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HR1 Encore Presentation of July 31, 2025 (8-28-25) by John Rush
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And happy Thursday. Welcome Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. As normal today, we actually have Dr. Kelly Victory and Steve House both with us today. So, Dr. Kelly, how are you?
SPEAKER 03 :
Hey, happy to be back. I missed being with you guys last week.
SPEAKER 12 :
We missed you as well. Steve, also welcome.
SPEAKER 08 :
There’s nothing normal about a conversation with Kelly Victory and Steve House, John.
SPEAKER 12 :
Not after five years, never will be. Very, very true. Good point. Those of you listening, by the way, for what Steve just said a moment ago. Yes, we’ve been doing this in this hour for five years plus now since really August of COVID. And Dr. Kelly Victory was really put together by. Steve, Steve, you’re the one that really made all this happen. So thank you for doing that. And those of you listening, you can find more about Dr. Kelly on our Web site. Just go to Rush to Reason dot com. We’ve been doing it for a while. And in turn, I thought I thought we’d start with this because I just I didn’t notice this earlier this morning. I don’t know why. I don’t know why I didn’t pick up on this. But President Trump, he invited some athletes to the White House because he’s reinstating the presidential fitness test. Dr. Kelly, do you want to talk about that for a moment?
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, the presidential fitness test was something that I don’t know when it was actually instituted, but it was certainly back probably in the 50s and was something that was very, very important.
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1956.
SPEAKER 12 :
You were very close, Dr. Kelly.
SPEAKER 04 :
I know. Okay. I figured it was the 50s because I knew it certainly was well in place when I was growing up. And the standards for that have long since gone by. We talk commonly about the ill health of Americans. The fact that, for example, 40% of all adolescents right now are pre-diabetic. Think about that. Most adolescents, most high schoolers could not meet the criteria to join our military. And that is what the presidential fitness test is based on. So I am thrilled to hear that he is bringing that back. I don’t know which athletes were going to go and participate. I would have loved to have gone myself. But it includes some of the basic things, you know, doing X number of sit-ups in a particular period of time, being able to do X number of pull-ups, being able to run a mile or a half mile. That’s right, one mile. Yeah, and we have left those guidelines behind not only just, you know, for the general public, but also, frankly, I hate to say it, for our law enforcement. I don’t know what it looks like, how many friends you have in law enforcement, but I can tell you, when I meet and talk to police officers and sheriffs around the country, I am shocked sometimes thinking, this person couldn’t run a mile, period, in any period of time. I think that it’s super important, and I’m hoping that Robert Kennedy Jr. has had some input in motivating the president to actually refocus on these fitness guidelines. I’ve said many times, including on this show, that one of the simplest things we could do to improve the health of Americans, to truly make America healthy again, would be to reinstitute physical education class, what we call gym class, in the school system. When I was growing up, it was four days a week when I was in grade school. And that was in addition to the 45 minutes or whatever that you had on the playground at recess at one time. So you got physical activity every single day incorporated into your life. school curriculum. And that, I think, would be a great start.
SPEAKER 12 :
Steve, it started in 1956. It ended in the 2012-2013 school year. That’s when it was retired. So it’s been roughly 20 to 23 years since we’ve done that. Literally an entire generation plus, to Dr. Kelly’s point, Steve, have not had this.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, and I’m sitting in an airport this afternoon, so you can tell here that it definitely went out of style a while ago. One of the things I – and I think it’s a great point, Kelly, because what I think we ought to do is if we’re going to reinstitute it, let’s reinstitute it with the following additional criteria, which says if you’re going to put something – kind of the market that can be consumed by a human being, there needs to be some scoring at least on how it will affect your ability to pass the fitness test. Okay. And so people have this an awareness, right? I mean, that may be a little more complicated than people want, but the bottom line is, you know, if it’s going to affect your ability to pass the fitness test, then that means that, you know, it probably should be at least a warning, if not something more. And secondly, let’s use the patient incentive stuff we talked about from Singapore back in 2020 in our healthcare group and base it partially on whether or not you can pass the physical fitness test.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah. Absolutely. And I certainly think there should be incentives. You know, in this country, it’s very difficult to, to have a negative, to have a penalty for not doing something. But you can instead give the carrot. So a carrot versus a stick. So, for example, if you are able to pass the president’s fitness test, you get a break on your insurance, for example. You know, you get a discount. I think that would be very motivating to people. I certainly did it in the private sector when I was running health care for Fortune 500 companies that are all self-insured, we did that all the time. We would say, look, if you go to the gym on average 10 days a month, you will decrease your premiums for your insurance by 40%. If you are a smoker and you attend the smoking cessation program, if you’re a diabetic and you attend the diabetes program, and bring in your sugar log once a week to the clinic, we will decrease your premiums. And those things are highly incentivizing. These are the sorts of things that work, and they are dirt cheap to implement.
SPEAKER 12 :
Absolutely. Great. By the way, Steve, fabulous idea. And the question – I’m sorry, I’ll start with you, Steve. The question I have is, okay, we’re going to implement this. I don’t know this for sure because I don’t know a lot of school teachers in the public school system, but I can only imagine today a lot of school teachers and administrators, especially in the schools, not necessarily teachers, but school administrators, hearing about this, now trying to figure out, okay, now we’ve got to redesign schools. You know, Steve, our daily schedule, we’re going to have to do some things like Dr. Kelly just said a moment ago. If our kids are going to somehow now pass this thing that President Trump has just now reinstituted, how in the world are we going to get our kids who, by the way, Steve, in most cases are probably I don’t know this for sure. I can just tell you in Colorado is pretty healthy. You know, considering, as you guys know, you know, considering a lot of other states that are out there are a comparison to a lot of other states that are out there. And Steve, I can only imagine administrators today trying to figure out how are we going to get probably half, if not more of our students in shape enough to where they can even run a mile, nonetheless, do it in a particular time frame and so on. By the way, for the guidelines here. For all of you listening, this includes a one-mile run, pull-ups, a fixed arm hang, sit-ups, shuttle run, and a sit-and-reach, and also lateral iterations are also included for right-angle push-ups. So, Steve, I guess administrators today are probably trying to figure out how are we going to get all this done.
SPEAKER 08 :
Actually, that’s the second thing on their list. The first thing on their list is how to go to court and figure out how many people they can get exempted from ever having to do it under the guise of being biased, right? Biased, genetically biased, et cetera. That’s the first phase that will come out of this, unfortunately. But I absolutely agree. I mean, heck, a mile may be too big of an ask. I mean, for me, you know, Kelly, you were talking about people who are in, you know, first responders, you know, type of scenarios. A mile, no. I mean, you’ve got to run 100 yards a lot. It’s a lot of sprinting. you know, in that business, you know, so I would be happy with, you know, people being able to run a quarter mile and be able to run a hundred in less than like 25 seconds, you know, something that was reasonable from a sprinting point of view.
SPEAKER 04 :
Absolutely. But, you know, the point is, as I said, you know, we have, you know, a lot of people in law enforcement, unfortunately, who are morbidly overweight. They may not have been at the time they got on the force, but the standards have clearly been allowed to lapse. And they do not they certainly would not be able to pass a fitness test now. And it’s no better in law enforcement in your local municipality than it is in the military. We have got to have people who are fit back to your idea of, you know, having kind of a rating system for foods. I would love to see, I think, because you’re unfortunately many people do not read labels the way that you and I do. You know, I read everything about it. But instead, if you could come up with a rating system. A scoring system, right, Dr. Kelly? Yeah, a scoring system that takes into account, you know, a number of different pressures.
SPEAKER 12 :
So like 1 to 10, 10 being the healthiest, 1 being the least healthy.
SPEAKER 04 :
Exactly. Something like that where you could just see right on the front of the package. And it would be something that you don’t even have to really read the label. That it takes into account the number of calories, the amount of protein, the saturated fat, how much added sugar, whether there are artificial colorings or flavorings or preservatives, blah, blah, blah, and come up with some scoring system that allows you to say, look, I just stocked my grocery cart with all you know, all 10s or, you know, all 8s, 9s, and 10s. And I simply will not even take something off the shelf if it’s a 1, a 2, a 3, or 4. You know, those sorts of things. It might make it really simple for people.
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, and the other thing, too, Steve, that that would do. Now, for everybody listening, you guys all know myself, Dr. Kelly, and Steve House. We are not big on government regulation. We do not like interference. We like the free market doing its thing, although… There are certain things, and Steve, this is really right up your alley. There are things that government should be responsible for. And one of those things is, you know, we have the FDA, which, by the way, like it or not, it’s there. And I do think that if it’s done correctly, it can do some things to benefit Americans in regard to some of the things that we’re talking about. And given the fact, to Dr. Kelly’s point, that we’re just not educating people correctly when it comes to what should they put in their mouth versus what they shouldn’t. I hate to say it, Steve, as much as I don’t like new regulation. having a scoring system along these lines that you make people that have any kind of packaged foods, I think would be fantastic. And again, I’m not for more regulation, but we got to do something, Steve.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, in fact, I have this kind of rule in my head about how regulations work, and that’s If the government’s going to regulate something, they must provide some sort of incentive to achieve the outcome that the regulation is designed for. So, you know, Medicare itself is both a regulator. You know, it makes policy. It regulates. It controls what happens in health care. And it’s a payer. It pays for it. Under those circumstances with that regulation and how it controls deductibles and everything else that goes with it, there should be some incentive to help people meet their objective of being healthy under that circumstance. And so I agree. I’ll bring you guys to one other point here, and that is, I don’t know if you know the pentathlon, but the pentathlon is an Olympic sport. And one of the things you have to do in the five piece of things that you do in the pentathlon is one of them is you have to run a thousand meters or 1500. I think it’s a thousand meters and you have to stop at the end of a thousand meters and you have to shoot a target. Wow. And you keep shooting until you hit a number of bullseyes and you do that like three or four times for the, that particular event. So what happens to you is your fitness level. If you’re breathing really hard, you can’t hit anything. And so I think for police officers, I’d love to see it be something like that because it’s a real big awakening that says, oh, my God, I’m breathing so hard I can’t even hit the target, let alone the bullseye.
SPEAKER 12 :
Those kind of unique tests. I agree. And really quick, one thing I wanted to say, Dr. Kelly, is I think one way potentially, and maybe this would then spread into – into other things but if you in maybe it maybe this is maybe this would never work because the left would just throw their arms up because we’re you know quote-unquote picking people out but if you’re going to be in any kind of government assistance and that food is going to be paid for by me as a taxpayer couldn’t we start the scoring system in the snap program in some of those types of areas where you know we as citizens are paying for that food for someone else area my in my office in my thinking
SPEAKER 04 :
No, you just took the words right out of my mouth. That’s exactly where I was going to go next. Absolutely. There’s no question that under the guidance of Robert Kennedy Jr., we are making some of those changes to the SNAP program and saying certain foods simply are disallowed. And with good reason. You should not be with federal subsidies buying things like soda and junk food for your kids. It was meant to as a safety net to allow you to feed your children nutritious foods. So if you had a scoring system of some sort, and even if it wasn’t mandatory, even if it was something that companies were incentivized to do because it allowed them. To be part of the SNAP program, you know, and then you say to people, you know, look, we are not going to allow you to use federal subsidies to buy, you know, foods that have a score of, you know, five or lower. Right. You know, it simply isn’t right. You know, people don’t need those things if they choose to buy that they are luxuries.
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, in the way I look at that as well, Dr. Kelly and Steve, I’ll have you chime in on this as well. Wouldn’t that also, Dr. Kelly, encourage some of these folks that would say, well, gosh, you know, we sell, you know, because believe me, they all have data. All these companies have data on where this food is sold the most of and so on and so forth. You know as well as I, they’ve got, you know, marketing data and sales data all the way down to the zip code area as to how many boxes or how many bars of or how many sacks of they are selling in any given area. And wouldn’t that, Dr. Kelly, then encourage them to make things that would be on the higher scale, knowing that that program then could actually buy said foods? In other words, if they’re a one and they’re not allowed into the program, there would be incentive for them to be. Maybe the score is, you know, you can’t have this on the program unless it’s at least a, you know, a four or a five and then above. So maybe that would be incentive for those companies to make their products better and healthier at the end of the day.
SPEAKER 04 :
Oh, I think 100 percent. Yeah.
SPEAKER 12 :
Go ahead, Kelly.
SPEAKER 04 :
You can go first. There’s no question. If you say, look, if you have artificial colorings, artificial dyes including your food, you are not going to be eligible to purchase through SNAP. So that is a huge incentive for companies to do the right thing. And I think those are the sorts of incentives that should be put in place. You’re not mandating that the company gets rid of red dye number, you know, whatever it is. But you’re saying as long as you do that, you know, you can’t participate. Same thing with the school lunch program. If you, you know, school lunch programs are big, big money for these companies, the companies that provide those programs. you know make a tremendous amount on it but if you can start setting the guidelines and saying you cannot apply for this contract as a you know to supply the you know school lunches in the in manhattan if you have include these things in your in your products uh i and i think that’s what we have to do this begins truly you know we’ve we’ve had so much focus over the past a few years on vaccines and everything that went wrong during COVID. Some of these things that we’re talking about here today, you know, reinstituting physical education, changing the way the school lunch program works, incentivizing companies to, you know, to eliminate certain harmful ingredients. These are simple, simple things to do and will make a meaningful change.
SPEAKER 12 :
Steve, go ahead. I’ll let you finish up. We take a break.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, you know, to me, there’s a fundamental way you can do this, too, which is let’s say a score of 100 is, you know, really good for a month. If you score 100, two things happen to you. One is, you know, and unfortunately, it’s the right thing to do. We tend to recognize people when they’ve sacrificed their life for for their fellow man, you know, a first responder, things like that, right? So let’s recognize the people that score 100, and let’s give them a 10-point advantage the following month. And the more often they get there, the more they’ve demonstrated that they understand the principles of what health is. Quite frankly, they’re going to feel better if they’re scoring 100. So let’s give them a couple of incentives like that and even be able to give them some extra points next month.
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SPEAKER 12 :
This is Rush to Reason. And we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush. Dr. Kelly Victory and Steve House with us. And Dr. Kelly, I got a text message right before the show on this. And this is interesting because I had been reading about this earlier in the week. So when this person… Texted in either they’ve been reading some of the same things I was or just, you know, just just a matter of coincidence. And that is on sunscreen and sunglasses. So there’s been some reports that I read something even earlier in the week talking about sunscreen that really none of it is really that good for you, including even the mineral sunscreens, because our skin is our biggest organ and it’s absorbing all of that. If you’re really wanting to stay out of the sun or protect your skin and such, best thing to do is wear the right kind of clothing, and sunscreen is not the ultimate answer. And then sunglasses, do they really stop the production of melatonin when you wear them?
SPEAKER 04 :
Okay, well, sunscreen, I agree. There’s been a tremendous amount of information that it is not good for you. I think you really need to read the ingredients carefully. A lot of it, people are just slathering on the stuff. Many sunscreens contain toxic ingredients that you do not want to put on. I’m sure there are some that are fine zinc oxide, for example, that you have particularly, you know, if you’re prone to burning your nose or something, whether it’s in the summer or when you’re out skiing. So there certainly are things you could put on. I agree that hats and protective clothing are far better and far less likely to cause you any harm. With regard to sunglasses, sunglasses are very important. They certainly decrease your risk of developing cataracts. Being out in the sun without eye protection is not wise. over a long period of time. It’s one thing to do it once in a while, but doing it on a regular basis definitely increases your risk of developing cataracts. With regard to melatonin, you would have to be wearing glasses 100% of the time, and particularly, you know, yellow glasses that would really block out your melatonin production. And I don’t see that as a problem.
SPEAKER 12 :
Well, and it’s funny you say all that because I’ve got an actual on my weekend programs. I’ve got an eye specialist that’s on with me, an eyewear place, and he’s got an eye doctor and so on. And it’s funny what you say along those lines, Dr. Kelly, is exactly right. what he will say he he you know alan stack stack optical he will say exactly the same thing you just said that you know yeah if you’re wearing them all the time that might be one thing but the reality is the byproduct of not worrying and what can happen to your eyes and so on and i just don’t know how many study there’s studies there have been done in regards to not wearing glasses and then the melatonin sides of things to me that one I just can’t buy into that one, Dr. Kelly. I’m sorry. To me personally, even as somebody that’s a contact wearer, I cannot go without wearing them if I’m outside. It just kills my eyes.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, I think the bigger issue to decreasing melatonin production is screen time. Watching the blue light that’s emitted from screens, whether it’s your computer, your iPad, your cell phone, that does much, much more to decrease melatonin production and is associated with a lot of the sleep disturbance that we see in people who spend a tremendous amount of time on their screens, particularly in the three hours prior to going to bed. I would not be concerned about sunglasses having that effect.
SPEAKER 12 :
Steve, have you heard? I mean, you’re on that side and read a lot of different things and so on. And I’m with Dr. Kelly on this. And it’s interesting that we say all of this because I was watching a video earlier in the week. And again, I’ve got to do some more digging in this to even see, you know. Every time you see a video, you got to go back and fact check the video, make sure that what’s being said in it is actually accurate and so on. But this one was actually talking a lot about what, you know, Dr. Kelly is talking about in regards to sunscreen and then just the lack of vitamin D, which we talk about a lot. Dr. Kelly’s mentioned that numerous times on our program. The reality is, in some cases, people are putting so much sunscreen on, they’re losing the ability to absorb, you know, vitamin D. So at the end of the day, you know, they may be thinking they’re protecting themselves from cancer, which may be great.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, so I’ve got a half a dozen years of firsthand experience each you’re going to Africa and Probably the most the best example relative to Colorado is Kenya because in Kenya you’re somewhere around 6,000 feet above sea level a bit higher than you are You’re on the equator, right? So one of the things we do we do eye care, right? So these six eye care trips are where you’re looking at people’s eyes. We take over glasses of all types and prescriptions. We take over readers. But the other thing we take is about 4,000 or 5,000 pairs of sunglasses because Kenyans themselves don’t have access to sunglasses very often. They either do Ugandans or people like that. But in the Kenya example, high altitude like Colorado, no sunglasses. Guess what? They got a lot of cataracts. A lot of cataracts. It’s a first-hand thing, right? I mean, you know, it’s not a theory. It just happens. And obviously, the fact that they’re constantly looking into the sun, it makes their eyes uncomfortable. It hurts. You know, things like that. So, you know, it’s a good idea.
SPEAKER 12 :
There’s no question that you should have them for sure. Next question came in, Dr. Kelly. This one’s coming all the way from Texas, from Pampa, Texas. On some FM stations in Amarillo and even heard on the Colorado Springs stations, Pfizer keeps advertising saying that COVID is still for real and to get a vaccine. Why do they do this? And are there still this many stupid people? Not my words. That comes from a texter, Dr. Kelly.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah. Well, it is absolutely absurd. And whoever’s texting is certainly spot on to recognize that the idea of getting a booster for COVID at this point is absolute insanity. We have multiple, multiple studies that have proven definitively that the more vaccinated you are for COVID, the more likely you are to contract it. And the reality is that the current strains are so mild, I can’t remember the last time I heard of somebody or had one of my colleagues heard of somebody that even needed to go to the hospital with COVID, let alone got significantly sick or was admitted to the hospital. It is a common cold. It is here to stay. The shots do not prevent you from contracting it. They increase your risk of contracting it. They do not keep you from spreading COVID to others. That was, you know, we’ve debunked that a long time ago. And the shots are replete with untold harms that have happened. They should have been pulled from the market a long time ago. And there’s absolutely zero indication for anybody to receive one.
SPEAKER 12 :
All right. Next question that came in, does wearing… Wait, wait, wait.
SPEAKER 08 :
Go ahead, Steve.
SPEAKER 12 :
Go ahead. Jump in. Wait.
SPEAKER 08 :
So one of the things that concerned me this week about the COVID shots, as much as anything I’ve seen recently, is Deion Sanders… promoted COVID vaccinations when they came out, just had a bladder removal because he had arterial and venous clotting in his body, which is apparently, Kelly, very unusual. So I wanted to, I mean, we’re not his doctor, but my God, when you take a guy that’s in his 50s, maybe early 50s, getting to that level of problem with his blood vessels clotting and plugging both arterial and venous, do we not have some concern that the COVID vaccine was a factor?
SPEAKER 04 :
Well, Deion Sanders tragically has had multiple, multiple problems. As you said, he had massive blood clots followed by a very, very aggressive invasive bladder cancer that caused him to have his bladder removed. very, very unusual. You know, the rates of turbo cancers, these cancers, I, on a daily basis, deal with patients who have cancers that are so aggressive and so unusual. I just spoke to a woman, a new patient this morning, or over an hour, multiply vaccinated, multiply boosted. All of a sudden, She gets her routine mammograms every year, and all of a sudden she went from a negative mammogram last year to tumors in both breasts, totally different types of tumors, five different cell types in these malignant tumors. This is unheard of. The oncologists have never seen it before. They have no idea how to treat her. They don’t know what chemotherapy agent because she has five different types of breast cancer. Wow. In a year.
SPEAKER 05 :
Wow.
SPEAKER 04 :
I mean, this is just absolute insanity. It is clearly representative of a DNA disruption. And we are seeing this all the time. These are not just one offs. We are seeing, you know, colon cancers in people on the age of 30. unheard of before, aggressive melanomas and lymphomas in people, lung cancers in non-smokers in their 40s. I mean, these are just not the sorts of things we’ve seen. And unfortunately, it’s going to continue because of the nature of cancer, the time it takes to develop. These are going to continue, I fear, for quite some time. And they are continuing to see people who are developing blood clots and myocarditis and those sorts of things. We just had a report that we talked about, I believe, a week or so ago about the elimination of 8% of the eye cells in the cornea that are not renewable within a matter of days after receiving these shots. I mean, it just goes on and on.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yeah, not good. Okay, next question. And this one, I’ve never heard this one before. So does not wearing sunglasses in the a.m. help the body absorb vitamin D? Again, you’re the doctor, Dr. Kelly, but I don’t see how that would make any difference.
SPEAKER 04 :
No, vitamin D is made in the skin. So what needs to be exposed to the sun is your skin, not the back of your eye, your retina. So I would, again, I would promote wearing sunglasses as much as possible. It decreases your risk of developing cataracts. It also, by the way, decreases things like crow’s feet because you don’t squint. So you don’t get gross heat as early. But your vitamin D is created in the skin. Unfortunately, most people cannot get enough sun and create enough vitamin D to get your level where it needs to be. And furthermore, you don’t get enough in the fortification of foods. The best thing to do, and most people, the vast majority of people need to supplement vitamin D. We know that 80 percent of black skinned people are vitamin D deficient. 50 percent of Latinos are and more than 35 percent of Caucasians are vitamin D deficient. The levels we’ve been recommending in years past have been woefully low. What they consider to be, quote, normal levels. between 20 and 50 nanograms per milliliter on a blood test is too low. We really want that level to be 80 to 90 for most people to be protected against everything from COVID viral infections and cancer.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yep. And really quick along those lines, because I just had all my blood work done. Dr. Scott did all of that. And you guys know, because you all know how much I actually leave and go to nice warm places where I get lots of sun and do all sorts of things that way on the weekends and especially in the summertime. I am outside. I am working. I am doing all sorts of things around the house. And, you know, I am outside, Dr. Kelly and Steve, probably more than… Then, I mean, unless I worked outside for a living, you know, I’m outside way more than probably the average person is. And with all of that, Dr. Scott still wants because I’m about 20 points low on the scale you just said, which isn’t detrimental by any means. I’m still better than probably 95 percent of the rest of the country, by the way. But he still wants me to be a little higher, showing that even those of you that get a ton of sun still need to supplement.
SPEAKER 04 :
Absolutely. Go ahead, Kelly.
SPEAKER 08 :
I was going to say a couple questions on the one. Go ahead, Kelly. Ladies first.
SPEAKER 04 :
That’s exactly why people need to supplement. As I said, you simply cannot get enough from sun and from foods, even if you believe you’re somebody who’s outside all the time. Go ahead, Steve. Sorry.
SPEAKER 08 :
And this is going to be a question to you, Kelly. My understanding is, that the difference in the amount of sun you absorb in the form of vitamin D when you’re at high altitude versus low altitude is very different. And it’s not better at high altitude. It’s actually worse. And the second thing is a lot of people don’t realize this. This is how I do it, John, is I take 50,000 units of D3 on Sunday. And I do it every Sunday. You don’t have to take it every day. You can take fairly large quantities of it, and that will be effective. Now, I talked to Dr. Faulkner, and my recommendation for you was a Speedo and Time Out in the Sun. That’s it. Now, Mrs. Rush called me on that one.
SPEAKER 12 :
There we go. There we go. That’s awesome. No, I mean, really, it’s in all seriousness. I mean, that’s an area where, and I really felt like, and I’ll be quite honest with you, Dr. Kelly and Steve, both, I really felt like that, okay, I’m outside a lot, and I’m outside a lot of times with, you know, shirt off, wearing a pair of shorts. I mean, I’m working outside. I’m hot. It’s sweaty. You know, I know I need the vitamin D, so it’s not bothering me. I’m not getting sunburned, anything along those lines. I’m all good. Not a problem. Figure I’m getting plenty of sun throughout the weekends. And especially, by the way, when I did the blood test, it was literally not that long after being on a vacation where I was in the sun and all of that. So I really felt like then I’d come back and be really good, Dr. Kelly. And again, it’s not that I’m bad. It’s not that I’m in some sort of a detrimental low phase or low stage or anything like that, but just not where that sweet spot needs to be, meaning I need to supplement some. And again, it just shows you that, and Steve’s probably right, our elevation’s probably not helping either. But at the end of the day, everybody out there, myself included, has to supplement.
SPEAKER 04 :
Absolutely, and the only way to know exactly how much you need to supplement is to get a blood test. It’s very simple. There are great algorithms. If you tell me that your blood level is 30 or 40 or 60, I could tell you exactly what you need to take for a period of three months to get it up to that sweet spot between 80 and 90. I actually keep mine right around 100. I even go over 100 occasionally. I think on my last blood test, I was at 108. It doesn’t worry me a bit.
SPEAKER 12 :
Is there any harm in having it be high, Dr. Kelly?
SPEAKER 04 :
Yes, you can get. I mean, theoretically, John, you can get vitamin D toxicity. Vitamin D is one of the four vitamins that is fat soluble. K, A, D and E are soluble in your fat. And so you therefore you do not urinate out excess the way you do with vitamin C. You can’t overdose on vitamin C. You just would eliminate it through urination. Not the case with vitamin D. That said, I have never, in 35 years of practicing medicine, I have never seen nor have I heard of a case of vitamin D toxicity. You would have to get very, very high and take tremendous amounts. Many people are taking in the range that Steve is. I actually take more than that. I take 5,000. My total intake is about 8,000 I use. A day. So, you know, seven days a week. So I’m a little over. I’m at what? Fifty six thousand I use a week. I take mine on a daily basis. Steve is absolutely correct. You can take it once a week. That’s fine because of it being soluble in your fat. So the answer for most people is to supplement, you know, get a blood test, find out where you are. Start by supplementing something, whether it’s 5,000 or 10,000 IUs a day. Wait two to three months. I usually say three months. Right. And get the level checked again and see where you are.
SPEAKER 12 :
Perfect. All right.
SPEAKER 04 :
But you really want to be aiming for that 80 to 90 range. Okay.
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You’re listening to an encore segment of Rush to Reason with John Rush on KLZ 560.
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The best export we have is common sense. You’re listening to Rush to Reason.
SPEAKER 12 :
All right. Just had a call, by the way, that said this is one of the best programs ever when it comes to common sense advice. We’re not doing it any kind of a, you know, scare tactic way, but just giving out solid advice for folks to listen to. So thank you, by the way, for that. Thank you, Dr. Kelly and Steve as well. Question came in, Dr. Kelly, a moment ago. Wanted to know if we could talk about the self-replicating vaccines. And that’s I don’t know that we’ve talked about that.
SPEAKER 05 :
Very interesting.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, it’s a complex. Certainly, I’m happy to touch on it. It’s very complicated, but also very concerning. Self-replicating vaccines, unfortunately, this again goes down with both RNA. When you start messing with the genetics and you start implanting into people a way for them to replicate something, It’s not dissimilar from what happened with the COVID vaccines. You give the individual a blueprint, an instruction manual to start creating something that it didn’t create before. So it becomes self-replicating. In the case of the COVID shots. what the instructions were to start creating a spike protein. That is something that your body previously did not know how to do, nor would it want to do it. You got injected with something that gave the genetic instruction manual that tells every cell in your body, every one of them, start cranking out these spike proteins. And so they are looking at doing this with many other vaccines. They’re doing it with pet vaccines as well. And it’s very concerning again, because there is no off switch. And furthermore, people are concerned, you know, people who have a much deeper understanding of the science behind this are concerned about the issue of vaccine shedding, particularly with these self-replicating vaccines, because there’s no off switch. There’s no way to control it. There’s no way to know how much any individual will produce. And it’s quite variable person to person. It’s one of the theories about why some people have horrific bad side effects to the COVID vaccine and other people seem to have dodged a bullet. It all depends on how much of the spike protein. By the way, that same patient that I was talking about this morning who has these six different cell types of breast cancer, her antibody levels to spike protein are at 25,000. That is off the charts. In other words, she is continuing all these years later, after I think her last booster was two and a half years ago. And she is still cranking out spike protein, spike protein, spike protein with no off switch.
SPEAKER 12 :
Wow. Wow. That, I mean, and again, really quick too, I just want to, before I go to you, Steve, somebody asked, you know, how much vitamin D is needed? And my answer back, you know, via the text line, Dr. Kelly, was go get a blood test, know where you’re at to begin with before you really go and do anything. And in doing so, you’ll know exactly where you’re at, what you need to supplement.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yes, exactly. As I said, I think for most people, supplementing in the range of 5,000 IUs a day is going to be a good place to start, okay? And so you need to, you know, 5,000 is a reasonable place for people to start. If you find, you get your blood test and you find out that your level’s 35, well, that’s… The lab will tell you that’s normal. But you need more. That’s right. So you’re going to need to double it up for a period of time or take 5,000 units, you know, five days a week and 10,000. But you need to know your starting point. I was surprised. I was supplementing somewhere in the range of 3,000 IUs during the entirety of COVID thinking that I was fine. And I got my blood level checked and I was at like 42. It’s like, whoa, that’s way too low. So now, as I said, for the past, you know, four years or so, you know, I keep my level, you know, hovering right around 100, which is right where I want it to be. But it takes, you know, I take additional vitamin D to get there.
SPEAKER 12 :
Awesome. Steve, you had sent something to us I want to touch on. In fact, I promo this. I want to make sure we didn’t miss this. We’ve got a few minutes left here while you guys are with us. And this is the takeover of the Netherlands and what’s going on there with attorney Arno van Kessel. Do you want to talk about that and let people know what’s going on in the Netherlands?
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah, Arno van Kessel, and I think the other one was, I don’t know, Spatel or something, the two attorneys. But they had filed a civil suit against the government and or pharmaceutical companies who produced the COVID vaccine for people who had been injured. They couldn’t file a criminal suit. They could only file a civil suit. And that happened back in May. And by June, Arnold von Kessel had been arrested and his whereabouts were unknown. Mm-hmm. They knew or they believed at least he was in a prison, but he wasn’t exactly showing up publicly and people weren’t having a chance to actually visit him. But the guys that both guys that were involved in this civil suit against drug companies and the government of the Netherlands for mandating the COVID vaccine have basically been jailed and the court case is going to go on without them potentially. That’s how governments avoid responsibility for mandates of a vaccine that, by the way, 25,000 on the spike protein two years later. They never produced any documentation telling us that was even a concern. How did we ever put this in someone’s body?
SPEAKER 12 :
We did, and unfortunately, Dr. Kelly, people not only did it once, they did it twice, three times, four times, five times. Some people, Dr. Kelly, have probably been stuck seven or eight times. I mean, some of these people that have really bought in hook, line, and sinker, they very well could have been jabbed seven or eight times. Am I wrong in that?
SPEAKER 04 :
No, there’s no question. And, you know, I know quite a few people who have had that many boosters and people are still, although vaccine hesitancy is very, very high, there still are people out there doing it. You know, I have these patients and I know people who are saying, no, I’m keeping up on my boosters. I’ve done well with it so far. And I’m thinking if you’re playing a game of Russian roulette, you just never know which one’s going to push you over the edge. I’m hopeful that they will certainly be taken off. the childhood schedule at a minimum, whether they will be removed from the market entirely, I think remains to be seen and is not likely in my estimation. I don’t think the pharmaceutical companies are going to let it happen. The great news, however, if it does get taken off the childhood schedule, Remember, if that happens, they are then open to liability. That’s right. Because the thing that protects them, that gives them blanket liability, is being on the childhood vaccine schedule. So, you know, once that happens, I don’t know that it’s retrospective, retroactive, I should say, that, you know, once it’s off that people who were vaccine injured when it was on the schedule have recourse. I doubt that they do. But at least going forward, it would mean that if somebody took one and it was harmed, they would have some recourse.
SPEAKER 12 :
Last but not least, and I know, Steve, you and I touched on this last week. I wanted to get Kelly’s opinion. I know we don’t have a ton of time left. We’ve got, I don’t know, about four minutes or so left here. And then you actually sent this out today as well, Steve, on this, I believe, was Dr. Heidi Kessig, I’m making sure I’m saying that last name correctly, talking about a firsthand account of organ harvesting of people that aren’t fully dead yet, Dr. Kelly.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, this is a big deal, unfortunately. And I have been a huge proponent of organ donation in the past as a trauma physician. But I will tell you, we have had concerns about this for many, many years. There are two generally accepted ways of determining death. One is pretty straightforward, death by cardiopulmonary causes, meaning if the heart is no longer beating and you are no longer breathing, we generally consider that somebody is in fact dead. They have no spontaneous heart rate. The other is death by neurologic criteria, and that is not as clear cut. There needs to be extensive, extensive testing done to prove unequivocally that the brain and the entire brain, including the brain stem that is responsible for the respiratory drive, That is all permanently and completely disabled, no longer functional. So there’s a lot of testing that needs to happen. In this study that was done by HHS, they looked at some 350-some cases, I believe, where organ harvesting had been approved, and they found that in a third of those cases, The patients didn’t actually meet the criteria for brain death. Now, whether this was done out of malfeasance or out of because there was money involved and there’s a lot of money in Oregon, I can’t say. It may well be done because somebody in the heat of the moment thinks, look, this person is not salvageable. They have a devastating brain injury or whatever injury, and I have three or four or six patients who can benefit immediately from those organs, that heart, those lungs, the liver, the corneas, everything else that we now harvest from people. So it may have been really sort of a blind spot where they called it too early, but this can never be allowed to happen. I think it’s really dealt a blow, and I’m sure many, many people have gone about, since this story came out, removing their names, removing organ donor from their driver’s license.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yep. Now, Steve, again, I appreciate you sending that. That’s a bigger topic we could get into maybe even a little bit more in-depth in the weeks ahead, although there’s always something else that seems to come up on a weekly basis. Steve, I’ll always let you go first. Thank you so much for all that you do for us. We are indebted to you greatly.
SPEAKER 08 :
By the way, when Kelly originally agreed to be on this show, I had to negotiate a contract, and it cost me three ivermectins, two hydroxychloroquine, five soft masks. Today, that number would be so much higher. So I appreciate you guys so much. That’s awesome.
SPEAKER 12 :
And thanks for the education, as usual. Yeah, no, I love you, Steve. Thank you, man. Appreciate it. Dr. Kelly, you as well. We’re indebted to you as well, and thank you for your time. You’re so gracious to us. We very much appreciate it.
SPEAKER 03 :
Thanks, as always, for having me. Talk soon.
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This is an encore of Rush to Reason with John Rush on KLZ 560.
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It’s time to leave your safe space. This is Rush to Reason on KLZ 560.
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All right, we are back. Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560. I always want to say again, special thank you to Dr. Kelly Victory and Steve House and the listener that called in. Thank you, by the way, for that. I know that means a lot to them, means a lot to me as well. And yeah, we want to give out really great, solid information, especially during, you know, every day we want to do that. But during this hour, especially just because of where we’ve come from and what we’ve done all the way through COVID. And I really feel like we’ve helped a lot of people through COVID avoid a lot of things that they may today have regretted doing. I think we saved a lot of folks from a lot of grief and regret along those lines. So possible question of the day during this yesterday’s during a fight or flight response in the region of the brain that is responsible for ringing in the first alarm bell. That would be the EMEA. I’m not going to say this right. A-M-Y-G-D-A-L-A. Amygdala? Am I saying that right? I have no idea. A-M-Y-G-D-A-L-A. Charlie can’t say it either. I can’t say it, but that’s it. That’s the answer. You guys can look that up for yourself. I guess I should have on how the pronunciation was, but anyways, you can look it up. Today’s impossible question. More astronauts have come from this state than any other state in the Union. Name the state. So more astronauts have come from this state than any other state in the Union, and Charlie would get this one right off the bat. So we’ll be back. Hour number two is next. Rush to Reason, Denver’s Afternoon Rush, KLZ 560.
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I’m a rich guy.
