In this episode of Drive Radio, our hosts delve into the intricacies of maintaining a diesel engine, offering listeners valuable tips on fuel system care and the importance of lubricity. Whether you’re a diesel owner or just love automobiles, this discussion is packed with insights that keep your engine running smoother and longer. Elaborating on the significance of diesel treatment, our experts explain how proper maintenance can lead to a trouble-free driving experience.
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Being an expert on general automotive knowledge, what would the correct ignition timing be on a 1955 Bel Air Chevrolet with a 327 cubic inch engine and a four-barrel carburetor?
SPEAKER 23 :
It is a trick question. Watch this. Because Chevy didn’t make a 327 in 55. The 327 didn’t come out until 62. And it wasn’t offered in the Bel Air with a four-barrel carb until 64. However, in 1964, the correct ignition timing would be four degrees before top dead center.
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All right, we are back. Drive Radio, KLZ 560. Again, myself, Patch Knight from Alltech Automotive up in Fort Collins. Steve Horvath from Geno’s Auto Service down here in Centennial as well. Lines are open, 303-477-5600. We’re talking about, of course, Christmas gifts and items to buy and so on. You’ve got this weekend and next to get done whatever you’re going to do. And then Christmas is here, so it’s much faster. We hear much faster than what… Most of us think somebody texted also and said, can I talk about how to care for a late model commons engine instead of just saying don’t buy one, which a lot of you already own one. So at that point in time, there’s nothing you can do. And I do, too. I still own some of these as well. This is a twenty two with sixty five thousand trouble for your miles, which, by the way, good for you. So, number one, if you’ve had trouble for your trouble free miles, you must be doing something right already or you wouldn’t have had anything. any issues now one thing that you can do and this is true with you know all diesel engines not just the cummins end of it but given that we have low lubricity in our fuel today across the country running a additive whether you want to do it every tank or not is up to you but periodically running an additive that will add some lubricity to it and do some cleaning of the fuel system and such at the same time not a bad idea some people i know do it every single tank Others will do it once every third or fourth tank. It just depends on you and what you want to do and so on. But I would say on this particular unit at 22 model year with 65,000 miles, yes, I would be running some diesel additive into it. And then on top of that, make sure you’re doing your oil changes in a timely manner like you should. Don’t forget your fuel filters and such, which, again, if you’ve got 65,000 trouble-free miles, you’re probably already doing some of those things. Outside of running some fuel treatment periodically, BG’s got a great product. There’s other products on the market as well, but BG has a really great product that we highly recommend. You can find that on their website, bgprod.com. Napa sells a lot of that up and down the front range now. So, yeah, that’d be one of those things that I would do. Outside of that, really, there’s not much else you really need to do. So what is the lubricity doing? In the fuel, the lubricity would help lubricate the injector pump because all diesels have an injector pump that is, and modern diesels now are running that pressure way up. It’s even different than what you used to have in a mechanical pump on diesel. some of the old tractors and so on, but they all have an injector pump, which is increasing that pressure way up there. And the way that pump works, and if you look online, you can get a breakdown of how these pumps actually look inside. Those of you that are listening, you can look at a CP3, CP4 pump and see what they look like on the inside. but they literally have internal components that the fuel, of course, is the only thing lubricating what’s inside there. And when you have a low-lubricity fuel like we have today, there can be scoring and other things that happen inside of the pump, which is where then they come apart, they get into the injectors, and you have big issues, and you’re doing complete fuel system replacements and so on. So the longer you can keep that pump lasting… And the late model pumps are worse about that than some of the earlier model pumps were. Less forgiving is what I should say. And this is not limited to a particular engine brand, is it? This is all late-model diesel engines. Bosch does the majority of injector pumps out there for a lot of diesels, period.
SPEAKER 12 :
So, Permax, Cummins.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, reality is that lubricity is really key in keeping those injector pumps going. So, yeah, for any of you driving diesel engine trucks, yeah, I would look at doing something along those lines. And, again, the light-duty diesels are way different than even the over-the-road type vehicles. engines and so on, way different as far as all of that goes. Now, one other thing you should do. I was thinking about this a second ago when I was saying there’s really not much else you should do. Actually, there is. When it comes to the diesel trucks and the exhaust systems that they have, the DPF, the filters, and so on, and again, BG makes a cleaning solution for those as well. that i would periodically probably once a year run through the truck just to make sure that you’re keeping that system as clean as possible because that’s another super expensive item that you can have if in fact that goes bad now there’s warranty on those not a 22 I believe you’re 8 and 80, so you’re getting up there, getting close to bumping up against the warranty on that. Even though it’s a 22, a 65,000, you’re going to bump up to the 80 faster than you’re going to run out of time. So just something to think about there as well. Somebody said repeat the info about how to repel rodents and keep them from entering. Okay, I’ll do that here in a moment. Let me get Mike in first. Go ahead, Mike.
SPEAKER 17 :
Hey, gift idea. Garage floor mat. I don’t know if anybody mentioned it.
SPEAKER 07 :
They did not.
SPEAKER 17 :
There you go. That’s all I got. That’s a good one, too, Mike.
SPEAKER 07 :
And I forget about that, even though I park on one all the time. And that’s another one, too, Mike, that originally those things were a couple hundred bucks, 300 bucks. I think he’s even the first one that I bought. You can now buy them for 100 bucks.
SPEAKER 17 :
Yeah, exactly. Exactly.
SPEAKER 07 :
Way less than they used to be. Yeah. Mike, appreciate you very much. All right, appreciate you. We’ve got another call coming in. Really quick, repelling the rodents and keeping them from entering the house. And again, everybody’s got their own way of doing this. And number one, seal up your holes as much as you can. If you know you’ve got a known hole, seal those up. That’s the number one. I have really great luck in my barn and even in my garage with the electronic rodent repellents. They’re about the size of a half dollar. You can typically buy them in a three-pack. They’re either round or square, and you find an outlet nearby, plug it in, and it emits a signal that they don’t like. Now, will it eliminate all of them? It eliminates a good portion of them. I’m not saying you’re going to get rid of every single mouse, but you’ll get rid of a good portion of them. Now, the other thing that I still do, and, yes, I have animals, so I use the enclosed ones. I still do the poisons. You can put the block of poison in a little square box to where your dogs and cats can’t get in there and eat it. But for those that the electronic repellent doesn’t take care of, the block will. They will find their way to it. I don’t know how. Must be able to smell it or something. But they will find their way to it. And once they eat some of that, it’s all she wrote. That one is done.
SPEAKER 12 :
That’s a good tip. That’s how I do it. I’m a little more old school. So at our house, we have two cats that are excellent hunters.
SPEAKER 07 :
And then…
SPEAKER 12 :
If they get past the cats, then we have old-fashioned mouse traps.
SPEAKER 07 :
Again, they work as well also. Again, to each his own. The thing about the traps that’s nice is they don’t go off and die and stink. My way, they can. Now, in my barn, it’s not as big of a deal because it stinks for just a little bit, and then it’s not any longer. but i will tell you though the electronic devices that i use because i’m i’m in the you know i’m in the rural area and have fields and things around me and so on and i have used those now for years and have very little problem rodent wise uh by using those so just just a side note jim and centennial you’re next hey how you doing today good jim i’ve been listening to you for i don’t know 20 plus years now thank you so i really appreciate your show and stuff um
SPEAKER 11 :
I had a quick question. My daughter bought a new Mazda CX-50. Okay. And it’s the turbo car. Do I need to be running?
SPEAKER 07 :
Are you there? We lost you, Jim.
SPEAKER 11 :
Oh, I’m there.
SPEAKER 07 :
Should you be running and I lost you?
SPEAKER 11 :
EPR, every oil change on the turbo engine?
SPEAKER 07 :
Yes. On the Mazda? That’s a direct injection engine as well. In fact, Mazda’s been direct injection for a while because of their configuration and what they’re doing with compression ratios and so on. That, Jim, of all cars is probably one of the highest cars on the list for doing what we’re talking about.
SPEAKER 11 :
Oh, carbureting up and stuff?
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, just because the way they handle their compression ratio and so on, that’s a very high compression engine that they run in that, and the way they’re achieving that and such, yes, I would be running EPR in that every oil change.
SPEAKER 11 :
Okay, 44K as well?
SPEAKER 07 :
Yep, 44K, the MOA, all of that.
SPEAKER 11 :
Okay, all right, all right. I just did my first oil change on it, and I already did that, so I’ll just do it every change and every 5,000.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yep, you’ll be in good shape if you do that. All right. Thank you, sir. Jim, thank you very much. I appreciate it. Pat, you want to add any of that? No, I was just going to say, I was wondering how you like that MX-50. We like that car a lot. Yeah, that’s a great car. And Mazda builds a fabulous car, as you guys know. I’m not going to knock those cars at all. They’ve been a great solid car for years and years, solid platform. They do a great job, good fuel economy, great power. They’ve got some luxury features inside that even a lot of other vehicles in that class don’t have. They do a great job. So congratulations, Jim. Do that. You’ll have a car that will really literally run as long as you want to keep driving it. And I’m not exaggerating when I say that. So, all right, guys, we’ll be right back. Don’t go anywhere. Drive Radio, KLZ 560.
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All right, we are back. Drive Radio, KLZ 560. Thanks so much for listening today. We appreciate it. Aaron and Golden, go ahead.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah, on your air filter conversation this morning.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yes.
SPEAKER 19 :
A couple years ago, I took my 2004 Ram 300,000 miles into the dealer for the airbag recall. The closest dealer to me here calls me and says, oh, your air filter’s dirty. Can we change it for you? And I’m like, no. It has an air filter minder. Yeah, why are you even looking?
SPEAKER 07 :
Thank you.
SPEAKER 19 :
It’s got an air filter minder.
SPEAKER 07 :
You’re proving my point, Aaron. I mean, again, technicians even, I hate to say this, even in our own industry, don’t understand what I mean by this.
SPEAKER 19 :
And then same dealer, I have a 22 Ram that I got, a company truck, take it into the same dealer at about 10,000 miles for an oil change, oil and fuel filter. They call me back and say… We looked at your air filter. It’s dirty. Can we change it for you? Like, no. It’s at 10,000 miles.
SPEAKER 07 :
And what’s the gauge say? It’s fine.
SPEAKER 19 :
What’s the gauge say?
SPEAKER 07 :
I mean, I can already tell you on that truck, until it gets up to about 50K, it’s probably fine, as you know, Aaron.
SPEAKER 19 :
Right. So I’m like, no. It has 10,000 miles. It doesn’t need an air filter. So on the 22 Ram, I’ve got 30,000 miles on it now. After that experience with the dealer, I now take the 22 Ram over to Arvada West and just have them do the 10,000 mile oil filter, fuel filter, and just, you know, I don’t need the dealer.
SPEAKER 07 :
I agree with you. I mean, again, as you know, you’re just proving my point.
SPEAKER 19 :
So then… The 22 RAM, I’m on a road trip up in Granby, and it goes into the don’t stop because your DPF is going to plug up. You’ve got to keep driving. And then finally, when I make it back to my house here in Golden, it finally clears itself. But then it has some temperature. It’s got a code. I check the code. I call the dealer, and they’re like, and this is about the time when they come out and say that there’s a sensor missing on that DPF. And so I called the dealer, and they’re like, well, have you changed the air filter? I’m like, what?
SPEAKER 07 :
Nothing to do with it.
SPEAKER 19 :
Nothing to do with it. But so on that Cummins, the 22 I found with the DPF, and, you know, a short trip for me is still 20 miles one way down the canyon and back up. If I all drive and put six hours of run time on it, Watch the DPF gauge. It’ll go into region every six hours. If I, if I just do short trips like that.
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Yep.
SPEAKER 19 :
But if I, if I get out on the highway and do 200 miles, it’ll go 24 hours of runtime before, you know, then it hits this mandatory region. Right. And, and he, unless, unless I hook up to a trailer and really put it under a load, uh, You know, the DPF just goes into regen all the time.
SPEAKER 07 :
One thing you might try, too, on that, because this is something that, again, learned through our BG person that we had on here a few weeks ago. You might try running. There’s a two-step cleaning solution that they’ve got that you can run, Aaron, and you might try that and see if it changes some of that for you.
SPEAKER 19 :
I think it’s just that anymore, if I’m just doing a short trip, I take one of my other trucks.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yep. Yeah. Can’t argue that. Yeah. Sure.
SPEAKER 19 :
I mean, I just did a – I had a job out in Grand Island, Nebraska, you know, a six-hour drive. I drove out there and back, and it never went into regen.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right. Yep.
SPEAKER 19 :
And, you know, it’s just these trucks just, to meet the emissions, just driving around empty –
SPEAKER 07 :
Yep.
SPEAKER 19 :
Just never gets hot enough.
SPEAKER 07 :
You’re correct. You are correct, Aaron. Absolutely.
SPEAKER 19 :
And, you know, I have the job where I need to go out of town and do road trips, so that helps. And I can also hook up to a trailer and haul a skid steer somewhere and really put a load on it. So I think that’s. You know, it helps this truck out.
SPEAKER 07 :
Absolutely.
SPEAKER 19 :
But somebody buying one of these to just drive around town and maybe just haul kids here around town.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, don’t. Buy a gas truck if you’re going to do that, Aaron. I mean, honestly, I mean, don’t buy that truck. We say that all day long, too. These are not good. If you’re not going to haul and do things with it and you need to do heavy work with it, don’t buy it.
SPEAKER 19 :
And heavy work is then, like, going down the highway for two, three hours at a time.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right.
SPEAKER 19 :
Like, just hauling a skid steer around town isn’t going to load that engine enough.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right. One of the things we struggle with, Aaron, and I can’t do anything about it, is, you know, we plow snow, as you know, and worst thing you could ever do when it comes to what we’re talking about on the emission side of the fence. But, again, I don’t have any choice, and those trucks do enough other stuff outside of snow that we need the diesel end of it. And, man alive, do we struggle in that area. I bet you do.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah, yeah. Pound snow, I mean, people think that that loads the engine a lot.
SPEAKER 07 :
No, it just fills it full of soot, and you have a hard time getting it cleaned out.
SPEAKER 19 :
If you’re plowing snow right, you’re not putting a lot of load on it.
SPEAKER 07 :
Nope, you are correct. Yep. And again, it is what it is. I mean, nothing I can do about it. Unless you choose to afford two trucks. We’ve bought some gas trucks for that very reason. The problem then, Aaron, as you know, is when you do have a nice heavy load on them and you’re doing real work with them, the diesel comes in so much more handy, as you know.
SPEAKER 19 :
Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I mean, this 3500 single wheel, I can haul 20,000 pounds around and you know it’s there, but it does it and
SPEAKER 07 :
doesn’t overheat doesn’t you know just yep it just goes and it doesn’t even have a good transmission good for you so aaron i appreciate it thank you no i appreciate that very much just really solidifying some of what we talked about earlier all right let me see if i can squeeze one more in here before we go to the bottom of the hour steve up in mead go ahead hey i’ve got a 2021 chevy with the baby duramax in it and i’m calling about the 10 speed transmission and the uh
SPEAKER 14 :
You can be going down the highway and it’ll jump from fifth gear down to second gear and lock up the rear end.
SPEAKER 07 :
That’s the recall, yes.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yes. So I’m wondering, do I try, if I can find one, get a transmission valve body to have on hand? I don’t know if they’ll sell me one without a core, but I’m worried. It’s not happened to me, but if it does… My truck’s probably going to be in the shop for months waiting for a
SPEAKER 07 :
valve body do i get rid of it i mean i’m probably this has got to be detrimental to the value of the truck it’s not helping them at all i mean they will fix it as time goes by as we know but you know as of right now you are correct and yes it’s going to affect the value of those used trucks i will say steve and this is my own personal belief i can’t verify this but common sense would tell you that if you’re keeping the fluid in it clean doing the services on it as needed I would still go ahead and at least do their software update for now that will eliminate the thing actually locking up the rear diff, which that’s all they’re doing is a software programming right now to help with that. Eventually, I do believe it will need a valve body. You won’t be able to buy a valve body, by the way. They can’t get enough to even handle the warranties. They’ve got nonetheless selling you one. But I would say, and how many miles, Ron? I didn’t ask that. How many miles?
SPEAKER 14 :
Under 50.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, if you would do a service at 50 and keep doing those at 50, honestly, I highly doubt you’ll have much issue with it, period. My feeling is the folks that have had issues, and I get it, some have had issues with them from the start where the transmission’s almost brand new and have had issues. But in your case where it’s gone this many miles, I feel, Steve, if you just keep servicing that, highly doubtful that thing will ever lock up.
SPEAKER 14 :
Oh, well, that’s reassuring. The other thing, I heard you talking about the diesel. Now, this is the baby one, and I heard it’s more like an automotive than a truck diesel, but I kind of went back to work, and I’m doing some deliveries, and I might make 40 stops in a day. That’s probably not going to make that motor very happy.
SPEAKER 07 :
It’s not the same as the heavy diesels that are in the heavier 2,500, 3,500 trucks. So it’s not the same on that. The thing on that truck, honestly, that you really need to look at, and this is where if I owned one of those, and they’re great. We have as a fleet even, we’ve had some of those. The thing to remember on that one is it has a timing belt for the oil pump that’s on the back of the engine that requires transmission removal, and that’s due at about $100,000. So in my… belief on that truck, I wouldn’t own it that long.
SPEAKER 14 :
You wouldn’t want the truck that long?
SPEAKER 07 :
Nope. I’d have it gone before $100,000. So that you wouldn’t have to do that repair. Right.
SPEAKER 14 :
You would sell the truck?
SPEAKER 07 :
Before then, because I don’t want that expense at that timing. At that point in time, it’s a very expensive maintenance slash repair. I would have it gone before $100,000. You said the transmission has to come out? Yeah, it’s on the back of the engine. It requires transmission removal to do it.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, I knew about that, and that was disappointing. I probably wouldn’t have bought it if I knew that.
SPEAKER 07 :
Most didn’t, yeah. But now, again, as far as that goes, Steve, there are people looking for that particular vehicle with that engine in it, and you’ve got fairly low miles considering. You do have value in the truck, and the new trucks are pretty – they’re discounted right now a lot, some good deals on them. So if there’s ever a time to look at making a change, you’re there now.
SPEAKER 14 :
Yeah, it’s hard to know what to get. I mean, I don’t really, I’m not interested in a turbocharged four-cylinder. I think that’s just driving around a little hand grenade. I think you’re working that.
SPEAKER 07 :
I’d buy a V8, personally. That’s just me. Well, that’s what I own, so I’d buy a 6.2 or a 5.3.
SPEAKER 14 :
I’m kind of back to, I just want a key and a heater and AC and maybe power door locks.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, good luck with that. Those days are gone. Don’t we all.
SPEAKER 14 :
Find something old. Mm-hmm. All right, guys, thank you.
SPEAKER 07 :
No, Steve, no, appreciate it. Great questions, by the way. Hope I answered that well for you. Gary, Eric, you guys hang tight. We’ll come right back. I’ve got a review coming up next on a 2025 Genesis GV80. Stay tuned. We’ll be right back. This is Drive Radio, KLZ 560. Richard, you recently drove a 2025 Genesis GV80 3.5 Turbo Prestige all-wheel drive.
SPEAKER 04 :
Yeah, so this is kind of a mouthful, Dad, but yeah, 2025 GV80, there’s several different trim levels to choose from, as you know and as some of the listeners know. Genesis sort of does it kind of, you sort of buy the trim level, right? There’s not necessarily additional add-ons and stuff you do. They’re definitely available, but you kind of buy the trim level you want. And you can get this car, Dad. For less than $60,000, if you want to opt for that a little bit smaller engine, the four-cylinder turbocharged, which still works great, or you can kind of go to the higher end, which is where we were at, which is the V6. that twin-turbo V6, I should say, which worked really, really well. Fuel economy, 16 and 22 for an average of 19. And, Dad, the one we had is right up there, because this class of car, this not-extra-large SUV, but I’m still going to call it a large SUV, right? This larger-size SUV class that doesn’t necessarily have the third row, but it’s got plenty of room in the second row, is becoming a very, very competitive class. It is. Especially in the luxury segment, which is where this Genesis is meant to be. And at $81,000, you would expect that. And some of you listeners, Richard and John, $81,000. What I would say, folks, is look at some other competitors. And for a car similarly equipped, you’re going to be $10,000, even $20,000 higher for a very similarly equipped car. So what has Genesis done, Dad? Well, they introduced this car, let me see here, back in 2021, kind of the first GV80 generation. So this year, not a whole lot’s changed. some subtle exterior um and changes enhancements whatever you want to say it and the instrument cluster is nice and now nice one nice big 27 inch display it’s got a lot of the creature comforts that you would expect on a vehicle of this you know price points inside massaging front seats heated and cooled you’ve got heated seats in the back i think you’ve got cool cooled seats in the second row. This one, Dad, was outfitted not with the third row, but sort of with the… I’m going to call it, and I’m probably going to butcher it, so my apologies, Genesis. I’m going to call it the chauffeur’s second row. And what I mean by that is basically the second row is more of a… Well, it’s more of a you can have it as a chauffeur car, right? If you’re an executive, you want someone to drive you around, it’s got the ability to do that because the second-row passenger can actually move forward the front passenger seat if they desire, give them some more legroom. They can actually recline those seats a little bit. It’s got your color-changing interior. It’s got a fragrance dispenser in it. I could go on and on, Dad, about the list of technology in it, but Genesis has done that. And you see this badge? And honestly, Dad, you see this car, and I’ll say it, even at $80,000, you think this car’s worth a lot more money than that. And they’ve done a phenomenal job at it. They really have some cool tech, Dad. And you can sort of speak to this as far as suspension-wise goes to where it actually has cameras. that search the road in front of you and find, basically, find potholes, whatever it might be, and essentially prepare the suspension for said, you know, for said environment, right, that it’s ready to go over. So, yeah, so maybe the right side is going to go over a bump. Well, it can actually anticipate that, have the suspension system plan for that just on the right side and keep you going as smoothly as you can. And I will say this, Dad, driving down the road in this car, It is smooth. It is quiet. And it’s just something that you get in this car and you feel luxurious. It’s even got this mode where it sets the mood or lets you be in this zen mode where you can sit in the car and it can massage you and it plays this relaxing music. So you can just kind of veg out for a second, to be honest with you. So it’s a really cool vehicle. You’ve driven some Genesis over the years, and they tend to impress every time you get in them, don’t they?
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, you know, Genesis is a brand that for a lot of folks, and they’re becoming more and more popular because you get a lot of car for the money, and I’ve said it numerous times, you know, you’re going to go spend in a lot of cases, you know, depending upon the model of Genesis and so on and what you’re competing against, but anywhere from $20,000 to $50,000 more to go find another like luxury vehicle like the one you’re looking at on the Genesis side. And I’m not exaggerating when I say that. That’s how much of a better value they are than some of the other vehicles that are on the road. And for those that are listening, yes, Hyundai is the parent company, but there is no other Hyundai Kia that matches what Genesis is doing. It literally is its own line. It’s a lot like what some of the other luxury car makers do that are out there as well. So, no, it is not like the other sister companies that are there underneath the Hyundai brand or the Hyundai label, if you would. Richard, Genesis is its own deal, if you would, and they build a very nice luxury car for a very great value.
SPEAKER 04 :
They do. And the other thing is, we’ve talked about this before, they’re willing to stand behind it in terms of their warranty, right? Right. Like on standard, the Genesis warranty, five-year, 60,000-mile new vehicle warranty, 10-year, 100,000-mile powertrain, seven-year, unlimited-mile anti-perforation warranty. This is on top of some complimentary rate maintenance and some service valet that you get by buying the Genesis, which, like you said… is in direct competition to some of the other manufacturers, some of the other luxury brands that are kind of doing some of that. So overall, I was pleased with it. Like you say, business is getting to the end of the year. I don’t know if it necessarily fits your requirements, whatever you’re looking to do, but I would strongly encourage you, if you’re looking for a large luxury SUV or whatever you want to refer to it as, enough for four full-size adults without any issues at all, I would encourage folks, head to your local Genesis dealer, test drive it, get out and experience this car. And if it’s been a while since you have, I really encourage you to do that because I think you’ll be really happy. And when you do that, let them know that John and Richard Rush from Drive Radio and Rush to Reason sent you.
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SPEAKER 07 :
All right, we are back. Eric and Aurora, what’s going on, sir?
SPEAKER 16 :
Hi. Two things, or three things. Sure. First, are there any legitimate ways to, I guess they call it, decarbonize catalytics?
SPEAKER 07 :
No. No.
SPEAKER 16 :
I didn’t think so.
SPEAKER 07 :
Steve, even a struggle for, you know, we were talking diesels a minute ago, Eric, and there’s been some devices and some people that, you know, claim to even be able to clean, you know, the DPFs and so on, and I will tell you, even on those, it’s sort of hit and miss, and most of those didn’t turn out near what the manufacturer of those machines said they would do, and they don’t fulfill it either, to be honest with you.
SPEAKER 16 :
Right, right. That’s what I suspected. That’s why I phrased it as legitimate.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yep. Right. Anybody claiming they do that is probably lying.
SPEAKER 16 :
Right, right. Now, along those lines, as long as I buy a California compliant catalytic, are there any reasons why the backyard mechanic would not be allowed to replace his own catalytic?
SPEAKER 07 :
No, there’s no law against that. None.
SPEAKER 16 :
I didn’t think so, but somebody told me that. No, they’re lying. I’ve never heard of it.
SPEAKER 07 :
They’re sorely mistaken. Let’s just say it that way.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah, they’re mistaken. They aren’t a mechanic.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, they’re sorely mistaken.
SPEAKER 16 :
Yeah. And then the other is I, you know, in the past I’ve told you I have the two Toyota Highlanders 2006 model year hybrids. And at 300 and some thousand miles, 18 years. It looks like I may have lost my primary hybrid battery pack in one of them.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 16 :
So that’s a good lifespan.
SPEAKER 07 :
Not bad.
SPEAKER 16 :
That’s good. Yeah. Now, I do… I did have a load in the car, and some of it had fallen down into that footwell area where the vents are.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 16 :
So it’s a possibility that maybe it was just indicating reduced air flow. So before I… Officially declare it dead and consider whether or not I want to replace it at $4,000, you know, with 300,000 miles on an engine. I will do more, you know, hook up the scan tools and clear all the vents, you know, vacuum any filters, all that, just to make sure. And then, of course, the scan tool I have can look at the individual battery cell volts.
SPEAKER 07 :
Nice. Nice.
SPEAKER 16 :
I just wanted to say, hey, 18 years and over 300,000 miles.
SPEAKER 07 :
I’ll add to that also that Legacy up in Boulder, Josh and the guys, if you go to rebuild that battery, Eric, he’s a good resource on that to help you if you decide to go that route.
SPEAKER 16 :
Okay. He does that. With all my electronics background, I’ve got the ability. I know I don’t have the time.
SPEAKER 07 :
Right. And some of that is even having the right, getting it in and out of the car and lifting mechanisms and so on. But yeah, if you decide to go down that route, call him and at least talk to him.
SPEAKER 16 :
Copy that. Yeah, well, do you have anything down in Colorado Springs? No.
SPEAKER 07 :
Sorry.
SPEAKER 16 :
I live and work down there. I do not.
SPEAKER 07 :
I don’t even know anybody down there doing that type of work. Even the one person I know that I do send a few people to, I don’t think he does any of that. So I don’t have anybody at all, Eric.
SPEAKER 16 :
Okay. Yeah, so I’ll consider that legacy in Boulder, correct?
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, because he’s doing a lot more of that and even getting into a lot of the EVs and so on. So, yeah, they can do a Tesla repair and all that also.
SPEAKER 16 :
Speaking of Tesla, my wife just bought a brand new one.
SPEAKER 07 :
Nice. Good for her. Congratulations.
SPEAKER 16 :
So I inherited her minivan, and that’s the one that’s got catalytic indicator on it.
SPEAKER 07 :
Now you can replace that. You’re fine. You can do that.
SPEAKER 16 :
Right on.
SPEAKER 07 :
You’ll be fine.
SPEAKER 16 :
All right, John.
SPEAKER 07 :
Good man, Eric. Thank you very much, by the way. Appreciate you always listening and calling in. Your wealth of info has helped me out on some of my other shows as well, so I appreciate Eric greatly. So, Gary, you’re next. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 18 :
All right, John. Happy holidays.
SPEAKER 07 :
Hey, happy holidays to you, too.
SPEAKER 18 :
A pretty pedestrian issue, our favorite check engine light. Okay. Okay. I went, and it almost seems like it’s a, I bought my car new in 15, paid cash because I hate car payments. Right. But it seems like every year my car payment is when I have to get the check engine, like, diagnosed. And it’s always, you know, it’s that time of the year. It happened a year ago. And, you know, I went and had them pull the code, and it’s the same code. It always is. It’s P01. 456 EVAP system leak detected.
SPEAKER 07 :
I almost said EVAP before you said it because that’s what it was a year ago.
SPEAKER 18 :
Yeah, and so, you know, the light’s on. I usually, you know, I hate this light staring at me, so I try to get it diagnosed and fixed.
SPEAKER 07 :
Which you should. Good for you.
SPEAKER 18 :
Yeah, and it usually is, you know, $500 to $1,000 depending on what they find.
SPEAKER 07 :
And I don’t remember, Gary, what they find last year. I’m sorry, I don’t remember. What did they do last year?
SPEAKER 18 :
um i don’t remember it i know that they had to do like a smoke test yeah something sounds right and they asked me to bring it in when it was uh less than half full and gas right right um i i don’t know i i don’t remember that stuff but i’m gonna bring it in you know get it yeah but is this my i guess my question is you know my car is almost 10 years old is it For this particular EVAP issue, is it just something that you should expect because things wear out and it’ll trigger this problem?
SPEAKER 07 :
Depends on the car.
SPEAKER 18 :
What kind of car is this, by the way? It’s a Kia Forte Coupe.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yes, on that one. Now, tip for you and anybody else that has this code on an older vehicle like what you have, Gary, before you do anything else, go buy a high-quality gas cap and install it and see what happens.
SPEAKER 18 :
Where do you buy those gas caps?
SPEAKER 07 :
Napa. Or dealership. Or the dealer, but Napa will have that. Napa will have it. And they’ll have a high-quality cap, so buy a high-quality cap. Don’t do an online rock auto, whatever. You’ll buy a high-quality cap, put it on it, and see what happens.
SPEAKER 18 :
I know that they test for that when I bring it in. They’ve tested it in the past, and they haven’t found a problem with the cap.
SPEAKER 07 :
Again, being it’s 10 years old, I would just put one on it, Gary. Right.
SPEAKER 18 :
All right, I’ll try that.
SPEAKER 07 :
Do that and see what happens. If it turns it off, then we’re ahead.
SPEAKER 20 :
Yeah, they seem to replace a lot of charcoal canisters on that one.
SPEAKER 07 :
That one too.
SPEAKER 18 :
Yeah, the funny thing, you know, replacing a cap used to be easy. Now it’s attached to some wire.
SPEAKER 07 :
Got the little tether on it. The keeper. Yep.
SPEAKER 18 :
Yeah. So, you know, for someone like me, detaching a wire is a challenge.
SPEAKER 07 :
Well, what you could do on that one, because it’s pretty simple, worst comes to worst, take a pair of scissors, cut the tether off, put the new cap on it, and call it good. All right, I’ll try that. It’s not hurting you.
SPEAKER 18 :
All right, thanks, John.
SPEAKER 07 :
You bet, Gary. Appreciate you very much. See how that works and let us know. All right, Ivan and Paul, guys, hang tight. We’ll come right back. Drive Radio KLZ 560.
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SPEAKER 07 :
All right, we are back. Myself, Pat Schneipp from Alltech Automotive up in Fort Collins. Steve Horvath from Geno’s down here in Centennial. Ivan and Parker, you are next. Ivan, are you there? I know he’s holding a while. Ivan, we’ll give you one more chance. Otherwise, I’m going to move on to somebody else. All right, let’s do this. I’ll put him back on hold. You can find out, Larry, where he’s at. Paul in Black Forest, you’re next. Hey, good morning, John. Good morning, Paul.
SPEAKER 15 :
It’s really great to hear Larry back on the line again.
SPEAKER 07 :
Oh, awesome.
SPEAKER 15 :
He even remembers me, and I don’t call that much.
SPEAKER 07 :
There we go.
SPEAKER 15 :
Good job. Hey, on that 2012 Subaru I just picked up for my daughter and my little grandson to run around in up in northern Idaho, I texted you about it. It’s a 2012 with 21,000 miles on it. That’s awesome. Nice. and uh pristine pristine condition that’s a little minor hail things but uh i texted you you know whenever i’m not sure i want to dig into something i text you and just like my dad you say yeah do it and so i’m doing uh when i first got this thing i’m going through it and inspecting it and holy cow this thing is really nice i put some sound insulation in the back and And in the back, a little funny story reading into my question, in the back there’s this gasket package, you know, typical MOLLE like a Felpro thing with a big old ring and a couple collars. And I’m thinking, well, what the heck is that doing in there? I didn’t think much of it or really even analyze what it was for. So I drive it a little bit. They gave me a 1,000-mile warranty on it. So I’m doing the plugs after your recommendation. Go ahead and do them. You know, it’s got the brown town car. And, you know, the Subaru is so easy to work on most things, but the plugs are real tight up against the frame rails. I got the passenger side done no problem. I’m doing the driver’s side. I get the front plug out, and the coil is just coated in oil. And I’m going, oh, man, you know, now I got mission creep here. My quick spark plug job has now turned into pulling that. It’s really a top cap style valve cover on that non-turbo 2.5. So I kind of think back and say, wait a minute. What about that gasket that’s still in the spare tire well? I pull that sucker out of there, and sure as heck, there was an extra gasket with the car for that side. Oh, boy.
SPEAKER 07 :
Figures.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, somebody does. I think they call that deferred maintenance.
SPEAKER 12 :
Yep. Yep.
SPEAKER 15 :
But the question I’ve got on that thing, I pull the plugs out, and they definitely look like it had more than 20,000 miles, lots of hours of around-town driving. But all the threads on the plugs look like you’d get out of, you know, like, say, maybe a chainsaw or a car that’s been flooded. And, you know, a lot of fuel residue, you know, kind of varnish around the plug threads, really, really a deep set plug. And I noticed when I’ve had it in my shop running, that thing will high idle in 11, 1200 RPM for like three or four minutes. I keep the shop at 55, 60 degrees. And the exhaust is really, really rich. I mean, it’s worse than my emission-controlled diesel to run in the shop. I’ve got to crack a door right away. But I’ve got no check engine lights. Again, it gets 26 miles a gallon. Is there anything off the top of you guys’ head that would cause that thing to high idle for so long?
SPEAKER 12 :
Maybe engine coolant temp sensor?
SPEAKER 15 :
Well, that’s what I was thinking. Back in the day when emissions and engine management was primitive, and so was antifreeze for that matter, we’d pull out a coolant temp sensor and it would have a layer of jelly around it. But could an O2 sensor with a bad heater cause that and not set the light?
SPEAKER 07 :
I think you’d be getting some codes. Yeah, you don’t find that that often anymore. To Steve’s point, without throwing a code or something, it would tell you that, Paul, typically.
SPEAKER 15 :
So when you get an O2 sensor code, it’s also checking whether or not your heater’s working. Yes.
SPEAKER 20 :
There’s different codes for different parts of the sensor, yes.
SPEAKER 12 :
But you’re saying right now with the high idle or extended high idle, it does not have any lights or codes?
SPEAKER 15 :
Nope, nothing. I haven’t had a check engine light since I got it. But it stinks to high heaven. Yeah. Yeah, it’s real run and rich, which I think explains the fuel residue on the plug. That would make sense. Once it warms up. Once it warms up, it’s fine.
SPEAKER 20 :
What’s the mass airflow sensor on that one? Do you remember? Is it just a single wire type? I don’t remember.
SPEAKER 15 :
No, it’s multiple wire. It’s like a five-wire. So it’s heated, too.
SPEAKER 20 :
Yeah. I was just wondering if there was a little carbon gut on it or something like that.
SPEAKER 15 :
That’s worth checking. Yeah, that’s worth looking at. Absolutely.
SPEAKER 20 :
You can buy that mass airflow cleaner and just spray it. Actually, it would be a good idea just to do as maintenance anyway. It wouldn’t hurt.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, that wouldn’t hurt anything.
SPEAKER 15 :
I’ve got some of that. Good idea. I’ve got some of that. I ran into an old Buick on a friend of mine’s car like that. The doggone spider he got there and built it.
SPEAKER 20 :
Absolutely, Paul. I don’t know how many cars got fixed that way. Absolutely.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, that’s… wild little car and of course being 12 years old i know john you’re kind of objective about old low mileage cars versus new but i was i don’t mind the older ones they’re a little easier to work on i can buy them right yeah no as long and again a lot of that comes back down to all used cars by the way how’s it being cared for absolutely yeah absolutely and of course the only bloody light i do have on the darn thing is the tpms so i gotta go back to the calories yep that’s normal Yeah, that’s a real pain in the neck. And I also want to give a shout-out to local guys. You probably have guys in Denver, too. But I’ve talked to you before about that 07 Mercedes I picked up with 47,000 miles on it. Yeah. The E550 sedan, 4MATIC, and that thing, 380 horse. It goes like a stall dog. Oh, yeah, they do. And I’m getting 25, 26 miles a gallon with that, too.
SPEAKER 07 :
Those were decent cars, actually. Yeah.
SPEAKER 15 :
And no turbo, no timing belt, none of that stuff to – But, boy, I had a vibration in that. I think I talked to you about that a while ago, and I couldn’t find anything in the driveline. I finally got it up on the rack. You know, it’s 4MATIC. I could get all the wheels off the ground, even though mine’s a runway. And the two right-side wheels, I swear they’re bent. It’s half-inch. Yeah. Half-inch to three-quarters of an inch. I can’t believe it drove that smooth, but the wheels that bad.
SPEAKER 20 :
Wow. So the rims are actually bent.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, you know, they have such a high offset. They’re almost flush mounted to the outside of the wheel, and the whole wheel extends in towards the car. And, you know, our lovely Colorado roads.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, somebody curb checked it probably.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, you got potholes here. Potholes and curbs.
SPEAKER 12 :
Interesting.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah, but I found a place called Alloy Wheel Pros here in Colorado Springs. Very reasonable. I couldn’t find any used rims for it anymore. It’s too old. Yeah, and they’ll fix them. Nice. They round them back out about 100, 125 a wheel. Two of them have a little curb rash. They’re going to take all that out. That’s all right.
SPEAKER 07 :
Good. Way less than half the cost. Good. No, that’s awesome. That’s a good tip for us even. Paul, thank you for that. That’s a good tip. Yeah, it’s a good story.
SPEAKER 15 :
Yeah. Well, they mostly do work for dealers, but even my little shop up here in Monument, they come pick them up, take them to the shop. They’ll bring them back.
SPEAKER 07 :
Very good.
SPEAKER 15 :
And have the new tires put on. Very good. Super nice guy.
SPEAKER 07 :
That’s awesome. That’s good to know.
SPEAKER 15 :
And even with my little home hobby shop, they’re giving me their commercial wholesale discounts.
SPEAKER 07 :
Good deal.
SPEAKER 15 :
Alloy Wheel Pros down here in the States.
SPEAKER 07 :
I’ll write that down.
SPEAKER 15 :
Super guys.
SPEAKER 07 :
I’ll write that down. I’ll let you run. Paul, thank you very much. We’ll take a top-of-the-hour break. Ivan, I will take you first as soon as we come back. Russ and Cheyenne, you guys hang tight. Again, yes, somebody texted a moment ago and said, is this the text line I can ask a question? Absolutely. 307-200-8222. You can either call us directly on the main line or you can text us on the line I just mentioned a moment ago. Our main line here in the studio, 303-477-5600. Pat, myself, and Steve, we’ll be right back. This is Drive Radio, KLZ 560.
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