy. Because God told the sluggard to look at the ant. The sluggard is someone who is habitually lazy, inactive, avoids their responsibility, procrastinates. Trump does not have those abilities. Therefore, I believe. that that scripture was solely built for the president of the United States of America. And anybody who wants to disagree with me or agree, call at 303-477-5600. There is one who has been working so very hard since his fall.
SPEAKER 08 :
to get others to follow him. And I put Trump in that same realm. Oh, my God, dude. I do, bro. Dude, Trump is the epitome of the ant. Hey, listen, bro. Trump is the epitome of the ant.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay, how are you going to debunk it?
SPEAKER 08 :
Okay, let me hear it. Listen, just because an individual works hard doesn’t mean they work good or do good. It also means that he’s trying to store up for America’s future. I’m just saying, don’t say because somebody’s working hard that their intentions are not ill.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay, what bad intentions does he have?
SPEAKER 08 :
What bad intentions?
SPEAKER 10 :
What kind of intentions does every man have?
SPEAKER 08 :
Greed, selfishness.
SPEAKER 10 :
So you think by him protecting America and setting up our future and following a biblical principle.
SPEAKER 08 :
Vanity of vanities. It’s all vanity and vexation under the sun, bro. So you’re basically saying why bother? This is good. No, I’m just saying straight up. Yeah, absolutely. Why bother? But I’m just saying, man, that in any time that we pedestalized any individual, Left, right, wrong, right. It doesn’t matter, man.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay, well, give me a scripture that debunks Proverbs 6.6 because he is doing what you were supposed to be doing.
SPEAKER 08 :
I know, but you were building this based on him being a hard worker.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yes, because he is. He’s a hard worker as a president that’s trying to protect America from evil people.
SPEAKER 08 :
I’m just saying Pharisees and Sadducees work hard, too.
SPEAKER 1 :
Oh, my God.
SPEAKER 10 :
People call him at 303-477-5600. That was really good. No, dude, that was really good, dude. I mean, I have to admit, when you come up with a good phrase, that was a good phrase. I mean, but honestly, guys, I think he’s doing something. That’s biblical here.
SPEAKER 09 :
I think he’s God sent. I mean, I’m torn between… This is good. I will vote for every president who backs Israel. I will vote for any president who backs Israel, which Donald Trump does. And what they did to Israel October 7th was unacceptable. Whatever kind of terror that happened had to be… had to be stomped out immediately, right? So for all we know, this could be judgment of the Lord upon these people for what they did October 7th.
SPEAKER 03 :
What happened October 7th? In Israel, you don’t remember that? Oh, I do, I do, I do, I do. And, you know, biblically speaking, that’s why it’s kind of hard because you’re starting to hear a change and a mood from people that are so-called MAGA and those that aren’t MAGA. And, like, you have Candace Owens, all these other people that are trying to say that, you know, this war is not right. They’re not against Israel, but they’re against Netanyahu. But when you look at it, biblically speaking, this looks like it could be leading to the Sixth Trumpet War. Not the War of Armageddon, but there is a war that’s going to come, and it’s going to start within that region. And if we look at a lot of Bible prophecy, is this the beginning of it?
SPEAKER 10 :
But guys, if some country does not take the bull by the horns and make the initiation to protect our planet, then everybody’s going to fall. Right.
SPEAKER 08 :
I’m going to say the same thing that James Tallarico said, man. Who’s James Tallarico? James Tallarico, he’s out of Texas, man. He’s running for governor or state, something like that. He said that the only thing worse than a tyrant is a tyrant who believes they’re on a mission from God.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, I’ve heard that said.
SPEAKER 03 :
Hold on, hold on.
SPEAKER 10 :
You guys say it all the time. What did Genghis Khan say, though? Hey, no, no, no, no.
SPEAKER 08 :
Let’s say it. Let’s say it. He basically said that I’m a plague. I’m the judgment of God. There you go. Hey, man. Hey, man. Trump is there for a reason, guys. Would you guys all claim yourselves to be like warmongers? Like you’re for war? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
SPEAKER 10 :
No, I’m not for war. I’m for America.
SPEAKER 08 :
Can’t be lukewarm. Don’t be lukewarm, bro. Hold on, hold on, hold on.
SPEAKER 10 :
Let me tell you. I’m for America. sticking up for countries that don’t have the ability to protect themselves. So if you give Iran a bomb of that magnitude, they’re going to drop it on somebody who may not have the ability to protect themselves.
SPEAKER 03 :
Again, going back to Iran. And I could be wrong. I don’t know. I don’t know the future. Let’s think about Iran. For those that are actually out there protesting and saying that we need to protect Iran, Iran, I mean, the saddest part about it is it’s ruined and run by mullahs. These people are zealots. Their goal is to inflict either Islam, whether it’s by force or by coercion. But their hand, the way they look at it, is they want to be the hammer that drives down the nail and destroys the infidel. And you’re the infidel. I’m the infidel, according to them. You know, we’re the big Satan, and Israel’s called the little Satan in their eyes. I’m just saying I agree with one thing that you said, Heath, earlier, which is I think it’s time for us to get out. I think it’s time for us to say, OK, we fulfilled our mission. You know, mission complete. Yeah. Let’s let’s not prolong this. And if Israel wants to continue at it, we’ll have your back. But we aren’t going to put any boots on the ground.
SPEAKER 10 :
And people call that 303-477-5600. Let me ask you guys this. Does Iran, what is their God? It’s not, is it Allah? It’s not like Muhammad or whatever that stuff is?
SPEAKER 03 :
Muhammad’s a prophet. This is the prophet. Okay. Called the prophet of.
SPEAKER 10 :
So Allah is like their Jesus, basically.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, Allah, they’re a theocracy, and I’m the Iranian.
SPEAKER 10 :
So what is that belief exactly? Let’s start there. What does Allah believe?
SPEAKER 03 :
They believe in one God, and that God is Allah.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay. Okay, they don’t have any.
SPEAKER 03 :
And we know that for sure. I know that because, yeah, if you study, have you not studied?
SPEAKER 10 :
I don’t know anything about Islam religion at all.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, yeah. So basically it’s just about, you know, they believe that Allah is one God and that, you know, just like a lot of Christians believe there’s going to be a return to Jesus. The Muslim people believe that there’s going to be a return of an Imam, just like we believe there’s going to be an Armageddon. The Muslims also believe it, but it’s not going to be Jesus coming back because Jesus, in their eyes, was a good man or a good prophet, but they don’t believe him to be God.
SPEAKER 10 :
Hold on, Reno. I’ll get to you. The reason why I ask this question is These Middle Eastern countries that Israel just, like you guys said, dropped the first bomb on Iran. What does Israel believe? They don’t believe in Allah, right? No. Well, of course not. But they also don’t believe in Jesus, right?
SPEAKER 03 :
They don’t because, you know, but they believe in the same God as a Christian.
SPEAKER 10 :
So all this is based on one believes in God but doesn’t believe in Jesus. The other believes in Allah and believes Allah is Jesus, if I’m understanding this right.
SPEAKER 03 :
No, not at all. No, they don’t believe Jesus. I’ll reiterate, they believe Jesus was a nice man, a smart man, a nice prophet, but they don’t believe him to be God.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay, okay, okay. So Allah is completely different than Jesus to them.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah. Okay. But what I find amazing about that is, you know, the Muslims… you know, the book of Koran, they mention Jesus while your Bible doesn’t mention Allah at all. That’s kind of… Well, I don’t know if that’s amazing.
SPEAKER 03 :
It’s just history.
SPEAKER 09 :
One book is talking about Jesus. Don’t believe he died on the cross. In my book, my Bible don’t even mention them at all.
SPEAKER 03 :
Have you read the Koran before? Yeah, and can you cite where that’s stated?
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, they said that they believed Jesus was just a prophet. Who’s they? The Koran. Can we look that up real quick, guys?
SPEAKER 10 :
Is there a way he was a good man? So, okay, I guess my question is, how did they come to the difference in that? Because that’s where the focus of war is in the Middle East.
SPEAKER 03 :
and that’s that’s where the prop you know the so-called the prophet of muhammad and um i ain’t trying to step on anybody’s door get no no no no no no for sure our suicide bombed or whatever but um the prophet muhammad basically um had a revelation similar to joseph whatever from the mormon church or whatever it is just a smith yeah where you know he basically had a revelation and that revelation was that you know muhammad i’m sorry allah was god so everybody wants to You know, they put Muhammad in the same line almost as we would put Jesus in line of God. God, this is really good. And people call it 303-477-5600. Except for, you know, Jesus was God manifest in flesh. And Muhammad was just a man, right, that claims that he perceived. But you also got to look at the different aspects because people that say, like Barack Obama said, Muslim’s a peaceful book. It’s not. There’s a lot of scripture in there that basically says if the infidel doesn’t convert, then kill him.
SPEAKER 05 :
So Israel is the Jewish majority. Judaism.
SPEAKER 10 :
Oh, really?
SPEAKER 05 :
Is their foundational religion.
SPEAKER 10 :
And Judaism is different than Christianity, basically.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER 10 :
So then that’s what I’m saying. Okay, so they don’t believe in Jesus, but they believe in God, and they believe that Allah is their God. Not Judaism. Oh, Judaism doesn’t, though. Okay, okay, okay, okay. So then where in the Koran does it say that… That’s their God. Did one of us find that? I’m not familiar with the… Because I know nothing about the Koran, but what I do know is that’s their Bible, though, right?
SPEAKER 03 :
No, it’s… Well, yeah, for lack of a better term. For lack of a better term.
SPEAKER 08 :
No, I read probably about three or four chapters of it, and obviously that’s not… Anything to be able to speak on. The only thing that I gathered from it when I was reading it was just contrary. It would say one thing nice and then one thing bad, one thing nice and one thing bad. Very duality, but not that far off from the duality that we have of a heaven and a hell. What do you mean? Ours is more kind of like whimsical and storytelling and woven in. But, you know, like there is duality of God’s grace and God’s wrath. God, this is good. That’s right.
SPEAKER 05 :
So the Koran honors Jesus as a major prophet and messenger of God born. of the Virgin Mary and as a Messiah.
SPEAKER 10 :
So the Quran does speak of him, though.
SPEAKER 05 :
It recognized him as a prophet, not as the son of God.
SPEAKER 10 :
God, I wish one of us were literate in this. This could be deep. Because it all goes back to… If America is a Christian nation and they’re a Muslim nation and Israel is a Christian nation… Israel is not a Christian nation.
SPEAKER 03 :
Israel is a… Judaism. Yeah. They’re run by the Torah, the… Oh, okay, that’s what I was wondering.
SPEAKER 10 :
So they follow the first five books of the Bible.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, they don’t go beyond into the New Testament.
SPEAKER 10 :
Oh, really?
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, so they still are waiting on the Messiah to come back. They don’t believe that Jesus was the Messiah. They kind of believe similar to. Wow. Actually, I don’t even think they believe similar to the Muslims. I don’t think they believe that Jesus had any type of affiliation. He was just an infidel. For lack of a better word.
SPEAKER 10 :
Oh, then I just learned something on the show. I had no idea. I thought Israel this whole time was this Christian nation. I didn’t know they just followed the Torah.
SPEAKER 08 :
Funny enough, all of them condone war for their own faith.
SPEAKER 10 :
So then I guess that brings up the next question. Why in the world would Israel have a nuclear bomb out of all these Arab nations if they’re not even like… Israel doesn’t have one. Oh, it doesn’t? Because when I looked it up, it said it was part of them.
SPEAKER 03 :
They’ve never admitted to having any type of nuclear weapon. What in the world? People have inferred that. And I would say rightly so. In my opinion, they have a nuclear arsenal because they talk about the Samson program where… If everything else fails, they will drop everybody around them, just like Samson tore down the pillars and killed everybody.
SPEAKER 08 :
So they couldn’t even kill Jesus, man. I’m telling you, the Jewish people couldn’t even kill Jesus. They had to have Pilate do it. So this is… You’re right. Well, it turns interesting now. No, no, no, we can’t kill him. How about you do that for us?
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, it turns interesting because now you’ve got Judaism, you’ve got Christianity, you’ve got Muslim. Where are all these Middle Eastern gods coming from and how do they stimulate? Like you see now all of a sudden we have all these different religions. Did it break off, you know how they say St. Peter was the first pope? Did it all stimulate from that?
SPEAKER 08 :
No, it probably comes from Ishmael, Isaac, the, what was it?
SPEAKER 03 :
But you see what I’m saying? They say Peter was the first pope. Because just so you know.
SPEAKER 08 :
Those born of the free and those born of the slave.
SPEAKER 03 :
With Islam, they also believe in the Torah or the Old Testament as well. Really? They do believe in the book. They also believe in Moses. They believe all the people. You know, I said, you know, I mean, my dad, you know, he was Muslim. So, you know, that’s why I know a lot about it. This is really good, man. And there is two forms of Islam. There’s one that’s, you know, is more considered as more peace or moderate Islam. And then there’s the other one that rules by the sword.
SPEAKER 10 :
So then at the end of the day, when we turn around, like you’re saying, they’re zealots. And I say they’re wackos. Well, at the end of the day, in their minds, they’re not thinking they are. They’re thinking they’re doing their religious part.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, exactly. And that’s my point. So now, you know, it’s probably Heath’s point, too. Wow, this was a deep discussion, man. Yeah, because Heath is basically saying that Trump believes he’s being… influenced you know by god to do this but so in history has that always been the case because if you look at a lot of the generals let’s even say for the civil war you had the north against south both of them believed in the same god when they were going in to do things like even um andrew jack i’m not andrew jackson but um general jackson from the south he basically you know told warned um uh let’s face uh Anyway, they all have a reverence for God, but at the end of the day, how do you defeat that type of mentality when it’s become overzealous?
SPEAKER 05 :
Even Hitler thought he was doing what was right.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, and Hitler actually wanted to, you know, chose Islam. But he was, believe it or not, the dude was pretty smart. He actually chose Catholicism because Catholicism dominated, you know, both government and religion. And he had both government and religion. That works together hand in hand.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, because it was the religio-political movement that had been instituted since like 683. And so they had such a handle on the whole world, if you will.
SPEAKER 03 :
The universal church.
SPEAKER 08 :
That’s why they’re called the Catholic Church. Yeah, Catholicism had Sunday on lockdown for everybody. No money could change hand. They sought to change times.
SPEAKER 10 :
The Sabbath is not Saturday either, right?
SPEAKER 08 :
It’s Sunday. No, that’s the first day.
SPEAKER 10 :
So the first day is Sunday, the Sabbath is Saturday. Sabbath day is Friday night. Oh, okay, okay, okay. So then it goes back to what we’re saying. I think Trump is God sent, so these other countries have to be believing that their leader we just bombed, what was their leader’s name we just killed? We’ve decimated several. Well, their number one leader that we just killed, they must think he was their high priest or whatever sent by God.
SPEAKER 08 :
What is it? What’s it say? The heart is deceitful above all things. But I think the mind comes in second when we fool ourselves to thinking that we’re on the righteous path and that we need to end others’ lives for it.
SPEAKER 03 :
That’s deep. Yeah, it is. You know, sorry, that was a good mic drop right there.
SPEAKER 10 :
No, no, no, no, no, no. It was, because honestly, it makes me… I always feel bad about everybody I beat up. No, no, no, no, no. I really do. Right, but if you had the ability to protect… The people you care about from some wacko, you would do the same thing.
SPEAKER 08 :
That’s what I want to say, though, is I want to minimize from war to just war mentality. War mentality is when we used to stomp in the streets and stomp people in the streets, right? Yeah. So that’s what we do. But I have a conscience, and I feel bad about that stuff. And I may have thought I was right for whatever my reasons were, man, but I wasn’t. I wasn’t. There was no need for it.
SPEAKER 03 :
I like what Brock, I think, was alluding to. So let’s take it to you personally. If someone’s coming in to threaten your wife and your property and your family and whatever, including the animals. i mean are you gonna just go ahead and say hey you know i’m a nice pacifist um take what you need while they’re raping her are you gonna just stand up and say you know what i got this nine millimeter you better get out of my house are you the type that actually calls the cops and hopes that they get there on time i mean right right right i mean that that that’s kind of no no no i’ll go to blows i’ll certainly go to blows uh to begin with but um
SPEAKER 08 :
I don’t know. I mean, God’s given me a mouth to speak. And there are, like all of us as martial artists, we understand that there are many ways out of a situation that doesn’t lead to bloodshed. That’s right. Much less murder.
SPEAKER 10 :
But diplomacy is not going to be one at that.
SPEAKER 08 :
Or murder and self-defense.
SPEAKER 10 :
I mean, you see what I’m saying?
SPEAKER 08 :
We can sit back and say… I don’t know anything to do with these skirmishes or any of these wars or any of the wars of time past. No, for sure. But I just look at the fallout, man. Everybody wants to talk about… I’ve got friends and family who will talk about Vietnam, the Vietnam War, which is the American war to them. But… We’ll count our costs of like, oh, we lost thousands and thousands of soldiers, but we won’t talk about the millions of Asian people that lost their lives during that same time. It’s not it’s not a one to one. And then we’ll talk about how big we are and bad we are because we did that, man. It’s a sickness.
SPEAKER 10 :
Hold on to debunk that. What happens if we don’t join World War Two? What happens if we never get involved in World War II? Germany probably takes over. If it was not, and I don’t care what listeners, if it was not for America, the war would have been completely different. So you have to use that mindset when it comes to these whack jobs.
SPEAKER 08 :
But the same thing is, man, like people don’t even do eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth or anything like that. They do an A-bomb for a Pearl Harbor.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, oh, whoa, yeah, hold, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. I understood that analogy. Hold on, man. Pearl Harbor was, hold on. Hold on, hold on, hold on. They kamikazed our crap in Pearl Harbor. If we don’t turn around and drop an A-bomb on those bulls.
SPEAKER 08 :
We’ve got to hit harder. Strike first, strike hard, strike fast. All right, Johnny.
SPEAKER 10 :
In order to have America keep our globe safe, things like that have to be done. I’m just saying, man. So let me ask you this. Do you believe some conflict… Hold on, hold on. Let me ask you this question and you tell me what you think. Can some conflicts be resolved without war?
SPEAKER 03 :
Yes. Yeah. Yes. You know, Trump. Hold on. Can they really? Yes, they have because Trump’s actually done it. This is the media that never covers the accomplishment that he’s done. This is what’s kind of a little surprising about this war. He went to see Kim Jong-un. He did visit Kim Jong-un, yeah. And then he’s also did things with the DRC. Russia. Well, a little bit with Russia, but more Africa. You know, he got in and created peace deals with the African nations. He’s actually done, look it up, there’s quite a few peace deals he’s done in his second term. Which is back to diplomacy. And he did try diplomacy. This is why, you know, I’m not for Iran obtaining a nuclear weapon because they’re going to use it. They’re not going to think about it. They’re not going to hesitate. They will use it. Because to everybody else who’s not like them, they’re the infidel. That’s just the way they believe. So I am for protecting, but I say let’s – at this point, we need to figure out something – My question was, what happened? What has changed with President Trump’s diplomacy?
SPEAKER 08 :
Policies.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah. What changed? What was the 180 that was done?
SPEAKER 10 :
I think, I mean, I’ve been harboring it the whole entire show, man. You do not let these people get a weapon of mass destruction. At all costs, you do whatever it takes to not. Because at the end of the day, I mean, when have you guys ever been in a classroom? And I saw the videos of it. So I ain’t making this crap up. It was like death to America. Like they were chanting that stuff, burning our flag. When have we ever went to a school and taught our kids that kind of hatred?
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah. And the sad part is it with the liberal party, it’s being taught from child to child to child now. You know, you got to be accepting, but their, their hatred about it, like the no Kings, you know, I just seen that driving in here. It’s like, really? Come on. I mean, he was elected to LA. He didn’t set himself up as a King.
SPEAKER 09 :
But they probably hated America forever. Yeah, well, if you don’t like America… For years, centuries, they probably hated America. That’s what I’m saying. So what, go bomb them now? Because they’re pulling out videos of saying they hate us? They’ve hated us forever.
SPEAKER 10 :
So hold on.
SPEAKER 09 :
It wasn’t about the videos.
SPEAKER 10 :
Hold on. So you and he think they should be able to have a… You two, do you think they should be able to have a nuclear bomb? Let’s get down to it. You two dudes have been debating me the whole time.
SPEAKER 09 :
No, because they’re irresponsible. Their actions have shown they’re irresponsible.
SPEAKER 10 :
What actions is that? I’m ready.
SPEAKER 09 :
I told you.
SPEAKER 08 :
Tourism. I’m ready for an apocalypse. Send them. Send them now.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay, so you’re for them having weapons of mass destruction. What about you?
SPEAKER 08 :
No. What about you? Absolutely not. Absolutely not. Let’s name another country that we think shouldn’t have one. Egypt. Should Egypt have a bomb? Definitely not. Okay, not Egypt. Nope. Europe?
SPEAKER 10 :
Europe.
SPEAKER 08 :
Which country in Europe?
SPEAKER 10 :
The whole continent. Everybody? Should Ukraine have a nuclear bomb? Definitely not. I don’t agree with that either. I don’t. There’s some countries, and listen, I’m not making fun of Ukraine or lying to what they’re going through, but there are certain countries that should not have nuclear bombs because they do not have the mental capacity. Just like there’s some people that should not have guns because they do not have the mental capacity to have them. Just the way it works.
SPEAKER 08 :
In a lot of these countries, they wouldn’t have America as an enemy if America didn’t get involved in all of their stuff, man. We’re so far away. If Iran has a problem with Israel, let that be them.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay, okay, okay. I can kind of go with that.
SPEAKER 03 :
So this is the thing. Brian mentioned there’s like some movie a day without a Mexican or whatever, right? Believe it or not, they actually did have a movie a day without America. They asked that question. If America was not around, how would the world, you know, escape look?
SPEAKER 09 :
Oh, dude.
SPEAKER 03 :
And guess what? People need America. People need us financially. People need us to not be bullied. You know, unfortunately, we are becoming the police officers of the world, right? What’s that movie called? Team America. Team America.
SPEAKER 10 :
Guys, I will say one thing for sure. Maybe we shouldn’t get into every skirmish around the globe. Fine. But at the end of the day, somebody has to turn around and say, you know what? We’re the adult in the room, and this is the avenue we have to take. Because if we don’t, I mean… Are we going to let Russia do it?
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, I think… Russia is definitely not going to win because Russia is an ally of Iran. I think the morals America have, you know, because we’re mostly Christian-based, right? That’s why we back Israel. Because we’re Christian-based. And we live by those morals. And so when you see other countries… doing things that they should not be doing, like Iraq, like Saddam Hussein. I mean, he was killing innocent people. What did he do? I think he killed the Olympia because he didn’t win gold or something like that.
SPEAKER 01 :
In Mexico.
SPEAKER 09 :
But whatever they were doing, immorally, in our eyes, it’s unacceptable. So you go in those countries and you participate. Hmm. Hmm.
SPEAKER 03 :
because well is iraq better now that saddam’s gone i mean saddam actually was holding back the ayatollah right i mean the saddam was you know but no what he was doing to his own people well i get it but sometimes it’s the lesser of two evils you know some of that is unacceptable though like
SPEAKER 09 :
What they were doing was unacceptable. Him and his sons were unacceptable.
SPEAKER 10 :
So let me ask you before we get off air. You think if you take down one dictator, a more ruthless dictator rises to power?
SPEAKER 08 :
It can happen. With great responsibility comes great. Wait, no. Great power? Yeah. Great power comes great responsibility.
SPEAKER 09 :
Can I ask you one question? What? Because you seem like you’re totally against war.
SPEAKER 08 :
I’m against it, just like all of you are.
SPEAKER 09 :
But you believe in the Bible, and you know that the Bible has been all about war.
SPEAKER 08 :
Not a single one of us here has joined the military, man, so we could say… My nephew just enlisted. I can’t use somebody else. No, no, no, for sure. We’ve never been in the military, so I can’t say that any one of us is really for war. I’m for protecting America. It’s easy to say you’re for a war from the sidelines.
SPEAKER 10 :
Men and women have signed up. Men and women have died to protect all five of us in this room, and that’s pretty excessive.
SPEAKER 08 :
But if one really stands for something like a coffee, go to Starbucks.
SPEAKER 07 :
See y’all later. I just hope I can explain what it’s like to be a man. It’s a lonely road. And they don’t care about what you do.
SPEAKER 04 :
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