Join Bill Gunderson as he takes listeners through the financial landscape in this spirited end-of-year episode. Discussions cover the surprising strength of the airline industry, market expectations for 2025, and how tech giants like Amazon and NVIDIA continue to maintain their competitive edges. Rumble’s potential to carve out a niche against established players like YouTube is also explored, alongside new market entries such as Tras Pharmaceutical making waves with antiviral innovations.
He’s been seen on CNBC, the Fox News Channel, and the Fox Business Channel. His articles can be found on MarketWatch, Seeking Alpha, TheStreet.com, and many other places. He’s the author of the weekly Best Stocks Now newsletter and the inventor of the Best Stocks Now app. He’s president of Gunderson Capital Management. Here is professional money manager Bill Gunderson.
SPEAKER 07 :
And welcome to the Tuesday, the hardest working guys in the industry doing a live show on Christmas Eve morning. And we are live here on this December 24th. And I’ll tell you what, looks like the market has got a little present wrapped up under the tree right now. We’ll see if it can last during the day. But right now you’ve got the Dow up. ah the dow is up 94 points to 43,001 of course it’s been to 45,000 we’ve seen a few thousand points shaved off the dow since the trump election the s&p 500 is up 30 right now that puts it back above 6,000 puts it at 6,004 that’d be a nice little stocking stuffer but the big one here the nasdaq uh 19,917 up 152 on the day and all of these indexes are near their highs for the year it’s always good to close off a year knock on wood we’ve got seven days to go at the highs the Russell 2000 not participating today. It’s down a couple of points. Interest rates have been moving higher here recently. In fact, interest rates are closing in on their 52-week high, which is not a good thing. And the market’s good.
SPEAKER 06 :
It’s pretty interesting that you’ve got that and the market. Yeah, exactly.
SPEAKER 07 :
We’re at 4.62 on the 10-year high. 4.70 is the 52-week high. So welcome to today’s Best Stocks Now show with professional money manager Bill Gunderson, president of Gunderson Capital Management, on this Christmas Eve. I think Christmas Eve actually is my favorite day of the year. You know, Christmas is like, eh, you know, it’s the buffet.
SPEAKER 06 :
A little free-for-all sometimes, yeah.
SPEAKER 07 :
I like the anticipation and just the magic in the air and everything like that. My least favorite day is the day after Christmas when it’s trash day and you’ve got all the boxes and the wrappers and everybody’s headed home and everybody’s sick and full. Taking stuff back. Yeah, it doesn’t fit. This doesn’t look right. Okay, anyways, but we’re here on this Christmas Eve and As always, we’ve got a lot of best stocks now to talk about here today. There’s always something happening, although this is a slow time in the market. There’s not any companies reporting earnings. There’s not a lot of mergers and acquisitions this time of year. Not a lot of breakthroughs and this and that. But there’s still plenty to talk about. as always in the markets. And we are having a good day. I don’t know why. Interest rates are going up. I think that’s the most notable chart there. We’re at 4.63. The high for the year is 4.70. And I would not want to see the 10-year break above that 4.70 area and head towards 5%. That would not be good. I mean, that’s restrictive on the economy for sure. And I mean, even though the Fed has been cutting rates, cutting rates, we just got another 25 on top of a 50. And it has done not a thing to the bond market. The market has taken it right back up despite the Fed’s rate cuts.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, and it does put a lid on valuations, right? You’ve been talking about us being at elevated P.E. ratios, and as interest rates go up, there’s kind of less conviction in that higher P.E. ratio because theoretically it should go the other direction when rates are high.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yes, but we will take this rally. Yeah. Yale Hirsch had a theory. He died a couple years ago, but he wrote the Stock Traders’ Almanac. His theory was if you don’t get that Christmas rally, look for a bad year coming the following year. Anyways, I don’t know if it holds true. I like statistics. I’m a statistics kind of guy, but it just seems to be that no two years are alike. I understand maybe 60% of the time, 65% of the time, but I still think every year is very, very unique. The sell in May and go away and all this kind of thing, I think it depends upon the year and upon the conditions at the time. Well, we had a little gain in the markets yesterday. The Dow was up 67%. The NASDAQ was up yesterday 192 points. Pretty good day, actually, despite the 10-year rising by 7 basis points to 4.60%. And as I said, the high for the year is 4.70. Higher for longer. That is one of the topics that’s in the news today. Does higher for longer, meaning higher interest rates for a longer period of time, which is one of the surprises for 2024 for me was how stubborn interest rates were yesterday. despite the cuts by the Fed. What if the Fed hadn’t done those cuts? Where would we be? I don’t know. Maybe we would be right where we’re at anyways. I thought NVIDIA had a really good day today. It is following through today. NVIDIA has kind of been dead in the water here for several months. Now you’ve got a constructive chart on it. It’s hitting 141. We haven’t seen it up at that level for about a month or so. And it continues to trade in a sideways band right now between 132 and 152. And we’re kind of right in the middle of that band at 141. I still like NVIDIA from a valuation point of view. I think it has a lot of upside potential. I don’t think it’s done by any stretch of the imagination. And we continue to own NVIDIA in our premier growth portfolio. It’s one of just 18 stocks there. We own it in our dividend and growth portfolio because it does pay a little dividend. It’s only one of about 17 stocks in that portfolio. Just giving you an idea of how special a company has to be to make it into our portfolios. We’re very strict. And it’s also in our ultra-growth portfolio where we first initiated a position a long time ago in NVIDIA. And I like that chart on NVIDIA.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, it’s interesting. You’ve talked about it kind of just almost being forgotten to a certain extent. And if you look at the volume chart, you can see how excited. You can see the volume in the first half of the year versus the volume in that name in the second half of the year. It’s pretty striking. It’s almost like everybody already owns it. And so they’re maybe just holding it and not trading much shares.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, everybody who could own it already owns it. If you’re getting in now, I still don’t think it’s too late myself. Now, this would be the fourth day of up movement on decent volume in NVIDIA, which it has not had in a long time. So there seems to be a little bit of interest there. coming back into NVIDIA.
SPEAKER 06 :
And a 47 forward multiple seems palatable. I mean, look at the earnings growth figures. I mean, I’ve seen some pretty elevated PE ratios as of late, and 47 doesn’t sound as bad.
SPEAKER 07 :
I haven’t seen anybody come along with the competitive chip. Probably will come out of China. I mean, I’m sure they’re reverse engineering it while we’re speaking here today, trying to figured out, but AMD doesn’t seem to have an answer. The one that seemed to have the answer was Amazon that came up with an AI chip, and that’s helping Amazon also. So anyways, look, tomorrow the market’s going to be closed, obviously, Christmas Day. Closing at 1 o’clock today. And closing at 1 o’clock today, just before the grandkids hit. You know, I’m glad I’m going to get everything done, and then I hear that pitter-patter. Coming up to Grandpa’s door, knock on the door, and there they are. Okay, we’ll have a lot. We’ll have a crew here. I’ve got the train set ready and ready to play all day once we get through this trading until 1 o’clock. I play until 1 o’clock. Then the real work begins when the grandkids get here. Okay, Rumble was up 81% yesterday. And, yes, an investment by Tether, which is the stable Bitcoin. Right? That’s the one, or a stable crypto. That’s backed by U.S. dollars somehow. I’m not quite sure how that works. But I like that better than being backed by nothing, which Bitcoin is backed by nothing other than supply and demand. and rumble is rumbling again today it’s up 11 so i have to look into rumble i honestly i know some people that are strictly on rumble won’t go near youtube uh maybe i’ve got to do both but that’s one of my goals for uh before the year begins is to get my youtube channel back up and running and Maybe run it on Rumble, too. That’s right. They’re on my list of things to do before the end of the year. Wow. How would you like to get to the airport this morning and hear that all American Airlines flights have been grounded due to a technical issue? Oh, man, can you imagine? They weren’t able to scan as you get on the plane. The scanning system was down. Luckily, they got it fixed. But the carrier issued a statement on social media site X. We’re currently experiencing a technical issue with all American flights. The good news is they’ve got it fixed. We’ll be right back. And welcome back here to the second quarter of today’s Best Stocks Now show. Well, this ground stop this morning of American Airlines brought back some memories. 2022 when Southwest experienced a major technical outage that caused widespread disruption to holiday travel for more than a week. when their computer system went down. You know, the airlines have had an unusually good year, however. I’m not a fan of owning airline stocks, but American and Delta and Alaska and Allegiant all have very strong stock patterns. And they had a very profitable year. You know, fuel prices have remained relatively low. I think people are flying more than ever. And it’s pretty rare to not get on a full plane these days. But they’ve had a good year. It’s just not an area of the market that I like are the airline stocks. Okay, so we mentioned Rumble and Tether and that’s a good chart. Now the question is, you know, once somebody gets a foothold like YouTube and of course Google got a foothold in the search business. And NVIDIA’s got a foothold in the AI business. And Microsoft seems to have a foothold in the chat GPT AI for consumer, retail people business. Can Rumble carve out, you know, go up against YouTube? You know, it’s hard to follow all of these different social media sites. So I’d have a hard time myself investing in Rumble. I’d have to take a look. I don’t know what the stats are, how many people are on Rumble versus how many people are on YouTube. And how many people are on both. Yeah, I mean, that’s pretty much what determines how much the company’s worth because the advertisers are going to spend where the eyeballs are. And I’d have to look. Maybe you can just AI that thing, chat GPT, how many users. I would imagine that the users on YouTube are 10 to 1, maybe even more than that, versus the users on Rumble. But like I say, I have a hard time investing in Rumble.
SPEAKER 06 :
Especially after an 81% yesterday. Yeah. But maybe having that tether money behind them helps out anyways. Okay, now, here’s the coal in your stocking here today.
SPEAKER 07 :
There’s always some bad news coming from somewhere, but this is a little scary. Pakistan’s a little bit of an unstable nation. They’ve had some changes. They’ve had some revolutions. They’ve had some coups recently. And a nuclear nation too, right? Yeah, and they’re working on a long-range missile that could hit us. So let’s be nice to Pakistan, all right? The Biden administration said Pakistan is building a long-range ballistic missile that could provide the nuclear-armed country with the ability to strike the United States. So there’s one more thing to think about as you lay your head on your pillow at night. things to worry about uh… we’ve got uh… this not this this to me is that proof in the pudding that you’ve got to be a stock picker in today’s marketplace if you look at the s&p five hundred equal weight the equal weight s&p five hundred was up eleven is up eleven point seven percent year-to-date The S&P by weight is up 25.3%. So that’s a big difference. Now, I would just say the equal weight is like owning Procter & Gamble and Kimberly-Clark and IBM and AT&T and Verizon and all of those. What makes the difference in that the S&P cap weighted being up 25.3? Well, it’s having the big winners. It’s having Tesla. It’s having NVIDIA. It’s having Palantir. It’s having the big winners in the market. And I call them best stocks now. Without those best stocks now and those dominant performers, it makes a huge difference. We’ve had some portfolios transferred to us here recently. They’ve been pretty bad. I would call them stinkers probably. I mean below soggy, below soggy. It’s amazing to me that a lot of brokers are still using mutual funds. which it’s almost impossible for a mutual fund to beat even the indexes because they’re spread so thin, and they have to own so many stocks, and they don’t time the market at all, and they’re pretty much spread way out. Expenses are high. I don’t get it.
SPEAKER 06 :
It’s hard to, yeah, they can’t capitalize on their best ideas because it’s all watered down because, you know, a lot of these large funds, you know, if they owned what they wanted to own, they would own too much of it and it would be, you know, regulators wouldn’t allow them to hold, you know, 25% of Microsoft or what have you. So it’s just, you know, as they’ve attracted money over the years, they’ve, you know, basically watered down their strategies because they only have so many places to go. Yeah.
SPEAKER 07 :
Now, okay, and this really shows up when you take a look at the top five NASDAQ performers in 2024, and I’m proud to say that we currently own four out of five, and one we own for the better part of the year. The number one performer in the NASDAQ 100, believe it or not, is App Lovin’. Which we found using the app. And we’ve caught almost the entire run in app loving. It’s up 755% year to date. We cut it in half once because it became about 20% of our emerging growth portfolio. That portfolio is up about just over 50% this year, and a lot of that’s because we had a big winner like App Lovin’ in that portfolio. The number two performing stock in the NASDAQ this year is NVIDIA, which obviously we’ve owned all year long. It’s up 172% in 2024, and I don’t think it’s done yet. Number three is Broadcom, and most of that happened here in the last couple of weeks. Broadcom’s up 97.8% year to date. Number four is Constellation Energy, which is Three Mile Island. which is the one that made the deal with Microsoft to sell energy for the next 20 years to power their data centers. And number five, and of course, Constellation’s up 94.2. That’s really helped our dividend and growth portfolio. When most people own the traditional utilities, okay, Dominion, whatever, Edison, just your traditional utilities, no. We own Vistra and Constellation, which have a heavy link to this, all of a sudden, this rebound in nuclear energy. Constellation up 94.2%. That’s number four. And number five is Netflix up 86.7%. And by the way, tomorrow, Christmas Day, guess where the football games are going to be? They’re going to be streamed live on Netflix, which is a big gamble by Netflix. Their boxing match didn’t work out so good with Tyson because it kept buffering and all this kind of… I think Tyson was buffering, too. But tomorrow, your football games will be on Netflix. That’s how big Netflix has become. We’ll be right back. This is Bill Gunderson. Thank you for tuning in to today’s Best Stocks Now, Best Inverse Funds Now show. I put several hours of research in during the wee hours of the morning each day to bring you the very best cutting-edge stories that I can. To get two free weeks of my newsletter, go to GundersonCapital.com. To talk to us about our fee-based only money management services, call us at 855-611-BEST. Now, back to the second half of the show.
SPEAKER 02 :
And welcome back here to the second half of today’s Best Stocks Now show. The rally, let’s see, has the rally collapsed? No, okay, not yet. The NASDAQ is still up.
SPEAKER 07 :
It’s going to quiet down now as the day goes on. But it’s up 166. That’s pretty good. The Dow’s up 160. That’s pretty good. We’re having a really good day here today, up three-quarters of a percent so far. And I would like to mention that, you know, Barry, as we talk about individual companies that have phenomenal growth, which we like to invest in, Our business is up about 45. We probably have about 45% growth this year, year over year. Same crew, you know. That’s pretty good. And so, you know, I’ve got to mention the names here. Of course, Barry Kite, who talks to most of the folks, you know, when they ask for information about us and want to. talk about their portfolio or whatnot. Of course, he’s a chartered financial analyst and a certified financial planner. Jennifer Green, who is our chief operating officer, she works out of north of Atlanta, up near Tennessee. What’s the town? Chattanooga. And she’s a big Georgia Bulldog fan. I mean, go Bulldogs. And, of course, they’re alive. They’re very much alive. Are they one of the four?
SPEAKER 06 :
Oh, yeah. They’re one of the four. They’ll be in the game this weekend.
SPEAKER 07 :
She keeps the ship from rocking too much, right? Keeps the steady ship going. And, of course, out west in Scottsdale, we’ve got Edie, who’s been with us for quite some time. And a lot of times, she’ll be the first person you talk to. Your first person you talk to is good old Edie. about how did you like the newsletter, blah, blah, blah. Would you like to set up an appointment with Barry? This kind of thing. And then if you decide to open an account with us, we’ve got Sandy McManus out there in the Phoenix area who’s a big hockey fan. She’s from Michigan. When we visited Michigan, I sent them to the Detroit Red Wings game.
SPEAKER 02 :
I couldn’t go.
SPEAKER 07 :
It’s past my bedtime, 830. I got to get ready to get ready for the show the next day. But we went and saw the Red Wings. I don’t know if Sandy got kicked out of the game. Did she make it?
SPEAKER 06 :
Was she thrown out? Detroit basically put it on the Penguins the whole time. Okay, good. She was happy.
SPEAKER 07 :
Was she throwing rubber chickens on the ice again?
SPEAKER 06 :
There were some squid thrown on the ice from the Red Wings.
SPEAKER 07 :
And she hated to see the Phoenix Coyotes leave for Salt Lake City. But I sent her to the last game. in phoenix for her it was on her birthday or something like and then of course we have new addition jeff fairly new jeff webster who’s really getting his uh learning the business very quickly of course he’s got a whole career in the tech industry so he fits right in and in sales and everything uh and then ed dayer who is my brother-in-law out in san diego california vista california he takes care of anybody that’s having an issue with their subscription I can’t open my newsletter, blah, blah, blah, this and that. He keeps all the subscribers happy. Our subscription business, so look, I tried, number one, 80, 90% of our business is managing money for other people, fee-based only in the five or six, I can’t remember, is it five, six portfolios that I manage, okay? But we have a large, large worldwide audience of do-it-yourselfers that I feel like, you know what, I’m going to help them out too. Most of them don’t have $100,000, which is our minimum to open an account. And they manage their own money. And so I have this subscription thing, which is pretty intense. I mean, you compare it with what Kramer does. Go ahead. Take a free trial of Jim Cramer’s offering and compare it with what I’m doing on a daily basis. I know because I’ve tried out Cramer’s. For me, it was absolutely useless. But that’s just me, okay? I try to teach. I try to give examples. I try to make people money if I can, you know. I do everything I can. I lay it on the field every single day. So I have to give hats off to my crew. This time of year. And we’re geared up. We’re ready for 2025. So is, let’s see.
SPEAKER 06 :
And it’s been interesting, too, you know, since the, you know, and we certainly appreciate you, too, Bill. It’s been certainly a big part of that. But in terms of just since the election, right, I mean, talking to folks, it’s just, you know, there’s a bit of optimism. And, you know, you’re seeing it in certain parts of the market. And I’m certainly looking forward to 2025. And it’s been a great 2024.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, so one of my jobs is to worry, and I do worry about the valuation because a lot of growth that they’re expecting from Trump has been built into the market already. So we have to kind of tiptoe, and we have to be careful, and we always have to watch in the rearview mirror about these valuations. Now, Citigroup spotlights their optimism for the S&P. This is one of the lower values. uh… target prices however there at sixty five hundred uh… we’re almost there i mean we’re at six thousand now so what would that be uh… five hundred points on six hundred not very good uh… as far as upside potential uh… but most of the firms are around seven thousand And, of course, the earnings estimates for next year are somewhere in the $270 range. Compare that with 2009, which was $60. This year is about $240, somewhere in there. So the earnings beat, the earnings growth continues to, and that’s what drives valuations of companies higher more than anything. Now the multiple is the second part of that and we’re more worried about the multiple than we are the earnings. At some point it will come to an end and earnings will start to flatten out and the S&P and the whole thing will go into another bear market and we always have to be vigilant looking ahead. The market is looking ahead by one to two years. Okay, so Citi lays out their $6,500 target price number one. Their top picks for the year, Meta. I would agree with that. I think Meta is still a very good buy at its current level. You may not like Zuckerbucks, but do you like earnings? The earnings train continues. They’re expected to make $25 per share next year. They also like Amazon. Believe it or not, Amazon is still one of our biggest holdings. It still makes sense from a valuation point of view. Now they’ve got an AI chip, which makes it even that much more powerful. Amazon is getting ready to break out again to a new all-time high. at 2.4 trillion dollars and city groups third one they mentioned is one that i gave up on way too soon door dash door dash is a disruptor even though it’s a simple business someone pulling up in front of your house and leaving a sack on your front door it’s not exactly high tech but i do believe that with robo taxi out there and with what was that yesterday the google wing lowering your dinner? I want to see this. I want to see that happen. That’s going to happen in Dallas, Texas.
SPEAKER 06 :
Probably not a good time to test that out in New Jersey, so I’m sure Texas is probably a better test market at this point.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, and I don’t know. Yeah, I mean, well, we’ll see. But DoorDash is definitely, I agree with DoorDash. I would be looking to get back into it. Citigroup also likes Reddit. And Zillow, okay, I’m not a fan of Zillow because I think that the housing market is going to have another rough year. The housing stocks, that’s definitely come to an end, the high interest rates, etc., now uh what else do they mention well zillow and reddit you know my problem with reddit is there’s no profit there there i know it’s it’s got to be a uh a what do you call these meme stocks it’s got to be a meme stock for sure because that’s where meme came from and reddit is now valued at 31 billion dollars And what are their sales here at Reddit? I can’t fault, they got about a billion dollars, a little over a billion dollars.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, one new line for them, and this is what’s kind of driven that price, is that they’ve got a lot of information, right, in terms of things that have been typed into Reddit for a long time now. And they’re selling that to AI models, and AI models are picking it apart and using it to train their models, essentially. So that’s one of their new lines of revenue. Yeah. Yeah, I don’t think they haven’t had any actual earnings, have they?
SPEAKER 07 :
No, not yet. Now, they’re expected to make in 2025 76 cents per share. And with the stock trading at 176, I mean, that’s a very, very, very rich 200 times earnings, 250 times earnings, something like that. But it’s the ultimate meme stock, RDDT. We do not own it. We’ll be right back to talk about the biotech of the day that is exploding to the upside. We’ll be right back.
SPEAKER 1 :
Thank you.
SPEAKER 07 :
And welcome back here to the final segment of today’s Best Stocks Now show. Well, almost every day a stock pops up on the radar that has something new and it’s not in the database, and we add it to the database. I remember the day not too long ago, maybe a month ago, when we started first talking about the quantum stocks. Man, those things have really taken off since then. They’re still out there on the horizon, though. They are long-term in nature, which is going to make them very, very vulnerable. To invest in them at this point in time is a little on the iffy side. To invest in them short-term, maybe a month or two, or whatever the case may be, they are very volatile.
SPEAKER 06 :
And each of them have their own set of execution risks, right? Yeah. It’s not unlike, you know, it’s almost I think of it as the biotech of technology, right, in terms of AI with the, you know, we’ve been hearing the term quantum for decades. an extended period of time, but it’s one of those kind of elusive things in terms of when’s it going to be here, who’s going to be the leader in the space. So it’s certainly a high-risk, high-reward there.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, of all of them. I mean, there’s a few, QBTS, and I think Rigetti looks like the real deal. But we’ll see. Okay, today’s new entry into the database is Tras Pharmaceutical, T-R-A-W, which is working on bird flu. Okay, they’re an antiviral kind of a company. They’re very small, but yesterday it had a huge day. Tras was up, let’s see, I think 87%. Let me find that story. Yeah, there it is, 260% Monday morning. After the company announced progress in developing its influenza treatment, Tivo Zaxvir Marboxyl for the treatment of H5N1 bird flu. I don’t want to wake up with that. But anyways, the drug developer has seen some good progress in this, T-R-A-W. So it is now on my watch list. Okay, and now what I want to do is look underneath the surface of the market at what is really, because it’s a pretty good day, believe it or not. There’s no, everybody’s buying today. It doesn’t seem like there’s a lot of sellers out there. And we’re going to take a look real quickly here at where the leadership in the market is. We’ll look at the Dow first, which I expected a really, really quiet day in the market. You know, I would say there’s not any real big winners. Apple’s up in the Dow. Visa’s up. Amazon is the winner, up 1.6%. In the Dow, as it relates to the S&P 500, SMCI is up 8.8%. But Tesla, which we own, is up 4.7% today. Man, that’s another huge day for Tesla. Palantir, which is becoming a monster, is up 3.2% today. Broadcom is up 2.2% today. Those are your winners in the S&P 500. On the downside, who’s under pressure today? Anybody? Yeah, I’m sure there’s some. Okay, let’s see. I can’t seem to sort. There it is. Okay, yeah, no, nothing of note there, really. Okay, now we’re going to look at the… We’re going to look at the NASDAQ because the NASDAQ is really having a good day here today. And the winners in the NASDAQ, I’m sure, are, you know, I was going to say that the biggest loser in the NASDAQ this year, I forgot to mention that, was Intel. Intel was down 60%. No wonder the CEO, who obviously is a devout Christian, was asking for prayers and fasting. for the employees at Intel, which has fallen on some pretty hard times. Tesla’s the biggest winner in the NASDAQ today, up 4.6%. And that’s helping us drive the bus here. And let’s see, anything else? Let’s look at the Granite shares real fast. I was back there. You don’t want to be short Tesla 2X today, down 9.5%. That’s the wrong side of that trade. But two times long super microcomputer, now that takes some real, that’s a volatile deal. It’s up 17.4. Two times long Tesla is up 5.9. And two times long Palantir, which I did a quick trade on last week in the trading, the incubator trading portfolio. It’s up 5.9% or 5.2% today on those one-stock ETFs, which are juiced 2 to 1. And there are some that are inverse, okay? And then one other one here that I think there’s a couple of these nuclear stocks. I really like the chart on Nano Nuclear Energy, NNE. which we have a small position in in the incubator portfolio. That’s another one that’s way out there on the horizon. And that’s a very good chart right now. We own it in the incubator portfolio. And the other one I like still is Oklo, O-K-L-O, which seems to have some pretty good connections and some pretty big people sniffing around, making deals, letters of intent, etc., etc., So those are a couple out there on the horizon and, you know, good for a little bit of speculative trading activity. in these kinds of stocks. Well, okay, we’ll be open until 1 o’clock today. If you’d like to call us, make an appointment. We’ll be working on Thursday and on Friday and, you know, and then the following week to set up an appointment with us to talk to us, 855-611-BEST, 855-611-BEST. We must be doing something right to grow by, 45% over the last 12 months. But you have to determine that for yourself by having a conversation with us. And, you know, if you’re a do-it-yourselfer and are looking for some help and guidance, I’m in the market every day broadcasting from my boat. Not my boat, but my desk. I’m like a fishing guide, and I’m telling you where the fish are biting, what color is the best. And when the tide changes, I also let you know that also. And I try to teach. I teach. I’m a player coach, I guess. You can sign up for four free weeks. Four weeks. by going to GundersonCapital.com. GundersonCapital.com. Have a great day, everybody. Merry Christmas.
SPEAKER 04 :
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