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We’re an independent voice, and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something’s a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. It’s not compassionate to take other people’s stuff. That’s their rights, their property, their freedom, livelihood, opportunities, or lives. Force obviously can be a weapon, but policy, unpredictable and excessive taxation, fear, coercion, government-induced inflation. The World Economic Forum agenda, the globalist elites agenda, United Nations, the Colorado State Legislature, the Colorado governor, the World Health Organization, land use code, zoning regulations, force fees, conservation easements, national monument designations, and the list goes on and on and on. And Yeah, we’re seeing where government is being used to prevent people from being able to use their property to to create their own wealth. And so anyway, we’ve got to continue to to focus on property rights, which we do, which America was property rights was foundational in the whole American idea. Remember, if something is a good idea, you don’t have to use force to implement it. On the show, we focus on the issues, not the personalities. We’ll talk about the people that are pushing these issues but want to stay out of the eighth-grade girl fighting kind of things. We want to stay focused and disciplined on those issues because that’s what it’s all really about. The show comes to you 6 to 8 a.m. Monday through Friday, and the first hour is rebroadcast 1 to 2 in the afternoon. Second hour, 10 to 11 at night. And you can hear this on all of the KLZ platforms, which is KLZ 560 AM, KLZ 100.7 FM, the KLZ website, and the KLZ app. And so let’s get into our word of the day. The word of the day is dynamism. And it’s spelled D-Y-N-A-M-I-S-M. And it’s, number one, a philosophy or theory that all phenomena can be explained as a manifestation of force. Also could be basically something that’s dynamic. So a dynamic personality or it says a dynamic or expansionist quality, the dynamism of a natural leader. And so your challenge is to use the word dynamism in a sentence today. And I would say that Trump really is exhibiting dynamism as he is preparing for his next term. And that inauguration is one week away. We are in, I think, a very dangerous time in our country. In fact, I’ve talked with a number of people this weekend. I think we’re in our 1775 moment. We are in the third founding of our country. And it is a significant battle of ideas that we’re involved in right now. And there are those that have been working to divide us for quite some time. And it’s really the Marxist model to divide us. And I was traveling this weekend. And first of all, again, I always am refusing to have my photo taken as I’m going through security at the airport. and it’s just really simple to say i’d prefer not to have my photo taken and so far each of the attendants has been very accommodating but it is amazing air travel is a pretty amazing thing just think about when the west was being settled it took months to get from where i where I flew out of to where I flew to. And I could do that all in a weekend, which is pretty amazing. And it’s amazing to see the masses as we are traveling and living our lives. And I was reflecting that if… everybody has their handheld device in their hand and they’re looking at something. And we’ve got to, we’ve got to, we need to reclaim this curiosity and search for truth. There’s so many things that are being thrown at people. And so we do that remnant at a time. I’ll put it that way. I quote for the day is from Maggie Thatcher. She was born in 1925. She died in 2013. She was a British stateswoman, conservative politician. She was the prime minister of the United Kingdom from 1979 to 1990 and a leader in the conservative party from 75 to 1990. And she was the longest serving British prime minister of the 20th century and the first woman to hold a position. And she implemented economic policies known as Thatcherism. A Soviet journalist dubbed her the Iron Lady, a nickname that became associated with her uncompromising politics and leadership style. And she said this. She said, you don’t win by just being against things. You only win by being for things and making your message perfectly clear. And as we are engaged in this battle of ideas, I think that’s very important to recall. This day in history, 1912, naked at 40 degrees Fahrenheit in Oakland, Maryland, which was a state record. And back in the 70s and 80s when Jimmy Carter was, well, I remember when Jimmy Carter was president back in the 70s, the headlines were that the world was going to freeze, that it was going to get too cold. And then, of course, the climate changes. And when it’s negative 40 degrees Fahrenheit, you want it to get a little bit warmer. And so global warming is not a bad thing. But we were talking about global warming then that the earth was going to burn up. And then we had cold temperatures, warm temperatures. So they had to change the narrative to climate change. and the Green New Deal. The Green New Deal, under the guise of climate change, the goal is to bankrupt America and to bankrupt the West. And they’re headed down that road for sure. That’s why it’s important that we have some real curiosity about these narratives that are being just really shoved down our throats. And that’s why the documentary, A Climate Change, which Walt Johnson, his project is so important. And you can watch that for free. It’s a documentary at climateconversation.com. And then also we have done a great podcast series with a number of scientists and experts, which really break down the whole narrative on that. And ultimately, the goal is to bankrupt the West. And one of the things is, is to change to prevent you from being able to change your own personal climate. And that is, is to be warm in the winter and cool in the summer. And how are they doing that? They are shutting down coal-fired power plants. They are, they, here, I will say that right here in Colorado, it is this governor and this legislature and these bureaucrats, these PBIs, politicians, bureaucrats, and interested parties shutting down Very well-run coal-fired power plants, making it very expensive for our natural gas producers to explore and develop natural gas, natural gas which is also instrumental in heating our homes and cooling our homes in the summer. And making it more and more expensive, which is really making it difficult for every it’s making more expensive for everyday people to thrive and flourish. And I saw a bumper sticker, which I was out in California this weekend. And there was a lot of very conservative messages in the area that I was in. But taxation is theft. I think we all agree that there is an amount of taxation. And, of course, in the Constitution it says that there are specific things the federal government is supposed to do. And if those specific things are – if it’s not that specific thing, then the federal government is not supposed to be doing that. And when you think about how much money is being taken out of your paychecks for Social Security, Medicare, taxes, fees – just think if you had more of that money in your pocket, your life would be more affordable. So when PBIs talk about affordability, one of the first things that needs to be done is that taxes need to be lowered. So that goes back to be sure and check out a climate conversation because what they’re doing is they’re using the climate change as a tool to really take more and more money out of your pocket and trying to bankrupt America. So let’s go to some of the other headlines. 1920, the New York Times editorial falsely reports that rockets can never fly. So even back then, the New York Times was becoming somewhat questionable as the place to go for all your news. Certainly you may have that in your repertoire, but make sure that you are looking at a number of different news sources. In 1943, during World War II, British Prime Minister Winston Churchill arrives in Casablanca, French Morocco, for a conference of Allied forces in World War II. Went right into the war to do that. In 1943, the U.S. infantry captures Galloping Horse Ridge in Guadalcanal. That was a significant battle in 1943. 1962, Chubby Checker’s song The Twist was credited with starting the twist dance craze, goes to number one in the charts two years after reaching the number one spot. And in 2024, an arctic blast affects large parts of the U.S. with 44 million people under winter weather advisory with Montana registering 60 degrees below zero. So, again, that’s why the narrative changed from global warming to climate change. And the climate has always been changing. Again, last week when we had Colonel Bill Rutledge on, 96 years young, he was stationed in Greenland in 1956 for about a year. And there was, I think, a I think it was a geologist, that they were doing work and they would talk at the end of the day. And the other guy came in and said, gosh, I had a really interesting day. And Colonel Rutledge said, well, what happened? He said, well, we drilled down through the ice and we found shards of palm trees. And so the climate has always been changing, my friends. But to use that narrative to bankrupt the West and to move us into Marxism really is where they went ahead. That’s why we need to shed light on this. I thank the Harris family for their gold sponsorship of the show. We are an independent voice. What that means is I purchased my airtime, which truly an entrepreneur to do that. And it gives us significant freedom to guest selection, subject selection. And I do appreciate each and every one of you for your suggestions, your word of the days. Thank you, Richard, the limo guy. Many times we’ll send new words of the day. Text me at 720-605-0647. That’s 720-605-0647. And the Roger Megan State Farm Insurance team has been in business for 48 years. He’s seen a lot in this 48 years. And we typically prerecord his interviews. 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And welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter and you can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We’re an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something’s a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And I was in Southern California this weekend, was south of the fires, and did not have any smoke in the area that I was in because I think the winds were carrying the smoke certainly in a different direction. But this is really unbelievable what has occurred regarding these fires. And with people, the – my – Uber driver had great guy seemed like a really nice guy said that these fires just happen that he didn’t think that it’s and I’m paraphrasing should be politicized because the Santa Ana winds are significant and And I just listened. But we can prepare. And the idea that we know that there’s the Santa Ana winds, we know that there can be dry conditions. But if we look at the policies over the past few years – And really, many of these 30 by 30 policies coming out of the World Economic Forum and the globalist elites that they’re trying to push individuals into urban areas and have us live in apartment buildings, small apartments, and ride around on trains and buses, these smart cities. This is a real problem. And so also the fact that they have not been preparing for these kinds of wildfires. In fact, I was talking with someone this week and they said that, and we’ve talked with Trent Luce about this, that goats… and cows and sheep will eat and help manage the underbrush. And the fact that we don’t have grazing of goats and sheep, and they’re trying to prevent cattle grazing on a lot of the land in the West, And they actually, as they are grazing, they are helping to mitigate grass fires. And apparently in California, where they used to have goat grazing, they don’t. So here we have these fires that are significantly more deadly. But this is from the Western Journal. And then you go ahead and do these kinds of things. In California, Governor Gavin Newsom cut spending on wildfire and forest resilience by $101 million seven months before fires began to rage around Los Angeles, according to a new report. His director of communications wasn’t happy to see the information published. Newsom’s come under fire, no pun intended, from President-elect Donald Trump for his handling of the disaster. And this one of the best, most beautiful parts of the United States of America is burning down to the ground. It’s ashes and Gavin Newsom Newsom should resign. This is all his fault. Trump posted on Truth Social. It says in another Truth Social post, Trump slammed Newsom and Los Angeles Mayor Karen Bass, as well as President Joe Biden’s federal emergency management plan. Gross incompetence by Gavin Newsom and Karen Bass and Biden’s FEMA has no money all wasted on the green new scam. L.A. is a total wipeout. Well, in that particular area, it is. And it goes on to say a new report from Newsweek citing information from the state’s legislative analyst’s office has revealed that Newsom cut various wildfire programs in the current California budget. for the California Department of Forestry and Fire Protection, known as CAL FIRE. Among the cuts Newsweek reported in the budget, Newsom signed that in June. He took $5 million away from the department’s vegetation control performed by the California National Guard. Agencies that promote wildfire resilience lost $28 million in the budget line, and a program to encourage good forest management practices was cut by $4 million. I also saw a headline that Newsom and company and the California state legislature leaders are going to spend $50 billion to try to throw marbles in front of Trump’s agenda. And so California is, I think people, many people are waking up to this and then the Very troubling. It looks like that these fires began with potentially arson. And so I hope that we get to the bottom of all of this. This came in on the text line 720-605-0647. And this was from Eric. He said the Democrats changed the narrative to climate change to a lie. And it certainly, certainly is. We’ve got to take responsibility. We know the climate always changes. And so we’ve got to be sure. continue to shed light on this the next headline is California is caught off guard by massive fires after the LA Fire Department spent years pushing racial equity and again this racial equity defining people by the color of their skin instead of the content of their character is again Marxist and apparently There are reports that Karen Bass, the mayor of Los Angeles, is, we’ll put it this way, has communist ties to Cuba. And she was in Ghana while L.A. was burning. But we’ll go on here to this article. And this is from, let’s see here. It is… hold on the tampa free press says the los angeles fire department committed significant resources to diversity equity and inclusion initiatives before the outbreak of massive fires that devastated the los angeles area overnight i guess the the interesting thing about it is is these fires certainly they burned everything that anybody in its path and it didn’t notice whether or not they were diverse or equal. It certainly devastated everybody in its line of fire. It went on to say the Los Angeles Fire Department has implemented an internal racial equity plan subjected employees to diversity training and is currently led by Chief Kristen Crowley, the first female and LGBTQ fire chief in the L.A., Los Angeles Fire Department. She’s a staunch supporter of those initiatives. And as strong winds fed the wildfires on Tuesday evening, former Republican Los Angeles mayoral candidate Rick Caruso reported that some fire hydrants were running low on water as the department scrambled to mobilize fires. And then one of our listeners, Mary, actually sent me a video of firefighters filling women’s purses with water and trying to put out a small flame. It goes on to say, it says the department’s racial equity plan adopted in 2021 asserts that the Los Angeles Fire Department is a better firefighting organization for focusing on the demographic characteristics of its personnel. The strength of any organization rests in its greatest resource, its people. And the Los Angeles Fire Department leadership cannot accomplish any of the racial equity and inclusion goals without the employees to accomplish the work and embrace the vision. while being guided by competent leadership. Well, we’re seeing that all of this is very incompetent and people are losing their homes. I saw the other night on one of the news sources, it was a video of Adam Carolla, the comedian who said that There really is going to probably be a shift by a number of those very Democrat-supporting people in Colorado, the elites, when they go back to try to rebuild their homes, when they see all the rules and regulations and fees that would go into trying to rebuild their homes. And I did see a headline that said that some of the rules might be relaxed for building homes. What that means is, is we should not have them in the first place. And so stay tuned on all of this. Next thing, this is again from the Tampa Free Press. Woke cartel of financial giants are dealt a death blow 11 days before Trump takes office. I actually don’t think that that’s the case. I think that probably the initiative was dealt, that particular initiative was dealt a death blow. But what’s going to happen is they’re going to just redirect. But this is the headline. It says, The firm, which manages over $10 trillion and has been a leader in ESG, environmental, social, and governance investing, has left the Net Zero Asset Managers Coalition, a United Nations-sponsored collection of financial services companies that have pledged to achieve net zero portfolios by 2050 or sooner. says the move comes less than two weeks before President-elect Donald Trump, who plans to embrace fossil fuels in a second term, takes office and follows the exits of a slew of other corporations, including Goldman Sachs, Wells Fargo, Citicorp, Bank of America, Morgan Stanley and JPMorgan Chase. says in a letter to investors vice chair philip hildebrand wrote that the asset managers membership in the net zero asset management has caused confusion regarding blackrock’s practices and subjected us to legal inquiries from there you have it right there legal inquiries from various public officials Okay. And it began this ESG initiative in 2020 with CEO Larry Fink stating that climate risk is an investment risk and that climate change would spark a fundamental reallocation of capital. However, the world’s largest asset manager, Exit, has been backpedaling on its ESG efforts as of late, only supporting about 4% of the $450 493 environmental and social investment proposals shareholders put forth before the end of June 2023 and the end of 2024. So that’s a really big deal as well. And then lastly, here locally, this is from the Denver Post, and this was published just recently. It says the number of Denver restaurants has shrunk 22% since 2021. And that is a stark figure that is indicative of the challenges eateries continue to face beyond the coronavirus pandemic. There were 2,166 restaurants in the city at the end of 2021 and 2,118 at the end of 2022, according to Denver’s Department of Exercise and Licenses, which requires owners to keep active retail licenses. It says the city couldn’t provide numbers for 2023. They were unreliable because the department transferred the entire application process online that year. But by the end of 2024, there were only 1,693 active restaurant licenses. And again, I was talking with someone this weekend, and it seems that, and it is true, under Marxism, you cannot have entrepreneurs. And of course, restaurant owners are some of the really at the forefront of being an entrepreneur. And so that is certainly under attack. We see entrepreneurship all totally under attack. And that’s why we have to reclaim entrepreneurship. our American idea, and that’s why we do the show. And another set of entrepreneurs is realtors, and they certainly have been under attack as well. But to work with a realtor that has a lot of experience, has your best interest in mind, that realtor is Karen Levine. And for anything residential real estate in the metro market, give her a call.

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okay welcome back to the kim munson show be sure and check out our website that is kim munson m-o-n-s-o-n.com sign up for our weekly email newsletter and you can email me at kim kimmunson.com as well thank you to all of you who support us we’re an independent voice we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force force versus freedom if something’s a good idea you should not have to force people to do it and do have on your list this year to make sure that you support the USMC Memorial Foundation. It is so important that we remember and honor those that have given their lives or been willing to give their lives for our freedom. The official Marine Memorial is right here in Colorado. It was dedicated in 1977. Paula Sarles, the president of the USMC Memorial Foundation, is a Gold Star wife and also a Marine veteran. And she and her team are focused on making this a reality. So check out all that they’re doing at usmcmemorialfoundation.org. Really pleased to have on the line with me Joshua Scharf. And he is the Senior Fellow in Fiscal Policy with the Independence Institute. And he’s written an important piece. It says Colorado’s legislature is more gerrymandered than ever. You can find that at Complete Colorado. Joshua, welcome to the show.

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Good morning, Kim.

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It is great to have you. And interesting, the 8th Congressional District was very, very close in this last election, and it ended up going to Gabe Evans. And so we have a U.S. House delegation. We have four Democrats and four Republicans going to Congress. But you said that the re-importment, and many Democrats have been whining about that, I guess. So let’s start there, Joshua.

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Yeah, so the overall congressional vote in the state was, I want to say something, I don’t have the exact numbers, but I want to say something like 60-40, maybe a little less than that. This is the congressional vote, aggregate vote, for the Democrats, and yet the congressional seats are split for four. That is, the Republicans managed to win eight, and then also three, four, and five, which is so… Eight was extremely close. It was one of the closest races in the country. It wasn’t as close as Lauren Boebert’s race was in 2022, which was the closest in the country. But it was very, very close, and it wasn’t called until a number of days after the election. Well, the Democrats are very upset about that. They believe that to some degree they were, if redistricting had been done the way they would have liked it, they would have picked up one, possibly two seats. The third is closer than people often think it is. Well, that’s fine. But at the reapportionment level, which is for the state legislature, it’s a completely different story. And these both use independent commissions. And they are intended, at least they were sold, as being less partisan, more independent, more objective than the prior method of doing reapportionment and redistricting. But they’re two different commissions. They’re appointed differently. And the reapportionment commission, which is responsible for state legislative districts, has produced a legislature which is even more gerrymandered than it has historically been, at least for the last couple of cycles when it’s been in effect.

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Wow. Well, and set this up because I’m going down memory lane on this was this was these commissions were voted on by the by the people of Colorado, right?

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Yes, it was a constitutional amendment that was passed in, I want to say, 2018.

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Okay. And I recall that I was concerned about – it was sold to us that it would make it more fair, I think. And, in fact, there were Republicans that said that this would at least give us a chance in some of these elections. But it’s really played out differently, yes? Yes.

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Yeah, it’s played out very, very differently. So the history of how to go into a little bit of the history here of how districts have been drawn in Colorado up until 1962, districts were county based and everything. So I’m talking about the state house. Everything was at large. So what you saw was and the reason that I use the house name. for this is that all the seats are up every two years. It’s easier to get aggregate numbers. You don’t have the differences in districts where the Senate was half of the Senate is up every other election cycle. And so there are differences in those Senate seats in the Senate districts that wouldn’t necessarily show up, and you might have a year where there were a lot of heavily Democratic districts up, let’s say, and so the vote might tend to be skewed. So if the whole state is up, this gives you a more rounded picture of the entire state if you’re looking at the state House seats where everything is up every two years. So if you go back up until 1962, districts were county-based, so you didn’t have split counties, and everything was at large. What that means is that Denver, for example, as time went on, more and more of the population, let’s say, was concentrated in Denver for a very long time. And so maybe there were 15 at-large seats in Denver. And people might do a little bit of ticket splitting. Maybe there was one particular candidate from the other party that they really liked who had been in for a while or who ran a really solid campaign. But for the most part, people didn’t split tickets all that much. And so you would end up with all 15 seats or 14 out of the 15 seats going to one party when the vote was clearly maybe 60-40, maybe 55-45. in favor of that party, but because people didn’t split seats, didn’t split their ticket, you end up with the least popular, say, Republican still pulling more votes than the most popular Democrat or the other way around. And so you had these huge swings of overperformance where a party would get many, many more seats than it should have gotten based on the aggregate vote. Obviously, we have a district system, not a proportional representation system, but you still hope that they kind of track each other a little bit. After 1964… And Colorado did this before the Supreme Court ruling, but there was a Supreme Court ruling that said you couldn’t have districts that way, that state legislative districts had to be drawn essentially the same way as congressional districts. They had to be of roughly the same population, and they set some parameters about what that meant. So Colorado went from this at-large system where everything was at-large within the county to a districted system. And what that meant was that these swings of overperformance camped down. They weren’t nearly as wild as they were when you had everything at large. You didn’t get parties, for the most part, getting 10 more seats or 15 more seats than the vote would have justified. But you ended up with much more consistency because now it was a partisan process. This is a process that most of us remember for about – that went on for about 50 years. This is a process that most of us are familiar with. The Republicans controlled the legislature. They drew the lines in a bill passed by the General Assembly, and it tended to favor Republicans, and they would get two, three, four seats more votes. than the aggregate vote would suggest that they should get, for the most part. I mean, you had some years like the Watergate year where the Democrats did really well. But for the most part, the Republicans outperformed because they were the ones drawing the line. It was a partisan process. And you would expect that. And then beginning in 2000, when the Democrats became more competitive and took the state Senate. So if you remember in – when it was the state Senate, it took the – yes, the state Senate in 2000. So now you have the way that it was structured. That gave them the ability to sort of stall the bill until they got something that they liked. And with the courts, it was a seriously contested process that year. And so the courts ended up threatening that they were going to impose a map. Eventually, the legislature passed a map that everyone could kind of live with. But it ended up favoring the Democrats. And since 2000, for the last two cycles, we’ve had, in essence, Democrat control of the redistricting process. I’m sorry, reapportionment process. And it has tended to favor them. by on average, maybe a seat or so more than the Republicans, it favored them. And so there was this sense that then, of course, in 2010, the Republicans now, you know, usually being in the minority, picked up one of the chambers of the, I think it was the state Senate in the state legislature. And again, you had this very contested process. And so what happened was he said, well, listen, we can’t do this every 10 years. We can’t have this partisan fight every 10 years. I don’t know why not, but people got – they used this as an opportunity to push through this allegedly nonpartisan process. Republicans were willing to sign on to it because they felt that, as you said, maybe it will give us a chance. Maybe if we put all these protections in. where we don’t have unaffiliated voters who are actually one party or the other, but are actually unaffiliated. And they hold the balance. And it has to win X number of unaffiliated representatives on this commission. So it’s not clearly a partisan map. Maybe it’ll give us a chance to not be so outnumbered. We have to remember that for three elections in a row, For three elections in a row at one point, the Democrats got a minority of the aggregate two-party vote. The Republicans statewide got more votes for statehouse than Democrats did, but the Democrats controlled the legislature. So the Republicans sort of felt, well, maybe this is a way that we can at least get seats that are in line with the number of votes we’re getting.

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So let’s go to break and keep that.

SPEAKER 05 : 42:25

I’m sorry. Sorry about the long lecture there. No, no, no. That’s good.

SPEAKER 09 : 42:29

But I want to talk about then what is you know, what is really happening. And I’m talking with Joshua Scharf. And this is a piece that he has written that is in Complete Colorado regarding, and let me get the exact title here, and that is, there we go, Colorado’s legislature is more gerrymandered than ever. And this is really important from a strategic standpoint. And Joshua seems to have the ability to really be able to look at these things that many of us would just gloss over and understand the importance of this from a strategic standpoint. Because I really do think that Colorado is a spot where the radical activists try to to run things here and see how it works here and then try to export that to other places. And that’s why we need to shed light on this. And we do this because of our sponsors. For everything mortgages, reach out to Lauren Levy.

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Welcome back to the Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter and you can email me at Kim at Kim Munson dot com as well. And be sure and check out the website for the Center for American Values. They’re going to have a great event on Thursday, the 23rd. Unfortunately, I cannot make it because I will be at the Colorado Union of Taxpayers legislative event on the same evening tomorrow. But this is going to be regarding the USS Pueblo, which was captured by the North Koreans in the Vietnam War and was held captive for about a year. And Bob Chica, who was one of those POWs, is going to be speaking. down at the Center for American Values. So be sure and check that out. It’s a unique experience. So be at one of the two places, either the Center for American Values or the Colorado Union of Taxpayers legislative kickoff. And you can get more information about that by going to the coloradotaxpayer.org, which is our CUT website. And the website for the Center for American Values is americanvaluecenter.org. Joshua Scharf, as you’re reflecting on this regarding you’re talking about 2000, which there’s the it’s done every 10 years, correct?

SPEAKER 05 : 46:55

Yes, it’s done after the census.

SPEAKER 09 : 46:58

Okay, after the census. And I really do think that the radical activists that have taken over the Democrat Party have been playing long ball. So back in 2000, was that right around the time where the blueprint, the book The Blueprint, where there was four very wealthy Democrats had come up with a strategy to try to take over Colorado? Was that around that time frame?

SPEAKER 05 : 47:23

Yeah, it was. And that was sort of the first burbings when they managed to take back one of the houses of the state legislature. And so there’s no question that holding on to the state legislature or getting control of the state legislature was one of the key elements. I think that And if you look at this, let’s finish out what’s happened since the independent commission has been in play. So this is for the last two cycles. We have the 2020 census, and we have the reapportionment commission, and then we have elections in 2022 and 2024, this past year. In each case, the aggregate vote would have entitled the Democrats to 35 of the House seats as opposed to 30 for the Republicans. But if you remember in 2022, it was 46 to 19. That is, the Democrats overperformed by 11 seats. And this past year, it wasn’t quite so lopsided. They overperformed by eight seats. So it’s 43 to 22. And so it’s not quite a supermajority, but the difference is staggering. I mean, if you’re on a committee and… let’s say the committee has nine members. It’s the difference between being outvoted, say, seven to two or six to three and being outvoted five to four. Maybe there’s a chance of negotiating with the squishiest member of the majority or the member who’s got the most marginal seat that you can get more favorable legislation out of the committee, get some amendments out of that. But If you’re down 46 to 19 or 43 to 22, it’s almost impossible. I mean you’re in a situation where you’re just outgunned in every direction. And so this stuff matters in terms of what kind of legislation comes out of it, what kind of bills get passed, what kind of bills get considered. It absolutely matters. And so – I think what’s happened here is because people tend to look at the congressional races more than the state legislative races. I think what’s happened is that the reapportionment has been much more aggressive in order to sort of give cover to the whole process. And then eventually once – they’ll get around to – maybe the next election they’ll get around to, quote-unquote, fixing the problem with the redistricting at the congressional level. And then we’ll be at 6-2 or 5-3, pretty much locked in in congressional seats. But I think the idea was that they really want to be aggressive in holding on to the state legislature… and make it very, very difficult, for instance, to undo this process, which they’ve been successfully able to game at the state legislative level.

SPEAKER 09 : 50:28

So first question, and I remember now Republicans that were out there touting this particular ballot question. Are we holding any of them accountable on this?

SPEAKER 05 : 50:43

Well, one of them unfortunately passed away. This is the former House leader. Oh, goodness. That’s embarrassing. Was it Huma Kean? Yeah, thank you. Yeah, yeah. He really felt that this was a process that would benefit. Listen, I mean, a lot of them got held accountable by the voters and didn’t get reelected. I mean it was – so I don’t know – or moved on to other – moved on from the legislature. So I don’t know that there’s – at this point, there are too many people around to aim fire at. I think it’s more just of an object lesson that you need to be careful what it is that you wish for, that when it was a partisan process – It was in the open. It was much more in the open. The maps got debated more openly. There was an opportunity for – even though the committee still met, appointed as it was. The committee obviously didn’t have a lot of open meetings. I mean, it was still a relatively closed process in producing the original maps. There was an understanding that it was a partisan process. Here, if you sort of pretend that it’s not a partisan process, that everybody’s sort of walking in, you know, stroking their chins, well, how can we be most fair? Then, you know, it provides cover for a lot more mischief. And I think it gives it a patina of credibility that it doesn’t necessarily deserve. These are enormous over-performances. These are over-performances that we haven’t seen since 1974 in the Watergate election. It happened two elections in a row.

SPEAKER 09 : 52:27

and the over-performances for the Democrats. And of course, these decisions that are being made down at the State House, so many of them, the things that are proposed are so radical, whether or not it’s our Second Amendment rights, or the transgender activism, or the climate agenda, trying to shut down our energy sector, all of those things are what’s occurring because of that. What can we do about this, Joshua Scharf?

SPEAKER 05 : 52:57

You can’t do a ton about it until the next census, but what the party leadership needs to do and what the individual party members can do as well is to see which districts are most marginal and focus your efforts there. I mean if you’ve got – one of the things about reapportionment, one of the things about gerrymandering is that you have to make choices. You can either lock in a solid – but relatively small or smaller majority. Or you can try to get a whole lot of seats, but a lot of those seats are going to be more marginal. So because of the over-performances, a lot of those seats are more marginal. And we saw a little bit of that in 2022, a little bit of, I’m sorry, 2024, sort of reversion to the mean, back to what was in a red wave year where we didn’t really see too much of that in Colorado. We did pick up a few House seats. You can focus on the marginal seats and really try and do something about that. But for electoral strategy, that’s really what you’re left with until the 2030 census when we go through all this again.

SPEAKER 09 : 54:13

Goodness. So our quotes that I did today was from Maggie Thatcher. And, you know, one of the things that she said was regarding messaging. We have to have this is she said, you can’t just stand against things. Let me get over here to it. But that you have to. Let’s see here. She said, you don’t win by just being against things. You only win by being for things and making your message perfectly clear. And I think that many times, particularly here in Colorado, Republicans have a difficult time trying to figure out what we really stand for because there’s – the Republican Party here in Colorado is so divided right now. I know to throw that out there and only have a minute left is – It is a big thing. But what’s your final thought you want to leave with our listeners, Joshua Sharf? And thank you.

SPEAKER 05 : 55:08

Oh, well, first of all, thank you for having me on. Secondly, I would say, listen, both parties are mixes of coalitions. Both parties are coalitions. And they have things that often sections of that coalition are loggerheads with each other. Right now, it’s more apparent. But if you’re the Democrats, a little easier, because your answer is always more government. For Republicans, your answer has to be to trust the people to run their own lives and to make their own decisions. It has to be to free people from being told what to do and having to live by sets of rules that they have essentially no hand in writing.

SPEAKER 09 : 55:46

Well said, Joshua Scharf. And again, be sure and check his piece out at Complete Colorado, because from a strategic standpoint, it’s important to understand this. When we say, how did we get here? It’s been all these different little strategies that’s made this happen. Joshua, keep up the great work. We’ll talk again soon.

SPEAKER 05 : 56:04

Thank you very much, Kim.

SPEAKER 09 : 56:07

And again, that’s Joshua Scharf, and you can find his piece at Complete Colorado. It’s spelled S-H-A-R-F is how you spell his last name when you’re searching for that. Our quote for the end of the show is from Maggie Thatcher. She said, when I’m out of politics, I’m going to run a business. It’ll be called Rent-A-Spine. So today, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals, and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you. God bless America, and stay tuned for hour number two.

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Is it freedom or is it force? Let’s have a conversation.

SPEAKER 09 : 58:07

Indeed, let’s have a conversation and welcome to our number two of the Kim Munson show. Thank you so much for joining us. You each are treasured, you’re valued, you have purpose. Today’s drive for excellence, take care of your heart, your soul, your mind and your body. My friends, we were made for this moment. And thank you to the team that I get to work with as producer Joe, Luke, Rachel, Zach, Echo, Charlie, Mike, Teresa, and all the people here at Crawford Broadcasting. Happy Monday, producer Joe. Happy Monday, Kim. Super interesting. These discussions, Joe, are so important. As a 26-year-old, had you really thought about the importance of this strategy that is occurring? Because it plays out in our lives. And I think sometimes we don’t look under the hood on this. That’s why I love what Joshua Scharf is doing, Joe.

SPEAKER 13 : 58:58

I like it too. And honestly, I often try and think about all the angles that are possibly coming. So it was really interesting how he laid out a new perspective that I didn’t think about.

SPEAKER 09 : 59:11

Yeah, and that is one of the reasons why Colorado is in the situation that we’re in. The legislature is very, very blue, a radical activist blue. And I think when we talk with our friends that are Democrats, we need to connect the dots that this Democrat Party is not the Democrat Party of JFK or your grandpa or your grandma. This Democrat Party is… focused on marxism particularly here in colorado and so again what joshua said at the very end regarding the the difference is is is do you and jay davidson actually just wrote a piece that uh was in i think an american thinker and we’ll talk with him about that later this week uh more and total control government control over your life Or you controlling your life in liberty, which is the responsible exercise of freedom. Those are really the questions that are out there. And we have these discussions because of our sponsors. Hooters Restaurants has been a great sponsor for many, many years. And it’s an important story how I got to know them. It’s a story about freedom and free markets and capitalism. and those pesky PBIs that want to control everything. You can find that story at my website. But Hooters Restaurants has five locations, Loveland, Aurora, Lone Tree, Westminster, and Colorado Springs. And their fish and chips are really great. They have wonderful lunch specials Monday through Friday and, of course, happy hour specials as well. Great place to get together to watch all of the games and get with friends. And so be sure and check all that out. Our word of the day is… And it is spelled D-Y-N-A-M-I-S-M. It’s a noun. And it could be a philosophy or theory that all phenomena can be explained as manifestations of force. It could be obviously being dynamic. And I think that the dynamism of Donald Trump is, I think, really what we need right now. He’s not our savior. And, of course, some people are put off by his personality. I find it very entertaining myself. But I so appreciate what he is doing. And to that point, I had a… colleague that reached out and asked me about, let me see if I can get this here. It asked me, what do we say when people say to us, oh, Donald Trump is a convicted felon? And that was really the goal of trying to get this conviction and this sentence done before he took office. and um let’s see here let’s let’s put it this way and so she said what do we say to that i said this is a great question and i’d like to hear what you all have to say about this when we’re talking with people because that narrative is out there people that are not paying attention totally to politics just looking at headlines maybe getting most of their news from mainstream media sources They say, oh, Donald Trump is a convicted felon and try to make his presidency illegitimate. I think that’s ultimately what they’re trying to do and divide us. And so this is my response. And let me know what you think about this. It says, these are my initial thoughts. Convicted on 34 counts sounds like a lot. However, when digging deeper, the 34 counts were accounting entries. Number one, 11 invoices for legal services. Number two, 11 checks paid for legal services. Number three, 12 ledger entries for legal services. The total amount was $130,000. And the crime he is convicted of is trying to influence an election. It’s very concerning that Americans can be convicted of felonies for accounting entries. I’m going to continue to watch this issue and those that prosecuted him. And then I did include the NPR article that showed these 34 counts. And then I think that I would redirect my conversation to this. I’m hopeful that Trump will reclaim many of the good things of his first presidency. Number one is secure border that we know who is coming into America. They’re coming here for free stuff or they want to hurt us. They should not be admitted. They’re coming to pursue the American dream. Then they must get in line and apply legally like everyone else. Number two, energy affordability, energy abundance and energy freedom. And number three, a more peaceful world. When Donald Trump was president, the first time the bad guys were not rattling their sabers and making war. I want a better world for my children and grandchildren. I think that Trump wants the same. And so that was my response. So let me know what you think. You can text me 720-605-0647. Our quote of the day is by Maggie Thatcher. And she was born in 1925 and she died in 2013. And she was prime minister of Britain from 1979 to 1990. She says, you don’t win by just being against things. You only win by being for things and making your message perfectly clear. And the American idea is for individual freedom, for everyday people to be able to live their lives and pursue their dreams. And that certainly is under attack and really by the radical activists that have taken over the Democrat Party. 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SPEAKER 18 : 65:21

You know, I’d like to share something with you. We did an analysis between, let me see, seven insurance companies, State Farm included. And they were farmers, AAA, Allstate, Liberty Mutual, Costco, and Nationwide. The prices for a home at $560,000, and a car at, this is actually two cars, an Acura and a Sienna. These are annual prices. And then an umbrella liability policy. So on the high end of those four policies, home, two cars, and an umbrella liability policy, the range was as low as $3,700 for the same coverages, as high as $8,400. So it’s like, when you buy insurance, it’s very difficult to go out and get all those comparisons and do a good job analyzing and organizing the concept on some kind of a spreadsheet. which, by the way, we would be glad to do for you if you would give us permission. I want to highlight a little bit about the finding here. Turned out that Farmers was the highest, and Liberty Mutual at this point was the lowest, $3,700 versus $8,400. The other companies like AAA, they were at 5,200. Allstate was at 5,200. State Farm was at 4,700. Nationwide was at 4,500. The two companies that were lower than all the rest of them, Liberty Mutual and Costco, Liberty Mutual was at $3,700, actually $1,000 a year less than State Farm. The reason for that is they do not have agents. So if you want an agent, you’re going to pay more because the agent gets a renewal commission for the services he provides to you. Costco was actually a little higher than Liberty Mutual. so there’s a lot of ways to shop for it but you want to make sure your situation is probably unique do you really have the correct amount of coverage for your family at this time in your life you have children that drive those children are learning to drive if they have an accident do you have an umbrella liability policy that steps in behind the liability you have in your cars people you know insurance is getting more expensive why should i buy an umbrella I would say you should definitely have. It’s a must because we have a lot of people out there. Do you listen to lawyers advertise on how they’re going to help you get more money out of a lawsuit? And they do. They get a lot of money out of a lawsuit. And if you have base limits, and base today is different than it was 10 years ago, of course, base today would be $250,000 slash $500,000 slash $100,000. If you don’t know what that means, again, call us. We’ll walk you through it. But if you get sued for $250,000, great, your policy is going to pay it. You get sued for $450,000, all they’re gonna pay is 250 and you’re out $200,000. An umbrella steps in, umbrellas are maybe $200 a year. So you really, and I’m not admonishing you, but take the time and pay attention because the devil is in the details. If you just are looking for the lowest price, then you can go anywhere. You don’t need an agent. But if you really want to protect your family in a very positive and sequential way, we can help you do that.

SPEAKER 17 : 69:09

So, Roger, what is that number for a complimentary appointment?

SPEAKER 18 : 69:14

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SPEAKER 09 : 69:33

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SPEAKER 09 : 70:35

And welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is KimMunson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. And you can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We’re an independent voice. We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something’s a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. I do thank the Harris family for their goal sponsorship of the show. They’ve been great sponsors of the show for many, many years. And as you know, we’re searching for truth and clarity on these issues and very pleased to have on the line my next two guests. That is Maria Sumnick and John Spence. And Maria, you know, I always look at your name and I don’t think I’ve ever asked you how to pronounce your last name. So did I get close on that?

SPEAKER 08 : 71:28

Yeah, you did. It was good. That was good. It’s actually easy once you break it up. It’s S-U-M, like sum, like the sum of two numbers, and then the word for not in German, nicht, N-I-C-H-T.

SPEAKER 09 : 71:42

Okay. Sum, nicht. Okay. Well, Maria Sumnick and John Spence are on the line. Maria was the New York City Cyber Command Urban Technology Architect. And John Spence is the Colorado Director of the EMP Task Force. And I wanted to get them on the line because I saw this article from Newsmax saying, It said, and this was just recently, that the Biden White House made a stunning admission that Chinese hackers have the ability to cripple the American power grid and ports, and it is reportedly not just run-of-the-mill intrusions, but increasingly sophisticated actors with unparalleled skills. So, Maria, what do you think about this?

SPEAKER 08 : 72:26

Well, having… Having led a penetration testing team for the City of New York Cyber Command and having tested some of the components that go into, let’s say, a port crane and other systems that are on ships, like lighting systems, air conditioning, HVACs, which is heating, air conditioning systems, They are all vulnerable. They all have back doors. And trying to get manufacturers to remediate these vulnerabilities was difficult, even in a city the size of New York. What New York has that other cities lack in muscle is the fact that when they buy something, they never buy in small quantities. The city will order 80,000 GPS transponders, right? And that totals in the tens of millions for manufacturers. So we had some muscles like, well, we’re not going to pay you or we’re not even going to buy your thing until you remediate it. So- This is a huge, huge problem, and it seems like it’s not going to get resolved because there is a lack of understanding by government to resolve it. And I’ll let John now talk to that.

SPEAKER 09 : 74:05

Okay, John Spence, Colorado Director of the EMP Task Force. This is scary when I hear the words, this is not going to get resolved, because it puts everyday Americans at tremendous risk. It does.

SPEAKER 06 : 74:18

Yeah, it really does. And we’re the Task Force on National Homeland Security. EMP is a major part of that. The old name was EMP Task Force. Now it’s Task Force on National and Homeland Security, because we’re concerned about all threats, including this threat. So, yeah, I think Maria has really kind of said it all about the Chinese hacking. I mean, they’re into most all of our systems, and it’s a very scary situation and something we’re very concerned about in terms of our critical infrastructure protection. I don’t think I really have a whole lot to add to what Maria said.

SPEAKER 08 : 75:01

Yeah. One thing I’d like to add, Kim – This runs so deep. Back in 2018, there’s a rather large manufacturer of motherboards. So motherboards are the brain in your computers, okay? Just think of them that way. And the name of the manufacturer, I don’t mind calling them out, Super Micro, based out of the San Francisco Bay Area. Now, they were sending their motherboards to be manufactured in China. So the Chinese actually… embedded, you know, ET call home chips on this thing, on these motherboards. Now, what’s scary about this is that super micro motherboards are used on every single server manufactured in every single data center, okay? From the government to, you know, the Google data centers to Facebook data centers, all servers had this motherboard on it. And so think about that. Having a backdoor to every server in the United States, and for that matter of fact, across the world. And just the other day, Cisco released an announcement, Cisco Systems, basically the backbone of hardware on that component. really makes up our World Wide Web, just announced about a hidden backdoor in a server. Again, again, because it was, they used firmware from Huawei, okay, a Chinese company. So this problem is absolutely infiltrated everywhere. everything. There is nothing that is secure from our own cell phones. You think your cell phone is secure? No, they can access your cell phone and take your pictures at any time. Take your picture. What I mean is have access to it and your contacts, whatever, drop in, listen, all that, your computers, everything, everything. And why? Because, and I’m going to call it out as it is, because I have presented in Congress over the summer twice, went to D.C. and presented to them vulnerabilities, not only of the grid, but for me, it’s water as well. I was responsible for the cybersecurity posture of the water systems and did vulnerability assessments against New York City’s water system. And we remediated what we could, but there’s… The funding isn’t there for most water districts to do the type of testing we did in New York City. There are grants available. But the thing is, is without electricity, without the grid, if the grid goes down, the pumps don’t work. Hence, we get no water. Well, without water, most humans, especially young children and babies, cannot live more than three days. So this is really, really critical, and America really needs to hold their representatives accountable, be calling them and saying, why? Why haven’t you done this? You have been presented with information regarding vulnerabilities, not just with information of the vulnerabilities, but remediation, things that they can do right now, but nothing has been done.

SPEAKER 09 : 78:52

Well, John, this, from like a military standpoint, it would be very easy to just basically cripple America immediately, right? Am I hearing that correctly?

SPEAKER 06 : 79:09

Right, and that’s not all of it. I mean, I think you talked about this before, Kim, but we’re importing a very large number of our largest transformers from China, right? From 2006 to 2003, the U.S. has imported almost 450 transformers. Okay, wait a second. 2006 to 2000, what, 23? 2023, yeah. Okay, okay. Okay.

SPEAKER 09 : 79:28

And some of these are the largest, 360 of them, are the largest transmission system transformers necessary for operation of the grid. Okay.

SPEAKER 06 : 79:50

And one thing that came out was a complaint before FERC, F-E-R-C. And in July 16, 2021, the former director of intelligence programs at the National Security Council in the Trump administration confirmed that after the Chinese transformer was taken to the national lab, they found hardware that that was put into that that had the ability for someone in China to switch it off. So you need to have an electromagnetic pulse attack to take out the grid necessarily. China could do it just by switching off many of its very large transformers.

SPEAKER 08 : 80:36

Right. And make it look like it’s a cyber attack, Kim, because they can really all that happened in the background is they flipped a switch. Okay. Because they have a into this thing. Like I said, they have back doors into every server. You know, if people haven’t done things to harden their systems, their server farms, their cloud computing centers, this is a huge problem. This is really a big problem.

SPEAKER 06 : 81:05

And, you know, back in – you were talking about the phones earlier. Some of our adversaries have the capabilities, as we do, to use phones as a listening device. And to take pictures, you know, using the phones. So when we did top secret work back in those days, we could take the battery out of our phone and talk about it. But whenever we went into a real secure facility, we couldn’t take the phones in with us. So, you know, that’s something that is certainly a concern and well known about in the government, I think.

SPEAKER 09 : 81:47

Okay, let’s continue this discussion with Maria Sumdick and John Spence. They’re both regarding these vulnerabilities, not making me feel very good about this. And we’re at significant risk. It is important that we discuss this, that’s for sure. And so many different things, it seems like. of these lives that we take for granted are under attack. And if we talk about it on a regular basis as well, there is this war on beef. And beef is such a great protein source in our diets, and so we are shedding light on that on a regular basis as well. And for a really great premium product, it truly is the steakhouse experience at home, check out Lavaca Meat Company.

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SPEAKER 09 : 84:45

And welcome back, Kim Munson Show. Check out our website. That is Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at Kim Munson dot com as well. Thank you. Support us. We’re an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something’s a good idea, you should have to force people to do it. January 23rd, Thursday evening, there’s going to be two great events, and choose one or the other, but you need to be probably at one or the other. One is the Center for American Values in Pueblo, and the center is located on the beautiful Riverwalk there. They’re having an on-values president regarding the USS Pueblo, which was taken captive by the North Koreans in the Vietnam War. And the crew was held in captivity for a year. And Robert Chica, who was one of those prisoners of war, is going to be presenting down at the center. And you can get more information about all of that at AmericanValueCenter.org. And then the Colorado Union of Taxpayers will be having our legislative kickoff at the Colorado Automobile Dealers Association. You can buy your tickets. They’re only $10.00. and you can also join us and become a member and you will get our emails that we send to legislate legislators and the governor each week regarding proposed legislation down at the state house and you need to be informed so you can figure out what to do and that’s one of the things we’re doing right now is being informed about something that is very very troubling uh talking with maria sumnick she is the former new well she was the new york city cyber command urban technology architect And John Spence, who is the Colorado director of the, you said now it’s Homeland Security and EMP.

SPEAKER 06 : 86:34

Task Force on National and Homeland Security. It’s a non-profit organization. Okay.

SPEAKER 09 : 86:41

Doing such important work. John, I’m going to go to you first, coming in from our listeners. How can we remedy this? Certainly, reaching out to our elected representatives is a place to start, but there doesn’t seem to be the political will to do anything about this, John Spence.

SPEAKER 06 : 87:00

Well, I think the people need to get a hold of all their congresspeople and let them know about their concerns and how important it is because they’re the only ones that can change things. Now, President Trump, he’s well aware of a lot of these things. Our former director, Peter Pry, briefed him on the EMP threat, and he had some executive orders, some of which Biden rescinded, but he had one on supply issues. on the supply chain and Biden didn’t continue that one at least, but we need to do more and more to, uh, secure this so we can secure our critical infrastructure.

SPEAKER 09 : 87:40

So Maria, if, um, Trump is aware of this, uh, it seems like this is so embedded. Where do we. Yeah.

SPEAKER 08 : 87:50

Um, he, I believe was briefed about four, four years ago. So he probably needs a, um, a refresher where things are right now. So hopefully his administration will reach out, not so much to the utilities or the operators, but to experts like John Spence and some other experts, EMP task force. But there are things we can call our senators. I don’t like to say don’ts. You know, the sky is falling without actually bringing things that people can actually do and make suggestions so they’re not just calling, what are you doing? So call your – call. And it doesn’t matter which side of the aisle you’re on, what you – you are all going to get affected by this. So everyone should be calling their representatives. And here’s a couple things. So at the – There are agencies there that can examine the grid equipment that was purchased overseas for any malicious hardware that could be accessed remotely by our adversaries. Request your congressman to put bills forward that require this. Identify any immediate hardening of critical locations. And actually, people have already done this, but nothing has been done. So there are plans in place that at least hardening the electrical grid that is next to our military bases. This is the most troubling of all this is every military base on American soil is is actually connected to our public grid. And that’s how they get their power. And if the power goes out, they have maybe, John, correct me if I’m wrong, about 48 hours of backup power. So that needs to be resolved. And our military bases need to have their own independent source of power from the public grid, from privately owned utilities. Also, order the use of endpoint security on our grid SCADA system. SCADA, these are the networks that control all the bells and all the valves, all the controls in a, you know, without digging too deep into it, in a grid system or a water system, any industrial system. Many of these SCADA systems control systems do not have any endpoints at all. And so these are things that can be done. And Congress, I mean, if they can send billions, I believe we’re well over 600, is it billion dollars to Ukraine? Can you imagine what could have been done if that money would have gone towards doing these, even these three things? So, I mean, that’s just to start. And then from a physical security perspective, you know, to attach National Guards on rotation to the most critical location on the grid and provide 24-hour protection. Most grid substations, I mean, we drive by them all day. We don’t even notice them. They just have a chain link fence around them. That is it. That’s the only protection that they have. So they’re very vulnerable. And they can take out large groups. So things can be done.

SPEAKER 09 : 91:43

But I feel like John spends like we are in such a vulnerable position. And the fact is, is the Biden administration now is admitting that they knew about this well over a year ago, probably if not before. But I’m thinking this is just just dumb that I don’t know what else to say that we would let us get into this position. And I’m thinking, where are the where’s the the the boards of these utilities? Where are the board members there? Where is the management of these utilities? Why are they not out there saying? They could certainly be putting pressure on Congress to try to do things to get this shored up. Why has this not happened, John Spence?

SPEAKER 06 : 92:36

Well, I can’t say totally what’s happened. I don’t know what the utilities have actually done. tried to do. Certainly, it appears that they could do more. One of the things I wanted to mention to the readers, they give them a good understanding, I think, of the problem with the grid, because electricity powers everything. There’s a movie, Grid Down, Power Up, and you can Google Grid Down, Power Up to get to the movie. The trailer is done by Dennis Quaid, and it’s really well done. Essentially, what this does is It says that the public risks from shutting down completely an orchestrated physical attack, electromagnetic pulse attack, cyber attack, magnetic disturbance could shut down our electric grid for as long as one calendar year or longer. So think about how you would survive if that was to happen. And our electric utilities haven’t implemented sufficient precautions to protect our grid yet. And people are not yet aware of all the dangers, but this is an extremely good movie that gets into all the aspects of the problems with the electric grid, which would really help everybody. It has a link in there to get to your congressional people to voice your concern about it.

SPEAKER 09 : 94:00

Okay. They might get something done, Maria, because it’s basically a flip of the switch. This could happen between now and the inauguration, right? I mean, we’re in tremendous danger.

SPEAKER 08 : 94:14

We are, especially with a cold front coming through, I believe, Friday, Saturday, Sunday. And I don’t know if you know that. I watch the weather all the time because it does affect all kinds of systems and And that would be an opportune time, right? Think of, think of, you know, military strategy and, and the adversary does use that. So preparation, prepare your home, uh, have, you know, I know it sounds, uh, rather like a large ass, but have at least three months of water for your family, your pets, um, and food, um, ways to heat your home, especially in areas where there’s going to be sub-zero temperatures. And we saw that in Texas a few years ago. I mean, Texas had sub-zero. They were not prepared at all. And I’m going to throw this under, I’m going to throw them under the bus, but the green energy initiatives will never work. Solar will never work. wind will never work. And we saw that in Texas. We saw that when there’s a huge, big freeze, that, um, those types of energy systems providing energy, reliable, continuous energy during something like a, uh, severe, uh, a freeze, uh, they’re unreliable. And, and, um, I know the administrations and the United Nations, the World Economic Forum, all these organizations are pushing for green energy. Green energy is not the solution at all. In fact, it will make us more vulnerable than ever before.

SPEAKER 09 : 96:12

Yeah, this is super, super sobering. One of our listeners, Dave, said this. He said the discussion of these grid vulnerabilities is why there are so many people that are prepping out there. And it just makes sense to even, I was in South California and we talked about, I think that Brad Beck called them bug out bags to have something ready. If you need to move quickly, have your gas tanks ready. full, although if the grid goes down, our vehicles are vulnerable as well because they have electric systems, right, Maria?

SPEAKER 06 : 96:50

Yeah, yes. Unless you have a really old automobile, you know, back when you had a carburetor and distributor, what is that, around 1985 or so, those should be okay. And not all automobiles will necessarily… be vulnerable. And it depends on a lot of things like the intensity and location of the EMP and so forth. Some cars may continue to work. And, you know, with the intermittent power caused by this renewable energy, you know, there’s more and more blackouts. People that have solar with battery backup on their phone, you know, are somewhat protected from that. And the other thing is there’s companies out there that make solar systems that that have been tested to exceed military EMP standards. So if you’re going to buy a solar, you may as well get one of those systems for about the same amount of money, most likely, and really be protected. But here’s the thing. You know, if there is a long-term power outage, it’s very likely to chaos going on. And, you know, if you’re in a location, a big city or something like that, be careful. You know, it’s going to be hard to have law and order because, you know, all the police and the military people, they’re going to go home to to protect their own family. So, you know, you know. it’s going to be a real problem being in a highly populated area.

SPEAKER 09 : 98:20

Okay, just about out of time. So somehow writing my congressperson is not very comforting to me right now, Marie.

SPEAKER 08 : 98:33

I know.

SPEAKER 09 : 98:34

I’ve been to Washington, I’ve been to Hill, and I see just a lot of different – people that are bent on just getting reelected. And I guess we as the American people, I don’t know.

SPEAKER 06 : 98:52

I don’t know what to say. His administration is probably the biggest thing right now, getting through to President Trump, because as President of the United States, he could do a lot more. He can do a lot more. And so I would see that as our biggest hope right now in regards to that.

SPEAKER 09 : 99:10

Okay. And, gosh, I sure feel like we are very vulnerable right now, particularly from now until the inauguration, Maria.

SPEAKER 08 : 99:19

I agree. I agree. And there’s one of the task force members, you know, he has an excellent book. And I recommend it because if something does happen, what’s really going to matter is your mental preparedness, right? along with your spiritual preparedness. But he’s got a really good book that’s – his name is John Hollerman, and it’s Experimental Psychology and Survival Emergency Preparedness. So this – it kind of walks you through the different phases of long-term – not having what you’re used to having, you know, psychologically what that does to you and to your family members, to the people around your neighbors. So, um, that’s, that’s the part that people, I think, you know, they, they buy all this stuff and it’s okay. I’m good here with my style. You really, it, this, this is really about what’s going to happen mentally in, and, um, And people really – that’s where people are falling short. You need to prepare psychologically, mentally, spiritually for something like this. And the only thing I have left is we have major disasters going on right now, and one seems to have disappeared into the – you know, uh, into the, the, the back books of history, but what happened in North Carolina and Eastern Tennessee, these people, um, and there’s thousands of them are without anything. Um, and they, their communities got wiped out, you know, so what do you do with disasters like this? Now we have the LA fires. So, um, This is – you’ve got to really take care of yourself mentally because that’s the only thing that’s going to get you through. Okay.

SPEAKER 06 : 101:24

Well, John – If you go to our website, emptaskforce.us, it shows these books, okay? Okay. The ones that Maria talked about, and there’s a new one we did on catastrophe now. And it shows a lot of sources that you can go to to learn more about this and to – protect your, you can learn about how better to protect your family.

SPEAKER 09 : 101:47

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Welcome back to the Kim Munson Show. Check out our website. That’s kimmunson.com. Do check out the website for the USMC Memorial Foundation. Make sure that you make that, put that on your list of entity to support this year. It’s important that we remember and honor those that have given their lives, have been willing to give their lives for our freedom. And I got us jammed up on time, so I apologize. This did come in on the text line. It says, our hope and trust is in God. People’s hearts need to be transformed. And then also this came in, bugging out should always be a last resort. When you bug out, you’re leaving everything. You must make decisions you need to bring with you. It’s much easier to stay put if you can. And about a lot of different things, and I know Gammy is on the line. She’s got some. Gammy, welcome.

SPEAKER 07 : 104:59

Good morning. And before I start, I’m going to send out a special thank you to Action Anne, Trevor Loudon, and Katie Hobbs, because for two and a half years, they’ve been screaming about the China connections. And remember when we were talking all the dimming Dane Wigington and all these other geoengineering events? I want to tie this together, connect the dots to everything you said today. My fingers are sore from taking notes. I’m serious. The Cities 40 UN project is about smart cities that tie into the socialist, communist, small city controlled population. Well, Los Angeles bought into the smart city 28th and they have the Olympics 28th. And isn’t it interesting that all the places being burned up are going to be able to be used for the new smart city and Olympic in L.A.? You don’t think that these are just incidences. And then you go to North Carolina. Kamala Harris’s husband owns one of the lithium companies. Listen. This is nationally and internationally connected to the World Economic Forum and the U.N. and its agenda 2030 to get rid of like two thirds of the people. And there are 30 wild, you know, massive parts of the planet. This is all connect the dots. And look, Biden is complicit with China. He’s complicit with Ukraine. And they have over 46 bio labs for geoengineering, bio weapons and genetics. Everywhere you look, it all connects to land. How many of our congresspeople have dual citizenship with Israel to boot? There’s too much going on for it to be a coincidence. Ohio, bridges, you know.

SPEAKER 09 : 106:56

So what should we do about this, Gammy? Because it is pretty overwhelming.

SPEAKER 07 : 107:05

Agreed. And I joke about doing training, whether it’s range or self-defense, etc., you know, or like you said, bug out bags, food preparation. But we can’t just go to the specific legislators that don’t listen to us. We have to put the light on them, shed light on them and all these institutions, because basically the elites, the Inter-Minority Fund, they’re controlling us on every step. And we as locally is what I’m trying to say. We have to get our local representatives and people in power to buy into the fact that local communities need to have some power and some backing.

SPEAKER 09 : 107:51

Right. And right. And I want to get to have a discussion of this as well. We’re just about out of time. But one of our listeners sent this over on Smart Cities Connect and had a list of the 2023 participating cities. And when we look at this, there’s a lot of different cities in Colorado that on this list. And I’m just going to very quickly run down this and then we’re going to have to have another discussion. But city of Colorado Springs. City of Denver, Aurora. Okay, let’s see. Next, Fort Collins, Adams County, Arapahoe County, Chaffee County, Broomfield, Brighton, Canyon City, Castle Pines, Centennial, Okay, let’s see. Fort Lupton. Okay. Greeley. Grand Junction. Why is it that Colorado has such a presence here? Lone Tree. Longmont. So Jefferson County. And we have quite a showing here from Colorado. So we’re going to discuss that because GAMI is right. We need to address this at the local level. And we’re working on that. There is a lot to do, but we need to be engaged in our local governments and be paying attention to what’s going on. So we’ll continue this discussion. Our quote for the end of the show, I went to Maggie Thatcher. And I guess that we can all, so many of you said, hey, I’d never heard this quote and I love it. But Maggie Thatcher said this. She says, when I’m out of politics, I’m going to run a business and it’ll be called Rent-A-Spine. So my friends today, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you. God bless America. We’ll talk tomorrow.

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And I don’t want no one to cry. But if I don’t survive, I was born.

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