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This episode also features an engaging discussion with Danny Roebuck about his latest film, Saint Nick of Bethlehem. Roebuck shares the heartfelt story behind the film, a touching narrative of transformation and love set during the Christmas season. From his experiences in the film industry to American moviegoers’ shifting tastes, Roebuck provides thoughtful commentary that resonates with audiences seeking authenticity and tradition in modern cinema.
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For thee, but not for me. And I agree that we’ve got to change that.
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If, in fact, you are working for the man, it’s a new form of slavery.
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Is it freedom or is it force? Let’s have a conversation.
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Indeed, let’s have a conversation, and welcome to the Kim Munson Show. Thank you so much for joining us. You’re each treasured, you’re valued, you have purpose today. Strive for excellence. Take care of your heart, your soul, your mind, and your body. My friends, we were made for this moment in history. And thank you to the team. That’s Producer Joe, Luke, Rachel, Zach, Echo, Charlie, Mike, and all the people here at Crawford Broadcasting. Happy Wednesday, Producer Joe.
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Happy Wednesday, Kim.
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You know, I was looking at the weather, and remember last week at this time we were getting all this snow. Today it’s supposed to get up to 50 degrees, tomorrow to 57. So the weather in Colorado is, we’ve got quite a bit of climate changing here in Colorado, Producer Joe. Are you sure? I think so. I think it’s called weather and I think that it’s occurred on a pretty regular basis. The climate does change. It’s changed since the beginning of the earth. So that’s why I think you should take a look at our movie, a climate conversation and a climate conversation.com. Check out the amazing podcast that we’re creating as well to compliment the movie. But it’s a project of Walt Johnson. He wanted to create a documentary to just have a A good Socratic questioning with experts and scientists. And then the podcast series is quite amazing when you look at the amazing guests that we have. So be sure and check out climateconversation.com. Let’s see. Check out the website. That is Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. And you’ll find the recaps of the shows. The podcasts are there as well. And so what Zach does is there is a summary of each of the shows. You click on the image. It brings up the summary. Embedded in that is the podcast. Once that podcast is published there, though, you can also find the podcast at Spotify, iTunes, all those different places. But sign up for our weekly email newsletter. Thank you. That way you’ll get first look at our upcoming guests as well as our most recent essays. You can email me at kim at kimmunson.com. The text line is 720-605-0647. And thank you to all of you who support us. We are an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity. by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something’s a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And my friends, it’s never compassionate to take other people’s stuff, whether or not it’s their rights, their property, their freedom, their livelihood, opportunities or lives via force. And obviously, force can be a weapon, but it’s also policy and unpredictable and excessive taxation, fear, coercion, government induced inflation. the World Economic Forum, and their agenda. And this is all connected. The globalist elites agenda, the United Nations, the Colorado State Legislature, the Colorado Governor, the World Health Organization, land use codes, zoning regulations, and the list goes on and on and on. And remember, you don’t have to use force if something is a good idea. Our word of the day… is dilatory, and it is spelled D-I-L-A-T-O-R-Y. It’s an adjective. It could be causing or intended to cause delay. It could also mean characterized by or given to delay or slowness. We’re inclined to defer or put off what ought to be done at once. Procrastination, delaying, loitering. So this is what we’re going to be seeing in Washington, D.C. right now from both sides of the aisle, from PBIs, politicians and bureaucrats. They’re going to be very dilatory as Donald Trump is trying to put in place a government to make our government smaller. He apparently has tapped Vivek Ramaswamy and Elon Musk to go through and trim government. which that’s going to be super interesting to watch that, to see what happens with that. And I’m sure that there are PBIs on both sides of the aisle that will be very dilatory in the Donald Trump agenda. But I think he’s the fool me once in his first term. He thought he’d come into Washington and work with those in power, and they just slow walked everything. And I think this time he means business. And so stay tuned. It’s just amazing the announcements that continue to come forward on these different cabinet positions. And so we’ll talk about that here in just a little bit. And our quote of the day is from Henry Ford, born in 1863, died in 1947. He was an American industrialist and business magnate. He was the founder of Ford Motor Company. And credited as a pioneer in making automobiles affordable for the middle class through the system that he’s known as Fordism, or it’s also known as the assembly line. And he was awarded a patent for the transmission mechanism that would be used in the Ford Model T and other automobiles. And Henry Ford said that you can’t build a reputation on what you are going to do. And so let’s take action. And of course, we’re seeing that with Donald Trump. I didn’t have this much in this day in history. Only three things. One was 2001. U.S. President George W. Bush orders that the Strategic Petroleum Reserve be filled to capacity over the next few years. And I would think that Donald Trump will do the same after the Biden-Harris administration had really drained our strategic petroleum reserve in 2019. Venice was hit by its worst floods for 50 years due to a very high tide with waves in St. Mark’s Square killing one resident. And certainly that is a weather event, gets our attention. But note that there was also a weather or a flood of 50 years ago. And so it’s important that we realize throughout history there’s been these weather events. And then in 2021, the Glasgow Climate Pack agreed to COP26. Apparently, COP29 is meeting right now, as we learned from Steve Gorman yesterday, where over 50,000 PBIs flew into a port on the Caspian Sea. Of course, they flew in on jets that were using jet fuel from fossil fuels to talk about how to get rid of fossil fuels. And it commits countries to a phase down of unabated coal and end deforestation by 2030 and cut methane emissions by 30% by 2030 as well. So that happened in 2021. We’ll have to see what all those 50,000 PBIs come up with now. Headlines. First thing, and this was quite interesting, Colorado Senator Chris Hansen is resigning just after he had a landslide reelection win. And as I checked on the website, that particular election. It looks like there was no Republican that was competing in that race. And Chris Hansen has been very, very supportive of the POLA’s progressive agenda. And so this is from KDVR. And this is many times what the Democrats do, is they win election, then they go off into some other job, And then the Democrat Party appoints someone for that position. And so that’s how we end up with not having elected representatives in our state and Senate, because this is a strategy that they’ve been using for quite some time. And he’s going to become the CEO of the La Plata Electric Association. And that’s going to be super interesting as well, because as you look at the policies here in Colorado trying to move us to all electric while we have challenges with wind and solar, it’s going to be super interesting to see what happens. And so he’s been serving in the Colorado Senate since 2020. And he took office in 2020 after he was named by a vacancy committee to fill Lois Court’s seat. And then he was elected the following election. And he also ran for mayor in 2023, but lost to Denver Mayor Mike Johnston. And he earned almost 84 percent of the votes cast last Tuesday. So this, again, this is a strategy that the Democrats use on a regular basis here in Colorado. Next thing, Trump is naming more and more people to his cabinet. And this is from, let’s see, well, it says it’s just politics. A Daily Caller, excuse me, says President-elect Donald Trump has announced Tuesday evening that Fox News host and veteran Pete Hegseth will be his pick for Secretary of Defense in his upcoming administration. And since last week, Trump has been releasing names for his cabinet after winning both the Electoral College and the popular vote. And he announced his decision on Fox and Friends regarding Pete Hegseth. And so goes on to say that Pete has been a warrior for the troops and for the country. He’s tough, smart and a true believer in America first. So that is interesting there. Let’s see. Next thing I wanted to mention was it looks like there’s going to be some lawfare here in Colorado. This is from Fox 31 and it says there’s an investigation that finds the Douglas County Sheriff and others violated law in the union election process. And it says, according to findings by the Department of Labor and Employment, Dola, weekly, Sheriff Weekly, as well as under Sheriff David Walcher and County Commissioners George Thiel, Abe Layden and Laura Thomas were found to have committed unfair labor practices in violation of the collective bargaining by County Employees Act, which was passed in 2023. here in colorado the county was ordered to stop all anti-collective bargaining actions distribute the determination letter to all employees and post a notice informing employees about their rights under state law and so as the board of douglas county commissioners and sheriff weekly announced tuesday that they had appealed the decision on november 7th and they also filed a request to stop the enforcement actions until the appeal is resolved And it says, according to a decision letter, the Colorado State Fraternal Order of Police began collecting signatures early in 2024. The signatures were collected to show interest in a representation election, which was eventually scheduled to start on April 29th before being canceled. So stay tuned on all of that as well. The next headline that I did want to mention, and this is from Colorado Politics, it says, Trump is expected to move a Space Command headquarters out of Colorado in his first week. And we talked a little bit about this yesterday. It looks like he is going to move the Space Command, and that is separate from the Space Force, to Alabama. And then this also super interesting, and this is from MSN and Fox Business. It says Dallas salon owner who wins a Texas house seat after she’d been jailed during the COVID, a reaction to COVID. And apparently after about a month, her hairstylist and all said, we can’t feed our families. We can’t. We’re not making any money. So she actually opened up to do her business and was jailed in order to do that. But isn’t history an interesting thing? Is Americans step forward, stand for our rights? And here she is a few years later and that she will be in the Texas House of Representatives. So super interesting on all of this. Thank you to the Harris family for their gold sponsorship of the show. And it is Wednesday, so that means it’s Wings Day at Hooters Restaurants. You buy 20 wings, you get an additional 10 for free. The girls are coming over tonight, so we will be partaking of that. And in particular… I like the Texas barbecue rub and the lemon pepper rub on those wings. But Hooters has five locations, Loveland, Aurora, Lone Tree, Westminster, and Colorado Springs. Great place to get together for their lunch specials Monday through Friday as well. And as I’ve mentioned, the Roger Mangan State Farm Insurance team has moved their offices. 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And welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter and you can email me at Kim at Kim Munson dot com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We’re an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. Something’s a good idea. You shouldn’t have to force people to do it. So pleased to have on the line with me Danny Roebuck. He is he’s a movie star and he has a substantial resume as an actor, writer, director. He’s been in the business for over 30 years and he can easily and it’s very apparent through some of his most recent movies that he can move easily between different medians and he’s worked in television movies and on the stage. His credits include The Fugitive, U.S. Marshals, and Final Destination, as well as other titles such as Agent Cody Banks and its sequel, That’s What I Am, Money Talks, Flash of Genius, and so many more. And now his favorite genre, though, is horror movies. We’re not really going to talk about that because he’s got this amazing movie coming out for holidays. I guess we can talk a little bit about that. Danny Roebuck, welcome to the show.
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Kim, thank you. My gosh. Do me a favor. Just live a little longer than I do. I’d love for you to give my eulogy. Bring all that stuff. And the time is right. Just jump in there. I felt kind of like Tom Sawyer listening to his own funeral. That’s so sweet of you to say such nice things. Yeah, we got a new movie coming out, but a lot of movies in the past, and I’m open to talking about any of them. They’ve all been great opportunities to share the gift God gave me, no matter what the genre.
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Well, what I’m really excited about is my friend Susan Kochavar, who’s also a sponsor of the show. She’s owner of 88 Drive-In Theater here in the Colorado Front Range. And she closes, obviously, for the winter, but she’s going to do something very special to kick off the holiday season. She’s going to open the – and we have very – we’ve had a lot of snow last week, but we have – Denver actually has very mild weather. And, in fact, it’s supposed to be 50 today, 59 tomorrow. So hopefully we’ve got our fingers crossed for the weekend of Friday the 22nd, Saturday the 23rd, and Sunday the 24th of November, because she is going to be screening or showing your movie, St. Nick of Bethlehem. And I showed it to producer Joe yesterday. We were watching the trailer, and it is darling. It looks like a darling movie. So set this up for us, Danny Roebuck.
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Well, it’s an extraordinary moment in time because this year Hollywood is giving you two kind of Santa opportunities. One is a Paramount Plus movie starring Jack Black as Satan, a kid they say isn’t so bright. He misspelled Santa’s name and his letter goes to Satan. And Satan comes and they have a Satan Christmas together. And the other one is Red One, where Santa Claus is kidnapped, and there’s a lot of explosions and sexual innuendo. And then there’s our movie, Saint Nick of Bethlehem. I like yours. Thank you. Go ahead. A regular fella suffered tragedy. His son died tragically, and… it was out warning and it sent this fellow on a downward spiral to the point where he kind of even let himself go put on weight okay you know it didn’t shave started looking like santa claus people started saying hey santa calling him santa and uh well he decided that uh he was going to put on that persona to try to assuage his grief and he found that with every present he gave He also gave away a bit of his grief. And so the story is about this transformation and this acceptance of a tragedy and moving on to another phase of his life, which is a godly good person phase through which he portrays Santa Claus for his community.
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Well, and the story also, it looks like there’s a bit of a love story in it as well, yes?
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Which is also based on, yeah, the guy, after all this tragedy, ended up, would you believe, finding his high school sweetheart. And she’s now his Mrs. Claus. It’s just… Yeah, there’s a love story, there’s comedy. It’s a funny, I’ve made four movies, collaborated on two of them. One was my own daughter getting, my daughter Grace, we made a movie called Lucky Louie, a very fun mystery that’s on, you know, you can find it on Netflix. Amazon Prime and everything. And Spencer Fulmer and I made this one because he had found the story and we co-wrote and co-directed it. And we just wanted it to be completely entertaining 100% of the time. And it flies. It’s an hour and a half sleigh ride through Christmas.
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I love that. Now, Danny, as I was doing some research, it’s St. Nick of Bethlehem, and you grew up in Bethlehem, Pennsylvania, or you were born there, right?
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I did, and I did grow up there. There’s no town in America that does Christmas like Bethlehem. It is the Christmas City is their moniker, and they’ve even doubled down their Christmas presentations. They have a Kris Kindle Mart. They have these glass furnaces, and they light them for Christmas with red and green lights. It’s like their Eiffel Tower. This downtown Bethlehem, one of the reasons that it’s a great place to celebrate Christmas, Kim, is because it was founded in the 1740s by the Moravians, and they were a very tight-knit religious group, and they felt that they found a very humble area that could serve their needs. It wasn’t grandiose. And the story is that the original founder of the town, I think it was Count Zinzendorf, who was the pastor, and I could be getting this wrong, said, you know, Bethlehem was a lowly town raised high by the birth of Christ. So they humbly named their town Bethlehem with the hopes that it would spurn great things into the world.
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Wow, that’s amazing. So, Danny Roebuck, you’ve been in the business for a long time. And Susan Kochovar, who is the owner of 88 Drive-In Theater, has as well. And are you seeing the American people are really gravitating? Are they hungry for these kinds of movies? Or what do you see?
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Well, here’s what I feel that I see, and I don’t want to rile feathers, but you’re asking me a question, so I’m going to give you my answer. I think what’s happened in recent weeks in the country is a clear indication that everything’s moving too fast, and people require it to slow down. And, you know, it’s not that people are opposed to change, but it can’t be demanded of them, you know. And so I think we have to slow down. And so much of the entertainment people have been getting lately, and I’m sure Susan notices it, is is tinged with a political activism. And I can’t lie and say there’s no activism behind my films. My films have a godly activism. You don’t have to believe in God to be entertained by them, but it might help you understand them at a deeper level. And I just think people want centric, easy to follow, easy to watch, simple comedy, simple drama. that’s what I think they want. And that’s the kind of movies I’ve been making. Like I set my personal clock back to my favorite movies are from the 70s. Not every favorite movie is from the 70s, but many of them are. So I set my clock to the 60s and the 70s, and I try to make movies that would fit. If you watched it 40, 50 years ago, you’d think it was made at the same time.
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That’s so interesting, because when Joe and I were watching your trailer, it really touched us. So Joe’s 26, and it reminded him of some of the Christmas movies. And Joe, you can jump in and hear my ear, but I think it was, at least from the trailer, was… A wonderful life, I think. It just really touched his heart and it touched mine as well. So I’m very excited about Susan bringing this in and have it out at the 88 Drive-In Theater. And I think it’s going to be really exciting. And I really appreciate you taking the time to join us and just give us the human interest component of this, Danny Roebuck. I’m really excited about it.
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I’m so blessed that people want to talk about this stuff. Look, I’m a kid from a small town. Bethlehem’s a beautiful place, but it’s not huge. And, you know, I was set on a path, and the path was so clear to me, probably like your path, Kim, is clear, was clear, and it always has been maybe. And the path was so clear, and I look back now and I think, All of the success was to lead me back home and to give me the knowledge to do what God needs me to do to celebrate the people and the area and the ideas of this small town. And they’re not all. They’re not all. You know, the ideas aren’t all. right way and they’re not all godly but they’re you know it’s a town that has a great a great center down it’s it’s between progressiveness and nostalgism and and it’s just a really exciting place to be uh and uh i’m i love it so much i think we’re pulling up stakes in california and moving moving to bethlehem
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Now that, so you’re really making a statement there, Danny Roebuck. Well, I think that we’re going to get a talk again before the movie is here in Denver. But Danny Roebuck, St. Nick of Bethlehem, keep up the great work, and we will talk again soon, and have a great day.
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Now, can I just ask, Kim, people that follow it on Facebook or follow me on Facebook or Instagram, but St. Nick and Bethlehem or Daniel Roebuck, and you’ll get a lot of good information and a lot of behind-the-scenes information. Thank you so much for having me.
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You bet, and we will talk very soon. And, again, that last name is spelled R-O-E-B-U-C-K. And, Danny, have a great day.
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Thank you. Bye-bye.
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And welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Check out our website. That is Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMunson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We’re an independent voice. We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something is a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And do check out the USMC Memorial Foundation’s website. They are raising money for the remodel of the Marine Memorial. And they’re going to have these great pathways of service where you can buy a brick to honor your loved one’s military service or your military service. It is a fabulous gift. You’ll receive a beautiful certificate. And during the month of November, there is a match. You buy a brick during November and there is a donor that will match that as well. So you can get all of that information at USMCMemorialFoundation.org. Very pleased to have on the line with me, Jeffrey Tucker. He is the founder, author and president at Brownstone Institute. He’s also senior economics columnist for The Epoch Times, author of 10 books, including Life After Lockdown. and thousands of articles in the scholarly and popular press, and he speaks widely on topics of economics, technology, social philosophy, and culture. Jeffrey Tucker, welcome to the show. Jeffrey, we got you? Yeah. Okay. I’m right here. Okay, great. Can you hear me? I got you. So, well, welcome. And I want to talk about, you’re writing so many important pieces, but before we get into that, you’ve got your finger on the pulse of what’s happening in Washington, D.C., and President-elect Trump. What’s your perspective on all that’s going on?
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Well, Trump’s got a mandate, that’s for sure. And it’s something like flatten the establishment, disrupt everything, change everything. Washington, D.C. is long overdue for some kind of revolutionary shift, and it’s away from everything that the distribution coalitions of academia, media, big tech, medicine, and government bureaucracy wants. And so I think that is the mandate, and we’ll Trump gets that. I mean, he’s nothing if not a populist. So I think a lot of this comes down to the follow up is going to be, you know, sort of the MAGA style voters pressing Trump on all the main issues. And, you know, as satisfying as things like deportations and tariffs are. the real challenge is going to be cutting back the government itself. And here’s where I think there’s probably room for some optimism concerning his closeness with Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy.
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So I’m sure that bureaucrats are somewhat concerned about all of this cutting back on government. We need to do it. I did have a listener that texted me and said, though, that he would hope that Trump and Musk and Ramaswamy, that they would actually cut not just across the board, but to go in and take a look at each of the roles. And I think that probably makes a lot of sense, Jeffrey.
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Well, what you can look at is what Elon did when he took over Twitter. Over the course of a very short period of time, he cut four out of five employees and made the place function better than ever because he knows more than anybody else that the big problem with organizations is is uh too much in the way of craft you know just too many people doing nothing and that’s a pretty good description of government actually so um if i think probably elon aspires to see four out of five employees cut out of government and here’s the thing um You can pretty much be sure that the people that are being cut are not Trump supporters. I think they can rely on that with a great deal of confidence. So that’s not going to hurt him politically. That’s certainly not going to be harmful economically. How to do it, we’ve never seen anything like this before. The big barriers are, of course, legislation that gives the civil service special protections. But with the House and Senate on his side and with a popular mandate to do it, there’s really nothing that’s out of the question. We’ve had an entrenched civil service in this country for many decades, really dating back to its origins with the Pendleton Act of 1883. But before then, During America’s greatest growingest years, we had a system whereby the new president would be in charge of populating the executive branch with his own. But he had the discretion to hire and fire over the executive department, and that’s what they did. And when Andrew Jackson took over, he fired everybody and so on. So I think that’s what Trump would like to do, and I think that’s what Elon believes. The idea that, for example, if Elon took over Twitter and that if there were – half the workforce he couldn’t control. In what sense is he the CEO? That doesn’t make any sense at all. I think they’re bringing that same logic to the executive branch. But remember, we’re dealing with 430 agencies and more than 2 million permanent employees. They’re going to have to take that on in a very, very big way and do it really fast.
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Boy, that is, it’s monumental for sure. And it seems like right before the election, the jobs report, Biden had added, there was a relatively good jobs report. But then you looked at the jobs created, they were primarily government jobs. And we really want to get, you know, get this economy going so that the jobs that are really being created is over in the private sector. And so I think that’s really important.
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Yeah, well, your point about the jobs raises a very difficult topic, which is that Trump has inherited a recession. And I think it’s time that he just say this outright, because we’ve been in recession, technical recession, inflationary recession now for the better part of three years. And all the data releases have just been silly and untrue and easily discoverable as fraud once you look into the deeper data. they’ve just been putting up press releases now for three years having nothing to do with the underlying data. That’s particularly true with jobs, but it’s also true with inflation and GDP and retail sales and factory orders, the works. Everything is messed up. And so that is the economy Trump inherits. So he’s going to be dealing with really serious structural issues that optimism and hope and hard work are not going to be able to overcome, namely inflation and low investment. So recessionary conditions, essentially. So if they’re going to mitigate against this and create an economic boom, and I don’t mean a stock market boom. That’s the easy part. I mean that genuine, the real economy boom. If they want to create that before the midterms, they’re going to have to get to work right away and have a bonfire of regulations, have dramatic and immediate capital gains tax cuts and things that inspire growth. There’s really nothing they can do to deal with the problem of inflation, which has actually came in again at a very high rate. Over 12 months, I’m looking at 2.6%, which is which is higher than their targets by far. And it’s continuing to be a problem. My read on inflation is that it’s re-accelerating. And looking at the underlying factors that are driving inflation, we’re very likely to see it get worse before it gets better. And probably peaking late summer 2025, based on the data I’m seeing. So in order to mitigate against that, they really have to They have to cut the budget dramatically and stop this outrageous releasing of T-bills, flooding the world with T-bills like they’ve been doing for the last year. And that’ll cut back on money supply increases and then push back against all the inevitable price increases with dramatic economic growth. And that’s going to require regulatory cuts, dramatic spending cuts. and tax cuts. And I think, you know, if they go about this the right way, and they have to, we could see boom times return before the midterms.
SPEAKER 19 :
Wow, that is so hopeful, Jeffrey Tucker. And we had a question come in on the text line, and then we’ll go to break. We’ll come back because this piece that you’ve written is really fascinating regarding, you said, the neoliberal consensus is coming apart. So we want to talk about that. But one of our listeners said, ask him about your article about the CDD planning to put people in camps.
SPEAKER 06 :
So tell us a little bit about that. Well, I found this document that was released, I think, July 23, 2020, in which the CDC had a clear program to create quarantine camps all over the country in public schools and community centers. And in these camps, people would be separated, isolated, isolated. And they’ve chosen for those camps based on age, vulnerability to COVID, and that sort of thing. It’s really a grim document. And I laid it all out. And, of course, the document’s no longer on the CDC website. But you can find it based on archival links. And I just wrote, you know, any agency that would propose something like this really – has such a deep pathology about it that it really needs to just go.
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So that might be a place that we could certainly that Trump could do some cutting would be in the CDC. Just a couple of other things. One of our listeners said that glad that we brought up and that you brought up inflation says the inflation target should be zero. We need stable money and that they have been cooking the books on jobs and inflation. So great points on all that. Jeffrey Tucker.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, they have. And this is why I think it’s going to be crucial for Trump’s team to say sooner rather than later that we are in an inflationary recession. That’s what you’ve been lied to now for several years. Just lay it out and in a kind of a funny way, maybe lower people’s expectations about it. about the future, mainly we’ve got to get a greater perception of where we are. Now, these kind of announcements aren’t going to shock anybody. It’s just the shocking part is that people are going to admit it. It’s like a lot these days. People know things that are never admitted, right? So a little bit of truth and honesty from the incoming Trump administration could be very helpful in preparing and setting up expectations for what’s achievable after the inauguration. We do need to come to terms with just how bad things are right now. People are very hopeful that we can grow our way out of this, but we also need some truth about the economic data and admit there has been no net full-time job creation among native-born workers for many years in this country. We’ve probably lost 40% of the dollar’s value over four years, which is like getting a huge tax increase or just a huge salary reduction. You know, however you want to look at it, it’s really bad. And we just need some truth about that. We have not had economic growth, real economic growth in this country of any substantial sort since the spring of 2020. And I don’t expect Trump to admit that, but they can talk about the reality of The recession that set in, clear recession that set in starting the first two quarters of 2022 and has not gone away. So, yeah, I think a little truth about that. And if they have any doubt about that, we, Brownstone, published a study laying out all the sources of data to prove that that’s true.
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And welcome back to the Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That’s Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter and you can email me at Kim at Kim Munson dot com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We’re an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something’s a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. Do check out the Center for American Values, which is located in Pueblo, Colorado. Pueblo is known as the home of heroes because there are four Medal of Honor recipients that grew up in Pueblo, Colorado, and they’re just doing amazing work there at the Center for American Values. It’s nonpolitical and it’s nonpartisan, but focusing on these values of America, of honor, integrity, and patriotism during the holiday season, I’d recommend that you take a trip down to Pueblo. There’s great restaurants there. And check out the Center for American Values. On the line with me is Jeffrey Tucker. He is the founder of the Brownstone Institute. And also he is a senior economics writer at the Epoch Times. But he’s written an important piece, The Neoliberal Consensus is Coming Apart. And this is really a deep piece, I would say. Jeffrey Tucker, how would you like to introduce people to it?
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, what I mean by the neoliberal consensus is the world that was hammered into place after World War II by top diplomats and intellectuals in the United States and Europe. to have this aspiration of a global free trade world where tariffs were as low as possible and where barriers to goods and services crossing countries was as low as possible. And we had something like a unified currency. And that went well, I would say, from 1944 all the way up to 1978. One, when the monetary system completely collapsed. In any case, the goal of global free trade didn’t go away with that. It just intensified, and tariffs fell further and further and further. And then once the East Bloc and Soviet Union kind of fell apart, they were integrated into it, and then China joined the World Health Organization, and the globalism presented itself. to the world as some kind of utopia, except that there were a number of problems. I mean, one is that it interfered, you know, along with the global free trade came globalist institutions like the World Health Organization, the UN. There’s no constituency at all for these organizations and no way to control them through any kind of plebiscite. And there came to be a really strong national-based pushback. You know, what about our sovereignty? What about our choices as people? And from the U.S. point of view, the glaring reality that’s been revealing itself ever more aggressively over 40 years is that so long as the U.S. maintains the dominant position as a well-deserved currency, it’s going to going to be an economy that imports from abroad. And there’s just nothing shocking about this. This is always going to be the case. If you’re the dominant, strongest currency in the world, that means that everybody else can sell you goods cheaply that are produced in any other currency. And that means the entire planet Earth’s our trade. That’s just got worse and worse, and we lost money. Dozens of industries that used to be completely American-dominated, along with the infrastructure, the skills, the supply chains, and the high-paying jobs that went with that. So Trump represents in many ways a revolt against this tendency. And so he took apart this – he started taking apart the neoliberal order after – the second year of his first term, with strange tariff increases against China, against every country, really, with whom the U.S. was running trade deficits. And the whole thing began to unravel. I would say that part of the opportunism of the COVID years was the sort of, for lack of a better term, globalist elite in revolt against, in a pushback against, the rise of the new nationalism, and they took out Bolsonaro in Brazil and Johnson in the UK and then Trump in the U.S. But this election that just happened last week recodifies nationalism versus globalism as a central organizing idea of the post- liberal world. And so, you know, essentially, we’re watching 75 years of world history just going into having been shut down and entering into a new era. And I don’t think, you know, that a good thing is a bad thing. I think you have to speak very carefully about it. It represents some threats and some opportunities, both.
SPEAKER 19 :
So you mentioned these like the World Health Organization, the UN, that there’s not really a constituency, but yet we saw through COVID how they were trying to come together to really control those in Western culture, our lives. And also, it seems that these globalists, that they really want to take down Western culture, in particular, the United States. So this sovereignty that people seem to reclaim, vote for with Trump is super important. So we’re at an amazing time in history, Jeffrey Tucker.
SPEAKER 06 :
Well, the whole point of the democratic experiment that began in the Enlightenment period and really kind of culminated in the 18th and 19th century is to give people a greater degree of influence and control over the regime under which they live. That’s the whole point, to grant citizenship rights as broadly as possible to the natives who live there and let them vote for representatives who go to the halls of government to hammer out policies that are consistent with people’s happiness and well-being. That becomes impossible under global rules, under global institutions. Nobody can control the World Health Organization, the UN, the IMF, and so on. And there’s a great deal of resentment about that. Essentially, globalism is incompatible with democracy because we don’t have – anything like a world plebiscite, you know? It doesn’t make any sense. And we cannot have that, and we will never have that. So if people want to control, you know, have some influence over the regime, which the theory of democracy is that they should, we’re going to have to dismantle these globalist institutions. And that’s necessarily going to be true. That means a new kind of nationalism. The subject of nationalism… is a difficult one because in various periods of history it’s been tremendously threatening and other times it’s been tremendously emancipating. After World War I it was emancipating, but then as we got to later in the interwar period it became very menacing, obviously, in Spain and Germany and Italy and so on. You could say that that kind of nationalism is gravely threatening in places of China right now. But for a large part of the world right now, nationalism represents a kind of emancipatory force against these global institutions that have been controlling our lives. as you say, particularly during the COVID period, because the World Health Organization imposed policies on the entire planet. I mean, it’s very strange. They had the same policies in Spain that the U.S. had, you know. And that’s just, we just can’t work that way. So the striking political dynamics of our time really surround the uses of the democratic spirit, to regain national sovereignty as a means by which we can regain our freedom. So I would say the revolution is here, and it’s up to the new governments that are going to be born. We’re seeing it right now in the U.S., but we’re going to see it all over Europe. It’s going to be true in Canada and all over Latin America and so forth.
SPEAKER 19 :
Wow. Jeffrey Tucker, so exciting. And thank you for joining us. And again, check out the Brownstone Institute. And also you can see or you can read his pieces at the Epoch Times. And Henry Ford said this. He said, whether you believe you can or not, you’re right. So my friends today, be grateful. Read great books. Think good thoughts. Listen to beautiful music. Communicate and listen well. Live honestly and authentically. Strive for high ideals and like Superman, stand for truth, justice and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you. God bless America. Stay tuned for our number two.
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And again, it’s spelled D-I-L-A-T-O-R-Y. Quote of the day is from Henry Ford, who was born in 1863, died in 1947. He was an American industrialist, business magnate, and founder of the Ford Motor Company. And he says, you can’t build a reputation on what you are going to do. And you need to do it. You need to take action. And we’re seeing a lot of that happening right now. We need to take action in our own lives. And when we talk about local government, the most local of all government is us. And that’s where this needs to start. And so be informed. I appreciate all of you recommending the Kim Munson Show to friends and family as well. And one of our sponsors, Lauren Levy, I will be starting my seventh year of solo broadcasting at the beginning of 2025, which is hard to believe. And you came on right about that time. We’ve been working together for close to seven years, haven’t we?
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, I trust your word. It seems that’s been that long.
SPEAKER 19 :
Gosh, it seems like it was just yesterday, but we’ve gone through so much with interest rates being held artificially low and then the very quick run-up on interest rates. And you know everything regarding mortgages, and your work can help people in 49 of the 50 states, just not New York. With the Trump presidency now, last week interest rates spiked a little bit. Where are they at now? What’s your crystal ball telling us?
SPEAKER 12 :
So without the crystal ball, the truth is they’ve gone up a little further. They’ve gone probably closer to the, you know, they’re in the upper sixes now, which does kind of be expected, honestly, because there’s a couple of things in play. Number one, part of Trump’s platform is tariffs. And people are a little nervous that if they put tariffs on it could drive prices up. That’s number one. But number two is really what’s happening with the stock market since he’s been elected. People are making money in the market. Their 401ks are going up. It’s on excitement about the economy that will come with him being president. And with that, people are moving out of bonds and into riskier assets like stocks. And when that happens, it’s natural that the price of bonds decreases. goes down, the yield goes up, which is the same as mortgages. And so that’s what we’re seeing. Mortgages are just in their core bonds. And so all bonds have kind of had their yields go up. And that’s what happens when people, instead of looking for safety, take more riskier assets on. And that’s okay. It happens. It’s more of a natural thing, a normal thing, rather than anything that’s being held down or inflated by anybody else. So We’ll see. We’ll see if the Fed cuts again in December or not. But things are running as expected right now. And so the other thing that comes with that is people are more inclined to be comfortable in their job or think the economy is doing well, which will lead to more buyers and sellers and more activity. So even though rates are a little higher, there’s more activity. I just had a client I was bidding on a home yesterday and came in second by a good margin. Someone outbid them. So that means we’re We’re maybe heading back in that direction of some bidding. And so the market for housing is fine. And so like we always say, if you find a house you like, get on it. We’ll make sure you can afford it. And then we’ll worry about the mortgage rate when we can lower it down the road.
SPEAKER 19 :
And so and that that should happen. It’s hard to say regarding the economy. We had Jeffrey Tucker on in the first hour and he he said the word that I think deep down we all knew this, but we are in a recession right now. And but also, you know, years ago I was in the investment business. There’s always opportunity, and I think sometimes when it kind of is really nerve-wracking to try to make a move, many times that can be a time of great opportunity, Lorne.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, well, it’s like anything in any stock or any asset. People always say when everyone’s buying something, that’s the time you want to sell it. And when you’re one of the first ones into something and no one’s talking about it, that’s when you want to buy it. And it seems to be that way with a lot of things. But, you know, like you and I have said over the years, if you want to move or you have a need to move and you want to buy a home and you can afford that payment because you’ve been pre-qualified. And, you know, whenever I pre-qualify someone, it’s at a higher rate than today’s rate because we just don’t know how long it’ll take them to find a house. So we go worst case scenario and use a little bit of a higher rate to make sure they can handle it. And then they find a house, buy it, get into it, and then we’ll fix that whole marry the house, date the rate thing we talked about through the years. And we can always reduce the rate through a refinance down the road.
SPEAKER 19 :
Does it cost a lot to do a refinance?
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It has cost for sure, but what I try to do for my clients, number one, for yours, your customers, I always pay for the appraisal, so that takes a big cost away. But number two, whenever possible, we try to cover whatever cost we can the second time around if it’s within a reasonable timeframe, you know, six months to two years. And so we try to help folks as much as possible and not have to incur all the costs over again. which really helps, you know, when you’re looking at getting a refinance for not that much of an expense, it’s absolutely worth it then.
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Boy, that makes a lot of sense. So, Lorne Levy, I know that you watch these interest rates as well with your clients, and it’s so important. So how can people reach you, Lorne Levy?
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The easiest way is just always just call 303-880-8881. If we don’t answer, just leave a message. We’ll get back to you as soon as possible. But, yeah, just give a call.
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Okay. And that’s Lauren Levy. And I think you and Karen are going to be in next week. So I’ll be looking forward to that.
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Terrific. Me too.
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And welcome back to the Kim Munson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at Kim Munson dot com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We’re an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something’s a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. It is Wednesday, so that means it’s a Trent Luce Wednesday. You know him. He’s a sixth generation farmer and rancher. and standing up for the people that feed and fuel us. And as Jenny has said, we need to stand for food, fiber, and freedom. And I guess we should, food, fiber, fuel, and freedom. How about that, Trent Luce?
SPEAKER 10 :
I think that’s perfect. I was going to add an F to that scenario.
SPEAKER 19 :
Did I get all the Fs, or did you have another one?
SPEAKER 10 :
Oh, no, you nailed it. You left fuel out initially, and we’ve got to get fuel in there.
SPEAKER 19 :
And freedom.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, because food and fuel equal freedom and a domestic supply. You have to have a domestic supply of food and fuel in order to maintain a free future.
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And boy, that has been under attack by globalists. It’s been under attack by the Biden-Harris administration. And I’m hoping that we’ll take the shackles off of our food and fuel production. But Trent, as I saw this headline yesterday, I thought, oh, boy. We’ve got to talk about this. I’ve been watching these proposed appointments to Trump’s cabinet, and I really like many of them. But the one with Kristi Noem yesterday, I thought, oh, boy, we’ve got to talk about that. Kristi Noem is the governor of South Dakota, and it looks like she’s going to be tapped to head the Department of Homeland Security, right? So what do you think about that?
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Well, the people of South Dakota are elated.
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Okay. Because she’s leaving. Yeah.
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So set this up again. Last week, there was the election, and there was that ballot question regarding property rights and CO2 pipelines, right? So refresh my memory. What happened exactly with that?
SPEAKER 10 :
So in South Dakota, there were seven ballot initiatives. There was one yes, and the rest were no. And this is exactly what my circle of people wanted. It was just a perfect outcome. But I want to go back to the primary. South Dakota has been the prototype for getting power back to the people for the entire election cycle, including the primary. The RL21, which is what you’re alluding to, which is Referred Law 21, was a direct result of people getting out and getting a petition signed when they needed 17,000 signatures to get this law, Senate Bill 201, as a referred law, which I know that you have this in Colorado, many states do, where if something passes and it’s signed by the governor, it is set to go into law in South Dakota July 1. But if the people get enough signatures and can submit the signatures in basically opposition of a said law, then it goes to the ballot measures, goes on the general election ballot. And that’s exactly what happened in South Dakota on Senate Bill 201. Senate Bill 201 would have removed local control on CO2 pipelines. The county, the township would have zero say in what was taking place with setbacks, with the kill zone. anything involving CO2 pipelines. And what really irritated the people of South Dakota was that as this law was making its way through the House and the Senate, and when Christie signed it, she called it the People’s Land Rights Bill, the Bill of Rights for the Landowners. And for those individuals who looked at what the language actually said in Senate Bill 201, it removed almost every single landowner right. And so for her to blatantly call it the Landowner Bill of Rights was just a slap in the face to all of the people who two years prior campaigned as her number one mission, her number one agenda item as being reelected as governor was to preserve property rights for the landowners of South Dakota. And this was a blatant mistake. slap in the face to what she had made as a campaign promise. So the people of South Dakota were irritated. They eliminated 13 rhinos, if you want to call them that, people who were working with Governor Kristi Noem in the 2024 legislative session. They primaried people out, 13 of them. Thirteen Republicans were primaried out by 13 newcomers. Then they got together and generated this referred law, 21, with, as I repeat, 38,000 signatures when they only needed 17. And then the opposition, which is corporate interest outside of South Dakota and some inside of South Dakota, spent $5 million trying to win RL21, get a yes vote. Instead, we had a resounding… 67% no vote against the RINOs, against Kristi Noem. And then the few remaining in the general election that we needed to get rid of, we did. And it was like when Kristi gets dubbed to be the next Secretary of Homeland Security, the people in South Dakota said, job well done. We got rid of all the people who took on Our ability to maintain property rights is first and foremost agenda in South Dakota. So this is like the creme de la creme of the South Dakota year and how their motto, the state motto, is under God, the people rule. And I got to tell you, Kim, the people are ruling, and it should set the example for every other state.
SPEAKER 19 :
Well, and that is really exciting. Now, one thing, we also have what you called a referred law. And that can happen in Colorado. But what we see is the use and abuse of what’s called the safety clause here in Colorado. And if they put this safety clause on a piece of legislation, and the safety clause is supposed to be there if there’s something really dire that is happening that a law needs to go in immediately. So we’ve got that as a protection, but they’re using it and abusing it and putting it on different pieces of legislation. And when they do, we cannot do what you just did with this RL 21. We cannot try to get that onto the ballot for people to for the people of Colorado to review that. So we’ve got so much work to do. in Colorado. Colorado stands out in this last election. Brandon Wark over at Free State Colorado said that Colorado was one of two states that actually seemed to move bluer. And so we’ve got a lot of work to do, although we had some good news, and that is as We now have eight House of Representatives seats, and we’re split 4-4, Democrat and Republican. Gabe Evans won a nail-biter. He’s the Republican in CD8. So we’ve got some good things that are happening, but I’m seeing headlines coming through that I think that Jared Polis might start to use some lawfare regarding the people of Colorado. And so we’ve got a lot, a lot of work to do out here. And don’t give up on us, Trent Luce, because we did at least protect the National Western by voting down the fur ban. And then also, you kind of corrected me last week as I was just talking about the Superior Farm land processing ban, but it really would have been a ban on meat processing. in Denver, and then the activists would want to push that out. So we had some good things, but don’t give up on us out here, Trent. Please help us.
SPEAKER 10 :
So two things. I want to get back to that. But before we do, South Dakota also has what you call the safety clause. It’s called the emergency clause in South Dakota. And they were one vote short of When that election or when that passing of Senate Bill 201 took place, they were one vote short of getting it as an emergency clause, which would have put it into effect immediately. So they tried the same approach, but it didn’t work. The other thing about South Dakota that I want to make very clear, all of the people that have been displaced this year that we needed to get that were fighting this maintaining property rights had an R behind their name. They’re not D’s. They’re R’s.
SPEAKER 19 :
Well, and as you know, I’m president of the Colorado Union of Taxpayers, and so that means I’m watching all of this legislation to put that out to the team, the cut board to, again, all volunteers, to take a look at it. And there are times… Trent, where I see bipartisan sponsors on some of these bills. And I’m thinking, oh, please keep your name off of that. And I think sometimes these legislators don’t understand that. And it’s been a time thing for us to try to interact with these legislators to really explain. And one of those was on conservation easements this last time around. And so we’ve got a really… to encourage these Republicans to stand for these Republican ideals of property rights and freedom and sanctity of the individual. So we’ve got so much work to do out here.
SPEAKER 10 :
They have an R behind their name, but they’re not Republican in principle.
SPEAKER 19 :
I know. And so lots of work to do. Let’s go to break. I’m talking with Trent Luce. And of course, a lot is happening in South Dakota. And you probably see people from Colorado moving to South Dakota as as we learn more and more about this. But the show comes to you because of our great sponsors. One of those is Lavaca Meat Company and cannot believe that we’re. The holidays are right around the corner. But what a great gift for friends, family, your employees would be a great gift box from Lavaca Meat Company. So reach out to them and see what they have there. And you can get a lot of your Christmas shopping done immediately.
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SPEAKER 19 :
And welcome back to The Kim Munson Show. Check out our website. That is Kim Munson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. Sign up for a weekly email newsletter and you can email me at Kim at Kim Munson dot com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We’re an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something’s a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And do check out the USMC Memorial Foundation’s website. And another great Christmas gift would be to buy a brick that will be on one of their pathways of service to honor your loved one’s military service. And you’ll receive a beautiful certificate on that. It’s a lovely, lovely gift. So do check all that out at the USMC Memorial Foundation. November, if you buy it this month, there is a donor who will be matching that particular purchase. So be sure and check out usmcmemorialfoundation.org. I’m talking with Trent Luce, who stands for the people that… feed and fuel us and create fiber and freedom. Thank you, Jenny, for putting that together. But Trent Luce, we’ve got a little bit of a surprise. And that is, is producer Steve is out of retirement right now. He’s going to be doing something special for the Crawford team, but he’s behind the mic. Producer Steve, welcome.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, thank you. It’s nice to be back. And it’s a dangerous place behind the mic.
SPEAKER 19 :
Well, that it is. When I threw it over to Joe earlier, apparently the two of you were chatting. And so and I have this great situation I can broadcast from home and I’m doing that right now. But I’m going to come in because you’re going to be making the famous producer Steve pancakes today.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yes, we’re doing blueberry and banana. And, you know, it’s just it’s a nice way to keep everybody together. And it’s just fun to do.
SPEAKER 19 :
Well, and Trent, it’s hard to believe that producer Steve, he retired well over a year ago. It’s hard to believe.
SPEAKER 03 :
14 months. And I said, you know, I just said the joke. If I’ve been retired for 14 months, that means you’ve been doing this for 14 months. And his eyes kind of rolled back in his head.
SPEAKER 19 :
Definitely.
SPEAKER 03 :
But I would say this. I’m so glad to run into Trent today, because in the years that we worked together, I compiled a list of my favorites, and Trent quickly worked his way up to the top.
SPEAKER 10 :
Oh, thank you, Steve. I was saying I wish I would have had an invitation. I could have brought some loose bacon and we would enjoy those blueberry pancakes and some bacon.
SPEAKER 03 :
OK, next time we’ll we’ll get you in the loop.
SPEAKER 10 :
January would be a good time, Steve. We’re going to do this in January.
SPEAKER 03 :
All right. All right. I’ll pass that to the office manager. She’s the one who sets us up.
SPEAKER 19 :
Okay. Well, that’s it. And we’ve got the National Western. So, Steve, I know that you need to get back and get those pancakes going. And I know that it’s a great morale booster for everybody. So thank you, Producer Steve.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, you’re quite welcome. Thank you.
SPEAKER 19 :
And Kurt Gerwitz says, yay, Producer Steve. Hello. So coming in on the text line. Okay. So, Kristi Noem, this is the next thing, Trent. I was thinking about… the work that you, I think you’re going to be focusing on reducing property taxes, and then we’ve got to fight these CO2 pipelines. Bobby Kennedy, RFK Jr., had a video out regarding these CO2 pipelines. So that is something I think that he’s going to be working on as well. And I know you guys have a have a relationship, we’ll just put it that way. You’ve been on different sides of the aisle and then on the same side. So have you taken a look at any of the stuff that he’s talking about regarding CO2 pipelines?
SPEAKER 10 :
Why do you think he made it, Kim?
SPEAKER 19 :
That was you?
SPEAKER 10 :
Well, I put a spur in his rib and told him it was time to get it done. And I was asking him to focus on South Dakota because we had RL-21 coming, and he geared it towards Iowa, which is fine because the premise is the same. But I’ve got to be honest, I’m greatly concerned that he will be weeded out of the scenario before January.
SPEAKER 19 :
Why do you say that?
SPEAKER 10 :
I’ll go with my gut intuition. Boy, I hope that’s not the case because – I really hope that’s not the case because – You know how interesting it is to me that here we have a majority of conservatives in America that have more hope in a Kennedy, Robert F. Kennedy Jr., than anybody else on the political scene. I find that a fascinating transformation in the 25 years I’ve known him.
SPEAKER 19 :
Well, after we go through COVID, though, and also these vaccine mandates for our kids, I really, this Make America Healthy Again, I really can get behind that. I think it’s super important.
SPEAKER 10 :
I agree. But to show how much influence he currently has, you have Susan Wiles, who was tabbed to be the chief of staff. that everything she has lobbied for as a lobbyist in her career flies in the face of what Bobby Kennedy stands for. She’s lobbied for all the vaccination makers. She’s lobbied for Kellogg’s and Kraft Heinz. She’s lobbied for Tesla. She’s lobbied for so many things that are absolutely opposed to everything that Bobby Kennedy has been for as long as I’ve known him.
SPEAKER 17 :
Wow.
SPEAKER 19 :
OK, well, I’ve got to ruminate on that. I know I looked at her resume and yes, she had worked as a lobbyist. Yeah.
SPEAKER 10 :
OK. The client base that she worked for is all about the one world order and the global control. And again, I just repeat everything that Bobby has been campaigning against. And that was Trump’s first nomination. And I’d been hearing through Bobby’s people that they were a little concerned about how much influence he was going to actually have, and then the first announcement came out, and I’m like, well, I guess I see it happening.
SPEAKER 19 :
Okay, well, I think that we need to pressure and make sure that he can do this work, because that video, I didn’t get to watch all of it, regarding the CO2 pipeline was so important.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, and I remember it was the Iowa State Fair, August 2023. that we first sat down with him and explained the CO2 pipeline. And he got it right away. And he was clear to understand the challenges that come along with that. And so it didn’t take any nudging. It just required us to get him the information. And I had him on the air two times after that. And he’s been a champion for standing up against the CO2 pipeline. He’s always been a champion for the small farmer and domestic food production. How we get there, he and I would not agree all the time. But I’m greatly concerned that his influence is going to wane by the day.
SPEAKER 19 :
Okay, well, we’re going to have to— I think he was used.
SPEAKER 10 :
I think he was used, Kim.
SPEAKER 19 :
Well, okay. I hope that is not the case, and we will find out. We will certainly find out. And if that’s—okay, well, I’m going to leave that out there.
SPEAKER 10 :
I do want to go back to where you started. I think, and now I have four examples of election results that we would not have anticipated, and three of those are in Colorado. And we talked about them last week, and you mentioned them earlier. But I got to give a major shout out. In fact, I wrote my column this week for the High Plains Journal, and you can find that on my sub stack, about how significant it is that Denver, the city of Denver, said no to 308 and 309. The fur and animal leather ban and the meat processing, which is local food supply in the city limits of Denver, and then obviously the predators, the predator that we said no to banning, hunting of mountain lions, bobcats, and lynx. Those are not just good little things. To me, you know what that is? I think that there is this, and you’ve been leading the charge on this. I give you 100% credit for this. There is a significant number of people in Colorado and Denver, obviously, that are tired of the status quo, that are tired of being told, you need to do this because it’s for the greater good. And they’re not being fooled anymore. And while we do see there were some horrible things that happened in Colorado with the election, I know that. But I see more glimmers of hope in Colorado than I’ve seen in paying attention closely for the last 15 years. And the other one was not in Colorado, but it’s in California. Sonoma County, California, had Measure J on the ballot. And Measure J virtually would have ended animal agriculture in a great animal agricultural county. I’ve spent a lot of time in Sonoma County. And the animal rights organization, the sister, basically, to what happened in Denver, sister organization, wanted to change the CAFO structure. And if you had a horse in a stable… for I believe it was six weeks in the course of a year, you would be considered a CAFO, a concentrated animal feeding operation, and you would have to be permitted, and you couldn’t be permitted, and it would have virtually eliminated anything, including the ownership of horses. And the Sonoma County residents said, no, we’re not going to go along with this. And as much time as I’ve spent in California fighting the animal rights community back to before 2008, but really hard in 2008, this is the first glimmer of hope I’ve seen And so I’m putting what happened in Colorado and what happened in Sonoma County as the first step in understanding that our domestic supply of food and fuel is eroding, and we’re not going to stand by and let it happen anymore. And there’s a voice out there that has been looking for somebody to come along and say, we want to work with you. And that’s exactly what the Kim Munson Show and I want to be a part of going forward is to say, What really matters is that we have a free future, and it only happens if we have a domestic supply of food and fuel. And that came loud and clear.
SPEAKER 19 :
Well, it is really exciting. And yes, I thank you, Trent, because we’re an independent voice. And it is pretty amazing. The other thing was that rank choice voting, jungle primary and rank choice voting went down as well. And I was shocked that it did because $15 million came in to try to get the people of Colorado to vote for that. And I was pretty shocked that that went down. I am troubled that the excise tax on firearms and ammunition was passed by the people of Colorado. We have much more work to do regarding our Second Amendment that these radical activists, progressives have tried to make it look like firearms are scary. And we need to educate on that. So we will continue to do that as well, Trent Luce.
SPEAKER 10 :
I’ll be right there alongside.
SPEAKER 19 :
Okay. Now, before we go to break, I don’t want this to go to your head, but another one of our listeners said Trent is my favorite guest. So don’t let that go to your head, though, okay?
SPEAKER 10 :
I didn’t even hear it, but thank you.
SPEAKER 19 :
Okay, so let’s go to break and continue the discussion. We will take calls, 303-477-5600. The text line is 720-605-0647. Before we do that, though, Sondra had this question. Regarding Kristi Noem, how will they replace her if she goes to Homeland Security?
SPEAKER 10 :
Great question. Do we have time to go into it? It’s kind of a story.
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SPEAKER 17 :
Aw, thanks.
SPEAKER 19 :
Isn’t that great? That’s awesome. And Trent Luce is on the line. And there’s some other people that have – you must be paying people out here in Colorado. They said that you’re their favorite guest.
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SPEAKER 19 :
So with that question on the table from Sandra is what will happen if Kristi Noem becomes head of the Homeland Security for her last two years as South Dakota governor? And you said there’s a story to that.
SPEAKER 10 :
So it’s created quite a quandary within the state, and it’s almost like a chess game because of the timing. The South Dakota legislative session occurs basically January 1 through March 10. If Kristi Noem steps down prior to the legislative session, Larry Roden will take over as lieutenant governor. He’s going to take over either way as lieutenant governor. The quandary comes in, as I mentioned, the rhinos, that’s just what I’m blankly calling them, that were taken out of the South Dakota House and Senate or part of the Christie-Noem team, so to speak, there are still six of them left. And so it’s anticipated that Larry Roden would pick one of them to be his lieutenant governor, but needs to be approved by the sitting Senate. So the strategy is, will Larry Roden, will Christie step down prior to the new new Senate and House coming in with the legislative session, which would mean that the old legislative body approves the lieutenant governor. But if she doesn’t do it and if he doesn’t do it before the new sitting body comes in, there is no way one of their picks will be confirmed as lieutenant governor. So it’s a major chess game that has taken place. And that, to me, is going to be the most exciting thing to see how that all plans out.
SPEAKER 19 :
Okay, so let’s think about this then. So Trump has tapped her as potential head of Homeland Security. So that would be a cabinet appointment, right? Correct. So she would, in essence, have to be confirmed, but he’s asked for recess appointments, but that won’t happen until the new— Congress convenes or will write, right?
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay. You’re right in all of that, but hopefully I didn’t confuse you. I’m talking about the confirmation of the lieutenant governor if Christie leaves. So the lieutenant governor is going to step up and be the governor. Then he’s going to appoint somebody, but that appointment has to be confirmed also within the state. Okay.
SPEAKER 19 :
But on the national level, I’m just trying to think what she’s going to do. Would she want to wait until she was sure that she was going to be Homeland Security Secretary before she would resign just in case something weird happened? So if that happened and she waited, then that would put that appointment into the new South Dakota state legislature.
SPEAKER 10 :
The new South Dakota legislative session, which is not in her benefit. See why this is such a fun chess game?
SPEAKER 17 :
Oh, yeah, most definitely. Okay. Okay, okay.
SPEAKER 10 :
Literally, I mean, it’s possible. It’s not likely. But it’s possible that the legislative session would start and end because it ends March 10th. It could end before she’s confirmed.
SPEAKER 19 :
Wait, wait, March 10th? Or what date?
SPEAKER 10 :
March 10th is the last day of South Dakota legislative session.
SPEAKER 19 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 17 :
Boy, there’s a short.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, it is short. But each year, it’s March 10th is the last day.
SPEAKER 17 :
Okay. Okay.
SPEAKER 10 :
And North Dakota, for the record, which is just unique in today’s world, is every other year. So they only screw things up every other year instead of every year.
SPEAKER 19 :
In Colorado, there’s rumblings that they want to extend our legislative session. I don’t think we could survive that.
SPEAKER 10 :
I think Colorado should go to every five years.
SPEAKER 17 :
I think so, too.
SPEAKER 10 :
Once every five years.
SPEAKER 19 :
So, OK, next question. And you know this and this is a good question. With Trump tapping all of these different senators and congressmen and women for his cabinet, can they have dual roles? Can they be in Congress and also in his cabinet? That seems like that would be a bit of a conflict of interest. Do you know the answer to that?
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, that’s not possible.
SPEAKER 19 :
Okay. And then this question, she said, is Trent saying that Kristi Noem has World Economic Forum leanings? I think you are.
SPEAKER 10 :
Absolutely, she does.
SPEAKER 19 :
Huh. Okay, that’s Kristi Noem.
SPEAKER 10 :
Okay. In fact, a friend of mine in California found her profile yesterday on the World Economic Forum’s website.
SPEAKER 17 :
Oh, boy. Oh, boy.
SPEAKER 19 :
OK, so let’s talk a little bit about then John Thune from South Dakota, because apparently there’s going to be a secret vote, I think, today on the new Senate leader and that he’s a McConnell guy. He’s a McConnell surrogate. And well, and our word of the day is dilatory, that he might be dilatory, try to slow down Trump’s agenda. So what’s your thoughts about John Thune?
SPEAKER 10 :
Kelly and I lived in South Dakota from 1998 until 2002. John Thune was first elected to the U.S. Senate in that period of time, and it is just another glaring example of how term limits need to be put into place because John Thune has abandoned the people that put him there. He continues to be a rhino, and I don’t have a lot of respect for John Thune anymore, which I once did. Because he started with pure intentions, and this seems to be the problem. There’s something about crossing that Potomac River, Kim, and I don’t know if it’s an injection or they have something in the water, but people just start focusing on what’s beneficial for their own war chest instead of what the people who put them there.
SPEAKER 19 :
Well, this is going to be super important on this. Again, this is another chess game. Okay. So I’ve just got to think about this whole thing with John Thune and the McConnell surrogate, because the people of America have said, we want our country back. We want our freedom back. We want this idea of America back, that all men are created equal with these rights of God, of life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness. And so we’ve got to really watch what’s happening here. We’ve only got a few more minutes left. And Trent Luce, I think you and I are rededicating ourselves. to lowering property taxes, and also to fighting the CO2 pipelines, and, as you say, to make sure that we have our food and our fuel and our freedom, all those things here. And as Ginny had said, food, fuel, fiber, and freedom. I love that. But I’m dedicated to lots of things, but those two things are really pretty close to top on my list, and I think yours as well. Right, Trent? Yes.
SPEAKER 10 :
Absolutely, and I want to include, which is a big part of Colorado in this, the NITC, that North American transmission line on steroids that we don’t need. And I got another call yesterday from Barton County, Kansas. They’re talking about a five-mile-wide easement there and 18 miles wide in parts of Oklahoma and 60 miles wide parts of eastern plains of Oklahoma – excuse me, Colorado – Every time I turn around, Kim, what you alluded to is a top priority and what I agree with 100%. It’s a land grab. We must stop the land grabs.
SPEAKER 19 :
And I would recommend that people check out Our American Lands, which is the work of Josh Lowenstein over in Monta Vista, Colorado. And there’s rumblings that Trump is going to be moving the Bureau of Land Management back out possibly to the west. Are you hearing anything along that line, Trent Luce?
SPEAKER 10 :
I would like him to move it to the ocean and dismantle it and leave it go.
SPEAKER 19 :
You really want to really send that off to the West here. So, okay, one other thing. Oh, you can probably answer this. Another question from a listener. Susie Wiles, does she have World Economic Forum leanings? That’s, again, from a listener.
SPEAKER 10 :
All over her. All over her. You go look at who she’s worked with, who she’s lobbied for. what her past has truly been. Despite being the daughter of Pat Summerall and lobbying for Major League Baseball, it appears that she’s all about the one world order.
SPEAKER 19 :
Okay, well, we’ve got a lot of work to do. And when we say the government is local, it begins with us. And so we must be active on all this. One other thing, and I just throw this out, and then we hardly have any other time, but Trent, and maybe we talk about this next week, and that is term limits. We have a responsibility as citizens to institute the term limits that we’re supposed to have, and that is at the ballot box. And when Colorado moved to term limits, the state moved more and more blue. And so maybe we keep that out there next week and talk about term limits, because I still think that it should be at the ballot box instead of some kind of a law. You’ve got one minute.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, I no longer agree with that because we can’t trust the ballot box. We’ve got to fix election integrity first. I just want to, on the heels of Veterans Day, and we talked a bit about this with the Marine birthday, I had a fantastic week visiting with as many veterans as possible and a major shout out because we would not be having this conversation. We wouldn’t have a chance for the free future if it had not been for the dedication of the men and women for 249 years in the United States military. I say thank you.
SPEAKER 19 :
I say thank you as well. And it is because of them that we have this freedom, this liberty. Liberty is the responsible exercise of freedom. And we have a responsibility to stand for what America stands for because there are those that gave their last full measure of devotion. That’s why I so support the USMC Memorial Foundation and the Center for American Values. Trent Luce, we’ll talk next week. And great points. So have a great week and we’ll talk then.
SPEAKER 09 :
Thanks, Kim. You do the same.
SPEAKER 19 :
And Henry Ford said this, whether you believe you can or not, you’re right. So today, be grateful, read great books, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals, and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you, and God bless America.
SPEAKER 05 :
Young, like a new moon rising Fierce, through the rain and lightning Wandering out into this great unknown And I don’t want no one to cry But tell them if I don’t survive I was born
SPEAKER 02 :
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