Join the hosts as they analyze the recent US military operation targeting Iran’s nuclear sites, evaluating its effectiveness and the political ramifications. The podcast provides a nuanced perspective on President Trump’s decision-making process, media narratives surrounding the event, and the broader geopolitical consequences. Dive into a deep discussion about the intersection of political strategy, military precision, and international relations.
SPEAKER 01 :
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SPEAKER 04 :
Back with another week of the National Crawford Roundtable Podcast with all of the guys, John, Neil, myself, Bob. Guys, how are you? Great. Great, Bob. Thank you. Well, it’s always great talking with you. And okay, well, the big news, obviously, everybody’s talking about is a situation in Iran. So President Trump, as you know, on Saturday launched some bunker-busting missiles into the Fordow facility. There’s also two other facilities that were hit. But The main, the most important one is the Fordow facility. And the reason that that’s so critical is because it’s buried about 260 feet underground in the mountains of Iraq. And nobody else, nobody in the world actually has the capability to go down that deep into the ground and dig. And destroy something. Well, we do. We’ve got these 30,000-pound bunker-busting missiles that are able to hit the ground. They don’t explode on impact. They burrow down into the ground, and they set off explosions deep underground. And so President Trump says that this is an amazing success. We’re now seeing a lot of reports in the media that are saying, well, I don’t know, was it really? We have this Intel report from the Defense Department saying this may have only set things back a few months, but we don’t really know if that’s accurate. So we’ll talk about all of that. But first, in a general sense, let’s talk about whether this was the right thing for President Trump to do. And as I’ve been saying, and I said this on my show here in Detroit, I think this was absolutely necessary for Donald Trump to do because – I think that the risk of inaction was way worse. You had a nuclear expert who his expertise is specifically in the area of Iran and nuclear weapons, and he estimated that Iran was within a month away from from developing nuclear weapons, that they’re that close they can develop them anytime. And we got to remember, Iran is not like any other country with nuclear weapons, okay? Because Pakistan, North Korea, China, Russia, India, these countries, they don’t want mutually assured destruction. They don’t want Armageddon. They don’t want a nuclear holocaust. But the mullahs in Iran do. Because of this Shia Islam that they practice where they’re waiting on this 12th Imam, the Mahdi, to return in Armageddon and taking out the greater Satan and the lesser Satan is a way to usher that in. So for them, a nuclear weapon is something that they would, in fact, use. And if Trump did not take action. And then six months from now, a nuclear weapon went off in Israel or in the United States and people died from this. Everybody would be going, Donald Trump, you had a chance to try to take out their nuclear facilities in Fordow and you didn’t do it. You didn’t take action. And now look what happened. So I know Trump doesn’t like getting involved in military conflicts in other countries, but I think he had to make a very tough decision about which is the lesser of the evils, action or inaction. And he saw inaction as the most dangerous of the two evils, and I tend to agree with him from my armchair quarterback position. So let’s kind of go around the table and see what you guys think. First of all, John, right thing to do, wrong thing to do. What’s your take?
SPEAKER 02 :
Right. No, right thing to do. I predicted last week that if we were going to do it, needed to get it done quickly. I was off by, honestly, on my show one day was all. I thought they’d do it by Friday. He did it Saturday instead. Or you could say Friday night, midnight, whatever. Bottom line is by the end of the week, he did what I think he needed to do. And for all the reasons that you just said, Bob, and no, for all of the warmongers that are out there, Donald Trump is not one of those. I’ve had so many arguments on air this past week from the hardcore libertarian, let’s never strike out. We only need to worry about what happens on our soil. I mean, some of those guys, by the way, just as a side note, are completely nuts. I have no other – other thing to call them other than they’re not looking at things correctly when it comes to how you handle things around the world.
SPEAKER 04 :
Wait till a dirty bomb goes off on our soil.
SPEAKER 02 :
Yeah, thank you. I think it’s very, very naive to think that all we need to do is protect our own borders and not worry about other things that are happening in other parts of the world. that would in fact then affect our borders. I think, I think given where things have, have gotten from, you know, World War II to now, I think you’re very naive in thinking that you can just stay out of every single conflict around the world. And we just worry about what happens here on our soil, cut our defense budget, you know, backed by, I mean, some of these people would love it cut by probably two thirds, Bob, when it’s all said and done. And the reality is, It’s just it’s unreal. It’s not going to happen. Proof is in the pudding here of late. Those bunker buster bombs that only we have the capacity to not only make, but then deliver as well. The delivery system is is second to none. I mean, we’ve got the ability to put those things anywhere in the world. And if there’s anything else, Bob, that I think came out of what happened. Over the weekend is not just the fact that whether we slowed down Iran for months or years, that’ll that’ll come out. I believe it’s years, by the way. I think you can see some of the images and we’ll talk about some of that, I’m guessing today as well. But I think it’s longer than what the media right now is talking about from this leak that that came out. But, you know, you talk about the the things that we did on Saturday showing the rest of the world, you know. You screw around with us and you’re going to find out exactly how big Uncle Sam actually is when it’s all said and done, because we can do things no other country on planet Earth can do.
SPEAKER 04 :
That’s right. And by the way, to the point you’re making there, you don’t think Xi Jinping and Vladimir Putin and others. And for that matter, Kim Jong-un, you don’t think they’re thinking of themselves right now. Oh, wait a minute. Donald Trump does not bluff. I mean, this is about as big as it gets.
SPEAKER 02 :
Doesn’t bluff that country has more power than what we’ve ever thought of having. Yeah, we’ve got nuclear capabilities, but we don’t have what they have to do things on a strategic basis because they just don’t possess it. They don’t. I was reading something the other day, guys, even on just the B-2 bomber. And while it could be replicated in other countries, it can’t be manufactured in the exact same way we do it from the engines, to the skin, to how we do rivetless technology to put it together to make it more unseen by radar. On and on we go, guys. We have technology here no other country has, period.
SPEAKER 04 :
That’s right. And they are taking note of this that, wow, look what the United States was able to carry off, carry out without even having a bullet fired at their planes. Look what they were able to carry out with this kind of precision. And look at their willingness to To do something like this under Donald Trump, the guy is not a bluffer. So I think it’s a powerful message. There are two birds killed with one stone. One, the direct hit on the nuclear facilities. But number two, the message sent around the world, which is to our enemies, I wouldn’t mess with America, at least under Donald Trump. F-A-F-O. Right, right. What – Neil, what’s your take on this? First of all, in a general sense, was this the right thing for Trump to do?
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Yeah. And I think people obviously are going to try to raise arguments that he should have shown more restraint and whatever. But he is a man of action. Pete Hegseth over the weekend, Secretary of Defense, of course, said, listen, I think what we’ve established here is that when Donald Trump speaks, the world needs to listen. And I give him credit. I think, honestly, just a mere fact we’re attaching his name to it. Let me say this. Whoever the sitting president would have been right now, at this time in history, learning that Iran was a month away or maybe weeks away from getting nuclear capability, then whoever would have been president should have taken this action. I also think that it’s likely only Donald Trump would have had the backbone to actually do it so quickly and so decisively. And I like that he kind of said somewhere in the next two weeks you might see some action. And then it was like within 24 hours or something. And I think there was some, you know, military deception involved. in trying to get people to think about down the road a little bit. I don’t know how all that played out behind the scenes, but it was unbelievable, unprecedented what they were able to carry out. Undetected total air superiority over Iran. A lot of that, of course, came about because of Israel’s attack on Iran previously, wiping out most of those air defense systems. But it was absolutely stunning and astounding and i do think it got the attention of the world including russia and china and i 100 supported i mean if somebody says look at i’m going to meet my friend at the bus station he’s going to give me a gun and i’m going to go shoot the governor like right now and the person was outraged and you had reason to believe that that was going to happen then i think you have a responsibility to stop that individual from getting the gun and trying to shoot the governor like you know see something say something this is beyond that this is you got to take action Because if Iran actually got a nuclear weapon, they already said they’re going to use it. They’re trying to wipe Israel off the face of the map. They want to wipe the United States off the face of the map if they could. And action needed to be taken. So I’m 100% in favor of the fact that action was taken and lives were protected.
SPEAKER 04 :
Absolutely. And by the way, when you talk about how some people are saying, oh, he should have shown more restraint, I don’t know how he could have possibly shown more restraint than he actually did. If you think about it, this was a surgical strike specifically on nuclear facilities, and it was done in the middle of the night, okay, after midnight their time. And Trump didn’t go after any of their energy infrastructure. He didn’t go after any of their airports. He certainly didn’t go after their civilians as Iran does when launching into Israel. He only went after the facility sites themselves, went in, got out, and then nothing additional. And when Iran went ahead and tried to attack U.S. military base in Qatar, and Qatar thankfully shot down those missiles, a little bit of damage done, but not much. Trump didn’t even retaliate. Trump was like, all right, that’s all right. Nobody got hurt. I let them get it out of their system, okay? To me, that was showing incredible restraint. And I got to say, John, too, one of the things that – That amazes me here in looking at this is the precision with which we carry this out. You know, Neil mentioned the deception tactics, which were very shrewd. Donald Trump says he floats the two weeks figure out there to kind of catch him off guard. You know, it’s like the person who says, all right, I’m going to yank your tooth on the count of five. All right. One. One. Yank. OK. I mean, so he pulls that deception tactic. They have a bunch of their fighters fly out of Missouri West over the Pacific to make it look like, OK, they’re just running random things. And he holds a banquet that night for the head of AI. And there’s Trump at some some swanky event laughing and joking around. where in between times he’s going down into the Situation Room to see what’s happening with this. So everybody watching Trump from the world is like, all right, well, nothing’s happening tonight. There he is at some swanky event and laughing and joking with people and whatever. Trump played this very cool. And I’ll tell you who else deserves a lot of kudos. I just got to say this, John. Pete Hegseth, for all the talk. about Pete Hagseth. He’s too young. He’s only 45. He’s in over his head. He’s just a Fox News host. Hey, this guy’s a 20-year military veteran. He’s gone through the ranks from infantryman to an officer to a major. He was in battle in Iraq, in battle in Afghanistan, double Bronze Star recipient, double Army Commendation Medal recipient, Joint Service Commendation Medal, Combat Infantryman Badge, executive director of multiple veterans organizations, and by the way, really smart, sharp. Oh, and did I say born-again Christian? So I’m just kind of curious to see what’s all the left going to say about Pete Hegseth is in over his head. Hey, this was a very skilled operation that was carried out.
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Yeah, very skilled. I’ll just say this. It wouldn’t have happened under anybody else’s command. I’ll just say it. If Kamala was in office right now, let’s just say that none of this would have happened whatsoever. And even if it had, it wouldn’t have been carried out in the way that this has been done. I mean, this was, to your point, Bob, very surgical. And for all the people that are coming out now saying, well, did we really stop them? Are they just going to spin things up even faster now? Maybe they’ll get to a bomb faster now. Do people really understand? Well, they don’t. They don’t understand what it takes to even, you know, spin the uranium into what needs to be done to even make it, you know, a weapons grade, you know, material at the end of the day. I don’t think anybody really understands what that takes. That doesn’t happen overnight when you damage or in this case, take out a facility that was doing that for you. The reality is rebuilding that, guys, that doesn’t happen overnight. overnight, unless they’ve got some other hidden facilities around that they can move all of their, you know, they’re not fully enriched, they’re 60% enriched uranium, if they can move that someplace else. I just don’t see that. Now, the bigger question probably is, you know, where is that? There’s some folks coming out now saying, listen, we know there’s, I believe there’s 900 pounds of the 60% enriched. Where is that? I think that’s the next big question is, okay, let’s find it. Did they spin things down? Did they take that out? Did they do that before we actually you know, release those bombs on them? Those are questions right now, Bob, that we don’t have answers to, and nobody should be speculating on that at this point. There’ll be a lot of fact-finding, like Israel will do a lot to find out where those things are and what’s going on there, and we’ll know some of that, you know, in the weeks ahead. But, you know, do I feel like damage was done? Guys, it was done to the point that they’re no longer babbling.
SPEAKER 03 :
Let me jump in, too. There was an op-ed piece in the Wall Street Journal, I think it was today, might have been yesterday, but either way, it said, you know, how do we really know that Iran is serious about cooperating with a ceasefire now? You know, they traded a little bit of missile fire, you know, with Israel immediately after supposedly agreeing to the ceasefire, but… Maybe it was just firing off the final few rounds kind of thing. Either way, it looks like there’s a ceasefire in place now. But the Wall Street Journal editorial board said Mr. Trump could offer two tests of the regime’s willingness to change first. and I like this, said, will it grant the International Atomic Energy Agency’s inspectors immediate access to examine its nuclear sites? If not, Iran has no intention of dismantling what remains, especially since it isn’t clear how much enriched uranium Iran retains. That plays into what John just said. Second, will Iran publicly recognize Israel’s right to exist and renounce its desire to wipe the Jewish state off the map? That’s the Iranian regime’s forever war. If its leaders won’t renounce it, they aren’t interested in peace. So, I mean, it goes on from there. But those are two key questions that we need to be looking at. So it isn’t just, you know, wipe out Fordow and Natanz and Isfahan. and hope all is well, there has to be some level of accountability ongoing in the future. And I’m pretty sure that the United States is going to take that seriously. Israel for sure will take that seriously. And, you know, hopefully there’s accountability in the future that indicates that this was not only a one-time decisive, you know, wiping out of Iran’s nuclear capability, but it’s a surrendering of their effort to gain nuclear weapons in the future. Absolutely.
SPEAKER 04 :
John, what do you, What do you make of the reports that the media right now especially is jumping on that maybe this wasn’t that successful and such? I know there’s this defense intel report that’s saying that maybe it wasn’t as successful as we’re hearing or whatever. But we can’t know that that’s true. All we’re looking at is basically the tops of mountains where the explosions would have gone underneath. But here’s what I find interesting. I’m curious to get your take on this, John. Number one, why is it that the mainstream media and the Democrats seem to be salivating over the hope that this was not successful? It’s almost as though they’re rooting for Iran’s nuclear facilities 260 feet down to still be intact because they hate Donald Trump so bad. And my thing is, let’s pretend – Let’s pretend that this intel is correct and we find out that there wasn’t really that much damage done. OK, let’s pretend that ends up being the case when the dust settles. Even if it was, Trump wasn’t still right to try. It wasn’t still right to give it an attempt and maybe consider going back and trying it again. I mean, I just it’s like, John, they’re rooting for Iran to have come out successful in this and Trump a failure.
SPEAKER 02 :
Still goes back to what we talk about a lot on this program and on our daily programs as well, the three of us. It’s good versus evil, and you can definitely see right now who is on what side. They literally, Bob, to your point, they’re rooting for the evil party here being Iran, which, again, folks, it doesn’t take much to figure out who’s good versus evil when you look at their core principles and their guiding belief system, if you would. I mean, their whole ideal is to wipe out everyone possible If you don’t believe in their way, you’re dead, period. That’s just how they look at it. Plain and simple, folks. If you don’t believe me, go look it up yourself. That’s exactly how it works. So, yeah, Bob, to your point, these are Democrats. These are Marxists. I’m not going to call them Democrats anymore. These are Marxist individuals that want to see the destruction of the United States of America. They don’t care by what means that happens to the point that they’ll even root for the enemy. And that’s exactly what’s happening right now.
SPEAKER 04 :
I hate to see it. Neil, what’s your take on that? Because it does seem as though there’s a lot of rooting for the enemy in this case that they’re salivating over the possibility of maybe it wasn’t that successful. Maybe it wasn’t that successful. It’s like, why in the world would they be trying to find the negative in this? It just shows me that’s how much they actually really hate Donald Trump more than they hate the idea of Iran having a nuclear weapon.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, well, I mean, I think you’re right about everything you’re saying. Let me just add how grateful I am for Senator John Fetterman, a Democrat from Pennsylvania with Jewish roots, coming out and saying he did the right thing and applauding Donald Trump for doing what he’s doing. At least somebody had the gumption to tell the truth because everybody else, you know, obviously is they’re tipping their hand. They’re showing exactly what they’re all about. And that is they’re anti Donald Trump. And in so doing, they’re anti America. Ultimately, how could anybody be happy about the fact that Iran that has intent to use nuclear weapons to wipe out Israel and potentially the United States if they had the right, you know, intercontinental ballistic missile to do it? that that somehow that would be a good thing. It’s twisted. It’s demented. It’s wrong. And I’m just I’m glad that you pointed it out. I think it’s worth spending a minute to just focus on that reality. That’s that’s what our Democratic Party is basically about today.
SPEAKER 04 :
Absolutely. And by the way, Neil, we’ve got a lot more to talk about this, obviously, coming up in the second half as well. Like, for example, the congressional approval. Is it true that Donald Trump violated the Constitution and had to go through Congress to get approval to launch these strikes? We’ll talk about that. And even some like AOC saying that he ought to be impeached for this and an article of impeachment actually introduced. Thankfully, 128 Democrats sided with the Republicans to say, no, I don’t think so, Scooter. But Neil, we wouldn’t be able to do this podcast if not for our sponsors. And we appreciate our sponsors very much like SunPowerLED.
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Continue in the second half of the National Crawford Roundtable podcast with all of the guys. John Rush, Rush to Reason out of Denver, Colorado. Neil Boron, Neil Boron Live out of Buffalo, New York. Myself, Bob Duco, The Bob Duco Show out of Detroit. As we talk about all things involving the U.S., Iran, and Israel. the strikes of President Trump into the Fordow facility, as well as those other two nuclear facilities as well. I believe that this was the right thing to do, a necessary thing to do. Inaction would have been way more dangerous. Do we find out that this was successful or not? Or is Donald Trump overplaying the success of this? Is the media overplaying underplaying the success of this. We’ll wait and find out. Either way, it was a good and noble effort to do. And I think it makes the world a safer place. And at a minimum, it sends a message to our enemies around the world that the United States is not to be trifled with, not under Donald Trump. He doesn’t bluff. So I think that’s a positive thing. But we’re hearing a lot of talk about the congressional approval question. And so, John, let me start with you on this when it comes to so-called congressional approval. Here’s what we got to remember. And I just want to lay this out for listeners who maybe aren’t aware, okay? There are two laws that are on the books right now, the War Powers Act and the Authorization for Use of Military Force Act. Right. Both of these are laws. They passed Congress. They are officially the law and they’re in place right now. The War Powers Act is is not an approval through Congress Act. It’s a notification of Congress Act. If you read the War Powers Act, what it says is that a president is allowed to launch military strikes. That’s right. On his own. What he’s not allowed to do is he’s not allowed to officially declare war on behalf of the United States, but that doesn’t mean he can’t launch military strikes. However, he does have to notify Congress within 60 days, and then he has 30 more days to wind down the conflict before getting approval from Congress. So the War Powers Act gives the president the authority to actually launch strikes against somebody for 90 days before having to get approval from Congress. Then you get to the AUMF, which is the Authorization for Use of Military Force. This is terrorism related. It came after 9-11. And this says… The president is allowed to use military strikes if it’s for the purpose of going after people that we’re connected to or affiliated with 9-11 or to prevent future terrorist attacks. And when we’re looking at Iran, the number one state sponsor of terrorism in the world, and they’re getting ready to go nuclear, clearly this falls under the AUMF. And one final thing I’ll throw out there. When Bill Clinton was president, Bill Clinton launched missile strikes and military strikes against not one country like Iran, but against five countries, Afghan, Sudan, Khartoum, as well as Kosovo and Yugoslavia. And nobody claimed that Bill Clinton was violating the Constitution. Barack Obama invoked the AUMF four different times when he launched weapons militarily into Afghanistan, into Pakistan, into Libya, into Yemen, into Somalia, into Iraq, and into Syria. Every one of those times… Barack Obama did not one peep from any Democrat saying, hey, he didn’t go through Congress for this. By the way, even Joe Biden did this one time himself in Iraq. So Donald Trump suddenly, John, it’s a different set of rules. He needs to be impeached because he didn’t go through Congress. It is absolutely dishonestly absurd.
SPEAKER 02 :
Well, it’s absurd, and they proved that yesterday, and you talked about it earlier in the first half, the vote that they just had. Unfortunately, there are – yeah, there’s about 70 – what, 74 knuckleheads that don’t understand what you just said, but the rest of Congress and the representatives at least understand how this works. And to your point, Bob, there’s been many, many, many different examples throughout the years since World War II. Actually – The actual war powers and the declaration of war hasn’t happened since World War II, yet we’ve had all sorts of different conflicts and things that we as a country have been involved in. And I would argue that in this particular case, what we did was end a war, not start a war. This is actually the opposite of what a lot of people are accusing Donald Trump of doing, Bob and Neil. He actually did something that ended that war in a matter of about 48 hours afterwards. He didn’t start anything. It didn’t get us into World War III like everybody was predicting on Saturday. All those libertarians I was talking about in the first half, they were all claiming, oh, it’ll be World War III. They’re going to retaliate. Iran’s going to open up all their sleeper cells now and on and on and on. It’s just going to be the total destruction of planet Earth. Nothing could have been farther from the truth. Nothing is farther from the truth. And no, Donald Trump didn’t need to do anything differently than what he did to get the job done.
SPEAKER 04 :
And by the way, it was supposed to be World War III when he moved the U.S. embassy in Israel to Jerusalem. And that didn’t happen. It was supposed to be World War III when he ordered the taking out of Qasem Soleimani in Iran. And, gee, what do you guess? That didn’t happen either. So, no, this is not going to be World War III. Neil, I want to get your take on this in just a moment. But before we do, I want to remind everybody that this podcast is sponsored, and we very much appreciate you folks supporting the sponsors of this podcast, like SunPowerLED, like Preborn. Remember, Preborn saves babies’ lives by showing ultrasound images of unborn babies to expectant moms in pro-life centers all across the country. We’re asking you folks to pay for these ultrasound images. So it’s very simple, folks. You can go online to CrawfordMediaGroup.net, click on Preborn, and you can give right there. And what you’re doing is you’re paying for ultrasound images. Now, if you can buy an ultrasound machine, we would love that. Some of you need to do that. They’re 15 grand apiece. It’s a nice tax write-off for you. And you get to go to bed every night knowing that you’re literally stopping thousands of abortions year after year. What a great legacy. Now, if you can’t do that, would you pay for an individual number of ultrasound images? Take $28. That’s the average ultrasound expense to stop one abortion. Take $28 times fill in the blank. Pray about a number. Whatever that number is, that’s your forever legacy of the amount of abortions that you’re stopping. And don’t forget, 100% of what you give to Preborn goes to the ultrasounds, not a penny for overhead. That’s all covered by private donors. So give right now by going to CrawfordMediaGroup.net and click on Preborn. CrawfordMediaGroup.net, click on Preborn. Or give over the phone, and the answer to the phone is 24-7. So you can call right now, 833-850-BABY, 833-850-BABY. Just mention National Crawford Roundtable when you call. And, you know, Neil, when people go to CrawfordMediaGroup.net, they can click on Preborn. We also wanted to click on SunPowerLED and find out what this photobiomodulation, this light therapy, really can do for them.
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SPEAKER 04 :
So as we continue talking about the the attacks on Iran and President Trump ordering these strikes. Let me just simplify. And Neil, I would like to get your take also on the claims from some that he needs to be impeached for this. Congressman Al Green saying, oh, hey, I’m introducing articles of impeachment. Thankfully, and by the way, can I say surprisingly, you had 128 Democrats that joined the Republicans To shoot this down, saying, no, we are not going to move forward with any kind of impeachment. So you had 79 Democrats who said, yo, let’s go forward with it. But what do we what do we make of the fact that, as I mentioned before, Bill Clinton. launched military strikes on not one, not two, but five different countries under the War Powers Act. He didn’t go through Congress. No Democrats were saying that – no Democrats, no media, nobody was saying, oh, how dare he do this. Barack Obama launched military strikes on seven different countries – Syria, Iraq, Somalia, Yemen, Libya, Afghanistan, and Pakistan – And by the way, you can look this up yourself. I just read to you from CNN, September 23rd, 2014, with the headline, quote, countries bombed by the U.S. under the Obama administration. So and then even Joe Biden without going through Congress and every one of those seven from Obama, he didn’t go through Congress for any of them. So I just, Neil, I don’t know what else to call it other than just outright dishonesty for these Democrats and for the media to be questioning whether or not Donald Trump violated the Constitution somehow.
SPEAKER 03 :
Yeah, it’s just annoying. It’s like, you know, the snotty-nosed kid brother that won’t leave you alone keeps tugging on your pant leg or something. I mean, the bottom line is that Democrats hate Donald Trump, at least most of them, and they’ll do anything they possibly can to raise the issue that, you know, maybe he should be impeached for what? For everything. It doesn’t matter what he does. They want to see Donald Trump out. This is going nowhere. It’s a bunch of noise. It’s an aggravation. But let me say something else. January 19th, 2017, it was the very last thing Obama did when he was in office. He ordered B-2 bombers, just like what happened over the weekend, to go to Libya. You talked about this earlier, but the date was interesting, like last day in office. And they bombed Libya. And you’re 100% right. Not one person in the Democratic Party tried to stop that or in any way said that it was unconstitutional. So you see… the inconsistency there, the hypocrisy ultimately, and there’s no logic to what they’re talking about. I mean, some conservative commentators are bringing this up. You’re never going to see it from the legacy media, but the reality is they hold Donald Trump to a different standard because of their seething hatred for Donald Trump and what he represents. And I’m not surprised by any of it, but I also don’t believe it’s going to go anywhere, especially with the level of support that he has received from Democrats. And at least, you know, you might say, well, it’s not outright support. Yeah, but you had quite a few that said, we’re not going to proceed with any kind of impeachment because they see the handwriting on the wall. This was a correct action. And let’s move on to other things. They’re not going to win this war. So why start it? Right.
SPEAKER 04 :
Let’s talk about whether or not Donald Trump deserves the Nobel Peace Prize. You know, I think back to when Barack Obama was first elected. And if you guys remember this, Obama was given the Nobel Peace Prize before he did anything as president, just on the anticipation that he would bring about peace. And he ended up… militarily attacking seven different countries in the meantime. But with Donald Trump, this isn’t just about, oh, I’m a Trump supporter, so give him an award, give him the Nobel Peace Prize. Hey, give him an Academy Award. No. I would argue if this were any president other than Donald Trump, there’s not a chance in the world that he wouldn’t have the Nobel Peace Prize. And I want to throw out some examples of why I say this. Number one, Look at the Pakistan-India war. They very nearly got into a full-fledged war. They were launching missiles at each other, and they’re both nuclear powers. And Trump jumped right into that, talked to both sides, and negotiated a ceasefire between them. He really did actually avert a war between two powerful nuclear nations. Add to that… the Abraham Accords in his first term, no president has ever gotten more than one Middle East peace deal in their presidency, and only two presidents have even gotten one. Everybody else is goose-egged, yet Donald Trump got four Middle East peace deals in his first term, and he’s now working on additional peace deals. Add to that Iran- now presumably is not a nuclear threat, at least for the time being. They were on the verge of getting a nuclear bomb, and that hasn’t happened. And you get Israel and Iran in an actual bona fide war with each other, launching missiles at each other’s countries. Trump gets in and negotiates a ceasefire between the two of them after just 12 days. And so when the dust settles here, We’re going to have a situation where Iran doesn’t have the nuclear capabilities anymore. They are in a ceasefire with Israel. There are already four Middle East peace deals with Israel that he’s already got under his belt. Pakistan and India are not going to war with each other. And John, I got to tell you, if this were anybody, any president named anything other than Trump, I don’t know how this would not be a Nobel Peace Prize. By the way, if I could just say one more thing about this, NATO, even the Secretary General of NATO, Mark Root, even he – praised Trump this week during the NATO conference saying, quote, I just want to recognize your decisive action on Iran. You are a man of strength. You are also a man of peace. And the fact that you are now also successful in getting this ceasefire done between Israel and Iran, I really want to commend you for that. I think this is important for the whole world. And then he also praised Trump for convincing NATO nations to increase their military spending to 5 percent of GDP. And the secretary general of NATO just said to Trump this week, quote, This is something that Trump has achieved, something that, quote, no American president in decades could get done. All right. So peace through strength in NATO as well. I don’t think you have to be a Trumpster to say he deserves a Nobel Peace Prize. I got to be honest with you. If I was anti-Trump, I’d be saying, but in all fairness, this is the one thing he deserves.
SPEAKER 02 :
I agree. And the other frustrating thing to kind of tie into this, Bob, is, again, some of the conversations I’ve had with some of the – Marjorie Taylor Greene, you’ve seen some of her comments have been about what we were doing in Iran and so on. And it’s like we’ve got part of the party even that – I don’t know how to say it, Bob. They’re just knuckleheads. They’re not looking at this correctly. They’re they’re in a way, you know, against Trump. And it’s like, wait a minute. So so you’re saying that because which, by the way, I have a problem with because your guy did something that you didn’t particularly care for. You’re now going to be against the quote unquote mega movement. It’s like, wait a minute. Are we are we in this for the movement or are we in this for one individual? And if you’re in it for just one individual, you’re in it for all the wrong reasons anyways, Bob.
SPEAKER 04 :
That’s a great point. Which, by the way, can I just say, John, I have now caught myself in the last several weeks on two different occasions during my show here in Detroit referring to people as knuckleheads. This is your fault. I’m like, what is with these knuckleheads? And then I sit there and I go, oh, John, you’re killing me. And then I’ll tell my audience, you know what? Inside, you folks don’t even know what I’m talking about.
SPEAKER 03 :
That’s right. That’s right. My mom, growing up, she used to say, Neal, choose your friends carefully because eventually you will become what they are. That’s right, Neal. I know.
SPEAKER 04 :
I know. None of us wanted to become our dad, OK? I never wanted to become John. But, you know, what are you going to do? Here we go. What’s your take on this, though? Nobel Peace Prize. Honestly, Neil, I think a lot of people that even softly support Trump. are afraid to say with their outside voice that he deserves a Nobel Peace Prize because they’re afraid of perceived as now being a MAGA cultist somehow. And I got news for you. My opinion is not based on that. If Barack Obama accomplished everything Trump has accomplished in this way, I would say I can’t stand his policies, but he does deserve the Nobel Peace Prize.
SPEAKER 03 :
Well, I mean, I say this very tongue-in-cheek. I want to be clear about it. But for all the reasons that Bruce Jenner, quote, you know, that Caitlyn Jenner, after the transition, became woman of the year, Glamour Magazine’s woman of the year, Trump would automatically win this if he announced he was transitioning, period. Now, that’s all tongue-in-cheek. But let’s get back to reality for a second. I mean, he’s… He’s probably the most loved and hated person on the planet. And I’ll go back to like the 2016 election. I don’t believe it was. There’s always corruption everywhere. There’s corruption. And who knows? And I’m not going to argue about whether it was stolen right now. But what my argument has been in the past is that that more Republicans came out and voted for him than than ever before in history. but that more Democrats came out as well to vote against him. And I don’t know. I’m not going to argue. My point is simply this. He’s a very polarizing figure. So you’re going to have a lot of people that agree with what you’re saying here. He’s so polarizing. I can’t imagine anybody would actually do it. But I do agree with you, Bob. He deserves it. He absolutely deserves it for all the reasons you described.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, I mean, I don’t think people are really – grasping the change in the entire world. It doesn’t mean he’s ushering in world peace, okay? No. I mean, ultimately, we’re never going to have complete peace until the Prince of Peace, okay, returns and finishes all things. But I’m just saying in an earthly sense, in an earthly sense, there’s no denying the fact that look at North Korea. You don’t see saber rattling from them right now, do you? They’re not launching missiles over Japanese airspace right now. They’re just not doing that. Look at China. China’s like, all right, we’ve been eyeballing Taiwan, but they’re not really moving in any direction. Look at Russia, Vladimir Putin, okay? He’s actually engaging somewhat in peace negotiations with Ukraine, although that’s difficult, certainly. And as far as Iran and Israel, Iran and Israel, 12-day war, and now they’re in a ceasefire. And then when the dust settles, how do you take out Just think of it this way. Go back a month and imagine sitting around and saying, could it be possible that we could take out the nuclear facilities in Iran by bombing them from the U.S. and from Israel and And somehow we don’t end up in a Middle East war. And if anything else, we have Middle Eastern nations that are still in talks with us about Middle East peace deals on top of that. I don’t think anybody could have imagined something along those lines. And somehow Trump has been able to pull this off without any loss of life. And I just I don’t know how to how to say this is anything other than Nobel Peace Prize kind of stuff. So I think he deserves a lot of kudos there. Where do you think this goes from here? I mean, John, your best guess, how does this end up playing out, do you think?
SPEAKER 02 :
Well, and I told everybody on my show that, you know, A, this will all be in the rearview mirror here in a matter of days. If not, you know, right after the Independence Day holiday and we get through the four-day weekend, three-day weekend, whatever it is, rearview mirror, things will be – and there will be more things coming out as to, you know, how much damage was done and this, that, and the other. But the reality is, you know, either way, despite what someone would be saying right now, Iran has been set back, in my opinion – in a great, great way. If nothing else, they have been shown that, you know what, you keep doing this and, you know, keep messing around, you’re going to find out how this ends and it’s not going to end well. I think to the point earlier, it shows a lot of the other countries, you know, our strength and that we’re, you know, to China, to Russia, to others that, you know, we’re not messing around. We’re not dinking around here. If something isn’t going the way it’s supposed to, we’re going to take care of it. I think you’re going to see You know, in my opinion, I, again, never know what’s going to, you know, I’m not a crystal ball, don’t know what’s going to happen around the corner, you know, guys. But in my opinion, as far as the rest of countries are concerned and some of the battles that may have ensued, I think you’re going to see a time where there’s, you know, relative peace for a while. Now, is it going to be all peace everywhere? Of course not. Men are human. You know, we’re all sinful. There’s things that are going to happen along those lines. And just because of what happened this past weekend doesn’t mean that all things end. But I do think that in a lot of cases, guys, it’s going to tame down immensely. And again, we’re going to continue to find out more and more of what’s going on. And then, honestly, what happens next? Donald Trump is going to really focus back on our economy. You know he’s already battling Jerome Powell. There’s all sorts of things going on there when it comes to the Fed and our own economy here. And I think you’re going to see Donald Trump, who for a little bit of time had some other things on his plate he had to deal with. But I think Donald Trump gets back to the task at hand, which is getting the country and the economy and the things here back on track so that, frankly, we’ve got midterms coming up next year, which will be his next big focus.
SPEAKER 04 :
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SPEAKER 04 :
And the ironic thing here is that for all the talk about Donald Trump either being chicken out or a warmonger somehow, it’s exactly the opposite. One thing that is woven into Donald – actually, there’s two things woven into Donald Trump’s DNA, in my honest opinion, that’s naturally who he is. Number one, love of America above all things. And number two, a desire not to get involved – in military conflicts around the world unless it’s absolutely necessary to save lives in America and Israel and around the rest of the world. And in that regard, I think Trump’s doing a great job in this. I really do. Even though I didn’t like him using the F-bomb on TV the other day when he was upset with Israel. He was wrong about that. But still, I think some people see a kind of authenticity that comes out of him that what he’s thinking he says.
SPEAKER 02 :
Showed you his frustration with those two countries not abiding by what he had set up for them to do.
SPEAKER 04 :
I know, and you know what? And I agree with you.
SPEAKER 02 :
I wouldn’t have said that because that’s not the language that I use, but reality, Bob, is I think he made his point.
SPEAKER 04 :
You know what? He did, and I think people appreciate going, you know what? What he thinks is what he says.
SPEAKER 02 :
And by the way, he was correct in what he said. These guys have no idea what they’re doing. They’ve been at this now for X amount of days, and the reality is they don’t know what they’re doing.
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, you know what? Next time if Trump says, you know what, these guys are just being knuckleheads, then we know that he’s listening to your show. There we go. There in Denver. Folks, it is John Rush, Rush to Reason out of Denver, Colorado. Neil Boron, Neil Boron live out of Buffalo, New York. Myself, Bob Duco, The Bob Duco Show. out of Detroit. It’s always great having you folks listen to us. Thank you so much. Go to CrawfordMediaGroup.net and click on Preborn. Click on SunPowerLED. Get some information about these great organizations from them. We look forward to next week and our special July 4th podcast episode. And John, Neil, great talking with you guys. Thanks a lot.
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