Amidst the electric backdrop of recent political upheavals, The Mike Gallagher Show delivers an episode fueled with powerful moments and impactful revelations. The episode opens with a contemplation of the sentencing of Donald Trump — a decision that, despite sparing him jail, brands him a felon to a divided crowd. With humor and fervor, Mike calls upon listeners to play an integral role in deciding the program content through a lightning round of responses, and to not shy away from the swirling vortex of American politics and media biases. Furthermore, the episode brings to light the shifting dynamics at
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He’s the happy conservative warrior. From the Relief Factor studios, here’s Mike Deller.
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I came into work today with a dilemma. This hour, this despicable Judge Juan Merchan is going to sentence… Donald J. Trump. Now, he’s not going to get jail time, apparently. He’s not going to get any kind of penalty, except for the ability for the Trump-hating universe to call the 47th president of the United States officially a convicted felon. It makes me so angry, I want to jump out of my skin. And we got a lot of breaking news today. We had the Carter funeral yesterday, and wow, we have hours’ worth of material from those five presidents sitting together with their wives, except the one wife, Michelle Obama, who couldn’t bother to attend because she undoubtedly didn’t want to be in the same room with Adolf Hitler. However, Barack Obama apparently likes Adolf Hitler because they’re chums. They’re buddies. That was wild, okay? We’ll get to all of that, I promise, because it was quite the image to see Barack Obama and Donald Trump laughing, giggling, Kamala glaring at them. She’s sitting in front of them. I’m telling you, the Real Housewives of New Jersey had nothing on this show yesterday. You could do a five-part miniseries on Jimmy Carter’s funeral. Isn’t there a movie, Three Men and a Funeral? Two Women and a Funeral? I don’t know, something. Well, this was five presidents at a funeral, and I could watch it on a loop. I could watch Kamala glaring at Barack for the rest of my life. Just put it on a loop, inject it into my veins. I’m a happy camper. So we’re going to get to that. But before we get to that, here’s my struggle, and this is why I’m going to turn to you. And Teresa, we’re going to do a lightning round of calls. And Teresa, our screener, who is knocking it out of the park. We’re so thrilled to have Teresa join our team, and she is magnificent. Of course, she was a Joey Hudson recommendation, so why wouldn’t she be fantastic? But she’s absolutely amazing, and she’s all excited about the challenge of a lightning round. And Eric, get our lightning round music queued up. I’ll tell you when to start. But Teresa said, I’m ready. I’m just going to get their names, and I’m going to put them up, and we’re going to be really quick. Here’s my lightning round programming question for you. I love it when you’re my program director. I don’t really have a program director. I have a boss. I listen to him. I bounce off. I’ve got a lot of great resources to help me with content. But I love turning to you for advice on how to run this show. I don’t mind. I mean, it is my show. I love doing what I do, but I like advice. So here’s what I need to ask you, Mr. or Mrs. Program Director. In about 20 minutes, Marchand is going to sentence Trump for the stupid, bogus, witch-hunt, ridiculous sham, the 34 felony convictions that Alvin Bragg and company twisted out of an expired misdemeanor. Business records being falsified. It’s the stupidest thing I’ve ever witnessed, and it was only done to try to stop Trump. Well, Juan Marchand… degenerate that he is, he sees fit to provide an audio feed of the sentencing. He wants everybody to hear him sentence Trump. Now, he didn’t allow any cameras or microphones in the trial because we would have all seen, the world would see what a witch hunt it was and what a political joke it was. But now that he gets to sentence him, he wants the world to peek in on that and he wants people to hear it. And because he wants people to hear it, my inclination is I don’t want people to hear it. But I also have a responsibility as a talk show host with millions of weekly listeners to do my job. It is history. And it’s despicable. And it’s awful. But maybe we ought to hear it. Well, we’re about 15 or 20 minutes away. Let me have a bunch of program directors call 800-655-MIKE. Cue the music, Eric. 800-655-6453. Cue the music. Cue the music. And I want you to tell me whether you want me to carry it or not on this show. That’s all. Do you want to hear it or not? I mean, it’s going to make you mad because it makes me sick. I don’t think we can ignore it. I don’t think we can avoid it. I think we ought to be able to confront evil… front and center. But let’s find out. I want to know what you think. And let’s get as many calls in here as we can. 800-655-MIKE 800-655-6453 800-655-6453 Quickly to Jennifer, Dayton, Ohio. Jennifer, should we carry it or not? Jennifer, you there? Maggie in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. Maggie, should we carry it or not? Not hearing anybody, Eric. Maggie, you there? Well… Okay, so we’ve stopped the music. This is like a typical Mike Gallagher production. I swear, I could mess up a one-car funeral. I could screw up. So let’s take a quick timeout. Let’s go ahead and regroup. I’ll try again when we come back. We’ll get the phones to work. And I swear, I’m not kidding you. Everything I try to do, a contest, if I tell a joke about a little person, a little person is in the background. Anything I try to do just gets exploded. And, of course, I blame Eric. So thank you, Eric, for not having the phone set up. So we’ll get this fixed, and then we will take your phone calls. I want to know, and I want to get a good, seriously, and you can text me as well. I mean, I’ve got five texts in a row. Ohio, don’t play it. Michigan, don’t bother. New York City, please don’t air it. Pennsylvania, I’ll turn it off, but I’ll turn you back on afterwards. I think most people don’t want to hear this. And guess what? If you don’t want to hear it, I’m not going to play it. So you keep voting. Either call or text 800-655-MIKE. I know the text line is working. Maybe we can get the phones to work, and then I’ll get some on-air responses as well. There’s one yes from Florida. Do you want to hear… the audio of Judge Juan Marchand sentencing Donald Trump? Or do you just want me to talk about it maybe afterwards? I don’t know. This is a real dilemma for me, and I mean it. I’m really torn on this. 800-655-MIKE, 800-655-6453. 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don’t go changing to try and please me you never let me down before
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Breaking now on the Mike Gallagher Show.
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Here’s the headline from the New York Post. Donald Trump gets no penalty in hush money case, but will still become the first felon in the White House. And that’s what you’re going to hear all day long today. This despicable Manhattan judge, along with the despicable jury of New Yorkers, convicting Trump of 34 felonies over a business records error that was a misdemeanor originally that got turned into 34, and an expired misdemeanor because of the statute of limitations, got turned into 34 felony convictions. The president-elect is the first person convicted of a felony to assume the White House. I’m not going to even use the word justice with this guy. Judge Juan Marchand. who oversaw a trial where jurors heard evidence that Trump paid off the porn star, sentenced Trump to an unconditional discharge. Mershon said, Sir, I wish you Godspeed as you assume a second term in office. Of course, Trump faces no jail time, probation, or fines. Look, does he lose his right to vote? Does he lose his right to keep and bear arms? He does, right? I mean, we’ve stripped the 47th president of the United States from his constitutional rights, like voting, all because the supposed conservative justices on the Supreme Court didn’t have the guts to do the right thing. John Roberts, he’s a lost cause. He’s no conservative. But Amy Coney Barrett? I mean, it was five to four. If only one of the supposed conservative majority of Supreme Court justices had done the right thing, Trump wouldn’t have been subjected to this debacle. Now, I want to share a really nice story. text I got. It’s a lengthy text, but I want to read it to you before we take some more phone calls at 800-655-MIKE. But I really do appreciate the note from Ohio. This is from Columbus, Ohio. Mike, just to set the record straight, in the whole time I’ve listened to you, I think I’ve only disagreed with you twice. I agree with you more than I do anyone, even in my circle of friends. Your opinions are usually very well thought out, and one of the things I like about you is you’re willing… to consider another opinion and even change yours from time to time. I think you may be wrong about Amy Coney Barrett. And let me tell you why. Trump put her in the position she’s in because she takes a contextual, literal approach to the Constitution and the law. Basically, the law means what it says, and it says what it means. You don’t read extra stuff into it. I think she would have liked to have put off Trump’s sentencing, but a justice who believes in the law the way it’s written and the Constitution may not have been able to find a legitimate reason to pause his sentencing, particularly in light of the fact that it isn’t going to interrupt the operation of the government or take away his freedom. Oh, really? Does he have the right to vote? Not anymore. And I do. I appreciate it. The texture goes on and on and ends it with, God bless Mike. Keep fighting the good fight. And Columbus, Ohio, I appreciate your text to me very, very much. But let me give you a very simple response that allows me to say why I think you’re wrong. If that’s true, that you think that she’s a justice who takes a contextual, literal approach to the Constitution and the law, you mean to tell me Neil Gorsuch does not? Do you mean to tell me Brett Kavanaugh does not? You mean to tell me Samuel Alito does not? You think Clarence Thomas does not? Why did four justices last night vote to uphold Trump’s request to throw this sentencing out. She’s not the only one, you know, Ohio. And I’ve got great respect for Clarence Thomas. I’ve got great respect for Alito. I’ve got great respect for Neil Gorsuch. And there are four justices who did the right thing last night and two that did not. And that’s John Roberts and Amy Coney Barrett. I think she was spooked by the protesters. I really believe that’s what her problem is. Her kids were doxxed. Her kids were threatened. She doesn’t like people on her front yard. And she doesn’t want to tick off. the Trump-hating universe. I can’t believe there’s… Because again, all of your points are great, Ohio. Now do the other four. Now do the four true conservative justices. And incidentally, what we’ve seen with this ruling last night is that it truly is a Supreme Court with four justices who are conservatives. Four. Gorsuch, Kavanaugh, Alito… and Clarence Thomas. Deborah’s in Jacksonville, Florida. Hi, Deborah. Welcome to the Mike Gallagher Show. Deborah, are you there? You guys took away control of my phone lines again. Teresa’s grabbing my phone lines. Let’s try it again. Deborah, are you there? Hi, Deborah. I am here. Sorry about that.
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How are you?
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Yes, loud and clear.
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I’m doing all right. I had a similar incident in 2019. I had a constitutional case before the D.C. Court of Appeals.
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With all due respect, Debra, I’m so sorry. I don’t want to get sort of bogged down or distracted with a personal case that you had where you had a bad experience in the court. So my apologies. Feel free to write me a note if you don’t mind, Debra, and I’ll make sure we take a look at it. Mike at MikeOnline.com. Dave’s in Colorado Springs. Hi, Dave.
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Hey, good morning, Mike. What I see happening today was that… They finally put the last knot in the rope of this coup with malicious intent towards Trump. And the good thing of it is I believe that gag order is going to be lifted as of today.
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You know, I’m glad you mentioned that, Dave, because I think the gag order is over. And I expect Donald J. Trump’s going to go DEFCON 1 on Juan Merchan. The audio is being released. We’re going to take a moment to regroup, and the audio playback is now being released, and we’ll share with you what it sounded like when this awful, awful travesty of justice took place. Look, I appreciate all the texters who are saying, hey, success is the ultimate vindication, and that’s true. In 10 days, we’ll be in Washington, D.C., broadcasting from the president’s inauguration. I’m going to get to go to a couple of inaugural balls I got the tux ready to go. I got the overcoat, the gloves, the scarf. It’s going to be chilly, but we’ll be there. And I don’t want to get too down. It just frustrates me when people can do the right thing and they don’t. It just is annoying to me. It’s just aggravating. But we’re going to get through it all together. 19 minutes before the hour, portions of our show brought to you by MyPillow and the Patriots Alaska Cruise. Details on the big trip coming up in August. And again, the audio playback of the Trump sentencing next here on the Mike Gallagher Show.
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Said I don’t want to go. Lord, look at how the people stand. Said I don’t want to go.
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He’s the happy conservative warden. From the Relief Factor studios, here’s Mike Deller.
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Gird your loins, because you’re going to hear, we’ve got the first convicted felon in the White House in the history of America. A finale to this sham in New York City. Judge Juan Marchand sentenced President Trump to no penalty, no jail time, no anything. It’s called an unconditional release. But nonetheless, his haters are going to get to refer to him now officially as a convicted felon. Here was the president a few moments ago. And I can’t wait to get the reaction from Brad Parscale, who’s going to join us in just a couple of moments. Let me just quickly play. The audio was released because this judge, who didn’t allow any microphones or cameras in the sham trial, made sure that at least the audio portion of his sentencing was released to the public. President Trump appeared virtually on screen and was beamed into the New York City courtroom.
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It’s been a political witch hunt. It was done to damage my reputation. so that I’d lose the election and obviously that didn’t work. And the people of our country got to see this firsthand because they watched the case in your courtroom. They got to see this firsthand and then they voted and I won and got the largest number of votes by far of any Republican candidate in history. And won, as you know, all seven swing states. Won conclusively all seven swing states. And won the popularity, the popular vote by millions and millions of votes, and they’ve been watching your trial. So they understood it.
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That was President Trump addressing the court during his preposterous sentencing today. And talk about a great guest to react in real time. You know, the media world has been following with great interest the news that Salem Media Group, the company that I’ve worked for for the past, well, 24 years, announced the appointment of Brad Parscale as chief strategy officer. Now, Brad, of course, you recognize his name and his face. He was just pretty revolutionary in the role he played as digital and media director for Trump’s campaign in 2016. But he’s been a digital architect and entrepreneur for decades before that, and now our company, Salem, is going to utilize his skills and his insights as our chief strategy officer. That’s kind of neat to be able to welcome a guy who doesn’t give a lot of interviews, but what an honor it is to get to meet Brad Parscale. Do I call you chief, commander, general? What’s the right title, Brad? How are you? Okay, we lost audio. Doggone it. Okay, we’ll try to get the audio fixed here and figure it out. All that big buildup and no audio for our chief strategy officer. So we’ll try to figure out why we lost the audio. And this guy is pretty brilliant in terms of – there we go. We got your audio back, Brad. Was that on your end or ours?
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Yeah, I think so.
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Okay.
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Yes, there it is.
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It’s nice to meet you, and I appreciate you joining us here. I know you don’t do a lot of interviews, but this is pretty timely because you know President Trump as well as anybody. You worked closely with him in 2016, of course, and here comes this dark day where he’s sentenced today in a New York City courtroom. Just if you can, I want to talk about your role with Salem and media and digital in general, but give me your initial reaction to this sentencing today in New York City, Brad.
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Well, first, I’ve been with the Trumps for 15 years. I was the digital media director, media director of 16. I was campaign manager in 2020 until July of 2020. And then I stepped down and still continued with the software and data. In 2024, our software powered the Trump campaign. So, you know, I’m still with him today. Look, I was pissed today. I’ve been texting with Eric and Don Jr. and Laura and everybody. This is… This is just them with framing. This is they’ve lost. They don’t have much left to do. And what they’re trying to do is to be able to say convicted felon. They want to try to set up a whole series of framing to win the 26 elections in the House and the Senate. This is all they’re in trouble. They know they lost on immigration. They know they’ve lost. They don’t have a lot of framing battle left. The left is in a lot of turmoil, even worse than 17. They need to find a new brand. They need to find a new way to get people to donate against Trump. And this is it. This is their moment to try to get something to capture, to raise money and to start a war for 26 and to create a media narrative. There’s nothing more. Trump knows this. The family knows this. Anybody that knows politics knows this is all it’s about is to get a new hook and put new bait on the hook to bring in new donors and to try to get them riled up to start a new movement.
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And yet, on the other hand, nothing can take away from this light we see on the horizon. In 10 days, he’s going to get inaugurated. And I keep thinking about the term a golden era. You know, we’re returning to a president that believes in the rule of law, who believes in our borders, who believes in our sovereignty. We’ve got a president who wants to drill and use our own resources. We’ve got a president who, you know, his first term, there were no wars – breaking out all over the world. I mean, he’s inheriting a mess. But gosh, we’ve got a House and a Senate majority of Republicans. We can’t lose sight of the optimism that millions of us are feeling right now, Brad.
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Yeah, I mean, look. We also have a President Trump that I think is different than the President Trump I worked for in 2017, you know, for years. I think he’s been—the humility after the assassination attempt that came across him, I think the team he has around him—you’ve got to remember, in 2017— Nobody really, we’d won the election, but nobody had actually ever run the government before. So now you have a Trump administration that’s going to come in firing on day one. I think there’s less anti-Trump people, you know, let’s just, let’s not forget the Paul Ryan, you know, the ASCO of trying to do the medical thing, the McCain, everybody, you have now a party that is Trump. There’s a lot of data out there shows now that we’ve moved from the Reagan party to the Trump party. And if you start putting all that together, I think you’re going to see a much more successful campaign. I think we have a real target for reconciliation. We have a target on immigration. We have a party that’s really more aligned. Now, I wish we had a bigger majority in the House. I still think Speaker Johnson has a lot of work in front of him. We have we have a slim majority. So we have to instead of fighting to, you know, just save the you know, this, you know, these majorities, we need to grow them in 2026. But again, this is all about them having a narrative to fight because they’re losing on all the policies right now. Sure. And they know and they need a message. And the only thing that’s really worked for them in the last five, six years has been hate Trump.
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I want to pull the curtain back a little bit because I consider this audience family, my extended if sometimes dysfunctional family. I’ve gotten to do this with Salem for 24 years. The Salem Media Group is different. You know, there’s something different about the Salem way of doing things. And for people who listen to us and watch us and, you know, Town Hall and Red State and all of our properties that we own and our radio stations around the country and Salem News Channel, all of our assets are There’s a Salem way of operating. Our mantra is sort of, you know, we want to do good as a company while doing good for others. I mean, in December, my show, we raised almost a quarter of a million dollars for the Prison Fellowship Angel Tree campaign. Our audience donated $240,000 to send Bibles and Christmas presents to the children of incarcerated people in America. I mean… This audience, we’re connected in an amazing way. And I’ve been reading and hearing about your meetings already with Salem. It was announced a couple of weeks ago or a week or so ago that you’re going to be the chief strategy officer for the Salem Media Group. Can you talk a little bit about your perspective about where Salem sits right now as a media company, what the future holds, and frankly, what your role is going to be as chief strategy officer?
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Well, I think it was a little divine. I’ve gone through kind of a Christian awakening for myself over the last four or five years. I lost two children years ago, and they would probably be about, you know, that really awakened me into what got me into my life. And also what’s happened in this country. What was turned for me to visually see what cancel culture and the destruction of the Marxist leftist socialist machine uh awakened me but let’s let’s just talk about salem for a minute it’s not about me um salem’s in a great position um i had this vision about four months ago and i literally a dream about what i thought what the importance of salem could be and i was driving a month after after that that vision i had i ended up getting into a bus with a board member of salem and telling them about my vision and that board member said you know brad that could be possible Within a week, I was talking to Ed Essinger at Salem and having a meeting where we discussed it. Within 60 days of that, my investment group I represent called Waterstone had made a purchase, and we had made a deal to make Salem debt-free. That all happened from my vision to 90 days, and only God could make that happen. And I truly believe that. And I believe that now Salem is one of almost the only almost every other media company that would say competitors are in this market have nearly half a billion in debt, two billion in debt, big numbers. Salem Media has a balance sheet right now that is. The best in the business. I believe it has unwavering values. And I think God is seeing that and the people see that. I think that’s what you were talking about a minute ago, these unwavering values. And I believe right now it’s in a position to be a significant player over the next four years with this Trump administration. I also believe we’re going through, we’re about to be 250 years old as a nation. A lot of countries don’t make it past that in the history of the planet. I believe that Trump has torn down what was destroying our country, almost like, you know, Samson in the Bible and things. And what we’ve had to do is now we’re rebuilding. And I think the next 250 years of America look good. And it’s companies like Salem who are going to drive that message. There’s a lot of uneasiness in the media world right now. I mean, look at the Washington Post just exploding. You know, there’s a war for truth. And I think Salem is going to be a leader in that truth. And I think people are looking for that information. And the reason why I helped bring this investment to turn Salem into this powerhouse plus join is because I believe tremendously that Salem is the voice of the spiritual reckoning and revitalization that’s occurring in America with Trump. with the entire thing it’s if you look at the day i came in in 27 16 to help run this campaign it was i had to have three armed guards people wanted to kill me i couldn’t i was being cancelled from everything i’ve been cancelled from everything because what they wanted to do is exile us you can’t you can’t say anything like this And today, I can walk down the street with my MAGA hat on. I can say what I want. I can say First Amendment’s been protected. It is a tired, different world than it was eight years ago in America. And I think that’s mostly because of Trump and his family. And I want to make sure that Salem is the strongest voice of that message.
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I had a friend who’s in another media company much bigger than this one, and they’re facing all kinds of challenges. And he is in amazement. He said it absolutely is a God thing the way this deal came together so quickly. You couldn’t have put this thing together if you spent years strategizing a way to do it. And it was. I believe that this is a divine intervention. And I will tell you internally, everybody is so excited about Brad Parscale joining our team and what you’re going to be able to provide in terms of your insights and your expertise in the digital space and what we do on air. We’re just all so excited. On a personal note, of course, and I know your story, I’ve followed your career for years. Our hearts go out to you and your wife over your loss. And that is a life-changing experience that I know that people can relate to. And I just feel so honored to be able to meet you this way. I can’t wait to spend some time with you in person very soon. And, again, you’re kind of a recluse with interviews. You don’t do a lot of them. So thank you for coming on the Mike Gallagher Show. I know our audience appreciates it very, very much, and best of luck. Keep fighting the good fight, and can’t wait to work with you as our Chief Strategy Officer for the Salem Media Group. Thank you, Brad, very, very much, and Happy New Year.
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Thank you, Mike, for having me on.
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Appreciate it. Brad Parscale joining us, our new chief strategy officer. You know, you’ve heard me say in the last few days that 2025 is going to be the year for Gallagher with X and Facebook and digital and Instagram. And I mean it. I meant it. That’s right. And he’s the reason why. We’re going to end, again, Salem Media Group now poised to be a lot less stress-free than some of our other media competitors and Hey, we can’t do it without you. Got a lot of breaking news today. Let’s get right back to it here in the Relief Factor studios from the upstate of South Carolina, where I’m getting ready for some snow and ice as well. 20 past the hour. Welcome in. Christmas means giving, and for my money, Christmas means MyPillow. Make it a MyPillow Christmas for somebody on your list because the Christmas extravaganza is well underway. Because a big box retailer canceled an order, Mike Lindell has thousands of MyPillows to move. Well, he wants to pass the savings on to you, so check out this offer. You can order a standard classic MyPillow, and it’s normally $49.98 for just $45. 1488 with promo code Mike G. Limit of 10. This is the pillow that started it all, the pillow that never goes flat, stays nice and cool all through the night. You can throw it in the washer and the dryer as often as you want. You can get a classic standard MyPillow for 1488 with promo code Mike G. A queen size, normally $69.98. You’ll get it for just $18.88 with promo code Mike G. Or a king size. Normally $79.98. You can order it for $19.88 apiece. Limit $10, please, during Mike’s incredible Christmas extravaganza from MyPillow.com. Look, if you haven’t been to the site in a while, you can get all your Christmas shopping done by going to MyPillow.com. Look for the Mike Gallagher Specials Square. Click on that box, and then with any order you place, enter the promo code MikeG, and you’ll save big. MyPillow.com. Promo code MikeG. MyPillow.com, promo code MikeG, or call 800-928-6034, 800-928-6034. It’s the Christmas extravaganza sale going on right now at MyPillow.
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I promise to always love. Cause I think the whole world can’t change that.
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Mike Gallagher.
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No, you can’t change that. We can’t change what happened today. We can’t change any of it. We just have to go forward. I saw a great note on social media from somebody who said, when your smug liberal friend says, oh, Trump is a convicted felon, ha ha, your reply can be, so was Martin Luther King Jr., so was Nelson Mandela, so was Mahatma Gandhi, and Jesus Christ. Have fun. ticking them off even more. Let’s get your reaction to it. Leif in Ronkonkoma, New York, as we go back to your calls. Hey, Leif, welcome to the Mike Gallagher Show. How are you?
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Hi, Mike. Doing well.
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Good, good, good. Give me your reaction to what you just heard from Judge Juan Marchand.
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I think President Trump should say thank you very much. This is the icing on the cake of all the lawfare nonsense that has helped America revote him into being the next president of the United States.
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You know, you’re right. It’s a backfiring the likes of which I’ve never really seen. I’ve been at this a long time, 40 plus years. I’ve never seen America respond as collectively as we did to the lawfare. You know, we can talk all about how bad a candidate Kamala Harris was. We can talk all day. And we’ve got a lot of great, great Republicans in leadership. We could talk all day long about, you know, the Democrats and illegal immigration and crime and the lawlessness. I think it was the lawfare. Americans said, wait a minute, if they can do this to him, they can do it to me. That’s why Americans said, I’ll crawl over broken glass to vote for this guy because we can’t let him get away with it. And they didn’t. In 10 days, we’re going to be in D.C. covering an inauguration that shouldn’t have happened. Look, when you’ve got the whole beast behind one candidate, the odds are against you. Something’s different now. Something has changed. Here’s cut number one. I want you to hear Ron DeSantis. Cut three. Look, it started out DeSantis. There were DeSantis people. There were Marco Rubio people. But it was Trump and only Trump who could get it done. Trump, I’m not sure that anybody else… would have beaten Kamala Harris, to be honest with you. You could argue that. That’s fine. Ron DeSantis is a tremendous governor. Ron DeSantis has got an incredible political future. I don’t know what it’s going to look like in 2028 and beyond, but I know that he has no problem coming to the defense of President Trump. I know he has no issues whatsoever with defending Trump. our Constitution and the rule of law. Listen to what happened yesterday when a reporter tried to stir the pot, bring up Trump and Trump’s criticism of Gavin Newsom and the horrible, horrible way Democrat leaders have handled the wildfires, particularly that mayor, Karen Bass, who declared a state of emergency, then hopped on a plane and went to Africa. as her city was burning. Inexcusable, unforgivable. Maybe the voters of California are going to wake up someday. But in the meantime, here’s what Ron DeSantis said when a reporter tried to stir the pot.
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Is it appropriate for the president-elect or a president to be criticizing?
SPEAKER 02 :
Is it appropriate for people in your industry to try to create division and to try to create narratives anytime these things happen? Now, you’re not as interested in doing that because Newsom is a D. If Newsom was a Republican, you guys would have it nailed to the wall for what they’re doing over there. And I know we’ve dealt with it. We just assume in Florida anytime something happens, it’s going to be politicized by the media. So you guys sitting in judgment of Donald Trump, I mean, excuse me, I think your track record of politicizing these things is very, very bad. Okay, last question.
SPEAKER 13 :
I mean, that is so good. That’s Ron DeSantis just shutting it down. Game, set, match. Got a lot of great Republicans. Not only in positions of authority now who are probably going to have more prominent positions. What does 2028 look like? I mean, Trump gets one term. J.D. Vance as the Republican nominee? Does Ron DeSantis go back for another bite of the apple? Who are we going to see? There’s a lot of rumors. Somebody told me, oh, you know, Nikki Haley is coming back. A lot of rumors here in South Carolina, too, about people like, what’s her name, Nancy Mace. She wants to run for governor. Dave is in Governor Ron DeSantis’ state of Florida, Callahan, Florida, to be exact. Hey, Dave, welcome back.
SPEAKER 09 :
Hey, Mike, love your show. I just wanted to say… That whole thing with the sentencing, I just giggled through the whole thing because they don’t understand that this is what gave President Trump a landslide victory, just what this guy just did. It’s hilarious, and it’s not going to hurt President Trump one bit, I don’t think.
SPEAKER 13 :
I don’t either. And it is amazing, Dave, how they have no self-awareness, do they? They don’t even realize how their own actions have backfired.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, I just had trouble understanding where their mindset is. And that’s great because in 28, we’re going to carry on Trump’s vision with another victory. I believe the country’s eyes are open and we’re going to carry forward.
SPEAKER 13 :
No, no question about it. Thanks for your kind words. And, you know, MAGA is here to stay. You know, an America First agenda is here to stay. But we’ve got to deliver. We must deliver. Trump has, and he will. I feel very confident about it. And he’s got some unlikely allies. Look at John Fetterman. This guy just blows my mind. Here’s cut 13. This is Pennsylvania Senator John Fetterman talking about going to Mar-a-Lago. He’s going to be the first sitting Democrat in the Senate to formally meet with the incoming president of the United States. You know, the rest of them are busy calling Trump fascist and Hitler. Not this guy.
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I am not the senator for just Democrats in Pennsylvania. I’m everyone’s senator in Pennsylvania. And so it’s just having a conversation with the president.
SPEAKER 13 :
So how about what Trump said, incidentally, and we’re so excited about the inauguration. And don’t miss our inauguration coverage. I’m making Joey Hudson suffer through the snow and the cold and the bitter winds. I’ll be in the confines of my studio. kind of anchoring. But I’m going to see if Joey’s going to be able to co-anchor. We’re working out a lot of that. But he’s going to be in the stands at the inauguration. We’ll be bringing you all the coverage here. And to our affiliates all over the country, we’ll be covering the entire inauguration on our show, leading right up to it. Here’s what Trump said, cut 16, about the drones and how we’re going to learn about these mysterious drones the day after his inauguration.
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Do you have any idea what ever happened to the drones? What happened to drones? Well, you said that you thought the government knew what was happening with these drones over New Jersey. There were some by Bedminster.
SPEAKER 06 :
I don’t know. They were over Bedminster a lot, so I can imagine. I’m going to give you a report on drones about one day into the administration because I think it’s ridiculous that they’re not telling you about what’s going on with the drones.
SPEAKER 13 :
I love the way he talks. What about the drones? What do you mean about the drones? What about the drones? What drones? The planes. The planes. Never forget, in Springfield, Ohio, they’re eating the dogs. They’re eating the cats.
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I don’t really like working. I’m going to need a priority parking space. I only work remotely. Can I bring my dog to work? You’re triggering me. Is this interview almost over? What’s your policy on paying employees to attend protests? I demand eight weeks of vacation. I need at least 12 weeks of paid vacation. I’m going to need a lot of mental health days. Do you have a game room? My pronouns are Zs and Zs.
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Mike Gallagher. Every day, Mike visits with Mark Davis, morning host on 660 AM, The Answer in Dallas. Here’s today’s Eminem experience.
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Let me tell you a story about the Los Angeles fire because there is an image that a lot of us who aren’t near it have. Oh, it’s a bunch of rich Hollywood celebrities. I haven’t yet got formal permission from the person impacted, but it is somebody in the Salem family. That I know well, somebody who has already been through a lot and that person who, you know, is not a wealthy person, lost his entire home, lost all his possessions. He was renting his home and he thought he had renter’s insurance and the renter’s insurance expired in September and he didn’t know it. He’s wiped out. He’s got nothing. He’s living with his mom. He’s obviously just devastated. And these are not all wealthy people. People have that image. It’s just a bunch of movie stars. And I’m sorry for Billy Crystal, and I’m sorry for these famous stars who’ve lost their homes. And James Woods and all these folks. But they are multimillionaires, and they’re going to be okay. A lot of people, like in Western North Carolina, frankly, who aren’t going to be okay.
SPEAKER 14 :
You mentioned insurance. So a lot of people are taking the headline as the insurance companies canceled a lot of people’s insurance in Southern California. Would you like to know why? And it’s kind of funny. I don’t know what your lifelong experience with insurance is. Mine is, thank God they exist. They have helped me in car insurance and home insurance at various junctures. I’m glad the industry exists. But over my lifetime, I’m going to pour squillions of dollars into insurance payments and not get a fraction of it back. But you know what? If the worst ever happens, I’m glad they’re there. About the industry, I would say. They’re not a charity. It is every insurance company’s job to pay out as little as they humanly possibly can while still technically doing what they need to do. And it’s also their job to extract as much from us as they can without us changing companies. That’s called business. Having laid all that down, the reason insurance got canceled in Southern California is companies looked at the fact that, wow, here’s somebody with a $10 million house in a huge apartment. fire zone we might need to raise the premiums that’s a hundred percent fair and the state of california said you can’t do that and so the insurance company said flipped them off and said see ya and i don’t blame the insurance companies for that well i’m going through it in florida i’ve gone through it since i lived here because the the same situation exists in the state of florida and it’s one of the big challenges that governor desantis faces yeah well there you are living on the gulf of america
SPEAKER 13 :
Right. Tons of insurers have left Florida. They won’t even insure people. People get their insurance canceled left and right. And it’s because of the high risk with the hurricanes and all the damage. And now we’ve been, you know, this double whammy with these hurricanes we got recently. And, you know, speaking of insurance, I know we’re going to wind up talking about something that I don’t want to talk about. This is my 65th birthday year. As a result, I am getting hit up from every insurance agent in America. Oh, Mike, I know April is your 65th birthday. Let me give you your Medicare advice plan. And they’re all hitting me up. And what I don’t know about Medicare, and I don’t even want to know about Medicare because I don’t want to acknowledge that I’m going to be 65 in a couple months. I’m pretending I’m 39 and holding, I think, as Jack Benny was. But I, honest to gosh, have no idea how to navigate this. I mean, just a goofy question. I’m obviously insured through Salem. Right. Do I need insurance through Medicare? The short answer is no. Right. I don’t, right? But I have to take some part of it, don’t I? Or I get penalized.
SPEAKER 14 :
You can. It’s funny. I, because I’m… Respect your elders. I’m 67. So you’ve been through this? Yeah. And they basically said, you don’t really have to. Isn’t it cheaper? It might be smart to. Yes, there are benefits to going ahead and playing. Not abandoning your corporate. Because the thing that you and I do have in common is they’re going to have to drag our rotting corpses out of a studio. Because we’re going to do this until we die.
SPEAKER 13 :
Oh, I’ll be 99 years old. Who can stop doing this? Who can stop doing this? Joe Biden will look like a spring chick compared to you and me in about 20 years.
SPEAKER 14 :
Since we got about two minutes, one of the reasons that we can’t stop doing this is every once in a while the news simply gives us this. Can we please do two minutes of Carter funeral? First of all, God rest his soul. But can we do two minutes of the interactions? These were my takeaways. Clinton likes Bush, resents Obama, kind of digs Trump. Bush likes Clinton and Obama, hates Trump’s guts. Obama resents Clinton, likes Bush, kind of digs Trump. And Trump has no ill will toward Clinton or Obama, but has forgotten Bush was ever born.
SPEAKER 13 :
I could do two hours on the funeral yesterday. I watched it on a loop. I watched Kamala Harris glare at Barack and Trump, giggling like a couple of best friends forever. Yes, it was so cordial, so cordial. Kamo looks back over her shoulder at them and then looks forward and sighs like, oh, you can almost hear her voice in her head. Oh, my Lord.
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And why do you think? Was it because that’s a club I could have been a part of, the ex-president’s club? Or is it because they’re getting along and being gracious to each other, which is a DNA strand I just don’t have?
SPEAKER 13 :
It’s all of the above. She can’t believe. But let’s talk about the classlessness of Karen Pence. Unbelievable. And it breaks my heart, the classlessness of George W. Bush. Now, he ignored him, too. And W., I love the guy. I really do. I’ve met him. I’ve spent time. I had a peanut butter and jelly sandwich with him once in his office in Dallas. Bush hates Trump more than Obama does. Clinton and Obama don’t hate Trump. Bush does. And it’s personal for George W. Bush because of what Trump did to Jeb. However, however. However, if you meet somebody at a funeral that you don’t like, you can at least give a modicum of graciousness and say, you know, hello, shake his hand. You don’t have to give him a sloppy kiss, but at least be polite. Karen Pence sitting there like a schoolmarm with her little, her program. And Melania tried to extend her hand of, you know, a hand of, you know, a hand shake to her. Karen Pence wouldn’t even look up at her.
SPEAKER 14 :
What the heck is wrong with these people, Mark? And on the what the heck beat for our roughly last 60 seconds, the reason Trump and Obama were able to sit right next to each other and share those pleasant moments was because Michelle was not there. I’m not a mind. She was apparently, what, vacationing?
SPEAKER 13 :
Oh, yeah, sure.
SPEAKER 14 :
Vacation, my foot. So I don’t know what it was. I can’t. Oh, I know what it was. She didn’t want to be in the room with Donald Trump. I think that’s a better theory than she’s completing her transition surgery, which was everybody’s favorite online.
SPEAKER 13 :
And frankly, I have more respect for staying away than I do watching people sit there and not shake somebody’s hand and act like a jerk, act like a tool.
SPEAKER 14 :
I’m going to make them equally dismissive and equally deserving of scorn. She should have been there. It was an incredible— Who cares? Well, the short answer is I don’t. But to not show up because Trump broke you is just, you know, so spare me. First of all, spare me the Christ-like habits of the Pence couple. Well, Mike was very gracious to him.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, yesterday he was, but over the past few months. At least he didn’t sit there pouting like his wife did. I couldn’t believe it. I mean, I just can’t believe grown people—the Mark Davis mandate, Trump derangement syndrome makes nice people mean and makes smart people stupid.
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Makes unchristian people—makes Christian people unchristian.
SPEAKER 13 :
And I love me some George W. Bush, but my gosh, I couldn’t believe when I saw that. Come on, given—and he gave Obama the little belly tap, and he’s a— W is a hail fellow, well-met guy. And I love him. I really do like him. But I can’t believe that Trump does this to people. He just gets it. And incidentally, forget just being polite to somebody who’s also at a funeral. He’s the incoming president of the United States. You’re part of a very small club, W. That’s right. What’s wrong with you? And guess what? The American people, George W. Bush, not you, the American people said, this is the guy we want. Yeah. And maybe what is awful to admit, and I say this with a broken heart because I do love the guy, Donald Trump is light years more popular than George Bush ever was.
SPEAKER 14 :
Of course. A thousand times more. The Bush era of the Republican Party is forgotten.
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