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Join us as we uncover historical gems and modern-day controversies in today’s Kim Munson Show. From the Battle of Cowpens’ legacy to the ongoing debate over private property rights, we cover a broad spectrum of topics. We address listener queries about SNAP benefits and the potential impact of banning junk foods from this program. With an array of guests, including experts and listeners, this episode is packed with informative discussions sure to captivate politics enthusiasts.
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I don’t think that we should be passing legislation that is so complicated that people kind of throw up their hands and say, I can’t understand that.
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And it’s not fair just because you’re a big business that you get a break on this and the little guy doesn’t.
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Is it freedom or is it force? Let’s have a conversation.
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indeed let’s have a conversation and welcome to the kim monson show thank you so much for joining us you’re each treasured you’re valued you have purpose today strive for excellence take care of your heart your soul your mind and your body my friends we were made for this moment in history and thank you to the team that’s producer joe luke rachel zach echo charlie mike theresa and all the people here at crawford broadcasting happy friday producer joe happy friday kim And we’ve got a really interesting show planned for you today, so fasten your seatbelts. We’ll talk with Brandon Wark in the first hour. He is the founder of Free State Colorado. Of course, Jim May, cattleman with Lavaca Meat Company in the second hour, as well as listener Sandra Lull, who has really put together a very interesting list of things that you should have put together in case you’re in case we lose our electricity or something happens. And she will be joining us to talk about that in the second hour. So really interesting stuff here. I want to say thank you to the Harris family for their gold sponsorship of the show. We are an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something’s a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. and we are an independent voice in doing so, and it’s because of all of our sponsors and all of the support that you all give us. But, my friends, it’s not compassionate to take other people’s stuff, whether or not it’s their rights, their property, freedom, livelihood, opportunities, or lives. Force can be a weapon, but it’s policy. We’re going to see this here in the Colorado State Legislature with legislation that they’re passing. So policy, unpredictable and excessive taxation, fear, coercion, government-induced inflation, the World Economic Forum’s agenda. the globalist elites agenda, all these are connected. The United Nations, the Colorado State Legislature, this Colorado governor, the World Health Organizations, land use codes, zoning regulations, force fees, conservation easements, national monument designations, and the list goes on and on and on. Because even if you think that you own your land, but you can’t do with your property what you want to do with your property, then clearly you do not have ownership of that property. It’s just a little different way. of controlling everything. And we’ve seen this on the local, county, and state level, national level, this assault upon our private property rights. And I think people are really waking up to that. We’ll talk about some of these things happening out in California regarding shedding light on all of these regulations that make it more difficult to… to build homes. And so we’ll talk about that here in just a little bit. But remember, if something’s a good idea, you should not have to use force to implement it. And the show comes to you Monday through Friday, 6 to 8 a.m. with the first hour. rebroadcast one to two in the afternoon, second hour, 10 to 11 at night. And that is on all KLZ 560 platforms, KLZ 560 AM, 100.7 FM, the KLZ website, the KLZ app. Shows are posted on my website, typically within the next day with a summary as well as the podcast. And then you can listen to the podcast also, Spotify and iTunes. Be sure and check out the website. There’s a lot going on over there. That’s kimmonson.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter that goes out on Sundays. You’ll get first look at our upcoming guests as well as our most recent essays. We’ll be rolling out Pam Long’s essay regarding how to push back on legislation down at the State House. She had three great strategies on that. You can email me at kim at kimmonson.com. And again, thank you to all of you who support us. We do greatly appreciate that. Our word of the day is polemic. And it’s spelled P-O-L-E-M-I-C. And your challenge is to use it in a sentence today. And it could be a controversial argument, especially one refuting or attacking a specific opinion or doctrine. Number two definition, a person engaged in or inclined to controversy, argument or refutation. And number three, one who writes in support of one opinion, doctrine or system in opposition to another. One skilled in polemics is a controversialist, a disputant. And so our challenge is to use the word polemic. In a sentence today, that should be quite easy, because as we are engaging in conversations with others, I would say that we each can be polemic in that, be a polemic in that, because there is a lot of controversy that’s happening in our society. In our country right now, and we need to come together to unite. And what the thing that should unite us is this vision of the declaration that all men are created equal with these rights from God of life, liberty and pursuit of happiness. That should be a unifying doctrine, I would say. And we need to continue to remind each of us about this. It is Friday. So that means our quote of the day is from the Medal of Honor quote book from the Center for American Values. And I’d highly recommend that each of you have that on your in your home, in your freedom library. The Center for American Values is located in Pueblo on the beautiful Riverwalk. Pueblo is known as the home of heroes because there’s four Medal of Honor recipients that grew up there. And the Center does really important work in honoring and remembering Americans. our Medal of Honor recipients, and also they’re focused on honor, integrity, and patriotism. And these are great foundational values of which America was founded on. So what they’ve done, though, is they have portraits of valor of our Medal of Honor recipients, and it is really a reverent place to visit. And each time I go there, I’m very inspired. They are going to have an event this coming Thursday, the 23rd, regarding the USS Pueblo, which was taken captive by the North Koreans during the Vietnam War. And Robert Chica, who was a crew member on the USS Pueblo, will be presenting at their On Values event this coming Thursday, the 23rd. And Let them know if you plan on attending. It doesn’t cost anything, but that way they can plan accordingly. And this is his quote from the Medal of Honor quote book. And I wanted to give you his citation. He was born in 1944. He died in 2002. This is for actions that were taken on April 25, 1967. And this is his citation for his Medal of Honor. And then I’ll give you the quote. This is for conspicuous gallantry and intrepidity and action at the risk of his life above and beyond the call of duty. Sergeant Stump distinguished himself while serving as a squad leader of the 3rd Platoon Company C on a search and destroy mission. His company approached a village that accounted a North Vietnamese rifle company occupying a well-fortified bunker complex. During the initial contact, three men from his squad fell wounded in front of a hostile machine gun emplacement. The enemy’s heavy volume of fire prevented the unit from moving to the aid of the injured men, but… sergeant stump left his secure position in a deep trench and ran through the barrage of incoming rounds to reach his wounded comrades he picked up one of the men and carried him back to the safety of the trench twice more sergeant stump dashed forward while the enemy turned automatic weapons and machine guns upon him Yet he managed to rescue the remaining two wounded squad members. He then organized a squad and led an assault against several enemy bunkers from which continuously heavy fire was being received. He and his squad successfully eliminated two of the bunker positions, but one to the front of the advancing platoon remained a serious threat. Arming himself with extra grenades, Stumpf ran over open ground through a volley of fire directed at him by a determined enemy toward the machine gun position. As he reached the bunker, he threw a hand grenade through the aperture. It was immediately returned by the occupants, forcing Stumpf to take cover. Undaunted, he pulled the pins on two more grenades, held them for a few seconds after activation, then hurled them into the position, this time successfully destroying the emplacement. With the elimination of this key position, his unit was able to assault and overrun the enemy. Stump’s relentless spirit of aggressiveness, intrepidity, and ultimate concern for the lives of his men are in the highest traditions of the military service and reflect great credit upon himself and the US Army. This is what he said. He said, veterans have provided you with great opportunities. Set goals, believe in yourself, and let God be your point man. What great advice for us today. And he is absolutely right. We have the sky is the limit, really, on the opportunities that we have in front of us. And he says, set goals, believe in yourself, and let God be your point man. This day in history, a lot of different things happened. In the Revolutionary War, this was a very important battle. 1781, the Battle of Cowpens, American Revolutionary Forces led by Brigadier General Daniel Morgan, defeat the British under Lieutenant Colonel Bannestrade Tarleton in a decisive double envelopment near the town of Cowpens.
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It is Friday. It feels like a Monday for Producer Joe. Welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. And Producer Joe, you feel like you are wrestling a serpent here, correct? We are. We’re doing a new computer. What’s going on there?
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So our software is changing. And so what initially operates the initiation of like the spots and music and stuff like that, that’s changing over to a new program. So there’s always going to be technical difficulties with that big of a project.
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But you feel like I know that we had some challenges yesterday and you felt like that you had it totally under control. But there’s still gremlins in this whole thing, right?
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Yes, ma’am, there is, and I think there always will be.
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But we do strive for excellence, but with live radio, things do happen. And so we just wanted to keep you up to date on that. Not sure if we got the whole thing regarding the Battle of Cowpens, but it was a turning point in the American reconquest of South Carolina, and the American Revolutionary Forces, led by Brigadier General Daniel Morgan, defeat the British under Lieutenant Colonel Tarleton in a… decisive double envelopment near the town of Cowpensin. Tarleton was really brutal. I can’t remember now. Ben Martin can refresh my memory exactly what they called him. Something like bloody Tarleton or something like that. So this was a very important battle on this day in 1781. In 1821, Mexico permits Moses Austin and 300 U.S. families to settle in Texas. And after his death, his son Stephen leads a colony in Texas. And I did not know this. 1873, Modoc warriors defeat the United States Army in the first battle of the stronghold, a part of the Modoc War. And this was an armed conflict between the Modoc people in the United States and California and Oregon from 1872 to 1873. And I was not aware of that. So it’s always nice to learn something about this day in history. Now, a couple of things. I want to make sure that I did give you the website for the Center for American Values. That is AmericanValuesCenter.org. And again, they’re going to have an event on the 23rd, which should be most informative. It’s an on values presentation. But also I wanted to mention a climate conversation, which is the project of Walt Johnson. And back in the 70s and 80s, there was concern that the world was the earth was going to get too cold. And then – and certainly we’d like to have a little bit of global warming when we look at some of these temperatures over time. But then the narrative moved to global warming. Well, when that didn’t totally work out because we had some coal snaps, they moved to climate change. And they are using the – argument of climate change basically to bankrupt the United States and to bankrupt us as individuals and control, really control our lives. So I’d like to bring out these weather events so that we can understand that the climate has always been changing. So in 1893, negative 17 degrees Fahrenheit was recorded in Millsboro, Delaware. Then also Ukraine, Russia. They have been fighting for a long time. 1915, Russia occupies Bukovina and western Ukraine. 1917, the U.S. bought the Virgin Islands from Denmark for $25 million. Of course, now we’re talking about somehow acquiring Greenland. Trump is talking about that because it’s very strategic. And so this would not be the first time then that we were in negotiations with Denmark because we bought the Virgin Islands. 1934, and my dad told me about this. He said he remembers when rural America became electrified and you started to see lights on in homes in the evening. And so 1934… Less than 100 years ago, the Electric Home and Farm Authority was incorporated. In the war, World War II, 1943, there was a tin can drive day in the United States to salvage tin cans for the war effort. 1945, this was getting to an end to World War II. The Nazis begin evacuation of Auschwitz concentration camps to other camps in Austria and Germany as the Red Army advanced across to Poland. This is very famous. 1961 U.S. President Dwight Eisenhower delivers a televised farewell address to the nation three days before leaving office in which he warns against the accumulation of power by the military industrial complex. And we certainly do have a military industrial complex here. In 1982, a cold Sunday in the United States would see temperatures fall to their lowest levels in over 100 years in numerous cities. And in 1991, the Operation Desert Storm begins with the U.S.-led coalition forces bombing Iraq during the Gulf War. So that’s our This Day in History. Let’s get over here to some headlines. This is pretty interesting. This is from the BBC. Trump names Gibson, Mel Gibson, Sylvester Stallone and John Voight to be special ambassadors to Hollywood, California. And he says Trump said this was his honor to announce this. And he wrote that on his truth social platform. He says they will serve a special envoys to me for the purpose of bringing Hollywood, which has lost much business over the last four years to foreign countries back bigger, better and stronger than ever. It goes on to say all three celebrity figures have recently been associated with Trump and his election campaign. It’s unclear what their roles will involve. And in a statement, Gibson 69 said he received the news at the same time as all of you and was just as surprised. Nevertheless, I heed the call. My duty as a citizen is to give and help and insight where I can. Gibson recently lost his home in the Los Angeles wildfires. He added, any chance the position comes with an ambassador’s residence. So that’s our first headline. Next headline, this is from Media8. Media8, I think it is. Bill Maher blasts Newsom for cutting California’s red tape nightmare to help rebuild efforts. He asked why he can’t do it when we’re not on fire. And this is something that Karen Levine and I have really realized is and when I talk about these things that regarding taking away our rights is policy. These policies in many of these municipalities have made it so difficult to build single family homes. and also ownership units. And it’s a lot of it is because of zoning regulations, rules, just all kinds of different things. And so now Newsom said he’s gonna make it easier to rebuild. But what that means is connect the dot of which Bill Maher has, is that all of this is making it so difficult for people to, for developers to build single family homes. So this article says Bill Maher ripped into California Governor Gavin Newsom after Newsom announced an executive order cutting red tape to help streamline rebuilding efforts following the expansive fires that has destroyed thousands of homes. Newsom’s recent order suspends California Environmental Quality Act regulations, making faster rebuilds of homes possible. Marr joined TMZ’s Harvey Levin and Charles Ledebeduer on Wednesday and recalled his own run-ins with California’s extensive red tape. He chronicles on his real-time show that it took more than a year to get approval to build a shed to install solar panels at his property. The comedian said the state’s uber-progressive politics certainly didn’t cause the Palisades fires, but they have impeded response efforts. Mars says, I always think there’s a middle road, actual practical solution to everything. And for this, I would say was California’s uber progressive politics the cause of the fire? He says, of course not. I do think that many of those decisions, though, set California up for this more intense fire. And one of the things is just not managing the underbrush, because that’s basically the like Tinder for a fire. And so these policies, hands off of our grasslands, our forests, our land, instead of managing it properly, is, I think, one of the big causes of this California fire. And it’s so interesting, Bill Maher and other progressives are recognizing that. Next thing, and when we talk about the government can giveth and the government can taketh away, this is from Fox News. SNAP recipients may be barred from junk food purchases under a new House GOP bill. And it’s limiting food stamps. This is driven by Robert F. Kennedy Jr.’ ‘s mission to make America healthy again. Representative Josh Brigine, a Republican of Oklahoma, is leading the Healthy SNAP Act to bar most junk foods from being eligible for purchase under the SNAP program, the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program. It says President Trump has been given a mandate by the majority of Americans to make America healthy again, and those in his administration like RFK Jr. and Senator Marco Rubio have directly advocated for eliminating junk food purchases with SNAP. It says if someone wants to buy junk food on their own dime, that’s up to them, but what we’re saying is don’t ask the taxpayer to pay for it, and then also expect the taxpayer to pick up any tab for resulting health consequences. So a super interesting development on that. And then I don’t really know what to think of this. I’d love to know what you all think about this. Text line is 720-605-0647. And something just came in on the text line. And from one of our listeners says, buy Greenland seriously. He says we have no money. The U.S. is broke. That is true. We are spending way too much money. We have way too much debt. But Trump would like to get Greenland from a strategic standpoint. So text line, I want to hear what you have to think about this. That text line is 720-605-0647. And this is from NBC News. Former Presidents Obama, Clinton, and Bush will not attend Trump’s inaugural lunch. And This is a traditional inaugural lunch. Obama received an invitation but declined to attend, and apparently Michelle Obama is not going to attend the inauguration. It says Clinton was also invited but does not plan to attend, and Bush’s office says it’s not tracking an invitation to the luncheon. I don’t know if it’s normal practices that former presidents attend this luncheon. It seems to me like it would be courteous to do so, but I don’t know the protocol on that. Would love to hear what you guys all think about that. It says former Secretary of State and First Lady Hillary Clinton also received an invitation to the inaugural luncheon but will not attend. and a spokesman for Trump’s transition team did not immediately respond to a request for a comment on the absences. But all three former presidents will attend the swearing-in, so that’s good. So it may just be that that’s protocol and they don’t do that. So, again, I’d love to hear what you all have to say about that, 720-605-0647. And then next thing, this is, I think, somewhat serious. This is from the Miami Herald. The Supreme Court, as the headline delivers, a blow to oil and gas companies. And the U.S. Supreme Court is declined to hear an appeal for major oil and gas companies, including Sunoco, Shell, Chevron, ExxonMobil and BP regarding a lawsuit initiated by the city of Honolulu. It says the decision allows the lawsuit to proceed, holding the industry accountable for billions in damages allegedly linked to climate change. Chief Resilience Officer Ben Sullivan of Honolulu stated the ruling aims to protect taxpayers and communities from financial burdens related to climate damages. And This is again, this is another attack upon the oil and gas industry and that provides has provided reliable, efficient, affordable and abundant energy. And that powers our lives. It helps fuel our hopes and dreams. It helps us keep our climates, our personal climates safe. changing how we wanted so to be warm in the winter with this cold snap that’s coming up here in Colorado. I think we’re all grateful to have warm homes and cool in the summer. And so this is, I think this is a problem. And again, when they’re talking about financial burdens related to climate damage, Think about the financial burden in California and the climate damage of all of these homes and cars and trees that have gone up in smoke and that smoke is in the air. So stay tuned. This, again, is another attack upon our oil and gas industry. And all of these conversations come to you because of our sponsors. 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It is Friday. Welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Check out our website. That is KimMonson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter, and you can email me at Kim at KimMonson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We’re an independent voice, and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something’s a good idea, you should not have to force. Pleased to have on the line with me Brandon Wark. He is the founder of Free State Colorado. You can find that at freestatecolorado.com. And he calls it the Liberty Lifestyle. Brandon Wark, welcome to the show.
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Good morning, Kim. Thanks for having me on.
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Well, you really are doing great work at Free State Colorado. And I wanted to talk with you about the Colorado State Legislature. You and I both are watching that closely. And what’s your ear to the ground saying to you? Because the legislature convened just recently.
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Oh my gosh, it is going to be a crazy year down under the gold dome in Denver. Lots of stories, lots of really interesting legislation. Unfortunately, a lot of bad legislation, of course, from the perspective of a liberty-minded Coloradan. But there’s some good bright spots there as well. You know, there’s some changes from 2024. Here this year, we saw that the Democrats lost their supermajority in the state House. One of the big stories out of the 2024 election is that Republicans picked up three seats. So it’s going to shift the dynamic slightly. Now, it’s not enough to make a huge impact, but nonetheless can help slow down some of those bad bills. And actually, we got 23 new legislators, 23 out of 100 new legislators down at the state capitol. So lots of new voices, lots of new faces and lots of new ideas coming down. So it’ll be really interesting to see. But I think one of the bigger themes we’re going to see after next week is how the state legislature, you know, this Democrat majority, how they respond to Trump, the immigration issue. I think that’s going to be one of the continuing themes we see throughout the legislator this year until May when it ends. But some interesting stuff coming through. We see a lot of great bills to repeal some of the fees, some of these ridiculous laws, such as the confinement for egg-laying hens, the cage-free egg law that passed many years ago. There’s a bill to repeal that this year. Actually going to be heard next Monday in committee hearings, so really trying to rally people to go speak on that. There’s also a bill to repeal the recycled paper bag carryout fee. Everybody knows that plastic bags are banned, unfortunately, but They still charge you $0.10 for a paper bag, so there’s a bill to repeal that, and why can’t we have free paper bags at grocery stores, and grocery stores are willing to pay for them. So those are some of the subjects, some of the bills that affect us. Pretty much everybody in Colorado knows dinner table issues, but we’re seeing a lot of interesting other legislation come through as well.
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Well, and we are preparing over at the Colorado Union of Taxpayers to start with our emails on Monday. We’ll be rating bills this weekend. because bills are being scheduled for hearings. So how it works with us over at the Colorado Union of Taxpayers is we use something called Bill Track 50, which will populate all of the bills scheduled for hearing for the next week. And then we go through it and take a look at them. If they affect taxes or property rights or a TABOR school choice, then I’ll put that out for the team, the board of directors to consider. take a position on it and their reasoning. And then if we have a majority that goes one way or another, then we’ll take a position on that. So that’s going to be happening here very soon. But I can take a quick look at the number of bills that have been proposed already, and that, or I guess have been, yeah, I guess they’ve been proposed. We have 150 bills, Brandon Wark, that have already been proposed, and the legislature’s only been in session since the 8th of January. It’s pretty crazy, I think.
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Oh, it’s absolutely crazy. Last year, they had up to 700 bills introduced in the legislature. There were 500 passing last And the legislature only meets for 120 days. So, you know, you hear this refrain about Congress all the time that nobody reads the bills. They don’t have time to read these thousand page bills. Unfortunately, the same is true at our state legislature. These bills are many pages. Some of them are very long. Some of them are complicated and nuanced arguments. They come out so quickly. There’s such a short amount of time for these representatives to read through them, to decide how they’re going to vote. And it’s really unfortunate that the time is not allowed for proper public debate often. And it’s so much legislation in such a short amount of time. It’s really unreasonable to think that they can have an honest debate with public input on 500 or 700 pieces of legislation in 120 days. So a little outrageous. We got 150 so far. We’re going to see quite a bit more. One of the bills I’m most excited about, though, we have Representative Kindergarten. And Senator Mark Baisley sponsoring House Bill 1067, which is criminal asset forfeiture. So civil asset forfeiture is a major issue for a lot of people who have been watching it for many years in which law enforcement can confiscate your property, your money if they have reasonable suspicion. You know, it’s hard to get it back sometimes. It’s really unfortunate. Kindergraft’s been a leader on that issue for several years now, but I’m really hopeful that we can have some reform around this asset forfeiture here in our state government. So that’s a good one that people should really be paying attention to, and there’s a good potential for that to pass. On the other side, unfortunately, we have some bills that are going to make it a little bit harder to be a landlord. There’s a bill to get the attorney general involved in some of these local disputes with landlords and property owners. And we’ve seen this trend in many years where we have some of these legislators down there who are fighting for tenant rights. And on the surface, it sounds so good, but the ultimate effect is that it makes it harder for people to rent their property out, to be a landlord, new restrictions, new costs, new expenses. And it’s really unfortunate. That’s Senate Bill 20, sponsored by Weissman, Gonzalez, Lindsay, and Marbury, to enforce existing landlord-tenant law, but to give the Attorney General of Colorado power to do that at that local level.
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Wow. And I know of stories of people that had purchased rental property for their retirement, for cash flow. And here in Colorado, they’re making it so difficult that some people have actually moved out of Colorado and sold their properties because of that. And what that is, Brandon, though, it is an assault upon property rights. And I talk about it all the time, how there’s different ways that there could be an assault upon property rights. And this is certainly an assault upon the landlord’s property rights for their property. And so this is a real problem. And it’s been every year they seem to be coming back, trying to make it more difficult for people to have rental property here in Colorado.
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Oh, 100%. Yeah, multifamily housing has been a real target of the legislature for many years now, trying to create more state-controlled systems where people can live in and really attacking those private property owners. So it’s really unfortunate. We see where that trend is going. So it’s something people need to pay attention to.
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So, Brandon, I mentioned the Colorado Union of Taxpayers, and we’re going to have our legislative kickoff on January 23rd, which is Thursday. And that is the same night as the Center for American Values is having a great event as well. So people have two different things they can choose from. But the Colorado Union of Taxpayers is an all-volunteer group. Our membership is $25, so for basically $2.08 a month, you will be able to be very informed about what is happening down at the Statehouse, which is really important. And you can join us by going to coloradotaxpayer.org, and you can join there, and you can buy your ticket for the event. It’s just $10. But in preparation for this, the woman that created Bill Track 50, which is what we use today, She lives in London, and so I had a 4 a.m. call with her today to get things ready for what is going to happen down at the Statehouse. But one of the things that I have been very concerned about is is where we have legislation where we can actually have interested parties come in and put money into these different laws. It’s called gifts, grants, and donations. And I asked her if she would do a search and create an actual set for where we can see all of the different bills that have gifts, grants, and donations in there. And it’s something that’s very subtle, but it’s something that I have a great concern about. Have you really thought much about this gift grants and donations that can be in some of this legislation?
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You know, Kim, I’m not too familiar with it, but I’m familiar with it at least to know that it’s something to be watching, something people need to be concerned about. We’ve seen it happen previously where some of these interested parties, people with money come in. You know, so much of these bills, people say, where do they come from? Where does this legislation originate? You know, it’s not like our representatives and senators are down there thinking about it. Oftentimes they’re approached by out-of-state special interests who bring them model legislation from other states. say, hey, introduce this here. You know, we’re part of this bigger organization. Let’s put this in Colorado law. And people go along with it. And oftentimes it’s people, the citizens, the voters of Colorado are very unaware of where this legislation is coming from, who’s funding it, who’s behind it. How does it connect to these larger issues at the national level? And they come in, get this bill sponsored. It passes through committee. passes on the floor, governor can sign it into law, and now all of a sudden we have these out-of-state entities having a little bit more power in our supposed citizen representative system.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, and you’re absolutely spot on on that. And then the fact that these interested parties can somehow then come in and use gifts or grants or donations to – have interested party money to come in under law is something that is really of great concern. The other thing is that we at CUT are watching is the safety clause, which is really used and abused quite often here in Colorado as well, and that is It’s interesting in Colorado, if a piece of legislation is passed and doesn’t have the safety clause on it, we as the people of Colorado could actually vote on it on whether or not we wanted that to be implemented into law. But the safety clause was created in case there was a disaster or something needed to be done quickly. And if that is put on a piece of legislation, then we cannot vote on it. And so what we’ve seen is the safety clause has been used and abused on a regular basis here in Colorado, Brandon.
SPEAKER 05 :
Oh, yeah. And the safety clause also, they really want to push some of these bills through so quick. Instead of giving the public time to prepare to either train counter some of this legislation or even understand what’s happening, these safety clauses can have these new bills, these new laws going to affect a lot sooner as well. So it really provides a shorter timeline for some of this legislation to go through. And, you know, it’s really not right on so many levels. I mean, don’t get me wrong. True emergency. You know, I think we could all agree on that. But for the most part. What’s considered an emergency by some of these legislators is nothing that a normal person would consider to require that sense of urgency.
SPEAKER 13 :
Absolutely. And so we have a flag on this regarding safety clause. And just quickly looking at this, it looks like out of the 150 bills that have been proposed, 42 of them have the safety clause on them, which there’s, I don’t think that there’s 42 emergencies right now in Colorado. Well, actually, there’s a lot of emergencies in Colorado, but I don’t think there’s anything that we need to be putting the safety clause on legislation for, Brandon.
SPEAKER 05 :
Oh, I’m sure you’re right there. Yeah, 100%. I’m sure it’s some simple things that they really just want to see these programs instituted quickly without public input, kind of forcing their special interest agenda on Coloradans without providing necessary time and public scrutiny.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, and at Free State Colorado, when we come back, I want to talk about this. You just recently posted an article on how to provide remote testimony in Colorado Legislative Committee hearings. It says, have your voice heard. I think this is really important. So we’re going to continue the discussion with Brandon Mark. And we have all these discussions because of our sponsors. For everything mortgages, reach out to Lauren Levy.
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It is Friday. Welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMonson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We’re an independent voice and we search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something’s a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. And this year, make sure that you have in your giving repertoire to make a donation to the USMC Memorial Foundation as they are raising the money for the remodel of the Marine Memorial. Paula Sarles and her team are working diligently on making that a reality. And Paula is the president of the USMC Memorial Foundation. She’s a Gold Star wife and a Marine veteran. And you can get more information by going to USMCMemorialFoundation.org. I’m talking with Brandon Wark. He is the founder and creator of freestatecolorado.com. And Brandon, we’re talking about this 2025 Colorado legislative session. And you’ve just posted, I think, a really important article to explain to people how they can provide remote testimony. So where should we start on that?
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, Kim, definitely encourage people to get involved with your state legislature. Find out who represents you. I think would be the first step. Who’s your state senator? Who’s your state representative? And then, you know, look at some of the bills. Get on the legislative website. And I have all the links at freestatecolorado.com. Yeah, just this morning put up a post on how to provide remote testimony. You know, I think so often people are discouraged from interacting or testifying because they feel like they have to drive down to Denver. Not a lot of people want to drive down to Denver. They have other things going on in their lives. It’s far. It’s parking, all of these things we hear. But you can provide remote testimony even on a touch-tone phone. Most people don’t realize. So you do need Internet access to sign up. to email the legislature, the staff there, and tell them you want to do testimony with a touchstone phone, and it’s possible to do. So we cover that in this morning’s post of how to provide remote testimony in Colorado legislative hearings, how to have your voice heard. So definitely encourage people to do that. There’s so much important legislation, so many important topics being discussed this year. People have an opportunity to have their voice heard, and that’s what needs to happen. We need more citizen participation. in our process. We need people supporting good legislation, too. You know, there’s some good bills to lower taxes, to reduce some of the restrictions on gun ownership, some of the good things that I think liberty-minded Coloradans would like to see. And we really need people to show up in support of those bills. But at the same time, of course, there’s a lot of bad things going on down there, and people need to have their voice heard. You know, I’ve heard from legislators in the past who say, hey, well, nobody told me they didn’t like this bill. You know, nobody showed up. Nobody talked about it. And it’s so unfortunate when you see the other side have expert witnesses, have multiple people show up and speak on this. And then the pro-liberty side is absent. So we need to have our voices heard. We need to get involved. And I want to try and help make it as easy as possible for people to speak down there in the state capitol. So check it out at freestatecolorado.com.
SPEAKER 13 :
Okay. And is it as effective to testify remotely as being there? Pam Long and I talked about it yesterday that sometimes it can be really long days if you’re down there. Is it as effective? Is your voice really heard if you provide this remote testimony?
SPEAKER 05 :
I think so. I think it does make an impact. One of the nice things, too, if you’re able to do it over the WebEx or Zoom link that they provide, you actually get to watch it. You get to actually have kind of a first-person view that’s not normally seen. Most of these committee hearings, you can listen to the live audio on the legislative website, but you can’t really – there’s not a live video streaming it. However, if you’re part of this remote testimony, you can watch it. You can see what’s going on from the comfort of your own home. It makes it more convenient for people to get involved. Now, don’t get me wrong. If you’re down there in person and you get to look the representative in the eye, you’re five feet away from them, tell them how wrong they are or tell them how right they are. It’s very powerful. Plus, you can network with other individuals. You can meet people who are on the same side of that issue as you are. interact with them, network, build a community of people who care, who want to get involved, and you can find some key allies and maybe friends down there. So if you can show up in person, definitely encourage it. But I don’t want people to get discouraged if they can’t and still have your voice heard, do what you can. There’s different levels of involvement. Some people will just send an email. Some people will make a phone call to a representative or a senator over a specific bill or issue. That’s good. But the next step would be to do that remote testimony and then ultimately, if you can, show up in person.
SPEAKER 13 :
Okay, so great advice. And again, you can find this at freestatecolorado.com. Somebody that you and I both really respect is Natalie Minton. She has been tireless in really being an advocate for Coloradans, for taxpayers. And you recently published this with her. How many DEI employees is your tax money paying for? And she explains that. But she is doing amazing work. And it’s important that we shed light on all of this. And so tell us just a little bit about that post.
SPEAKER 05 :
Oh, definitely. Can’t speak highly enough of Natalie Metten. She’s one of our Liberty Warriors, our Liberty leaders fighting the good fight down in Jefferson County. Well, she was curious about the payroll situation at the county level. So in our video that people can find at Free State Colorado, she goes through her CORA request. So Colorado Open Records Act request to get the payroll records for Jefferson County. And that’s public information. You have the right to that information as a citizen here, as a taxpayer in Colorado. So she got that information, and then she found that there’s several employees, at least four that she saw, that are specifically DEI, which is this diversity inclusion type of thing that’s in the media these days, but DEI employees. There’s at least four of them in Jefferson County, and a DEI manager is making over $100,000, so making lots and lots of money. And the question is, what do they do, this diversity, equity, inclusion employees? What do they do? And, you know, so she was able to see that they, you know, help plan for some parades and they talk about different issues and send emails and they’re making lots of money. And of course, you know, these governments are so starved for cash. They claim, you know, we have potholes in our roads. We have crime in our streets. We have so many issues that these local governments say they can’t deal with until they take more of our money. and yet they have employees that are paying specifically for this DEI program that don’t seem to do much else except provide input from that perspective to the county commissioners, to different offices, and it’s really eye-opening. So I really encourage people to check out that video Natalie and I made and find out how you can do a core request to find the payroll of your local government employees and see what’s going on in your community.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, and another great resource for that can be open the books as well, which they’re doing great work on a national level. And then they’re getting the payroll for many. And if you don’t see it there, but for many different municipalities, fire districts, all kinds of things. And if you don’t see your municipality there, you can let them know and they’ll get that on there. This came in on the text line. Do you happen to know? Is there going to be any kind of a bill to stop people from running for office and then immediately stepping down and then somebody is appointed to that position? Do you know of anything out there yet on that, Brandon?
SPEAKER 05 :
So it’s definitely been in the media that there’s going to be legislation dealing with vacancy committees. Now, I haven’t seen any final bill drafts, but I know that’s going to be one of the issues that we’re going to see coming up here. So it’s definitely something to keep an eye on. And I would encourage people to sign up to be a member of the Colorado Union of Taxpayers to get those weekly email alerts. That’s a great way to find out all the different legislation down there. And then actually Free State Colorado, we’re doing a legislative live stream every Sunday night on YouTube, Free State Colorado on YouTube. every Sunday night at 7.30, and we’re going to talk about some of the bills of the week. So that’s something I’m going to be keeping a close eye on. I know we’ve seen bills in the past dealing with vacancy committees, and I know we’ll see something this year. So I’m very curious as well to see what that looks like.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, I am curious about that as well. And again, I would recommend that people check out Free State Colorado. And we really do have some great warriors down there standing up for the taxpayer. And one of those, and you’ve done a piece on him, is Kindergraf. We’ve got a couple of minutes left, but I do want to give a shout out to him. He’s been tireless in the work that he’s been doing as one of our Colorado state legislators.
SPEAKER 05 :
Oh, 100%. I definitely encouraged people last week. I put out a video with him. It was about 40 minutes, and he talked, and he gives the unvarnished truth about what’s going on down at the state legislature. We talk about some really good issues in terms of the ideology behind the thought process, this battle versus freedom and liberty versus this authoritarianism. And he really spells it out. He doesn’t hold anything back. It was a really fun video. So I really encourage people to hear directly from him. And he’s got some great bills he’s sponsoring this year. So if you see Kindergraft’s name on it, definitely encourage people to show up and testify on those bills as well.
SPEAKER 13 :
Okay. We’ve got a minute left. How would you like to wrap this up, Brandon Wark?
SPEAKER 05 :
I would say people should be hopeful. It’s easy to get down. It’s easy to get depressed. When you look at the news, when you get on social media and see so much negativity here in Colorado, But we have so much opportunity. There’s so many more people fighting the good fight. There’s people out there doing what they can to shine a light on the misdeeds of these politicians and these interested parties. So get involved, network, support, find a support system at that local level, and really pay attention and show up. The first step is showing up. Show up at your city council meeting, your county commissioner hearings. Show up at local meetups and get involved. Find the others. Let’s build a liberty network and push back against this authoritarianism.
SPEAKER 13 :
Absolutely. And you’re doing such great work. And I just love your optimism on all of this, Brandon. And I’m sure that we will see each other quite often, probably, this particular legislative session. So thank you. Check out freestatecolorado.com. Keep up the great work, Brandon Wark.
SPEAKER 05 :
Thank you, Kim. Take care.
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SPEAKER 12 :
Good morning, Kim. Good morning and happy Friday. I’m not sure about the cowboy wisdom, but I’ll do my best.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, I love the wisdom of your father from last week that you shared with us. And I actually had a treat last night. I had a Lavaca filet. And it really is truly a premium product, and it truly is the steakhouse experience at home. And for a real treat, I would recommend people check that out. And it’s just really, it really is a great product.
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, thank you. I think so, too. I think one of the really neat things in life is to be able to have the best of something. We think it’s as good as it can be, and we’re trying every day to make it as good as it can be. And A reflection of what we do. So we were at the stock show yesterday and went down to the Cattlemen’s Club. Shout out to my little nephew, Zach, there, who worked on our team. Zach May and saw Christian Dinsdale and a bunch of his crew, Kenny Monfort, kind of the young lions in some of our businesses. And so we went out to the Cattlemen’s Club. club down there. It had a primary event. It was wonderful. It’s a quality of Lavaca. It was a good experience. Happy for everybody that’s coming in the store. We’ll do all we can to meet your needs.
SPEAKER 13 :
And that the store is located at the corner of Nevada and Maine in Old Littleton. And one of our listeners said that she had sent Lavaca Meat Company some fillets for Christmas. And she typically would send the competitors in the past. And she sent, anyway, a gift box to her brother-in-law. And he responded back and said it was the best he’d ever had.
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, that’s wonderful to hear. And I hope… I hope more of you will try that. And, you know, going on through the year, this is a good place to come and get it online at LavacaMeat.com and the steakhouse experience at home.
SPEAKER 13 :
Okay. So you were at the National Western. I know that you and Trent Luce were trying to get connected. Did that happen yesterday or not?
SPEAKER 12 :
You know, we were trying. I left a quick voicemail or something. Well, actually, his mailbox was full. He’s a busy guy. And then he texted me back. He called back. We did not get to touch bases. I did not meet him yesterday. We’ve had a kind of slam this week and couldn’t stay very long. We share a lot of the same mentality, for sure. And he’s a good man.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, really important. And we continue to shed light on this real attack on the people that feed and fuel us from a legislative standpoint, from rules, regulations. And so we continue to shed light on that because we have taken it for granted that having affordable and abundant food sources. And so we need to continue to shed light on all of this so that we can continue to have this great blessing that we have. Do you have a poem for us today, Jim May, by any chance?
SPEAKER 12 :
I have one I’ve never run by on this show, and they’re getting to beat you in far between. And by the way, the technology is there now to just tell AI to write a poem. So maybe I’m a dying breed here, but everything I’ve ever done is my stuff as far as my writing and that. And I still think there’s something about that that I’m not going to change. I’m not going to do the cheating. This is an old one I wrote many years ago for… Bill Foxley, who was in the Hall of Fame. And the theme here, Dan’s going in the Hall of Fame here in just a couple of weeks. My brother Dan, and thank you all for your support and votes for him. And he was responsible for getting two people in the Hall of Fame. One was a banker named Roy Dinsdale. Bank of Colorado here is owned by the Dinsdales and the Pinnacle Banks in Nebraska, a really great family and a really great supporter of the cattle industry. Saw Christian yesterday there. And the other one is Bill Foxley, who we bought the Nebraska feedlot from, and it’s a quickie. This is called the Fox and the Hound. In the heart of Nebraska, two people were born in the land of the sandhill, now covered in corn. Cattlemen and banker, the best to be found. This is the legend of the fox and the hound. They named the fox, well, he’s sly and he’s cunning. The traders are scared and the brokers are running. The floor of the murk is starting to rattle and when the dust is all cleared, he’s just wind rowing cattle. The hound is honest and loyal and smart. If you’ll do the same, he’ll give you your start. To call them a hound might be a bit blunt, but one thing is certain, that dog will hunt. So Nebraska released them, the fox and the hound, and they ran and they hunted and tracked them all down. The best generation they came from, they say, the fox and the hound, they know how to play.
SPEAKER 13 :
Oh, I love that.
SPEAKER 12 :
They’ve never done that one, and dedicated to Bill Foxley and Roy Densville.
SPEAKER 13 :
Okay. And I’m with you also on this AI thing. I know that it can do a lot of different things, but I’m with you. I like to have original content. So good for you.
SPEAKER 12 :
My stuff comes from me. And then I’m going to work on some of the ones we’ve done over the year now, almost been a year, and committing those to memory and working through that. And that’s the other thing about poetry. I think it needs to be inside you. And that’s what I’m going to try to do is get some of those We’ve had poems for almost every holiday over the year here and the elections and some of the things I’ve done. And so in my miles and my travels, I’ll try to put them all inside my head.
SPEAKER 13 :
I love that, Jim May. I love that. So people need to check out LavacaMeat.com and Lavaca Meat Company. It really is a premium product, and it is really a treat. And so I would highly recommend people check that out. Jim, have a great day, and we will talk to you next week then.
SPEAKER 12 :
Great, Kim. Thanks. Good to be with you. It’s going to get cold now. Bundle up and have a great week.
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It is Friday. Welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N dot com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at Kim Monson dot com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We’re an independent voice. We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something’s a good idea, you should not have to force people to do it. I’m really pleased to have on the line with me Sandra Lall. She is a listener of the show and just has great insight on so many different things. But after we had had John Spence and Maria Sepnik on the show earlier this, well, gosh, I guess it was a week or so ago now. Now I’m drawing a blank. But anyway, it was regarding our grid is at significant danger with Chinese influence as well as our ports. And if things really got bad, what should we do? We should be prepared. We talk about being prepared. And Sandra has some great comments about that. So, Sandra, welcome to the show. Thank you, Kim. Good morning. Great to have you. And you and I talked about being prepared, and I thought it would be great to have you on the show. So set this up a bit for us. How did you end up coming up with this list of things that you recommend for people?
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, it goes way back. My dad, well, first of all, I was born in Leadville. My dad was born in Boulder, Colorado folks. And he was just probably like your dad, Kim. was always prepared. I mean, he had a toolbox always. I always remember crowbars, hammers, you know, you name it. An ax, a saw, just in case. And so I grew up this way. My mother, we’d go camping. My dad would go hunting on his own in Leadville up in the mountains by himself. And so I learned a lot. And when we would go camping, My dad would take us up on these logging roads up in the high country here in Colorado, and my mom would pull us out of the camper, and we’d all walk behind the truck because the road was so narrow. I never thought you had to pay for campgrounds because we were out in the middle of nowhere all the time.
SPEAKER 13 :
There it is. Wow. And so you had to get out because the road was so, that would be pretty hairy, I would think.
SPEAKER 14 :
It was kind of hairy. My mother would just pull us out of camp. We never knew why. We were just little children. And she goes, come on, we’re going to follow the camper. Okay.
SPEAKER 13 :
So here we are now, and so many people live in the urban areas. They’re not prepared. If something would happen regarding the electricity goes out or, of course, all these fires in California, we see what’s happened in North Carolina, Lahaina. For people in the urban area, This is a pretty extensive list. How would you recommend that they put this all together, Sandra Law? Let’s go through it.
SPEAKER 14 :
I would just, you know, first of all, I’d like to, let’s make it fun for a family, a family effort. And, like, even prepare a little fanny pack for the children. They make their own pack, what they think is important. And make it interesting and make it serious that they know that they might need this one day. And hopefully that day won’t come. But if it does, they’re ready. I just kind of did a little. The first thing I put on there is make your contact list and get all your essential documents. But that contact list is. It’s probably the last thing we think of. When these fires came these last years in Colorado, I did not have my, I mean, I had it on my phone, but what if the phone goes out? You need to really put pen to paper and write those lists, put it in a Ziploc bag and put it in the emergency fanny pack. I also have your essential documents, your passport, your insurance papers. Maybe photos of your home, even if they’re just copies, you have photos. I’m trying to think what else they have here. Your driver’s license, your medical papers, put your prescription, your prescriptions in that fanny pack, an extra pair of prescription glasses. Just the little things you don’t think of. Always have water. So that’s the emergency fanny pack. And, um, I always, I always carry a little, um, one of those little, um, I always have my little teeny pocket Gideon Bible. Yep. I have that one. And, um, you want, uh, your, you know, your extra, let me see the contact list and your passport driver’s license. So all of that place in a Ziploc bag. So it keeps, so it keeps dry just in case. Um, And then the next one I have is your essential backpack. And this is the one that will actually go. I’m going to go to the vehicle. I’m going to do the vehicle since I think that’s the most important thing.
SPEAKER 13 :
Let’s see here. You said a good map. You really recommended a good map. That’s important.
SPEAKER 14 :
A good map. And the one I have is called the, it’s called D D Lorme and it’s capital D E capital L O R M E. And it’s a topographical map. It will lay out here in Colorado. I have one in each of our trucks and it, it, it, Maps out every trail, every back road, lake, creek here in Colorado. It’s amazing. It’s an amazing map. It’s like an atlas, the size of an atlas, but it’s pages of anywhere in Colorado you would want to go. And a good map is good because if the cell service goes down and you don’t have your GPS going on with your map, It’s nice to know that you have that backup. And I recommend if you do have to evacuate, just know your route. And we’ve seen what’s happened in these fires where, well, people, you know, just they can’t get out. And even if you’re on foot, you have that map. But your vehicle, okay, I’m getting off track here. So… So in the truck, in the vehicle, a lot of water, food. And some food as well, right? Yeah, food and water. I put in there sleeping bags or a blanket, weatherproof, an extra pair of weatherproof boots, weatherproof coat, hat, gloves, a phone charger. An external power source, just in case those charges don’t work. But I think in your vehicle, you can put it in to where the lighter is or used to be able to. A fire kit, your spare tire, your tire pumps, your jacks, flashlights, battery jumper cables, window washer fluid, just in case. I mean, when all this ash was flying around after the Cameron Peak fire, we had ash everywhere. And you couldn’t see out of your windshield. Let’s see. Reflective jackets are best. So if you have to get out of the vehicle, people can see you. Also, I always call it rescue me clothing, too. So and a shovel, an axe, a metal bucket, and a tool kit, a roll of duct tape, a fire extinguisher, sanitized hand wipes, paper towels, bathroom tissue, and That’s like the basics. And that’s just, you know, you can just, those are easy things to kind of pick up. And when you start preparing your, you know, it’s kind of overwhelming when you hear all this list. But as you think about it, just have a box maybe, you know, in the garage. And as you think about it, just put things in as you go. And then it’s not an overwhelming chore. Does that make sense?
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, because it does, as I was looking at this, I thought, oh, my gosh, it seems a little daunting to put all this together. But I think you’re right to just start to kind of bite off on the list and have that ready to go. And, again, hopefully we never have to use this. And another thing that you mentioned was a full tank of gas. Yes. And that’s what you always tell us, Kim. Yeah, it’s really important. And so I always am driving. I shouldn’t say always. There was I did get down under half tank within the last month or so. And I thought, oh, my gosh, I need to make sure and be prepared, because I think that’s one of those things. As you see these abandoned vehicles in both the Lahaina pictures and also in California. I can’t figure out how how that began, though. How was it that was it a traffic jam or do you have any idea what happened that people then just ended up getting out of their cars?
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, what happened in Lahaina is the policemen had stopped him on the road and they were they were not letting them through. And so people have their children at home. See, the children stayed home that day. And these parents, they were trying to get home to their children. They saw the fires coming and they were running, running to their homes. And that’s what happened there. California, I think the fires just overwhelmed them, Kim. And I don’t think they could, yeah, they couldn’t go anywhere. So the other thing in your vehicle I forgot is the first aid kit.
SPEAKER 13 :
Okay, okay.
SPEAKER 14 :
And so let’s go to basically… Okay. If you have the things ready in your vehicle, you actually have half of everything you need probably for an emergency.
SPEAKER 13 :
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SPEAKER 13 :
It is Friday. Welcome back to The Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is KimMonson.com. Sign up for our weekly email newsletter. You can email me at Kim at KimMonson.com as well. Thank you to all of you who support us. We’re an independent voice. We search for truth and clarity by looking at these issues through the lens of freedom versus force, force versus freedom. If something’s a good idea, shouldn’t have to force people to do it. And do check out the USMC Memorial Foundation’s website. That’s USMCMemorialFoundation.org. And make sure that you add this into your list of giving this year, because it is coming through the Biden-Harris administration and the tearing down of monuments and statues and renaming things. It is really important that we remember and honor those that have given. given their lives or been willing to give their lives for us. So be sure and check out the USMCMemorialFoundation.org. I’m talking with Sandra Lull. She is a listener who grew up being prepared. And we wanted to talk about having things on hand to be prepared. One of our listeners asked if this list is going to be available anywhere. We will have that in the show summary on my website. So be sure and you’ll be able to find that there. So, Sandra, you had a rather extensive list for if you’re in the backcountry, which I thought was pretty interesting. So tell us about that.
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, the things that really – we always have a backpack, and we go camping a lot in the middle of nowhere. And, you know, it’s one of those things, if you don’t have it, you can’t use it sort of thing. Yeah, so usually I have basically what I have in our trucks. But then we go a little bit further. We have a cranked radio with the Weather Channel AM and FM. It’s battery-powered, always have extra batteries, canned food. manual can opener, sharp knife, coffee. I almost forgot that on the list. Salt and pepper, honey, a lot of Ziploc bags, garbage bags, rolls of duct tape, life straw for water filtering. We’re usually by a water source, so just in case. A deck of cards, a board game, something to keep us, you know, You know, interested. It’s good for children, too, to put that maybe in, you know, in your to-go bag, too, for children. And in the toiletries, insect repellents, sunscreen, toothpaste, toothbrush, shampoo, towels, washcloth, feminine supplies, and I always have my Carmex. So, yeah. Also, the water, we do carry a lot of water with us in our medicine, our first aid kits, utensils, bowls. We always have a camp stove. We have a little camp stove. It’s a little like a, I call it the one cup butane thing. And you can put it on and actually place pots like a teapot or a soup pot on top and cook with that. So, I mean, it’s easy, squeezy. Now, you go online, Amazon just has about everything. But I recommend going to Jack’s Outdoor Stores. That’s where I got the topographical map, the Delorme map that’s so useful. And any camping gear, all my mountain boots and stuff come from there as well. I use a lot of Ziploc bags. And also take some, you know, storage containers. You know, the plastic that I call them Tupperware, but aluminum foil, a fire kit, a flint starter kit, a neck whistle, binoculars, a lot of flashlights. And that’s about it. My main thing is having that water.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, water is really, really important. And so you have water on hand at home as well? Do you just put it in bottles or how are you storing water?
SPEAKER 14 :
We’ve bought these big bladders. They hold 100, I think it’s 100 gallons in each bladder. And you can put those, you know, in the garage or, you know, just somewhere where it doesn’t freeze. And yeah, we have we have a lot of water on board just in case.
SPEAKER 13 :
So let’s talk about people in the urban area. I’m thinking about people that are in these these apartments, the four or five story apartment buildings, small apartments. They don’t have a lot of room. And guys, if people don’t have a vehicle, that’s a that’s a pretty difficult thing, too, if there was a disaster. Right. That is.
SPEAKER 14 :
That’s why you need that emergency list. You have neighbors and friends. You can pull together somebody who does have a vehicle. And that’s why that list, it’s the number one thing on my list because it’s the one thing I did not have prepared, and I’m embarrassed to say, you know, to call out to other people. I mean, I have numbers on my phone, but to actually have that contact list, at the ready is so important.
SPEAKER 13 :
Okay. And so what about somebody living in a small apartment in the urban area? In some ways, it seems like it would be difficult to have a lot of this stuff.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, it would. The other thing we have is I have a Berkey water filter system, and you can get them in the Amish, Lehman’s Amish store sells them, and I think you can get them online on Amazon. But you can get the really big ones, so at least you have a water source, clean water for a while if your water goes off. But I do. I mean, I even get teased a lot. But I do save water in bottles. And if I don’t use them, you know, for us, I use them as my plant water or my garden water. I mean, you get creative. But, you know, getting those gallon bottles of water, the milk jugs, if you will. I like putting things in glass, but if you have plastic and you need water, you’ll have it. Also, the other tip with water, if you, you know, put it in a plastic container, don’t put a lid on it because in about an hour, all that, the chlorine evaporates out of it. So it’s better drinking water then.
SPEAKER 13 :
Okay, that’s a great tip. So first, so if you are in the urban area, certainly make sure that you have extra water. You can have all of these things that would be in the fanny pack and the backpack. But probably, just trying to think about, so many younger people would not be thinking about this kind of preparation. And they could just have… a box there in their apartment someplace with um with their prep which i think would be a great idea so again let’s let’s run through this emergency backpack you said holy bible prescribed medication water food cups bowls utensils all-weather coat first aid kit soap toilet paper paper towels hand sanitizer flashlights and and solar portable radio two-way radio And is that primarily for information? So you said weather channel, those kinds of things?
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, that has a weather channel on it. So let’s say the electricity goes off, and maybe they’re announcing evacuation routes. Maybe, you know, or a center for shelter. It’s nice to have. It cranks. It’s actually a hand crank.
SPEAKER 1 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 14 :
And it charges up. It takes a while, but I mean, not too long, but you just crank it and you dial it to the station. Maybe you want to hear the weather. They go for about $39 and on up, but they work.
SPEAKER 13 :
Okay. And, yeah, I’m just doing a quick search on that, and that’s easy enough. So I need to do some shopping here, it looks like. Okay, so we said hand crank, radio, batteries, external power source. What is that exactly, external power source? What would that be?
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, we have one. It’s called Goal Zero. And it’s like a little sun solar panel. And you can plug your devices into them if you need them. And you can charge up your solar batteries and some of your solar flashlights. So you always have light. Like if you’re in the dark in your apartment, you can have that solar light.
SPEAKER 13 :
And how do you spell that again, Sandra?
SPEAKER 14 :
It’s goal zero, like a goal post. G-O-A-L-0-Z-E-R-O.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 14 :
And those are also, you know, they sell a lot of those. They were going like hotcakes a couple years ago there at the Jack’s Outdoor Store.
SPEAKER 03 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 14 :
You can get them in every size, shape. It’s amazing. They’re in there, and you can pack them up in your And they’re to go back.
SPEAKER 13 :
Okay. Okay. And it looks like there’s some bigger ones as well. So are they pretty expensive? The bigger ones are.
SPEAKER 14 :
The smaller ones are reasonable. When you get one about the size of a small, like I call them a card table, you can get them up that big. And those get up a little bit higher. But they’re handy to have because we’ve got a lot of sun here in Colorado. Okay.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yeah, so that’s a great idea. Okay, so we’ve got that. Then extra pair of boots and shoes, protein food, nuts, dried fruit, raisins, peanut butter, honey, canned meat, canned food, manual can opener. That is really important. I remember my brother, when he was a little kid, he decided he was going to run away from home. So he packed up all of this canned goods, and I remember he had this red, white, and blue suitcase, and he got down to the end of the alley, and he came back, and he said, I forgot a can opener, and that is a real problem. He certainly wanted a manual can opener.
SPEAKER 14 :
sharp knives ziploc bags large garbage bags um live straw water filter now what is that exactly uh sandra law it’s actually it’s something that you can like if you’re by a stream or you have some kind of a water source and and you want to make sure it’s clear you don’t you don’t you you don’t want any parasites or anything and it just filters the water out it’s um They’re at Jack’s as well or on Amazon. Yeah, you’re filtering the water through a live straw. And, yeah.
SPEAKER 13 :
Okay, so I’m seeing that. And then emergency alert radio, battery powered. And then, yes, things to keep you occupied, deck of cards. That’s really important as well. So this has really been fascinating. And you and I will work together and we’ll get this list together. And then that will be posted on the website for people as well.
SPEAKER 14 :
So just one more thing. I think I had it at the very end. I said, do not leave your home if you don’t have to. Even in a mandatory evacuation order, discern and assess your situation. And so if you have to evacuate your home, just have two emergency destinations planned and know your routes. And then I say to have a planned emergency day to prepare for that day. So making an event in your family with your children or neighbors, you know, this is what we’re going to do if this happens. And, yeah, when this last fire came here, the Storm Mountain Fire, the Alexander Fire, people were ordered to evacuate up there by Pine Ridge Road. And a lot of people didn’t leave their homes. The fire, they felt comfortable staying there. Some people did evacuate. Because once you evacuate, you can’t get back in your home. And, yeah, so it’s good to know.
SPEAKER 13 :
Yes, and one other thing we didn’t talk about, and we should, and that is pets. And you said that you could have a backpack for your pets as well.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yes. So a collar with its name or your name and your telephone number, the veterinarian records, a recent pet photo, dry pet food and treats, leashes, double clips, food and water bowls, two toys, a ball, and a soft bed.
SPEAKER 13 :
Okay, and that is really important as well because, and it’s really tragic. I saw on one of the evening shows they were interviewing someone in the California fire, and I think that they couldn’t get back to their pets. I saw that one. Yeah, that’s really, really tragic. We love our pets. We do. But but God willing, we will not have to be in this situation. But you just never know. So we’ll put this together. I think that it’s it’s important to be prepared. And even if you don’t have everything, make sure that you get started on this as well. And so this has been really great advice for people to be prepared. Sandra, any other final thoughts that you want to leave with our listeners?
SPEAKER 14 :
Well, just like I said, make it a family event, you know, and just go along. When you go to the store and you see somebody go, hey, I could use that, that’s good for the to-go bag. And grab and go at the grocery store and then put it in your box at home.
SPEAKER 13 :
Okay. Sondra Lal, this is great advice, and I really do appreciate it. And then I’m using your quote that you suggested from Ben Franklin for our end of the show quote as well. And so thank you. Thank you so much. And we’re going to be taking call-ins, and I’m going to be commenting on some of the text messages coming in in this next segment. And so, Sondra Lal, thank you so much. Thank you, Kim. And a great sponsor of the show is John Boson with Boson Law. And if you have had some complications from Ozempic or any of the other drugs in that family, reach out to John Boson at Boson Law because you might be able to get some remedies for that. And so be sure and reach out to John Boson.
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It is Friday. Welcome back to the Kim Monson Show. Be sure and check out our website. That is Kim Monson, M-O-N-S-O-N.com. And I do want to hear from you. Our call in line is 303-477-5600. That’s 303-477-5600. And hopefully I’ll get this texted over to one of our listeners who wants to call in on this as well. Jenny said regarding this podcast, being prepared is to start with a survival mindset shut off all the water and gas and yeah that makes a lot of sense you don’t want to have the gas on which could cause um an explosion and don’t want to have uh all that water if uh if something happens as well so good advice on that um Okay, one of our listeners said, Kim, you better trade in your little car for a Suburban. I actually have a big car. I grew up in farming and ranching country, and so I was used to pickups, and so my car is the size of pickups. Oh, Yvonne said she’d love to be involved in our prep list as well, and that would be great. We’ll have her do that. candles and lighters in your home for light, and that’s a great idea as well. So we’ve got Tom Tarver on the line, one of our listeners. Tom, welcome. What’s on your radar?
SPEAKER 04 :
Good morning, Kim. So I was listening in this morning and listening to your last caller, and that’s the basic outline of stuff you need. And because in the event of power outages, you don’t have a car anymore. So there’s a litany of different things that the survival guys will talk to you about to make more efficient packs, better food sources, better water systems, things to do with fire. I mean, you can start a fire with two batteries of steel wool, or you can start a fire with water and miners carbide. A lot of people don’t know you need water to start a fire with. In a rainstorm, you can start a fire. So there’s a lot of different things you can do to enhance that. But as As a listener and a student of this kind of stuff, there’s a great book that was written by William Forsythe, and it’s called One Second After. And I’m not sure if you’ve ever read that.
SPEAKER 13 :
I have not read it. I’ve heard of it. So it sounds like I need to read it.
SPEAKER 04 :
I just sent you the audio version of it on a text link, and you can share it with your listeners. And it talks about when an EMP goes off in a rural part of North Carolina and and then what happens to the system, how the system breaks down. If the power goes out, you know, the first people, unfortunately, are very sharply diabetics because there’s no refrigeration. Cars don’t move. Gas pumps don’t work. There’s no heat. There’s no way to charge your phones. In an EMP situation, it’ll take out the electronic devices, so solar-powered stuff becomes ineffective. You’re going to have to go back to the rudimentary caveman-type things on how to start a fire. So you need fire, water, shelter, all those different types of things. Um, it’s a great, it’s a great lesson for you. And I’d love to come back on and talk about it in depth after everybody gets in a listen. And in our case, like when we live, we live out in Larkspur. So for us, um, our, our defense mechanisms and survival mechanisms are built into our homes in the, in terms of what, what are the mobile options, what to do in a case of fire, those kinds of things. We have, we have a one hour, two hour, three hour window for our bug out what we’re going to take with us. If we have to depart, how to pack a camper and how to leave, what destinations do you select to go stay at? If those are not available, what are your backup plans? What are you going to have to do if you have to walk? I mean, there’s a litany of things that go along with that. And there are some great survivalist guys out there that might be calling in here to go over some of the things, like the food that she was talking about are perishable. So you may have a shelf life on those where you’ve got your typical and even your traditional hikers and campers used to dry food. Dry freeze foods and stuff like that that will carry a shelf like that can sit in your house forever and be ready to go for you in a moment’s notice. And it weighs 80% less than the food sources that your prior caller called in on. Not that that’s wrong, but you do have to have a plan. But there are many efficient ways to go about this.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, and Tom, I’ll ask you what I asked Sandra as well is, this is extensive, but here in the metro area, we have all these apartment buildings, four and five story apartment buildings, people living in these teeny tiny little apartments. This is not really crossing their mind, I don’t think. What would you say to them?
SPEAKER 04 :
It’s not. And in the event of this, I’m telling you, that’s the best part of this book is it talks about what happens to the inner cities and how inner cities move to the outer suburbs looking for resources. and i remember peter boils used to talk about this it’s called the seven meal rule and after seven meals you turn into an animal so what happens to the inner cities most people don’t have more than a couple days of food because they go down to the grocery store well what if everybody raids that grocery store and there’s no more food right so then people are going to start automatically starting to go out of the city into the suburbs into the suburbs into the rural areas in search of services food water things like that and you’re going to have mass chaos inside the cities because people are going to start fighting over food. And you’ve seen it throughout history. That’s what happens. So, uh, the, that’s the, the ultimate, I think crucible of a problem for inner city people is when something like this were to happen, the inner cities are going to what die first. Okay. And so as, as people come out, then you end up with conflict. There’s engagement. She didn’t mention anything about weapons. You have to be able to defend yourself. You know, that’s kind of suburbia talk like that. But if you’re outside and a gang of people come up on you and they’re not intent on working with you, your survivalist mode has to kick in. So you need your defense mechanisms and systems in place to be able to defend yourself, your family, your neighbors, however you’re going to go about it in your scenario.
SPEAKER 13 :
Well, and I think we can connect this then to legislation here in Colorado. There is, down at the legislature, there is continued legislation trying to limit law-abiding citizens from having firearms to protect themselves against bad actors. And we’re going to see that again down here at this legislature. One has to ask why. Why? Because we need to be able to protect ourselves, Tom Tarver. This was really fascinating. We’ve got about a minute left. Any other nuggets of wisdom you’d like to leave with our listeners?
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, I’d like to tell your listeners to search out. You can listen to the online. It’s called One Second After and get educated on it, and then you’ll understand what your next steps are.
SPEAKER 13 :
Okay. Tom Tarver, thank you so much. I really do appreciate it. And let’s see, let’s get it. Oh, I did. I had that question posed regarding Obama and Clinton and Bush not attending Trump’s inaugural luncheon. And one of our listeners, Connie, said this. She said, shame on them. They’re acting like children. That’s exactly what I was thinking as well. And but maybe maybe it’s protocol, but it sure seemed like it would be the courteous thing to do. And then another listener regarding this headline that I had mentioned regarding the city of Honolulu that is suing the oil and gas industry. This one listener said, boycott Hawaii. And let’s see here. Okay. From a strategic standpoint, getting Greenland would be important. And, oh, and this is from one of our listeners who said, yes, mentioning firearms to be able to protect yourself and your family against bad guys. And, yeah. One of our listeners said with the scenario of people moving out of the inner city, moving out to the suburbs, Jenny said they need to go to politicians’ homes first because they created this. So love hearing from you. I wish you guys all really a great weekend. Our quote for the end of the show is from Benjamin Franklin. He said this, by failing to prepare, you are preparing to fail. So, my friends, read great books, be grateful, think good thoughts, listen to beautiful music, communicate and listen well, live honestly and authentically, strive for high ideals, and like Superman, stand for truth, justice, and the American way. My friends, you are not alone. God bless you, and God bless America.
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Young like a new moon rising Fierce through the rain and lightning Wandering out into this great unknown And I don’t want no one to cry But tell them if I don’t survive I was born
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