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In this episode of Drive Radio, we dive deep into the automotive discussions you’ve been waiting for. Kicking off with a classic car conundrum, find out whether Chevrolet’s Bel Air really sported a 327 engine in ’55 or if you’ve been on the wrong side of history! Following a lighthearted intro, we delve into the treacherous roads of Nome, where you’ll discover the rustic beauty of Alaskan highways and the engineering challenges posed by the persistent tundra. Ever wondered if your trusted sedan could survive these conditions? We’ve got insights you won’t want to miss.
SPEAKER 14 :
Being an expert on general automotive knowledge, what would the correct ignition timing be on a 1955 Bel Air Chevrolet with a 327 cubic inch engine and a four-barrel carburetor?
SPEAKER 13 :
It is a trick question. Watch this. Because Chevy didn’t make a 327 in 55. The 327 didn’t come out until 62. And it wasn’t offered in the Bel Air with a four-barrel carb until 64. However, in 1964, the correct ignition timing would be four degrees before top dead center.
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Get ready for another hour of Drive Radio, brought to you by Colorado’s select auto care centers. Got a question for the experts? Then give them a call, 303-477-5600. Now it’s time to pop the hood and get our hands dirty. Drive Radio on KLZ 560, the source.
SPEAKER 05 :
All right, and we are back. Drive Radio, KLZ 560. Jeff in western Montana, been holding the longest. Go ahead, Jeff.
SPEAKER 09 :
Hey, good afternoon again. You’re fine. Actually, it’s still morning.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yes, it is.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah. I have a question about the elk hand before I get to my point. Sure, go ahead.
SPEAKER 05 :
Really quick, before he does that, somebody texted, have you been to Nome? Yes, I’ve been to Nome. Okay, so there’s an answer for a texter. Go ahead, Jeff.
SPEAKER 09 :
All right. Is it paved all the way?
SPEAKER 10 :
No, not really.
SPEAKER 09 :
Because I know back in the day.
SPEAKER 10 :
In theory, it’s supposed to be paved all the way, but they’re always doing construction, so they tear up the road and you’re on gravel for a lot of it. But in theory, it’s paved, but there’s frost heaves all over it, so it’s kind of like driving the peak to peak in its worst condition all the way. because it’s curvy, and the road’s kind of rough, and there are unpaved stuff and a lot of follow-me cars. So they have sections where they shut down, and they go to one lane for like 10 miles. So you wait in a line for, it could be up to an hour, and then you get behind a car with a big follow-me sign on it, and you follow it for the next 10 miles, and then… And they do that why? Because they’re working on the road all the time. Because, you know, it’s above. A lot of it is on tundra. So frosties, tundra moves all the time. Right. Like you’re not on bedrock. So they have to fix it all the time because tundra moves.
SPEAKER 05 :
Got it. Makes sense.
SPEAKER 10 :
And so frosties will literally appear overnight too. So you’ll have a section where it can be straight and then you’ll have a bump. I knew a lot of people that would lose oil pans and stuff like that because you get some sections where it’s just wide open and straight for miles. So you’re going to –
SPEAKER 05 :
Exceed the speed limit. Yeah, you’re driving, yeah.
SPEAKER 10 :
And all of a sudden, just this huge speed bump shows up out of nowhere, and you just go flying. Got it. Yeah, so in theory, technically they do say it’s been paved all the way, but it’s not paved all the way. The only time you’re going to go up it is usually the summer, and there are going to be areas where they’ve tore it up to fix the frost heaves or whatever they’re going to do. Makes sense. And the original road went in during the war, and they put it in fast. So they’ve been reengineering the road for the last, what, what do we got, 70 years now? Gotcha.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, so do you still need rock cars in your vehicles? You don’t. Check the lights and things?
SPEAKER 10 :
No, you don’t. I mean, we took a CRV up there, so it had a little bit of ground clearance, and that was fine. So if you have a sport ute, you know, or something like that, which most everybody has, you’re fine on it.
SPEAKER 09 :
Okay. Interesting. Thanks a lot for indulging me. Yeah, I called again, John, because this past Thursday in the Wall Street Journal, I read an article out of the Wall Street Journal. I don’t read the journal, but one of the sites I go to had a… an article that Ford is reconsidering whether they want to continue with the F-150 Lightning.
SPEAKER 05 :
I saw that last week. They lost so much money that, I mean, my gut is they won’t.
SPEAKER 10 :
And the article I read this morning says it’s down because of the aluminum strike, and they’re not quite sure if they’re going to restart.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah. I will be shocked if they do, Jeff.
SPEAKER 09 :
I would be as well. This article said that… Ford has racked up $13 billion in EV losses since 2023. So the old joke about, well, maybe they can make it up on volume. I don’t think that’s working. We talked about it here. I know that we had a discussion years ago when Lightning first came out.
SPEAKER 05 :
This was the dumbest thing since, I don’t know, since… Well, and the biggest difference for a lot of you listening, too, to where I think this is a factor on the Ford side versus, say, what GM’s got going with their electric truck, which I own one. So, full disclaimer there. But I think the difference between the GM and the Ford is… Ford basically took the existing F-150 and sort of electrified it, would be the best way to say that. So they took an existing chassis and some of what was there and designed it in a way where they could get the electric version of the F-150, and it truly wasn’t a ground-up model. electric vehicle where gm with their ultim platform they actually designed the truck literally from the ground up there isn’t anything on there might be a few dash pieces maybe i should say it that way there might be a few dash pieces in the front seats and console whereby it’s similar to the other trucks but outside of that even the back seat and the bed and the sheet metal and the doors and Everything on it, Jeff, are completely on its own. There is not one single thing on a Silverado EV that is shared with any other Silverados. It is its own complete truck.
SPEAKER 09 :
Does it have the range? How does it compare to the F-150 in terms of range?
SPEAKER 05 :
Mine at 80%. So I have max range. Mine at 80% charge, which is where I run it typically. That’s what they say to keep your best battery life is go 80%. I’m 350 miles, and that’s this time of the year. So even with our colder mornings and such, I’m 350 miles. If I go 100%, I can be in the 450 range. Now winter, that’s, of course, going to drop. It won’t be 450 in the dead of winter. But I will just tell you straight up for anybody listening, best truck I’ve owned yet, and I’m not exaggerating.
SPEAKER 09 :
Okay. What about towing? Because that was the big thing with the F-150. They actually, I think, did it from Longmont, tried to get down to Colorado Springs and— and couldn’t make it all the way. They had to stop and charge.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, that would not surprise me. I have not towed with mine yet, to be honest with you, although it weighs enough. And it’s essentially, that’s the other thing I like about the GM version versus the Ford version. My EV Silverado is essentially a three quarter ton truck. It’s got eight lug wheels, 10 ply tires. The truck weighs 8,500 pounds. I mean, it’s essentially a three quarter ton truck in an EV version. So as far as towing capacity goes, put whatever you want to go behind it and off you go. I don’t think there’s any issues there. Range wise, that I haven’t encountered because I haven’t done anything. I’ve only had it for a couple of months. I haven’t got to that point yet, Jeff.
SPEAKER 09 :
Okay, well, I’d be interested to hear.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, I will at some point just to do some testing and see. That’s why I own a lot of these is to be able to drive and report back and so on. But the best thing about the truck, and I’m not exaggerating, and you wouldn’t think this would be the best part, but it is, the turning radius, because the back wheels turn, the turning radius on it is as good as my Chevy Equinox.
SPEAKER 03 :
Wow.
SPEAKER 05 :
So I can make a U-turn or pull into a park. What’s weird with it, what I’ve had to learn a little bit is even, you know, I’m a guy that backs into parking places and things like that. At first, you really have to get used to turning differently than before because I can literally back on a dime. I’m not exaggerating, Jeff. It turns so tight that. There’s times where I’ll be backing and I’m like, oh, man, that’s way too tight. I need to pull up now a little bit because you literally can pull into spots that you would never think you could have prior because the back wheels turn.
SPEAKER 10 :
Will it crab walk?
SPEAKER 05 :
Yes. Yeah, just like the Hummer. So it really is. I mean, for all intensive purposes and the range and everything else, I love the truck. I think it’s great. And it’s fast. One last thing I guess I should add to it is it’s fast. It’s zero to 60 in like four and a half seconds.
SPEAKER 09 :
Wow. Is there… A reason why they didn’t make it a hybrid, do you know?
SPEAKER 05 :
No, GM, they want that Ultem platform. It was their full-bore, you know, EV. That’s the direction that GM has gone. I don’t think they had ever even discussed doing anything on a hybrid version. And, again, this particular truck, and, you know, kudos to GM. They designed a truck from literally the ground up. And, you know, in a way, to compete with the— You know, Cybertrucks and some of the other things that are, well, that’s the only other thing that’s out there. So really, the Cybertruck is what they were trying to compete with. And not that I’m against Tesla, because I’m not. I think they have some really, really great technology. Some of their fit and finish I’m still not a super fan of. But I just can’t drive a Cybertruck. It’s the ugliest thing on the planet.
SPEAKER 09 :
Yeah, I don’t want to drive a box.
SPEAKER 05 :
The thing is ugly. I mean, it’s as ugly as sin. I just can’t drive it. I’m sorry. I can’t own it because of that.
SPEAKER 09 :
And do I have your permission to reject one minor political item? Sure. that I was reading a blog that I read every day, and there was a screen capture that says, Zoran Mamdani is under fire. The avowed Democrat socialist communist Marxist in my book is under fire for charging people $13 per beer at his victory party. Wow.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, it’ll be interesting to see how that all works out out there. I’ll talk more about that this week on The Daily Show. Because a lot of what he even claims and ran on, he’ll never be able to do because he doesn’t have the power to even do some of the things he claimed he could do. Free buses, for example. He can’t do that. He doesn’t have the power to institute that. That would be like the mayor of Denver saying, I’m going to do free buses. He’s not in charge of RTD. They handle all that. It’s the same situation there. He can’t do some of the things he claims he’s going to do.
SPEAKER 09 :
Right. But the funniest thing about it was the $13 beer was Bud Light. Oh, jeez.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, no comment. That is pretty good. Jeff, I’ll let you roll. Appreciate you very much. Great questions, by the way. Thank you. Lucy, hang tight. We’ll come right back to you. A couple lines open, 303-477-5600. Drive Radio, KLZ 560.
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SPEAKER 05 :
And we’re back. Drive Radio, KLZ 560. Lucy and Golden, you are next. Go ahead, Lucy.
SPEAKER 18 :
Hi there, gentlemen. It’s good to have everyone back.
SPEAKER 05 :
It’s great to hear you, Lucy. Thank you for calling.
SPEAKER 18 :
You bet. John, that RX-300 is still running perfectly. And my question to you is, I want to keep it that way. Ever since I had the transmission replaced, the only thing I’ve done is changed the oil. But I’m wondering, as far as recommended maintenance, of course my manual has stopped because it’s got 226,000 miles. Do I just start over with the major maintenance?
SPEAKER 05 :
Yep. And Josh is sitting here and saying the exact same thing. So absolutely, that’s how you do it.
SPEAKER 18 :
Okay. Okay. When I took the oil in to be changed, they had some recommendations. Sometimes these shops have recommendations. But if they’re not things that have been suggested by other shops, I’m guessing they just want to make some extra money on me. Like they tell me to replace the struts.
SPEAKER 05 :
And that wouldn’t be another, again, that’s going to go back in time, just like if the car were 100,000 miles or even 75,000 miles. So the question would be, when did you do them last? I know you keep great records, so when was the last time you did them?
SPEAKER 18 :
I haven’t looked, but I can look back at my records, but it was quite a hefty, Total of like $1,700.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, that sounds right. And the way that would work, Lucy, is, and again, Josh can chime in here, but I would go back in time, see how many miles ago it was. Age isn’t going to change anything on this. So let’s go back in how many miles. And realistically, a good set of struts on that car are good to $75,000 minimum. Yeah, that’s about it.
SPEAKER 18 :
Oh, okay.
SPEAKER 05 :
So if you’ve done them at 150, then yeah, they could be due now at 226. But if you did them at 200, no, they’re not due.
SPEAKER 18 :
Okay, I’ll take a look at that because I do have all my records.
SPEAKER 05 :
I know you well enough to know. I knew you did.
SPEAKER 18 :
And, Josh, I wanted to thank you and Justin again. The car is just meticulous mechanically, and I’m hoping to keep it running. It’s hard to drive anything else after a standard car, after driving a Lexus. That car has just been great in every way.
SPEAKER 10 :
I know. They’re nice cars. Yeah, but thank you.
SPEAKER 18 :
Yeah. Well, you’re welcome, and you guys have been so good to me. You are my favorite dealership and service center.
SPEAKER 10 :
Thank you. Yeah, and the only other thing I worry about on those is the timing belt, because they were notorious for the timing belt. So just, I don’t, I can’t find my records of what we’ve done or what you’ve done, but just look and find when the last timing belt was done on that car, too.
SPEAKER 05 :
So those two things, your struts and that.
SPEAKER 18 :
And what is the amount of miles that I would need a timing belt for, 100,000?
SPEAKER 10 :
Every 100,000 on that car. I don’t like to go too far over it, you know, because it should be on about second timing belt, you know, and the end of the life on that second timing belt. So I don’t know whoever did it last, if they did all the pulley. So sometimes… They just do the belt, and hopefully they did the water pump and the tensioner, and then sometimes they do all the pulleys. So what we tend to see on the second timing belt is if all the pulleys and everything were done, you’re good for the full 100,000 miles. But if they all weren’t done, sometimes those components don’t make it. So that’s the biggest issue.
SPEAKER 18 :
Okay, good to know. Yeah, because I want to keep it running. And the Lexus dealership, when I was in there, said it’s not unusual for them to get those at $300,000. 350,000 miles as trade-ins.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, we see them all the time.
SPEAKER 18 :
Huh. Okay, and Josh, I enjoyed your Alaska stories. I worked for a major airline, so I spent a lot of time in Anchorage, and you may have seen Pan Air.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yep, I did.
SPEAKER 18 :
Yeah, I was lucky enough to know the founder of that airline, who’s quite a celebrity in Alaska, and I flew all over… He actually was a superb seaplane pilot. And Jimmy Buffett, I know, hired him to go down to Key West to teach him how to fly a seaplane. But I loved being in Alaska everywhere. And I think if anyone is thinking of going, it’s a don’t miss state. It’s just spectacular. And so much of it is pristine and uncommercialized, not commercialized.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, and definitely go up there in the summertime, and it’s fun. I mean, I have friends who’ve taken cruises and love it, you know. There’s a hundred ways to do Alaska, but you’ve got to get up there and see it.
SPEAKER 05 :
I agree.
SPEAKER 10 :
It’s absolutely amazing.
SPEAKER 05 :
I went when I was in my early 20s, I should say, Lucy, so I’d love to go back. And I’ve been back on a cruise since, but as far as actually going and spending time and fishing and doing all those things, which you need to do all of the above, by the way. Spend the time doing it all because… To your point, Lucy, it is a fascinating place.
SPEAKER 18 :
I know, and the salmon is so thick you can walk on them. Oh, man, it’s amazing.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, and it’s one of those things where if you’ve never seen it, you have to go to see it.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, it’s true. And you’ve got to realize there’s at least five major climates in Alaska, too. It’s not just, you know, tundra and polar bears. You know, there’s everything up there. So you’ve got to go see it.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, and for all of you listening, if you’ve never done things like that or, you know, the migration of the animals in Africa, I mean, all of those things, Lucy, those are things that people need to go see. They are once-in-a-lifetime things.
SPEAKER 18 :
I agree. I agree. Well, thank you so much to both of you.
SPEAKER 05 :
Thank you, too, Lucy. Appreciate you very much. Thanks for calling. As always, we’ve got a new car review. Speaking of cars and all of that, what we were just talking to Lucy about, we’ve got a Mazda review coming up next. Hang tight. We’ll be back right after that. Drive Radio, KLZ 560. Richard, let’s do our car review like we do each week. And what have you driven lately?
SPEAKER 06 :
You know, drove a really fun car. Dad actually kind of still in it right now. And that is a 2026 Mazda 3. This is the hatchback version, the carbon edition, which I’ll kind of talk about here in a second. This is the 2.5S, I guess it’s a hatchback, and it’s all-wheel drive, Dad. And so again, yes, this is a hatchback that is all-wheel drive with a turbocharged engine, Dad. And obviously for our… uh i guess our climate here that’s a really valuable thing in my opinion that you can have and and yes are you going to go through eight inches or a foot of snow with this thing no you’re probably going to be a snowplow at that point in time but is this going to handle most of what we get here dad as far as that you know a three to four even five inch snowstorm with some good tires on it being an all-wheel drive vehicle absolutely it is which i really really like as far as kind of this vehicle itself dad um it’s part of the the i think it’s a fifth generation now um that was introduced back in 2019 it’s a little bit crammed in the back seat i’ve you’ve been driving around two two kiddos um and they are a little bit tight you definitely gotta especially if you’ve got a taller one you’ve got to move it forward i would be a little bit reserved to put a full-size booster seat in the back seat of this car outside of that that everything that we’ve come to expect from ozden you know exactly what i’m talking about which is you get a lot of really, I think, luxury-type feels, Dad, as far as soft-touch materials. Just the way the buttons click, folks, and I know some of you are going to say, Richard, what do you mean? Just how you push these buttons and kind of it feels, Dad, it doesn’t feel cheaply made. And I just don’t know how else to put it. than that is it just feels really nice it feels like you can you know push a button and it’s not going to fall off it’s not going to continue to make whatever it might be really great in that sense of the word um the infotainment system is easy to use it’s got a lot of standard safety features as part of it dad as this vehicle is priced dad with some options And delivery on here, $33,860. And you can get this car, Dad, kind of starting at just the 2.5 S trim level for about $26,000. And so I would say, when you and I had talked about cars, I think what the average price of a new car these days is almost $50,000.
SPEAKER 05 :
$50,000 plus now. It’s over $50,000.
SPEAKER 06 :
Yeah, and real quick, Dad, fuel economy, $25,000 and $34,000 for an average of $28,000. Does it have a very big fuel tank? No, it doesn’t. But again, you’re also getting a smaller… this in the sedan if you fit depending on how you want to option this car out you can go all the way up to the turbo premium plus dad which get almost forty thousand dollars depending on what you want on the car i just think this is a really great car for folks who maybe live in an urban setting maybe you’re looking to kind of get that first car or maybe you just need something to tool around right and you want a good all-wheel drive vehicle to do so dad mazda if and i will say this If folks haven’t driven a Mazda in a while, Dad, and I think you’ll probably second this, I would encourage folks to get out and test drive them because I think that they’ve really made some improvements over the past few years that not a lot of people would know about.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, no, and I will say this. Mazda’s always built a solid car. I’ve got some really good friends that, you know, Dan, he used to be my cohort here, driven Mazdas for years and years and years. I mean, once you become a Mazda owner, typically you don’t change out of it because it is a very solid quality car at the end of the day. And for the money, I should add that into it, for the money, it becomes a very competitive car. So, yeah, absolutely, Richard. I have nothing bad to say whatsoever on any of their cars.
SPEAKER 06 :
No, I absolutely don’t. Again, it’s one thing where I really enjoy driving this car. Again, the acceleration, that’s the last thing I’ll mention. At this altitude, the looks of this car, it’s a really exciting vehicle to kind of be in and drive in and kind of get looks from people. So I encourage folks that head to their local Mazda dealer if they’re interested. Test drive this vehicle. Get in it. Again, check the room because that’s maybe one of the complaints is it’s a little bit smaller. than some of the other competitors, but that may not matter for you. So we encourage folks, get out, test drive this vehicle. When you do that, let them know that John and Richard Rush from Drive Radio and Rush to Reason sent you.
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All right, we are back. Drive Radio, KLZ 560. Appreciate you all listening. By the way, text line 307-282-22307-282-22. Myself, Josh Goff, Legacy Automotive, Regional Auto Brokers. Lines open 303-477-5600. So, okay, a few things from SEMA show. which Josh and I were at. So for those of you that don’t know what the SEMA show is, it’s the Specialty Equipment Manufacturers Association. There’s also APEX, which I’m not even sure what APEX stands for. I just always called it APEX. It’s the hard part, quote-unquote, side of the equation. So SEMA is more of the aftermarket. There’s some manufacturers that display and so on, although there’s less of them now than there used to be, which I’ll talk about as well. which I think some of those guys are missing the boat. But at any rate, there’s not as many manufacturers as there used to be. And then, again, Apex is more of what NAPA, for example. There’s more of what NAPA sells and their suppliers and everything from spark plugs to wiper blades to wheel bearings and so on. That’s all at the Apex show. Tools, equipment, although there’s a combination of some of that now even at the SEMA show. It didn’t used to be. It used to be Apex. If you want to go see a tool, you went to Apex. And I think what finally happened is some of these guys figured that, you know, some guys only go to one or two of the shows. They don’t go to both. And so if we want our stuff to be displayed, we’re going to have to do dual booths and have some at each, which is what a lot of them now do. Autel, which is one of the tool companies that does, you know, scan tools, and they do the ADOS systems for recalibrations of, you know, your camera systems and so on. Similar situation. They probably had three booths there. They did. Because they had one upstairs, one downstairs. And a big one at Apex. And a big one at Apex. So, you know, those are some of the things that were happening as far as the industry goes. And I will say, and maybe it was just me, I was going to get Josh’s opinion of this, lots of construction at the convention center. So Vegas is redoing the face of the convention center, redoing some of the pathways to different halls and so on. In turn, to go from one major hall to another major hall, you had to walk outside. You couldn’t do it on an inside basis. Right. Personally, I think it took away from the show, and I felt like the show itself might be slightly smaller because I’m guessing there were some displayers, manufacturers, whatever, that kind of said, yeah, no, count us out. In fact, even a lot of what you would have normally seen on the – interior lot space, quote-unquote, wasn’t there because it’s all tore up and there was no ability for those things to be on display. So personally speaking, I think there were less vehicles on display than I’ve seen in the past. Your thoughts?
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, the outside definitely was a lot.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay.
SPEAKER 10 :
And, of course, part of what they call the South Hall or Central Hall there, they had it all blocked off. We had a walkway that we had to go through. Normally it was full of displays. Yeah, there would have been more cars, more displays. Plus there would have been that whole outside area. Because they divided the North Hall and the Central Hall and the South Hall like it was broke up. And usually it was just one giant area between all of them.
SPEAKER 05 :
True. So it wasn’t my imagination.
SPEAKER 10 :
No, it wasn’t your imagination. Population-wise, though, the amount of people there.
SPEAKER 05 :
That I thought was good. It was good. There was a lot of people. Yeah, that I saw. I just felt like the amount of displays weren’t as equal as they have been. We’ve got more to talk about when it comes to SEMA show. If you’ve got questions, by the way, you can always ask us that. Matt Littleton, you’re next, though. Go ahead, Matt.
SPEAKER 07 :
Hello, can you hear me?
SPEAKER 05 :
Hello, Matt. Yep, we can hear you fine. Go for it.
SPEAKER 07 :
Go for it. Okay. Okay. I have, I’m a Geno’s customer. He does work on my F-250. Okay. And I just recently bought an F-150, has about 92,500 on it. And like when I bought my F-250, I had them flush all the fluids, but this one’s a lot younger. And I’m wondering about, especially transmission, should I have them do all the fluids on my transmission?
SPEAKER 10 :
I would.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yes. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, to have a good starting point, I think yes. Now, what they will look at with 192,000 is, number one, they’re going to look at it and determine.
SPEAKER 07 :
No, it’s just 92,000.
SPEAKER 05 :
Oh, 92. Oh, yeah. Yeah, 92, again, they’re going to look at it, you know, kind of give you a condition of fluid and things along those lines. But, yeah, I don’t see any real issues there at all. And I think how. having a nice starting point on, hey, I know all the fluids are good. I know, you know, you may even have a hose or two that they want to take a peek at and some things like that. I would do all of that now, Matt.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, and just take it in there. Okay. And Steve and the crew will do a major inspection, or I don’t know what they call it there, but the same thing. And they’ll just go over it and give you a list of what it needs now, what it needs in the future, and kind of give you a good idea where the truck’s at.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, I bought it from a dealer, so it was bad. They call it blue certified, so I think they inspected everything, but I just want to take advantage of making sure everything’s good.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, and I talked about that a little bit. You’re going to hear that, by the way, on Drive Radio, The Extra Mile. I recorded that this last Monday, and I even talked about some of the CPO cars, or in this case, the blue oval car, CPO meaning certified pre-owned by whomever. And I did talk about this this week, Matt, and this is not to dog anybody at the dealerships, but keep in mind that, you know, that certified blue or the CPO, you know, still being done by people and depending upon what day of the week and what that person might have going on in the back of their mind. In other words, you know, they’ve got to get this used car CPO done by five o’clock and it’s four o’clock on Friday, but they want to see their kid play and they want to be out of there by four 30 versus five, you know, How much faster is that CPO inspection going to get done versus if they’d done it at, you know, 10 o’clock in the morning? And, again, I’m not trying to fault anybody, but, Matt, this is real-world stuff that happens.
SPEAKER 10 :
And what’s the time? Did they pay you half an hour to do the inspection, an hour, .3 to do the inspection?
SPEAKER 05 :
Right.
SPEAKER 10 :
So it all depends on the dealership on that. So the .3 is like it has oil in it and the tires have air and the windshield’s not cracked.
SPEAKER 05 :
And I don’t see any major leaks or anything else that we’re going to run it. So, again, I’m not trying to say, Matt, to you or anybody else, that some of these certified, quote-unquote, used cars aren’t. They are certified by those individuals doing the certification. The problem is there’s no real, in my opinion, no real consistency in how those certifications are done. For example, let me throw another example out for all of you listening. You guys will all understand this. We all know about building inspectors, and we all know when you build something, an inspector has to, quote, unquote, show up and do the inspection. But we also know that, you know what, not every inspector is equal, and some will blow through an inspection and others will nitpick it apart. The same is true when it comes to these CPO cars.
SPEAKER 07 :
Yeah, well, I sure thought Genos has done me right on my F-250.
SPEAKER 05 :
They’ll take care of you. And what they’re going to do is just re-verify, you know, the quote-unquote CPO portion, you know, the blue oval, if you would. And then they’ll make recommendations as to where you should start off with as far as a foundation of the vehicle moving forward is what they’ll do.
SPEAKER 07 :
Okay. Okay. All right, well, I always appreciate your advice, guys.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, thank you, Matt. No, appreciate your call as well. Yeah, and again, I talk a little bit more in depth about that in today’s Extra Mile show that we have from 3 to 4 p.m. You’ll hear that this afternoon. I went into a little bit of detail on how some of that actually works. Again, I’m not trying to beat anybody up or any dealership up, but the reality is, As much as they would like you to think or even the Toyotas of the world, the GMs of the world and so on, as much as they would like you to think it’s consistent and they’ll even market that it is, it’s not. I’m just being honest. It’s not. So not trying to knock them at all. Okay, going back to SEMA. And somebody was asking me a moment ago in the text line, have I ever thought about moving to Vegas? No. No. Sorry, no. Not that there’s anything wrong with Nevada or Vegas or anything along those lines, but Vegas itself, if I was ever going to move there, I think I’d have to look at doing something like Lake Havasu or get out and away from all the hustle and bustle and so on. And now Lake Havasu or even going further south down towards Phoenix area, things like that. Have I thought about that? Sure. Weather’s great this time of the year. Absolutely great. In fact, I will say this. The weather at SEMA was fantastic. Absolutely phenomenal.
SPEAKER 01 :
Perfect. Yeah, it was absolutely perfect.
SPEAKER 05 :
I’ve been there at times where it’s been windy and cold and cruddy, and you couldn’t have asked for better weather this last week. Yeah, it was great. It was actually hot.
SPEAKER 10 :
It was, actually.
SPEAKER 05 :
I took all long-sleeved shirts and didn’t need them. I could have gone in shorts and short sleeves with no problem at all. But no, lots of displays, lots of things. Somebody always asks me, okay, what was the best part about SEMA? What was that one thing you saw that really kind of caught your eye? And I’ll just be straight up honest. Even went through the new products section this year. And honestly, I honestly have to say it this way. Nothing. I mean, nothing really just stood out and said, oh, that is really, really cool or I really need to have that. We’ll be doing some interviews in the near future on some folks that I did stop and talk to, and I felt like they would fit into our show very, very well. So I’ll have some of those folks on, one of them being a guy that actually was there advertising that he fixes older modules and computers and so on, which I know I get a lot of questions on from people. Not only you guys that listen but shops as well because you get an older vehicle anymore. It can only be 10 years old maybe and not be able to find a module for it. This guy will fix the modules and guarantee them and do all the testing and so on. So that was a good find. So of all the things I found, that was probably more at the top of my list of useful things that you guys as listeners even would utilize. Any more, and this is a complaint I have. And not that SEMA cares because they’re going to do what they want to do. But at one time. at SEMA, no Asian manufacturers were allowed. In fact, they wouldn’t even allow them in with cameras. Now, they would sneak them in because you’d see these guys doing it and you’d even see some of them getting hauled out of the hall at times. So, you know, 25 years ago, you couldn’t, as an Asian, you couldn’t come in and take a bunch of pictures. They eliminated, quote unquote, that Asian competition. Well, I don’t know who was in charge or what happened, but lo and behold, those rules were dropped or got laxed. And now there are literally hundreds, if not a thousand. And I don’t think I’m exaggerating when I say a thousand because I don’t know how many exhibitors there are total. A lot. And I will tell you that a good portion of them now come from Asian countries like China.
SPEAKER 10 :
They do, yeah.
SPEAKER 05 :
And there’s no qualms about it. That’s exactly what they’re doing. And you look at their product, a winch, for example. You can go look at an Asian winch versus a worn winch, for example. And honestly, to the naked eye, you wouldn’t know there’s any difference. And I would venture to guess that if you actually took it all apart and laid them both side by side, you might not notice any difference when it’s all said and done. That’s how good the manufacturing on the Asian side or the copying of how good it has gotten. And, guys, I’m talking everything from – wenches to hard parts to the soft parts like mirrors and things like that to even trailer hitches and drops and balls and, and, and, and, and we go. There isn’t hardly a single thing that hasn’t been built by us here in America or even some Australia, European things and so on that hasn’t been duplicated and copied by an Asian company. Am I right?
SPEAKER 10 :
The strange thing is, though, is they are starting to innovate.
SPEAKER 05 :
Finally.
SPEAKER 10 :
Finally, yeah. They might sell some products that they’re starting to actually not just copy but innovate on a lot of things.
SPEAKER 05 :
And again, that’s something that’s – it is what it is. I don’t control SEMA. I’m not in charge of it. I would have probably done that differently, although for them, every booth that gets rented generates revenue, and that’s how they, I’m sure, look at it. And at the end of the day, they probably don’t care, although I think they hurt a lot of American companies that were solid SEMA participants for years and years, literally hurt them by allowing a lot of the dupes to be able to come into the market. And tires? And things like tires and wheels, oh, my word. I’ll bet you half of the haul is China. Yep.
SPEAKER 10 :
Am I right? And they even sponsor, like, the taxi stand at the airport was Ling Long Tires. So they’re advertising, like, an American company now there.
SPEAKER 05 :
It’s changed immensely from what it used to be. All right, more on that in a moment. If you have any questions about that, give us a call. Or any other question you’d like answered, 303-477-5600. Drive Radio, KLZ 560.
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SPEAKER 05 :
All right, we are back again. Favorite kit car is the question of the day. And something about kit cars, too, that I should mention, because Josh, especially being in the used car things, we should probably talk about this for a minute, because these are things that aren’t always given to you kind of on the front side. And here’s what I mean by this. When you buy a kit car, you have to be very specific about, okay, how is this car titled? Is it a new car? Is it an old car? Is it going to have a title? Is it going to have an MSO that then gets a title? How does all of this work on your particular kit car? Because in certain states, that could be a mess.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, it’s like that Johnny Cash song, One Piece at a Time. It took four pages to type up the title or the whole – Exactly.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah, so you need to ask some specific questions on the front side. Okay, I live in wherever. We have a large listening audience, but I live in Colorado. I live in Wyoming. I live in Nebraska. How does this work as far as me getting it titled? What am I going to have to do? What hoops do I have to jump through? Is there VIN verifications that will have to happen, et cetera, et cetera? How is it titled as far as emissions is concerned and all of those things?
SPEAKER 10 :
That’s a real scary one that I have seen is how is this emissioned?
SPEAKER 05 :
Correct. Is it off of the car, the engine?
SPEAKER 10 :
The floor pan it was built off of?
SPEAKER 05 :
Correct.
SPEAKER 10 :
And then trying to get it through emissions, you’re going to spend a lot of time doing that.
SPEAKER 05 :
And that’s where I kind of picked this out because there were some of those at the show and not beating kit cars up. In some cases, they make a really great alternative to what maybe that car would have been, like an AC Cobra, for example, that most normal people can’t buy. I mean, an AC Cobra, if you find a really decent AC Cobra, it’s a million bucks plus. Oh, yeah. So that’s out of the majority of most people’s league in owning one of those cars. Now, I guess if you’re lucky enough to find an old barn find somewhere and no one had any idea what it was worth, I mean, okay, if you stumble across that and don’t buy it, you’re an idiot. Buy it if it’s the right kind of price because you could even flip it in the condition it’s in and make money if it’s an original. In fact, don’t touch the car you’re better off not on one of those. That’s one of those examples of, no, you don’t restore that car. You clean it up. You make it better, but you resell what you have if that’s the path you’re going down, and you don’t screw it up. No, don’t touch it. In fact, there are a couple of cars at this particular show which I always wonder, and I’m not against restomods. For a lot of guys, they love restomods. It makes an old car more modern, turnkey, getting it started every time, and so on. But for example… I’ve never understood why you would take a 63 Corvette split window and restomod it. To me, that ruins everything about the originality of that car that there’s not very many of in the first place. Why would you ruin that by turning it into a restomod? But guys do. And that’s some of those I just, honestly, I look at and I think, why? Why did you not just restore this car back to the original car it was?
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, I don’t get it.
SPEAKER 05 :
But each his own. And again, some people really love the Restomod end of things. I’m frankly not one of those guys. Some are. Some really love them. My feeling is if you want a modern hot rod, buy one. If you want a classic, buy that. A Restomod is the combination of the two, and it’s just not me. I’m just not into that. So anyways, Gary in Denver, you’re next. Go ahead.
SPEAKER 08 :
Oh, hi, John. Hey, Gary. Hey, I had a question. You went to that show. Did you see any new innovations using AI?
SPEAKER 05 :
No, not necessarily. Well, you know what? I did, actually, Gary, now that you say that. There are now – I didn’t stop and talk to the guys because I was busy in this particular moment and the booth was full of people, so I didn’t get a chance to run over and talk. But there’s actually now, on the collision sides of things, so for the collision repair world, they are now starting to roboticize what a collision repair person would actually be doing. So, in other words, spot welding, painting, priming, Things along those lines, they are now starting to use portable. They’re like four-wheel on a dolly sort of a thing. They’re starting to make robots portable, I guess is what I’m trying to say, inside of a collision center.
SPEAKER 08 :
And that’s all AI. Sounds a little similar to last week. They rolled out these AI… robot maids, I guess, that you could have in your house.
SPEAKER 05 :
Okay. Similar. Yep. These are different because they’re not necessarily a personality type robot. These are just arms and they’re certain axis of things and you can put a spray gun in one or a spot weld on one or whatever. But literally, Gary, getting to the point where, yeah, these robots will take the place of certain people in a collision center.
SPEAKER 08 :
Oh, wow. That’s cool.
SPEAKER 05 :
And part of that, for everybody listening, somebody’s saying, well, that’s really bad. It’s going to eliminate jobs. No, there’s no guys to do the work right now, so actually it’s just going to be a fill-in, Gary. It’s a stopgap because there aren’t people to do those jobs.
SPEAKER 08 :
You know, John, I was listening to an AI guru talk, and he said, AI will change jobs, but he said the people that will lose jobs Jobs to AI are people who don’t know how to use AI in the jobs that they do.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, let me give you an example. And this is one thing I was thinking about. I’m glad you brought this up because I was thinking of one thing. And again, I didn’t stop and talk because I didn’t want to be that guy. But there were several automotive, in particular, automotive marketing companies that were there at the show. And I almost wanted to stop and say, okay, tell me how AI is going to change what you guys do. Because no offense, your job, your company even, once AI gets going full bore, you will be eliminated. There will be no reason for any company, any shop to spend, you know, thousand plus dollars a month on marketing because AI is going to take over for all that, Gary. So that is an example of where it will eliminate jobs.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah. Yeah. Well, it’s what was it called? Creative destruction.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, and what will happen is some of these people that are in those roles will have to go to either a different role or maybe become the company that assists you in how you use AI to do your marketing. But they will no longer be getting the big monthly checks that they’ve been charging a lot of these companies to do their marketing because that’s changing as we speak.
SPEAKER 08 :
Yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER 05 :
The coolest part was literally sitting there, and I did stand there and watch for a few minutes, watching these robots actually fix a door panel on a car that they actually had there as a demo, and I’m just watching it with amazement like, yeah, this is the future. This is where we’re headed.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 05 :
It was amazing.
SPEAKER 10 :
The future is now.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yeah.
SPEAKER 10 :
They had four machines, and they took basically a big piece of billet, put it in one, put it in the other, put it in the four different, and by the end, it was painted and ready to go around.
SPEAKER 05 :
Yep. And you’re going to see more and more of that kind of stuff, Gary. More automation.
SPEAKER 08 :
All right, John.
SPEAKER 05 :
Great question, Gary. Appreciate that. Because, yeah, it’s going to be, for a lot of you that are listening, it’s going to be a game changer. And by the way, rightfully so. There are certain things that you cannot in the industry. We, Josh, you can’t hire enough people in some cases to do some of these things. It’ll be interesting to see as time goes by, will they get to the point where you could roboticize an oil change, for example? Right. I think eventually not going to be next year, probably not going to be the year after. But once this gets going, it’s going to get going fast. And even as you start seeing some of these robots come in and take the place of a of a collision, you know, a body man, basically, you start seeing some of that happen. Could it get to the point where and this is where it’ll be interesting because, you know, AI will have to know what shield has to come off. where is the drain plug where is the oil filter what do I need to actually make this oil change you know happen but believe me as as the machine learning comes along it gets better and better and the eyesight quote-unquote the camera systems that would be on a lot of these robots start realizing that okay, wait a minute, I’m underneath a 2024 Camry, I know it’s got this engine, I know the drain plug is here, or in some cases the drain plugs are here, and I know the oil filter is there, and oh, I know it needs this kind of oil, and by the way, I could already be pre-plumbed with the oil through the robot that I already need to flow through, and I know where the dipstick’s at to check, and by the way, you won’t have to if it’s flowing in exactly the spec way. amount of oil that that car is required to have there will be no need to even pull the dipstick so it’ll be interesting as time goes by to see how much of that sort of stuff gets adapted you know gets adopted i should say into the industry and and i guys all i can say is this it’s coming it’s not if it’s when
SPEAKER 10 :
The guy I saw who was a big AI guru, he was like, if you’re middle management, white collar, you’re gone. He’s like, the blue collar is going to take a while. We’re a long way still from really hitting the blue collar, but white collar middle management, you’re over with.
SPEAKER 05 :
Like the guy that does marketing, for example. I’d hate to say, but if you’re in that realm, you probably should be sharpening and honing your skills to do – Something else and or how can I be the guy that teaches others how to use AI in this particular end of things? Because if I become that and I shift to that, I mean, I did stop at one of the software companies that that I won’t give names out because I’m not going to promote them, but did stop at one of the more well-known companies that does software. and really asked them point blank, when is AI going to be incorporated into your software? And they’re like, well, we’re getting closer and closer on that all the time. And the reality is it ought to be there currently.
SPEAKER 10 :
Yeah, I talked to all the major point of sale ones that we deal with, and they all gave me the wrong answer. Yeah, because it should be there now. Yeah, I was not happy. I was like, you guys should be here. Right, should already be there. Why aren’t we doing this, this, and this?
SPEAKER 05 :
That’s right.
SPEAKER 10 :
They’re all, I don’t know, dragging their feet on it.
SPEAKER 05 :
Well, and I’ll come back and talk about this here in a moment because I have my own. feelings as to why some of them are dragging their feet, and I’ll explain that here in a moment. So hang tight. We’ll come back for another full hour of Drive Radio. By the way, that would be a really good extra mile topic that maybe Josh and I can do here at some point in the future. But in the meantime, hang tight, guys. We’ll be right back. Don’t forget about the extra mile. Drive Radio, the extra mile from 3 to 4 p.m. today. In the meantime, though, Hour 3 is next. We’ll be right back. Drive Radio, KLZ 560.
SPEAKER 12 :
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